1 00:00:06,920 --> 00:00:10,600 Speaker 1: The Jesse Kelly Show. Another hour of The Jesse Kelly 2 00:00:10,640 --> 00:00:13,960 Speaker 1: Show on a Thursday. Can't you taste the weekend? It's 3 00:00:13,960 --> 00:00:18,759 Speaker 1: almost here and tomorrow is an asked doctor Jesse Friday. 4 00:00:19,040 --> 00:00:23,040 Speaker 1: Ask me anything, but you got asked by email Jesse 5 00:00:23,440 --> 00:00:28,160 Speaker 1: at Jesse Kelly Show dot com. Jesse at Jesse Kelly 6 00:00:28,200 --> 00:00:31,520 Speaker 1: Show dot com. Get him in now. I do think 7 00:00:31,560 --> 00:00:33,839 Speaker 1: it is hilarious before before I go, I'm gonna get 8 00:00:33,880 --> 00:00:36,120 Speaker 1: to this history story and we're gonna make fun of 9 00:00:36,200 --> 00:00:41,440 Speaker 1: John Carey. But it's hilarious and sad how quickly we 10 00:00:41,600 --> 00:00:46,760 Speaker 1: forgot about all the unvetted people who came here from Afghanistan? 11 00:00:46,840 --> 00:00:49,600 Speaker 1: Do you think MAGA Republicans are more of a threat 12 00:00:49,600 --> 00:00:53,120 Speaker 1: to the country than people DHS says may pose a 13 00:00:53,280 --> 00:00:58,440 Speaker 1: risk to national security and the safety of local communities. Again, 14 00:00:58,600 --> 00:01:02,840 Speaker 1: DHS has disputed this report and it said it didn't 15 00:01:02,880 --> 00:01:06,800 Speaker 1: take into account the key steps that we have taken 16 00:01:06,959 --> 00:01:11,800 Speaker 1: as a US government, the rigorous, multilayered screening and vetting 17 00:01:11,840 --> 00:01:14,520 Speaker 1: process that we take as a government that was not 18 00:01:14,720 --> 00:01:18,640 Speaker 1: part of the report. Again, this report is not accurate. 19 00:01:19,600 --> 00:01:21,959 Speaker 1: I know that our team has spoken to your team 20 00:01:21,959 --> 00:01:26,399 Speaker 1: about this, and the DHS has provided a comment saying 21 00:01:26,520 --> 00:01:30,280 Speaker 1: just that, So again I refer it to DHS. You 22 00:01:30,360 --> 00:01:34,840 Speaker 1: gotta love when the DHS refutes their own report. At 23 00:01:34,880 --> 00:01:38,320 Speaker 1: the DHS, they said there's some dangerous people in there. 24 00:01:38,560 --> 00:01:41,640 Speaker 1: Then someone at the DHS got a phone call the 25 00:01:41,760 --> 00:01:45,720 Speaker 1: DHS says, the DHS is full of crap. No, they're 26 00:01:45,720 --> 00:01:48,400 Speaker 1: all fine. No, it's just a bunch of librarians and 27 00:01:48,520 --> 00:01:51,560 Speaker 1: doctors that came over from Afghanistan. Yeah, it's definitely not 28 00:01:51,920 --> 00:01:56,120 Speaker 1: one of the foremost terrorists hotbeds on the planet. Anyway, Jesse. 29 00:01:57,640 --> 00:02:01,040 Speaker 1: Listen to your Wednesday show on podcast. By the way, 30 00:02:01,080 --> 00:02:02,800 Speaker 1: if you miss any part of the show, you can 31 00:02:02,840 --> 00:02:05,760 Speaker 1: catch the whole thing on podcast. They podcast the whole show. 32 00:02:06,440 --> 00:02:10,360 Speaker 1: iHeart Google, Spotify and iTunes has all three hours, even 33 00:02:10,400 --> 00:02:12,840 Speaker 1: though they're all broken up, which is really stupid. Listen 34 00:02:12,960 --> 00:02:15,600 Speaker 1: to your Wednesday show on podcast. I'm reminded of a 35 00:02:15,639 --> 00:02:19,360 Speaker 1: fascinating tale about the Donner Party. They got stranded in 36 00:02:19,400 --> 00:02:22,480 Speaker 1: the mountains all winter, ended up eating things as they died, 37 00:02:22,600 --> 00:02:26,080 Speaker 1: including humans. When they didn't die fast enough, A few 38 00:02:26,120 --> 00:02:30,200 Speaker 1: people helped them along. A horrible story. Carry on. My 39 00:02:30,280 --> 00:02:32,520 Speaker 1: brother says, I can say his name. His name is 40 00:02:32,520 --> 00:02:37,200 Speaker 1: Steve now, look, I like reading stories like this and 41 00:02:37,760 --> 00:02:43,600 Speaker 1: talking about history stories because they're so dramatic and horrible, 42 00:02:44,280 --> 00:02:47,760 Speaker 1: and I try to put myself in those stories. It's 43 00:02:47,800 --> 00:02:49,800 Speaker 1: probably why you do, to try to put yourself in 44 00:02:49,840 --> 00:02:53,480 Speaker 1: the stories and try to imagine, gosh, what what would 45 00:02:53,480 --> 00:02:55,720 Speaker 1: that have been like? How would you react? What would 46 00:02:55,720 --> 00:02:59,960 Speaker 1: you do? And I've talked about this before. As America, 47 00:03:01,040 --> 00:03:05,840 Speaker 1: we think we know as a country, we think we 48 00:03:06,000 --> 00:03:12,160 Speaker 1: know tragedy and loss in poverty. And I need to 49 00:03:12,200 --> 00:03:16,360 Speaker 1: be clear about this. I understand you personally do on 50 00:03:16,440 --> 00:03:18,840 Speaker 1: a personal level, I ever run experiences this because that's 51 00:03:18,880 --> 00:03:22,640 Speaker 1: part of life, ups and downs, peaks and valleys. One 52 00:03:22,720 --> 00:03:24,480 Speaker 1: day you get a job promotion, the next day your 53 00:03:24,520 --> 00:03:27,919 Speaker 1: wife dies. That's life. That's part of life. It's horrible 54 00:03:28,040 --> 00:03:30,520 Speaker 1: and wonderful, and that's just part of the experience. So 55 00:03:30,560 --> 00:03:34,160 Speaker 1: I'm not I'm not discounting any personal tragedy you've had, 56 00:03:34,400 --> 00:03:40,400 Speaker 1: but I'm talking about a nation as a whole. Frank Siller, 57 00:03:41,000 --> 00:03:43,440 Speaker 1: Frank Siller with Tunnel to Towers, came on the show 58 00:03:43,560 --> 00:03:47,680 Speaker 1: yesterday and he's talking about how, on top of paying 59 00:03:48,120 --> 00:03:51,000 Speaker 1: for homes for widows and orphans, which is freaking wonderful, 60 00:03:51,040 --> 00:03:53,200 Speaker 1: what they do. They pay off mortgages for widows and 61 00:03:53,280 --> 00:03:57,000 Speaker 1: orphans of first responder families and gold Star families. Now 62 00:03:57,040 --> 00:04:00,480 Speaker 1: they have a Tunnel to Towers Institute where they're putting 63 00:04:00,520 --> 00:04:03,200 Speaker 1: this in the curriculum so classes can learn about nine 64 00:04:03,200 --> 00:04:05,680 Speaker 1: to eleven. And I think I agree with Frank. I 65 00:04:05,680 --> 00:04:08,560 Speaker 1: think it's important we remember this. And by the way, 66 00:04:09,240 --> 00:04:12,400 Speaker 1: all they ask is eleven bucks a month. Eleven dollars 67 00:04:12,400 --> 00:04:17,080 Speaker 1: a month, go to t the number two t dot org. 68 00:04:17,680 --> 00:04:20,839 Speaker 1: Sign up to automatically give eleven bucks a month. That's 69 00:04:20,880 --> 00:04:23,880 Speaker 1: paying for an institute to educate kids, that's paying for 70 00:04:23,920 --> 00:04:27,080 Speaker 1: widows and orphans. That's doing the work all right, t 71 00:04:27,080 --> 00:04:32,080 Speaker 1: twot dot org. But but speaking of nine eleven, what 72 00:04:32,120 --> 00:04:33,920 Speaker 1: do you think about When you think about nine to eleven? 73 00:04:35,000 --> 00:04:38,159 Speaker 1: You think about how many Americans died, And that's what 74 00:04:38,240 --> 00:04:40,800 Speaker 1: I think about. You think about the anger you had 75 00:04:40,839 --> 00:04:43,080 Speaker 1: that day, the sadness you had that day. I'm right 76 00:04:43,120 --> 00:04:46,040 Speaker 1: there with you. That's what I think about. We think 77 00:04:47,640 --> 00:04:53,919 Speaker 1: nine eleven was a unique tragedy and uniquely horrible. And 78 00:04:54,000 --> 00:04:56,560 Speaker 1: here's the thing, we're right and we're wrong. We're right, 79 00:04:56,880 --> 00:05:00,479 Speaker 1: and that it was a unique horrible tra magity for 80 00:05:00,600 --> 00:05:04,320 Speaker 1: us as Americans, but you expand that to the world. 81 00:05:05,680 --> 00:05:10,240 Speaker 1: Three thousand dead. That's a bad afternoon in some places. 82 00:05:12,040 --> 00:05:14,880 Speaker 1: Real tragedy, real loss, real stuff like we think we 83 00:05:15,000 --> 00:05:21,160 Speaker 1: know poverty. Our poor people are fat. And I'm not 84 00:05:21,200 --> 00:05:25,720 Speaker 1: being insulting to poor people or fat people, but if 85 00:05:25,760 --> 00:05:30,640 Speaker 1: you're fat, you don't really know poverty. Oh. I know, 86 00:05:30,720 --> 00:05:33,279 Speaker 1: you may not own a car, you may be in debt, 87 00:05:34,120 --> 00:05:36,880 Speaker 1: maybe your credit score is bad, maybe they shut the 88 00:05:36,880 --> 00:05:41,480 Speaker 1: power off. But if you're fat, you don't know poverty. 89 00:05:41,839 --> 00:05:44,960 Speaker 1: We think that's poor. We think we look at, say, 90 00:05:44,960 --> 00:05:49,039 Speaker 1: a bad neighborhood, and we see some lady in ratty 91 00:05:49,120 --> 00:05:52,080 Speaker 1: clues walking around and we think, oh, man, that sucks. 92 00:05:52,080 --> 00:05:55,520 Speaker 1: She's poor. And look, everything's relative compared to you. She 93 00:05:55,760 --> 00:06:04,400 Speaker 1: is poor. People are skinny. Starving people are skinny. They 94 00:06:04,440 --> 00:06:09,560 Speaker 1: look hollowed out, they look half dead. And stories of 95 00:06:09,600 --> 00:06:13,440 Speaker 1: tragedy and loss bring home just how bad it can get. 96 00:06:13,839 --> 00:06:16,359 Speaker 1: I've talked to you a lot about Stalin and the 97 00:06:16,400 --> 00:06:19,800 Speaker 1: Holodomor and him starving all those Ukrainians to death, and 98 00:06:19,800 --> 00:06:22,560 Speaker 1: we've told horrible stories from that. The Donner Party is 99 00:06:22,600 --> 00:06:26,520 Speaker 1: one of those things. I love the story because it's 100 00:06:26,560 --> 00:06:29,800 Speaker 1: tragic and horrible, but because it's a lesson for human nature. 101 00:06:30,240 --> 00:06:33,920 Speaker 1: I was joking around and I had asked Chris earlier 102 00:06:34,560 --> 00:06:37,039 Speaker 1: what part of the people he would eat, and Chris said, 103 00:06:37,040 --> 00:06:39,200 Speaker 1: it's not kosher. I'm not eating it. I'm not doing it. 104 00:06:39,240 --> 00:06:41,240 Speaker 1: If you were to ask me right now, I would 105 00:06:41,240 --> 00:06:43,720 Speaker 1: tell you no, I'm not going to eat anybody. Guess what. 106 00:06:44,240 --> 00:06:49,760 Speaker 1: Chris and me are both liars. Yes you would, Chris, Yes, 107 00:06:49,800 --> 00:06:54,680 Speaker 1: I would. You've never been hungry enough. Here's a little 108 00:06:54,720 --> 00:07:00,960 Speaker 1: history story the Organ Trail. The push westward. The Oregon 109 00:07:01,040 --> 00:07:03,919 Speaker 1: Trail was well, I know you're gonna find this shocking, 110 00:07:03,920 --> 00:07:07,520 Speaker 1: a trail to get to Oregon, but that's too simplistic. 111 00:07:07,760 --> 00:07:10,120 Speaker 1: It eventually branched off and it was a trail to 112 00:07:10,200 --> 00:07:12,920 Speaker 1: get from the east to Oregon, or to Montana or 113 00:07:12,960 --> 00:07:16,320 Speaker 1: the California. It turned into the California Trail. There's a 114 00:07:16,320 --> 00:07:18,960 Speaker 1: whole history behind it. We all of a sudden had 115 00:07:19,000 --> 00:07:22,440 Speaker 1: all this new territory out west, and people were figuring 116 00:07:22,440 --> 00:07:24,640 Speaker 1: out that, Wow, the weather's nice out there, it's a 117 00:07:24,640 --> 00:07:27,720 Speaker 1: cool place. There's opportunity. I can have a new start. 118 00:07:27,760 --> 00:07:30,160 Speaker 1: Who doesn't want a new start? Right? New start? New 119 00:07:30,200 --> 00:07:33,000 Speaker 1: beginnings so much the same reason. A lot of people 120 00:07:33,000 --> 00:07:36,160 Speaker 1: are moving now, like say, from from a big city 121 00:07:36,600 --> 00:07:39,960 Speaker 1: to a more rural red area. Now, it's what they 122 00:07:39,960 --> 00:07:41,480 Speaker 1: were doing back then. It was just a lot more 123 00:07:41,560 --> 00:07:44,760 Speaker 1: dangerous back then than it is now today. You're tired 124 00:07:44,760 --> 00:07:47,120 Speaker 1: of your blue city and the dumbmass sun kids and 125 00:07:47,200 --> 00:07:49,680 Speaker 1: the vaccine stuff and the crime, and so what are 126 00:07:49,680 --> 00:07:52,400 Speaker 1: you gonna do. You're gonna get call realtor put your 127 00:07:52,440 --> 00:07:55,520 Speaker 1: home for sale, and then that lady's gonna show up. 128 00:07:55,560 --> 00:07:57,480 Speaker 1: Sell your home. Don't let her rip you off by 129 00:07:57,520 --> 00:07:59,320 Speaker 1: the way, sell your home. You're gonna go buy a 130 00:07:59,320 --> 00:08:03,559 Speaker 1: new home and nice community. You gotta get a moving truck, 131 00:08:03,560 --> 00:08:05,320 Speaker 1: probably if you get some moving guys to help you 132 00:08:05,400 --> 00:08:07,520 Speaker 1: load it up and driving the air conditioning across the 133 00:08:07,560 --> 00:08:11,040 Speaker 1: country and move into your new home. That's not how 134 00:08:11,040 --> 00:08:14,000 Speaker 1: it worked back then. Back then, if you wanted to 135 00:08:14,000 --> 00:08:17,000 Speaker 1: get from east to west, you loaded all your stuff 136 00:08:17,080 --> 00:08:20,280 Speaker 1: up in a wagon train. You didn't go by yourself, 137 00:08:20,360 --> 00:08:22,960 Speaker 1: or you'd die. The Indians or the weather or something else. 138 00:08:23,280 --> 00:08:26,360 Speaker 1: They would load up. These were all organized parties, well 139 00:08:26,360 --> 00:08:28,560 Speaker 1: I should say most of the part they were organized. 140 00:08:28,600 --> 00:08:30,520 Speaker 1: There were whole companies that would do this for you. 141 00:08:30,600 --> 00:08:33,680 Speaker 1: It was kind of the moving guys back in the day. Hey, 142 00:08:33,720 --> 00:08:35,600 Speaker 1: we will lead you out there. We know the trail, 143 00:08:36,000 --> 00:08:39,520 Speaker 1: we know the way. Gather up with your whole family here, 144 00:08:39,559 --> 00:08:41,480 Speaker 1: and we're taking their old family with us, and we're 145 00:08:41,480 --> 00:08:43,080 Speaker 1: all going to load up and we're heading out west. 146 00:08:43,960 --> 00:08:46,360 Speaker 1: And it was very, very dangerous because the west was 147 00:08:46,400 --> 00:08:49,640 Speaker 1: not secured from Indians. There were still hostile Indian tribes 148 00:08:49,679 --> 00:08:51,760 Speaker 1: who didn't feel like they should give up their lands 149 00:08:51,800 --> 00:08:54,280 Speaker 1: at all. You had to worry about that. You had 150 00:08:54,320 --> 00:08:56,400 Speaker 1: to worry about the animals. You had to worry about 151 00:08:56,400 --> 00:08:58,320 Speaker 1: the weather. You had to worry about a whole lot 152 00:08:58,360 --> 00:09:01,760 Speaker 1: of things. And when I say weather, here's what I mean. 153 00:09:03,080 --> 00:09:08,400 Speaker 1: When you took off, like from Missouri Springfield. Actually specifically 154 00:09:08,400 --> 00:09:11,040 Speaker 1: when it comes to this story, when you take off 155 00:09:11,080 --> 00:09:15,120 Speaker 1: from Springfield and you're heading out west, you're heading out 156 00:09:15,280 --> 00:09:19,520 Speaker 1: now we're adding west. You have to pick the right 157 00:09:19,520 --> 00:09:23,280 Speaker 1: time of year to do that. And boy, you better 158 00:09:23,320 --> 00:09:26,920 Speaker 1: time that correctly. You really better time that correctly, because 159 00:09:26,920 --> 00:09:29,680 Speaker 1: if you do not, the snow is going to begin 160 00:09:29,760 --> 00:09:33,040 Speaker 1: falling in the rocky mountains and you're going to freeze 161 00:09:33,040 --> 00:09:36,640 Speaker 1: to death. The Donner Party, it's just the worst story 162 00:09:36,760 --> 00:09:39,320 Speaker 1: in the world because when you know how it ends, 163 00:09:39,320 --> 00:09:40,960 Speaker 1: which you already do know how it ends. I'll get 164 00:09:41,000 --> 00:09:42,920 Speaker 1: there in a minute. When you know how it ends, 165 00:09:43,240 --> 00:09:46,040 Speaker 1: it makes all the lead up to the story so tragic, 166 00:09:46,880 --> 00:09:50,960 Speaker 1: because it was just little thing after little thing after 167 00:09:51,040 --> 00:09:53,600 Speaker 1: little thing would go wrong. This went wrong, and this 168 00:09:53,720 --> 00:09:56,920 Speaker 1: caused a delay. This went wrong, and this caused a delay. 169 00:09:57,160 --> 00:09:59,200 Speaker 1: Then they moved it here, but then this went wrong, 170 00:09:59,240 --> 00:10:03,040 Speaker 1: and this cause the delay. And they believe some charlatan 171 00:10:03,400 --> 00:10:05,400 Speaker 1: who told them that there was a better way than 172 00:10:05,480 --> 00:10:09,040 Speaker 1: the way everyone else had been taken. Always be wary 173 00:10:09,120 --> 00:10:11,520 Speaker 1: of the guy who says he is the one who 174 00:10:11,559 --> 00:10:15,040 Speaker 1: knows the only better way anyway. But it was delay 175 00:10:15,080 --> 00:10:19,040 Speaker 1: after delay after delay after delay, and finally when they 176 00:10:19,040 --> 00:10:21,800 Speaker 1: get up there and they're trying to get through the pass, 177 00:10:21,920 --> 00:10:24,240 Speaker 1: they're through the mountain pass, which they have to get 178 00:10:24,240 --> 00:10:28,600 Speaker 1: through before the snowfalls, they find they missed it. The 179 00:10:28,720 --> 00:10:35,520 Speaker 1: snow fell the day before. All these endless delays make 180 00:10:35,559 --> 00:10:38,880 Speaker 1: the story that much more horrific when you figure out 181 00:10:39,160 --> 00:10:44,240 Speaker 1: they actually could have made it had even one of 182 00:10:44,280 --> 00:10:49,480 Speaker 1: those delays not happened. Nevertheless, they got up there, the 183 00:10:49,640 --> 00:10:53,360 Speaker 1: snow fell. Snow drifts too thick, you can't get the 184 00:10:53,400 --> 00:10:56,480 Speaker 1: oxen through them, can't get the wagons through them, and 185 00:10:56,600 --> 00:11:00,520 Speaker 1: so you had to retreat into the Sierra Nevada Mountains 186 00:11:00,800 --> 00:11:04,160 Speaker 1: with snow falling all around you and figure out how 187 00:11:04,200 --> 00:11:08,640 Speaker 1: to survive when all the food is running out. How'd 188 00:11:08,640 --> 00:11:10,520 Speaker 1: that turn out? Well, you probably already know, but I'll 189 00:11:10,559 --> 00:11:12,400 Speaker 1: finish that and then we'll make fun of John Kerry 190 00:11:12,440 --> 00:11:16,840 Speaker 1: for his private plane. Hang on, miss something. There's a podcast, 191 00:11:17,400 --> 00:11:22,000 Speaker 1: Get it on demand wherever podcasts are found, The Jesse 192 00:11:22,160 --> 00:11:30,640 Speaker 1: Kelly Show. What indeed it is The Jesse Kelly Show 193 00:11:30,800 --> 00:11:33,840 Speaker 1: on a Thursday night. I'm going to finish a Donner 194 00:11:33,920 --> 00:11:36,240 Speaker 1: Party story here real quick as we do another little 195 00:11:36,280 --> 00:11:39,240 Speaker 1: history rewind. I just can't quit. I can't get enough 196 00:11:39,520 --> 00:11:42,920 Speaker 1: of these cities like New York and DC complaining about 197 00:11:42,960 --> 00:11:46,079 Speaker 1: illegal immigrants coming in. Oh no, we're a border town. 198 00:11:46,520 --> 00:11:50,600 Speaker 1: So it's been said, but it's worth reiterating that the 199 00:11:50,720 --> 00:11:55,120 Speaker 1: governors of Texas and Arizona have created this crisis and 200 00:11:55,240 --> 00:11:57,760 Speaker 1: the federal government has not stepped up to assist the 201 00:11:57,760 --> 00:12:02,120 Speaker 1: District of Columbia. So we, along with our regional partners, 202 00:12:02,280 --> 00:12:04,960 Speaker 1: will do what we've always done, will rise to the occasion. 203 00:12:05,200 --> 00:12:08,839 Speaker 1: We've learned from border towns like El Paso and Brownsville, 204 00:12:09,440 --> 00:12:14,240 Speaker 1: and in many ways the governors of Texas and Arizona 205 00:12:14,480 --> 00:12:19,640 Speaker 1: have turned us into a border town. Oh, I just 206 00:12:19,720 --> 00:12:24,000 Speaker 1: want to express my heartfelt condolences again for Washington, DC. 207 00:12:25,080 --> 00:12:29,920 Speaker 1: Are there a bunch of illegal immigrants flooding into your area, 208 00:12:30,280 --> 00:12:34,240 Speaker 1: gobbling up goods and services and jobs that belong to 209 00:12:34,280 --> 00:12:39,360 Speaker 1: American citizens and you're finding them to be a burden 210 00:12:39,880 --> 00:12:45,040 Speaker 1: on the critical facilities you rely on. Oh, that is 211 00:12:45,200 --> 00:12:48,720 Speaker 1: so sad. I'll tell you what my heart's just breaking for. 212 00:12:48,840 --> 00:12:53,800 Speaker 1: You has someone who's lived in California, Arizona and Texas. 213 00:12:54,000 --> 00:12:57,240 Speaker 1: I can't tell you how much my heartbreaks that Washington 214 00:12:57,360 --> 00:13:00,720 Speaker 1: DC has to take care of some illegal immigrants. Enjoy 215 00:13:00,760 --> 00:13:03,400 Speaker 1: it when your child has to go to bilingual class. 216 00:13:03,840 --> 00:13:06,000 Speaker 1: Enjoy it when you break your arm and have to 217 00:13:06,040 --> 00:13:08,640 Speaker 1: go to the emergency room and there's a three hour 218 00:13:08,800 --> 00:13:12,640 Speaker 1: rate because nineteen illegal immigrants are in there. For the sniffles. 219 00:13:12,880 --> 00:13:16,640 Speaker 1: I just feel awful for you, man. That is such 220 00:13:16,640 --> 00:13:20,600 Speaker 1: a shame. Back to the Donner Party. In case you missed, 221 00:13:20,640 --> 00:13:22,560 Speaker 1: we were talking about the Donner Party. Someone wrote in 222 00:13:22,600 --> 00:13:26,440 Speaker 1: about desperation and the human experience. Anyway they get up 223 00:13:26,480 --> 00:13:31,160 Speaker 1: there in the Sierra Nevadas, and you really begin to 224 00:13:31,160 --> 00:13:34,240 Speaker 1: see you were seeing some of it before this. They 225 00:13:34,240 --> 00:13:39,040 Speaker 1: were getting delayed and certain people were sick, or certain 226 00:13:39,080 --> 00:13:43,360 Speaker 1: people were causing problems. There was actually a negligent discharge 227 00:13:43,360 --> 00:13:45,920 Speaker 1: with a weapon that killed somebody. It was just I mean, 228 00:13:45,880 --> 00:13:48,960 Speaker 1: it's just one thing after another. You begin to see 229 00:13:49,000 --> 00:13:53,400 Speaker 1: the ugly part of humanity rear its ugly head. And 230 00:13:53,480 --> 00:13:56,400 Speaker 1: it reminds me. It reminds me so much of some 231 00:13:56,480 --> 00:13:59,679 Speaker 1: of the reading I've done about guys who've experienced gulags, 232 00:14:00,080 --> 00:14:04,760 Speaker 1: real Soviet style gulags and real starvation and tragedy, and 233 00:14:04,840 --> 00:14:07,720 Speaker 1: they said the same way I just said it. Look, 234 00:14:07,760 --> 00:14:10,480 Speaker 1: if if you're poor and you're fat, you're actually not 235 00:14:10,559 --> 00:14:17,240 Speaker 1: that poor. If everyone's good, if everyone remains relatively good, 236 00:14:18,120 --> 00:14:20,960 Speaker 1: then it's not bad enough yet I'm paraphrasing, but that's 237 00:14:21,040 --> 00:14:23,800 Speaker 1: essentially with the guys who who were in the gulag 238 00:14:23,920 --> 00:14:28,280 Speaker 1: say everyone turns bad because if you don't turn bad, 239 00:14:28,840 --> 00:14:32,800 Speaker 1: you die. And so you see the ugly parts of humanity. 240 00:14:32,840 --> 00:14:35,040 Speaker 1: And I bring this up because you can definitely see 241 00:14:35,200 --> 00:14:39,120 Speaker 1: ugliness coming out there now, Ugliness coming out there. Now. 242 00:14:41,760 --> 00:14:46,000 Speaker 1: They started screwing each other over right away they started. 243 00:14:46,720 --> 00:14:51,160 Speaker 1: One guy sold a dead oxen that starved to death. 244 00:14:51,240 --> 00:14:54,720 Speaker 1: He sold it to another family that was there, another 245 00:14:54,720 --> 00:14:58,640 Speaker 1: group that was there for the price of two live ones, 246 00:14:58,720 --> 00:15:02,000 Speaker 1: but he ripped them off money just because he could. 247 00:15:02,920 --> 00:15:06,000 Speaker 1: And then they begin to go hungry, and they of 248 00:15:06,000 --> 00:15:09,760 Speaker 1: course they're eating the oxen, and they're eating leather, they're 249 00:15:09,840 --> 00:15:15,000 Speaker 1: they're doing anything they can, and then they start eating 250 00:15:15,000 --> 00:15:21,360 Speaker 1: each other, and it's not long before they start killing 251 00:15:21,520 --> 00:15:26,120 Speaker 1: each other. Soon they actually send out a group. They 252 00:15:26,160 --> 00:15:28,520 Speaker 1: send out a group to Now they've been sending out groups. 253 00:15:28,520 --> 00:15:29,920 Speaker 1: I don't want to act like this was the one off, 254 00:15:29,920 --> 00:15:31,840 Speaker 1: but soon they send out a group. Big group of 255 00:15:31,920 --> 00:15:35,960 Speaker 1: dudes goes out, we're gonna find our way through the pass. 256 00:15:36,200 --> 00:15:39,040 Speaker 1: Not long before they identify a couple of them, they say, hey, 257 00:15:39,760 --> 00:15:43,960 Speaker 1: let's kill these guys and eat them. Somebody warned the guys. Again, 258 00:15:44,080 --> 00:15:46,960 Speaker 1: good human nature does rise. Someone warned the guys and said, hey, 259 00:15:46,960 --> 00:15:48,480 Speaker 1: they're gonna kill you, get out of here. So the 260 00:15:48,480 --> 00:15:51,840 Speaker 1: two guys took off and escaped. The group that was 261 00:15:51,880 --> 00:15:54,040 Speaker 1: going to kill them and eat them found them, and 262 00:15:54,200 --> 00:15:57,520 Speaker 1: a short time later they were starving. Pop Pop killed 263 00:15:57,560 --> 00:16:01,840 Speaker 1: them both anyway and ate them now you can sit 264 00:16:02,040 --> 00:16:04,880 Speaker 1: and look. It ended up being eighty I think it 265 00:16:04,920 --> 00:16:07,720 Speaker 1: was eighty seven took off. I think forty eight survived. 266 00:16:08,480 --> 00:16:11,000 Speaker 1: It's a fascinating story. There's all kinds of little things 267 00:16:11,000 --> 00:16:12,560 Speaker 1: that I've forgotten there. I could have made it take 268 00:16:12,600 --> 00:16:16,920 Speaker 1: the whole show. But just remember something when people get desperate. 269 00:16:16,920 --> 00:16:19,240 Speaker 1: That's why I've been warning you so much about guns, 270 00:16:19,240 --> 00:16:22,080 Speaker 1: about protecting yourself, about training with your weapons. Why I 271 00:16:22,080 --> 00:16:24,240 Speaker 1: talk to you about hero gun, It's why I talked 272 00:16:24,240 --> 00:16:26,560 Speaker 1: to you about putting your cell phone down, looking around 273 00:16:27,040 --> 00:16:31,400 Speaker 1: being as desperation increases, and we're going into a time 274 00:16:31,440 --> 00:16:32,960 Speaker 1: but I don't know how deep it will get, and 275 00:16:33,040 --> 00:16:34,600 Speaker 1: I don't know how long it'll last, but I do 276 00:16:34,680 --> 00:16:37,520 Speaker 1: know we're going into a time where desperation is increasing. 277 00:16:37,520 --> 00:16:43,600 Speaker 1: You see it everywhere. As desperation increases, Please understand, it 278 00:16:43,640 --> 00:16:51,240 Speaker 1: turns people into monsters. Desperation fear turns people into monsters. 279 00:16:51,680 --> 00:16:54,480 Speaker 1: You remember what they did during COVID, right, You remember 280 00:16:54,520 --> 00:16:58,520 Speaker 1: how many normal people you knew, maybe family members, friends, 281 00:16:59,200 --> 00:17:03,200 Speaker 1: turned into outright monsters because of fear, because the government 282 00:17:03,280 --> 00:17:06,440 Speaker 1: media fear machine fired everything up and got it rolling. 283 00:17:07,520 --> 00:17:14,040 Speaker 1: All right, all right? John Kerry flies private a lot. 284 00:17:14,480 --> 00:17:18,600 Speaker 1: This is not news. Washington freebeac Into their credit has 285 00:17:18,600 --> 00:17:21,639 Speaker 1: a story out today that he's flown more than one 286 00:17:21,720 --> 00:17:25,560 Speaker 1: hundred and eighty thousand miles. That's a lot, in case 287 00:17:25,600 --> 00:17:30,560 Speaker 1: you're wondering, it's also about about a thousand times more 288 00:17:30,600 --> 00:17:34,000 Speaker 1: carbon than you'll ever produce in the entirety of your life. 289 00:17:34,280 --> 00:17:37,080 Speaker 1: Oh go ahead, Chris, yeah, please on that issue pollution. 290 00:17:37,119 --> 00:17:39,080 Speaker 1: I understand that you came here with the private jet. 291 00:17:40,000 --> 00:17:43,480 Speaker 1: Is that an environmental way to travel? If you offset 292 00:17:43,840 --> 00:17:47,040 Speaker 1: your carbon it's the only choice for somebody like me 293 00:17:47,720 --> 00:17:53,440 Speaker 1: who is traveling the world to win this battle. So 294 00:17:54,200 --> 00:17:57,240 Speaker 1: what's the gotcha here? Are we going to do the 295 00:17:57,320 --> 00:18:00,399 Speaker 1: hypocrisy thing? Because that's all conservatism is has been for 296 00:18:00,480 --> 00:18:05,200 Speaker 1: most of my life, hypocrites. Look at these hypocrites, these hypocrites. 297 00:18:05,320 --> 00:18:08,479 Speaker 1: Or we'll do this, you know, the right loves to 298 00:18:08,480 --> 00:18:10,879 Speaker 1: do this as if it's somehow effective on the communists. 299 00:18:11,040 --> 00:18:13,880 Speaker 1: Can you imagine? Can you imagine if we did that? 300 00:18:14,280 --> 00:18:17,080 Speaker 1: Can you imagine? Can you imagine? Boy? I'll tell you what. 301 00:18:17,160 --> 00:18:20,639 Speaker 1: You could actually just write a book on what conservatism 302 00:18:20,640 --> 00:18:22,640 Speaker 1: has been for the last thirty years, and it could 303 00:18:22,680 --> 00:18:25,359 Speaker 1: be one page that just says, can you imagine if 304 00:18:25,640 --> 00:18:30,639 Speaker 1: as if that's somehow effective, Well it's not effective, doesn't matter. 305 00:18:31,280 --> 00:18:34,200 Speaker 1: But why isn't that effective? Why doesn't that work? We'll 306 00:18:34,240 --> 00:18:35,800 Speaker 1: talk about that and then I'll get to some more 307 00:18:35,880 --> 00:18:39,000 Speaker 1: emails and we have a lot of fun still to come. 308 00:18:39,080 --> 00:18:42,280 Speaker 1: I promise you on The Jesse Kelly Show, just remember this. 309 00:18:42,840 --> 00:18:46,080 Speaker 1: We're gonna talk about why it doesn't work. We're gonna 310 00:18:46,119 --> 00:18:49,280 Speaker 1: talk about what you're actually seeing when these people rub 311 00:18:49,359 --> 00:18:55,439 Speaker 1: these things in your face. But it's not hypocrisy. It 312 00:18:55,600 --> 00:19:00,480 Speaker 1: is not hypocrisy. We're dealing with something way worth, way 313 00:19:00,480 --> 00:19:03,240 Speaker 1: more nefarious than hypocrisy. If you think you're going to 314 00:19:03,320 --> 00:19:06,200 Speaker 1: point out their hypocrisy and change anything, you're dead wrong. 315 00:19:06,520 --> 00:19:19,160 Speaker 1: I'll explain why. Just say it is the Jesse Kelly's 316 00:19:19,160 --> 00:19:21,639 Speaker 1: Show Man. We're already halfway done with the show, Chris. 317 00:19:21,760 --> 00:19:23,840 Speaker 1: We're already halfway done. And then once we're done with 318 00:19:23,920 --> 00:19:27,439 Speaker 1: Thursday show, it's officially asked Doctor Jesse Friday. Baby, and 319 00:19:27,440 --> 00:19:30,320 Speaker 1: we all know, no, freedom is not free. Not free, Chris, 320 00:19:30,359 --> 00:19:32,680 Speaker 1: it's not free. You know what. We haven't heard from 321 00:19:32,680 --> 00:19:36,040 Speaker 1: Maria in far too long. You know what, Maria Salazar, 322 00:19:36,119 --> 00:19:39,320 Speaker 1: once again, please take us away. I just want you 323 00:19:39,359 --> 00:19:42,480 Speaker 1: to understand, these are the people who lead you and 324 00:19:42,600 --> 00:19:44,720 Speaker 1: write your laws. And do you support a no fly 325 00:19:44,840 --> 00:19:48,600 Speaker 1: zone in Ukraine? I support everything that has to do 326 00:19:48,760 --> 00:19:53,000 Speaker 1: with punishing Bladimir Putin and helping the Ukrainians. Wouldn't that 327 00:19:53,000 --> 00:19:55,719 Speaker 1: mean direct conventional warfare with Russia? I don't know what 328 00:19:55,760 --> 00:19:57,920 Speaker 1: it will mean, but you know freedom is not free, 329 00:19:57,960 --> 00:19:59,800 Speaker 1: so you don't know what a no fly zone will 330 00:19:59,800 --> 00:20:02,280 Speaker 1: mean if if you have to shoot down Russian planes. 331 00:20:02,320 --> 00:20:06,240 Speaker 1: I mean, of course, so conventional war with Russia. Listen, 332 00:20:06,680 --> 00:20:12,560 Speaker 1: thank you, listen, thank you? All right, John carry it's 333 00:20:12,560 --> 00:20:14,840 Speaker 1: a it's an article about how he flies private, and 334 00:20:14,840 --> 00:20:18,440 Speaker 1: he flies private, and what a hypocrite he's going. Hypocrite, hypocrite? 335 00:20:18,480 --> 00:20:21,040 Speaker 1: Can you imagine if we did that he's a hypocrite. 336 00:20:22,680 --> 00:20:28,240 Speaker 1: He's not a hypocrite. John Kerry and those like him, 337 00:20:29,000 --> 00:20:34,640 Speaker 1: they view themselves as kings and queens. There are many 338 00:20:34,680 --> 00:20:37,760 Speaker 1: people who've lived throughout history that are this way. Virtually 339 00:20:37,800 --> 00:20:41,800 Speaker 1: every genocidal maniac is this way. They viewed themselves as 340 00:20:41,920 --> 00:20:45,720 Speaker 1: being above I don't mean I don't mean slightly better, 341 00:20:45,880 --> 00:20:50,440 Speaker 1: slightly more talented. They viewed themselves as simply being above you. 342 00:20:50,520 --> 00:20:53,080 Speaker 1: It's very difficult for normal people to understand how these 343 00:20:53,080 --> 00:20:57,800 Speaker 1: people think you. You are not a citizen to them, 344 00:20:58,400 --> 00:21:02,360 Speaker 1: a fellow American. You're not anybody of any kind of 345 00:21:02,400 --> 00:21:07,879 Speaker 1: equal status. You are essentially a useless peasant. If you 346 00:21:07,880 --> 00:21:10,160 Speaker 1: could attach John Carry to a lot of detective test 347 00:21:10,640 --> 00:21:12,320 Speaker 1: he would come out. He would just simply be honest 348 00:21:12,359 --> 00:21:17,320 Speaker 1: about this. You. In his eyes, you're a useless peasant. 349 00:21:17,760 --> 00:21:21,680 Speaker 1: You have virtually no use whatsoever. In fact, every time 350 00:21:21,760 --> 00:21:24,359 Speaker 1: you try to get up at you and think and 351 00:21:24,480 --> 00:21:28,359 Speaker 1: talk about your freedom, what it does. It sparks a 352 00:21:28,480 --> 00:21:31,639 Speaker 1: genuine eye roll in people like this, and this applies 353 00:21:31,680 --> 00:21:35,480 Speaker 1: to all of them. This is the social media company CEOs, 354 00:21:35,640 --> 00:21:39,880 Speaker 1: John Carry, Bill Gates, Klaus Schwab, all the evil people 355 00:21:40,040 --> 00:21:42,840 Speaker 1: run the ball. They all think in this way, You're 356 00:21:42,920 --> 00:21:48,160 Speaker 1: not some individual created by God. You're a useless, frankly 357 00:21:48,480 --> 00:21:54,120 Speaker 1: burdensome peasant who talks about freedom way too much. The 358 00:21:54,160 --> 00:21:58,080 Speaker 1: fact that you won't just give John Carry all the 359 00:21:58,160 --> 00:22:02,879 Speaker 1: power he wants, he thinks that's disgraceful. He thinks any 360 00:22:02,960 --> 00:22:06,439 Speaker 1: limits on his power are absurd. He looks at the 361 00:22:06,680 --> 00:22:12,720 Speaker 1: free Western societies and he rolls his eyes. You you 362 00:22:12,760 --> 00:22:17,400 Speaker 1: know what, John Carrey wants you to do die if 363 00:22:17,440 --> 00:22:21,120 Speaker 1: that's if that's what he thinks will help the earth. Remember, 364 00:22:21,160 --> 00:22:23,840 Speaker 1: he's the king, he's the queen, He's the one who's 365 00:22:24,000 --> 00:22:27,480 Speaker 1: he's of a higher class. He knows what the world needs. 366 00:22:28,000 --> 00:22:33,320 Speaker 1: He thinks it's ridiculous these peasants are impeding his progress. 367 00:22:33,840 --> 00:22:37,200 Speaker 1: If John Carey feels like you need to die, then 368 00:22:37,320 --> 00:22:39,600 Speaker 1: you need to die. If he feels like you need 369 00:22:39,640 --> 00:22:41,679 Speaker 1: to live, then you need to live. If he feels 370 00:22:41,680 --> 00:22:43,880 Speaker 1: like you need to be forced to live in this 371 00:22:44,040 --> 00:22:46,439 Speaker 1: place or or work in this job, then that's what 372 00:22:46,520 --> 00:22:51,800 Speaker 1: he feels. But your feelings, your freedom, your individual nature, 373 00:22:52,119 --> 00:22:55,639 Speaker 1: these are things that cross your mind. They never even 374 00:22:55,720 --> 00:22:59,679 Speaker 1: cross his mind. John Harry is not a hypocrite, not 375 00:22:59,800 --> 00:23:01,639 Speaker 1: in his own mind. You could look him up to 376 00:23:01,680 --> 00:23:03,119 Speaker 1: a lot of detector desaid he would tell you that. 377 00:23:03,160 --> 00:23:06,480 Speaker 1: I mean, he was honest in that audio clip Christians played, Ah, 378 00:23:06,560 --> 00:23:09,120 Speaker 1: don't you think it's hypocritical to fly a private jet here? 379 00:23:09,359 --> 00:23:11,400 Speaker 1: And look, it was an honest moment. I give him 380 00:23:11,400 --> 00:23:14,600 Speaker 1: credit for it, wholl not for someone like me on 381 00:23:14,640 --> 00:23:16,879 Speaker 1: that issue pollution. I understand that you came here with 382 00:23:16,920 --> 00:23:20,359 Speaker 1: a private jet. Is that an environmental way? To travel 383 00:23:20,920 --> 00:23:24,679 Speaker 1: if you offset your carbon. It's the only choice for 384 00:23:24,760 --> 00:23:28,560 Speaker 1: somebody like me who is traveling the world to win 385 00:23:28,640 --> 00:23:35,040 Speaker 1: this battle. Somebody like me. But you your pickup truck. 386 00:23:36,040 --> 00:23:38,800 Speaker 1: Oh you're a truck driver. You do that for a living, 387 00:23:38,880 --> 00:23:44,240 Speaker 1: bringing critical goods to America. No, no, No, peasant John Kerry, 388 00:23:45,119 --> 00:23:48,320 Speaker 1: he can produce the carbon because again he's of a 389 00:23:48,480 --> 00:23:53,680 Speaker 1: higher class. They view themselves as kings and queens. And 390 00:23:53,760 --> 00:23:56,480 Speaker 1: so back to what we've done for so long on 391 00:23:56,560 --> 00:23:59,240 Speaker 1: the right, we make the mistake. It's a it's a 392 00:23:59,320 --> 00:24:02,720 Speaker 1: natural mistake. It's something humans do. We assign our values 393 00:24:02,760 --> 00:24:05,320 Speaker 1: to other people. We go back and we call these 394 00:24:05,359 --> 00:24:08,520 Speaker 1: people hypocrites because if you were accused of being a 395 00:24:08,600 --> 00:24:11,720 Speaker 1: hypocrite about something that would hurt you, you don't want 396 00:24:11,720 --> 00:24:13,640 Speaker 1: to be a hypocrite that would that would Oh wow, 397 00:24:13,920 --> 00:24:16,159 Speaker 1: dang am I okay, I need to work on that. 398 00:24:16,160 --> 00:24:18,159 Speaker 1: That's what you would if you were accused of something 399 00:24:18,200 --> 00:24:24,080 Speaker 1: like that. Look at it from John Carrey's perspective. Does 400 00:24:24,160 --> 00:24:29,480 Speaker 1: the peasant telling John Carey he's a hypocrite? Does it 401 00:24:29,600 --> 00:24:33,160 Speaker 1: have any effect on John carry at all? Remember how 402 00:24:33,160 --> 00:24:36,320 Speaker 1: he views the peasants. It doesn't affect him one bit. 403 00:24:36,800 --> 00:24:39,680 Speaker 1: He doesn't view that as being a hypocrisy at all. 404 00:24:40,200 --> 00:24:42,840 Speaker 1: He is of the higher class. You were of the 405 00:24:42,880 --> 00:24:47,480 Speaker 1: lower classes. And because we're Americans and we love you know, 406 00:24:47,600 --> 00:24:52,040 Speaker 1: equality and all these things, we don't understand how common 407 00:24:52,560 --> 00:24:59,120 Speaker 1: that way of thinking is throughout history, having classes in society. 408 00:24:59,160 --> 00:25:02,800 Speaker 1: It sucks, it's horrible, but it is most of the 409 00:25:02,880 --> 00:25:06,280 Speaker 1: history of the world. Remember that, that's just how it was. 410 00:25:06,440 --> 00:25:08,399 Speaker 1: I brought this up before because it's a great statin. 411 00:25:08,480 --> 00:25:09,960 Speaker 1: I think we should do the same when it comes 412 00:25:09,960 --> 00:25:14,920 Speaker 1: to this. The Romans. The Romans viewed actors and actresses 413 00:25:15,680 --> 00:25:20,359 Speaker 1: as being of the same lower class as ladies of 414 00:25:20,400 --> 00:25:23,680 Speaker 1: the night. They did. It was if you were one 415 00:25:23,680 --> 00:25:27,639 Speaker 1: of the upper classes, it was a scandal. It would be. 416 00:25:27,680 --> 00:25:30,160 Speaker 1: They had tabloids back then too. You would have been 417 00:25:30,200 --> 00:25:32,800 Speaker 1: on the front page of the tabloids if you were 418 00:25:32,880 --> 00:25:36,640 Speaker 1: seen talking to an actor or an actress. They just 419 00:25:36,720 --> 00:25:39,600 Speaker 1: viewed it as the lowest form of everything. Whereas we 420 00:25:39,640 --> 00:25:42,679 Speaker 1: revere them. They just thought, all these people are completely 421 00:25:42,800 --> 00:25:45,960 Speaker 1: useless to society, the worst of society, and it was 422 00:25:45,960 --> 00:25:50,359 Speaker 1: a scandal back then. Having classes in a society is 423 00:25:50,440 --> 00:25:54,000 Speaker 1: the norm for most of human history. Again, because we 424 00:25:54,080 --> 00:25:56,960 Speaker 1: don't have that perspective, it's just like tragedy because we 425 00:25:57,000 --> 00:26:01,080 Speaker 1: don't have enough of a perspective as Americans. We don't 426 00:26:01,119 --> 00:26:05,760 Speaker 1: realize that because you bounced throughout the classes here, you 427 00:26:05,760 --> 00:26:08,080 Speaker 1: can be rich, well, you can go from rich to 428 00:26:08,119 --> 00:26:10,679 Speaker 1: being poor and then right back to rich again and 429 00:26:10,880 --> 00:26:13,720 Speaker 1: right back to being poor. That's how it works in 430 00:26:13,760 --> 00:26:17,120 Speaker 1: this country. You're not held back. But that's not how 431 00:26:17,160 --> 00:26:20,640 Speaker 1: it's worked for most of human history and many human minds. 432 00:26:20,840 --> 00:26:25,440 Speaker 1: You could probably argue most human minds view society in 433 00:26:25,520 --> 00:26:30,560 Speaker 1: that way. I'll be honest with you, I do in 434 00:26:30,560 --> 00:26:36,639 Speaker 1: some ways. Do you know I don't. I don't support 435 00:26:36,680 --> 00:26:39,480 Speaker 1: the NFL anymore. I won't watch it on TV. I 436 00:26:39,520 --> 00:26:42,360 Speaker 1: won't do any of that. But you also know, for 437 00:26:42,440 --> 00:26:45,919 Speaker 1: so long I was obsessed with NFL football and my team. 438 00:26:46,000 --> 00:26:48,199 Speaker 1: I was a Giants fan and my fantasy team. I 439 00:26:48,280 --> 00:26:52,480 Speaker 1: just love NFL football. And you know I stopped going 440 00:26:52,520 --> 00:26:56,120 Speaker 1: to games two reasons. One, the wife and I had 441 00:26:56,160 --> 00:26:58,600 Speaker 1: saved up for a few years to go to Hawaii, 442 00:26:59,600 --> 00:27:01,760 Speaker 1: and the Giants made the Super Bowl, and we spent 443 00:27:01,840 --> 00:27:03,879 Speaker 1: all of our Hawaii money on Super Bowl tickets, and 444 00:27:03,960 --> 00:27:05,439 Speaker 1: so we got to go experience what it was like 445 00:27:05,440 --> 00:27:07,600 Speaker 1: for a Super Bowl game. It was like two thousand 446 00:27:07,680 --> 00:27:10,520 Speaker 1: dollars a ticket or something ridiculous, Right, We'll spend everything 447 00:27:10,560 --> 00:27:13,439 Speaker 1: we had, and it was wonderful. Even the other fans 448 00:27:13,480 --> 00:27:16,199 Speaker 1: were wonderful. It was wonderful. But I've been to other 449 00:27:16,240 --> 00:27:19,440 Speaker 1: football games where I just got, you know, normal nosebleeds, 450 00:27:19,760 --> 00:27:24,320 Speaker 1: nosebleed tickets all I could afford. It was wretched. Back 451 00:27:24,359 --> 00:27:27,320 Speaker 1: when I love the NFL was wretched. There's a new 452 00:27:27,359 --> 00:27:31,280 Speaker 1: fight every fifteen seconds. Drone man fifty sixty years old 453 00:27:31,280 --> 00:27:35,200 Speaker 1: getting so drunk in public, they're vomiting on themselves, passing 454 00:27:35,240 --> 00:27:38,919 Speaker 1: out endless amounts of just cursing in front of kids. 455 00:27:39,480 --> 00:27:43,080 Speaker 1: It was horrible. I'm not one of these guys who 456 00:27:43,080 --> 00:27:45,160 Speaker 1: doesn't believe in any of this class stuff at all. 457 00:27:46,040 --> 00:27:48,040 Speaker 1: I'll finished that thought in just a moment. I kind 458 00:27:48,040 --> 00:27:49,760 Speaker 1: of ran out of time. They all finished my Well, 459 00:27:49,800 --> 00:27:53,240 Speaker 1: I'm a class Is that a word, Chris, I'm a classist. 460 00:27:53,960 --> 00:27:56,159 Speaker 1: I'm a classist. I'll finish that word in a second. 461 00:27:56,320 --> 00:27:57,920 Speaker 1: Before I get to that. I brought it up a 462 00:27:57,920 --> 00:28:00,840 Speaker 1: little earlier. I probably should have expanded on it about 463 00:28:00,880 --> 00:28:05,160 Speaker 1: the level of desperation and how desperate people can turn 464 00:28:05,160 --> 00:28:08,000 Speaker 1: into monsters will turn into monsters. Scared people will turn 465 00:28:08,000 --> 00:28:12,520 Speaker 1: into monsters. As we continue to descend this way in society, 466 00:28:13,720 --> 00:28:17,000 Speaker 1: it is more and more critical that you have something 467 00:28:17,160 --> 00:28:20,440 Speaker 1: on your person at all times that will allow you 468 00:28:20,560 --> 00:28:24,600 Speaker 1: to protect yourself. You saw that story about that Memphis 469 00:28:24,680 --> 00:28:28,800 Speaker 1: gunman who live streamed a shooting rampage has happened last night, 470 00:28:28,920 --> 00:28:30,720 Speaker 1: live streamed it. You could have watched it online. He 471 00:28:30,800 --> 00:28:35,879 Speaker 1: killed four people. They were random people. Do you have 472 00:28:35,920 --> 00:28:39,840 Speaker 1: a Hero gun yet? Does that daughter you sent away 473 00:28:39,880 --> 00:28:44,280 Speaker 1: to college have a Hero gun? Your son, your wife, 474 00:28:44,320 --> 00:28:48,320 Speaker 1: your your husband, your mother. Anyone can use it. It's 475 00:28:48,320 --> 00:28:50,720 Speaker 1: a non lethal gun, has a laser sight. You point 476 00:28:50,720 --> 00:28:54,280 Speaker 1: and squeeze. It shoots these pepperballs. It hits, It hurts, 477 00:28:54,480 --> 00:28:57,960 Speaker 1: and after that the real pain begins. Go to Hero. 478 00:28:58,240 --> 00:29:02,080 Speaker 1: Twenty twenty dot Com used the code Jesse that gets 479 00:29:02,120 --> 00:29:05,320 Speaker 1: you a special discount. He wrote, twenty twenty dot com 480 00:29:05,360 --> 00:29:11,600 Speaker 1: code Jesse. State restrictions may apply. You were listening to 481 00:29:11,640 --> 00:29:22,080 Speaker 1: the Jesse Kelly Show. You're welcome. It is the Jesse 482 00:29:22,240 --> 00:29:25,920 Speaker 1: Kelly Show, Breaking news tonight. I'm a classist. Maybe maybe 483 00:29:25,960 --> 00:29:28,480 Speaker 1: I know. I'm I'm explaining. I was explaining John Kerry 484 00:29:28,600 --> 00:29:31,440 Speaker 1: and why he flies private and tells you not to 485 00:29:31,520 --> 00:29:33,840 Speaker 1: drive a car. He views himself as being above you. 486 00:29:34,040 --> 00:29:35,920 Speaker 1: It's just how he views himself. And I was telling 487 00:29:35,960 --> 00:29:38,680 Speaker 1: the story about back when I used to love the NFL, 488 00:29:39,360 --> 00:29:41,560 Speaker 1: and I told you we'd spent our vacation fund one 489 00:29:41,560 --> 00:29:42,920 Speaker 1: time to go to the Super Bowl and it was 490 00:29:43,000 --> 00:29:45,880 Speaker 1: wonderful because the crowd was wonderful. I think it was 491 00:29:45,920 --> 00:29:48,840 Speaker 1: just wonderful people, even from the opposing team. It was 492 00:29:49,000 --> 00:29:51,320 Speaker 1: the Giants when they played the Patriots. Even then, it 493 00:29:51,400 --> 00:29:54,120 Speaker 1: was cordial with everybody. And then I've been to several 494 00:29:54,120 --> 00:29:56,239 Speaker 1: games where all I mean nose bleed seats, that's all 495 00:29:56,240 --> 00:29:59,640 Speaker 1: I could afford, and it was it was like being 496 00:29:59,680 --> 00:30:04,320 Speaker 1: in It was just wretched up there. I learned early on, 497 00:30:05,040 --> 00:30:08,240 Speaker 1: even when I couldn't afford anything, I learned you got 498 00:30:08,360 --> 00:30:11,520 Speaker 1: to price out the riff raff. Sometimes, if you take 499 00:30:11,560 --> 00:30:14,920 Speaker 1: a ninety nine dollars Spirit Airlines flight that leaves from 500 00:30:15,000 --> 00:30:19,360 Speaker 1: Philadelphia at midnight, you better be ready to fight. The 501 00:30:19,360 --> 00:30:21,440 Speaker 1: truth is, you gotta price out the riff raft So 502 00:30:21,480 --> 00:30:24,080 Speaker 1: I guess in some way we're all classist. I guess. 503 00:30:24,320 --> 00:30:28,120 Speaker 1: But did you hear gavinusm in California California and many 504 00:30:28,120 --> 00:30:32,000 Speaker 1: other Western states are experiencing simply unprecedented temperatures. In fact, 505 00:30:32,040 --> 00:30:34,200 Speaker 1: this heat wave is on track to be both the 506 00:30:34,240 --> 00:30:37,880 Speaker 1: hottest and the longest on record for this state in 507 00:30:37,920 --> 00:30:40,640 Speaker 1: many parts of the West for the month of September. 508 00:30:40,920 --> 00:30:44,120 Speaker 1: Everyone has to do their part to help step up 509 00:30:44,200 --> 00:30:47,600 Speaker 1: for just a few more days. Individuals, the state, industry's 510 00:30:47,640 --> 00:30:50,600 Speaker 1: business all doing their part to help produce strain on 511 00:30:50,680 --> 00:30:53,920 Speaker 1: the grid. Please turn your thermostat up to seventy eight 512 00:30:53,920 --> 00:30:57,120 Speaker 1: degrees or higher and avoid to the extent possible using 513 00:30:57,200 --> 00:31:01,840 Speaker 1: any really large appliances. He sits there in a jacket 514 00:31:01,880 --> 00:31:04,200 Speaker 1: telling you that, and I'm telling you that's coming soon. 515 00:31:04,880 --> 00:31:07,680 Speaker 1: It's coming soon for all of us. Don't think your 516 00:31:07,680 --> 00:31:11,000 Speaker 1: red area is unique. It is coming soon. Alright, alright, alright, alright, 517 00:31:11,040 --> 00:31:14,760 Speaker 1: back to the emails. Remember tomorrow is an ask doctor 518 00:31:14,840 --> 00:31:19,040 Speaker 1: Jesse Friday. Get your questions emailed in now to Jesse 519 00:31:19,360 --> 00:31:23,480 Speaker 1: at Jesse Kelly Show dot com. Jesse at Jesse Kelly 520 00:31:23,480 --> 00:31:27,320 Speaker 1: Show dot com. Doctor Oracle, I've been wondering your opinion 521 00:31:27,360 --> 00:31:30,960 Speaker 1: on Jordan Peterson. I consider the field of psychology to 522 00:31:30,960 --> 00:31:34,160 Speaker 1: be as corrupt as any institution. But Peterson seems to 523 00:31:34,200 --> 00:31:37,239 Speaker 1: have escaped that. It seems he's encouraging young men in 524 00:31:37,280 --> 00:31:39,800 Speaker 1: particular to grow up and become better human beings in 525 00:31:39,840 --> 00:31:43,000 Speaker 1: their community. Just wondering your take. I always find these 526 00:31:43,000 --> 00:31:47,760 Speaker 1: things fascinating because people other people who are well known 527 00:31:47,880 --> 00:31:50,880 Speaker 1: getting more well known. On a very famous celebrities like me, 528 00:31:51,000 --> 00:31:54,240 Speaker 1: Chris in the in the conservative movement. People assume you 529 00:31:54,320 --> 00:31:57,560 Speaker 1: all know each other. I actually don't know Jordan Peterson 530 00:31:57,640 --> 00:32:00,600 Speaker 1: at all. I've never even met the man. I was 531 00:32:00,640 --> 00:32:04,000 Speaker 1: at a private event where he spoke one time. I 532 00:32:04,120 --> 00:32:07,800 Speaker 1: found him. I found him to be incredibly fascinating. I 533 00:32:07,840 --> 00:32:09,880 Speaker 1: think that he's saying a lot of things, Like a 534 00:32:09,880 --> 00:32:11,600 Speaker 1: lot of things he said at the event, and this 535 00:32:11,680 --> 00:32:14,320 Speaker 1: is where we've gone as a society. They're not things 536 00:32:14,360 --> 00:32:17,960 Speaker 1: that would have been seen as even remotely controversial like 537 00:32:18,040 --> 00:32:21,920 Speaker 1: ten years ago. He's just saying basic things. But now 538 00:32:23,120 --> 00:32:27,320 Speaker 1: any amount of truth as seen as radical, it's seen 539 00:32:27,680 --> 00:32:30,720 Speaker 1: as completely crazy. I liked a lot of what he 540 00:32:30,800 --> 00:32:32,680 Speaker 1: said there. I haven't read any of his books or 541 00:32:32,680 --> 00:32:34,760 Speaker 1: anything like that. I know some people like him a lot. 542 00:32:34,840 --> 00:32:38,760 Speaker 1: I don't know. I would tell you if I didn't 543 00:32:38,760 --> 00:32:40,800 Speaker 1: like him or I love the guy. I just don't 544 00:32:40,800 --> 00:32:43,400 Speaker 1: know him well enough to say anything. Dear super tall 545 00:32:43,440 --> 00:32:48,480 Speaker 1: showgun SENSI, By the way, just to before I do 546 00:32:48,760 --> 00:32:51,400 Speaker 1: this email, I want to remind you I talked last night. 547 00:32:51,440 --> 00:32:53,920 Speaker 1: In case you missed last night's show, we had a lady, 548 00:32:53,960 --> 00:32:56,840 Speaker 1: she was a jogger getting scared about all the criminal 549 00:32:56,880 --> 00:33:00,719 Speaker 1: filth out there, wrote in asking about what martial arts 550 00:33:00,800 --> 00:33:04,360 Speaker 1: she should practice and things like that, and we got 551 00:33:04,360 --> 00:33:06,360 Speaker 1: a bunch of responses. All of them were positive today 552 00:33:06,400 --> 00:33:08,240 Speaker 1: about the things I had to say, to which I 553 00:33:08,320 --> 00:33:11,680 Speaker 1: told them, Yeah, get used to carrying a weapon. Carry 554 00:33:11,760 --> 00:33:14,960 Speaker 1: he wrote, Gun, Carrie, he wrote, arrow, carry a lethal 555 00:33:15,040 --> 00:33:17,880 Speaker 1: gun if you want carry something with you that will 556 00:33:17,920 --> 00:33:21,480 Speaker 1: stop somebody. Because look, even if you train lots of training, 557 00:33:21,480 --> 00:33:23,880 Speaker 1: and I'm not discounting training, training is important. It could 558 00:33:23,880 --> 00:33:26,200 Speaker 1: save your life even if you train. If you're one 559 00:33:26,240 --> 00:33:28,480 Speaker 1: hundred and ten pound woman in some two hundred and 560 00:33:28,480 --> 00:33:31,520 Speaker 1: twenty pound violent monster gets his hands on you, and 561 00:33:31,600 --> 00:33:34,880 Speaker 1: he's known nothing but violence his whole life, he's going 562 00:33:34,920 --> 00:33:37,160 Speaker 1: to do whatever he wants to you. Hey, way, this 563 00:33:37,200 --> 00:33:40,040 Speaker 1: guy writes in I am in total agreement with you 564 00:33:40,080 --> 00:33:42,680 Speaker 1: on women in martial arts. I'm a forty five year 565 00:33:42,680 --> 00:33:46,360 Speaker 1: old professional martial artist and hold multiple black belts and 566 00:33:46,400 --> 00:33:48,560 Speaker 1: have trained all over the world with some of the greatest. 567 00:33:48,920 --> 00:33:53,320 Speaker 1: I've been teaching for over forty years. Wait a minute, 568 00:33:54,120 --> 00:33:58,240 Speaker 1: you were teaching people when you were five. Anyway, I 569 00:33:58,280 --> 00:34:01,760 Speaker 1: can only recommend one thing for women's self defense. It's 570 00:34:01,800 --> 00:34:05,440 Speaker 1: called model mugging. It's the best thing available for women 571 00:34:05,440 --> 00:34:07,960 Speaker 1: and men who are not going to train for years 572 00:34:08,239 --> 00:34:13,480 Speaker 1: with unfortunately unrealistic goals. Students are exposed to serious violence, 573 00:34:13,680 --> 00:34:17,440 Speaker 1: mental stress in true full contact. I truly hope this 574 00:34:17,520 --> 00:34:22,560 Speaker 1: recommendation saves someone, as it actually has many times. Please investigate. 575 00:34:22,640 --> 00:34:24,440 Speaker 1: Thank you, and I love your show. You make me 576 00:34:24,480 --> 00:34:27,040 Speaker 1: feel Unlane says, I can say his name. His name 577 00:34:27,120 --> 00:34:31,960 Speaker 1: is Jonathan model mugging. I've never heard of this in 578 00:34:32,040 --> 00:34:34,239 Speaker 1: my life, and now I'm fascinating. Look, I need to 579 00:34:34,280 --> 00:34:38,040 Speaker 1: explain something too. When I say, somebody who's only known 580 00:34:38,200 --> 00:34:41,680 Speaker 1: violence and you don't, because that's not how you've lived 581 00:34:41,719 --> 00:34:45,640 Speaker 1: your life. Somebody like this does, Jonathan, somebody who's trained 582 00:34:45,680 --> 00:34:48,960 Speaker 1: that much. You've been in enough sparring. Undoubtedly you've been 583 00:34:48,960 --> 00:34:54,040 Speaker 1: in enough tournaments you understand how violent it gets so quickly. 584 00:34:54,120 --> 00:34:56,120 Speaker 1: I remember in the Marines we would do this thing 585 00:34:56,160 --> 00:34:57,560 Speaker 1: all the time. I don't know if they still do 586 00:34:57,600 --> 00:34:59,640 Speaker 1: it now. We would do this thing called bull in 587 00:34:59,680 --> 00:35:02,800 Speaker 1: the ring, and it's kind of a cool thing where 588 00:35:02,920 --> 00:35:05,239 Speaker 1: you would they form a circle. Everyone would form a 589 00:35:05,280 --> 00:35:09,000 Speaker 1: circle around this gigantic ring and you would sit down 590 00:35:09,000 --> 00:35:11,000 Speaker 1: on your butt with your legs straight out in front 591 00:35:11,000 --> 00:35:13,319 Speaker 1: of you, and the guy you were going against would 592 00:35:13,360 --> 00:35:15,120 Speaker 1: sit down on his butt with his legs straight out 593 00:35:15,160 --> 00:35:16,800 Speaker 1: in front of him, and you were back to back. 594 00:35:17,520 --> 00:35:20,359 Speaker 1: You were not allowed to stand up, and you were 595 00:35:20,360 --> 00:35:23,400 Speaker 1: not allowed to punch or elbow, so you weren't allowed 596 00:35:23,400 --> 00:35:27,080 Speaker 1: to strike. But when they'd say go, you turn around 597 00:35:27,440 --> 00:35:29,920 Speaker 1: and you fight until someone submits. That's what you do. 598 00:35:29,960 --> 00:35:32,640 Speaker 1: You fight until somebody submits. And this what are the 599 00:35:32,640 --> 00:35:36,400 Speaker 1: cool parts about it is you could challenge anybody. You 600 00:35:36,440 --> 00:35:38,319 Speaker 1: have to be respectful of rank all the time. But 601 00:35:38,520 --> 00:35:41,160 Speaker 1: if you're platoons age, you made you mad, your lieutenant 602 00:35:41,239 --> 00:35:43,640 Speaker 1: made you mad. Hey, sir, let's get bull in the ring. 603 00:35:43,719 --> 00:35:46,080 Speaker 1: Let's do it, and that you have an obligation to 604 00:35:46,120 --> 00:35:48,160 Speaker 1: do it, so you could challenge anyone anytime. Now I 605 00:35:48,239 --> 00:35:51,080 Speaker 1: say they say no hitting. You got away with everything 606 00:35:51,120 --> 00:35:55,400 Speaker 1: illegal you possibly could. I have been made to bleed 607 00:35:55,520 --> 00:35:57,799 Speaker 1: doing bull of the ring. I've made others bleed doing 608 00:35:57,880 --> 00:36:00,239 Speaker 1: bull of the ring. If no one can see your 609 00:36:00,280 --> 00:36:02,479 Speaker 1: noses right there, and I'm trying to win, I'm gonna 610 00:36:02,520 --> 00:36:06,239 Speaker 1: do what i have to do to win. But you 611 00:36:06,239 --> 00:36:08,239 Speaker 1: could tell there were guys who'd never been in a 612 00:36:08,280 --> 00:36:10,239 Speaker 1: scrap before. And that's fine. I'm not encouraging you to 613 00:36:10,239 --> 00:36:11,400 Speaker 1: go out and get in a bunch of fights, but 614 00:36:11,400 --> 00:36:14,000 Speaker 1: you can tell they were and they don't get wrong. 615 00:36:14,040 --> 00:36:17,799 Speaker 1: You hardened up pretty quickly. But you're shocked, especially if 616 00:36:17,840 --> 00:36:19,880 Speaker 1: all you know is movies and TV and things like. 617 00:36:19,920 --> 00:36:23,480 Speaker 1: You're shocked at the violence of it, at the speed 618 00:36:23,560 --> 00:36:26,200 Speaker 1: and the violence of it. Sometimes it's just the speed 619 00:36:26,239 --> 00:36:31,640 Speaker 1: that blows you away. It's striking. So I said what 620 00:36:31,719 --> 00:36:34,880 Speaker 1: I said because I want people, especially women, to be 621 00:36:35,000 --> 00:36:39,759 Speaker 1: safe in an environment where they are increasingly unsafe. Yes, 622 00:36:39,840 --> 00:36:41,680 Speaker 1: I want you to do some training. Maybe that look 623 00:36:41,719 --> 00:36:43,920 Speaker 1: this guy, this guy says it sounds like he's got experience. 624 00:36:44,000 --> 00:36:46,879 Speaker 1: Maybe this model mugging is the key. Maybe that's it. 625 00:36:47,320 --> 00:36:51,120 Speaker 1: But don't even think that is enough. Carry something on 626 00:36:51,160 --> 00:36:55,319 Speaker 1: you to stop a bad guy. Carry something on you 627 00:36:55,640 --> 00:36:59,040 Speaker 1: that will stop a bad guy. All right, it's critical. 628 00:37:00,160 --> 00:37:04,400 Speaker 1: Now someone wants to know about Mitch McConnell. Well, actually, 629 00:37:04,800 --> 00:37:06,520 Speaker 1: a bunch of people have asked me because there's an 630 00:37:06,600 --> 00:37:11,279 Speaker 1: article out today about Mitch McConnell and Mitch McConnell's silence 631 00:37:11,360 --> 00:37:14,600 Speaker 1: after Joe Biden's speech. We're gonna have a frank talk 632 00:37:14,640 --> 00:37:15,960 Speaker 1: about this next