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Speaker 1: Warning, today's episode contains spoilers for House of the Dragon

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Speaker 1: episode five, so watch that done first, then come back

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Speaker 1: listen to us. Hello, my name is Jason Concepcion and

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Speaker 1: I'm rosday Night, and welcome back to x ray Vision,

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Speaker 1: the podcast when we dive deep to your favorite shows, movies,

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Speaker 1: comics and pop culture coming from i RN Podcast. Well,

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Speaker 1: we're bringing you two huge episodes every Tuesday and Thursday.

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Speaker 2: In today's episode, in the Airlock, we're gonna be dealing

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Speaker 2: with the fallout of that unbelievable episode, the fifth highest episode,

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Speaker 2: highest rated episode's UNI US ever Housed the Dragon episode four,

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Speaker 2: and we're gonna be dealing with the fallout in House

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Speaker 2: the Dragon episode five, which I might say I maybe

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Speaker 2: enjoyed a little bit more. And obviously we'll be updating

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Speaker 2: our scorecard with who we think is winning the war

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Speaker 2: from the Green Faction or the Black Faction.

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Speaker 1: Well, let's get into it. On the previously on Okay,

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Speaker 1: How's the Dragon? Episode five? We open Oh Baby at

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Speaker 1: drift Mark, where no surprise but quite heartbreaking to see

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Speaker 1: Corliss is shattered by the news that his life partner,

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Speaker 1: his wife, the Queen that Ever, was Raynie and her

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Speaker 1: dragon Male's have been slain at the Battle of.

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Speaker 2: Rook's rest rip to like the only good relationship in

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Speaker 2: house the dragon has Truly, this was so non toxic,

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Speaker 2: so healthy, so equal, even though we had, you know,

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Speaker 2: a little secret bastard son that happens in medieval times generally,

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Speaker 2: and also that's real Raynie was so chilling nice about

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Speaker 2: so yeah, heartbreaking to see it.

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Speaker 3: Sorry.

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Speaker 1: We go to King's landing, where famine is taking hold.

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Speaker 1: People are people are suffering the deprivations of war and

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Speaker 1: of near starvation conditions as Kristen Cole's army, victorious from

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Speaker 1: Express Victorious question Work, drags Mayleice's head through the streets,

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Speaker 1: and Christen Cole is thinking, Wow, the people are gonna

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Speaker 1: love this.

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Speaker 4: He's like, look at the trait of dragon killed by

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Speaker 4: your king.

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Speaker 1: Return where the victorious are we returning home? And then instead,

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Speaker 1: the people are not at all stop, They're into it.

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Speaker 1: They don't love to see this. And while everybody's looking

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Speaker 1: a dragon being drug through the streets very quietly, oh baby,

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Speaker 1: the King's incapacitated, badly mauled figure is snuuck back into

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Speaker 1: the Red Keep in this little box.

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Speaker 2: Which, by the way, very clever play, because if you're

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Speaker 2: not a book reader, this definitely looked.

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Speaker 3: Like they were sneaking his dead body in, you know

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Speaker 3: I loved the moment where somebody sees the.

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Speaker 2: Dragon's head go past and they say I thought the

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Speaker 2: of like, oh, Christian, they're just mate. Kristen really fucked

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Speaker 2: this one up, like they really seen as like a

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Speaker 1: Well there, and I think the mystique the power of

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Speaker 1: Up on the roof of the Red Keep, Allisent and

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Speaker 1: Aimond are watching this parade towards the castle. The Queen

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Speaker 1: is clearly disturbed by the sites. Meanwhile, Amon is just

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Speaker 2: Like I feel like, could Alison not just like she

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Speaker 2: is happening to you. You should have kept a tighter

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Speaker 1: Alison confronts Cole and is like, what the fuck happened

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Speaker 1: to Eggon? What the fuck happened to the king? Did? Uh?

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Speaker 1: Did Amond have anything to do with that? And with

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Speaker 2: Interesting that his loyalty seems to have shifted to Aimund

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Speaker 1: I would imagine if you're Coal, you're thinking I saw

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Speaker 1: This is what Renie was so good at. Not here anymore.

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Speaker 1: But it's not working, and the various ideas are getting

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Speaker 1: to strike. We strike now. There's like Jason said that

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Speaker 1: I'm tired of being wrapped in bubble wrap. I'm gonna go.

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Speaker 1: It's got to be me, my turn to get on

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Speaker 3: You're on the a. We you you.

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Speaker 1: We can't do that because if you we lose you,

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Speaker 1: it's all fucking over. Absolutely not. Jace, meanwhile, is just

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Speaker 1: So he storms off and he's like, you know what,

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Speaker 1: So tired of this, Bayla gets to go out and

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Speaker 1: do things. She's scouting. She gets a mission. She saw

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Speaker 1: Kristin Cole and his army on the on the run.

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Speaker 1: She edified him and brought that intelligence back. Meanwhile, I'm

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Speaker 1: just here wearing beautiful capes and not to do anything.

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Speaker 1: Jase then figures out, wait a second, let's look at

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Speaker 1: this map, right, m hm, could be a good idea. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: we've got the Northman, by the way. That was my job.

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Speaker 1: I went out and I got the Northman on side.

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Speaker 1: They're coming down there, walking down, taking a really long

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Speaker 1: then the Northmen aren't gonna have to walk all the

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Speaker 1: good idea. Yeah, I'm not going to say anything to

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Speaker 1: your mom while you're gone. Why don't you go see

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Speaker 1: if you can get the phrase to agree?

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Speaker 3: Why was this an idea a child had?

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Speaker 1: Like?

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Speaker 2: No, I don't have this idea. It's actually like a

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Speaker 2: very fucking good idea. Strategically.

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Speaker 1: I think it's a great point, and it speaks to

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Speaker 1: the very disorganized fashion that the Black Council comports itself.

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Speaker 2: You've always been saying there's a lack of management, and

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Speaker 2: you are correct.

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Speaker 3: You can really see it here.

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Speaker 1: We go to the river lands where Damon is attempting

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Speaker 1: to bring the Brackens to heal now and this is

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Speaker 1: going nowhere. He's like, okay, well, here's what's up, Lord Bracken.

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Speaker 1: I will give you a choice. I either you bend

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Speaker 1: I burn your house by fire. And Lord Bracken is like, cold, Okay, yeah, great,

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Speaker 1: Uh sure do it then, And so Damon is like, fuck,

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Speaker 1: these guys are good. That's yeah, I love this ship.

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Speaker 3: He's like this.

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Speaker 2: He's like, these men just turned them back on a

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Speaker 2: this is the man I need.

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Speaker 1: I need these guys. I need them, I need them.

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Speaker 1: And so Willem is like, uh, okay, but can I

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Speaker 1: here's I got an idea. Go kill some of them,

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Speaker 1: Go commit war crimes.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, go kill some children, pillage some women, you know.

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Speaker 1: How, the whole thing, and and that will you know,

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Speaker 1: while the Brackens are here, you go to their house

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Speaker 1: him to work for us. And also it keeps my

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Speaker 4: Babe, which way nobody knows about. Of course, of course

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Speaker 4: But you do it, and it, you know, you.

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Speaker 3: Take the place for you Two's dug what going on?

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Speaker 1: And Blackwood is like, I love it. I love to

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Speaker 1: And we'll be right back after a second, and we're

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Speaker 1: back in the veil. We meet a lady Jane Aaron,

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Speaker 1: the lady of the Iri. She drives a hard bargain,

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Speaker 1: a very very hard bargain. She's complaining to Raina that listen,

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Speaker 3: She's like, is that protection? What could happen?

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Speaker 1: To be fair to Lady Jane, I feel her. I

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Speaker 1: feel her disappointment. I feel her frustration. You gotta read

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Speaker 2: the dragons are still seen as immortals. Having two dragons

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Speaker 2: somebody could just chop this dragon's head off, and you know.

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Speaker 1: So this is troubling for Reno, who now all of

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Speaker 1: literally like have the kids killed in that bed?

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Speaker 3: Like you're at, how, well what next?

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Speaker 1: It's I think telling that that Massaria now is a

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Speaker 3: You did not think this one through. I love you, Alice.

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Speaker 2: He's like, remember when you've betrayed your friend and took

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Speaker 2: She's just lost, like she's she realizes like she's done,

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Speaker 1: We've and I think we've all been there. It's like

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Speaker 1: And here is Alison telling Kristin Cole, you motherfucker, you

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Speaker 1: I saw somebody on fire. I saw somebody burned. Can

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Speaker 3: For maybe I can just have a little cry on.

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Speaker 1: Don't you aren't you happy that I protect you?

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Speaker 1: Turns on a heel, it's over. He does say one

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Speaker 1: Sure it's great, let me tell you. Jace almost twists

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Speaker 1: But the fact that I lost my wife. And then

433
00:24:20,680 --> 00:24:22,600
Speaker 1: Bayla makes some really great points.

434
00:24:22,640 --> 00:24:24,560
Speaker 3: She says, she does a really good job.

435
00:24:25,040 --> 00:24:26,520
Speaker 1: Let's be a great job.

436
00:24:26,680 --> 00:24:28,800
Speaker 2: I understand he's morning, but he is being like a

437
00:24:28,840 --> 00:24:30,400
Speaker 2: little bit of a bit like a baby.

438
00:24:30,640 --> 00:24:31,680
Speaker 1: He's a baby.

439
00:24:31,960 --> 00:24:32,720
Speaker 3: He's being a baby.

440
00:24:32,760 --> 00:24:35,359
Speaker 2: There's bigger things going on here, and you're like teenage

441
00:24:35,560 --> 00:24:38,280
Speaker 2: Grandor is being more smart and tactical.

442
00:24:38,440 --> 00:24:43,280
Speaker 1: He's like, listen, Grandma was a targetarian princess and they

443
00:24:43,320 --> 00:24:47,000
Speaker 1: want to go out fire and blood. You are salt

444
00:24:47,040 --> 00:24:49,920
Speaker 1: and sea. Okay, you're gonna want to go down at

445
00:24:49,920 --> 00:24:52,720
Speaker 1: the wheel of your ship. Right. She went out the

446
00:24:52,760 --> 00:24:56,600
Speaker 1: way she wanted to go out, Okay, and that's it.

447
00:24:56,880 --> 00:25:00,720
Speaker 1: So your queen needs you and this is what Rainie

448
00:25:00,920 --> 00:25:03,960
Speaker 1: died for. So you're just gonna let it all go sideways?

449
00:25:04,000 --> 00:25:07,960
Speaker 1: Are you gonna step up? And Corlis is affected by this,

450
00:25:08,040 --> 00:25:10,639
Speaker 1: and he's seeing his granddaughter in new way. He's like,

451
00:25:10,680 --> 00:25:10,920
Speaker 1: you know.

452
00:25:10,880 --> 00:25:13,360
Speaker 3: What you got to He's got you got a juice.

453
00:25:13,720 --> 00:25:16,200
Speaker 1: You got the juice. How about I make you air

454
00:25:16,240 --> 00:25:18,320
Speaker 1: to Driftmark not the kid Jeoffrey.

455
00:25:17,920 --> 00:25:21,120
Speaker 3: Who's yeah, like well I have I just little baby.

456
00:25:21,000 --> 00:25:25,119
Speaker 1: Little baby, little wet neck baby. And Bayla you know

457
00:25:25,160 --> 00:25:28,760
Speaker 1: it's still like milk on his neck. Yeah. And Bayla's like, listen, no,

458
00:25:29,720 --> 00:25:32,880
Speaker 1: I am a Targari And she said, I'm fire and blood.

459
00:25:33,040 --> 00:25:35,399
Speaker 1: I'm fire and blood. You need the salt in the

460
00:25:35,440 --> 00:25:36,720
Speaker 1: sea for whoever's gonna.

461
00:25:36,480 --> 00:25:38,240
Speaker 3: Be the dress to someone else. She's like, I don't

462
00:25:38,280 --> 00:25:38,919
Speaker 3: fucking want it.

463
00:25:39,160 --> 00:25:42,320
Speaker 1: Rania then is like, I need to reconnect with Damon.

464
00:25:42,320 --> 00:25:44,280
Speaker 1: I need to find out what his intentions are. She

465
00:25:44,520 --> 00:25:48,320
Speaker 1: gets Sir Alfred Broom pulls him aside and says, Alfred,

466
00:25:48,359 --> 00:25:50,679
Speaker 1: I have a sensitive mission for you. You're from the

467
00:25:50,720 --> 00:25:53,160
Speaker 1: Western Lands, you know the river lands a little bit.

468
00:25:53,359 --> 00:25:56,000
Speaker 1: Go to the Riverlands, go contact with Damon, find out

469
00:25:56,000 --> 00:25:58,160
Speaker 1: what's going on over there, find out if he's still

470
00:25:58,200 --> 00:25:58,680
Speaker 1: on our side.

471
00:25:58,800 --> 00:26:01,159
Speaker 2: I also like, I like this is really telling of

472
00:26:01,240 --> 00:26:05,000
Speaker 2: Ranera because also like she Sir Alfred Brum has been

473
00:26:05,000 --> 00:26:07,440
Speaker 2: given her the most shit, but it's because he actually

474
00:26:07,520 --> 00:26:10,040
Speaker 2: cares about her winning and he's trying to make a plan.

475
00:26:10,440 --> 00:26:12,520
Speaker 2: So I like that she can see past that she

476
00:26:12,560 --> 00:26:14,640
Speaker 2: doesn't have the ego, She's not trying to get rid

477
00:26:14,640 --> 00:26:16,719
Speaker 2: of him. She's like, you can actually go there and

478
00:26:16,840 --> 00:26:19,480
Speaker 2: find out what is going on. Is Damon gonna declare

479
00:26:19,520 --> 00:26:21,240
Speaker 2: for me? Is he trying to make a host of

480
00:26:21,280 --> 00:26:21,640
Speaker 2: his own?

481
00:26:21,960 --> 00:26:22,919
Speaker 3: I trust you?

482
00:26:23,040 --> 00:26:25,280
Speaker 2: And he's like, what should I say to Damon on

483
00:26:25,320 --> 00:26:27,000
Speaker 2: your behalf? And she's like, I want to finish our

484
00:26:27,040 --> 00:26:29,080
Speaker 2: last conversation, which we know is about.

485
00:26:28,920 --> 00:26:30,280
Speaker 3: Him killing a kid.

486
00:26:30,480 --> 00:26:31,479
Speaker 1: So she's pissed.

487
00:26:31,520 --> 00:26:34,000
Speaker 2: She wants him to know I'm not happy you can

488
00:26:34,080 --> 00:26:36,960
Speaker 2: be there committing your war crimes, falling in love with

489
00:26:36,960 --> 00:26:39,280
Speaker 2: a witch, having sex with your mum, whatever's going on,

490
00:26:39,440 --> 00:26:40,480
Speaker 2: I'm not happy with you.

491
00:26:41,080 --> 00:26:44,600
Speaker 1: Meanwhile, Damon's nightmares are continuing. He's woken in the dead

492
00:26:44,600 --> 00:26:48,360
Speaker 1: of night by Sir Strong, who says, listen, the river

493
00:26:48,440 --> 00:26:53,600
Speaker 1: Lords are here and they are absolutely outraged, because apparently

494
00:26:54,400 --> 00:26:56,879
Speaker 1: you're going to be shocked at this, Damon, the Blackwoods

495
00:26:56,880 --> 00:27:02,399
Speaker 1: have committed vast atrocities and war crime over on Bracken Lands,

496
00:27:02,640 --> 00:27:03,880
Speaker 1: and they've done it in your name.

497
00:27:04,040 --> 00:27:07,840
Speaker 2: Day held up your bana, a black banna with a

498
00:27:07,880 --> 00:27:10,560
Speaker 2: red dragon. They didn't do this subtlely. They didn't just

499
00:27:10,760 --> 00:27:13,520
Speaker 2: kidnap a couple of kids. They committed war crimes.

500
00:27:13,760 --> 00:27:14,359
Speaker 3: Oh baby.

501
00:27:14,560 --> 00:27:17,439
Speaker 2: The Riverlands are pissed, as one of them says, She's like,

502
00:27:17,480 --> 00:27:21,359
Speaker 2: the Riverlands are old and mysterious and magical and we

503
00:27:21,400 --> 00:27:22,960
Speaker 2: ain't kneel into you like fuck you.

504
00:27:23,560 --> 00:27:26,720
Speaker 1: So has Damon gained the Blackwoods but lost the river Lands?

505
00:27:26,760 --> 00:27:30,320
Speaker 1: We will find out. Meanwhile, Missaria's spy and Linda Massey,

506
00:27:30,640 --> 00:27:35,280
Speaker 1: one of the Queen's handmaidens, arrives in King's landing to

507
00:27:35,400 --> 00:27:40,000
Speaker 1: start fomenting that unrest in the streets uh and she

508
00:27:40,119 --> 00:27:44,320
Speaker 1: makes contact with someone who is one of Missaria's spy

509
00:27:44,480 --> 00:27:47,640
Speaker 1: contacts there in the city. Elsewhere, Lord Broom rides out

510
00:27:47,640 --> 00:27:51,560
Speaker 1: for Hairnhall Corlis makes his decision he will become hand.

511
00:27:51,920 --> 00:27:56,320
Speaker 1: Helena finds Aimond brooding on the throne very interestingly, and

512
00:27:56,359 --> 00:28:02,160
Speaker 1: she asks him was it worth the And I thought

513
00:28:02,240 --> 00:28:07,960
Speaker 1: she meant basically frying your brother, like cutting that bond, Yeah,

514
00:28:08,000 --> 00:28:10,520
Speaker 1: of fraternal love in order to get the What did

515
00:28:10,560 --> 00:28:11,200
Speaker 1: you think she meant?

516
00:28:11,320 --> 00:28:13,119
Speaker 2: Yeah, I definitely thought that's what she meant. And I

517
00:28:13,200 --> 00:28:16,720
Speaker 2: also thought it was really interesting again Helena's kind of

518
00:28:16,800 --> 00:28:19,960
Speaker 2: psychic nature coming through because she knows that Aimen did that.

519
00:28:20,040 --> 00:28:21,960
Speaker 2: But I also thought this was a great moment because

520
00:28:22,000 --> 00:28:25,000
Speaker 2: Helena and Aimond have always had that connection. Aimond clearly

521
00:28:25,000 --> 00:28:28,199
Speaker 2: loves Helena and kind of want Helena, so in that

522
00:28:28,240 --> 00:28:31,800
Speaker 2: moment as well, it was also just Helena knowing him

523
00:28:31,880 --> 00:28:35,320
Speaker 2: so well, she knows, like, you know, Allison might not

524
00:28:35,359 --> 00:28:38,160
Speaker 2: see it, she might need confirmation, but Helena knows exactly

525
00:28:38,200 --> 00:28:41,880
Speaker 2: what he did. And I'm very interested to see where

526
00:28:41,920 --> 00:28:44,320
Speaker 2: this goes, because I would assume my first thought was

527
00:28:44,320 --> 00:28:46,880
Speaker 2: that Aimond was going to try and, you know, take

528
00:28:46,920 --> 00:28:49,200
Speaker 2: Helena as his wife or something. There's always been that

529
00:28:49,240 --> 00:28:53,040
Speaker 2: connection there. But I liked how kind of disgusted Helena was.

530
00:28:53,080 --> 00:28:55,280
Speaker 2: Even though she did not like egg On, she still

531
00:28:55,360 --> 00:28:57,400
Speaker 2: was kind of like, oh, this is this is who

532
00:28:57,440 --> 00:28:58,440
Speaker 2: you are I see.

533
00:28:59,680 --> 00:29:03,280
Speaker 1: Gez returns to Dragonstone victorious he got to deal with

534
00:29:03,360 --> 00:29:05,560
Speaker 1: the phrase. He goes to see his mom to tell

535
00:29:05,600 --> 00:29:11,520
Speaker 1: her about it. Raniera is researching Visenya, who's very interesting warrior,

536
00:29:11,640 --> 00:29:15,280
Speaker 1: the more martial sister, wife of egg On, the conqueror,

537
00:29:15,480 --> 00:29:18,680
Speaker 1: and the wielding Night Sister. We get that Dark Sister first,

538
00:29:19,360 --> 00:29:22,000
Speaker 1: first wielder of Dark Sister, and of course the mother

539
00:29:22,240 --> 00:29:25,520
Speaker 1: of the Usurper and terrible King Mego or the Crewel.

540
00:29:25,960 --> 00:29:29,680
Speaker 1: Raniera then points out to Jace how frustrated. She's like,

541
00:29:29,680 --> 00:29:32,680
Speaker 1: you're frustrated not getting to I'm frustrated nobody will let

542
00:29:32,680 --> 00:29:35,520
Speaker 1: like I every time I say I'm gonna well, I'll go,

543
00:29:36,320 --> 00:29:38,920
Speaker 1: I'll take my dragon and I'll go, and everybody's like, no,

544
00:29:39,000 --> 00:29:41,440
Speaker 1: you can't. I can't do anything, and people are dying

545
00:29:41,720 --> 00:29:45,160
Speaker 1: for me. And she's mad with Jace that he didn't

546
00:29:45,240 --> 00:29:48,160
Speaker 1: clear her mission the mission to the phrase with her,

547
00:29:48,920 --> 00:29:51,240
Speaker 1: and Jace argues like I had to step up though,

548
00:29:51,880 --> 00:29:55,400
Speaker 1: and through this conversation they kind of hit on a plan.

549
00:29:56,200 --> 00:29:58,760
Speaker 1: They're talking about the fact that listen the Greens are

550
00:29:58,800 --> 00:30:01,120
Speaker 1: always gonna have a bigger army than us, no matter

551
00:30:01,200 --> 00:30:04,680
Speaker 1: what we do. But we have more dragons, and we

552
00:30:04,800 --> 00:30:07,280
Speaker 1: have two huge dragons. They're not as big as Vagar,

553
00:30:07,320 --> 00:30:09,720
Speaker 1: but they're very, very big, Verma Thorn silver Winger, the

554
00:30:09,800 --> 00:30:15,480
Speaker 1: two other biggest dragons. And Jace says, well, listen, those

555
00:30:15,520 --> 00:30:20,040
Speaker 1: two could certainly take out Vagar, maybe alone, but certainly together.

556
00:30:20,360 --> 00:30:23,840
Speaker 1: All we need are riders, and so Jay says, okay,

557
00:30:23,840 --> 00:30:31,040
Speaker 1: what about this. There's a lot of noble people around us, Knights, noblemen,

558
00:30:31,600 --> 00:30:37,400
Speaker 1: noble ladies who have Targarian blood, but they're not called Targarians, right,

559
00:30:37,440 --> 00:30:42,760
Speaker 1: They're called by other names. What if we looked through

560
00:30:43,040 --> 00:30:46,080
Speaker 1: all these papers that you have here in the library

561
00:30:46,400 --> 00:30:51,880
Speaker 1: and find nobles with Targarian blood, maybe they could ride dragons?

562
00:30:52,160 --> 00:30:55,400
Speaker 1: Could that work? And that seems to be the plan

563
00:30:55,440 --> 00:30:59,160
Speaker 1: they hit on going forward Boom.

564
00:30:58,680 --> 00:31:01,280
Speaker 2: We'll be back after we've sweat the halls of Haroen

565
00:31:01,320 --> 00:31:04,640
Speaker 2: Hall to clear the way for more of Damon's Terrible Nightmare.

566
00:31:19,480 --> 00:31:21,120
Speaker 1: And we're back. Okay.

567
00:31:21,160 --> 00:31:23,560
Speaker 2: So I got to ask you, does that is that

568
00:31:23,680 --> 00:31:26,080
Speaker 2: a shock to you as a book? Not like is

569
00:31:26,120 --> 00:31:28,800
Speaker 2: that something? Is that a plan that was known about.

570
00:31:28,640 --> 00:31:30,760
Speaker 1: Yeah, that's a plan that was known about, Like do.

571
00:31:30,760 --> 00:31:35,440
Speaker 2: They know do the historians know that they went outside

572
00:31:35,960 --> 00:31:38,360
Speaker 2: to these because she mentions, you know, Tarlie, she talks

573
00:31:38,400 --> 00:31:39,280
Speaker 2: about these other people.

574
00:31:39,560 --> 00:31:40,560
Speaker 3: Is that a known plan?

575
00:31:40,640 --> 00:31:43,600
Speaker 1: Because it seems kind of huge. It's a big deal, certainly,

576
00:31:44,360 --> 00:31:49,000
Speaker 1: and it's in the books, and there's a more famous

577
00:31:49,040 --> 00:31:50,760
Speaker 1: aspect of it that I don't want to spoil for

578
00:31:50,920 --> 00:31:53,680
Speaker 1: non book readers that is in the books as well. Like,

579
00:31:53,880 --> 00:31:56,560
Speaker 1: this plan goes much further than I think Raniera and

580
00:31:56,640 --> 00:32:00,240
Speaker 1: Jason envisioning right now. But I think the danger of

581
00:32:00,280 --> 00:32:05,480
Speaker 1: this plan, Rosie, We've already seen the common folk their

582
00:32:05,480 --> 00:32:07,560
Speaker 1: mystique of dragons has been pierced a little bit. We

583
00:32:07,600 --> 00:32:10,120
Speaker 1: saw Hugh the Hammer saying like, it's just they're just meat.

584
00:32:10,320 --> 00:32:14,680
Speaker 1: They're just animals. They're animal animals, So you have to wonder.

585
00:32:15,080 --> 00:32:18,800
Speaker 1: So much of the Targurian fitness to rule is based

586
00:32:18,800 --> 00:32:21,040
Speaker 1: around the fact that, hey, only we can ride dragons.

587
00:32:21,360 --> 00:32:26,800
Speaker 1: If you start putting Tarley's and Tully's and Barathians on dragons,

588
00:32:28,600 --> 00:32:30,800
Speaker 1: I think there will be a price to be paid

589
00:32:31,600 --> 00:32:35,239
Speaker 1: in the mystique that the Targarians have, the way they

590
00:32:35,280 --> 00:32:38,120
Speaker 1: are viewed in the realm, they will be less special

591
00:32:38,200 --> 00:32:41,880
Speaker 1: at that point, but you gotta do what you gotta

592
00:32:41,920 --> 00:32:47,320
Speaker 1: do to win the war, right mm hmmm. I think

593
00:32:47,440 --> 00:32:51,480
Speaker 1: Kristen Cole, who I hate with a burning fucking passion,

594
00:32:52,080 --> 00:32:55,320
Speaker 1: is one of the most interesting villains that I've ever seen.

595
00:32:55,360 --> 00:33:00,360
Speaker 1: I agree, he's like not doing He's not evil, he's

596
00:33:00,400 --> 00:33:03,240
Speaker 1: not doing like terribly evil stuff. He's just like a

597
00:33:03,400 --> 00:33:07,320
Speaker 1: jilted ex boyfriend who's being such an ass about it,

598
00:33:07,800 --> 00:33:12,680
Speaker 1: and it makes him so fucking hateable. Yeah, it's super relatable.

599
00:33:13,080 --> 00:33:15,800
Speaker 2: Fabian is doing such a brilliant rove with the character

600
00:33:16,360 --> 00:33:19,680
Speaker 2: and I kind of I really love that Joelle pointed

601
00:33:19,680 --> 00:33:20,000
Speaker 2: this out.

602
00:33:20,000 --> 00:33:22,000
Speaker 3: But it's like, it's kind of just someone you could

603
00:33:22,040 --> 00:33:23,520
Speaker 3: meet in the streets or someone you.

604
00:33:23,480 --> 00:33:26,000
Speaker 2: Have met, but it's what if he had this kind

605
00:33:26,040 --> 00:33:30,320
Speaker 2: of power over your fate, over your kingdom. And I

606
00:33:30,360 --> 00:33:34,440
Speaker 2: think he becomes more hateable the more powerful he becomes,

607
00:33:34,480 --> 00:33:37,120
Speaker 2: because it's all just driven by spite towards Ranera because

608
00:33:37,120 --> 00:33:39,680
Speaker 2: she didn't want to sell like oranges and cinemas him,

609
00:33:40,480 --> 00:33:43,120
Speaker 2: which like, my guy, please, like please.

610
00:33:43,560 --> 00:33:47,640
Speaker 1: I think this is a really fascinating episode for Allison

611
00:33:47,720 --> 00:33:52,520
Speaker 1: because I think now all the blinders are off in

612
00:33:52,600 --> 00:33:55,920
Speaker 1: terms of what side she is on. You know, she,

613
00:33:56,880 --> 00:34:00,440
Speaker 1: I think, maybe for the first time, is wondering, am

614
00:34:00,480 --> 00:34:01,560
Speaker 1: I on the right team?

615
00:34:02,520 --> 00:34:02,880
Speaker 3: Yeah?

616
00:34:02,920 --> 00:34:03,080
Speaker 2: Oh?

617
00:34:03,120 --> 00:34:05,680
Speaker 3: Are we the bad guys? Like I do? Also, I

618
00:34:05,720 --> 00:34:06,360
Speaker 3: think she's.

619
00:34:06,200 --> 00:34:08,759
Speaker 2: Probably after the meeting with Ranera in the sept and

620
00:34:09,320 --> 00:34:11,520
Speaker 2: she's probably wondering, like, what would.

621
00:34:11,280 --> 00:34:14,720
Speaker 3: My life look like if Ranera was queen?

622
00:34:14,880 --> 00:34:18,600
Speaker 2: Yeah, if we hadn't have done this and my best

623
00:34:18,640 --> 00:34:21,239
Speaker 2: friend took her place on the throne and I was

624
00:34:21,320 --> 00:34:23,839
Speaker 2: just part of her court, Like, maybe my life would

625
00:34:23,880 --> 00:34:26,120
Speaker 2: be a little better now, Maybe it would be a

626
00:34:26,160 --> 00:34:29,120
Speaker 2: little less complex, Maybe I would still have people I

627
00:34:29,160 --> 00:34:32,840
Speaker 2: can trust, because Alison is utterly alone. And also I

628
00:34:32,840 --> 00:34:36,279
Speaker 2: think she's probably deeply missing Otto's presence right now.

629
00:34:36,920 --> 00:34:40,120
Speaker 1: What do you think Amond is going to do about Eggon?

630
00:34:40,520 --> 00:34:44,480
Speaker 1: I mean, I think that he is a little annoyed

631
00:34:44,760 --> 00:34:48,799
Speaker 1: that Eggon is still alive. You have to remember that

632
00:34:49,080 --> 00:34:51,359
Speaker 1: however long you know, to get back from Rook's rest,

633
00:34:51,400 --> 00:34:54,600
Speaker 1: this is probably like a couple of weeks later. So yeah,

634
00:34:54,680 --> 00:34:59,880
Speaker 1: Eggon may still die, but he's certainly stronger than probably

635
00:35:00,000 --> 00:35:01,400
Speaker 1: he thought, and.

636
00:35:01,920 --> 00:35:05,600
Speaker 2: He did he did even when she'd you know, Allison

637
00:35:05,640 --> 00:35:08,120
Speaker 2: had been there touching his hand, touching his face, and

638
00:35:08,200 --> 00:35:11,600
Speaker 2: as she walked off, he went, mummy, you know, so

639
00:35:11,680 --> 00:35:14,359
Speaker 2: he's he's kind of murmuring is he gonna wake up?

640
00:35:14,480 --> 00:35:16,600
Speaker 2: I could see aim and putting a quick pillow over

641
00:35:16,640 --> 00:35:17,040
Speaker 2: his head.

642
00:35:17,719 --> 00:35:18,480
Speaker 3: I don't think.

643
00:35:18,640 --> 00:35:21,040
Speaker 2: I think he's I think he would have the support

644
00:35:21,040 --> 00:35:22,480
Speaker 2: of most of the council too.

645
00:35:22,640 --> 00:35:24,839
Speaker 1: I think well in the sense that they'd be too

646
00:35:24,840 --> 00:35:27,200
Speaker 1: scared to fucking say anything, like who's gonna say anything?

647
00:35:27,640 --> 00:35:31,960
Speaker 1: That's the thing is, if he did that, there'd be whispers,

648
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Speaker 1: but nobody would come out and stand up and say,

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Speaker 1: Aim and you usurped the throne? How dare you? Like

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Speaker 1: during the middle of a war, And even if we weren't,

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Speaker 1: you'd get your head cut off for saying something like that.

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Speaker 2: Yeah. Also as well, like what there's like, what are

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Speaker 2: they gonna do? Call him mckinslair twice. Yeah, I know

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Speaker 2: he's already slater kid. He already slatest kid. He's chill

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Speaker 2: with it like that's okay. And I yeah, So I'm

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Speaker 2: very interested because you'd kind of talked about how in

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Speaker 2: the books they'd made it out that this was like

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Speaker 2: these two brothers together going off and doing that plan.

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Speaker 3: So is this kind of more conniving.

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Speaker 2: Oh yeah, villainous Aimen is like, this is a this

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Speaker 2: is a surprise.

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Speaker 1: This is not in the books. This is I wouldn't

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Speaker 1: call it a change. I would call it that something.

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Speaker 1: It's it's one of those details that absolutely fits within

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Speaker 1: the framework of the books as propaganda, and it would

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Speaker 1: make sense. It's be something that they would leave out,

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Speaker 1: the historians would leave out, and certainly the pro Green historians,

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Speaker 1: the voices that wrote those books, would would leave out.

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Speaker 1: I think it's a very interesting wrinkle, and it puts

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Speaker 1: a lot of the things that aimened no spoilers, but

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Speaker 1: the things that Aimond does later in his reign as

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Speaker 1: prince as Prince Regent, and it puts them in a

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Speaker 1: different and really interesting context. And I think it absolutely fits.

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Speaker 1: I don't I don't really see it as a change

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Speaker 1: or a twist per se as a and I see

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Speaker 1: it more of the fleshing out of the of the narrative.

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Speaker 1: But it is certainly very very interesting and it's like

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Speaker 1: certainly fits with what we know of Amond, I think,

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Speaker 1: don't you mm hmm, yeah.

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Speaker 2: I think it feels completely natural, even from what I've

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Speaker 2: read of the books. I just love the reveal and

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Speaker 2: you are Mitchell so good at playing it.

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Speaker 1: I don't think anybody's ever looked more targarian than him.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I know he was made for this role.

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Speaker 2: Also, I want to give a shout out to Tom

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Speaker 2: glen Connie, who plays egg On, because I do think

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Speaker 2: something that they've done and we were talking about this

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Speaker 2: in pre pro but like something they've done that's kind

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Speaker 2: of incredible is he is an awful person. We've seen

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Speaker 2: him do terrible things, but they make you feel for him.

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Speaker 2: They show you these moments of compassion towards the small folk,

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Speaker 2: or when he kind of snuggled up to Sunfire just

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Speaker 2: before they flew into battle. And now he's, you know,

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Speaker 2: in great pain and he's been betrayed by his brother,

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Speaker 2: and you feel for him even though you've seen him

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Speaker 2: do these terrible things. And I think there's a lot

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Speaker 2: of nuance there that we didn't necessarily always getting our

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Speaker 2: villains in Game of Perones.

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Speaker 1: Okay, let's do a scorecard. Who is who is winning

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Speaker 1: the war? Right now?

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Speaker 2: Rosie, I am going to say that I do think

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Speaker 2: even though it's rare turnout for the books, I think

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Speaker 2: I'm giving the point to the Black Faction because you

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Speaker 2: know what, I think Missia is a strong fighter. I

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Speaker 2: think that Kristen Cole overplayed his hand dragging Maylee's through

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Speaker 2: the court, and I think that the small Folk are

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Speaker 2: going to become a huge part. Plus teaming up with

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Speaker 2: her son Jays and acknowledging that he has the part

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Speaker 2: to play has led to this plan where they could

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Speaker 2: potentially have more Dragon writers. So even though it might

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Speaker 2: not be at this moment the power balance might not

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Speaker 2: be in their favor, I do think that tactically this

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Speaker 2: was a This ended up being a strong episode, So

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Speaker 2: I would say I would say the Black Faction, what

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Speaker 2: about you.

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Speaker 1: I think the Greens are winning in the field, but

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Speaker 1: the Blacks have had a good episode. On paper, it's

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Speaker 1: kind of like, you know, like a preseason projection. The

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Speaker 1: Fray move is a good move. Yes, yeah, Fomenting the

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Speaker 1: rebellion if it indeed that happens from the small folk,

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Speaker 1: the uprising of the small folk, great idea, starting to

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Speaker 1: look for other riders. These are all good things, and

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Speaker 1: I think on paper, when they bear fruit, if and

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Speaker 1: when they bear fruit, that will be tremendously impactful to

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Speaker 1: the war. That said, in terms of what's actually happening.

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Speaker 1: The Greens I think are clearly winning. Although you like

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Speaker 1: this movement from the Blacks, you like to see them

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Speaker 1: start to plan.

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Speaker 3: So what do you think a draw or do the

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Speaker 3: Greens still take it?

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Speaker 2: Because Amen's now in power and he's probably a better

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Speaker 2: person to have I.

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Speaker 1: Would be concerned. Well, there's a strength and a weakness

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Speaker 1: there there, because like aimand as Prince Regent, you can't

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Speaker 1: go flying away on Vagar Willi nilly now you have

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Speaker 1: to stay around King's landing. That said, I think the

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Speaker 1: Greens are in control. Perception is reality. I think people

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Speaker 1: would be looking around and saying the Greens are kind

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Speaker 1: of in their driver's seat, And to be fair, the

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Speaker 1: Blacks are not. They're in a gathering stage, they're in

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Speaker 1: a planning stage. They haven't actually done anything yet. So

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Speaker 1: I think the Greens are in the lead.

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Speaker 3: Sadly, Okay, we're giving that point to the Greens.

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Speaker 2: Maybe if some of these plans come to fruition for

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Speaker 2: Veranera next episode, we could have a different ANSA.

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Speaker 1: Well, we're going to continue our coverage of House to

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Speaker 1: the Dragon in coming weeks. On Thursday's episode, we're getting

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Speaker 1: into the penultimate episode of the Accolade. That's it for

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Speaker 1: this episode. Thanks for listening. Bye x ray Vision is

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Speaker 1: song is by Brian Basquez.

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Speaker 3: Special thanks to so Reuben and Chris Lord.

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