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Speaker 1: Welcome to Sharper Square, presented by hard Rock Bet.

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Speaker 2: We are a part of the Volume podcast network.

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Speaker 1: This is the show that makes the square sharper and

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Speaker 1: makes the wise guys pay attention.

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Speaker 2: I am Chad Melman.

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Speaker 1: I am joined as always by my co host, my companion,

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Speaker 1: my cam Padre, my BFF Professional Better, Simon Hunter.

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Speaker 2: Hehado, Simon Chad.

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Speaker 3: How are we doing, dude?

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Speaker 1: What a great day, What a fun weekend, What a

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Speaker 1: fun experience from Thursday through yesterday into today. Great games,

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Speaker 1: some games down to the wire. One of the games

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Speaker 1: that we are still paying attention to the Detroit Lions.

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Speaker 1: They are one of the teams we had in the contest.

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Speaker 1: We had them at minus six and a half.

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Speaker 2: We got a shot.

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Speaker 1: We got a small, infinitesimal only if you believe in

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Speaker 1: irrational optimism shot, and that one. We lost the Bills

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Speaker 1: minus ten and a half. We won the Panthers for

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Speaker 1: the game. We have spent a podcast career waiting to bet.

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Speaker 1: We won the Panthers plus three and a half at

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Speaker 1: home against Tampa, and we went with the Jags plus

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Speaker 1: three and a half on the road against the Broncos.

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Speaker 2: Our last ones out.

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Speaker 1: Kind of a mix of the Giants, the Colts tomorrow

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Speaker 1: night Tennessee, and Las Vegas. So you know, we could

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Speaker 1: have been better than we are as usual. We are

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Speaker 1: two and one, hanging on to a very thin thread

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Speaker 1: of hope with the Detroit Lions.

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Speaker 2: Did you enjoy the day?

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Speaker 3: Yeah, fun dad, great games. But that Troy Bett is

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Speaker 3: debt though unfortunately Pittsburgh missed the field goals, so oh.

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Speaker 2: I didn't see that out. Yeah, it was jabbering.

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Speaker 1: Well, the Troy Bett is dead and now they get

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Speaker 1: a chance to win, which just makes us annoyed because

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Speaker 1: we're both huge Bears fans.

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Speaker 3: Right now, Yeah, we'll see crazy game. But yeah, all

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Speaker 3: the games today really fun game, crazy games, and you know,

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Speaker 3: not too much to say about the bad teams, right

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Speaker 3: there was like these a couple of bad teams that

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Speaker 3: were playing. I didn't really watch too much of those games,

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Speaker 3: but these high profile games. I felt like playoff games

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Speaker 3: were pretty insane. And yeah, the biggest shacker of the

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Speaker 3: day in my opinion, was just this Jaguars game. The

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Speaker 3: game we're going to talk about it.

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Speaker 2: I just we're going to talk about that.

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Speaker 3: I can't believe how that game went, and it's rare

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Speaker 3: where you take a dog in that spot that kept

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Speaker 3: getting bet by the pros against it, right, the pros

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Speaker 3: piled in that favorites and you know they got blown

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Speaker 3: out by double digits. So pretty pretty shocking result in

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Speaker 3: that one. But great games today, all right.

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Speaker 1: So we won with the two dogs were down with

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Speaker 1: one favorite. We're going to lose with the other favorite

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Speaker 1: as soon as it's over in the Lions. Let's talk

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Speaker 1: about Carolina first, because, like I said, this was the

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Speaker 1: game we've been waiting our lives to bet. Anyone who

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Speaker 1: has listened to the show knows we have been backing

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Speaker 1: the Carolina Panthers forever.

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Speaker 2: We committed to it.

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Speaker 1: Today we said, this is the game that we have

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Speaker 1: earned ourselves the right to bet.

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Speaker 2: And I gotta tell you, when it started, the.

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Speaker 1: Bucks for a hot minute looked exactly like the team

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Speaker 1: that had all of its weapons, with Bucky Irving, with

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Speaker 1: Mike Evans with because Godwin like Baker looked good. But

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Speaker 1: the Panthers did what the Panthers do. And Bryce Young

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Speaker 1: continues to just be impressive under pressure, and Tetoa McMillan

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Speaker 1: was making unbelievable catches today and so to me, like

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Speaker 1: at the end of the half, Baker was only seven

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Speaker 1: ten for forty one yards, and the Carolina Panthers stopped

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Speaker 1: They had to settle for a field goal like the

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Speaker 1: Panthers were on one today and it was freaking glory.

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Speaker 3: Yes, yeah, And it was both sides of the ball.

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Speaker 3: Their defense was hard, hitting, really rallied around the just

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Speaker 3: the home crowd like that. It for honestly the first time,

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Speaker 3: it feels like it's since Cam Newton's you know, fifteen

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Speaker 3: not hear over the crowd noise. And it was a

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Speaker 3: weird game though, just for Baker in that offense and

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Speaker 3: He had one catch for forty yards. Mike Evans had

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Speaker 3: Like you said, tedor Roy McMillan, how is he not

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Speaker 3: shocked by what I've seen from this Panthers team. The

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Speaker 3: this Panthers organization and I don't know if it's next

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Speaker 3: week doesn't really matter, but it really does come down

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Speaker 3: to that final matchup with the Tampa Bay Books once again,

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Speaker 3: and they just look like the better team, this Panthers.

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Speaker 3: So I want to see do they just get rolled

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Speaker 3: next week? Chat and do we just back them once

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Speaker 3: again come week eighteen.

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Speaker 1: Simon, Simon, I'm going to say it now. Next week,

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Speaker 1: Carolina Panthers are seven and a half point home underdogs

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Speaker 1: against the Seattle Seahawks. I don't see this team giving

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Speaker 3: That's what they get you to do every time.

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Speaker 1: I know, right by the way, did something just fall

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Speaker 1: in your house. It sounded it sounded or was that

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Speaker 3: No, I have too many phones. One of my three

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Speaker 3: phones went off. Unfortunately, I don't know how I missed it.

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Speaker 3: Usually I'm pretty goodt muting this thing.

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Speaker 2: It sounded like it was a drum set.

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Speaker 1: It sounded like you were giving me like, uh, you know,

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Speaker 1: classic Bryce Young drive which is all the reasons why

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Speaker 1: Jatavian Sanders to take the lead, a ten play drive

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Speaker 1: they pick off Baker to end the game. Baker looked terrible,

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Speaker 3: but overall, yeah, they just they just didn't look with

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Speaker 3: Like we said, they've had all their weapons back, and

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Speaker 3: you know, every week it's been bizarre. A Mecha was

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Speaker 3: it just doesn't make sense.

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Speaker 2: And that, yeah makes sense.

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Speaker 1: It's insane because he had one great catch that sort

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Speaker 3: So yeah, no, it's I'm glad we stuck to it.

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Speaker 3: But it's also we always talked about it's about the

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Speaker 1: I'm watching the Lines game out of the corner of

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Speaker 1: updating that. The Buffalo Bills were ten and a half

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Speaker 2: Were you like this is stupid? Like I felt all

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Speaker 3: Yeah, Herry, I told you earlier that I had a

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Speaker 3: you said, everything was just going wrong for this Bills team.

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Speaker 3: And you know, at half, they're up twenty to ten,

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Speaker 3: But he was also just off target. It was a

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Speaker 3: bad It was just a bad half by Josh. Yeah,

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Speaker 3: end of the day, we still should have covered, like

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Speaker 3: you said, a million different ways. They missed the extra

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Speaker 3: point and they had a drop touchdown in the back

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Speaker 3: landed right in eleven. Should have been a cover even

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Speaker 3: was never going to help myself. I said it to you.

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Speaker 3: It's the Bills were the most public side, so usually right,

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Speaker 3: we usually blindly fade, especially in that spot, that opportunity,

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Speaker 3: and it's unfortunate where everything we said was true. The

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Speaker 3: Bills could run. I think they averaged six yards per care.

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Speaker 3: They did whatever they want running the ball. It just

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Speaker 3: And yeah, we should have covered. But the Browns, you know,

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Speaker 2: Yeah, look like that.

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Speaker 3: It was? It was a bad bet tickness bill.

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Speaker 2: There's no reason to hate him anymore.

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Speaker 3: We never hated him. We just didn't understand it where

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Speaker 3: it's like he has so much talent, why can he

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Speaker 3: not be consistent? And you know, the offense, like we've

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Speaker 3: I think he's like fifty to one for MVP. I

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Speaker 3: know he won't win it, right, we're too late in

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Speaker 3: So you know, bo Knicks, if you were someone that

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Speaker 3: They really did shut him down, so they they stepped out.

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Speaker 1: it's bo Nicks. It's been a crazy year. They flashed

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Speaker 1: Like all the glory to boon Nicks. But Trevor Lawrence

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Speaker 1: He realizes that the Broncos lose contain. He runs to

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Speaker 2: Got it?

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Speaker 1: That was the game, Like the Broncos were not going

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Speaker 1: And by the way, Simon the very next play, What

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Speaker 3: That was crazy, was surreal. I couldn't believe. I'm out good.

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Speaker 1: Look the key point here, and this is where I

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Speaker 3: Yeah, it's just crazy coming to this game and just

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Speaker 3: I don't know what they're getting another free play. I

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Speaker 3: We're rooting on our Bears futures here.

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Speaker 2: They couldn't get him off the field on third down.

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Speaker 3: fourth quarter, and then you're right, Warner, you know, had

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Speaker 3: bust off a huge run and opened up the floodgates

439
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Speaker 3: and yeah, there that like you were talking about that

440
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Speaker 3: touchdown drive They had three different times. They had rogers

441
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Speaker 3: in third and ten or third and twelve, and he

442
00:22:02,600 --> 00:22:05,760
Speaker 3: picked up those third downs to go get that touchdown

443
00:22:05,800 --> 00:22:07,480
Speaker 3: before half. So I agree with you on that, but

444
00:22:08,280 --> 00:22:10,840
Speaker 3: I just thought the offense laid a total leg like

445
00:22:10,920 --> 00:22:14,840
Speaker 3: they just look at the sports. You know, Golf had

446
00:22:14,880 --> 00:22:17,560
Speaker 3: a really bad game. I mean, Romo says a lot

447
00:22:17,560 --> 00:22:19,280
Speaker 3: of stupid shit, but the stupidest thing he said this

448
00:22:19,359 --> 00:22:23,640
Speaker 3: season was golf is an MVP discussion. No one has

449
00:22:23,640 --> 00:22:26,240
Speaker 3: had any type of discussion about golf being an MVP,

450
00:22:26,760 --> 00:22:28,320
Speaker 3: let alone. Now the man is on an eight and

451
00:22:28,359 --> 00:22:30,399
Speaker 3: seven team might not even make the playoffs. So that

452
00:22:30,480 --> 00:22:33,960
Speaker 3: was just a bizarre world. But yeah, this this Pittsburgh team,

453
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Speaker 3: I don't know how they do it. Chat, It's crazy,

454
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Speaker 3: like they just they have these type of games and yeah,

455
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Speaker 3: really impressive winning, you know, like you said, another season,

456
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Speaker 3: Tomlin somehow gets over the five hundred humps. It's crazy.

457
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Speaker 3: So I can't believe it.

458
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Speaker 2: Unbelievable.

459
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Speaker 1: Aaron Rodgers was so accurate on so many passes getting

460
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Speaker 1: the ball downfield. Again, here's what's going to be interesting

461
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Speaker 1: to me. So DK Metcalf towards the end of the

462
00:23:02,760 --> 00:23:05,680
Speaker 1: first half got into it with some fan who was

463
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Speaker 1: leaning over the railing on the Steelers sideline, and they

464
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Speaker 1: had video of DK Metcalf taking a swipe at this fan.

465
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Speaker 2: No one in the field saw it, the referees.

466
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Speaker 1: Didn't see it, but they did make an announcement on

467
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Speaker 1: the show on the game that there was going to

468
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Speaker 1: be some kind of punishment from the league. Who knows

469
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Speaker 1: what it'll be. DK Metcalf suspended next week. Like, as

470
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Speaker 1: we're thinking about the week seventeen lines, do we need

471
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Speaker 1: to look ahead and say, all right, is he going

472
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Speaker 1: to have DK Metcalf next week? Aaron Rodgers. I don't

473
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Speaker 1: know if it's going to be interesting because there was

474
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Speaker 1: definitely an altercation with a fan with him taking a

475
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Speaker 1: swipe at the guy on the sideline.

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Speaker 2: I don't know if you saw that at all.

477
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Speaker 3: I did immediately in or it made me think of chat.

478
00:23:50,359 --> 00:23:53,200
Speaker 3: I missed the good old days of snitches get stitches

479
00:23:53,680 --> 00:23:55,080
Speaker 3: that had nothing to do with anything on the field.

480
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Speaker 3: No one saw it. He was off talking to this fan.

481
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Speaker 3: The guy said something I'm gonna guess super offensive that

482
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Speaker 3: he probably would have drop the guy. He smacked him,

483
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Speaker 3: and immediately everyone was like start putting the fingers. Oh,

484
00:24:08,800 --> 00:24:10,960
Speaker 3: this guy's gonna get in trouble, So I I hate it.

485
00:24:10,960 --> 00:24:14,439
Speaker 3: It's got you gotcha culture, but he should be punished.

486
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Speaker 3: You can't be smacking fans whatever they say in the stands.

487
00:24:17,200 --> 00:24:20,399
Speaker 3: You gotta do the old fashioned way, tell security, and

488
00:24:20,400 --> 00:24:22,640
Speaker 3: you got to tell us that again. But dude, I'm

489
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Speaker 3: I hate it. People need to be smacking their mouths.

490
00:24:24,520 --> 00:24:27,640
Speaker 3: Some people just say stuff. And yeah, apparently this guy

491
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Speaker 3: held up his jersey to get him come over there

492
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Speaker 3: and then said something to him, which is just is.

493
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Speaker 2: That what happened?

494
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Speaker 3: Yeah, crazy people are just so crazy. So yeah, he

495
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Speaker 3: could be suspended. I mean, I'll look at their schedule

496
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Speaker 3: real quick. I think they end with the Ravens, right,

497
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Speaker 3: so if it's the next game, right, like you're saying,

498
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Speaker 3: that's best best case scenario. So I'll be interested in

499
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Speaker 3: the NFL does if he says, hey, man, this guy

500
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Speaker 3: said either racial slur or something about my family. Are

501
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Speaker 3: they really gonna suspend him? I don't know. It's good.

502
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Speaker 3: It's it's a tough spot for the NFL, but they

503
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Speaker 3: I have to just because you can't have players smack

504
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Speaker 3: the fans in the face. We know.

505
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Speaker 1: Meanwhile, the Lions, they just looked terrible, like it's you know,

506
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Speaker 1: it's interesting Romo says what he says. But when they

507
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Speaker 1: were showing the graphics up like Jared Goff twenty nine

508
00:25:17,560 --> 00:25:21,879
Speaker 1: touchdown passes, five interceptions, whatever, mournering yards top five in

509
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Speaker 1: all categories. If you had said to me, is Jared

510
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Speaker 1: Goff having a good year? I would have said absolutely not.

511
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Speaker 1: How many times have we said on the show the

512
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Speaker 1: Lions don't seem right, and like today they just they

513
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Speaker 1: didn't seem right at all, Like Jamior Gibbs couldn't get

514
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Speaker 1: it going, Jared Goff couldn't get it going.

515
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Speaker 2: They didn't.

516
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Speaker 1: They didn't have the ball past their own ten yard

517
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Speaker 1: line until less than ten minutes left in the fourth

518
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Speaker 1: quarter when we're talking about the second half, like they

519
00:25:51,840 --> 00:25:59,280
Speaker 1: were just terrible today. So yeah, listen, it's a Bears division.

520
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Speaker 1: I think we can agree. So I don't even need

521
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Speaker 1: to know why we're I don't even know why we're

522
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Speaker 1: talking about the Lions.

523
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Speaker 3: I just know better for the Lions fans, it's like

524
00:26:09,440 --> 00:26:11,760
Speaker 3: the NFL. Your windows literally two to three years and

525
00:26:11,800 --> 00:26:13,840
Speaker 3: then it's just over, so pretty brutal.

526
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Speaker 2: It's tough.

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Speaker 1: I mean, if they can get their offensive line fixed.

528
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Speaker 1: I still think they have enough offensive talent to make

529
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Speaker 1: it go, but their offensive line isn't as good this year.

530
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Speaker 1: They've had issues on the interier all year long, and

531
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Speaker 1: this year they were playing with the backup center, and

532
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Speaker 1: even on that play where Goff was tackled in the

533
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Speaker 1: end zone and there was a safety, part of the

534
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Speaker 1: problem is the timing on the play was off because

535
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Speaker 1: the snap was at his ankles. And so they've just

536
00:26:38,960 --> 00:26:41,159
Speaker 1: had the same issues this year that have come up

537
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Speaker 1: again and again and again, and they haven't been as

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Speaker 1: effective in the high leverage, high risk situations. We're two

539
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540
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Speaker 1: It's going to be exciting before we get to the rest.

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Speaker 2: Of the games.

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Speaker 1: The ones that don't made it in that certainly if

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Speaker 1: All right, so I'm looking at my phone right now

576
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Speaker 1: because one of the questions we have is about Tyler

577
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Speaker 1: Shock and the sayings who crushed the Jets today, and

578
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Speaker 1: he had another great game. But I wanted to see

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Speaker 1: where Tetro McMillan was at, and we talked about him

580
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Speaker 1: a little earlier in the show. He had ten catchers

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Speaker 1: for seventy three yards and a touchdown. I'm sorry, he

582
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Speaker 1: had six catchers for seventy three yards, ten targets and

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Speaker 1: a touchdown. How are you feeling about Tyler Shock versus

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Speaker 1: Tedo and McMullen McMillan right now?

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Speaker 3: I would still give it to McMillan, just because he's

586
00:29:20,440 --> 00:29:23,680
Speaker 3: been more consistent obviously throughout the whole season. But yeah,

587
00:29:23,720 --> 00:29:26,000
Speaker 3: the shuck if shuck, like I keep saying, if he

588
00:29:26,080 --> 00:29:27,880
Speaker 3: wins out and he keeps plump the numbers putting out,

589
00:29:27,880 --> 00:29:29,360
Speaker 3: it's gonna be really hard not to give it to him.

590
00:29:29,360 --> 00:29:32,800
Speaker 3: It's just the harder position to play. And he keeps winning.

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00:29:32,880 --> 00:29:36,120
Speaker 3: It's really impressive and he's just consistent. Like today, you know,

592
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Speaker 3: I think he threw for two hundred in the first half,

593
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Speaker 3: no touchdowns on the second half. You know, it was

594
00:29:40,640 --> 00:29:42,320
Speaker 3: really great pass the ball again, I think he threw

595
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Speaker 3: four to three yards and had great rushes and it's

596
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Speaker 3: just it's bizarre like watching him, I just can't believe

597
00:29:47,400 --> 00:29:50,720
Speaker 3: he's so he's this good consistent for this Saints team.

598
00:29:50,760 --> 00:29:52,400
Speaker 3: I just remember that they took him the second round.

599
00:29:52,400 --> 00:29:54,920
Speaker 3: I was just like, that's it feels like a bizarre pick.

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Speaker 3: Or maybe it was the third round, whatever it was.

601
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Speaker 3: I just felt like it was a reach. And to me,

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Speaker 3: the kids been by by far are the best Crook.

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Speaker 3: Even though you know Cambore played well today, he did win. Yeah,

604
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Speaker 3: I think that Shucks is playing just as well. So yeah,

605
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Speaker 3: I just looked at the only thing I could see

606
00:30:08,840 --> 00:30:11,520
Speaker 3: up right now is MVP. I am looking to see

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Speaker 3: if they do update what Schuck's odds were. They were

608
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Speaker 3: like sixteen to one or fourteen to one coming today,

609
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Speaker 3: But for MVP odds. Trevor Lawrence I talked about he

610
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Speaker 3: was fifty five to one literally twenty minutes before we

611
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Speaker 3: started the podcast. He's down to forty to one.

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Speaker 2: Wow.

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Speaker 3: So, like I think pros are going to think see

614
00:30:27,640 --> 00:30:29,040
Speaker 3: the same thing as me. I don't really think this

615
00:30:29,080 --> 00:30:32,120
Speaker 3: guy's gonna win it. But what is the last four games?

616
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Speaker 3: I think he has fourteen total touchdowns, no turnovers. It's

617
00:30:36,720 --> 00:30:39,760
Speaker 3: it's crazy. So you know, I said he'd played against

618
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Speaker 3: a pretty soft schedule. This was the number one defense

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Speaker 3: statistically of football, and he really showed out. We said

620
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Speaker 3: three touchdowns one rushing. It's three passing, one rushing. Crazy crazy,

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Speaker 3: crazy World War Living. And right now Jags potentially going

622
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Speaker 3: to be the one seed.

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Speaker 2: What are Kaylen Williams' MVP ads right now?

624
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Speaker 3: I don't even know if they're on the board. Brother, Oh,

625
00:31:03,960 --> 00:31:06,200
Speaker 3: they are eighty to one. That's actually a lot higher

626
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Speaker 3: than I thought. Eighty to one, because he could You're right,

627
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Speaker 3: he could be the one seed.

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Speaker 2: But they could be the one seed.

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Speaker 1: And if they're the one seed, propelled thereby what we

630
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Speaker 1: saw on Saturday night, all of a sudden, it's freaking magical.

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Speaker 2: We're going to get to.

632
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Speaker 3: Business stats like he could have if he had played

633
00:31:24,960 --> 00:31:27,960
Speaker 3: better start the year, but they were so run heavy

634
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Speaker 3: for the first eight weeks. I think I'm still a

635
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Speaker 3: mentality of like, he could be your guys first four

636
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Speaker 3: thousand yard passer, but I don't think your head coach

637
00:31:36,040 --> 00:31:37,400
Speaker 3: is gonna let him sling it. I think he just

638
00:31:37,400 --> 00:31:40,160
Speaker 3: wants to keep running the ball. So it's a unique

639
00:31:40,160 --> 00:31:41,440
Speaker 3: spot for this Bears offense.

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Speaker 2: Listen.

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Speaker 1: One of the games we left out today Minnesota at

642
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Speaker 1: the New York Giants. The line of the Giants in

643
00:31:47,600 --> 00:31:49,920
Speaker 1: the contest was two and a half, and we were

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Speaker 1: very disciplined on this one. We just didn't like it

645
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Speaker 1: at anything lower than three, thank freaking God, because the

646
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Speaker 1: Giants were a train wreck like they It was just

647
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Speaker 1: a comedy of airs. The Giants went for it early

648
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Speaker 1: in the first half on fourth and five in the

649
00:32:06,160 --> 00:32:10,920
Speaker 1: red zone. They get sacked. Next series, JJ McCarthy throws

650
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Speaker 1: a pick. The Giants ran ten of their first eleven

651
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Speaker 1: plays in Vikings territory, did not score in the first quarter,

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Speaker 1: and then they had to pick six against the Vikings,

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Speaker 1: who were in the Giants side inside the Giants five

654
00:32:26,080 --> 00:32:28,640
Speaker 1: yard line. They had a pick six against J McCarthy

655
00:32:28,920 --> 00:32:33,680
Speaker 1: called back because abdual Carter lined up in the neutral zone.

656
00:32:34,240 --> 00:32:38,360
Speaker 1: The next series, Darth throws a pick, the Vikings score

657
00:32:38,360 --> 00:32:43,040
Speaker 1: a touchdown fourteen point swing. JJ McCarthy didn't even finish

658
00:32:43,040 --> 00:32:46,080
Speaker 1: the game and the Viking and the Giants could not

659
00:32:46,280 --> 00:32:50,280
Speaker 1: score against the Vikings and ended up giving them the

660
00:32:50,320 --> 00:32:53,560
Speaker 1: game winning field bal What a pathetic performance.

661
00:32:54,000 --> 00:32:56,480
Speaker 3: Yeah, and it was. It was bizarre. Dart was seven

662
00:32:56,520 --> 00:32:58,760
Speaker 3: of thirteen for thirty three yards, or as Matt Mitchell

663
00:32:58,760 --> 00:33:02,200
Speaker 3: looks to say, a pretty good game. I don't know,

664
00:33:02,240 --> 00:33:04,760
Speaker 3: pretty bizarre in my opinion, Like I don't know why

665
00:33:04,760 --> 00:33:06,920
Speaker 3: they weren't letting him pass the ball at all. They

666
00:33:06,920 --> 00:33:09,600
Speaker 3: were running well, so I guess they just leaned into that.

667
00:33:09,840 --> 00:33:12,920
Speaker 3: And you said, we lost us a minute. They went

668
00:33:12,960 --> 00:33:14,720
Speaker 3: for it on fourth and five in the first quarder.

669
00:33:15,520 --> 00:33:17,120
Speaker 3: It was very bizarre. It's like, Okay, I guess they're

670
00:33:17,120 --> 00:33:19,600
Speaker 3: gonna be super aggressive this whole game, but they weren't

671
00:33:19,680 --> 00:33:23,480
Speaker 3: super game, so I don't know what that thinking was.

672
00:33:23,520 --> 00:33:26,880
Speaker 3: And like you said that when they called back that

673
00:33:27,080 --> 00:33:30,320
Speaker 3: touchdown on him being off sides, and it never gave

674
00:33:30,360 --> 00:33:32,400
Speaker 3: us the camera angle to show us him actually being

675
00:33:32,440 --> 00:33:34,240
Speaker 3: the line up of the neutro zone. I was just fuman.

676
00:33:34,320 --> 00:33:36,640
Speaker 3: I was like, my god, they're gonna kill us here.

677
00:33:36,680 --> 00:33:40,840
Speaker 3: But yeah, the plus three, like I gave it on,

678
00:33:40,920 --> 00:33:43,520
Speaker 3: Simon says, we just with these bad teams, you gotta

679
00:33:43,520 --> 00:33:46,000
Speaker 3: get every point you can. And yeah, thank god we

680
00:33:46,120 --> 00:33:48,320
Speaker 3: not take it two and a half because that would

681
00:33:48,360 --> 00:33:50,280
Speaker 3: have stung. That was just a brutal, brutal NOE cover.

682
00:33:50,360 --> 00:33:53,160
Speaker 3: It just felt like you said the Giant, especially once

683
00:33:53,200 --> 00:33:56,360
Speaker 3: the backup came in for Minnesota. He had two insane

684
00:33:56,400 --> 00:33:59,640
Speaker 3: throws on third down to Jefferson that basically sealed that

685
00:33:59,640 --> 00:34:01,960
Speaker 3: that them so just insane game altogether.

686
00:34:02,360 --> 00:34:05,600
Speaker 1: Simon, you know, it would fix calls that feel like

687
00:34:05,680 --> 00:34:11,440
Speaker 1: they're wrong on the field if every play could be

688
00:34:11,520 --> 00:34:17,120
Speaker 1: immediately adjudicated by officials who are watching the replay and

689
00:34:17,239 --> 00:34:21,160
Speaker 1: come down with a booth review that says this actually.

690
00:34:20,800 --> 00:34:21,880
Speaker 2: Wasn't a penalty.

691
00:34:22,320 --> 00:34:24,840
Speaker 1: It almost feels arbitrary what they're choosing to do it

692
00:34:24,840 --> 00:34:26,000
Speaker 1: for and what they're not doing it for.

693
00:34:26,400 --> 00:34:27,440
Speaker 2: It's just stupid.

694
00:34:27,680 --> 00:34:29,399
Speaker 1: Just do it for everything, and if the play's wrong,

695
00:34:29,920 --> 00:34:34,160
Speaker 1: fix it on the field right away. Guests who covered

696
00:34:34,320 --> 00:34:39,160
Speaker 1: the fourteen and a half point spread against the Houston Texans.

697
00:34:39,719 --> 00:34:42,120
Speaker 1: I take the blame for this. We were having the

698
00:34:42,120 --> 00:34:46,160
Speaker 1: conversation this morning. I said, don't we have to put

699
00:34:46,160 --> 00:34:49,120
Speaker 1: the Raiders in? And you said to me, if you

700
00:34:49,120 --> 00:34:52,480
Speaker 1: want to own it, have the courage do it. I

701
00:34:52,520 --> 00:34:54,400
Speaker 1: did not have the courage. Part of me didn't have

702
00:34:54,400 --> 00:34:55,880
Speaker 1: the courage because I just didn't want to lose the

703
00:34:55,960 --> 00:34:57,480
Speaker 1: Lions line.

704
00:34:57,560 --> 00:34:58,719
Speaker 2: That was really it.

705
00:34:59,360 --> 00:35:01,239
Speaker 3: We got to stop attach to him thember we learned

706
00:35:01,280 --> 00:35:03,200
Speaker 3: that last Yes attached, That's.

707
00:35:03,040 --> 00:35:03,480
Speaker 2: What I mean.

708
00:35:03,640 --> 00:35:05,520
Speaker 1: And so like, I didn't want to take the Lions

709
00:35:05,560 --> 00:35:09,880
Speaker 1: out because I liked the line, and we knew we

710
00:35:09,880 --> 00:35:11,560
Speaker 1: were going to replace the Patriots. We weren't going to

711
00:35:11,560 --> 00:35:15,359
Speaker 1: replace the Lions anyways, and so like, I just didn't

712
00:35:15,360 --> 00:35:16,640
Speaker 1: want to lose six and a half.

713
00:35:17,200 --> 00:35:19,360
Speaker 2: And I will not lie to you. When Gino threw that.

714
00:35:20,400 --> 00:35:24,880
Speaker 1: Just atrocious pick six to start the game to Stingley Junior,

715
00:35:25,400 --> 00:35:28,879
Speaker 1: like he basically threw it right to him, and I'm like, ah, fuck,

716
00:35:28,960 --> 00:35:33,279
Speaker 1: thank God, Like this bet is dead and the goddamn Raiders.

717
00:35:34,360 --> 00:35:37,840
Speaker 2: The Raiders defense made CJ. Stroud look like CJ.

718
00:35:37,920 --> 00:35:40,080
Speaker 1: Stroud as he had been before he got injured, which

719
00:35:40,160 --> 00:35:44,360
Speaker 1: was discombobulated inaccurate playing office heels.

720
00:35:44,640 --> 00:35:46,200
Speaker 2: This whole offense looked terrible.

721
00:35:47,239 --> 00:35:50,320
Speaker 1: They won twenty three twenty one Without that pick, the

722
00:35:50,400 --> 00:35:51,239
Speaker 1: Raiders win the game.

723
00:35:52,880 --> 00:35:55,200
Speaker 3: Yeah, I again, I wish I was more confident with you.

724
00:35:55,280 --> 00:35:57,120
Speaker 3: I literally bet this game just because that trend we

725
00:35:57,160 --> 00:36:00,000
Speaker 3: talked about the shoutout yes went to and oh today,

726
00:36:00,160 --> 00:36:02,680
Speaker 3: obviously I much rather wish we had Cincinnati in than

727
00:36:02,719 --> 00:36:05,239
Speaker 3: any game. It's like we were all over that one.

728
00:36:05,320 --> 00:36:07,239
Speaker 3: We loved that, we knew Joe was going to bounce back.

729
00:36:07,320 --> 00:36:10,040
Speaker 3: That was also horrible and miss. But yeah, the Raiders one.

730
00:36:10,400 --> 00:36:11,880
Speaker 3: I said on Tuesday, this is the type of game

731
00:36:11,880 --> 00:36:13,520
Speaker 3: where you had to bet the money line and bet

732
00:36:13,520 --> 00:36:16,400
Speaker 3: the Raiders and it's gonna make zero sense. And I

733
00:36:16,440 --> 00:36:19,239
Speaker 3: wish I'd kept that confidence because when I woke up

734
00:36:19,239 --> 00:36:21,319
Speaker 3: today and I looked at it, it's like, how is

735
00:36:21,400 --> 00:36:24,400
Speaker 3: Gino gonna move the ball against this Houston defense? Like

736
00:36:24,440 --> 00:36:28,160
Speaker 3: it's gonna take an absolute miracle, And they got it.

737
00:36:28,320 --> 00:36:31,879
Speaker 3: Gent showed out. This was an incredible gent game and.

738
00:36:31,840 --> 00:36:34,359
Speaker 2: Two touchdowns, big touchdowns.

739
00:36:34,080 --> 00:36:37,960
Speaker 3: Two touchdowns, one twenty eight, rushing a sixty yard reception

740
00:36:38,360 --> 00:36:41,600
Speaker 3: with it for a touchdown, and just really dominant. So

741
00:36:42,160 --> 00:36:45,560
Speaker 3: you know this this Texans team. They were due for

742
00:36:45,600 --> 00:36:47,360
Speaker 3: a letdown game, a little bit of a stinker, and

743
00:36:47,400 --> 00:36:49,000
Speaker 3: they still found a way to win, which is really

744
00:36:49,000 --> 00:36:52,120
Speaker 3: impressive by them. So yeah, it was a good read

745
00:36:52,120 --> 00:36:53,960
Speaker 3: by you, And yeah, I'm just like you. I regret

746
00:36:54,080 --> 00:36:57,120
Speaker 3: not getting in there, But like you said, probably only other,

747
00:36:57,320 --> 00:36:59,080
Speaker 3: only other, only team we would have taken out, we

748
00:36:59,120 --> 00:37:00,640
Speaker 3: would have we would have lost the line seven and

749
00:37:00,640 --> 00:37:03,239
Speaker 3: a half anyway, we would have had the Patriots outs.

750
00:37:03,280 --> 00:37:05,399
Speaker 3: We haven't send here three and two, which that hurts

751
00:37:05,440 --> 00:37:06,680
Speaker 3: to know because now we've got to stay up and

752
00:37:06,719 --> 00:37:07,360
Speaker 3: sweat tonight.

753
00:37:07,680 --> 00:37:09,520
Speaker 2: I know, it's so frustrating.

754
00:37:10,120 --> 00:37:13,080
Speaker 1: It's every freaking week we can't get the right games

755
00:37:13,160 --> 00:37:15,399
Speaker 1: out for the games that we want to put in.

756
00:37:15,640 --> 00:37:19,080
Speaker 2: The other one that we sort of just blew off.

757
00:37:20,320 --> 00:37:22,080
Speaker 1: And I told you, I ha bet the money line

758
00:37:22,160 --> 00:37:26,520
Speaker 1: on the Tennessee Titans as underdogs against the Kansas City Chiefs,

759
00:37:27,080 --> 00:37:30,960
Speaker 1: and neither of us really considered putting into the contest

760
00:37:30,960 --> 00:37:33,480
Speaker 1: because the line had moved so much. We just sort

761
00:37:33,520 --> 00:37:35,560
Speaker 1: of felt like we weren't getting the best of it.

762
00:37:36,040 --> 00:37:38,200
Speaker 1: And I only bet the money line kind of like

763
00:37:38,280 --> 00:37:42,480
Speaker 1: a as a flyer. I was just like, I don't know,

764
00:37:42,600 --> 00:37:45,720
Speaker 1: but this Chiefs team seems to not have anybody playing

765
00:37:45,719 --> 00:37:48,279
Speaker 1: who's on their first ring anymore. So I'm just going

766
00:37:48,320 --> 00:37:52,200
Speaker 1: to bet the Titans money line. And from the beginning

767
00:37:52,239 --> 00:37:55,000
Speaker 1: the Titans were all over this. And then Gardner Minshew

768
00:37:55,040 --> 00:37:58,640
Speaker 1: went out midway through the game with a turn acl

769
00:37:58,760 --> 00:38:01,239
Speaker 1: I think, yeah, I just.

770
00:38:01,200 --> 00:38:03,080
Speaker 3: Had the under in it. I just didn't even want

771
00:38:03,080 --> 00:38:04,759
Speaker 3: to watch it. So, yeah, it was good read by

772
00:38:04,880 --> 00:38:07,120
Speaker 3: you and the other pros. The pros hammered this Tennessee

773
00:38:07,200 --> 00:38:10,160
Speaker 3: game and shocking there were some pros on the Chiefs

774
00:38:10,160 --> 00:38:12,000
Speaker 3: like that game did get back up to minus three

775
00:38:12,000 --> 00:38:14,680
Speaker 3: and a half. Today was a unique spot. To a

776
00:38:14,680 --> 00:38:17,400
Speaker 3: lot of sports books I talked to, they needed the

777
00:38:17,480 --> 00:38:21,640
Speaker 3: Chiefs today. It was a rare opportunity that you know,

778
00:38:21,760 --> 00:38:24,439
Speaker 3: they the public was all over Tennessee, and they came

779
00:38:24,480 --> 00:38:26,120
Speaker 3: through a big way. Like you said, they won twenty

780
00:38:26,160 --> 00:38:28,440
Speaker 3: six to nine, and Minshew gets knocked out, so it's

781
00:38:28,440 --> 00:38:30,440
Speaker 3: like a nine six game a half. I don't if

782
00:38:30,480 --> 00:38:32,600
Speaker 3: Mintchell got knocked out before the half or right in

783
00:38:32,640 --> 00:38:34,120
Speaker 3: the beginning of the third quarter, but whenever it was,

784
00:38:34,160 --> 00:38:36,719
Speaker 3: they brought the half. Yeah, like you said, not that

785
00:38:36,760 --> 00:38:39,600
Speaker 3: the defense gave up, but I fe like anytime they

786
00:38:39,600 --> 00:38:41,759
Speaker 3: tuned back. In this Tennessee game, they're getting big runs

787
00:38:41,800 --> 00:38:44,720
Speaker 3: by Pollard and that just you know, once the Chiefs

788
00:38:44,800 --> 00:38:46,840
Speaker 3: defense goes, that whole team goes. They're just not a

789
00:38:46,880 --> 00:38:51,960
Speaker 3: good offense. So yeah, it's it's bizarre. It is truly bizarre.

790
00:38:52,200 --> 00:38:55,680
Speaker 3: The Chiefs lose by double digits. Tennessee Titans, who was

791
00:38:55,680 --> 00:38:58,360
Speaker 3: that their third win? Just keep ruining their own draft position.

792
00:39:00,680 --> 00:39:04,120
Speaker 1: The Giants, the Raiders, the Browns. Those are the teams.

793
00:39:04,239 --> 00:39:06,279
Speaker 1: The Titans might be up there, they might be top four,

794
00:39:08,000 --> 00:39:10,440
Speaker 1: the Giant notes, the Giants, the Raiders, the Browns, and

795
00:39:10,480 --> 00:39:13,839
Speaker 1: the Jets right now, and the Giants have number one.

796
00:39:14,880 --> 00:39:17,839
Speaker 1: I think I forgot who's got number two, But the

797
00:39:17,880 --> 00:39:20,440
Speaker 1: Browns have three, and so it could be interesting to

798
00:39:20,440 --> 00:39:22,040
Speaker 1: see who's going to try to trade up number one

799
00:39:22,040 --> 00:39:22,400
Speaker 1: to get.

800
00:39:22,600 --> 00:39:25,920
Speaker 3: It's Giants Raiders, So yeah, right, it's good. Giants Raiders

801
00:39:26,000 --> 00:39:28,240
Speaker 3: are the both two and thirteen teams.

802
00:39:28,360 --> 00:39:29,880
Speaker 1: So what are the What are the Raiders going to

803
00:39:29,920 --> 00:39:33,560
Speaker 1: give up to go get for Nano Mendoza. That's the question,

804
00:39:33,640 --> 00:39:36,239
Speaker 1: because the Giants will trade down unless the Giants are

805
00:39:36,239 --> 00:39:40,120
Speaker 1: like screw it, will trade Jackson Dart get some more

806
00:39:40,160 --> 00:39:41,920
Speaker 1: pieces and take from Nano Mendoza.

807
00:39:42,000 --> 00:39:43,839
Speaker 3: If you believe in your heart of arts, shat it's him.

808
00:39:43,880 --> 00:39:45,480
Speaker 3: You can get them minus two hundred a lot of

809
00:39:45,480 --> 00:39:48,280
Speaker 3: books right now to be number one pick. It's probably

810
00:39:48,280 --> 00:39:50,040
Speaker 3: the best you're going to get because I think the

811
00:39:50,080 --> 00:39:51,680
Speaker 3: kid's going to kill the interview.

812
00:39:51,360 --> 00:39:54,160
Speaker 2: Process, so, oh my god, he's going to crush it.

813
00:39:54,719 --> 00:39:56,359
Speaker 3: Like you said, it'll be interesting to see who who

814
00:39:56,520 --> 00:39:59,320
Speaker 3: ends up, because if it is the Raiders with the

815
00:39:59,400 --> 00:40:04,319
Speaker 3: number one pick, you know that's could they do something stupid? Sure,

816
00:40:04,320 --> 00:40:06,239
Speaker 3: But if it's the Giants, I could easily see them

817
00:40:06,280 --> 00:40:08,839
Speaker 3: trading out or who knows, maybe they don't like Dart

818
00:40:08,920 --> 00:40:10,920
Speaker 3: and how he plays. It's gonna be really interesting draft.

819
00:40:11,200 --> 00:40:15,400
Speaker 1: By the way, next week New York Giants and the

820
00:40:15,520 --> 00:40:17,919
Speaker 1: Las Vegas Raiders are playing each other.

821
00:40:19,000 --> 00:40:21,400
Speaker 2: Wow, that's greazy and isn't.

822
00:40:20,840 --> 00:40:25,000
Speaker 1: That crazy The number on that game Las Vegas is

823
00:40:25,000 --> 00:40:28,880
Speaker 1: a one and a half point home underdog against the

824
00:40:28,960 --> 00:40:34,720
Speaker 1: New York Giants Raiders Giants Tennessee, those are the games

825
00:40:34,719 --> 00:40:35,200
Speaker 1: we missed.

826
00:40:35,800 --> 00:40:41,640
Speaker 2: Bummer bumber, Hi Simon, who are you nominating? Shame on you?

827
00:40:42,360 --> 00:40:45,200
Speaker 3: Ooh, Chad, I've been waiting. I was gonna say something

828
00:40:45,239 --> 00:40:47,560
Speaker 3: this morning, not even that I was gonna say something

829
00:40:47,640 --> 00:40:50,800
Speaker 3: last week when we took Minnesota Vikings to beat the Cowboys.

830
00:40:51,320 --> 00:41:02,280
Speaker 3: Shame on you, Dallas Cowboys. Shame, shame, shame, another failure

831
00:41:02,400 --> 00:41:07,680
Speaker 3: of a season. Unbelievable. As an absolute Dallas hater, it

832
00:41:07,719 --> 00:41:10,560
Speaker 3: doesn't get much better than this, this latest run. Because

833
00:41:10,560 --> 00:41:13,640
Speaker 3: they do love their quarterback. They do. They talk about Dak.

834
00:41:14,280 --> 00:41:16,080
Speaker 3: I mean never in the amount of times I heard

835
00:41:16,120 --> 00:41:18,760
Speaker 3: Dak is better than Jalen Hurts. What are we two

836
00:41:18,800 --> 00:41:21,080
Speaker 3: playoff wins for Dak But he's about to be thirty

837
00:41:21,080 --> 00:41:24,520
Speaker 3: one years old at this point. The excuses get pretty

838
00:41:24,560 --> 00:41:28,359
Speaker 3: thin Chad. So the shame I can't stop shaming him enough.

839
00:41:28,640 --> 00:41:33,920
Speaker 3: This this Dallas team, unique, unique spot for them today.

840
00:41:34,000 --> 00:41:36,800
Speaker 3: We joked about it. I remember, not that you love Dallas,

841
00:41:36,840 --> 00:41:38,880
Speaker 3: but you were talking about you like Dallas, and we

842
00:41:39,000 --> 00:41:41,040
Speaker 3: joked there's no way you could bet on Dallas today

843
00:41:41,160 --> 00:41:43,759
Speaker 3: knowing that they had nothing to play for, and they

844
00:41:43,800 --> 00:41:46,239
Speaker 3: looked like it in that second half. So just on

845
00:41:46,360 --> 00:41:51,560
Speaker 3: microcosm of their season, total failure organizationally, and just gotta

846
00:41:51,600 --> 00:41:54,799
Speaker 3: shame them, just the This big bad wolf of the

847
00:41:54,880 --> 00:41:59,200
Speaker 3: nineties has just totally done nothing now for thirty five

848
00:41:59,280 --> 00:42:01,480
Speaker 3: years and like I always joke, if they want to

849
00:42:01,560 --> 00:42:05,480
Speaker 3: enjoy their Super Bowls, you got to plug in the VHS,

850
00:42:05,640 --> 00:42:10,120
Speaker 3: put in the tape. That's the world you're living in Dallas.

851
00:42:11,160 --> 00:42:16,200
Speaker 2: That is so that is so so true. My shame

852
00:42:16,239 --> 00:42:17,319
Speaker 2: of the week has to be the.

853
00:42:17,280 --> 00:42:27,240
Speaker 1: Lions, especially in that final two minute drive for the Steelers.

854
00:42:27,280 --> 00:42:30,160
Speaker 1: They had so many chances to get off the field

855
00:42:30,400 --> 00:42:33,040
Speaker 1: in that drive and they could not figure it out,

856
00:42:33,080 --> 00:42:36,080
Speaker 1: playing against a forty two year old quarterback and the

857
00:42:36,120 --> 00:42:40,440
Speaker 1: most important receiver for him on that drive was Adam Thielen,

858
00:42:40,480 --> 00:42:43,600
Speaker 1: who joined the team like two weeks ago. It was

859
00:42:43,640 --> 00:42:48,399
Speaker 1: the perfect example of how veterans play football when there's

860
00:42:48,520 --> 00:42:52,719
Speaker 1: chaos on the field and everyone tenses up a little

861
00:42:52,760 --> 00:42:55,120
Speaker 1: bit and they know exactly what to do because they've

862
00:42:55,160 --> 00:42:56,920
Speaker 1: been in that position a thousand times. There were multiple

863
00:42:56,960 --> 00:43:00,480
Speaker 1: players on that drive where they found open in the

864
00:43:00,560 --> 00:43:03,520
Speaker 1: zone and the Lions could not figure out how to

865
00:43:03,560 --> 00:43:07,480
Speaker 1: stop this team again and again and again. That that

866
00:43:07,640 --> 00:43:10,359
Speaker 1: was the ballgame. That drive was the ballgame, and they

867
00:43:10,360 --> 00:43:12,560
Speaker 1: could not get out the field. So shame on the

868
00:43:12,560 --> 00:43:15,759
Speaker 1: Detroit Lions. I think that was their season. I like,

869
00:43:16,560 --> 00:43:18,880
Speaker 1: they're not They're not going to make the playoffs. Right now,

870
00:43:18,880 --> 00:43:21,360
Speaker 1: you're gonna need ten wins to make the playoffs in

871
00:43:21,400 --> 00:43:24,160
Speaker 1: the NFC if you're not in the NFC South.

872
00:43:24,239 --> 00:43:28,160
Speaker 2: So that was it. That was the Lion season right there,

873
00:43:28,560 --> 00:43:29,280
Speaker 2: and it's over.

874
00:43:29,160 --> 00:43:32,480
Speaker 3: For loyal listeners, who are so loyal listeners to tonight

875
00:43:32,840 --> 00:43:35,120
Speaker 3: that ar Lawrence mep stuff is crazy right now. I

876
00:43:35,160 --> 00:43:36,800
Speaker 3: just got a text that he is down at thirty

877
00:43:36,800 --> 00:43:40,040
Speaker 3: to one at a couple of big books. So the

878
00:43:40,080 --> 00:43:42,319
Speaker 3: one book named after Donkey Kong, if you know what

879
00:43:42,320 --> 00:43:45,440
Speaker 3: I'm saying, so available for forty to one if you

880
00:43:45,440 --> 00:43:48,400
Speaker 3: want to go cretit. So I'm I'm going to do.

881
00:43:48,400 --> 00:43:49,640
Speaker 3: As soon as I got this call, I'm gonna throw

882
00:43:49,640 --> 00:43:52,040
Speaker 3: a little bit on it. Just it's I know it's

883
00:43:52,080 --> 00:43:54,839
Speaker 3: not going to happen, but we always say just in case.

884
00:43:54,880 --> 00:43:57,560
Speaker 3: It's like the shuck bet it's it's crazy.

885
00:43:57,680 --> 00:43:58,440
Speaker 2: Yeah, you never know.

886
00:43:58,880 --> 00:44:00,840
Speaker 3: Yeah, might as well third TM twenty bucks on it,

887
00:44:00,840 --> 00:44:01,560
Speaker 3: because you never know.

888
00:44:02,040 --> 00:44:03,200
Speaker 2: Who's your hero of the week.

889
00:44:03,920 --> 00:44:06,800
Speaker 3: Oh, this is gonna be pretty pretty easy for your boy, Chad,

890
00:44:07,520 --> 00:44:11,440
Speaker 3: the Philadelphia Eagles my hero of the week, Chad, and

891
00:44:12,840 --> 00:44:14,319
Speaker 3: I try not to be too bad. I let you

892
00:44:14,320 --> 00:44:18,080
Speaker 3: have your morning with your your bears talk even though

893
00:44:18,080 --> 00:44:20,920
Speaker 3: they didn't clinch a division like my Eagles did, and

894
00:44:21,000 --> 00:44:22,680
Speaker 3: I just let you have your moment because I was

895
00:44:22,719 --> 00:44:26,120
Speaker 3: gonna go so homerrific later today being my hero of

896
00:44:26,120 --> 00:44:31,280
Speaker 3: the week. It's I keep talking about, it's the best.

897
00:44:31,400 --> 00:44:33,719
Speaker 3: It's the best run in my lifetime, like these two

898
00:44:33,719 --> 00:44:36,759
Speaker 3: super Bowls the past seven years, and we just are

899
00:44:36,840 --> 00:44:40,040
Speaker 3: one hump these last twenty years. We just couldnot win

900
00:44:40,080 --> 00:44:42,879
Speaker 3: the division back to back. And that's why even coming

901
00:44:42,920 --> 00:44:44,479
Speaker 3: to the year, I remember I had tons of friends

902
00:44:44,640 --> 00:44:46,920
Speaker 3: being like, how are you giving out the Cowboys as

903
00:44:46,960 --> 00:44:49,080
Speaker 3: one of your best bets to win the division. It's like, well,

904
00:44:49,120 --> 00:44:51,880
Speaker 3: I'm betting big on the Eagles. The Cowboys is just

905
00:44:52,520 --> 00:44:54,640
Speaker 3: and this always happens, and it's not gonna be Washington,

906
00:44:54,640 --> 00:44:56,000
Speaker 3: That's gonna be the one that's gonna put us scarey

907
00:44:56,000 --> 00:44:57,799
Speaker 3: do so it's gonna be the Cowboys. But this year

908
00:44:58,440 --> 00:45:02,680
Speaker 3: it was all Philadelphia and just all the stats, the

909
00:45:03,920 --> 00:45:07,640
Speaker 3: crazy stats, just the fact that you know, let me

910
00:45:07,680 --> 00:45:09,279
Speaker 3: look at it. In two thousand and four to two

911
00:45:09,280 --> 00:45:11,719
Speaker 3: thousand and three went back to back to Eagles. That

912
00:45:11,880 --> 00:45:13,880
Speaker 3: is the last time chat that any team in this

913
00:45:13,960 --> 00:45:17,400
Speaker 3: division went back to beck It was Giants Eagles, Kyleway, Giants,

914
00:45:17,400 --> 00:45:20,640
Speaker 3: blah blah, all these different teams. I think the Cowboys.

915
00:45:21,920 --> 00:45:24,080
Speaker 3: We've basically been going back and forth in for years now,

916
00:45:24,120 --> 00:45:27,680
Speaker 3: but finally did it. Won back to back divisional titles.

917
00:45:27,840 --> 00:45:29,759
Speaker 3: Got a couple of AJ stats I'll give out real

918
00:45:29,840 --> 00:45:32,399
Speaker 3: quick because it's never any amount about. Oh, I wish

919
00:45:32,440 --> 00:45:35,480
Speaker 3: AJ was on the passing team. Blah blah blah. The

920
00:45:35,520 --> 00:45:40,440
Speaker 3: most receiving yards in Eagles history for their first four seasons.

921
00:45:40,920 --> 00:45:44,480
Speaker 3: AJ Brown with four thousand, eight hundred receiving yards. The

922
00:45:44,520 --> 00:45:47,640
Speaker 3: next one the Shawn Jackson at four thousand, The next

923
00:45:47,680 --> 00:45:51,520
Speaker 3: one Devonte Smith at four thousand. So whenever, somehow bat

924
00:45:51,520 --> 00:45:54,399
Speaker 3: our passing offense is a j Brown not only set

925
00:45:54,400 --> 00:45:57,080
Speaker 3: our franchise record, would beat it by eight hundred receiving yards.

926
00:45:57,880 --> 00:45:59,279
Speaker 3: Jalen Hurts took a time.

927
00:46:00,120 --> 00:46:02,200
Speaker 1: Amazing thing about that is as bad as your passing

928
00:46:02,200 --> 00:46:02,839
Speaker 1: offense is.

929
00:46:03,440 --> 00:46:05,040
Speaker 2: DeVante Smith is third.

930
00:46:05,600 --> 00:46:08,760
Speaker 3: Yeah, now, because it's not a bad passing offense. Yes,

931
00:46:08,840 --> 00:46:12,640
Speaker 3: people's expectations are ridiculous. Jalen Hurts been getting beat up

932
00:46:12,680 --> 00:46:16,080
Speaker 3: this year. He is the first quarterback at NFL history

933
00:46:16,200 --> 00:46:18,719
Speaker 3: to make the playoffs and four consecutive seasons with a

934
00:46:18,760 --> 00:46:22,200
Speaker 3: different offensive cordierd than those four seasons. Jalen Hurts is

935
00:46:22,200 --> 00:46:25,200
Speaker 3: the six quarterback in NFL history to reach a playoffs

936
00:46:25,200 --> 00:46:28,400
Speaker 3: in his first five seasons as a starter. Pretty pretty

937
00:46:28,480 --> 00:46:31,520
Speaker 3: rare opportunity for him. And Nick Seriani a guy I

938
00:46:31,520 --> 00:46:33,720
Speaker 3: need to give a ton of props too, just because

939
00:46:34,200 --> 00:46:35,799
Speaker 3: I was one of his biggest haters. I hated the

940
00:46:35,800 --> 00:46:39,960
Speaker 3: guy's personality. He just irked me. He's a great coach.

941
00:46:40,880 --> 00:46:43,520
Speaker 3: He is one of three Super Bowl era head coaches

942
00:46:43,520 --> 00:46:46,319
Speaker 3: to make the playoffs five times, win the division three

943
00:46:46,440 --> 00:46:48,920
Speaker 3: and go to the super Bowl two different times. The

944
00:46:48,960 --> 00:46:53,279
Speaker 3: other two Bill Cowhard and Chuck Knox. So Chuck nol

945
00:46:53,440 --> 00:46:57,759
Speaker 3: so pretty pretty rarefied air. And yeah, I just as

946
00:46:57,800 --> 00:46:59,600
Speaker 3: an Eagles fan, is a big time home er. I

947
00:46:59,640 --> 00:47:02,200
Speaker 3: do mysow that brings to the show because people hate

948
00:47:02,239 --> 00:47:04,759
Speaker 3: Eagles fans. We're probably gonna knock out in Round one.

949
00:47:04,800 --> 00:47:06,560
Speaker 3: But I believe we're going to win the super Bowl, obviously,

950
00:47:06,680 --> 00:47:09,680
Speaker 3: but this this could be peak by the fact that

951
00:47:09,760 --> 00:47:12,640
Speaker 3: we won our division and the Cowboys were eliminated with

952
00:47:12,760 --> 00:47:15,920
Speaker 3: three games less. I was party all Saturday when the

953
00:47:15,960 --> 00:47:17,879
Speaker 3: Bears won their game. Chat it was Iceland the cake,

954
00:47:17,920 --> 00:47:19,920
Speaker 3: It was it was a great night for your guys.

955
00:47:19,920 --> 00:47:22,680
Speaker 3: So yeah, here of the week, Philaelpia Eagles organization.

956
00:47:23,080 --> 00:47:27,279
Speaker 1: Well, listen, you know, I love the Eagles as much

957
00:47:27,320 --> 00:47:29,400
Speaker 1: as I would like to hate over. I have a

958
00:47:29,560 --> 00:47:33,960
Speaker 1: huge affinity for the Eagles between you know, doing Invincible

959
00:47:34,000 --> 00:47:37,600
Speaker 1: with Vince Papali, doing the show with you, having spent

960
00:47:37,680 --> 00:47:39,480
Speaker 1: so much time in Philly because of my kid going

961
00:47:39,520 --> 00:47:42,240
Speaker 1: to Drexel. I love the way people in Philly speak.

962
00:47:42,440 --> 00:47:44,839
Speaker 1: I love going to the Eagles games. I love the

963
00:47:44,880 --> 00:47:50,280
Speaker 1: atmosphere in Philly around sports. I'm all in, Fly Eagles,

964
00:47:50,320 --> 00:47:53,920
Speaker 1: Fly Go Eagles. I'm happy for you. I'm happy for

965
00:47:53,960 --> 00:47:56,960
Speaker 1: the town. I'm happy for Nick Sirianni. I'm happy for

966
00:47:57,080 --> 00:47:57,840
Speaker 1: Jalen Hurts.

967
00:47:58,440 --> 00:47:58,960
Speaker 2: I love it.

968
00:47:59,040 --> 00:48:02,160
Speaker 1: I love that defense, I love that offense. I love

969
00:48:02,200 --> 00:48:05,600
Speaker 1: that special teams, I love that offensive line. I'm with

970
00:48:05,640 --> 00:48:10,200
Speaker 1: you one hundred percent. But there's no way you're taking

971
00:48:10,239 --> 00:48:14,759
Speaker 1: away my hero moment from Kayleb Williams. Because tonight, tonight,

972
00:48:15,560 --> 00:48:19,280
Speaker 1: with the Detroit Lions lost, the Chicago Bears have clinched

973
00:48:19,760 --> 00:48:24,440
Speaker 1: a playoff spot in the twenty twenty five playoffs, Kayleb

974
00:48:24,440 --> 00:48:30,480
Speaker 1: Williams drops a dime in the bucket from fifty yards

975
00:48:30,520 --> 00:48:36,520
Speaker 1: out with a point zero six inch line of separation

976
00:48:37,239 --> 00:48:40,360
Speaker 1: to Dj Moore, who had gone out of the game

977
00:48:40,719 --> 00:48:44,840
Speaker 1: because he had been hitting the back. Without Luther Burden Junior,

978
00:48:45,400 --> 00:48:49,640
Speaker 1: without Roma Donza, with a offense that was struggling for

979
00:48:49,800 --> 00:48:54,320
Speaker 1: most of the night, they come back from ten points

980
00:48:54,719 --> 00:48:56,959
Speaker 1: down in the final minutes.

981
00:48:56,640 --> 00:48:58,560
Speaker 2: They recover an on sidekick.

982
00:48:58,640 --> 00:49:01,640
Speaker 1: Because this team believes good better best, they never let

983
00:49:01,680 --> 00:49:08,120
Speaker 1: it rest until the game is over. And you know

984
00:49:08,160 --> 00:49:12,200
Speaker 1: what Caleb Williams did today, Simon, what do you do?

985
00:49:12,840 --> 00:49:17,680
Speaker 1: Caleb Williams on a football Sunday. He could have been

986
00:49:17,680 --> 00:49:21,680
Speaker 1: hanging around watching red Zone seeing how the games played out.

987
00:49:22,200 --> 00:49:26,319
Speaker 1: He went underto the community, did some community service with

988
00:49:26,440 --> 00:49:29,600
Speaker 1: the people in the city of Chicago. And what was

989
00:49:29,640 --> 00:49:35,640
Speaker 1: he wearing on his head? Tell me a cheese greater hat.

990
00:49:38,360 --> 00:49:43,600
Speaker 1: Fuck the Packers, bear down. Caleb Williams Hero of the week,

991
00:49:44,920 --> 00:49:49,480
Speaker 1: Go Bears, old timer, look at us, look at us

992
00:49:49,600 --> 00:49:53,879
Speaker 1: just being happy, Simon says, was New York Giants plus three.

993
00:49:54,040 --> 00:49:56,560
Speaker 1: Chad's choice is New England plus three and a half

994
00:49:56,600 --> 00:49:59,439
Speaker 1: brass balls was Washington plus six and a half, Rock

995
00:49:59,480 --> 00:50:01,479
Speaker 1: and a hard play Buffalo minus ten and a half.

996
00:50:01,480 --> 00:50:04,040
Speaker 1: What the fuck talk about it. Come down here, sharp

997
00:50:04,120 --> 00:50:04,800
Speaker 1: versus square.

998
00:50:05,160 --> 00:50:10,720
Speaker 2: Chad had Tennessee, I think, and you had the Rams.

999
00:50:11,360 --> 00:50:14,560
Speaker 3: No I had. Unfortunately I had Buffalo, Buffalo.

1000
00:50:14,840 --> 00:50:18,440
Speaker 1: I had Tennessee. Our favorite parlay was New Orleans, yes,

1001
00:50:18,480 --> 00:50:22,200
Speaker 1: Detroit no. Cincinnati, yes, Buffalo minus five and a half no,

1002
00:50:22,960 --> 00:50:30,439
Speaker 1: Dallas No. Our underdog parlay Tennessee, yes, Arizona no. New

1003
00:50:30,520 --> 00:50:34,920
Speaker 1: York Giants no. Jacksonville Yes. New England is tonight.

1004
00:50:35,320 --> 00:50:35,680
Speaker 3: All right.

1005
00:50:35,760 --> 00:50:37,000
Speaker 2: I mentioned.

1006
00:50:38,200 --> 00:50:43,520
Speaker 1: A couple of the lines for Week seventeen, Carolina seven

1007
00:50:43,600 --> 00:50:48,160
Speaker 1: and a half point underdog at home against Seattle. That

1008
00:50:48,200 --> 00:50:51,880
Speaker 1: would immediately jumped out at me. You said, be wary

1009
00:50:52,480 --> 00:50:58,200
Speaker 1: because of you know, will Carolina have anything to play for?

1010
00:50:58,640 --> 00:51:00,759
Speaker 1: I don't think Carolina knows how to pull back. That's

1011
00:51:00,760 --> 00:51:01,760
Speaker 1: not the panther away.

1012
00:51:03,600 --> 00:51:05,279
Speaker 3: That and just they're up and down. The up and

1013
00:51:05,320 --> 00:51:07,560
Speaker 3: downs we've had from this year, they just they right

1014
00:51:07,719 --> 00:51:10,200
Speaker 3: every other game they lose, and I've been making money

1015
00:51:10,200 --> 00:51:12,720
Speaker 3: off It's it's very it's been very lazy, lazy betting,

1016
00:51:12,800 --> 00:51:16,520
Speaker 3: but it's been it's been hitting really nice. Yeah, it's

1017
00:51:16,600 --> 00:51:18,120
Speaker 3: it's gonna be a tough week. Like I don't want

1018
00:51:18,120 --> 00:51:20,560
Speaker 3: to waste too much time the Christmas games because Rob's

1019
00:51:20,560 --> 00:51:22,120
Speaker 3: we're going go really hard of them on Tuesday. But

1020
00:51:22,760 --> 00:51:25,480
Speaker 3: you know, the books are gonna be begging for Washington

1021
00:51:25,640 --> 00:51:28,920
Speaker 3: and Minnesota money. The Washington are at home against Dallas.

1022
00:51:29,200 --> 00:51:32,439
Speaker 3: They're a plus five and a half right now. I mean,

1023
00:51:32,480 --> 00:51:34,960
Speaker 3: I'm probably gonna take them. We'll find out who the

1024
00:51:35,040 --> 00:51:36,959
Speaker 3: quarterback is and that's what I'll take my position because

1025
00:51:37,000 --> 00:51:39,960
Speaker 3: I'm I'm obviously hesitant to backup. But Dallas look like

1026
00:51:40,000 --> 00:51:42,319
Speaker 3: a team that was totally checked out today. And you know,

1027
00:51:42,360 --> 00:51:44,399
Speaker 3: in Minnesota plus five and a half against the Lion's

1028
00:51:44,400 --> 00:51:46,920
Speaker 3: team they already beat earlier in the year. The public

1029
00:51:46,960 --> 00:51:48,759
Speaker 3: is gonna do what they did today, right They're gonna

1030
00:51:48,800 --> 00:51:51,760
Speaker 3: hammer the Lions once again, So you could be patiently

1031
00:51:51,760 --> 00:51:53,200
Speaker 3: that one. I think we'll go to get the six

1032
00:51:54,160 --> 00:51:56,239
Speaker 3: two Saturday games. Don't really have a great read on

1033
00:51:56,280 --> 00:51:58,279
Speaker 3: either of them yet, Like it's it's begging me to

1034
00:51:58,320 --> 00:52:00,399
Speaker 3: take the Chargers. Chargers are minus one and half at

1035
00:52:00,400 --> 00:52:04,760
Speaker 3: home against the Texans. We've talked to Texans. It feels

1036
00:52:04,760 --> 00:52:06,239
Speaker 3: like they've just been getting away with the one and

1037
00:52:06,320 --> 00:52:07,719
Speaker 3: today was a day they should have got caught and

1038
00:52:07,719 --> 00:52:10,880
Speaker 3: they still wanted. So maybe I'm overreacting and they are

1039
00:52:11,040 --> 00:52:13,239
Speaker 3: legit team. I should just take them as a dog here,

1040
00:52:13,280 --> 00:52:15,879
Speaker 3: Like that's usually when we back CJ. Stroud and usually

1041
00:52:15,920 --> 00:52:17,960
Speaker 3: fade Herbert as a favorite. Yeah, we didn't even talk

1042
00:52:18,000 --> 00:52:20,960
Speaker 3: about Herbert, but again another week Herbert as a dog covered.

1043
00:52:21,040 --> 00:52:23,440
Speaker 3: The stats are just crazy and I think it's thirteen

1044
00:52:23,480 --> 00:52:25,640
Speaker 3: and two against us against the spread as an underdog.

1045
00:52:27,120 --> 00:52:30,240
Speaker 3: Then the night game on that Saturday is green Bay

1046
00:52:30,480 --> 00:52:35,080
Speaker 3: Packers versus the Ravens. Yeah, some books opened green Bay

1047
00:52:35,200 --> 00:52:38,920
Speaker 3: plus two plus two and a half. Really gonna be

1048
00:52:38,920 --> 00:52:41,320
Speaker 3: interested what that number is. If it's still available, you

1049
00:52:41,360 --> 00:52:44,200
Speaker 3: can still get it tonight. If the Ravens do win

1050
00:52:44,320 --> 00:52:46,480
Speaker 3: or you know, say they do show up and they

1051
00:52:46,480 --> 00:52:48,400
Speaker 3: blow them out. This easy to go up to minus

1052
00:52:48,400 --> 00:52:50,879
Speaker 3: three minus three and a half for this Ravens team.

1053
00:52:50,960 --> 00:52:54,400
Speaker 3: So just early indication. I'll be patient. I want to

1054
00:52:54,440 --> 00:52:56,279
Speaker 3: be on Green Bay. Like I think Malik Willis is

1055
00:52:56,440 --> 00:52:59,640
Speaker 3: pretty good. Yeah, so that's a really interesting one. Now

1056
00:52:59,680 --> 00:53:02,240
Speaker 3: let's get to the bets. I do want to make Chad.

1057
00:53:03,480 --> 00:53:06,520
Speaker 3: You know, I know people are gonna annoyed of it,

1058
00:53:06,920 --> 00:53:08,520
Speaker 3: but I'm gonna keep going to this well of this

1059
00:53:08,640 --> 00:53:12,640
Speaker 3: Colts team. Uh, it's I know, the history of them

1060
00:53:12,680 --> 00:53:16,080
Speaker 3: the Jacks. But they're plus seven right now, just early line.

1061
00:53:16,120 --> 00:53:19,120
Speaker 3: I'll grab that. They're plus seven at home against the Jaguars.

1062
00:53:20,520 --> 00:53:22,120
Speaker 3: I just people don't have to rush to get it

1063
00:53:22,120 --> 00:53:23,200
Speaker 3: because I get the seven and a half. But I'm

1064
00:53:23,239 --> 00:53:25,800
Speaker 3: gonna grab it now just in case they do upset

1065
00:53:25,800 --> 00:53:28,400
Speaker 3: the forty nine ers, that number will drop. So that's

1066
00:53:28,480 --> 00:53:32,319
Speaker 3: early what I'm gonna grab. I can't believe it. You're

1067
00:53:32,480 --> 00:53:35,279
Speaker 3: Chicago Bears, Chad, they're plus three. I guess the forty

1068
00:53:35,320 --> 00:53:37,799
Speaker 3: nine Ers, like I've talked about, I'm very suspect that

1069
00:53:37,840 --> 00:53:40,439
Speaker 3: forty nine Ers team. So I'm gonna drink the kool aid.

1070
00:53:40,480 --> 00:53:42,080
Speaker 3: I'm gonna take the plus three. I've been doing it

1071
00:53:42,120 --> 00:53:44,880
Speaker 3: all season with this Bears team. They just play ugly.

1072
00:53:44,920 --> 00:53:46,920
Speaker 3: They can get getting blown out. They'll find a way

1073
00:53:46,960 --> 00:53:47,959
Speaker 3: to kind of back door it.

1074
00:53:49,600 --> 00:53:50,399
Speaker 2: Good better best.

1075
00:53:52,320 --> 00:53:56,000
Speaker 3: And I know I'm banned from talking to Tennessee Titans

1076
00:53:56,040 --> 00:53:59,880
Speaker 3: Saints games, but how do I not ride my boys?

1077
00:54:00,320 --> 00:54:02,800
Speaker 3: He's minus two right now on the road against this

1078
00:54:02,880 --> 00:54:06,239
Speaker 3: Tennessee team after a huge Tennessee win, So I might

1079
00:54:06,280 --> 00:54:08,279
Speaker 3: begin step into a trap or I'll be patient on

1080
00:54:08,280 --> 00:54:10,480
Speaker 3: that one. Gonna grab it just in case he goes

1081
00:54:10,560 --> 00:54:12,400
Speaker 3: up to minus three on shuck on the road. So

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Speaker 3: very public favorite on the road here, But I just

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Speaker 3: I love the Saints team.

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Speaker 1: Oh, I can't wait till it gets at three and

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Speaker 1: I'm taking the Tennessee Titans.

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Speaker 3: I love this team. It's probably the right side. That's

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Speaker 3: a pro.

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Speaker 2: Love this team, all right.

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Speaker 1: We are waiting on the Patriots tonight at plus three

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Speaker 1: and a half. That will be the fifth game of

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Speaker 1: the day for us. We lost with the Lions minus

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Speaker 1: six and a half, the Bills minus ten and a half,

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Speaker 1: one with the Jags plus three and a half. And

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Speaker 1: I forgot who else we won with.

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Speaker 2: That's so weird.

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Speaker 3: Do you remember who we won with today? We won

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Speaker 3: with the Jags and Carolina Carolina.

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Speaker 1: That's right, our favorite team ever. It's like forgetting my

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Speaker 1: favorite child.

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Speaker 2: All right.

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