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Speaker 4: It is the top of the week, and you know
Speaker 4: what that means. Fellow conspiracy realist, It is time for
Speaker 4: some strange news. We're gonna learn a little bit about
Speaker 4: a real life Yogi bear at the end, just as
Speaker 4: a palate cleanser. It turns out the newest jet stealth
Speaker 4: technology is pretty good, and we're going to investigate something
Speaker 4: that has disturbed all of us, I think over in
Speaker 4: Los Angeles. Before we do any of that, we're going
Speaker 4: to we're going to tell you a story that it
Speaker 4: appears the West would rather you not know. We were
Speaker 4: talking about this a little bit off air because we
Speaker 4: do continually text each other. Weren't a very strange romance.
Speaker 4: So so you guys ever heard of Armenia?
Speaker 5: You know, Ben I mentioned this in our group texts.
Speaker 5: I'm going to go ahead and cop to it. Everything
Speaker 5: I've learned about the political struggles in Armenia I learned
Speaker 5: from the band system of a.
Speaker 2: Down AH great band.
Speaker 5: Ye are a great band, one of the few bands
Speaker 5: of that air that hold up, and they are Armenian
Speaker 5: and a lot of their song lyrics are about some
Speaker 5: of the genocide in Armenia and things like that in
Speaker 5: the past.
Speaker 3: But I'm sadly not up to speed.
Speaker 2: Well. Back in twenty fifteen, NOL, just before you officially
Speaker 2: came on, we did an episode on genocide, specifically focusing
Speaker 2: on AH might say it wrong, meds Jeggern Jergen. I
Speaker 2: don't know how to say it correctly. I apologize everyone
Speaker 2: quote the great evil crime of the Armenian genocide. And
Speaker 2: that's when. That's the only time I've really spent a
Speaker 2: lot of time in that headspace. I guess learning about
Speaker 2: the country and the politics.
Speaker 4: What's happening now is not being widely reported, perhaps with
Speaker 4: the same level of diligence that you will read in
Speaker 4: terms of Western reporting on the Ukrainian conflict with Russia.
Speaker 4: Here's what you need to know, folks. Quite recently, the
Speaker 4: nation of Azerbaijan. It's kind of like the peak best
Speaker 4: of the stands. I'm doing Beatles jokes inappropriately. Azerbaijan has
Speaker 4: attacked an enclave of Armenia. And while this is happening,
Speaker 4: they are committing war crimes. They are using state level
Speaker 4: military tactics against civilians. Turkey is refusing to help Turkey,
Speaker 4: of course, being the number one fanboys of eliminating all
Speaker 4: Armenian people. The Armenian genocide to which you refer Matt
Speaker 4: occurred in nineteen fifteen. Nineteen sixteen, but again history is
Speaker 4: way closer than it looks in the rear view mirror.
Speaker 4: More than a million people probably died, executed civilians, and
Speaker 4: this was a genocide. I really appreciate you pointing out
Speaker 4: our earlier episode on genocide, because we know, we know
Speaker 4: the word itself gets a bit legalistic, right, and some
Speaker 4: people feel that they own the phrase genocide.
Speaker 5: Well, it's like also a phrase that maybe maybe I'm wrong.
Speaker 5: Is there a spectrum within which the term genocide exists
Speaker 5: or is it referring to something very specific?
Speaker 4: That's the debate you will have often at the United
Speaker 4: Nations right, and in criminal courts around the world. No
Speaker 4: country wants to be identified as a perpetrator of genocide.
Speaker 4: And we might lose our ability to enter Turkey for
Speaker 4: saying this. The nation of Turkey, but not the people
Speaker 4: of Turkey. The government of Turkey has been attempting to
Speaker 4: erase the existence of Armenia for quite some time, for
Speaker 4: more than a century now, if not earlier. And here's
Speaker 4: what happened. So if you look at a map, if
Speaker 4: you pull up a map of Azerbaijan and Armenia, and
Speaker 4: you'll see that they are neighbors. To the north of
Speaker 4: them is Georgia. And Georgia as a country is I'm
Speaker 4: gonna be honest, it's a little bit cooler than Georgia,
Speaker 4: the state in the US. And then there's Russia right
Speaker 4: right to the northeast. Armenia shares a border with Turkey
Speaker 4: and Iran. In the old days of the USSR, due
Speaker 4: entirely to geography, Armenia was a Soviet state, and when
Speaker 4: the USSR fell toward what the West calls the end
Speaker 4: of the Cold War, they retained security agreements. The Federated
Speaker 4: States of Russia said, look, we had a good run.
Speaker 4: You know, Azerbaijan, Georgia, Armenia, et cetera. All the stands,
Speaker 4: but we will maintain security agreements. Uncle Sam has done
Speaker 4: little to nothing to protect Armenian civilians from attacks. And
Speaker 4: as as we were talking about, because we're super fun
Speaker 4: in our group text, as we're as we were talking
Speaker 4: about earlier geography decides all, hang.
Speaker 3: On, oh, let's keep this, let's keep this in.
Speaker 4: I got a cat scratching these things.
Speaker 2: Well, hey, while you're while you're dealing with that, Ben,
Speaker 2: I just wanted to back you up on that point
Speaker 2: about how the US hasn't really done anything. I was
Speaker 2: recalling as you were talking about that back in twenty
Speaker 2: twenty one, the current president, Joe Biden, President of the
Speaker 2: United States, he had made a campaign promise to recognize
Speaker 2: the Armenian genocide, and it was made public in twenty
Speaker 2: twenty one that he was going to come forward and
Speaker 2: you know, and it's so weird with diplomacy. He was
Speaker 2: just going to say out loud at a podium that
Speaker 2: the United States recognizes the genocide around you know that
Speaker 2: that April date when it's recognized and just recognized. Yeah,
Speaker 2: just any but Turkey came forward. It was basically like, hey,
Speaker 2: you really shouldn't. You shouldn't do that. It's really going
Speaker 2: to harm ties with Turkey, so you really shouldn't. But
Speaker 2: he did it anyway, So I mean, it's again, it's
Speaker 2: not doing anything, but it's crazy that just recognizing it
Speaker 2: is such a big diplomatic move one way or the other.
Speaker 4: Right, similar to to one and China, perhaps similar to
Speaker 4: some other things closer to home, folks, We would love
Speaker 4: to hear your opinion. This is what's happening now. As
Speaker 4: the West was reporting on Ukraine. As the West was
Speaker 4: talking about I don't know whatever is happening with celebrities.
Speaker 4: The Russian Empire and its current state fell, and when
Speaker 4: in any empire falls, it's a lot like a whale
Speaker 4: sinking to the bottom of the seafloor. Skavs appear Armenia
Speaker 4: had a security agreement with a state that can no
Speaker 4: longer support that agreement. At the same time, on the
Speaker 4: chess board, the nation of Turkey has joined NATO. NATO
Speaker 4: is a tricky group project. If you're in NATO and
Speaker 4: you say nah, don't do it, then everybody else in
Speaker 4: NATO will have to say a this guy doesn't want it,
Speaker 4: so NATO and therefore the United States are likely not
Speaker 4: going to help again these innocent people. The issue is
Speaker 4: here that it's like if you bought insurance or you
Speaker 4: invested in stocks for a company that no longer exists,
Speaker 4: how will you how will you retain that investment? That's
Speaker 4: the question.
Speaker 3: Now.
Speaker 4: Azerbaijan is a country that, in full disclosure, those of
Speaker 4: us on the show today would have a hard time visiting.
Speaker 4: We could get in, but getting out becomes a different conversation,
Speaker 4: primarily due to the proximity of Iran and Armenian. Now
Speaker 4: as we're recording, there's a ceasefire broker by ostensibly the
Speaker 4: Russian government, but that ceasefire is probably not going to
Speaker 4: hold because what Azerbaijan is attacking is an enclave of
Speaker 4: Armenian people and Armenian against civilian population in a place
Speaker 4: called Nigrno Karabakh no Gorno karabak Is. It's weird if
Speaker 4: you look at a map because it's outside of the
Speaker 4: legal borders of Armenia, but the people living there they're
Speaker 4: all Armenian. And Azerbaijan was kind of like a bad
Speaker 4: dog when Russia held the leash and Russia has its
Speaker 4: own thing to fry. So to be clear, to your point,
Speaker 4: nol system of a down, absolutely right. I don't care
Speaker 4: how people feel about math rock. First off, they are
Speaker 4: good at math rock. But secondly they are right in
Speaker 4: that the West is ignoring war crimes against civilians. I
Speaker 4: don't know, maybe the West wants us blissfully ignorant. What
Speaker 4: do you guys think?
Speaker 5: Is this in some way a continuation of the war
Speaker 5: crimes of the past. Again, I wasn't in on that episode.
Speaker 5: I am woefully underschooled. Can you kind of give us
Speaker 5: a little bit more context?
Speaker 3: Maybe? Yes?
Speaker 4: Sure, So, first thing, we all must acknowledge geography determined civilizations.
Speaker 4: Azerbaijan has the coast of the Casbian Sea, and to
Speaker 4: the west of Azerbaijan is Armenia, sandwiched between Azerbaijan and
Speaker 4: Turkyer and to the south by Irad. We're keeping Georgia
Speaker 4: out of the conversation because they might be in the
Speaker 4: same boat later if this chaos continues. This to be clear,
Speaker 4: this is a future episode and we're just giving a
Speaker 4: quick primer here. There is no shame, no judgment, no condescension.
Speaker 4: During World War One, the Ottoman Empire, which is like
Speaker 4: the For conservative Turkish politicians, it's like the Confederacy, but
Speaker 4: way longer and way more successful. During World War One,
Speaker 4: the Ottoman Empire sought to systematically destroy Armenia as a nation,
Speaker 4: as a concept, and as a people.
Speaker 2: This is true.
Speaker 4: Doesn't matter if this gets us in trouble with the
Speaker 4: leaders of Turkey. It is simply factual. They tried to
Speaker 4: kill every Armenian person and the issues there After World
Speaker 4: War One, of course, the Ottoman Empire, which honestly always
Speaker 4: kind of sucked it fell and the USSR came into being,
Speaker 4: became a global power, became a hedgemon and started to
Speaker 4: take control of anything within its sphere of influence. And
Speaker 4: that counts all the stands, that counts all of like
Speaker 4: the Georgias, the Eastern europe countries, Eastern European countries that
Speaker 4: counts Armenia, and Armenia was for a time tacitly protected.
Speaker 4: Armenia due to geography, could not ever crack a deal
Speaker 4: with NATO or the US. And when Russia fell, and
Speaker 4: Russia is a collapse state now, folks. When Russia fell,
Speaker 4: the government of Azerbaijan in cooperation with the government of
Speaker 4: Turkey conspired and does conspire to erase these people. It's
Speaker 4: always been the genocide question that that is the ultimate aim.
Speaker 4: If we could, we would love to ask for your help.
Speaker 4: Fellow conspiracy realist one eight three three STDWYTK conspiracy Diheartradio
Speaker 4: dot com. Want to end this segment with a message
Speaker 4: from an Armenian contact of ours who is outside of
Speaker 4: the country. We have changed some of the specifics in
Speaker 4: the interest of protecting the innocent. Here it is Armenians
Speaker 4: are seeing their worst nightmare come true. Every single one
Speaker 4: of us was raised with stories of the horrors of
Speaker 4: the Armenian genocide. My namesake, my great grandmother, hid under
Speaker 4: dead bodies while her family was slaughtered. The person writing
Speaker 4: to us, by the way, is about the same age
Speaker 4: as you, if you're listening to the show. She and
Speaker 4: her sister survived, but their losses mark them forever. Like
Speaker 4: in many traditional families, my great grandmother and grandparents lived
Speaker 4: with my parents and siblings, all under one roof. My
Speaker 4: grandmother died only speaking Turkish, having lost her mother tongue.
Speaker 4: I was raised by a family very active in passing
Speaker 4: legislation commemorating the Armenian genocide in the United States, we
Speaker 4: skip school every year on April twenty fourth to gather
Speaker 4: at city Hall never again. We said, well, make no
Speaker 4: mistake that what is happening now is Erdigon, the leader
Speaker 4: of Turkey and Aliev taking care of unfinished business. To them,
Speaker 4: we are only sub human pest in the way of
Speaker 4: a united Turkish Empire. Children in Azerbaijan are taught this
Speaker 4: in grade school.
Speaker 2: Heavy.
Speaker 5: Yeah, that's super heavy, just to grow up kind of
Speaker 5: in the shadow of that, you know, the specter of that,
Speaker 5: kind of it.
Speaker 3: Just feels like you wouldn't be able to feel truly safe.
Speaker 2: It makes me realize how disconnected I am personally from
Speaker 2: that part of the world. News coming out of that
Speaker 2: part of the world, culturally, that part of the world,
Speaker 2: everywhere around there. I didn't realize that last year in
Speaker 2: twenty twenty two, Turkey went to the UN and changed
Speaker 2: the spelling of the name of the Republic of Turkey.
Speaker 2: Then you were pronouncing it a little differently than I
Speaker 2: had heard before, and I was like, oh, oh, that's why,
Speaker 2: cause I looked at a map for the first time
Speaker 2: and looked at Turkey for the first time, and I
Speaker 2: don't know when maybe since that twenty fifteen episode, and
Speaker 2: I was just like, again, the disconnect is so strong.
Speaker 2: It makes me really sad listening to that message.
Speaker 4: You know why they changed the name Matt No true story.
Speaker 4: They got pissed about how turkey in English is a
Speaker 4: description of a somewhat dickish, flightless bird. They're mad about turkeys,
Speaker 4: just like us.
Speaker 3: We talked about that's so funny, That is so funny.
Speaker 4: That was their thing. Yeah, yeah, So we are going
Speaker 4: to hopefully do an episode on this in the future.
Speaker 4: If you are listening in that part of the world,
Speaker 4: if you have loved ones in that part of the world,
Speaker 4: tell us your stories. We cannot emphasize this enough. It
Speaker 4: is easy, in a world of ubiquitous communication and constant headlines,
Speaker 4: it is devilishly and damnably easy to forget that the
Speaker 4: world exists and other things are happening there. So help
Speaker 4: us spread the word, help us learn more, Take us
Speaker 4: to the edge of the rabbit hole. We have your back, folks.
Speaker 4: We're going to go to a commercial break, and then
Speaker 4: we are going to We're going to explore a pretty
Speaker 4: fascinating story about just how good Uncle Sam's jet stealth
Speaker 4: technology is, but maybe not the seats.
Speaker 5: And we're back ben beautiful pre ad T's here.
Speaker 3: I think we've all been keeping an eye on this
Speaker 3: story about a very expensive aeroplane that went missing.
Speaker 5: How does that happen? You might ask, how could we
Speaker 5: let this happen? Well, the Lockheed Martin F thirty five
Speaker 5: B a variant of the F thirty five, which is
Speaker 5: specifically designed for the Marine Corps. It has a nifty
Speaker 5: feature that allows it to take off and like hover
Speaker 5: mode so that it can take off from an aircraft carrier. Well, someone,
Speaker 5: a pilot who has not been named, was taking one
Speaker 5: of these out on a training maneuver whatever you want
Speaker 5: to call it, and for whatever reason, ejected from a cockpit.
Speaker 5: And then weirdly, the plane kept flying for quite a
Speaker 5: long time.
Speaker 3: People saw it on a beach, like, took videos of
Speaker 3: it and for a little while, for a couple of
Speaker 3: days at least, it was a mystery.
Speaker 2: And you know, the.
Speaker 3: Government literally was like it was almost like they were
Speaker 3: putting like milk carton pictures.
Speaker 5: You know, have you seen this plane? Here's a phone number.
Speaker 5: You know, we missed our little we miss our baby.
Speaker 5: Please help us bring our baby home. Our one hundred
Speaker 5: million dollar baby.
Speaker 4: It was like if you're a kid in playing baseball
Speaker 4: and you hit the ball in a nice home run
Speaker 4: into a neighbor's yard or somewhere, and you're like, hey, guys,
Speaker 4: no harm, no foul. If you happened to see you
Speaker 4: described it perfectly, no missing pet posters.
Speaker 3: It's hilarious.
Speaker 5: I mean, at the end of the day, the takeaway
Speaker 5: of it, there was a couple of takeaways of the story.
Speaker 3: One a one hundred million dollar war toy can go missing,
Speaker 3: and two said one hundred million dollar war toy may
Speaker 3: have some issues. It seems like there have been other
Speaker 3: instances of some potential snags in this Lockheed Martin design,
Speaker 3: and some of them relate specifically to the ejector seat.
Speaker 3: It's my understanding, and y'all please keep me in check
Speaker 3: here that this particular variance, again because of its ability
Speaker 3: to take off in land like a helicopter, always makes
Speaker 3: me think of the X men jet, you know whatever,
Speaker 3: whatever it's called, the X Wing.
Speaker 5: I don't know it's it's it was like that. It
Speaker 5: was like a hover thing, and I guess at the
Speaker 5: time that like didn't exist. Maybe this is definitely I mean,
Speaker 5: I know there are aircraft that can do this, but
Speaker 5: it feels like it's it's pretty intensely you know, cutting
Speaker 5: edge technology.
Speaker 4: You might be thinking of the Avengers, Quinn Jet, the
Speaker 4: x Men jets, a Blackbird.
Speaker 3: That's right, I think he caught me.
Speaker 5: I think I was thinking of the Avengers jet that
Speaker 5: has the vertical landing thing, because it had like jets
Speaker 5: that would kind of flip upside down like shooting rockets.
Speaker 5: You know, that's not quite how that would work. Probably,
Speaker 5: I don't quite understand. It's beyond my pay grade the
Speaker 5: technology that allows them to do this. But again, this variant,
Speaker 5: because of the ability that it has to take off
Speaker 5: vertically and land vertically, Apparently the ejector seat has like
Speaker 5: an auto eject function. That's what I'm saying, you know
Speaker 5: that saying exactly specifically on this variant. The other ones
Speaker 5: are different. You have to initiate the eject sequence. Eject
Speaker 5: sequence initiated in the other models. So the question you
Speaker 5: all might be asking, or have asked, I'm sure, is Oh,
Speaker 5: by the way, we also talked about this off Mike.
Speaker 5: They are describing the event that led to the ejection
Speaker 5: as a what was the word been a mishap, A mishap, right, yeah,
Speaker 5: and aviation parlance, apparently that is a word that means
Speaker 5: we don't want to talk about it, or we can't
Speaker 5: tell you about it, or we don't know it's some
Speaker 5: sort of technical difficulty a glitch, and that's it would
Speaker 5: make sense, you know this Apparently the program for these
Speaker 5: f thirty fives has ballooned to over one point seven
Speaker 5: trillion dollars. What no way not to get on a
Speaker 5: soapbox here, But it makes me really sick when the
Speaker 5: government pleads poverty about things like education and welfare services
Speaker 5: and just general humanitarian aid for its citizens. Like, you know,
Speaker 5: I have insurance, but my health care sucks and it's
Speaker 5: like expensive no matter what, and not God forbid people
Speaker 5: that don't have insurance. And yet we're spending one point
Speaker 5: seven trillion dollars on these war toys. And I know
Speaker 5: I'm being flippant. I know it's about offense. I know
Speaker 5: we have to maintain supremacy and the air and the
Speaker 5: sea and all of that stuff, or at least the
Speaker 5: illusion thereof. But I feel like, you know, we we've
Speaker 5: we've we've done stories about them spending millions of dollars
Speaker 5: on like coffee warmers.
Speaker 3: You know, it just seems like it's the military is
Speaker 3: a money pit.
Speaker 2: Are you trying to take money out of Lockheed Martin's pocket? Bro?
Speaker 3: I mean, I mean this guy. I know, man, I
Speaker 3: know it's a hot take for sure.
Speaker 4: But no, you're right.
Speaker 2: You're right.
Speaker 4: Eisenhower would agree with you in the most controversial speech
Speaker 4: he made. You know, this is every bomb dropped right,
Speaker 4: every every defense R and D project could have made.
Speaker 4: How many libraries could have fed? How many children? It's
Speaker 4: a good question.
Speaker 2: Yeah, but they are making f thirty five B lightning twos,
Speaker 2: which is like a fat ass.
Speaker 5: Videos the New Jordan's, don't get me wrong.
Speaker 3: That's why. Look again, I'm I'm not trying to be flip.
Speaker 3: I'm calling it a war toy.
Speaker 5: Because that's just kind of what it feels like to me.
Speaker 5: It just sounds like a cool ass, you know, plaything.
Speaker 1: You know.
Speaker 5: And apparently this one had some issues because again I'm sorry,
Speaker 5: I sort of got ahead of myself, or at least
Speaker 5: derailed myself. The question you might be asking is why
Speaker 5: would this eject sequence happen and then the plane continue
Speaker 5: to fly for more than sixty months. This critical thing
Speaker 5: could have happened that caused this pilot to be ejected,
Speaker 5: and then the plane just whoop, there it is, look
Speaker 5: at it go.
Speaker 3: You know it would weep there it is.
Speaker 2: Would be really messed up if it was just like
Speaker 2: some software issue and the AU auto eject just occurred.
Speaker 2: And he's like, wait, what, this.
Speaker 4: Is why we do training though, this is why you
Speaker 4: gotta take it around the block, you know what I mean.
Speaker 4: The problem is these test drives occur hundreds of millions
Speaker 4: of dollars later, and again I was an absolute terrible
Speaker 4: entity on Twitter. You guys saw it, and I was
Speaker 4: just saying, hey, it turns out that new Stealth is
Speaker 4: pretty top notch.
Speaker 3: Oh that's a big part of Yeah, like where to go?
Speaker 4: You know?
Speaker 2: Yeah?
Speaker 4: Your question? No, you know it reminded me. I want
Speaker 4: to go back to this amazing analogy you make with
Speaker 4: a lost pet, which is, like you've seen it countless times, folks.
Speaker 4: If you live in an area where people are safe
Speaker 4: enough to have domestic animals, someone might have their dog
Speaker 4: on a leash and the dog runs away and the
Speaker 4: owner is like, nah, I don't have the land speed
Speaker 4: to catch this little guy. I guess I got to
Speaker 4: go home and print some posters. But the parachuting thing,
Speaker 4: the ejection thing, I think that's a good measure to have,
Speaker 4: because if you're counting on only voluntary ejection, then other
Speaker 4: variables enter into the game, right, Like what if the
Speaker 4: pilot passes out? What if the pilot is some one
Speaker 4: hundred estated.
Speaker 5: Geez right, like you could you can pass out from
Speaker 5: G force. There's a lot of butt ifs for.
Speaker 2: Dansure do what you got, Matt, Well, Okay, so this
Speaker 2: is what we know from the AP news article that
Speaker 2: came out when this was like first happening. This is
Speaker 2: what I read. At least, it was stating that the warplane,
Speaker 2: the jet was only flying at about one thousand feet altitude,
Speaker 2: which is super low for one of these massive planes.
Speaker 5: That's lower than cruising altitude for a commercial flight.
Speaker 3: Yeah lower, yeah, yeah.
Speaker 2: Yah yeah yah yeah yeah, like twenty nine thousand feet
Speaker 2: lower whatever, I mean something like that.
Speaker 4: It's like low enough that someone in rural South Carolina
Speaker 4: either called nine to one one or they called their
Speaker 4: militia buddies and said it's happening.
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's weird, right, that's odd to me that because
Speaker 2: and simply because the problems with like oxygen feed into
Speaker 2: an aircraft when you get higher in elevation, when the
Speaker 2: pressure cabin pressure is so great that if you know,
Speaker 2: you lose some pressure, the pilot could actually exphyxiate or
Speaker 2: lose oxygen and you'd have problems at a one thousand
Speaker 2: feet Generally that's not gonna happen, although there are differences
Speaker 2: in this type of aircraft, and like a passenger aircraft,
Speaker 2: that's what I'm kind of comparing it too, because that's
Speaker 2: what I've learned about. But like at a thousand feet,
Speaker 2: it doesn't feel like it's oxygen or pressurization. It feels
Speaker 2: like systems something systems internal with.
Speaker 5: One hundred percent, and it it makes me think of
Speaker 5: like some of these new cars, like I wrote around
Speaker 5: in a rental car this weekend on a little family
Speaker 5: trip with some friends, and there's a feature that a
Speaker 5: lot of these new cars have where if you aren't
Speaker 5: maintaining lane, or even if you just switch lanes kind
Speaker 5: of quickly, it beeps at you.
Speaker 3: And honestly, it scared the crap out of us to
Speaker 3: the point where it was like more of a bug
Speaker 3: than a feature.
Speaker 5: So I'm wondering if this like auto eject thing that's
Speaker 5: like an extreme version of this, you know, where it's
Speaker 5: like whoops and you're in the air well.
Speaker 2: That was a problem with with the It reminds me
Speaker 2: a lot of that seven thirty seven Max problem where
Speaker 2: the aircraft itself would nose down because there was a
Speaker 2: sensor on it now that would be faulty, and it
Speaker 2: would like try and it thought that it was raising
Speaker 2: its nose too high, and it would try to compensate,
Speaker 2: and by trying to compensate, it would send the aircraft
Speaker 2: directly into the ground or water. Yah.
Speaker 4: Also a boeying thing. And to your point, the seven
Speaker 4: forty seven also got discontinued as of this year, so
Speaker 4: they got some complicated math going on.
Speaker 5: Yeah, well, you know, so the Lockheed Martin got some
Speaker 5: splaining to do. Let's just say, given all of the
Speaker 5: R and D that's gone into this program, the cost
Speaker 5: overruns and again I want to say, there was another
Speaker 5: issue very similar.
Speaker 3: Yeah, that's right.
Speaker 5: Last December and F thirty eight B that hadn't yet
Speaker 5: been delivered to the Marine Corps crashed at Naval Air
Speaker 5: Station Joint Reserve Base Fort Worth in Texas and it
Speaker 5: involved use of the hover mode. Apparently it was in
Speaker 5: hover mode over the airstrip and then started to drop.
Speaker 3: I'm not laughing. This is unfortunate whoever was in there,
Speaker 3: sure it was terrifying.
Speaker 5: Hit the runway, had a good little bounce, and then
Speaker 5: the pilot was ejected. It's like some cartoony sound and stuff.
Speaker 3: It just sounds like there's some issues.
Speaker 5: Here with this line, and given how much it costs,
Speaker 5: it's certainly something to investigate.
Speaker 3: They did again up till a few days ago. This
Speaker 3: was quite the mystery.
Speaker 5: There are people that posted pictures and images social media
Speaker 5: of this plane just kind of circling around this beach
Speaker 5: in North Carolina or South Carolina rather.
Speaker 3: And it was seen.
Speaker 5: I think it's a actually a lake, Lake Moultrie, I
Speaker 5: believe was the last known location. And I believe just
Speaker 5: yesterday or maybe even today. I think it was yesterday
Speaker 5: the wreckage of the plane was discovered. So that's a
Speaker 5: wrecked that's a wreckt ass plane right there. That's one
Speaker 5: hundred million dollars you know, down the down the old
Speaker 5: two Burrinos.
Speaker 3: So still more.
Speaker 5: Questions because again there's calling a mishap, a little whoopsie
Speaker 5: but you know, I guess maybe, Ben, do you think
Speaker 5: some of the lack of detail is because of things
Speaker 5: like national security?
Speaker 3: To your point about yeah.
Speaker 5: It's like it's a it's a it's a missing and
Speaker 5: visit plane. You know, that's sort of sort of doing
Speaker 5: what it does and doing it quite well. But I
Speaker 5: did think it was funny that they literally were like crowdsourcing.
Speaker 3: This, like have you seen our plane?
Speaker 5: Like, yeah, and it's scary what if it had crashed
Speaker 5: in a civilian, you know, population, Like I don't understand
Speaker 5: fully how this autopilot technology works, like is it designed
Speaker 5: to fly indefinitely into self land? Like what why do
Speaker 5: we even need? Why why aren't they just like drones
Speaker 5: if they have such an advanced you know, autopilot system.
Speaker 4: Right, is this another? Is this another talking point in
Speaker 4: the argument for unmanned war craft?
Speaker 2: Right?
Speaker 4: That's a big part of it, honestly, because to your point, no,
Speaker 4: we have very limited information as the public. Obviously, the
Speaker 4: question for anybody who's been on a commercial airplane is
Speaker 4: what about the transponder? Where is that thing?
Speaker 3: Right? Is it the socks?
Speaker 1: Yeah?
Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, some secret black backs that contacts you in
Speaker 4: a secret way. If you're in charge of the plane.
Speaker 4: The F thirty five's do have transponders, and I just
Speaker 4: have to be.
Speaker 3: Mega encrypted in some way, you know, really like you know.
Speaker 4: Tight supposed to be able to track them. The current
Speaker 4: scuttle butt that I heard was out of quote unquote
Speaker 4: private industry defense analyst firms. They say that it's possible
Speaker 4: this was an error of group projects. Picture one group
Speaker 4: working on the newest, coolest, best, most safe for the
Speaker 4: pilot ejection system and not really talking with the group
Speaker 4: that works on the best, most encrypted transponder or any
Speaker 4: other component of the craft entire. What if the ejection seat,
Speaker 4: as JJ Gertler said over at teal group, what if
Speaker 4: the ejection seat was so powerful that it quote cooked
Speaker 4: the electronics and the wires and cut off the power
Speaker 4: to the transponder.
Speaker 2: Maybe maybe Well, but the other thing is why and
Speaker 2: the heck did it happen in the first place, Because
Speaker 2: if the pilot didn't accidentally or somehow automatically get ejected,
Speaker 2: that pilot made the decision to eject. So if you
Speaker 2: go down that route, why would the pilot do that
Speaker 2: and why would the plane continue for that long? It
Speaker 2: sounds to me like one of those situations where this
Speaker 2: you get locked out of a system, right you got
Speaker 2: your computer freezes or whatever. You have no control anymore.
Speaker 2: But it's on its auto systems, this stuff, it's still
Speaker 2: running in the background. Admit, yeah, Well what do you
Speaker 2: do in that point? If you're that pilot, you you know,
Speaker 2: make contact withever you can try and fix the problem.
Speaker 2: If it can't help you and you're still in the plane,
Speaker 2: what do you do?
Speaker 3: Got that hold music in your little your space helmet.
Speaker 4: I'm gonna put it one thing, and we got to
Speaker 4: go to an atbreak. But Noel Matt. If I were
Speaker 4: a defense contractor who wanted to get rid of human
Speaker 4: pilots and institute a new, very profitable stream of UAV
Speaker 4: just I would create cases like this wherein human error
Speaker 4: seems like an easy problem to a But that is
Speaker 4: not to say the pilot committed any error at all.
Speaker 4: I'm just saying this is an interesting thing to think
Speaker 4: about going forward.
Speaker 2: As an evil billionaire prank. Right there, Ben design the
Speaker 2: ejector seats to just go off randomly automatically in the
Speaker 2: brand new trillion dollar plane.
Speaker 5: I just want to close out too, with a little
Speaker 5: bit of a statement that the Marines did release on
Speaker 5: Monday of this week, saying that General Eric M. Smith,
Speaker 5: who's the acting commander of the Marines, directed all Marine
Speaker 5: Corps aviation units to conduct a two day pause in operations.
Speaker 5: Let's just take a little pause, Let's reset, Let's have
Speaker 5: a little and do some Let's do some safety training,
Speaker 5: you know, some trust falls. Let's let's do some team building.
Speaker 3: The statement said.
Speaker 5: The directive came after this is from apm's reading from
Speaker 5: it after three uh and this is an official term
Speaker 5: ben class aaviation misapps whoopsies over the last six weeks.
Speaker 5: Such mishaps involve property damage of two point five million
Speaker 5: or more according to Marine Corps documents. And the last thing,
Speaker 5: you got a couple of fun hot takes from the
Speaker 5: Twitter sphere whatever. Instagram actor Misha Collins wrote under a
Speaker 5: picture of the jet, that's what they get for leaving
Speaker 5: the keys in the ignition and other news. Check out
Speaker 5: my new listing on Craigslist. No low ball offers. Yuck, yuck, yuck.
Speaker 2: Is that Misha from Supernatural?
Speaker 3: I think it is.
Speaker 2: That's awesome. Check out Bridgewater and hear Misha Collins right now.
Speaker 5: No, Wow, I didn't realize that's awesome. Well, I think
Speaker 5: we're all fascinated by this one. And to your point, Ben.
Speaker 6: Probably not gonna see too much more detail coming out,
Speaker 6: but this is an interesting glimpse of the stuff that
Speaker 6: Uncle Sam and Lockheed Martin don't want us to know
Speaker 6: that they're screwing up.
Speaker 5: Well, let's take a break here, a work more sponsor,
Speaker 5: and then come back with a more piece of strangeness.
Speaker 2: All right, we're back. And if you've gotten this far
Speaker 2: into the episode and you've got maybe kids with you
Speaker 2: or something like that, go ahead and maybe just skip
Speaker 2: to the next episode and keep going. We're gonna talk
Speaker 2: about some homicide in this section of the show.
Speaker 3: Unless your kids are into that kind of thing.
Speaker 2: Yeah, sure, here we are. So very recently, in September,
Speaker 2: there were two women who have been found separately two
Speaker 2: days apart, dead in their apartments in Los Angeles. It
Speaker 2: was well, i'll give you the details here, and these
Speaker 2: details come from Fox eleven Los Angeles, an article you
Speaker 2: can read right now titled second model found dead in
Speaker 2: downtown LA apartment. I'm gonna read you just kind of
Speaker 2: the subtitle here. Authorities are investigating after two models were
Speaker 2: found dead in their downtown Los Angeles luxury apartments less
Speaker 2: than a mile away from me, each other, just two
Speaker 2: days apart. So immediately before you hear any details, you
Speaker 2: like us, probably hear that and think, oh wow, I
Speaker 2: wonder if that's one actor, one person, one serial killer. Right,
Speaker 2: we got ourselves an unsubb Yeah.
Speaker 4: Is that a criminal minds reference?
Speaker 5: Yeah, I mean I think it's a thing, but like
Speaker 5: that's they say it.
Speaker 3: All the time, and they're usually referring to serial killers.
Speaker 4: As you're saying, though, Matt, Like, Okay, so two deaths,
Speaker 4: similar careers or career goals similar? Yeah, that's the question.
Speaker 2: That is the question. And as we're gonna find out.
Speaker 2: I don't want to spoil it too much, but we
Speaker 2: do not have enough information from the authorities yet to know.
Speaker 2: Let me give you the details and we can see
Speaker 2: why this feels so connected. The first person that was
Speaker 2: discovered dead is Nicole Nicky to her friend's coats, she
Speaker 2: was thirty two years old. On September tenth of this year,
Speaker 2: she was discovered de ceased in her apartment. That apartment
Speaker 2: is in the seven hundred block of Grand Avenue in
Speaker 2: Los Angeles. This is basically this is downtown Los Angeles.
Speaker 2: LAPD officers discovered her when a welfare check was initiated
Speaker 2: by her family. They were concerned because she stopped responding
Speaker 2: to communication for a time. Her cause of death, you
Speaker 2: know that was at least initially announced, was unknown, but
Speaker 2: recently the LAPD has issued a statement saying that her
Speaker 2: death is being investigated as a quote death investigation. I
Speaker 2: don't know what that means, but and perhaps not a
Speaker 2: homicide specifically investigation just looking into her passing the second victim.
Speaker 2: So that's one person, Nicole Coates, thirty two years old.
Speaker 2: I neglected to say that she was a model by profession,
Speaker 2: as well as some other pursuits that she had. But
Speaker 2: that's a key thing here because the second person who
Speaker 2: has found, Melissa Mooney. That's how I'm choosing to pronounce
Speaker 2: a m al e Sa. She was thirty one years old,
Speaker 2: also a model, also working as a real estate agent.
Speaker 2: She was found two days after Nicole on September twelfth,
Speaker 2: again discovered deceased in her downtown luxury apartment, this time
Speaker 2: in the two hundred block of South Figueroa Street. Again,
Speaker 2: LAPD officers show up to her apartment, responding to a
Speaker 2: welfare check initiated by family because she stopped responding to communication.
Speaker 2: Her cause of death also listed as unknown at the time,
Speaker 2: but now LAPD is saying her death is being investigated
Speaker 2: as a homicide. Curious or and curiouser right.
Speaker 4: This also knowing for anyone unfamiliar with the area. The
Speaker 4: reason it's important to say that these are luxury apartments
Speaker 4: is because that includes a certain barrier of secure. So
Speaker 4: to enter a place like this, you will need codes
Speaker 4: or cards or keyfobs at least something like that. It's
Speaker 4: not it's not a random Motel six kind of thing
Speaker 4: that you can just stroll up to.
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, but you know what, and let's make a
Speaker 2: point about this. Something strange at least about several Atlanta
Speaker 2: luxury apartment complexes I've been to over the years, they
Speaker 2: have all those systems in place to prevent unwanted entry
Speaker 2: right both into the complex and into individual sections of
Speaker 2: that complex. But often I've found and tell me what
Speaker 2: you guys have seen in your you know, your dealings
Speaker 2: with luxury apartments are nicer apartment complexes. Often they don't
Speaker 2: have a ton of security cameras around to actually monitor
Speaker 2: the grounds at least that's what that's what I've seen.
Speaker 4: The privacy of our tenants, right, it's a top priority.
Speaker 2: And it seems that way, but then it almost it
Speaker 2: makes it. It's cree to me. It feels like it
Speaker 2: could potentially be a hunting ground for someone, because if
Speaker 2: you do go in there, it's like you're a ghost,
Speaker 2: which is really it's really creepy to me. And I
Speaker 2: don't know what the situations are like in those two
Speaker 2: apartment complexes where both of these women were found dead.
Speaker 2: But I because again it's never stated, at least in
Speaker 2: any of the reporting I've found, exactly which apartment complexes
Speaker 2: these are. I'm assuming it's because I don't know. They
Speaker 2: don't want news crews there. They don't want the bad
Speaker 2: press for the companies that run the apartments. I don't know.
Speaker 5: Well, one thing I've noticed at some of them maybe
Speaker 5: that I don't know what qualifies as luxury exactly. But
Speaker 5: oftentimes these intrigue measures are under maintenance.
Speaker 3: They're not working very well at all.
Speaker 5: You know, a close friend just recently moved out of
Speaker 5: what I thought was a pretty nice apartment complex. But
Speaker 5: like security gates would always just be open, like to
Speaker 5: the garage to the parking garage, and sometimes doors would
Speaker 5: be propped open and things like that. So to your point,
Speaker 5: there's not a lot of monitoring of the systems.
Speaker 2: I think, you know, I don't want to do too
Speaker 2: much personal stuff. But I went to pick up my
Speaker 2: son the other day and his mom lives in a
Speaker 2: town home complex thing that has a lot of security, right,
Speaker 2: and it's very expensive HOA, like crazy expense. I've never
Speaker 2: seen one that expensive ever in my life.
Speaker 4: Let's do an HOA episode.
Speaker 2: Seriously, so weird, let's bring.
Speaker 3: Some fire to it. As you were saying that.
Speaker 2: Their front gate was just standing open, and I was like, huh,
Speaker 2: that's weird, okay, because usually you have to I have
Speaker 2: to call her number to get in, but no, no, no,
Speaker 2: I just drove right in there like I would was anybody,
Speaker 2: and uh any similar situation.
Speaker 4: Anyone can share a code, especially if it's the equivalent
Speaker 4: of you know, like four to six eight digits. Maybe
Speaker 4: for the nerds you can you can share it and
Speaker 4: then all of a sudden it's out in the world.
Speaker 4: There's also there's one thing we got to point out here, Matt,
Speaker 4: and I think we can all agree on this. Los
Speaker 4: Angeles as a metropolitan area, has a much higher frequency
Speaker 4: of people pursuing careers in things like modeling, so such
Speaker 4: that we need to be careful and exercise objectivity when
Speaker 4: we're reading headlines that say, oh, two models were murdered.
Speaker 4: There are many more models in Los Angeles or people
Speaker 4: pursuing that career than there are in say, Poughkeepsie. And additionally,
Speaker 4: a lot of people die in Los Angeles. Los Angeles
Speaker 4: has a huge problem with homicide that does not often
Speaker 4: get acknowledged. However, to your original point here, man, and
Speaker 4: I think the reason we're talking about this, how many
Speaker 4: coincidences can there be? You know, these are people who
Speaker 4: live very close to each other. L A p d.
Speaker 4: UH probably most famous for beating the shout of an
Speaker 4: innocent man a while back.
Speaker 3: L A p. D.
Speaker 4: Is being a little close to the chest with information
Speaker 4: that could help UH, that could help save innocent people.
Speaker 4: I don't know, maybe I'm maybe I'm being unfair to
Speaker 4: L A p H.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I don't mean.
Speaker 5: We've we've talked about the whole gang mentality and and
Speaker 5: police departments, and I believe Los Angeles has been notorious
Speaker 5: for that kind of you know, organizing amongst certain members.
Speaker 5: I've been I've been rewatching the show The Shield with
Speaker 5: Michael Chickliss. It's about l A. Hell yeah, it's really good.
Speaker 5: It holds up. I like it a lot, but it
Speaker 5: had you know, it covers stuff like this. But yeah,
Speaker 5: so this is downtown l A I'm looking at. You know,
Speaker 5: it's funny. Downtown LA feels a lot more like New York.
Speaker 5: It really feels like a like that kind of city,
Speaker 5: whereas the rest of LA it's sprawl. You know, it's
Speaker 5: like it's such a massive metro area. You've got so
Speaker 5: many different communities spread over this huge, you know, geographical area.
Speaker 5: But downtown LA is very specific and it really it's
Speaker 5: very gritty, very Gotham kind of like compared to it
Speaker 5: doesn't look like any other parts of the city. And
Speaker 5: it's also where you'll find skid Row, an area known
Speaker 5: for just like you know, unhoused kind of compounds and
Speaker 5: sort of and just a lot of crime, a lot
Speaker 5: of nasty stuff in downtown LA.
Speaker 2: Well, yeah, let me just show you guys what I found.
Speaker 2: I did a minor investigation here because again you only
Speaker 2: get like the block number and the street in all
Speaker 2: the reporting. I don't want to throw any apartment complexes
Speaker 2: under their bus. I don't know if these are the
Speaker 2: right ones. I found too that fit those descriptions, just
Speaker 2: so I could estimate how far of a drive, like,
Speaker 2: how long does a drive take? How long does Okay,
Speaker 2: So if you if you go to Google Maps, find
Speaker 2: sky at Bunker Hill Apartments that's in the two hundred
Speaker 2: block of South Figueroa and eighth and Grand Apartments, which
Speaker 2: fits the seven hundred block of Grand Avenue, you'll see
Speaker 2: that it is roughly these two are roughly one to
Speaker 2: one point one miles away from each other, which again
Speaker 2: fits the descriptions that we've seen there. And it's roughly
Speaker 2: a twenty one minute walk if you were just hoofing
Speaker 2: it on the streets to get there on the shortest
Speaker 2: route possible, and it would only take five minutes to
Speaker 2: drive there if you didn't get stuck in some crazy
Speaker 2: LA traffic. Sure, so again, sorry. The whole reason is
Speaker 2: that if it was a single operator being that close
Speaker 2: in distance with two, they're not super similar when you
Speaker 2: look at the apartment complexes. If these two are in
Speaker 2: fact the apartment complexes, because they very well may not be.
Speaker 2: It just it feels like an m O thing, right,
Speaker 2: if you're matching up an m type of victim. Also,
Speaker 2: I didn't even mention these are two black women in
Speaker 2: their early thirties.
Speaker 4: Right, The demographics are very similar, that's.
Speaker 2: Right, So I don't know.
Speaker 4: Well. Also, there's another question here, a couple just housekeeping things,
Speaker 4: and hopefully law enforcement is I'm sure law enforcement has
Speaker 4: already figured this out, even if they don't announce it publicly.
Speaker 3: Matt.
Speaker 4: I agree with your estimation regarding the two most likely complexes.
Speaker 4: Curious to see whether they have one the same or
Speaker 4: similar owners, and too whether they use the same or
Speaker 4: similar third party maintenance companies.
Speaker 2: You know, like house good thing.
Speaker 5: That's really smart, Ben, you know someone that would have
Speaker 5: had access And yeah, obviously no motive, but the it's
Speaker 5: eerie the similarities between the two women.
Speaker 2: Oh that's messed up. Man. You just put a scenario
Speaker 2: in my head that I can see really clearly. Right
Speaker 2: around this time is when HVAC companies go out to
Speaker 2: do the checks on all the units in individual single
Speaker 2: family homes as well as multifamily homes. And I see
Speaker 2: your logic. There have been and I don't like how
Speaker 2: clear it is.
Speaker 3: No, I think you can hear onto something there.
Speaker 4: Well, we're not. Again, we are not the official investigators,
Speaker 4: and we're being very careful, I think, to not allege
Speaker 4: things that we cannot prove.
Speaker 2: Absolutely.
Speaker 4: We also have to point out that, you know, sometimes
Speaker 4: people want a spectacle, right, want to believe that there
Speaker 4: is an active serial murderer, when in fact those entities
Speaker 4: are quite rare. The truth of the matter is, to
Speaker 4: your points, the truth of the matter is that two
Speaker 4: innocent people died, Yes, died in close proximity, both in
Speaker 4: terms of their careers and in terms of their geographic location.
Speaker 4: And it's heartbreaking, you know what I mean, Like imagine
Speaker 4: being what is it Sharon Coates, Nikki's mom, Yeah, and
Speaker 4: saying why won't the police investigate this as a homicide?
Speaker 4: To the point you made earlier, why is one a
Speaker 4: quote unquote death investigation and the other is a homicide investigation?
Speaker 4: This is troubling.
Speaker 2: Let me give you a quote here from ABC Channel seven,
Speaker 2: who spoke with I think I would say Shanaya Mason,
Speaker 2: who is Nichole's cousin, This is her quote. It just
Speaker 2: didn't look right to us, didn't look right how she
Speaker 2: was positioned on the bed. She was even unrecognizable as
Speaker 2: if she'd been beat they had to identify her by
Speaker 2: her tattoos. So that is Nichole's cousin speaking on the
Speaker 2: state of Nicole when she was discovered in her apartment.
Speaker 2: To me, like a homicide investigation, right, I don't know,
Speaker 2: maybe not. That sounds like one to me. If someone
Speaker 2: appears to be physically beaten and they're found dead, that
Speaker 2: is Nicole is the person who LAPD currently says it
Speaker 2: is a quote death investigation rather than a homicide investigation.
Speaker 2: I don't have much information about Melissa and how she
Speaker 2: was found or anything like that, or statements from the family,
Speaker 2: but I do have a statement from the LAPD which
Speaker 2: was given to San Francisco Gate on September nineteenth. Really quickly,
Speaker 2: here we go. Since their discovery, LAPD Central Bureau Homicide
Speaker 2: has been investigating the deaths of both Miss Coats and
Speaker 2: Miss Mooney. Since both cases remain active investigations, details about
Speaker 2: either case will not be released. However, based on the
Speaker 2: investigation thus far, there is no evidence. Again he's saying,
Speaker 2: no evidence to suggest that the deaths of Miss Coats
Speaker 2: and Miss Mooney are related to one another. That's what
Speaker 2: it stated, but there's still no cause of death for
Speaker 2: either case as of the latest reporting, which came out
Speaker 2: yesterday evening, when at least yesterday Tuesday, September nineteenth.
Speaker 4: Yeah, like you said, we were talking about this a
Speaker 4: little bit off air. Our concern is for the family,
Speaker 4: for the survivors, for anyone who may know any relevant information.
Speaker 4: And it's just heartbreaking that this kind of thing can occur.
Speaker 4: And look, lest we sound like we are unfairly denigrating
Speaker 4: law enforcement folks, you got to realize there are people
Speaker 4: who are working on this stuff around the clock and
Speaker 4: they're racing for the answers. If you're thinking about the
Speaker 4: medical examiners, guess what they're in Los Angeles. They are
Speaker 4: overloaded all the time.
Speaker 2: This is what I would say, last last thing here.
Speaker 2: If you do have information, just happen to know one
Speaker 2: of these individuals, happen to know a tiny piece of
Speaker 2: information that may be helpful with the investigation. If you
Speaker 2: choose to, you can contact LAPD their Homicide Division, Central
Speaker 2: Bureau Homicide. Right now. I'm going to give you a number.
Speaker 2: They've posted it all over online. You can find it.
Speaker 2: It is two one three nine nine six four to
Speaker 2: one five zero. This is what they write. You can
Speaker 2: speak with Detective Pierce or Marcinek. Those are two detectives
Speaker 2: who are covering these cases. There is also a way
Speaker 2: to leave an anonymous tip if you don't want to
Speaker 2: be identified. If you've got information about something bad that
Speaker 2: you maybe you know minorly attach you, you're just nervous
Speaker 2: about it, you can call LA Crime Stoppers anonymously. It
Speaker 2: is one eight hundred two two two tips tips and.
Speaker 4: Matt, can we have that first number one more time?
Speaker 3: Sure?
Speaker 2: First number for LAPD Homicide Division two to one three,
Speaker 2: four to one, five zero.
Speaker 4: It is good to be a part of the solution
Speaker 4: if you can, folks. And we promised you one Pallette cleanser,
Speaker 4: which pales in comparison here. But we we wanted to
Speaker 4: amidst all this strange news. People are losing multimillion dollar airplanes,
Speaker 4: there are unsolved murders happening now, and there is a
Speaker 4: war that the West would rather you not care about.
Speaker 4: So we wanted to leave you a one funny story.
Speaker 4: It's also a crime. Let's go to Alaska. Two bears
Speaker 4: shook down at Krispy Kreme donut Van on a military base.
Speaker 3: Did you also hear about the bear that was invading
Speaker 3: Disney World?
Speaker 2: Yeah?
Speaker 4: I had not been this guy.
Speaker 5: The internet today guys made the joke or positive the
Speaker 5: delightful conspiracy that Ron Desantas set the bear loose because
Speaker 5: of his ongoing strife with Disney, that he is not
Speaker 5: faring very well in it, and it's kind of derailed
Speaker 5: his political aspirations. But man, the Bears, the Bears, us
Speaker 5: double the Bears.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 4: So I found this on a great Twitter account ap Oddities,
Speaker 4: and just read the headline. This is what I think
Speaker 4: grabbed all of us and the recent to senate you
Speaker 4: guys quote donut stop me now. Two bears rated a
Speaker 4: Krispy Kream doughnut man that was stopped outside a store
Speaker 4: on an Alaskan military base. I could hear them breaking
Speaker 4: open the packages and everything. This store manager said. I
Speaker 4: was like, they don't even care. And for some reason,
Speaker 4: the store manager saying they don't even care, I don't
Speaker 4: know why. It's so epic to me.
Speaker 5: I wonder if they they had like a favorite flavor,
Speaker 5: you know, like, are they do? You think they're more into
Speaker 5: I like a French crueler myself, But do you think
Speaker 5: bears like filling in their donuts or are they just indiscriminates,
Speaker 5: just pawing at whatever's out there?
Speaker 2: First of all, can you imagine the delicious smell? But
Speaker 2: that delivery truck had M and E like just the
Speaker 2: if you can just imagine it flowing out from you know,
Speaker 2: if you could see, like cartoons.
Speaker 3: Smell lines right now, like a pi on a windowsill.
Speaker 2: Be Yes, it doesn't matter what kind of donuts are
Speaker 2: in there. You can just tell there sugar involved. There's
Speaker 2: there's some kind of wheat or whatever it is that's
Speaker 2: been baking.
Speaker 4: Also, let's speak clear. We're doing our best, and I
Speaker 4: think we're doing okay as a group. We're doing our
Speaker 4: best to support human beings. But I think it's fair
Speaker 4: to say that if if we and Doc I'm pulling
Speaker 4: you in on this, I think if the four of
Speaker 4: us saw a bear doing a heist, if it wasn't
Speaker 4: our stuff, we wouldn't stop the bear like thumbs up, Yeah,
Speaker 4: fight the power dog or bear.
Speaker 2: Yeah. I don't know why, but I'm getting images of
Speaker 2: Shaquille O'Neil in my.
Speaker 4: Head because he owns Krispy Kreme O'Dell runs so many
Speaker 4: Atlanta outfits.
Speaker 2: Okay, sorry, I was trying to figure out. It was
Speaker 2: almost like I was having synesthesia when thinking about the
Speaker 2: smell of Krispy Kreme, and I was like, well, Shack,
Speaker 2: what are you doing in here?
Speaker 3: I experienced smells in the form of that's perfect. That's perfect.
Speaker 4: Yeah, that's a great marketing thing. Krispy Kreme. You can
Speaker 4: have that. Put the sign up on Ponce de Leon
Speaker 4: Avenue that says smells like Shack. Credit to mister Matt
Speaker 4: Frederick if if you could, We're gonna call it an evening.
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