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Speaker 1: Fish Unfiltered, Episode forty two on The Fish on First

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Speaker 1: Podcast Network. My name is Cavin Barrada. I'm joined with

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Speaker 1: Eli Sussman no Isaacazoo. Today we have arm Layton of

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Speaker 1: Just Baseball. He is the prospect guru. I listened to

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Speaker 1: his The Call of podcast basically every day. It's probably

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Speaker 1: about the best inside on minor league prospects. Arham just

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Speaker 1: released pretty recently, I think a couple of days before

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Speaker 1: we released ours the top I think it was like

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Speaker 1: top fifteen, top thirty prospects in the Martins organization. We

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Speaker 1: have to bring him on because there are some questions

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Speaker 1: not only about it his list, but just talk about

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Speaker 1: the Marlin system as a whole, which has some guys

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Speaker 1: who have impressed, some underrated names, and then some guys

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Speaker 1: that are kind of on the brink of you're kind

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Speaker 1: of out on, but arem They thank you so much

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Speaker 1: for hopping on and we're very excited to talk some prospects.

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Speaker 2: Thanks for having me, man, I appreciate it, and it's

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Speaker 2: been fun, you know, kind of putting together the Marlin system.

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Speaker 2: That was one that obviously is a little bit closer

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Speaker 2: to home, but it definitely is a little bit further

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Speaker 2: off from what it used to be when we were

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Speaker 2: covering it, So I'm excited to talk about it still

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Speaker 2: though there's a lot of talent still like any farm system,

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Speaker 2: but yeah, it's not quite what it once was.

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Speaker 1: So I think the first guy we need to mention

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Speaker 1: is the top prospect, Uri Perez. He made his MOB debut.

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Speaker 1: We got called up. What were your expectations for Uri

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Speaker 1: heading into the season in terms of, you know, even

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Speaker 1: minor leagues and just how is he faded in the

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Speaker 1: big leagues. I mean, we're seeing We talked about this

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Speaker 1: on the Day's Day's debut. He kind of shied away

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Speaker 1: with I think it was the change up. He's gone

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Speaker 1: more to the curveball. He didn't use it as much

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Speaker 1: in Colorado, I believe when I'm looking at the numbers,

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Speaker 1: and then he used it and then you know, Anaheim

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Speaker 1: probably one of his better strets despite just three strikeouts. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: you know, I would say, because I think it's an

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Speaker 1: excellent question. He's exceeded kind of my expectations, especially when

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Speaker 1: I was able to see up close and personal, you know,

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Speaker 1: what was going on in spring training a little bit

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Speaker 1: watching some of the minor league starts.

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Speaker 2: There was just a handful of pitches at every start

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Speaker 2: where I'm like, ooh, you know, you might not get

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Speaker 2: away with that at the big league level. Again, we're

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Speaker 2: splitting hairs here, obviously. You know in the larger scheme

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Speaker 2: of things in his starts, He's looked fantastic time and

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Speaker 2: time again in the minor leagues. But you know, he

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Speaker 2: sets a high bar for himself, which is go into

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Speaker 2: the big leagues and dominate. He's one of those prospects

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Speaker 2: where you assume that that's what they're gonna do. Fastball

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Speaker 2: command was my one question, and it's funny because Grayson Rodriguez,

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Speaker 2: who you know, many evaluators would have said is more polished,

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Speaker 2: is struggling with the same exact thing, fastball command, and

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Speaker 2: that's why he's getting bombed. I'd argue Yuri has a

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Speaker 2: better feel for his secondaries right now, and that's the

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Speaker 2: difference that on top of the fact that URI's fastball

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Speaker 2: little bit more. But to specifically answer the question, I'd

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Speaker 2: say he's exceeded my expectations because we're still not even

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Speaker 2: seeing anything close to what he can be, which is

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Speaker 2: a guy that I think is right around the realm

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Speaker 2: of Sandy, if not you know, in that ballpark. But

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Speaker 2: right now we're seeing kind of that that phase two

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Speaker 2: of Sandy. It's almost like he skipped that first phase

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Speaker 2: of Sandy and skipped straight to phase two, which is

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Speaker 2: gets out. Stuff is crazy. Not quite as many strikeouts

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Speaker 2: as you as you'd expect, but still plenty of uncomfortable swings,

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Speaker 2: good sequencing and staying around the zone enough. I've been

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Speaker 2: absolutely floored by Yuri so far.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, you put you put it pretty well on Just Baseball.

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Speaker 3: I was listening to Just Baseball Show and you touched

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Speaker 3: on that. How with Sandy you see the similarities. But

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Speaker 3: Sandy had better portion of a whole year where he's

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Speaker 3: working through those control issues and with him, but Yuri

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Speaker 3: not only being younger at the time where he's making

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Speaker 2: It is.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, it is pretty remarkable here. I guess the only

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Speaker 3: thing is like the still unknown is we don't know

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Speaker 3: what he looks like deep into these games because he's

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Speaker 3: never gone past ninety bitches. He's barely ever faced anybody

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Speaker 3: until we see it, or do you have like any

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Speaker 3: speculation as to like how things would go if he

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Speaker 2: No, it's funny you bring that up, because you know,

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Speaker 2: I've specifically looked at, and not just with Yury, with

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Speaker 2: this exact reason, how the velocity sustains later into starts,

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Speaker 2: and you know, we haven't seen him go to triple

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Speaker 2: digit pitches like you've like you've mentioned he's pretty much

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Speaker 2: that right now. But the velocity has been there pretty

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Speaker 2: they let him get to ninety. So I don't think

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Speaker 2: he's shown any signs that he's incapable. And then when

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Speaker 2: you look at the arsenal, yeah, the change up. I'd

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Speaker 2: like to see it be there more. You know, you

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Speaker 2: mentioned Corus Kevin like that was probably part of the

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Speaker 2: game plan to use more horizontal breaking pitches because that's

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Speaker 2: less affected by the altitude, so we didn't get to

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Speaker 2: see it, you know, maybe test it out a little

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Speaker 2: bit more there. First start he barely used. A second

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Speaker 2: he's a guy that should be built for going deep

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Speaker 2: into starts, similar to Sandy. And you know, I don't

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Speaker 2: I also think it's a little unfair to him, but

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Speaker 2: it's almost impossible not to when it's this on with

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Speaker 2: going to play into Yari's favor. He's gonna be able

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Speaker 2: to go deep into starts, I think, once they let him.

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Speaker 2: But I understand them wanting to be careful with him.

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Speaker 2: I get it. That was a ball.

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Speaker 1: This is it left he or retained, and that was

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Speaker 1: to strike as soon as Trout swung ninety seven blew

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Speaker 1: it right by him.

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Speaker 2: He struck out Troutanotani today.

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Speaker 1: And then before we move on with here, I mean,

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Speaker 1: he's loft Trevor, He's not gonna make him, I believe

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Speaker 1: a rehab start, and I mean whatever happens with Quator,

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Speaker 1: we'll see. But do you think URI's earned himself a

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Speaker 2: I mean, you would say maybe one or.

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Speaker 1: Two stars for Uri away from Trevor really being back.

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Speaker 1: And after that, I mean, Braxton's been good, he's been

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Speaker 1: holding his own weight. You can't say Andy decides to struggles,

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Speaker 1: he's not gonna go anywhere. And then you have Lozarda

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Speaker 1: who's been pretty damn good, and Edward with the walk issues.

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Speaker 1: That's really been my only concern thus far, as Uri

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Speaker 1: earned himself to stay at the big league level, or

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Speaker 1: and Miami has to move, you know, shift their rotation

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Speaker 1: a little bit with when Trevor comes back, or you know,

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Speaker 1: it doesn't make sense for him to go triple A

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Speaker 2: You know, I think that's a good question. But and

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Speaker 2: when it comes to this situation, though, I don't see

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Speaker 2: how you could stop Yuri from continuing to pitch at

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Speaker 2: the big league level. The guy is getting better and

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Speaker 2: better each start, in my opinion, and even if you

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Speaker 2: just better than anything we've seen so far. Again, I

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Speaker 2: know he's had better starts by the stat line, but

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Speaker 2: in terms of who he was facing and how he

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Speaker 2: was able to execute and sequence in that start against

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Speaker 2: the Angels, I thought that was the best start we

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Speaker 2: saw from him. Eli, you are, You're a savant at

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Speaker 2: this stuff. And when it comes to the the options

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Speaker 2: that each player has, does Edward have any options left one? Yeah?

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Speaker 3: This is a big topic entering the year because originally

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Speaker 3: we thought he was out of options and they put

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Speaker 3: in a request and got a it's gonna be his

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Speaker 3: fourth options, so that is on the table.

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Speaker 2: I didn't really could do that. There you go. I

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Speaker 2: knew I had no issue putting you on the spot there,

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Speaker 2: But to answer your question now that I have that

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Speaker 2: context too, like I would one hundred percent send Edward

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Speaker 2: Cabrera down before I send Uri down. And it's not

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Speaker 2: to knock Edward or pile on like you know, I

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Speaker 2: think in any other circumstance, i'd leave him up. It's

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Speaker 2: not just like he needs to go down, but you know,

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Speaker 2: if someone steps up. Especially with the way the Marlins

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Speaker 2: are playing right now, and Yuri obviously gives you a

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Speaker 2: better shot every fifth day, I think URI's you know,

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Speaker 2: you got the ebbs and flows. I think the down

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Speaker 2: that down starts of Yuri are far better than the

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Speaker 2: down starts of Edward. Maybe maybe there's ceilings right now

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Speaker 2: are similar. Maybe Edward can be even nastier when he's on.

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Speaker 2: I don't know if that's the case, but it could

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Speaker 2: be very close. But when Edward is off, that guy

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Speaker 2: can lose you an outing. We haven't seen that yet

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Speaker 2: from Yuri, and I think for that reason alone, you'd

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Speaker 2: have to probably send Edward out. I also wouldn't rule

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Speaker 2: out and I don't know if the Marlins have considered it.

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Speaker 2: I don't know if they've really talked about it. A

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Speaker 2: six man rotation will make a lot of sense, especially

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Speaker 2: when you look at the arms in this group. You

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Speaker 2: have Rogers coming off of injury, you have Cueto coming

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Speaker 2: off of injury, you have Jesus WIZARDO with an extensive

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Speaker 2: injury history, and you have Yuri, who you're trying to,

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Speaker 2: you know, very much limit how many innings he's gonna throw.

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Speaker 2: I think a six man rotation would make all the

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Speaker 2: sense in the world. The only downside of that would be, oh,

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Speaker 2: your ace isn't pitching as much. But your ace hasn't

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Speaker 2: even been that great so far this year, so maybe

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Speaker 2: it's not the worst thing in the world. I wonder

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Speaker 2: if that would be a consideration. Yeah, and then the

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Speaker 2: only I mean, now we can move on from Yuri.

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Speaker 2: I wanted to talk about the system as a whole.

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Speaker 2: We've seen the system outside of Uri.

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Speaker 1: I mean you basically have Dax, you have an injured

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Speaker 1: Max Simire and injured Jake Eater, and then position player wise,

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Speaker 1: it's it's really scarce. I mean, there's not much. You

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Speaker 1: have Victor Mason Junior, who you have regarded as a

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Speaker 1: top position player, and I want to get into that

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Speaker 1: in a bit. You have we have Yedi, who is

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Speaker 1: good start now he's beginning in the struggle. Really outside

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Speaker 1: of that, you have a pretty bad Jacob Barry who

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Speaker 1: has not looked good. And then you have God knows who.

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Speaker 1: So just what are your thoughts on the system as

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Speaker 1: a whole? What do you think is the state of

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Speaker 1: the system. It's it's really hard to put it because

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Speaker 1: just a couple of years ago you had some pretty

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Speaker 1: damn good prospects of Look now I'm remembering with Khalit

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Speaker 3: Yeah, well it's kep a positive. I want to hear

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Speaker 2: One hundred percent, and you know that's I'm glad you

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I guess the only I'm not a concern, but

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Speaker 2: A little bit. Yeah, you know, I'm okay with them

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Speaker 2: I think he's going to grow into more strength, tap

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Speaker 2: how's it going. We'll catch up after this. I just

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Speaker 2: You guys know he's one of my guys. Do the

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Speaker 2: It's it's funny because I've been getting to Marlin fans

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Speaker 2: tweet at me about, I'm like, let me go watch

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Speaker 2: these at bats and see what change. There wasn't really

431
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Speaker 2: any adjustment in the box, but there was a much

432
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Speaker 2: more i would say comfortable approach. His takes look so easy,

433
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Speaker 2: like not even twitching, just so relaxed. I think you

434
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Speaker 2: saw a guy that was much more comfortable. The game

435
00:19:13,760 --> 00:19:15,679
Speaker 2: looks slower to him, and now all of a sudden,

436
00:19:16,320 --> 00:19:18,960
Speaker 2: the contact rates are above average, the zone contact rates

437
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Speaker 2: are well above average, his chase rates are elite, and

438
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Speaker 2: he's hitting the ball hard enough. The one hole I

439
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Speaker 2: would poke in his game, like if there's one thing,

440
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Speaker 2: he puts them all on the ground too. Much. But

441
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Speaker 2: that said, if you walk, you hit the ball at

442
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Speaker 2: least slightly above average in terms of how hard you

443
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Speaker 2: hit it, and you don't swing and miss much, that'll play.

444
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Speaker 2: And we're talking about what the Marlins are getting or

445
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Speaker 2: not getting right now from shortstop. Amaya's a great defender.

446
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Speaker 2: I think if he played a full big league season,

447
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Speaker 2: he's graded out, as you know, above average at shortstop.

448
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Speaker 2: And I think that's enough for the Marlins to seriously

449
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Speaker 2: consider calling this guy up. And he's point blank one

450
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Speaker 2: of the hottest hitters in the minor league's period right now,

451
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Speaker 2: and that's pretty impressive in Triple A and he's still

452
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Speaker 2: only twenty four, So I think the Marlins are gonna

453
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Speaker 2: give him a look pretty soon. I think they're really

454
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Speaker 2: now just figuring out who would have to go for

455
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Speaker 2: them to do that and how do they clear up

456
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Speaker 2: that spot.

457
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Speaker 1: And he's going to provide you power at the short

458
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Speaker 1: sell position. I mean you don't obviously with this organization.

459
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Speaker 1: You have Naci Munias.

460
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Speaker 2: Who now was giving you a little bit, and then

461
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Speaker 2: you have Yedie who gives it to you a little bit.

462
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Speaker 1: And besides that, I mean, it's it's it's a Maaya

463
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Speaker 1: Amaya with five homers in the month of May and

464
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Speaker 1: sell sixteen RBIs. He's putting the ball in play, he's

465
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Speaker 1: getting on base, he's doing everything he has to do.

466
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Speaker 1: I mean, really, I think he's proven what he's had

467
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Speaker 1: to prove in triple A. And obviously it's only one month,

468
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Speaker 1: but I think it's big sample size to say, you know,

469
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Speaker 1: you're doing more than what Joey Wendall's currently doing right

470
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Speaker 1: now at the middle leagues right to John Birdie. So

471
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Speaker 1: and you know, nothing against John Berry, he's been all right,

472
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Speaker 1: but man, I think I think it's time to call

473
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Speaker 1: it the Maya.

474
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Speaker 2: Well for what it's worth to that last we talk

475
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Speaker 2: about the power. The home run he hit yesterday was

476
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Speaker 2: the hardest hit ball of the year for him, so

477
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Speaker 2: something I don't know if he was like no feeling

478
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Speaker 2: hundred percent or you just need to get his legs

479
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Speaker 2: under him or whatever it was, but he's also hit

480
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Speaker 2: them all harder now, So that was interesting. Two one

481
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Speaker 2: hundred and seven point four off the bat, and that

482
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Speaker 2: home run off of Luke Farrell that went four to

483
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Speaker 2: forty seven, Like that wasn't something that he was doing

484
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Speaker 2: much of early in the year. And again when you

485
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Speaker 2: do it at altitude, not the egg of velocity, but

486
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Speaker 2: more the distance. You see four forty at out two.

487
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Speaker 2: You take that with a grain of salt. That's a

488
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Speaker 2: legit homer. And again like that's a guy that I

489
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Speaker 2: think could hit fifteen home runs at the big league

490
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Speaker 2: level if he hits enough, and we're seeing him hit enough.

491
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Speaker 2: So I think the Marlins are pretty close to giving

492
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Speaker 2: Jacob Umaya a shot, and I think he's just about

493
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Speaker 2: earned it.

494
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Speaker 1: And then sticking with short stop, I want to get

495
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Speaker 1: into Nasiem Nunyaz, who arguably the best defender defensive shortstop

496
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Speaker 1: in this system for Miami's. He's shown the power he's

497
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Speaker 1: been getting on base at a higher rate. I mean,

498
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Speaker 1: no real complaints with nasie at the moment and switch

499
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Speaker 1: hit her. I mean he's been good. And I think

500
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Speaker 1: you mentioned this today and when I was listening to

501
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Speaker 1: the call up that once Amaia gets called up, it's

502
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Speaker 1: probably not seen the Triple A.

503
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Speaker 2: I think it could be because I think Nuniez is

504
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Speaker 2: a guy who will actually benefit from Triple A a

505
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Speaker 2: little bit. He is again, like staying with the theme

506
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Speaker 2: of patients, Nasim Nunias voters on passive, but you're okay

507
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Speaker 2: with a guy like him being passive because he's not

508
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Speaker 2: afraid to go into three two counts. He talked about

509
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Speaker 2: it on the call up. Also, he's like, I don't care,

510
00:22:20,800 --> 00:22:22,560
Speaker 2: you got to make three pitches to me and I

511
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Speaker 2: like my chances. And you know, I don't like that

512
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Speaker 2: mentality if you're you know, a power guy taking some

513
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Speaker 2: fastballs that you could hit. But if you're nassy Nunia

514
00:22:29,880 --> 00:22:31,600
Speaker 2: is a scrappy guy who's super fast and has a

515
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Speaker 2: lot of confidence and his ability to put the ball

516
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Speaker 2: in play and has a smaller strike zone. I like that.

517
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Speaker 2: And and the big difference in strike zone size that

518
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Speaker 2: the biggest difference you're gonna see. It's not between high

519
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Speaker 2: and double A, it's double A to triple A. That's

520
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Speaker 2: where it's going to most closely mirror what you're gonna

521
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Speaker 2: see at the big league level. So I think Nazim

522
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Speaker 2: Nuniaz's approach will actually play to his favor a bit

523
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Speaker 2: more in triple A and those pitchers are less effectively

524
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Speaker 2: wild and they're more around the zone. I also think

525
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Speaker 2: that'll play into his favor. And then you also have

526
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Speaker 2: the fact that you know you don't have those base balls,

527
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Speaker 2: which I think for guy like him it might it

528
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Speaker 2: might also help him. Nunya, he's got to hit a

529
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Speaker 2: little bit more. I think he's shown, like you said,

530
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Speaker 2: a little bit more powers in the ball, a little

531
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Speaker 2: bit harder to in the ball, a little bit more consistently.

532
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Speaker 2: If he can just hit the ball, if he can

533
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Speaker 2: even be a seven to thirty ops guy at the

534
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Speaker 2: highest level, he'll be a multi win player every year

535
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Speaker 2: because he The new rules cater to him so well.

536
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Speaker 2: You can't shift as much. Great, he's one of the

537
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Speaker 2: best defensive shortstops in the minor leagues. Stolen bases are

538
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Speaker 2: encouraged now. Great, he's one of the best best base

539
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Speaker 2: dealers in the entire minor leagues. And that's not you know,

540
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Speaker 2: hyperbolic on either of those fronts. That's one of the

541
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Speaker 2: more fun video dives I've ever done, isna say Nunia's

542
00:23:39,800 --> 00:23:42,800
Speaker 2: defensive shortstop clips. I mean, he does things on the

543
00:23:42,800 --> 00:23:45,879
Speaker 2: baseball field that you know, very few I've seen in

544
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Speaker 2: the minor leagues I've been able to do at shortstop.

545
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Speaker 2: And then we know he's capable of stealing fifty sixty

546
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Speaker 2: bags pretty much every single year. I think he could

547
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Speaker 2: be an everyday shortstop. It's really just gonna come down

548
00:23:55,880 --> 00:23:59,199
Speaker 2: to can he at least put together league average offensive numbers?

549
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Speaker 2: And I think he can.

550
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Speaker 1: Remember he's still just twenty two, And I do want

551
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Speaker 1: to add he's I think all his homers thus far

552
00:24:05,880 --> 00:24:08,439
Speaker 1: have been opposite field homers, So I don't know how

553
00:24:08,480 --> 00:24:10,840
Speaker 1: much we take that into account, but it's impressive that

554
00:24:10,840 --> 00:24:13,120
Speaker 1: the guys not only showing the power, but he's doing it,

555
00:24:13,359 --> 00:24:15,640
Speaker 1: you know, with the opposite field power where he's getting

556
00:24:15,680 --> 00:24:18,160
Speaker 1: those homers in there. And then finally the final shorts

557
00:24:18,160 --> 00:24:20,080
Speaker 1: off well mentioned before we go back to being a

558
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Speaker 1: little negative on the system, is uh. I wanted to

559
00:24:22,400 --> 00:24:25,159
Speaker 1: talk about Khloe Watson, who you mentioned. I think you

560
00:24:25,160 --> 00:24:27,359
Speaker 1: put out a tweet very recently about Klo. You know,

561
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Speaker 1: it's then we start looking back, and you know, we

562
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Speaker 1: started looking at Khlol Watson. You know, besides the two

563
00:24:31,800 --> 00:24:33,560
Speaker 1: to twenty seven matting average, he's still getting on base

564
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Speaker 1: at a high rate ops of seven nineteen two homers

565
00:24:36,440 --> 00:24:39,679
Speaker 1: eight RBIs one seventeen WRC plus and he's walking at

566
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Speaker 1: his sixteen point four rate and striking.

567
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Speaker 2: Out under the league average.

568
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Speaker 1: So a guy who maybe Miami put him back into

569
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Speaker 1: shape after a really rough last season where he got

570
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Speaker 1: I guess you could say internally suspended, sent a triple

571
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Speaker 1: A to learn from guys, and you maybe looks like

572
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Speaker 1: his mental settle is a lot better than it was

573
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Speaker 1: last season, and it's definitely paying off of how he's

574
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Speaker 1: been playing.

575
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Speaker 2: Yeah, one hundred percent, and we're still early enough in

576
00:25:05,119 --> 00:25:08,360
Speaker 2: the season where like a stretch of a few games

577
00:25:08,760 --> 00:25:12,120
Speaker 2: can can skew the overall numbers, and I think Watson,

578
00:25:12,160 --> 00:25:15,200
Speaker 2: if we recorded this four or five days ago, the

579
00:25:15,280 --> 00:25:17,359
Speaker 2: numbers would have looked even better. The tough part with

580
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Speaker 2: the minor leagues is with the new setup. And I

581
00:25:19,720 --> 00:25:22,200
Speaker 2: like it overall, but with the new setup in scheduling,

582
00:25:22,240 --> 00:25:24,720
Speaker 2: you're gonna play the same team six games in a

583
00:25:24,840 --> 00:25:29,280
Speaker 2: row sometimes, and if that organization has a better game

584
00:25:29,320 --> 00:25:32,320
Speaker 2: plan and just has pitchers that are executing really well

585
00:25:32,359 --> 00:25:34,879
Speaker 2: in that moment, you can go through a quick swamp.

586
00:25:35,160 --> 00:25:37,480
Speaker 2: And that's exactly what's happened with Khalil Watson. They played

587
00:25:37,520 --> 00:25:41,040
Speaker 2: quad Cities and in that I think the last four

588
00:25:41,080 --> 00:25:44,160
Speaker 2: or five games he's zero for twenty with like eight

589
00:25:44,240 --> 00:25:47,480
Speaker 2: ks or whatever it is. Those that's brought the numbers down,

590
00:25:47,680 --> 00:25:50,160
Speaker 2: but overall, I think Eli has a tweet q'ed up there.

591
00:25:50,720 --> 00:25:54,000
Speaker 2: The contact rates are up, the swing looks better, his

592
00:25:54,119 --> 00:25:57,080
Speaker 2: strikeout rates down. He's not chasing, he looks like he's

593
00:25:57,119 --> 00:25:59,440
Speaker 2: a plan up there. And again, like you talked about

594
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Speaker 2: some of the off the field issues that he had,

595
00:26:01,720 --> 00:26:04,359
Speaker 2: I kind of saw those spilling into on the field.

596
00:26:04,520 --> 00:26:06,520
Speaker 2: I don't like to speculate, but like, just the way

597
00:26:06,560 --> 00:26:08,720
Speaker 2: I was watching this guy take at bats last year,

598
00:26:08,760 --> 00:26:10,320
Speaker 2: it was just like he was almost one foot in,

599
00:26:10,400 --> 00:26:11,000
Speaker 2: one foot out.

600
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Speaker 3: Yeah. Yeah, Just to be more blunt about it, the

601
00:26:13,680 --> 00:26:14,879
Speaker 3: body language sucked.

602
00:26:15,359 --> 00:26:18,960
Speaker 2: Yes, okay, thank you. He's like the body language was terrible,

603
00:26:19,119 --> 00:26:22,440
Speaker 2: and I saw it on the backfields, and you see

604
00:26:22,440 --> 00:26:25,440
Speaker 2: that spill into the at bats where it's like half

605
00:26:25,480 --> 00:26:27,320
Speaker 2: hearted swing and a pitch that you just shouldn't have

606
00:26:27,320 --> 00:26:29,880
Speaker 2: swung at. That's not the case now, because I think

607
00:26:29,880 --> 00:26:33,159
Speaker 2: this was a kid that finally saw like, hey, it

608
00:26:33,240 --> 00:26:36,119
Speaker 2: doesn't matter how good I was before. It doesn't matter

609
00:26:36,160 --> 00:26:38,520
Speaker 2: how high I was drafted or who I am. They

610
00:26:38,520 --> 00:26:41,560
Speaker 2: will cast you aside real quick if you don't meet

611
00:26:41,560 --> 00:26:45,119
Speaker 2: the standards of professional baseball. And look, he grew up

612
00:26:45,240 --> 00:26:47,080
Speaker 2: and I think he's still in the process of doing so.

613
00:26:47,200 --> 00:26:49,360
Speaker 2: But I've heard nothing but great things about how he's

614
00:26:49,359 --> 00:26:51,920
Speaker 2: been going about his business compared to last year. And again,

615
00:26:51,920 --> 00:26:54,320
Speaker 2: I think it's spilling onto the field as well. He's

616
00:26:54,320 --> 00:26:56,760
Speaker 2: looked really good out there, and I do think that

617
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Speaker 2: he is still a really, really good prospect and some

618
00:27:00,040 --> 00:27:02,000
Speaker 2: one of the Marlins and Marlins fans should be very

619
00:27:02,080 --> 00:27:03,919
Speaker 2: excited about. It's hard to say that there's not a

620
00:27:04,240 --> 00:27:06,600
Speaker 2: or that there's a position player prospect with more upside

621
00:27:06,600 --> 00:27:08,879
Speaker 2: than Khalil Watson, and he's already starting to show that

622
00:27:09,160 --> 00:27:11,040
Speaker 2: pretty well. And I love how much he's already starting

623
00:27:11,040 --> 00:27:12,760
Speaker 2: to get the ball in the air and flash that

624
00:27:12,840 --> 00:27:13,400
Speaker 2: power too.

625
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Speaker 3: Yeah, I think I know where Kevin wants to go

626
00:27:16,359 --> 00:27:19,040
Speaker 3: after this on Khalil's as We're wrapping up pretty soon

627
00:27:19,080 --> 00:27:21,480
Speaker 3: with Armoliden of Jess Baseball talking about Khalili he is

628
00:27:21,480 --> 00:27:23,200
Speaker 3: the top guy from the twenty twenty one draft, right

629
00:27:23,240 --> 00:27:26,720
Speaker 3: after him, they think Joe Mack and I believe you

630
00:27:26,760 --> 00:27:28,480
Speaker 3: were in the Fall League to see him last year

631
00:27:28,480 --> 00:27:30,680
Speaker 3: and he had some nice flashes over there at the

632
00:27:30,680 --> 00:27:34,440
Speaker 3: start of his season up in Eyebloite, at least offensively

633
00:27:34,720 --> 00:27:38,240
Speaker 3: is off to the lack of slugging especially has been

634
00:27:38,320 --> 00:27:41,160
Speaker 3: kind of shocking to me. We were a little conflicted

635
00:27:41,160 --> 00:27:43,480
Speaker 3: as to where to rank him on our own list

636
00:27:43,520 --> 00:27:46,000
Speaker 3: at this moment. Kevin in particular is kind of out

637
00:27:46,119 --> 00:27:48,800
Speaker 3: on him or getting close to being out on him.

638
00:27:48,800 --> 00:27:51,120
Speaker 3: What do you make of where we are with Joe

639
00:27:51,240 --> 00:27:52,439
Speaker 3: Mack at this point?

640
00:27:52,840 --> 00:27:54,719
Speaker 2: He is I think you hit the nail on the head.

641
00:27:54,760 --> 00:27:57,040
Speaker 2: He He's got to be one of the hardest, toughest

642
00:27:57,040 --> 00:28:00,560
Speaker 2: guys to gauge in this in this system, because I

643
00:28:00,680 --> 00:28:02,119
Speaker 2: liked what I saw in the Fall League and it

644
00:28:02,200 --> 00:28:05,120
Speaker 2: looked different than this. In the Fall League, I saw

645
00:28:05,119 --> 00:28:07,440
Speaker 2: a guy with a more present lower half. I saw

646
00:28:07,480 --> 00:28:10,040
Speaker 2: a guy that was whiffing a little bit but also

647
00:28:10,160 --> 00:28:12,879
Speaker 2: had some juice and even talking to some buddies that

648
00:28:12,920 --> 00:28:16,480
Speaker 2: were teammates of his, that we're saying, Man, yeah, I

649
00:28:16,560 --> 00:28:18,240
Speaker 2: like what I see from Joe. He can swing it.

650
00:28:18,359 --> 00:28:21,119
Speaker 2: And that's the same takeaway I had him VP and

651
00:28:21,160 --> 00:28:24,440
Speaker 2: in the games and whatever. And I wanted to chalk

652
00:28:24,480 --> 00:28:26,440
Speaker 2: it up to cold weather in the early going this year,

653
00:28:26,480 --> 00:28:28,600
Speaker 2: because you know, but Max a cold weather kid like

654
00:28:28,640 --> 00:28:30,520
Speaker 2: it shouldn't have been something that affected him as much

655
00:28:30,520 --> 00:28:33,480
Speaker 2: in Bulloyd, And to me, it looks like the lower

656
00:28:33,520 --> 00:28:37,720
Speaker 2: half is like very uninvolved, and that's resulted in a

657
00:28:37,760 --> 00:28:40,280
Speaker 2: pretty high ground ball rate. It's almost near sixty percent,

658
00:28:40,480 --> 00:28:42,320
Speaker 2: and that also will sap your power. I don't know

659
00:28:42,320 --> 00:28:44,360
Speaker 2: if this was an adjustment made to try to be

660
00:28:44,400 --> 00:28:46,880
Speaker 2: more consistent, more simple to the ball, but now he's

661
00:28:46,920 --> 00:28:48,960
Speaker 2: kind of sacrificing the one thing that I liked, which

662
00:28:49,040 --> 00:28:51,960
Speaker 2: was the power that he had, and I just I

663
00:28:52,000 --> 00:28:54,160
Speaker 2: don't like what I'm seeing from the swing right now.

664
00:28:54,320 --> 00:28:58,040
Speaker 2: He's still twenty, he's a high school catcher. I think

665
00:28:58,080 --> 00:29:01,160
Speaker 2: it's very early to be out on somebody like this.

666
00:29:01,560 --> 00:29:03,280
Speaker 2: But again, I mean, we know the track record of

667
00:29:03,320 --> 00:29:05,360
Speaker 2: high school catchers. We know the track record of high

668
00:29:05,360 --> 00:29:09,440
Speaker 2: school catchers with hit tool concerns, which Joe Mack had

669
00:29:09,800 --> 00:29:11,640
Speaker 2: at the time of the draft, So there's plenty of

670
00:29:11,680 --> 00:29:13,720
Speaker 2: reason to be concerned. But I still think you got

671
00:29:13,720 --> 00:29:15,280
Speaker 2: to look at this guy as you know, one of

672
00:29:15,320 --> 00:29:18,200
Speaker 2: the better prospects in terms of upside in the system,

673
00:29:18,320 --> 00:29:19,760
Speaker 2: and you got to give him a little bit more

674
00:29:19,760 --> 00:29:21,920
Speaker 2: time at twenty years old as a catcher in high.

675
00:29:21,800 --> 00:29:25,120
Speaker 1: A So I want to get into the weaknesses of

676
00:29:25,160 --> 00:29:28,240
Speaker 1: this system. Obviously you mentioned it catcher. I think that's

677
00:29:29,160 --> 00:29:31,160
Speaker 1: one of the more obvious ones, because even p Mac

678
00:29:31,200 --> 00:29:34,720
Speaker 1: he's a good offensive prospect. But I mean behind the plate,

679
00:29:34,800 --> 00:29:37,000
Speaker 1: it's it's pretty, it's it's a concern. And then you

680
00:29:37,120 --> 00:29:40,240
Speaker 1: go a little lower. You have Will Banfield, who has

681
00:29:40,320 --> 00:29:42,560
Speaker 1: looked better. And I do want to talk about Banfield

682
00:29:42,560 --> 00:29:44,640
Speaker 1: because he has looked a lot better. I mean he's

683
00:29:44,680 --> 00:29:46,240
Speaker 1: hitting a lot for power. I think a lot of

684
00:29:46,240 --> 00:29:50,000
Speaker 1: his offenses thinks to his power. And I mean defensively

685
00:29:50,000 --> 00:29:51,960
Speaker 1: he's like great, and there's no real other way to

686
00:29:51,960 --> 00:29:54,240
Speaker 1: put He caught Yuri last year, he caught Dax, He's

687
00:29:54,440 --> 00:29:56,400
Speaker 1: caught fitter, I believe this year. I mean they've they've

688
00:29:56,400 --> 00:29:58,880
Speaker 1: all looked good. So no real reason to be worried

689
00:29:58,880 --> 00:30:00,760
Speaker 1: about the defense. But just how do you see this

690
00:30:01,480 --> 00:30:04,440
Speaker 1: the catching position and for the Marlins and the minors,

691
00:30:04,480 --> 00:30:07,280
Speaker 1: because in Triple A it's basically fillers at this point,

692
00:30:07,280 --> 00:30:09,520
Speaker 1: and then you go down and you mentioned Joe Mack

693
00:30:09,600 --> 00:30:11,760
Speaker 1: Bennett Hodeling. Now in Double A he's gone off to

694
00:30:11,840 --> 00:30:14,760
Speaker 1: pretty start there, but it's been pretty bad.

695
00:30:14,880 --> 00:30:18,120
Speaker 2: Besides that, I think Banfield's got to be pretty close

696
00:30:18,120 --> 00:30:20,040
Speaker 2: to a Triple A promotion at this point. You know,

697
00:30:20,040 --> 00:30:21,320
Speaker 2: I think you got to see what he can do

698
00:30:21,440 --> 00:30:24,840
Speaker 2: up there, and I think Banfield is a big leaguer

699
00:30:24,840 --> 00:30:28,520
Speaker 2: in some capacity. I think it might be as a backup. Ultimately,

700
00:30:28,760 --> 00:30:30,200
Speaker 2: I think he you know, we'll see if he sinks

701
00:30:30,280 --> 00:30:32,760
Speaker 2: or swims up there, but I think with what you've

702
00:30:32,760 --> 00:30:35,080
Speaker 2: got defensively there, I like the way that he receives.

703
00:30:35,120 --> 00:30:36,520
Speaker 2: I like the way that he calls games. He talked

704
00:30:36,520 --> 00:30:39,880
Speaker 2: about catching Yuri works really well with him. It's not

705
00:30:39,920 --> 00:30:42,240
Speaker 2: a coincidence. Obviously, there's a lot of talent that's gone

706
00:30:42,240 --> 00:30:45,320
Speaker 2: through Pensacola, but a lot of those pitchers i've worked

707
00:30:45,440 --> 00:30:48,680
Speaker 2: specifically with Banfield and McIntosh and done well, but I think,

708
00:30:48,800 --> 00:30:51,200
Speaker 2: you know, they've looked a little bit more comfortable at

709
00:30:51,200 --> 00:30:54,160
Speaker 2: times with with Banfield, McIntosh, Rakes, and I think that

710
00:30:54,240 --> 00:30:56,560
Speaker 2: there's a good chance for a big league bat there.

711
00:30:56,640 --> 00:31:00,120
Speaker 2: I really love the bat. You look at the swing

712
00:31:00,160 --> 00:31:01,640
Speaker 2: in terms of the eye tests, or you look at

713
00:31:01,680 --> 00:31:03,640
Speaker 2: the metrics, it all looks really good. It's just where

714
00:31:03,680 --> 00:31:07,320
Speaker 2: does he play. But Banfield is I think still a

715
00:31:08,120 --> 00:31:10,600
Speaker 2: decent catching prospect in the respect that he could be

716
00:31:10,920 --> 00:31:14,000
Speaker 2: a decent big league backup, especially with the defense and

717
00:31:14,240 --> 00:31:16,680
Speaker 2: the way he calls a game. But this is a

718
00:31:16,800 --> 00:31:19,200
Speaker 2: number one spot that the Marlins need to address because

719
00:31:20,160 --> 00:31:23,080
Speaker 2: it's just not that easy to find catchers. And we

720
00:31:23,160 --> 00:31:24,960
Speaker 2: know that. I think we've seen that they tried to

721
00:31:24,960 --> 00:31:27,320
Speaker 2: address it, you know, through trade. Obviously that wasn't the move.

722
00:31:27,680 --> 00:31:30,480
Speaker 2: And right now I don't see a lot of promise

723
00:31:30,560 --> 00:31:33,240
Speaker 2: coming up through the miners, even at the lower levels.

724
00:31:33,640 --> 00:31:37,080
Speaker 2: We probably will talk draft another time, but like I'd

725
00:31:37,080 --> 00:31:41,000
Speaker 2: be praying to every God that Kyle Teal falls to you.

726
00:31:41,000 --> 00:31:44,200
Speaker 2: You know, if I'm the Marlins, that's one of my

727
00:31:44,240 --> 00:31:48,720
Speaker 2: favorite prospects in the draft. But that catching is is bad.

728
00:31:48,840 --> 00:31:51,000
Speaker 2: It's it's got to be as bad organizationally for the

729
00:31:51,000 --> 00:31:55,200
Speaker 2: Marlins as it is anywhere else. But if Paul could

730
00:31:55,200 --> 00:31:57,080
Speaker 2: could catch, he they'd be in good shape. I'd say

731
00:31:57,120 --> 00:31:59,720
Speaker 2: he's on a fast track. But unfortunately, I think Paul

732
00:31:59,800 --> 00:32:01,720
Speaker 2: might be you know, best suited somewhere else.

733
00:32:02,720 --> 00:32:04,640
Speaker 1: And then you have to spot tripping out in the

734
00:32:04,720 --> 00:32:07,880
Speaker 1: organization organizationally where you're like, oh, this is kind of

735
00:32:07,840 --> 00:32:10,000
Speaker 1: a weakness. And my only other concern would be for

736
00:32:10,040 --> 00:32:13,480
Speaker 1: the base third base. Yeah, I.

737
00:32:15,000 --> 00:32:17,520
Speaker 2: Would say that the Marlins agree with you, and I

738
00:32:17,560 --> 00:32:20,080
Speaker 2: would say not because I've spoken to them about it,

739
00:32:20,240 --> 00:32:23,440
Speaker 2: but because just the fact that Jacob Barry is actively

740
00:32:23,480 --> 00:32:26,080
Speaker 2: playing third base, I think tells you everything you need

741
00:32:26,080 --> 00:32:28,440
Speaker 2: to know about how they feel about the third base position.

742
00:32:28,640 --> 00:32:30,520
Speaker 2: And I feel really like I don't want to pile

743
00:32:30,560 --> 00:32:33,320
Speaker 2: on the kid as he's struggling as a first round pick,

744
00:32:33,520 --> 00:32:36,640
Speaker 2: and I've I've kind of stopped myself from posting some

745
00:32:36,720 --> 00:32:39,840
Speaker 2: of the some of the clips. But to be fair,

746
00:32:40,040 --> 00:32:42,479
Speaker 2: I think the Marlins are stunting the growth of Jacob

747
00:32:42,480 --> 00:32:44,560
Speaker 2: Barry by asking him to try to figure out how

748
00:32:44,600 --> 00:32:46,640
Speaker 2: to play third base, Like it's that bad out there,

749
00:32:46,680 --> 00:32:50,040
Speaker 2: Like they're really putting him in over his head there.

750
00:32:50,120 --> 00:32:51,680
Speaker 2: I know he's saying all the right things. What is

751
00:32:51,680 --> 00:32:53,520
Speaker 2: he gonna say, I can't play third Like, of course

752
00:32:53,520 --> 00:32:55,360
Speaker 2: he's gonna say I can try and do it, But

753
00:32:55,680 --> 00:32:58,360
Speaker 2: he's trying to get acclimated hitting wise, and he looks

754
00:32:58,520 --> 00:33:01,280
Speaker 2: totally in over his head. Defense. If they put him

755
00:33:01,280 --> 00:33:04,040
Speaker 2: at first, I think he'd be able to relax a

756
00:33:04,040 --> 00:33:06,880
Speaker 2: little bit more and focus on just the bat, which

757
00:33:06,920 --> 00:33:10,200
Speaker 2: is what they drafted him for. I think playing third

758
00:33:10,240 --> 00:33:12,560
Speaker 2: base is wearing him out because it has been really

759
00:33:12,640 --> 00:33:15,680
Speaker 2: rough for him out there. I still have hope the

760
00:33:15,680 --> 00:33:18,360
Speaker 2: Barry can develop into a decent hitter, But again, that

761
00:33:18,400 --> 00:33:21,160
Speaker 2: doesn't help the third base situation. They definitely need to

762
00:33:21,200 --> 00:33:25,200
Speaker 2: look Ultimately, you draft shortstops, I think, and if they

763
00:33:25,280 --> 00:33:27,360
Speaker 2: moved to third base, they moved to third base, So

764
00:33:27,560 --> 00:33:30,240
Speaker 2: I think that's more reflective of just the entire infield

765
00:33:30,280 --> 00:33:34,760
Speaker 2: situation in the Marlins organization more than just specifically third base,

766
00:33:35,840 --> 00:33:36,280
Speaker 2: or to be be.

767
00:33:36,280 --> 00:33:38,840
Speaker 1: Who of the Marrons to maybe get YOI Morales and

768
00:33:38,880 --> 00:33:41,080
Speaker 1: put him at third keep him there Miami.

769
00:33:42,800 --> 00:33:44,880
Speaker 2: I don't think it's a bad idea, man, I would

770
00:33:44,960 --> 00:33:49,160
Speaker 2: I'd be going college college, college unless unless you go

771
00:33:49,240 --> 00:33:51,360
Speaker 2: high school arm that you really like. Tomorrows seem to

772
00:33:51,360 --> 00:33:55,000
Speaker 2: do okay in that regard, but college bats and college

773
00:33:55,000 --> 00:33:57,800
Speaker 2: bats with a little bit, a little bit more data

774
00:33:57,880 --> 00:34:00,560
Speaker 2: driven college bats selections would be nice. There's a lot

775
00:34:00,600 --> 00:34:05,040
Speaker 2: of guys that fit that mold, Morales being one, I

776
00:34:05,080 --> 00:34:07,000
Speaker 2: could see them, you know, falling in love with one

777
00:34:07,040 --> 00:34:09,399
Speaker 2: of the like one of the sons of a big

778
00:34:09,440 --> 00:34:13,000
Speaker 2: leaguer like Jacob Wilson, or going from Gonzalis. Almost I'd

779
00:34:13,080 --> 00:34:14,880
Speaker 2: rather not go that route. I'm gonna be interested to

780
00:34:14,880 --> 00:34:17,080
Speaker 2: see how they go. But the good news is there's

781
00:34:17,120 --> 00:34:18,760
Speaker 2: a lot of college bats in this draft. So hopefully

782
00:34:18,760 --> 00:34:20,200
Speaker 2: they picked the right one this time around.

783
00:34:21,239 --> 00:34:24,239
Speaker 1: Then finally, before we wrap up, I'm gonna talk about

784
00:34:24,280 --> 00:34:26,279
Speaker 1: projects that we were putting more stock into. I mean,

785
00:34:26,640 --> 00:34:28,920
Speaker 1: there are guys in the organization we just don't talk about,

786
00:34:29,000 --> 00:34:32,360
Speaker 1: and I think we have to. I'm gonna maybe steal

787
00:34:32,400 --> 00:34:34,239
Speaker 1: your answer here, and I'm gonna go Dan Meyers from

788
00:34:34,280 --> 00:34:36,160
Speaker 1: Double A because I know you spoke about him today

789
00:34:36,160 --> 00:34:36,680
Speaker 1: on the call up.

790
00:34:37,120 --> 00:34:38,200
Speaker 2: This guy is raking.

791
00:34:38,239 --> 00:34:40,319
Speaker 1: I mean, he had an inside Parker the other day.

792
00:34:40,480 --> 00:34:43,040
Speaker 1: He's hitting twenty five three eighty one, four thirty eight,

793
00:34:43,040 --> 00:34:47,839
Speaker 1: eleven fifty fifteen RBIs ten stolen bases. He's walking at

794
00:34:47,840 --> 00:34:50,640
Speaker 1: a twelve percent rate striking out of seventeen and he

795
00:34:50,680 --> 00:34:53,239
Speaker 1: has a one to twenty nine WRC plus. You know,

796
00:34:53,320 --> 00:34:55,560
Speaker 1: he was a minor league rule five guy, and I

797
00:34:55,560 --> 00:34:57,880
Speaker 1: think Eli said this kind of like a Charles Blonger

798
00:34:57,960 --> 00:35:00,399
Speaker 1: this year, where he's a minor league Rule five guy

799
00:35:00,440 --> 00:35:03,800
Speaker 1: and got drafted to Miami and he's raking and probably

800
00:35:03,840 --> 00:35:06,440
Speaker 1: pushing to make it at some point, make it to

801
00:35:06,480 --> 00:35:10,360
Speaker 1: Triple A. Yeah, I mean, Dane was a pitcher, was

802
00:35:10,440 --> 00:35:13,160
Speaker 1: just as crazy as far. Yeah, and he draft you know,

803
00:35:13,239 --> 00:35:16,040
Speaker 1: two way prospect. They liked him more as a pitcher.

804
00:35:16,080 --> 00:35:18,560
Speaker 2: At first. He's drafted as a pitcher and it didn't

805
00:35:18,600 --> 00:35:21,120
Speaker 2: work out. So he goes, you know, the hitting route

806
00:35:21,200 --> 00:35:24,040
Speaker 2: and then gets hurt. Has barely played and you know

807
00:35:24,440 --> 00:35:26,799
Speaker 2: now like this is really a second full season of hitting.

808
00:35:26,880 --> 00:35:28,880
Speaker 2: So you got to throw the age to the wayside

809
00:35:28,920 --> 00:35:30,480
Speaker 2: when you're looking at that, of course, like you got

810
00:35:30,520 --> 00:35:32,520
Speaker 2: a factor in how old he is. But when I'm

811
00:35:32,560 --> 00:35:34,960
Speaker 2: evaluating him as a prospect, like, I don't care how

812
00:35:34,960 --> 00:35:37,200
Speaker 2: old he is, because in terms of his at bats,

813
00:35:37,200 --> 00:35:40,600
Speaker 2: he's extremely young. And I think he's a heck of

814
00:35:40,640 --> 00:35:42,399
Speaker 2: a hitter, I really do. And I think he's someone

815
00:35:42,400 --> 00:35:45,640
Speaker 2: that you need to take seriously because the bat to

816
00:35:45,680 --> 00:35:47,879
Speaker 2: ball skills are there. He's got more power than four

817
00:35:47,920 --> 00:35:49,440
Speaker 2: home runs right now, it's just trying to get it

818
00:35:49,480 --> 00:35:52,000
Speaker 2: more consistently in the air. And he's a good athlete.

819
00:35:52,239 --> 00:35:54,080
Speaker 2: I love the way he goes about his stuff, and

820
00:35:54,320 --> 00:35:56,320
Speaker 2: I look, I don't know what he's gonna end up being,

821
00:35:56,400 --> 00:35:59,040
Speaker 2: but this was an excellent snag in the minor league

822
00:35:59,120 --> 00:36:01,000
Speaker 2: Roll five, And I think this was a great job

823
00:36:01,000 --> 00:36:03,400
Speaker 2: by the Marlin scouting department because Myers is one of

824
00:36:03,440 --> 00:36:05,879
Speaker 2: those guys that slips through the cracks and you're looking

825
00:36:05,880 --> 00:36:08,239
Speaker 2: for upside. That's someone that maybe hasn't had enough at

826
00:36:08,280 --> 00:36:10,239
Speaker 2: bats to fail where you feel like, oh, this is

827
00:36:10,280 --> 00:36:12,520
Speaker 2: a sample size, it's not going to work. Sample size

828
00:36:12,600 --> 00:36:15,000
Speaker 2: was small, and now we're seeing he smoothed out some

829
00:36:15,040 --> 00:36:16,839
Speaker 2: of those moves in the box and he looks really

830
00:36:16,880 --> 00:36:18,879
Speaker 2: damn good. This guy might be able to hit it off.

831
00:36:18,920 --> 00:36:20,799
Speaker 2: And I think that's a pretty nice pickup given it

832
00:36:20,840 --> 00:36:23,040
Speaker 2: was the minor league phase of the Rule five draft.

833
00:36:23,560 --> 00:36:26,080
Speaker 1: Yeah, anything you want to add on there, Eli or

834
00:36:26,200 --> 00:36:26,640
Speaker 1: you're good.

835
00:36:27,719 --> 00:36:30,080
Speaker 3: I think that's about it. Entering this year, a lot

836
00:36:30,120 --> 00:36:33,480
Speaker 3: of us were pointing to Beloit as the sexiest affiliate

837
00:36:33,520 --> 00:36:35,239
Speaker 3: in this organization and that the winds played down. I

838
00:36:35,280 --> 00:36:39,399
Speaker 3: think Pensacola has overtaken them. Between myers, between the way

839
00:36:39,480 --> 00:36:43,120
Speaker 3: Victor Junior has played the fact that we were talking

840
00:36:43,320 --> 00:36:45,120
Speaker 3: arm you were talking about this, how it feels like

841
00:36:45,480 --> 00:36:47,560
Speaker 3: Troy Johnson and other guys that should have been in

842
00:36:47,600 --> 00:36:50,640
Speaker 3: triple to begin with have been repeating double. So as

843
00:36:50,640 --> 00:36:52,839
Speaker 3: it's turned out, it's all come together and they've been

844
00:36:52,840 --> 00:36:53,520
Speaker 3: winning games.

845
00:36:53,520 --> 00:36:54,319
Speaker 2: For whatever it's worth.

846
00:36:54,320 --> 00:36:56,400
Speaker 3: They had that long winning streak that went like two weeks,

847
00:36:56,719 --> 00:37:00,440
Speaker 3: so that has been a really pleasant surprise that affiliate

848
00:37:00,520 --> 00:37:02,879
Speaker 3: the guys performing there. So hopefully some of those guys

849
00:37:02,920 --> 00:37:04,799
Speaker 3: that are there right now do get a chance maybe

850
00:37:04,840 --> 00:37:06,399
Speaker 3: in the BIGS by the end of the year. Yeah.

851
00:37:06,480 --> 00:37:08,839
Speaker 2: Yeah. The one guy I gets to answer the one

852
00:37:08,920 --> 00:37:11,880
Speaker 2: question that you asked, Kevin, is I'd highlight Troy Johnston

853
00:37:12,000 --> 00:37:15,319
Speaker 2: because it's not just Troy putting up good numbers again,

854
00:37:15,480 --> 00:37:18,080
Speaker 2: just like last year in Double A, it's Troy doing

855
00:37:18,120 --> 00:37:20,720
Speaker 2: it while hitting the ball harder. So that was the questions,

856
00:37:20,719 --> 00:37:22,080
Speaker 2: like how much power is gonna be there for Troy.

857
00:37:22,120 --> 00:37:24,640
Speaker 2: He's hitting the ball harder than he ever has another guy.

858
00:37:24,760 --> 00:37:26,840
Speaker 2: Don't know what the defensive home is. He's gonna probably

859
00:37:26,840 --> 00:37:29,200
Speaker 2: have to play first. But at the end of the day,

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Speaker 2: like he's hitting the ball hard, sitting the ball consistently,

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Speaker 2: he's got a good approach. I think you got to consider,

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Speaker 2: especially getting him a call up to Triple A. I

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Speaker 2: know he struggled up there last year, but this is

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00:37:38,520 --> 00:37:40,279
Speaker 2: a different Troy Johnson. I think this is a little

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Speaker 2: bit more powerful version of him and that might be

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Speaker 2: the difference. So I'd like to see him get the

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Speaker 2: promotion to Triple I don't know what he looks like

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Speaker 2: in the long term, but he's definitely earned that and

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Speaker 2: he's still definitely a guy worth following.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, and there's there's teams that probably love Troy Johnson,

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Speaker 1: and I know there was a team that was willing

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Speaker 1: to take him the Rule five draft the found out

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Speaker 1: this weekend. But no, I mean, he does deserve the

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Speaker 1: promission to triple A. It sucks that right now it's

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Speaker 1: Girar and I believe who else is playing first base?

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Speaker 1: I think it's just Gerar right now. And le Blanc,

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Speaker 1: I think it's just a.

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Speaker 3: It's like a rotating cast of those.

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Speaker 2: It's really I think Troy's a better better prospect than Gerard,

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Speaker 2: to be honest, like, at this at this stage, you

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Speaker 2: combine the hit with the added power. I'd rather see

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Speaker 2: I'd rather see Troy get those at bats at this point,

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Speaker 2: to be honest. Yeah, And he gives.

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Speaker 1: You not He gives you the possibility to have that

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Speaker 1: Dat's ball, and then he also gives you the power,

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00:38:32,960 --> 00:38:34,400
Speaker 1: gives you a balance of both. You can get you

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Speaker 1: some extra base hits. He shed it off ten pounds

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Speaker 1: of weight. He still says he has the power, and

889
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Speaker 1: obviously we've seen it this year. He's getting those triples.

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Speaker 1: I mean, he's doing what he has from Geraar.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, he looked good.

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Speaker 1: I mean, you can't take it away from him. He's

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Speaker 1: looked for the most part. He's been pretty good. It's

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Speaker 1: but it's been more power than contact and Troy. Someone's

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Speaker 1: gonna give you both. But you know, I think that

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Speaker 1: is where're gonna end au e Eli, do you have

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Speaker 1: anything else that or do you think we're good to go?

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Speaker 3: It's a perfect place to end it. Thank you for

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Speaker 3: joining us here on a Memorial Day. And yeah, this

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Speaker 3: has been really insightful. Appreciate it.

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Speaker 2: Thank you so much for having me really pumped for

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Speaker 2: what you guys have going on and fish on first

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Speaker 2: and really excited to follow along. And I hope everybody

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Speaker 2: else is excited about what you guys are doing as I.

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Speaker 1: Am from from Eli, myself from Isaac and popping for

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Speaker 1: a minute. We'll see guys all the next time.

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Speaker 2: Side go Fish