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Speaker 1: Welcome to the Giants Huttle Podcast. It's our first ever

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Speaker 1: NFC East Division round table. Will be joined by a

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Speaker 1: to the first ever NFC East round Table for the

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Speaker 1: NFL Draft. I am John Schmut from the New York Giants.

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Speaker 1: We have a representative from each of the four teams

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Speaker 1: in the NFC East. We have Julie Donaldson from the

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Speaker 1: Washington Football Team, the division winners. We have Friend Duffy

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Speaker 1: Welcome everybody, This should be a lot of fun. Julie,

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Speaker 1: you get first DIBs as your division champion. I will

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Speaker 1: note we have not had to repeat the Vision champion

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Speaker 1: in seventeen years in the NFC East. And the other

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Speaker 1: funny thing, folks, is that each one of these franchises

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Speaker 1: the last two years and a new quarterback in the

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Speaker 1: last two years except for Dave Helman, though Prescott didn't

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Speaker 1: miss what eleven games last year, Dave, So I'll just

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Speaker 1: Stroy into the mix anyway just in case. Yeah, that

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Speaker 1: seems fair based on you know, it was kind of

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Speaker 1: always good. So Julie, I guess let's start with you.

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Speaker 1: the main focus is down there? Well, I thin you're

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Speaker 1: gonna say the main focus he means we're gonna go

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Speaker 1: because I think that's what's going to require. Right We're

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Speaker 1: And there's a lot of rumors out there. I teend

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Speaker 1: to think they are just rumors. Um. You know, look,

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Speaker 1: seventeen season. He's not the long term answer by any

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Speaker 1: thought it would be. But this is a team that

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Speaker 1: does want to go defense first. By all means. Yes,

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Speaker 1: how about the Eagles friends, Yeah, I think that that's

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Speaker 1: gonna be the big question. You know, with all three

432
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Speaker 1: of your teams, we've been able to see the one

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Speaker 1: year samples here in twenty even though it was an

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Speaker 1: abridged year due to COVID nineteen. I think when we

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Speaker 1: look at Nick Sirianni running the offense for really the

436
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Speaker 1: first time of his career, We're gonna see Jonathan Ganning

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Speaker 1: a defensive coordinator for the first time in his career.

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Speaker 1: We don't really know what it's gonna look like. Obviously,

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00:19:40,840 --> 00:19:43,119
Speaker 1: these guys are gonna pull from all of their experiences,

440
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Speaker 1: whether they were in Indianapolis or previous stops along the way. So, uh,

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Speaker 1: you know, it's been a lot of projection. We haven't

442
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Speaker 1: had a lot of It's kind of like what Dave

443
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Speaker 1: was saying, were having a lot of had a ton

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Speaker 1: of access with the new coaches, so you get a

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Speaker 1: sense of, you know, kind of reading through the lines

446
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Speaker 1: of what is it that they want to do? Um,

447
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Speaker 1: but we don't know yet, And I think that that's

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00:20:00,200 --> 00:20:02,800
Speaker 1: gonna be uh an advantage I guess for this staff

449
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Speaker 1: going into this part of the draft is just trying

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Speaker 1: to understand, all right, this is well what their first

451
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Speaker 1: crack at, really trying to build on building blocks that

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Speaker 1: that they can acquire here from this rooky class. You know,

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Speaker 1: a friend, I think you're here for us real quick?

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Speaker 1: Is that you know, look, last season it was wrong

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Speaker 1: Riverta making all the cops now Nomber two for all

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Speaker 1: that was easy, but the rest of it it was

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Speaker 1: all coach Riverta. We didn't have a general manager. And

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Speaker 1: now on top of that, you go and you get

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Speaker 1: a general manage with Martin Many, you're getting exactly to

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Speaker 1: be a football player personnel, and Marty Hernie you have,

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Speaker 1: I think we added up. You have like a hundred

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Speaker 1: think it's interesting, right, new coaching staff, but the guy

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Speaker 1: that brought in the playmakers that you've dedicated a fair

484
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Speaker 1: amount of resources to the last couple of drafts, right,

485
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Speaker 1: they have a lot of young playmakers on the roster,

486
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Speaker 1: same general manager, different coaches. Is that a position you

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Speaker 1: think they're gonna go back to to try to add

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Speaker 1: another high quality playmaker to you know, Jalen reagor high

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Speaker 1: tower guys like that, or do you think they might

490
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Speaker 1: be focusing elsewhere now? I think that that's the Again,

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Speaker 1: going back to what I said earlier, the beauty of

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Speaker 1: them getting to where they did at twelve, I think

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Speaker 1: if they had stayed at six, it was really like

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Speaker 1: a two or three man conversation. At that point. When

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Speaker 1: you're looking at around one of the draft, you know

496
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Speaker 1: you're looking at Jamar Chase and Kyle Pitts, and you

497
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Speaker 1: know Jalen Wilde, Davante Smith. You're talking about those playmakers. Now,

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Speaker 1: if one of those guys falls, that's great. If one

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Speaker 1: of the corners falls, that's great. Uh, if one of

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Speaker 1: the offensive lineman, if they want to guy go to

501
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Speaker 1: a different position defensive a linebacker, all those options are

502
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Speaker 1: on the table. I think that with eleven picks, it

503
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Speaker 1: would shock me if they didn't address a bunch of

504
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Speaker 1: these positions. But I think the beautiful part of it

505
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Speaker 1: is too. They took three receivers a year ago. You know,

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Speaker 1: they took Jalen Reagor. Uh. They were able to pick

507
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Speaker 1: John high Tower, Ques Watkins on day three. All of

508
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Speaker 1: those guys got to see significant refs due to injury

509
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Speaker 1: here in twenty They also got another guy off the

510
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Speaker 1: waiver wire back in the summer and Travis Folgum who

511
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Speaker 1: had some outstanding moments through the year as well. So

512
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Speaker 1: you have saw a lot of young receivers come in.

513
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Speaker 1: They were able to keep the receivers coach Aaron moorehead.

514
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Speaker 1: He stays in, so you have some continuity in that room.

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Speaker 1: So I'll be interesting to see if they just side

516
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Speaker 1: that they want to go down that path. I don't

517
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Speaker 1: know that it's a necessity though, and I my guest

518
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Speaker 1: is that they would feel that way as well. We

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Speaker 1: haven't talked good day. I'm sorry, Oh no, you're totally

520
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Speaker 1: if I just, you know, cowboy fans hey when I

521
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Speaker 1: say stuff like this, But I just I think the

522
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Speaker 1: world of what Philly did with that trade. Because maybe

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Speaker 1: I'm wrong, and I'll eat crow if I am. I

524
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Speaker 1: don't think that roster's as bad as the record suggests

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Speaker 1: that it was. And so you talk about you know,

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Speaker 1: they're gonna be at twelve where you know, maybe a

527
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Speaker 1: Jamaar Chase still somehow falls in your lap, or even

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Speaker 1: if he doesn't, you'll have your pick probably between the

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Speaker 1: second best corner in the draft or maybe the second

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Speaker 1: or third best receiver in the draft. And oh, by

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Speaker 1: the way, now you have resources that you can use

532
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Speaker 1: to address your quarterback position in the future if you

533
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Speaker 1: need to um or just or just stock up. I mean,

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Speaker 1: if Jalen Hurts is the guy, you can stock up

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Speaker 1: next year with all those picks. Like, I just think

536
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Speaker 1: that was a fantastic decision on their part to say,

537
00:23:53,920 --> 00:23:56,480
Speaker 1: we're probably better than we look last year, but we

538
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Speaker 1: can still build toward the future without having to give

539
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Speaker 1: up a great draft it. Yeah, I mean, I think

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Speaker 1: the funny thing if you look at the experts from

541
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Speaker 1: last year, right, they would have predicted the order of

542
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Speaker 1: standing the exact opposite of what they ended up. Goodness,

543
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Speaker 1: it was over, So nobody is an idea what's gonna happen. Really,

544
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Speaker 1: we've talked about the wide receiver that think is interesting.

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Speaker 1: I'll throw this out to the group other than the

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Speaker 1: top three, which I think is the easy part of

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Speaker 1: this conversation. Who in that next group the other wide

548
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Speaker 1: receivers in this draft? Do you guys like, who's your

549
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Speaker 1: I'll steal a draft show term from from Dave here,

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Speaker 1: who's everyone's pet cat and wide receiver outside the top three? Yeah,

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Speaker 1: I mean the guy that I think would would be

552
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Speaker 1: additioned here like we did go get Curtis Samuel, So

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Speaker 1: it takes some of that pressure off having to target

554
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Speaker 1: this again. I think the plan going is to take

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Speaker 1: the best player available because we do have quite a

556
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Speaker 1: few needs across the board, and we have the luxury

557
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Speaker 1: because of what we did again in free agency for

558
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Speaker 1: that but Diane Dianne Brown on North Carolina, you know,

559
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Speaker 1: this is a guy that has probably some room to grow,

560
00:24:55,440 --> 00:24:58,159
Speaker 1: some potential that he's a big playmaker. He's got that

561
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Speaker 1: speed to get the opposite Arry mclauren. Curtis Samuel has

562
00:25:01,440 --> 00:25:03,440
Speaker 1: it as well. But I think Curtis Samuel can you know,

563
00:25:03,480 --> 00:25:05,120
Speaker 1: has also lived a lot in the slot. While you're

564
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Speaker 1: asking more of him, you can move him around a

565
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Speaker 1: little bit. I do think that they want some of

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Speaker 1: the you know, really just go fast, go far, like

567
00:25:11,960 --> 00:25:13,480
Speaker 1: that's all I'm gonna ask of you, will grow you

568
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Speaker 1: into other roles. Maybe Elijah More out of Mississippi, another

569
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Speaker 1: guy that has the ability to kind of have different

570
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Speaker 1: gears and and really just kind of get away from

571
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Speaker 1: those defenders. I think that if we do go receiver

572
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Speaker 1: is the kind of guy that we are going to

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Speaker 1: be looking for. You know, I'll throw I'll throw Julie

574
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Speaker 1: another uf nod because one guy I absolutely love Kadarius Tony.

575
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Speaker 1: Maybe maybe it's the uniform, but he reminds me a

576
00:25:39,200 --> 00:25:41,879
Speaker 1: lot of Percy Harvin in the sense that if you

577
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Speaker 1: put the ball in his hands, he's going like he's gone,

578
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Speaker 1: and that's that's terrifying. It's actually it's devastating for me

579
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Speaker 1: covering the Cowboys. I love watching receivers. Talking about receivers,

580
00:25:53,440 --> 00:25:55,840
Speaker 1: there's so many good ones in this draft, and the

581
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Speaker 1: Cowboys don't really need one, which is a massive bummer.

582
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Speaker 1: Another guy that absolutely enamored with his Oklahoma State's Tayland Wallace. Uh.

583
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Speaker 1: There's nothing super crazy about his game, Like, he's not

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00:26:06,720 --> 00:26:09,600
Speaker 1: super fast, he's not super tall, but he just goes

585
00:26:09,720 --> 00:26:11,560
Speaker 1: up and gets the ball. He honestly, he reminds me

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Speaker 1: a lot of Michael Gallup, who's obviously already here on

587
00:26:14,160 --> 00:26:17,280
Speaker 1: the roster um, and that that'll be interesting for the Cowboys.

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00:26:17,280 --> 00:26:19,200
Speaker 1: It's it's not something they're gonna do in the first round,

589
00:26:19,359 --> 00:26:22,359
Speaker 1: probably not the second round either, But Michael Gallup is

590
00:26:22,480 --> 00:26:24,960
Speaker 1: entering a contract year. You probably want to keep a

591
00:26:25,000 --> 00:26:27,840
Speaker 1: strength strong. Uh. You know, Ceedee Lamb and Mary Cooper

592
00:26:27,840 --> 00:26:30,240
Speaker 1: are great, but if you lose Gallup the free agency

593
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Speaker 1: next year, wouldn't hurt to have another guy waiting in

594
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Speaker 1: the wings. So you know, like John mentioned, with ten picks,

595
00:26:35,720 --> 00:26:37,520
Speaker 1: I would hope that they find a way to spend

596
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Speaker 1: at least one of them on a guy down the line.

597
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Speaker 1: So friend, day just mentioned managed to complain about having

598
00:26:42,080 --> 00:26:46,719
Speaker 1: ceedee lamb may Michael gall pretty impressive, not that I mean.

599
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Speaker 1: And I'm also equally impressed that he found a way

600
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Speaker 1: to not mention the Kyle Pitts could fall in number ten,

601
00:26:51,119 --> 00:26:53,600
Speaker 1: like that one wasn't squeezed in. If that, If that happens,

602
00:26:53,640 --> 00:26:58,320
Speaker 1: all bets are off. Okay to me, I mean that happens,

603
00:26:58,359 --> 00:27:00,399
Speaker 1: it kind of works to all of our advantage because

604
00:27:00,520 --> 00:27:04,680
Speaker 1: their defense couldn't stop any of us. You're not wrong,

605
00:27:04,880 --> 00:27:07,480
Speaker 1: but you want to go, Hey, that's you know, whenever

606
00:27:07,560 --> 00:27:09,920
Speaker 1: I bring up Kyle Pitts, fans say, well, we're gonna

607
00:27:09,960 --> 00:27:11,800
Speaker 1: have to score forty a game to win, and I'm like,

608
00:27:11,920 --> 00:27:16,120
Speaker 1: that's fine with Kyle Pitts. They'll score fifty. Let's go. Well,

609
00:27:17,680 --> 00:27:19,920
Speaker 1: of course I have to. You know, Pitts wasn't out there.

610
00:27:19,920 --> 00:27:21,920
Speaker 1: You gave it to number one. You know he was off.

611
00:27:22,680 --> 00:27:24,920
Speaker 1: But you know he's a little smaller of a guy

612
00:27:25,000 --> 00:27:28,359
Speaker 1: too as well. Um, But you know, look, I wouldn't

613
00:27:28,440 --> 00:27:30,640
Speaker 1: argue with teaking here at all. I think you would

614
00:27:30,640 --> 00:27:33,080
Speaker 1: be a great guy, I think. And it speaks to

615
00:27:33,119 --> 00:27:35,440
Speaker 1: this receiver class that you've brought up so many names

616
00:27:35,480 --> 00:27:40,120
Speaker 1: I mean Darius Tony and Elijah Moore, Diammie Brown, Thailand Wallace,

617
00:27:40,640 --> 00:27:42,600
Speaker 1: all four of those guys are outstanding. You're throwing a

618
00:27:42,640 --> 00:27:45,560
Speaker 1: guy like a Rashad Bateman from Minnesota who's different than

619
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Speaker 1: some of those guys, and that he's a pure technician,

620
00:27:48,119 --> 00:27:51,160
Speaker 1: can get off press coverage, he can create separation. Went

621
00:27:51,280 --> 00:27:53,760
Speaker 1: back this past year after initially opting out, the big

622
00:27:53,840 --> 00:27:56,080
Speaker 1: tent announces they're gonna play. So he gets back in

623
00:27:56,160 --> 00:27:58,720
Speaker 1: there and um, you know, he fought through COVID nineteen

624
00:27:58,760 --> 00:28:01,359
Speaker 1: reportedly over the summer, was able to bounce back and

625
00:28:01,520 --> 00:28:03,840
Speaker 1: even have the love of production he did I thought

626
00:28:03,960 --> 00:28:06,439
Speaker 1: was really really impressive. But uh, you know, all these

627
00:28:06,480 --> 00:28:09,640
Speaker 1: guys such interesting skill sets. No matter what you're looking

628
00:28:09,680 --> 00:28:12,080
Speaker 1: for a receiver, uh, there's you're bound to find it

629
00:28:12,119 --> 00:28:14,399
Speaker 1: in this draft. So many different body types of skill sets.

630
00:28:14,520 --> 00:28:18,920
Speaker 1: And I'll throwout Dave's LSU guy Terris Marshall, who you know,

631
00:28:19,000 --> 00:28:22,879
Speaker 1: there aren't many snaky good pick six ft two plus

632
00:28:23,000 --> 00:28:25,240
Speaker 1: wide receivers in this draft and he's one of the

633
00:28:25,280 --> 00:28:28,080
Speaker 1: few guys. And I wonder if they if he was

634
00:28:28,160 --> 00:28:30,680
Speaker 1: the number two with Joe Burrow two years ago and

635
00:28:30,760 --> 00:28:32,879
Speaker 1: they didn't have Chaser Jefferson, would he have put up

636
00:28:32,920 --> 00:28:35,120
Speaker 1: those types of numbers. I think he has the talent

637
00:28:35,200 --> 00:28:37,240
Speaker 1: to do it. This year their quarterback wasn't the same,

638
00:28:37,240 --> 00:28:39,680
Speaker 1: so those numbers are down. And then look, there's just

639
00:28:39,920 --> 00:28:43,320
Speaker 1: like a dozen five ten guys that ran like in

640
00:28:43,400 --> 00:28:45,960
Speaker 1: the high fourth force. I mean, take your pick. You know,

641
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Speaker 1: Rondel Moore ran a sub fourth four. Obviously he's super fast.

642
00:28:48,960 --> 00:28:52,400
Speaker 1: Elijah More somebody mentioned throwing, you know, K Johnson small school,

643
00:28:52,440 --> 00:28:54,960
Speaker 1: d Es Gridge smaller school. There's just so many slot

644
00:28:55,040 --> 00:28:57,720
Speaker 1: guys and you can get in around three or round four.

645
00:28:57,880 --> 00:29:01,240
Speaker 1: This draft, it's just so so deep, And I think

646
00:29:01,680 --> 00:29:03,120
Speaker 1: this is really what we're gonna see now, right with

647
00:29:03,160 --> 00:29:05,239
Speaker 1: all the seven on seven football in high school, all

648
00:29:05,320 --> 00:29:08,320
Speaker 1: the spread offenses in college, this is just something I

649
00:29:08,360 --> 00:29:10,800
Speaker 1: think we're gonna have almost a constant flow of. Even

650
00:29:11,840 --> 00:29:14,160
Speaker 1: remind me two years ago we did not have a

651
00:29:14,200 --> 00:29:16,120
Speaker 1: wide receiver taken in the first round. But then you

652
00:29:16,320 --> 00:29:18,680
Speaker 1: DK Metcalf and Deebo Samuel and A D. Brown picked

653
00:29:18,720 --> 00:29:21,040
Speaker 1: in the second round. So I just think this is

654
00:29:21,080 --> 00:29:24,240
Speaker 1: gonna be a position. And I wonder, and I'll throw

655
00:29:24,280 --> 00:29:26,480
Speaker 1: this out, is this gonna at some point affect the

656
00:29:26,560 --> 00:29:29,760
Speaker 1: free agency market of wide receiver, where teams say, look,

657
00:29:29,840 --> 00:29:31,959
Speaker 1: we can find a guy in the draft. Like every year,

658
00:29:32,040 --> 00:29:34,000
Speaker 1: this guy's in the draft, so maybe we're not gonna

659
00:29:34,040 --> 00:29:35,600
Speaker 1: go to the top of the market to bring in

660
00:29:35,680 --> 00:29:37,880
Speaker 1: a wide receiver at some point. I don't know if

661
00:29:37,920 --> 00:29:40,520
Speaker 1: I'm ready to say that right now, just because it's

662
00:29:40,600 --> 00:29:43,479
Speaker 1: so weird with the shrinking cap and the COVID year

663
00:29:43,520 --> 00:29:46,320
Speaker 1: and everything. And I mean, Kenny Golladay got himself a

664
00:29:46,360 --> 00:29:47,800
Speaker 1: heck of a nice deal at the end of the day,

665
00:29:47,800 --> 00:29:49,760
Speaker 1: a point. It took him a little bit longer than

666
00:29:49,800 --> 00:29:52,360
Speaker 1: he probably wanted to, but he got himself a nice payday.

667
00:29:52,400 --> 00:29:54,720
Speaker 1: So I'm not ready to say that, but I think

668
00:29:54,760 --> 00:29:57,760
Speaker 1: it's an amazing point. And that's you know, obviously I

669
00:29:57,880 --> 00:30:01,120
Speaker 1: love watching a Maori c. D. Lamb and Michael Gallup,

670
00:30:01,320 --> 00:30:05,960
Speaker 1: but it's it's so easy to find these guys these days.

671
00:30:06,000 --> 00:30:08,360
Speaker 1: I mean, Michael Gallup was pick eighty one, came in

672
00:30:08,560 --> 00:30:11,960
Speaker 1: right away, contributed as a rookie ceedee Lamb was making

673
00:30:12,000 --> 00:30:13,680
Speaker 1: a case to be in the Rookie of the Year

674
00:30:13,720 --> 00:30:18,080
Speaker 1: conversation before Dak Prescott got hurt. Justin Jefferson one rookie

675
00:30:18,200 --> 00:30:19,800
Speaker 1: or should have one Rookie of the Year. In my opinion,

676
00:30:19,840 --> 00:30:21,440
Speaker 1: I'm a little bit biased because I went to L

677
00:30:21,560 --> 00:30:25,120
Speaker 1: s u Um. It's just it's almost like an assembly line.

678
00:30:25,160 --> 00:30:27,480
Speaker 1: You can draft these guys and put them right into

679
00:30:27,520 --> 00:30:29,680
Speaker 1: the starting lineup. And that's that's kind of why I

680
00:30:29,760 --> 00:30:32,840
Speaker 1: mentioned Michael Gallup earlier. Is do you want to try

681
00:30:32,920 --> 00:30:35,880
Speaker 1: to find a way to pay Michael Gallop sixteen seventeen

682
00:30:35,960 --> 00:30:37,800
Speaker 1: million a year or do you just want to go

683
00:30:37,960 --> 00:30:40,880
Speaker 1: pluck another guy off the assembly line? And it's starting

684
00:30:40,960 --> 00:30:43,920
Speaker 1: to become you know, it sounds harsh to say easy,

685
00:30:44,040 --> 00:30:46,960
Speaker 1: but there's just so many great receivers that it's just

686
00:30:47,200 --> 00:30:49,680
Speaker 1: it's very it's a very convincing argument to just keep

687
00:30:49,760 --> 00:30:51,720
Speaker 1: drafting these guys and keep it rolling. I need to

688
00:30:51,760 --> 00:30:53,880
Speaker 1: apologize to Julie. By the way, there's been two or

689
00:30:53,920 --> 00:30:56,640
Speaker 1: three ls you mentioned. I know that offenser sensibilities, and

690
00:30:56,680 --> 00:30:58,760
Speaker 1: I also forgot Terry McLaurin, who was also in that

691
00:30:58,840 --> 00:31:03,160
Speaker 1: great second Round Classic two. Yeah, I was about to say,

692
00:31:03,320 --> 00:31:05,560
Speaker 1: you want to talk about this. You know, as you

693
00:31:05,600 --> 00:31:08,280
Speaker 1: go through the evaluations of the receivers, you know, the

694
00:31:08,400 --> 00:31:11,479
Speaker 1: one to six, they're kind of almost a little bit interchangeable. UM,

695
00:31:11,600 --> 00:31:13,600
Speaker 1: a good bit in this draft. Like I mean, if

696
00:31:13,640 --> 00:31:15,440
Speaker 1: you don't get that one or two guy, you're still

697
00:31:15,440 --> 00:31:17,160
Speaker 1: going to get a quality guy at five or six

698
00:31:17,240 --> 00:31:19,800
Speaker 1: in this draft. But since you kept mentioning l s here,

699
00:31:19,840 --> 00:31:21,440
Speaker 1: I was like, you know, I needed another reason to

700
00:31:21,560 --> 00:31:24,960
Speaker 1: not careful the Cowboys. UM always asked me, being a

701
00:31:25,000 --> 00:31:27,400
Speaker 1: Florida girl in the SEC, you know who is my

702
00:31:27,480 --> 00:31:31,400
Speaker 1: biggest rival on like any other team in the SEC? Right? Yes, absolutely,

703
00:31:32,720 --> 00:31:33,960
Speaker 1: so I'm a glout to know that I have I

704
00:31:34,040 --> 00:31:35,600
Speaker 1: have double reason to make sure that we deal with

705
00:31:35,680 --> 00:31:38,840
Speaker 1: them perfore this season. But I'll try not to chuck

706
00:31:38,920 --> 00:31:45,080
Speaker 1: my shoe during this segment that you know, going to

707
00:31:45,280 --> 00:31:48,480
Speaker 1: the Ohio State Terry mccloria's surprise, they dropped him to

708
00:31:48,520 --> 00:31:50,880
Speaker 1: be a special team's guy, and it just goes to

709
00:31:50,960 --> 00:31:53,080
Speaker 1: show that, you know, you put him in his spot

710
00:31:53,120 --> 00:31:56,720
Speaker 1: doing the opportunity. UM. You know it's interesting because I

711
00:31:56,760 --> 00:31:59,000
Speaker 1: have here Garson on the show just a little bit

712
00:31:59,000 --> 00:32:01,479
Speaker 1: ago and he said that whole concept with the crazy

713
00:32:01,680 --> 00:32:04,960
Speaker 1: diva receiver is kind of going away. That's really be impactful.

714
00:32:05,440 --> 00:32:07,840
Speaker 1: You have to play multiple positions, you have to play defense,

715
00:32:07,840 --> 00:32:09,400
Speaker 1: you have to really just do whatever you can to

716
00:32:09,480 --> 00:32:11,920
Speaker 1: contribute to be on the field, and I think that's

717
00:32:11,920 --> 00:32:15,800
Speaker 1: an interesting argument as well. Two more topics I want

718
00:32:15,840 --> 00:32:18,600
Speaker 1: to get to. I think the edge rusher class is fascinating.

719
00:32:18,720 --> 00:32:20,480
Speaker 1: I had a couple of scouts on the last couple

720
00:32:20,480 --> 00:32:23,320
Speaker 1: of weeks on on our various podcasts Are Giants Huttle podcast,

721
00:32:23,720 --> 00:32:26,280
Speaker 1: and everyone says, this is the most dangerous edge rushing

722
00:32:26,320 --> 00:32:29,520
Speaker 1: class they've ever seen, where guys they have that little

723
00:32:29,760 --> 00:32:31,760
Speaker 1: nugget that will entice you and then you just see

724
00:32:31,800 --> 00:32:34,400
Speaker 1: the huge red flags and you don't know who to pick. So, Julie,

725
00:32:34,440 --> 00:32:37,840
Speaker 1: I'm going to you first, because Washington has perfected drafting

726
00:32:37,880 --> 00:32:40,600
Speaker 1: defensive lineman. You're just the best at it. You just

727
00:32:40,720 --> 00:32:43,520
Speaker 1: you have great guys year after year. So your thoughts

728
00:32:43,600 --> 00:32:46,440
Speaker 1: on the defensive line class and who knows, maybe you

729
00:32:46,480 --> 00:32:48,560
Speaker 1: guys will pick another one. I have no idea, but boy,

730
00:32:48,800 --> 00:32:50,360
Speaker 1: this is one of those classes where it's gonna be

731
00:32:50,400 --> 00:32:52,000
Speaker 1: hard to put your finger on the guy that's gonna

732
00:32:52,040 --> 00:32:54,760
Speaker 1: boom or bust. Yeah you know, I mean there's another

733
00:32:54,800 --> 00:32:57,640
Speaker 1: player coming out of Ohio's state and under chases Onoma

734
00:32:57,720 --> 00:33:02,600
Speaker 1: drives it more being that right, Yeah, Um, you know, look,

735
00:33:02,720 --> 00:33:05,640
Speaker 1: it's not a position we're necessarily to target. So in

736
00:33:05,720 --> 00:33:09,600
Speaker 1: all honesty, I don't have as much to say. We

737
00:33:09,720 --> 00:33:12,520
Speaker 1: kind of like the dynamic duel of Chase Young Mantes.

738
00:33:12,680 --> 00:33:15,720
Speaker 1: What two first rounders come and atch. Um. You know,

739
00:33:15,880 --> 00:33:18,040
Speaker 1: maybe we can bring it again. I think that linebacker

740
00:33:18,160 --> 00:33:19,800
Speaker 1: that can come down and maybe bullets and bring a

741
00:33:19,840 --> 00:33:22,760
Speaker 1: little extra pressure. Um. But you know, I thought someone

742
00:33:22,760 --> 00:33:26,960
Speaker 1: in an area that we're necessarily short on. What do

743
00:33:27,000 --> 00:33:30,240
Speaker 1: you guys think of the edge class. I'll let you

744
00:33:30,400 --> 00:33:33,800
Speaker 1: go first, Fran I'm trying to formulate just how disappointed

745
00:33:33,840 --> 00:33:35,920
Speaker 1: I am by this, by this position, because I have

746
00:33:36,080 --> 00:33:39,880
Speaker 1: to be Yeah, I think that really it's gonna be

747
00:33:39,920 --> 00:33:41,560
Speaker 1: one of those positions where the beauties in the eye

748
00:33:41,600 --> 00:33:43,920
Speaker 1: to beholder. John. When you look at all these guys,

749
00:33:44,360 --> 00:33:46,960
Speaker 1: like you said, they all have traits that are gonna

750
00:33:47,000 --> 00:33:49,520
Speaker 1: be admirable, that are gonna be attractive to teams. Uh,

751
00:33:49,600 --> 00:33:52,680
Speaker 1: you know, whether it's somebody's great production like a Greg Russo,

752
00:33:52,840 --> 00:33:55,600
Speaker 1: the traits of Jalen Phillips, both those guys from Miami.

753
00:33:55,640 --> 00:33:58,280
Speaker 1: You look at QUITTI Pay just a really well rounded player.

754
00:33:58,320 --> 00:34:00,720
Speaker 1: A zz O Glari from Georgia. Uh, you know he's

755
00:34:00,760 --> 00:34:03,640
Speaker 1: a little bit undersized, he's a little bit vertically challenged,

756
00:34:03,800 --> 00:34:05,920
Speaker 1: but he's long and he's got the ability to turn

757
00:34:05,960 --> 00:34:08,600
Speaker 1: the corner. Carlos Fashion has been doing it for years

758
00:34:08,800 --> 00:34:11,600
Speaker 1: at Wake Forest and wins with power and wins with efforts.

759
00:34:11,640 --> 00:34:14,040
Speaker 1: So you know, no matter what you're looking for, I

760
00:34:14,120 --> 00:34:16,919
Speaker 1: think you you've got some options here. But as you mentioned,

761
00:34:17,040 --> 00:34:20,440
Speaker 1: there's not that one guy, the Miles Garrett, that Chase Young,

762
00:34:20,560 --> 00:34:22,640
Speaker 1: the Nick and Joey Bosa that is gonna be the

763
00:34:22,960 --> 00:34:26,000
Speaker 1: slam dunk, top three, top five pick. That's why I

764
00:34:26,080 --> 00:34:28,160
Speaker 1: feel like this class gets a little bit ridiculed. But

765
00:34:28,200 --> 00:34:29,480
Speaker 1: then you look at it, s all right, well, there

766
00:34:29,520 --> 00:34:31,400
Speaker 1: there's a handful of guys that have a lot of

767
00:34:31,520 --> 00:34:34,040
Speaker 1: talent and the upside is there. It's just a matter

768
00:34:34,080 --> 00:34:35,960
Speaker 1: of whether or not they're able to reach it. And

769
00:34:36,120 --> 00:34:38,320
Speaker 1: that's that's exactly what I was gonna say, Like, I

770
00:34:38,440 --> 00:34:41,680
Speaker 1: apologize in advance if I'm complaining about having a number

771
00:34:41,719 --> 00:34:45,360
Speaker 1: ten overall pick. I get it. But it's it's funny

772
00:34:45,400 --> 00:34:48,520
Speaker 1: to think, like of the time, if you're picking in

773
00:34:48,600 --> 00:34:51,080
Speaker 1: the top ten, you've got a shot at a really

774
00:34:51,200 --> 00:34:54,160
Speaker 1: great pass rusher. Maybe not always an edge, but you know,

775
00:34:54,280 --> 00:34:56,480
Speaker 1: last year you had Derek Brown and Javon Kin law

776
00:34:56,640 --> 00:34:59,160
Speaker 1: d tackle. You talk about the Bossa Brothers, You talk

777
00:34:59,200 --> 00:35:01,520
Speaker 1: about Lenn Williams a few years ago. I know that

778
00:35:01,640 --> 00:35:04,680
Speaker 1: was a little ways back. But there are guys that

779
00:35:04,800 --> 00:35:08,000
Speaker 1: are always up there, except this year, like it just

780
00:35:08,160 --> 00:35:10,959
Speaker 1: doesn't seem like it's there. And that's a shame because

781
00:35:11,040 --> 00:35:13,760
Speaker 1: you know, the Cowboys have DeMarcus Lawrence, they have Randy Gregory,

782
00:35:14,520 --> 00:35:17,120
Speaker 1: but there's not a whole lot else behind them in

783
00:35:17,320 --> 00:35:20,239
Speaker 1: terms of guys that can get to the quarterback. And uh,

784
00:35:20,280 --> 00:35:22,040
Speaker 1: I don't think it's in the cards at number ten.

785
00:35:22,200 --> 00:35:24,960
Speaker 1: You know, some people talk about Quitty pay He's certainly

786
00:35:25,080 --> 00:35:28,080
Speaker 1: super athletic. I don't know if I trust the entire

787
00:35:28,160 --> 00:35:29,719
Speaker 1: body of work that I would spend a top ten

788
00:35:29,800 --> 00:35:31,600
Speaker 1: pick on him. The same thing goes for both of

789
00:35:31,640 --> 00:35:34,480
Speaker 1: the Miami guys, to be honest with you, UM so

790
00:35:34,719 --> 00:35:36,640
Speaker 1: you know, maybe you know, you talk about the second round,

791
00:35:36,760 --> 00:35:38,920
Speaker 1: maybe you're talking about like a boogie bash him out

792
00:35:38,960 --> 00:35:42,239
Speaker 1: of wake forest or something like that. But in terms

793
00:35:42,320 --> 00:35:45,320
Speaker 1: of like premier pass rushing talent at the top of

794
00:35:45,360 --> 00:35:47,359
Speaker 1: the draft, I I just don't think it makes sense

795
00:35:47,440 --> 00:35:49,680
Speaker 1: for where the talent is this year. I'm with you.

796
00:35:50,000 --> 00:35:52,040
Speaker 1: You know it's a Shane Jalen Phillips has that injury

797
00:35:52,120 --> 00:35:54,040
Speaker 1: history with the concussions because he didn't I think he

798
00:35:54,160 --> 00:35:57,880
Speaker 1: could be in that top ten conversation, But obviously that's

799
00:35:57,920 --> 00:35:59,759
Speaker 1: the stuff that the medical personnell have to figure out.

800
00:36:00,040 --> 00:36:02,920
Speaker 1: Final question before I get your predictions, Michael Parsons, I

801
00:36:02,960 --> 00:36:05,000
Speaker 1: think is an interesting prospect. You know, we saw Devin

802
00:36:05,080 --> 00:36:08,920
Speaker 1: White's impact in the Super Bowl. I just wonder and

803
00:36:09,040 --> 00:36:10,960
Speaker 1: you can judge by how much the guys that this

804
00:36:11,040 --> 00:36:14,040
Speaker 1: position get paid in free agency, right, what the position

805
00:36:14,200 --> 00:36:16,800
Speaker 1: value part of this conversation is for a guy like

806
00:36:16,960 --> 00:36:19,400
Speaker 1: Michael Parson's friend, I'll go to you first, because he's

807
00:36:19,440 --> 00:36:21,080
Speaker 1: not a coverage linebacker, right, He's a guy in third

808
00:36:21,120 --> 00:36:22,400
Speaker 1: DA and you're gonna want a blitz. You don't want

809
00:36:22,400 --> 00:36:24,560
Speaker 1: to necessarily playing coverage. Yet he just knew to the position,

810
00:36:24,640 --> 00:36:26,879
Speaker 1: not so great at that yet. But at the same time,

811
00:36:26,920 --> 00:36:29,759
Speaker 1: as physical traits are just off the charts. So how

812
00:36:29,840 --> 00:36:32,799
Speaker 1: do you see the league trying to balance all that out? Yeah,

813
00:36:32,840 --> 00:36:34,680
Speaker 1: I think it's one of the big conversations that a

814
00:36:34,760 --> 00:36:36,640
Speaker 1: lot of people have, one of the big debates a

815
00:36:36,719 --> 00:36:39,040
Speaker 1: lot of people have, John, You are no stranger to

816
00:36:39,120 --> 00:36:41,319
Speaker 1: those debates, because I'm sure you had them a few

817
00:36:41,400 --> 00:36:43,440
Speaker 1: years ago when the Giant selected se Kwon Barkley at

818
00:36:43,480 --> 00:36:46,480
Speaker 1: number two, you had those same positional value discussions, and

819
00:36:46,600 --> 00:36:49,360
Speaker 1: those you're gonna have to have those with linebacker. I

820
00:36:49,480 --> 00:36:52,040
Speaker 1: do think too, when you look at Devin White, when

821
00:36:52,040 --> 00:36:54,759
Speaker 1: you look at Devin Bush, those guys were green dot

822
00:36:54,840 --> 00:36:57,200
Speaker 1: guys on defense. They're they're gonna be the play callers,

823
00:36:57,239 --> 00:36:59,080
Speaker 1: the guys that are gonna be the field generals in

824
00:36:59,080 --> 00:37:00,920
Speaker 1: the middle of the defense. And if you are a

825
00:37:01,000 --> 00:37:03,880
Speaker 1: linebacker that presents that skill set, I do think that

826
00:37:04,000 --> 00:37:07,719
Speaker 1: that adds another extra layer of value that maybe you know,

827
00:37:07,760 --> 00:37:11,080
Speaker 1: we're we don't talk about quite enough. Unfortunately, well also

828
00:37:11,120 --> 00:37:13,160
Speaker 1: on the outside, we don't meet with these guys to

829
00:37:13,200 --> 00:37:15,360
Speaker 1: get a full sense of whether or not they're capable

830
00:37:15,440 --> 00:37:17,920
Speaker 1: of being that. And so that's why I almost reserve

831
00:37:18,160 --> 00:37:20,160
Speaker 1: judgment in terms of saying, oh, this guy can be

832
00:37:20,280 --> 00:37:22,000
Speaker 1: that guy or he can't be. But I do think

833
00:37:22,040 --> 00:37:26,560
Speaker 1: that's another layer that isn't discussed quite enough for that spot. Yeah,

834
00:37:26,600 --> 00:37:28,880
Speaker 1: it's funny because you mentioned se Quan and not you know,

835
00:37:28,960 --> 00:37:31,040
Speaker 1: the Cowboys drafted Zeke and the top five not that

836
00:37:31,200 --> 00:37:34,640
Speaker 1: long ago, and and it was a widely popular move

837
00:37:34,840 --> 00:37:36,560
Speaker 1: at the time. I think a lot of people would

838
00:37:36,560 --> 00:37:39,440
Speaker 1: probably reassess how they feel about that now, But in

839
00:37:40,400 --> 00:37:42,920
Speaker 1: the vast majority of people were very on board that pick.

840
00:37:43,400 --> 00:37:45,799
Speaker 1: And now we hear five, you know, five years later,

841
00:37:45,880 --> 00:37:48,520
Speaker 1: and I think, for me personally, if I'm spending a

842
00:37:48,560 --> 00:37:50,800
Speaker 1: top five pick, I need you to have a drastic

843
00:37:50,880 --> 00:37:55,960
Speaker 1: impact on the passing game, Like I need you to throw, catch, cover, block,

844
00:37:56,280 --> 00:37:58,480
Speaker 1: or sack the quarterback. Like That's what I'm looking for

845
00:37:58,600 --> 00:38:00,799
Speaker 1: in a top ten pick. And so if you're gonna

846
00:38:00,840 --> 00:38:03,160
Speaker 1: draft Michael Parks Parsons, he's I mean, he's a hell

847
00:38:03,200 --> 00:38:05,360
Speaker 1: of an athlete. Like you turn on his tape and

848
00:38:05,440 --> 00:38:09,200
Speaker 1: it's it's insane um And you know, maybe there's an

849
00:38:09,280 --> 00:38:11,880
Speaker 1: argument again not really knowing what dan Quinn wants in

850
00:38:11,960 --> 00:38:14,600
Speaker 1: his defense dan Quinn, you know they call it a leo.

851
00:38:14,800 --> 00:38:17,279
Speaker 1: He loves to use like a pass rushing linebacker. He

852
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Speaker 1: did it with Bruce Irvin in Seattle for years. Vic

853
00:38:20,360 --> 00:38:22,480
Speaker 1: Beasley kind of filled that role for him in Atlanta

854
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Speaker 1: for a while. If you wanted the draft Michael Parsons

855
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Speaker 1: and have him rush the passer, you know, Devin White's

856
00:38:28,200 --> 00:38:30,680
Speaker 1: a great example. John just throwing L s U players

857
00:38:30,840 --> 00:38:34,640
Speaker 1: out there. For me, I appreciate it. Um, if he's

858
00:38:34,680 --> 00:38:38,000
Speaker 1: gonna have seven eight nine sacks the season, I'm on

859
00:38:38,160 --> 00:38:40,239
Speaker 1: board with it. But if he's more of an off

860
00:38:40,320 --> 00:38:43,920
Speaker 1: ball linebacker, I'm just not convinced the values there, especially

861
00:38:44,480 --> 00:38:46,760
Speaker 1: when you're talking about you know, guys like Patrick Sartan

862
00:38:46,840 --> 00:38:49,200
Speaker 1: and j. C. Horner there as well. I think that's

863
00:38:49,239 --> 00:38:52,080
Speaker 1: more valuable to me. But that's just my opinion. I

864
00:38:52,120 --> 00:38:53,759
Speaker 1: think if you guys don't want to pass on them,

865
00:38:53,920 --> 00:38:56,480
Speaker 1: I don't know, it could be drinking for us. That's

866
00:38:56,480 --> 00:38:58,960
Speaker 1: a good point. That's a really good point. By the way,

867
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Speaker 1: he could be one of those guys that slips Julie,

868
00:39:00,680 --> 00:39:05,520
Speaker 1: no question. Yeah, yeah. I mean, look, coach loves those hybrids.

869
00:39:05,640 --> 00:39:07,840
Speaker 1: He loves those guys that are versatile. You know, you

870
00:39:07,960 --> 00:39:11,120
Speaker 1: figure out a way to put it in. Um. So yeah, look,

871
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Speaker 1: I think if you were to follow us, I would

872
00:39:12,880 --> 00:39:15,279
Speaker 1: be fantastic. I prefer that would private and say okay,

873
00:39:15,360 --> 00:39:16,880
Speaker 1: let's go back and figure out what's going on, and

874
00:39:17,000 --> 00:39:20,680
Speaker 1: still anticipate seeing him available at nineteen. I'm just defending.

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00:39:20,719 --> 00:39:23,000
Speaker 1: Nobody's mentioned any n y U football player so far

876
00:39:23,120 --> 00:39:25,600
Speaker 1: during this call, but that's just me. Hey, we we

877
00:39:25,680 --> 00:39:28,040
Speaker 1: haven't lost a game in like a hundred years. We're great.

878
00:39:28,440 --> 00:39:32,920
Speaker 1: Uh final, final, final question. We'll go in order this

879
00:39:33,040 --> 00:39:36,120
Speaker 1: time of draft pick. So, Dave Hellman, you get the

880
00:39:36,160 --> 00:39:38,320
Speaker 1: floor a position I'm sure the Cowboys rather not have.

881
00:39:39,000 --> 00:39:40,920
Speaker 1: But who do you think the Cowboys get? A number ten?

882
00:39:40,920 --> 00:39:43,640
Speaker 1: If you have to guess right now? I mean I won't.

883
00:39:43,680 --> 00:39:45,719
Speaker 1: I won't say the other guy's name. I've done it enough.

884
00:39:46,120 --> 00:39:48,040
Speaker 1: We don't think he'll be there. But I mean, if

885
00:39:48,080 --> 00:39:50,000
Speaker 1: you're if you're asking me to bet on it right now,

886
00:39:50,200 --> 00:39:53,560
Speaker 1: I honestly think they need they need a cornerback. They

887
00:39:53,680 --> 00:39:56,880
Speaker 1: want a cornerback. There are two very good cornerbacks at

888
00:39:56,920 --> 00:40:00,239
Speaker 1: the top of this draft would obviously would be three

889
00:40:00,320 --> 00:40:02,840
Speaker 1: if not for Caleb Farley's medical situation. I think that

890
00:40:02,960 --> 00:40:06,560
Speaker 1: probably brings him a little bit. Um. I think it'll

891
00:40:06,560 --> 00:40:09,320
Speaker 1: be Patrick's or Tan and I think he'll be there. Honestly,

892
00:40:09,400 --> 00:40:11,560
Speaker 1: with all of the offense and firepower, I think they

893
00:40:11,640 --> 00:40:13,759
Speaker 1: like certain a little bit more. That's not a knock

894
00:40:13,800 --> 00:40:17,520
Speaker 1: on horn, but yeah, I think unless something crazy happens,

895
00:40:17,560 --> 00:40:19,680
Speaker 1: I think Patrick's or Tanza thick. All right, I'm gonna

896
00:40:19,680 --> 00:40:22,920
Speaker 1: go eleven. Here um the cop out answers whichever one

897
00:40:23,040 --> 00:40:26,840
Speaker 1: is left between Slater, Sewell, Waddle and Smith, because I

898
00:40:26,880 --> 00:40:28,640
Speaker 1: think that's honestly going to be the best player on

899
00:40:28,680 --> 00:40:30,120
Speaker 1: the board. But if I had to guess, I think

900
00:40:30,239 --> 00:40:32,239
Speaker 1: enough people will be scared Davante Smith that he weighs

901
00:40:32,239 --> 00:40:35,040
Speaker 1: a hundred and seventy pounds soaking wet, and he'll get

902
00:40:35,120 --> 00:40:37,520
Speaker 1: there to eleven. And remember Joe Judge has those Nick

903
00:40:37,560 --> 00:40:41,400
Speaker 1: Sabing connections and Saban loves Davante Smith plays him on

904
00:40:41,480 --> 00:40:44,200
Speaker 1: special teams. Tough guy. I think the Giants would go

905
00:40:44,360 --> 00:40:46,600
Speaker 1: there if he is there. So I will make the

906
00:40:46,880 --> 00:40:50,560
Speaker 1: go on a limb and say, Davante Smith out of Alabama, Bran.

907
00:40:51,400 --> 00:40:53,400
Speaker 1: I I hate to be this guy, but I do

908
00:40:53,600 --> 00:40:55,440
Speaker 1: feel that they are in this position where they can

909
00:40:55,480 --> 00:40:58,479
Speaker 1: take the best player that falls to them from this point.

910
00:40:58,560 --> 00:41:00,440
Speaker 1: So when you talk about you know, sir Tan and

911
00:41:00,520 --> 00:41:02,400
Speaker 1: Smith go off the board, all right, Well, is Jalen

912
00:41:02,440 --> 00:41:04,880
Speaker 1: Waddle there? Is j C. Horne there? Did Caroline to

913
00:41:04,960 --> 00:41:08,160
Speaker 1: take one of them to Denver? Take one who is there?

914
00:41:08,200 --> 00:41:10,120
Speaker 1: And I do feel that they've got that ability and

915
00:41:10,200 --> 00:41:12,480
Speaker 1: then the ability to trade down as well. So uh,

916
00:41:12,680 --> 00:41:15,400
Speaker 1: you know, it's it's the cop out, but I do

917
00:41:15,560 --> 00:41:17,239
Speaker 1: feel that's the way they end up going. I don't

918
00:41:17,280 --> 00:41:19,320
Speaker 1: think that they're going into this saying we need to

919
00:41:19,400 --> 00:41:21,600
Speaker 1: take a corner here, we need to take a linebacker

920
00:41:21,719 --> 00:41:24,080
Speaker 1: or an offensive lineman. They've got the abileity to go

921
00:41:24,080 --> 00:41:25,920
Speaker 1: a number of ways, and they'll follow the board. Pick

922
00:41:26,000 --> 00:41:28,800
Speaker 1: a player. Friend, I'm not on the way that come on?

923
00:41:29,120 --> 00:41:32,680
Speaker 1: Yeah alright, so uh well we'll say waddle. If Jaylen

924
00:41:32,719 --> 00:41:36,000
Speaker 1: Waddle is there with on onto this board, that the

925
00:41:36,040 --> 00:41:37,920
Speaker 1: way they go. I've never heard of Philly guy be

926
00:41:38,080 --> 00:41:40,960
Speaker 1: so wishy washy about anything in my entire life. You

927
00:41:41,040 --> 00:41:43,080
Speaker 1: have to know that this is me, this is my car,

928
00:41:43,640 --> 00:41:45,279
Speaker 1: this is the way, this is the role I play,

929
00:41:46,760 --> 00:41:49,000
Speaker 1: going along with the City of brotherly Love. We love

930
00:41:49,080 --> 00:41:54,640
Speaker 1: you all, you love everybody. That's exactly right. Um okay,

931
00:41:54,880 --> 00:41:57,399
Speaker 1: I think we have to go defense, and I'm gonna

932
00:41:57,440 --> 00:42:01,040
Speaker 1: go with Jeremiah Lucy Cora Moola out of Notre Dame.

933
00:42:01,160 --> 00:42:03,400
Speaker 1: I think this is a very versatile player. It probably

934
00:42:03,400 --> 00:42:07,000
Speaker 1: fits a lot of needs. Again, versatility is so important

935
00:42:07,040 --> 00:42:10,120
Speaker 1: to this coaching staff. Um, They're like to just interchange

936
00:42:10,160 --> 00:42:11,840
Speaker 1: the guys to be able to match them up depending

937
00:42:11,920 --> 00:42:14,359
Speaker 1: on whomever all three of new teams put out there

938
00:42:14,400 --> 00:42:16,440
Speaker 1: on the field. Can Jeremiah is that guy that can

939
00:42:16,480 --> 00:42:18,480
Speaker 1: come in and have an immediate impact and be definitely

940
00:42:18,600 --> 00:42:21,120
Speaker 1: upgrade from where we were last year. Very good. Okay,

941
00:42:21,160 --> 00:42:23,959
Speaker 1: I'll give everybody a chance here. Where can they find

942
00:42:24,040 --> 00:42:26,359
Speaker 1: your best draft content? Everything you're doing for the draft,

943
00:42:26,480 --> 00:42:30,279
Speaker 1: Let's do some cheap self promotion. Fran will start with

944
00:42:30,360 --> 00:42:33,120
Speaker 1: you this time. Sure, so you can certainly find the

945
00:42:33,200 --> 00:42:35,959
Speaker 1: Journey to the Draft podcast wherever podcast can be found.

946
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Speaker 1: We go twice weekly all all year long to every

947
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Speaker 1: single week. We put out two episodes a week over

948
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Speaker 1: on the Journey to the Draft Podcast, and you can

949
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Speaker 1: follow me on Twitter at Eagles exos. Yeah. Sure, it's

950
00:42:52,400 --> 00:42:55,120
Speaker 1: that awkward silence of zooms and nobody wants to be rude, right.

951
00:42:55,239 --> 00:42:57,360
Speaker 1: Um like Washington Football dot Com. It's just where we

952
00:42:57,440 --> 00:43:00,920
Speaker 1: have everything, um where recreating our podcast. So that's the

953
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Speaker 1: joys of coming in and trying to make something new.

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Speaker 1: So um, just our website. We've got it all what

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Speaker 1: we look forward to, Dave, Yeah, I mean you can

956
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Speaker 1: find everything I right say and whatever else on Dallas

957
00:43:13,160 --> 00:43:15,879
Speaker 1: Cowboys dot com. We do have the Draft Show, which

958
00:43:15,920 --> 00:43:18,200
Speaker 1: I think is in like it's eighth season at this point.

959
00:43:18,280 --> 00:43:21,560
Speaker 1: We also go twice a week. It's Cowboys centric, but

960
00:43:21,680 --> 00:43:24,080
Speaker 1: I promise you whether like you can listen to it

961
00:43:24,160 --> 00:43:25,879
Speaker 1: as a fan of any team in the division, any

962
00:43:25,960 --> 00:43:29,000
Speaker 1: team in the league. We've got former scouts like Bucky

963
00:43:29,080 --> 00:43:31,880
Speaker 1: Brooks and Brian brought us on the show. Dane Brugler,

964
00:43:31,920 --> 00:43:34,359
Speaker 1: who does amazing work for the athletic is on our show.

965
00:43:35,040 --> 00:43:37,640
Speaker 1: Um it's it's wonderful. We do it twice a week.

966
00:43:37,719 --> 00:43:40,319
Speaker 1: You can find it on our site, on our mobile app,

967
00:43:40,400 --> 00:43:43,640
Speaker 1: you can find it on any other podcast app. And uh,

968
00:43:43,719 --> 00:43:47,440
Speaker 1: I'm on Twitter at Hellman d C talking draft like

969
00:43:47,640 --> 00:43:50,080
Speaker 1: way more often than I need to be, but I'm

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Speaker 1: I'm out there for sure. Show branded gear Hellman very fancy.

971
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Speaker 1: I am officially impressed, all right. And for the Giants,

972
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Speaker 1: you can find me on Twitter at Schmelk that's with

973
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Speaker 1: two ease um and you can find our draft coverage

974
00:44:02,280 --> 00:44:04,200
Speaker 1: on Big Blue Kickoff Live us our daily show. Every

975
00:44:04,239 --> 00:44:07,160
Speaker 1: weekday at noon. We've been talking to beat writers that

976
00:44:07,239 --> 00:44:09,640
Speaker 1: cover all these college teams about the college prospects and

977
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Speaker 1: then the Giants. Total Podcast is our interview podcast. We

978
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Speaker 1: just did a Louis Ready gave us twenty minutes. What

979
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Speaker 1: a wonderful guy. Just gave us great information we've had

980
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Speaker 1: Mike Garret, Folo, great Casell Hellman's guy Brian brought us.

981
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Speaker 1: So make sure you guys go check that out again.

982
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Speaker 1: Much like what Dave said, it's Giants talk, but it's frankly,

983
00:44:27,400 --> 00:44:29,799
Speaker 1: at this time of year, it's prospect talk. So if

984
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Speaker 1: like any of these teams, all these places are great

985
00:44:32,360 --> 00:44:34,200
Speaker 1: place to go for content if you want to learn

986
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Speaker 1: about prospects coming out in the draft. Everybody, thank you

987
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Speaker 1: very much. I officially close the first ever NFC East

988
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Speaker 1: round Table. We thank our trio for joining me on

989
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Speaker 1: that first ever NFC East round table. That was fun.

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Speaker 1: I really had a ball. Hopefully we can do it

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Speaker 1: again as we get closer to this season. Thanks to

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Speaker 1: everyone for being with us. Did Julie to Dave to

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