1 00:00:03,000 --> 00:00:09,280 Speaker 1: Welcome to Before Breakfast, a production of iHeartRadio. Good Morning. 2 00:00:10,160 --> 00:00:15,320 Speaker 1: This is Laura, Welcome to the Before Breakfast podcast. Today's 3 00:00:15,360 --> 00:00:18,079 Speaker 1: episode is going to be a longer one part of 4 00:00:18,120 --> 00:00:20,960 Speaker 1: the series where I interview fascinating people about how they 5 00:00:21,000 --> 00:00:24,000 Speaker 1: take their days from great to awesome and any advice 6 00:00:24,040 --> 00:00:25,280 Speaker 1: they have for the rest of us. 7 00:00:25,800 --> 00:00:26,520 Speaker 2: So today, I. 8 00:00:26,480 --> 00:00:29,160 Speaker 1: Am delighted to welcome Erin Port to the show. Erin 9 00:00:29,280 --> 00:00:31,760 Speaker 1: is the author of the brand new book Tiny Tweaks, 10 00:00:31,880 --> 00:00:35,760 Speaker 1: Happy Life. She's also the brains behind the popular Simple 11 00:00:35,800 --> 00:00:39,239 Speaker 1: Purposeful Living platform on social media. So Erin, welcome to 12 00:00:39,280 --> 00:00:39,760 Speaker 1: the show. 13 00:00:40,800 --> 00:00:43,280 Speaker 2: Thanks Laura for having me. I'm delighted to be here 14 00:00:43,280 --> 00:00:44,400 Speaker 2: with you. Great. 15 00:00:44,400 --> 00:00:46,279 Speaker 1: Well, why don't you tell our listeners a little bit 16 00:00:46,280 --> 00:00:47,239 Speaker 1: more about yourself. 17 00:00:48,080 --> 00:00:51,640 Speaker 2: Well, sure, I'm a mom to four biological and adoptive mom. 18 00:00:51,720 --> 00:00:54,360 Speaker 2: We live in central Iowa in a tiny little town. 19 00:00:54,760 --> 00:00:57,680 Speaker 2: I've been married to my husband for nineteen years, former 20 00:00:57,880 --> 00:01:02,360 Speaker 2: educator turned ontorepreneur, and I fill my days trying to 21 00:01:02,360 --> 00:01:04,760 Speaker 2: help people simplify their lives so they can make the 22 00:01:04,760 --> 00:01:05,760 Speaker 2: most of what matters. 23 00:01:06,240 --> 00:01:10,319 Speaker 1: Absolutely So, how did Simple Purposeful Living start? 24 00:01:11,319 --> 00:01:14,319 Speaker 2: That's a great question. Well, I was a first grade teacher, 25 00:01:14,440 --> 00:01:16,840 Speaker 2: decided to stay home and wanted to have a bit 26 00:01:16,880 --> 00:01:19,600 Speaker 2: of a passion project. So I started blogging back in 27 00:01:19,680 --> 00:01:22,280 Speaker 2: the dark days when it was a blog spot in 28 00:01:22,280 --> 00:01:25,160 Speaker 2: two thousand and nine, back when most people wrote about 29 00:01:25,240 --> 00:01:28,880 Speaker 2: recipes and fashion, but I didn't really have that interest, 30 00:01:29,080 --> 00:01:30,679 Speaker 2: and so I kind of thought about my knack. What 31 00:01:30,840 --> 00:01:33,000 Speaker 2: is my knack and everything that I do, I always 32 00:01:33,040 --> 00:01:36,319 Speaker 2: am looking to make it as simple as possible, and now, 33 00:01:36,360 --> 00:01:38,679 Speaker 2: as a mom of four, I'm really looking for that. 34 00:01:39,200 --> 00:01:41,520 Speaker 2: And it was when our son came home via adoption 35 00:01:41,600 --> 00:01:46,160 Speaker 2: in twenty nineteen. He was nonverbal, malnourished, weighing just nineteen 36 00:01:46,200 --> 00:01:49,480 Speaker 2: pounds at twenty five months, and every feeding session took 37 00:01:49,520 --> 00:01:54,000 Speaker 2: an hour, and I realized that I couldn't get a 38 00:01:54,120 --> 00:01:56,920 Speaker 2: life overhaul right. My life felt very full. I'm sure 39 00:01:56,920 --> 00:01:58,840 Speaker 2: many of your listeners feel that way and maybe some 40 00:01:58,960 --> 00:02:02,560 Speaker 2: facet of their life. But I could make a tiny change. 41 00:02:02,600 --> 00:02:04,800 Speaker 2: And that's kind of where tiny Tweaks was born. That 42 00:02:04,840 --> 00:02:08,120 Speaker 2: I couldn't change my circumstances, but I could do tiny 43 00:02:08,160 --> 00:02:12,760 Speaker 2: little things to make my circumstances feel less hard and 44 00:02:13,000 --> 00:02:16,080 Speaker 2: embrace the season. And while my circumstances didn't change, Quincy 45 00:02:16,120 --> 00:02:19,920 Speaker 2: didn't heal overnight. My perspective did, and that helped me 46 00:02:20,120 --> 00:02:22,560 Speaker 2: get through that season. And now that's part of what 47 00:02:22,639 --> 00:02:23,000 Speaker 2: I share. 48 00:02:23,400 --> 00:02:25,320 Speaker 1: Absolutely, Well, why don't you tell us a little bit 49 00:02:25,360 --> 00:02:28,760 Speaker 1: about what the business mix is of simple, purposeful of ving. 50 00:02:28,760 --> 00:02:29,960 Speaker 1: I mean, I know a lot of people are like, well, 51 00:02:29,960 --> 00:02:32,400 Speaker 1: that's exciting to have a blog that becomes a business, 52 00:02:32,400 --> 00:02:35,640 Speaker 1: but what do you actually do as the different components 53 00:02:35,680 --> 00:02:35,880 Speaker 1: of this? 54 00:02:36,600 --> 00:02:38,920 Speaker 2: Sure? Yes, So we have a weekly podcast where I 55 00:02:38,960 --> 00:02:42,040 Speaker 2: share tiny tweaks that simplify life. We also have a 56 00:02:42,040 --> 00:02:44,320 Speaker 2: social media platform where I'm sharing that, and we have 57 00:02:44,360 --> 00:02:46,799 Speaker 2: a full line of paper products that aim to help 58 00:02:46,880 --> 00:02:50,239 Speaker 2: people simplify their life. I'm a planner just like you, Laura, 59 00:02:50,320 --> 00:02:52,800 Speaker 2: So anything I can do to make people think about 60 00:02:52,800 --> 00:02:54,960 Speaker 2: what they're doing with a little bit more intention, and 61 00:02:55,000 --> 00:02:57,960 Speaker 2: we sell those on Amazon and on our website course 62 00:02:58,000 --> 00:03:02,280 Speaker 2: an author as well. Different facets, all aimed with the same. 63 00:03:02,080 --> 00:03:06,320 Speaker 1: Focus, absolutely, And one of those focuses is this idea 64 00:03:06,360 --> 00:03:08,760 Speaker 1: of tweaks. I mean, how would you define a tweak? 65 00:03:09,040 --> 00:03:11,520 Speaker 1: What makes something a tweak in your life? 66 00:03:11,919 --> 00:03:16,560 Speaker 2: Right? It's so simple, so easy that it's almost imperceptible 67 00:03:16,600 --> 00:03:20,359 Speaker 2: at the moment, Right, Like our brain craves big solutions. 68 00:03:20,400 --> 00:03:22,080 Speaker 2: It thinks that if I have a big solution to 69 00:03:22,120 --> 00:03:24,600 Speaker 2: this problem, it's going to take every care of everything. 70 00:03:24,680 --> 00:03:27,800 Speaker 2: And what I've found is the tiniest weak has the 71 00:03:27,840 --> 00:03:30,920 Speaker 2: big impact. Right. So the other day I was in 72 00:03:30,960 --> 00:03:34,119 Speaker 2: my podcasting studio and I was sitting on the floor recording, 73 00:03:34,400 --> 00:03:36,280 Speaker 2: and I thought, what is a tiny tweak I could 74 00:03:36,280 --> 00:03:38,520 Speaker 2: make right now? And I could go out and buy 75 00:03:38,560 --> 00:03:40,920 Speaker 2: a chair, And then somebody said, actually, you could just 76 00:03:41,040 --> 00:03:44,280 Speaker 2: roll your office chair into your office, right, the tiniest 77 00:03:44,360 --> 00:03:47,240 Speaker 2: little change. But then I was more comfortable and I 78 00:03:47,320 --> 00:03:50,400 Speaker 2: could record my podcast. So it's these tiny little things 79 00:03:50,800 --> 00:03:54,280 Speaker 2: and it builds evidence that we can be successful, because 80 00:03:54,320 --> 00:03:56,720 Speaker 2: a lot of times people start to believe they can't 81 00:03:56,720 --> 00:03:59,200 Speaker 2: make a change because they've tried and they've failed, and 82 00:03:59,240 --> 00:04:02,680 Speaker 2: so they're just stuff where tiny tweaks build evidence in 83 00:04:02,680 --> 00:04:06,040 Speaker 2: our mind that we can be successful and the tiny tweak, 84 00:04:06,080 --> 00:04:08,280 Speaker 2: by tiny tweak, we can change our life. And that's 85 00:04:08,320 --> 00:04:10,680 Speaker 2: what I love about it, because the light bulb goes 86 00:04:10,720 --> 00:04:14,120 Speaker 2: off in people's minds and they say, oh, yeah, that 87 00:04:14,200 --> 00:04:16,479 Speaker 2: did work. I'm going to try that again. And then 88 00:04:16,520 --> 00:04:17,919 Speaker 2: I'm going to try it again, and I'm going to 89 00:04:17,920 --> 00:04:20,520 Speaker 2: try it again and we iterate our life to fall 90 00:04:20,560 --> 00:04:22,320 Speaker 2: more back in love with it, which is what I love. 91 00:04:22,680 --> 00:04:25,159 Speaker 1: I am all about falling in love with our lives. 92 00:04:25,360 --> 00:04:27,799 Speaker 1: But let's go back to when you were first starting 93 00:04:27,960 --> 00:04:30,920 Speaker 1: this this business and this blog and simple purposeful living, 94 00:04:30,920 --> 00:04:33,960 Speaker 1: and you said you have a new son at home 95 00:04:34,040 --> 00:04:37,200 Speaker 1: who has complex medical issues. This is obviously a moment 96 00:04:37,240 --> 00:04:39,280 Speaker 1: I know some of my listeners have experienced. This is 97 00:04:39,440 --> 00:04:42,400 Speaker 1: really really tough. I mean, what are tweaks doing in 98 00:04:42,480 --> 00:04:44,520 Speaker 1: that moment? What kind of tweaks were you actually trying 99 00:04:44,600 --> 00:04:46,920 Speaker 1: in that moment to get out of this very sort 100 00:04:46,960 --> 00:04:49,560 Speaker 1: of overwhelmed in a little bit dark place. 101 00:04:50,600 --> 00:04:52,479 Speaker 2: Yeah, so I think one of the first things I'd 102 00:04:52,680 --> 00:04:56,320 Speaker 2: let go of and caring for him was caring for myself. 103 00:04:56,839 --> 00:05:01,720 Speaker 2: And so one day, after particularly harding feeding, I collapsed 104 00:05:01,800 --> 00:05:03,640 Speaker 2: in the dark hallway and I started to cry and 105 00:05:03,720 --> 00:05:06,320 Speaker 2: I just thought, oh my goodness, this is not working. 106 00:05:06,400 --> 00:05:08,479 Speaker 2: What do I need right now? And that was kind 107 00:05:08,480 --> 00:05:11,080 Speaker 2: of the first week I said, like, what do I need? 108 00:05:11,200 --> 00:05:14,680 Speaker 2: And so often I think as caregivers, as a busy mom, 109 00:05:14,960 --> 00:05:19,000 Speaker 2: that we kind of forget what we need. And so 110 00:05:19,120 --> 00:05:21,599 Speaker 2: in that moment, I went downstairs and I brewed myself 111 00:05:21,640 --> 00:05:23,240 Speaker 2: a cup of coffee, and I walked on the back 112 00:05:23,279 --> 00:05:26,000 Speaker 2: deck and I let the sunshine hit my face. And 113 00:05:26,040 --> 00:05:28,360 Speaker 2: we think it's so small that it's not going to help, 114 00:05:28,920 --> 00:05:30,919 Speaker 2: but it gave me a bit of peace and calm 115 00:05:30,920 --> 00:05:33,240 Speaker 2: in that moment. And then I started to pick up 116 00:05:33,279 --> 00:05:35,320 Speaker 2: walking around the block. I'd pack him up in his 117 00:05:35,400 --> 00:05:38,120 Speaker 2: stroller and I'd walk him around the block, getting that 118 00:05:38,200 --> 00:05:41,760 Speaker 2: fresh air, and it just revitalized me, and it started 119 00:05:41,760 --> 00:05:45,159 Speaker 2: to make me realize these tiny little changes could help 120 00:05:45,200 --> 00:05:48,440 Speaker 2: me not only survive my days, but enjoy those moments 121 00:05:48,440 --> 00:05:50,000 Speaker 2: and those those opportunities. 122 00:05:50,279 --> 00:05:52,320 Speaker 1: Yeah, that there can always be little moments we can 123 00:05:52,480 --> 00:05:56,039 Speaker 1: enjoy even if life itself feels overwhelming. Well, we're going 124 00:05:56,080 --> 00:05:57,599 Speaker 1: to take a quick ad break and then we'll be 125 00:05:57,640 --> 00:05:59,960 Speaker 1: back with some more specific tweaks that maybe people can 126 00:06:00,160 --> 00:06:09,719 Speaker 1: try today. Well, I am back. I am talking with 127 00:06:09,800 --> 00:06:12,679 Speaker 1: Aaron Port, who is the author of the book Tiny Tweaks, 128 00:06:12,720 --> 00:06:15,760 Speaker 1: Happy Life. She's also the founder of the business Simple 129 00:06:15,839 --> 00:06:19,200 Speaker 1: Purposeful Living, with a very large following on social media, 130 00:06:19,240 --> 00:06:21,640 Speaker 1: which is amazing that you've built that up over time, Aaron, 131 00:06:21,920 --> 00:06:25,080 Speaker 1: So let's talk about somebody's listening to this and they're like, 132 00:06:25,160 --> 00:06:30,200 Speaker 1: my house is a disaster. What are some tiny tweaks 133 00:06:30,320 --> 00:06:34,680 Speaker 1: we can try to make ourselves feel more like it's organized, 134 00:06:34,920 --> 00:06:37,000 Speaker 1: or that it's livable or anything like that. 135 00:06:37,839 --> 00:06:40,960 Speaker 2: I always tell people there's two types of clutter. Clutter 136 00:06:41,040 --> 00:06:43,799 Speaker 2: that you need and use that just doesn't have a home, 137 00:06:44,279 --> 00:06:46,479 Speaker 2: and clutter that no longer is needed. So I have 138 00:06:46,520 --> 00:06:49,520 Speaker 2: two tweaks. Number one, the clutter that you need. Right So, 139 00:06:50,040 --> 00:06:51,760 Speaker 2: for a long time, my kids would come home from 140 00:06:51,800 --> 00:06:54,359 Speaker 2: school and place their papers on the counter, but we 141 00:06:54,480 --> 00:06:57,280 Speaker 2: had no system or home for that. So those papers 142 00:06:57,320 --> 00:06:59,120 Speaker 2: were just stack up on the counter. And if you've 143 00:06:59,160 --> 00:07:01,600 Speaker 2: ever noticed, this clutter is like a magnet. Once one 144 00:07:01,640 --> 00:07:04,080 Speaker 2: thing's on the counter, then suddenly there's forty five things 145 00:07:04,080 --> 00:07:06,840 Speaker 2: on the counter. So we started this system where we'd 146 00:07:06,920 --> 00:07:10,480 Speaker 2: talk about what they did with these papers, and then 147 00:07:10,600 --> 00:07:13,080 Speaker 2: after that we decide is it going in the recycling 148 00:07:13,080 --> 00:07:15,080 Speaker 2: bin or is it going on the bulletin board. And 149 00:07:15,400 --> 00:07:17,000 Speaker 2: by and large, most of it would go in the 150 00:07:17,000 --> 00:07:19,400 Speaker 2: recycling bin. But it took care of the clutter needs. 151 00:07:19,400 --> 00:07:22,120 Speaker 2: So I always tell people, if you have clutter that 152 00:07:22,440 --> 00:07:24,640 Speaker 2: needs to find a home, because you need it, find 153 00:07:24,680 --> 00:07:27,440 Speaker 2: a home and a simple system to solve that. Now 154 00:07:27,480 --> 00:07:30,200 Speaker 2: with the clutter that you no longer need. What often 155 00:07:30,240 --> 00:07:32,800 Speaker 2: happens as my kids come upstairs, they have a shirt 156 00:07:32,880 --> 00:07:34,760 Speaker 2: that no longer fits and they stick it on the 157 00:07:34,840 --> 00:07:37,720 Speaker 2: kitchen table and there it sits. Or worse yet, I 158 00:07:37,760 --> 00:07:39,800 Speaker 2: think it's dirty, and I put it in the laundry bin, 159 00:07:39,960 --> 00:07:42,880 Speaker 2: repeating the cycle, which is horrible. So I tell people 160 00:07:42,960 --> 00:07:46,120 Speaker 2: this is so simple, but grab a bin, a box, 161 00:07:46,400 --> 00:07:49,040 Speaker 2: something that comes to your door, put it somewhere out 162 00:07:49,080 --> 00:07:50,760 Speaker 2: of sight but not out of mind so you know 163 00:07:50,760 --> 00:07:53,920 Speaker 2: where it is, and then put those items in that bin, 164 00:07:54,040 --> 00:07:55,600 Speaker 2: and then when it gets full, take it to the 165 00:07:55,640 --> 00:07:59,480 Speaker 2: donation center. But it's just giving clutter a place to go. 166 00:08:00,000 --> 00:08:02,000 Speaker 2: I really think is helpful. And the last week I'd 167 00:08:02,040 --> 00:08:05,800 Speaker 2: say is I'm very motivated by timers. Fifteen minutes can 168 00:08:05,800 --> 00:08:08,120 Speaker 2: make a huge difference, and a little bit every day 169 00:08:08,160 --> 00:08:10,560 Speaker 2: adds up over time. So if you're not feeling motivated, 170 00:08:10,880 --> 00:08:14,120 Speaker 2: set a fifteen ten minute timer, turn on some good tunes. 171 00:08:14,840 --> 00:08:17,520 Speaker 2: Man music can make a huge difference, and get to work. 172 00:08:17,640 --> 00:08:19,640 Speaker 2: You'll be surprised how much you can get accomplished. 173 00:08:20,000 --> 00:08:22,080 Speaker 1: Absolutely well, you'll be proud of me. I threw out 174 00:08:22,080 --> 00:08:24,920 Speaker 1: a pair of socks this morning that had a large 175 00:08:25,000 --> 00:08:27,320 Speaker 1: hole in them. I believe those socks had probably gone 176 00:08:27,320 --> 00:08:29,240 Speaker 1: through the wash several times, been put back in the 177 00:08:29,320 --> 00:08:32,040 Speaker 1: drawer where they were then put on and cast off 178 00:08:32,080 --> 00:08:34,440 Speaker 1: because they had a hole in them. So now they 179 00:08:34,440 --> 00:08:38,120 Speaker 1: are gone out of our life. We will not encounter 180 00:08:38,280 --> 00:08:41,679 Speaker 1: those socks again. Well, what are the things I think 181 00:08:41,720 --> 00:08:43,840 Speaker 1: people struggle with when they are in the busy years 182 00:08:43,840 --> 00:08:45,720 Speaker 1: And a lot of my listeners are where they are 183 00:08:46,040 --> 00:08:49,520 Speaker 1: building careers, they're raising families, not feeling like they have 184 00:08:49,640 --> 00:08:53,560 Speaker 1: time for connection with people outside their immediate families. So 185 00:08:53,720 --> 00:08:55,920 Speaker 1: if somebody's feeling that way, what are some tweaks you 186 00:08:55,920 --> 00:08:58,680 Speaker 1: could do in your schedule to make time for people 187 00:08:58,679 --> 00:09:00,520 Speaker 1: who aren't necessarily sharing it with you. 188 00:09:02,360 --> 00:09:05,240 Speaker 2: Every morning, on the way home from dropping my kids off, 189 00:09:05,320 --> 00:09:08,600 Speaker 2: I have about five minutes and I started texting somebody 190 00:09:08,640 --> 00:09:11,520 Speaker 2: in my life whoever comes to mind that morning, Hey, 191 00:09:11,760 --> 00:09:14,959 Speaker 2: I thought of you. And sometimes it results in things, 192 00:09:15,400 --> 00:09:17,280 Speaker 2: but a lot of times it results in a little 193 00:09:17,280 --> 00:09:20,520 Speaker 2: text conversation back and forth. So that's one way I 194 00:09:20,520 --> 00:09:24,040 Speaker 2: would say, just intentionally every day texting somebody that you 195 00:09:24,080 --> 00:09:26,000 Speaker 2: care about. If you have a pocket of time, if 196 00:09:26,000 --> 00:09:29,440 Speaker 2: you're in the car, I love voice texting. 197 00:09:28,480 --> 00:09:31,040 Speaker 1: Say she's not texting by texting with her thumbs here 198 00:09:31,080 --> 00:09:32,160 Speaker 1: while she's driving people. 199 00:09:32,480 --> 00:09:36,040 Speaker 2: Yes, yes, I'm sorry, thank you for clarifying. Yes, voice texting, 200 00:09:36,400 --> 00:09:39,559 Speaker 2: but just I have that five minutes. And oftentimes, as 201 00:09:39,600 --> 00:09:43,559 Speaker 2: busy individuals, when we give our brain space to think, 202 00:09:43,760 --> 00:09:45,840 Speaker 2: things come to mind. And so that's when I'm thinking 203 00:09:45,840 --> 00:09:48,160 Speaker 2: of people. The other thing that I do in my 204 00:09:48,280 --> 00:09:51,160 Speaker 2: schedule that I think you'd be proud of, Laura, it 205 00:09:51,240 --> 00:09:53,720 Speaker 2: might have been inspired by you, is that I schedule 206 00:09:53,800 --> 00:09:57,640 Speaker 2: connection in my week. So every Thursday is my connection day. 207 00:09:58,040 --> 00:10:00,880 Speaker 2: I have to eat lunch anyway, and so I schedule 208 00:10:00,960 --> 00:10:03,360 Speaker 2: a lunch date and it's a different person every week, 209 00:10:03,720 --> 00:10:05,400 Speaker 2: but I just say, hey, do you want to get 210 00:10:05,400 --> 00:10:07,360 Speaker 2: together for lunch? And I plan it out and it's 211 00:10:07,400 --> 00:10:11,040 Speaker 2: about forty five to an hour of time with friends, 212 00:10:11,160 --> 00:10:13,800 Speaker 2: and that works really well in this season of my life. 213 00:10:13,840 --> 00:10:16,000 Speaker 2: And then we also have a couple's group we meet 214 00:10:16,000 --> 00:10:19,560 Speaker 2: with weekly. I find that if it's just in our 215 00:10:19,600 --> 00:10:22,760 Speaker 2: schedule and we're in the habit of it, it makes 216 00:10:22,840 --> 00:10:25,720 Speaker 2: all of the difference. So those would be my three ideas. 217 00:10:26,040 --> 00:10:28,480 Speaker 1: Yeah, anything you can set up that's a recurring sort 218 00:10:28,480 --> 00:10:31,680 Speaker 1: of get together, I think people have too many recurring 219 00:10:31,720 --> 00:10:35,160 Speaker 1: meetings in their professional lives and too few recurring get 220 00:10:35,200 --> 00:10:39,160 Speaker 1: togethers in their personal lives. How about some self care 221 00:10:39,240 --> 00:10:41,880 Speaker 1: tweaks I mean you mentioned earlier, you know, just brewing 222 00:10:41,880 --> 00:10:43,760 Speaker 1: yourself a cup of coffee and sitting on the porch 223 00:10:43,800 --> 00:10:46,880 Speaker 1: and feeling the sunshine. What are some other little tweaks 224 00:10:46,880 --> 00:10:49,000 Speaker 1: we can put in our schedules to take care of ourselves. 225 00:10:50,240 --> 00:10:52,920 Speaker 2: Well, one of my favorite ways to figure this out 226 00:10:53,040 --> 00:10:54,880 Speaker 2: is to write in a gratitude journal. And I tell 227 00:10:54,920 --> 00:10:58,640 Speaker 2: people there's multi facets for doing this, but one of 228 00:10:58,679 --> 00:11:00,400 Speaker 2: the things is when you start to write down in 229 00:11:00,440 --> 00:11:04,319 Speaker 2: your gratitude journal what you're grateful for, it's the breadcrumbs 230 00:11:04,360 --> 00:11:07,480 Speaker 2: of what brings you happiness. And so I always tell people, 231 00:11:07,600 --> 00:11:09,520 Speaker 2: spend a week write down all the things that you're 232 00:11:09,520 --> 00:11:12,199 Speaker 2: grateful for, and you're going to start to see what 233 00:11:12,240 --> 00:11:15,199 Speaker 2: are those things that you enjoy doing that bring you happiness, 234 00:11:15,240 --> 00:11:18,240 Speaker 2: that bring you rest, that recharge you. One of my 235 00:11:18,280 --> 00:11:21,120 Speaker 2: friends was not loving her job and then she took 236 00:11:21,200 --> 00:11:25,679 Speaker 2: up floral bouquet making recently, and she said, it's the 237 00:11:25,760 --> 00:11:29,560 Speaker 2: craziest thing. She said, I started that habit, and now 238 00:11:29,920 --> 00:11:32,480 Speaker 2: going to work isn't such a chore. It's when we 239 00:11:32,559 --> 00:11:35,480 Speaker 2: start to find those little bits of happiness in our days, 240 00:11:35,840 --> 00:11:39,319 Speaker 2: they've become more enjoyable overall. So I love to get 241 00:11:39,320 --> 00:11:42,840 Speaker 2: outside and go on a morning commute walk. It's don't 242 00:11:42,960 --> 00:11:45,200 Speaker 2: I work from home. I don't have a normal commute, 243 00:11:45,440 --> 00:11:48,040 Speaker 2: So I walk twenty minutes in silence every day. It's 244 00:11:48,040 --> 00:11:50,200 Speaker 2: a chance for my brain to noodle around some of 245 00:11:50,240 --> 00:11:52,520 Speaker 2: the things I'm thinking about, get out and get in 246 00:11:52,559 --> 00:11:55,000 Speaker 2: touch with nature, feel the fresh air, the sun on 247 00:11:55,000 --> 00:11:58,359 Speaker 2: my face. So I would say it's never as fancy 248 00:11:58,400 --> 00:12:01,520 Speaker 2: as self care is made out to be online. But 249 00:12:01,640 --> 00:12:05,120 Speaker 2: look in your gratitude journal, pay attention. I always like 250 00:12:05,160 --> 00:12:07,840 Speaker 2: the red car theory, right where you never noticed the 251 00:12:07,840 --> 00:12:09,760 Speaker 2: red cars until you bought a red car, and then 252 00:12:09,760 --> 00:12:12,360 Speaker 2: all of a sudden, everybody owns a red car. Our 253 00:12:12,400 --> 00:12:15,760 Speaker 2: brain is wired to filter out things that aren't deemed important. 254 00:12:16,160 --> 00:12:18,640 Speaker 2: So when we start to focus on and notice the 255 00:12:18,679 --> 00:12:21,240 Speaker 2: things that do bring us joy, that do bring us happiness, 256 00:12:21,240 --> 00:12:24,679 Speaker 2: that do bring us rest and recharge, our awareness is 257 00:12:24,720 --> 00:12:27,760 Speaker 2: our superpower, and then we can do those things more intentionally. 258 00:12:27,880 --> 00:12:30,040 Speaker 2: And it's never like I said, it doesn't have to 259 00:12:30,080 --> 00:12:31,880 Speaker 2: be more than five minutes, but it can make all 260 00:12:31,920 --> 00:12:34,000 Speaker 2: the difference in making our days more enjoyable. 261 00:12:34,440 --> 00:12:36,480 Speaker 1: And you mentioned getting out into nature, and I know 262 00:12:36,600 --> 00:12:38,960 Speaker 1: that is the whole section of your book on nature 263 00:12:39,160 --> 00:12:42,000 Speaker 1: related tweaks to have a little bit more fresh air 264 00:12:42,160 --> 00:12:46,480 Speaker 1: and outdoor life in our lives and schedules. Is there 265 00:12:46,480 --> 00:12:49,240 Speaker 1: anything else we should try other than a brisk walk outside, 266 00:12:49,360 --> 00:12:50,040 Speaker 1: good as that may be. 267 00:12:50,960 --> 00:12:54,400 Speaker 2: Yeah, I think even setting up your office near a window, 268 00:12:54,600 --> 00:12:58,080 Speaker 2: or even putting your backdrop of your computer a beautiful 269 00:12:58,160 --> 00:13:01,400 Speaker 2: nature scene, putting a plant now to your desk, listening 270 00:13:01,480 --> 00:13:03,800 Speaker 2: to nature sounds. I mean, some of these things are 271 00:13:03,800 --> 00:13:06,640 Speaker 2: so simple, but they can make a huge difference. It 272 00:13:06,679 --> 00:13:08,240 Speaker 2: doesn't mean we all have to go to a hike 273 00:13:08,400 --> 00:13:10,960 Speaker 2: or all of those sorts of things, but I think 274 00:13:11,080 --> 00:13:14,080 Speaker 2: just stepping outside, breathing in the fresh air is so 275 00:13:14,320 --> 00:13:15,400 Speaker 2: grounding for us. 276 00:13:16,080 --> 00:13:21,760 Speaker 1: Absolutely. And another angle for those tweaks you mentioned, kind 277 00:13:21,760 --> 00:13:25,120 Speaker 1: of confronting your fears, flexing your fear muscles. And I 278 00:13:25,160 --> 00:13:27,760 Speaker 1: love this idea of having tiny tweaks in our lives 279 00:13:28,040 --> 00:13:31,920 Speaker 1: that allow us to take small risks. I wonder what 280 00:13:31,960 --> 00:13:35,160 Speaker 1: are some tweaks we can do to introduce some small 281 00:13:35,440 --> 00:13:36,760 Speaker 1: risks into our lives. 282 00:13:38,480 --> 00:13:41,680 Speaker 2: Well. For a lot of people. Texting a person like 283 00:13:41,760 --> 00:13:45,160 Speaker 2: I mentioned earlier, feels a little risky, right, connecting with people, 284 00:13:45,240 --> 00:13:48,520 Speaker 2: inviting somebody to lunch. I always tell my kids though, 285 00:13:48,640 --> 00:13:51,000 Speaker 2: that's the philosophy in our house is to flex your 286 00:13:51,040 --> 00:13:53,960 Speaker 2: fear muscle, because, just like any other muscle, the more 287 00:13:54,000 --> 00:13:56,760 Speaker 2: that you take small risks, the more likely you are 288 00:13:56,800 --> 00:13:59,480 Speaker 2: to be brave enough to take the big risks. So 289 00:13:59,600 --> 00:14:02,360 Speaker 2: just think about, you know something scares you a little bit, 290 00:14:02,520 --> 00:14:05,360 Speaker 2: to just step into that, right, Like this interview today 291 00:14:05,480 --> 00:14:08,080 Speaker 2: scared me a little bit, but I'm flexing my fear muscle, right. 292 00:14:08,559 --> 00:14:11,360 Speaker 2: Or maybe you want to write a novel, but the 293 00:14:11,400 --> 00:14:15,280 Speaker 2: first step is to write an Instagram caption thinking about 294 00:14:15,360 --> 00:14:17,200 Speaker 2: little risks that you can take that are going to 295 00:14:17,200 --> 00:14:19,680 Speaker 2: build up your evidence that you can take the risk 296 00:14:19,880 --> 00:14:21,400 Speaker 2: and eventually take the bigger risk. 297 00:14:21,680 --> 00:14:24,400 Speaker 1: Yeah, we can change the stories that we tell about 298 00:14:24,440 --> 00:14:26,640 Speaker 1: ourselves and whether we're the kind of people who can 299 00:14:26,760 --> 00:14:28,880 Speaker 1: take risks. I hope I'm not too scary. I'm trying 300 00:14:28,920 --> 00:14:29,280 Speaker 1: not to be. 301 00:14:30,920 --> 00:14:33,840 Speaker 2: No, No, I love this. It was always different when 302 00:14:33,840 --> 00:14:35,760 Speaker 2: you're on the other side of the on the other 303 00:14:35,840 --> 00:14:37,160 Speaker 2: side of the interview. 304 00:14:36,960 --> 00:14:39,120 Speaker 1: For sure. We're going to take one more quick ad 305 00:14:39,120 --> 00:14:48,800 Speaker 1: break and then I will be back with more from Airinport. Well, 306 00:14:48,840 --> 00:14:51,680 Speaker 1: I am back talking with Aaronport, who is the brains 307 00:14:51,720 --> 00:14:56,200 Speaker 1: behind the popular simple, purposeful living platform on social media. 308 00:14:56,280 --> 00:14:59,320 Speaker 1: You should go follow her Instagram for instance, she'll see 309 00:14:59,320 --> 00:15:02,480 Speaker 1: her talking about her life and her philosophy, all those 310 00:15:02,640 --> 00:15:06,440 Speaker 1: wonderful things. So let's talk about how we can celebrate 311 00:15:06,640 --> 00:15:08,320 Speaker 1: tiny wins in our lives. So let's say some of 312 00:15:08,320 --> 00:15:11,160 Speaker 1: these tweaks have been successful. What should we do to 313 00:15:11,200 --> 00:15:11,800 Speaker 1: acknowledge that? 314 00:15:12,960 --> 00:15:15,560 Speaker 2: I think, even pausing, we are so busy in our 315 00:15:15,640 --> 00:15:18,640 Speaker 2: daily lives that we don't slow down long enough to 316 00:15:18,680 --> 00:15:22,080 Speaker 2: acknowledge the progress that we're making. And when we adopted 317 00:15:22,080 --> 00:15:26,840 Speaker 2: our youngest, his progress was slow, but it forced me 318 00:15:27,200 --> 00:15:31,000 Speaker 2: to be excited for every little milestone. So, like I said, 319 00:15:31,000 --> 00:15:33,320 Speaker 2: he was nonverbal in the beginning, and when we could 320 00:15:33,320 --> 00:15:37,520 Speaker 2: get him to answer yes no questions, that was monumental. 321 00:15:37,680 --> 00:15:41,760 Speaker 2: And he really taught me this lesson of celebrating tiny wins, 322 00:15:41,920 --> 00:15:44,720 Speaker 2: because if we just wait for the big wins, the 323 00:15:44,760 --> 00:15:47,200 Speaker 2: big moments in our life, there aren't that many, right, 324 00:15:47,320 --> 00:15:50,080 Speaker 2: We're just waiting for the marriage and the kids and 325 00:15:50,120 --> 00:15:53,080 Speaker 2: the promotion. Really, if we look back, there's not that many, 326 00:15:53,520 --> 00:15:56,080 Speaker 2: but there is so much to be celebrated. So getting 327 00:15:56,120 --> 00:15:58,480 Speaker 2: outside and going on a walk, you prove to yourself 328 00:15:58,520 --> 00:16:01,440 Speaker 2: that you could you showed up. Celebrate that, be proud 329 00:16:01,440 --> 00:16:04,280 Speaker 2: of yourself. Did you do something that you had a 330 00:16:04,320 --> 00:16:07,600 Speaker 2: goal for and you showed up. Celebrate that, and also 331 00:16:07,720 --> 00:16:10,880 Speaker 2: acknowledging other people's celebrations. I think when we start to 332 00:16:10,960 --> 00:16:15,080 Speaker 2: acknowledge when our kids win, when our friends win, when 333 00:16:15,120 --> 00:16:20,000 Speaker 2: our significant other wins, then they internally get that too, 334 00:16:20,080 --> 00:16:21,880 Speaker 2: and then they can celebrate you as well. But I 335 00:16:21,880 --> 00:16:25,120 Speaker 2: think just really focusing on hey, did I show up today? 336 00:16:25,160 --> 00:16:27,680 Speaker 2: Did I do something that I'm proud of? Getting into 337 00:16:27,720 --> 00:16:30,640 Speaker 2: the habit again of writing in your gratitude journal. Those things, 338 00:16:30,680 --> 00:16:32,520 Speaker 2: the more we find them, the more we're going to 339 00:16:32,560 --> 00:16:34,440 Speaker 2: see them in our daily life. Yeah. 340 00:16:34,480 --> 00:16:37,520 Speaker 1: Well, we've been getting snippets about your daily life as 341 00:16:37,520 --> 00:16:39,680 Speaker 1: you've been sharing some of your tweaks. I wonder if 342 00:16:39,680 --> 00:16:42,160 Speaker 1: you could talk us through what a day tends to 343 00:16:42,200 --> 00:16:44,640 Speaker 1: look like in your household. People always love to hear 344 00:16:44,680 --> 00:16:46,160 Speaker 1: people's routines from this show. 345 00:16:46,840 --> 00:16:49,840 Speaker 2: I do too, So I usually get up at six am. 346 00:16:50,120 --> 00:16:52,960 Speaker 2: That's about thirty minutes before my kids, and they're all 347 00:16:53,000 --> 00:16:56,080 Speaker 2: sleeping through the night. So there's that. I go to 348 00:16:56,120 --> 00:16:57,960 Speaker 2: bed at nine point thirty. So I get up at 349 00:16:58,000 --> 00:17:01,080 Speaker 2: six and I go out myself a cup of coffee, 350 00:17:01,080 --> 00:17:03,840 Speaker 2: and I spend some time in the quiet just I 351 00:17:03,880 --> 00:17:06,679 Speaker 2: love just right now, sitting in front of the fireplace. 352 00:17:06,760 --> 00:17:09,520 Speaker 2: I have a gratitude journal, I do some devotions, I 353 00:17:09,560 --> 00:17:13,040 Speaker 2: do some meditations in prayer, and then from there, my 354 00:17:13,119 --> 00:17:15,639 Speaker 2: kids get up at six thirty and I kind of 355 00:17:15,760 --> 00:17:18,240 Speaker 2: am the coach on the sidelines as they're going through 356 00:17:18,240 --> 00:17:22,240 Speaker 2: their morning routine they have, getting breakfast and getting their lunches, 357 00:17:22,280 --> 00:17:24,720 Speaker 2: getting dressed, and then I take the kids and we 358 00:17:24,760 --> 00:17:27,240 Speaker 2: get out the door for school around seven thirty. I 359 00:17:27,280 --> 00:17:30,159 Speaker 2: come home, I do my morning walking commute, get dressed, 360 00:17:30,200 --> 00:17:33,800 Speaker 2: get ready, and spend the rest of the school day working. 361 00:17:34,040 --> 00:17:36,480 Speaker 2: I always take a lunch break. I think it's really 362 00:17:36,480 --> 00:17:39,959 Speaker 2: important to take that time away from work, eat, be quiet, 363 00:17:39,960 --> 00:17:43,240 Speaker 2: and be intentional. And then the kids get home around 364 00:17:43,240 --> 00:17:45,920 Speaker 2: three o'clock. I do the mom duties of taking them 365 00:17:45,920 --> 00:17:48,719 Speaker 2: to all the places right getting dinner around the table 366 00:17:49,280 --> 00:17:51,960 Speaker 2: that always varies based on when everybody's going to be home. 367 00:17:52,000 --> 00:17:53,960 Speaker 2: I always try to capture the most amount of people 368 00:17:53,960 --> 00:17:56,320 Speaker 2: around the dinner table, so that varies. It's about six 369 00:17:56,400 --> 00:17:59,400 Speaker 2: o'clock and then, like I said, we spend some family time, 370 00:17:59,440 --> 00:18:02,800 Speaker 2: maybe playing games, watching a show. We get the little 371 00:18:02,800 --> 00:18:06,000 Speaker 2: two down to bed around eight to eight thirty, and 372 00:18:06,040 --> 00:18:08,520 Speaker 2: then I go to my room, wash my face, put 373 00:18:08,560 --> 00:18:11,640 Speaker 2: on my pajamas, and I like to read my big two. 374 00:18:11,920 --> 00:18:14,520 Speaker 2: I have two teenagers. They come in and tuck mom 375 00:18:14,560 --> 00:18:16,760 Speaker 2: in at the end of the day, and normally it's 376 00:18:16,840 --> 00:18:18,480 Speaker 2: lights out between nine thirty and ten. 377 00:18:18,560 --> 00:18:21,600 Speaker 1: For me, absolutely well. And I'm curious during the workday. 378 00:18:21,600 --> 00:18:23,560 Speaker 1: I mean, you're sort of like after the morning commute 379 00:18:23,600 --> 00:18:25,840 Speaker 1: to eight ish eight thirty and the until three. How 380 00:18:25,840 --> 00:18:28,960 Speaker 1: do you structure your work days? I imagine with running 381 00:18:28,960 --> 00:18:31,040 Speaker 1: a business, that could be different every single day. 382 00:18:32,000 --> 00:18:34,960 Speaker 2: Yeah, so I have certain tasks for certain days. That's 383 00:18:35,000 --> 00:18:37,639 Speaker 2: worked really well for me. So on Mondays, I do 384 00:18:37,680 --> 00:18:41,520 Speaker 2: a lot of my goal checking, emails, correspondence, prepping for 385 00:18:41,640 --> 00:18:45,560 Speaker 2: my podcast. Tuesday it's all about recording for my podcast. 386 00:18:46,040 --> 00:18:48,679 Speaker 2: Wednesday it's all about the shop so I'm working on 387 00:18:48,760 --> 00:18:52,560 Speaker 2: Amazon Ads, I'm working on Shopify inventory, all of those 388 00:18:52,600 --> 00:18:56,960 Speaker 2: sorts of things. Thursdays are all about social media planning, 389 00:18:57,040 --> 00:19:00,679 Speaker 2: writing my captions, preparing for next week, and then I, 390 00:19:00,840 --> 00:19:03,159 Speaker 2: like you, like to plan for my next week with 391 00:19:03,200 --> 00:19:04,800 Speaker 2: my to do list, so I can go into the 392 00:19:04,840 --> 00:19:08,960 Speaker 2: weekend knowing what's ahead. But having kind of a set 393 00:19:09,080 --> 00:19:12,880 Speaker 2: thing on each day really helps me. Now, next week 394 00:19:12,920 --> 00:19:15,800 Speaker 2: we're leaving for a vacation, so what I normally do 395 00:19:15,880 --> 00:19:18,199 Speaker 2: on Friday, I spread out on the other day so 396 00:19:18,240 --> 00:19:21,159 Speaker 2: I'm flexible. But knowing that each task is going to 397 00:19:21,160 --> 00:19:23,600 Speaker 2: be taken care of on a specific day frees up 398 00:19:23,600 --> 00:19:25,879 Speaker 2: a lot of that mind clutter that otherwise I'd be 399 00:19:25,920 --> 00:19:28,000 Speaker 2: thinking when should I do that this week? Or when 400 00:19:28,040 --> 00:19:30,240 Speaker 2: should I do this? Just knowing, and I have a 401 00:19:30,240 --> 00:19:33,560 Speaker 2: little word doc on my desktop that has those tasks, 402 00:19:33,600 --> 00:19:35,439 Speaker 2: so they just open it up when I'm planning for 403 00:19:35,480 --> 00:19:37,560 Speaker 2: the next week and I can plug those items in. 404 00:19:38,000 --> 00:19:40,119 Speaker 1: Okay, got it, got it. So we have like some 405 00:19:40,160 --> 00:19:43,479 Speaker 1: people do something like marketing Monday or you know, that 406 00:19:43,560 --> 00:19:46,840 Speaker 1: kind of thing, and that helps you structure your business. 407 00:19:47,200 --> 00:19:50,800 Speaker 1: So I always ask my guests erin, what's something you've 408 00:19:50,840 --> 00:19:53,320 Speaker 1: done recently to take a day from great to awesome. 409 00:19:53,359 --> 00:19:55,359 Speaker 1: Now we've been sharing lots of little tweaks over the 410 00:19:55,359 --> 00:19:58,320 Speaker 1: course of this episode of things that you probably do 411 00:19:58,359 --> 00:20:00,680 Speaker 1: that make your days more awesome, but what's What's something 412 00:20:00,680 --> 00:20:02,280 Speaker 1: maybe you've done in the last day or two that 413 00:20:02,359 --> 00:20:04,800 Speaker 1: really really made life feel a lot better for you. 414 00:20:06,520 --> 00:20:08,879 Speaker 2: I love going to the library and picking up a 415 00:20:08,920 --> 00:20:12,080 Speaker 2: great stack of books because one of my favorite rituals 416 00:20:12,160 --> 00:20:14,600 Speaker 2: is reading at the end of the day. I started 417 00:20:14,960 --> 00:20:17,240 Speaker 2: a couple of years ago putting my phone to bed 418 00:20:17,280 --> 00:20:19,280 Speaker 2: with my little too. Like I just put it to bed. 419 00:20:19,320 --> 00:20:21,480 Speaker 2: I try to keep it out of my hands, actually 420 00:20:22,200 --> 00:20:25,520 Speaker 2: in my bathroom from the time we're cooking dinner till 421 00:20:25,520 --> 00:20:28,639 Speaker 2: the kids go to bed. And then because it's in 422 00:20:28,680 --> 00:20:31,720 Speaker 2: my bathroom, I don't scroll at night and I read instead. 423 00:20:31,800 --> 00:20:34,359 Speaker 2: And so I just find a tremendous joy going and 424 00:20:34,400 --> 00:20:38,320 Speaker 2: picking up library books looking around. There's just I don't know, 425 00:20:38,359 --> 00:20:40,320 Speaker 2: maybe it's the author in me, but just having a 426 00:20:40,359 --> 00:20:43,440 Speaker 2: real live book and then reading before bed right now 427 00:20:43,440 --> 00:20:45,840 Speaker 2: with a hot cup of tea, it just makes my 428 00:20:45,920 --> 00:20:47,080 Speaker 2: whole day awesome. 429 00:20:47,760 --> 00:20:51,199 Speaker 1: The library is an amazing resource, and even if you 430 00:20:51,240 --> 00:20:53,400 Speaker 1: don't read all the books that you pick up from them, 431 00:20:53,400 --> 00:20:55,040 Speaker 1: you know now you know for the future that that 432 00:20:55,119 --> 00:20:58,240 Speaker 1: might be a book you want to check out again. So, Aaron, 433 00:20:58,280 --> 00:21:00,000 Speaker 1: what are you looking forward to right now? 434 00:21:02,600 --> 00:21:05,479 Speaker 2: You know something that I've really been redefining is what 435 00:21:05,520 --> 00:21:07,960 Speaker 2: does success look like for you? For many years, I 436 00:21:08,000 --> 00:21:11,679 Speaker 2: never defined it for myself, and so I let the 437 00:21:11,680 --> 00:21:14,400 Speaker 2: world define success for me. And I think something I'm 438 00:21:14,440 --> 00:21:18,240 Speaker 2: just really excited about now is being in this season 439 00:21:18,280 --> 00:21:21,359 Speaker 2: with my kids. I've got a sixteen, fourteen, ten, and 440 00:21:21,440 --> 00:21:23,800 Speaker 2: eight year old and a job that allows me the 441 00:21:23,840 --> 00:21:27,280 Speaker 2: flexibility to do what I love to help people, but 442 00:21:27,400 --> 00:21:30,480 Speaker 2: also be there for my family and my kids, and 443 00:21:30,520 --> 00:21:33,040 Speaker 2: so I'm really just excited about leaning into this season 444 00:21:33,240 --> 00:21:36,840 Speaker 2: sharing about tiny tweaks, happy life, but also being present 445 00:21:36,880 --> 00:21:38,840 Speaker 2: for my family. And I feel like in my forties, 446 00:21:38,840 --> 00:21:41,000 Speaker 2: I'm finally starting to figure out how to do that well. 447 00:21:42,000 --> 00:21:44,600 Speaker 1: So when we come into our own for sure, So erin. 448 00:21:44,600 --> 00:21:45,720 Speaker 1: Where can people find you? 449 00:21:46,640 --> 00:21:49,800 Speaker 2: Yes, you can find me at Simple Purposeful Living. I'm 450 00:21:49,840 --> 00:21:53,560 Speaker 2: mostly on Instagram, but then Facebook, TikTok and YouTube as well. 451 00:21:53,680 --> 00:21:57,000 Speaker 2: We have a weekly podcast, Simple Purposeful Living Podcast, and 452 00:21:57,040 --> 00:21:59,960 Speaker 2: our website is also Simple Purposeful Living. You can find 453 00:22:00,040 --> 00:22:02,480 Speaker 2: and all of our products by searching that on Amazon 454 00:22:02,680 --> 00:22:05,640 Speaker 2: or at shop dot simplepurposeful living dot com. 455 00:22:05,680 --> 00:22:08,680 Speaker 1: Awesome, Well, Aaron, thank you so much for joining us. 456 00:22:08,720 --> 00:22:11,760 Speaker 1: Thank you to everyone for listening. If you have feedback 457 00:22:11,800 --> 00:22:14,600 Speaker 1: on this or any other episode. You can always reach 458 00:22:14,680 --> 00:22:18,840 Speaker 1: me at Laura at Laura vandercam dot com. In the meantime, 459 00:22:19,240 --> 00:22:22,600 Speaker 1: this is Laura. 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