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Speaker 4: And that's how it felt with Marcusohl hitting his first

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Speaker 3: Got it, that's Norm with an exclamation mark for sure.

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Speaker 3: still alive. That's what it felt like. No, I don't know,

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Speaker 3: It was so slow. Everything was such such a difficult shot.

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Speaker 3: Yes, yes, I love it. He showed up Norm did Who.

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Speaker 1: It would have been awesome if it went in, but whatever,

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Speaker 1: he came and showed up just like Norman Paul does

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Speaker 1: But you're exactly right, task, how do you keep track

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Speaker 3: Because yeah, I forgot.

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Speaker 1: Grant Williams making two corner threes. I was like, what

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Speaker 1: so much happened in this game. Uh and for me,

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Speaker 3: That was incredible. Man, that guy. He I don't know.

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Speaker 6: Daniel Tyss had three dunks and Jason Tatum had a

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Speaker 6: like we're going down on my watch, yeah basically, and

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Speaker 6: An incredible job and Nick Nurse making a nice little

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Speaker 4: Funny.

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Speaker 6: Yeah, I think Tatum absolutely thought it was his teammate

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Speaker 2: I don't know there.

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Speaker 3: Should be, because that was a little ridiculous. That bug.

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Speaker 1: You got the box in one, you got the triangle

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Speaker 1: I mean, that was a clutch situation. That's kind of

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Speaker 3: Yeah, true. Sure.

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Speaker 4: o j Anobi was guarding. No doubt. The clutch shots

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Speaker 3: Right now, while I'm not so good right now.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, he tried to tear that jersey and it wasn't

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Speaker 4: do that jersey tear on the starters. No it doesn't.

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Speaker 3: Sorry, are you done there? Yeah?

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Speaker 4: I mean I could talk for years, but I'm gonna

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Speaker 6: Well, Marcasol hitting a big three late, I mean that

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Speaker 3: He hit big shots of course down the stretch normal.

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Speaker 3: We've talked about Kyle, motherfucking dog. He's incredible and yeah,

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Speaker 4: Jim mccollin's tweet. CJ mccollin tweeted, Kyle's got to stop

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Speaker 2: Was just he was leaving them short. That was a

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Speaker 6: He was going he was pushing rather than shooting them,

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Speaker 3: I one hundred percent agree with that.

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Speaker 6: So when they're you know, when they're in that position,

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Speaker 3: and I've said, you know, my fair share of things,

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Speaker 3: criticizing him from some decisions late when he was the

435
00:20:06,800 --> 00:20:11,359
Speaker 3: Raptors go to guy. My god, Siakam isn't even close

436
00:20:11,400 --> 00:20:13,840
Speaker 3: to a Demarto Rosen. It's tough. It's tough, and that's

437
00:20:13,840 --> 00:20:16,800
Speaker 3: why you needed these contributions from the other guys chipping in,

438
00:20:17,080 --> 00:20:20,359
Speaker 3: because he can't get anything going. Okay, hit the shot,

439
00:20:20,440 --> 00:20:23,720
Speaker 3: hit one big shot. It's big. Every shot counts down

440
00:20:23,760 --> 00:20:25,560
Speaker 3: the stretch there. But that was really it.

441
00:20:25,600 --> 00:20:28,000
Speaker 1: Besides the frudal man it looked it almost looked like

442
00:20:28,000 --> 00:20:29,760
Speaker 1: he was point shaving out there the way he was.

443
00:20:29,840 --> 00:20:32,000
Speaker 1: He was missing layups all the time, like he was

444
00:20:32,040 --> 00:20:34,439
Speaker 1: getting open shots and the guy was still missing layups.

445
00:20:34,440 --> 00:20:36,119
Speaker 1: But the good thing for the Celtics is that Jason

446
00:20:36,119 --> 00:20:38,399
Speaker 1: Tatum really isn't not playing Siakam. In the past couple

447
00:20:38,440 --> 00:20:40,600
Speaker 1: of games, they've done a very good job on Tatum

448
00:20:40,640 --> 00:20:43,320
Speaker 1: making his shots tough. And Kemba Walker played fifty two

449
00:20:43,320 --> 00:20:45,639
Speaker 1: minutes and scored five points. Ahs, that happened.

450
00:20:45,720 --> 00:20:47,840
Speaker 3: That's a tough. That's some pretty good defense.

451
00:20:47,880 --> 00:20:49,760
Speaker 1: If you're the Raptors, you know they definitely like to

452
00:20:49,800 --> 00:20:52,720
Speaker 1: switch things up in obviously they're making it a point

453
00:20:52,760 --> 00:20:56,440
Speaker 1: to playing a little bit smaller makes it tougher for

454
00:20:56,520 --> 00:20:58,920
Speaker 1: kemmy to get those easy step in three pointers, those

455
00:20:58,920 --> 00:21:01,560
Speaker 1: easy jump shots. They threw him off a little bit,

456
00:21:01,720 --> 00:21:04,040
Speaker 1: and it has been big. You know, he's had an

457
00:21:04,119 --> 00:21:05,679
Speaker 1: up and down series. He's had a great game, then

458
00:21:05,680 --> 00:21:07,280
Speaker 1: a bad game, then a great game, then a bad game.

459
00:21:07,359 --> 00:21:09,960
Speaker 1: So you know, coming into game seven, you got to

460
00:21:09,960 --> 00:21:12,240
Speaker 1: be feeling a little confident that Kemba will bounce back.

461
00:21:12,280 --> 00:21:14,200
Speaker 1: But the Raptors have done a really good job taking

462
00:21:14,200 --> 00:21:16,760
Speaker 1: away the best offensive players on the Celtics.

463
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Speaker 3: Oh for sure. When Kemba, I mean late in the game.

464
00:21:19,680 --> 00:21:21,880
Speaker 3: Don't ask me what it was, but Kemba a rough

465
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Speaker 3: night all night. You're right, great job from the defense.

466
00:21:25,000 --> 00:21:26,639
Speaker 3: You know, there was some box and one of course,

467
00:21:26,680 --> 00:21:28,760
Speaker 3: and just completely just trying to shut him down, giving

468
00:21:28,840 --> 00:21:31,639
Speaker 3: him the current treatment there in the finals, but he

469
00:21:31,720 --> 00:21:35,000
Speaker 3: got matched up on og tasks and he cooked him.

470
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Speaker 3: He went to like a beautiful step back. Oh incredible

471
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Speaker 3: defender hit that, and I was like, oh, you know,

472
00:21:39,760 --> 00:21:42,160
Speaker 3: now now Kemba's here, Oh great, you know that's huge.

473
00:21:42,160 --> 00:21:44,400
Speaker 3: That might be it. And somehow they still pull this out.

474
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Speaker 3: But what did you think let's ask this, you know,

475
00:21:47,040 --> 00:21:49,639
Speaker 3: I know the being town boys need us to ask this.

476
00:21:49,760 --> 00:21:50,840
Speaker 4: We got to talk about them.

477
00:21:51,240 --> 00:21:53,960
Speaker 3: Yeah, Kemba was he fouled you know late there in overtime?

478
00:21:54,160 --> 00:21:55,919
Speaker 3: Did they swallow the whistle on that one? What's your

479
00:21:55,920 --> 00:21:59,320
Speaker 3: opinion with that regulation, Gez, I can't keep trying.

480
00:21:59,400 --> 00:22:02,040
Speaker 4: I understand, I understand, he listened. It was a rough

481
00:22:02,119 --> 00:22:06,399
Speaker 4: night up until that point. I like the the the

482
00:22:06,480 --> 00:22:09,480
Speaker 4: contrast in the reports from the coaches because they were

483
00:22:09,480 --> 00:22:12,240
Speaker 4: playing Box and one. On Kemba Walker. Nick Nurse said, yeah,

484
00:22:12,240 --> 00:22:14,000
Speaker 4: we're playing box and one. We're taking away a lot

485
00:22:14,000 --> 00:22:16,359
Speaker 4: of his stuff. Brad Stevens said, we're getting a lot

486
00:22:16,359 --> 00:22:18,160
Speaker 4: of good looks because they were playing Box and one.

487
00:22:18,440 --> 00:22:20,840
Speaker 4: I like these guys, and they're apparently they're hanging out

488
00:22:20,880 --> 00:22:23,560
Speaker 4: even in the in the bubble in the hotels. According

489
00:22:23,600 --> 00:22:27,199
Speaker 4: to Sam Amy, Brad Stevens and Nick Nurse amicable. But

490
00:22:27,240 --> 00:22:29,000
Speaker 4: then on the court they don't like each other. They

491
00:22:29,000 --> 00:22:31,560
Speaker 4: don't like these box and ones. But yeah, two seconds left.

492
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Speaker 4: What I talked about off the top with Kemba Walker

493
00:22:35,880 --> 00:22:40,280
Speaker 4: and the Ognnobi non call, shooting call, those two plays

494
00:22:40,359 --> 00:22:42,880
Speaker 4: they're back to back. Two seconds left, and zero point

495
00:22:42,960 --> 00:22:46,159
Speaker 4: nine seconds left at the end of regulation. I like

496
00:22:46,200 --> 00:22:48,679
Speaker 4: how the referee swallowed the whistle on the Kemba Walker play.

497
00:22:48,920 --> 00:22:51,840
Speaker 4: I know he was hit. He was definitely hit, but

498
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Speaker 4: he also had a chance at a layup. It was

499
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Speaker 4: he had to finish that play. I think he you

500
00:22:58,320 --> 00:23:00,439
Speaker 4: don't want to finish this game on free throw To me,

501
00:23:01,680 --> 00:23:03,720
Speaker 4: I know, it sounds sort of stupid and talking of

502
00:23:03,840 --> 00:23:05,480
Speaker 4: both sides of my mouth. But at the same time,

503
00:23:05,480 --> 00:23:07,760
Speaker 4: he could have finished that. And he got up and

504
00:23:07,800 --> 00:23:11,960
Speaker 4: he started yelling Monty Monty at Monti McCutchen, who was

505
00:23:12,000 --> 00:23:14,800
Speaker 4: the vice president of referee Development and training according to

506
00:23:15,280 --> 00:23:17,679
Speaker 4: the Athletic Reporting, who's sitting there at court side. He

507
00:23:17,720 --> 00:23:19,680
Speaker 4: wasn't yelling at the referees, but he's yelling at the

508
00:23:19,680 --> 00:23:20,600
Speaker 4: guy who runs.

509
00:23:20,320 --> 00:23:21,520
Speaker 3: The referrae supervisor.

510
00:23:21,640 --> 00:23:25,360
Speaker 4: Yeah. But at the same time, there was a sort

511
00:23:25,359 --> 00:23:27,280
Speaker 4: of a makeup call on the other end because it

512
00:23:27,359 --> 00:23:31,240
Speaker 4: was an alley attempt from Marcus sol inbound to Ogan

513
00:23:31,359 --> 00:23:34,119
Speaker 4: Andobi who touched the ball at the rim, and it

514
00:23:34,200 --> 00:23:36,960
Speaker 4: wasn't called a shooting foul. Again, I liked how it

515
00:23:37,040 --> 00:23:40,280
Speaker 4: wasn't decided on free throws. There probably should have been

516
00:23:40,280 --> 00:23:42,320
Speaker 4: more time put on the clock instead of zero point nine,

517
00:23:42,320 --> 00:23:44,920
Speaker 4: there was like one point nine really for the last

518
00:23:45,240 --> 00:23:48,840
Speaker 4: ditch attempt by Pascal Siakam. But it wasn't a shooting

519
00:23:48,880 --> 00:23:53,000
Speaker 4: attempt either. I know you people, the Raptors fans equally

520
00:23:53,080 --> 00:23:53,440
Speaker 4: is mad.

521
00:23:53,720 --> 00:23:54,960
Speaker 3: What is he doing up there.

522
00:23:54,800 --> 00:23:56,760
Speaker 4: If he's not shooting. He also didn't have the ball

523
00:23:56,800 --> 00:24:00,359
Speaker 4: in a shooting motion. He barely touched the ball. It's

524
00:24:00,440 --> 00:24:04,119
Speaker 4: an odd one, for sure, but I like in both instances,

525
00:24:04,160 --> 00:24:06,399
Speaker 4: whether it's a makeup call and a makeup call, I

526
00:24:06,520 --> 00:24:10,280
Speaker 4: like the fact that this makeup call isn't. Sort of

527
00:24:10,359 --> 00:24:13,800
Speaker 4: what happened in Game three of Milwaukee Miami, where the

528
00:24:13,880 --> 00:24:17,160
Speaker 4: game was decided by free throws. I think Kemba could

529
00:24:17,160 --> 00:24:20,440
Speaker 4: have finished it, and OG wasn't necessarily a shooting fail.

530
00:24:20,960 --> 00:24:23,520
Speaker 4: It's dumb, but I don't like free throws to end games,

531
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Speaker 4: and I do think. Don't you guys think that Kemba

532
00:24:26,680 --> 00:24:27,680
Speaker 4: could have finished?

533
00:24:27,720 --> 00:24:30,760
Speaker 1: Yes, yes, yeah, if he didn't get filed. I mean

534
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Speaker 1: that's the argument, right, you could have finished if he

535
00:24:32,640 --> 00:24:35,959
Speaker 1: didn't get fouled. I sighed on the same side as

536
00:24:36,000 --> 00:24:37,960
Speaker 1: you tasked swallow your whistle late in the game.

537
00:24:38,000 --> 00:24:38,720
Speaker 3: But that was a foul.

538
00:24:39,480 --> 00:24:39,720
Speaker 4: Yeah.

539
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Speaker 6: I mean the thing is both of them will fails

540
00:24:42,440 --> 00:24:44,960
Speaker 6: and both should have been shooting. I mean that's you know,

541
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Speaker 6: I understand that we don't want to an anti climatic

542
00:24:47,600 --> 00:24:49,920
Speaker 6: end for sure, but Kemba got hit while he's going

543
00:24:49,920 --> 00:24:52,359
Speaker 6: for a layup. That's why he missed. Predominantly, why he

544
00:24:52,359 --> 00:24:54,159
Speaker 6: missed the layup. He should have been shooting. And then

545
00:24:54,200 --> 00:24:57,240
Speaker 6: the OG thing, it's like, well, I just don't understand

546
00:24:57,280 --> 00:24:59,880
Speaker 6: how it can't be a shooting fail if he's cold

547
00:24:59,880 --> 00:25:01,919
Speaker 6: for a foul in that position, Like what is he

548
00:25:02,040 --> 00:25:03,720
Speaker 6: what else is he possibly trying to do?

549
00:25:04,920 --> 00:25:09,320
Speaker 3: Call shooting fouls on lobs all the time, all the time.

550
00:25:09,400 --> 00:25:14,040
Speaker 6: But that's yeah, so you know, it's frustrating to see that.

551
00:25:14,080 --> 00:25:16,119
Speaker 6: But again, the Celtics had a right to complain, but

552
00:25:16,480 --> 00:25:19,159
Speaker 6: again you should never I mean the makeup call is

553
00:25:19,200 --> 00:25:21,959
Speaker 6: the most frustrating call as well, because it's like, well,

554
00:25:21,960 --> 00:25:23,159
Speaker 6: we didn't call it the other end, so we're not

555
00:25:23,160 --> 00:25:23,879
Speaker 6: going to call it this end.

556
00:25:23,920 --> 00:25:26,400
Speaker 2: I mean, that's the two wrongs don't make it right.

557
00:25:26,480 --> 00:25:29,399
Speaker 6: But ultimately, listen, the Raptors won the game, so it

558
00:25:29,440 --> 00:25:32,040
Speaker 6: didn't matter. But it is frustrating when you're like, well,

559
00:25:32,080 --> 00:25:34,439
Speaker 6: there's clearly a foul there, and then on the other end,

560
00:25:34,480 --> 00:25:36,680
Speaker 6: it's like, that's clearly a shooting foul, and.

561
00:25:36,640 --> 00:25:39,879
Speaker 4: They really wanted to start that og play real quick.

562
00:25:40,320 --> 00:25:42,399
Speaker 4: We didn't even see a replay on the broadcast. They

563
00:25:42,520 --> 00:25:45,240
Speaker 4: just inbounded the ball, the referees did, and we didn't

564
00:25:45,240 --> 00:25:48,520
Speaker 4: get an extra second. There was literally a second. Mark

565
00:25:48,560 --> 00:25:52,000
Speaker 4: Jackson said it on the broadcast, A second ticked off. Yeah,

566
00:25:52,040 --> 00:25:54,280
Speaker 4: they could have got a better look. It could have

567
00:25:54,280 --> 00:25:56,879
Speaker 4: been a makeup call, no doubt, but he wasn't. He

568
00:25:57,000 --> 00:26:00,560
Speaker 4: also wasn't shooting. I don't know which you're saying, skitz.

569
00:26:00,800 --> 00:26:03,720
Speaker 4: I guess they're called an alley calls. But he touched

570
00:26:03,720 --> 00:26:06,400
Speaker 4: the ball and was hit, he wasn't shooting.

571
00:26:06,640 --> 00:26:08,320
Speaker 3: I Oh, I get I mean, I get it. I'm

572
00:26:08,359 --> 00:26:10,520
Speaker 3: just saying, you have definitely watched games before where a

573
00:26:10,520 --> 00:26:12,280
Speaker 3: guy throws an alley up to somebody and the guy

574
00:26:12,359 --> 00:26:15,359
Speaker 3: fouls him in the process of the alley oop and

575
00:26:15,440 --> 00:26:18,200
Speaker 3: they call it a shooting fowl. Yeah, I mean we've

576
00:26:18,200 --> 00:26:20,600
Speaker 3: seen that call before. You're you're not right, You're not wrong.

577
00:26:20,640 --> 00:26:23,240
Speaker 3: Excuse me. I mean, look, I get again. I will

578
00:26:23,240 --> 00:26:25,600
Speaker 3: say I think the Raps got the better whistle if

579
00:26:25,640 --> 00:26:27,560
Speaker 3: you added them all up. I think they did. I

580
00:26:28,160 --> 00:26:31,720
Speaker 3: truly do believe that. I'll admit that. But there's a lot,

581
00:26:31,760 --> 00:26:34,600
Speaker 3: you know, the Tatum flagrant. We could get in that

582
00:26:34,640 --> 00:26:36,520
Speaker 3: if we want, you know, a little crazy there. But

583
00:26:36,560 --> 00:26:39,440
Speaker 3: then we had Lowry, you know, his chin being busted open,

584
00:26:39,480 --> 00:26:42,120
Speaker 3: and we had Smart flopping everywhere. Of course Lowry loves

585
00:26:42,119 --> 00:26:44,480
Speaker 3: to do it too, O G Fowl. We got Nurse

586
00:26:44,520 --> 00:26:46,880
Speaker 3: in the middle. There's a lot of craziness going on here.

587
00:26:47,720 --> 00:26:50,119
Speaker 3: Did it even out just enough or did the Apps,

588
00:26:50,320 --> 00:26:52,280
Speaker 3: you know, pull ahead a little bit. I think the Raps,

589
00:26:52,440 --> 00:26:54,320
Speaker 3: just by a little bit, got the better whistle. But

590
00:26:55,080 --> 00:26:58,080
Speaker 3: I don't give us ship because I remember Raptor seasons

591
00:26:58,160 --> 00:27:01,080
Speaker 3: where we had about five games like taken away from

592
00:27:01,160 --> 00:27:03,439
Speaker 3: us because of that crap call. So for me, this

593
00:27:03,600 --> 00:27:06,920
Speaker 3: is just perfect. I mean, it's finally back to it's

594
00:27:06,920 --> 00:27:09,040
Speaker 3: a it's veered back to the Raptors side of things.

595
00:27:09,040 --> 00:27:12,080
Speaker 6: But the amount of times there was multiple bodies just

596
00:27:12,119 --> 00:27:15,080
Speaker 6: on the floor last night, especially towards the end, was hilarious.

597
00:27:15,080 --> 00:27:17,120
Speaker 6: Like guys would eat each other and then you'd look.

598
00:27:17,160 --> 00:27:19,480
Speaker 6: Sometimes you know, one team would be in transition, there'd

599
00:27:19,480 --> 00:27:21,080
Speaker 6: be two or three bodies just on the ground at

600
00:27:21,119 --> 00:27:23,760
Speaker 6: the other end, I mean, everyone was just so exhausted.

601
00:27:24,920 --> 00:27:27,560
Speaker 6: It was it was amazing to see that. But again,

602
00:27:27,600 --> 00:27:30,639
Speaker 6: that just shows the physicality of this series and guys

603
00:27:30,680 --> 00:27:32,800
Speaker 6: are certainly also trying to then, you know, get the

604
00:27:32,800 --> 00:27:35,200
Speaker 6: flop and get the embellishment from the.

605
00:27:35,160 --> 00:27:37,040
Speaker 2: Referees and it's funny to see.

606
00:27:37,040 --> 00:27:41,280
Speaker 6: But yeah, the Jason Tatum technical foul was a pretty

607
00:27:41,280 --> 00:27:43,919
Speaker 6: big point for the Raptors to get out of nothing

608
00:27:43,960 --> 00:27:46,480
Speaker 6: there because they don't you know, they don't call the

609
00:27:46,520 --> 00:27:48,760
Speaker 6: foul on Jason Tatum. They call the original foul I

610
00:27:48,760 --> 00:27:51,080
Speaker 6: think was on Og. But then because he sort of

611
00:27:51,080 --> 00:27:53,200
Speaker 6: whacked him in the mouth or the face there, they

612
00:27:53,240 --> 00:27:54,080
Speaker 6: call that a sort of.

613
00:27:54,200 --> 00:27:55,320
Speaker 2: Tech fowl afterwards.

614
00:27:55,320 --> 00:27:58,000
Speaker 6: So that was that was interesting because I don't think

615
00:27:58,000 --> 00:27:59,960
Speaker 6: there was any intention, and not that that matters that

616
00:28:00,000 --> 00:28:01,320
Speaker 6: these days. I mean, he hit someone in the head,

617
00:28:01,359 --> 00:28:03,080
Speaker 6: you basically get a tech fail. But then the Kyle

618
00:28:03,160 --> 00:28:06,040
Speaker 6: one you're talking about in the in real time, it

619
00:28:06,080 --> 00:28:08,320
Speaker 6: looked like Kyle was flopping, but then you look at

620
00:28:08,359 --> 00:28:09,760
Speaker 6: the replay and he gets whacked in the.

621
00:28:09,760 --> 00:28:12,439
Speaker 3: Chance that's the boy that cried wolf there right there, exactly.

622
00:28:13,760 --> 00:28:16,239
Speaker 3: You're always flopping Kyle, the one you actually got hit

623
00:28:16,240 --> 00:28:18,600
Speaker 3: and you need stitches for Sorry, Yeah, I thought you're flopping.

624
00:28:18,600 --> 00:28:20,720
Speaker 6: It caught up with him in the end. But but

625
00:28:20,720 --> 00:28:23,320
Speaker 6: but again, neither of those I thought were malicious or

626
00:28:23,320 --> 00:28:25,600
Speaker 6: anything like that. It's just arms are flying around and

627
00:28:25,600 --> 00:28:26,080
Speaker 6: they get hit.

628
00:28:26,160 --> 00:28:26,600
Speaker 2: Sometimes.

629
00:28:26,680 --> 00:28:28,800
Speaker 3: I think maybe two things save the Raptors seasons here,

630
00:28:28,960 --> 00:28:31,760
Speaker 3: let's talk about them. One my man Trey coming through

631
00:28:32,200 --> 00:28:35,159
Speaker 3: the Barnyonni jersey hashtags stand with skeets. It was a

632
00:28:35,440 --> 00:28:37,600
Speaker 3: it was a halftime or I guess into the second

633
00:28:37,640 --> 00:28:40,800
Speaker 3: half that he posts it always and uh, it's undefeated,

634
00:28:40,920 --> 00:28:43,320
Speaker 3: you standing in a Barnianni jersey. Undefeated.

635
00:28:43,840 --> 00:28:45,400
Speaker 1: We're gonna have to wait and see what happens for

636
00:28:45,440 --> 00:28:47,360
Speaker 1: Game seven here. You know, it's a tough game.

637
00:28:47,680 --> 00:28:49,440
Speaker 3: It's a tough game. But I want to make my call.

638
00:28:49,480 --> 00:28:50,840
Speaker 3: I said, how am I stand in?

639
00:28:51,680 --> 00:28:52,440
Speaker 2: What about the braid?

640
00:28:52,840 --> 00:28:56,360
Speaker 3: Save it? The brain in the braid.

641
00:28:57,080 --> 00:28:59,840
Speaker 1: I'm not gonna have this braid out until the Raptors

642
00:28:59,840 --> 00:29:03,200
Speaker 1: are eliminated from the playoffs. It's like I'm a col

643
00:29:03,400 --> 00:29:05,520
Speaker 1: in Game of Thrones. You know, they'll finally cut my

644
00:29:05,560 --> 00:29:05,959
Speaker 1: braid off.

645
00:29:06,000 --> 00:29:06,240
Speaker 7: Whatever.

646
00:29:07,440 --> 00:29:10,680
Speaker 2: Yeah, like coming to America as well. There it gets

647
00:29:10,720 --> 00:29:13,080
Speaker 2: it was. It was that your wife or I love

648
00:29:13,160 --> 00:29:14,160
Speaker 2: put that in there for you.

649
00:29:14,520 --> 00:29:19,160
Speaker 1: Excuse me, Lee, I handbraided this myself, please, ma, I.

650
00:29:19,080 --> 00:29:21,200
Speaker 3: Doesn't have to ask him life to put his hair

651
00:29:21,200 --> 00:29:21,920
Speaker 3: in a ponytail.

652
00:29:22,400 --> 00:29:23,800
Speaker 2: Yeah, but it's a braid. It's a braid.

653
00:29:23,840 --> 00:29:27,120
Speaker 3: It's not like, oh it looks terribly, it looks so bad.

654
00:29:27,200 --> 00:29:29,440
Speaker 1: Yeah, it looks terrible as a braid and it looks

655
00:29:29,480 --> 00:29:30,600
Speaker 1: terrible as a hairstyle.

656
00:29:30,760 --> 00:29:33,320
Speaker 3: But it got the win. It got the win. I mean, look,

657
00:29:33,520 --> 00:29:35,440
Speaker 3: I am how much money do you want me to

658
00:29:35,520 --> 00:29:38,520
Speaker 3: venmo you to wear the Barnianni jersey on Friday night? Man? Well,

659
00:29:38,560 --> 00:29:40,320
Speaker 3: I don't call it for the Barnianni. I was thinking

660
00:29:40,320 --> 00:29:43,560
Speaker 3: maybe the Abaca. I don't know. I want the Barnianni

661
00:29:43,640 --> 00:29:47,040
Speaker 3: number game seven, number seven lowry dominating when you're wearing

662
00:29:47,040 --> 00:29:48,720
Speaker 3: a seven on your chest. So it's got to be

663
00:29:48,760 --> 00:29:51,520
Speaker 3: the gotta be the camouflaged bargs there. The other thing

664
00:29:51,560 --> 00:29:53,520
Speaker 3: I think about it, Yeah, okay, do you think about it?

665
00:29:53,920 --> 00:29:58,320
Speaker 3: The other thing? Weggie number forty four? Did the wedgie

666
00:29:58,440 --> 00:30:04,200
Speaker 3: see yeah, oh yeah, I think it might have. That's

667
00:30:04,240 --> 00:30:06,880
Speaker 3: when it was looking bleak there for the Raps and

668
00:30:06,920 --> 00:30:09,040
Speaker 3: then Jalen Brown sticks wedgie number forty four on the

669
00:30:09,080 --> 00:30:11,840
Speaker 3: ear tasks and things started to go the rafters way

670
00:30:11,840 --> 00:30:14,320
Speaker 3: a little bit. It may save the season. Thegie.

671
00:30:14,440 --> 00:30:18,560
Speaker 4: The Weggie gods a nice clear wedgie as well, very clean.

672
00:30:18,760 --> 00:30:22,560
Speaker 4: You got to see it from our angle three point shot.

673
00:30:22,680 --> 00:30:25,800
Speaker 4: You see the arc, you watch it, You admire that thing,

674
00:30:25,840 --> 00:30:27,920
Speaker 4: and then it sticks in between the room and the backboard.

675
00:30:27,920 --> 00:30:29,720
Speaker 4: You have forty four. It's a nice number. I like

676
00:30:29,760 --> 00:30:33,320
Speaker 4: the number forty four, so even I don't know, it's

677
00:30:33,320 --> 00:30:36,160
Speaker 4: just I guess I just like the same number beside

678
00:30:36,200 --> 00:30:39,640
Speaker 4: each other. I don't know, but you know, we don't

679
00:30:39,640 --> 00:30:41,280
Speaker 4: have a lot of series left. We don't have a

680
00:30:41,320 --> 00:30:44,160
Speaker 4: lot of games left, so even if we haend on

681
00:30:44,200 --> 00:30:47,800
Speaker 4: forty four, it's nice. It's a nice, real nice ending

682
00:30:47,840 --> 00:30:51,240
Speaker 4: here to the Weggie season, which looked bleak because of

683
00:30:51,280 --> 00:30:54,120
Speaker 4: all the games we miss. So big stuff, big stuff

684
00:30:54,120 --> 00:30:57,360
Speaker 4: from Jalen Brown. Jalen Brown's shot. It's very hit or

685
00:30:57,360 --> 00:31:00,760
Speaker 4: miss right now. It's all over the place. It can

686
00:31:00,800 --> 00:31:02,480
Speaker 4: be money. He can look like he is going to

687
00:31:02,520 --> 00:31:05,040
Speaker 4: go on a streak for six or seven in a row,

688
00:31:05,080 --> 00:31:07,880
Speaker 4: and then all of a sudden, it's it's off left right.

689
00:31:09,480 --> 00:31:11,880
Speaker 4: So the Celtics. I don't know. It just feels like

690
00:31:11,920 --> 00:31:14,480
Speaker 4: they should be able to come through in situations like that.

691
00:31:14,480 --> 00:31:16,400
Speaker 4: That was two minutes left in the fourth quarter or

692
00:31:16,440 --> 00:31:21,360
Speaker 4: so to thirty, I think, And as a Raptors fan,

693
00:31:21,400 --> 00:31:23,560
Speaker 4: maybe maybe I'm flying back, you know, as a Raptors

694
00:31:23,560 --> 00:31:25,880
Speaker 4: support of flying back to the feeling that you mentioned

695
00:31:26,080 --> 00:31:29,000
Speaker 4: their earlier skeets were just felt like, Okay, no, this

696
00:31:29,080 --> 00:31:32,440
Speaker 4: is it. This we're done here. It looks like bang

697
00:31:32,480 --> 00:31:36,200
Speaker 4: bang bang, it's happening. But yeah, this guy's just didn't

698
00:31:36,200 --> 00:31:39,520
Speaker 4: come through. It's just that's the only way to put it.

699
00:31:39,520 --> 00:31:41,440
Speaker 4: And you can complain about fouls and all that, but

700
00:31:42,720 --> 00:31:44,360
Speaker 4: they just didn't hit buckets at the end there, when

701
00:31:44,400 --> 00:31:46,480
Speaker 4: the Raps also were not hitting buckets.

702
00:31:46,600 --> 00:31:48,600
Speaker 3: Yeah, throw some ice on your legs and get ready

703
00:31:48,600 --> 00:31:52,560
Speaker 3: for Friday, says Brad Stevens. Toronto did have a respectable

704
00:31:52,560 --> 00:31:56,560
Speaker 3: three point shooting night nineteen for forty seven overall, but

705
00:31:56,600 --> 00:31:58,960
Speaker 3: then Tatums Smart and Jillen Brown, who was on fire

706
00:31:59,040 --> 00:32:01,000
Speaker 3: in the first half. I thought Daalen Brown was going

707
00:32:01,000 --> 00:32:03,480
Speaker 3: for forty in this game. They combined to make fourteen

708
00:32:03,560 --> 00:32:06,240
Speaker 3: threes and they scored eighty three points. It was Kemba

709
00:32:06,280 --> 00:32:08,880
Speaker 3: of course having the rough night for the Celtics, So

710
00:32:09,720 --> 00:32:13,800
Speaker 3: every I guess road team has won in this series,

711
00:32:14,880 --> 00:32:17,680
Speaker 3: which is strange. Do we want to make a quick

712
00:32:17,720 --> 00:32:20,080
Speaker 3: prediction right now for Game seven? You want to just

713
00:32:20,080 --> 00:32:22,320
Speaker 3: save it for tomorrow's show and really get into it.

714
00:32:22,320 --> 00:32:24,360
Speaker 3: May We'll just save it because we're running long here already.

715
00:32:24,400 --> 00:32:27,280
Speaker 3: But what an unbelievable game. And that's on the shortlist

716
00:32:27,360 --> 00:32:30,920
Speaker 3: for you know, the Celtics are obviously a storied franchise

717
00:32:30,960 --> 00:32:33,640
Speaker 3: and have played in millions on millions of it feels

718
00:32:33,640 --> 00:32:35,880
Speaker 3: like playoff games and have their big moments and stuff

719
00:32:35,920 --> 00:32:37,880
Speaker 3: like that. But the Raptors, I mean, this is on

720
00:32:37,960 --> 00:32:40,240
Speaker 3: the this is on the shortlist tast I mean, it's

721
00:32:40,560 --> 00:32:44,000
Speaker 3: it's really what I guess, Bucks. I mean Game seven

722
00:32:44,080 --> 00:32:47,560
Speaker 3: versus the Sixers, and Game three, the double overtime game

723
00:32:47,680 --> 00:32:50,720
Speaker 3: versus the Bucks to save their season, maybe even Game

724
00:32:50,720 --> 00:32:52,200
Speaker 3: three from this series.

725
00:32:52,800 --> 00:32:56,520
Speaker 4: Yeah right, I mean it's just the best games red Yeah.

726
00:32:56,400 --> 00:32:58,800
Speaker 3: Like best or like most thrilling I guess, yeah, for

727
00:32:59,080 --> 00:32:59,520
Speaker 3: the most part.

728
00:32:59,600 --> 00:33:02,200
Speaker 4: Yeah, the Thrillers. Yeah, you got to throw in Game

729
00:33:02,240 --> 00:33:04,560
Speaker 4: six versus the Warriors just because it's yeah, they won

730
00:33:04,600 --> 00:33:08,280
Speaker 4: the ship. But yeah, I don't. Yeah, it's definitely gets

731
00:33:08,280 --> 00:33:11,320
Speaker 4: thrown in there for sure. And I like how even

732
00:33:11,320 --> 00:33:13,360
Speaker 4: though I mentioned Game six, even though Kyle Lowry did

733
00:33:13,400 --> 00:33:15,560
Speaker 4: a great job in that game and helped him win

734
00:33:15,600 --> 00:33:21,560
Speaker 4: the championship, obviously, this run without Kawhi Leonard is invoking

735
00:33:21,640 --> 00:33:24,160
Speaker 4: a lot of This guy is a Hall of Famer

736
00:33:24,200 --> 00:33:27,280
Speaker 4: amongst the people in the bubble, amongst everybody at home,

737
00:33:27,360 --> 00:33:29,560
Speaker 4: just because he is the leader and this was his

738
00:33:29,640 --> 00:33:31,320
Speaker 4: piece to resistance. For sure.

739
00:33:31,760 --> 00:33:32,760
Speaker 5: This is.

740
00:33:34,360 --> 00:33:38,880
Speaker 4: Yeah, it was. It's starting to separate him from Kawhi

741
00:33:38,960 --> 00:33:43,040
Speaker 4: Leonard a little bit, and just to give himself some Yeah,

742
00:33:43,080 --> 00:33:45,200
Speaker 4: you know, his own credit, his own credit. This guy's

743
00:33:45,240 --> 00:33:50,000
Speaker 4: thirty four and he's playing his best playoff basketball. You know,

744
00:33:50,040 --> 00:33:53,479
Speaker 4: you mentioned Demarta Rosen from the ages of twenty to thirty.

745
00:33:53,560 --> 00:33:55,720
Speaker 4: He was ridiculed, and so Kyle Lowry was kind of

746
00:33:55,720 --> 00:33:57,280
Speaker 4: thrown in that mix as well.

747
00:33:57,560 --> 00:34:00,760
Speaker 6: And yeah, his first couple of Playoffs series, Kyle was

748
00:34:00,840 --> 00:34:03,240
Speaker 6: like the biggest villain.

749
00:34:02,920 --> 00:34:03,720
Speaker 2: In raptor Is history.

750
00:34:04,160 --> 00:34:05,960
Speaker 3: Yeah, he was basically Eric Bledsoe.

751
00:34:06,040 --> 00:34:08,279
Speaker 6: He was remember when they you know, when they lost

752
00:34:08,320 --> 00:34:10,719
Speaker 6: to Brooklyn in seven and then they got swept by

753
00:34:10,719 --> 00:34:12,920
Speaker 6: the Wizards. It was like Kyle just can't perform in

754
00:34:12,960 --> 00:34:15,239
Speaker 6: the playoffs. That's like all of a sudden, Now that's

755
00:34:15,239 --> 00:34:16,960
Speaker 6: a million miles away from.

756
00:34:16,800 --> 00:34:17,680
Speaker 2: Where he is right now.

757
00:34:17,680 --> 00:34:20,560
Speaker 6: It was like every single time the Raptors needed a

758
00:34:20,600 --> 00:34:22,640
Speaker 6: big play, it seems to be Kyle was going to

759
00:34:22,719 --> 00:34:23,160
Speaker 6: have to do it.

760
00:34:23,400 --> 00:34:25,399
Speaker 4: You think he's gonna you think he's gonna flop during

761
00:34:25,400 --> 00:34:28,719
Speaker 4: his Hall of Fame speech on the stairs going up,

762
00:34:30,360 --> 00:34:33,560
Speaker 4: we'll see he's going to get in there. Oh, I guess.

763
00:34:33,320 --> 00:34:36,800
Speaker 3: Game seven Friday night again, nine pm. They're flipping these starts.

764
00:34:36,800 --> 00:34:39,120
Speaker 3: They want that Game seven in the guess sort of

765
00:34:39,160 --> 00:34:41,400
Speaker 3: super primetime spot for the at least people on the

766
00:34:41,400 --> 00:34:44,680
Speaker 3: West Coast. So nine o'clock on Friday night. We will

767
00:34:44,719 --> 00:34:46,760
Speaker 3: be back on Saturday morning. By the way, we're locking

768
00:34:46,800 --> 00:34:48,960
Speaker 3: that in to be recapping game seven. What are you

769
00:34:49,040 --> 00:34:49,760
Speaker 3: laughing about.

770
00:34:49,520 --> 00:34:51,560
Speaker 2: That the game might not be over by Saturday morning?

771
00:34:54,000 --> 00:34:56,839
Speaker 1: Last two Minutes, it's time we might have to launch

772
00:34:56,880 --> 00:34:59,160
Speaker 1: a new Last two Minutes podcast because there's a lot

773
00:34:59,239 --> 00:35:02,600
Speaker 1: to talk about. Yeah, maybe we go Friday night, Yeah,

774
00:35:03,000 --> 00:35:04,960
Speaker 1: live Refs podcast live with.

775
00:35:05,080 --> 00:35:07,920
Speaker 2: Four am just as yeah finishes, Yeah, all right.

776
00:35:08,040 --> 00:35:10,839
Speaker 3: Five overtimes, all right, we'll talk about we'll make our

777
00:35:10,840 --> 00:35:13,960
Speaker 3: predictions for Game seven on tomorrow's podcast, Gearing up for

778
00:35:14,000 --> 00:35:15,960
Speaker 3: that one? All right, the other game from yesterday, We

779
00:35:16,000 --> 00:35:17,759
Speaker 3: won't go as long on this one. Kawhi and the

780
00:35:17,760 --> 00:35:20,239
Speaker 3: Clippers beat the Nuggets ninety six eighty five. They take

781
00:35:20,239 --> 00:35:23,960
Speaker 3: the three to one series lead. Trey. The Clippers one

782
00:35:24,200 --> 00:35:26,920
Speaker 3: win away from their franchisees first ever trip to the

783
00:35:26,920 --> 00:35:29,920
Speaker 3: Western Conference Finals. But what do you think about this game?

784
00:35:29,960 --> 00:35:34,120
Speaker 3: And you know the Nuggets chances of still staying alive here, you.

785
00:35:34,080 --> 00:35:35,799
Speaker 1: Talk about a game that's hard to keep track of.

786
00:35:35,800 --> 00:35:38,160
Speaker 1: What happened? How about this one? It happened?

787
00:35:39,239 --> 00:35:39,720
Speaker 2: What else?

788
00:35:40,600 --> 00:35:41,640
Speaker 3: This was a boring game.

789
00:35:41,719 --> 00:35:44,720
Speaker 1: Kawhi Leonard had thirty points, but the Nuggets only scored

790
00:35:44,760 --> 00:35:47,600
Speaker 1: eighty five. That's the whole game right there. The Nuggets

791
00:35:47,680 --> 00:35:49,520
Speaker 1: could not figure out a way to score in the

792
00:35:49,560 --> 00:35:52,680
Speaker 1: second half against the Clippers. Feel it felt like every

793
00:35:53,160 --> 00:35:56,160
Speaker 1: highlight package that you saw was the Clippers just making

794
00:35:56,160 --> 00:35:58,800
Speaker 1: it impossible for Jamal Murray to get any sort of daylight.

795
00:35:58,880 --> 00:36:01,279
Speaker 1: And the Nuggets were kind of trying to win the

796
00:36:01,280 --> 00:36:03,440
Speaker 1: game on their own rather than playing together in the

797
00:36:03,480 --> 00:36:05,759
Speaker 1: second half, I thought, And that's why the story coming

798
00:36:05,760 --> 00:36:08,279
Speaker 1: out of this one is Michael Porter Junior saying you

799
00:36:08,320 --> 00:36:09,760
Speaker 1: need to get me more shots.

800
00:36:10,040 --> 00:36:11,480
Speaker 3: That is the biggest news out of this.

801
00:36:11,600 --> 00:36:14,600
Speaker 1: You know, I think he had fifteen points in the

802
00:36:14,640 --> 00:36:17,160
Speaker 1: first half. He ended up with fifteen, and he was

803
00:36:17,200 --> 00:36:21,200
Speaker 1: basically saying, there's more people on here than Yokichen, Jamal

804
00:36:21,280 --> 00:36:24,560
Speaker 1: Murray basically saying give me the ball, which you know,

805
00:36:24,719 --> 00:36:27,440
Speaker 1: maybe that would help, but it probably doesn't matter to me.

806
00:36:27,719 --> 00:36:30,560
Speaker 1: This one is over unless the Clippers just decide not

807
00:36:30,640 --> 00:36:31,919
Speaker 1: to play very hard in game five.

808
00:36:32,040 --> 00:36:34,600
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, that's he was asked. Porter was asked what

809
00:36:34,760 --> 00:36:36,520
Speaker 3: they do differently on you in the second half, and

810
00:36:36,560 --> 00:36:38,480
Speaker 3: he just said, I just didn't touch the ball. They

811
00:36:38,480 --> 00:36:41,120
Speaker 3: didn't do anything differently, And he sort of even doubled

812
00:36:41,120 --> 00:36:42,759
Speaker 3: down a little bit. I'll talk to coach below and

813
00:36:42,800 --> 00:36:45,920
Speaker 3: about it. You know, get me some looks because he scored,

814
00:36:46,000 --> 00:36:47,680
Speaker 3: like you said, all of his points in the first half.

815
00:36:48,640 --> 00:36:51,520
Speaker 4: You know, I guess you want to hear you can

816
00:36:51,600 --> 00:36:54,200
Speaker 4: I jump in there. He did sort of elaborate and

817
00:36:54,239 --> 00:36:57,600
Speaker 4: say against this team, you can't be predictable and you

818
00:36:57,680 --> 00:37:01,719
Speaker 4: need other guys to take part because Jokich and Murray

819
00:37:01,760 --> 00:37:04,080
Speaker 4: are stars, but we do need more touches. So there

820
00:37:04,239 --> 00:37:08,120
Speaker 4: was even though you don't usually see something like that

821
00:37:08,160 --> 00:37:10,879
Speaker 4: in a playoff game. You don't read headlines like these.

822
00:37:10,960 --> 00:37:13,920
Speaker 4: These are that's a regular season headline. Guy needs more

823
00:37:13,960 --> 00:37:17,279
Speaker 4: shots he did. I'll, you know, offer a little bit

824
00:37:17,280 --> 00:37:20,160
Speaker 4: more than that. You can go ahead now.

825
00:37:20,040 --> 00:37:23,799
Speaker 3: No, I actually I don't mind it. I mean I

826
00:37:23,960 --> 00:37:25,880
Speaker 3: like that if this guy is gonna be one of

827
00:37:25,920 --> 00:37:28,839
Speaker 3: your stars for the future. Okay, I mean, you got

828
00:37:28,880 --> 00:37:30,400
Speaker 3: a lot of things to work on out there. As

829
00:37:30,400 --> 00:37:34,640
Speaker 3: we've talked about, you're brutal defensively, so in the offseason,

830
00:37:34,840 --> 00:37:37,839
Speaker 3: put some work in on that end. But hey, he's

831
00:37:37,880 --> 00:37:41,200
Speaker 3: maybe not wrong. You know there obviously have completely bottled

832
00:37:41,280 --> 00:37:44,000
Speaker 3: up Jamal Murray Lee. I mean, he's he can't get anything.

833
00:37:44,080 --> 00:37:45,600
Speaker 3: I think a lot of credit needs to go to

834
00:37:45,640 --> 00:37:48,080
Speaker 3: Paul George, though we can't do that anymore because everybody

835
00:37:48,120 --> 00:37:50,360
Speaker 3: sort of hates Paul George and he did it to himself,

836
00:37:50,440 --> 00:37:53,520
Speaker 3: let's be honest a little bit. But he does deserve

837
00:37:53,640 --> 00:37:56,439
Speaker 3: some love here for his defensive effort, just taking Jamal

838
00:37:56,520 --> 00:37:58,320
Speaker 3: Murray out of a lot of these games, in my opinion,

839
00:37:58,360 --> 00:38:00,720
Speaker 3: and the Clippers died as a total, you know, holding

840
00:38:00,719 --> 00:38:03,640
Speaker 3: them to under forty percent three shot clock violations. I

841
00:38:03,680 --> 00:38:05,280
Speaker 3: think I mean, you don't see that all that often.

842
00:38:05,719 --> 00:38:07,960
Speaker 3: So yeah, but what do you think about Porter's comments

843
00:38:08,000 --> 00:38:09,960
Speaker 3: and what Paul George is doing on Jamal?

844
00:38:10,400 --> 00:38:13,279
Speaker 6: Yeah, Porter is a young guy and he's kind of like, hey, heck, come,

845
00:38:13,280 --> 00:38:15,840
Speaker 6: I'm not getting shots when our second star is struggling

846
00:38:15,880 --> 00:38:17,239
Speaker 6: a little bit and he's out there on the court

847
00:38:17,280 --> 00:38:18,120
Speaker 6: for thirty four minutes.

848
00:38:18,160 --> 00:38:19,279
Speaker 2: So you understand that.

849
00:38:19,360 --> 00:38:23,200
Speaker 6: But I think ultimately this game was the Clippers offense

850
00:38:23,280 --> 00:38:26,080
Speaker 6: wasn't super in this game itself, but their defense just

851
00:38:26,400 --> 00:38:28,359
Speaker 6: is too good for the Nuggets, and the Nuggets weren't

852
00:38:28,360 --> 00:38:30,239
Speaker 6: able to really break it down because it wasn't a

853
00:38:30,280 --> 00:38:32,320
Speaker 6: high scoring game and the Clips didn't shoot that well.

854
00:38:32,520 --> 00:38:34,560
Speaker 6: But when you've got guys like Paul George, who who

855
00:38:34,600 --> 00:38:36,680
Speaker 6: knows what Jamal Murray is capable if he saw him

856
00:38:36,719 --> 00:38:38,879
Speaker 6: go for fifty in that other series, so he sort

857
00:38:38,880 --> 00:38:40,759
Speaker 6: of takes on that challenge and it's like he's not

858
00:38:40,800 --> 00:38:43,200
Speaker 6: going to do it against me, and then the Clippers

859
00:38:43,280 --> 00:38:44,320
Speaker 6: defense is pretty strong.

860
00:38:44,360 --> 00:38:46,000
Speaker 2: So yeah, this game.

861
00:38:45,880 --> 00:38:48,720
Speaker 6: Was one where the Clippers were like, we can really

862
00:38:48,960 --> 00:38:51,520
Speaker 6: just take control of this series right here, and if

863
00:38:51,560 --> 00:38:54,240
Speaker 6: we can shut down their offense, our offense doesn't.

864
00:38:54,080 --> 00:38:55,720
Speaker 2: Need to be super super as.

865
00:38:55,600 --> 00:38:58,319
Speaker 6: Long as they're not scoring freely and in transition. So

866
00:38:59,160 --> 00:39:01,719
Speaker 6: it'll be interesting to say, see how Porter Jr. Responds

867
00:39:01,719 --> 00:39:03,560
Speaker 6: to this, because we know he's kind of a guy

868
00:39:03,560 --> 00:39:06,360
Speaker 6: who's not afraid to say what he's feeling and thinking.

869
00:39:07,160 --> 00:39:09,239
Speaker 6: But also when you're a young guy, sometimes you just

870
00:39:09,280 --> 00:39:10,960
Speaker 6: have to understand that that's the way it goes. That's

871
00:39:11,040 --> 00:39:12,799
Speaker 6: especially in the playoffs, that's just the way it is.

872
00:39:12,800 --> 00:39:14,920
Speaker 6: You have to learn. You have to earn those shots

873
00:39:14,920 --> 00:39:17,399
Speaker 6: in those minutes, and to some degree he has. But

874
00:39:17,800 --> 00:39:19,239
Speaker 6: when you have a game where you don't get them,

875
00:39:19,480 --> 00:39:22,600
Speaker 6: it's not great to be publicly sort of criticizing your

876
00:39:22,600 --> 00:39:24,600
Speaker 6: teammates and your coach, which he was in a not

877
00:39:24,680 --> 00:39:28,000
Speaker 6: in a completely emotional way, but he's having shots at

878
00:39:28,000 --> 00:39:30,280
Speaker 6: his coaches there, and that's not ideal.

879
00:39:30,719 --> 00:39:34,759
Speaker 4: Right, what do you go ahead, Well, PG, I don't

880
00:39:34,760 --> 00:39:37,960
Speaker 4: think anyone has ever called somebody trying to get around

881
00:39:37,960 --> 00:39:41,560
Speaker 4: a screen smooth, But Paul George, everything he does is smooth,

882
00:39:41,719 --> 00:39:45,439
Speaker 4: even chasing Jamal Murray around screens. He just doesn't never

883
00:39:45,600 --> 00:39:49,279
Speaker 4: over exerts himself. He knowed Jamal Murray knows that Paul

884
00:39:49,320 --> 00:39:52,440
Speaker 4: George is right there. Even though Nicola Jokic in that

885
00:39:52,520 --> 00:39:55,759
Speaker 4: big body that everyone's calling skinny these days, sets a

886
00:39:55,880 --> 00:40:00,880
Speaker 4: huge pick. Paul George somehow slyly sneaks round it, and

887
00:40:01,360 --> 00:40:05,120
Speaker 4: Jamal Murray to me, that's his only real bit of

888
00:40:05,200 --> 00:40:07,960
Speaker 4: daylight in this series. He's got to use that tiny,

889
00:40:08,480 --> 00:40:11,560
Speaker 4: tiny slice of daylight. He gets right there and fire away.

890
00:40:12,080 --> 00:40:14,920
Speaker 4: But Paul George, and you know the bigger body that

891
00:40:15,000 --> 00:40:17,080
Speaker 4: he is over Jamal Murray. You know that these five

892
00:40:17,120 --> 00:40:19,920
Speaker 4: inches he has or whatever he has, I guess that's

893
00:40:20,000 --> 00:40:22,120
Speaker 4: a little less, but he's right there. He knows that

894
00:40:22,120 --> 00:40:24,840
Speaker 4: that length is right there. Oh yeah, And he never

895
00:40:25,200 --> 00:40:28,400
Speaker 4: never gets caught on a screen, and he's finishing the

896
00:40:28,480 --> 00:40:31,680
Speaker 4: job for the Clippers there on every possession he's he's

897
00:40:31,719 --> 00:40:34,120
Speaker 4: starting to play like Paul George, even though you know

898
00:40:34,160 --> 00:40:37,600
Speaker 4: the offenses a float in and out. But he's had

899
00:40:37,640 --> 00:40:41,120
Speaker 4: a big game in this series. So it feels like

900
00:40:42,640 --> 00:40:45,960
Speaker 4: the Nuggets will be going home to their families after

901
00:40:46,120 --> 00:40:48,799
Speaker 4: Game five. And I'll add this in here. If I

902
00:40:48,840 --> 00:40:52,560
Speaker 4: heard on the broadcast correctly, Michael Porter Junior's dad is

903
00:40:52,600 --> 00:40:56,240
Speaker 4: in the building there. Players obviously can bring family members.

904
00:40:56,560 --> 00:41:00,120
Speaker 4: If I heard it correctly, the Denver Nuggets only have

905
00:41:00,160 --> 00:41:03,640
Speaker 4: one family member. All the players only have only one

906
00:41:03,719 --> 00:41:06,239
Speaker 4: family member, and that's Michael Porter. Junior's dead. Nobody else

907
00:41:06,239 --> 00:41:06,880
Speaker 4: brought family.

908
00:41:06,960 --> 00:41:09,560
Speaker 3: Is that they made that decision as a team.

909
00:41:09,840 --> 00:41:12,400
Speaker 4: Oh, I don't know. I have no idea what it was,

910
00:41:12,560 --> 00:41:15,680
Speaker 4: but that's what that's whoever was on the broadcast set.

911
00:41:16,000 --> 00:41:16,560
Speaker 4: That's crazy.

912
00:41:16,680 --> 00:41:18,040
Speaker 3: No wonder Michael Malone's upset.

913
00:41:18,080 --> 00:41:19,680
Speaker 1: He's like, we could have all these people here and

914
00:41:19,719 --> 00:41:20,719
Speaker 1: I don't get to have my wife.

915
00:41:21,080 --> 00:41:23,600
Speaker 4: Yeah, exactly exactly unless I heard it wrong, but that

916
00:41:23,920 --> 00:41:24,840
Speaker 4: was that was strange.

917
00:41:25,400 --> 00:41:27,040
Speaker 3: But you're right, Paul George Is. I think he's the

918
00:41:27,040 --> 00:41:28,600
Speaker 3: best guy in the league. I getting around his screen.

919
00:41:28,680 --> 00:41:31,400
Speaker 3: He's like water. He just like like morph's his body.

920
00:41:31,600 --> 00:41:33,840
Speaker 3: He is so damn smooth. He just can somehow like

921
00:41:33,960 --> 00:41:36,239
Speaker 3: mold around them and then still contest a shot or

922
00:41:36,239 --> 00:41:38,719
Speaker 3: stay close enough to a shooter like Jamal Murray. What

923
00:41:39,040 --> 00:41:41,280
Speaker 3: do you think from this? Anyone else like that wants

924
00:41:41,280 --> 00:41:42,799
Speaker 3: anything to add? The only thing I will say is

925
00:41:42,840 --> 00:41:45,160
Speaker 3: like the Clippers a little bit, because they're going to

926
00:41:45,200 --> 00:41:48,279
Speaker 3: be going on to play the Lakers, likely starting to

927
00:41:48,400 --> 00:41:51,719
Speaker 3: unlock Mantrez Harrell and Lou Williams a little bit, right,

928
00:41:51,920 --> 00:41:53,839
Speaker 3: you know, there was a little flashes I saw in

929
00:41:53,840 --> 00:41:57,040
Speaker 3: this game where I was like, oh, okay, these guys, Yeah, yeah,

930
00:41:57,120 --> 00:41:59,680
Speaker 3: these were the regular season contributors. That's your sixth man

931
00:41:59,680 --> 00:42:01,160
Speaker 3: of the year in mantras and Lou of course has

932
00:42:01,160 --> 00:42:03,839
Speaker 3: done it millions of times. They just started to look

933
00:42:03,880 --> 00:42:05,680
Speaker 3: a little bit more comfortable to me. I don't know

934
00:42:05,719 --> 00:42:07,799
Speaker 3: if they just getting their legs back a little bit

935
00:42:07,920 --> 00:42:09,719
Speaker 3: because they were so late to this game here down

936
00:42:09,760 --> 00:42:11,320
Speaker 3: there in the bubble, or just have figured out the

937
00:42:11,360 --> 00:42:13,879
Speaker 3: Nuggets spacing a little bit more. But that's huge for them.

938
00:42:13,920 --> 00:42:17,279
Speaker 3: I think they need to be players in a Lakers series. Yeah,

939
00:42:17,320 --> 00:42:21,200
Speaker 3: Kauai thirty eleven nine, four and two, no problem. Paul

940
00:42:21,200 --> 00:42:23,000
Speaker 3: George is gonna be hit or miss offensively, but you

941
00:42:23,000 --> 00:42:25,200
Speaker 3: know he's going to bring it defensively. They need those

942
00:42:25,239 --> 00:42:27,520
Speaker 3: guys to help, you know, in what should be an

943
00:42:27,560 --> 00:42:29,960
Speaker 3: amazing series versus the Lakers. So that's good news I

944
00:42:30,000 --> 00:42:33,080
Speaker 3: think for the Clips. Unless you guys disagree with me,

945
00:42:33,120 --> 00:42:35,479
Speaker 3: and maybe I'm reaching a little bit trying to find

946
00:42:35,520 --> 00:42:37,879
Speaker 3: something from this game, but I don't know. It stuck

947
00:42:37,920 --> 00:42:39,880
Speaker 3: out a little bit after I watched that one this morning.

948
00:42:40,360 --> 00:42:42,479
Speaker 3: I was exhausted last night. Yeah, I did the morning watch.

949
00:42:42,640 --> 00:42:45,160
Speaker 3: So maybe maybe I saw something I did, maybe a

950
00:42:45,200 --> 00:42:47,719
Speaker 3: little crust in my eyes. Didn't have my coffee. Would

951
00:42:47,760 --> 00:42:50,000
Speaker 3: have been nice to have my coffee outside. I should

952
00:42:50,040 --> 00:42:52,160
Speaker 3: have done that on the port. That's where I have.

953
00:42:52,480 --> 00:42:55,040
Speaker 3: I can have my coffee right here. Yeah, basketball games,

954
00:42:56,000 --> 00:42:58,279
Speaker 3: That's what I would say on Mediterranean Life. I think

955
00:42:58,280 --> 00:43:00,319
Speaker 3: that's what the show's called. Oh yeah, I could watch

956
00:43:00,400 --> 00:43:02,760
Speaker 3: a basketball game here in the morning, the full highlights,

957
00:43:02,800 --> 00:43:07,560
Speaker 3: maybe even right here. I would always say that, all right, So, yeah,

958
00:43:07,600 --> 00:43:09,680
Speaker 3: it doesn't look good for the Nuggets, but they got

959
00:43:09,719 --> 00:43:12,279
Speaker 3: back in that game. They were down big, tied it up,

960
00:43:12,320 --> 00:43:13,680
Speaker 3: I guess at one point in the third quarter, and

961
00:43:13,680 --> 00:43:15,479
Speaker 3: then the Clippers just went on a massive run again

962
00:43:15,680 --> 00:43:18,160
Speaker 3: and buried them. So we'll see if they can survive

963
00:43:18,239 --> 00:43:19,960
Speaker 3: another game and make us a game six or will

964
00:43:19,960 --> 00:43:21,919
Speaker 3: it be over and five. We'll find out soon enough. Okay,

965
00:43:21,960 --> 00:43:23,480
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Speaker 3: Yeah NFL Back Tonight is the first game of the season,

1010
00:45:52,480 --> 00:45:55,840
Speaker 3: Texans versus chief Sleep. Who do you Like? Who do

1011
00:45:55,880 --> 00:45:56,120
Speaker 3: you like?

1012
00:45:56,200 --> 00:45:57,440
Speaker 2: Man ah Man?

1013
00:45:57,640 --> 00:45:59,680
Speaker 6: I think the last time I watched a football guy

1014
00:45:59,719 --> 00:46:02,640
Speaker 6: in ran or Cunningham was still the road quarterback for

1015
00:46:02,680 --> 00:46:03,640
Speaker 6: the Philadelphia Eagle.

1016
00:46:03,640 --> 00:46:06,400
Speaker 2: Wow is he still playing?

1017
00:46:06,400 --> 00:46:09,319
Speaker 1: I don't think Patrick of my homes is the new

1018
00:46:09,400 --> 00:46:10,920
Speaker 1: Randall coming out?

1019
00:46:12,040 --> 00:46:12,200
Speaker 5: Is that?

1020
00:46:12,200 --> 00:46:13,360
Speaker 2: What they say is it is he.

1021
00:46:13,400 --> 00:46:19,000
Speaker 1: Throwing barns and running runs exactly what says.

1022
00:46:18,719 --> 00:46:21,040
Speaker 6: My homie Pat Mahons.

1023
00:46:21,600 --> 00:46:23,880
Speaker 2: Yeah.

1024
00:46:24,000 --> 00:46:29,000
Speaker 3: Anyway, games, so you won't you won't be one basketball

1025
00:46:29,040 --> 00:46:29,920
Speaker 3: game once tonight, mate.

1026
00:46:29,800 --> 00:46:31,239
Speaker 2: I know, but that's all I need right now.

1027
00:46:31,280 --> 00:46:34,080
Speaker 6: As last night, I was emotionally drunk after the Raptors game,

1028
00:46:34,080 --> 00:46:36,400
Speaker 6: and like, you try to turn into that next game.

1029
00:46:36,520 --> 00:46:38,719
Speaker 6: And I guess in some ways it's good that it

1030
00:46:38,760 --> 00:46:40,919
Speaker 6: wasn't quite as intense, because it's like to go from

1031
00:46:40,920 --> 00:46:42,839
Speaker 6: one and then straight back into it as tough. Mate,

1032
00:46:42,880 --> 00:46:45,719
Speaker 6: you need to just like, oh, give me a break here,

1033
00:46:45,760 --> 00:46:49,520
Speaker 6: you know, especially especially like when it goes overtime and

1034
00:46:49,560 --> 00:46:51,640
Speaker 6: then double overtime and you're like, oh my god, if

1035
00:46:51,680 --> 00:46:54,560
Speaker 6: they lose this going this far, I'm just it's going

1036
00:46:54,640 --> 00:46:55,400
Speaker 6: to be devastating.

1037
00:46:55,719 --> 00:46:57,719
Speaker 3: Well, and that's the other thing too, right, it makes

1038
00:46:57,719 --> 00:47:00,080
Speaker 3: it more difficult for the second game. It's like they

1039
00:47:00,120 --> 00:47:02,200
Speaker 3: were done the first quarter right by the time we

1040
00:47:02,640 --> 00:47:04,959
Speaker 3: got to it on ESPN, and I was like, okay,

1041
00:47:05,000 --> 00:47:06,080
Speaker 3: what did we even miss here?

1042
00:47:07,000 --> 00:47:07,200
Speaker 5: Yeah?

1043
00:47:07,239 --> 00:47:09,120
Speaker 3: Okay, so you're not going to be watching the Texans

1044
00:47:09,200 --> 00:47:22,200
Speaker 3: Chiefs tonight. Alright, let's get to the updown Report. Yeah,

1045
00:47:22,560 --> 00:47:25,799
Speaker 3: time for the updown Report. Throw some thumbs on some

1046
00:47:25,960 --> 00:47:28,200
Speaker 3: topics here, thumbs up or thumbs down. Ask you to

1047
00:47:28,200 --> 00:47:31,680
Speaker 3: play along in the YouTube chat or on Twitter at

1048
00:47:31,680 --> 00:47:34,480
Speaker 3: No Dunk Sink First One. According to multiple sources, Rockets

1049
00:47:34,480 --> 00:47:38,040
Speaker 3: forward Daniel House Junior's status for the remainder of the

1050
00:47:38,040 --> 00:47:42,400
Speaker 3: Western Conference semifinals is in jeopardy as the NBA probes

1051
00:47:42,480 --> 00:47:47,600
Speaker 3: a potential violation of campus protocol. So House has denied

1052
00:47:47,640 --> 00:47:50,720
Speaker 3: any violation on a matter that has this lead probing

1053
00:47:50,760 --> 00:47:53,880
Speaker 3: his activity within the team hotel. We know that he

1054
00:47:53,920 --> 00:47:57,560
Speaker 3: didn't leave the campus, so you can remove that from

1055
00:47:57,560 --> 00:48:00,719
Speaker 3: the equation here. House was a late scratch for Houston's

1056
00:48:00,719 --> 00:48:03,839
Speaker 3: Game three loss to the Lakers because the Rockets called

1057
00:48:03,840 --> 00:48:07,520
Speaker 3: it personal reasons. Woja's sources say that there's no indication

1058
00:48:07,600 --> 00:48:09,640
Speaker 3: that the league will allow him to play tonight in

1059
00:48:09,680 --> 00:48:12,520
Speaker 3: Game four, obviously a huge game for the Rockets trying

1060
00:48:12,520 --> 00:48:14,480
Speaker 3: to tie this up. He's been great for them. We

1061
00:48:14,520 --> 00:48:16,279
Speaker 3: talked about that after Game three, Like man, they were

1062
00:48:16,280 --> 00:48:19,680
Speaker 3: really missing House. So I know we're like still learning

1063
00:48:19,719 --> 00:48:22,320
Speaker 3: the details of all of this what's going on here, tasks,

1064
00:48:22,400 --> 00:48:24,280
Speaker 3: But are you up or down on just the chances

1065
00:48:24,320 --> 00:48:26,920
Speaker 3: of House playing in this series?

1066
00:48:26,960 --> 00:48:30,440
Speaker 4: Again? Yeah, it's really impossible to say. You don't know

1067
00:48:31,320 --> 00:48:33,880
Speaker 4: why the heck he's being held out of games. We

1068
00:48:33,960 --> 00:48:36,239
Speaker 4: have an idea though, yeah, we do, we do. We'll

1069
00:48:36,239 --> 00:48:37,600
Speaker 4: get to that in a sec. But I'm sort of

1070
00:48:37,719 --> 00:48:41,600
Speaker 4: down on the NBA's handling of this because, as you said,

1071
00:48:41,640 --> 00:48:46,239
Speaker 4: he's first out of game three for personal reasons. He's

1072
00:48:46,280 --> 00:48:49,520
Speaker 4: out for violating a rule. That's why he's out, and

1073
00:48:49,560 --> 00:48:52,720
Speaker 4: so there's a lack of transparency here. It really stinks

1074
00:48:52,719 --> 00:48:56,360
Speaker 4: for Rockets fans because he is a key player to

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Speaker 4: their team. Yeah, but so it has to be reporting,

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00:49:00,800 --> 00:49:05,600
Speaker 4: you know, via ESPN here that he violated something in

1077
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Speaker 4: the league is reporting to be contemplating a ten day violation. Also,

1078
00:49:09,480 --> 00:49:13,479
Speaker 4: Tyson Chandler, their vet, their old man, was also held

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Speaker 4: out for personal reasons, so that's still hasn't been dug

1080
00:49:18,239 --> 00:49:21,520
Speaker 4: up quite yet. So the question is what the heck

1081
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Speaker 4: did he do? And according to Yahoo Sports, he allegedly

1082
00:49:25,719 --> 00:49:34,840
Speaker 4: allowed a female COVID nineteen testing official into his hotel room.

1083
00:49:34,880 --> 00:49:36,920
Speaker 4: So does that break that that breaks the rules? It

1084
00:49:37,120 --> 00:49:41,040
Speaker 4: sure sounds like if that's the case, depending on what

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00:49:41,200 --> 00:49:46,200
Speaker 4: happened there. It just it's a sticky situation there for

1086
00:49:46,280 --> 00:49:50,120
Speaker 4: Daniel House, and I don't think it sure seems like

1087
00:49:50,120 --> 00:49:52,400
Speaker 4: we're not going to see him tonight if the NBA

1088
00:49:52,480 --> 00:49:54,600
Speaker 4: hasn't figured it out and then doesn't you know, we'll

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Speaker 4: designate some sort of quarantine period afterwards, because it sure

1090
00:49:58,880 --> 00:50:02,520
Speaker 4: seems like he was in contact with somebody that he

1091
00:50:02,640 --> 00:50:05,879
Speaker 4: wasn't allowed to. It's an interesting rule because I don't

1092
00:50:05,920 --> 00:50:08,319
Speaker 4: remember seeing anything in the one hundred and twenty two

1093
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Speaker 4: page rule book about coming to contact with somebody who's

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00:50:13,640 --> 00:50:18,239
Speaker 4: working there. So but it sort of makes sense that

1095
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Speaker 4: that's a violation. But did it break a rule? I

1096
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Speaker 4: don't know.

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Speaker 5: I don't know.

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Speaker 3: Well, yeah, so he doesn't play in Game three that

1099
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Speaker 3: would have been Tuesday night. So he's obviously penalized by

1100
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Speaker 3: the league at that point. Right, if they're just going

1101
00:50:31,520 --> 00:50:34,440
Speaker 3: to give them what they gave to Bruno and who

1102
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Speaker 3: was at Rashawn Holmes for breaking violations in this rule book,

1103
00:50:38,280 --> 00:50:41,160
Speaker 3: that was I believe a ten day quarantine period right

1104
00:50:41,400 --> 00:50:46,000
Speaker 3: as the penalty is he getting that, and are then

1105
00:50:46,080 --> 00:50:48,759
Speaker 3: now the Rockets and the NBA Players Association, along with

1106
00:50:48,760 --> 00:50:52,800
Speaker 3: the House of course like challenging that. It's yeah, where

1107
00:50:52,800 --> 00:50:55,280
Speaker 3: does it say in the rule book that can't happen?

1108
00:50:55,320 --> 00:50:58,040
Speaker 3: And is that as severe as like leaving the bubble

1109
00:50:58,120 --> 00:51:00,520
Speaker 3: to get food like home stuff like that? So yeah,

1110
00:51:00,560 --> 00:51:02,400
Speaker 3: we're justn have to wait to find out more information

1111
00:51:02,480 --> 00:51:05,359
Speaker 3: on this. But yeah, I don't know. I guess if

1112
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Speaker 3: I'm putting a thumb on this lead, we'll go to

1113
00:51:07,040 --> 00:51:09,200
Speaker 3: you next. But I guess I'm down on his chances.

1114
00:51:09,239 --> 00:51:11,480
Speaker 3: Maybe if the League, you know, digs their heels in

1115
00:51:11,520 --> 00:51:13,600
Speaker 3: here and says, hey, rules of rules, you're getting the

1116
00:51:13,600 --> 00:51:15,600
Speaker 3: ten D quarantine, So that would mean you obviously wouldn't

1117
00:51:15,600 --> 00:51:16,000
Speaker 3: be planned.

1118
00:51:16,120 --> 00:51:18,040
Speaker 6: Yeah, and I think the League has tried to send

1119
00:51:18,040 --> 00:51:21,280
Speaker 6: that message throughout the bubble like they did with Rashaan Holmes.

1120
00:51:21,400 --> 00:51:24,359
Speaker 6: Is basically like, we can't take any chances right now.

1121
00:51:24,920 --> 00:51:27,239
Speaker 6: So I'm sorry, this is the punishment. That's what it

1122
00:51:27,280 --> 00:51:29,759
Speaker 6: sounds like, because we can kind of speculate as to

1123
00:51:29,840 --> 00:51:33,360
Speaker 6: what went on, but nobody really knows. But the League,

1124
00:51:33,360 --> 00:51:35,480
Speaker 6: I think, is trying to say, listen, if we start

1125
00:51:35,520 --> 00:51:37,920
Speaker 6: easing up on these things, then what's gonna happen. Someone's

1126
00:51:37,960 --> 00:51:41,120
Speaker 6: gonna you know, someone's going to break the protocol and

1127
00:51:41,160 --> 00:51:43,719
Speaker 6: it could cause a great breakout and it could end

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Speaker 6: the season. I guess that's the way the NBA is taking.

1129
00:51:45,680 --> 00:51:48,840
Speaker 6: It's just a zero tolerance policy. So yeah, it's a

1130
00:51:48,840 --> 00:51:50,680
Speaker 6: blow to the Rockets for sure if he can't play.

1131
00:51:52,160 --> 00:51:53,879
Speaker 6: He's been very, very important to them.

1132
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Speaker 3: But they play like seven guys six games.

1133
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Speaker 6: I mean, but I just I guess the NBA is

1134
00:51:58,239 --> 00:52:00,680
Speaker 6: just like, I'm sorry, we're not taking any chances, so

1135
00:52:01,040 --> 00:52:02,800
Speaker 6: I should We'll find out in the next few hours

1136
00:52:03,320 --> 00:52:07,680
Speaker 6: if something happened, but you know, this was something like

1137
00:52:07,719 --> 00:52:09,440
Speaker 6: this was kind of bound to happen. I mean, it's

1138
00:52:09,440 --> 00:52:12,080
Speaker 6: hod when people have been in these restrictions for so long.

1139
00:52:12,120 --> 00:52:14,200
Speaker 6: I mean, it's hot to stay discipline the whole time.

1140
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Speaker 6: So we'll see what happens.

1141
00:52:16,480 --> 00:52:18,279
Speaker 3: Try anything, Dad, Not much.

1142
00:52:18,360 --> 00:52:20,880
Speaker 1: It's a thumbs down, especially if the stories are true

1143
00:52:20,920 --> 00:52:23,640
Speaker 1: that you would jeopardize your team like this, because like

1144
00:52:23,680 --> 00:52:26,120
Speaker 1: you guys are saying, Dan will House is a fairly

1145
00:52:26,160 --> 00:52:28,239
Speaker 1: important piece to the Rockets just because they don't play

1146
00:52:28,239 --> 00:52:30,240
Speaker 1: a whole bunch of guys. He hasn't really been great

1147
00:52:30,440 --> 00:52:32,719
Speaker 1: I don't think in the Lakers series, but at least

1148
00:52:32,760 --> 00:52:35,920
Speaker 1: he is able to play. Usually doesn't look good for

1149
00:52:36,040 --> 00:52:38,640
Speaker 1: him or for the team though, but the league has

1150
00:52:38,719 --> 00:52:41,800
Speaker 1: to has to do something about any sort of a violation.

1151
00:52:41,880 --> 00:52:43,879
Speaker 3: It's been going perfectly, but we still got another month

1152
00:52:43,920 --> 00:52:46,040
Speaker 3: ahead of us. So them's the rules.

1153
00:52:46,120 --> 00:52:46,640
Speaker 4: Unfortunately.

1154
00:52:46,760 --> 00:52:48,680
Speaker 3: Yes, well, I'm sure we'll find out more details and

1155
00:52:48,760 --> 00:52:51,440
Speaker 3: we'll ultimately get the NBA's decision. Whether they're a little

1156
00:52:51,440 --> 00:52:54,239
Speaker 3: more lackadausical with it and say, I don't know, four

1157
00:52:54,320 --> 00:52:56,239
Speaker 3: or five days, who knows, who knows. We'll see, all right,

1158
00:52:56,239 --> 00:52:57,759
Speaker 3: next one here, I feel like we're going to be

1159
00:52:57,800 --> 00:53:00,600
Speaker 3: talking about coaches for the next I don't know, three

1160
00:53:00,600 --> 00:53:03,440
Speaker 3: weeks in every show here. But the latest rumor is

1161
00:53:03,440 --> 00:53:07,160
Speaker 3: that five time All Star Chauncey Billups has emerged as

1162
00:53:07,160 --> 00:53:10,640
Speaker 3: a candidate in the Pacers coaching search. The two parties

1163
00:53:10,680 --> 00:53:13,439
Speaker 3: have recently engaged and are planning to talk further about

1164
00:53:13,440 --> 00:53:17,080
Speaker 3: the job. Like Steve Nash in Brooklyn, Billups has no

1165
00:53:17,239 --> 00:53:21,600
Speaker 3: prior coaching experience, but obviously it was an unbelievable floor general.

1166
00:53:21,640 --> 00:53:23,520
Speaker 3: So Trey will start with you up or down on

1167
00:53:23,680 --> 00:53:28,239
Speaker 3: Indye going possibly with coach Billups. Do you like that? Sure,

1168
00:53:28,360 --> 00:53:28,960
Speaker 3: I'm up on it.

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00:53:29,040 --> 00:53:32,080
Speaker 1: I'm up on Chauncey Billups finally getting that coaching job.

1170
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Speaker 3: I you know, he's a high IQ guy. He played

1171
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Speaker 3: both ends of the court.

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Speaker 1: Point guards seem to be pretty good coaches when they

1173
00:53:38,920 --> 00:53:40,680
Speaker 1: come to the end of their playing career and they

1174
00:53:40,719 --> 00:53:44,920
Speaker 1: go to the sidelines. But does Chauncey Billups really want

1175
00:53:44,920 --> 00:53:46,680
Speaker 1: to be a coach or a GM or is he

1176
00:53:46,880 --> 00:53:50,640
Speaker 1: just like the headlines when it comes out. Because Chauncey

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Speaker 1: Billups has been a candidate for the Calves GM. He's

1178
00:53:52,880 --> 00:53:56,040
Speaker 1: been a candidate as the Calves coach, Houston's GM more

1179
00:53:56,080 --> 00:54:00,120
Speaker 1: than once, Timberwolves GM, Timberwolves coach, Hawks GM Magic Coach.

1180
00:54:00,239 --> 00:54:03,120
Speaker 1: Earlier this summer, ty Lou was considering bringing him in

1181
00:54:03,200 --> 00:54:06,480
Speaker 1: as an assistant coach wherever he ends up coaching. So

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Speaker 1: I don't know if Chauncey Phillips is really going to

1183
00:54:08,560 --> 00:54:10,920
Speaker 1: be taking a job outside of the media. But whenever

1184
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Speaker 1: he does, if he ever decides he really wants to,

1185
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Speaker 1: I think he'll be good at it.

1186
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Speaker 3: M Okay, So he's maybe he just has a great agent.

1187
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Speaker 3: He always out there.

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Speaker 1: His name comes out, it does in a week basically

1189
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Speaker 1: of every single opportunity out there.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, and a one hundred percent agree with you on

1191
00:54:25,719 --> 00:54:27,399
Speaker 3: thumbs up. I'd like to see him be a coach

1192
00:54:27,440 --> 00:54:29,200
Speaker 3: for sure, or GM whatever he wants to do. I

1193
00:54:29,239 --> 00:54:30,759
Speaker 3: think he'd probably be pretty good at both of them.

1194
00:54:30,760 --> 00:54:32,920
Speaker 3: But you're right, his name always comes up. It's sort

1195
00:54:32,960 --> 00:54:35,680
Speaker 3: of Kenny Smithlake a little bit. So I think Kenny

1196
00:54:35,760 --> 00:54:38,120
Speaker 3: is his own agent in that those examples. Oh yeah,

1197
00:54:38,120 --> 00:54:39,719
Speaker 3: I'm my coach there, who knows, But what do you

1198
00:54:39,719 --> 00:54:41,840
Speaker 3: think tasks you up or down on billups? Maybe in

1199
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Speaker 3: indye would that fit work in theory?

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Speaker 4: In theory for sure? As Trey said, point guards seem

1201
00:54:47,880 --> 00:54:51,360
Speaker 4: to have it. The guy was a high IQ basketball player.

1202
00:54:52,160 --> 00:54:56,840
Speaker 4: He also, I think has the temperament to be a coach.

1203
00:54:56,880 --> 00:55:00,640
Speaker 4: You know, he's calm at the same time fiery when needed.

1204
00:55:01,160 --> 00:55:04,120
Speaker 4: It feels a little like Steve Kerr, even like you know,

1205
00:55:04,160 --> 00:55:07,040
Speaker 4: the Steve Nash thing going on, like Jay Kidd, like

1206
00:55:07,080 --> 00:55:11,280
Speaker 4: Derek Fisher before him, which obviously didn't end all that well.

1207
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Speaker 4: Some guys get it and some guys don't. I'm with Trey,

1208
00:55:15,360 --> 00:55:18,520
Speaker 4: though I'm not one hundred percent certain he wants this thing.

1209
00:55:18,800 --> 00:55:21,640
Speaker 4: I just want if he were to get a coaching

1210
00:55:21,680 --> 00:55:25,799
Speaker 4: situation that the introduction would be like it was for

1211
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Speaker 4: when he was in Detroit Chaunceyups the Pacers head coach,

1212
00:55:33,360 --> 00:55:36,319
Speaker 4: which would be really weird. But you know, why the

1213
00:55:36,360 --> 00:55:38,320
Speaker 4: heck not Sam? You know, no here in the comments

1214
00:55:38,360 --> 00:55:41,319
Speaker 4: with that suggestion, very very smart, and yeah he was.

1215
00:55:41,520 --> 00:55:44,600
Speaker 4: He was impressive in the horse competition as Sam. You

1216
00:55:44,640 --> 00:55:50,880
Speaker 4: know every time, every time we watched so much or

1217
00:55:51,120 --> 00:55:53,400
Speaker 4: we did I was just trying to get something out

1218
00:55:53,440 --> 00:55:53,560
Speaker 4: of it.

1219
00:55:53,640 --> 00:55:56,799
Speaker 3: Very dark dark days. There's a lot of names being

1220
00:55:56,800 --> 00:55:59,839
Speaker 3: thrown around for this, for all these obviously coaching candidacies,

1221
00:56:00,000 --> 00:56:02,400
Speaker 3: but the piece are specifically there's a huge list. I

1222
00:56:02,440 --> 00:56:04,640
Speaker 3: know some of the key names that people will be like, Oh,

1223
00:56:04,800 --> 00:56:07,960
Speaker 3: Dave Yeager who obviously coached with the Kings. Becky Hammond's

1224
00:56:08,040 --> 00:56:10,720
Speaker 3: name is in the mix. There's tons of assistant coaches

1225
00:56:11,200 --> 00:56:13,160
Speaker 3: that maybe you know, will get their first crack at

1226
00:56:13,160 --> 00:56:15,200
Speaker 3: being a full time head coach. But what do you

1227
00:56:15,239 --> 00:56:18,160
Speaker 3: think about Billups as the possibility of an h C

1228
00:56:18,400 --> 00:56:19,120
Speaker 3: in this league?

1229
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Speaker 6: Well, two things. As always, it comes down to the

1230
00:56:21,280 --> 00:56:23,040
Speaker 6: talent of the roster that he's going to be coaching.

1231
00:56:23,040 --> 00:56:25,640
Speaker 6: And there's some pretty nice pieces there in Indiana, But

1232
00:56:25,719 --> 00:56:27,279
Speaker 6: of course with a big question is what they do

1233
00:56:27,320 --> 00:56:29,799
Speaker 6: with Victor Oladipot and how good is he because I

1234
00:56:29,800 --> 00:56:31,680
Speaker 6: think as a point guard coach, to go in to

1235
00:56:31,719 --> 00:56:33,000
Speaker 6: have a situation where you've.

1236
00:56:32,840 --> 00:56:34,560
Speaker 2: Got Victor Oladipo out there, it's like.

1237
00:56:35,080 --> 00:56:37,399
Speaker 6: Can those two connect. Phillips was a pretty popular player.

1238
00:56:37,440 --> 00:56:39,080
Speaker 6: He used to get along well with his teammates, so

1239
00:56:39,120 --> 00:56:41,960
Speaker 6: I think that's a good connection to have. But is

1240
00:56:42,000 --> 00:56:43,719
Speaker 6: on the depot part of the future, I'm not sure.

1241
00:56:43,880 --> 00:56:45,759
Speaker 6: So Bonus was an All Star this season, he didn't

1242
00:56:45,800 --> 00:56:48,520
Speaker 6: play in the Bubbler Corse and Myles Turner has talent

1243
00:56:48,600 --> 00:56:52,120
Speaker 6: and potential, so can Chauncey unlock that and get the

1244
00:56:52,160 --> 00:56:54,640
Speaker 6: best out of him? That'll be the ultimate question there

1245
00:56:54,640 --> 00:56:56,479
Speaker 6: for him. So I think it's a matter of time

1246
00:56:56,480 --> 00:56:59,480
Speaker 6: before Chauncey gets a job. It's just which one is

1247
00:56:59,520 --> 00:57:01,359
Speaker 6: the best one for him and which one does say

1248
00:57:01,440 --> 00:57:05,240
Speaker 6: want the most really, because I think if if they're

1249
00:57:05,280 --> 00:57:07,040
Speaker 6: interested in him and he wants to go to Indiana,

1250
00:57:07,040 --> 00:57:08,719
Speaker 6: then I think it's probably going to be a pretty

1251
00:57:08,800 --> 00:57:09,279
Speaker 6: quick deal.

1252
00:57:09,560 --> 00:57:11,640
Speaker 3: And I think was it Woes in that article has

1253
00:57:11,680 --> 00:57:14,080
Speaker 3: pointed out that the Pacers have done this before with

1254
00:57:14,200 --> 00:57:17,480
Speaker 3: former players right that had no coaching experience, but giving

1255
00:57:17,480 --> 00:57:21,320
Speaker 3: them the reins Larry Bird, Isaiah Thomas, and potentially now

1256
00:57:21,520 --> 00:57:23,840
Speaker 3: Chauncey Phelps. There's actually a bit of a pressure with

1257
00:57:23,880 --> 00:57:27,360
Speaker 3: this Indiana coaching spot. I think, like you come in there,

1258
00:57:27,400 --> 00:57:29,280
Speaker 3: like you listed all the guys, like they've got talent,

1259
00:57:29,520 --> 00:57:31,400
Speaker 3: obviously a playoff team, and now it's like trying to

1260
00:57:31,400 --> 00:57:34,120
Speaker 3: get them to the next level, and can somebody do that?

1261
00:57:34,840 --> 00:57:37,280
Speaker 3: You know, there's expectations I think there right. I mean,

1262
00:57:37,320 --> 00:57:40,400
Speaker 3: it's not just get into the playoffs. It's not just

1263
00:57:40,520 --> 00:57:43,680
Speaker 3: develop guys. It's a hey, go win some playoffs series.

1264
00:57:43,680 --> 00:57:45,960
Speaker 3: I think that would probably be the baseline. So, yeah,

1265
00:57:45,960 --> 00:57:47,800
Speaker 3: whoever takes this job is going to have to and

1266
00:57:48,160 --> 00:57:49,880
Speaker 3: we'll have the talent to maybe do that. But it's

1267
00:57:49,880 --> 00:57:52,120
Speaker 3: not going to be easy, I don't think by any means.

1268
00:57:52,160 --> 00:57:54,479
Speaker 3: So let's hear from you guys on that one final one.

1269
00:57:54,720 --> 00:57:57,800
Speaker 3: According to bleacher Report, Doris Burke will call the conference

1270
00:57:57,840 --> 00:58:00,840
Speaker 3: finals and NBA Finals for ESPN Radio. Should be the

1271
00:58:00,880 --> 00:58:03,520
Speaker 3: first woman to serve as a game analyst on a

1272
00:58:03,640 --> 00:58:08,080
Speaker 3: radio or network TV broadcast that far into the playoffs.

1273
00:58:08,080 --> 00:58:10,400
Speaker 3: So she's going to be doing ESPN Radio conference finals

1274
00:58:10,400 --> 00:58:13,800
Speaker 3: and finals upper down. Lee on Doris's achievement here.

1275
00:58:14,200 --> 00:58:16,320
Speaker 6: Down because she should be in the TV booth. She

1276
00:58:16,360 --> 00:58:19,560
Speaker 6: should be the color commentator. I don't not see why

1277
00:58:19,760 --> 00:58:22,280
Speaker 6: ESPN wouldn't do that right now. Credit to Mark Jackson

1278
00:58:22,480 --> 00:58:24,360
Speaker 6: and Jeff fan Gunny for what they've achieved, but it's

1279
00:58:24,360 --> 00:58:26,160
Speaker 6: time to move on from those two guys and get

1280
00:58:26,200 --> 00:58:29,280
Speaker 6: Doris in there. She is the best color commentator in

1281
00:58:29,320 --> 00:58:31,000
Speaker 6: the business, and she should be next to Mike Breen.

1282
00:58:31,360 --> 00:58:34,800
Speaker 6: Espin radio is big, but it's not anywhere near the

1283
00:58:34,840 --> 00:58:38,760
Speaker 6: same platform as being on the TV. So fantastic obviously

1284
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Speaker 6: for Doris. She's a pioneer, she's a trail blaser, but

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00:58:41,880 --> 00:58:43,640
Speaker 6: this is not where she should be. She should be

1286
00:58:43,720 --> 00:58:46,640
Speaker 6: in the booth there next to Mike Breen. And I'm

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00:58:46,680 --> 00:58:50,120
Speaker 6: sort of like, I'm like, ah, it's in some ways

1288
00:58:50,280 --> 00:58:52,440
Speaker 6: to me. Honestly, we're not going to see her at

1289
00:58:52,440 --> 00:58:54,720
Speaker 6: all on the TV, so it's a relegation in that sense.

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Speaker 6: She's not even going to be on the sidelines. That's

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00:58:56,360 --> 00:58:58,560
Speaker 6: going to be Rachel Nichols who's doing that, which is great,

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00:58:58,600 --> 00:59:01,480
Speaker 6: of course. I see Rachel Liigan out there, but I

1293
00:59:01,520 --> 00:59:03,240
Speaker 6: want to hear Doris book in the finals, and I

1294
00:59:03,240 --> 00:59:06,080
Speaker 6: don't listen to ESPN radio, so I'm not going to uh,

1295
00:59:06,120 --> 00:59:07,960
Speaker 6: I'm not going to hear it. So I'm disappointed, to

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Speaker 6: be honest with you.

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Speaker 1: You're not going to simulcast it, mate, You're not going

1298
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Speaker 1: to listen to the radio broadcast like.

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Speaker 3: A true boom. Yeah, listening to the radio broadcast of

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00:59:16,680 --> 00:59:19,440
Speaker 3: this show on TV. That's a classic move right there.

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Speaker 4: I'm with you, Lee.

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Speaker 1: I would love to have her be the color commentator

1303
00:59:24,320 --> 00:59:28,000
Speaker 1: for the NBA Finals as well on TV. You know,

1304
00:59:28,120 --> 00:59:30,520
Speaker 1: she it seems like she's trending every single time she

1305
00:59:30,560 --> 00:59:33,480
Speaker 1: calls a game. Everybody loves her knowledge, and she loves

1306
00:59:33,520 --> 00:59:36,680
Speaker 1: watching basketball and talking about basketball. She really likes the NBA,

1307
00:59:36,760 --> 00:59:39,400
Speaker 1: which doesn't always come true with everybody else that's on

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Speaker 1: the broadcast.

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Speaker 3: That's a great point. What do you think. I assume

1310
00:59:44,040 --> 00:59:45,040
Speaker 3: you feel the same.

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Speaker 4: Way one hundred percent. When I saw the headline, I

1312
00:59:48,120 --> 00:59:51,640
Speaker 4: assumed that she would be on television, So did I.

1313
00:59:51,640 --> 00:59:53,800
Speaker 3: I got excited as well. I was like, oh, yeah,

1314
00:59:53,840 --> 00:59:56,040
Speaker 3: all right, that's that's great. And then you're like, oh,

1315
00:59:56,040 --> 00:59:59,760
Speaker 3: hold on, there's a radio on the end of that. No,

1316
01:00:00,240 --> 01:00:06,640
Speaker 3: the radio fans out there also decent movie. Sure, but yeah,

1317
01:00:06,320 --> 01:00:08,840
Speaker 3: no I wasn't as popped. You're right after you read

1318
01:00:08,840 --> 01:00:09,840
Speaker 3: the phone print there.

1319
01:00:10,280 --> 01:00:12,680
Speaker 2: I mean, remember when she told Steve Javiy to golf on.

1320
01:00:12,840 --> 01:00:18,480
Speaker 3: Yeah, it's gonna be running wild than the finals.

1321
01:00:18,680 --> 01:00:21,040
Speaker 2: But that's exactly That's what we really need.

1322
01:00:21,000 --> 01:00:23,160
Speaker 6: Is like Doris to say, Steve, that is a bush

1323
01:00:23,280 --> 01:00:26,240
Speaker 6: call and you know it because that actually is true.

1324
01:00:26,280 --> 01:00:28,520
Speaker 6: It's not like there's no sort of pcus there, which

1325
01:00:28,520 --> 01:00:31,720
Speaker 6: is what we need. But also Doris, you know, analytically,

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01:00:32,000 --> 01:00:35,640
Speaker 6: she's much better than better Jeff Van Gundy and Mike

1327
01:00:35,680 --> 01:00:37,400
Speaker 6: Mark Jackson, because Jeffan Gundy, you know it, is just

1328
01:00:37,440 --> 01:00:39,800
Speaker 6: going to start complaining, and then Mark Jackson just going

1329
01:00:39,880 --> 01:00:42,440
Speaker 6: to say credit to the credit to the give the

1330
01:00:42,480 --> 01:00:44,720
Speaker 6: man credit. Oh man, it looks like we've got a

1331
01:00:44,720 --> 01:00:45,240
Speaker 6: game here.

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Speaker 2: It's great.

1333
01:00:45,680 --> 01:00:47,840
Speaker 6: It's like, come on, man, bring some energy exactly.

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Speaker 3: I think. I think sorry, Trey knocked it out of

1335
01:00:49,920 --> 01:00:52,880
Speaker 3: the part there with that comment like she loves you

1336
01:00:52,920 --> 01:00:55,919
Speaker 3: can tell it comes across on the broadcast how much

1337
01:00:56,000 --> 01:00:59,680
Speaker 3: she loves this, and that's important. Honestly, it really gets

1338
01:00:59,720 --> 01:01:03,000
Speaker 3: lost sometimes with some of these guys that are curmudgeons

1339
01:01:03,000 --> 01:01:05,320
Speaker 3: on the call. I mean, look, I'm sure they're just

1340
01:01:05,360 --> 01:01:07,200
Speaker 3: as exhausted down there. They've been in the bubble for

1341
01:01:07,240 --> 01:01:11,959
Speaker 3: a long time. But come on, like, I know that's

1342
01:01:11,960 --> 01:01:14,800
Speaker 3: his bit, I get it for sure. I mean, what, okay,

1343
01:01:15,080 --> 01:01:17,880
Speaker 3: why not this would anyone be opposed to? Like, let's

1344
01:01:17,880 --> 01:01:20,280
Speaker 3: say in the finals, why can't it be Doris for

1345
01:01:20,400 --> 01:01:23,280
Speaker 3: game one, van Gundhi for Game two or whatever like

1346
01:01:23,360 --> 01:01:26,600
Speaker 3: Jackson for game three? Do we need the same the

1347
01:01:26,800 --> 01:01:30,920
Speaker 3: crew every game? I get why. It's maybe beneficial at times,

1348
01:01:30,920 --> 01:01:34,160
Speaker 3: but is it Maybe it's more exciting, like oh yeah,

1349
01:01:34,200 --> 01:01:36,160
Speaker 3: this is the Breen game, and you know stuff like that.

1350
01:01:36,840 --> 01:01:39,080
Speaker 3: This is the coaches Just coaches don't want to go

1351
01:01:39,120 --> 01:01:41,360
Speaker 3: away from their rotation in the playoffs, right, sometimes you

1352
01:01:41,400 --> 01:01:43,800
Speaker 3: got to ride the hot mic. Yeah, and she's been

1353
01:01:43,800 --> 01:01:45,800
Speaker 3: on fire. You're right, She's always trying to say something

1354
01:01:45,880 --> 01:01:49,280
Speaker 3: hilarious or something of course insightful, or at least bringing energy.

1355
01:01:49,360 --> 01:01:52,479
Speaker 3: So all right, well, I guess we're look, congratulations, she's

1356
01:01:52,520 --> 01:01:56,400
Speaker 3: making history again. But yeah, ultimately thumbs down on that,

1357
01:01:56,440 --> 01:01:58,840
Speaker 3: because we'd like to see her on the ESPN actual

1358
01:01:58,920 --> 01:01:59,920
Speaker 3: broadcast until.

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01:02:00,000 --> 01:02:03,360
Speaker 4: And I often forget who's doing the finals and who's

1360
01:02:03,400 --> 01:02:06,960
Speaker 4: doing the conference finals. ABC obviously blah blah blah. I

1361
01:02:07,000 --> 01:02:09,040
Speaker 4: assume when I read the headline as well, she was

1362
01:02:09,080 --> 01:02:11,640
Speaker 4: going to get the finals gone as further as far

1363
01:02:11,720 --> 01:02:14,320
Speaker 4: as a quote unquote woman has gone. I thought it

1364
01:02:14,360 --> 01:02:17,840
Speaker 4: would be the finals because she is an incredible commentator.

1365
01:02:18,040 --> 01:02:20,160
Speaker 4: I think you guys are writing the other commentators a

1366
01:02:20,240 --> 01:02:22,480
Speaker 4: little bit hard. I think they add stuff to the game.

1367
01:02:22,520 --> 01:02:26,680
Speaker 4: At the same time, me reading this headline was like

1368
01:02:27,760 --> 01:02:32,960
Speaker 4: my expectation going into watching Radio Skeets real high at

1369
01:02:33,000 --> 01:02:35,800
Speaker 4: the beginning, and then I watched the movie. Yeah, it

1370
01:02:35,920 --> 01:02:36,760
Speaker 4: wasn't that great.

1371
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Speaker 3: I completely lied for the joke. I've never seen rad

1372
01:02:42,240 --> 01:02:43,400
Speaker 3: But you say it's not that great.

1373
01:02:43,920 --> 01:02:46,000
Speaker 4: It's not as Cuba gooding as I thought it was good,

1374
01:02:47,600 --> 01:02:52,120
Speaker 4: that's for sure. But one comment that we received, you've

1375
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Speaker 4: got a new dog, Skeets. Are you gonna call it

1376
01:02:54,920 --> 01:02:55,680
Speaker 4: Doris Bark?

1377
01:02:56,560 --> 01:03:01,160
Speaker 3: I saw that. No, I'm not gonna. We've decided on Luna.

1378
01:03:01,240 --> 01:03:04,040
Speaker 3: It seems to be working well with the dog. Or

1379
01:03:04,120 --> 01:03:06,360
Speaker 3: you know, when I tell people, people go oh, that's

1380
01:03:06,400 --> 01:03:08,880
Speaker 3: not bad, really say, oh, that's very cute name. So Luna.

1381
01:03:08,960 --> 01:03:10,960
Speaker 3: She looks like a Luna. It's working out well. We're

1382
01:03:11,000 --> 01:03:15,640
Speaker 3: going with Luna. So yeah, it was a bit of

1383
01:03:15,680 --> 01:03:20,480
Speaker 3: a rough night. Rough night with Luna last night. She's

1384
01:03:20,480 --> 01:03:22,960
Speaker 3: doing really, really well in the potty training. After one

1385
01:03:23,040 --> 01:03:24,880
Speaker 3: date we've had her twenty four hours a little bit more.

1386
01:03:25,080 --> 01:03:28,560
Speaker 3: She's doing fantastic on the potty training. Great training.

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Speaker 4: You know.

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Speaker 3: Nighttime that didn't go as smoothly, so we'll see how

1389
01:03:33,720 --> 01:03:36,120
Speaker 3: night too goes, but we'll get there. She's a young pup,

1390
01:03:36,240 --> 01:03:39,640
Speaker 3: a lot of energy going great. I don't regret this

1391
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Speaker 3: at all. No, I'm just kidding. I love her, I

1392
01:03:42,360 --> 01:03:44,000
Speaker 3: love her, I love her, love her, love he all right,

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Speaker 3: we got twenty of the night. Still, we'll get you

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Speaker 4: Man, vinegar.

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Speaker 7: Geese a little bit, yeah, sweat?

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Speaker 3: Oh okay, good stuff, good stuff. Let's get to tweet of.

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Speaker 4: The night, tweet the wow.

1427
01:06:16,240 --> 01:06:19,760
Speaker 1: Oh just a little quick taste here for tweeted the night.

1428
01:06:19,800 --> 01:06:22,400
Speaker 1: It comes from Yahoo Sports is William Lou who tweets

1429
01:06:22,400 --> 01:06:25,280
Speaker 1: out a picture along with the caption most intense game

1430
01:06:25,320 --> 01:06:28,400
Speaker 1: of the year, And Kyle Lowry is doing this out

1431
01:06:29,560 --> 01:06:35,680
Speaker 1: sticking his finger inside of Jason Tatum's his armband with

1432
01:06:36,000 --> 01:06:39,360
Speaker 1: zero point seven seconds left in a two overtime game

1433
01:06:39,480 --> 01:06:40,720
Speaker 1: six in the playoffs.

1434
01:06:41,600 --> 01:06:42,640
Speaker 3: How do you think to.

1435
01:06:42,640 --> 01:06:46,520
Speaker 1: Do this period, let alone in a series where you

1436
01:06:46,600 --> 01:06:49,760
Speaker 1: won a game with point five seconds left, something could

1437
01:06:49,840 --> 01:06:53,160
Speaker 1: still happen out there and you're messing with the guy's wristband.

1438
01:06:53,240 --> 01:06:57,160
Speaker 3: Incredible, what a guy. Put him in the Hall of

1439
01:06:57,200 --> 01:06:59,960
Speaker 3: Fame just for that, that finger in the Hall of fame.

1440
01:07:00,560 --> 01:07:02,680
Speaker 3: That's right, that's right. Yeah, that's a great, great tweet

1441
01:07:02,680 --> 01:07:03,000
Speaker 3: of the night.

1442
01:07:03,000 --> 01:07:03,360
Speaker 4: There I was.

1443
01:07:03,400 --> 01:07:04,760
Speaker 3: I was hoping that was going to be in the mixed.

1444
01:07:04,760 --> 01:07:07,800
Speaker 3: Shout out to William Lou. Oh, incredible work he's doing.

1445
01:07:07,840 --> 01:07:11,320
Speaker 3: He's doing like a recap podcast after every Raptors game

1446
01:07:11,840 --> 01:07:14,560
Speaker 3: and I'm doing phenomenal jobs. Go check that out, all right,

1447
01:07:14,600 --> 01:07:19,960
Speaker 3: tasks one game on? Is that right? Just one game tonight?

1448
01:07:20,600 --> 01:07:23,360
Speaker 4: Yeah, our first night of the playoffs here with only

1449
01:07:23,680 --> 01:07:29,120
Speaker 4: one game. Wow, it's the team's dwindle down. Yeah, Lakers

1450
01:07:29,560 --> 01:07:33,720
Speaker 4: Houston two to one. The Lakers lead this series. This

1451
01:07:33,800 --> 01:07:37,040
Speaker 4: is Game four on TNT. It's a seven o'clock Eastern start.

1452
01:07:37,240 --> 01:07:39,680
Speaker 3: Oh hmm, do you think do you believe that? Is

1453
01:07:39,680 --> 01:07:40,800
Speaker 3: that a real seven starter?

1454
01:07:41,000 --> 01:07:41,200
Speaker 2: Is that?

1455
01:07:41,280 --> 01:07:41,400
Speaker 4: Like?

1456
01:07:41,480 --> 01:07:44,520
Speaker 3: Are we getting a thirty minute pregame even or twenty

1457
01:07:44,560 --> 01:07:45,200
Speaker 3: minute pregame?

1458
01:07:45,560 --> 01:07:48,760
Speaker 4: Yeah? It seems like on I know you guys are

1459
01:07:49,040 --> 01:07:52,960
Speaker 4: I've cut the cord you you youngsters. But on my

1460
01:07:53,120 --> 01:07:58,400
Speaker 4: old television ad they pop in a seven o'clock to

1461
01:07:58,520 --> 01:08:01,560
Speaker 4: seven to ten pregame, so I know it ain't starting

1462
01:08:01,600 --> 01:08:04,439
Speaker 4: for at least ten minutes. It's really weird. I got

1463
01:08:04,440 --> 01:08:07,320
Speaker 4: a show for ten minutes and then a new show starts,

1464
01:08:07,360 --> 01:08:10,800
Speaker 4: so I watch the last two minutes of The Closer

1465
01:08:11,080 --> 01:08:14,640
Speaker 4: or whatever at six, but get a quick shot of

1466
01:08:14,680 --> 01:08:17,920
Speaker 4: Bones in and then ten games, a pre game of

1467
01:08:17,960 --> 01:08:22,200
Speaker 4: the guys, and then Lakers Houston, And I know a

1468
01:08:22,200 --> 01:08:26,320
Speaker 4: lot of faith has been has been dwindling from the

1469
01:08:26,479 --> 01:08:29,479
Speaker 4: Rockets perspective, But what do you guys think can they

1470
01:08:29,520 --> 01:08:31,920
Speaker 4: bounce back? And what will it take for them to

1471
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Speaker 4: bounce back?

1472
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Speaker 2: Tray, Well, it.

1473
01:08:35,280 --> 01:08:37,920
Speaker 1: Looks like Bob Covington is playing, so that's good for

1474
01:08:38,720 --> 01:08:41,400
Speaker 1: the Rockets. He's been pretty solid for them in the playoffs.

1475
01:08:41,439 --> 01:08:46,080
Speaker 1: I think no house. Obviously, it seems like I don't know,

1476
01:08:46,200 --> 01:08:48,479
Speaker 1: it just feels to me like the Lakers have this

1477
01:08:48,600 --> 01:08:51,439
Speaker 1: figured out. You know, Lebron has been a great big

1478
01:08:51,479 --> 01:08:54,719
Speaker 1: guy in this series. Anthony Davis has also been pretty solid,

1479
01:08:54,840 --> 01:08:57,600
Speaker 1: and I just don't think that the Rockets are going

1480
01:08:57,640 --> 01:08:59,479
Speaker 1: to be able to get enough stops. But there's always

1481
01:08:59,479 --> 01:09:01,400
Speaker 1: the three point shooting factor. If the Lakers are cold

1482
01:09:01,400 --> 01:09:03,479
Speaker 1: from the outside and the Rockets are hot, that can

1483
01:09:03,520 --> 01:09:05,880
Speaker 1: be a win for Houston. Ultimately, give me la.

1484
01:09:06,120 --> 01:09:09,080
Speaker 3: Okay, wow, Yeah, there's seasons on the line, the Rocket

1485
01:09:09,120 --> 01:09:11,439
Speaker 3: seasons on the line. What's the over under for Rondo

1486
01:09:11,479 --> 01:09:15,439
Speaker 3: points tonight? What are we setting that at? I was

1487
01:09:15,479 --> 01:09:18,400
Speaker 3: gonna say ten and a half? So yeah, okay, man,

1488
01:09:18,920 --> 01:09:21,280
Speaker 3: can he do it again? I don't know, that's honestly.

1489
01:09:21,360 --> 01:09:23,519
Speaker 3: I know I sound like a broken record with this series.

1490
01:09:23,560 --> 01:09:26,360
Speaker 3: But for the Rockets, to win this. Yes, it'd be

1491
01:09:26,439 --> 01:09:28,320
Speaker 3: nice if they hit the three ball. It'd be nice

1492
01:09:28,320 --> 01:09:29,920
Speaker 3: if you get a good Russ game. He's not turning

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01:09:29,920 --> 01:09:32,519
Speaker 3: it over. You know, Harden's getting his. But it's just

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01:09:32,600 --> 01:09:35,519
Speaker 3: take away the other Lakers guys, you know, take away Kuzma,

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01:09:35,560 --> 01:09:38,360
Speaker 3: take away Rondo, take away you know whoever the random

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01:09:38,400 --> 01:09:39,880
Speaker 3: three point shooter is on that night, be it a

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01:09:39,960 --> 01:09:42,599
Speaker 3: Danny Green or a Casey Pierce something. If you let

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01:09:42,640 --> 01:09:44,760
Speaker 3: Ad and Lebron cook, it's just not gonna add up enough.

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01:09:44,800 --> 01:09:47,040
Speaker 3: They're not gonna get there. I'm convinced, So just take

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01:09:47,080 --> 01:09:49,080
Speaker 3: away the other guys, really really focused on doing a

1501
01:09:49,080 --> 01:09:51,000
Speaker 3: good job there, and you might be able to win this.

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01:09:51,120 --> 01:09:53,720
Speaker 3: So it's the Rocket season on the line. If they're

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01:09:53,760 --> 01:09:55,960
Speaker 3: gonna make this series go six or seven, they have

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01:09:56,000 --> 01:09:58,559
Speaker 3: to win tonight in my opinion, and I think they can.

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01:09:58,920 --> 01:10:01,559
Speaker 3: I think they can. I don't think they're gonna go

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01:10:01,600 --> 01:10:04,800
Speaker 3: down without a fight. So I'll go Rockets. I'll go

1507
01:10:04,920 --> 01:10:07,240
Speaker 3: Rockets to make things very very interesting.

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01:10:07,960 --> 01:10:10,240
Speaker 6: What do you think, Lee, I think the Lakers saw

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01:10:10,280 --> 01:10:12,280
Speaker 6: the Clippers go three went up last night, and Lebron

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01:10:12,360 --> 01:10:14,280
Speaker 6: knows that tonight could be the night where they just

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01:10:14,680 --> 01:10:16,720
Speaker 6: put it out of reach for the Rockets too, So

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01:10:16,880 --> 01:10:18,360
Speaker 6: I think Lebron knows fairpoint.

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01:10:19,160 --> 01:10:19,800
Speaker 2: This is the one.

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01:10:19,880 --> 01:10:21,680
Speaker 6: This is let's just take care of business tonight. The

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01:10:21,720 --> 01:10:24,000
Speaker 6: Rockets will play probably a good thirty six minutes because

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01:10:24,000 --> 01:10:25,559
Speaker 6: they've done that a couple of times in this series.

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01:10:25,560 --> 01:10:28,040
Speaker 6: But can they do it for forty eight That's that's

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01:10:28,080 --> 01:10:29,479
Speaker 6: going to be the key for them. And if those

1519
01:10:29,520 --> 01:10:31,760
Speaker 6: threes are raining down, there are a chance. But when

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01:10:31,760 --> 01:10:34,360
Speaker 6: they're not, and if they're not, for the critical part

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01:10:34,720 --> 01:10:36,639
Speaker 6: and the Rockets in trouble. So I think the Lakers

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01:10:36,960 --> 01:10:37,960
Speaker 6: take it tonight.

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01:10:37,840 --> 01:10:38,760
Speaker 3: To ask what do you think? Man?

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01:10:39,479 --> 01:10:41,800
Speaker 4: Yeah, I'm taking the Lakers. It's just such a bad

1525
01:10:41,960 --> 01:10:44,719
Speaker 4: sign that we're here in the second round, and every

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01:10:44,720 --> 01:10:46,960
Speaker 4: time the Rockets play, we get into the second half

1527
01:10:47,000 --> 01:10:51,280
Speaker 4: and the common lingo the narrative is, oh, these guys

1528
01:10:51,280 --> 01:10:55,880
Speaker 4: look tired and looks true and the way they play with,

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01:10:56,120 --> 01:10:57,640
Speaker 4: you know, relying on just a couple of guys, I

1530
01:10:57,680 --> 01:10:59,760
Speaker 4: think it it will be true and they need to

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01:10:59,760 --> 01:11:03,200
Speaker 4: play for forty eight minutes and it's not happening right now,

1532
01:11:03,320 --> 01:11:05,840
Speaker 4: especially with their short rotation, especially with Daniel House out,

1533
01:11:05,840 --> 01:11:08,240
Speaker 4: and I don't know how much of a better game

1534
01:11:08,240 --> 01:11:12,840
Speaker 4: you can get from Russell Westbrook thirty points eight and

1535
01:11:12,960 --> 01:11:16,400
Speaker 4: six in game number three on incredible, shooting hard and

1536
01:11:16,439 --> 01:11:20,759
Speaker 4: played great too. Do not have faith in the Rockets.

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01:11:20,800 --> 01:11:22,880
Speaker 4: I thought this would be a longer series, but it

1538
01:11:23,000 --> 01:11:25,679
Speaker 4: just seems like the Lakers can turn it on and

1539
01:11:26,040 --> 01:11:28,800
Speaker 4: squash it whenever they want, So it's gonna be shorter

1540
01:11:28,840 --> 01:11:29,519
Speaker 4: than I thought it was.

1541
01:11:29,680 --> 01:11:32,519
Speaker 3: In my opinion, we need to see a huge, huge,

1542
01:11:32,680 --> 01:11:34,960
Speaker 3: Eric Gordon type of game I think for the Rockets

1543
01:11:35,000 --> 01:11:36,840
Speaker 3: if they're going to make this tied up at two

1544
01:11:36,880 --> 01:11:38,559
Speaker 3: games a piece. Let's hear from you guys out there.

1545
01:11:39,280 --> 01:11:41,599
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01:11:41,600 --> 01:11:44,559
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1547
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01:12:03,320 --> 01:12:06,439
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1556
01:12:06,479 --> 01:12:09,280
Speaker 3: All right, let's call it there. Fun show clipper bros.

1557
01:12:09,600 --> 01:12:12,160
Speaker 3: You heard it here first, have a great time, turn up.

1558
01:12:12,320 --> 01:12:14,000
Speaker 3: Love you guys awesome.

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01:12:14,240 --> 01:12:16,360
Speaker 4: Thanks for joining us. And remember, every time I tune

1560
01:12:16,360 --> 01:12:19,800
Speaker 4: into TNT before the game starts, I never know what

1561
01:12:19,880 --> 01:12:22,720
Speaker 4: show I'm watching. I don't and the show's end, the

1562
01:12:22,720 --> 01:12:25,320
Speaker 4: show ends, and then the game starts. So somebody in

1563
01:12:25,320 --> 01:12:28,040
Speaker 4: the comment just said bring back Bones, and I thought, oh,

1564
01:12:28,360 --> 01:12:29,439
Speaker 4: did bones go off? You?

1565
01:12:30,520 --> 01:12:31,439
Speaker 3: I thought I've been watching.

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01:12:32,080 --> 01:12:35,439
Speaker 4: Are they're talking about Brent Barry? I'm not sure, man,

1567
01:12:35,840 --> 01:12:37,000
Speaker 4: I probably won't find out.

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01:12:37,520 --> 01:12:40,880
Speaker 3: Embrace the day people, you could stay.

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01:12:42,640 --> 01:12:47,840
Speaker 5: Every day, dang you happy every many.

1570
01:12:50,560 --> 01:12:54,080
Speaker 7: It's been so long with your FUNA way.

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01:12:56,800 --> 01:12:57,360
Speaker 4: Already.

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01:12:58,800 --> 01:13:06,400
Speaker 3: It's kind of a group st