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Speaker 1: All right, welcome back to One Bills Live Chris Brown

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Speaker 1: with Steve Tasker, and it is that time in the show,

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Speaker 1: that time in the week here on One Bills Live,

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Speaker 1: where we try to stump Steve Tasker. As we know,

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Speaker 1: Steve had a long and storied career with the Buffalo Bills.

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Speaker 1: He had hundreds of teammates in his career. Who knows,

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Speaker 1: maybe thousands. Steve might be over a thousand with all

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Speaker 1: the guys that came through the we count training camp rosters,

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Speaker 1: you might be over a thousand. Maybe that's a lot, though, Yeah,

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Speaker 1: and you and your teams didn't have nearly as much

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Speaker 1: turnover as we see, well they did what every training

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Speaker 1: camp was, you know, another forty guys. So maybe, but

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Speaker 1: in any event, it is Tasker's teammates. I believe this

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Speaker 1: is addition four, as we've done this three other times.

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Speaker 1: We had Quinn early, Leon Seals, and I'm trying to

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Speaker 1: remember last last Keith mckeller. Oh yeah, Keith McKellar, which

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Speaker 1: you got into record three clues. So you're you're you're

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Speaker 1: getting better at this, Steve, so so kudos to you.

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Speaker 1: But we'll see if we can stump you this time

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Speaker 1: around so, first clue on the board for this edition

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Speaker 1: of Tasker's Teammate. I was a teammate of Steve Taskers

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Speaker 1: for eight seasons, all of which were with the Bills

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Speaker 1: and included all four Super Bowl appearances. Okay, any thoughts

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Speaker 1: at all, Mark Kelso? It is not Mark Kelso. Okay,

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Speaker 1: so there's the first first guest. Okay, in high school.

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Speaker 1: Clue number two. In high school, I was not only

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Speaker 1: a successful football player in Ohio but also a successful

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Speaker 1: wrestler's Tasker's teammate. Clue number two. And if we have

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Speaker 1: any game show music back at the gr Studios, we'd

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Speaker 1: certainly appreciate the wrestler. Man. That's big hold on. I

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Speaker 1: will try. I don't want to give it away early,

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Speaker 1: so I'm trying to be cryptic with these clues. I

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Speaker 1: don't think Daryl Daryl Talley. He is a Cleveland native,

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Speaker 1: but it is not Darryl Talley. I didn't think. I

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Speaker 1: didn't think he was a wrestler. I didn't, I don't.

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Speaker 1: I don't know. If he was, we'd have to ask

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Speaker 1: him something about Ray Bentley. It's not Ray Bentley. Okay, Okay,

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Speaker 1: here we go. Clue number three. Okay, I continued my

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Speaker 1: success as a football player in college, as I was

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Speaker 1: a first team All American and was a high draft

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Speaker 1: choice of the Buffalo Bills. Henry Jones, It is not

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Speaker 1: Henry Jones. He wasn't there for all four Super Bowls.

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Speaker 1: He was there for three the last three. Yeah. Hold on,

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Speaker 1: oay said? That was clue number three? All right, hold on,

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Speaker 1: hold on? He was all high school. He was a

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Speaker 1: wrestler in high school. And what was that last? What

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Speaker 1: was just team All American in college and was a

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Speaker 1: high draft choice of the Bills. I couldn't give you

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Speaker 1: the year, it would give it away. H So that's

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Speaker 1: three clues down. Oh, you want to take another stab

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Speaker 1: before I go to clue number four. Yeah, Ruben Brown,

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Speaker 1: It is not Ruben Brown. Ruben's a Virginia native. He's

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Speaker 1: not from Ohio. I didn't know that, Okay, So here's

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Speaker 1: clue number four. I was an eleven year starter for

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Speaker 1: the Bills, and over that span, I missed just twelve starts. Oh,

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Speaker 1: I know who that is. That's Jimmy or Richard ding

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Speaker 1: Ding ding ding Ding Steve well Dale, Ohio. Yeah, yeah,

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Speaker 1: Jimmy Richard. All right, Well, good job, I trust should

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Speaker 1: have known that I should have gotten down on the wrestler.

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Speaker 1: I forgot it. I forgot about it. He was, Yeah,

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Speaker 1: not Finley, Ohio. He was Hinkley, Hinkley, Ohio. Yeah. Well

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Speaker 1: they on Wikipedia could be wrong, but they're telling me Brea.

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Speaker 1: So I don't know if that's right or not. But

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Speaker 1: for us. So, Jim, thanks for joining us. Steve, guess

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Speaker 1: you and four clues? Yeah, a second? Good job? Thanks? Now,

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Speaker 1: didn't it? Aren't you the place in Ohio where the

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Speaker 1: buzzers return every year? Exactly? Hinkley. You know when I

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Speaker 1: first went to college. Of course, I've never been very smart.

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Speaker 1: But when I first went to college, they they said

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Speaker 1: where were you born? And I was born in a

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Speaker 1: I knew that was I knew you were really good wrestler,

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Speaker 1: I always tell people I'm an undefeated collegiate wrestler. Because

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Speaker 1: the University of North Carolina d Hardison, and d was

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Speaker 1: even working out yet. I don't think for for football,

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Speaker 1: coach came to me and said, you know, well, you've

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Speaker 1: And then the coaches, the football coaches came to me

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Speaker 1: didn't even put the out there. They put the guy

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Speaker 1: that had been wrestling, and I ended up winning. But

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Speaker 1: I was so tired I couldn't even I couldn't even

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Speaker 1: been so tired. They said, you gotta come out, and

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Speaker 1: you know you've got to be a wrestler for us.

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Speaker 1: I said, no, that's it. I'm an undefeatedly difference, that's it.

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Speaker 1: But Jim, Jim, what is the what would you say

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Speaker 1: is the biggest difference in terms of the stamina and

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Speaker 1: sustained and constant for like three four minutes. Right, Yeah,

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Speaker 1: you know, the say the six minutes or you know whatever.

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Speaker 1: where you're out there and you're you're struggling either to

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Speaker 1: never do that. Jimmy, you you're one of the guys

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Speaker 1: article about how offensive lineman when they leave the game,

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Speaker 1: they either go one way or the other. They either

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Speaker 1: And I know, we we've crossed paths a ton of

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Speaker 1: times since since you've finished playing. You were and one

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Speaker 1: who's out what are your what you're playing weight now?

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Speaker 1: As it were, Well, I've always been sort of a

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Speaker 1: but right now I'm around two thirty five to forty,

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Speaker 1: So you know, I'm back up but playing the most

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Speaker 1: of course, a sweating, but I never had two eighty

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Speaker 1: to replace me, so I'd be hiding weights, you know,

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Speaker 1: Fred and I said, see, you know, because he's always

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Speaker 1: getting on. He says, you probably have weights under your hat,

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Speaker 1: look underneath the rusty thought. I was terrorised all the time.

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Speaker 1: That's that's the way it really was. I mean, and

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Speaker 1: I remember this too. One of the reasons you could

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Speaker 1: a lot of other guys because of your strength and

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Speaker 1: also because they used you a lot of time. There

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Speaker 1: were times when I swore up and down, you probably

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Speaker 1: most athletic offensive linemen, and you were you actually went

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Speaker 1: no one going to outrun you. Said, mean, it looked

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