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Speaker 3: Good morning, sweetld and welcome to the Nodunks podcast on

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Speaker 3: the Athletic Network. It's Tuesday, December third, twenty twenty four.

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Speaker 3: I'm Jay Skeets here in the Classic Factory and alongside

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Speaker 3: me as always task.

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Speaker 1: Mellus podcast listeners. That's for you.

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Speaker 3: Next to him, it's the Bearded One, a top shot boy,

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Speaker 3: Trick Kirby Hey and over Yonder making the magic happen.

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Speaker 3: Super producer JD. There he is here, we are. Hello

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Speaker 3: to everyone on YouTube. Take a second, hit the like button,

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Speaker 3: subscribe podcast listeners, five star ratings and reviews. My pumpkin

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Speaker 3: Pie pick them payoff continues. It's a whole lot of

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Speaker 3: peas there. I hopefully didn't pop. Just to give you

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Speaker 3: an update. I know we have a photo actually, JD

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Speaker 3: of where are we left off after day one of

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Speaker 3: eating pumpkin pie? And there it is not a bad dent.

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Speaker 3: Norah pointed out you went with the big bird strategy

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Speaker 3: and I was like, what it's like, it sort of

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Speaker 3: looks like big Bird. It's like, yeah, it sort of does.

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Speaker 3: So I got to continue to take down this costco

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Speaker 3: pumpkin pie all what three point six pounds of it

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Speaker 3: didn't feel great yesterday. I'm not gonna lie to you,

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Speaker 3: guys love the custard, but I think I learned some

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Speaker 3: things from yesterday coffee out. It was not pairing well

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Speaker 3: with the coffee. Going straight water here today, and of

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Speaker 3: course we're going to not have to worry about the

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Speaker 3: middle of the pie as much as some of the

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Speaker 3: crust now, which I think I like more.

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Speaker 4: The water will come in handy, can you get this

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Speaker 3: So I think we're going to try and like, you know.

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Speaker 5: Get to like here. I like the.

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Speaker 3: Border here, and then we will make our way across

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Speaker 3: the plains. Okay, So that's the plan for day two

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Speaker 3: of the Pumpkin Pie payoffs.

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Speaker 4: Let's go.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, hopefully you feel better after day two.

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Speaker 5: I don't know why you would, but yeah, you do.

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Speaker 4: He's gonna be craving it after day two.

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Speaker 3: I guess the thing I keep struggling with is do

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Speaker 3: I eat breakfast or not in the morning. I'm a

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Speaker 4: I love my egg loves his eggs.

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Speaker 3: I didn't yesterday and I did it once again today.

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Speaker 3: But then the weird part is I didn't have another

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Speaker 3: piece of food yesterday until like four o'clock when I

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Speaker 3: I don't know, maybe I should slip in an egg

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Speaker 4: The podcast Simple Breakfast.

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Speaker 3: Okay, Well, as I get ready for my first bite here,

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Speaker 3: let's get into last night's games, and then we're gonna

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Speaker 3: check the polls and obviously continue our new December pick

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Speaker 3: them battle. But let's start with the Timberwolves blowing out

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Speaker 3: some really good defense here, and I know we'll get

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Speaker 3: into the Lakers. Damn it, I drop my piece. That's

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Speaker 3: a good chance too. But let's let's start with that,

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Speaker 3: because we had a bunch of blowouts last night, but

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Speaker 3: that's the one that's sort of juicy from the way

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Speaker 3: the Lakers are struggling. Maybe the Wolves turning the corner

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I think there's some immaculate vibes going on with

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Speaker 1: Frenchman Armelt Trauay for a dunk. Forgot that Armault Trouay

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Speaker 1: The point is that was terrible defense on Rudy Gobert.

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Speaker 1: But Rudy Gobert got to the rim, and Anthony Edwards

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Speaker 1: He's playing point guard way more than he basically ever

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Speaker 1: had to do. He had nine helpers in this game.

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Speaker 1: He was getting out there on the fast break as

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Speaker 1: they kicked the Lakers, but twenty to seven in the

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Speaker 1: read performing well. Anthony Andwers just had a quiet one

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Speaker 1: and they're good enough defensively. It was the big thing

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Speaker 1: here for me there they're starting to come together. Five hundred,

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Speaker 1: tough schedule coming up, but it does look like they're

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Speaker 3: Yeah, last night was what I guess tabbed as eighty

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Speaker 3: quiet night. Trace is what Tasa is saying. It was

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Speaker 3: all these other guys. Devencenzo was great, Go Bear was solid, Randall.

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Speaker 3: It depends when you're looking at him. I think it

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Speaker 3: looks awesome sometimes and then really, what the hell are

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Speaker 6: I'm going to see more than two wins to say

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Speaker 6: Not great to hear from a guy who's taking his

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Speaker 6: is awesome for the Vibes. You saw Julius Randal and

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Speaker 6: Rudy Gobert having fun together. They were cooking the Lakers

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Speaker 6: off the dribble, ridiculous stuff. This is just a nice

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Speaker 6: win for the Timberwolves. I think a really poor performance

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Speaker 6: for the Lakers. They looked tiny compared to a Timberwolves

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Speaker 6: team that JJ mentioned postgame. They basically start three seven

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Speaker 6: last night scored eighteen points in Julius Randall. It was

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Speaker 6: all the defense that won the game here, which is

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Speaker 6: why the Lakers are a little more interesting to talk about,

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Speaker 6: I think, based on the game last night, because they're

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Speaker 6: playing terrible right now. So good couple of wins against

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Speaker 6: the LA teams for Minnesota, you like to see them

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Speaker 6: getting on the same page, certainly, but I think they

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Speaker 3: One thing I liked was the Wolves using at the

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Speaker 3: beginning of the second and fourth quarters the lineup of Gobert, Reed, Nikhil,

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Speaker 3: Alexander Walker, Devincenzo and then Conley, and that lineup played

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Speaker 3: But yeah, it was against the Lakers team who's in

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Speaker 3: Lebron James they're not now talking about whether the Lakers

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Speaker 3: and Reddick and Lebron are going to reconsider tasks Lebron's

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Speaker 3: idea of playing all eighty two games here amid this

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Speaker 3: crazy shooting slump, because Lebron once again couldn't hit a

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Speaker 3: three pointer last night, and man, he was really missing

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Speaker 3: last night, I mean brick off the backboard, the airbowled

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Speaker 3: the last four games that's a slump he has not

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Speaker 3: check off. I played all eighty two games in you

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Speaker 3: know my what is it? Twenty second season, twenty first

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Speaker 5: Twenty two.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, he's tied the all time high Vincecard with twenty

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Speaker 1: two seasons. I haven't heard JJ Reddick really contemplate a

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Speaker 1: I mean, the five and seven flying from Utah to

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Speaker 1: much work you put into your body. Those videos going

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Speaker 1: around of Lebron working out that core hours before the game,

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Speaker 1: I mean, it's obviously gonna wear him down. And yeah,

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Speaker 1: he's missed his last nineteen threes, but he's human, and

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Speaker 1: back to backs suck for everybody. For every thirty nine

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Speaker 1: old you just don't get better. So yeah, I think

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Speaker 1: I think he'll be It would work best for him.

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Speaker 1: He also needs some guys playing a little bit harder defensively.

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Speaker 1: I think that's what it comes down to, is that

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Speaker 1: this defense stinks in that there's they're nowhere close to

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Speaker 1: any anything like a championship team. That's the problem.

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Speaker 6: Lakers are saying our defense is good now, how they're

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Speaker 6: saying our defense is improved in the past couple of weeks,

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Speaker 6: they're like mid They're like fifteenth over the last ten games.

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Speaker 6: It's the offense that's struggling. Literally, JJ and Lebron are

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Speaker 6: saying we're working too much on defense. In in practice,

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Speaker 6: we work so much on defense that our offense thinks now,

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Speaker 6: and it does. But Lebron needs to take a rest. Absolutely.

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Speaker 6: I said last week that he looks old after that

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Speaker 6: Sun's game when Bradley Beal got him on a Chase

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Speaker 6: down block. Since then, sixteen points on eighteen shots against

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Speaker 6: the Spurs, twelve points on thirteen shots against the Thunder,

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Speaker 3: That's a lot.

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Speaker 4: Took twenty eight shots against the Jazz.

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Speaker 6: And then last night ten points on sixteen shots against

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Speaker 6: the Timberwolves. You mentioned skeets oh for nineteen from three.

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Speaker 6: Has there been a stretch of four games in Lebron's

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Speaker 6: career where he takes more shots than points scored.

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Speaker 4: I doubt it. It probably hasn't happened.

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Speaker 1: It's it's it's all an excuse, but yeah, you saw

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Speaker 4: Nothing's working on That's the problem is that they can't

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Speaker 6: They really can't, even though he hasn't been all that

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Speaker 6: They was shooting forty four percent from three the first

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Speaker 6: And honestly, like, will JJ be able to get Lebron

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Speaker 4: I'm never doing that again, So we'll see.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, we Well, a fun thing, a little trivia question

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Speaker 3: Cold, December twenty sixth to the thirty first. What a

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Speaker 5: Who do we talk about?

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Speaker 1: Did you see RJ.

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Speaker 1: Not like Michael Granger's question about his home road splits.

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Speaker 6: Darko said he needs to know that people can watch

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Speaker 3: Last night we had the hawked beating. The Pelicans won

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Speaker 6: Bozzellas just won a spot on the NBA dot Com

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Speaker 4: Big win for the Bulls over the Nets. You don't

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Speaker 1: He's trying to get everybody else involved. So the five

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Speaker 3: They have to be close to five hundred, that's the thing.

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Speaker 3: Did he make the crack or make that list, but

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Speaker 3: hopefully he did. Yeah, because he looks great.

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Speaker 1: I just wanted so he'll be twenty three soon the

435
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Speaker 1: day after or is it no, the day after the

436
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Speaker 1: NBA Cup Finals, So if they can.

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Speaker 5: Win the NBA.

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Speaker 3: Celebration in Vegas to blow on your birthday? Oh yeah, right,

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Speaker 3: what a birthday gift. Good point. Do it for Jail

440
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Speaker 3: and Big Johnson so I could hit the tables in Vegas.

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Speaker 4: Also say this, I'm surprised to see.

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Speaker 6: I was looking at some tweets from Will Gillery last night,

443
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Speaker 6: and underneath every tweet from we Will Gillery are Pelicans

444
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Speaker 6: beat writer here for the athletic Every.

445
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Speaker 4: Pelicans fan wants Willy Green fire.

446
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Speaker 6: They're saying it's time for him to go and look

447
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Speaker 6: the Pelicans have a ton of injuries. They've had a

448
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Speaker 6: ton of injuries since Willy Green has been the coach.

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Speaker 6: But they're also the worst second half team in the

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Speaker 6: league right now. This one was close through a couple

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Speaker 6: of quarters, but you only have to play the third

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Speaker 6: and the fourth quarter, and honestly, usually just the fourth

453
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Speaker 6: against the Pelicans right now. So if they need a scapegoat,

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Speaker 6: I think it would have to be Willy Green because

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Speaker 6: who else is it gonna be?

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Speaker 4: But that would be a tough way to go.

457
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Speaker 3: Oh, Like, he's looking around, what's nobody playing? I'm relying

458
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Speaker 3: on a guy named Boston. No it's not his first name,

459
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Speaker 3: it's his last name. And this guy's got to be

460
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Speaker 3: like our lead guy. Yeah, he's in a tough spot.

461
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Speaker 3: But I didn't know there was that sort of uproar

462
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Speaker 3: here from Pelicans fans.

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Speaker 4: It was trending for me.

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Speaker 3: Damn what Jesus? I did want to touch briefly on

465
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Speaker 3: the Celtics crushing the heat, just to give Peyton Pritchard

466
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Speaker 3: some love. This guy's on fire right now. He became

467
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Speaker 3: the first NBA player this season to score twenty or

468
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Speaker 3: more bench points in four straight games. If you go

469
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Speaker 3: look at his averages. Do you like to call him

470
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Speaker 3: fast PP or pe rabbit?

471
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Speaker 4: More bounce for me, I've never said p rabbit.

472
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Speaker 3: Pee rabbit. I like p rabbit makes me laugh. But anyway,

473
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Speaker 3: fast Ppe, which is also very weird, averaging twenty four

474
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Speaker 3: and a half points per game in less than thirty

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Speaker 3: one minutes off the bench. Over that four game stretch,

476
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Speaker 3: he's shooting forty nine percent from three on over five

477
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Speaker 3: made threes a game, and he's chipping in five boards,

478
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Speaker 3: three assists, a steal, and he never turns the ball

479
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Speaker 3: over like never, He's got like three turnovers in the

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Speaker 3: last four games. So he's just been awesome. I know

481
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Speaker 3: we'll get into maybe some of the award races at

482
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Speaker 3: the quarter pole mark of the season. Probably the favorite

483
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Speaker 3: YEP to win six Man of the Year with how

484
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Speaker 3: just consists he's played off the bench.

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Speaker 6: Preseason, Jalen Brown was the one who said, if we

486
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Speaker 6: played against a team like Detroit, we're going to go

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Speaker 6: to Peyton Pritchard. He's just going to dominate. They did

488
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Speaker 6: this against the heat. That's a problem for Miami. Pritchard's great.

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Speaker 6: They also call him post up because he's got a

490
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Speaker 6: decent post game for being five feet eight inches tall

491
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Speaker 6: or whatever it is. But the Heat were not competitive

492
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Speaker 6: at all last night against the Celtics. They're two to

493
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Speaker 6: six against five hundred teams so far this season. They

494
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Speaker 6: beat the Timberwolves by one point. They beat the Mavericks

495
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Speaker 6: with no Luka Doncic in overtime, so the point differential

496
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Speaker 6: against five hundred teams, it's got to be pretty bad.

497
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Speaker 6: They lost by twenty plus last night. Terry Rozier off

498
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Speaker 6: to a brutal start this season. Four points on two

499
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Speaker 6: of six shooting last night. He shooting forty percent from

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Speaker 6: the field, scoring only twelve a game. They moved him

501
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Speaker 6: to the bench, which has helped Jimmy Butler. He's getting

502
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Speaker 6: a lot more opportunity with the ball. But Rosier, the

503
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Speaker 6: trade for him has not worked out yet for the Heat,

504
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Speaker 6: I don't think. And then bam Atebaio is really not

505
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Speaker 6: doing much offensively. He's fifteen points a game, ten rebounds,

506
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Speaker 6: five assists, like decent numbers, but forty two percent from

507
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Speaker 6: the field, and that includes shooting thirty three percent from

508
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Speaker 6: brief That's nice, but it means you're shooting forty four

509
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Speaker 6: percent from two.

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Speaker 4: The Heat take like no layups.

511
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Speaker 6: They're all mid range jumpers, and they just look like

512
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Speaker 6: a team that is kind of beat from the start

513
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Speaker 6: of it. Like they got to have a great three

514
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Speaker 6: point shooting night from a Duncan Robinson, from a Tyler

515
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Speaker 6: Hero bam needs to get to the free throw line,

516
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Speaker 6: Jimmy Butler has to get to the free throw line.

517
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Speaker 6: Like things have to lay out perfectly for the Heat

518
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Speaker 6: to actually be competitive here. And that's not what I

519
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Speaker 6: was expecting going into the season. But there've been one

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Speaker 6: of the biggest disappointments through the first quarter season for sure.

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Speaker 3: I'm trying to find a tweet. I can't locate it

522
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Speaker 3: right now, but we were talking about disgruntled fan bases.

523
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Speaker 3: I saw. I believe it was hot hot hoops, so

524
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Speaker 3: apologies if it wasn't. I thought I saw it last

525
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Speaker 3: night like wondering if like, oh my, have we been

526
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Speaker 3: Hassan Whiteside again with the bam Adebayo contract extension. I

527
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Speaker 3: was like, whoa, it's gotten that bad. But he has

528
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Speaker 3: had a terrible start of the season and in times

529
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Speaker 3: where they needed him to step up to if Jimmy's

530
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Speaker 3: not playing or whatever, and he has able to do so. Yeah,

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Speaker 3: they are one of the more disappointing squads. And you

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Speaker 3: got the Jimmy Butler player option next, Like, what's gonna

533
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Speaker 3: happen with that? Like, is this the last year Jimmy

534
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Speaker 3: Butler with the heat of or is he just gonna

535
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Speaker 3: pick up fifty two million dollars?

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Speaker 1: It's tough to turn down.

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Speaker 3: Right happen. It's starting to feel like it's coming to

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Speaker 3: the end.

539
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Speaker 5: Though.

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Speaker 1: It's a strange year. Like you saw what Heina hawk

541
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Speaker 1: As did last year, lots of lots of love for him.

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Speaker 1: This year, he's gone to the bench and there's basically

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Speaker 1: been no talk about him. That's been strange that I

544
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Speaker 1: thought that was a strange move from Eric Spolstra. They're

545
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Speaker 1: trying Terry Rozier as the starter that hasn't worked out.

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Speaker 1: Swap those two. I feel like Rosier would be a

547
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Speaker 1: better six man in that situation. Speaking of six man,

548
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Speaker 1: a guy who is a surprise. We've talked about him,

549
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Speaker 1: DeAndre Hunter as a six man because his stats over

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Speaker 1: his last four games coming off the bench, whoa averaging

551
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Speaker 1: twenty two points. He you know, crashed through twenty three

552
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Speaker 1: of those four games at eighteen the other one fifty seven.

553
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Speaker 5: Percent from the floor fifty four from three.

554
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Speaker 1: Who is this guy? He is a different player coming

555
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Speaker 1: off the bench for the first time in his career

556
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Speaker 1: since he was drafted in twenty nineteen. This is first

557
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Speaker 1: year coming off the bench predominantly.

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Speaker 5: It's good.

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Speaker 1: It's working on it, as long as he stays out

560
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Speaker 1: making shots, yeah, which hasn't happened since twenty nineteen since

561
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Speaker 1: he was drafted, basically his whole career.

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Speaker 3: Well, that's a bunch of the blowouts from last night.

563
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Speaker 3: So let's get to something and maybe a little more fun.

564
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Speaker 3: We're bringing back check the polls. It's been a minute

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Speaker 3: since we've done Check the polls, and this is where

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Speaker 3: we throw up a pole to all of our notdunks fans.

567
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Speaker 3: We did this one on Twitter slash x yesterday, left

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Speaker 3: it up for whatever thirteen fourteen hours. Got close to

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Speaker 3: one thousand votes in most of these, so we'll go

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Speaker 3: through them. We can debate whether you agree with the

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Speaker 3: consensus or you would do something, you would pick something else,

572
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Speaker 3: stuff like that. First one, which team most needs to

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Speaker 3: make a t That was the poll, and we had

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Speaker 3: on this poll three teams and then the option of

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Speaker 3: other but we went Lakers Nets and Warriors, And I

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Speaker 3: don't know how many votes came in after the Lakers

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Speaker 3: sort of abysmal performance last night in Minnesota, but they

578
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Speaker 3: take this poll getting forty one point four percent as

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Speaker 3: the team sort of most needing to make a trade.

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Speaker 3: How did you vote, Tasks or were you surprised by

581
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Speaker 3: these results?

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Speaker 1: I agree with these people. I'm in agreeance. Usually I don't,

583
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Speaker 1: but I'm in agreeenance that the Lakers got to do

584
00:27:34,400 --> 00:27:37,800
Speaker 1: something here being how bad they are across the board defensively.

585
00:27:38,040 --> 00:27:40,439
Speaker 1: Brought up Jared Vanderbilt. They had hoped at the beginning

586
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Speaker 1: of the season. I'm sure jj Reddick hoped that the

587
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Speaker 1: talk about him coming back at the beginning of the

588
00:27:46,320 --> 00:27:50,240
Speaker 1: season would happen. It obviously has not, and he ain't

589
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Speaker 1: come back till at very least twenty twenty five because

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00:27:52,600 --> 00:27:56,399
Speaker 1: him and Ad they're good together defensively. When those two

591
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Speaker 1: have played since Jared Vanderbilt's got there as a duo,

592
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Speaker 1: a one oh eight point four defensive rating. That's damn good.

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Speaker 1: When those two are together, they would be perfect together.

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Speaker 1: But will that guy ever play? They're twenty fourth in

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Speaker 1: defensive rating. Most teams that win, are you know, a

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Speaker 1: top five defense. The Nuggets were one aberration where they

597
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Speaker 1: were like a middle of the pack defense and they

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Speaker 1: still won the championship. But there was hope that Max

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Speaker 1: Christy would be that guy. What are they going to do?

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Speaker 1: Are they going to get k CP back all of

601
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Speaker 1: a sudden? I mean, they really have to make a

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Speaker 1: move for them to get better defensively, because I do

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Speaker 1: I think there's other teams there that the Golden State

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Speaker 1: Warriors are willing to do it. They're definitely willing to

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Speaker 1: do it, but I think the Lakers need need to

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Speaker 1: do it.

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Speaker 3: So what could the Lakers realistically trade? I mean, who

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Speaker 3: are the players D'Angelo Russell? I guess for contract reasons

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Speaker 3: they do billion dollar aspiring contract.

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Speaker 6: Just play any of our podcasts from the past three

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Speaker 6: transaction cycles.

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Speaker 4: That's the same guys.

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Speaker 3: It's r Angela Russell.

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Speaker 4: Will they part with Austin Reeves? That's going to the question.

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Speaker 3: You can throw Gabe Vincent in there too, as they aspirings.

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Speaker 3: Thanks guys. Yeah, I'm not saying he's to talk to

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Speaker 3: him agent.

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Speaker 1: He's as public as Reeves is the guy that would

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Speaker 1: get something back and they haven't been willing to do

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Speaker 1: get something back. I mean, they need just a guy

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Speaker 1: who's blazed.

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Speaker 3: E well better than all three of those names are

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Speaker 3: the two unprotected first round picks that they do have

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Speaker 3: and could offer in trades in what twenty nine and

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Speaker 3: thirty one, And I guess you could then do pick

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Speaker 3: swaps as well obviously around that. So maybe that's something

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Speaker 3: I saw Michael Scutto of Hoopshype right yesterday. I love

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Speaker 3: saying that guy's name that you're supposed to keep an

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Speaker 3: eye on Los Angeles potentially dangling Gabe Vincent and then

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Speaker 3: future second round picks to try and land Wizard center

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Speaker 3: Yonas Valentiutas, who's a coveted Lakers target.

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Speaker 6: I actually love that Jannis Valanciunas has played in every

633
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Speaker 6: play in tournament, and.

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Speaker 4: I think that would ensure him keeping the street.

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Speaker 5: Yeah. Yeah.

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Speaker 6: Lakers this season are twelve and nine minus fifty three

637
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Speaker 6: point on the season point differential last season through twelve

638
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Speaker 6: gate twenty one games twelve to nine plus forty nine.

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Speaker 6: They are the exact same team. My guess is that

640
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Speaker 6: they were twelve and nine this season before because it's

641
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Speaker 6: been the same roster for this entire time since they

642
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Speaker 6: did the deal to bring in DiAngelo Russell.

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Speaker 4: It's like, we start him, he does good.

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Speaker 6: Sometimes we put him to the bench, thinks he's going

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Speaker 6: to be traded and starts playing well again, then guess what,

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Speaker 6: it doesn't work out. So yeah, the Lakers absolutely need

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Speaker 6: to make a trade, and the Balls are the team

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Speaker 6: they should trade with because any of their three trade

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Speaker 6: guys would help. Vooch Levigne or Lonzo Ball would be

650
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Speaker 6: a huge get for the Lakers at this point.

651
00:30:33,560 --> 00:30:34,640
Speaker 4: So pay up with the picks.

652
00:30:34,640 --> 00:30:38,080
Speaker 6: But I personally voted for the Warriors because they're really

653
00:30:38,120 --> 00:30:40,560
Speaker 6: showing their awards. I think since d Anthony Melton has

654
00:30:40,600 --> 00:30:42,440
Speaker 6: gone down, it just looks hard for Steve cur to

655
00:30:42,480 --> 00:30:45,640
Speaker 6: find balance with this lineup. Nobody plays on both sides

656
00:30:45,640 --> 00:30:48,640
Speaker 6: of the ball, basically nobody except for Wiggans. So I mean,

657
00:30:48,680 --> 00:30:51,440
Speaker 6: Steph Curry is an offensive player, Draymond Green's a defensive player.

658
00:30:51,560 --> 00:30:55,160
Speaker 6: Luckily those two combined they can actually score. But when

659
00:30:55,160 --> 00:30:57,880
Speaker 6: Steph Curry is on the floor, the Warriors play at

660
00:30:57,880 --> 00:30:59,880
Speaker 6: a league best offense one hundred and twenty two off

661
00:31:00,040 --> 00:31:02,120
Speaker 6: ends up raiding when he sits one hundred and seven,

662
00:31:02,200 --> 00:31:04,800
Speaker 6: that's twenty seventh in the league. They need somebody else

663
00:31:04,840 --> 00:31:06,360
Speaker 6: who can help score, and I think it's got to

664
00:31:06,360 --> 00:31:08,800
Speaker 6: be Jonathan Kumingez the guy to go. He just doesn't

665
00:31:08,840 --> 00:31:10,680
Speaker 6: really fit on this team. Kerr hasn't been able to

666
00:31:10,680 --> 00:31:13,520
Speaker 6: find him a consistent spot in the rotation because he

667
00:31:13,560 --> 00:31:17,040
Speaker 6: doesn't trust him to rebound and play defense with the

668
00:31:17,080 --> 00:31:19,760
Speaker 6: small lineups, and also then he can't score with the

669
00:31:19,760 --> 00:31:22,640
Speaker 6: big lineups because the shooting isn't there. They didn't come

670
00:31:22,680 --> 00:31:24,960
Speaker 6: to an agreement on an extension, but he's still a

671
00:31:24,960 --> 00:31:26,960
Speaker 6: guy that I think would be intriguing to other people

672
00:31:27,040 --> 00:31:29,360
Speaker 6: around the league as a young player who could maybe

673
00:31:29,360 --> 00:31:31,000
Speaker 6: get you twenty points per game if you give him

674
00:31:31,000 --> 00:31:34,800
Speaker 6: a little bit more of a responsibility. So personally, I

675
00:31:34,840 --> 00:31:37,280
Speaker 6: think if the Warriors are trying to contend, they've got

676
00:31:37,320 --> 00:31:40,480
Speaker 6: a good defense, but their offense just really lacks when

677
00:31:40,520 --> 00:31:42,800
Speaker 6: it's not Curry out there. And honestly, Curry and Green

678
00:31:42,840 --> 00:31:44,760
Speaker 6: playing together is kind of a cheat code as well,

679
00:31:44,840 --> 00:31:46,920
Speaker 6: just cause Draymond knows how to get Steph going.

680
00:31:47,120 --> 00:31:49,480
Speaker 4: But they got to figure out somebody else who can score.

681
00:31:50,760 --> 00:31:54,760
Speaker 1: Yeah, the guys that they're rumor to be getting Michael

682
00:31:54,800 --> 00:31:58,640
Speaker 1: Scotto as well. He mentioned Kyle Kuzma could be a

683
00:31:58,680 --> 00:32:01,280
Speaker 1: guy for them. I know he ain't a score, but

684
00:32:01,440 --> 00:32:04,640
Speaker 1: he helped win a championship and he was very nearly

685
00:32:04,680 --> 00:32:08,840
Speaker 1: traded last year to the MAVs, where apparently he declined

686
00:32:09,200 --> 00:32:12,360
Speaker 1: the trade going to the mass he said no, and

687
00:32:12,400 --> 00:32:15,440
Speaker 1: then they made the Gafford and PJ. Washington deals, So

688
00:32:15,480 --> 00:32:17,520
Speaker 1: that worked out extremely well for them. But Kyle Kuzman

689
00:32:17,600 --> 00:32:20,800
Speaker 1: on this team would help. But yes, it sure seems

690
00:32:20,840 --> 00:32:24,000
Speaker 1: like they are not willing to sign Jonathan Kuminga, and

691
00:32:24,040 --> 00:32:25,680
Speaker 1: they've always been willing to.

692
00:32:25,600 --> 00:32:26,160
Speaker 5: Make a trade.

693
00:32:26,200 --> 00:32:29,000
Speaker 1: They tried for Lowry Market, they tried for Paul George

694
00:32:29,200 --> 00:32:32,520
Speaker 1: mere months ago, and so it makes sense that they'd

695
00:32:32,520 --> 00:32:34,960
Speaker 1: go for somebody that would help Steph right here right now.

696
00:32:35,000 --> 00:32:37,280
Speaker 3: To just pivot quickly back to the Lakers, I do

697
00:32:37,360 --> 00:32:40,440
Speaker 3: wonder like if they're like doing their whole whiteboard there

698
00:32:40,440 --> 00:32:43,040
Speaker 3: and they're like, what's our most glaring weakness, Like what

699
00:32:43,120 --> 00:32:45,920
Speaker 3: could we do in a trade to try and help this?

700
00:32:46,120 --> 00:32:49,760
Speaker 3: Like is it to shore up like their lack of

701
00:32:49,760 --> 00:32:51,880
Speaker 3: depth at center? Like so is it a move for

702
00:32:52,000 --> 00:32:54,680
Speaker 3: JV or maybe even Purdle or someone like that? Is

703
00:32:54,720 --> 00:32:58,040
Speaker 3: it fixed their perimeter defense which is non existent? And

704
00:32:58,080 --> 00:33:00,239
Speaker 3: I know I get some of it being injuries like

705
00:33:00,760 --> 00:33:04,000
Speaker 3: Finney Smith. Maybe is can you get Marcus Smart? Would

706
00:33:04,040 --> 00:33:06,760
Speaker 3: he help there? Or is it this big sort of move,

707
00:33:06,800 --> 00:33:09,720
Speaker 3: get the splashy, bigger name as your third guy, zach Lavine,

708
00:33:10,720 --> 00:33:13,600
Speaker 3: you know maybe Brandon Ingram Probably not. But like Vucci, baby,

709
00:33:13,600 --> 00:33:15,680
Speaker 3: if you consider him a star too, would you give

710
00:33:15,800 --> 00:33:21,200
Speaker 3: up as a Bulls fan Zach Lavine for D'Angelo Ruey

711
00:33:21,320 --> 00:33:24,240
Speaker 3: and Vincent and then draft compensation. I guess you're probably

712
00:33:24,240 --> 00:33:26,240
Speaker 3: gonna just get to whatever the draft picks are. Let's

713
00:33:26,240 --> 00:33:29,400
Speaker 3: talk with these guys or no, yeah, yeah, yeah.

714
00:33:29,520 --> 00:33:31,200
Speaker 6: It was gonna cost the Bulls to get off Alvin

715
00:33:31,280 --> 00:33:33,720
Speaker 6: and Booch contracts in the summer, and now they're positive

716
00:33:33,720 --> 00:33:35,920
Speaker 6: assets at the very least, so I would do any move.

717
00:33:36,040 --> 00:33:37,640
Speaker 3: Yeah, and then you could. I mean, I think the

718
00:33:37,680 --> 00:33:40,240
Speaker 3: numbers work in terms of their contracts basically vouch for

719
00:33:40,280 --> 00:33:43,280
Speaker 3: D'Angelo Russell and then some sort of draft compensation and

720
00:33:43,320 --> 00:33:44,920
Speaker 3: something else. So you'd probably explore if.

721
00:33:44,880 --> 00:33:46,880
Speaker 4: You want to fix the defense, I'd go for butch.

722
00:33:47,160 --> 00:33:51,280
Speaker 3: Okay, there you go. Let's go to our next poll.

723
00:33:52,400 --> 00:33:56,040
Speaker 3: Sticking with trade talk because, uh, some buzz yesterday I

724
00:33:56,040 --> 00:33:59,480
Speaker 3: guess was from Mark Stein about the Utah Jazz wanting

725
00:33:59,480 --> 00:34:01,520
Speaker 3: to maybe trade some of their vets. So the poll

726
00:34:01,760 --> 00:34:05,120
Speaker 3: was which Utah Jazz player has the most trade value?

727
00:34:05,240 --> 00:34:08,000
Speaker 3: And the three options probably should have put Walker Kessler

728
00:34:08,000 --> 00:34:10,160
Speaker 3: in here as well, but you know, not as much

729
00:34:10,160 --> 00:34:12,160
Speaker 3: of a vet. But Jordan Clarkson was, You're an option

730
00:34:12,239 --> 00:34:15,839
Speaker 3: John Collins, and then Colin Sexton wins the vote with

731
00:34:16,040 --> 00:34:20,000
Speaker 3: fifty six point six percent tests of the most trade value.

732
00:34:20,120 --> 00:34:22,840
Speaker 3: Do you believe that of those three guys at least.

733
00:34:22,640 --> 00:34:26,400
Speaker 1: I wonder if Colin Sexton wins this just because he

734
00:34:26,560 --> 00:34:28,480
Speaker 1: had a moment at the end of the game against

735
00:34:28,480 --> 00:34:30,600
Speaker 1: the Los Angeles Lakers. They were like a recent one.

736
00:34:30,960 --> 00:34:35,520
Speaker 1: He made that the headlines I haven't heard Jordan Clarkson.

737
00:34:35,520 --> 00:34:37,359
Speaker 1: I mean, Jordan Clarkson made that nice pass to John

738
00:34:37,400 --> 00:34:39,640
Speaker 1: Collins for the win over the Dallas Mavericks. So I

739
00:34:39,680 --> 00:34:41,359
Speaker 1: was gonna say, I haven't heard of either of them,

740
00:34:41,680 --> 00:34:44,880
Speaker 1: but I will say, yeah, Sexton's a good score in

741
00:34:44,920 --> 00:34:49,520
Speaker 1: this league. But which team needs a bench punch is

742
00:34:49,560 --> 00:34:54,120
Speaker 1: the question if you're training for Colin Sexton. I think

743
00:34:54,160 --> 00:34:56,840
Speaker 1: John Collins is more of a seamless fit across the board.

744
00:34:56,880 --> 00:34:59,960
Speaker 1: I think he can go anywhere and help. He does everything.

745
00:35:00,360 --> 00:35:03,719
Speaker 1: He fights defensively, he can shoot the three a little bit.

746
00:35:03,719 --> 00:35:07,480
Speaker 1: He's big, athletic, he's young enough, he can help. Defensively,

747
00:35:07,600 --> 00:35:09,920
Speaker 1: he can help. He's just more of a plug and

748
00:35:10,000 --> 00:35:12,520
Speaker 1: play type of guy. So I think it's them. I

749
00:35:12,520 --> 00:35:16,400
Speaker 1: think all three of these guys are signed for basically

750
00:35:16,480 --> 00:35:18,520
Speaker 1: the same amount of years, although there's a player option

751
00:35:18,600 --> 00:35:21,480
Speaker 1: for John Collinson there. But Clarkson is the oldest, he's

752
00:35:21,640 --> 00:35:23,640
Speaker 1: banged up at times, he's not having a great season.

753
00:35:23,680 --> 00:35:26,080
Speaker 1: He's the cheapest, I guess, but I think Collins is

754
00:35:25,640 --> 00:35:29,239
Speaker 1: the one that will fit seamlessly anywhere for me.

755
00:35:29,719 --> 00:35:31,680
Speaker 3: How did you vote with this one? I had a

756
00:35:31,680 --> 00:35:32,560
Speaker 3: hard time with this one.

757
00:35:32,600 --> 00:35:34,719
Speaker 6: I kind of wish Walker Kessler in there because I

758
00:35:34,719 --> 00:35:36,840
Speaker 6: would have definitely voted for him. I'm not really interested

759
00:35:36,840 --> 00:35:38,879
Speaker 6: in any of these guys from the Jazz. I think

760
00:35:38,960 --> 00:35:41,480
Speaker 6: Clarkson is maybe the guy I would choose. He could

761
00:35:41,520 --> 00:35:44,080
Speaker 6: Lonnie Walker, you a quarter win a quarter. He's thirty

762
00:35:44,120 --> 00:35:46,440
Speaker 6: two years old. Though, I'm with you John Collins, like,

763
00:35:46,440 --> 00:35:48,640
Speaker 6: maybe he's a nice backup big for somebody, But you

764
00:35:48,640 --> 00:35:50,640
Speaker 6: want to pay him twenty six million dollars and trade

765
00:35:50,640 --> 00:35:53,359
Speaker 6: something for a backup big. That doesn't make sense. As

766
00:35:53,480 --> 00:35:55,719
Speaker 6: for Sexton never played in the playoffs. I think he's

767
00:35:55,719 --> 00:35:57,719
Speaker 6: only good on bad teams, kind of like when he

768
00:35:57,760 --> 00:36:00,440
Speaker 6: started starting a couple of seasons ago was when the

769
00:36:00,520 --> 00:36:03,560
Speaker 6: Jazz really started falling off. He was great last year,

770
00:36:03,640 --> 00:36:06,480
Speaker 6: they were bad last year. Look what's happening again. His

771
00:36:07,080 --> 00:36:09,480
Speaker 6: worst season with the Cavs was when they were the best. Like,

772
00:36:09,800 --> 00:36:12,520
Speaker 6: something's not adding up here. I personally wouldn't trust him.

773
00:36:12,560 --> 00:36:14,520
Speaker 6: I'd rather go for the guys on the nets. Dennis

774
00:36:14,520 --> 00:36:17,600
Speaker 6: Shruder I think is a better get Cam Johnson, DFS.

775
00:36:17,600 --> 00:36:20,040
Speaker 6: I'd play a tiny premium for those guys over anybody

776
00:36:20,080 --> 00:36:20,600
Speaker 6: from the Jazz.

777
00:36:20,719 --> 00:36:22,600
Speaker 3: I will say John Collins has been on a bit

778
00:36:22,640 --> 00:36:24,800
Speaker 3: of a tear since going back into the starting lineup,

779
00:36:24,840 --> 00:36:28,640
Speaker 3: at least numbers wise, averaging twenty to ten, shooting fifty

780
00:36:28,680 --> 00:36:30,680
Speaker 3: six percent from the floor in forty percent from three,

781
00:36:30,760 --> 00:36:33,040
Speaker 3: so he's been good in that starting role. I guess

782
00:36:33,440 --> 00:36:36,840
Speaker 3: I saw Scotto saying at Hoops Hype about Walker Kessler

783
00:36:36,960 --> 00:36:40,400
Speaker 3: that the asking price still very high from Danny Ainge.

784
00:36:40,440 --> 00:36:43,160
Speaker 3: There no way wants at least two first round picks

785
00:36:43,640 --> 00:36:46,880
Speaker 3: to get Walker Kessler away from the Jazz. So maybe

786
00:36:46,920 --> 00:36:48,800
Speaker 3: these other guys are more realistic in terms of what

787
00:36:48,840 --> 00:36:50,680
Speaker 3: it would take. And of course we don't have Larry

788
00:36:50,719 --> 00:36:53,480
Speaker 3: Markinen on this list. He can't be traded until the offseason,

789
00:36:53,560 --> 00:36:56,399
Speaker 3: right at the earliest after signing his contract extension when

790
00:36:56,440 --> 00:37:00,399
Speaker 3: he did because of the Collective Bargaining Agreement rules. Yeah,

791
00:37:00,600 --> 00:37:05,480
Speaker 3: the Jazz have definitely leaned into playing their young guys

792
00:37:05,520 --> 00:37:07,400
Speaker 3: and as a result going to be one of the

793
00:37:07,440 --> 00:37:10,920
Speaker 3: worst teams in the league. So it's it's pretty reasonable

794
00:37:10,960 --> 00:37:13,520
Speaker 3: to consider them trading one, if not two, maybe the

795
00:37:13,560 --> 00:37:16,759
Speaker 3: all three of these guys to get something back for

796
00:37:16,840 --> 00:37:23,440
Speaker 3: the future. Next one here, MVP. We asked the people,

797
00:37:23,480 --> 00:37:26,320
Speaker 3: who's your MVP right now? Only gave you four options,

798
00:37:26,320 --> 00:37:29,560
Speaker 3: didn't even throw another on there. Basketball Reference has these

799
00:37:29,600 --> 00:37:35,120
Speaker 3: guys as the top four candidates, so we gave you Janis, Sga, Jokic,

800
00:37:35,360 --> 00:37:40,560
Speaker 3: and Tatum, and Jokic still sort of runs away with

801
00:37:40,600 --> 00:37:44,319
Speaker 3: the vote fifty two percent, Shay second there with almost

802
00:37:44,360 --> 00:37:48,399
Speaker 3: twenty percent, and then Yannis and Tatum. Surprise it all

803
00:37:48,480 --> 00:37:51,560
Speaker 3: from these results, TK, you know, especially when you consider

804
00:37:51,640 --> 00:37:54,719
Speaker 3: Yokic missing a little bit of time there for personal reason.

805
00:37:54,800 --> 00:37:55,760
Speaker 4: That's the only surprise.

806
00:37:56,160 --> 00:37:58,239
Speaker 6: Because Jokic has been the best player in the league.

807
00:37:58,239 --> 00:38:00,439
Speaker 6: The Nuggets have not been a great team. They don't

808
00:38:00,480 --> 00:38:03,319
Speaker 6: really have much of an identity. I don't feel like

809
00:38:03,440 --> 00:38:05,640
Speaker 6: right now except for we've got the best player in

810
00:38:05,680 --> 00:38:07,040
Speaker 6: the league, Nikola Jokic.

811
00:38:07,120 --> 00:38:10,560
Speaker 4: However, his name is in italics on the Basketball Reference.

812
00:38:10,480 --> 00:38:13,920
Speaker 6: MVP tracker, which means he's not currently on pace to

813
00:38:13,960 --> 00:38:16,480
Speaker 6: play sixty five games. So my take is kind of

814
00:38:16,480 --> 00:38:18,360
Speaker 6: the same as it was when we did this for

815
00:38:18,600 --> 00:38:19,120
Speaker 6: one month.

816
00:38:19,160 --> 00:38:20,760
Speaker 4: Then he's the MVP.

817
00:38:21,280 --> 00:38:23,680
Speaker 6: As long as he gets to sixty five games at

818
00:38:23,680 --> 00:38:24,600
Speaker 6: the end of the season, he.

819
00:38:24,719 --> 00:38:25,480
Speaker 4: Should win it.

820
00:38:25,760 --> 00:38:27,520
Speaker 6: But he's not winning it for me right now. I'm

821
00:38:27,560 --> 00:38:29,640
Speaker 6: giving this one to Yannis on to Toakumpo. Since the

822
00:38:29,640 --> 00:38:32,840
Speaker 6: Bucks started two to eight, Jannis is putting up thirty

823
00:38:32,840 --> 00:38:35,720
Speaker 6: five points per game on sixty one percent field goal shooting,

824
00:38:35,920 --> 00:38:39,080
Speaker 6: eleven rebounds, eight assists per game, and two point one

825
00:38:39,160 --> 00:38:40,879
Speaker 6: stocks as the Bucks have gone eight in one.

826
00:38:40,920 --> 00:38:42,560
Speaker 4: So I got Yanis right now.

827
00:38:42,600 --> 00:38:45,520
Speaker 6: I think he's the most impactful defensive player of these

828
00:38:45,560 --> 00:38:48,239
Speaker 6: four guys, and he's really bringing it offensively as well,

829
00:38:48,360 --> 00:38:50,759
Speaker 6: leading the league in scoring as the best scorer in

830
00:38:50,760 --> 00:38:51,120
Speaker 6: the league.

831
00:38:51,120 --> 00:38:52,200
Speaker 4: He never misses shots.

832
00:38:53,200 --> 00:38:55,759
Speaker 1: It is great to mention, yes, Koupo as the MVP

833
00:38:55,880 --> 00:38:57,840
Speaker 1: and those numbers and what he's doing defensively. As you

834
00:38:57,840 --> 00:39:01,400
Speaker 1: said there, those are real efforts that he's making to

835
00:39:01,480 --> 00:39:04,560
Speaker 1: be able to recover in what he's doing defensively. So yeah,

836
00:39:04,640 --> 00:39:07,399
Speaker 1: right here, right now, because I'm living in the moment.

837
00:39:07,400 --> 00:39:10,520
Speaker 1: I also had the honest but they're gonna have to

838
00:39:10,520 --> 00:39:13,439
Speaker 1: climb way higher in the Eastern Conference standings for him

839
00:39:13,440 --> 00:39:16,600
Speaker 1: to actually win it because they're a year five hundred team,

840
00:39:16,800 --> 00:39:21,000
Speaker 1: So it's gonna be tough. That being said, I think

841
00:39:21,000 --> 00:39:24,160
Speaker 1: it might come down to him or Jokic. They have

842
00:39:24,239 --> 00:39:26,560
Speaker 1: to That's a lot of pressure though on Jokic now

843
00:39:26,560 --> 00:39:27,839
Speaker 1: because they have to win games too.

844
00:39:27,880 --> 00:39:29,439
Speaker 5: I mean they're close to the ninth.

845
00:39:29,640 --> 00:39:33,839
Speaker 1: Yeah, so that's a struggle for them, and there's no

846
00:39:33,840 --> 00:39:36,600
Speaker 1: guarantees that they're gonna win without Aaron Gordon there to

847
00:39:36,640 --> 00:39:40,200
Speaker 1: help him out. So that's tough. That's tough for him, Tatum.

848
00:39:40,760 --> 00:39:43,120
Speaker 1: I mean, he's it could be the year. It could

849
00:39:43,120 --> 00:39:45,160
Speaker 1: be the year he gets higher than fourth. That's the

850
00:39:45,239 --> 00:39:47,960
Speaker 1: highest he's ever been voted. That could happen here. It

851
00:39:48,000 --> 00:39:50,520
Speaker 1: could be the year he's third in voting. But they're

852
00:39:50,520 --> 00:39:52,319
Speaker 1: gonna have to get the one seed back. I think

853
00:39:52,320 --> 00:39:54,360
Speaker 1: for him to have any shot, and I mean the

854
00:39:54,360 --> 00:39:57,000
Speaker 1: one seed back from the Calves. But this is this

855
00:39:57,040 --> 00:40:01,719
Speaker 1: is a good race in that Shay and potentially they're

856
00:40:01,760 --> 00:40:03,160
Speaker 1: going to be part of this. I mean, Shay, I

857
00:40:03,200 --> 00:40:04,960
Speaker 1: think can make a better case if they start to

858
00:40:04,960 --> 00:40:07,560
Speaker 1: win without ched Holmgrin there win some more games, that

859
00:40:07,920 --> 00:40:10,479
Speaker 1: makes it even more legitimate. This is a real race.

860
00:40:10,640 --> 00:40:13,479
Speaker 3: Yeah, to me, this was a pole where no matter

861
00:40:13,520 --> 00:40:17,319
Speaker 3: how you voted, good, good, vote, Like, so it's fair

862
00:40:17,520 --> 00:40:19,360
Speaker 3: like you can make a case for all four of

863
00:40:19,360 --> 00:40:22,160
Speaker 3: those guys we're talking right now, and like, how can

864
00:40:22,200 --> 00:40:25,040
Speaker 3: you say, like Shay hasn't played in an MVP level again,

865
00:40:25,160 --> 00:40:27,440
Speaker 3: or Tatum hasn't done the same or what Giannis has

866
00:40:27,480 --> 00:40:30,600
Speaker 3: done recently. And then Jokic of course still the front runner. Yeah,

867
00:40:30,640 --> 00:40:34,160
Speaker 3: maybe dropped a bit in some eyes because of missing

868
00:40:34,200 --> 00:40:37,120
Speaker 3: games and then struggling. We do have to bring that

869
00:40:37,239 --> 00:40:39,600
Speaker 3: up in terms of like finishing off some of these games.

870
00:40:39,640 --> 00:40:42,200
Speaker 3: But I mean he's still he's still Jokic. He's still

871
00:40:42,200 --> 00:40:44,080
Speaker 3: the best player in the world when he's out there.

872
00:40:44,120 --> 00:40:46,480
Speaker 3: So yeah, I guess more. I was like I thought

873
00:40:46,480 --> 00:40:49,160
Speaker 3: i'd get more pushback, like how did you not include

874
00:40:50,080 --> 00:40:52,080
Speaker 3: so and so who's that? Who's that fill in the

875
00:40:52,080 --> 00:40:54,359
Speaker 3: blank there, Trey? If you had to at least get

876
00:40:54,400 --> 00:40:57,440
Speaker 3: pretend mad that we didn't have this person's name on

877
00:40:57,520 --> 00:41:00,640
Speaker 3: the MVP at a quarter market, who.

878
00:41:00,480 --> 00:41:03,279
Speaker 4: Would I put in there that's not in there? Right now?

879
00:41:03,440 --> 00:41:06,520
Speaker 3: Let's say we took out Jokic because he's not technically

880
00:41:06,520 --> 00:41:08,480
Speaker 3: on pace to play sixty five games like this. Okay,

881
00:41:08,640 --> 00:41:10,480
Speaker 3: so let's just take him out just for the sake

882
00:41:10,520 --> 00:41:12,760
Speaker 3: of argument. Who would get that fourth spot?

883
00:41:12,800 --> 00:41:13,560
Speaker 4: Donovan Mitchell?

884
00:41:13,760 --> 00:41:17,320
Speaker 3: Okay, it's fair, great season, best team in the league,

885
00:41:17,680 --> 00:41:20,920
Speaker 3: four takeover, yep. Who would you go?

886
00:41:22,520 --> 00:41:25,319
Speaker 1: Um? Just Luca to start some fights. I know he

887
00:41:25,360 --> 00:41:29,400
Speaker 1: hasn't been incredible. I mean, he's been freaking incredible, but

888
00:41:29,400 --> 00:41:33,319
Speaker 1: he hasn't been himself. But I do think that all

889
00:41:33,360 --> 00:41:36,160
Speaker 1: the teams in the Western Conference kind of get a

890
00:41:36,160 --> 00:41:41,040
Speaker 1: little bit of love just because all those teams are

891
00:41:41,080 --> 00:41:44,040
Speaker 1: above five hundred. I mean, I know that the Denver

892
00:41:44,160 --> 00:41:47,520
Speaker 1: Nuggets are sitting only two games above five hundred and

893
00:41:47,640 --> 00:41:50,360
Speaker 1: or ninth, But I think it helps all of those guys,

894
00:41:50,600 --> 00:41:53,680
Speaker 1: including Luca, because they're all just so damn good.

895
00:41:54,000 --> 00:41:55,480
Speaker 5: I mean, they're all really good.

896
00:41:55,520 --> 00:41:58,040
Speaker 1: So I don't think it really I think that's what

897
00:41:58,120 --> 00:42:01,560
Speaker 1: will push one of these guys, you know a little

898
00:42:01,600 --> 00:42:03,920
Speaker 1: bit more, even if they finished seventh, eighth, ninth.

899
00:42:03,960 --> 00:42:04,800
Speaker 5: I don't think it really.

900
00:42:04,719 --> 00:42:07,840
Speaker 1: Matters as much as it usually does in terms of standings.

901
00:42:07,920 --> 00:42:10,440
Speaker 6: I cannot see a team or a player on a

902
00:42:10,440 --> 00:42:11,399
Speaker 6: team that finishes in.

903
00:42:11,320 --> 00:42:13,960
Speaker 4: The play in tournament with MVP. That would be ridiculous.

904
00:42:14,120 --> 00:42:15,440
Speaker 5: No, probably not.

905
00:42:16,440 --> 00:42:18,879
Speaker 3: Yeah, I think I would make a case right now

906
00:42:18,920 --> 00:42:24,080
Speaker 3: for Karl Anthony Towns. It's been amazing. It's like it's

907
00:42:24,080 --> 00:42:27,040
Speaker 3: gone overlooked what he's doing and how well he's slotted

908
00:42:27,080 --> 00:42:31,040
Speaker 3: in there. It's averaging twenty five and thirteen right now

909
00:42:31,080 --> 00:42:33,000
Speaker 3: for the Knicks, and you know, they're twelve and eight,

910
00:42:33,040 --> 00:42:36,279
Speaker 3: Like I think, I think if that record's fourteen and

911
00:42:36,360 --> 00:42:40,080
Speaker 3: six or you know, you know, fifteen and five, like

912
00:42:40,160 --> 00:42:42,399
Speaker 3: a couple more wins there, I think it's like, ooh, yeah,

913
00:42:42,440 --> 00:42:45,760
Speaker 3: he's probably on this MV people, but just being twelve

914
00:42:45,800 --> 00:42:48,080
Speaker 3: and eight despite being a better record than you're honest,

915
00:42:48,120 --> 00:42:51,800
Speaker 3: So I got to point that out. But he's been awesome, catman,

916
00:42:51,920 --> 00:42:53,080
Speaker 3: do he still got it?

917
00:42:53,200 --> 00:42:55,600
Speaker 1: You know what's awesome is that we don't know why

918
00:42:55,680 --> 00:43:00,440
Speaker 1: Jokic was away for personal reasons and there was rumors

919
00:43:00,440 --> 00:43:03,479
Speaker 1: he was having a second child, right, but nobody knows.

920
00:43:03,680 --> 00:43:07,480
Speaker 1: And I think Nikola jokicch is just awesome at keeping

921
00:43:07,480 --> 00:43:08,120
Speaker 1: things private.

922
00:43:08,520 --> 00:43:09,479
Speaker 5: He's just good at it.

923
00:43:09,640 --> 00:43:11,840
Speaker 3: Tending to the horses, who knows.

924
00:43:11,719 --> 00:43:14,359
Speaker 1: He's just good at He's just good at keeping people

925
00:43:14,440 --> 00:43:18,279
Speaker 1: out of his business. And I think it's interesting that

926
00:43:18,360 --> 00:43:21,000
Speaker 1: this team, yeah, has not been getting a lot of

927
00:43:21,960 --> 00:43:24,560
Speaker 1: pub recently because he's been gone, so they just stink.

928
00:43:25,280 --> 00:43:28,840
Speaker 1: But I imagine he's just gonna help him win, you know.

929
00:43:28,880 --> 00:43:32,280
Speaker 1: I imagine he's gonna play way more than sixty five games.

930
00:43:32,440 --> 00:43:34,600
Speaker 6: No, probably, Yeah, he's just missed a fun at the

931
00:43:34,600 --> 00:43:35,960
Speaker 6: start of the season. He's missed the quarter of the

932
00:43:35,960 --> 00:43:39,719
Speaker 6: team's games, right, miss three, Right, he's missed like five.

933
00:43:39,760 --> 00:43:42,279
Speaker 3: I think I think Lucas in the same boat here

934
00:43:42,360 --> 00:43:45,800
Speaker 3: right now, having missed some games, Like technically, is maybe

935
00:43:45,840 --> 00:43:47,440
Speaker 3: like sub pace.

936
00:43:47,280 --> 00:43:51,719
Speaker 4: For Luca six games recently, Like you said.

937
00:43:51,480 --> 00:43:54,040
Speaker 3: They're probably gonna play it, yeah, all right, next pole here,

938
00:43:54,360 --> 00:43:59,319
Speaker 3: besides MVP, what's the most interesting NBA award race? The

939
00:43:59,360 --> 00:44:03,440
Speaker 3: four options Defensive Player of the Year, most Improved Rookie

940
00:44:03,440 --> 00:44:05,399
Speaker 3: of the Year, or sixth man. And I will say

941
00:44:05,440 --> 00:44:08,000
Speaker 3: this was our really one of our closest votes here.

942
00:44:08,760 --> 00:44:11,239
Speaker 3: Rookie of the Year takes it with about thirty one

943
00:44:11,280 --> 00:44:13,120
Speaker 3: percent of the vote, But then we're going to tie

944
00:44:13,120 --> 00:44:15,200
Speaker 3: with Defensive Player of the Year and Most Improved twenty

945
00:44:15,239 --> 00:44:18,640
Speaker 3: seven point three percent, and then six man coming in

946
00:44:18,680 --> 00:44:21,920
Speaker 3: their sub fifteen percent. You think this is right? TK,

947
00:44:22,080 --> 00:44:24,360
Speaker 3: What is the most interesting NBA A word race to you?

948
00:44:24,440 --> 00:44:25,120
Speaker 3: Besides MVP?

949
00:44:25,320 --> 00:44:26,439
Speaker 4: I voted Rookie of the Year.

950
00:44:26,520 --> 00:44:29,520
Speaker 6: Okay, we've had four winners so far, Zach ed Zach Rishische,

951
00:44:30,000 --> 00:44:33,759
Speaker 6: Dalton Connect and current winner Jared McCain, who had seven

952
00:44:33,800 --> 00:44:36,479
Speaker 6: straight twenty point games, yelled, I'm the Rookie of the Year,

953
00:44:36,880 --> 00:44:38,640
Speaker 6: but I don't think he's locked in at all right now,

954
00:44:38,640 --> 00:44:40,400
Speaker 6: he's coming off the bench now or at least in

955
00:44:40,440 --> 00:44:42,759
Speaker 6: the last game that the Sixers played. Who knows if

956
00:44:42,760 --> 00:44:45,200
Speaker 6: he and stays on the bench, or if they decide

957
00:44:45,239 --> 00:44:48,440
Speaker 6: to try the Maxie McCain backcourt. Kind Of small for defending,

958
00:44:48,520 --> 00:44:51,400
Speaker 6: but it seems like there's an opportunity for somebody to

959
00:44:51,680 --> 00:44:54,000
Speaker 6: at least get in the mix finish in a top

960
00:44:54,040 --> 00:44:56,520
Speaker 6: five vote with the rest of the Rookie of the

961
00:44:56,560 --> 00:44:59,840
Speaker 6: Year candidates. But I've been impressed with this rookie class,

962
00:45:00,080 --> 00:45:01,759
Speaker 6: a lot of hype coming in, and I think we've

963
00:45:01,800 --> 00:45:04,040
Speaker 6: seen a lot of flashes from guys in the top

964
00:45:04,080 --> 00:45:06,840
Speaker 6: ten even further down, like Jared McCain. I love watching

965
00:45:06,880 --> 00:45:09,320
Speaker 6: this guy play. I love watching his tiktoks. I was

966
00:45:09,360 --> 00:45:11,840
Speaker 6: just going through TikTok. That's amazing that this guy's playing

967
00:45:11,880 --> 00:45:14,120
Speaker 6: in the NBA. And then we'll just go and record

968
00:45:14,160 --> 00:45:16,719
Speaker 6: a video about walking through the snow in Detroit.

969
00:45:17,080 --> 00:45:17,879
Speaker 4: I saw that one.

970
00:45:18,000 --> 00:45:18,960
Speaker 3: Yeah, I did see though one.

971
00:45:18,960 --> 00:45:22,200
Speaker 4: That's correct, man, that's correct. I think that's amazing.

972
00:45:22,719 --> 00:45:24,520
Speaker 6: He's a breath of fresh air, the best thing that's

973
00:45:24,520 --> 00:45:26,799
Speaker 6: happening to the seventy six ers.

974
00:45:26,800 --> 00:45:27,879
Speaker 1: But I don't think.

975
00:45:29,680 --> 00:45:30,000
Speaker 4: I don't know.

976
00:45:30,040 --> 00:45:31,920
Speaker 6: I was watching some great stuff on TikTok last night,

977
00:45:31,960 --> 00:45:34,280
Speaker 6: some weird, some weird pants stuff.

978
00:45:35,000 --> 00:45:37,440
Speaker 4: Wisdom K is the name of this model that I

979
00:45:37,480 --> 00:45:38,040
Speaker 4: like following.

980
00:45:38,719 --> 00:45:39,520
Speaker 3: That's all pants.

981
00:45:40,040 --> 00:45:43,720
Speaker 4: Well, he's got a great collection of pants. I watched

982
00:45:43,719 --> 00:45:44,520
Speaker 4: one last night.

983
00:45:45,239 --> 00:45:47,520
Speaker 6: You know, some people are saying you can't wear Converse

984
00:45:47,920 --> 00:45:49,680
Speaker 6: All Stars anymore, and he said, are you serious? You

985
00:45:49,680 --> 00:45:51,880
Speaker 6: can't wear Converse All Stars And look at my feet,

986
00:45:51,920 --> 00:45:52,680
Speaker 6: my friends.

987
00:45:52,400 --> 00:45:52,840
Speaker 1: Oh wow.

988
00:45:52,920 --> 00:45:54,400
Speaker 3: I had to pull out a pair of Who.

989
00:45:54,360 --> 00:45:56,920
Speaker 6: All Stars for the first time this season nearly broke

990
00:45:56,960 --> 00:46:00,520
Speaker 6: the leg win. But there's good stuff happening on tiktokccasionally,

991
00:46:00,600 --> 00:46:03,440
Speaker 6: including Jared McCain and your current Rookie of the Year.

992
00:46:03,440 --> 00:46:05,160
Speaker 6: But I do think somebody could still take it off

993
00:46:05,160 --> 00:46:05,720
Speaker 6: of him.

994
00:46:06,600 --> 00:46:08,879
Speaker 1: I agree with that, and I haven't been following Jared

995
00:46:08,960 --> 00:46:11,680
Speaker 1: McCain on TikTok. I thought all those TikTok videos were

996
00:46:11,680 --> 00:46:15,120
Speaker 1: old that come out of his on other social media

997
00:46:15,160 --> 00:46:18,200
Speaker 1: platforms where he's dancing. I thought he was just a

998
00:46:18,280 --> 00:46:21,680
Speaker 1: dancing TikTok man. But apparently he updates people on the weather.

999
00:46:21,719 --> 00:46:26,680
Speaker 1: He's a meteorologist here. It's snowing in Detroit. Anyways, there's

1000
00:46:26,719 --> 00:46:28,840
Speaker 1: definitely good stuff on TikTok. You just got to know

1001
00:46:28,920 --> 00:46:32,880
Speaker 1: where to look. Somebody's got a publish put some TikTok

1002
00:46:32,960 --> 00:46:35,000
Speaker 1: videos out about the Rookie of the Year race because

1003
00:46:35,000 --> 00:46:37,360
Speaker 1: it's damn good. I mean, I think I've been in

1004
00:46:37,840 --> 00:46:40,120
Speaker 1: you know, at the beginning of the season, like everybody

1005
00:46:40,440 --> 00:46:42,479
Speaker 1: who's going to be rookie year, there's been a lot

1006
00:46:42,520 --> 00:46:46,200
Speaker 1: of just yeah, as you said, not a lot of hype.

1007
00:46:46,040 --> 00:46:49,319
Speaker 3: It was coming into this, which is rare because it's

1008
00:46:49,360 --> 00:46:51,440
Speaker 3: usually like, well, it'll be one of the top three picks.

1009
00:46:51,480 --> 00:46:54,440
Speaker 3: But that wasn't the case with Risahe and Saw and

1010
00:46:54,440 --> 00:46:55,000
Speaker 3: stuff like that.

1011
00:46:55,080 --> 00:46:57,480
Speaker 1: Yeah, we did not know a lot about Zachary Resache

1012
00:46:57,640 --> 00:47:02,400
Speaker 1: here in North America following him. So I actually mentioned

1013
00:47:02,719 --> 00:47:05,680
Speaker 1: Frank Mason for Milwaukee Buck Frank Mason, who is now

1014
00:47:05,680 --> 00:47:08,640
Speaker 1: playing in Europe, and what he tweeted. He said, Zachary

1015
00:47:08,760 --> 00:47:11,000
Speaker 1: Resache is the number one pick. He doesn't deserve it.

1016
00:47:11,280 --> 00:47:16,480
Speaker 1: I regret. I regret even mentioning that tweet, because Resache

1017
00:47:16,920 --> 00:47:17,319
Speaker 1: worth it.

1018
00:47:17,360 --> 00:47:18,040
Speaker 5: He's a kid.

1019
00:47:18,840 --> 00:47:21,320
Speaker 1: He seems to have it all together for a nineteen

1020
00:47:21,400 --> 00:47:24,360
Speaker 1: year old to be doing as we talked about, willing

1021
00:47:24,400 --> 00:47:27,160
Speaker 1: to do the little things, put the ball on the floor,

1022
00:47:27,160 --> 00:47:30,640
Speaker 1: play for forty eight minutes, not be the star on

1023
00:47:30,680 --> 00:47:33,960
Speaker 1: his team whatsoever. Already jumped into the starting lineup pretty

1024
00:47:34,000 --> 00:47:37,479
Speaker 1: early in his career. But yeah, this race is pretty fun.

1025
00:47:38,400 --> 00:47:40,600
Speaker 1: It's just it's wide open. I think most improved is

1026
00:47:40,640 --> 00:47:44,360
Speaker 1: also very very interesting because I think it'll go to

1027
00:47:44,680 --> 00:47:47,160
Speaker 1: somebody the voters will believe has improved the most and

1028
00:47:47,200 --> 00:47:49,560
Speaker 1: it'll be less about the stats. I think it'll it'll

1029
00:47:49,560 --> 00:47:51,000
Speaker 1: be that type of winner.

1030
00:47:51,280 --> 00:47:51,480
Speaker 5: I know.

1031
00:47:51,520 --> 00:47:54,960
Speaker 1: Franz Wagner has jumped in into the leader in terms

1032
00:47:55,000 --> 00:47:58,239
Speaker 1: of odds, But there's a bunch of Jalen's, like a

1033
00:47:58,360 --> 00:48:01,879
Speaker 1: Jalen Williams of Jalen Johnson. There's a dice in Daniels

1034
00:48:01,960 --> 00:48:05,080
Speaker 1: push a little bit for most approved. So it's fun.

1035
00:48:05,200 --> 00:48:06,600
Speaker 1: I think that one's a fun one too.

1036
00:48:06,760 --> 00:48:09,879
Speaker 3: It's gonna be Franz Wagner or Jalen Williams winning Most

1037
00:48:09,920 --> 00:48:14,120
Speaker 3: Improved unless barring injury. I mean, Jallen Johnson's been a great,

1038
00:48:14,440 --> 00:48:16,080
Speaker 3: great and we just talked about him how much he's

1039
00:48:16,120 --> 00:48:18,200
Speaker 3: impressed me with the twenty ten and five and stuff

1040
00:48:18,200 --> 00:48:20,080
Speaker 3: like that. But I don't think he's gonna be flirting

1041
00:48:20,080 --> 00:48:21,719
Speaker 3: with an All Star selection, And it feels like it's

1042
00:48:21,719 --> 00:48:24,040
Speaker 3: just part of the equation. Now, you gotta make the jump,

1043
00:48:24,160 --> 00:48:27,640
Speaker 3: make an All Star team, maybe flirting around the outskirts

1044
00:48:27,640 --> 00:48:31,240
Speaker 3: of an All NBA selection, and obviously, of course improve

1045
00:48:31,280 --> 00:48:33,120
Speaker 3: as a player. And those two guys Franz and j

1046
00:48:33,280 --> 00:48:36,239
Speaker 3: dubb On Okay, see they're one to two right now

1047
00:48:36,280 --> 00:48:37,160
Speaker 3: in terms of odds.

1048
00:48:37,360 --> 00:48:39,359
Speaker 1: As for Rookie the Year, those guys have both been

1049
00:48:39,520 --> 00:48:42,680
Speaker 1: great since their teammates they got injured. Yeah, Ban Caro

1050
00:48:43,040 --> 00:48:44,080
Speaker 1: and chat Holgard so.

1051
00:48:45,160 --> 00:48:47,839
Speaker 3: That to me is like even more of a tick

1052
00:48:48,040 --> 00:48:51,080
Speaker 3: for your most improved. It's like, hey, that's always so

1053
00:48:51,239 --> 00:48:53,319
Speaker 3: it's not easy to do. Like sometimes we're like, oh,

1054
00:48:53,360 --> 00:48:55,359
Speaker 3: that team's screw they lose their star player. They're all

1055
00:48:55,400 --> 00:48:58,240
Speaker 3: NBA guy and it's like, whoa, wow, that guy actually

1056
00:48:58,320 --> 00:49:00,759
Speaker 3: can slot into that role at least for a month

1057
00:49:00,840 --> 00:49:03,399
Speaker 3: or two or you know, that's he's stilling to level

1058
00:49:03,480 --> 00:49:05,120
Speaker 3: up in the NBA. As for Rookie of the Year,

1059
00:49:05,200 --> 00:49:07,319
Speaker 3: Jared McCain is your favorite right now. He was off

1060
00:49:07,320 --> 00:49:09,440
Speaker 3: the board when we started this whole thing in the preseason.

1061
00:49:09,600 --> 00:49:14,120
Speaker 3: He's minus one sixty connect second castle third at plus

1062
00:49:14,160 --> 00:49:17,080
Speaker 3: seven hundred. Yeah, he went pretty good. He's definitely sort

1063
00:49:17,080 --> 00:49:18,880
Speaker 3: of improved as the season went on. And then we

1064
00:49:18,920 --> 00:49:21,040
Speaker 3: said Peyton Pritchard when we were talking about them blowing

1065
00:49:21,040 --> 00:49:24,000
Speaker 3: out the heat, he's your favorite at minus two fifty.

1066
00:49:24,080 --> 00:49:27,319
Speaker 3: For six Man of the Year. Amen Thompson though has

1067
00:49:27,360 --> 00:49:30,319
Speaker 3: sort of jumped up in the rankings. He went from

1068
00:49:30,360 --> 00:49:33,799
Speaker 3: like fourteenth odds to now second best odds. He's nine

1069
00:49:33,840 --> 00:49:36,560
Speaker 3: to one on bet MGM. You've had like Buddy Healed

1070
00:49:36,600 --> 00:49:39,520
Speaker 3: and nas Reeds slipping a little bit, but DeAndre Hunter

1071
00:49:39,640 --> 00:49:42,760
Speaker 3: is on their tests now at plus twenty five hundred.

1072
00:49:43,080 --> 00:49:46,440
Speaker 3: Well he had to because he wasn't a six man, right,

1073
00:49:46,840 --> 00:49:50,440
Speaker 3: So he's in the mix now and then Defensive Player

1074
00:49:50,440 --> 00:49:53,239
Speaker 3: of the Year. I was actually surprised that got more

1075
00:49:53,360 --> 00:49:57,239
Speaker 3: votes in our poll than sixth man as interesting. I

1076
00:49:57,280 --> 00:50:00,640
Speaker 3: don't know. It just feels it's Wemby's really to lose.

1077
00:50:02,040 --> 00:50:04,160
Speaker 3: But I don't I could one of these crazy Rockets

1078
00:50:04,160 --> 00:50:06,080
Speaker 3: guys get in the mix. I don't know, like Atari

1079
00:50:06,200 --> 00:50:08,880
Speaker 3: Easton or something like that. It's unlikely to me. But

1080
00:50:09,120 --> 00:50:12,640
Speaker 3: any thoughts on dpoy, Nope, they're TK. No you hate defense,

1081
00:50:12,800 --> 00:50:14,719
Speaker 3: Well it's gonna be Wendy you think it will just

1082
00:50:14,719 --> 00:50:15,080
Speaker 3: no matter.

1083
00:50:15,120 --> 00:50:17,480
Speaker 4: I mean they're decent enough on defense. They were top ten.

1084
00:50:17,520 --> 00:50:21,560
Speaker 6: They're down to thirteenth now, but they'll probably stay between I.

1085
00:50:21,560 --> 00:50:23,880
Speaker 4: Don't know, fifteen and eight for the season or something

1086
00:50:23,960 --> 00:50:24,239
Speaker 4: like that.

1087
00:50:24,320 --> 00:50:26,800
Speaker 6: And he's leading the league in blocks easily three and

1088
00:50:26,840 --> 00:50:27,520
Speaker 6: a half per game.

1089
00:50:27,520 --> 00:50:30,239
Speaker 4: He's also doing getting a steal and a half per game.

1090
00:50:30,360 --> 00:50:33,279
Speaker 6: Like the dude's a game record defensively and the scariest

1091
00:50:33,280 --> 00:50:34,279
Speaker 6: guy on the inside.

1092
00:50:34,600 --> 00:50:38,000
Speaker 1: Yeah, my question for this award is does it become

1093
00:50:38,120 --> 00:50:40,879
Speaker 1: less and less of a top team award and more

1094
00:50:40,880 --> 00:50:43,480
Speaker 1: of a player award because you know it's always gone

1095
00:50:43,560 --> 00:50:46,520
Speaker 1: to a at the very least top five defense. So

1096
00:50:46,640 --> 00:50:48,319
Speaker 1: if it is a middle of the pack defense like

1097
00:50:48,360 --> 00:50:52,759
Speaker 1: the Spurs, the defense going changed, I mean that really

1098
00:50:52,760 --> 00:50:55,680
Speaker 1: will have changed and into who they give it to.

1099
00:50:55,800 --> 00:50:57,399
Speaker 5: And yeah, I am, you.

1100
00:50:57,360 --> 00:51:00,880
Speaker 1: Know, interested into if it gets pushed out to more

1101
00:51:00,920 --> 00:51:03,160
Speaker 1: of a perimeter player rather than a big player at

1102
00:51:03,160 --> 00:51:05,640
Speaker 1: some point, I know we see him from time to time,

1103
00:51:05,680 --> 00:51:09,720
Speaker 1: a Marcus Smart has won it. But Kawhi a monster?

1104
00:51:09,960 --> 00:51:11,960
Speaker 5: Where are you? Kawhi? Where are you?

1105
00:51:12,040 --> 00:51:12,200
Speaker 4: Man?

1106
00:51:12,239 --> 00:51:12,879
Speaker 5: Come on back?

1107
00:51:13,200 --> 00:51:17,680
Speaker 3: Final one? In our check the polls segment, we put

1108
00:51:17,719 --> 00:51:20,800
Speaker 3: it like such, forget the mini tournament idea, that's Silver's

1109
00:51:20,840 --> 00:51:24,120
Speaker 3: pitching here at All Star weekend. What's the best idea

1110
00:51:24,360 --> 00:51:27,239
Speaker 3: to fix the NBA All Star Game? To save it?

1111
00:51:27,719 --> 00:51:32,640
Speaker 3: And we gave you four options, raise incentives team USA

1112
00:51:32,760 --> 00:51:38,640
Speaker 3: versus the World finals, home court advantage to the winning conference,

1113
00:51:39,719 --> 00:51:42,600
Speaker 3: taking a page out of the old MLB back in

1114
00:51:42,640 --> 00:51:46,640
Speaker 3: the day, or just straight up cancel it and winning

1115
00:51:46,680 --> 00:51:49,800
Speaker 3: the vote thirty four point seven percent, it is Team

1116
00:51:49,880 --> 00:51:53,799
Speaker 3: USA versus the world. How do you feel about that trade?

1117
00:51:53,840 --> 00:51:55,920
Speaker 3: Did you vote with the people on this one or

1118
00:51:55,920 --> 00:51:56,920
Speaker 3: did you go another direction.

1119
00:51:57,000 --> 00:51:58,520
Speaker 6: I did not vote with the people. I voted the

1120
00:51:58,560 --> 00:52:00,360
Speaker 6: complete opposite of the people.

1121
00:52:00,400 --> 00:52:03,200
Speaker 4: Here. Money money, money, money, any money.

1122
00:52:03,280 --> 00:52:05,200
Speaker 6: That's the only thing that's going to change it. And

1123
00:52:05,239 --> 00:52:07,080
Speaker 6: I'm surprised that it got the fewest votes. I think

1124
00:52:07,120 --> 00:52:10,600
Speaker 6: people are being a little optimistic about this one. The

1125
00:52:10,640 --> 00:52:12,799
Speaker 6: only reason the n season Tournament is working in that

1126
00:52:12,840 --> 00:52:14,799
Speaker 6: people are caring about winning it is that they get

1127
00:52:14,840 --> 00:52:17,440
Speaker 6: five hundred thousand dollars at the end. You heard Jalen

1128
00:52:17,440 --> 00:52:19,319
Speaker 6: Brunson say it, you heard Josh Hart say it, you

1129
00:52:19,360 --> 00:52:21,560
Speaker 6: heard Lebron say it last year, and now that he's

1130
00:52:21,560 --> 00:52:23,799
Speaker 6: out of his like, the tournament sucks because he knows

1131
00:52:23,800 --> 00:52:26,040
Speaker 6: he ain't gonna win any money, and nothing else makes

1132
00:52:26,040 --> 00:52:28,160
Speaker 6: sense to me. Pay him all five hundred thousand dollars.

1133
00:52:28,320 --> 00:52:30,800
Speaker 6: We get a sponsor on the horn for six million dollars,

1134
00:52:30,840 --> 00:52:34,600
Speaker 6: you might have a decent game. Everything else is honestly

1135
00:52:34,640 --> 00:52:36,359
Speaker 6: kind of silly to me. Twenty six percent of people

1136
00:52:36,400 --> 00:52:38,719
Speaker 6: would rather not see an All Star game than pay

1137
00:52:38,719 --> 00:52:42,319
Speaker 6: these guys more money to play a mercenary exhibition game.

1138
00:52:44,040 --> 00:52:44,279
Speaker 5: I mean.

1139
00:52:44,360 --> 00:52:47,160
Speaker 3: The difference with the in season tournament though, and the

1140
00:52:47,200 --> 00:52:49,880
Speaker 3: payday is like it is still part of the regular

1141
00:52:49,960 --> 00:52:52,840
Speaker 3: season outside of the very last game in terms of

1142
00:52:52,920 --> 00:52:55,400
Speaker 3: counting to your win lost column, where of course, an

1143
00:52:55,440 --> 00:52:58,240
Speaker 3: All Star game doesn't at all a bit of a difference.

1144
00:52:58,280 --> 00:52:59,799
Speaker 3: I guess you could say it feels like a lot

1145
00:52:59,800 --> 00:53:01,879
Speaker 3: of the times they are trying to win these huge

1146
00:53:01,880 --> 00:53:05,520
Speaker 3: bonuses in the NBA Cup for the guys that don't

1147
00:53:05,520 --> 00:53:08,440
Speaker 3: make your forty fifty sixty million dollars a year like

1148
00:53:08,480 --> 00:53:10,560
Speaker 3: most of the All Stars do. So there's some differences,

1149
00:53:10,600 --> 00:53:12,040
Speaker 3: but that's not what Josh Hart said.

1150
00:53:12,440 --> 00:53:13,920
Speaker 6: Hey, look he says, I want to buy a new

1151
00:53:13,960 --> 00:53:16,680
Speaker 6: ap Okay, there's a beautiful new watch out there, and

1152
00:53:16,719 --> 00:53:18,440
Speaker 6: I need five hundred K to blow on it.

1153
00:53:20,080 --> 00:53:23,360
Speaker 3: Okay, well, then the Knick's got to beat the Magic

1154
00:53:23,400 --> 00:53:24,920
Speaker 3: tonight to hopefully help that.

1155
00:53:24,960 --> 00:53:28,719
Speaker 1: But what's going on with his salary? Doesn't have the

1156
00:53:28,760 --> 00:53:30,560
Speaker 1: five hundred k? I would imagine that.

1157
00:53:31,160 --> 00:53:33,359
Speaker 3: He does have the five hundred k. Guy, or if

1158
00:53:33,360 --> 00:53:34,480
Speaker 3: they have the money.

1159
00:53:34,280 --> 00:53:35,920
Speaker 4: You don't have to worry about it. If you get it,

1160
00:53:35,960 --> 00:53:38,359
Speaker 4: you can just go buy it at night. Yes, yes, yeah,

1161
00:53:38,480 --> 00:53:39,120
Speaker 4: buy it tonight.

1162
00:53:39,600 --> 00:53:39,839
Speaker 5: Listen.

1163
00:53:39,920 --> 00:53:42,600
Speaker 1: Mike and Ikes is paying Josh Hart enough. I don't

1164
00:53:42,640 --> 00:53:44,520
Speaker 1: know how much they're paying him, but I imagine they're

1165
00:53:44,520 --> 00:53:46,360
Speaker 1: paying him a little bit. I mean, he's got a

1166
00:53:46,400 --> 00:53:51,319
Speaker 1: pretty valuable contract. It's a it's a decent contract. Good

1167
00:53:51,400 --> 00:53:53,799
Speaker 1: sign good signing by the next eighteen nineteen mil.

1168
00:53:53,920 --> 00:53:54,319
Speaker 5: That's good.

1169
00:53:54,400 --> 00:53:55,759
Speaker 3: Yeah, you can afford to watch guy.

1170
00:53:56,000 --> 00:53:58,799
Speaker 5: Yeah, I'm not concerned. Yeah.

1171
00:53:59,120 --> 00:54:02,440
Speaker 1: The other thing about the NBA Cup in the and

1172
00:54:02,480 --> 00:54:06,960
Speaker 1: season tournament in general, I mean it incentivizes just playing

1173
00:54:07,040 --> 00:54:09,000
Speaker 1: during the regular season a little bit. And that's why

1174
00:54:09,040 --> 00:54:13,759
Speaker 1: the finals home court advantage. It just diminishes any sort

1175
00:54:13,760 --> 00:54:16,919
Speaker 1: of value for the regular season. Come on, that ain't

1176
00:54:16,920 --> 00:54:20,600
Speaker 1: gonna happen the USA versus World. We saw it, I

1177
00:54:20,640 --> 00:54:24,560
Speaker 1: mean not too long ago on All Star weekend. It

1178
00:54:24,560 --> 00:54:29,920
Speaker 1: didn't really help things. So I doubt it's that we

1179
00:54:30,000 --> 00:54:32,320
Speaker 1: just need a little effort. So just need some effort.

1180
00:54:32,840 --> 00:54:34,799
Speaker 1: And I don't think USA Versus World is doing it.

1181
00:54:34,920 --> 00:54:37,719
Speaker 1: I'm not sure raising the incentives is really going to

1182
00:54:37,800 --> 00:54:40,719
Speaker 1: do it. I mean, yes, if you tell a guy

1183
00:54:41,719 --> 00:54:44,520
Speaker 1: it's five hundred k, I mean they're also playing for

1184
00:54:44,600 --> 00:54:48,920
Speaker 1: their teammates. And in terms sorry in terms of currently

1185
00:54:49,040 --> 00:54:50,880
Speaker 1: the NBA Cup and they're playing for the teammates, Like

1186
00:54:50,960 --> 00:54:53,600
Speaker 1: everybody gets five hundred k as an All Star. It's

1187
00:54:53,600 --> 00:54:56,920
Speaker 1: a little bit different. These guys are all usually thirty

1188
00:54:56,960 --> 00:55:00,400
Speaker 1: forty fifty million dollars per year, so I think it's

1189
00:55:00,440 --> 00:55:03,360
Speaker 1: a little different. But anyway, money matters.

1190
00:55:03,440 --> 00:55:07,239
Speaker 3: Obviously, Yeah, money matters, but I'm with you on that.

1191
00:55:07,280 --> 00:55:11,239
Speaker 3: But take money away from the losing team. That's how

1192
00:55:11,280 --> 00:55:14,120
Speaker 3: we make it competitive. Put some money on the line

1193
00:55:14,239 --> 00:55:17,040
Speaker 3: in the actual game between both sides here, then we've

1194
00:55:17,080 --> 00:55:18,920
Speaker 3: got something. This is never gonna happen, of course, but

1195
00:55:18,960 --> 00:55:20,800
Speaker 3: I also love the incentives we talked about, like a

1196
00:55:20,960 --> 00:55:24,160
Speaker 3: vacation time and stuff like that. What everybody wants in

1197
00:55:24,200 --> 00:55:27,680
Speaker 3: the world, make that mistakes. I knew Tmo savers As

1198
00:55:27,719 --> 00:55:29,200
Speaker 3: the World was going to win this because anytime we

1199
00:55:29,239 --> 00:55:31,520
Speaker 3: talk about the All Star Game and fixes, there are

1200
00:55:31,680 --> 00:55:34,600
Speaker 3: millions of comments about just go Tmo Savers World, Just

1201
00:55:34,600 --> 00:55:37,040
Speaker 3: go Temo saver As the World. It always comes up.

1202
00:55:37,040 --> 00:55:38,960
Speaker 3: So I had a feeling it would get the most votes,

1203
00:55:39,000 --> 00:55:41,840
Speaker 3: but it was maybe a little closer overall. Do you

1204
00:55:42,760 --> 00:55:45,239
Speaker 3: have opinions on the finals home court advantage to the

1205
00:55:45,320 --> 00:55:48,759
Speaker 3: winning conference whereas you know that then conference would get

1206
00:55:48,800 --> 00:55:50,600
Speaker 3: it if they make it all the way to the end.

1207
00:55:51,040 --> 00:55:54,520
Speaker 6: I I think it's silly, you know, Like Tass said,

1208
00:55:54,560 --> 00:55:56,320
Speaker 6: the MLB tried it and they're like, this is stupid.

1209
00:55:56,360 --> 00:55:59,600
Speaker 6: We're not doing it anymore. Like does Victor Wembinyama care

1210
00:55:59,600 --> 00:56:02,239
Speaker 6: about get finals home court advantage when he's just trying

1211
00:56:02,239 --> 00:56:03,040
Speaker 6: to make the playoffs?

1212
00:56:04,040 --> 00:56:04,239
Speaker 4: Right?

1213
00:56:04,280 --> 00:56:07,239
Speaker 6: It just that incentive doesn't make any sense to me.

1214
00:56:07,280 --> 00:56:10,080
Speaker 6: Why would somebody care about who has home?

1215
00:56:10,200 --> 00:56:13,960
Speaker 3: How long did it last? In baseball? They did it

1216
00:56:13,960 --> 00:56:17,560
Speaker 3: a couple of years obviously, and then they were who cares, No,

1217
00:56:17,680 --> 00:56:19,759
Speaker 3: they're not playing harder or anything. Why are we doing this?

1218
00:56:19,880 --> 00:56:22,960
Speaker 3: So there it is. Let's check the polls. Thanks everybody

1219
00:56:23,280 --> 00:56:25,000
Speaker 3: for voting in those. That's a fun segment. We'll have

1220
00:56:25,000 --> 00:56:27,640
Speaker 3: to bring that back sooner rather than later. Okay, tonight's

1221
00:56:27,680 --> 00:56:31,120
Speaker 3: pick them game tasks. Where we going? Man, it's the

1222
00:56:31,120 --> 00:56:33,800
Speaker 3: final night for NBA Cup Action Group play.

1223
00:56:34,200 --> 00:56:37,919
Speaker 1: It's a very nice schedule tonight eleven games skeed. Yes,

1224
00:56:38,080 --> 00:56:41,279
Speaker 1: NBA Cup matters. Just some great teams playing, and it

1225
00:56:41,400 --> 00:56:44,319
Speaker 1: was easy for me to look at. Yeah, there's good ones,

1226
00:56:44,360 --> 00:56:47,160
Speaker 1: but I like the Grizzlies. At the MAVs fourteen and

1227
00:56:47,160 --> 00:56:50,200
Speaker 1: seven versus thirteen and eight, two top seven offenses, two

1228
00:56:50,239 --> 00:56:54,080
Speaker 1: top nine defenses. MAVs learned who they were. He popping

1229
00:56:54,200 --> 00:56:55,120
Speaker 1: Champagne for the NBA.

1230
00:56:55,400 --> 00:56:57,360
Speaker 3: I was trying to get the lid off this whip

1231
00:56:57,400 --> 00:57:00,560
Speaker 3: cream guys, dare I say it found a bit of

1232
00:57:00,560 --> 00:57:03,960
Speaker 3: a groove, right, you're flying. Really, I'm doing well here.

1233
00:57:03,960 --> 00:57:04,920
Speaker 3: Sorry to interrupt your town.

1234
00:57:05,920 --> 00:57:06,920
Speaker 1: I interrupted myself.

1235
00:57:07,560 --> 00:57:08,080
Speaker 5: Champagne.

1236
00:57:08,239 --> 00:57:09,800
Speaker 4: You're past the half light easily.

1237
00:57:09,840 --> 00:57:12,080
Speaker 3: Oh yeah, yeah, we're doing pretty good today. I think

1238
00:57:12,120 --> 00:57:18,760
Speaker 3: maybe taking out the middle is the move yesterday.

1239
00:57:19,000 --> 00:57:19,400
Speaker 5: Anyways.

1240
00:57:19,440 --> 00:57:22,440
Speaker 1: Yeah, the MAVs they played well without Luca there four

1241
00:57:22,480 --> 00:57:24,920
Speaker 1: and one without him, but he's back baby. The Grizzlies

1242
00:57:24,920 --> 00:57:27,800
Speaker 1: have won six in a row. They play fast, They

1243
00:57:27,880 --> 00:57:30,280
Speaker 1: got eight guys to scoreing double digits. It's just a

1244
00:57:30,360 --> 00:57:34,120
Speaker 1: good matchup if we want to get into the NBA

1245
00:57:34,280 --> 00:57:38,439
Speaker 1: Cup part of things. Dallas can clinch a wild card

1246
00:57:38,440 --> 00:57:42,040
Speaker 1: spot if they win, then they win the tiebreaker. Memphis

1247
00:57:42,040 --> 00:57:44,520
Speaker 1: needs winning, lots of help they get again.

1248
00:57:44,880 --> 00:57:46,760
Speaker 3: It's probably surprise that was the only one that took

1249
00:57:46,760 --> 00:57:49,560
Speaker 3: the maps here because of the Cup ramifications.

1250
00:57:50,080 --> 00:57:51,200
Speaker 1: So you think it's all, what do I know?

1251
00:57:51,320 --> 00:57:52,240
Speaker 4: I just what do I know?

1252
00:57:52,280 --> 00:57:54,920
Speaker 3: I mean, you goddamn giant pumpkin pile all week, So

1253
00:57:55,480 --> 00:57:56,760
Speaker 3: don't take any in my advice.

1254
00:57:56,840 --> 00:57:59,840
Speaker 1: Yeah, you've got the Maps to win by five or more,

1255
00:58:00,240 --> 00:58:03,240
Speaker 1: while myself, Trey, and Esh just have to have the

1256
00:58:03,240 --> 00:58:05,800
Speaker 1: Grizzlies lose by four or less. That's why you know

1257
00:58:05,920 --> 00:58:08,320
Speaker 1: this is a great team period. They won six in

1258
00:58:08,360 --> 00:58:10,760
Speaker 1: a row, so they just got to keep it close.

1259
00:58:11,360 --> 00:58:11,920
Speaker 4: Yes week game.

1260
00:58:12,080 --> 00:58:13,040
Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm looking forward.

1261
00:58:12,880 --> 00:58:15,080
Speaker 3: To this one. Let me take you through a couple

1262
00:58:15,080 --> 00:58:17,120
Speaker 3: other important games tonight, just quickly, because it is the

1263
00:58:17,160 --> 00:58:19,840
Speaker 3: final night for NBA Cup Group action in the East.

1264
00:58:19,880 --> 00:58:22,680
Speaker 3: The big games are Magic Knicks, so whoever wins that

1265
00:58:23,280 --> 00:58:26,200
Speaker 3: they're through. And then same with the Bucks Piston, so

1266
00:58:26,680 --> 00:58:29,840
Speaker 3: both those games win and you're in too the quarterfinals.

1267
00:58:30,080 --> 00:58:32,640
Speaker 3: For the Celtics to get the East wildcard spot, they

1268
00:58:32,680 --> 00:58:36,960
Speaker 3: need Detroit by at least five points or the Bucks

1269
00:58:37,040 --> 00:58:39,120
Speaker 3: sorry Detroit to lose by at least five points, or

1270
00:58:39,120 --> 00:58:41,320
Speaker 3: the Bucks to lose by at least six points in regulation.

1271
00:58:41,800 --> 00:58:44,520
Speaker 3: So that's what Celtics fans are looking at that game.

1272
00:58:45,280 --> 00:58:48,880
Speaker 3: A'll blowout sort of one way or the other because

1273
00:58:48,880 --> 00:58:52,360
Speaker 3: that will help their chances. Now, yeah, I guess the

1274
00:58:52,440 --> 00:58:56,240
Speaker 3: Knicks could beat the Magic by like forty five points

1275
00:58:56,240 --> 00:58:58,560
Speaker 3: tonight or fifty points, and maybe the Celtics could back

1276
00:58:58,600 --> 00:59:00,000
Speaker 3: door the way in. But you know that's what happen,

1277
00:59:00,320 --> 00:59:04,120
Speaker 3: so that's important. And then in West group b OKC

1278
00:59:04,320 --> 00:59:06,360
Speaker 3: clinches the group of the win and a Spurs loss.

1279
00:59:06,560 --> 00:59:08,480
Speaker 3: The Suns clinched the group of the wind and a

1280
00:59:08,520 --> 00:59:12,120
Speaker 3: Thunder loss, and the Spurs clinched the group with a win.

1281
00:59:13,000 --> 00:59:15,400
Speaker 3: So they control their own destiny here, but they have

1282
00:59:15,520 --> 00:59:17,960
Speaker 3: to win in Phoenix. So that's sort of like the

1283
00:59:18,200 --> 00:59:20,320
Speaker 3: that convoluted group out in the West.

1284
00:59:20,600 --> 00:59:25,760
Speaker 4: Exciting, very exciting, go go Pistons home made. I would

1285
00:59:25,760 --> 00:59:27,960
Speaker 4: like to see them get in the East.

1286
00:59:28,320 --> 00:59:31,880
Speaker 3: Could be hilarious. I was thinking that if if let's

1287
00:59:31,880 --> 00:59:34,080
Speaker 3: say the Bucks, yeah, beat the Pistons by only three

1288
00:59:34,080 --> 00:59:37,200
Speaker 3: points or something right or vice versa, it doesn't really matter,

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Speaker 3: it's a close game, we're gonna we would have in

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Speaker 3: the East the Hawks obviously already having won their group.

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Speaker 3: We would have the Pistons and the Bucks, and if

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Speaker 3: and then the Magic, let's say Orlando, Atlanta, Milwaukee and

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Speaker 3: Detroit could be our four teams in the Eastern Conference.

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Speaker 4: We're getting good seats.

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Speaker 3: These games a little different in the West, of course,

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Speaker 3: but yeah, that could happen. That could happen. So those

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Speaker 3: are tonight's games, Thank you so much. For joining us

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Speaker 3: here today. Really appreciate it. Hit the like butt, subscribe

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Speaker 3: podcast listeners, five star ratings and reviews. Back tomorrow to

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Speaker 3: break down the NBA Cup Group play final results. Are

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Speaker 3: we going to start on tomorrow show like looking ahead

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Speaker 3: the matchups, breaking them down.

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Speaker 4: We're gonna a little bit.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I think we do like fucking that out, So

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Speaker 3: we'll do that on tomorrow Show Live at tenneum Eastern Man.

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Speaker 3: I almost burped again right at the end. It almost

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Speaker 3: popped out.

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Speaker 4: Keep it down for an hour.

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Speaker 3: That's it, all right until the Clipper bros.

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Speaker 4: You heard it here first, have a great time, turn up,

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Speaker 4: Love you guys, awesome.

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Speaker 5: Thanks for joining us.

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Speaker 1: And remember, the home team in a basketball game doesn't

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Speaker 1: wear white anymore. That's another reason I'm taking the MAVs.

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Speaker 1: They're playing in blues on their blue court. Grizzlies are

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Speaker 1: wearing white. And if you're not watching on YouTube, you're

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Speaker 1: watching what is that? Two thirds of a pie is gone?

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Speaker 6: I mean that's not bad serious progress.

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Speaker 1: It's not gonna it's not gonna take you all a week,

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Speaker 1: take all week.

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Speaker 3: Follow the man. I put a lot in there. Uh yeah,

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Speaker 3: we'll find out. Yeah, I'd love to be done this

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Speaker 3: pie by Thursday. We have a guest coming on. It's

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Speaker 3: the People Race the day people