Speaker 1: Hell to everybody. I hope you're having a lovely Saturday
Speaker 1: wherever you are in the world. Chuck, here with a
Speaker 1: Saturday Select selection, and I'm going to go with from
Speaker 1: November twenty nineteen, not even so long ago, as the
Speaker 1: Crow Flies. The episode is NYC Water Colon an Engineering Marvel.
Speaker 1: I love New York City. Everyone knows that I go
Speaker 1: on and on about that city on the show, and
Speaker 1: I'm constantly amazed that city runs, and that the trash
Speaker 1: gets taken away and the mail gets delivered, and that
Speaker 1: people have enough drinking water and water to bathe in
Speaker 1: and cook with. And so it's a pretty unique situation
Speaker 1: there in New York how they get their water. And
Speaker 1: here's that story. Please to enjoy. Welcome to Stuff You
Speaker 1: Should Know, a production of iHeartRadio.
Speaker 2: Hey, and welcome to the podcast. I'm Josh Clark. There's
Speaker 2: Charles so B, Chuck Bryant, there's guest producer Andrew. This
Speaker 2: is Stuff you should Know. Let's get this a.
Speaker 1: I'm excited about this one.
Speaker 2: This was your pick and I was like, what is
Speaker 2: Chuck talking about? Were you really yes? And then Chuck,
Speaker 2: I happened to stumble upon I don't know what I
Speaker 2: was looking for, but an email from somebody who sent
Speaker 2: like a Google doc or something that was a list
Speaker 2: of episodes we said we should do, and people have
Speaker 2: set those in before, but this one was kind of
Speaker 2: condensed and that was on there. So I've stumbled upon
Speaker 2: your dirty little secret.
Speaker 1: I don't think that's where I got it. Oh really,
Speaker 1: I don't think so, but maybe Okay, I just know
Speaker 1: that I am always fascinated by not only New York City,
Speaker 1: but by the fact that New York City functions with
Speaker 1: that many people and all that everything. It's just all
Speaker 1: amazing to me that that city functions with that many people,
Speaker 1: that many buildings, that like, I want to do an
Speaker 1: episode on out trash removal.
Speaker 2: Okay, I want to do one on the mail on
Speaker 2: wastewater treatment. Yeah, oh yeah, that's just New York in general.
Speaker 1: That's been long brewing.
Speaker 2: Are you okay with that?
Speaker 1: Yeah?
Speaker 2: Just I mean, we can mention New York or whatever.
Speaker 1: Big thanks to Dave Ruse though, one of our great writers.
Speaker 1: They put this together and it's really really fascinating.
Speaker 2: Dave's just an amazing human. All of our writers are amazing,
Speaker 2: for sure. Dave is great as well. He's one of
Speaker 2: a few select amazing people.
Speaker 1: Right.
Speaker 2: So the reason why New York, why anybody would ask
Speaker 2: about New York's water is because if you've ever interacted
Speaker 2: with the New Yorker, they talk about their water a lot.
Speaker 2: It's like kind of a thing in New York where
Speaker 2: they're like, our tap water is the best water in
Speaker 2: the country, and they have like a lot of stuff
Speaker 2: to back that up with, and so much so that
Speaker 2: that they say this, this water is actually the reason
Speaker 2: why our bagels and our pizza are so good.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I was. We were both just there for our
Speaker 1: final shows of the year at the Bellhouse thanks to
Speaker 1: people who came out. Yes, they were great, a lot
Speaker 1: of fun. And by the way, the guy that fell
Speaker 1: asleep on the front row on night number two, I
Speaker 1: think it was night number two. I was walking down
Speaker 1: the street and he randomly passed by driving in a
Speaker 1: car and rolled down his window and said, hey man,
Speaker 1: He said great show the other night.
Speaker 2: Right, And I was waiting for him to say, is
Speaker 2: that Freedom Rock?
Speaker 1: And I said thanks dude, I was like front row
Speaker 1: And he was so excited that I remembered that, and
Speaker 1: he said front row and he drove on before I
Speaker 1: had a chance to say you fell asleep.
Speaker 2: He's like, I feel like I was there. Maybe I
Speaker 2: felt like a dream too.
Speaker 1: I don't know, but we were just there. And there
Speaker 1: are many many restaurants in New York where there will
Speaker 1: be like a water cooler or a place where you
Speaker 1: can help yourself to your own cup of water, and
Speaker 1: it will have a big sign on it that says
Speaker 1: New York City tap water and proud all caps underlined letters.
Speaker 2: Yeah, And they mean like they're just getting water out
Speaker 2: of the tap, Whereas in other cities that's a dirty,
Speaker 2: shameful secret that people don't talk about.
Speaker 1: That's right.
Speaker 2: In New York, they proudly boast about it. And just
Speaker 2: the fact that New York or any New Yorker in
Speaker 2: the city gets water at all is pretty spectacular. It's
Speaker 2: like you said, there's a lot of people, there's a
Speaker 2: lot of buildings, and something like more than a billion
Speaker 2: gallons of water flow into New York through the taps
Speaker 2: every day.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I said day with the d yes. It is
Speaker 1: the largest water system in the United States. People from
Speaker 1: all over the world, government officials fly in and take
Speaker 1: meetings with the New York City water people just to see,
Speaker 1: like how have you done it?
Speaker 2: They're just agog, how could we do better? So that's
Speaker 2: impressive enough that a billion, more than a billion gallons
Speaker 2: of water is delivered every day to New Yorkers. Pretty great.
Speaker 2: But the idea that you can just drink it straight
Speaker 2: from the tap and it is ninety percent unfiltered, yeah,
Speaker 2: that is a truly impressive feat.
Speaker 1: Yeah. And by ninety percent unfiltered, we mean ninety percent
Speaker 1: of the water is unfiltered and ten percent is filtered.
Speaker 2: Right, And you might say, look, how can you just
Speaker 2: filter ninety percent of the water. Well, it comes from
Speaker 2: different places, that's right. So ninety percent of the water
Speaker 2: comes from two places, two watersheds that combined are called
Speaker 2: the Catskill Delaware Watershed or water system I think. And
Speaker 2: then the other one from the Crow Croton I always
Speaker 2: want to say Crow toWin. Yeah, but from the Croton Reservoir.
Speaker 2: That ten percent is actually filtered. We'll get into all
Speaker 2: of that. But ninety percent of New York's water is not.
Speaker 2: It doesn't go through a filtering process. And that makes
Speaker 2: New York one of only five major cities in the
Speaker 2: United States to get a waiver from the EPA that
Speaker 2: says your water is so deliciously pure and delightful that
Speaker 2: you don't need to filter it. Almost every other city
Speaker 2: has to have a filtering process before it gets delivered
Speaker 2: to taps.
Speaker 1: That's right. And the other four naturally Seattle, Portland, Oregon,
Speaker 1: San Francisco. The one that's a bit of a surprise
Speaker 1: is Boston, Massachusetts.
Speaker 2: What's that's how surprising it is, Chuck, Yeah, that's right.
Speaker 1: So let's talk a little bit about the history of
Speaker 1: New York and their water, because back in the day,
Speaker 1: we've always talked about how what a disgusting, disease ridden
Speaker 1: poop and horse urine ridden place New York City was.
Speaker 2: Yeah, supposedly there's a good twelve inches of horse manure
Speaker 2: on the street at all times. They before they really
Speaker 2: started cleaning their place up.
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's pretty bad.
Speaker 2: I think that was in the wind Criest Typhoid Marry episode,
Speaker 2: which is a great.
Speaker 1: One, another great New York episode. So if we're talking
Speaker 1: New Amsterdam, pre New York City, they got water where
Speaker 1: you would think from ponds and natural springs, underwater springs,
Speaker 1: and they had a forty eight acre pond it's about
Speaker 1: sixty feet deep in Tribeca. What is now Tribeca called
Speaker 1: the Collect and also the little Collect that was just
Speaker 1: south of there, And that name comes from the Dutch
Speaker 1: word caulk, which means small body of water. And the
Speaker 1: Collect was where they got their water for a long
Speaker 1: time until the city let some tanners built a tannery
Speaker 1: on the shores of the Collect, not smart New York,
Speaker 1: which ruined everything.
Speaker 2: Yeah, because it started to get polluted. They all were
Speaker 2: able to drill wells and stuff around places where people
Speaker 2: pooped and peed and then dump their poop and pee.
Speaker 2: It was a dirty, dirty place because this is pre
Speaker 2: germ theory, or at least around the time the germ
Speaker 2: theory was being developed and people didn't understand it. And
Speaker 2: I think it was our great stink episode where they
Speaker 2: traced a colera epidemic to a public well, a public
Speaker 2: water pump. John Snow, if I remember correctly did that.
Speaker 2: And this would have been around the time that New
Speaker 2: Yorkers were suffering from cholera epidemics, one of which took
Speaker 2: place in I think the eighteen thirties, eighteen thirty two.
Speaker 2: It killed thirty five hundred New Yorkers and that was
Speaker 2: a substantial amount of the population at the time, and
Speaker 2: another one hundred thousand New Yorkers had to flee just
Speaker 2: to get away from this colera epidemic, and it was
Speaker 2: because their sewage and their water was coexisting in very
Speaker 2: unhealthy ways. So New York said, maybe we should try
Speaker 2: something else. Let's look a little further outside the city
Speaker 2: where we're dumping our waists and everything. See if we
Speaker 2: can get our water from there.
Speaker 1: And they did.
Speaker 2: They built the Croton Reservoir. They damned the river, and
Speaker 2: reservoir collected and they said, now we have some beautiful
Speaker 2: pure water. We will never need to do anything again
Speaker 2: to get our water.
Speaker 1: That's right. Previous to that, though, in the eighteenth century,
Speaker 1: they had these public pumps like you were talking about
Speaker 1: on street corners, about every four blocks or so, a
Speaker 1: big wooden pump where you would get your water from
Speaker 1: underground streams and springs and stuff. But there were only
Speaker 1: a few of these that actually delivered good water. A
Speaker 1: lot of it was really brackish and gross tasting, and
Speaker 1: Americans and early European settlers obviously loved their tea, and
Speaker 1: so they marked this was almost like an early yelp
Speaker 1: or whatever. They had these pumps that actually delivered like
Speaker 1: the two or three good pumps in the city that
Speaker 1: delivered good water labeled tea water.
Speaker 2: Pumps, but like it was good enough to use for tea.
Speaker 1: Good enough to use for making good tea, okay, so
Speaker 1: they would go to these tea water pumps. You would
Speaker 1: have to buy the water. The best one was apparently
Speaker 1: at Chathaman Roosevelt. There was another and sort of what
Speaker 1: the Lower east Side is today that was a good
Speaker 1: tea water pump. And this worked out for a long
Speaker 1: time until the collect and all this stuff. It started
Speaker 1: to sort of get nasty and stinky, and so they
Speaker 1: built a canal to channel that water into the river.
Speaker 1: Like that, we got to get rid of it and
Speaker 1: drain this thing. So they build this canal forty feet wide,
Speaker 1: they channel it. Right after they finish it, this canal
Speaker 1: begins to sink, and in eighteen twenty one it got
Speaker 1: so bad. The smell was so bad that they eventually
Speaker 1: just covered up the canal. And guess what that became.
Speaker 2: I don't know, Central Park Canal Street. Oh, how about
Speaker 2: that so stupid? I wasn't even in the right part
Speaker 2: of the city.
Speaker 1: That's all right.
Speaker 2: We've even done an episode on Central Park and that
Speaker 2: wouldn't it forget it? Yes, Canal Street obviously.
Speaker 1: That's where Canal Street came from. That was literally a
Speaker 1: canal and then eventually an underground sewage system under running
Speaker 1: under Canal Street. Right, And there's another cool little tidbit
Speaker 1: if you want like your little New York history, if
Speaker 1: you like to walk around on subways and tell people
Speaker 1: about cool things. Yeah, one of the first public reservoirs
Speaker 1: in the city was dug by Aaron Burr and his
Speaker 1: Manhattan Company, and that didn't work out. They transported it
Speaker 1: through wooden logs as pipes bury beneath the city.
Speaker 2: Somebody found a piece of that wooden log. It's in
Speaker 2: one of the museums up there. Now, Oh no way, Yeah.
Speaker 1: That is very cool. But the water didn't taste great
Speaker 1: and it didn't work out for Aaron Burr, so he changed.
Speaker 1: He still kept the Manhattan Company, but he got into
Speaker 1: banking and the Manhattan Company became Chase Manhattan Bank.
Speaker 2: I saw somewhere that that was his aim all along,
Speaker 2: that the water thing was just basically a fleece to
Speaker 2: raise money to found oh really, and that that's why
Speaker 2: the water was so shoddy and the delivery was so shoddy.
Speaker 2: But what they were selling was so bad supposedly the
Speaker 2: horses wouldn't even drink.
Speaker 1: It, So it's a scam.
Speaker 2: It was basically a scam. Aaron Burr was not the
Speaker 2: greatest historical American shot Alexander Hamilton.
Speaker 1: I know that's enough right there, right.
Speaker 2: And then also scammed a bunch of people out of
Speaker 2: their water investment. That's right, because I mean, if you
Speaker 2: want to invest in a bank, you want to invest
Speaker 2: in a bank. If you want to invest in a
Speaker 2: water outfit, you want to invest in a water outfit.
Speaker 2: You want people to be above the boards with stuff
Speaker 2: like that.
Speaker 1: That's right above the dogs.
Speaker 2: That's my tirade.
Speaker 1: So you mentioned the Croton Dam and the Croton Reservoir.
Speaker 1: I want to say crow atone as well. Yeah, that
Speaker 1: became and that aqueduct became operational and things were okay,
Speaker 1: but then a tragedy struck with the Great Fire of
Speaker 1: eighteen thirty.
Speaker 2: Five, Yes, which actually I guess that the Great Fire
Speaker 2: took place right before the reservoir was opened, which is
Speaker 2: why the greats are bad. Yeah. So in eighteen thirty five,
Speaker 2: on a night in December, a warehouse caught fire and
Speaker 2: it just leveled Lower Manhattan, like just destroyed something like
Speaker 2: seventeen city blocks, fifty acres of the most densely populated
Speaker 2: part of New York at the time, and luckily only
Speaker 2: two people died. Was too many, but considering that it
Speaker 2: was seventeen city blocks that got reduced to ash, that's
Speaker 2: not bad actually, especially considering that the way that they
Speaker 2: ended up fighting this fire was by setting buildings on
Speaker 2: the perimeter on fire because they didn't have the amount
Speaker 2: of water that they needed.
Speaker 1: Yeah, the reason for that it was just sort of
Speaker 1: really bad luck. They were two smaller fires that drained
Speaker 1: our hour. Like I'm a New Yorker, listen to.
Speaker 2: Me, you're an honorary New Yorker, I would guess.
Speaker 1: It drained the cisterns, the reserve cisterns that they had,
Speaker 1: and because of those two smaller fires, they didn't have
Speaker 1: enough to fight the Great Fire. And the long and
Speaker 1: short of all this, as New York said, we got
Speaker 1: to really speed up this Croton Reservoir work.
Speaker 2: Yep, and they did. And so the Croton Reservoir was
Speaker 2: broad online in the middle of the nineteenth century, and
Speaker 2: they had a big old parade and everything, and it
Speaker 2: delivered something like ninety million gallons of delicious pure water
Speaker 2: to New York in the middle of the nineteenth century.
Speaker 2: It was a really big deal and it worked really
Speaker 2: well for a very long time. But there was also
Speaker 2: they built the murray Hill Reservoir so the Croton Reservoir
Speaker 2: would be where the water collected upstate. And then they
Speaker 2: built an aqueduct system which is still around in parts today,
Speaker 2: an elevated aqueduct to what's called the murray Hill Reservoir,
Speaker 2: which was a four acre above ground swimming pool.
Speaker 1: Basically, it's pretty cool if you look at pictures.
Speaker 2: Yeah, Yeah, it was like a real spot in the
Speaker 2: city while it was around, I think something till eighteen
Speaker 2: forty two to nineteen hu it was around, and people
Speaker 2: used to take strolls around it and make paintings of
Speaker 2: it and that kind of thing. And it is where
Speaker 2: the New York Public Library is now today, where the
Speaker 2: Ghostbusters did some of their early work. All right, right,
Speaker 2: but it worked really well for you know, the time.
Speaker 2: But then as New York grew and grew and grew,
Speaker 2: it became very painfully obvious yet again that New York
Speaker 2: had outgrown its water supply.
Speaker 1: Yeah, they needed more water. Ninety million gallons a day
Speaker 1: wasn't enough. And then what made matters worse was in
Speaker 1: eighteen ninety eight, New York City officially made it a
Speaker 1: declaration that we are now not just Lower Manhattan. Of course,
Speaker 1: they didn't call Lower Manhattan at the time, right, that
Speaker 1: was just sort of where the city ended.
Speaker 2: They called it Manahattan.
Speaker 1: Yeah, Manhattan.
Speaker 2: I saw that episode, by the way, it was one
Speaker 2: of the better ones ever, which one think of what
Speaker 2: we do in the dark. Oh, that's right, where they
Speaker 2: go to party in Manhattan Manahattan.
Speaker 1: Yea, what we do in the shadows? Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: I'm so stupid, that's all right. The Five Burrows were
Speaker 1: included in eighteen nine to eight officially, so New York
Speaker 1: and the water needed to get to the people was
Speaker 1: officially grown to more than three million people by the
Speaker 1: time the twentieth century turned.
Speaker 2: Right, which is just precious today. Three million New Yorkers,
Speaker 2: Oh my gosh, I really do. So they started to
Speaker 2: look upstate again because they had hit upon like a
Speaker 2: pretty good idea. The city is a cesspool. We need
Speaker 2: our water from outside of this cesspool. And they started
Speaker 2: looking up state. So this time they looked up to
Speaker 2: the cat Skills and they found two watersheds, which we
Speaker 2: did an episode on watersheds that I would love to forget,
Speaker 2: but it came up just now.
Speaker 1: Oh I thought it was good.
Speaker 2: No, oh man, it was horrendous, was it? Yes? I
Speaker 2: thought it was terrible and boring.
Speaker 1: January twenty seventeen.
Speaker 2: I don't remember when it came out. Like I said,
Speaker 2: I tried to forget that it ever happened.
Speaker 1: I thought it was pretty good.
Speaker 2: But anyway, So a watershed is basically a specific topographical
Speaker 2: air area where rain, snow, whatever precipitation falls down into
Speaker 2: this area and is delivered to a specific creek, river stream,
Speaker 2: something like that that eventually empties into like a lake
Speaker 2: or reservoir or something like that. So there's two watersheds,
Speaker 2: the Delaware and the Catskill Watershed that put together create
Speaker 2: something like two thousand square miles of water catching goodness,
Speaker 2: and it delivers it to a number of different reservoirs.
Speaker 2: And that is now today where New York gets like
Speaker 2: ninety percent of its water.
Speaker 1: Yeah, so you know, obviously they had to dam up
Speaker 1: rivers to create these reservoirs, and this all happened to
Speaker 1: you in the early nineteen hundreds. And then finally they
Speaker 1: were like, great, We've got all these reservoirs and the Catskills,
Speaker 1: but let me remind you, we're on the lower east
Speaker 1: side of Manhattan, surrounded by horse hearin and a lot
Speaker 1: of it and poop. We need our fresh water. How
Speaker 1: do we get it here? So in nineteen seventeen, the
Speaker 1: engineers of New York City completed the ninety two mile
Speaker 1: Catskill Aqueduct YEP, which is amazing. It's basically a big
Speaker 1: concrete tunnel that sends water ninety two miles from the
Speaker 1: Catskills down to New York. It's as wide as thirty
Speaker 1: feet in some places. It is not a tunnel the
Speaker 1: entire length, as we will see here in a minute.
Speaker 1: Not a continuous tunnel. I'm not sure what that means.
Speaker 1: What is it just like open.
Speaker 2: There's parts of it that aren't technically a tunnel in
Speaker 2: that it's a covered trench. Okay, they cut a trench
Speaker 2: and then they covered it back up, which I don't
Speaker 2: know how you do that. But it's not technically a
Speaker 2: tunnel like a circle or tube.
Speaker 1: Interesting, and here is to me one of the facts
Speaker 1: of the show. You get this water down there in
Speaker 1: the aqueduct and you get to the Hudson River, and
Speaker 1: what are you gonna do? You gotta go under it.
Speaker 2: Right to me, it'd just be like just pump it
Speaker 2: in the Hudson and hope it comes out the other side.
Speaker 2: But then I would have gotten fired immediately when night
Speaker 2: he's no engineer. No, he's a sham.
Speaker 1: He's a rapscallion. So it gets to the Hudson River
Speaker 1: and then it goes way down into the ground, about
Speaker 1: eleven hundred feet below sea level, and then climbs back
Speaker 1: up the other side. And it does all this via gravity.
Speaker 2: Yes, and they did that not just to show off,
Speaker 2: but because they decided. I read this awesome, you know
Speaker 2: how I'm always like read the contemporary articles. I read
Speaker 2: one from nineteen oh seven where they were talking about
Speaker 2: the construction of the aqueduct and they said that the
Speaker 2: reason why they were going down that far is because
Speaker 2: they wanted to hit bedrock because it would be fissure free,
Speaker 2: meaning there would be no leakage, and they could just
Speaker 2: pump the water through the hole that they bored in
Speaker 2: the bedrock. Well, they thought the bedrock was going to
Speaker 2: be about five hundred feet down, and by nineteen oh
Speaker 2: seven when they wrote the Scientific American article, they'd reached
Speaker 2: like seven hundred feet still hadn't hit it. It ended
Speaker 2: up being like eleven hundred feet below sea level where
Speaker 2: they finally hit bedrock. And that's why they had to
Speaker 2: drill so far down. And they drilled a tunnel, a
Speaker 2: vertical shaft from the from the Hudson down to that tunnel,
Speaker 2: and they built like a tube to pressurize it. So
Speaker 2: the water eleven hundred feet under the Hudson is at
Speaker 2: like fifteen tons per square foot of pressure, which also helps.
Speaker 2: But the fact that there's no pumps or anything, it's
Speaker 2: all gravity and pressure driven.
Speaker 1: Yes, And sadly though, that story has a sad ending
Speaker 1: because it took so long that their fissure free and
Speaker 1: three T shirts were all rendered useless.
Speaker 2: What No, I don't know that it's a great joke.
Speaker 2: I'm gonna go back and listen to it and I'll
Speaker 2: probably think it's hilarious, So compliments on it in advance.
Speaker 1: Oh man, that was a quality joke.
Speaker 2: Three gotcha? Okay, sure, sure, yeah, yeah, yeah, I gotcha,
Speaker 2: All right, I got you. We're all together. Now, Okay,
Speaker 2: that is a pretty good joke.
Speaker 1: Gee. Should we take a break after that? Yeah, all right,
Speaker 1: let's take a break. We'll talk a little bit more
Speaker 1: about this so called aqueduct right after this.
Speaker 3: Stuff you should know, Josh, and shuck stuff you should know.
Speaker 2: Okay, Chuck. So we've got the Catskill Aqueduct delivering water.
Speaker 2: There's another one in two called the Delaware Aqueduct. And
Speaker 2: this one actually is like a genuine tunnel.
Speaker 1: Yes, it's eighty five miles, completed in forty four. I'm
Speaker 1: not gonna make a T shirt joke about that. And
Speaker 1: it is still the longest continuous tunnel in the world
Speaker 1: at eighty five miles. And they did this all, you know,
Speaker 1: just this digging process is amazing in and of itself,
Speaker 1: digging these tunnels and these trenches with steam shovels and
Speaker 1: pouring the concrete tunnel, which I was like, how do
Speaker 1: you do that? Even, Yeah, you do the bottom half
Speaker 1: let it set, and then you do the top half
Speaker 1: and let that set. So they were like Charles Bronson
Speaker 1: in The Great Escape. They were digging tunnels.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean we're talking like dynamite and stuff like that.
Speaker 2: Like they really did it the old school way to
Speaker 2: build these aqueducts, and they're still in use today, so
Speaker 2: much so that there's three tunnels. Tunnel number one and
Speaker 2: tunnel number two have been in operation since nineteen seventeen
Speaker 2: and nineteen thirty six. They've never stopped operating. They've never
Speaker 2: been stopped up and drained and inspected in over one
Speaker 2: hundred years. For tunnel number one.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I think the current memo going around is I'm
Speaker 1: sure it's fine.
Speaker 2: Well, so they're building tunnel number three, and they decided
Speaker 2: to start building tunnel number three nineteen fifty four. They
Speaker 2: actually started in nineteen seventy. They are still not done
Speaker 2: with tunnel number three.
Speaker 1: It's amazing.
Speaker 2: Parts of it are online. And when it does fully
Speaker 2: come online, tunnel number three will have a capacity enough
Speaker 2: so that they can individually stop and drain and inspect
Speaker 2: and repair tunnel number one and then eventually tunnel number two.
Speaker 2: So the tunnel number three, Yeah, tunnel number three will
Speaker 2: save the other two. And it's good that they're doing
Speaker 2: it now. But I saw that it's going to be
Speaker 2: fully operational in twenty twenty one.
Speaker 1: They think, oh wow, so we're almost there.
Speaker 2: Almost man.
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's the New York's longest running municipal project, five
Speaker 1: billion dollar price tag so far and count I guess.
Speaker 1: And then those three tunnels or two, and however many
Speaker 1: parts of three are working deliver one point three gallons
Speaker 1: of water a day through a network of mainz and
Speaker 1: then individual pipes leading to apartments and homes and businesses
Speaker 1: and skyscrapers, and all of those pipes, if you total
Speaker 1: them up, would lay out about seven thousand miles.
Speaker 2: That's pretty impressive. I would also like to point out
Speaker 2: that I think you meant one point three billion gallons?
Speaker 2: Would I say one point three gallons? Yeah? Really, which
Speaker 2: would be hilarious that they went to all this trouble,
Speaker 2: spend all this money, and they're like, we can crank
Speaker 2: out one three gallons a day, New York. Gather around
Speaker 2: and get your water.
Speaker 1: I was still thinking about my t shirt joke.
Speaker 2: It's a good joke.
Speaker 1: And here's the kicker too. Another great fact of the show.
Speaker 1: Only five percent of all of the city's water lies
Speaker 1: on pumps to get to its final destination, which it
Speaker 1: means your tap.
Speaker 2: It's pretty awesome. Yeah, So that means that it can't
Speaker 2: break down or if something does happen. They still have
Speaker 2: things like gravity to help things along. It's great. So
Speaker 2: the reason why the EPA gave New York a waiver
Speaker 2: and said you don't have to filter the water coming
Speaker 2: from the Catskill and the Delaware watersheds is because.
Speaker 1: Because Giuliani greased the palms of the EPA.
Speaker 2: Right exactly, it started well, it started out as so pure,
Speaker 2: in pristine and just great water to begin with. But
Speaker 2: they have taken steps along the way to ensure that
Speaker 2: it stayed that way. Because one of the things that
Speaker 2: happened with the Croton Reservoir is development was allowed to
Speaker 2: grow up around it, Agriculture was allowed to pollute it.
Speaker 2: It just got it turned. And after that, the EPA,
Speaker 2: I think in the nineties the late nineties, said, yep,
Speaker 2: you guys have to are't filtering that water. It's no
Speaker 2: longer unfilterable. It's it's not drinkable as is, So they
Speaker 2: had to start filtering. It used to be one hundred
Speaker 2: percent of New York's water was unfiltered that Croton Reservoir.
Speaker 2: Now is ten percent that is filtered. But so they
Speaker 2: learned a valuable lesson from that, and now they're very
Speaker 2: proactive and keeping the Delaware and Catskill reservoir or watershed
Speaker 2: water from becoming corrupted by things like development and agriculture.
Speaker 1: Yeah, and by you know, the lesson they learned is money,
Speaker 1: because you might be thinking, like, what's the big deal,
Speaker 1: why don't they just filter all of it. It's a
Speaker 1: lot cheaper to take care of the land and make
Speaker 1: sure you never have to filter it than to install
Speaker 1: a filtering plant.
Speaker 2: Yeah, because they estimate that a filtering plant would cost
Speaker 2: something like ten billion dollars up front and then one
Speaker 2: hundred million dollars a year to operate. New York is
Speaker 2: spending something like one billion dollars every several years to
Speaker 2: protect the Delaware the Catskill water sheds. So it is
Speaker 2: an enormous investment. But also it's great because it's natural
Speaker 2: water that's unfiltered.
Speaker 1: Yeah. And you know, they do this in a number
Speaker 1: of ways, aside from buying up forty percent of the land,
Speaker 1: which was a good move and making sure nothing happens
Speaker 1: to it.
Speaker 2: Yep. So New York City owns a lot of land upstate.
Speaker 2: Oh yeah to stef Yi, Yeah, forty percent. Yeah, it's
Speaker 2: a lot of land, not forty percent of New York
Speaker 2: State but forty percent of the property around the Catskill
Speaker 2: and Delaware water sheds. They also did things like, hey,
Speaker 2: let's look at all the wastewater treatment facilities upstream, and
Speaker 2: let's invest a lot of money in upgrading those. Hey all,
Speaker 2: you people that have septic tanks that are falling apart,
Speaker 2: that matter, So we're going to reimburse you fifty two
Speaker 2: hundred homeowners. Yeah that's impressive.
Speaker 1: Yeah, install a new septic tank, and we're going to
Speaker 1: pay for it.
Speaker 2: Yep.
Speaker 1: They remove dead trees, they replace those with little sapling
Speaker 1: trees who apparently have roots that are young and can
Speaker 1: abs or a lot of harmful nutrients from that rain water.
Speaker 1: And here's another good fact of the show. Some of
Speaker 1: the water from those reservoirs or from that watershed can
Speaker 1: take up to a full year to make its way
Speaker 1: down to the tap that you're drinking out of.
Speaker 2: That's a good one. I like that one. It's almost
Speaker 2: like the how long it takes sunlight to reach us?
Speaker 1: And you were gonna say that it's the same thing.
Speaker 1: It's the same thing.
Speaker 2: They also did you talk about farmers.
Speaker 1: The only difference between those stats is you don't have
Speaker 1: to explain what a photon is you can just say water.
Speaker 2: It's a tiny packet of light. It's the carrier of
Speaker 2: electromagnetic and it's right.
Speaker 1: What did you ask right before that?
Speaker 2: Did you talk about the farmers how they train farmers
Speaker 2: upstate too? I did not, So they say, hey, you hicks,
Speaker 2: you're gonna learn these techniques, man to I'm just kidding.
Speaker 2: I love farmers. I would actually, as a matter of fact, Chuck,
Speaker 2: when I retire, I really really want like a small
Speaker 2: working farm. Oh yeah, very small, Like what do you want,
Speaker 2: like a tenth of an acre? Small?
Speaker 1: No? No, what kind of stuff do you want to farm?
Speaker 1: What do you want on it?
Speaker 2: Oh? I don't care? Yeah, oh yeah, some animals, but
Speaker 2: just you know, having pigs around, not to eat or milk,
Speaker 2: but to like basically but to like to churen up
Speaker 2: like a field so that I can plan it the
Speaker 2: next year and move the pigs to the next part
Speaker 2: of the land. That kind of stuff. For chickens to
Speaker 2: just walk around and eat their eggs and things like that.
Speaker 1: You want some chickens, some pigs, you want some probably
Speaker 1: a couple of goats. A couple of goats. You want
Speaker 1: some planting you want to farm, some plants and vegetables.
Speaker 2: Sure, yeah, but mainly just to have something to do,
Speaker 2: like with the earth. So I was one hundred million
Speaker 2: percent teasing when when I said that New York was
Speaker 2: calling the farmers hecks. New York probably did call the
Speaker 2: farmer's hicks. But I wasn't condoning that. I was just
Speaker 2: making a joke.
Speaker 1: Right, you're the guy who wants a tenth of an
Speaker 1: acre one day to do something on that. You're not sure.
Speaker 2: Those pigs are gonna be Like, this is some pretty
Speaker 2: tight quarters around here. Oh you know what else? I
Speaker 2: would do what? And I would need more of a
Speaker 2: tenth more than a tenth of an acre for this?
Speaker 2: Raise bees. That is where I will eventually raise bees.
Speaker 2: It's on Josh's farm.
Speaker 1: Well, brother, you better get some land soon because it's leaving.
Speaker 1: At a land is leaving, Yeah, I mean it's people
Speaker 1: are buying land. There's I remember my parents looking at
Speaker 1: land when I was like ten years old, and they
Speaker 1: didn't buy it.
Speaker 2: They say it's leaving, and it's.
Speaker 1: A different deal. Now. It's a lot harder to find
Speaker 1: the land that you want. You know, people bought it
Speaker 1: all up.
Speaker 2: I know you can still get it, but you got
Speaker 2: to pay through the nose for.
Speaker 1: It, yeah, or it's up to them if they want
Speaker 1: to sell it or not. You know, sure we're getting
Speaker 1: second rate, we're getting sloppy seconds.
Speaker 2: Oh god, oh man, that's gonna be one of those
Speaker 2: things that, like our younger listeners is going to be
Speaker 2: in college smoking pot in a dorm room and it'll
Speaker 2: just hit them what you just said, like fifteen years on.
Speaker 1: Oh goodness. So you mentioned the croat and watershed needs
Speaker 1: the filtering and they're trying to avoid that at all
Speaker 1: costs with the other watersheds. But the croat and water
Speaker 1: supply when they built this filtering system. It costs three
Speaker 1: point two billion dollars and it's under a golf course
Speaker 1: in New Jersey.
Speaker 2: Which is so appropriate. That's where the tainted water is
Speaker 2: under a golf course in Jersey and Bedminster perhaps sure,
Speaker 2: I don't know what that is, but it sounds right.
Speaker 1: Oh, some people will get that one.
Speaker 2: New York's like, hey, you Hicks, build a golf course
Speaker 2: over this. New York just calls everybody else Hicks. And
Speaker 2: that's right. They do.
Speaker 1: When we can fly in, do they welcome Hicks?
Speaker 2: So have we taken our second break yet.
Speaker 1: No, we probably should though. This is a good time.
Speaker 2: Okay, We're going to take another break, and we're going
Speaker 2: to come back and explain what New York does do
Speaker 2: to its water and whether or not it is a
Speaker 2: secret ingredient in bagels and pizza.
Speaker 3: Stuff. You should know, Josh and shuck stuff. You should know, all.
Speaker 2: Right, Chuck. So one thing that you're gonna want to say.
Speaker 2: If you're a New Yorker and you're boasting about your
Speaker 2: tap water, there are some things you should know. Number one,
Speaker 2: it's chlorinated. Number two, it's been run through a UV filter.
Speaker 2: Even if it hasn't been filtered, filtered, there's still things
Speaker 2: that are done to it. It's not like it's coming
Speaker 2: straight out of the cat skills into your tap.
Speaker 1: Yeah, they take it very seriously. Obviously. Here's a good
Speaker 1: stat In one year, there are more than fifteen thousand
Speaker 1: water samples taken an analy at the source. So this
Speaker 1: is upstream. They have AI, well not AI or is
Speaker 1: it AI?
Speaker 2: There's AI involved somehow? There always is.
Speaker 1: I always ask if it's AI. Want to I always
Speaker 1: ask you? Because you know, sure, I know. Thanks to
Speaker 1: the end of the World with Josh Clark.
Speaker 2: Oh thanks for the plug.
Speaker 1: Still available on iTunes, the iHeart podcast app or wherever
Speaker 1: you find your podcast.
Speaker 2: Wow, that wasn't just a plug, that was an AD.
Speaker 1: So they have these robotic buoys that monitor the Kensico Reservoir,
Speaker 1: one of the reservoirs that feeds down into New York.
Speaker 1: And these things take one point nine million measurements a
Speaker 1: year and wirelessly transmit that back to the Department of
Speaker 1: Environmental Protection in New York.
Speaker 2: Yeah, which is pretty awesome. And they had a booy before,
Speaker 2: but they had to remove it in winter because ice
Speaker 2: would mess with it, and this new one apparently is
Speaker 2: ice loving.
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah.
Speaker 2: Yeah. They also if you walk down the street, there's
Speaker 2: something like thirteen hundred, no sixty five, nine hundred and
Speaker 2: sixty five little gray boxes that if you could open
Speaker 2: up you would find a little sink and a faucet.
Speaker 2: It's adorable, maybe a little sample size of loxatain soap.
Speaker 2: And that's a water sampling station, it says nydep Department
Speaker 2: of Environmental Protection, and scientists walk up to these things,
Speaker 2: unlock them and take samples and test for all sorts
Speaker 2: of different things to make sure that the water getting
Speaker 2: to New York is good.
Speaker 1: Yeah, it says more than that. It says New York
Speaker 1: City Drinking Water Sampling Station on the front of it.
Speaker 2: Oh wow, they really they really spell it out. Yeah,
Speaker 2: I said Fisher free and O three stamped on.
Speaker 1: There, so that you know they're testing. They take thirteen
Speaker 1: hundred water samples a month. I'm not sure if you
Speaker 1: said that, but they were a from these particular stations
Speaker 1: and they do all kinds of tests. Are testing obviously
Speaker 1: for turbidity, which is cloudiness, pH chlorine, bacteria, does it
Speaker 1: stink like all kinds of tests that they're.
Speaker 2: Doing, right, And usually the New York City water is
Speaker 2: going to pass all these tests like it's there's not
Speaker 2: going to be a problem. This is just a extra
Speaker 2: little quality assurance that they're doing because by the time
Speaker 2: it reaches these testing stations, that's where it's going to
Speaker 2: the taps anyway, it's tapping into the tap water basically, right,
Speaker 2: so that ten percent of water goes through a couple
Speaker 2: extra steps that is that that the other ninety percent
Speaker 2: doesn't go through. One of the first things it does
Speaker 2: in a treatment plan is it's mixed with alum which
Speaker 2: is a component of aluminum, right, and alum attracts organic
Speaker 2: compounds and basically says, rise to the surface with me,
Speaker 2: and it creates flock, which is a white, frothy sludge,
Speaker 2: and all that is just skimmed off the top.
Speaker 1: Yeah, this sounds so gross and it is, but like
Speaker 1: in the end, you get your good water. The next
Speaker 1: thing that happens is it flows through these giant water filters.
Speaker 1: Day've put it as like these giant Brita filters. It's
Speaker 1: essentially sort of the same thing. And this is just
Speaker 1: going to further purify the water, passing through layers and
Speaker 1: layers of stuff like sand and anthracite. And then comes
Speaker 1: the ultra violet light that you referenced earlier, right.
Speaker 2: Yes, and one hundred percent of New York's water is
Speaker 2: sent through a UV filter because UV filters are really
Speaker 2: good at disrupting reproduction of bacteria, and so all water
Speaker 2: is apped. But that ninety percent of water that's not
Speaker 2: filtered that goes through a separate UV filtering plant that's
Speaker 2: built just for those, that's right, And that's where like
Speaker 2: a billion gallons of water a day are z apped
Speaker 2: with UV lights. But so all of that gets combined
Speaker 2: together eventually and comes out your tap. And New Yorkers
Speaker 2: drink it straight from the tap. Literally. It is very
Speaker 2: bizarre because I don't know if it's a placebo effect
Speaker 2: or what, but I feel like it does taste pretty
Speaker 2: good for tap water. It does, but at the same time,
Speaker 2: I typically don't drink just straight tapwater, so my frame
Speaker 2: of reference isn't necessarily right there.
Speaker 1: You want to hear something funny, Yeah, you know what
Speaker 1: my brother's favorite water is and what it's probably just
Speaker 1: a bit, but he claims it's true. What hose water?
Speaker 2: Oh, I know what he's talking about.
Speaker 1: Yeah, like when you're watering the car or watering the car.
Speaker 1: When you're washing the car, here's right, grow car when
Speaker 1: you're watering your mini, so it grows into an suv, right.
Speaker 2: So I think the reason why Scott is onto something
Speaker 2: is because when you're drinking from a hose, it's summertime
Speaker 2: and it's hot.
Speaker 1: Out, yeah, and you're probably working hard.
Speaker 2: Maybe it definitely it definitely does taste different, for sure.
Speaker 1: So when it comes to New York water, everyone says
Speaker 1: it's the best in the country. There are rankings, actually,
Speaker 1: and it is thirteen out of one hundred metro areas
Speaker 1: in the US.
Speaker 2: So it's not the best literally by definition, not the
Speaker 2: best water in the cut.
Speaker 1: You've got to move to Arlington, Texas if you want.
Speaker 1: And this this was from ten years ago, but I'm
Speaker 1: not sure what the current status is. Imagine Arlington's still
Speaker 1: up there though.
Speaker 2: Sure, but you're going to have to have a lot
Speaker 2: more reasons than that to move to Arlington, Texas. Ouch
Speaker 2: that one, I'm not taking that.
Speaker 1: What are some of the problems though with New York water.
Speaker 2: Well, there's two big problems. Turbidity, which you mentioned earlier,
Speaker 2: which is sediment suspension in the water, which gives it
Speaker 2: kind of a cloudy or darker, gritty kind of look,
Speaker 2: which is it's not just that it looks bad, its
Speaker 2: pathogens can cling to that sediment, so it's not something
Speaker 2: you want suspended. Plus it also makes it much more
Speaker 2: difficult to filter that stuff out. It's like extra work
Speaker 2: that has to be done to get rid of that sediment.
Speaker 2: And if you're not filtering your water to begin with,
Speaker 2: that's kind of a problem. And then secondly, the other
Speaker 2: one is nutrients. It's over nutrient meaning it's just packed
Speaker 2: with ribal flavor.
Speaker 1: Well, what it actually is is fertilizer runoff. You know,
Speaker 1: those farmers are doing their best, but there is fertilizer
Speaker 1: that goes downstream and runs into the watersheds, and phosphorus
Speaker 1: is one of the biggest problems because farmers do fertilize
Speaker 1: with phosphorus and if it runs off. The phosphorus alone
Speaker 1: is not great because it can cause algae blooms and
Speaker 1: stuff like that, and it can taste bad and stink.
Speaker 2: Yeah, because when the algae dies, it decays and it
Speaker 2: does not smell good.
Speaker 1: No, it does not smell good. But a bigger problem, though,
Speaker 1: is when you combine that with the chlorine. Because, like
Speaker 1: we said, New York water is chlorinated and fluoridated. We
Speaker 1: have the T shirts to prove.
Speaker 2: It, right. I don't think we said it was fluoridated,
Speaker 2: but yeah, everybody knows.
Speaker 1: Yeah it's fluoridated. And when you combine that chlorine with
Speaker 1: a phosphorus, it can create byproducts called disinfection byproducts, and
Speaker 1: that is no good at all.
Speaker 2: No, those are nasty. They're called d bps and they
Speaker 2: are basically like chemicals that are accidentally made from sanitizing water.
Speaker 2: And not just with chlorine, but chlorine chlorine. There's a
Speaker 2: bunch of different stuff that they use to disinfect water,
Speaker 2: and all of them can combine with organic compounds to
Speaker 2: create really just nasty stuff like carcinages or carcinogens. Some
Speaker 2: can produce miscarriages. It's just really really bad stuff that
Speaker 2: can be produced in the drinking water.
Speaker 1: Chloroform is one of those byproducts.
Speaker 2: Yeah, which is why New Yorkers frequently faint when they're
Speaker 2: drinking tapwater.
Speaker 1: But this all sounds super scary New York City. They are.
Speaker 1: They have I think there are eight to known contaminants,
Speaker 1: but they are still apparently well under the legal limit,
Speaker 1: depending on what you think about how the legal limits
Speaker 1: are set.
Speaker 2: Up for it, right, exactly, it's a good caveat.
Speaker 1: But New York City drinking water is thirty point nine
Speaker 1: parts per billion chloroform and the national average is eleven.
Speaker 1: So they're way higher on chloroform. But as far as
Speaker 1: all of those DBPs total, they're far below the legal
Speaker 1: limit and just a little bit above average nationally.
Speaker 2: Right, And then the total number of DBPs that they
Speaker 2: have is actually less than those in Arlington.
Speaker 1: So interesting.
Speaker 2: Chew on that Arlington.
Speaker 1: That's right, Chew on that bad pizza.
Speaker 2: Speaking of chewing, Chuck and pizza. Let's just answer this question.
Speaker 2: Is New York City's water the key ingredient to New
Speaker 2: York City bagels and pizza? H?
Speaker 1: I think, I mean, you can't definitively say, but I
Speaker 1: think it does have something to do with it. For sure.
Speaker 2: It's got to because science is involved. So here's the thing.
Speaker 2: The water from the Catskills and from the Delaware is
Speaker 2: naturally soft, meaning that it's lowing calcium and magnesium. Where
Speaker 2: do you fall on loving softer hard water? I'm a
Speaker 2: hard water guy, same here man.
Speaker 1: When I lived in Arizona, they had soft water where
Speaker 1: I lived in my sister's house that I lived in,
Speaker 1: and most of the houses had water softening or I
Speaker 1: guess hardening units or whatever in the house.
Speaker 2: Yeah, because you can't feel clean, like you never feel
Speaker 2: like you got the shampoo or the soap off. It's awful.
Speaker 2: It's just awful.
Speaker 1: Does anyone like soft water?
Speaker 2: I don't know, weirdo's probably.
Speaker 1: I mean hard water. Sorry, no, I had it all backwards.
Speaker 2: Okay, So so you like soft water.
Speaker 1: Yeah, that's why I actually, that's why I misspoke. They
Speaker 1: had water softeners in Arizona because the water was hard
Speaker 1: New York water is soft.
Speaker 2: I like soft, Okay, I like hard water typically because
Speaker 2: I feel like I'm clean afterward. But water like just
Speaker 2: the New York water is fine with me. But a
Speaker 2: softened like a chemically softened water, I can't stand.
Speaker 1: Oh really, yes, interesting.
Speaker 2: But New York's is naturally soft, so it doesn't have calcium, magnesium,
Speaker 2: or it's very low in those things comparatively, and that
Speaker 2: actually has an effect on taste, like calcium and magnesium
Speaker 2: can provide like a bitter taste to water. So there's
Speaker 2: one thing that they're saying, like, Okay, the dough isn't
Speaker 2: going to taste naturally bitter because of the calcium magnesium.
Speaker 1: That's something that is something, and it also interacts with
Speaker 1: the flour. If you're going to make a bagel or
Speaker 1: a biali or pizza crust, sure you can be or
Speaker 1: you know a lot of things when you're baking, but
Speaker 1: those are the big three. In New York. You're going
Speaker 1: to be using flour and water as your base for
Speaker 1: your dough and hard water. The minerals in those tapwater
Speaker 1: are going to fortify the gluten and they're going to
Speaker 1: make it tough and less flexible. You don't want it
Speaker 1: too soft, though, because it'll have the opposite effect. It
Speaker 1: will be gooey and you won't be able to work
Speaker 1: it as well. Right, And apparently the American Chemical Society
Speaker 1: says New York City tap water is the Goldilocks of
Speaker 1: bagel water.
Speaker 2: It is just right yep, not too hard, not too soft,
Speaker 2: just perfect for a begel and for a pizza. And
Speaker 2: that that American Chemical Society quote came from a Smithsonian
Speaker 2: article and they went on to say, probably though, it's
Speaker 2: actually the techniques that New Yorkers use to make bagels.
Speaker 2: Like they poach the bagel dough first, like they boil it.
Speaker 1: That's the only way to do a bagel. Sure it's boiled,
Speaker 1: it's not a bagel.
Speaker 2: No it's not.
Speaker 1: It's like a bake donut. It's not a donut basically.
Speaker 2: And then they also will they'll let the yeast sit
Speaker 2: for a little while to make it for mint, which
Speaker 2: creates volatile flavor compounds, so it just tastes better. They're saying,
Speaker 2: probably those are the reasons why New Yorkers make better
Speaker 2: bagels or pizza. And it's not really the water. The
Speaker 2: water just contributes a very small amount.
Speaker 1: I think it's all those things.
Speaker 2: Why not? No one can say for certain, so let's
Speaker 2: just say yes, it is exactly things. Well, if you
Speaker 2: want to know more about New York City's tap water,
Speaker 2: go on to New York City and try their tap water.
Speaker 2: And since I said that it's time for listener mail everybody.
Speaker 1: I'm gonna call this house rolling. And we talked about
Speaker 1: tepeing houses. Yep, love the podcast. Guys, just finish up
Speaker 1: trick or treating, and you were talking about rolling houses.
Speaker 1: I grew up in Franklin, Tennessee, where we used to
Speaker 1: roll houses all the time. In Franklin, Tennessee, for people
Speaker 1: don't know, is where a lot of big shot Nashville
Speaker 1: big wigs live because you can buy a huge house
Speaker 1: with lots of land. That was Chuck speaking right. Funny
Speaker 1: thing though, guys, I'm back to being Brandon. Okay, funny
Speaker 1: thing though, guys. My neighbor was Brad Paisley. There was
Speaker 1: a couple of years before his first Grammy award. And
Speaker 1: once we found this out, we knew that we had
Speaker 1: to get them. So my sister and I gathered all
Speaker 1: of our friends dressed in black and snow out to
Speaker 1: roll this country. Music Stars house. We were halfway through
Speaker 1: the job when his freaking tour bus rolled up on us.
Speaker 1: At first, we all ran away frightened, but we were
Speaker 1: pretty much caught in the act. Nowhere to go. He
Speaker 1: got off the bus and was super nice about the
Speaker 1: whole thing. Actually, he gave us a quick tour of
Speaker 1: the tour bus, chatted us up for a little while.
Speaker 1: We even cleaned up the little bit of mess we
Speaker 1: had made, and left starstruck. I highly doubt he remembers
Speaker 1: that night at all, but my friends and I will
Speaker 1: certainly never forget anyway. That's all I got. Guys, have
Speaker 1: a spooky Halloween. That is from Brandon Saunders.
Speaker 2: That is very nice. Brandon, thanks a lot for that email,
Speaker 2: and hats off to Brad Paisley for being so cool.
Speaker 1: He doesn't take his hat off, but.
Speaker 2: All right, exactly, but also how about just a hat
Speaker 2: tip then?
Speaker 1: Yeah? Or actually I was thinking Kenny Chesney because he's bald.
Speaker 2: None of those guys take their hats off, dude. So
Speaker 2: but also he hangs out with Peyton Manning, which means
Speaker 2: that he must be a good guy. Right, Oh yeah,
Speaker 2: isn't Peyton a good dude?
Speaker 1: Sure? I'm just tired of seeing him on my TV.
Speaker 2: Oh that's not gonna app anytime soon. Pretty soon you'll
Speaker 2: see them in augmented reality, and you're going to say
Speaker 2: everywhere you go, like it or not, Charles. Okay, Well,
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