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Speaker 2: Are we feeling, guys?

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Speaker 3: How are you?

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Speaker 2: What a night of baseball? What a night at baseball?

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Speaker 2: Say that again? The best Jonason inspired me?

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Speaker 4: You know once he kind of called out the fact

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Speaker 4: I was like, maybe I watch a little bit with

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Speaker 4: the girls. Man, they were into it, they were excited.

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Speaker 4: I uh, I forgot my uh my mother in law

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Speaker 4: Yankees extended a little further. You know what I'm saying,

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Speaker 4: Little goungs there, how you doing?

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Speaker 2: You know.

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Speaker 1: Where did the Red Sox fall in the pecking order

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Speaker 4: I think there's somewhere below the Bruins and Pats, though,

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Speaker 4: like probably Pats, Bruins, Red Sox Celtics.

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Speaker 1: I think that uh this and it'll never happened. And

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Speaker 1: it's awesome. It's awesome because right out of the gate

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Speaker 2: So I think it's fair and the atmosphere is fantastic too.

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Speaker 1: What's wrong, sticks.

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Speaker 3: Well, what's up with your Cubs? I mean, we're putting

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Speaker 4: Just leaky legal What was the payroll difference between those

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Speaker 3: I just could remember the Rizzo years when I was there,

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Speaker 3: not made from from this this earth, like Judge is not.

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Speaker 3: Just doesn't like really like doing analysis work or like

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Speaker 3: would I ever call a baseball game or be a

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Speaker 2: I guess I leave that to you guys.

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Speaker 3: And I've enjoyed listening to the commentary of family family,

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Speaker 3: thanks for that, guys. I'm I'm happy to be.

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Speaker 2: A part of them.

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Speaker 1: If there's a if you can sense the stress level

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Speaker 1: It's why the Penn State Oregon game was great television

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Speaker 3: Well, it's always a good comparison when when it comes

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Speaker 3: being a sore sore winner right now had we won

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Speaker 3: that game. I feel like football Jesus didn't want us

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Speaker 3: to win because of the type of person I would

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Speaker 2: That I mean, be the most mature.

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Speaker 4: I'm from Pittsburgh, right, but like even I was like, hey,

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Speaker 4: Notre Dame beat him so bad that Sam Pittman got

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Speaker 3: Like, geez, like you have as many We don't have

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Speaker 2: Though I understand that.

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Speaker 4: But my season, I'm just by the end of the season,

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Speaker 2: Buddy, I'm gonna tell you.

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Speaker 3: Hey, don't buddy me when we're talking about Penn State.

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Speaker 3: All right, Hey buddy, you don't, buddy, We are bros.

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Speaker 3: But but don't. But you know, buddy, when my brother

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Speaker 3: is like his is uh what what is that on

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Speaker 3: the side of your your your your stomach, your ear?

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Speaker 3: What's on the side your liver? Bleak? The oblique?

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Speaker 2: Is that what? It's a liver shot? Yeah, liver shot, buddy.

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Speaker 1: Buddy was the dismissive term that would get you going.

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Speaker 3: Yeah that my brother would hit me with, Hey, buddy,

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Speaker 3: not pal like chill buddy, not jerko.

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Speaker 5: My buddy, buddy, my buddy.

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Speaker 3: Car He's going to go, my buddy, buddy, my buddy.

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Speaker 1: I think, buddy, you have any loser kids actually asked

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Speaker 1: any real friends Can I get it? Can I get

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Speaker 1: a stuffed animal that looks like a human? What a

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Speaker 1: bunch of losers? Are those cabbage patch kids?

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Speaker 3: Yeah? Like they look like it a little bit though,

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Speaker 6: Because something about the way cabbage patch kids smelled.

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Speaker 1: Oh my goodness, really I want to sniff one right now.

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Speaker 3: Back to grown man talking and then it's like my buddy,

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Speaker 3: yeah yeah, but we we we're going forehead to forehead

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Speaker 3: And then when paled, when pal come out, then you

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Speaker 2: We was going to touch gloves. You know what about chief?

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Speaker 2: If someone's like all right, chief, how do you take

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Speaker 3: I've always been skinny, bruh, except my belly in my face.

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Speaker 2: That's it.

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Speaker 3: It's the only thing that get away from me. I

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Speaker 3: But I'm not doing it for that. I'm doing it

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Speaker 2: They work really really.

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Speaker 3: Well though, like they're they're like, I'm like Buster Douglas.

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Speaker 3: not like one of these yoked up boxers out here.

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Speaker 3: But but these things right here they're working muscles. Hey

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Speaker 3: Larry Holmes underrated boxer. Yeah, they're working muscles. I will

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Speaker 1: Ah. Now, not to uh, not to deter from you know,

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Speaker 1: To Brady thoughts on Tribe time, Game three Tiggers, Guardians

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Speaker 2: Electric at three etric atmosphere. Yeah, I'm uh.

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Speaker 1: Now do you have do you have any Guardians gears?

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Speaker 1: It all the Indian stuff anymore.

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Speaker 4: I don't have one thing that says Guardians on it. Look,

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Speaker 4: I was never whatever what do you mean by that?

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Speaker 3: Oh?

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Speaker 4: Yeah, all I know is there will be enough juice

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Speaker 2: All right, That's all I know.

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Speaker 4: But I'm not gonna try to break down the games

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Speaker 4: no one cares. What there is this conspiracy theory out

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Speaker 4: how major League Baseball wanted it all game threes? And

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Speaker 4: just wanted to be close games, fun games, great atmosphere,

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Speaker 4: that it gets to three games and that every series

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Speaker 4: was like this conspiracy theory floating around there online. Tom, Like,

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Speaker 4: first off, why are you complaining it's awesome? Like these

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Speaker 4: how is major League Baseball catching this stray for this?

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Speaker 1: And also if you look at the matchups, Cleveland Detroit

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Speaker 1: what this is. And that's why the MLB postseason is

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Speaker 3: Is the CE in the logo from the old logos

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Speaker 3: list or is it? Is it new? Is the C

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Speaker 1: Time all the Guardians.

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Speaker 3: I know that the Guardians is different, and I know

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Speaker 1: It looks similar same, it does look similar, but they

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Speaker 3: Think there's like two or three different seas.

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Speaker 1: You believe you're not going to find a lot you're

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Speaker 1: I think you're right. It's their way around the old

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Speaker 3: Yeah, that's pretty cool.

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Speaker 4: The the old sea was like the top of it

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Speaker 2: It's pointed.

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Speaker 3: But that's not they didn't have that in the old

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Speaker 4: Yeah, the old Sea was just like rounded at the

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Speaker 2: See.

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Speaker 3: I feel like then they should use the old sea

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Speaker 3: swag man.

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Speaker 2: Like that's what I think the problem.

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Speaker 3: I mean sometimes like because you know, Washington didn't have

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Speaker 3: But you couldn't get away with the R because the

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Speaker 3: R still represented red skin.

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Speaker 2: Right.

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Speaker 3: So but you guys got a see for Cleveland, I

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Speaker 3: used that old seed, like I would have never change

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Speaker 3: the sea. Wat change the sea? Well, just keep the

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Speaker 1: Most of the old stuff as Chief Wahoo, which.

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Speaker 2: Was you know, the Vinta. But the sea doesn't, I know,

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Speaker 3: And that gives you an opportunity to still kind of

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Speaker 4: I just sent you guys a picture of the Cleveland

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Speaker 4: nineteen eighty six.

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Speaker 2: You know what it is?

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Speaker 1: The face mask.

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Speaker 3: It is the face mask.

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Speaker 1: They literally added an extra bar on the face mask.

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Speaker 2: Little little elf.

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Speaker 4: You know, yeah, something like that. The problem is they

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Speaker 1: I didn't realize that it was an elf, And I

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Speaker 2: Well it's it probably lived longer than yours though, right, Yeah,

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Speaker 3: Jonas's bull mastiff was was five hundred pounds.

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Speaker 1: Why do you guys always embellish it? It was five

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Speaker 1: thirty eight all right at peak, at peak, and then

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Speaker 1: Rough, but we are brought to you by the home depot.

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Speaker 1: that long two thousand and thirteen.

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Speaker 2: Maybe do you still think about don't?

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Speaker 1: I have no choice. I have his pawprint tattooed on

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Speaker 1: my shoulder. I'm trying to get away from it.

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Speaker 2: It's a tad bit. Almost said a slur. That's pretty aggressive. Yeah,

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Speaker 3: That's pretty well.

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Speaker 2: You did it. It's not like someone else did.

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Speaker 1: I know. I thought it was a great idea. It's awful.

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Speaker 3: But you had two mastiffs.

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Speaker 2: Didn't make the cut.

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Speaker 1: The other one died early. He died at like seven

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Speaker 1: bloat man, look up bloat.

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Speaker 2: It's brutal.

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Speaker 3: But I'm just saying, but you didn't get the bloated

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Speaker 3: wasn't long around long enough?

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I don't. I don't know what, they give you.

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Speaker 3: Enough great memories.

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Speaker 2: I think seven years.

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Speaker 1: I think I was so traumatized that I thought, uh,

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Speaker 3: And then he lived in a We didn't even know

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Speaker 1: Oh nice, So I called him Iron little thingy.

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Speaker 3: By the way.

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Speaker 1: People won't get that.

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Speaker 2: That was hey man.

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Speaker 3: You know, that was when Lufa's first came out. Literally,

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Speaker 2: Yeah. So we were.

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Speaker 1: So yeah, it was Ironhead, but he had like different

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Speaker 1: here in about fifteen minutes from now. Speaking of Cleveland,

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Speaker 1: speaking of the Browns, they made a decision yesterday at quarterback,

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Speaker 1: Joe Flacco has been benched. Dylan Gabriel is going to

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Speaker 1: be the starter, with Joe Flacco being number two on

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Speaker 1: the depth chart and Shadoor Sanders remaining number three, and

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Speaker 1: so Kevin Stefanski, the head coach, discussed the decision into

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Speaker 1: giving Dylan Gabriel the opportunity and also uh was asked

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Speaker 1: about why Shador didn't move further up the depth chart.

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Speaker 9: From the second he's been here. He's been working very hard,

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Speaker 9: very intelligent young man. He's he's done a nice job

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Speaker 9: throughout practice this whole season. He's been learning how to

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Speaker 9: get yourself ready and understand the rhythm of an NFL

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Speaker 9: week and what that looks like as a backup. And

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Speaker 9: obviously now feel like he's ready, that's going as a starter.

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Speaker 3: And they're talking about Dylan Gabriel right there.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, he's talking about Dylan Gabriel.

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Speaker 2: Who do you think he was talking about?

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Speaker 3: Well, I was just making sure that the audience out

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Speaker 3: there understood that because it's like, wait.

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Speaker 2: I know you're trying to it's a social at all.

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Speaker 2: It's a social.

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Speaker 3: What is the biggest hitlines? The biggest hitline when you

537
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Speaker 3: type in Browns, the first thing you should see come up.

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Speaker 3: ESPN pundits give Shador Sanders advice. Joe Flacco blindsided by

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Speaker 3: benching Dylan Gabriel, Schador Sanders facing questions God full full

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Speaker 3: mind Brown's quarterback tiers. Evaluating forty one starters from Cleveland

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Speaker 3: since ninety nine, two out of the foreheadlines that pop

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Speaker 3: up Q have Shador Sanders in them.

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Speaker 2: And we're talking.

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Speaker 3: I'm not trying to hype it up. I'm just telling

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Speaker 3: you that this is a conversation that brings in Shador

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Speaker 3: Sanders every single time I was. I asked the question

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Speaker 3: because I felt like I got it on the points

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Speaker 3: I finished.

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Speaker 4: We'll talk about why we're talking about him today because

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Speaker 4: we have sound. We have Shador's reaction to this news,

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Speaker 4: and that's why we're talking about it today. We're not

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Speaker 4: talking about it for any other reason other than what

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Speaker 4: he did yesterday in reaction to all this.

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Speaker 2: Is that fair? Yeah?

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Speaker 1: Yeah, and the sound of Shador from yesterday.

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Speaker 3: Let's hear it, well, can we hear him? Yeah, he's

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Speaker 3: a real question.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, he didn't. He didn't say anything, uh exactly. Kevin

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Speaker 1: Stefanski was asked about why Shador was not named the

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Speaker 1: the backup, and it sounded like this was there along

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Speaker 1: with changing to tilling.

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Speaker 5: Was there any conversation at all about that he should

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Speaker 5: have watch number two and making.

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Speaker 2: Sure Yeah, my focus is on this game. Jose backup.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, so shador no comment, turned into a mime, you know,

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Speaker 1: played along with the media.

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Speaker 2: A member of the Browns.

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Speaker 1: Media relations team pulled him away afterwards and there was no.

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Speaker 4: Co so just described what he did because I don't

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Speaker 4: think people understood the context. He the door, stood there

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Speaker 4: in front of the media and they asked him questions

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Speaker 4: and he moved his mouth, but he made no words

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Speaker 4: came out.

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Speaker 2: And he did this for what five minutes, four minutes

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Speaker 2: whatever it was?

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Speaker 1: Uh, yeah it was. It was a little while.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, it got to the point where and I had

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Speaker 4: a couple media people reach out and their comments were literally,

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Speaker 4: that was the oddest. That was the weirdest thing I've

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Speaker 4: ever experienced covering the Browns. And these are people who've

581
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Speaker 4: covered it for a long time. And I said to myself, like,

582
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Speaker 4: they've seen a lot of things like that's that's saying something.

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Speaker 4: But supposedly this was in response to something that was

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Speaker 4: said on ESPN by someone who's taken a lot of

585
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Speaker 4: uh a lot of hot takes so far this year.

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Speaker 2: Do we have this sound for Rex Ryan?

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Speaker 7: An outstanding coach, all right, but why the hell isn't

588
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Speaker 7: he putting should or Sanders. We're all waiting to see

589
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Speaker 7: this Shad or Sanders be the guy or Gabriel whatever.

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Speaker 7: Something's missing, something's missing with this kid. This kid talks,

591
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Speaker 7: he runs his mouth like he's a I could be

592
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Speaker 7: a starting quarterback with his arms crossed like this. Get

593
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Speaker 7: your ass in the front row and study and do

594
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Speaker 7: all that. If I know, the whole league, nos quld

595
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Speaker 7: be in an embarrassment that way. You got the talent

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Speaker 7: to be the quarterback, you should be you should be

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Speaker 7: embarrassed that you're not the quarterback now.

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Speaker 2: Oh wow.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, So supposedly this is why he didn't say anything,

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Speaker 4: and this is why he did what he did, which

601
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Speaker 4: was just incredibly odd.

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Speaker 2: Like I don't even know what to make of that.

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Speaker 4: It comes off as very immature as a response, even

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Speaker 4: if it was to Rex Ryan.

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Speaker 2: Kind of bizarre.

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Speaker 4: I mean, I've never seen a player handle things like

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Speaker 4: that before.

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Speaker 1: There's kind of cringey, kind of all that my old

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Speaker 1: thing on.

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Speaker 3: Day get out a dude in Cleveland reporter didn't he

611
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Speaker 3: like bathing? And after they won? That was in Cleveland

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Speaker 3: at last.

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Speaker 1: Oh that was Tim Tim McCarver. Yeah, the yeah, the broadcaster.

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Speaker 1: I I don't I look at it like this, if

615
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Speaker 1: should or obviously once would love to.

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Speaker 2: Be the starter.

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Speaker 1: He would love to be the guy that is starting

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Speaker 1: for the Browns this weekend and moving forward. And my

619
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Speaker 1: old thought on it, just in general NFL or anything,

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Speaker 1: if you want the job and you don't have the job,

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Speaker 1: then your job is to show why you should be

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Speaker 1: the guy who does. And he's done everything the opposite

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Speaker 1: to where Kevin Stefanski's having to answer questions about, hey,

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Speaker 1: you know, Shador says he's ready to start, It's okay, Well,

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Speaker 1: I think all of our young guys feel like they're

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Speaker 1: ready to start, and he turns into a mime yesterday

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Speaker 1: when there's a decision made at quarterback. The whole thing's

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Speaker 1: just odd And I don't know why. How could you

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Speaker 1: think that that would get you closer to an opportunity

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Speaker 1: to be somebody that they trust. And maybe this is

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Speaker 1: part of the reason why some of the stuff came

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Speaker 1: out in the draft. Why Brian Daball was like yeah,

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Speaker 1: like he wasn't prepared and then he got upset when

634
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Speaker 1: I called him out because you know, he didn't know

635
00:31:01,240 --> 00:31:04,880
Speaker 1: certain things, and like all these stories start to add up,

636
00:31:04,920 --> 00:31:07,680
Speaker 1: and you look at it and go, why would they

637
00:31:07,800 --> 00:31:10,680
Speaker 1: Why would Kevin Stefanski, whose job might be on the line,

638
00:31:10,840 --> 00:31:15,719
Speaker 1: trust his fate with the Browns on somebody who you know,

639
00:31:16,000 --> 00:31:18,320
Speaker 1: turns into a mind when people ask him about the

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00:31:18,360 --> 00:31:21,960
Speaker 1: quarterback situation there for five minutes or whatever. It was

641
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Speaker 1: just strange.

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Speaker 2: Man oh man, go ahead, Q, you want it, you

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Speaker 2: have it.

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Speaker 4: I mean, well, I've already said my part. I mean,

645
00:31:30,200 --> 00:31:32,080
Speaker 4: like I said, I've never seen anything.

646
00:31:31,760 --> 00:31:34,239
Speaker 2: Like this before. And this isn't like an exclusive thing

647
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Speaker 2: to the Browns.

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Speaker 4: I just I think it's an incredibly immature way of

649
00:31:38,040 --> 00:31:41,280
Speaker 4: handling the media, and for as medias savvy as he

650
00:31:41,440 --> 00:31:44,400
Speaker 4: is and the family is for that matter. You know,

651
00:31:44,440 --> 00:31:47,080
Speaker 4: you know he's been taught and raised different and so's

652
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Speaker 4: it's one of those moments where you know he like

653
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Speaker 4: he's a rookie, he's gonna make mistakes.

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Speaker 2: This to me is a mistake.

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Speaker 4: It's not how you you know, handle criticism from Rex Ryan.

656
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Speaker 4: And the other thing is is like he's always putting

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Speaker 4: out this like I don't live listen to the critics,

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Speaker 4: sim I don't listen to any of that. I don't

659
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Speaker 4: be so well, yeah, you do, cause you just did

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Speaker 4: one of the most bizarre things we have ever seen

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Speaker 4: as now a professional athlete in the NFL, and it's

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Speaker 4: only creating more stir like not for what you're doing

663
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Speaker 4: in practice or playing. Like one of the things that

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Speaker 4: we heard about Jackson Dart with the Giants organization and

665
00:32:21,240 --> 00:32:23,520
Speaker 4: Breer said this, And I had reached out to Dable

666
00:32:23,600 --> 00:32:25,480
Speaker 4: and talked to some of the people in the organization

667
00:32:25,560 --> 00:32:29,120
Speaker 4: and this is like earlier on in camp, and they're like, yeah,

668
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Speaker 4: we feel like this thing is like he's right, like

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Speaker 4: more ready than we thought, Like he's more ready to

670
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Speaker 4: take over and be the guy than we thought. But

671
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Speaker 4: we're gonna kind of stick with the plan and see

672
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Speaker 4: how this thing goes. And so when you see Jackson

673
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Speaker 4: Dart succeed and they even even light the world on fire,

674
00:32:44,640 --> 00:32:47,280
Speaker 4: but they gotta win, then that was a change. And

675
00:32:47,440 --> 00:32:49,120
Speaker 4: you watch how he handles the press, you watch how

676
00:32:49,120 --> 00:32:51,000
Speaker 4: he handles everything. You're like, Okay, that guy seems like

677
00:32:51,040 --> 00:32:53,960
Speaker 4: he's ready for it. Does this make anyone feel like

678
00:32:54,040 --> 00:32:55,920
Speaker 4: Shade or Sanders is ready to take over the rains

679
00:32:55,960 --> 00:32:59,040
Speaker 4: be the starting quarterback? Like it leaves me to think

680
00:32:59,080 --> 00:33:03,160
Speaker 4: that if you're not gonna listen to a guy like

681
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Speaker 4: Rex Ryan, who's probably hearing from people inside the Browns

682
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Speaker 4: organization because there's always leaks there that whatever he's doing

683
00:33:12,480 --> 00:33:15,840
Speaker 4: or whatever they've seen, you know, seen heard that he's

684
00:33:15,880 --> 00:33:18,840
Speaker 4: not ready. Like he's trying to give a little bit

685
00:33:18,880 --> 00:33:21,000
Speaker 4: of advice here, Like I know it comes off as

686
00:33:21,240 --> 00:33:26,720
Speaker 4: him being critical or you know, providing criticism, but the

687
00:33:26,800 --> 00:33:30,160
Speaker 4: reality is he's trying to get you to be the

688
00:33:30,200 --> 00:33:31,800
Speaker 4: guy that Cleveland's hoping you'll be.

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Speaker 2: You say you are. I think a lot of people

690
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Speaker 2: are hoping you'll be.

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Speaker 4: And so if you if you don't want to, you know,

692
00:33:38,360 --> 00:33:40,560
Speaker 4: listen to that and take that as like, all right,

693
00:33:41,160 --> 00:33:42,600
Speaker 4: maybe I need to look in the mirror. Maybe I'm

694
00:33:42,640 --> 00:33:46,400
Speaker 4: not doing something the right way. But instead that's your response,

695
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Speaker 4: I don't know like that, That to me leads me

696
00:33:50,200 --> 00:33:51,800
Speaker 4: to think that what he does get the play and

697
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Speaker 4: things don't go, well, who do you think he's gonna blame?

698
00:33:54,160 --> 00:33:54,320
Speaker 2: Then?

699
00:33:54,400 --> 00:33:57,600
Speaker 4: Who do you think he's gonna point the finger at?

700
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Speaker 2: He's said Rex Ryan.

701
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Speaker 3: If I know everyone knows that's a damning comment like

702
00:34:06,920 --> 00:34:09,440
Speaker 3: that is a that is something to really if I

703
00:34:09,480 --> 00:34:12,919
Speaker 3: wish the door, I wouldn't be handling it that way,

704
00:34:12,960 --> 00:34:15,120
Speaker 3: I'd be sitting there and I'd be thinking about it, like, man,

705
00:34:15,200 --> 00:34:17,319
Speaker 3: I gotta make sure I have a job. You know

706
00:34:17,400 --> 00:34:20,800
Speaker 3: what third string quarterbacks represent, you know what third string

707
00:34:20,920 --> 00:34:24,560
Speaker 3: anything represents. You're actually closer to being out the door

708
00:34:24,600 --> 00:34:27,880
Speaker 3: than you are in the door. Let's just be clear here, Like,

709
00:34:27,960 --> 00:34:32,120
Speaker 3: that's that's a real You are the most expendable player

710
00:34:32,600 --> 00:34:37,520
Speaker 3: on a roster outside of a practice squad player, which

711
00:34:37,960 --> 00:34:40,560
Speaker 3: some would say third string is a.

712
00:34:40,440 --> 00:34:41,520
Speaker 2: Practice squad player.

713
00:34:42,400 --> 00:34:46,000
Speaker 3: Like that's that's the reality of the position. But then

714
00:34:46,080 --> 00:34:49,920
Speaker 3: now what jumped out at me is again, as the

715
00:34:50,000 --> 00:34:55,080
Speaker 3: question was asked and Stefanski said, I'm concentrating on this game,

716
00:34:56,080 --> 00:34:58,919
Speaker 3: you did not because you probably at one in three

717
00:34:58,960 --> 00:35:03,640
Speaker 3: you would probably lease Joe Flacco if you felt like

718
00:35:03,680 --> 00:35:07,439
Speaker 3: Shador Sanders was a legitimate option to go to as

719
00:35:07,480 --> 00:35:10,799
Speaker 3: a player, and you would elevate him to back up.

720
00:35:11,880 --> 00:35:14,640
Speaker 3: You did not elevate him to back up. You kept

721
00:35:14,680 --> 00:35:19,120
Speaker 3: him at third string while elevating your backup to starter.

722
00:35:20,440 --> 00:35:23,279
Speaker 3: And he's a rookie. So if you just if you

723
00:35:23,360 --> 00:35:26,040
Speaker 3: take the naming rights of this out of the equation

724
00:35:26,280 --> 00:35:30,520
Speaker 3: and you just look at this at at face value,

725
00:35:30,719 --> 00:35:34,160
Speaker 3: there again, I was surprised he made the team. I

726
00:35:34,239 --> 00:35:37,280
Speaker 3: really was, because I didn't think that they would carry

727
00:35:37,360 --> 00:35:41,120
Speaker 3: all three of them, and being a fifth round draft pick,

728
00:35:41,120 --> 00:35:43,120
Speaker 3: I just I know, you get guaranteed money or you

729
00:35:43,120 --> 00:35:46,759
Speaker 3: get a contract out of the situation, but I just

730
00:35:46,760 --> 00:35:51,880
Speaker 3: didn't think he'd make the roster. As you move forward

731
00:35:52,360 --> 00:35:55,879
Speaker 3: and you see a team that is failing, and a

732
00:35:56,040 --> 00:36:01,880
Speaker 3: failing team isn't taking a more serious look and approach

733
00:36:02,160 --> 00:36:09,160
Speaker 3: to how you move up and elevate into the roster

734
00:36:09,280 --> 00:36:12,879
Speaker 3: and how that may play out. I think that that

735
00:36:13,560 --> 00:36:16,000
Speaker 3: you're now making book. If I'm around the league, this

736
00:36:16,120 --> 00:36:19,759
Speaker 3: is not more of a personal, you know, opinion. I

737
00:36:19,800 --> 00:36:23,279
Speaker 3: think it's more of a general assumption and opinion as

738
00:36:23,320 --> 00:36:27,960
Speaker 3: it would apply to other teams, other gms. If I'm

739
00:36:28,040 --> 00:36:31,799
Speaker 3: looking at how this is playing out in Cleveland, he

740
00:36:31,920 --> 00:36:39,000
Speaker 3: becomes a radio active player. And when you look at

741
00:36:39,200 --> 00:36:42,160
Speaker 3: when you look at how it all played out in

742
00:36:42,239 --> 00:36:48,560
Speaker 3: the draft, and how the narratives were so strong towards Shador,

743
00:36:49,080 --> 00:36:53,319
Speaker 3: and how the whole draft was driven by Shador and

744
00:36:53,480 --> 00:36:56,920
Speaker 3: all of these storylines that continue to come out. The

745
00:36:56,960 --> 00:37:01,440
Speaker 3: worst thing that Shador Sanders could ever do is whether

746
00:37:01,520 --> 00:37:03,600
Speaker 3: for right or for wrong, whether I'm gonna be me,

747
00:37:04,120 --> 00:37:07,600
Speaker 3: and I'm i'm aa for right or for wrong. The

748
00:37:07,640 --> 00:37:11,600
Speaker 3: worst thing you could ever do is prove any critics

749
00:37:11,760 --> 00:37:15,120
Speaker 3: right in terms of how you handle things. That's the

750
00:37:15,160 --> 00:37:19,040
Speaker 3: worst thing that could happen, because now who's gonna want

751
00:37:19,080 --> 00:37:25,080
Speaker 3: to bring that type of player into into their facility.

752
00:37:25,760 --> 00:37:27,759
Speaker 3: I just don't I don't know. I don't know that

753
00:37:27,880 --> 00:37:30,960
Speaker 3: this works out the way that Shador Sanders wants it

754
00:37:31,040 --> 00:37:34,240
Speaker 3: to work out. If there isn't a come to Jesus moment.

755
00:37:34,920 --> 00:37:38,440
Speaker 3: The come to Jesus moment is you are not Deon Sanders.

756
00:37:38,480 --> 00:37:43,120
Speaker 3: You are not prime time, your Shadoor, your shadoor b Chador.

757
00:37:43,640 --> 00:37:46,839
Speaker 3: Do what you need to do and hope that those

758
00:37:46,960 --> 00:37:50,200
Speaker 3: those efforts are good enough, because even when you're good enough,

759
00:37:50,560 --> 00:37:53,560
Speaker 3: the numbers game says that a lot of times you're

760
00:37:53,560 --> 00:37:56,640
Speaker 3: not even gonna get that opportunity that you thought or

761
00:37:56,640 --> 00:37:59,400
Speaker 3: hoped you would get. So I think he's in a

762
00:37:59,480 --> 00:38:03,920
Speaker 3: tough situation here, and maturity, immaturity, whatever you want to

763
00:38:03,960 --> 00:38:05,919
Speaker 3: call it, it could cost him here. And that would

764
00:38:05,960 --> 00:38:09,520
Speaker 3: be said if his actions off off of the field

765
00:38:10,000 --> 00:38:12,400
Speaker 3: would actually cost him an opportunity on it.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, but I think that depends though speaking of depends depending.

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Speaker 2: Coop, Hey, what's happening, guys? Oh, have a little bit

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Speaker 2: more excitement to be with us? God?

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Speaker 2: Guys? Yeah, you're a liar? All right.

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Speaker 6: Well, I don't know if you guys saw this, but

802
00:39:47,520 --> 00:39:51,120
Speaker 6: former All Pro defensive back is Even Howard abruptly retired

803
00:39:51,800 --> 00:39:54,799
Speaker 6: a couple of days after playing the Los Angeles Rams. Now,

804
00:39:55,200 --> 00:39:58,040
Speaker 6: I'm I'm not as old as you, guys, but you know,

805
00:39:58,040 --> 00:39:59,960
Speaker 6: I've been watching the NFL for a while. The first

806
00:40:00,000 --> 00:40:02,360
Speaker 6: I might remember anything like this happening was Vonte Davis

807
00:40:02,719 --> 00:40:08,040
Speaker 6: a while back. But a halftime yes, yeah, but I mean,

808
00:40:08,120 --> 00:40:11,560
Speaker 6: did was that like other than for injury? Did people

809
00:40:11,760 --> 00:40:13,640
Speaker 6: just like retire in the middle of a season that

810
00:40:13,680 --> 00:40:14,879
Speaker 6: didn't really happen back in the day?

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Speaker 3: Right, No, it's not that like medically reason but yeah,

812
00:40:19,920 --> 00:40:21,320
Speaker 3: just I'm just I'm done.

813
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Speaker 2: Like it's not very comtimes, you know when you know right.

814
00:40:24,800 --> 00:40:26,479
Speaker 6: Yeah he said, he just said, just wants to spend

815
00:40:26,520 --> 00:40:28,760
Speaker 6: more time with his family. He's tired of putting football first.

816
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Speaker 3: You got no win to hold them? Good for him, No,

817
00:40:33,760 --> 00:40:38,840
Speaker 3: when fold them enjoy retirement. He'll be out once it

818
00:40:38,880 --> 00:40:42,239
Speaker 3: gets home. Twenty four hours a day. I'll be back.

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Speaker 1: So you know it wasn't so bad. Do I still

820
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Speaker 1: have that contract.

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Speaker 3: I'll be back on Monday, full weekend to figure it

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Speaker 3: out