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I hope you had a great Christmas. 13 00:00:39,560 --> 00:00:42,640 Speaker 3: So this is an episode we did before Christmas to 14 00:00:42,680 --> 00:00:44,320 Speaker 3: put up because it's got some really good interviews. 15 00:00:44,520 --> 00:00:47,199 Speaker 2: But because this is not live or even close to 16 00:00:47,240 --> 00:00:48,879 Speaker 2: when the game, we're gonna lie about it. I want 17 00:00:48,880 --> 00:00:49,919 Speaker 2: you to give me two options. 18 00:00:50,800 --> 00:00:54,360 Speaker 3: One, Wow, cowboys, can you believe it got to playing 19 00:00:54,400 --> 00:00:56,040 Speaker 3: so well? Got a great shot super Bowl? And then 20 00:00:56,280 --> 00:00:59,480 Speaker 3: then to the other version of that. Okay, so uh 21 00:01:00,000 --> 00:01:01,680 Speaker 3: and who knows me? Leave them both in. Go on, 22 00:01:01,760 --> 00:01:03,160 Speaker 3: it's to be funny, all right, Let's do the version 23 00:01:03,160 --> 00:01:04,520 Speaker 3: where the cowboy. They're really doing well? 24 00:01:04,560 --> 00:01:07,319 Speaker 1: Right and go Wow, guys, I mean, dude, who would 25 00:01:07,319 --> 00:01:09,040 Speaker 1: have thought this is so unbelievable? 26 00:01:09,200 --> 00:01:11,560 Speaker 2: We went in, we beat the Bills, I mean, we 27 00:01:11,680 --> 00:01:14,959 Speaker 2: beat the Dolphins, and then we beat freaking Detroit. Guys, 28 00:01:15,000 --> 00:01:16,920 Speaker 2: we're on a roll. I don't I think we're unstoppable. 29 00:01:16,959 --> 00:01:18,520 Speaker 2: We're gonna win Super Bowl. Wow. 30 00:01:18,640 --> 00:01:21,800 Speaker 3: Okay, I don't know about winning all three of those 31 00:01:21,840 --> 00:01:23,080 Speaker 3: games if that's actually accurate or not. 32 00:01:23,120 --> 00:01:25,280 Speaker 2: But did you see that, dude? And Dak's six touchdowns 33 00:01:25,319 --> 00:01:28,959 Speaker 2: in one game? Wow? Unbelievable. Is he gonna win the MVP? 34 00:01:30,600 --> 00:01:30,959 Speaker 2: All right? 35 00:01:31,000 --> 00:01:31,160 Speaker 4: Well? 36 00:01:31,160 --> 00:01:31,800 Speaker 2: Go cowboys? 37 00:01:32,640 --> 00:01:33,240 Speaker 4: Cowboys? 38 00:01:33,360 --> 00:01:33,640 Speaker 2: All right? 39 00:01:33,840 --> 00:01:38,200 Speaker 1: The opposite And I don't know, dude, Like, how do 40 00:01:38,240 --> 00:01:38,880 Speaker 1: they blow it like this? 41 00:01:38,959 --> 00:01:41,240 Speaker 2: Don't cry, No, it's just gonna get mad. Fun out 42 00:01:41,240 --> 00:01:41,600 Speaker 2: for crying. 43 00:01:41,600 --> 00:01:43,640 Speaker 1: Man, it's just hard man, Like they had such a 44 00:01:43,680 --> 00:01:46,080 Speaker 1: good thing going and then they're just gonna blow it. 45 00:01:46,200 --> 00:01:48,280 Speaker 2: You know what typical cowboys? Fsh I was gonna ask 46 00:01:48,280 --> 00:01:50,480 Speaker 2: if you somewhat expected it. It's kind of what the 47 00:01:50,480 --> 00:01:51,040 Speaker 2: cowboys do. 48 00:01:51,160 --> 00:01:51,360 Speaker 4: Man. 49 00:01:51,840 --> 00:01:53,640 Speaker 2: Well, I'm sorry. I'm also sad because I had a 50 00:01:53,640 --> 00:01:55,960 Speaker 2: future and had Dak for MVP? Is that happening? I don't. 51 00:01:56,080 --> 00:01:57,640 Speaker 2: I mean, do you think it's happening. I don't think so. 52 00:01:57,640 --> 00:02:01,720 Speaker 2: I played in three games he got it. Not doing 53 00:02:01,720 --> 00:02:06,880 Speaker 2: that one. I'm not doing that version. That's dark man. Yeah, 54 00:02:07,160 --> 00:02:08,360 Speaker 2: what are you talking about? All right? 55 00:02:08,480 --> 00:02:12,200 Speaker 3: Cut, all right, here we are, so we'll talk to 56 00:02:12,520 --> 00:02:16,000 Speaker 3: to two times Super Bowl champion Logan Ryan and former 57 00:02:16,080 --> 00:02:19,160 Speaker 3: second overall pick from the two thousand NFL draft, LeVar Arrington. 58 00:02:19,600 --> 00:02:21,519 Speaker 3: Logan Ryan was coming out with this one show and 59 00:02:21,840 --> 00:02:23,960 Speaker 3: he messaged me early early, early in the morning, was like, 60 00:02:24,000 --> 00:02:25,680 Speaker 3: I just got picked up by the forty nine ers. 61 00:02:26,000 --> 00:02:27,520 Speaker 2: Can we do it next day? I was like, dud don't, 62 00:02:27,520 --> 00:02:29,040 Speaker 2: don't do it all you don't worry about it. 63 00:02:29,080 --> 00:02:30,760 Speaker 3: I was like, dude, we're good. Go play for the 64 00:02:30,800 --> 00:02:33,760 Speaker 3: forty nine ers. It's pretty cool. So h He won 65 00:02:33,840 --> 00:02:36,240 Speaker 3: two Super Bowls with Patriots in fourteen and sixteen. He 66 00:02:36,280 --> 00:02:38,880 Speaker 3: gave us some great recruiting insight. Good dude, love to 67 00:02:38,919 --> 00:02:40,640 Speaker 3: having him. Here is Logan Ryan? 68 00:02:41,440 --> 00:02:42,320 Speaker 2: Logan, where do you live? 69 00:02:42,520 --> 00:02:42,600 Speaker 4: Like? 70 00:02:42,639 --> 00:02:45,440 Speaker 2: What town I live in? Currently in Tampa, Florida. 71 00:02:45,600 --> 00:02:48,000 Speaker 3: So what's up in Nashville? Like we're lucky to have 72 00:02:48,840 --> 00:02:51,639 Speaker 3: first of all super pumpture here. Yeah, but like, what's here? 73 00:02:52,880 --> 00:02:55,200 Speaker 2: You're here. Yeah, that's true. I can agree with that. 74 00:02:55,280 --> 00:02:59,040 Speaker 5: Yeah, yeah, you know, I was hosting Good Morning Football 75 00:02:59,120 --> 00:03:01,560 Speaker 5: and had a lot of fun doing that and got 76 00:03:01,600 --> 00:03:04,519 Speaker 5: some good, good feedback, and my publicist was kind of 77 00:03:04,560 --> 00:03:08,679 Speaker 5: working the phones a little bit and opportunity coming to 78 00:03:08,720 --> 00:03:11,639 Speaker 5: your podcast, which was awesome. And I used to live here, 79 00:03:11,680 --> 00:03:13,880 Speaker 5: so I lived here for three four years. My content 80 00:03:13,960 --> 00:03:16,840 Speaker 5: guys out here. I got a lot of friends on 81 00:03:16,840 --> 00:03:19,760 Speaker 5: the Titans. So so I'm doing some more media while 82 00:03:19,800 --> 00:03:21,799 Speaker 5: my name is hot and hanging out with you. 83 00:03:21,960 --> 00:03:22,560 Speaker 2: Is that the goal? 84 00:03:22,680 --> 00:03:24,360 Speaker 3: Because I know you probably want to Are you a 85 00:03:24,360 --> 00:03:27,000 Speaker 3: free agent? Yeah, you're waiting for the call, or you like, 86 00:03:27,080 --> 00:03:29,120 Speaker 3: screw the call I'm getting. I'm doing media because it's 87 00:03:29,160 --> 00:03:33,000 Speaker 3: awesome either or you know, I'm still training six days 88 00:03:33,040 --> 00:03:35,560 Speaker 3: a week. But I'm taking advantage of the opportunities. And 89 00:03:35,600 --> 00:03:37,920 Speaker 3: I've always you know, when I was a Tennessee Titans, 90 00:03:37,920 --> 00:03:39,640 Speaker 3: I hosted a Logan Ryan Show, where I hosted a 91 00:03:39,720 --> 00:03:41,480 Speaker 3: radio show for two three years. I hosted a show 92 00:03:41,480 --> 00:03:44,560 Speaker 3: in New York, hosted the NFL Player podcast. I've always 93 00:03:44,560 --> 00:03:47,680 Speaker 3: been like the speech before the locker room guy. 94 00:03:49,240 --> 00:03:51,280 Speaker 2: Were you always that guy in high school too? Yeah? 95 00:03:51,280 --> 00:03:54,880 Speaker 5: I was a quarterback growing up like and growing up 96 00:03:54,880 --> 00:03:56,040 Speaker 5: my whole life. I was a point guard. I was 97 00:03:56,080 --> 00:03:57,800 Speaker 5: a quarterback. I was a pitcher, so I always had 98 00:03:57,840 --> 00:03:59,480 Speaker 5: the ball in my hands. I was always a guy 99 00:03:59,520 --> 00:04:00,120 Speaker 5: in spy. 100 00:04:00,640 --> 00:04:00,920 Speaker 2: I know. 101 00:04:01,880 --> 00:04:03,680 Speaker 5: You know how a lot of guys say, oh, you know, 102 00:04:03,720 --> 00:04:05,720 Speaker 5: I kind of lead by my actions, not I. 103 00:04:05,680 --> 00:04:07,800 Speaker 2: Like I do both. Yeah I felt that, Yeah, I 104 00:04:07,840 --> 00:04:08,480 Speaker 2: lead by my words. 105 00:04:08,760 --> 00:04:11,920 Speaker 3: At what age did you start to be because let's see, 106 00:04:11,960 --> 00:04:13,640 Speaker 3: like in ninth grade, I'm not the athletic ar. I'm 107 00:04:13,640 --> 00:04:14,960 Speaker 3: not comparing that, but I'm just going to tell you 108 00:04:15,080 --> 00:04:16,960 Speaker 3: my story. In ninth grade, I got to move out 109 00:04:17,000 --> 00:04:18,920 Speaker 3: played with senior high team ten eleven twelfth graders. But 110 00:04:18,960 --> 00:04:20,880 Speaker 3: I didn't say anything because I'm the freaking ninth grader 111 00:04:20,880 --> 00:04:23,560 Speaker 3: and I didn't play as a ninth grader. Yeah, when 112 00:04:23,600 --> 00:04:25,280 Speaker 3: did you start playing? And when could you actually be 113 00:04:25,320 --> 00:04:27,960 Speaker 3: a vocal leader in high school? Because I'm imagining that 114 00:04:28,040 --> 00:04:31,360 Speaker 3: you were far more athletic than the other kids your age. 115 00:04:31,600 --> 00:04:31,800 Speaker 2: Yeah. 116 00:04:31,839 --> 00:04:34,120 Speaker 5: So when I got to high school, I started varsity 117 00:04:34,279 --> 00:04:36,960 Speaker 5: basketball as a freshman, but I was on the freshman 118 00:04:37,000 --> 00:04:41,080 Speaker 5: football team, so I led my little, you know, freshman 119 00:04:41,120 --> 00:04:43,679 Speaker 5: teammates on the freshman games. But I wasn't on varsity 120 00:04:43,720 --> 00:04:46,760 Speaker 5: and in basketball, I kind of was the point guard. 121 00:04:46,800 --> 00:04:49,560 Speaker 5: But I mean these kids my brother was four years older. Mean, 122 00:04:49,600 --> 00:04:51,120 Speaker 5: my brother was a senior and I was a freshman, 123 00:04:51,400 --> 00:04:53,039 Speaker 5: and I was playing with his friends, and I felt 124 00:04:53,040 --> 00:04:54,800 Speaker 5: really little compared to them, Like I was like, I 125 00:04:54,800 --> 00:04:55,520 Speaker 5: didn't have a voice. 126 00:04:55,560 --> 00:04:56,400 Speaker 2: I just ran the place. 127 00:04:56,600 --> 00:04:58,600 Speaker 3: You were playing as like a fourteen year old fifteen 128 00:04:58,640 --> 00:05:02,159 Speaker 3: years old with eighteen year old Yeah that's you. Were 129 00:05:02,160 --> 00:05:04,880 Speaker 3: you as good as some of them. I was definitely 130 00:05:04,920 --> 00:05:06,279 Speaker 3: good enough to be on the court, for sure. 131 00:05:06,279 --> 00:05:06,600 Speaker 2: I wasn't. 132 00:05:06,640 --> 00:05:08,840 Speaker 5: I wasn't the best player at fourteen on our team. 133 00:05:08,960 --> 00:05:13,960 Speaker 5: Yeah I knew that. But by you know, my sophomore 134 00:05:14,720 --> 00:05:17,200 Speaker 5: junior year, yeah, definitely, So I kind of grew into it. 135 00:05:17,400 --> 00:05:20,039 Speaker 5: I would say, once that ball got in my hands 136 00:05:20,120 --> 00:05:21,719 Speaker 5: and I realized what we needed to win, and I 137 00:05:21,760 --> 00:05:24,039 Speaker 5: wasn't afraid to step up and demand that because I 138 00:05:24,080 --> 00:05:26,320 Speaker 5: always wanted, you know, to win more than anything else. 139 00:05:26,400 --> 00:05:28,840 Speaker 3: I was watching The redeem Team on Netflix. I don't 140 00:05:28,839 --> 00:05:30,800 Speaker 3: know if you've seen it yet. It's about, you know, 141 00:05:30,839 --> 00:05:33,640 Speaker 3: the US Olympic basketball team got a bronze and they 142 00:05:33,640 --> 00:05:36,240 Speaker 3: were embarrassed and they had to somehow get a new 143 00:05:36,240 --> 00:05:38,720 Speaker 3: coach get the players to commit in because to a 144 00:05:38,760 --> 00:05:40,479 Speaker 3: lot of those guys, I would get that, being twenty 145 00:05:40,520 --> 00:05:42,480 Speaker 3: two and rich and you just got and now they 146 00:05:42,520 --> 00:05:44,760 Speaker 3: want you to go train for months, and I would 147 00:05:44,760 --> 00:05:46,040 Speaker 3: get why some of them wouldn't. 148 00:05:45,680 --> 00:05:47,600 Speaker 2: Want to do that. I watched that. I loved it. 149 00:05:47,640 --> 00:05:48,200 Speaker 2: Wasn't it awesome? 150 00:05:48,279 --> 00:05:48,440 Speaker 3: Yeah? 151 00:05:48,440 --> 00:05:49,720 Speaker 2: Man, I got a Kobe tattoo on me. 152 00:05:50,120 --> 00:05:52,240 Speaker 5: They had to bring Kobe in that, you know, they 153 00:05:52,279 --> 00:05:54,000 Speaker 5: had to bring Kobe in it to really win that. 154 00:05:54,080 --> 00:05:56,480 Speaker 2: And and that was my point about leadership. 155 00:05:57,600 --> 00:06:00,440 Speaker 3: And I always understood and respect to Kobe because in 156 00:06:00,480 --> 00:06:02,520 Speaker 3: my mind's probably the third greatest player of all time, 157 00:06:02,880 --> 00:06:06,000 Speaker 3: top three for sure. And the fact that the guys were, 158 00:06:06,080 --> 00:06:08,239 Speaker 3: like we were in Vegas, we went to the club, 159 00:06:08,279 --> 00:06:10,800 Speaker 3: we did what we put in Kobe's their gloves on 160 00:06:11,040 --> 00:06:13,560 Speaker 3: going to the gym when they're coming in four am. 161 00:06:13,600 --> 00:06:17,240 Speaker 3: And all those guys slowly started to do what Kobe 162 00:06:17,279 --> 00:06:20,279 Speaker 3: was doing because he was doing it and he was 163 00:06:20,320 --> 00:06:20,960 Speaker 3: that leader. 164 00:06:21,279 --> 00:06:21,679 Speaker 2: Yeah. 165 00:06:21,760 --> 00:06:26,000 Speaker 3: So you say you were vocal and by example, were 166 00:06:26,040 --> 00:06:28,080 Speaker 3: you like first one in, last one out type guy? 167 00:06:28,680 --> 00:06:28,880 Speaker 2: Yeah? 168 00:06:28,960 --> 00:06:31,200 Speaker 5: I kind of picked up that because I was never 169 00:06:31,960 --> 00:06:34,039 Speaker 5: I was always like one of the best athletes. But 170 00:06:34,080 --> 00:06:36,600 Speaker 5: there was always like a more physical freak on the team. 171 00:06:36,640 --> 00:06:38,680 Speaker 5: Like I wasn't like we're all out of bed better 172 00:06:38,720 --> 00:06:41,279 Speaker 5: than everybody. I was like more skilled because I worked 173 00:06:41,320 --> 00:06:44,720 Speaker 5: on it. And I remember my mom would pick me 174 00:06:44,800 --> 00:06:46,320 Speaker 5: up in high school every day after work. My mom 175 00:06:46,360 --> 00:06:48,680 Speaker 5: worked at nine to five, nine to four thirty, and 176 00:06:48,720 --> 00:06:51,160 Speaker 5: she would pick me up at like five o'clock five pm, 177 00:06:51,160 --> 00:06:52,600 Speaker 5: and we would get out of high school at like 178 00:06:53,279 --> 00:06:56,880 Speaker 5: two two thirty. So in football season, obviously had practice 179 00:06:56,880 --> 00:06:58,200 Speaker 5: and my mom would pick me up. But out of 180 00:06:58,200 --> 00:07:01,040 Speaker 5: football basketball season the spring, I had two and a 181 00:07:01,080 --> 00:07:01,960 Speaker 5: half hours to kill. 182 00:07:02,560 --> 00:07:03,920 Speaker 2: You know, I wasn't taking the bus home. 183 00:07:04,360 --> 00:07:08,039 Speaker 5: So I was just literally every day Monday through Friday 184 00:07:08,080 --> 00:07:10,160 Speaker 5: in the weight room, five days a week, lifting for 185 00:07:10,200 --> 00:07:12,920 Speaker 5: an hour or two, going out to the field doing 186 00:07:13,040 --> 00:07:16,120 Speaker 5: just drills that I made up. And then eventually more 187 00:07:16,120 --> 00:07:17,840 Speaker 5: people came out there and I would put a ladder 188 00:07:17,920 --> 00:07:19,520 Speaker 5: drills down, do a drill to drills, and I was like. 189 00:07:19,520 --> 00:07:22,120 Speaker 2: Pretty much running the drills. Yeah, so I was pretty. 190 00:07:21,880 --> 00:07:23,680 Speaker 5: Much coming up with drills that I would see on 191 00:07:24,600 --> 00:07:26,560 Speaker 5: I mean, shoot, even know if YouTube was out back then, 192 00:07:26,600 --> 00:07:29,600 Speaker 5: but whatever I was, I was just finding drills and 193 00:07:29,760 --> 00:07:33,160 Speaker 5: doing them and doing this and that was kind of leadership, right, 194 00:07:33,160 --> 00:07:35,760 Speaker 5: Like I'm doing these these offseason workouts, but I just 195 00:07:35,840 --> 00:07:37,160 Speaker 5: was like waiting for my mom to pick me up. 196 00:07:37,200 --> 00:07:39,760 Speaker 3: Did you have a good relationship with the coaches, because 197 00:07:39,960 --> 00:07:42,160 Speaker 3: it sounds like you love the game games we can 198 00:07:42,200 --> 00:07:44,440 Speaker 3: say games, and you also weren't afraid to put work in. 199 00:07:45,040 --> 00:07:47,040 Speaker 3: Were you the guy that they would lean on high 200 00:07:47,040 --> 00:07:48,360 Speaker 3: school and college to go? 201 00:07:48,480 --> 00:07:50,760 Speaker 2: All right? You got to be the voice to those guys, 202 00:07:50,840 --> 00:07:52,080 Speaker 2: be my voice to them. 203 00:07:52,040 --> 00:07:55,080 Speaker 5: Right, Yeah, I think so, Especially playing the quarterback position 204 00:07:55,120 --> 00:07:57,679 Speaker 5: and stuff. I just think there's certain positions in sports 205 00:07:57,680 --> 00:07:59,560 Speaker 5: where you expect the leader there and I kind of 206 00:07:59,640 --> 00:08:02,240 Speaker 5: was that. So I think it happened naturally mainly because 207 00:08:02,240 --> 00:08:04,200 Speaker 5: of the position I played. But I do remember, like 208 00:08:04,800 --> 00:08:06,960 Speaker 5: my junior sophomore, junior year when I kind of was 209 00:08:06,960 --> 00:08:11,200 Speaker 5: stepping in the role as varsity quarterback and stuff. I 210 00:08:11,320 --> 00:08:13,320 Speaker 5: was not great at pregame speeches, Like I didn't want 211 00:08:13,320 --> 00:08:15,360 Speaker 5: to talk and I felt like a senior should talk, 212 00:08:15,440 --> 00:08:18,200 Speaker 5: you know, before the game. Like I was silent, and 213 00:08:18,320 --> 00:08:20,480 Speaker 5: I would always get really nervous before a game still do, 214 00:08:20,640 --> 00:08:22,559 Speaker 5: Like I always get like a little bit nervous and tense. 215 00:08:23,120 --> 00:08:24,640 Speaker 2: And I just was really really quiet. 216 00:08:24,680 --> 00:08:27,080 Speaker 5: And I feel like that developed more in the NFL 217 00:08:27,120 --> 00:08:29,800 Speaker 5: in college of having the you know, taking public speaking 218 00:08:29,840 --> 00:08:30,680 Speaker 5: classes and whatnot. 219 00:08:30,720 --> 00:08:33,040 Speaker 2: Just having the confidence to go up. 220 00:08:32,960 --> 00:08:35,920 Speaker 5: In front of a room of one hundred people and 221 00:08:36,040 --> 00:08:38,839 Speaker 5: motivate them without feeling like, you know, a clown or 222 00:08:38,880 --> 00:08:40,719 Speaker 5: say something dumb or mess it up, you know, or 223 00:08:40,800 --> 00:08:43,280 Speaker 5: be laughed at. And I just think that came in older, 224 00:08:43,320 --> 00:08:47,840 Speaker 5: like giving actual the speech, but actually just on the field. Yeah, 225 00:08:47,840 --> 00:08:49,280 Speaker 5: when I'm playing in between the lines, you had a 226 00:08:49,360 --> 00:08:50,839 Speaker 5: leadership always came out. 227 00:08:51,080 --> 00:08:54,680 Speaker 3: Were you super educated on what was happening every game? 228 00:08:54,679 --> 00:08:56,319 Speaker 3: Put the time in the film room always? Was that 229 00:08:56,400 --> 00:08:58,040 Speaker 3: a priority? Or did you have to learn how. 230 00:08:57,920 --> 00:09:01,160 Speaker 2: To do that later? I learnedarn how to I learned 231 00:09:01,200 --> 00:09:02,079 Speaker 2: how to do that later. 232 00:09:02,320 --> 00:09:05,400 Speaker 5: But growing up, my dad coached me when I was little, 233 00:09:06,120 --> 00:09:09,160 Speaker 5: maybe up till I don't know, ten eleven years old. 234 00:09:09,559 --> 00:09:12,439 Speaker 5: And every year, like I said, I played, I played 235 00:09:12,440 --> 00:09:14,920 Speaker 5: offense and I played defense so I didn't come off 236 00:09:14,960 --> 00:09:17,480 Speaker 5: the field, and I swear every year he made me 237 00:09:17,520 --> 00:09:19,560 Speaker 5: change positions. He's like, all right, well last year receiver, 238 00:09:19,600 --> 00:09:21,439 Speaker 5: this year gonna play run out to learn, yeah, and 239 00:09:21,440 --> 00:09:22,720 Speaker 5: then this year're gonna do this And then We had 240 00:09:22,720 --> 00:09:25,360 Speaker 5: a really good team in like eighth grade, and we 241 00:09:25,400 --> 00:09:28,320 Speaker 5: went in literally we went like unscored upon, Like we 242 00:09:28,360 --> 00:09:31,880 Speaker 5: beat everybody thirty five to nothing and didn't give up 243 00:09:31,880 --> 00:09:34,280 Speaker 5: a point the entire season. And on that team, we 244 00:09:34,320 --> 00:09:36,840 Speaker 5: had like three NFL players in like six Division one 245 00:09:36,880 --> 00:09:38,920 Speaker 5: wrestlers out of like eleven starters, like nine of us 246 00:09:38,920 --> 00:09:39,839 Speaker 5: went to college for sports. 247 00:09:39,840 --> 00:09:41,120 Speaker 2: So it was a really good team. 248 00:09:41,440 --> 00:09:44,520 Speaker 5: But in the second half, my dad would make all 249 00:09:44,559 --> 00:09:46,480 Speaker 5: the skill players play a line and get the old 250 00:09:46,480 --> 00:09:49,280 Speaker 5: lineman the ball so that they, you know, we would 251 00:09:49,280 --> 00:09:51,440 Speaker 5: block for them. Yeah, you know, and I just felt 252 00:09:51,480 --> 00:09:54,760 Speaker 5: like why are we doing this? You know, But like 253 00:09:55,000 --> 00:09:57,160 Speaker 5: I love my old lineman, you know, I always treat 254 00:09:57,200 --> 00:09:59,840 Speaker 5: them well, and I understood what it was like to block. 255 00:10:00,000 --> 00:10:02,560 Speaker 5: I played tight end, I played receiver, I played running back, 256 00:10:02,559 --> 00:10:05,880 Speaker 5: I played quarterback, I played corner, I played safety, and 257 00:10:05,960 --> 00:10:08,360 Speaker 5: really in the NFL really helped my versatility because I 258 00:10:08,440 --> 00:10:10,360 Speaker 5: learned the game from so many different angles and even 259 00:10:10,400 --> 00:10:12,440 Speaker 5: when I played defense in the NFL, I think but 260 00:10:12,480 --> 00:10:14,880 Speaker 5: from like a reverse quarterback perspective, like Okay, what is 261 00:10:14,880 --> 00:10:16,880 Speaker 5: he reading? He's probably gonna throw this because I'm showing 262 00:10:16,920 --> 00:10:17,240 Speaker 5: him that. 263 00:10:17,280 --> 00:10:20,480 Speaker 3: It's like you're reverse engineering. Yeah, what exactly you think 264 00:10:20,520 --> 00:10:21,200 Speaker 3: is about to happen? 265 00:10:21,400 --> 00:10:22,000 Speaker 2: Yeah? Dang. 266 00:10:22,200 --> 00:10:24,160 Speaker 3: So when you're in high school you play quarterback? Did 267 00:10:24,200 --> 00:10:25,920 Speaker 3: you just were you recruited as a quarterback? 268 00:10:26,440 --> 00:10:29,640 Speaker 5: So that was back before they wanted like, you know, 269 00:10:30,400 --> 00:10:33,160 Speaker 5: six foot black quarterbacks running around the NFL like that's 270 00:10:33,200 --> 00:10:34,160 Speaker 5: not the just the norm. 271 00:10:34,240 --> 00:10:35,760 Speaker 3: Now did you feel like because you were a six 272 00:10:35,800 --> 00:10:38,200 Speaker 3: foot black quarterback that was actually held against you, Well. 273 00:10:38,080 --> 00:10:39,760 Speaker 5: They're going to recruit you as an athlete. So what 274 00:10:39,800 --> 00:10:43,760 Speaker 5: happens is there? Like everybody like, like I would say, 275 00:10:43,760 --> 00:10:47,080 Speaker 5: half of you know, college football players probably played quarterback 276 00:10:47,120 --> 00:10:48,680 Speaker 5: when they were growing up because they're the best player 277 00:10:48,720 --> 00:10:50,600 Speaker 5: and they want the ball in their hands. But back then, 278 00:10:50,600 --> 00:10:52,480 Speaker 5: they would say you're going to be a receiver, or 279 00:10:52,559 --> 00:10:54,559 Speaker 5: you're gonna be a corner, or you're gonna be a safety. 280 00:10:55,000 --> 00:10:57,560 Speaker 5: So I knew, like looking ahead, like, yeah, I'm probably 281 00:10:57,559 --> 00:10:59,440 Speaker 5: gonna end up being a corner. And I played corner 282 00:10:59,520 --> 00:11:01,760 Speaker 5: as well, and I was ranked pretty high in New 283 00:11:01,840 --> 00:11:04,000 Speaker 5: Jersey for it, so I kind of knew already what 284 00:11:04,080 --> 00:11:06,880 Speaker 5: it was, but they did. You just didn't have the 285 00:11:06,920 --> 00:11:10,000 Speaker 5: opportunities division one to be like, oh, you're five eleven 286 00:11:10,040 --> 00:11:13,240 Speaker 5: and a half and you know you're a great athlete, 287 00:11:13,280 --> 00:11:15,320 Speaker 5: We're gonna make you play a different position, like quarterback 288 00:11:15,360 --> 00:11:18,240 Speaker 5: is for these type of guys. Six foot four, white, 289 00:11:18,640 --> 00:11:20,480 Speaker 5: two hundred and twenty five pound guys. 290 00:11:20,480 --> 00:11:20,680 Speaker 4: You know. 291 00:11:20,720 --> 00:11:23,920 Speaker 5: But now the NFL, as you see, has caught up 292 00:11:24,880 --> 00:11:29,120 Speaker 5: and Bryce Young, Yeah, Bryce Young, Kyler Murray's five nine, 293 00:11:29,160 --> 00:11:32,640 Speaker 5: No these dudes. I I remember hosting the draft in 294 00:11:32,720 --> 00:11:35,000 Speaker 5: Nashville when they had the draft in Nashville a couple 295 00:11:35,000 --> 00:11:37,000 Speaker 5: of years ago, and I was actually working in media 296 00:11:37,040 --> 00:11:38,800 Speaker 5: and I was on the red carpet hosting these guys, 297 00:11:39,160 --> 00:11:42,400 Speaker 5: and I'm like, Quinn Williams, lift the mic up and 298 00:11:42,920 --> 00:11:45,560 Speaker 5: DJ DK Metcalf lift the mic way up, and like 299 00:11:45,679 --> 00:11:48,600 Speaker 5: Kyler Murray put the mic Like I'm like, this guy 300 00:11:48,720 --> 00:11:49,760 Speaker 5: is little, I mean. 301 00:11:49,720 --> 00:11:51,240 Speaker 2: Little hands, little arms. 302 00:11:51,360 --> 00:11:53,600 Speaker 5: Yeah, but he's specially in his skill set and he 303 00:11:53,600 --> 00:11:55,880 Speaker 5: had They never made him switch positions, but a lot 304 00:11:55,920 --> 00:11:57,600 Speaker 5: of a lot of us they they were like, yeah, 305 00:11:57,800 --> 00:11:59,240 Speaker 5: I don't know if you're gonna go to Division one 306 00:11:59,240 --> 00:12:00,920 Speaker 5: and play what star. 307 00:12:00,800 --> 00:12:02,720 Speaker 2: Were you recruit? I was a four star recruit, And 308 00:12:02,760 --> 00:12:06,200 Speaker 2: what is life like as a four star recruit? It's 309 00:12:06,240 --> 00:12:07,880 Speaker 2: gotta be pretty Yeah, man, it was. I mean it's 310 00:12:07,880 --> 00:12:08,480 Speaker 2: gotta be good. 311 00:12:08,600 --> 00:12:11,559 Speaker 5: So I was really a three star coming out and 312 00:12:11,920 --> 00:12:15,600 Speaker 5: for most of it, and then I think the ranking guy, 313 00:12:16,240 --> 00:12:18,800 Speaker 5: Rivals ranking guy comes to check out one of my 314 00:12:18,840 --> 00:12:21,200 Speaker 5: games my senior year, and I was already committed to Rutgers, 315 00:12:21,200 --> 00:12:23,080 Speaker 5: so I like had twenty five scholars and. 316 00:12:23,320 --> 00:12:24,679 Speaker 2: Play safety or what. At the time, We're you going 317 00:12:24,720 --> 00:12:26,000 Speaker 2: to Rutgers to do? What though? I was going to 318 00:12:26,080 --> 00:12:26,880 Speaker 2: Rutgers to play corner. 319 00:12:26,960 --> 00:12:28,319 Speaker 5: Okay, I was a number one corner in the Stay 320 00:12:28,320 --> 00:12:30,680 Speaker 5: of New Jersey, and I was like one of the 321 00:12:30,679 --> 00:12:31,480 Speaker 5: better quarterbacks. 322 00:12:31,480 --> 00:12:33,360 Speaker 2: But I was a number one at that position, got it. 323 00:12:33,880 --> 00:12:38,079 Speaker 5: And I was a three star committed to Rutgers verbally 324 00:12:38,160 --> 00:12:38,920 Speaker 5: and all that stuff. 325 00:12:39,120 --> 00:12:40,520 Speaker 2: And then we play. 326 00:12:40,679 --> 00:12:42,640 Speaker 5: We play the opening game and he comes to see 327 00:12:43,040 --> 00:12:44,800 Speaker 5: our game play and I get a pick six, like 328 00:12:44,840 --> 00:12:49,599 Speaker 5: on the first possession of the game, and literally reverse engineering. 329 00:12:49,880 --> 00:12:52,360 Speaker 5: The coach told me, if you see the quarterback roll out, 330 00:12:53,200 --> 00:12:55,120 Speaker 5: you know it's going to be a hitch, a rout 331 00:12:55,160 --> 00:12:56,520 Speaker 5: in front of and a rout behind you. Just bait 332 00:12:56,559 --> 00:12:58,360 Speaker 5: the route behind you. And every time they roll out 333 00:12:58,400 --> 00:12:59,880 Speaker 5: there on the same play. So the first play the game, 334 00:13:00,160 --> 00:13:02,319 Speaker 5: the rollout, I see the route behind me, I act 335 00:13:02,440 --> 00:13:03,760 Speaker 5: like I'm going to go get the route behind me, 336 00:13:03,840 --> 00:13:05,520 Speaker 5: and I just bade him. He throws around in front 337 00:13:05,520 --> 00:13:07,840 Speaker 5: of me eighty yard pick six to start my senior year, 338 00:13:08,480 --> 00:13:13,880 Speaker 5: and that night I got a four star, right being 339 00:13:14,000 --> 00:13:17,079 Speaker 5: four star. So what happens Notre Dame calls me, Miami 340 00:13:17,120 --> 00:13:18,120 Speaker 5: calls me, Penn State. 341 00:13:17,960 --> 00:13:21,600 Speaker 2: Calls from that that one star. Oh, now he's this 342 00:13:21,679 --> 00:13:22,000 Speaker 2: level of. 343 00:13:22,000 --> 00:13:24,000 Speaker 5: Recruit and they're like, oh, you don't want to go 344 00:13:24,000 --> 00:13:25,360 Speaker 5: to Rutgers, come here, come. 345 00:13:25,240 --> 00:13:28,040 Speaker 3: There crazy that it wasn't some tape that it wasn't 346 00:13:28,040 --> 00:13:30,959 Speaker 3: like a library of tape on you that changed their mind. 347 00:13:31,000 --> 00:13:33,480 Speaker 3: It was literally a recruiting service. One guy who saw 348 00:13:33,520 --> 00:13:36,880 Speaker 3: one game, yeah and wow, and new colleges come. It's lazy. 349 00:13:36,920 --> 00:13:37,679 Speaker 3: Recruiting is lazy. 350 00:13:37,720 --> 00:13:40,720 Speaker 5: What happens is a lot of states out of state 351 00:13:40,760 --> 00:13:42,760 Speaker 5: teams like Alabama is not going to come to New 352 00:13:42,840 --> 00:13:45,960 Speaker 5: Jersey unless one you're offered by your New Jersey school. 353 00:13:46,040 --> 00:13:47,560 Speaker 2: So they're going to let Rutgers do the work. 354 00:13:47,920 --> 00:13:50,880 Speaker 5: Once Rutgers does the work, all the other big East 355 00:13:50,880 --> 00:13:53,120 Speaker 5: schools at the time, right it was West Virginia, it 356 00:13:53,120 --> 00:13:55,680 Speaker 5: was whatever. So they're like, Okay, this guy, obviously Rutgers 357 00:13:55,720 --> 00:13:58,240 Speaker 5: identified them. So now your conference is going to start 358 00:13:58,240 --> 00:14:00,719 Speaker 5: recruiting you, and they start offering you. And then once 359 00:14:00,760 --> 00:14:02,720 Speaker 5: your whole conference offers you, and then you get that 360 00:14:02,800 --> 00:14:05,120 Speaker 5: fourth star, then you become a national recruit. Now coaches 361 00:14:05,120 --> 00:14:08,199 Speaker 5: are jetting to your field, your high school and landing 362 00:14:08,240 --> 00:14:10,000 Speaker 5: on the thing and trying to and that's why you 363 00:14:10,000 --> 00:14:12,240 Speaker 5: see guys flip recruitment. So I mean, now they're getting paid, 364 00:14:12,240 --> 00:14:16,760 Speaker 5: but they flip recruitment so much because one thing changed. 365 00:14:16,800 --> 00:14:20,720 Speaker 5: Who came that was cool, I would say Greg Shianno, 366 00:14:20,720 --> 00:14:23,280 Speaker 5: when Rutgers recruited me, they put out all the stops. 367 00:14:23,280 --> 00:14:27,360 Speaker 5: He landed a helicopter on a local hospital and so 368 00:14:27,440 --> 00:14:31,520 Speaker 5: he flew a helicopter in to see me. I think 369 00:14:31,920 --> 00:14:35,720 Speaker 5: Iowa was super dope. Michigan State was cool. But Rutgers, 370 00:14:35,760 --> 00:14:38,280 Speaker 5: I mean they sent people to my grandmother's funeral. My 371 00:14:38,280 --> 00:14:40,720 Speaker 5: grandmother passed away. They had people at the funeral. They 372 00:14:40,760 --> 00:14:42,360 Speaker 5: were work, They had a Bible in front of my mom. 373 00:14:42,400 --> 00:14:44,240 Speaker 5: They won a whole different angle at my dad. I 374 00:14:44,240 --> 00:14:46,680 Speaker 5: mean they were they were pulling every stop like to 375 00:14:46,920 --> 00:14:47,920 Speaker 5: to get me to stay. 376 00:14:48,040 --> 00:14:49,600 Speaker 3: I feel like if I was on a jury or 377 00:14:49,600 --> 00:14:51,840 Speaker 3: if I was being recruited, I just flip all the time. 378 00:14:51,880 --> 00:14:54,240 Speaker 2: I mean like, oh, that's great, I'm here. Oh that's great. 379 00:14:54,280 --> 00:14:56,840 Speaker 2: Guilty Oh no, not guilty Michigan State. 380 00:14:56,880 --> 00:14:59,000 Speaker 3: I feel like I'll be doing that like crazy, because 381 00:14:59,000 --> 00:15:00,800 Speaker 3: I'm sure everybody's giving you their best effort. 382 00:15:00,840 --> 00:15:01,640 Speaker 2: They're showing you that. 383 00:15:02,080 --> 00:15:04,520 Speaker 3: Like you know, Chris Rock talks about dating somebody knew, 384 00:15:04,520 --> 00:15:05,760 Speaker 3: and he's like, you know, you don't really meet me, 385 00:15:05,840 --> 00:15:07,600 Speaker 3: you meet my representative when you you know, it's the 386 00:15:07,640 --> 00:15:09,880 Speaker 3: early version, but it's the best version of the school 387 00:15:09,880 --> 00:15:10,360 Speaker 3: in every way. 388 00:15:10,440 --> 00:15:12,360 Speaker 2: Like, aren't they all just awesome when you do that? 389 00:15:12,640 --> 00:15:15,280 Speaker 5: They they like really recruit your parents. I came from 390 00:15:15,280 --> 00:15:18,040 Speaker 5: a two parent background, super solid. My dad was a cop, 391 00:15:18,240 --> 00:15:20,120 Speaker 5: was a cop. My mom worked, like I said, a 392 00:15:20,200 --> 00:15:23,200 Speaker 5: nine to five. So they really had my parents on lock. 393 00:15:23,520 --> 00:15:25,040 Speaker 5: But looking back at I'm like, man, I should have 394 00:15:25,040 --> 00:15:27,760 Speaker 5: took that official visit to Hawaii. That's a great flight, 395 00:15:27,840 --> 00:15:29,400 Speaker 5: great trip. Should have went out there. Maybe I should 396 00:15:29,440 --> 00:15:31,840 Speaker 5: take that LV That would have been a fun little vagae. 397 00:15:31,840 --> 00:15:34,000 Speaker 3: What we should do on a on an official visit, 398 00:15:34,080 --> 00:15:36,960 Speaker 3: like you land? Yeah, just a brief discris, I have 399 00:15:37,000 --> 00:15:39,800 Speaker 3: no idea. You land, then, what what happens? Wh who's there? 400 00:15:39,840 --> 00:15:40,920 Speaker 3: What's the daylight. 401 00:15:41,240 --> 00:15:45,960 Speaker 5: So you land, you'll be red carpeted, black car picked up, 402 00:15:46,040 --> 00:15:50,440 Speaker 5: go to the school. All the coaches will be there, excited, balloons, 403 00:15:50,520 --> 00:15:51,240 Speaker 5: catered food. 404 00:15:51,680 --> 00:15:52,320 Speaker 2: And then New York. 405 00:15:53,080 --> 00:15:56,280 Speaker 5: Rutgers's whole pitch was, we're gonna send you to New York. 406 00:15:56,360 --> 00:15:57,880 Speaker 5: So you take the train. In New York, they runt 407 00:15:57,920 --> 00:16:00,160 Speaker 5: it out like a Dave and Busters and like Times Square. 408 00:16:00,320 --> 00:16:02,200 Speaker 5: So you're in Times Square, You're like, I gotta rent 409 00:16:02,200 --> 00:16:05,000 Speaker 5: it out, David Busters. You're playing games. They're talking like, yeah, 410 00:16:05,040 --> 00:16:07,520 Speaker 5: you're gonna like we have these mccordy twins and they're 411 00:16:07,520 --> 00:16:10,040 Speaker 5: all right, but you're gonna come in and you're gonna 412 00:16:10,040 --> 00:16:12,280 Speaker 5: play over them and like all this. But I knew 413 00:16:12,280 --> 00:16:13,680 Speaker 5: they were on their way out. I was gonna fill 414 00:16:13,680 --> 00:16:15,560 Speaker 5: in the next shows. But they're like, yeah, they're okay. 415 00:16:15,680 --> 00:16:18,280 Speaker 5: But Jason McCarty, this guy, I mean, he can't even 416 00:16:18,320 --> 00:16:19,000 Speaker 5: get an interception. 417 00:16:19,720 --> 00:16:22,000 Speaker 2: Look at me, you had six interceptions last year. We 418 00:16:22,040 --> 00:16:24,080 Speaker 2: need you, right, So they tell you what you want 419 00:16:24,080 --> 00:16:24,360 Speaker 2: to hear. 420 00:16:24,480 --> 00:16:27,080 Speaker 5: And then we got back on the train to Rutgers 421 00:16:27,120 --> 00:16:29,160 Speaker 5: and the coaches leave, and then you're paired with a player. 422 00:16:29,840 --> 00:16:32,040 Speaker 2: So I didn't have them mccordy twins had. 423 00:16:32,200 --> 00:16:33,720 Speaker 5: I had a kid that was actually on my little 424 00:16:33,760 --> 00:16:35,560 Speaker 5: league team that I told you about that we like 425 00:16:35,560 --> 00:16:38,680 Speaker 5: went undefeated or whatever. So I knew him since we 426 00:16:38,680 --> 00:16:40,520 Speaker 5: were kids. So he kind of hosted me, and that's 427 00:16:40,520 --> 00:16:42,000 Speaker 5: your host, and they gave me why they gave you 428 00:16:42,040 --> 00:16:43,920 Speaker 5: him right right, because we knew each other. So then 429 00:16:44,000 --> 00:16:45,560 Speaker 5: so then I got one of my best friends already 430 00:16:45,600 --> 00:16:45,960 Speaker 5: there and. 431 00:16:45,920 --> 00:16:46,840 Speaker 2: He's like whatever. 432 00:16:47,080 --> 00:16:49,200 Speaker 5: And then they gave your host like one hundred bucks 433 00:16:49,400 --> 00:16:51,640 Speaker 5: and he's supposed to take you to a party and 434 00:16:51,720 --> 00:16:53,960 Speaker 5: take you and he was like, look, man, I'm keeping 435 00:16:53,960 --> 00:16:56,480 Speaker 5: fifty of these bucks, like you got fifty you know. 436 00:16:56,760 --> 00:16:58,880 Speaker 5: So and then you know, they try to show you 437 00:16:58,960 --> 00:17:01,360 Speaker 5: girls and try to give you a good night and 438 00:17:01,400 --> 00:17:06,000 Speaker 5: then but the worst part is when you're when you're 439 00:17:06,040 --> 00:17:08,280 Speaker 5: a host, you have practice the next day. I'm like, 440 00:17:08,320 --> 00:17:10,520 Speaker 5: I'm not partying with this freaking sixteen year old kid, 441 00:17:10,560 --> 00:17:12,159 Speaker 5: seventeen year old kid all night and I gotta wake 442 00:17:12,240 --> 00:17:14,960 Speaker 5: up at seven am and run sprints, Like I kept 443 00:17:15,000 --> 00:17:15,680 Speaker 5: that hundred bucks. 444 00:17:15,800 --> 00:17:17,119 Speaker 2: I bet some people do, though, I bet they go 445 00:17:17,160 --> 00:17:19,040 Speaker 2: hard and then go to I mean it's just so yeah, 446 00:17:19,040 --> 00:17:21,280 Speaker 2: when you're younger, you can do it yeah, so you 447 00:17:21,800 --> 00:17:22,720 Speaker 2: when you get to Rutgers. 448 00:17:23,480 --> 00:17:25,880 Speaker 3: Is the speed of the game so much different going 449 00:17:26,000 --> 00:17:28,760 Speaker 3: high school to college or college to the pros? When 450 00:17:28,800 --> 00:17:31,520 Speaker 3: does it adjust so much that you're like, okay, hold on, 451 00:17:31,760 --> 00:17:32,679 Speaker 3: let me get you straight. 452 00:17:33,800 --> 00:17:36,720 Speaker 5: I think the speed of the game, because everyone comes 453 00:17:36,720 --> 00:17:38,639 Speaker 5: from different high school. You come from some country school 454 00:17:38,640 --> 00:17:40,600 Speaker 5: where I mean you got you know, eight on eight 455 00:17:41,040 --> 00:17:43,919 Speaker 5: football whatever in the middle of Nevada or something. But 456 00:17:44,359 --> 00:17:46,400 Speaker 5: I think the speed of the game is a bigger difference. 457 00:17:46,600 --> 00:17:48,359 Speaker 5: I think the coaching was a bigger difference for me 458 00:17:48,400 --> 00:17:50,840 Speaker 5: because Greg Seana was such a tough coach for me, 459 00:17:51,040 --> 00:17:52,919 Speaker 5: and I wasn't used to getting yelled at or just 460 00:17:52,960 --> 00:17:56,040 Speaker 5: like negativity shouting my way or getting cussed at, like 461 00:17:56,080 --> 00:17:56,760 Speaker 5: I wasn't used to. 462 00:17:56,840 --> 00:17:58,720 Speaker 2: I'm like, whoa, this is kind of hard environment for 463 00:17:58,720 --> 00:17:59,359 Speaker 2: me to thrive in. 464 00:17:59,880 --> 00:18:01,840 Speaker 5: So I think that was the biggest shock for me, 465 00:18:03,040 --> 00:18:05,800 Speaker 5: the speed and just the coaching because as soon as 466 00:18:05,840 --> 00:18:08,800 Speaker 5: you commit and day one practice stars, all that recruitings 467 00:18:08,840 --> 00:18:11,080 Speaker 5: out the window, like now I own it, and it 468 00:18:11,119 --> 00:18:13,800 Speaker 5: really felt like military. I feel like like a military academy. 469 00:18:13,840 --> 00:18:16,040 Speaker 5: It was that strict in discipline at Rutgers with him, 470 00:18:16,600 --> 00:18:20,120 Speaker 5: and you know, well, then I went to the NFL. 471 00:18:20,280 --> 00:18:23,399 Speaker 5: I came from that academy mindset, so like the discipline 472 00:18:23,440 --> 00:18:26,640 Speaker 5: was there, no one could do anything I haven't done already, 473 00:18:26,720 --> 00:18:29,159 Speaker 5: Like I've been through tougher workout. So now it's all 474 00:18:29,200 --> 00:18:32,680 Speaker 5: about execution and just skill, like we need you here 475 00:18:32,680 --> 00:18:34,480 Speaker 5: at your job to do it and use way more. 476 00:18:34,520 --> 00:18:35,480 Speaker 2: It's way more efficient. 477 00:18:35,880 --> 00:18:38,080 Speaker 3: The first time you go to a college practice and 478 00:18:38,080 --> 00:18:40,800 Speaker 3: it's actually full pads, what does that feel like? 479 00:18:40,920 --> 00:18:43,840 Speaker 2: Oh? I have so many stories, man. 480 00:18:44,000 --> 00:18:49,000 Speaker 5: The first college practice, so practice is is based on 481 00:18:49,040 --> 00:18:50,960 Speaker 5: what they call periods, and they blow the whistle in 482 00:18:51,000 --> 00:18:54,680 Speaker 5: a periods five minutes. So a practice could be I 483 00:18:54,720 --> 00:18:56,200 Speaker 5: don't want to stay and get butchered on math. But 484 00:18:56,240 --> 00:18:58,280 Speaker 5: a practice can be twenty periods you do the math, 485 00:18:58,400 --> 00:19:01,920 Speaker 5: or fifteen periods or twelve or twenty four whatever, two 486 00:19:01,920 --> 00:19:05,560 Speaker 5: hour practice whatever. Our first practice was thirty six periods. 487 00:19:05,720 --> 00:19:08,560 Speaker 5: It was like over three hours. It was in middle 488 00:19:08,560 --> 00:19:10,840 Speaker 5: of July in New Jersey. It was really hot and 489 00:19:10,920 --> 00:19:13,200 Speaker 5: human on the field. I had brand new cleats. When 490 00:19:13,200 --> 00:19:16,320 Speaker 5: I was getting blisters, they made everyone tape your ankles mandatory, 491 00:19:16,720 --> 00:19:18,639 Speaker 5: have to tape. I never taped my ankles before, so 492 00:19:18,720 --> 00:19:21,680 Speaker 5: my ankles were stiff, my cleat's hurt. And then Giano 493 00:19:21,680 --> 00:19:23,119 Speaker 5: had a rule you weren't allowed to take your helmet 494 00:19:23,160 --> 00:19:25,679 Speaker 5: off at any point in the practice, so I couldn't 495 00:19:25,680 --> 00:19:27,399 Speaker 5: even take my helmet off to get water. So I 496 00:19:27,400 --> 00:19:30,080 Speaker 5: had to like get water through my helmet. And I 497 00:19:30,200 --> 00:19:33,600 Speaker 5: just was so just equipment, uncomfortable, not used to practicing 498 00:19:33,640 --> 00:19:35,920 Speaker 5: that long. It just was all like all the little 499 00:19:35,960 --> 00:19:37,840 Speaker 5: things I guess that you're just supposed to ignore that 500 00:19:37,840 --> 00:19:40,000 Speaker 5: I got don't even bother me. Now they all bothered 501 00:19:40,040 --> 00:19:42,920 Speaker 5: me so much. Like at first, it was a huge adjustment. 502 00:19:43,040 --> 00:19:45,400 Speaker 3: When you're eighteen, you're hitting twenty two twenty three year 503 00:19:45,400 --> 00:19:51,280 Speaker 3: old dudes, I assume that's physically a lot more taxing 504 00:19:51,359 --> 00:19:53,280 Speaker 3: on you than seventeen hit and eighteen you know high 505 00:19:53,320 --> 00:19:55,200 Speaker 3: school like it's young. 506 00:19:55,680 --> 00:19:58,880 Speaker 2: It's an older kid versus men. Yeah, yeah, now it's 507 00:19:58,880 --> 00:19:59,920 Speaker 2: a big jump. It's hard. 508 00:20:00,320 --> 00:20:02,000 Speaker 5: If you see guys that come in to college, true 509 00:20:02,000 --> 00:20:04,720 Speaker 5: freshmen and dominate like that, that's tough because of physical aspect. 510 00:20:04,760 --> 00:20:07,080 Speaker 5: Like these guys in college you're lifting and running your 511 00:20:07,520 --> 00:20:10,280 Speaker 5: butt off like you are working. They're where you had 512 00:20:10,280 --> 00:20:12,159 Speaker 5: nothing else to do, their owning you. They work you. 513 00:20:12,240 --> 00:20:15,080 Speaker 5: So I came in one hundred and seventy five pounds. 514 00:20:15,160 --> 00:20:16,960 Speaker 5: I red shirted, so I was the number one corner 515 00:20:16,960 --> 00:20:18,760 Speaker 5: in the state, a four star going to Rutgers that 516 00:20:18,800 --> 00:20:21,239 Speaker 5: wasn't the greatest school in that recruited me. So I'm 517 00:20:21,240 --> 00:20:23,240 Speaker 5: supposed to come in and be a savior type of thing, 518 00:20:23,680 --> 00:20:26,240 Speaker 5: replace the mccordy twins. And I red shirted like I 519 00:20:26,280 --> 00:20:29,600 Speaker 5: got crushed by all expectation pressure. And I came in 520 00:20:29,600 --> 00:20:31,159 Speaker 5: one hundred and seventy five pounds, and I was one 521 00:20:31,200 --> 00:20:34,120 Speaker 5: hundred and ninety five pounds in less than a year. 522 00:20:34,160 --> 00:20:36,520 Speaker 5: I put on twenty pounds of muscle. I couldn't even 523 00:20:36,560 --> 00:20:39,080 Speaker 5: dunk a basketball anymore because you had put on some much, 524 00:20:39,240 --> 00:20:41,040 Speaker 5: so much weight. I wasn't even used to carrying that weight. 525 00:20:41,080 --> 00:20:43,040 Speaker 5: I'm one hundred and ninety four pounds at thirty two 526 00:20:43,119 --> 00:20:47,400 Speaker 5: years old. So in the last whatever fourteen to fifteen years, 527 00:20:47,440 --> 00:20:50,280 Speaker 5: I didn't gain one pounds, right, I just but I 528 00:20:50,320 --> 00:20:52,760 Speaker 5: put on twenty pounds in one year of muscle. I'm 529 00:20:52,800 --> 00:20:55,280 Speaker 5: squatting four hundred and fifty pounds. I'm power cleaning over 530 00:20:55,320 --> 00:20:56,000 Speaker 5: three hundred. 531 00:20:55,760 --> 00:20:56,840 Speaker 2: Pounds, and that's what they want. 532 00:20:56,880 --> 00:20:59,879 Speaker 3: Oh they were lifting? Yeah, And are your feelings at 533 00:20:59,920 --> 00:21:01,040 Speaker 3: the you have to red shirt? When did they tell 534 00:21:01,040 --> 00:21:02,520 Speaker 3: you that? Or is this something that that happens in 535 00:21:02,560 --> 00:21:04,040 Speaker 3: game three when you haven't played at all. 536 00:21:04,920 --> 00:21:07,119 Speaker 5: So I kind of like I had like a little 537 00:21:07,160 --> 00:21:09,680 Speaker 5: back injury and just had a rough start to it, 538 00:21:09,920 --> 00:21:11,840 Speaker 5: and it kind of was like, Hey, you're either gonna 539 00:21:11,880 --> 00:21:14,280 Speaker 5: play special teams this year or we can red shirt you. 540 00:21:14,680 --> 00:21:16,080 Speaker 2: So I was like, yeah, I'm like I'm not going 541 00:21:16,160 --> 00:21:17,879 Speaker 2: to waste a year just playing special team. So I 542 00:21:17,920 --> 00:21:18,359 Speaker 2: red shirted. 543 00:21:18,359 --> 00:21:21,040 Speaker 5: But he Giano used to red shirt like the entire 544 00:21:21,080 --> 00:21:23,760 Speaker 5: classes because he won an older team. So I think 545 00:21:24,359 --> 00:21:27,880 Speaker 5: out of our true freshman class we had twenty five commits, 546 00:21:28,000 --> 00:21:30,400 Speaker 5: twenty five guys on full rides and not counting walk ons, 547 00:21:30,920 --> 00:21:33,680 Speaker 5: I would say he probably played four or five guys 548 00:21:33,720 --> 00:21:36,200 Speaker 5: twenty of us red shirted. He just wanted to backload 549 00:21:36,200 --> 00:21:38,040 Speaker 5: the whole roster like that, right, So now a senior 550 00:21:38,080 --> 00:21:40,480 Speaker 5: class or fifth year seniors that are twenty two to 551 00:21:40,520 --> 00:21:44,280 Speaker 5: twenty three years old. So that just was like if 552 00:21:44,320 --> 00:21:47,000 Speaker 5: you weren't a super phenomenal right away, he was, you're 553 00:21:47,000 --> 00:21:47,680 Speaker 5: gonna red shirt? 554 00:21:48,359 --> 00:21:49,640 Speaker 2: What year did you leave college? 555 00:21:50,280 --> 00:21:52,199 Speaker 5: So I actually left as a red shirt junior, So 556 00:21:52,240 --> 00:21:55,280 Speaker 5: I left early. I got it together and I took off. 557 00:21:55,320 --> 00:21:55,840 Speaker 5: So I left. 558 00:21:55,960 --> 00:21:57,879 Speaker 2: So your red shirt year than your two years. 559 00:21:58,000 --> 00:22:01,000 Speaker 5: I red shirted, had a red shirt freshman sophomore, then 560 00:22:01,000 --> 00:22:03,120 Speaker 5: I left at the I almost left after a red 561 00:22:03,119 --> 00:22:04,960 Speaker 5: shirt sophomore year, but I left after my red shirt 562 00:22:05,040 --> 00:22:05,600 Speaker 5: junion got it. 563 00:22:05,560 --> 00:22:08,200 Speaker 2: It was my fourth year. So you go and you 564 00:22:08,800 --> 00:22:11,080 Speaker 2: I was reading some of your because it still exists, 565 00:22:11,080 --> 00:22:13,439 Speaker 2: the draft stuff or like this is his peak, this 566 00:22:13,520 --> 00:22:15,919 Speaker 2: is what we think his ceiling is. Did you ever 567 00:22:15,960 --> 00:22:17,080 Speaker 2: read that stuff back then too? 568 00:22:17,119 --> 00:22:18,560 Speaker 5: I don't, I mean I don't. I don't know what 569 00:22:18,560 --> 00:22:20,120 Speaker 5: they wrote about me, but I can probably could tell 570 00:22:20,119 --> 00:22:21,000 Speaker 5: you what it was. 571 00:22:21,160 --> 00:22:24,120 Speaker 2: But yeah, so, I. 572 00:22:24,080 --> 00:22:27,119 Speaker 3: Mean, so they would they do compare a certain player 573 00:22:27,160 --> 00:22:31,840 Speaker 3: compare they're like at his ceiling, not quite Palamalu, but 574 00:22:31,920 --> 00:22:32,680 Speaker 3: you know, and they're doing it. 575 00:22:33,040 --> 00:22:34,800 Speaker 2: So who did they compare you to? In college? 576 00:22:34,880 --> 00:22:36,879 Speaker 3: Just when you would talk to folks and they'd be like, oh, 577 00:22:36,920 --> 00:22:38,200 Speaker 3: we get to kind of see you being this type 578 00:22:38,200 --> 00:22:39,040 Speaker 3: of player in the NFL. 579 00:22:40,680 --> 00:22:42,439 Speaker 5: So I don't know if there was an exact like 580 00:22:42,600 --> 00:22:45,719 Speaker 5: ceiling comp that I knew in the NFL at the moment. 581 00:22:47,040 --> 00:22:49,920 Speaker 5: But my biggest thing is like I was super smart 582 00:22:50,200 --> 00:22:53,520 Speaker 5: and tough and productive, like I had some of the 583 00:22:53,520 --> 00:22:56,399 Speaker 5: most productive stats, like I was second in Biggie's history 584 00:22:56,960 --> 00:22:59,520 Speaker 5: in past breakups, ahead of Devin mccordy, behind to Roll 585 00:22:59,600 --> 00:23:00,919 Speaker 5: Reeves by like a couple. 586 00:23:01,080 --> 00:23:03,360 Speaker 3: And do you think that's because of your athletic ability 587 00:23:03,600 --> 00:23:06,040 Speaker 3: or because you your instincts? 588 00:23:06,240 --> 00:23:09,439 Speaker 2: Instincts and studying was so good instincts and studying. 589 00:23:09,440 --> 00:23:12,280 Speaker 5: Once I figured out the game, I would say half 590 00:23:12,280 --> 00:23:14,560 Speaker 5: the time now in the NFL, I played plays over 591 00:23:14,560 --> 00:23:18,480 Speaker 5: players like I don't care, like Julio is one of 592 00:23:18,480 --> 00:23:19,080 Speaker 5: my good friends. 593 00:23:19,160 --> 00:23:21,119 Speaker 2: I had to cover Julio in the Super Bowl. I 594 00:23:21,119 --> 00:23:22,000 Speaker 2: don't care Julio. 595 00:23:22,320 --> 00:23:25,240 Speaker 5: Julio only runs, like can only run ten routes, and 596 00:23:25,359 --> 00:23:27,000 Speaker 5: once I figure out what they are, it can only 597 00:23:27,000 --> 00:23:29,000 Speaker 5: be three. So I'm gona play these three routes right 598 00:23:29,040 --> 00:23:30,280 Speaker 5: based on situation and all that. 599 00:23:30,359 --> 00:23:31,679 Speaker 2: So I'm playing the plays. 600 00:23:31,680 --> 00:23:33,119 Speaker 5: So at the end of the day, the quarterbacks got 601 00:23:33,160 --> 00:23:34,600 Speaker 5: thrown to a spot if I could figure out that 602 00:23:34,640 --> 00:23:36,680 Speaker 5: spot before you figure out this, or you know, because 603 00:23:36,680 --> 00:23:38,800 Speaker 5: I don't know where you're going, I gotta do some mass. 604 00:23:38,840 --> 00:23:41,119 Speaker 5: So I always say I'm just playing high high stakes 605 00:23:41,160 --> 00:23:42,240 Speaker 5: blackjack out there. 606 00:23:42,200 --> 00:23:44,920 Speaker 3: Being such a cerebral guy, because again, that's the story 607 00:23:44,960 --> 00:23:47,200 Speaker 3: on you too, is that you were able to almost 608 00:23:47,240 --> 00:23:49,240 Speaker 3: predict chess moves before the chess move happened. 609 00:23:49,400 --> 00:23:51,720 Speaker 2: Do you ever think about coaching? Yeah, you know, I 610 00:23:51,720 --> 00:23:53,439 Speaker 2: get asked that a lot because I definitely have. 611 00:23:53,720 --> 00:23:55,480 Speaker 5: I have a memory where I almost remember every game 612 00:23:55,520 --> 00:24:01,000 Speaker 5: I playing in the plays, and then I think I 613 00:24:01,040 --> 00:24:03,399 Speaker 5: do a decent job of explaining it to the everyday person. 614 00:24:03,440 --> 00:24:05,600 Speaker 2: So that's why media is good in coaching. 615 00:24:05,680 --> 00:24:09,240 Speaker 5: I just don't like how many hours these coaches work, 616 00:24:09,720 --> 00:24:11,679 Speaker 5: Like it's very hard for a coach to have a 617 00:24:11,720 --> 00:24:14,600 Speaker 5: balance with any family life, Like they're home at midnight 618 00:24:15,320 --> 00:24:18,040 Speaker 5: all year round. I mean, it's it's it's a crazy 619 00:24:18,080 --> 00:24:20,560 Speaker 5: profession that doesn't have any balance work life balance. 620 00:24:20,440 --> 00:24:22,600 Speaker 2: So right now, not attractive to you. Would you go 621 00:24:22,640 --> 00:24:25,240 Speaker 2: coach college or NFL if you had to, I. 622 00:24:25,160 --> 00:24:27,040 Speaker 5: Would coach NFL or college because I don't want to 623 00:24:27,040 --> 00:24:30,560 Speaker 5: recruit on the road and you're off time at a 624 00:24:30,840 --> 00:24:32,639 Speaker 5: seventeen year old high school telling him he's going to 625 00:24:32,680 --> 00:24:35,359 Speaker 5: be better than Devin mccordy. You know, it's just like 626 00:24:35,840 --> 00:24:38,240 Speaker 5: I don't like doing that. I'm too real with kids. 627 00:24:38,280 --> 00:24:40,600 Speaker 5: I'm like, look, you're not good, but we'll take you 628 00:24:40,720 --> 00:24:42,440 Speaker 5: probably make you good, but you're not. You know, you 629 00:24:42,520 --> 00:24:44,600 Speaker 5: got to earn everything here. 630 00:24:44,640 --> 00:24:46,600 Speaker 3: You're deciding to go and you can leave Rutgers are 631 00:24:46,600 --> 00:24:48,480 Speaker 3: going to go to the NFL, and they kind of 632 00:24:48,480 --> 00:24:51,639 Speaker 3: have you pegged as you know, late second third round pick, 633 00:24:52,119 --> 00:24:55,440 Speaker 3: and do you kind of have an idea of what 634 00:24:55,520 --> 00:24:57,399 Speaker 3: team will take you in that resk, like four or 635 00:24:57,440 --> 00:24:59,399 Speaker 3: five teams or does everybody just act like they like 636 00:24:59,440 --> 00:25:01,040 Speaker 3: you until they got to make that decision. 637 00:25:01,640 --> 00:25:03,760 Speaker 5: Yeah, so I leave, I leave Rutgers. I get a 638 00:25:03,760 --> 00:25:05,359 Speaker 5: second They give you a draft grade if you want 639 00:25:05,400 --> 00:25:06,760 Speaker 5: to like leave early. They gave me a second round 640 00:25:06,800 --> 00:25:08,560 Speaker 5: draft grade. So it's all going me depending like all 641 00:25:08,600 --> 00:25:11,440 Speaker 5: my combine but I wasn't a combine free Who. 642 00:25:11,240 --> 00:25:14,040 Speaker 2: Gave you that grade? By the way, I don't know 643 00:25:14,200 --> 00:25:14,840 Speaker 2: you submitted to. 644 00:25:14,880 --> 00:25:17,240 Speaker 5: Some dudes who are sitting in a room, say you 645 00:25:17,480 --> 00:25:18,960 Speaker 5: go in the second round, and I think they have 646 00:25:19,040 --> 00:25:20,960 Speaker 5: to protect you because they want to keep kids in school, 647 00:25:21,119 --> 00:25:22,880 Speaker 5: So they give you a lower grade cause they don't 648 00:25:22,880 --> 00:25:24,600 Speaker 5: want kids coming out, right. They don't want to say 649 00:25:24,720 --> 00:25:26,199 Speaker 5: you're on the first round. If you come out and 650 00:25:26,200 --> 00:25:28,280 Speaker 5: then you slide a sixth round and I get really pissed. 651 00:25:28,480 --> 00:25:30,719 Speaker 5: So they gave me a second round grade based on production. 652 00:25:30,840 --> 00:25:32,680 Speaker 5: That's like, at worst, I'm going in the second round. 653 00:25:32,680 --> 00:25:36,000 Speaker 5: That's that's good money. So Rutgers is like, no, don't go, 654 00:25:36,080 --> 00:25:37,520 Speaker 5: You'll be a first round of next year. I'm like, 655 00:25:37,520 --> 00:25:39,920 Speaker 5: I'm going I go to the second round, all right. 656 00:25:40,119 --> 00:25:42,440 Speaker 5: I start training and I'm like one of those athletes 657 00:25:42,480 --> 00:25:44,400 Speaker 5: I like, I play. I can play baseball, I could 658 00:25:44,400 --> 00:25:46,800 Speaker 5: play ping pong like, I could play pickball, like I 659 00:25:46,800 --> 00:25:49,480 Speaker 5: can fish, I can play basketball. I'm like an all 660 00:25:49,800 --> 00:25:51,920 Speaker 5: like a ball athlete. I guess bowl, I can bowl 661 00:25:51,960 --> 00:25:55,040 Speaker 5: it over two hundred whatever. There's guys that could literally 662 00:25:55,119 --> 00:25:56,840 Speaker 5: not swing a baseball bat, but they can jump forty 663 00:25:56,840 --> 00:25:57,720 Speaker 5: four inches and stuff. 664 00:25:57,760 --> 00:25:58,439 Speaker 2: I'm not like that. 665 00:25:58,480 --> 00:26:02,399 Speaker 5: So I had very mediocre numbers combine, and obviously I 666 00:26:02,440 --> 00:26:04,040 Speaker 5: was a junior, so I didn't have the Senior Bowl 667 00:26:04,080 --> 00:26:05,880 Speaker 5: or all that stuff to have more opportunity to be seen. 668 00:26:05,960 --> 00:26:07,040 Speaker 5: So I kind of was like, oh, this guy just 669 00:26:07,119 --> 00:26:09,520 Speaker 5: kept every time I look, I just slipped. Someone did 670 00:26:09,560 --> 00:26:12,639 Speaker 5: something at something that I wasn't even at, and I slipped. 671 00:26:12,720 --> 00:26:16,080 Speaker 3: You weren't doing anything to slip, No, just because you 672 00:26:16,080 --> 00:26:17,639 Speaker 3: weren't able to do certain things. 673 00:26:17,720 --> 00:26:19,760 Speaker 5: Yeah, you leave as a junior. There is no Senior Bowl, 674 00:26:19,800 --> 00:26:22,040 Speaker 5: there is no so right, so I'm okay, I'm a junior. 675 00:26:22,359 --> 00:26:24,159 Speaker 5: All I have is the NFL Combine. As soon as 676 00:26:24,160 --> 00:26:25,920 Speaker 5: I ran a four or five, it was like, oh, 677 00:26:25,960 --> 00:26:28,040 Speaker 5: this guy ran who this guy out of nowhere who 678 00:26:28,080 --> 00:26:30,200 Speaker 5: has no numbers ran a four to three. Let's be 679 00:26:30,200 --> 00:26:32,520 Speaker 5: cause they're kind of sell a story at the Combine too, right, 680 00:26:32,600 --> 00:26:35,600 Speaker 5: They want the biggest athletic freaks there. So I kind 681 00:26:35,600 --> 00:26:38,480 Speaker 5: of slipped. I went to the third round, New England. 682 00:26:38,960 --> 00:26:41,959 Speaker 5: New England came to Rutgers, and Rutgers had a lot 683 00:26:42,000 --> 00:26:44,919 Speaker 5: of guys at the time coming out and Bill Belichick. 684 00:26:45,240 --> 00:26:47,439 Speaker 5: And this is actually another I got all these Belichick 685 00:26:47,520 --> 00:26:48,800 Speaker 5: stories that just keep coming out. 686 00:26:49,119 --> 00:26:53,280 Speaker 2: So when you're in college, there's local pro days. 687 00:26:53,280 --> 00:26:58,240 Speaker 5: So in New Jersey, right, like, the Jets and the 688 00:26:58,280 --> 00:27:00,600 Speaker 5: Giants can work out the local guys on their own day, 689 00:27:01,440 --> 00:27:03,439 Speaker 5: and guys from all those colleges in New Jersey can 690 00:27:03,480 --> 00:27:05,240 Speaker 5: go do a local pro day for the Jets and 691 00:27:05,280 --> 00:27:09,159 Speaker 5: the Giants. So Bill Belichick decides that he wants to 692 00:27:09,200 --> 00:27:12,119 Speaker 5: come do a visit with me on the day of 693 00:27:12,200 --> 00:27:13,400 Speaker 5: the Jets local Pro Day. 694 00:27:13,480 --> 00:27:14,919 Speaker 2: So I'm not going to work out for the Jets. 695 00:27:14,960 --> 00:27:18,040 Speaker 5: The Patriots are coming to work me out privately, and 696 00:27:18,119 --> 00:27:20,000 Speaker 5: I think only two or three teams worked me out privately. 697 00:27:20,160 --> 00:27:22,000 Speaker 5: Not only didn't invite Purpose for right, right, not only 698 00:27:22,040 --> 00:27:25,119 Speaker 5: did he invite me, he invited about sixteen Rutgers players, 699 00:27:25,440 --> 00:27:27,880 Speaker 5: so everybody. I mean, I think we had seven guys 700 00:27:27,920 --> 00:27:32,080 Speaker 5: get drafted that year. We led the draft with players Me, Deron, Harmon, 701 00:27:32,960 --> 00:27:37,280 Speaker 5: Steve Bahrnis, everybody that we had coming out. We had 702 00:27:37,280 --> 00:27:39,119 Speaker 5: like eight guys on defense, eight guys on offense. So 703 00:27:39,160 --> 00:27:40,880 Speaker 5: it was like a pretty much a Patriot Pro Day 704 00:27:41,240 --> 00:27:42,840 Speaker 5: the day that was supposed to be the Jets Pro day. 705 00:27:42,840 --> 00:27:44,600 Speaker 5: So Rex Ryan and Jets were pissed because none of 706 00:27:44,640 --> 00:27:46,760 Speaker 5: the Rutgers players went to their pro day. They had 707 00:27:46,760 --> 00:27:49,760 Speaker 5: like Mamath players go and it was like, well, Bill 708 00:27:49,800 --> 00:27:52,240 Speaker 5: came in and said to do this. So I remember 709 00:27:52,760 --> 00:27:56,280 Speaker 5: I did the thing with Bill. But I called Devon 710 00:27:56,400 --> 00:27:58,439 Speaker 5: because Devon's one of my good friends and he was 711 00:27:58,440 --> 00:28:00,360 Speaker 5: on the Patriots already, was their captains. So I said, 712 00:28:00,359 --> 00:28:02,080 Speaker 5: I need all your drills, give me all your warm 713 00:28:02,119 --> 00:28:04,199 Speaker 5: up drills, give me all your dB drills. What do 714 00:28:04,200 --> 00:28:05,960 Speaker 5: you guys do in a workout? So Devin sent me 715 00:28:06,000 --> 00:28:08,400 Speaker 5: all their drills, and I've been practicing with the guys 716 00:28:08,800 --> 00:28:11,439 Speaker 5: for a week because we knew what day this was coming. 717 00:28:11,680 --> 00:28:15,200 Speaker 5: So our entire secondary was practicing these drills for a week. 718 00:28:15,280 --> 00:28:17,720 Speaker 5: So when they come in, we crushed the workout. Then 719 00:28:17,760 --> 00:28:19,480 Speaker 5: we go to the film room and I'm like, oh, 720 00:28:19,520 --> 00:28:21,560 Speaker 5: this is what I do. I'm turning what the nose 721 00:28:21,600 --> 00:28:24,360 Speaker 5: guard does? I'm turning with all eleven players doing every defense. 722 00:28:24,720 --> 00:28:27,880 Speaker 5: So I knew I impressed Bill and then he ends 723 00:28:27,920 --> 00:28:29,719 Speaker 5: up drafting me in the third round. Deron Harmon, who 724 00:28:29,760 --> 00:28:31,359 Speaker 5: was our free safety in the third round as well, 725 00:28:31,480 --> 00:28:33,720 Speaker 5: So we drafted four guys on Rutgers defense alone in 726 00:28:33,720 --> 00:28:37,000 Speaker 5: that draft. But I had the drills from Devin a 727 00:28:37,000 --> 00:28:38,840 Speaker 5: week prior and we were practicing for this workout. 728 00:28:38,920 --> 00:28:40,760 Speaker 3: What's it like as a rookie going into the locker 729 00:28:40,840 --> 00:28:43,520 Speaker 3: room of the NFL where you got thirty five year 730 00:28:43,520 --> 00:28:44,320 Speaker 3: old men in there as well? 731 00:28:44,880 --> 00:28:45,360 Speaker 2: Crazy? 732 00:28:45,920 --> 00:28:49,160 Speaker 5: It was again, that's another adjustment again, and I just 733 00:28:49,160 --> 00:28:50,520 Speaker 5: think you got to earn them with your play and 734 00:28:50,520 --> 00:28:52,400 Speaker 5: just being a good rookie. I was singing songs, I 735 00:28:52,440 --> 00:28:54,960 Speaker 5: was telling jokes. I remember I was playing really well 736 00:28:55,000 --> 00:28:57,360 Speaker 5: in the preseason. I actually had to pick six against 737 00:28:57,400 --> 00:28:59,200 Speaker 5: the Bucks who Shianna wants to be that coach. So 738 00:28:59,240 --> 00:29:01,000 Speaker 5: I kind of got back with the pick six in 739 00:29:01,040 --> 00:29:04,800 Speaker 5: the preseason and because he didn't draft me in the 740 00:29:04,840 --> 00:29:07,400 Speaker 5: second round, so I'm like, oh, coach that passing on me. 741 00:29:07,640 --> 00:29:09,960 Speaker 2: Dan, I had it hurt a little bit, like taking 742 00:29:09,960 --> 00:29:10,360 Speaker 2: that personal. 743 00:29:10,440 --> 00:29:12,120 Speaker 5: Yeah, it was a little personal at the time. So 744 00:29:12,520 --> 00:29:13,800 Speaker 5: I was like, Okay, don't draft me. 745 00:29:13,840 --> 00:29:14,720 Speaker 2: That's fine. See what I do. 746 00:29:14,880 --> 00:29:18,640 Speaker 5: So I uh, he actually drafted another corner as well, 747 00:29:18,880 --> 00:29:20,959 Speaker 5: so I end up doing that. 748 00:29:21,000 --> 00:29:21,720 Speaker 2: So I'm playing well. 749 00:29:21,760 --> 00:29:23,600 Speaker 5: So I'm like kind of playing with the starters, like 750 00:29:23,640 --> 00:29:25,760 Speaker 5: when the season is about to start, like kind of 751 00:29:25,800 --> 00:29:28,480 Speaker 5: like in there. Very different than started my college career. 752 00:29:28,800 --> 00:29:31,160 Speaker 5: And I remember a keep to leeve was like and 753 00:29:31,200 --> 00:29:33,640 Speaker 5: I think there's no more intimidating veteran you can have 754 00:29:33,760 --> 00:29:36,040 Speaker 5: than a keep to leave as a rookie, and a 755 00:29:36,120 --> 00:29:38,600 Speaker 5: key was like, yo, rookie, you gotta get his chicken 756 00:29:38,640 --> 00:29:40,480 Speaker 5: wings before we go on away games. On the flight, 757 00:29:41,000 --> 00:29:43,360 Speaker 5: I'm like, well, I'm not getting no chicken wings. I'm 758 00:29:43,360 --> 00:29:45,040 Speaker 5: like one of the starters, like get the other rookies 759 00:29:45,080 --> 00:29:46,680 Speaker 5: a day. And he was like he looked at me, 760 00:29:46,720 --> 00:29:48,920 Speaker 5: He's like, you're getting those chicken wings, and I just 761 00:29:49,000 --> 00:29:50,400 Speaker 5: was like, I'm getting those chickens. 762 00:29:52,520 --> 00:29:55,880 Speaker 2: So I ended up getting chicken wings before every road game. 763 00:29:55,880 --> 00:29:58,240 Speaker 5: I had to go to Skipjacks across the street a 764 00:29:58,320 --> 00:30:02,400 Speaker 5: Patriot place and get like three hundred chicken wings and in. 765 00:30:02,360 --> 00:30:05,240 Speaker 2: A suit and bring buffalo wings in a suit. 766 00:30:06,200 --> 00:30:09,280 Speaker 5: Uh and not get any sauce on me and get 767 00:30:09,320 --> 00:30:10,120 Speaker 5: pictured in the plane. 768 00:30:10,160 --> 00:30:11,920 Speaker 2: So every like pregame picture of me in the plane. 769 00:30:11,960 --> 00:30:13,520 Speaker 5: I had like big old bag of chicken wings for 770 00:30:13,640 --> 00:30:16,560 Speaker 5: the entire secondary or whatever. And I did that for 771 00:30:16,720 --> 00:30:18,320 Speaker 5: I did that for an entire year and I and 772 00:30:18,360 --> 00:30:21,400 Speaker 5: I ended up starting most of that year leaning the 773 00:30:21,400 --> 00:30:23,280 Speaker 5: team leaning the AFC and it I had five interceptions 774 00:30:23,320 --> 00:30:23,800 Speaker 5: as a rookie. 775 00:30:23,800 --> 00:30:25,600 Speaker 2: He's still getting wings even though you got fired. 776 00:30:25,640 --> 00:30:30,200 Speaker 5: Started at AFC Championship. Starting AFC Championship, had more picks than. 777 00:30:30,040 --> 00:30:30,840 Speaker 2: To leave that year. 778 00:30:31,320 --> 00:30:33,320 Speaker 5: And uh yeah, I was getting chicken wings up to 779 00:30:33,320 --> 00:30:35,560 Speaker 5: the AFC Championship. And I remember we were flying to 780 00:30:35,560 --> 00:30:39,240 Speaker 5: the AFC Championship and Bill was like, let the players 781 00:30:39,280 --> 00:30:42,040 Speaker 5: sit first class and some other organizations when you fly, 782 00:30:42,280 --> 00:30:44,040 Speaker 5: the coaches sit first class and the players in the 783 00:30:44,040 --> 00:30:46,200 Speaker 5: bat and I pisses the players off. But Bill's like, nah, 784 00:30:46,200 --> 00:30:47,560 Speaker 5: the players, they run the show like they're in the 785 00:30:47,600 --> 00:30:50,760 Speaker 5: first class, but there's only so many seats, so he 786 00:30:50,800 --> 00:30:52,640 Speaker 5: doesn't do it on some yard he doesn't know who's playing. 787 00:30:52,720 --> 00:30:54,400 Speaker 5: So I remember I was, I got like a first 788 00:30:54,400 --> 00:30:57,320 Speaker 5: class seat, and I'm like, yeah, like okay, I made it. 789 00:30:57,760 --> 00:30:58,840 Speaker 2: And they had some guys there are. 790 00:30:58,720 --> 00:31:01,280 Speaker 5: Ten year vets in a cop me pissed, but I'm like, hey, 791 00:31:01,320 --> 00:31:03,920 Speaker 5: like I'm playing better, Bill rewards who's playing better? 792 00:31:04,280 --> 00:31:06,680 Speaker 3: Who gets respect? Somebody who plays well or somebody's got 793 00:31:06,720 --> 00:31:07,160 Speaker 3: a big deal. 794 00:31:09,240 --> 00:31:11,720 Speaker 5: Who I always say play well because even when I 795 00:31:12,040 --> 00:31:14,040 Speaker 5: signed some big deals, I signed two thirty million dollar 796 00:31:14,080 --> 00:31:18,040 Speaker 5: contracts in my career, and I just I always felt 797 00:31:18,080 --> 00:31:20,080 Speaker 5: like I got to show to the guys like I'm 798 00:31:20,080 --> 00:31:22,000 Speaker 5: worth it, because nothing's worse than a guy who gets 799 00:31:22,040 --> 00:31:23,240 Speaker 5: paid and doesn't work. 800 00:31:23,440 --> 00:31:25,240 Speaker 2: And you're like, this is a guy we're paying. 801 00:31:25,040 --> 00:31:27,760 Speaker 5: Like you're Do you see that in locker rooms? Oh yeah, 802 00:31:27,800 --> 00:31:30,239 Speaker 5: that's a lot of teams issues. They play guys they 803 00:31:30,280 --> 00:31:33,600 Speaker 5: don't know their character. The money changes the guys, and 804 00:31:33,680 --> 00:31:35,440 Speaker 5: now you have a big issue because not only is 805 00:31:35,440 --> 00:31:37,280 Speaker 5: your paid player supposed to be your best player and 806 00:31:37,360 --> 00:31:39,560 Speaker 5: hopefully your hardest worker, like Tom Brady is and these 807 00:31:39,600 --> 00:31:42,360 Speaker 5: guys are he's your least hardest worker and he's not 808 00:31:42,400 --> 00:31:44,560 Speaker 5: even playing up to his own potentials. That really hurts 809 00:31:44,560 --> 00:31:46,800 Speaker 5: your team. So you got to pay. You got to 810 00:31:46,840 --> 00:31:48,960 Speaker 5: make sure that you reward the right guys. I'm a 811 00:31:49,000 --> 00:31:49,840 Speaker 5: big booster. 812 00:31:50,080 --> 00:31:53,880 Speaker 3: I do NILS with players, big Arkansas guy, And I 813 00:31:53,880 --> 00:31:56,080 Speaker 3: think one of the things that I've been able to 814 00:31:56,200 --> 00:31:58,160 Speaker 3: observe is that some of these guys grew up like 815 00:31:58,200 --> 00:32:00,120 Speaker 3: I did, no money, broke, but this is this is 816 00:32:00,160 --> 00:32:02,880 Speaker 3: their first time to get some money in college, and 817 00:32:02,920 --> 00:32:06,360 Speaker 3: it actually prepares them from when they get more money 818 00:32:06,400 --> 00:32:09,000 Speaker 3: in the NFL. So it's not just straight culture shot 819 00:32:09,080 --> 00:32:12,520 Speaker 3: going from nothing to everything. I feel like that's a 820 00:32:12,560 --> 00:32:16,040 Speaker 3: real positive of the NIL is there's an adjustment period 821 00:32:16,200 --> 00:32:17,280 Speaker 3: before you hit it real big. 822 00:32:17,320 --> 00:32:17,959 Speaker 2: Your thoughts on that. 823 00:32:18,480 --> 00:32:21,360 Speaker 5: I love that, I love that IL. It's I mean, 824 00:32:21,480 --> 00:32:23,160 Speaker 5: I just like that the players are getting a piece 825 00:32:23,160 --> 00:32:24,880 Speaker 5: of the pie. And I know it's kind of crazy 826 00:32:24,920 --> 00:32:27,280 Speaker 5: to regulate, and I know a lot of players are 827 00:32:27,280 --> 00:32:29,360 Speaker 5: making a lot of money at a young age, but 828 00:32:29,440 --> 00:32:31,400 Speaker 5: I think what it also does. I think it can 829 00:32:32,720 --> 00:32:35,520 Speaker 5: expose the family that's been waiting to do it. Anyway, 830 00:32:35,880 --> 00:32:38,040 Speaker 5: So you might you know, when you've got a million 831 00:32:38,080 --> 00:32:40,320 Speaker 5: dollars at twenty one, you got some uncles that have 832 00:32:40,360 --> 00:32:42,680 Speaker 5: been waiting in the weeds. You know that now if 833 00:32:42,680 --> 00:32:44,680 Speaker 5: you don't give them something now, now they're mad at you. 834 00:32:45,080 --> 00:32:48,120 Speaker 5: So maybe it exposes a little the family dynamic or 835 00:32:48,160 --> 00:32:50,800 Speaker 5: the support dynamic a little earlier. So these kids be like, oh, okay, 836 00:32:50,800 --> 00:32:53,560 Speaker 5: I really see who's got my back and not? You 837 00:32:53,560 --> 00:32:56,080 Speaker 5: know so, I think a lot of guys' stresses is 838 00:32:56,120 --> 00:32:58,440 Speaker 5: dealing with family and how to hint, like you can't 839 00:32:58,440 --> 00:33:01,080 Speaker 5: help everybody and where where where? Who do you owe 840 00:33:01,160 --> 00:33:03,280 Speaker 5: what to? And what? Your aunt struggling, so you got 841 00:33:03,320 --> 00:33:04,800 Speaker 5: to pay for her, and so and so had a hospital. 842 00:33:04,840 --> 00:33:07,160 Speaker 5: Bality got to pay for that. And your mom needs this, 843 00:33:07,240 --> 00:33:08,800 Speaker 5: and your dad needs that, and you're oh, by your 844 00:33:08,840 --> 00:33:10,600 Speaker 5: brother's always been there with you, so he needs this. 845 00:33:10,720 --> 00:33:13,400 Speaker 5: And then eventually it's like you tell them no one 846 00:33:13,440 --> 00:33:15,120 Speaker 5: time and then they get mad at you. You know, so 847 00:33:15,160 --> 00:33:16,880 Speaker 5: you definitely need to work on that dynamic. 848 00:33:17,160 --> 00:33:18,960 Speaker 3: Did they work with you guys on money when you 849 00:33:19,000 --> 00:33:21,440 Speaker 3: go in like that, because I know in the NBA 850 00:33:21,520 --> 00:33:23,120 Speaker 3: they do these these class. 851 00:33:22,960 --> 00:33:26,640 Speaker 5: They Yeah, we have a we have a we have 852 00:33:26,760 --> 00:33:27,960 Speaker 5: like a Rookie Symposium. 853 00:33:28,840 --> 00:33:30,760 Speaker 2: You know, but it's just it's generic. 854 00:33:30,960 --> 00:33:33,480 Speaker 5: You know, it's not like a class, it's a it's 855 00:33:33,480 --> 00:33:37,360 Speaker 5: a one day, you know, four hour presentation. You watched 856 00:33:37,400 --> 00:33:39,880 Speaker 5: the documentary about Going Broke, which was that he hit 857 00:33:39,920 --> 00:33:42,280 Speaker 5: at thirty for thirty, which was crazy, and see Antoine 858 00:33:42,320 --> 00:33:46,400 Speaker 5: Jamison then buying apartment complexes and JaMarcus Russell like buying 859 00:33:46,400 --> 00:33:47,720 Speaker 5: an entire plane every seat. 860 00:33:47,800 --> 00:33:47,960 Speaker 2: You know. 861 00:33:47,960 --> 00:33:50,640 Speaker 5: I'm like, I wouldn't do that, But I don't know 862 00:33:50,640 --> 00:33:53,200 Speaker 5: if that teaches you actually like what taxes are and 863 00:33:53,280 --> 00:33:56,680 Speaker 5: like how to p Yeah, like I don't think guys 864 00:33:57,120 --> 00:33:59,120 Speaker 5: like every draft pick is buying her mom a house 865 00:33:59,120 --> 00:33:59,800 Speaker 5: and somebody a car. 866 00:33:59,840 --> 00:34:00,520 Speaker 2: The first day. 867 00:34:00,560 --> 00:34:04,400 Speaker 5: It's like, dude, you're making like maybe eight hundred thousand 868 00:34:04,440 --> 00:34:08,200 Speaker 5: dollars this year after taxes, that's like five hundred. Now 869 00:34:08,239 --> 00:34:10,560 Speaker 5: you bought a car and a house, Like, how are 870 00:34:10,560 --> 00:34:12,680 Speaker 5: you even going to pay for your own rent? Like 871 00:34:12,719 --> 00:34:14,680 Speaker 5: there's not enough money to do that in day one. 872 00:34:15,160 --> 00:34:17,839 Speaker 3: Which I you know, for Nils again, I think it's 873 00:34:17,840 --> 00:34:19,399 Speaker 3: great when you somebody make a few hundred thousand bucks 874 00:34:19,440 --> 00:34:20,680 Speaker 3: because then when they make a million, they know half 875 00:34:20,719 --> 00:34:21,680 Speaker 3: of it where it's going anyway. 876 00:34:21,880 --> 00:34:22,360 Speaker 2: Yeah, you know. 877 00:34:22,600 --> 00:34:25,520 Speaker 3: Yeah, So when you get to the NFL and you're 878 00:34:25,560 --> 00:34:27,799 Speaker 3: playing with the Patriots and you're playing, well, I mean, 879 00:34:27,800 --> 00:34:31,080 Speaker 3: you got the greatest player of all time Tom Brady there. 880 00:34:32,560 --> 00:34:34,840 Speaker 3: I mean, does he just walk around and everybody just 881 00:34:34,880 --> 00:34:37,560 Speaker 3: it's instant respect or is he one of the guys. 882 00:34:38,440 --> 00:34:39,960 Speaker 5: He's he's one of the guys as much as he 883 00:34:40,000 --> 00:34:42,240 Speaker 5: could be. And he's just he's different. He was older 884 00:34:42,239 --> 00:34:43,799 Speaker 5: than you know, older than a lot of us and 885 00:34:43,800 --> 00:34:45,880 Speaker 5: all that stuff, but he is the most one of 886 00:34:45,920 --> 00:34:49,920 Speaker 5: the most huge, like humble people for high star power. 887 00:34:50,040 --> 00:34:51,920 Speaker 2: Like like, does he try to be involved with folks. 888 00:34:52,000 --> 00:34:55,080 Speaker 5: Yeah, he's very authentic, He's very genuine. He's very engaging, engaging. 889 00:34:55,120 --> 00:34:57,520 Speaker 5: I think his EQ is what got him so many 890 00:34:57,520 --> 00:35:01,040 Speaker 5: Super Bowls. He really knows how to how to how 891 00:35:01,120 --> 00:35:03,120 Speaker 5: to tap in with his teammates and get the best 892 00:35:03,160 --> 00:35:05,320 Speaker 5: out of his teammate's. Like sometimes you hear how Kobe 893 00:35:05,360 --> 00:35:07,640 Speaker 5: didn't always rub right with his teammates, or Jordan didn't 894 00:35:07,640 --> 00:35:10,080 Speaker 5: always rub right with his teammates or whatever. I think 895 00:35:10,120 --> 00:35:13,000 Speaker 5: Tom has that same competitive passion and he knows when 896 00:35:13,000 --> 00:35:14,719 Speaker 5: to do that, but he also knows when to love 897 00:35:14,800 --> 00:35:18,000 Speaker 5: up on his teammates and maybe a little more Lebron esque. 898 00:35:18,040 --> 00:35:20,399 Speaker 5: I don't know, but I think that like Tom has 899 00:35:20,520 --> 00:35:22,040 Speaker 5: mastered I think that's a difference with him in a 900 00:35:22,080 --> 00:35:23,680 Speaker 5: lot of these other quarterbacks. That's why he has seven 901 00:35:23,719 --> 00:35:26,200 Speaker 5: and these other guys have one or two. Is how 902 00:35:26,280 --> 00:35:29,239 Speaker 5: much like I'll tell quickly, like this story I've told 903 00:35:29,239 --> 00:35:31,200 Speaker 5: a couple of times my first time ever meeting him. 904 00:35:31,200 --> 00:35:33,160 Speaker 5: So I get drafted by the Patriots. I'm walking in 905 00:35:33,160 --> 00:35:35,799 Speaker 5: the hall. I kind of like see him like down 906 00:35:35,840 --> 00:35:37,160 Speaker 5: the home, like, oh shit, I'm going to run into 907 00:35:37,160 --> 00:35:39,920 Speaker 5: this guy. Like do I call him Tom Thomas, mister Brady? 908 00:35:40,040 --> 00:35:42,480 Speaker 5: Like I had this guy's jersey growing up, right, So 909 00:35:42,520 --> 00:35:45,080 Speaker 5: I'm like like clearing my throat and as I walk 910 00:35:45,160 --> 00:35:49,520 Speaker 5: up to him outside of normal conversation range, like you know, 911 00:35:49,560 --> 00:35:51,279 Speaker 5: you have like maybe a second to get ready for 912 00:35:51,320 --> 00:35:52,000 Speaker 5: this conversation. 913 00:35:52,440 --> 00:35:55,120 Speaker 2: He's like, oh, hey, you're Logan right. 914 00:35:55,120 --> 00:35:57,319 Speaker 5: We're drafting a third round out of Ruckers And he's like, man, 915 00:35:57,400 --> 00:36:02,040 Speaker 5: look I'm Tom quarterback here, Like if you need anything, 916 00:36:02,080 --> 00:36:05,279 Speaker 5: my lockers are here. I'm always here early anything you need, like, 917 00:36:05,400 --> 00:36:07,520 Speaker 5: just come to me and I'll do the best I can. 918 00:36:07,600 --> 00:36:10,239 Speaker 5: He's like, trust me, I was a rookie it's hard. 919 00:36:10,320 --> 00:36:12,440 Speaker 5: Just put your head down and keep working. And I 920 00:36:12,520 --> 00:36:13,960 Speaker 5: just thought that was so cool. Not only did he 921 00:36:14,000 --> 00:36:16,520 Speaker 5: take the awkward interaction out of me, but he made 922 00:36:16,560 --> 00:36:18,560 Speaker 5: me feel he knew who I was, he knew where 923 00:36:18,600 --> 00:36:20,880 Speaker 5: I was, school I came from. He made me feel important, 924 00:36:21,400 --> 00:36:23,239 Speaker 5: and he said he was an open book for me. 925 00:36:23,800 --> 00:36:26,640 Speaker 5: And when you're just the third round rookie out of 926 00:36:26,719 --> 00:36:29,920 Speaker 5: Rutgers who's probably the fifty third best player on the team, 927 00:36:30,160 --> 00:36:32,520 Speaker 5: I was like, dang, that's really cool. And I was like, yo, 928 00:36:32,560 --> 00:36:34,360 Speaker 5: I want to be like that veteran one day. I 929 00:36:34,440 --> 00:36:35,719 Speaker 5: might not be Tom Brady, but I want to be 930 00:36:35,800 --> 00:36:38,480 Speaker 5: that guy that's not hazing and not like making it 931 00:36:38,560 --> 00:36:40,719 Speaker 5: so hard. We need these guys, and I think Tom 932 00:36:40,800 --> 00:36:42,680 Speaker 5: knows that he's going to need every one of his teammates. 933 00:36:42,920 --> 00:36:44,279 Speaker 3: We only got a few minutes left too with you. 934 00:36:44,320 --> 00:36:46,480 Speaker 3: But a couple questions. What if you said, hey, Tom, 935 00:36:46,480 --> 00:36:50,040 Speaker 3: will you sign this? Well, that football, anything, It could 936 00:36:50,040 --> 00:36:52,120 Speaker 3: be anything. You're like, Tom, Hey, thanks man, were you signed? 937 00:36:52,239 --> 00:36:52,319 Speaker 4: Like? 938 00:36:52,480 --> 00:36:53,560 Speaker 2: Is that allowed on the locker room? 939 00:36:53,600 --> 00:36:53,759 Speaker 6: Yeah? 940 00:36:53,760 --> 00:36:55,000 Speaker 2: I got him, you didn't see. I got him to 941 00:36:55,040 --> 00:36:57,239 Speaker 2: sign his last I picked off his last. But that's 942 00:36:57,239 --> 00:36:59,239 Speaker 2: the end. That's you already were established. 943 00:36:59,360 --> 00:37:03,160 Speaker 3: Oh early, Yeah, it's crazy. 944 00:37:03,400 --> 00:37:05,560 Speaker 5: Yeah, I think I think you got to just draw 945 00:37:05,600 --> 00:37:08,400 Speaker 5: the line there because everyone would do it so certain 946 00:37:08,440 --> 00:37:10,440 Speaker 5: guys when you're established. I think he does it, and 947 00:37:11,160 --> 00:37:13,759 Speaker 5: charity he'll do it, but like just he would be 948 00:37:13,800 --> 00:37:14,560 Speaker 5: there all day. 949 00:37:14,520 --> 00:37:16,400 Speaker 3: Like you know, You're that went viral when you had 950 00:37:16,440 --> 00:37:19,160 Speaker 3: him sign the ball after you. And do you think 951 00:37:19,520 --> 00:37:22,959 Speaker 3: part of that situation you approached that because you already 952 00:37:23,000 --> 00:37:24,200 Speaker 3: knew him and played with him. 953 00:37:24,440 --> 00:37:25,160 Speaker 2: Yeah, I knew him. 954 00:37:25,520 --> 00:37:29,279 Speaker 5: We kind of grown together, our relationship of respect, and 955 00:37:29,440 --> 00:37:31,359 Speaker 5: I didn't know how much longer he was going to play. 956 00:37:31,400 --> 00:37:33,000 Speaker 5: I was going to play whatever, So I kind of 957 00:37:33,040 --> 00:37:35,440 Speaker 5: just snuck a bunch of stuff from the sign for 958 00:37:35,600 --> 00:37:38,759 Speaker 5: family finally over these years, and then I kind of 959 00:37:38,800 --> 00:37:39,160 Speaker 5: snuck the. 960 00:37:39,160 --> 00:37:41,920 Speaker 2: Football in there too. You still have the ball? I 961 00:37:41,960 --> 00:37:44,640 Speaker 2: do have the ball? Yeah, what could you get for? You? Think? 962 00:37:45,280 --> 00:37:46,680 Speaker 5: That's what I want to know? I mean, let me 963 00:37:46,719 --> 00:37:49,600 Speaker 5: know who's who's listening. I want to over have five 964 00:37:49,680 --> 00:37:50,320 Speaker 5: hundred thousand. 965 00:37:50,360 --> 00:37:51,239 Speaker 2: How do you still train? 966 00:37:51,360 --> 00:37:52,759 Speaker 3: I get two questions, like how do you still trained 967 00:37:52,800 --> 00:37:54,719 Speaker 3: with the intensity that you need to train with when 968 00:37:54,840 --> 00:37:58,799 Speaker 3: you're waiting on that call instead of knowing who that 969 00:37:58,840 --> 00:38:01,000 Speaker 3: call is going to be from I did. 970 00:38:00,880 --> 00:38:02,319 Speaker 2: This during COVID. I was a free agent for a 971 00:38:02,320 --> 00:38:03,440 Speaker 2: long time. I left Tennessee. 972 00:38:03,480 --> 00:38:05,560 Speaker 5: I didn't sign with the New York Giants till week 973 00:38:05,640 --> 00:38:07,440 Speaker 5: one of the season, so I was all the way 974 00:38:07,440 --> 00:38:09,320 Speaker 5: through training camp and I got in there and I 975 00:38:09,400 --> 00:38:11,760 Speaker 5: ended up leading the team and snaps, play eating tackles 976 00:38:11,800 --> 00:38:14,200 Speaker 5: on stuff. So I've been through this. I think it's 977 00:38:14,239 --> 00:38:16,960 Speaker 5: just it's discipline. I get up and get it done, period, 978 00:38:17,000 --> 00:38:18,200 Speaker 5: doesn't matter who I'm playing for. 979 00:38:18,280 --> 00:38:18,719 Speaker 2: I get up. 980 00:38:18,719 --> 00:38:20,000 Speaker 5: I know, I know the work and what I need 981 00:38:20,040 --> 00:38:21,480 Speaker 5: to do at this point in my career, and I 982 00:38:21,520 --> 00:38:22,440 Speaker 5: get up and just get it done. 983 00:38:22,520 --> 00:38:24,080 Speaker 3: You want to come here? I know some people here? 984 00:38:24,239 --> 00:38:25,840 Speaker 3: Mean you want to come here? What the Titans? 985 00:38:25,840 --> 00:38:27,680 Speaker 2: I'm just saying, we want to come here? I know 986 00:38:27,719 --> 00:38:28,279 Speaker 2: some people here. 987 00:38:28,280 --> 00:38:28,719 Speaker 4: I don't know. 988 00:38:29,000 --> 00:38:30,319 Speaker 2: Like where you want to go? Where do you see 989 00:38:30,360 --> 00:38:31,000 Speaker 2: yourself fitting? 990 00:38:31,040 --> 00:38:31,160 Speaker 4: Well? 991 00:38:31,160 --> 00:38:31,879 Speaker 2: Who needs you? 992 00:38:32,040 --> 00:38:32,200 Speaker 4: Man? 993 00:38:32,200 --> 00:38:34,719 Speaker 5: I would love to be in Tampa because my family's there, 994 00:38:34,920 --> 00:38:38,239 Speaker 5: you know. But if that's not the case, then I 995 00:38:38,239 --> 00:38:41,520 Speaker 5: obviously want to play for a good organization that could tender, 996 00:38:42,600 --> 00:38:44,279 Speaker 5: that can get a guy to plug in and play 997 00:38:44,480 --> 00:38:45,480 Speaker 5: and win championships. 998 00:38:45,920 --> 00:38:48,560 Speaker 2: See, yeah, we'll see what the record is during during 999 00:38:48,560 --> 00:38:50,040 Speaker 2: the year, he. 1000 00:38:50,000 --> 00:38:54,560 Speaker 1: Wants to play for the Cowboys PSI Eddie question for Logan. Yeah, Logan, 1001 00:38:54,719 --> 00:38:57,799 Speaker 1: So like, growing up, who did you want to play for? 1002 00:38:58,120 --> 00:39:00,840 Speaker 1: Because I got four kids, three of them are pretty 1003 00:39:00,880 --> 00:39:03,400 Speaker 1: decent at sports, so I fought them all jerseys, like 1004 00:39:03,840 --> 00:39:06,719 Speaker 1: so they can take baby pictures with so the announcer 1005 00:39:06,800 --> 00:39:09,759 Speaker 1: can be like he's always been a forty nine from there, 1006 00:39:10,640 --> 00:39:11,960 Speaker 1: you know, So who did you want to play? 1007 00:39:12,000 --> 00:39:12,320 Speaker 2: Crazy? 1008 00:39:12,320 --> 00:39:13,880 Speaker 5: I kept this hitting. I was a New York Giant 1009 00:39:13,960 --> 00:39:15,600 Speaker 5: and I literally kept this hitting. But I grew up 1010 00:39:15,640 --> 00:39:18,440 Speaker 5: a diehard Philly fan because I'm from South Jersey and 1011 00:39:18,480 --> 00:39:20,879 Speaker 5: there's like no choice, a right, there's Cowboys fans there. 1012 00:39:20,880 --> 00:39:24,760 Speaker 5: They get like beat up daily fights. It's real rivalries 1013 00:39:24,800 --> 00:39:25,080 Speaker 5: up there. 1014 00:39:25,120 --> 00:39:27,279 Speaker 2: So I was. I was an Eagles fan growing up. 1015 00:39:27,280 --> 00:39:30,239 Speaker 5: I grew up watching McNab years and and all those years, 1016 00:39:30,320 --> 00:39:32,200 Speaker 5: Brian Dawkins and all that, so I was big. So 1017 00:39:32,239 --> 00:39:35,040 Speaker 5: when the Phillies won the World Series in eighth nine 1018 00:39:35,080 --> 00:39:37,320 Speaker 5: or whatever, like our teachers didn't show up to school, 1019 00:39:37,440 --> 00:39:38,240 Speaker 5: like there was no school. 1020 00:39:38,239 --> 00:39:40,160 Speaker 2: Everyone's at the parade. It's like that type of town. 1021 00:39:40,360 --> 00:39:44,160 Speaker 2: They were climbing the pole. Yeah, oh yeah, it's serious. 1022 00:39:44,239 --> 00:39:47,840 Speaker 2: I'm a big animal guy. Tell me about Ryan's monthly 1023 00:39:47,920 --> 00:39:50,600 Speaker 2: rescue and your goal and what you've been able to 1024 00:39:50,640 --> 00:39:51,160 Speaker 2: do so far. 1025 00:39:51,840 --> 00:39:53,759 Speaker 5: Man, we were able to raise hundreds of thousands of 1026 00:39:53,840 --> 00:39:56,839 Speaker 5: dollars for animals throughout the years. I just love I 1027 00:39:56,880 --> 00:39:58,759 Speaker 5: was waiting, I was looking for my calls, and I 1028 00:39:58,800 --> 00:40:02,440 Speaker 5: love shelter animals. I have rescue dogs, my daughter foster's kittens. 1029 00:40:02,840 --> 00:40:05,040 Speaker 5: So we started a big animal foundation to raise money, 1030 00:40:05,080 --> 00:40:08,120 Speaker 5: awareness and just be a different face in that industry. 1031 00:40:08,120 --> 00:40:10,760 Speaker 5: You don't see young black guys like loving on pitbulls. 1032 00:40:10,760 --> 00:40:12,919 Speaker 5: You see a different type of stereotype. You don't see 1033 00:40:12,920 --> 00:40:16,279 Speaker 5: guys with kittens and stuff like that. So I've done 1034 00:40:16,280 --> 00:40:18,080 Speaker 5: a lot with Naturally Humane out here when I was 1035 00:40:19,320 --> 00:40:22,799 Speaker 5: still currently and we're just trying to promote adoption and 1036 00:40:22,960 --> 00:40:24,960 Speaker 5: give out grants and stuff for people that are, you know, 1037 00:40:25,000 --> 00:40:26,879 Speaker 5: struggling with animals and animals need help. 1038 00:40:26,920 --> 00:40:28,240 Speaker 2: So I'm just an animal lover. 1039 00:40:28,440 --> 00:40:32,480 Speaker 3: At r ARF dot com, which is r a r 1040 00:40:32,800 --> 00:40:34,560 Speaker 3: F and you find them on Facebook search for the 1041 00:40:34,640 --> 00:40:37,279 Speaker 3: Ryan Animal Rescue Foundation. We talked about a little bit 1042 00:40:37,320 --> 00:40:39,839 Speaker 3: before you got in here, but I really appreciate the time, man. 1043 00:40:39,880 --> 00:40:41,160 Speaker 2: I could do this for three hours. 1044 00:40:41,200 --> 00:40:45,280 Speaker 3: So yeah, I hope you get picked up by a contender. 1045 00:40:45,360 --> 00:40:48,600 Speaker 3: I hope you still find your fulfillment for plant sports 1046 00:40:48,600 --> 00:40:49,319 Speaker 3: the next couple of years. 1047 00:40:49,320 --> 00:40:50,640 Speaker 2: Whatever makes you feel like you still got it. 1048 00:40:50,680 --> 00:40:51,840 Speaker 3: If you still got it, I hope you get But 1049 00:40:51,840 --> 00:40:53,319 Speaker 3: then when you're done, dude, you're gonna kill it in 1050 00:40:53,360 --> 00:40:53,800 Speaker 3: this space. 1051 00:40:54,200 --> 00:40:56,439 Speaker 5: Yeah, man, I got peace. I'm proud of what I've done. 1052 00:40:56,480 --> 00:40:58,799 Speaker 5: So I'm just honestly, it's a financial decision at this point. 1053 00:40:58,880 --> 00:41:01,960 Speaker 5: I thankfully I had good team and support it where 1054 00:41:02,040 --> 00:41:04,080 Speaker 5: financially I made good decisions where I don't have to 1055 00:41:04,120 --> 00:41:06,520 Speaker 5: do that anymore. And my body is important to me. 1056 00:41:06,640 --> 00:41:08,799 Speaker 5: My time with my family's important to me. So I'm 1057 00:41:08,800 --> 00:41:11,279 Speaker 5: in the one making decisions now and waiting for the 1058 00:41:11,360 --> 00:41:13,239 Speaker 5: right opportunity with the right team. If that doesn't happen 1059 00:41:13,280 --> 00:41:15,439 Speaker 5: and we can do this more often, that's cool too. 1060 00:41:15,600 --> 00:41:17,880 Speaker 5: You know, I'm enjoying it. Yeah, pig Sue, man, I 1061 00:41:17,880 --> 00:41:19,120 Speaker 5: played Arkansas in college. 1062 00:41:19,680 --> 00:41:23,600 Speaker 2: You played against them? Yeah, we beat them. Two picks 1063 00:41:24,200 --> 00:41:24,520 Speaker 2: you had. 1064 00:41:26,800 --> 00:41:29,680 Speaker 3: That's how we cut Oh I did Okay, we whispered 1065 00:41:29,680 --> 00:41:32,160 Speaker 3: the one guy called back. I heard, yeah, probably get 1066 00:41:32,200 --> 00:41:33,560 Speaker 3: what was it like a clip or something. That's how 1067 00:41:33,560 --> 00:41:34,520 Speaker 3: you got it in the first place. 1068 00:41:34,560 --> 00:41:36,440 Speaker 2: I don't know what. Yeah, something I didn't do somebody 1069 00:41:36,480 --> 00:41:41,560 Speaker 2: else else. Follow Logan on Instagram at Logan Ryan appreciate 1070 00:41:41,640 --> 00:41:42,400 Speaker 2: you guys are awesome. 1071 00:41:42,400 --> 00:41:42,560 Speaker 5: Man. 1072 00:41:42,640 --> 00:41:43,960 Speaker 2: It was a big deal to be here, so I 1073 00:41:43,960 --> 00:41:45,080 Speaker 2: appreciate the opportunity. Man. 1074 00:41:45,080 --> 00:41:47,960 Speaker 3: That's crazy, all right, Logan Ryan Everybody. Twenty five Whistles 1075 00:41:47,960 --> 00:41:50,720 Speaker 3: presented by Draft King sports book and official sports betting 1076 00:41:50,719 --> 00:41:53,680 Speaker 3: partner of the NFL. Download the DraftKings app and use 1077 00:41:53,719 --> 00:41:56,000 Speaker 3: the code Bobby Sports to get in on the action. 1078 00:41:56,280 --> 00:41:58,440 Speaker 2: As far as parlays go, I love Bowl. 1079 00:41:58,320 --> 00:42:01,440 Speaker 3: Season because the games matter, but because there are just 1080 00:42:01,440 --> 00:42:02,880 Speaker 3: a lot of games happening at the same time, a 1081 00:42:02,920 --> 00:42:05,080 Speaker 3: lot of gambler that I feel like I'm pretty good 1082 00:42:05,080 --> 00:42:07,640 Speaker 3: at ball season. I do feel pretty good. Yeah, yeah, 1083 00:42:07,640 --> 00:42:10,160 Speaker 3: So I parlays. I'll bet multiple games at once and 1084 00:42:10,200 --> 00:42:12,040 Speaker 3: if they all win, I win. If one of the 1085 00:42:12,080 --> 00:42:14,160 Speaker 3: three or four loses, then you lose, but you get 1086 00:42:14,160 --> 00:42:15,920 Speaker 3: better odds you can hit them all. We love parlays. 1087 00:42:15,960 --> 00:42:17,919 Speaker 3: We haven't been so successful this year though, I'm being honest, 1088 00:42:17,920 --> 00:42:20,080 Speaker 3: No we haven't. But that's the deal. New users use 1089 00:42:20,160 --> 00:42:21,839 Speaker 3: to code Bobby Sports when you download the app. Twenty 1090 00:42:21,840 --> 00:42:24,240 Speaker 3: one and up in most eligible states, but age varies 1091 00:42:24,239 --> 00:42:27,879 Speaker 3: by jurisdiction. Eligibility and deposit restrictions apply. Gambling problem called 1092 00:42:27,880 --> 00:42:29,680 Speaker 3: one hundred gambler in New York call eight seven to 1093 00:42:29,680 --> 00:42:31,480 Speaker 3: seven eight hope and why or text hope and y 1094 00:42:31,760 --> 00:42:37,640 Speaker 3: four six seven three six nine. We're gonna get to 1095 00:42:37,640 --> 00:42:41,799 Speaker 3: another interview with Penn States legendary linebacker LaVar Arrington. He 1096 00:42:41,920 --> 00:42:44,359 Speaker 3: was the second overall pick in two thousand, a three 1097 00:42:44,400 --> 00:42:46,640 Speaker 3: time Pro bowler, a two time All Pro linebacker in 1098 00:42:46,640 --> 00:42:50,640 Speaker 3: the NFL, where he played with Washington with the old Redskins. 1099 00:42:50,960 --> 00:42:53,560 Speaker 2: Yeah, the Redskins, the Redskins and the Giants. 1100 00:42:53,840 --> 00:42:55,600 Speaker 3: Is the show on Fox Sports Radio called Two Pros 1101 00:42:55,640 --> 00:42:57,120 Speaker 3: and a Cup of Joe, which you can listen two 1102 00:42:57,120 --> 00:42:58,640 Speaker 3: weekday mornings or check out the podcast. 1103 00:42:58,719 --> 00:43:01,760 Speaker 2: Here is LeVar Arrington. We're here with LaVar Arrington. 1104 00:43:02,360 --> 00:43:06,400 Speaker 3: So, being a former linebacker, were there ever such obvious 1105 00:43:06,480 --> 00:43:09,799 Speaker 3: tells by watching tape that you knew even before the 1106 00:43:09,800 --> 00:43:14,120 Speaker 3: play started because they didn't self scout themselves And you're like, oh, 1107 00:43:14,160 --> 00:43:15,760 Speaker 3: for sure, I know this play I've seen at seventy 1108 00:43:15,880 --> 00:43:17,719 Speaker 3: Was it ever that easy where you just go, well, 1109 00:43:17,719 --> 00:43:20,359 Speaker 3: he's lined up here and this direction go get it. 1110 00:43:21,040 --> 00:43:23,480 Speaker 4: Have you ever watched my college highlights. 1111 00:43:23,239 --> 00:43:23,839 Speaker 2: At Penn Stay. 1112 00:43:23,960 --> 00:43:26,680 Speaker 3: I've seen like a YouTube greatest hits, but that doesn't 1113 00:43:26,760 --> 00:43:27,600 Speaker 3: count because. 1114 00:43:27,320 --> 00:43:28,239 Speaker 2: It's like you were. 1115 00:43:28,440 --> 00:43:30,640 Speaker 3: You were a man amongst boys that look like they're 1116 00:43:30,680 --> 00:43:32,319 Speaker 3: more so than you're predicting plays. 1117 00:43:32,080 --> 00:43:35,680 Speaker 4: That's that's that's that's film study. That's film study. 1118 00:43:35,719 --> 00:43:39,880 Speaker 6: When you're when you're leaping over lines and hurdling, you know, 1119 00:43:40,080 --> 00:43:42,960 Speaker 6: guys that are trying to block you, that's because you've 1120 00:43:43,000 --> 00:43:46,680 Speaker 6: studied them so much and you found that tendency and 1121 00:43:46,719 --> 00:43:49,000 Speaker 6: you've locked in on a tendency. If a guy drops 1122 00:43:49,040 --> 00:43:52,160 Speaker 6: his head his shoulders following, that means he's trying to 1123 00:43:52,200 --> 00:43:54,600 Speaker 6: chop block you. So you could leap frauding. You know, 1124 00:43:54,640 --> 00:43:56,880 Speaker 6: you make yourself look really good on stuff that you 1125 00:43:56,960 --> 00:43:59,200 Speaker 6: do and look look real cool on the film and 1126 00:43:59,239 --> 00:44:02,000 Speaker 6: the footage that go to like all of the sports outlets, 1127 00:44:02,040 --> 00:44:05,680 Speaker 6: you know what I mean, Bobby. So yet, you absolutely 1128 00:44:06,120 --> 00:44:10,120 Speaker 6: can study not only what the team's personality is as 1129 00:44:10,160 --> 00:44:12,840 Speaker 6: to what they do and downs and distances, but you 1130 00:44:12,880 --> 00:44:17,400 Speaker 6: can also study the players themselves specifically in terms of 1131 00:44:17,400 --> 00:44:20,160 Speaker 6: what it is that they're going to do. So absolutely 1132 00:44:20,239 --> 00:44:22,680 Speaker 6: that's and that's both sides. You got a self scout 1133 00:44:23,000 --> 00:44:27,040 Speaker 6: defensively by position, you got to do it offensively as well. 1134 00:44:27,360 --> 00:44:29,600 Speaker 2: You were drafted second overall on year two thousand. How 1135 00:44:29,640 --> 00:44:34,040 Speaker 2: long until special, Matt? Yeah, special, it's very it's very coo. 1136 00:44:34,560 --> 00:44:35,080 Speaker 2: How long till you? 1137 00:44:35,160 --> 00:44:35,680 Speaker 4: That's what I got. 1138 00:44:35,680 --> 00:44:37,920 Speaker 6: That's that's why I got that nice little, uh, you know, 1139 00:44:38,400 --> 00:44:39,920 Speaker 6: stairwell casing right there? 1140 00:44:39,960 --> 00:44:40,360 Speaker 4: You see that? 1141 00:44:40,640 --> 00:44:42,000 Speaker 2: Yeah, I felt that. You know, you got a lot 1142 00:44:42,000 --> 00:44:43,640 Speaker 2: of money when you got a casing on a stairwell, 1143 00:44:43,719 --> 00:44:46,280 Speaker 2: not just a rail. You know, you like a design 1144 00:44:47,400 --> 00:44:49,080 Speaker 2: like that. How long until you get a paycheck? 1145 00:44:50,160 --> 00:44:52,520 Speaker 3: What you mean when you get drafted like here, he 1146 00:44:52,680 --> 00:44:55,000 Speaker 3: is the number two overall pick at the time. 1147 00:44:54,880 --> 00:44:57,000 Speaker 4: You gotta sign. Well, see that's the thing. You gotta 1148 00:44:57,080 --> 00:44:57,680 Speaker 4: be signed. 1149 00:44:58,360 --> 00:45:01,560 Speaker 6: So you're drafted and they said that they are taking you, 1150 00:45:01,640 --> 00:45:04,399 Speaker 6: but you still got to get a contract done. When 1151 00:45:04,400 --> 00:45:06,359 Speaker 6: you go number one, you go number two, you can 1152 00:45:06,400 --> 00:45:09,440 Speaker 6: get started on that process immediately. That could actually happen 1153 00:45:09,800 --> 00:45:13,120 Speaker 6: before they even call your name. Sometimes it drags out 1154 00:45:13,120 --> 00:45:16,240 Speaker 6: and they call guys holdouts, but you really, in theory 1155 00:45:16,440 --> 00:45:18,919 Speaker 6: and by definition, you can't really be a holdout because 1156 00:45:18,920 --> 00:45:21,879 Speaker 6: you haven't been officially hired, right, You got to sign 1157 00:45:21,920 --> 00:45:24,319 Speaker 6: the paperwork. You guys got to agree to the deal, 1158 00:45:24,360 --> 00:45:26,880 Speaker 6: and now you've become an employee of the team. So 1159 00:45:26,920 --> 00:45:29,680 Speaker 6: sometimes it gets done quick, sometimes it doesn't. I mean, 1160 00:45:29,719 --> 00:45:34,600 Speaker 6: now with the slotting of contracts coming into the league, 1161 00:45:35,320 --> 00:45:38,560 Speaker 6: it's pretty easy, like you're not going to have guys 1162 00:45:38,600 --> 00:45:42,319 Speaker 6: holding out. There's like a few things that you have 1163 00:45:42,400 --> 00:45:45,520 Speaker 6: to talk through in terms of guarantees and options and 1164 00:45:45,560 --> 00:45:48,520 Speaker 6: stuff like that, but pretty much the contract is pretty 1165 00:45:48,600 --> 00:45:51,319 Speaker 6: much the contract for rookies coming into the draft, which 1166 00:45:51,360 --> 00:45:53,400 Speaker 6: it was a little different in two thousand when. 1167 00:45:53,239 --> 00:45:53,680 Speaker 4: I came in. 1168 00:45:53,800 --> 00:45:57,560 Speaker 6: We actually negotiated a deal and you could actually get 1169 00:45:57,560 --> 00:46:01,640 Speaker 6: a really really favorable and big deal before having ever 1170 00:46:01,680 --> 00:46:04,440 Speaker 6: played a down of football in the league. So it 1171 00:46:04,719 --> 00:46:07,799 Speaker 6: depends you could get it as early as the night 1172 00:46:07,840 --> 00:46:09,640 Speaker 6: before the draft, before they call your name. 1173 00:46:09,680 --> 00:46:11,120 Speaker 4: If you're the number one guy. 1174 00:46:11,200 --> 00:46:13,959 Speaker 6: You could have your deal done before you they even 1175 00:46:13,960 --> 00:46:16,960 Speaker 6: call your name, or it could go well into camp 1176 00:46:17,040 --> 00:46:18,200 Speaker 6: before you get a deal done. 1177 00:46:18,400 --> 00:46:20,000 Speaker 2: But how long until you felt like you were rich? 1178 00:46:20,520 --> 00:46:23,360 Speaker 4: I was never poor though, yeah, but rich. 1179 00:46:23,200 --> 00:46:25,319 Speaker 3: And poor and not poor two different things. You don't 1180 00:46:25,440 --> 00:46:26,520 Speaker 3: you don't get a casing like that. 1181 00:46:27,520 --> 00:46:32,399 Speaker 6: Wealthy I'll say ahead, when did I feel wealthy. Probably, 1182 00:46:33,960 --> 00:46:35,920 Speaker 6: I don't know. I don't think I've ever felt wealthy. 1183 00:46:36,680 --> 00:46:39,640 Speaker 6: I don't think i've ever first first. 1184 00:46:39,400 --> 00:46:42,280 Speaker 2: Time that check hits, I'm feeling pretty good, you're. 1185 00:46:42,160 --> 00:46:43,160 Speaker 4: Feeling I felt. 1186 00:46:43,360 --> 00:46:46,520 Speaker 6: I felt good, you know, I'll tell you I probably 1187 00:46:46,600 --> 00:46:49,439 Speaker 6: only looked at three or four texts. 1188 00:46:49,080 --> 00:46:50,080 Speaker 4: In my entire career. 1189 00:46:50,160 --> 00:46:54,520 Speaker 6: Man, Like, I just I made sure my money was 1190 00:46:54,520 --> 00:46:58,279 Speaker 6: was in in the proper places, but I just never was. 1191 00:46:58,640 --> 00:47:02,440 Speaker 4: It never was big to me to obsess over it, 1192 00:47:02,600 --> 00:47:02,799 Speaker 4: you know. 1193 00:47:02,840 --> 00:47:05,400 Speaker 6: I felt like, you did it for so long to 1194 00:47:05,600 --> 00:47:07,960 Speaker 6: get to where you can make that that type of 1195 00:47:08,520 --> 00:47:10,839 Speaker 6: you know, that type of wage doing what it is 1196 00:47:10,840 --> 00:47:13,080 Speaker 6: that you love to do. So once I made it, 1197 00:47:13,160 --> 00:47:14,959 Speaker 6: I kind of felt like if I got too deep 1198 00:47:15,040 --> 00:47:16,600 Speaker 6: into that aspect. 1199 00:47:16,160 --> 00:47:18,680 Speaker 4: Of it, I might lose the essence of who I was. 1200 00:47:19,120 --> 00:47:21,439 Speaker 6: So I still stayed hungry, like I had never even 1201 00:47:21,480 --> 00:47:25,440 Speaker 6: accomplished or achieved anything, you know, to begin with. I mean, 1202 00:47:25,480 --> 00:47:27,880 Speaker 6: I did walk into a Ferrari dealership with with a 1203 00:47:27,880 --> 00:47:30,359 Speaker 6: pair of like raggedy shorts on and and a torn 1204 00:47:30,480 --> 00:47:35,600 Speaker 6: up practice T shirt and some flip flops and mess 1205 00:47:35,640 --> 00:47:38,640 Speaker 6: around with a salesperson, and they wanted to kick me 1206 00:47:38,680 --> 00:47:41,640 Speaker 6: out and have me remove from the premises, and and 1207 00:47:41,680 --> 00:47:44,200 Speaker 6: I did end up buying a three sixty Medina right 1208 00:47:44,239 --> 00:47:49,640 Speaker 6: there on the spot from from the actual another salesperson 1209 00:47:49,680 --> 00:47:52,240 Speaker 6: who came out and was actually very cordial and kind 1210 00:47:52,320 --> 00:47:52,600 Speaker 6: to me. 1211 00:47:53,680 --> 00:47:54,040 Speaker 4: I did. 1212 00:47:54,280 --> 00:47:59,680 Speaker 6: I did flex a few times. I definitely flexed, but 1213 00:48:00,040 --> 00:48:02,319 Speaker 6: I just wasn't obsessed by it. So I don't know 1214 00:48:02,360 --> 00:48:04,480 Speaker 6: that I ever felt like I was like, Oh, you 1215 00:48:04,600 --> 00:48:06,640 Speaker 6: made it, and oh you're rich and stuff like that. 1216 00:48:06,760 --> 00:48:09,360 Speaker 6: I've just always kind of been on to the next. 1217 00:48:09,400 --> 00:48:12,640 Speaker 6: It's like just trying to keep accomplishing. And that might 1218 00:48:12,680 --> 00:48:15,160 Speaker 6: be a corny answer, but Bobby, I'm just telling you, 1219 00:48:15,520 --> 00:48:17,560 Speaker 6: I'm still like that to this day. That's why I'm 1220 00:48:17,560 --> 00:48:19,879 Speaker 6: on this phone call interview with you, right because I'm 1221 00:48:19,920 --> 00:48:23,080 Speaker 6: with iHeart, I'm with Fox Sports Radio. I just continue 1222 00:48:23,120 --> 00:48:25,480 Speaker 6: to just kind of keep building what it is that 1223 00:48:25,520 --> 00:48:25,839 Speaker 6: I do. 1224 00:48:25,960 --> 00:48:27,720 Speaker 4: Just stay hungry, umbling hungry. 1225 00:48:27,880 --> 00:48:31,359 Speaker 3: I was listening to Calhart's podcast and I heard Up 1226 00:48:31,360 --> 00:48:33,040 Speaker 3: on Game come on the promo you guys do for 1227 00:48:33,200 --> 00:48:35,840 Speaker 3: Up on Game, and it was it's you and who's 1228 00:48:35,880 --> 00:48:39,160 Speaker 3: Manzada and Plexico And Yeah, I was like, dang, that 1229 00:48:39,239 --> 00:48:42,600 Speaker 3: is like a legit group of guys here talking about Yeah. 1230 00:48:42,680 --> 00:48:43,800 Speaker 4: So I appreciate. 1231 00:48:43,960 --> 00:48:46,400 Speaker 2: How did you three come together to do this show? 1232 00:48:46,760 --> 00:48:49,480 Speaker 4: Well, I was an evil scientist. You know. 1233 00:48:49,960 --> 00:48:55,240 Speaker 6: Receivers are the most touched special individuals. 1234 00:48:54,520 --> 00:48:56,640 Speaker 4: That you'll ever meet that that play football. 1235 00:48:57,440 --> 00:49:01,680 Speaker 6: So they're very they're very uh interesting, we'll say, and 1236 00:49:01,800 --> 00:49:05,319 Speaker 6: how they view the world around them. And TJ and 1237 00:49:05,360 --> 00:49:10,080 Speaker 6: Plexico even in particular, more specifically, are very touched and 1238 00:49:10,239 --> 00:49:16,320 Speaker 6: very special. TJ has such a strong, pronounced underdog boulder 1239 00:49:16,360 --> 00:49:20,400 Speaker 6: on his shoulder type of approach, and Plexico is just 1240 00:49:20,640 --> 00:49:25,799 Speaker 6: real smooth and just very very laid back, unassuming but 1241 00:49:25,880 --> 00:49:29,800 Speaker 6: yet very opinionated type of dude. And I just like 1242 00:49:29,960 --> 00:49:33,839 Speaker 6: being the one that kind of facilitates the discussions. As 1243 00:49:33,880 --> 00:49:37,160 Speaker 6: a linebacker, I like to create and instigate like we 1244 00:49:37,239 --> 00:49:40,000 Speaker 6: did in the locker rooms and sit back and see 1245 00:49:40,000 --> 00:49:41,560 Speaker 6: what color the wall is going to be. Once you 1246 00:49:41,640 --> 00:49:43,560 Speaker 6: throw something out there and you get it started, you 1247 00:49:43,600 --> 00:49:46,839 Speaker 6: get it popping, then you start to realize that, you know, 1248 00:49:47,600 --> 00:49:51,000 Speaker 6: you hear a lot of cool things being tossed around 1249 00:49:51,400 --> 00:49:53,160 Speaker 6: in terms of what it would sound like if you 1250 00:49:53,200 --> 00:49:55,640 Speaker 6: were sitting in the locker room listening to a conversation 1251 00:49:55,800 --> 00:49:56,360 Speaker 6: take place. 1252 00:49:57,120 --> 00:49:59,239 Speaker 3: You guys can check out Levar's podcast network it's also 1253 00:49:59,280 --> 00:50:01,719 Speaker 3: called Up on Game. They have close to fifteen shows 1254 00:50:01,960 --> 00:50:04,359 Speaker 3: you can subscribe. Just go search for Up on Game 1255 00:50:04,440 --> 00:50:07,120 Speaker 3: on the iHeartRadio app or wherever you get your podcasts. 1256 00:50:07,560 --> 00:50:09,560 Speaker 2: Final question, LeVar, who was. 1257 00:50:09,520 --> 00:50:13,040 Speaker 3: The quarterback that you hated being lined up across from 1258 00:50:13,080 --> 00:50:15,040 Speaker 3: because he was also reading you as much as you 1259 00:50:15,080 --> 00:50:16,480 Speaker 3: were reading him, if not more. 1260 00:50:16,840 --> 00:50:20,200 Speaker 6: Quarterback that I didn't like the most, that I hated 1261 00:50:20,280 --> 00:50:21,399 Speaker 6: the most. 1262 00:50:21,520 --> 00:50:22,520 Speaker 2: And not personally. 1263 00:50:22,560 --> 00:50:25,880 Speaker 3: But you knew you also couldn't fall into your tendencies 1264 00:50:25,880 --> 00:50:28,600 Speaker 3: because if he sees you do this, he's going to 1265 00:50:28,680 --> 00:50:29,680 Speaker 3: exactly where you're going. 1266 00:50:30,360 --> 00:50:38,600 Speaker 4: Pete Manning, dopest quarterback ever to me, what separated his ACU? Simple? 1267 00:50:39,000 --> 00:50:42,719 Speaker 6: He just it was he was like a cyborg half man, 1268 00:50:42,800 --> 00:50:47,040 Speaker 6: half machine man, half half computer, half like artificial intelligence, 1269 00:50:47,120 --> 00:50:50,839 Speaker 6: like a cyborg type dude, you know, and you could 1270 00:50:50,840 --> 00:50:57,800 Speaker 6: tell he was analyzed. Dear, do that just read alert 1271 00:50:58,040 --> 00:51:02,360 Speaker 6: like like real real computer like man like Peyton Manning 1272 00:51:02,480 --> 00:51:02,759 Speaker 6: was to do. 1273 00:51:03,280 --> 00:51:06,000 Speaker 3: Listen, you guys, go subscribed up on Game and you 1274 00:51:06,000 --> 00:51:08,640 Speaker 3: can see all the shows. Check out the show Up 1275 00:51:08,680 --> 00:51:11,320 Speaker 3: on Game. And then also, you know, two pros on 1276 00:51:11,360 --> 00:51:11,839 Speaker 3: a couple of Joe. 1277 00:51:11,880 --> 00:51:14,480 Speaker 2: It sounds like you're always giving your opinion on something 1278 00:51:14,520 --> 00:51:15,919 Speaker 2: like you are in the opinion game. 1279 00:51:15,960 --> 00:51:18,320 Speaker 3: Now you're on every show. You got, like seventeen shows 1280 00:51:18,320 --> 00:51:20,640 Speaker 3: you're doing here. So congratulations, Hey. 1281 00:51:20,440 --> 00:51:23,120 Speaker 4: Bobby Bones, appreciate it, man, I appreciate the plug. I 1282 00:51:23,160 --> 00:51:24,879 Speaker 4: appreciate you having me on that LeVar. 1283 00:51:24,960 --> 00:51:26,600 Speaker 2: Good to talk to you, buddy. Hopefully I'll see you soon. 1284 00:51:27,320 --> 00:51:28,759 Speaker 4: Sounds good, man, Appreciate you all. 1285 00:51:28,800 --> 00:51:32,680 Speaker 3: Bye, It's time for the parade in Pasadena. 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Hey, 1296 00:51:57,880 --> 00:52:01,440 Speaker 3: thanks for listening to this second special rounds of interviews 1297 00:52:01,520 --> 00:52:03,319 Speaker 3: during the holiday season. What a great year of twenty 1298 00:52:03,360 --> 00:52:05,880 Speaker 3: five Whistles. Thanks to you guys for listening. Follow us 1299 00:52:05,920 --> 00:52:08,840 Speaker 3: at twenty five Whistles or meet at mister Bobby Bones. 1300 00:52:08,920 --> 00:52:10,160 Speaker 3: Thanks again for listening, and I hope you have a 1301 00:52:10,200 --> 00:52:12,040 Speaker 3: great New Year weekend and we'll see you in twenty 1302 00:52:12,040 --> 00:52:12,480 Speaker 3: twenty four.