Speaker 1: Hi.
Speaker 2: Okay, so hello, how are you guys at Where are
Speaker 2: you both?
Speaker 3: We're both in the city right now.
Speaker 2: You're in the city in your respective apartments.
Speaker 3: Yeah, we're both at home.
Speaker 2: Okay.
Speaker 4: So this is the vip list who I found on
Speaker 4: social media, on TikTok in particular, but they have a
Speaker 4: smaller presence on Instagram as many TikTokers do, which we
Speaker 4: can get into.
Speaker 2: And they are. Do you mind my asking how old
Speaker 2: you girls are?
Speaker 3: We're both twenty six.
Speaker 2: You're both twenty six, and you knew each other since
Speaker 2: you're how old?
Speaker 3: Since we goverth three. We met each other in preschool.
Speaker 4: In what in like around Philly where Yeah, suburbs of
Speaker 4: Philadelphia were from there?
Speaker 2: Okay?
Speaker 4: And did you stay friends the entire time? Did you
Speaker 4: go to school together, did you go to college together?
Speaker 4: Or you just stayed in touch?
Speaker 1: We went to middle school and high school together. We
Speaker 1: went different ways in college. In elementary school, I went
Speaker 1: to like a different elementary school. I went to Catholic school.
Speaker 2: And you stayed in touch your whole life.
Speaker 3: Yeah somehow? Okay.
Speaker 5: Halfway through Meg moved to Boca and I was in
Speaker 5: school in Miami, so like we were connected again there,
Speaker 5: and then I ended up moving to New York.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I went to Penn State, but I hated the
Speaker 1: farm life, so I dropped out and then started working instead.
Speaker 2: Oh you did? What did you start working as?
Speaker 3: So?
Speaker 1: After I dropped out of Penn State, I moved to
Speaker 1: Florida did real estate for a little bit.
Speaker 3: Then I came up to New York and worked in
Speaker 3: wealth management.
Speaker 1: And that's why I live in Fidya because I would
Speaker 1: commute to work from here. And during the pandemic, when
Speaker 1: we were working from home, I was just posting content
Speaker 1: and like me and Audrey joined forces and started posting
Speaker 1: content from New York and Miami and here we are.
Speaker 3: Somehow we turned it into a full time gig.
Speaker 4: What made you join forces? And what made you get
Speaker 4: into the food review space? So the vip list these
Speaker 4: are two girls, their friends, lifelong friends. I found them
Speaker 4: from doing irreverent, unapologetic, sometimes savage food reviews with a
Speaker 4: humorous twist and lingo and like tag phrases like go
Speaker 4: cry about it and you're you know?
Speaker 2: So how did this get started?
Speaker 3: So basically, Meg posted a video on TikTok.
Speaker 5: We would FaceTime every day because we were both just
Speaker 5: so bored during the pandemic, and Meg posted a video
Speaker 5: of a review of Marquee and that video got ten
Speaker 5: k views, and she calls me. She's like, oh my god,
Speaker 5: going viral, Like we need to do something with this.
Speaker 3: So I had a bunch of.
Speaker 5: Contents and we're like, oh my god, this is huge,
Speaker 5: like we're gonna be famous, like this is everything. So
Speaker 5: we both had a bunch of content from before everything
Speaker 5: shut down. So I had a bunch of content from Miami.
Speaker 5: She had a bunch from New York. And we had
Speaker 5: both always loved like going out to eat, and a
Speaker 5: lot of it was partying to at first, like we
Speaker 5: were doing club reviews. So we just started posting that content,
Speaker 5: and then once we ran out of that, we did
Speaker 5: take out reviews.
Speaker 4: Oh wait, wait, wait, why did you have content? Like
Speaker 4: what were you thinking you were doing? Like where was
Speaker 4: the content? Just living?
Speaker 1: We were just posting on Snapchat all the time before
Speaker 1: the world of lockdown, Like we had so many videos
Speaker 1: that we would take at the club or at restaurant.
Speaker 1: I through with interning for Dave Grutman at the time
Speaker 1: before everything shut down, so she had.
Speaker 4: You guys, Dave Grutman owned all the major like hip
Speaker 4: spots in Miami. He's like a nightclub impressario in Miami.
Speaker 4: So she was working for Dave Grutman. Okay, so you
Speaker 4: had access to the cool places.
Speaker 5: Yeah, so I was part of my internship was taking
Speaker 5: content at the restaurants and clubs, so I had so
Speaker 5: much saved just in my camera roll. The we just
Speaker 5: were posting, and we also both just loved going out
Speaker 5: to eat and were always documenting everything anyways, So I think.
Speaker 1: The takeout were usually blew and stuff though, because at
Speaker 1: the time, no one was going out to the restaurants
Speaker 1: that everyone was ordering in and they didn't know where
Speaker 1: to order from, so we would just really we took
Speaker 1: it upon ourselves to order it out every single day
Speaker 1: and just.
Speaker 3: Tell people where to eat, where to get their foods.
Speaker 4: Up and is it Are you writing it all off
Speaker 4: now when you're ordering, when you're posting about it.
Speaker 5: Oh?
Speaker 3: Absolutely? Oh yeah, yeah, we have an LLC, so yeah,
Speaker 3: everything goes through that.
Speaker 1: Okay, So what popped it off? I think our art
Speaker 1: to Choke. We we roasted artichoke pizza during the pandemic.
Speaker 1: It got like six million views and me gained like
Speaker 1: one hundred thousand followers from that one video.
Speaker 4: You're saying you roasted it was bad Arto choke, but
Speaker 4: you say, yeah, you said it was bad.
Speaker 5: I made it sober unfortunately, and uh, we were like,
Speaker 5: I don't know how I ever enjoyed this.
Speaker 4: And it got because it was growing because it was
Speaker 4: like slop like cheesus.
Speaker 3: Oh my god, it was just straight yeah exactly.
Speaker 4: Oh and so you roasted that and then you were
Speaker 4: like okay, and then you led with the irreverent yeah.
Speaker 1: And then people started like parodying us, like the way
Speaker 1: we spoke, and they were getting a lot of views,
Speaker 1: and we're like, okay, like, if they're parroting us and
Speaker 1: getting more views, why don't we just start saying the
Speaker 1: most unhinged stuff possible and get the views ourselves.
Speaker 3: So we just started doing that and here we are.
Speaker 2: So who's the saying, go cry about it? Which one
Speaker 2: of you?
Speaker 3: We switch off?
Speaker 5: We switch off every video, so like we'll take turns
Speaker 5: doing the voiceover and writing the scripts pretty much just
Speaker 5: like every other restaurant.
Speaker 2: Wow.
Speaker 4: Okay, so when did you Who's who bankrolled all this
Speaker 4: to begin with? Do you come from money? It sounds
Speaker 4: like you come from the suburbs of Philadelphia.
Speaker 3: Oh, no, we did not come from money at all.
Speaker 4: Really, yeah, it's giving, it's giving a little bit of
Speaker 4: money on the main line of a Philadelphia I'm excited
Speaker 4: to hear that it's not really you don't come.
Speaker 1: To money, not at all, like we honestly, like we
Speaker 1: started making more of our parents.
Speaker 3: We first started like no, yeah, like yo.
Speaker 2: Like you had a beat up car in high school.
Speaker 3: I didn't even have a car.
Speaker 4: Oh okay, Well, first of all, people should know that story.
Speaker 4: I think I don't feel like I feel like I should.
Speaker 4: Somehow in your videos have known that story. I think
Speaker 4: that's very uh, you know, because when I see the videos,
Speaker 4: you guys seem like two rich girls out like with
Speaker 4: a credit card getting meals.
Speaker 3: Oh I know, we really try to make it look
Speaker 3: that way.
Speaker 1: But no, we come from nothing, like honestly, we still
Speaker 1: like our hustling and making it like to make ends meet,
Speaker 1: like we because we pay for all of our reviews.
Speaker 1: So it is a struggle. Like for the first year
Speaker 1: I was working two jobs to try to finance the food.
Speaker 1: And literally everything we make is put back into the
Speaker 1: business and put back into the content.
Speaker 3: Like right now, like, we're definitely not rich.
Speaker 4: Yeah wow wow, okay, so you so when did you start?
Speaker 4: So how were you financing this?
Speaker 2: The whole way?
Speaker 3: We literally any money.
Speaker 5: I was working as a hostess in little Italy, but
Speaker 5: literally every dollar we made we put back into the business,
Speaker 5: like literally into content, into reviews. And then we started
Speaker 5: working with brands like pretty early on because we were like.
Speaker 3: We need to figure out a way to make this work.
Speaker 1: So we started social media management too, like we were
Speaker 1: like finding any way to make money.
Speaker 2: Smart.
Speaker 1: Yeah, we managed like three different restaurants social media to
Speaker 1: make it work.
Speaker 3: Once I left my job, we did restaurant consulting.
Speaker 5: Whatever the I don't know if it allowed us to
Speaker 5: do that, To think that we happened in that.
Speaker 2: Way, you could, you could. Wait, I think you could.
Speaker 2: You know your shit. Wait, but you don't do the
Speaker 2: social media management anymore.
Speaker 5: You can't.
Speaker 2: You don't have enough time.
Speaker 5: No, it's so time consuming, especially when you're trying to
Speaker 5: run your own page as well. It's like we just
Speaker 5: did not have the time for it. So we that
Speaker 5: ship sailed.
Speaker 4: Okay, So now you're supporting yourselves. Each of you can
Speaker 4: support yourselves in a good way, in a fine, way
Speaker 4: do you still feel like you're broke?
Speaker 2: Like what is it?
Speaker 5: I mean it has its ties and lows for sure,
Speaker 5: Like certain seasons like summer is a pretty slow season,
Speaker 5: and like the dead of winter is slow too.
Speaker 3: But then you'll get like a huge deal that.
Speaker 5: You kind of just like have to save up and
Speaker 5: just account for the times where you don't have like
Speaker 5: everything coming in at once because it's very inconsistent.
Speaker 4: Well first of all your advice to other people. But
Speaker 4: we can get there through what we're talking about. So
Speaker 4: you're unapologetic. So you, for example, you started to get
Speaker 4: adding more and more bitchy and like go cry about it,
Speaker 4: and you're a peasant. If you're a peasant. If you
Speaker 4: can't afford truffle carbonara, then you are a peasant and
Speaker 4: don't deserve to be in my I mean you really
Speaker 4: all the way and you must have when you were
Speaker 4: bridging that like that arc gotten a lot of hate.
Speaker 3: Oh we still get a lot of hate. Yeah, we
Speaker 3: get a lot.
Speaker 1: We get a lot of hate because we have had
Speaker 1: a lot of people, like people started making videos with
Speaker 1: Viatine talking Mary Antoinette, like because we're using the word peasant,
Speaker 1: Like people get really mad, But honestly, it's a joke
Speaker 1: and we now like play into it and try to
Speaker 1: make people as mad as possible because it upset our engagement.
Speaker 4: Yeah, so let's talk about the apps because for me
Speaker 4: the first time in the beginning, you guys, would you
Speaker 4: say that you have your primary residence and TikTok and
Speaker 4: you have a secondary residence on Instagram like you you
Speaker 4: live in TikTok.
Speaker 1: You like what I would say, we make more money
Speaker 1: off of Instagram, which is so.
Speaker 4: Weird from viewser from brand deals, from brand deals. Okay,
Speaker 4: well that is interesting and it's a different person. We
Speaker 4: can tell people who the different people are because I
Speaker 4: have my opinion and you of yours. I have a
Speaker 4: I have a residence that I've had in Instagram for years.
Speaker 2: That's a solid residence.
Speaker 4: But I have like a big, new money, flashy Cashi
Speaker 4: house and TikTok and understand that neighborhood really well, Like
Speaker 4: I vibe with that neighborhood very well.
Speaker 2: And it's my opinion.
Speaker 4: You guys can correct me or confirm my opinion is
Speaker 4: that TikTok is like really like it's a universe, it's
Speaker 4: a planet, and you have to really live in there
Speaker 4: to understand what the people are like, and you'll be
Speaker 4: friends with different types of aliens like in the Star
Speaker 4: Wars bar that like when people wouldn't think you're friends
Speaker 4: with and you genuinely respect them and vice versa.
Speaker 2: And it literally is a community.
Speaker 4: Instagram is more of like a department store that has
Speaker 4: different departments and different windows, and like you can really
Speaker 4: piss people off, and the moms live very deeply in
Speaker 4: Instagram and they will come for you for things that
Speaker 4: you would get away with on TikTok, having a sense
Speaker 4: of humor, Like Instagram is more like network television, and
Speaker 4: TikTok is like some you know, cable network that lets
Speaker 4: you get away with so much more.
Speaker 2: What do you think?
Speaker 3: I totally agree. I think TikTok's for oversharing.
Speaker 1: People put all their mental illness, all their unhinged over
Speaker 1: sharing stories on there. Where are Instagram It's all like, oh,
Speaker 1: I was on this boat the other day, I'm at
Speaker 1: this restaurant now, Like you don't really get a lot
Speaker 1: of personality from Instagram. With reels, it's getting there, but
Speaker 1: still TikTok is.
Speaker 2: Definitely it's a loony It's a looney bit.
Speaker 5: Yeah, we get hate on both though, Like we get
Speaker 5: hate in our Instagram dms, we get hate comments every
Speaker 5: day on TikTok.
Speaker 3: I think we get more hate on TikTok honestly.
Speaker 1: Yeah, Like I feel like for our Instagram following, it's
Speaker 1: a little bit like our demographics are a little bit older,
Speaker 1: so they understand our humor a little bit more, yeah,
Speaker 1: versus like TikTok. Like when we call someone a peasant
Speaker 1: or say someone's poor, they get so offended they actually
Speaker 1: get really mad.
Speaker 2: Okay, Well, two questions.
Speaker 4: One don't answer right away, but one is do brands
Speaker 4: fully get it? Or do you turn off some brands
Speaker 4: because they're scaredy cats? And two, I would say it
Speaker 4: takes a lot.
Speaker 2: It took me.
Speaker 4: I'm much older than you, and I realized when I
Speaker 4: did the Rachel Levis interview and the views were blowing
Speaker 4: up everywhere. I was being trashed on five hundred accounts
Speaker 4: and I didn't know I was in the upside down
Speaker 4: because I thought it was bad. But the trolls are good.
Speaker 4: There are entire pages about hating me. To your point,
Speaker 4: and like, it was a little rocky in my mind
Speaker 4: because it's non traditional, like it almost. TikTok was the
Speaker 4: first place that for me ever confirmed all press is
Speaker 4: good press, including bad, because I used to really not
Speaker 4: believe that, but now, because the world has so much content,
Speaker 4: if they're hating, they're really watching. And that's the Howard
Speaker 4: Stern model. Howard Stern. There was a part in that
Speaker 4: movie Private Parts where they were saying that he's getting
Speaker 4: their good death threats and the stations want to shut
Speaker 4: him down and whatever, but they did, they got data
Speaker 4: and the people that hated him were watching twice as long.
Speaker 3: Exactly. The haters make you famous. That's a fact.
Speaker 2: Okay, so so true. We have a lot of those.
Speaker 5: I feel like we have a lot of people who
Speaker 5: hate watch our content and who don't even follow us.
Speaker 5: Like a lot of people will literally just like see
Speaker 5: our videos in common het and like they're commenting on
Speaker 5: multiple videos, but a lot of them don't follow us.
Speaker 1: And people even meet us in person and they're like,
Speaker 1: I hate you, but I still want to say hi.
Speaker 1: We're like, okay, well I agree.
Speaker 2: On Housewives.
Speaker 4: The thing was if you love, if you love to
Speaker 4: love and you love to hate, it's good. If you
Speaker 4: hate to hate, it's bad because it's like toxic for you.
Speaker 4: If you hate to hate something, it's bad. It's like
Speaker 4: when when a Housewives show goes like dirty and bad
Speaker 4: and it's like you feel gross watching. But when you
Speaker 4: love to hate, it's like a good villain. It's like
Speaker 4: a good you know, Dynasty villain or some show. So
Speaker 4: I think that you guys have captured that, but you
Speaker 4: double down. And this is where I really saw it.
Speaker 4: So you guys talked about a restaurant in the Hampton's
Speaker 4: y Mavericks, which is definitely your biggest fame moment that
Speaker 4: you've had, like mainstream media fame. Yes, And and because
Speaker 4: I know even like you know, my friend Steve co
Speaker 4: and his wife Alex Uh, you know, they own the
Speaker 4: Mets and they're you know, billionaires. And she said to me,
Speaker 4: oh yeah about those girls, you know, like she read
Speaker 4: about it because it was in the post. So you're
Speaker 4: famous in that way. And what I thought was interesting
Speaker 4: was you guys are young girls. This is like an
Speaker 4: you know, a restaurant, and they took the bait, which
Speaker 4: was stupid. They draw drew more attention to it. No
Speaker 4: one would have.
Speaker 2: Even known, Like they don't need to make a.
Speaker 4: Comment about you two TikTok girls respectfully, they don't need
Speaker 4: to make a comment, you know what I mean, Like even.
Speaker 1: You were with you the next day, Like we went
Speaker 1: to Mavericks night before. Remember we told you we had
Speaker 1: a really expensive dinner at the DSW.
Speaker 3: Yeah.
Speaker 4: Then so they took the bait, which is the dumbest thing,
Speaker 4: because I'll tell you that this is a lesson in media.
Speaker 4: So I have a friend who's very famous and was
Speaker 4: on and is a very successful person, you know, made
Speaker 4: like millions and millions of dollars a year on TV.
Speaker 4: And he called me the other day and he goes,
Speaker 4: I need your advice, and he said, I'm being killed
Speaker 4: for this thing that I said, and it got a
Speaker 4: million views on TikTok. I'm like, first of it's not
Speaker 4: even that meant, don't worry about it. And he's like,
Speaker 4: and it's like now everywhere and it was in the post.
Speaker 4: I'm like, Okay, where's the story. He's like, so should
Speaker 4: I say something? Go what are you trying? It didn't
Speaker 4: even happen. It didn't even happen. Like it didn't happen.
Speaker 3: Trust me.
Speaker 4: It's like poison in the ocean, Like it's gonna get
Speaker 4: I go, I've been five things by eight o'clock this morning,
Speaker 4: I have.
Speaker 2: Literally my day.
Speaker 4: When I ate my I'm canceled five things by not
Speaker 4: literally by eight o'clock this morning, I could read five
Speaker 4: articles about myself. And he goes, well, that's why I
Speaker 4: called you. I go, yeah, it didn't happen. I'll watch it.
Speaker 4: It's a set of waves. If it turns into a tsunami,
Speaker 4: i'll let you know. But like, it didn't happen, And
Speaker 4: he calls me the next day he's like, holy shit,
Speaker 4: it didn't I'm like, yeah, it didn't happen. But that
Speaker 4: guy from Mavericks, they made a quote comment about it.
Speaker 4: They did with this famous actor, asked my opinion about
Speaker 4: and they took the bait. But then you guys got
Speaker 4: to comment back, and instead of like you getting nervous,
Speaker 4: you doubled down.
Speaker 2: You said go cry about it?
Speaker 3: Yes, who said that?
Speaker 2: Who said that? Who said go cry about it?
Speaker 1: We wrote an official statement because all these tabloids were
Speaker 1: reaching out and they were making up lives saying we
Speaker 1: blackmailed them. Like, first of all, we went with our
Speaker 1: very rich friend who was paying for all of us.
Speaker 3: We didn't need free food. We didn't ask for ReFood,
Speaker 3: We didn't tell them we were there. They said, we
Speaker 3: poured a seafood tower on it ourselves, which why would
Speaker 3: we why would we do that? Do that right?
Speaker 1: And we just thought that was the best response.
Speaker 5: Yeah, we were like, this is a perfect moment to
Speaker 5: use our tagline. And also like once they did that
Speaker 5: and went to the press about it, the video went
Speaker 5: even more viral, Like we were getting so many comments
Speaker 5: of people crying from all the different articles.
Speaker 1: So they were accountability on their ends, Like, not once
Speaker 1: did they take accountability for our bad experience. They just
Speaker 1: tried to lie and make up like kind of discredit
Speaker 1: our experience.
Speaker 2: That's why you leaned further in.
Speaker 4: Had they said, you know what, we're new, We're sorry
Speaker 4: they had an unfortunate experience. We'd like to invite there's
Speaker 4: a couple of lessons here. Had they said we're sorry
Speaker 4: for this unfortunate experience, we'd like to invite them back
Speaker 4: in Yes, and you know we're so, you would have doubled,
Speaker 4: You would have backed down. You had said this is amazing,
Speaker 4: thank you, it's a beautiful restaurant. You would have done
Speaker 4: what you did a topp and rose. You would have
Speaker 4: done that because you would have been like yeah, but
Speaker 4: they doubled down, and you doubled down.
Speaker 3: Yeah, and they just lied, they blatantly lied.
Speaker 5: So we're like, okay, like pull up their seats, show
Speaker 5: us the video footage of us pushing the tower and
Speaker 5: blackmailing the waiter. And they never did because it didn't act.
Speaker 4: It's giving Chanel where I It wasn't about the crime
Speaker 4: in the town. Of course, I understand if you want
Speaker 4: to give me what you want to say, you need
Speaker 4: an appointment. It was the way I was spoken to
Speaker 4: at the front door, which made me feel like a peasant,
Speaker 4: and I did go cry about it in humor, and
Speaker 4: Chanelle tripled down double. You know, now I'm synonymous with
Speaker 4: the brand Chanel. Now I'm cutting out seas from other
Speaker 4: bags and gluing them on fucking Raffia at nineteen dollars
Speaker 4: DSW bags because now reach out they now you can't
Speaker 4: leave now now now it's sucking anybody's game, like literally, like,
Speaker 4: but I wore a Frauda bag yesterday. I took a
Speaker 4: Raffia DSW bag from that event. I took a prad
Speaker 4: to try and go glued it on, wore it out
Speaker 4: with you know, one hundred thousand dollars in jewelry.
Speaker 2: Who gives a fuck?
Speaker 3: Now?
Speaker 4: Now you can't leave now Now Now I'm cutting out
Speaker 4: seas and putting them on all dough heels. Now I'm
Speaker 4: in Steve Madden. Everyone can fuck right off. I can
Speaker 4: afford any bag I want. Now I'm using crayons on
Speaker 4: my arms bags like now, it's a fucking free period period. Yeah,
Speaker 4: game over the game, the my it's my opinion. The
Speaker 4: luxury game is going to take a crash.
Speaker 3: No, it's crazy and the quality has gone down.
Speaker 1: Like I got anel bag two years ago and it's
Speaker 1: rusted just from wearing it in the rain a few times.
Speaker 3: Like listen, it gets taken by crazy on Canal Street,
Speaker 3: Like on Canal Street.
Speaker 2: Through you like these things, swarm, find out what it's worth.
Speaker 4: If it's worth a couple of hundred dollars, cut those
Speaker 4: seas at gloom on something else color and make it
Speaker 4: into something go cry about it.
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, I love it. If the announced series come in,
Speaker 3: I'm here.
Speaker 2: And now can go so worry about it.
Speaker 4: Do you have someone who advises you or is it
Speaker 4: the two of you advising each other when these things happen.
Speaker 3: So we had our managers, Emily and Elena.
Speaker 1: They helped so much stright now, like they helped us
Speaker 1: write a whole press release and stuff, because like, honestly,
Speaker 1: us clapping back, we were gonna say like way more
Speaker 1: like unhinged things.
Speaker 3: Like we didn't really we want to come for them. Yeah, no, no, no,
Speaker 3: that wasn't the way.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 3: They they really helped us.
Speaker 2: That's what we call overplaying our hand.
Speaker 1: Yeah, so it was good to have someone in our
Speaker 1: corner being like, no, this is what you have to say.
Speaker 1: You have some professional and do it right. And I
Speaker 1: feel like, honestly the clapback was perfect.
Speaker 4: But did it make you realize that there are always
Speaker 4: gonna be wolves at the end of the bed. You
Speaker 4: can't drink your own kool aid, can't believe your own bullshit.
Speaker 4: You got to like take the temperature. You have to
Speaker 4: hold the wheel not too tight, but not let go
Speaker 4: of the wheel when things go sideways, because in any
Speaker 4: situation like that, it can go sideways.
Speaker 3: Yeah.
Speaker 5: Absolutely, And I feel like they really helped us just
Speaker 5: come up with the perfect like response that made us
Speaker 5: sound just like respectable and like not not too unhinged.
Speaker 3: But also just like yeah, and people, are you are
Speaker 3: you not going to.
Speaker 1: Roast restaurants anymore? Like are you canceled now? But I
Speaker 1: feel like we're always gonna be honest, Like if we
Speaker 1: had a bad experience, we had a bad experience, and
Speaker 1: I'm not afraid to say that at any restaurant, Like
Speaker 1: it's like you're allowed to speak your mind. And I
Speaker 1: feel like like nowadays, people are really scared to say
Speaker 1: what they think.
Speaker 3: So if we have to do it, we will.
Speaker 1: And yes, to answer your first question, it does affect brands,
Speaker 1: like a lot of brands like are scared to work
Speaker 1: with us because how unhinged we are. But we'd also
Speaker 1: drive traffic, Like when we post a restaurant, a lot
Speaker 1: of people are going to those restaurants for a recommendation.
Speaker 3: People even went to Mavericks to see.
Speaker 2: If yeah we hate watching hate yeah.
Speaker 1: So you know, like we definitely do have an ROI
Speaker 1: of some sorts. Just frends need to start like peeping that.
Speaker 2: So what about.
Speaker 4: Top five worst meals, top five best or top three
Speaker 4: if it's easy.
Speaker 3: Oh worst, okay, and Mavericks is number one, And just
Speaker 3: because the whole yeah, the whole experience was horrible, Bad Roman,
Speaker 3: Bad Roman. I wouldn't put Mad Roman number two.
Speaker 1: I put like the Smith at number two, just because
Speaker 1: the food was actually inedible, like.
Speaker 2: Smith like s M Y t HG the hotel, or
Speaker 2: the Smith like in West Village.
Speaker 1: Like the Smith in Nomad, like s M I T
Speaker 1: h by the Sackler family.
Speaker 2: The yeah, what was and what was soboud?
Speaker 3: The lotto role came straight out of the Hudson River.
Speaker 3: It literally tasted like that.
Speaker 1: The burger was soggy, horrible service, just nothing tasted good,
Speaker 1: just overall a bad experience.
Speaker 4: And again it's channel, So shouldn't they reached out and
Speaker 4: been like, let's like take the take the note. Let's
Speaker 4: take the note. I went last week to a restaurant
Speaker 4: and you know what, I lost the footage, which is
Speaker 4: annoying because the food was crap in the Hampton's and
Speaker 4: I was going to just do it, but I didn't
Speaker 4: have the footage, and I it was so savage that
Speaker 4: I was I don't want to say I was nervous.
Speaker 4: I just they were smart. The maitre d like reached
Speaker 4: out to me because they wanted to give me a
Speaker 4: table for this concert days later, and I started to
Speaker 4: feel a little guilty because I was like, do I
Speaker 4: need to just fucking put this guy in the ground
Speaker 4: right now? And it wasn't really him, but nobody was
Speaker 4: there minding the restaurant, and aren't we meeting you? And
Speaker 4: I for the people, it's about the people coming out
Speaker 4: here that want to have an experience and they're going
Speaker 4: to go spend their money on this shit meal you
Speaker 4: know where if you're saying Mavericks and I'm saying this place.
Speaker 1: Exactly, that's why we do it. But people are like,
Speaker 1: don't you feel bad? Yeah, like, don't you feel bad
Speaker 1: roasting a restaurant? But it's like, I feel bad for
Speaker 1: our followers. We're plulling up to a meal and paying
Speaker 1: two thousand dollars not getting what they want.
Speaker 4: I feel bad for fifty dollars. I feel offended when
Speaker 4: I have a bad meal. Offended, Like I get angry.
Speaker 4: I'm like, I wasted a meal. It's like wasting an
Speaker 4: outfit with a bad date exactly.
Speaker 5: Yeah, And especially for our followers who are like using
Speaker 5: our recommendations for that one day a year, like that's
Speaker 5: worth say, when they're going out for a celebration and
Speaker 5: it's like no, that's why we do it, like for those.
Speaker 2: People, That's what I'm saying.
Speaker 4: Okay, So so Smith didn't reach out dumb on them.
Speaker 2: So you got two, what's three bad?
Speaker 3: I hate to say.
Speaker 1: I don't want to hate from the Lady Gaga fan base,
Speaker 1: but her family's restaurant was was your bands.
Speaker 4: I went there once and I love Gaga, but the
Speaker 4: restaurant wasn't good either. It was we went there in
Speaker 4: the Housewives. Yeah, well, because it's not her restaurant's and
Speaker 4: that doesn't mean her restaurant be good either. I mean
Speaker 4: it's not her makeup line, she's not invested in. It's
Speaker 4: somebody in her family. Yeah, so that you can't hang
Speaker 4: in New York City. If you can't hang like, it's
Speaker 4: serious there.
Speaker 1: And that's why we also don't feel bad because it's like,
Speaker 1: if you're going to be prding, these prices come correct,
Speaker 1: Like if you're opening a restaurant in New York City,
Speaker 1: it has to be good or else you're not gonna last.
Speaker 4: Like it's not simple, it's the most hard, it's the
Speaker 4: most difficult business. And the fact that this Greek place
Speaker 4: here in the Hamptons didn't have anybody there that was
Speaker 4: a grown up like managing the place.
Speaker 5: Yeah.
Speaker 1: When Yeah, because hospitality can also like make a break
Speaker 1: and any experience as well, like if it's like a
Speaker 1: horrible time, but they're actually like taking accountability and being nice,
Speaker 1: maybe offering like a free dessert or something for your trouble,
Speaker 1: like that always helps.
Speaker 4: I feel like, right, okay, so what about I'll tell
Speaker 4: you it was annoying that happened to me. I went
Speaker 4: to a restaurant out here that I literally raved about.
Speaker 4: So the owner sends me some stuff, but they wanted
Speaker 4: to promote some stuff. They had like a product line
Speaker 4: right to my house. Okay, so now I've got like
Speaker 4: which I get stuff you could imagine all the time.
Speaker 4: So I went back in there and they were kind
Speaker 4: of like over being at my table and talking and
Speaker 4: doting and like pushing desserts and all these things. And
Speaker 4: Britain was like, I feel like we're working, and I
Speaker 4: believe that they should have covered my bill because it
Speaker 4: didn't feel like a normal meal, Like I felt like
Speaker 4: I was like I had to sift wait for the
Speaker 4: dessert because I.
Speaker 2: Knew I was filming.
Speaker 4: Like I didn't like the feeling because it was like
Speaker 4: I want to come in here as Jen Pop and
Speaker 4: just pay for my bill and not have anybody up
Speaker 4: my ass. Yeah, or I want you to pay for
Speaker 4: my bill and then you're up my ass, Like I
Speaker 4: don't want to do a mixture of both that make
Speaker 4: any sense.
Speaker 3: Yeah, totally.
Speaker 5: Yeah.
Speaker 3: So they were on your dick and getting a compet.
Speaker 4: Right, if you're gonna be on my dick, you're gonna pay.
Speaker 4: You're gonna pay me to be on my dick.
Speaker 3: Yeah.
Speaker 5: No, I totally agree with that because it changes the
Speaker 5: entire experience. I know, they're like watching you the whole time.
Speaker 2: One hundred and it was like Kai and how is
Speaker 2: it is?
Speaker 4: Three people? And it was like, leave me the fuck alone,
Speaker 4: or pay for my bill. If I'm working, I'm working.
Speaker 4: It's like I'm a hooker, I'm a hooker. If I'm
Speaker 4: a civilian, I'm a civilian. I really don't need to
Speaker 4: like blow you and also pay for my meal.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 1: That's what I don't like, because they'll come around with
Speaker 1: these things they film this film and I'm like, no,
Speaker 1: like are like, it's like, even.
Speaker 3: If you're giving it for a free, you should be
Speaker 3: paying me to do this. No.
Speaker 2: Ken Restaurants know, a free dessert does not count. We
Speaker 2: don't care.
Speaker 4: Yeah, a free dessert or someone sent over a drink,
Speaker 4: I mean out of water that that doesn't count.
Speaker 3: You don't.
Speaker 4: It's not a Maya kopa. You sent me a drink
Speaker 4: and you gave me a free dessert. You want to
Speaker 4: sleep together, I'd like the whole airmes bag and the
Speaker 4: trip and the carts and from I really don't need. Yeah,
Speaker 4: I don't need a half fudge Sunday and I'm gonna like,
Speaker 4: you're gonna have all my you know, all my attention.
Speaker 3: Literally, that's so true.
Speaker 4: Right, So that was worse three? What were best three?
Speaker 4: And this is New York City? We could do the
Speaker 4: Hamptons if you want.
Speaker 2: What were Yeah?
Speaker 1: Poor Child is probably my favorite. Poor Chile's probably my
Speaker 1: favorite restaurant to go to. It's like impossible to get in,
Speaker 1: so maybe that affects how how did it taste?
Speaker 3: But it's still the best burger I've ever had.
Speaker 4: Like I need to go, and I have to go
Speaker 4: buy it on that reservation site because I always decided
Speaker 4: last minute, and I'm gonna I'll go at five o'clock,
Speaker 4: but I heard it's open at lunch too.
Speaker 1: No, I don't know if it's open at lunch, but
Speaker 1: I do know that you can get the burger for takeout.
Speaker 3: Yea take on that. It was seventy dollars and it
Speaker 3: honestly was worth it.
Speaker 4: Wow, all right, I'm doing that next time with Brin.
Speaker 4: So that's your number one. What's your number two?
Speaker 3: I would say Terese or Jean George.
Speaker 5: I was gonna say just for the overall experience too,
Speaker 5: Like the food is amazing, the hospitality is amazing, and
Speaker 5: you can just tell that everyone who works the genuinely
Speaker 5: loves their job and like wants to be there, which
Speaker 5: makes such a difference because if the staff is miserable,
Speaker 5: it just changes the whole vibe you're talking about.
Speaker 4: I saw you post about there was like foam and
Speaker 4: interesting things, and it was on the Upper East Side.
Speaker 2: You're talking about like sixties that right outside.
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, yeah, the flagship Jean George.
Speaker 2: Okay, So I have news for you.
Speaker 4: This is a good business piece of advice and just
Speaker 4: information for people. So you're saying that gen George was good.
Speaker 4: So the Jean George restaurant, you guys posted nicely about
Speaker 4: Topping Rows, but I think they saw you coming and
Speaker 4: topping Roase is good. I'm not going to say it's amazing.
Speaker 4: I'll say it's a solid seven. It's a New York.
Speaker 1: City Hampton's, though, I feel like, but it's definitely one
Speaker 1: of the top ones.
Speaker 4: I'll tell you the top ones. And it's a Hampton's.
Speaker 4: Maybe it's a seven to seventy five for the Hampton's
Speaker 4: and New York City be a seven. But John George's
Speaker 4: restaurant and Pound Ridge is inedible. It's like bad gay. Yeah,
Speaker 4: but what's the restaurant. It's called the Inn a pound
Speaker 4: Ridge because it's just got his name stamped on, and
Speaker 4: people need to be mindful of name stamped doesn't mean
Speaker 4: it's the same as the original. So you could be
Speaker 4: in a Vegas version of the New York City one
Speaker 4: and it might not be as good in restaurants, so
Speaker 4: people have to know the location. So you're talking about
Speaker 4: the flagship location of Jean George.
Speaker 3: Yeah, like the original.
Speaker 1: Yeah, like his brother runs the whole like his brother,
Speaker 1: his brother like the whole runs the whole ship there, like,
Speaker 1: and he's there a lot too, and every dishes are
Speaker 1: like they have the most gorgeous caviar salad it's like
Speaker 1: a lettuce flower and like there's caviar eggs in each crevice,
Speaker 1: Like it's crazy.
Speaker 2: Have you done Petrosian yet?
Speaker 3: Well, we've had Petrosian, but I haven't gone. I didn't
Speaker 3: know they have a plot.
Speaker 2: No, you too have to go to the experience and
Speaker 2: tell them.
Speaker 4: I saying you, no, they do like the tr they
Speaker 4: do the truffle scrambled egg and they do this amazing,
Speaker 4: Like my, they just go there, just go there, go
Speaker 4: cry about it. It's really and it's the experience, and
Speaker 4: it's the most beautiful restaurant, like if your moms are
Speaker 4: in town or if you're doing something girly, like, it's
Speaker 4: a beautiful and it's an experience.
Speaker 2: So it's like what you're describing me.
Speaker 3: To go that's incredible.
Speaker 1: And speaking of horrible place, is the caviar casts me
Speaker 1: at the Mark.
Speaker 3: Is one of the worst meals we've had as well.
Speaker 2: That's a good one to say because.
Speaker 3: It's so bad.
Speaker 1: It was like twelve hundred dollars a person and they
Speaker 1: served it with wonderbread toast and I.
Speaker 2: Was paying the twelve hundred dollars. When you guys are
Speaker 2: going there.
Speaker 6: That brand that week, like we like when when we
Speaker 6: like we get a really big brand deal, like we'll
Speaker 6: splurt just because like that place had so much type
Speaker 6: when it opened, and we're like, Okay, this is worth.
Speaker 1: The investment because like it's gonna get this many views
Speaker 1: because this many people are talking.
Speaker 2: About and did it yeah yeah, yeah, it got like.
Speaker 3: A million views.
Speaker 2: Yeah okay