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Speaker 1: Hell to everybody. I hope you're having a lovely Saturday

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Speaker 1: wherever you are in the world. Chuck, here with a

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Speaker 1: Saturday Select selection, and I'm going to go with from

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Speaker 1: November twenty nineteen, not even so long ago, as the

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Speaker 1: Crow Flies. The episode is NYC Water Colon an Engineering Marvel.

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Speaker 1: I love New York City. Everyone knows that I go

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Speaker 1: on and on about that city on the show, and

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Speaker 1: I'm constantly amazed that city runs, and that the trash

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Speaker 1: gets taken away and the mail gets delivered, and that

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Speaker 1: people have enough drinking water and water to bathe in

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Speaker 1: and cook with. And so it's a pretty unique situation

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Speaker 1: there in New York how they get their water. And

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Speaker 1: here's that story. Please to enjoy. Welcome to Stuff You

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Speaker 1: Should Know, a production of iHeartRadio.

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Speaker 2: Hey, and welcome to the podcast. I'm Josh Clark. There's

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Speaker 2: Charles so B, Chuck Bryant, there's guest producer Andrew. This

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Speaker 2: is Stuff you should Know. Let's get this a.

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Speaker 1: I'm excited about this one.

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Speaker 2: This was your pick and I was like, what is

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Speaker 2: Chuck talking about? Were you really yes? And then Chuck,

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Speaker 2: I happened to stumble upon I don't know what I

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Speaker 2: was looking for, but an email from somebody who sent

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Speaker 2: like a Google doc or something that was a list

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Speaker 2: of episodes we said we should do, and people have

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Speaker 2: set those in before, but this one was kind of

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Speaker 2: condensed and that was on there. So I've stumbled upon

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Speaker 2: your dirty little secret.

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Speaker 1: I don't think that's where I got it. Oh really,

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Speaker 1: I don't think so, but maybe Okay, I just know

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Speaker 1: that I am always fascinated by not only New York City,

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Speaker 1: but by the fact that New York City functions with

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Speaker 1: amazing to me that that city functions with that many people,

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Speaker 1: that many buildings, that like, I want to do an

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Speaker 1: episode on out trash removal.

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Speaker 2: Okay, I want to do one on the mail on

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Speaker 2: wastewater treatment. Yeah, oh yeah, that's just New York in general.

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Speaker 1: That's been long brewing.

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Speaker 2: Are you okay with that?

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Speaker 1: Yeah?

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Speaker 2: Just I mean, we can mention New York or whatever.

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Speaker 1: Big thanks to Dave Ruse though, one of our great writers.

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Speaker 1: They put this together and it's really really fascinating.

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Speaker 2: Dave's just an amazing human. All of our writers are amazing,

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Speaker 2: for sure. Dave is great as well. He's one of

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Speaker 2: a few select amazing people.

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Speaker 1: Right.

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Speaker 2: So the reason why New York, why anybody would ask

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Speaker 2: with the New Yorker, they talk about their water a lot.

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Speaker 2: It's like kind of a thing in New York where

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Speaker 2: they're like, our tap water is the best water in

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Speaker 2: that they say this, this water is actually the reason

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Speaker 2: why our bagels and our pizza are so good.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I was. We were both just there for our

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Speaker 1: final shows of the year at the Bellhouse thanks to

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Speaker 1: people who came out. Yes, they were great, a lot

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Speaker 1: of fun. And by the way, the guy that fell

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Speaker 1: He said great show the other night.

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Speaker 2: Right, And I was waiting for him to say, is

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Speaker 2: that Freedom Rock?

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Speaker 1: And I said thanks dude, I was like front row

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Speaker 1: And he was so excited that I remembered that, and

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Speaker 2: felt like a dream too.

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Speaker 1: I don't know, but we were just there. And there

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Speaker 1: are many many restaurants in New York where there will

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Speaker 2: Yeah, And they mean like they're just getting water out

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Speaker 2: In New York, they proudly boast about it. And just

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I said day with the d yes. It is

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Speaker 1: the largest water system in the United States. People from

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Speaker 2: But the idea that you can just drink it straight

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Speaker 2: That ten percent is actually filtered. We'll get into all

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Speaker 2: of that. But ninety percent of New York's water is not.

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Speaker 2: It doesn't go through a filtering process. And that makes

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Speaker 2: says your water is so deliciously pure and delightful that

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Speaker 2: you don't need to filter it. Almost every other city

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Speaker 1: That's right. And the other four naturally Seattle, Portland, Oregon,

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Speaker 1: So let's talk a little bit about the history of

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Speaker 2: Yeah, supposedly there's a good twelve inches of horse manure

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Speaker 1: One, another great New York episode. So if we're talking

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Speaker 2: Yeah, because it started to get polluted. They all were

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Speaker 2: It was a dirty, dirty place because this is pre

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Speaker 2: It killed thirty five hundred New Yorkers and that was

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Speaker 2: to get away from this colera epidemic, and it was

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Speaker 2: because their sewage and their water was coexisting in very

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Speaker 2: something else. Let's look a little further outside the city

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Speaker 1: And they did.

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Speaker 2: They built the Croton Reservoir. They damned the river, and

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Speaker 2: reservoir collected and they said, now we have some beautiful

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Speaker 1: That's right. Previous to that, though, in the eighteenth century,

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Speaker 2: I don't know, Central Park Canal Street. Oh, how about

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Speaker 2: that so stupid? I wasn't even in the right part

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Speaker 1: That's all right.

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Speaker 2: We've even done an episode on Central Park and that

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Speaker 2: wouldn't it forget it? Yes, Canal Street obviously.

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Speaker 1: That's where Canal Street came from. That was literally a

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Speaker 1: under Canal Street. Right, And there's another cool little tidbit

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Speaker 1: if you want like your little New York history, if

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Speaker 1: you like to walk around on subways and tell people

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Speaker 1: about cool things. Yeah, one of the first public reservoirs

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Speaker 1: in the city was dug by Aaron Burr and his

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Speaker 1: Manhattan Company, and that didn't work out. They transported it

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Speaker 2: Somebody found a piece of that wooden log. It's in

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Speaker 2: one of the museums up there. Now, Oh no way, Yeah.

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Speaker 1: That is very cool. But the water didn't taste great

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Speaker 1: and it didn't work out for Aaron Burr, so he changed.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, they needed more water. Ninety million gallons a day

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Speaker 2: They called it Manahattan.

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Speaker 1: Yea, what we do in the shadows? Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah,

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Speaker 1: I'm so stupid, that's all right. The Five Burrows were

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Speaker 2: Right, which is just precious today. Three million New Yorkers,

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Speaker 2: Oh my gosh, I really do. So they started to

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Speaker 1: Oh I thought it was good.

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Speaker 2: No, oh man, it was horrendous, was it? Yes? I

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Speaker 1: January twenty seventeen.

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Speaker 2: I don't remember when it came out. Like I said,

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Speaker 2: But anyway, So a watershed is basically a specific topographical

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Speaker 2: And that is now today where New York gets like

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Speaker 1: Yeah, so you know, obviously they had to dam up

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Speaker 1: Catskill Aqueduct YEP, which is amazing. It's basically a big

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Speaker 1: Not a continuous tunnel. I'm not sure what that means.

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Speaker 2: There's parts of it that aren't technically a tunnel in

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Speaker 1: Interesting, and here is to me one of the facts

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Speaker 1: what are you gonna do? You gotta go under it.

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Speaker 2: Right to me, it'd just be like just pump it

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Speaker 2: But then I would have gotten fired immediately when night

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Speaker 2: he's no engineer. No, he's a sham.

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Speaker 1: He's a rapscallion. So it gets to the Hudson River

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Speaker 2: Yes, and they did that not just to show off,

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Speaker 2: But the fact that there's no pumps or anything, it's

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Speaker 1: Yes, And sadly though, that story has a sad ending

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Speaker 1: because it took so long that their fissure free and

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Speaker 2: What No, I don't know that it's a great joke.

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Speaker 2: I'm gonna go back and listen to it and I'll

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Speaker 1: Oh man, that was a quality joke.

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Speaker 2: Three gotcha? Okay, sure, sure, yeah, yeah, yeah, I gotcha,

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Speaker 1: Gee. Should we take a break after that? Yeah, all right,

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Speaker 3: Stuff you should know, Josh, and shuck stuff you should know.

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Speaker 2: Okay, Chuck. So we've got the Catskill Aqueduct delivering water.

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Speaker 2: There's another one in two called the Delaware Aqueduct. And

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Speaker 1: Yes, it's eighty five miles, completed in forty four. I'm

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean we're talking like dynamite and stuff like that.

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Speaker 2: Like they really did it the old school way to

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Speaker 2: much so that there's three tunnels. Tunnel number one and

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Speaker 2: tunnel number two have been in operation since nineteen seventeen

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I think the current memo going around is I'm

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Speaker 2: Well, so they're building tunnel number three, and they decided

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Speaker 1: It's amazing.

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Speaker 2: Parts of it are online. And when it does fully

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Speaker 2: save the other two. And it's good that they're doing

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00:23:44,280 --> 00:23:46,000
Speaker 2: it now. But I saw that it's going to be

440
00:23:46,119 --> 00:23:48,840
Speaker 2: fully operational in twenty twenty one.

441
00:23:48,960 --> 00:23:51,000
Speaker 1: They think, oh wow, so we're almost there.

442
00:23:51,480 --> 00:23:52,240
Speaker 2: Almost man.

443
00:23:52,520 --> 00:23:57,320
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's the New York's longest running municipal project, five

444
00:23:57,359 --> 00:24:00,600
Speaker 1: billion dollar price tag so far and count I guess.

445
00:24:01,200 --> 00:24:04,159
Speaker 1: And then those three tunnels or two, and however many

446
00:24:04,640 --> 00:24:09,720
Speaker 1: parts of three are working deliver one point three gallons

447
00:24:09,760 --> 00:24:14,800
Speaker 1: of water a day through a network of mainz and

448
00:24:15,200 --> 00:24:21,360
Speaker 1: then individual pipes leading to apartments and homes and businesses

449
00:24:22,080 --> 00:24:25,200
Speaker 1: and skyscrapers, and all of those pipes, if you total

450
00:24:25,240 --> 00:24:29,119
Speaker 1: them up, would lay out about seven thousand miles.

451
00:24:29,480 --> 00:24:32,080
Speaker 2: That's pretty impressive. I would also like to point out

452
00:24:32,160 --> 00:24:34,600
Speaker 2: that I think you meant one point three billion gallons?

453
00:24:34,640 --> 00:24:39,120
Speaker 2: Would I say one point three gallons? Yeah? Really, which

454
00:24:39,160 --> 00:24:41,600
Speaker 2: would be hilarious that they went to all this trouble,

455
00:24:41,880 --> 00:24:44,680
Speaker 2: spend all this money, and they're like, we can crank

456
00:24:44,720 --> 00:24:48,720
Speaker 2: out one three gallons a day, New York. Gather around

457
00:24:48,720 --> 00:24:49,520
Speaker 2: and get your water.

458
00:24:50,040 --> 00:24:52,080
Speaker 1: I was still thinking about my t shirt joke.

459
00:24:53,520 --> 00:24:54,240
Speaker 2: It's a good joke.

460
00:24:54,800 --> 00:24:57,240
Speaker 1: And here's the kicker too. Another great fact of the show.

461
00:24:57,280 --> 00:25:00,240
Speaker 1: Only five percent of all of the city's water lies

462
00:25:00,320 --> 00:25:04,359
Speaker 1: on pumps to get to its final destination, which it

463
00:25:04,400 --> 00:25:05,160
Speaker 1: means your tap.

464
00:25:05,560 --> 00:25:08,080
Speaker 2: It's pretty awesome. Yeah, So that means that it can't

465
00:25:08,160 --> 00:25:11,080
Speaker 2: break down or if something does happen. They still have

466
00:25:11,240 --> 00:25:14,520
Speaker 2: things like gravity to help things along. It's great. So

467
00:25:15,440 --> 00:25:20,359
Speaker 2: the reason why the EPA gave New York a waiver

468
00:25:20,760 --> 00:25:23,280
Speaker 2: and said you don't have to filter the water coming

469
00:25:23,320 --> 00:25:27,560
Speaker 2: from the Catskill and the Delaware watersheds is because.

470
00:25:27,160 --> 00:25:30,399
Speaker 1: Because Giuliani greased the palms of the EPA.

471
00:25:30,359 --> 00:25:34,359
Speaker 2: Right exactly, it started well, it started out as so pure,

472
00:25:34,400 --> 00:25:38,960
Speaker 2: in pristine and just great water to begin with. But

473
00:25:39,040 --> 00:25:41,639
Speaker 2: they have taken steps along the way to ensure that

474
00:25:41,720 --> 00:25:44,040
Speaker 2: it stayed that way. Because one of the things that

475
00:25:44,119 --> 00:25:48,080
Speaker 2: happened with the Croton Reservoir is development was allowed to

476
00:25:48,080 --> 00:25:52,280
Speaker 2: grow up around it, Agriculture was allowed to pollute it.

477
00:25:52,280 --> 00:25:55,719
Speaker 2: It just got it turned. And after that, the EPA,

478
00:25:55,760 --> 00:25:58,200
Speaker 2: I think in the nineties the late nineties, said, yep,

479
00:25:59,240 --> 00:26:01,439
Speaker 2: you guys have to are't filtering that water. It's no

480
00:26:01,480 --> 00:26:06,400
Speaker 2: longer unfilterable. It's it's not drinkable as is, So they

481
00:26:06,440 --> 00:26:08,560
Speaker 2: had to start filtering. It used to be one hundred

482
00:26:08,560 --> 00:26:12,919
Speaker 2: percent of New York's water was unfiltered that Croton Reservoir.

483
00:26:13,080 --> 00:26:16,720
Speaker 2: Now is ten percent that is filtered. But so they

484
00:26:17,000 --> 00:26:19,600
Speaker 2: learned a valuable lesson from that, and now they're very

485
00:26:19,640 --> 00:26:25,520
Speaker 2: proactive and keeping the Delaware and Catskill reservoir or watershed

486
00:26:25,560 --> 00:26:30,960
Speaker 2: water from becoming corrupted by things like development and agriculture.

487
00:26:31,359 --> 00:26:34,119
Speaker 1: Yeah, and by you know, the lesson they learned is money,

488
00:26:34,119 --> 00:26:36,240
Speaker 1: because you might be thinking, like, what's the big deal,

489
00:26:36,240 --> 00:26:38,399
Speaker 1: why don't they just filter all of it. It's a

490
00:26:38,400 --> 00:26:40,479
Speaker 1: lot cheaper to take care of the land and make

491
00:26:40,520 --> 00:26:43,360
Speaker 1: sure you never have to filter it than to install

492
00:26:43,400 --> 00:26:44,280
Speaker 1: a filtering plant.

493
00:26:44,840 --> 00:26:47,560
Speaker 2: Yeah, because they estimate that a filtering plant would cost

494
00:26:47,600 --> 00:26:50,159
Speaker 2: something like ten billion dollars up front and then one

495
00:26:50,240 --> 00:26:53,320
Speaker 2: hundred million dollars a year to operate. New York is

496
00:26:53,480 --> 00:26:57,240
Speaker 2: spending something like one billion dollars every several years to

497
00:26:57,320 --> 00:27:01,720
Speaker 2: protect the Delaware the Catskill water sheds. So it is

498
00:27:01,760 --> 00:27:04,919
Speaker 2: an enormous investment. But also it's great because it's natural

499
00:27:04,960 --> 00:27:06,119
Speaker 2: water that's unfiltered.

500
00:27:06,720 --> 00:27:08,399
Speaker 1: Yeah. And you know, they do this in a number

501
00:27:08,400 --> 00:27:12,080
Speaker 1: of ways, aside from buying up forty percent of the land,

502
00:27:12,160 --> 00:27:14,760
Speaker 1: which was a good move and making sure nothing happens

503
00:27:14,800 --> 00:27:15,040
Speaker 1: to it.

504
00:27:15,480 --> 00:27:18,880
Speaker 2: Yep. So New York City owns a lot of land upstate.

505
00:27:19,040 --> 00:27:22,920
Speaker 2: Oh yeah to stef Yi, Yeah, forty percent. Yeah, it's

506
00:27:22,920 --> 00:27:26,119
Speaker 2: a lot of land, not forty percent of New York

507
00:27:26,160 --> 00:27:28,600
Speaker 2: State but forty percent of the property around the Catskill

508
00:27:28,680 --> 00:27:32,280
Speaker 2: and Delaware water sheds. They also did things like, hey,

509
00:27:32,359 --> 00:27:35,879
Speaker 2: let's look at all the wastewater treatment facilities upstream, and

510
00:27:35,960 --> 00:27:39,440
Speaker 2: let's invest a lot of money in upgrading those. Hey all,

511
00:27:39,480 --> 00:27:42,200
Speaker 2: you people that have septic tanks that are falling apart,

512
00:27:42,720 --> 00:27:45,880
Speaker 2: that matter, So we're going to reimburse you fifty two

513
00:27:45,960 --> 00:27:48,200
Speaker 2: hundred homeowners. Yeah that's impressive.

514
00:27:48,359 --> 00:27:50,159
Speaker 1: Yeah, install a new septic tank, and we're going to

515
00:27:50,240 --> 00:27:50,560
Speaker 1: pay for it.

516
00:27:50,960 --> 00:27:51,160
Speaker 2: Yep.

517
00:27:51,800 --> 00:27:55,920
Speaker 1: They remove dead trees, they replace those with little sapling

518
00:27:55,960 --> 00:27:59,640
Speaker 1: trees who apparently have roots that are young and can

519
00:27:59,680 --> 00:28:02,480
Speaker 1: abs or a lot of harmful nutrients from that rain water.

520
00:28:03,680 --> 00:28:06,600
Speaker 1: And here's another good fact of the show. Some of

521
00:28:06,640 --> 00:28:10,480
Speaker 1: the water from those reservoirs or from that watershed can

522
00:28:10,560 --> 00:28:13,040
Speaker 1: take up to a full year to make its way

523
00:28:13,080 --> 00:28:14,879
Speaker 1: down to the tap that you're drinking out of.

524
00:28:15,119 --> 00:28:16,959
Speaker 2: That's a good one. I like that one. It's almost

525
00:28:17,000 --> 00:28:19,040
Speaker 2: like the how long it takes sunlight to reach us?

526
00:28:19,080 --> 00:28:21,320
Speaker 1: And you were gonna say that it's the same thing.

527
00:28:21,400 --> 00:28:22,040
Speaker 1: It's the same thing.

528
00:28:22,720 --> 00:28:25,280
Speaker 2: They also did you talk about farmers.

529
00:28:25,800 --> 00:28:27,480
Speaker 1: The only difference between those stats is you don't have

530
00:28:27,520 --> 00:28:30,400
Speaker 1: to explain what a photon is you can just say water.

531
00:28:30,800 --> 00:28:34,159
Speaker 2: It's a tiny packet of light. It's the carrier of

532
00:28:34,200 --> 00:28:35,680
Speaker 2: electromagnetic and it's right.

533
00:28:36,280 --> 00:28:37,439
Speaker 1: What did you ask right before that?

534
00:28:37,480 --> 00:28:39,680
Speaker 2: Did you talk about the farmers how they train farmers

535
00:28:40,000 --> 00:28:43,840
Speaker 2: upstate too? I did not, So they say, hey, you hicks,

536
00:28:44,320 --> 00:28:47,680
Speaker 2: you're gonna learn these techniques, man to I'm just kidding.

537
00:28:47,720 --> 00:28:50,040
Speaker 2: I love farmers. I would actually, as a matter of fact, Chuck,

538
00:28:50,240 --> 00:28:55,520
Speaker 2: when I retire, I really really want like a small

539
00:28:56,000 --> 00:28:59,120
Speaker 2: working farm. Oh yeah, very small, Like what do you want,

540
00:28:59,400 --> 00:29:00,880
Speaker 2: like a tenth of an acre? Small?

541
00:29:01,240 --> 00:29:02,840
Speaker 1: No? No, what kind of stuff do you want to farm?

542
00:29:02,880 --> 00:29:03,560
Speaker 1: What do you want on it?

543
00:29:04,280 --> 00:29:07,440
Speaker 2: Oh? I don't care? Yeah, oh yeah, some animals, but

544
00:29:07,840 --> 00:29:11,760
Speaker 2: just you know, having pigs around, not to eat or milk,

545
00:29:12,200 --> 00:29:19,000
Speaker 2: but to like basically but to like to churen up

546
00:29:19,080 --> 00:29:22,160
Speaker 2: like a field so that I can plan it the

547
00:29:22,200 --> 00:29:24,000
Speaker 2: next year and move the pigs to the next part

548
00:29:24,080 --> 00:29:26,479
Speaker 2: of the land. That kind of stuff. For chickens to

549
00:29:26,520 --> 00:29:28,479
Speaker 2: just walk around and eat their eggs and things like that.

550
00:29:28,840 --> 00:29:31,360
Speaker 1: You want some chickens, some pigs, you want some probably

551
00:29:31,400 --> 00:29:33,120
Speaker 1: a couple of goats. A couple of goats. You want

552
00:29:33,160 --> 00:29:36,600
Speaker 1: some planting you want to farm, some plants and vegetables.

553
00:29:36,320 --> 00:29:38,840
Speaker 2: Sure, yeah, but mainly just to have something to do,

554
00:29:39,040 --> 00:29:42,600
Speaker 2: like with the earth. So I was one hundred million

555
00:29:42,680 --> 00:29:45,760
Speaker 2: percent teasing when when I said that New York was

556
00:29:45,760 --> 00:29:48,280
Speaker 2: calling the farmers hecks. New York probably did call the

557
00:29:48,320 --> 00:29:51,320
Speaker 2: farmer's hicks. But I wasn't condoning that. I was just

558
00:29:51,320 --> 00:29:52,000
Speaker 2: making a joke.

559
00:29:52,280 --> 00:29:53,840
Speaker 1: Right, you're the guy who wants a tenth of an

560
00:29:53,840 --> 00:29:56,200
Speaker 1: acre one day to do something on that. You're not sure.

561
00:29:56,280 --> 00:29:58,320
Speaker 2: Those pigs are gonna be Like, this is some pretty

562
00:29:58,360 --> 00:30:00,760
Speaker 2: tight quarters around here. Oh you know what else? I

563
00:30:00,760 --> 00:30:02,280
Speaker 2: would do what? And I would need more of a

564
00:30:02,360 --> 00:30:03,960
Speaker 2: tenth more than a tenth of an acre for this?

565
00:30:04,240 --> 00:30:07,120
Speaker 2: Raise bees. That is where I will eventually raise bees.

566
00:30:07,400 --> 00:30:08,560
Speaker 2: It's on Josh's farm.

567
00:30:08,720 --> 00:30:13,440
Speaker 1: Well, brother, you better get some land soon because it's leaving.

568
00:30:14,360 --> 00:30:17,800
Speaker 1: At a land is leaving, Yeah, I mean it's people

569
00:30:17,800 --> 00:30:21,200
Speaker 1: are buying land. There's I remember my parents looking at

570
00:30:21,240 --> 00:30:23,520
Speaker 1: land when I was like ten years old, and they

571
00:30:23,520 --> 00:30:24,200
Speaker 1: didn't buy it.

572
00:30:25,000 --> 00:30:26,840
Speaker 2: They say it's leaving, and it's.

573
00:30:26,640 --> 00:30:28,360
Speaker 1: A different deal. Now. It's a lot harder to find

574
00:30:28,400 --> 00:30:31,480
Speaker 1: the land that you want. You know, people bought it

575
00:30:31,520 --> 00:30:31,960
Speaker 1: all up.

576
00:30:32,800 --> 00:30:34,640
Speaker 2: I know you can still get it, but you got

577
00:30:34,680 --> 00:30:35,760
Speaker 2: to pay through the nose for.

578
00:30:35,680 --> 00:30:37,400
Speaker 1: It, yeah, or it's up to them if they want

579
00:30:37,400 --> 00:30:39,440
Speaker 1: to sell it or not. You know, sure we're getting

580
00:30:39,480 --> 00:30:41,200
Speaker 1: second rate, we're getting sloppy seconds.

581
00:30:42,080 --> 00:30:45,920
Speaker 2: Oh god, oh man, that's gonna be one of those

582
00:30:45,960 --> 00:30:48,320
Speaker 2: things that, like our younger listeners is going to be

583
00:30:48,320 --> 00:30:50,440
Speaker 2: in college smoking pot in a dorm room and it'll

584
00:30:50,440 --> 00:30:52,880
Speaker 2: just hit them what you just said, like fifteen years on.

585
00:30:53,600 --> 00:30:58,800
Speaker 1: Oh goodness. So you mentioned the croat and watershed needs

586
00:30:58,840 --> 00:31:03,000
Speaker 1: the filtering and they're trying to avoid that at all

587
00:31:03,040 --> 00:31:07,320
Speaker 1: costs with the other watersheds. But the croat and water

588
00:31:07,360 --> 00:31:10,840
Speaker 1: supply when they built this filtering system. It costs three

589
00:31:10,840 --> 00:31:12,960
Speaker 1: point two billion dollars and it's under a golf course

590
00:31:12,960 --> 00:31:14,000
Speaker 1: in New Jersey.

591
00:31:14,240 --> 00:31:17,440
Speaker 2: Which is so appropriate. That's where the tainted water is

592
00:31:18,160 --> 00:31:22,040
Speaker 2: under a golf course in Jersey and Bedminster perhaps sure,

593
00:31:22,160 --> 00:31:24,000
Speaker 2: I don't know what that is, but it sounds right.

594
00:31:24,480 --> 00:31:25,720
Speaker 1: Oh, some people will get that one.

595
00:31:27,920 --> 00:31:30,160
Speaker 2: New York's like, hey, you Hicks, build a golf course

596
00:31:30,200 --> 00:31:34,040
Speaker 2: over this. New York just calls everybody else Hicks. And

597
00:31:34,120 --> 00:31:35,000
Speaker 2: that's right. They do.

598
00:31:35,120 --> 00:31:37,240
Speaker 1: When we can fly in, do they welcome Hicks?

599
00:31:39,120 --> 00:31:42,600
Speaker 2: So have we taken our second break yet.

600
00:31:42,440 --> 00:31:44,040
Speaker 1: No, we probably should though. This is a good time.

601
00:31:44,280 --> 00:31:45,960
Speaker 2: Okay, We're going to take another break, and we're going

602
00:31:46,040 --> 00:31:48,320
Speaker 2: to come back and explain what New York does do

603
00:31:48,480 --> 00:31:50,720
Speaker 2: to its water and whether or not it is a

604
00:31:50,840 --> 00:32:20,320
Speaker 2: secret ingredient in bagels and pizza.

605
00:32:11,640 --> 00:32:32,160
Speaker 3: Stuff. You should know, Josh and shuck stuff. You should know, all.

606
00:32:32,200 --> 00:32:35,120
Speaker 2: Right, Chuck. So one thing that you're gonna want to say.

607
00:32:35,200 --> 00:32:36,959
Speaker 2: If you're a New Yorker and you're boasting about your

608
00:32:36,960 --> 00:32:39,560
Speaker 2: tap water, there are some things you should know. Number one,

609
00:32:39,560 --> 00:32:43,040
Speaker 2: it's chlorinated. Number two, it's been run through a UV filter.

610
00:32:43,520 --> 00:32:46,720
Speaker 2: Even if it hasn't been filtered, filtered, there's still things

611
00:32:46,720 --> 00:32:48,480
Speaker 2: that are done to it. It's not like it's coming

612
00:32:48,840 --> 00:32:50,840
Speaker 2: straight out of the cat skills into your tap.

613
00:32:51,360 --> 00:32:54,320
Speaker 1: Yeah, they take it very seriously. Obviously. Here's a good

614
00:32:54,360 --> 00:32:57,480
Speaker 1: stat In one year, there are more than fifteen thousand

615
00:32:57,560 --> 00:33:01,880
Speaker 1: water samples taken an analy at the source. So this

616
00:33:01,960 --> 00:33:07,840
Speaker 1: is upstream. They have AI, well not AI or is

617
00:33:07,840 --> 00:33:08,280
Speaker 1: it AI?

618
00:33:08,840 --> 00:33:11,040
Speaker 2: There's AI involved somehow? There always is.

619
00:33:11,160 --> 00:33:13,320
Speaker 1: I always ask if it's AI. Want to I always

620
00:33:13,320 --> 00:33:15,920
Speaker 1: ask you? Because you know, sure, I know. Thanks to

621
00:33:16,160 --> 00:33:17,520
Speaker 1: the end of the World with Josh Clark.

622
00:33:17,880 --> 00:33:19,400
Speaker 2: Oh thanks for the plug.

623
00:33:19,320 --> 00:33:23,720
Speaker 1: Still available on iTunes, the iHeart podcast app or wherever

624
00:33:23,720 --> 00:33:24,680
Speaker 1: you find your podcast.

625
00:33:25,080 --> 00:33:27,640
Speaker 2: Wow, that wasn't just a plug, that was an AD.

626
00:33:28,400 --> 00:33:32,600
Speaker 1: So they have these robotic buoys that monitor the Kensico Reservoir,

627
00:33:33,360 --> 00:33:35,440
Speaker 1: one of the reservoirs that feeds down into New York.

628
00:33:36,040 --> 00:33:40,640
Speaker 1: And these things take one point nine million measurements a

629
00:33:40,760 --> 00:33:46,440
Speaker 1: year and wirelessly transmit that back to the Department of

630
00:33:46,560 --> 00:33:48,440
Speaker 1: Environmental Protection in New York.

631
00:33:48,880 --> 00:33:51,760
Speaker 2: Yeah, which is pretty awesome. And they had a booy before,

632
00:33:51,840 --> 00:33:54,120
Speaker 2: but they had to remove it in winter because ice

633
00:33:54,120 --> 00:33:57,440
Speaker 2: would mess with it, and this new one apparently is

634
00:33:57,960 --> 00:33:59,400
Speaker 2: ice loving.

635
00:33:59,800 --> 00:34:00,240
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah.

636
00:34:00,800 --> 00:34:04,640
Speaker 2: Yeah. They also if you walk down the street, there's

637
00:34:04,680 --> 00:34:10,040
Speaker 2: something like thirteen hundred, no sixty five, nine hundred and

638
00:34:10,080 --> 00:34:13,560
Speaker 2: sixty five little gray boxes that if you could open

639
00:34:13,640 --> 00:34:16,400
Speaker 2: up you would find a little sink and a faucet.

640
00:34:16,480 --> 00:34:21,240
Speaker 2: It's adorable, maybe a little sample size of loxatain soap.

641
00:34:22,040 --> 00:34:27,040
Speaker 2: And that's a water sampling station, it says nydep Department

642
00:34:27,040 --> 00:34:30,560
Speaker 2: of Environmental Protection, and scientists walk up to these things,

643
00:34:30,640 --> 00:34:33,480
Speaker 2: unlock them and take samples and test for all sorts

644
00:34:33,480 --> 00:34:37,120
Speaker 2: of different things to make sure that the water getting

645
00:34:37,160 --> 00:34:39,120
Speaker 2: to New York is good.

646
00:34:39,400 --> 00:34:41,919
Speaker 1: Yeah, it says more than that. It says New York

647
00:34:42,160 --> 00:34:44,640
Speaker 1: City Drinking Water Sampling Station on the front of it.

648
00:34:45,080 --> 00:34:47,560
Speaker 2: Oh wow, they really they really spell it out. Yeah,

649
00:34:47,560 --> 00:34:51,160
Speaker 2: I said Fisher free and O three stamped on.

650
00:34:51,280 --> 00:34:56,160
Speaker 1: There, so that you know they're testing. They take thirteen

651
00:34:56,239 --> 00:34:58,440
Speaker 1: hundred water samples a month. I'm not sure if you

652
00:34:58,480 --> 00:35:01,400
Speaker 1: said that, but they were a from these particular stations

653
00:35:01,760 --> 00:35:03,880
Speaker 1: and they do all kinds of tests. Are testing obviously

654
00:35:03,920 --> 00:35:10,560
Speaker 1: for turbidity, which is cloudiness, pH chlorine, bacteria, does it

655
00:35:10,680 --> 00:35:12,720
Speaker 1: stink like all kinds of tests that they're.

656
00:35:12,560 --> 00:35:16,880
Speaker 2: Doing, right, And usually the New York City water is

657
00:35:16,920 --> 00:35:19,200
Speaker 2: going to pass all these tests like it's there's not

658
00:35:19,239 --> 00:35:21,520
Speaker 2: going to be a problem. This is just a extra

659
00:35:21,600 --> 00:35:24,160
Speaker 2: little quality assurance that they're doing because by the time

660
00:35:24,200 --> 00:35:27,120
Speaker 2: it reaches these testing stations, that's where it's going to

661
00:35:27,160 --> 00:35:30,239
Speaker 2: the taps anyway, it's tapping into the tap water basically, right,

662
00:35:30,960 --> 00:35:35,360
Speaker 2: so that ten percent of water goes through a couple

663
00:35:35,440 --> 00:35:39,920
Speaker 2: extra steps that is that that the other ninety percent

664
00:35:39,960 --> 00:35:42,000
Speaker 2: doesn't go through. One of the first things it does

665
00:35:42,040 --> 00:35:45,160
Speaker 2: in a treatment plan is it's mixed with alum which

666
00:35:45,200 --> 00:35:50,400
Speaker 2: is a component of aluminum, right, and alum attracts organic

667
00:35:50,480 --> 00:35:53,560
Speaker 2: compounds and basically says, rise to the surface with me,

668
00:35:53,640 --> 00:35:57,040
Speaker 2: and it creates flock, which is a white, frothy sludge,

669
00:35:57,120 --> 00:35:59,040
Speaker 2: and all that is just skimmed off the top.

670
00:36:00,400 --> 00:36:03,680
Speaker 1: Yeah, this sounds so gross and it is, but like

671
00:36:03,880 --> 00:36:06,120
Speaker 1: in the end, you get your good water. The next

672
00:36:06,160 --> 00:36:09,880
Speaker 1: thing that happens is it flows through these giant water filters.

673
00:36:11,160 --> 00:36:13,720
Speaker 1: Day've put it as like these giant Brita filters. It's

674
00:36:14,239 --> 00:36:17,080
Speaker 1: essentially sort of the same thing. And this is just

675
00:36:17,120 --> 00:36:20,480
Speaker 1: going to further purify the water, passing through layers and

676
00:36:20,600 --> 00:36:25,480
Speaker 1: layers of stuff like sand and anthracite. And then comes

677
00:36:25,520 --> 00:36:28,080
Speaker 1: the ultra violet light that you referenced earlier, right.

678
00:36:28,360 --> 00:36:31,080
Speaker 2: Yes, and one hundred percent of New York's water is

679
00:36:31,360 --> 00:36:34,319
Speaker 2: sent through a UV filter because UV filters are really

680
00:36:34,320 --> 00:36:40,040
Speaker 2: good at disrupting reproduction of bacteria, and so all water

681
00:36:40,280 --> 00:36:43,400
Speaker 2: is apped. But that ninety percent of water that's not

682
00:36:43,480 --> 00:36:46,560
Speaker 2: filtered that goes through a separate UV filtering plant that's

683
00:36:46,560 --> 00:36:49,200
Speaker 2: built just for those, that's right, And that's where like

684
00:36:49,239 --> 00:36:51,720
Speaker 2: a billion gallons of water a day are z apped

685
00:36:51,760 --> 00:36:55,880
Speaker 2: with UV lights. But so all of that gets combined

686
00:36:55,920 --> 00:37:00,760
Speaker 2: together eventually and comes out your tap. And New Yorkers

687
00:37:01,480 --> 00:37:04,680
Speaker 2: drink it straight from the tap. Literally. It is very

688
00:37:04,680 --> 00:37:07,240
Speaker 2: bizarre because I don't know if it's a placebo effect

689
00:37:07,320 --> 00:37:10,680
Speaker 2: or what, but I feel like it does taste pretty

690
00:37:10,680 --> 00:37:13,799
Speaker 2: good for tap water. It does, but at the same time,

691
00:37:13,840 --> 00:37:17,160
Speaker 2: I typically don't drink just straight tapwater, so my frame

692
00:37:17,200 --> 00:37:19,160
Speaker 2: of reference isn't necessarily right there.

693
00:37:19,320 --> 00:37:21,359
Speaker 1: You want to hear something funny, Yeah, you know what

694
00:37:21,360 --> 00:37:23,880
Speaker 1: my brother's favorite water is and what it's probably just

695
00:37:23,920 --> 00:37:26,839
Speaker 1: a bit, but he claims it's true. What hose water?

696
00:37:28,239 --> 00:37:29,440
Speaker 2: Oh, I know what he's talking about.

697
00:37:30,040 --> 00:37:32,960
Speaker 1: Yeah, like when you're watering the car or watering the car.

698
00:37:33,000 --> 00:37:36,759
Speaker 1: When you're washing the car, here's right, grow car when

699
00:37:36,800 --> 00:37:39,399
Speaker 1: you're watering your mini, so it grows into an suv, right.

700
00:37:39,719 --> 00:37:43,680
Speaker 2: So I think the reason why Scott is onto something

701
00:37:43,719 --> 00:37:46,320
Speaker 2: is because when you're drinking from a hose, it's summertime

702
00:37:46,360 --> 00:37:47,040
Speaker 2: and it's hot.

703
00:37:46,880 --> 00:37:48,720
Speaker 1: Out, yeah, and you're probably working hard.

704
00:37:50,280 --> 00:37:53,160
Speaker 2: Maybe it definitely it definitely does taste different, for sure.

705
00:37:53,800 --> 00:37:57,280
Speaker 1: So when it comes to New York water, everyone says

706
00:37:57,280 --> 00:38:00,920
Speaker 1: it's the best in the country. There are rankings, actually,

707
00:38:01,480 --> 00:38:05,480
Speaker 1: and it is thirteen out of one hundred metro areas

708
00:38:05,520 --> 00:38:06,080
Speaker 1: in the US.

709
00:38:06,480 --> 00:38:09,239
Speaker 2: So it's not the best literally by definition, not the

710
00:38:09,239 --> 00:38:10,160
Speaker 2: best water in the cut.

711
00:38:10,200 --> 00:38:12,360
Speaker 1: You've got to move to Arlington, Texas if you want.

712
00:38:13,400 --> 00:38:16,600
Speaker 1: And this this was from ten years ago, but I'm

713
00:38:16,640 --> 00:38:18,839
Speaker 1: not sure what the current status is. Imagine Arlington's still

714
00:38:18,920 --> 00:38:19,640
Speaker 1: up there though.

715
00:38:19,800 --> 00:38:21,279
Speaker 2: Sure, but you're going to have to have a lot

716
00:38:21,320 --> 00:38:24,600
Speaker 2: more reasons than that to move to Arlington, Texas. Ouch

717
00:38:26,440 --> 00:38:27,480
Speaker 2: that one, I'm not taking that.

718
00:38:27,800 --> 00:38:29,840
Speaker 1: What are some of the problems though with New York water.

719
00:38:30,160 --> 00:38:33,320
Speaker 2: Well, there's two big problems. Turbidity, which you mentioned earlier,

720
00:38:33,360 --> 00:38:38,320
Speaker 2: which is sediment suspension in the water, which gives it

721
00:38:38,400 --> 00:38:41,600
Speaker 2: kind of a cloudy or darker, gritty kind of look,

722
00:38:42,040 --> 00:38:45,040
Speaker 2: which is it's not just that it looks bad, its

723
00:38:45,600 --> 00:38:48,440
Speaker 2: pathogens can cling to that sediment, so it's not something

724
00:38:48,440 --> 00:38:51,680
Speaker 2: you want suspended. Plus it also makes it much more

725
00:38:51,680 --> 00:38:54,800
Speaker 2: difficult to filter that stuff out. It's like extra work

726
00:38:54,840 --> 00:38:57,360
Speaker 2: that has to be done to get rid of that sediment.

727
00:38:57,880 --> 00:38:59,879
Speaker 2: And if you're not filtering your water to begin with,

728
00:39:00,360 --> 00:39:03,839
Speaker 2: that's kind of a problem. And then secondly, the other

729
00:39:03,960 --> 00:39:09,520
Speaker 2: one is nutrients. It's over nutrient meaning it's just packed

730
00:39:09,520 --> 00:39:10,520
Speaker 2: with ribal flavor.

731
00:39:12,840 --> 00:39:16,560
Speaker 1: Well, what it actually is is fertilizer runoff. You know,

732
00:39:16,800 --> 00:39:20,759
Speaker 1: those farmers are doing their best, but there is fertilizer

733
00:39:21,239 --> 00:39:25,520
Speaker 1: that goes downstream and runs into the watersheds, and phosphorus

734
00:39:25,560 --> 00:39:29,040
Speaker 1: is one of the biggest problems because farmers do fertilize

735
00:39:29,040 --> 00:39:33,240
Speaker 1: with phosphorus and if it runs off. The phosphorus alone

736
00:39:33,520 --> 00:39:35,440
Speaker 1: is not great because it can cause algae blooms and

737
00:39:35,480 --> 00:39:38,840
Speaker 1: stuff like that, and it can taste bad and stink.

738
00:39:39,239 --> 00:39:41,480
Speaker 2: Yeah, because when the algae dies, it decays and it

739
00:39:41,520 --> 00:39:42,479
Speaker 2: does not smell good.

740
00:39:42,560 --> 00:39:46,160
Speaker 1: No, it does not smell good. But a bigger problem, though,

741
00:39:46,640 --> 00:39:48,800
Speaker 1: is when you combine that with the chlorine. Because, like

742
00:39:48,840 --> 00:39:52,799
Speaker 1: we said, New York water is chlorinated and fluoridated. We

743
00:39:52,880 --> 00:39:54,080
Speaker 1: have the T shirts to prove.

744
00:39:53,920 --> 00:39:56,480
Speaker 2: It, right. I don't think we said it was fluoridated,

745
00:39:56,480 --> 00:39:57,399
Speaker 2: but yeah, everybody knows.

746
00:39:57,480 --> 00:40:02,640
Speaker 1: Yeah it's fluoridated. And when you combine that chlorine with

747
00:40:02,680 --> 00:40:08,120
Speaker 1: a phosphorus, it can create byproducts called disinfection byproducts, and

748
00:40:08,160 --> 00:40:09,200
Speaker 1: that is no good at all.

749
00:40:09,440 --> 00:40:13,600
Speaker 2: No, those are nasty. They're called d bps and they

750
00:40:13,960 --> 00:40:20,840
Speaker 2: are basically like chemicals that are accidentally made from sanitizing water.

751
00:40:21,360 --> 00:40:24,520
Speaker 2: And not just with chlorine, but chlorine chlorine. There's a

752
00:40:24,520 --> 00:40:27,440
Speaker 2: bunch of different stuff that they use to disinfect water,

753
00:40:27,800 --> 00:40:32,000
Speaker 2: and all of them can combine with organic compounds to

754
00:40:32,080 --> 00:40:39,640
Speaker 2: create really just nasty stuff like carcinages or carcinogens. Some

755
00:40:39,680 --> 00:40:44,120
Speaker 2: can produce miscarriages. It's just really really bad stuff that

756
00:40:44,160 --> 00:40:45,880
Speaker 2: can be produced in the drinking water.

757
00:40:46,160 --> 00:40:48,399
Speaker 1: Chloroform is one of those byproducts.

758
00:40:48,840 --> 00:40:52,080
Speaker 2: Yeah, which is why New Yorkers frequently faint when they're

759
00:40:52,120 --> 00:40:53,040
Speaker 2: drinking tapwater.

760
00:40:53,840 --> 00:40:58,720
Speaker 1: But this all sounds super scary New York City. They are.

761
00:40:59,400 --> 00:41:01,880
Speaker 1: They have I think there are eight to known contaminants,

762
00:41:03,000 --> 00:41:06,760
Speaker 1: but they are still apparently well under the legal limit,

763
00:41:07,920 --> 00:41:09,960
Speaker 1: depending on what you think about how the legal limits

764
00:41:09,960 --> 00:41:10,400
Speaker 1: are set.

765
00:41:10,280 --> 00:41:12,360
Speaker 2: Up for it, right, exactly, it's a good caveat.

766
00:41:12,360 --> 00:41:14,560
Speaker 1: But New York City drinking water is thirty point nine

767
00:41:14,600 --> 00:41:18,360
Speaker 1: parts per billion chloroform and the national average is eleven.

768
00:41:18,440 --> 00:41:21,000
Speaker 1: So they're way higher on chloroform. But as far as

769
00:41:21,000 --> 00:41:24,799
Speaker 1: all of those DBPs total, they're far below the legal

770
00:41:24,840 --> 00:41:27,440
Speaker 1: limit and just a little bit above average nationally.

771
00:41:28,000 --> 00:41:31,239
Speaker 2: Right, And then the total number of DBPs that they

772
00:41:31,280 --> 00:41:34,000
Speaker 2: have is actually less than those in Arlington.

773
00:41:34,160 --> 00:41:34,960
Speaker 1: So interesting.

774
00:41:35,120 --> 00:41:36,320
Speaker 2: Chew on that Arlington.

775
00:41:36,440 --> 00:41:38,640
Speaker 1: That's right, Chew on that bad pizza.

776
00:41:39,080 --> 00:41:43,560
Speaker 2: Speaking of chewing, Chuck and pizza. Let's just answer this question.

777
00:41:44,080 --> 00:41:47,480
Speaker 2: Is New York City's water the key ingredient to New

778
00:41:47,560 --> 00:41:49,640
Speaker 2: York City bagels and pizza? H?

779
00:41:49,920 --> 00:41:52,600
Speaker 1: I think, I mean, you can't definitively say, but I

780
00:41:52,600 --> 00:41:54,600
Speaker 1: think it does have something to do with it. For sure.

781
00:41:54,800 --> 00:41:58,680
Speaker 2: It's got to because science is involved. So here's the thing.

782
00:41:59,000 --> 00:42:02,120
Speaker 2: The water from the Catskills and from the Delaware is

783
00:42:02,239 --> 00:42:06,839
Speaker 2: naturally soft, meaning that it's lowing calcium and magnesium. Where

784
00:42:06,880 --> 00:42:10,239
Speaker 2: do you fall on loving softer hard water? I'm a

785
00:42:10,280 --> 00:42:12,200
Speaker 2: hard water guy, same here man.

786
00:42:12,360 --> 00:42:15,560
Speaker 1: When I lived in Arizona, they had soft water where

787
00:42:15,600 --> 00:42:19,120
Speaker 1: I lived in my sister's house that I lived in,

788
00:42:19,120 --> 00:42:23,160
Speaker 1: and most of the houses had water softening or I

789
00:42:23,160 --> 00:42:26,240
Speaker 1: guess hardening units or whatever in the house.

790
00:42:26,840 --> 00:42:29,319
Speaker 2: Yeah, because you can't feel clean, like you never feel

791
00:42:29,360 --> 00:42:32,280
Speaker 2: like you got the shampoo or the soap off. It's awful.

792
00:42:32,800 --> 00:42:33,800
Speaker 2: It's just awful.

793
00:42:33,840 --> 00:42:35,279
Speaker 1: Does anyone like soft water?

794
00:42:35,640 --> 00:42:37,720
Speaker 2: I don't know, weirdo's probably.

795
00:42:37,800 --> 00:42:41,320
Speaker 1: I mean hard water. Sorry, no, I had it all backwards.

796
00:42:42,120 --> 00:42:44,240
Speaker 2: Okay, So so you like soft water.

797
00:42:44,160 --> 00:42:47,960
Speaker 1: Yeah, that's why I actually, that's why I misspoke. They

798
00:42:47,960 --> 00:42:51,400
Speaker 1: had water softeners in Arizona because the water was hard

799
00:42:52,200 --> 00:42:53,360
Speaker 1: New York water is soft.

800
00:42:53,480 --> 00:42:57,359
Speaker 2: I like soft, Okay, I like hard water typically because

801
00:42:57,400 --> 00:43:01,359
Speaker 2: I feel like I'm clean afterward. But water like just

802
00:43:01,400 --> 00:43:03,920
Speaker 2: the New York water is fine with me. But a

803
00:43:04,040 --> 00:43:07,360
Speaker 2: softened like a chemically softened water, I can't stand.

804
00:43:07,440 --> 00:43:09,440
Speaker 1: Oh really, yes, interesting.

805
00:43:10,200 --> 00:43:14,480
Speaker 2: But New York's is naturally soft, so it doesn't have calcium, magnesium,

806
00:43:14,560 --> 00:43:17,480
Speaker 2: or it's very low in those things comparatively, and that

807
00:43:17,560 --> 00:43:20,960
Speaker 2: actually has an effect on taste, like calcium and magnesium

808
00:43:21,040 --> 00:43:23,959
Speaker 2: can provide like a bitter taste to water. So there's

809
00:43:24,000 --> 00:43:26,759
Speaker 2: one thing that they're saying, like, Okay, the dough isn't

810
00:43:26,800 --> 00:43:30,000
Speaker 2: going to taste naturally bitter because of the calcium magnesium.

811
00:43:30,160 --> 00:43:33,600
Speaker 1: That's something that is something, and it also interacts with

812
00:43:33,640 --> 00:43:36,239
Speaker 1: the flour. If you're going to make a bagel or

813
00:43:36,239 --> 00:43:39,080
Speaker 1: a biali or pizza crust, sure you can be or

814
00:43:39,400 --> 00:43:41,440
Speaker 1: you know a lot of things when you're baking, but

815
00:43:41,480 --> 00:43:43,640
Speaker 1: those are the big three. In New York. You're going

816
00:43:43,719 --> 00:43:47,239
Speaker 1: to be using flour and water as your base for

817
00:43:47,360 --> 00:43:51,200
Speaker 1: your dough and hard water. The minerals in those tapwater

818
00:43:51,239 --> 00:43:53,320
Speaker 1: are going to fortify the gluten and they're going to

819
00:43:53,400 --> 00:43:56,320
Speaker 1: make it tough and less flexible. You don't want it

820
00:43:56,360 --> 00:43:58,920
Speaker 1: too soft, though, because it'll have the opposite effect. It

821
00:43:58,920 --> 00:44:00,319
Speaker 1: will be gooey and you won't be able to work

822
00:44:00,320 --> 00:44:03,480
Speaker 1: it as well. Right, And apparently the American Chemical Society

823
00:44:03,480 --> 00:44:06,400
Speaker 1: says New York City tap water is the Goldilocks of

824
00:44:06,440 --> 00:44:07,120
Speaker 1: bagel water.

825
00:44:07,719 --> 00:44:10,760
Speaker 2: It is just right yep, not too hard, not too soft,

826
00:44:11,040 --> 00:44:14,279
Speaker 2: just perfect for a begel and for a pizza. And

827
00:44:14,480 --> 00:44:17,839
Speaker 2: that that American Chemical Society quote came from a Smithsonian

828
00:44:17,960 --> 00:44:21,359
Speaker 2: article and they went on to say, probably though, it's

829
00:44:21,400 --> 00:44:24,520
Speaker 2: actually the techniques that New Yorkers use to make bagels.

830
00:44:24,560 --> 00:44:27,520
Speaker 2: Like they poach the bagel dough first, like they boil it.

831
00:44:28,080 --> 00:44:30,920
Speaker 1: That's the only way to do a bagel. Sure it's boiled,

832
00:44:31,000 --> 00:44:31,640
Speaker 1: it's not a bagel.

833
00:44:31,880 --> 00:44:32,400
Speaker 2: No it's not.

834
00:44:32,520 --> 00:44:35,480
Speaker 1: It's like a bake donut. It's not a donut basically.

835
00:44:35,760 --> 00:44:40,439
Speaker 2: And then they also will they'll let the yeast sit

836
00:44:40,560 --> 00:44:42,359
Speaker 2: for a little while to make it for mint, which

837
00:44:42,400 --> 00:44:48,280
Speaker 2: creates volatile flavor compounds, so it just tastes better. They're saying,

838
00:44:48,360 --> 00:44:51,160
Speaker 2: probably those are the reasons why New Yorkers make better

839
00:44:51,200 --> 00:44:54,839
Speaker 2: bagels or pizza. And it's not really the water. The

840
00:44:54,880 --> 00:44:57,360
Speaker 2: water just contributes a very small amount.

841
00:44:58,440 --> 00:44:59,640
Speaker 1: I think it's all those things.

842
00:45:00,080 --> 00:45:02,480
Speaker 2: Why not? No one can say for certain, so let's

843
00:45:02,520 --> 00:45:05,279
Speaker 2: just say yes, it is exactly things. Well, if you

844
00:45:05,320 --> 00:45:07,479
Speaker 2: want to know more about New York City's tap water,

845
00:45:07,600 --> 00:45:10,759
Speaker 2: go on to New York City and try their tap water.

846
00:45:11,239 --> 00:45:15,719
Speaker 2: And since I said that it's time for listener mail everybody.

847
00:45:16,520 --> 00:45:20,919
Speaker 1: I'm gonna call this house rolling. And we talked about

848
00:45:20,920 --> 00:45:24,680
Speaker 1: tepeing houses. Yep, love the podcast. Guys, just finish up

849
00:45:24,680 --> 00:45:27,520
Speaker 1: trick or treating, and you were talking about rolling houses.

850
00:45:27,640 --> 00:45:31,000
Speaker 1: I grew up in Franklin, Tennessee, where we used to

851
00:45:31,040 --> 00:45:34,279
Speaker 1: roll houses all the time. In Franklin, Tennessee, for people

852
00:45:34,360 --> 00:45:37,239
Speaker 1: don't know, is where a lot of big shot Nashville

853
00:45:37,680 --> 00:45:40,640
Speaker 1: big wigs live because you can buy a huge house

854
00:45:40,680 --> 00:45:45,040
Speaker 1: with lots of land. That was Chuck speaking right. Funny

855
00:45:45,040 --> 00:45:48,280
Speaker 1: thing though, guys, I'm back to being Brandon. Okay, funny

856
00:45:48,280 --> 00:45:51,160
Speaker 1: thing though, guys. My neighbor was Brad Paisley. There was

857
00:45:51,160 --> 00:45:53,560
Speaker 1: a couple of years before his first Grammy award. And

858
00:45:53,600 --> 00:45:55,520
Speaker 1: once we found this out, we knew that we had

859
00:45:55,560 --> 00:45:57,759
Speaker 1: to get them. So my sister and I gathered all

860
00:45:57,800 --> 00:46:00,440
Speaker 1: of our friends dressed in black and snow out to

861
00:46:00,520 --> 00:46:03,839
Speaker 1: roll this country. Music Stars house. We were halfway through

862
00:46:03,840 --> 00:46:07,560
Speaker 1: the job when his freaking tour bus rolled up on us.

863
00:46:08,120 --> 00:46:09,960
Speaker 1: At first, we all ran away frightened, but we were

864
00:46:10,000 --> 00:46:12,480
Speaker 1: pretty much caught in the act. Nowhere to go. He

865
00:46:12,520 --> 00:46:14,200
Speaker 1: got off the bus and was super nice about the

866
00:46:14,200 --> 00:46:16,400
Speaker 1: whole thing. Actually, he gave us a quick tour of

867
00:46:16,400 --> 00:46:19,040
Speaker 1: the tour bus, chatted us up for a little while.

868
00:46:19,360 --> 00:46:21,040
Speaker 1: We even cleaned up the little bit of mess we

869
00:46:21,040 --> 00:46:24,560
Speaker 1: had made, and left starstruck. I highly doubt he remembers

870
00:46:24,560 --> 00:46:26,000
Speaker 1: that night at all, but my friends and I will

871
00:46:26,040 --> 00:46:29,399
Speaker 1: certainly never forget anyway. That's all I got. Guys, have

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Speaker 1: a spooky Halloween. That is from Brandon Saunders.

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Speaker 2: That is very nice. Brandon, thanks a lot for that email,

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Speaker 2: and hats off to Brad Paisley for being so cool.

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Speaker 1: He doesn't take his hat off, but.

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Speaker 2: All right, exactly, but also how about just a hat

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Speaker 2: tip then?

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Speaker 1: Yeah? Or actually I was thinking Kenny Chesney because he's bald.

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Speaker 2: None of those guys take their hats off, dude. So

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Speaker 2: but also he hangs out with Peyton Manning, which means

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Speaker 2: that he must be a good guy. Right, Oh yeah,

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Speaker 2: isn't Peyton a good dude?

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Speaker 1: Sure? I'm just tired of seeing him on my TV.

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Speaker 2: Oh that's not gonna app anytime soon. Pretty soon you'll

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Speaker 2: see them in augmented reality, and you're going to say

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Speaker 2: everywhere you go, like it or not, Charles. Okay, Well,

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Speaker 2: if you want to get in touch with this, like

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Speaker 2: Brad Paisley did, you can go on to stuff youshould

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