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Become a member today and 10 00:00:19,640 --> 00:00:22,800 Speaker 2: you'll get access to our full shows, unedited, ad free, 11 00:00:22,840 --> 00:00:25,600 Speaker 2: and all put together for you every morning in your inbox. 12 00:00:25,680 --> 00:00:27,560 Speaker 3: We need your help to build the future of independent 13 00:00:27,560 --> 00:00:29,920 Speaker 3: news media and we hope to see you at Breakingpoints 14 00:00:29,960 --> 00:00:35,519 Speaker 3: dot com. Good morning, everybody, Happy Tuesday. I have an 15 00:00:35,560 --> 00:00:37,239 Speaker 3: amazing show for everybody today, What for Soul. 16 00:00:37,360 --> 00:00:39,600 Speaker 2: Indeed, we do a lot of updates for you about 17 00:00:39,600 --> 00:00:42,320 Speaker 2: what we know with regard to the Iron Deal. Trump 18 00:00:42,320 --> 00:00:45,920 Speaker 2: making some interesting comments today about how Sirius should actually 19 00:00:45,960 --> 00:00:48,760 Speaker 2: be in charge of taking care of Hesbola, not Israel. 20 00:00:49,400 --> 00:00:52,959 Speaker 2: NT Yahoo resisting pulling out of Lebanon, so a lot 21 00:00:53,000 --> 00:00:55,160 Speaker 2: to get to their Traja Parsy is going to join 22 00:00:55,240 --> 00:00:57,160 Speaker 2: us to break down his understanding of the deal and 23 00:00:57,160 --> 00:01:01,280 Speaker 2: how it came together, and also the deportation threats against 24 00:01:01,320 --> 00:01:04,400 Speaker 2: him which have been quite significant. We also are going 25 00:01:04,440 --> 00:01:07,440 Speaker 2: to take a look at some new AI stories anthropics 26 00:01:07,520 --> 00:01:10,959 Speaker 2: Dario Amide with some very terrifying and eyebrow raising comments. 27 00:01:11,000 --> 00:01:14,720 Speaker 2: Also a major walkout from another graduation ceremony, this one 28 00:01:14,800 --> 00:01:18,399 Speaker 2: the CEO of Google was speaking, so that is quite 29 00:01:18,400 --> 00:01:19,680 Speaker 2: a significant development there. 30 00:01:19,959 --> 00:01:22,720 Speaker 4: We're taking a look also at the oil markets. 31 00:01:22,920 --> 00:01:26,080 Speaker 2: Let's say that the deal signing happens this Friday, that 32 00:01:26,200 --> 00:01:28,319 Speaker 2: the in sixty days even are able to come to 33 00:01:28,400 --> 00:01:30,720 Speaker 2: some sort of agreement. Obviously a lot of these things have, 34 00:01:30,840 --> 00:01:32,840 Speaker 2: you know, a lot of question marks around them. But 35 00:01:33,080 --> 00:01:36,679 Speaker 2: even given the best case scenario, how long will it 36 00:01:36,720 --> 00:01:39,280 Speaker 2: take for the oil markets to get back to normal? 37 00:01:39,480 --> 00:01:41,800 Speaker 2: We've got some numbers and some data there to show you. 38 00:01:41,840 --> 00:01:43,759 Speaker 2: Were also taking a look at the polls this morning, 39 00:01:43,800 --> 00:01:46,880 Speaker 2: and a very interesting clip of a Maga grandma who 40 00:01:46,920 --> 00:01:50,880 Speaker 2: says that the Trump economy is giving her literal panic attacks. 41 00:01:51,480 --> 00:01:53,760 Speaker 2: So a lot to get to this morning, and for 42 00:01:53,840 --> 00:01:56,640 Speaker 2: the premium subscribers, we will also have the AMA Live 43 00:01:56,720 --> 00:01:57,920 Speaker 2: after we record the show. 44 00:01:57,960 --> 00:01:58,280 Speaker 1: That's right. 45 00:01:58,280 --> 00:02:01,320 Speaker 3: If you want to watch it breaking point, you can 46 00:02:01,360 --> 00:02:03,960 Speaker 3: sign up and become a premium subscriber today everybody who's 47 00:02:03,960 --> 00:02:04,720 Speaker 3: been supporting the show. 48 00:02:04,840 --> 00:02:05,200 Speaker 1: Thank you. 49 00:02:05,200 --> 00:02:07,920 Speaker 3: We had a huge day yesterday actually, so seriously, thank 50 00:02:07,920 --> 00:02:09,640 Speaker 3: you to all of these viewers. Many of the new 51 00:02:09,680 --> 00:02:11,240 Speaker 3: viewers here were here. Go ahead and check out our 52 00:02:11,240 --> 00:02:13,320 Speaker 3: premium service. If you're just watching this on YouTube, please 53 00:02:13,400 --> 00:02:16,320 Speaker 3: hit subscribe to our YouTube channel. If you're listening to podcast, 54 00:02:16,400 --> 00:02:19,080 Speaker 3: share an episode with a friend. But let's go ahead 55 00:02:19,080 --> 00:02:21,920 Speaker 3: and start with Iran. So right now, what we are 56 00:02:21,960 --> 00:02:26,079 Speaker 3: seeing extraordinary new comments from President Trump, who is abroad 57 00:02:26,120 --> 00:02:29,720 Speaker 3: attending the G seven. There's a lot of different bilateral meetings. 58 00:02:29,760 --> 00:02:32,320 Speaker 3: One was with Zelenski. This one was with the Emir 59 00:02:32,440 --> 00:02:35,760 Speaker 3: of Qatar, where he appears to say and to shunt 60 00:02:35,800 --> 00:02:38,959 Speaker 3: Israel under the bus in Lebanon, though of course bb Netanya, 61 00:02:39,040 --> 00:02:39,680 Speaker 3: who is resisting. 62 00:02:39,720 --> 00:02:41,600 Speaker 1: We'll show you that here in just a little bit. 63 00:02:41,600 --> 00:02:43,679 Speaker 3: But here are his comments where he says that if 64 00:02:43,720 --> 00:02:47,600 Speaker 3: Israel can't handle Hasbola, maybe al Qaeda in Syria can. 65 00:02:47,760 --> 00:02:49,320 Speaker 1: Let's take a listen Syria. 66 00:02:49,800 --> 00:02:53,400 Speaker 5: He's pulled that country together amazingly quickly. He's very capable, 67 00:02:54,480 --> 00:02:57,160 Speaker 5: and he's been very good for me. He's protected everything 68 00:02:57,200 --> 00:03:02,440 Speaker 5: that I've asked for. He's done. And if Israel can't 69 00:03:02,480 --> 00:03:07,079 Speaker 5: do the job without killing everyone else. He'll do the job. 70 00:03:07,160 --> 00:03:08,320 Speaker 5: Siria will do the job. 71 00:03:08,680 --> 00:03:10,919 Speaker 1: He'll do the job. Syria will do the job. 72 00:03:11,440 --> 00:03:15,080 Speaker 3: So we're gonna ask al Qaeda to take on Hezbolah. Interesting, 73 00:03:15,520 --> 00:03:17,520 Speaker 3: Let's go to the next one. This is from Trey Yanks. 74 00:03:17,600 --> 00:03:21,200 Speaker 3: He compiled all of Trump's comments throughout the day here 75 00:03:21,240 --> 00:03:24,760 Speaker 3: on Israel and Hezbola. He says, Israel is fighting Hezbola 76 00:03:24,880 --> 00:03:27,760 Speaker 3: too long. Too many people are being killed. You don't 77 00:03:27,800 --> 00:03:30,520 Speaker 3: have to knock down an apartment house every time you're 78 00:03:30,560 --> 00:03:32,640 Speaker 3: looking for somebody. There are a lot of people in 79 00:03:32,639 --> 00:03:35,760 Speaker 3: those apartment houses, if they're not all Habola. I suggested 80 00:03:35,760 --> 00:03:38,840 Speaker 3: to Israel to let Siria take care of Hezbolah. On 81 00:03:38,880 --> 00:03:41,440 Speaker 3: Israel striking Hezbela in Beirut, I did not like that. 82 00:03:41,600 --> 00:03:44,160 Speaker 3: I let them know that. Says the attack was quote 83 00:03:44,160 --> 00:03:46,480 Speaker 3: too much. If Israel can't do the job, He'll do 84 00:03:46,520 --> 00:03:49,640 Speaker 3: the job, Syria will do the job. BBI has to 85 00:03:49,720 --> 00:03:53,520 Speaker 3: be more responsible with respect to Lebanon. I am not 86 00:03:53,760 --> 00:03:56,000 Speaker 3: happy with the way Israel has handled themselves in Lebanon. 87 00:03:56,040 --> 00:03:56,720 Speaker 1: Hisbola. 88 00:03:56,880 --> 00:03:59,400 Speaker 3: Israel would have blown up a long time ago, had 89 00:03:59,440 --> 00:04:04,240 Speaker 3: I not got involved, So that is interesting to say 90 00:04:04,240 --> 00:04:08,360 Speaker 3: the least. And remember Hesbulla, Hebulla and Lebanon remain the 91 00:04:08,520 --> 00:04:12,360 Speaker 3: keystone to this entire thing. The Iranians say it's in 92 00:04:12,400 --> 00:04:16,640 Speaker 3: the memorandum of understanding. The Trump administration briefed a bunch 93 00:04:16,680 --> 00:04:20,800 Speaker 3: of reporters yesterday. They say it's not in the memorandum 94 00:04:20,960 --> 00:04:24,320 Speaker 3: of understanding, and yet there is still full scale freak 95 00:04:24,320 --> 00:04:26,719 Speaker 3: out because we have no idea what's in that memorandum 96 00:04:26,720 --> 00:04:29,360 Speaker 3: of understanding. It hasn't been released. According to the Vice President, 97 00:04:29,520 --> 00:04:32,360 Speaker 3: it is quote a page and a half. The JCPOA 98 00:04:32,480 --> 00:04:34,720 Speaker 3: for reference, was I think one hundred and fifty nine 99 00:04:34,720 --> 00:04:37,960 Speaker 3: pages after it was released. But what we do know 100 00:04:38,160 --> 00:04:40,440 Speaker 3: is that many of the key details which we brought 101 00:04:40,440 --> 00:04:43,640 Speaker 3: you all yesterday, which were reported by the Iranian side 102 00:04:43,640 --> 00:04:46,760 Speaker 3: about what's in it for them, including a three hundred 103 00:04:46,839 --> 00:04:50,520 Speaker 3: billion dollar reconstruction fund, do now appear to be confirmed 104 00:04:50,600 --> 00:04:52,840 Speaker 3: by the Vice President, who was on television yesterday. 105 00:04:52,960 --> 00:04:53,760 Speaker 1: Let's take a listen. 106 00:04:54,240 --> 00:04:56,599 Speaker 6: The Iranians are saying that they're going to have access 107 00:04:56,600 --> 00:04:59,400 Speaker 6: to a three hundred billion dollar reconstruction fucked true or false? 108 00:05:02,279 --> 00:05:05,240 Speaker 7: Well, that's the sort of thing they could have access 109 00:05:05,279 --> 00:05:08,560 Speaker 7: to funded by the Golf Coast Coalition, so long as 110 00:05:08,560 --> 00:05:10,680 Speaker 7: they honor their endo, the obligation. I think that one 111 00:05:10,720 --> 00:05:12,640 Speaker 7: of the things you're going to see ED, and people 112 00:05:12,720 --> 00:05:15,680 Speaker 7: have to be skeptical of this, is that the hardliners 113 00:05:15,720 --> 00:05:19,480 Speaker 7: in the Iranian system will overemphasize the benefits that Iran 114 00:05:19,560 --> 00:05:22,919 Speaker 7: gets while underemphasizing all the things that they have to 115 00:05:23,000 --> 00:05:26,240 Speaker 7: concede and all the things they have to provide in 116 00:05:26,320 --> 00:05:29,680 Speaker 7: order to get these benefits. So we absolutely are open 117 00:05:29,800 --> 00:05:33,560 Speaker 7: to the Gulf Coast countries investing in the reconstruction of Iran, 118 00:05:33,960 --> 00:05:38,200 Speaker 7: but only if Iran ends their nuclear program, ends their 119 00:05:38,279 --> 00:05:41,839 Speaker 7: enriched stockpile of material. And it's really open to an 120 00:05:41,880 --> 00:05:45,600 Speaker 7: inspections and enforcement regime that gives the American people confidence 121 00:05:45,640 --> 00:05:48,200 Speaker 7: they're never going to have a nuclear weapon. So I 122 00:05:48,560 --> 00:05:50,320 Speaker 7: think the dance you're going to see ED, which is 123 00:05:50,360 --> 00:05:53,400 Speaker 7: going to be interesting, is the Iranian media, especially the 124 00:05:53,400 --> 00:05:55,760 Speaker 7: hardline media. They're going to talk a lot about what 125 00:05:55,839 --> 00:05:58,160 Speaker 7: they get without talking about what they give. 126 00:05:58,520 --> 00:06:00,840 Speaker 1: It's important for all of us to correct that record. 127 00:06:00,920 --> 00:06:03,560 Speaker 3: Correcting the record by confirming that the report is true. 128 00:06:03,600 --> 00:06:06,839 Speaker 3: I mean, yeah, listen, you spending however you need. I 129 00:06:06,880 --> 00:06:10,039 Speaker 3: don't care all right, three hundred billion around what we 130 00:06:10,160 --> 00:06:13,840 Speaker 3: destroyed in the country. The bottom line is no sanctions 131 00:06:13,839 --> 00:06:15,760 Speaker 3: and you allow the money to flow, whether it's from 132 00:06:15,760 --> 00:06:19,960 Speaker 3: America or a mysterious bank in Switts. Who was laying 133 00:06:20,000 --> 00:06:23,000 Speaker 3: that out yesterday on the show about these Swiss banks 134 00:06:23,040 --> 00:06:26,880 Speaker 3: that Qatar controls but doesn't really control and will transfer it. 135 00:06:27,120 --> 00:06:28,800 Speaker 3: I don't give a shit which way you do it, 136 00:06:28,839 --> 00:06:31,279 Speaker 3: all right, But the clear, honest truth is that when 137 00:06:31,279 --> 00:06:33,520 Speaker 3: you lose a war, yeah, sometimes you got to pay 138 00:06:33,520 --> 00:06:33,960 Speaker 3: the piper. 139 00:06:34,160 --> 00:06:35,040 Speaker 1: And that's the truth. 140 00:06:35,279 --> 00:06:39,440 Speaker 3: And the Israeli lobby in Washington is losing it over this. 141 00:06:39,760 --> 00:06:42,400 Speaker 1: They should guess what Iran's entire. 142 00:06:42,200 --> 00:06:45,760 Speaker 3: GDP in twenty twenty four was four fifty six billion. 143 00:06:45,960 --> 00:06:47,040 Speaker 1: So this is. 144 00:06:47,279 --> 00:06:52,599 Speaker 3: Three hundred billion in reconstruction funds in addition to sanctions relief, 145 00:06:52,720 --> 00:06:57,479 Speaker 3: in addition to making to requiring like intra golf investment 146 00:06:57,520 --> 00:07:01,280 Speaker 3: and basically de facto normalization of all of these countries' 147 00:07:01,279 --> 00:07:04,920 Speaker 3: relations with Iran, and on top of that for nuclear enrichment. 148 00:07:05,080 --> 00:07:07,520 Speaker 3: That remains the biggest sticking point. And don't get me wrong, 149 00:07:07,560 --> 00:07:09,800 Speaker 3: there's still going to be a ton of fights to 150 00:07:09,840 --> 00:07:12,360 Speaker 3: be had in the interim. Sixty days but to have 151 00:07:12,440 --> 00:07:14,880 Speaker 3: that on the table for Iran, I understand now why 152 00:07:14,880 --> 00:07:17,800 Speaker 3: they took the deal. Yeah, I mean they demanded genuine 153 00:07:18,400 --> 00:07:21,720 Speaker 3: like they demanded full on reparations. We all thought that 154 00:07:21,920 --> 00:07:22,400 Speaker 3: was a joke. 155 00:07:22,680 --> 00:07:23,160 Speaker 1: It's not. 156 00:07:23,640 --> 00:07:26,360 Speaker 3: It's now been confirmed here by the Vice President. But 157 00:07:26,480 --> 00:07:28,880 Speaker 3: this is the reality. This is the reality we have 158 00:07:28,920 --> 00:07:30,400 Speaker 3: to grapple with. I'm fine with it. 159 00:07:30,520 --> 00:07:31,440 Speaker 1: We should never have been. 160 00:07:31,360 --> 00:07:34,160 Speaker 3: Here in the first place, Israel War lobby, You've got 161 00:07:34,200 --> 00:07:34,920 Speaker 3: what you deserve. 162 00:07:35,120 --> 00:07:36,120 Speaker 1: I don't know what else to say. 163 00:07:36,200 --> 00:07:38,920 Speaker 2: And not only those one time funds and the sanctions 164 00:07:38,960 --> 00:07:41,800 Speaker 2: relief obviously, but also an income in perpetuity. 165 00:07:42,040 --> 00:07:45,040 Speaker 4: We're not a toll, but a fee to transit. 166 00:07:45,040 --> 00:07:47,360 Speaker 2: The straight upfore moves is what looks like is going 167 00:07:47,360 --> 00:07:50,880 Speaker 2: to be contemplated here. Going back to the piece about 168 00:07:51,000 --> 00:07:53,920 Speaker 2: Lebanon and Israel and how central this is and these 169 00:07:54,240 --> 00:07:57,200 Speaker 2: disputed characterizations of what is in the memo of understanding, 170 00:07:57,200 --> 00:08:00,280 Speaker 2: et cetera. On Launch Media says that they got their 171 00:08:00,280 --> 00:08:04,040 Speaker 2: hands on the first page of the memo of understanding, 172 00:08:04,320 --> 00:08:07,320 Speaker 2: and Ryan tweeted the sound paragraph one of the MoU 173 00:08:07,360 --> 00:08:10,120 Speaker 2: According to Homwaj, Media says Iran in the US quote 174 00:08:10,400 --> 00:08:13,200 Speaker 2: and their allies in the current war. Obviously that would 175 00:08:13,200 --> 00:08:16,880 Speaker 2: include Israel declare the immediate and permanent termination of military 176 00:08:16,920 --> 00:08:21,800 Speaker 2: operations on all fronts, including in Lebanon, and undertake from 177 00:08:21,880 --> 00:08:25,000 Speaker 2: now on not to initiate any war or any military 178 00:08:25,040 --> 00:08:27,800 Speaker 2: operation against each other, to refrain from the threat or 179 00:08:27,920 --> 00:08:31,480 Speaker 2: use of force against each other, and ensuring the territorial 180 00:08:31,520 --> 00:08:37,040 Speaker 2: integrity and sovereignty of Lebanon. So perhaps that language is 181 00:08:37,080 --> 00:08:39,040 Speaker 2: where there could be you know, I look at that, 182 00:08:39,120 --> 00:08:40,600 Speaker 2: and I say, okay, that means you have to withdraw 183 00:08:40,640 --> 00:08:43,880 Speaker 2: from Lebanon. But perhaps the Israelis look at that and say, well, 184 00:08:43,960 --> 00:08:46,760 Speaker 2: you know, we can ensure the territorial integrity but still 185 00:08:46,840 --> 00:08:51,000 Speaker 2: keep our troops occupying on the ground in Lebanon. In 186 00:08:51,040 --> 00:08:54,280 Speaker 2: any case, Paragraph one is further described as elaborating, how quote, 187 00:08:54,320 --> 00:08:57,080 Speaker 2: the final deal, the Compradsive Agreement in vision to be 188 00:08:57,120 --> 00:08:59,120 Speaker 2: signed within sixty days of the initiation of talks in 189 00:08:59,200 --> 00:09:02,360 Speaker 2: June nineteenth, will confirm the permanent termination of the war 190 00:09:02,400 --> 00:09:06,520 Speaker 2: on all fronts, including in Lebanon. In other provisions of 191 00:09:06,679 --> 00:09:10,680 Speaker 2: this paragraph, and you know, previously when the initial cease 192 00:09:10,760 --> 00:09:14,720 Speaker 2: fire which led to a decline in hostilities between you know, 193 00:09:14,760 --> 00:09:17,520 Speaker 2: all of the various parties. Remember there was that whole 194 00:09:17,880 --> 00:09:21,440 Speaker 2: flack about okay, was Lebanon included or not the Iranians 195 00:09:21,440 --> 00:09:24,120 Speaker 2: and then the pakistanis confirmed. No, Lebanon was in the 196 00:09:24,160 --> 00:09:27,319 Speaker 2: deal and always contemplated. Iran has made it incredibly clear 197 00:09:27,600 --> 00:09:30,600 Speaker 2: and has backed that up with attacks directly on Israel, 198 00:09:30,800 --> 00:09:34,680 Speaker 2: which was the first because they continued to attack within Lebanon. 199 00:09:35,000 --> 00:09:37,800 Speaker 2: So this is truly truly a key point, you know, 200 00:09:37,840 --> 00:09:40,120 Speaker 2: the other piece before we get to some of Netnyahu's 201 00:09:40,120 --> 00:09:45,719 Speaker 2: comments here, because he is politically in a very difficult place. Domestically, 202 00:09:45,840 --> 00:09:49,400 Speaker 2: he was very unpopular before October seventh. He has forestalled 203 00:09:49,440 --> 00:09:53,320 Speaker 2: any sort of reckoning with how October seventh unfolded and 204 00:09:53,400 --> 00:09:55,920 Speaker 2: what you know what problems he may have created in 205 00:09:55,960 --> 00:09:59,320 Speaker 2: the government that enabled the attacks on that day. In 206 00:09:59,360 --> 00:10:02,280 Speaker 2: any he's got his major corruption trial that keeps getting 207 00:10:02,320 --> 00:10:04,800 Speaker 2: pushed off as long as he continues to fight new wars. 208 00:10:05,160 --> 00:10:09,679 Speaker 2: He is facing significant opponents and may actually lose his 209 00:10:09,800 --> 00:10:14,079 Speaker 2: lot as Prime minister. Those supposedly more moderate opponents are 210 00:10:14,120 --> 00:10:17,079 Speaker 2: all hitting him from the right on not being hardline 211 00:10:17,160 --> 00:10:20,120 Speaker 2: enough with regard to Iran, and given where the public 212 00:10:20,240 --> 00:10:25,280 Speaker 2: is in Israel, those attacks have some purchase within Israeli society, 213 00:10:25,520 --> 00:10:27,520 Speaker 2: but in any case, putting him aside for a moment. 214 00:10:27,800 --> 00:10:30,520 Speaker 2: The other dynamic here that's very interesting, Sager, is that 215 00:10:30,640 --> 00:10:33,600 Speaker 2: jade Vance has clearly been put out as the face 216 00:10:34,160 --> 00:10:36,240 Speaker 2: of this deal, and I think he wants to be 217 00:10:36,400 --> 00:10:38,880 Speaker 2: the face of this deal. He wants to sell it 218 00:10:38,880 --> 00:10:41,800 Speaker 2: to the public, he wants to be associated with helping 219 00:10:41,840 --> 00:10:44,400 Speaker 2: to bring this thing to a close. But it has 220 00:10:44,400 --> 00:10:46,920 Speaker 2: also made it so that he has become really the 221 00:10:47,360 --> 00:10:51,000 Speaker 2: target of attacks from neo cons who are too scared 222 00:10:51,400 --> 00:10:54,360 Speaker 2: too directly attack Trump, of course, and so you know, 223 00:10:54,400 --> 00:10:56,160 Speaker 2: it's all, oh, it's Jadie Vance's. 224 00:10:55,880 --> 00:10:57,280 Speaker 4: Fault, give me a break. 225 00:10:57,320 --> 00:11:01,559 Speaker 2: Like we know, in the negotiations and bought, jade Vance 226 00:11:01,679 --> 00:11:03,920 Speaker 2: was stripped of any authority. He kept having it called 227 00:11:03,920 --> 00:11:06,600 Speaker 2: Trump and reportedly met Yahoo as well, getting up from 228 00:11:06,600 --> 00:11:08,120 Speaker 2: the table to show, oh what about this? 229 00:11:08,240 --> 00:11:10,600 Speaker 4: What about that? Had very little authority. 230 00:11:10,640 --> 00:11:13,280 Speaker 2: I mean, this comes directly from Trump, because of course 231 00:11:13,280 --> 00:11:15,640 Speaker 2: it does. You know, he is the one who has 232 00:11:15,679 --> 00:11:17,199 Speaker 2: to at the end of the day say yes, we're 233 00:11:17,200 --> 00:11:20,560 Speaker 2: going forward with this deal. But they see him as 234 00:11:20,679 --> 00:11:22,880 Speaker 2: too powerful of figure. They don't want to go directly 235 00:11:22,920 --> 00:11:25,920 Speaker 2: against him, so instead they're attacking jd Vance, which creates 236 00:11:25,920 --> 00:11:27,120 Speaker 2: an interesting political I was. 237 00:11:27,080 --> 00:11:29,080 Speaker 3: Just ranting to you this morning. These people are the 238 00:11:29,120 --> 00:11:33,600 Speaker 3: most pathetic cowards. They spent three months telling us, Oh, 239 00:11:33,760 --> 00:11:38,640 Speaker 3: nobody controls Trump. He's uncontrollable, he's independent, and he's so wise, 240 00:11:38,760 --> 00:11:40,800 Speaker 3: and he's the one who took us to the war 241 00:11:40,880 --> 00:11:43,960 Speaker 3: with Iron and you are a disloyal you know, to 242 00:11:44,080 --> 00:11:47,520 Speaker 3: attack him and to say he's controlled now whenever it's 243 00:11:47,559 --> 00:11:49,760 Speaker 3: time to be doing a deal after the disastrous war, 244 00:11:49,880 --> 00:11:52,760 Speaker 3: you motherfuckers dragged us into. Now it's like, oh my god, 245 00:11:52,800 --> 00:11:55,360 Speaker 3: he's controlled by his vice president and no. 246 00:11:55,440 --> 00:11:58,559 Speaker 1: Way he's the oning on making Kelly's show. What a disaster. 247 00:11:58,840 --> 00:12:03,080 Speaker 3: Yeah he I mean, they are such pathetic and hours. 248 00:12:02,400 --> 00:12:04,400 Speaker 2: And that now they want the deal to have to 249 00:12:04,400 --> 00:12:05,160 Speaker 2: go through Congress. 250 00:12:05,240 --> 00:12:08,360 Speaker 4: Yeah, whereas when going to war, Trump could do that 251 00:12:08,440 --> 00:12:11,120 Speaker 4: on his own. We want cheese. You gotta have everybody 252 00:12:11,160 --> 00:12:11,600 Speaker 4: sign off. 253 00:12:11,640 --> 00:12:15,200 Speaker 3: Outrage yesterday, John fun has not been briefed on the 254 00:12:15,200 --> 00:12:17,959 Speaker 3: memorandum underset. Oh nobody briefed him on the decision to 255 00:12:18,000 --> 00:12:20,440 Speaker 3: go to war. All right, all right, so you don't know, 256 00:12:20,559 --> 00:12:22,240 Speaker 3: if we can go to war without you, then we 257 00:12:22,240 --> 00:12:23,640 Speaker 3: can get into peace without you. 258 00:12:23,720 --> 00:12:26,080 Speaker 1: Bitch. I mean, I'm sorry I have followed it for you. 259 00:12:26,160 --> 00:12:28,400 Speaker 3: So worked up about this, but it's like living in 260 00:12:28,400 --> 00:12:31,079 Speaker 3: an alternative reality, you know, where all of these these 261 00:12:31,080 --> 00:12:33,920 Speaker 3: people for three months have just been licking Trump's feet. 262 00:12:34,200 --> 00:12:37,720 Speaker 3: And guess what, whenever you know, Trump attacked Iron, it 263 00:12:37,840 --> 00:12:39,840 Speaker 3: was very important. I mean, you can go back and 264 00:12:39,880 --> 00:12:42,679 Speaker 3: look at the record that I blamed Trump. And when 265 00:12:42,720 --> 00:12:45,439 Speaker 3: I went on Tucker Carlson and Megan Kelly's show, you know, 266 00:12:45,480 --> 00:12:47,040 Speaker 3: when we were talking about the whole Israel and I 267 00:12:47,120 --> 00:12:50,440 Speaker 3: was like, no, guys, like, look, yes, Israel, this is Trump. 268 00:12:50,760 --> 00:12:54,880 Speaker 3: So this time around, they can't do that because they're afraid, they're. 269 00:12:54,640 --> 00:12:57,160 Speaker 1: Cowards, and they want to retain some level of influence. 270 00:12:57,240 --> 00:12:59,280 Speaker 3: Now they got to attack Jdvan And by the way, 271 00:12:59,280 --> 00:13:01,760 Speaker 3: the reason I'm spend much time on this this is 272 00:13:01,760 --> 00:13:03,440 Speaker 3: Israel lobby playbook. 273 00:13:03,120 --> 00:13:03,600 Speaker 1: One oh one. 274 00:13:03,640 --> 00:13:07,840 Speaker 3: They are the nastiest, most pathetical, They are the nastiest, 275 00:13:07,960 --> 00:13:12,120 Speaker 3: They have no scruples. They will do anything to defeat 276 00:13:12,160 --> 00:13:15,800 Speaker 3: this deal. Anything true. And you know, three hundred billion, 277 00:13:16,040 --> 00:13:19,400 Speaker 3: this is existential because, by the way, five years from now, 278 00:13:19,400 --> 00:13:21,800 Speaker 3: who's going to have a larger GDP, Iran or Israel? 279 00:13:22,000 --> 00:13:25,000 Speaker 3: Guess and if we have full scale normalization of relations, 280 00:13:25,080 --> 00:13:27,720 Speaker 3: who's going to be maybe more important to the United States. 281 00:13:27,720 --> 00:13:30,320 Speaker 3: Maybe good relations with the country that controls the Straits 282 00:13:30,320 --> 00:13:33,120 Speaker 3: of Hormuz and is exporting all this oil, or this 283 00:13:33,160 --> 00:13:36,640 Speaker 3: will start up nation which is can't stop bombing all 284 00:13:36,679 --> 00:13:39,000 Speaker 3: of its neighbors and causing all kinds of problems. Is 285 00:13:39,000 --> 00:13:41,120 Speaker 3: basically a leach on the United States. Which one of 286 00:13:41,160 --> 00:13:43,439 Speaker 3: those two countries is going to be more important. They 287 00:13:43,440 --> 00:13:47,079 Speaker 3: are going to do everything, and I mean every like, yeah, 288 00:13:47,200 --> 00:13:49,600 Speaker 3: do not put anything off the table. 289 00:13:52,559 --> 00:13:56,560 Speaker 2: Israel the way that they operate now, and their entire 290 00:13:56,800 --> 00:14:01,839 Speaker 2: conception is that we cannot allow any nation in our 291 00:14:01,880 --> 00:14:04,679 Speaker 2: region to rival US, period and that's not you know, 292 00:14:04,760 --> 00:14:08,640 Speaker 2: and that nation doesn't even have to have direct animosity 293 00:14:08,760 --> 00:14:12,040 Speaker 2: or be you know, saying that Israel's the Great Satan 294 00:14:12,120 --> 00:14:15,040 Speaker 2: or the Little Satan or whatever. They just want to 295 00:14:15,120 --> 00:14:19,200 Speaker 2: make sure that there cannot be even the theoretical possibility 296 00:14:19,560 --> 00:14:22,240 Speaker 2: of any threat. But they are too small of a 297 00:14:22,320 --> 00:14:24,600 Speaker 2: nation to be able to pull that off on their own, 298 00:14:24,720 --> 00:14:29,000 Speaker 2: so they require dependence on the US to back up 299 00:14:29,360 --> 00:14:33,360 Speaker 2: that posture. And so if you have an Iran that 300 00:14:33,680 --> 00:14:38,400 Speaker 2: is economically you know, strong, that has clearly demonstrated military 301 00:14:38,600 --> 00:14:44,000 Speaker 2: capability and also geostrategic dominance in the region. That is 302 00:14:44,040 --> 00:14:48,440 Speaker 2: an unacceptable state of affairs for Israel as they have 303 00:14:48,960 --> 00:14:52,880 Speaker 2: currently postured themselves and the expectations that the entire population has. 304 00:14:52,920 --> 00:14:55,040 Speaker 2: I mean, this is not some fringe view. This is 305 00:14:55,080 --> 00:14:58,520 Speaker 2: like pretty much unanimously the view in Israel is that 306 00:14:58,560 --> 00:15:01,240 Speaker 2: they have to make sure there is no even theoretical 307 00:15:01,320 --> 00:15:05,560 Speaker 2: possibility of any nation that can threaten them. So if 308 00:15:05,560 --> 00:15:08,680 Speaker 2: this deal goes through, they are going to have to 309 00:15:08,800 --> 00:15:12,640 Speaker 2: almost like rebuild their entire self conception. They're going to 310 00:15:12,640 --> 00:15:15,960 Speaker 2: have to rebuild their entire approach to the region. I 311 00:15:16,000 --> 00:15:18,600 Speaker 2: think that will create a much more stable region if 312 00:15:18,600 --> 00:15:22,480 Speaker 2: you don't have this rogue, superpower backed, nuclear armed state 313 00:15:22,520 --> 00:15:27,280 Speaker 2: that's constantly going around and bombing their neighbors with absolute 314 00:15:28,000 --> 00:15:31,520 Speaker 2: no accountability whatsoever for the crimes that they commit. But 315 00:15:32,160 --> 00:15:36,160 Speaker 2: in that way, it is existential for Israel. It's existential 316 00:15:36,160 --> 00:15:39,400 Speaker 2: in the way that Israel has been conducting themselves for 317 00:15:39,800 --> 00:15:42,680 Speaker 2: years and years at this point. So that's why there's 318 00:15:42,680 --> 00:15:44,520 Speaker 2: a freak out. Let's go and put a two up 319 00:15:44,520 --> 00:15:47,160 Speaker 2: on the screen here. This is Natanyahu's speaking to the 320 00:15:47,240 --> 00:15:51,400 Speaker 2: nation again. Remember he is under a very strong political 321 00:15:51,440 --> 00:15:56,160 Speaker 2: pressure from the supposed moderates, although they are not moderate 322 00:15:56,240 --> 00:15:58,760 Speaker 2: in any real sense of the word, and have been 323 00:15:58,800 --> 00:16:02,680 Speaker 2: pushing him from the right to be more hawkish, more aggressive. 324 00:16:02,720 --> 00:16:04,560 Speaker 2: So what he says on Lebanon is we created a 325 00:16:04,560 --> 00:16:07,680 Speaker 2: buffer zone, a security zone, and we will remain there 326 00:16:07,720 --> 00:16:11,120 Speaker 2: as long as necessary around one us to withdraw from there. 327 00:16:11,160 --> 00:16:12,080 Speaker 4: That did not happen. 328 00:16:12,120 --> 00:16:14,160 Speaker 2: Do you know why it did not happen, among other reasons, 329 00:16:14,160 --> 00:16:16,880 Speaker 2: because I stood very, very firmly. I was resolute on 330 00:16:16,920 --> 00:16:19,360 Speaker 2: this matter, and I think our American friends respect that 331 00:16:19,440 --> 00:16:23,440 Speaker 2: determination and that stead fastness. So he's saying, we aren't 332 00:16:23,440 --> 00:16:27,360 Speaker 2: withdrawing from Lebanon. We've created what he describes as buffer zone, 333 00:16:27,600 --> 00:16:31,320 Speaker 2: otherwise known as an illegal occupation, something the Israelis know 334 00:16:31,400 --> 00:16:34,600 Speaker 2: quite a lot about. But there he's signaling that he 335 00:16:34,720 --> 00:16:38,000 Speaker 2: is not willing to withdraw from Lebanon. And so you've got, 336 00:16:38,080 --> 00:16:41,360 Speaker 2: you know, some some good language coming from Trump saying, hey, 337 00:16:42,040 --> 00:16:44,960 Speaker 2: Israel needs to be done here. Maybe Siria should get 338 00:16:44,960 --> 00:16:48,320 Speaker 2: involved instead. I don't know what's going on with that one, 339 00:16:48,440 --> 00:16:53,600 Speaker 2: but but will Trump actually take the actions that are 340 00:16:53,600 --> 00:16:58,240 Speaker 2: required to reign Israel in that we've seen some tough words, 341 00:16:58,280 --> 00:17:00,760 Speaker 2: you know, allegedly from Biden in the past and on 342 00:17:00,800 --> 00:17:04,439 Speaker 2: the record now from Trump in public currently. But is 343 00:17:04,480 --> 00:17:07,200 Speaker 2: he going to be willing to actually cut them off, 344 00:17:07,240 --> 00:17:09,719 Speaker 2: to actually say, well, no, we're not doing this, because 345 00:17:10,040 --> 00:17:12,919 Speaker 2: if he did that, it would be very simple to 346 00:17:13,240 --> 00:17:16,160 Speaker 2: compel Israel to, you know, to do what we want 347 00:17:16,160 --> 00:17:18,639 Speaker 2: them to do. We have incredible leverage over them. But 348 00:17:18,720 --> 00:17:21,679 Speaker 2: that's the part that we've never seen, either from Trump 349 00:17:21,800 --> 00:17:25,399 Speaker 2: or certainly from Biden, is the willingness to take actions 350 00:17:25,440 --> 00:17:27,760 Speaker 2: and not just rhetorically express them frustration. 351 00:17:28,000 --> 00:17:31,640 Speaker 3: This is where look, if you're a betting man, which 352 00:17:31,680 --> 00:17:32,200 Speaker 3: side would you do? 353 00:17:32,240 --> 00:17:33,720 Speaker 1: You know, I don't. I don't advocate bets. 354 00:17:33,760 --> 00:17:35,800 Speaker 3: If it were on Calshi, you know what, where which 355 00:17:35,840 --> 00:17:38,840 Speaker 3: way would you put your money? I can lay out this. 356 00:17:39,200 --> 00:17:42,920 Speaker 3: Trump seems very frustrated, desperately wants a deal. You've got 357 00:17:43,000 --> 00:17:46,359 Speaker 3: JD out there. I haven't heard from Pete Hegseth or 358 00:17:47,080 --> 00:17:49,280 Speaker 3: I won't give him one of the nicknames Pete Heggseth 359 00:17:49,560 --> 00:17:53,479 Speaker 3: and or Marco Rubio in a while. These are good things. 360 00:17:53,560 --> 00:17:57,160 Speaker 3: So people have been sidelined. Things can change literally at 361 00:17:57,160 --> 00:17:59,760 Speaker 3: any moment. What needs to happen in the intrum, and 362 00:17:59,840 --> 00:18:01,840 Speaker 3: I hate doing this because I don't usually play the 363 00:18:02,160 --> 00:18:04,760 Speaker 3: inside game. But right now what needs to happen is 364 00:18:04,800 --> 00:18:08,600 Speaker 3: that these Mark Levin type characters and others need to 365 00:18:08,640 --> 00:18:12,480 Speaker 3: be branded as disloyal and anti Trump. That's really what 366 00:18:12,680 --> 00:18:15,200 Speaker 3: the internal game and all that needs to play out us. 367 00:18:15,600 --> 00:18:18,119 Speaker 3: In addition, though, what you need to see is that 368 00:18:18,240 --> 00:18:22,360 Speaker 3: Bebe has to continue to fight for his domestic political ends, 369 00:18:22,359 --> 00:18:25,240 Speaker 3: which is increasingly going to put him directly at odds 370 00:18:25,320 --> 00:18:28,720 Speaker 3: with Trump because Trump reportedly is now very unpopular inside 371 00:18:28,720 --> 00:18:31,280 Speaker 3: of Israel, because the Israelis are furious that anybody would 372 00:18:31,280 --> 00:18:33,280 Speaker 3: tell them no, you know, for the first time in 373 00:18:33,320 --> 00:18:35,080 Speaker 3: their lives. Now again, if I were to bet, I 374 00:18:35,080 --> 00:18:37,080 Speaker 3: would definitely not bet against them. I think the next 375 00:18:37,119 --> 00:18:41,560 Speaker 3: sixty five days genuinely will be insane, and on Lebanon especially, 376 00:18:41,680 --> 00:18:44,360 Speaker 3: like for example, everythings could not be more clear. Let's 377 00:18:44,359 --> 00:18:46,520 Speaker 3: put a six here on the screen. Here you have 378 00:18:46,640 --> 00:18:51,200 Speaker 3: the Iranian Foreign Ministry spokesperson who says explicitly the Iranian 379 00:18:51,200 --> 00:18:54,359 Speaker 3: claimed that the Israeli strike on Beirut backfired, and that 380 00:18:54,480 --> 00:18:59,240 Speaker 3: Lebanon is explicitly referenced three times in the memorandum of understanding, 381 00:18:59,280 --> 00:19:04,600 Speaker 3: including visions territorial sovereignty, territorial integrity, and ending the war. 382 00:19:04,920 --> 00:19:07,600 Speaker 3: You just showed Beebie said I'm not going to do that, 383 00:19:07,800 --> 00:19:10,040 Speaker 3: and in fact put a seven up here on the screen. 384 00:19:10,359 --> 00:19:15,000 Speaker 3: Natanyahu has explicitly said we will not just remain in Lebanon. 385 00:19:15,280 --> 00:19:19,320 Speaker 3: We will remain in Gaza and Syria after the US 386 00:19:19,359 --> 00:19:22,720 Speaker 3: Iran deal is signed. I also love you know, everyone 387 00:19:22,840 --> 00:19:27,400 Speaker 3: just implicitly sits and says, oh yeah, Israel currently occupy 388 00:19:27,480 --> 00:19:29,840 Speaker 3: as we remember I cover it at the time, they 389 00:19:29,920 --> 00:19:32,879 Speaker 3: just annexed a part of Syria and nobody said a 390 00:19:33,040 --> 00:19:36,360 Speaker 3: word here in Washington. They have to facto annexed Lebanon. 391 00:19:36,600 --> 00:19:39,040 Speaker 3: Nobody says a word, but we do know. And this 392 00:19:39,200 --> 00:19:43,440 Speaker 3: is where look, maybe this is me living in a fantasyland. 393 00:19:43,560 --> 00:19:46,879 Speaker 3: If we just pull aid from them, if we just 394 00:19:47,040 --> 00:19:51,000 Speaker 3: do that, that all collapses in a day. They cannot 395 00:19:51,040 --> 00:19:53,320 Speaker 3: defend themselves. Look at them, We have to shoot down 396 00:19:53,320 --> 00:19:56,080 Speaker 3: all their missiles. They're you know, I love reading the 397 00:19:56,119 --> 00:20:00,920 Speaker 3: Israeli press front page horadim riot overdraft. 398 00:20:01,400 --> 00:20:03,439 Speaker 1: You know, their own people don't even want to. 399 00:20:03,440 --> 00:20:06,000 Speaker 3: Fight, and it's like, look at them, you know, they're 400 00:20:06,080 --> 00:20:09,800 Speaker 3: actually a weak society, especially whenever it comes to their 401 00:20:09,840 --> 00:20:12,720 Speaker 3: ability to fight even in Lebanon. I mean, come on, 402 00:20:12,800 --> 00:20:15,480 Speaker 3: the idea. You know, this whole occupation and everything, the 403 00:20:15,560 --> 00:20:17,960 Speaker 3: way that it has gone, it's been a disaster actually 404 00:20:18,000 --> 00:20:20,800 Speaker 3: for the IDF, And the IDF General chief of Staff 405 00:20:20,840 --> 00:20:22,919 Speaker 3: is the person saying that, not even me who is 406 00:20:23,440 --> 00:20:26,160 Speaker 3: arguing about, Oh, it's putting all the strain on the military. 407 00:20:26,200 --> 00:20:27,000 Speaker 1: And then Gaza. 408 00:20:27,080 --> 00:20:29,199 Speaker 3: We all know how they comported themselves there if it 409 00:20:29,200 --> 00:20:31,240 Speaker 3: weren't for bombs. I mean, come on, Their ground forces 410 00:20:31,280 --> 00:20:34,520 Speaker 3: did terribly actually whenever it came to fighting. So they 411 00:20:34,520 --> 00:20:37,639 Speaker 3: cannot sustain any of this without the full force backing 412 00:20:37,880 --> 00:20:40,639 Speaker 3: of the United States of America. But this is where 413 00:20:40,760 --> 00:20:43,199 Speaker 3: I have to give the caution. Let's put AA up 414 00:20:43,240 --> 00:20:45,639 Speaker 3: here on the screen. I took very very close notice 415 00:20:45,640 --> 00:20:47,760 Speaker 3: of this, and I want to highlight it for everybody. 416 00:20:48,240 --> 00:20:52,080 Speaker 3: The CIA director here, John Radcliffe quote told Trump and 417 00:20:52,119 --> 00:20:56,480 Speaker 3: other senior officials intelligence gathered by the US raised serious 418 00:20:56,560 --> 00:21:00,840 Speaker 3: doubts about Iran's willingness to make nuclear CONCESSI as the 419 00:21:00,960 --> 00:21:03,480 Speaker 3: US is seeking a final deal, you are going to 420 00:21:03,520 --> 00:21:08,120 Speaker 3: see perhaps the greatest deep state leak operation of all time, 421 00:21:08,720 --> 00:21:13,080 Speaker 3: maybe only similarly comparable to what happened when Obama tried 422 00:21:13,119 --> 00:21:15,840 Speaker 3: to withdraw from Afghanistan back in two thousand and nine. 423 00:21:16,600 --> 00:21:19,959 Speaker 3: According by the way, even to Barackravid, the CIA director, 424 00:21:20,080 --> 00:21:21,840 Speaker 3: Ratcliffe is here. 425 00:21:22,560 --> 00:21:23,879 Speaker 1: Quote casting doubt. 426 00:21:24,160 --> 00:21:26,919 Speaker 3: As an intelligence analyst, you have Marco Rubio and Pete Hegseth, 427 00:21:26,920 --> 00:21:29,000 Speaker 3: who opposed to the deal. I would generally not bet 428 00:21:29,000 --> 00:21:31,280 Speaker 3: against the Secretary of State and the Secretary of Defense here, 429 00:21:31,359 --> 00:21:34,400 Speaker 3: who both you know, control vast resources allies. They can 430 00:21:34,600 --> 00:21:36,439 Speaker 3: create things and do things as they want. They have 431 00:21:36,520 --> 00:21:40,160 Speaker 3: control of these intelligence agencies, of diplomatic memos, of cables. 432 00:21:40,320 --> 00:21:43,080 Speaker 3: Remember Rubio is also not just the Secretary of State, 433 00:21:43,119 --> 00:21:45,840 Speaker 3: He's also the National Security Advisor, so he runs the 434 00:21:46,000 --> 00:21:47,560 Speaker 3: policy shop out of the White House. 435 00:21:47,680 --> 00:21:49,960 Speaker 1: They can very easily manipulate these things. 436 00:21:50,080 --> 00:21:53,359 Speaker 3: They also have a vast leak apparatus from the New 437 00:21:53,440 --> 00:21:56,639 Speaker 3: York Times and barackra Vid and all of these others. 438 00:21:56,720 --> 00:21:59,520 Speaker 3: Stenographers will write anything right, and so you can give 439 00:21:59,560 --> 00:22:03,520 Speaker 3: them whatever you need. All of this intelligence and other 440 00:22:03,560 --> 00:22:07,080 Speaker 3: things will all be laundered through the neo conservative press 441 00:22:07,320 --> 00:22:11,159 Speaker 3: and be used explicitly as a way to attack, attack, attack, 442 00:22:11,200 --> 00:22:14,600 Speaker 3: and to shape the decision matrix so that every night 443 00:22:14,640 --> 00:22:17,160 Speaker 3: on Fox News it will be a drum beat about 444 00:22:17,200 --> 00:22:19,280 Speaker 3: how Trump is doing the wrong thing. 445 00:22:19,560 --> 00:22:20,480 Speaker 1: Can he sustain that? 446 00:22:20,720 --> 00:22:23,600 Speaker 3: Obviously no, we watched what happened, and so that's my 447 00:22:23,720 --> 00:22:26,520 Speaker 3: last caution is the three hundred, Like the contours of 448 00:22:26,520 --> 00:22:28,560 Speaker 3: the deal as of right now actually look like something 449 00:22:28,680 --> 00:22:29,480 Speaker 3: that could work. 450 00:22:29,720 --> 00:22:31,160 Speaker 1: Button Let's be real. 451 00:22:31,480 --> 00:22:34,680 Speaker 3: This is a full on existential threat to Israel as 452 00:22:34,720 --> 00:22:37,960 Speaker 3: we know it and to their entire lobby here in Washington. 453 00:22:37,960 --> 00:22:40,840 Speaker 3: And I would never bet against these people the Ratcliffe thing. 454 00:22:41,040 --> 00:22:43,160 Speaker 3: When I saw that, I was like, here we go, 455 00:22:43,359 --> 00:22:46,600 Speaker 3: Like this is day one. Now imagine day thirty five, 456 00:22:47,000 --> 00:22:50,000 Speaker 3: like the New York Times stories about all the warnings 457 00:22:50,040 --> 00:22:53,080 Speaker 3: from HEGSAT and by the way, they're all starting to 458 00:22:53,119 --> 00:22:57,199 Speaker 3: start being real honest. Now for one hundred days we 459 00:22:57,280 --> 00:23:00,879 Speaker 3: heard Iran's military has been decimated. We're actually going to 460 00:23:00,880 --> 00:23:02,880 Speaker 3: get the truth because they're going to use it as 461 00:23:02,880 --> 00:23:05,480 Speaker 3: a pretext for why we shouldn't do the Well, we're 462 00:23:05,520 --> 00:23:07,919 Speaker 3: going to get the real figures on the ballistic missiles. 463 00:23:07,960 --> 00:23:09,800 Speaker 3: We're going to get I just saw my first segment 464 00:23:09,800 --> 00:23:14,080 Speaker 3: on Fox News yesterday. Actually Iron's military hasn't been decimated. 465 00:23:14,160 --> 00:23:16,200 Speaker 3: First time they've said it in a one hundred days right, 466 00:23:16,240 --> 00:23:18,840 Speaker 3: so you're you're actually going to get the truth about 467 00:23:18,840 --> 00:23:22,800 Speaker 3: Iran's military and its ballistic missile program and maybe even 468 00:23:22,840 --> 00:23:25,480 Speaker 3: it's nuclear enrichment and all. Listen, I don't care about 469 00:23:25,520 --> 00:23:26,879 Speaker 3: any of that, but they're going to use it as 470 00:23:26,880 --> 00:23:29,600 Speaker 3: a pretext. So I'm just set in the space that 471 00:23:29,800 --> 00:23:32,200 Speaker 3: the next you know, third sixty days, it's going to 472 00:23:32,280 --> 00:23:33,320 Speaker 3: be wild. 473 00:23:33,080 --> 00:23:35,800 Speaker 2: Just like how we went from after the Twelve Day War, like, oh, 474 00:23:35,840 --> 00:23:38,000 Speaker 2: there are nuclear programs totally decimated too. 475 00:23:38,160 --> 00:23:40,240 Speaker 4: Well, actually, no it's. 476 00:23:40,000 --> 00:23:41,480 Speaker 2: Not, and now we need to go to war to 477 00:23:41,480 --> 00:23:43,680 Speaker 2: make sure that they can not produce a neular weapon. 478 00:23:43,760 --> 00:23:46,359 Speaker 3: Just wait, it's going to be It's going to be something, 479 00:23:46,560 --> 00:23:48,879 Speaker 3: but it'll be fun to cover it all with you. Okay, 480 00:23:48,920 --> 00:23:50,119 Speaker 3: we have treat to party staying by. 481 00:23:50,160 --> 00:23:50,800 Speaker 1: Let's get to it. 482 00:23:53,520 --> 00:23:55,560 Speaker 3: Very excited now to be joined by our great friend 483 00:23:55,600 --> 00:23:59,800 Speaker 3: Treata Parsi, who has found himself under attack by the 484 00:24:00,000 --> 00:24:04,160 Speaker 3: despicable Barry Weiss. Let's start with B zero up here 485 00:24:04,160 --> 00:24:06,200 Speaker 3: on the screen. I do want to draw this to 486 00:24:06,200 --> 00:24:11,879 Speaker 3: everyone's attention. Doctor Parsi has found himself attacked by the 487 00:24:11,920 --> 00:24:16,840 Speaker 3: Free Press, who allegedly reported that he was being considered 488 00:24:16,920 --> 00:24:21,560 Speaker 3: for deportation. So Dropsite, Breaking Points and the American Conservative 489 00:24:21,600 --> 00:24:24,119 Speaker 3: have all started this petition to stand with treat to 490 00:24:24,160 --> 00:24:26,679 Speaker 3: Parsi against deportation. There will be a link down in 491 00:24:26,720 --> 00:24:29,320 Speaker 3: the description, and we encourage you to add your name 492 00:24:29,560 --> 00:24:32,000 Speaker 3: to this petition to show the United States government how 493 00:24:32,040 --> 00:24:34,879 Speaker 3: many American citizens stand here with our friend. But we 494 00:24:34,920 --> 00:24:38,000 Speaker 3: are going to start first of all for his great 495 00:24:38,000 --> 00:24:40,880 Speaker 3: analysis of the situation and of this war. And let's 496 00:24:40,920 --> 00:24:43,120 Speaker 3: put a zero B up here on the screen. Sir, 497 00:24:43,320 --> 00:24:47,200 Speaker 3: you give us some comments here about Trump's latest musings 498 00:24:47,200 --> 00:24:50,600 Speaker 3: on Hezbolah. So here he says Israel is fighting Habola 499 00:24:50,680 --> 00:24:53,960 Speaker 3: too long, Too many people are being killed. You don't 500 00:24:54,000 --> 00:24:56,240 Speaker 3: have to knock down an apartment house every time you're 501 00:24:56,280 --> 00:24:57,720 Speaker 3: looking for somebody. There are a lot of people in 502 00:24:57,760 --> 00:25:00,640 Speaker 3: those apartment houses. They're not all has Bola. I suggested 503 00:25:00,640 --> 00:25:03,960 Speaker 3: to Israel to let Syria take care of Hezbolah and 504 00:25:04,080 --> 00:25:08,320 Speaker 3: quote I did not like that Trump striking Israel striking beirute. 505 00:25:08,320 --> 00:25:09,320 Speaker 1: And I let them know that. 506 00:25:09,359 --> 00:25:11,800 Speaker 3: What do you make of these kind of musings here 507 00:25:11,800 --> 00:25:14,359 Speaker 3: on Israel and Hezbolah, which remains one of the key 508 00:25:14,400 --> 00:25:16,960 Speaker 3: problems for Trump in actually attaining the ceasefire. 509 00:25:17,880 --> 00:25:21,280 Speaker 8: Well, Trump is pushing back against Israelis trying to sabotage 510 00:25:21,320 --> 00:25:24,560 Speaker 8: his deal, and he's doing so not simply by saying, hey, 511 00:25:24,640 --> 00:25:28,919 Speaker 8: don't salvotage my deal. He's going after specific methods that 512 00:25:28,960 --> 00:25:31,840 Speaker 8: these Raelis are using to build up opinion against Israel. 513 00:25:32,000 --> 00:25:35,000 Speaker 8: He's criticizing them for the massive amount of collateral damage 514 00:25:35,000 --> 00:25:39,120 Speaker 8: that they're totally fine with inflicting, whereas the US itself 515 00:25:39,160 --> 00:25:41,960 Speaker 8: follows different rules. And it was under the Biden administration 516 00:25:42,400 --> 00:25:45,440 Speaker 8: that the United States just lifted all restrictions on Israel. 517 00:25:45,440 --> 00:25:47,720 Speaker 8: They could do whatever they wanted, and of course Trump 518 00:25:47,800 --> 00:25:50,320 Speaker 8: continued that for a while, but he's hinting here now 519 00:25:50,359 --> 00:25:52,399 Speaker 8: that he's going to restrict that by saying that you 520 00:25:52,440 --> 00:25:55,199 Speaker 8: don't have to kill and take down entire apartment building. 521 00:25:55,680 --> 00:25:59,919 Speaker 8: The Israelis attacked Lebanon just hours before the electronic signing, 522 00:26:00,200 --> 00:26:03,399 Speaker 8: knowing very well that that was an Iranian red line 523 00:26:03,560 --> 00:26:06,480 Speaker 8: and also an implicit American red line. It was a 524 00:26:06,520 --> 00:26:09,800 Speaker 8: clear attempt by them to sabbotage this. And I think 525 00:26:09,880 --> 00:26:12,200 Speaker 8: that you know, their hands is shown now and I 526 00:26:12,200 --> 00:26:15,080 Speaker 8: think the glasses are off. The Trump administration is clearly 527 00:26:15,160 --> 00:26:18,520 Speaker 8: seeing what the Israelis are intending to do and the 528 00:26:18,720 --> 00:26:21,440 Speaker 8: only way to prevent them from doing so. It's not 529 00:26:21,560 --> 00:26:24,280 Speaker 8: just these comments. I think they're helpful. It's not just 530 00:26:24,359 --> 00:26:27,200 Speaker 8: these angry phone calls, although I'm pleased to hear about them. 531 00:26:27,600 --> 00:26:30,000 Speaker 8: They have to make it very clear the United States 532 00:26:30,160 --> 00:26:33,200 Speaker 8: is not going to go into a war that Israel 533 00:26:33,280 --> 00:26:37,760 Speaker 8: starts against America's wishes, because the incentive for these Raelis 534 00:26:37,800 --> 00:26:40,000 Speaker 8: is that they believe that by starting these wars they 535 00:26:40,000 --> 00:26:42,679 Speaker 8: can drag the US into it. If you can make 536 00:26:42,720 --> 00:26:46,160 Speaker 8: it absolutely clear that will not work. It will also 537 00:26:46,200 --> 00:26:49,280 Speaker 8: disincentivize these Raelis from going down that path because there's 538 00:26:49,280 --> 00:26:51,680 Speaker 8: no value for them doing so if they can't get 539 00:26:51,680 --> 00:26:54,440 Speaker 8: the United States to get dragged in. And this has 540 00:26:54,480 --> 00:26:56,240 Speaker 8: to be done not just orally, but also make it 541 00:26:56,280 --> 00:26:58,720 Speaker 8: clear militarily, we're not going to be there for it. 542 00:26:58,920 --> 00:27:00,080 Speaker 4: Yeah. 543 00:27:00,320 --> 00:27:03,359 Speaker 2: Times of Israel headline right now says amid us Iran deal, 544 00:27:03,440 --> 00:27:07,560 Speaker 2: IDF says Hezbolah continues attacking troops in South Lebanon. We've 545 00:27:07,600 --> 00:27:11,280 Speaker 2: already had at least one IDF drone strike within Lebanon. 546 00:27:11,440 --> 00:27:14,440 Speaker 2: How much do you think that Iran will tolerate of this? 547 00:27:15,400 --> 00:27:18,359 Speaker 8: Well, it depends between when we are talking about it. 548 00:27:18,480 --> 00:27:22,600 Speaker 8: Will they tolerate it right now? Probably? Will they tolerate 549 00:27:22,640 --> 00:27:26,560 Speaker 8: it after Friday? Probably not? And they will not tolerate 550 00:27:26,600 --> 00:27:29,159 Speaker 8: even though at this point it is Beirut that is 551 00:27:29,160 --> 00:27:33,119 Speaker 8: the redline. I suspect that from the signing or at 552 00:27:33,200 --> 00:27:35,639 Speaker 8: least shortly thereafter, it will be all of Lebanon. And 553 00:27:35,680 --> 00:27:37,879 Speaker 8: then they're going to be very adamant about this because 554 00:27:37,920 --> 00:27:42,720 Speaker 8: if they allow for some strikes in southern Lebanon, well, 555 00:27:42,760 --> 00:27:45,359 Speaker 8: then eventually the Israelis are going to push forward and 556 00:27:45,359 --> 00:27:47,119 Speaker 8: push forward and push forward. So I think there's going 557 00:27:47,160 --> 00:27:49,280 Speaker 8: to be a very firm line there, at least that's 558 00:27:49,320 --> 00:27:50,679 Speaker 8: what they're going to have to do if they want 559 00:27:50,720 --> 00:27:54,240 Speaker 8: to keep this together. But at the same time, it 560 00:27:54,560 --> 00:27:58,960 Speaker 8: very much also relies on them holding back Hezbola and 561 00:27:59,040 --> 00:28:02,000 Speaker 8: Hisbola will not be held back if the Israelis are 562 00:28:02,040 --> 00:28:06,439 Speaker 8: still inside of Lebanon. The Hezbola will not tolerate that 563 00:28:06,280 --> 00:28:11,040 Speaker 8: the Israelis are occupying parts of Lebanon because otherwise this 564 00:28:11,200 --> 00:28:16,080 Speaker 8: agreement disease fire can end up cementing an Israeli occupation 565 00:28:16,359 --> 00:28:19,280 Speaker 8: of Lebanon. So I think the US is also going 566 00:28:19,320 --> 00:28:21,480 Speaker 8: to have to push to Israelis very hard to get 567 00:28:21,520 --> 00:28:23,879 Speaker 8: out of Lebanon in order to make sure that that 568 00:28:24,160 --> 00:28:27,480 Speaker 8: front does not jeopardize the much more important front from 569 00:28:27,480 --> 00:28:31,400 Speaker 8: the Trump administration's perspective, which is to end this war with. 570 00:28:31,400 --> 00:28:33,919 Speaker 3: You on Yeah, sir, I do want you know. One 571 00:28:33,960 --> 00:28:37,040 Speaker 3: of the warnings I gave before we were interviewing you 572 00:28:37,280 --> 00:28:40,240 Speaker 3: is just about the sheer force of the Israel lobby 573 00:28:40,320 --> 00:28:42,360 Speaker 3: and what they are about to bring down on the 574 00:28:42,400 --> 00:28:45,720 Speaker 3: head of Donald Trump. You lived through the original Israel 575 00:28:45,760 --> 00:28:51,720 Speaker 3: lobby attacks and ongoing from Barry Wise herself. But what 576 00:28:51,760 --> 00:28:55,680 Speaker 3: we are watching here with Ben Shapiro and others is 577 00:28:55,720 --> 00:28:58,400 Speaker 3: a serious, serious threat that I don't want to diminish 578 00:28:58,480 --> 00:29:00,959 Speaker 3: in any way to Donald Trump and really to the 579 00:29:01,080 --> 00:29:03,640 Speaker 3: entire country. Let's take a listen here to a preview 580 00:29:03,680 --> 00:29:04,840 Speaker 3: of what we're going to be hearing now for the 581 00:29:04,920 --> 00:29:05,680 Speaker 3: next sixty days. 582 00:29:05,760 --> 00:29:06,880 Speaker 1: Let's take a listen to Shapiro. 583 00:29:07,280 --> 00:29:10,160 Speaker 9: Israel is going to have to respond to terrorism across 584 00:29:10,200 --> 00:29:10,680 Speaker 9: its border. 585 00:29:10,720 --> 00:29:11,440 Speaker 1: As we'll see. 586 00:29:11,760 --> 00:29:14,280 Speaker 9: If the United States is going to suddenly become an 587 00:29:14,320 --> 00:29:17,800 Speaker 9: advocate for the idea that Israel can't defend itself, then 588 00:29:17,800 --> 00:29:19,760 Speaker 9: this is a giant l for the United States, and 589 00:29:19,920 --> 00:29:22,680 Speaker 9: suddenly there's no difference between Israel defending itself and isabel 590 00:29:22,720 --> 00:29:28,960 Speaker 9: Ot firing missiles and rockets at Israelis in Israeli territory. Okay, 591 00:29:29,000 --> 00:29:31,920 Speaker 9: this is the problem. If you keep sending the signal 592 00:29:32,120 --> 00:29:35,280 Speaker 9: to a terror backing regime that chance death to America. 593 00:29:36,000 --> 00:29:37,640 Speaker 9: That you want to deal with them so badly that 594 00:29:37,680 --> 00:29:39,600 Speaker 9: you're going to tell our allies in the region to 595 00:29:39,760 --> 00:29:44,040 Speaker 9: stand down. You are giving them an enormous amount of 596 00:29:44,120 --> 00:29:48,680 Speaker 9: for momentum, and that is a huge mistake, huge mistake. 597 00:29:48,400 --> 00:29:51,080 Speaker 3: And a giant l here for the United States. The 598 00:29:51,080 --> 00:29:53,840 Speaker 3: total fusing, Sir of Israeli a US interest. 599 00:29:54,880 --> 00:29:58,400 Speaker 8: There is no separate you know, disconceptually to separate them 600 00:29:59,000 --> 00:30:01,520 Speaker 8: is wrong from their person. Look, I think we have 601 00:30:01,600 --> 00:30:04,040 Speaker 8: to remind ourselves of one very important thing. Yes, you're 602 00:30:04,080 --> 00:30:06,680 Speaker 8: absolutely right, Sagar, this is going to be extremely tough. 603 00:30:07,400 --> 00:30:12,560 Speaker 8: But Obama did win this fight. Obama defeated them back 604 00:30:12,600 --> 00:30:15,400 Speaker 8: in twenty fifteen and defeated them in Congress as well, 605 00:30:15,440 --> 00:30:18,600 Speaker 8: when there was this massive fight, and then every Republican 606 00:30:18,680 --> 00:30:21,800 Speaker 8: was voting with these Radis at that time. That means 607 00:30:21,800 --> 00:30:23,320 Speaker 8: that this can be one again. But it's going to 608 00:30:23,320 --> 00:30:25,160 Speaker 8: be a hell of a fight. There's no doubt about it. 609 00:30:25,160 --> 00:30:28,000 Speaker 8: It's after Obama won the fight that they managed to 610 00:30:28,000 --> 00:30:31,200 Speaker 8: destroy the deal by commencing Trump in twenty eighteen to 611 00:30:31,240 --> 00:30:34,200 Speaker 8: withdraw from the deal. But short of that, the president, 612 00:30:34,280 --> 00:30:38,480 Speaker 8: once he puts down his foot, the track record is 613 00:30:38,520 --> 00:30:41,800 Speaker 8: one in which he gets his way because these rallies, 614 00:30:42,000 --> 00:30:43,520 Speaker 8: at the end of the day, despite the fact that 615 00:30:43,520 --> 00:30:47,800 Speaker 8: they can put forward a tremendous amount of resistance and 616 00:30:48,360 --> 00:30:52,080 Speaker 8: inflict significant political costs on the president, the president will win. 617 00:30:52,320 --> 00:30:56,080 Speaker 8: The question is will he put down his foot firmly 618 00:30:56,560 --> 00:31:01,479 Speaker 8: and focus on this matter, prioritize it, get distracted, and 619 00:31:01,560 --> 00:31:05,160 Speaker 8: not let himself be convinced that it's better off for 620 00:31:05,280 --> 00:31:06,560 Speaker 8: him not to fight this fight. 621 00:31:06,960 --> 00:31:07,160 Speaker 2: Now. 622 00:31:07,240 --> 00:31:10,400 Speaker 8: One thing I think is really fascinating when it comes 623 00:31:10,400 --> 00:31:14,040 Speaker 8: to how the Trump administration is talking about this deal 624 00:31:14,440 --> 00:31:17,080 Speaker 8: trying to sell this deal to the American public, which 625 00:31:17,120 --> 00:31:19,880 Speaker 8: is really different from the manner in which the Obama 626 00:31:19,920 --> 00:31:23,880 Speaker 8: administration did it, is that the Obama administration only focused 627 00:31:23,920 --> 00:31:27,880 Speaker 8: on this as a nuclear deal. They love talking about 628 00:31:27,880 --> 00:31:30,280 Speaker 8: the nuclear details, about all of the guarantees and all 629 00:31:30,320 --> 00:31:33,200 Speaker 8: of the inspections, and they never wanted to touch on 630 00:31:33,280 --> 00:31:36,200 Speaker 8: the idea that this could be the beginning of a 631 00:31:36,240 --> 00:31:39,560 Speaker 8: better relationship between the two countries, that this could lead 632 00:31:39,560 --> 00:31:42,680 Speaker 8: to a transformation of the region. If that were to happen, 633 00:31:42,720 --> 00:31:46,200 Speaker 8: that would be a valid and valuable bonus. But it 634 00:31:46,240 --> 00:31:47,880 Speaker 8: was not something that they want to use as a 635 00:31:47,920 --> 00:31:51,200 Speaker 8: selling point, nor did they even embrace the idea that 636 00:31:51,240 --> 00:31:53,200 Speaker 8: it would be a good thing to have a better 637 00:31:53,240 --> 00:31:57,479 Speaker 8: relationship with von After this, Jade Vance's talking points are 638 00:31:57,520 --> 00:32:00,320 Speaker 8: completely the reverse of this. He's starting off by saying, Hey, 639 00:32:00,360 --> 00:32:04,400 Speaker 8: this is going to transform us Iron relations, this is 640 00:32:04,440 --> 00:32:07,520 Speaker 8: going to transform the region as a whole, because we're 641 00:32:07,520 --> 00:32:10,000 Speaker 8: going to end this enmity. Trump is talking about this 642 00:32:10,120 --> 00:32:12,640 Speaker 8: as a peace steal. I think if you want to 643 00:32:12,680 --> 00:32:15,920 Speaker 8: fight the Israelis on this in Washington, that is exactly 644 00:32:15,960 --> 00:32:18,560 Speaker 8: the right way to do it. To go full on 645 00:32:19,040 --> 00:32:22,600 Speaker 8: and explain that this is about changing the entire relationship 646 00:32:22,680 --> 00:32:25,440 Speaker 8: and the region, enable the United States to get out 647 00:32:25,480 --> 00:32:27,480 Speaker 8: of the Middle East because we shouldn't be there in 648 00:32:27,520 --> 00:32:31,480 Speaker 8: the first place, and sell that to the American public 649 00:32:31,800 --> 00:32:37,000 Speaker 8: instead of focusing on completely boring nuclear details that you know, 650 00:32:37,080 --> 00:32:39,840 Speaker 8: most Americans will not be able to fully understand anyways, 651 00:32:39,880 --> 00:32:41,920 Speaker 8: because none of them are The vast majority of us 652 00:32:41,960 --> 00:32:45,440 Speaker 8: are not nuclear scientists. So I find that very fascinating. 653 00:32:45,480 --> 00:32:48,120 Speaker 8: It's completely reverse of how the Obama administration approached this. 654 00:32:48,440 --> 00:32:51,640 Speaker 2: Yeah, which makes sense stylistically, could not be more difference 655 00:32:51,720 --> 00:32:54,120 Speaker 2: between the Obama administration and this administration. 656 00:32:54,720 --> 00:32:55,760 Speaker 4: I wanted to play for you. 657 00:32:56,080 --> 00:32:59,160 Speaker 2: Mark tieson who Trump had held up, you know, during 658 00:32:59,480 --> 00:33:02,200 Speaker 2: the hostel, is someone we should all be paying attention to. 659 00:33:02,400 --> 00:33:04,680 Speaker 2: Is very much in favor of the Iran war and 660 00:33:04,720 --> 00:33:08,160 Speaker 2: now is very concerned about the potential end of war 661 00:33:08,280 --> 00:33:12,200 Speaker 2: against Iran. He is raising specific concerns about the three 662 00:33:12,240 --> 00:33:15,920 Speaker 2: hundred billion dollar reconstruction fund. This is be three guys, 663 00:33:15,960 --> 00:33:17,160 Speaker 2: let's go ahead and take a listen to this. 664 00:33:17,600 --> 00:33:18,360 Speaker 1: Apparently we're going. 665 00:33:18,360 --> 00:33:20,720 Speaker 6: To give them, you know, we're going to give them sanctions, 666 00:33:20,760 --> 00:33:24,840 Speaker 6: relief and reconstruction based on performance. But that means that 667 00:33:24,880 --> 00:33:27,040 Speaker 6: we're going to be giving them a lifeline to revive 668 00:33:27,120 --> 00:33:30,600 Speaker 6: their regime after we had decimated it. That is a 669 00:33:30,760 --> 00:33:34,000 Speaker 6: that is a huge problem because the Iranians may comply 670 00:33:34,120 --> 00:33:35,840 Speaker 6: for a short period of time, but then we're going 671 00:33:35,920 --> 00:33:37,760 Speaker 6: to have a week American president and they're going to 672 00:33:37,800 --> 00:33:40,320 Speaker 6: have gotten the money. And then there's talk of a 673 00:33:40,400 --> 00:33:43,680 Speaker 6: reconstruction fund of hundreds of billions of dollars we didn't. 674 00:33:43,840 --> 00:33:46,200 Speaker 6: They'll be like doing a Marshall Plan for Germany while 675 00:33:46,200 --> 00:33:47,560 Speaker 6: the Nazis were still in power. 676 00:33:48,040 --> 00:33:50,960 Speaker 1: So I'm anxious to see. 677 00:33:50,800 --> 00:33:54,000 Speaker 6: What the details of THEDLR and what gets negotiated. 678 00:33:54,040 --> 00:33:55,640 Speaker 1: But I'm concerned. I agree. 679 00:33:55,960 --> 00:33:57,640 Speaker 2: It seems like, you know, this is one of the 680 00:33:57,680 --> 00:34:01,920 Speaker 2: primary attacks on the understanding as we understand it and 681 00:34:01,960 --> 00:34:05,040 Speaker 2: a potential deal. You heard from Shapiro and also Levin 682 00:34:05,080 --> 00:34:07,840 Speaker 2: as we played earlier, that you know this is contrary 683 00:34:07,840 --> 00:34:11,360 Speaker 2: to Israel's interest and put is very unfair to Israel. 684 00:34:11,960 --> 00:34:14,600 Speaker 2: You also had John Podora saying, you know, Trump chicken out, 685 00:34:14,719 --> 00:34:17,520 Speaker 2: sort of like going straight at his manhood and his 686 00:34:17,640 --> 00:34:20,960 Speaker 2: masculinity and saying this is embarrassing and humiliating for him. 687 00:34:21,480 --> 00:34:23,440 Speaker 4: But on the on the financial. 688 00:34:22,960 --> 00:34:25,480 Speaker 2: Aspect of this, you know, what do we know about 689 00:34:25,719 --> 00:34:28,319 Speaker 2: how this is all going to work out? And how 690 00:34:28,360 --> 00:34:31,480 Speaker 2: do you think that the administration will try to spin that? 691 00:34:31,800 --> 00:34:34,440 Speaker 2: Because of course, the right under the JCPOA, we heard 692 00:34:34,560 --> 00:34:37,360 Speaker 2: endlessly about these palettes of cash, and you know have 693 00:34:37,440 --> 00:34:39,640 Speaker 2: heard about this for years and years afterwards, I'm sure 694 00:34:39,640 --> 00:34:41,839 Speaker 2: Trump has talked about it as well. And so now 695 00:34:41,840 --> 00:34:44,080 Speaker 2: you have significant amount of money that is going to 696 00:34:44,120 --> 00:34:47,319 Speaker 2: flow to Iran, much of which is their own assets. However, 697 00:34:47,360 --> 00:34:49,439 Speaker 2: it seems like a difficult piece for them to try 698 00:34:49,440 --> 00:34:49,879 Speaker 2: to sell. 699 00:34:50,640 --> 00:34:53,520 Speaker 8: So I'm hearing this critique also from some folks from 700 00:34:53,520 --> 00:34:55,880 Speaker 8: the Democratic side, and oh my god, they're going to 701 00:34:55,880 --> 00:34:59,560 Speaker 8: get investments. Let's separate a couple of things. First of all, 702 00:34:59,640 --> 00:35:02,240 Speaker 8: you have the unfreezing of their assets as a result 703 00:35:02,280 --> 00:35:05,399 Speaker 8: of sanctions. Relieve, that's their own money that they will 704 00:35:05,440 --> 00:35:07,920 Speaker 8: have access to again, which is what they use in 705 00:35:08,000 --> 00:35:11,400 Speaker 8: order to be able to buy food, medicine or other things. 706 00:35:12,320 --> 00:35:15,239 Speaker 8: Then you have what is called this investment fund. We 707 00:35:15,320 --> 00:35:19,000 Speaker 8: have to remember Yvonians have suffered three hundred billion dollars 708 00:35:19,080 --> 00:35:22,719 Speaker 8: plus in damages as a result of this war. So 709 00:35:22,800 --> 00:35:25,320 Speaker 8: this is a reconstruction fund that whether the US is 710 00:35:25,360 --> 00:35:26,719 Speaker 8: going to be part of it or not, we don't 711 00:35:26,719 --> 00:35:29,840 Speaker 8: know yet, but it is an investment fund. This is 712 00:35:29,880 --> 00:35:32,759 Speaker 8: the other countries in the region saying, okay, we are 713 00:35:32,840 --> 00:35:35,960 Speaker 8: now going to try to have an economic relationship with 714 00:35:36,040 --> 00:35:40,440 Speaker 8: yvon integrate ourselves with Ivanian economy as a way of 715 00:35:40,600 --> 00:35:45,520 Speaker 8: building a buffer against a future war, because we want 716 00:35:45,520 --> 00:35:48,200 Speaker 8: to make sure that we clearly cannot just rely on 717 00:35:48,239 --> 00:35:51,200 Speaker 8: American basis or American weapons that actually ended up being 718 00:35:51,239 --> 00:35:54,080 Speaker 8: a detriment to our security. So we're going to have 719 00:35:54,120 --> 00:35:56,680 Speaker 8: to move away from this idea of just completely containing 720 00:35:56,719 --> 00:35:59,040 Speaker 8: the Yvonians. We have to integrate with them as well. 721 00:35:59,200 --> 00:36:01,120 Speaker 8: And if we do that, we will build bridges that 722 00:36:01,280 --> 00:36:04,040 Speaker 8: enables peace to actually flourish in the region in the 723 00:36:04,200 --> 00:36:08,440 Speaker 8: very same manner that after Second World War the Europeans 724 00:36:08,719 --> 00:36:11,839 Speaker 8: needed to rebuild Germany in order to make sure that 725 00:36:11,880 --> 00:36:14,640 Speaker 8: they integrated all of their economies and raise the cost 726 00:36:14,719 --> 00:36:17,799 Speaker 8: of war. That is actually a very good thing. Now. 727 00:36:17,800 --> 00:36:19,040 Speaker 8: I don't know if the US is going to be 728 00:36:19,080 --> 00:36:22,200 Speaker 8: participating in it or not, But if the region wants 729 00:36:22,239 --> 00:36:24,960 Speaker 8: to do this, and this is primarily going to be 730 00:36:25,000 --> 00:36:28,319 Speaker 8: a regional thing, why on earth should the United States 731 00:36:28,360 --> 00:36:31,840 Speaker 8: stand against that or even argue against that. Shouldn't it 732 00:36:31,880 --> 00:36:34,200 Speaker 8: be be better for everyone if they actually are doing 733 00:36:34,239 --> 00:36:36,799 Speaker 8: things for themselves in order to be able to make 734 00:36:36,920 --> 00:36:39,480 Speaker 8: peace more viable and more less likely. 735 00:36:39,880 --> 00:36:40,760 Speaker 1: We should be very. 736 00:36:40,600 --> 00:36:42,799 Speaker 8: Happy about them. We should be very happy that as 737 00:36:42,880 --> 00:36:44,880 Speaker 8: part of this deal, we're actually giving the region a 738 00:36:44,960 --> 00:36:46,879 Speaker 8: chance to take care of these matters on their own 739 00:36:47,160 --> 00:36:49,719 Speaker 8: and make sure that they can do things on their 740 00:36:49,760 --> 00:36:52,640 Speaker 8: own that leads to peace rather than to the United 741 00:36:52,640 --> 00:36:55,120 Speaker 8: States having to push, you know, build more bases there 742 00:36:55,160 --> 00:36:56,720 Speaker 8: or bring more troops to that region. 743 00:36:57,320 --> 00:36:58,960 Speaker 3: One of the things, though, sir, is that you know, 744 00:36:59,000 --> 00:37:01,360 Speaker 3: as we continue to run then I was just looking. 745 00:37:01,440 --> 00:37:05,240 Speaker 3: Israel's whole economy is only five hundred billion. Iran's ROMP 746 00:37:05,280 --> 00:37:08,160 Speaker 3: economy is four hundred and thirty seven billion. So an 747 00:37:08,239 --> 00:37:12,920 Speaker 3: un sanctioned, reconstructed Iran would be a many times bigger 748 00:37:13,160 --> 00:37:17,239 Speaker 3: economic powerhouse in addition to strategic powerhouse, which would mean 749 00:37:17,440 --> 00:37:20,160 Speaker 3: it's more important to the region, more important to the 750 00:37:20,239 --> 00:37:22,440 Speaker 3: United States. But that's part of the reason why it 751 00:37:22,520 --> 00:37:25,879 Speaker 3: seems to be so existential for them, and we're wasps 752 00:37:25,920 --> 00:37:26,439 Speaker 3: in their press. 753 00:37:26,480 --> 00:37:27,040 Speaker 1: Yeah, go go. 754 00:37:27,000 --> 00:37:29,240 Speaker 8: Ahead, absolutely, I mean, this is part of the reason 755 00:37:29,239 --> 00:37:31,480 Speaker 8: why the Israelis started to push for sanctions back in 756 00:37:31,520 --> 00:37:34,279 Speaker 8: the mid nineteen nineties, in order to make sure that 757 00:37:34,360 --> 00:37:38,120 Speaker 8: Iran would not emerge as a potential rival to Israel 758 00:37:38,480 --> 00:37:42,480 Speaker 8: as a strategic partner for the United States. After the 759 00:37:42,480 --> 00:37:45,319 Speaker 8: Cold War, the Israelis found themselves in a very, very 760 00:37:45,320 --> 00:37:49,040 Speaker 8: dire situation. They were an outpost against Soviet penetration of 761 00:37:49,080 --> 00:37:51,600 Speaker 8: the region, but there was no longer Soviet Union, and 762 00:37:51,640 --> 00:37:55,040 Speaker 8: then the Persian Gulf War led to a scenario in 763 00:37:55,080 --> 00:37:58,160 Speaker 8: which the US actually moved closer to the Arab states 764 00:37:58,160 --> 00:38:01,080 Speaker 8: in the region, and Israel was increasingly seen as a 765 00:38:01,120 --> 00:38:04,720 Speaker 8: liability rather than a strategic asset. It's during this period 766 00:38:04,760 --> 00:38:08,480 Speaker 8: that the Israelis reframe their reliance, their alliance with the 767 00:38:08,560 --> 00:38:10,959 Speaker 8: United States to not be a strategic one, but rather 768 00:38:11,040 --> 00:38:13,759 Speaker 8: one based on shared values. I have no idea what 769 00:38:13,800 --> 00:38:16,880 Speaker 8: that means, but nevertheless, that's when that term was coming up, 770 00:38:16,960 --> 00:38:21,359 Speaker 8: precisely because the strategic underpinning of the relationship was now 771 00:38:21,440 --> 00:38:26,080 Speaker 8: significantly weakened. And in that context, if the US and 772 00:38:26,120 --> 00:38:28,759 Speaker 8: event actually rebuild their relations, and I'm not saying they 773 00:38:28,840 --> 00:38:30,719 Speaker 8: will because I don't think there will be a partnership 774 00:38:30,719 --> 00:38:33,160 Speaker 8: on an alliance, but if they were, this is a 775 00:38:33,160 --> 00:38:35,319 Speaker 8: country that has gas, that has oil, that has a 776 00:38:35,400 --> 00:38:39,640 Speaker 8: huge strategic locations geopolitically can control. This Rait of Hormuz, 777 00:38:39,960 --> 00:38:44,120 Speaker 8: has a market of ninety plus million people. If sanctions 778 00:38:44,120 --> 00:38:46,520 Speaker 8: are lifted, is probably going to be an economy three 779 00:38:46,560 --> 00:38:49,360 Speaker 8: to four times the size of Israel. Has an industrial 780 00:38:49,400 --> 00:38:52,480 Speaker 8: basis scientific base that is only second to none to 781 00:38:52,680 --> 00:38:55,160 Speaker 8: Israel as itself. So it has all of the different 782 00:38:55,200 --> 00:38:57,840 Speaker 8: things that could enable it to be a major, major 783 00:38:57,880 --> 00:39:00,520 Speaker 8: player and an acid to the United States. One of 784 00:39:00,520 --> 00:39:03,360 Speaker 8: the key things that held it back is partly the 785 00:39:03,400 --> 00:39:07,280 Speaker 8: sanctions and Yvon's own government because of their mismanagement, because 786 00:39:07,280 --> 00:39:11,680 Speaker 8: of their repressure, because of their corruption, and because of 787 00:39:11,680 --> 00:39:15,400 Speaker 8: a political system that is just not capable of allowing 788 00:39:15,400 --> 00:39:17,480 Speaker 8: the country to live up to its full potential. 789 00:39:17,920 --> 00:39:18,480 Speaker 1: But this is. 790 00:39:18,400 --> 00:39:20,440 Speaker 8: Something that these Raelis have been worried about for a 791 00:39:20,480 --> 00:39:23,120 Speaker 8: very long time, and this is a nightmare scenario for them, 792 00:39:23,480 --> 00:39:27,360 Speaker 8: not only that Trump would end the war but also 793 00:39:27,480 --> 00:39:30,960 Speaker 8: lift the sanctions because the war weakens Yvon in the 794 00:39:31,040 --> 00:39:36,279 Speaker 8: short term. Sanctions destroys the country over decades, slowly but 795 00:39:36,360 --> 00:39:40,040 Speaker 8: surely destroys its social fabric. And the Israelis have been 796 00:39:40,080 --> 00:39:43,640 Speaker 8: successful in having major sanctions on Iran for more than 797 00:39:43,680 --> 00:39:46,719 Speaker 8: three or so decades. Now to see those lifted would 798 00:39:46,760 --> 00:39:50,799 Speaker 8: be an absolutely devastating blow to their approach and to 799 00:39:51,200 --> 00:39:53,160 Speaker 8: how they define their interests in the region. 800 00:39:53,520 --> 00:39:56,840 Speaker 2: Let's put B five up just to underscore your point here. 801 00:39:57,000 --> 00:39:59,520 Speaker 2: You know, you've got some quotes here and harets from 802 00:39:59,600 --> 00:40:01,600 Speaker 2: various Nen Yahoo allies. 803 00:40:01,719 --> 00:40:02,640 Speaker 4: Don't bullshit us. 804 00:40:02,680 --> 00:40:08,360 Speaker 2: Trump raging at the treacherous United States over the Iran deal. 805 00:40:09,080 --> 00:40:11,680 Speaker 2: What does this mean for Israel? You know, let's say, 806 00:40:11,719 --> 00:40:13,400 Speaker 2: I mean, look, there's still a lot of question marks. 807 00:40:13,400 --> 00:40:16,200 Speaker 2: But let's say the official signing happens this Friday. 808 00:40:16,280 --> 00:40:17,680 Speaker 4: Let's say we get sixty days. 809 00:40:17,440 --> 00:40:19,280 Speaker 2: Down the road and they're able to come to terms 810 00:40:19,280 --> 00:40:22,640 Speaker 2: on the nuclear file and the other major outstanding issues 811 00:40:22,960 --> 00:40:26,800 Speaker 2: which remain, and the sanctions are lifted and Iran is 812 00:40:26,840 --> 00:40:31,840 Speaker 2: able to begin to rebuild. There is no regime change 813 00:40:32,480 --> 00:40:36,200 Speaker 2: so far. It doesn't look like, you know, the proxy 814 00:40:36,239 --> 00:40:40,200 Speaker 2: funding is contemplated as part of this deal either. How 815 00:40:40,239 --> 00:40:43,520 Speaker 2: will Israel have to change, what will they have to 816 00:40:43,840 --> 00:40:45,560 Speaker 2: reckon with? And what do you think that this will 817 00:40:45,560 --> 00:40:48,760 Speaker 2: mean for Netanyahu in his own political standing? 818 00:40:49,880 --> 00:40:51,279 Speaker 8: First of all, on the last part of that, this 819 00:40:51,440 --> 00:40:53,880 Speaker 8: is going to be devastating for Natanyao, And part of 820 00:40:53,880 --> 00:40:57,120 Speaker 8: the reason why you have this public meltdown in Israel 821 00:40:57,239 --> 00:41:01,040 Speaker 8: is also politically motivated. It's all about the upcoming elections 822 00:41:01,080 --> 00:41:03,600 Speaker 8: and to finally unseat him, and he will probably end 823 00:41:03,680 --> 00:41:06,560 Speaker 8: up going to jail afterwards. So this is from his 824 00:41:06,640 --> 00:41:13,040 Speaker 8: standpoint existential. But for Israel, the Israelis could adjust to 825 00:41:13,080 --> 00:41:16,759 Speaker 8: this reality, change your security doctrine, recognize that they have 826 00:41:16,840 --> 00:41:18,640 Speaker 8: to find some sort of a modus vivendi with a 827 00:41:18,680 --> 00:41:20,799 Speaker 8: lot of different countries in the region, that they will 828 00:41:20,800 --> 00:41:24,720 Speaker 8: not have security by constantly dominating their environment and thinking 829 00:41:24,719 --> 00:41:28,000 Speaker 8: that they have to have total maneuverability in Syria, in 830 00:41:28,040 --> 00:41:31,960 Speaker 8: the West Bank, in Lebanon in order to be secure 831 00:41:31,960 --> 00:41:35,160 Speaker 8: but actually vie for real peace, something that we have 832 00:41:35,320 --> 00:41:37,839 Speaker 8: absolutely not seen from the Israeli government for at least 833 00:41:37,880 --> 00:41:42,439 Speaker 8: fifteen or so plus years. But I think, frankly more 834 00:41:42,600 --> 00:41:46,440 Speaker 8: likely is that they will not have the capacity intellectually, creatively, 835 00:41:46,520 --> 00:41:50,799 Speaker 8: emotionally to be able to steer their ship in a 836 00:41:50,840 --> 00:41:54,759 Speaker 8: different direction, and instead you will see further attempts by 837 00:41:54,800 --> 00:41:58,399 Speaker 8: the Israelis to sabotage this deal even after the sixty days, 838 00:41:58,440 --> 00:42:04,240 Speaker 8: even after it's been established, just as they did with 839 00:42:04,360 --> 00:42:07,600 Speaker 8: the JCPO. I think I mentioned on Talker's show yesterday 840 00:42:07,640 --> 00:42:10,239 Speaker 8: that I sat down with APAC after the JCPA and 841 00:42:10,280 --> 00:42:12,360 Speaker 8: I thought that, Okay, now it's going to be interesting 842 00:42:12,400 --> 00:42:14,240 Speaker 8: to see how they're going to adjust to this reality. 843 00:42:14,280 --> 00:42:16,520 Speaker 8: And I walked away realizing they're not going to adjust 844 00:42:16,560 --> 00:42:18,880 Speaker 8: at all. They don't care that the deal has been sealed, 845 00:42:18,880 --> 00:42:20,839 Speaker 8: that it is implemented. They're going to do everything they 846 00:42:20,840 --> 00:42:23,160 Speaker 8: can to unravel it, and I suspect that that is 847 00:42:23,200 --> 00:42:24,600 Speaker 8: the path that these rallies will. 848 00:42:24,440 --> 00:42:25,319 Speaker 1: Go this time as well. 849 00:42:25,880 --> 00:42:29,319 Speaker 8: That means and they succeeded exactly not under Obama, but 850 00:42:29,360 --> 00:42:32,799 Speaker 8: they succeeded afterwards, and that may be their calculation that 851 00:42:32,840 --> 00:42:35,719 Speaker 8: they will succeed afterwards. But in me is that during 852 00:42:35,760 --> 00:42:39,560 Speaker 8: this period they're going to be in a direct confrontation 853 00:42:39,680 --> 00:42:42,560 Speaker 8: with Trump in a manner that I don't think Trump 854 00:42:42,880 --> 00:42:46,040 Speaker 8: potentially will be as restrained as Obama was. Remembered. One 855 00:42:46,080 --> 00:42:48,600 Speaker 8: of the things that Obama did in order to kind 856 00:42:48,640 --> 00:42:51,200 Speaker 8: of calm down these Raelies that he designed that ten 857 00:42:51,239 --> 00:42:54,440 Speaker 8: billion or was it the ten year deal thirty billion 858 00:42:54,520 --> 00:42:56,560 Speaker 8: in which you know, that was a way of trying 859 00:42:56,600 --> 00:42:58,719 Speaker 8: to make sure that these Ralis calm down a little bit. 860 00:42:58,960 --> 00:43:01,600 Speaker 8: We'll see if Trump does. There's several bills in Congress 861 00:43:01,640 --> 00:43:03,680 Speaker 8: right now that are going to try to integrate the 862 00:43:03,800 --> 00:43:07,880 Speaker 8: US military with the Israeli military, the US intelligence with 863 00:43:07,880 --> 00:43:11,799 Speaker 8: with Israeli intelligence. He may end up accepting some of 864 00:43:11,840 --> 00:43:13,920 Speaker 8: those things as some sort of a goodie that he 865 00:43:13,960 --> 00:43:15,759 Speaker 8: gives to these Raelis in order to calm them down. 866 00:43:16,640 --> 00:43:19,000 Speaker 3: Very good point, you know, if they do go. They 867 00:43:19,000 --> 00:43:21,080 Speaker 3: still won't go quietly, almost certainly have to buy them 868 00:43:21,120 --> 00:43:25,680 Speaker 3: off in some respect. We do want to shift now, 869 00:43:25,719 --> 00:43:29,480 Speaker 3: stir just to this deportation story. Let's put B seven 870 00:43:29,680 --> 00:43:33,239 Speaker 3: up here on the screen. This was the initial free 871 00:43:33,280 --> 00:43:36,640 Speaker 3: press story from about six days ago. Will the US 872 00:43:36,719 --> 00:43:40,680 Speaker 3: support Trita Parsi from J Solomon, who I believe was 873 00:43:40,719 --> 00:43:43,480 Speaker 3: fired in disgrace, if I recall, is one of the 874 00:43:43,640 --> 00:43:46,520 Speaker 3: Washington's most quoted opponents of the Iran war. The administration 875 00:43:46,600 --> 00:43:49,040 Speaker 3: is waying whether to revoke his green card, with some 876 00:43:49,120 --> 00:43:52,920 Speaker 3: officials arguing he isn't just another Pundit tell us a 877 00:43:52,960 --> 00:43:55,040 Speaker 3: little bit about you know where you're caught off guard 878 00:43:55,120 --> 00:43:57,880 Speaker 3: by this? Did you have some rumblings as something like 879 00:43:57,920 --> 00:44:01,920 Speaker 3: this was going to happen? And what's been the general 880 00:44:01,960 --> 00:44:04,520 Speaker 3: result now that it's been in public for six days? 881 00:44:05,400 --> 00:44:07,920 Speaker 8: Thanks Ager, and thank you guys again for the petition 882 00:44:08,000 --> 00:44:11,319 Speaker 8: and my support. I deeply, deeply appreciate that. So we 883 00:44:11,400 --> 00:44:15,080 Speaker 8: knew that something was coming in the free press. They 884 00:44:15,080 --> 00:44:17,480 Speaker 8: had reached out. We had no interest in talking to them. 885 00:44:17,560 --> 00:44:19,840 Speaker 8: We don't consider them to be a legitimate outlet in 886 00:44:19,880 --> 00:44:23,640 Speaker 8: any way, shape or form. But also we knew that 887 00:44:24,160 --> 00:44:26,760 Speaker 8: Laura Lumer had been tweeting for a couple of weeks 888 00:44:26,800 --> 00:44:29,520 Speaker 8: now trying to get me deported, and obviously she has 889 00:44:29,560 --> 00:44:31,800 Speaker 8: a track record of every once in a while getting 890 00:44:31,800 --> 00:44:35,160 Speaker 8: her away, so we knew that there wasn't an escalation 891 00:44:35,320 --> 00:44:37,480 Speaker 8: of their attempts to silence me. As I write in 892 00:44:37,520 --> 00:44:40,400 Speaker 8: my substack piece about this, they've been trying to silence 893 00:44:40,440 --> 00:44:43,799 Speaker 8: and cancel me for more than twenty five years. The 894 00:44:43,840 --> 00:44:46,520 Speaker 8: only difference now is that they're really going much further 895 00:44:46,600 --> 00:44:48,760 Speaker 8: to try to actually deport me, or at least they say. 896 00:44:49,360 --> 00:44:52,280 Speaker 8: But what was really fascinating here is that within hours 897 00:44:52,280 --> 00:44:55,040 Speaker 8: of this report coming out, the State Department came out 898 00:44:55,040 --> 00:44:58,440 Speaker 8: and denied it, and which is extremely unusual, but they 899 00:44:58,480 --> 00:45:00,000 Speaker 8: came out and said that they don't have any plans 900 00:45:00,040 --> 00:45:03,120 Speaker 8: at least now to deport me. And part of the 901 00:45:03,120 --> 00:45:06,120 Speaker 8: reason why that happened is partly because of this public 902 00:45:06,880 --> 00:45:09,960 Speaker 8: backlash that occurred, which was completely organic, we had nothing 903 00:45:09,960 --> 00:45:13,280 Speaker 8: to do with it, and partly because there were elements 904 00:45:13,320 --> 00:45:16,480 Speaker 8: inside the Trump administration that opposed this as well, and 905 00:45:16,560 --> 00:45:19,120 Speaker 8: I think that led to this very unusual move of 906 00:45:19,480 --> 00:45:23,680 Speaker 8: the State Department coming out and denying and essentially just 907 00:45:23,719 --> 00:45:26,400 Speaker 8: completely glowing that story away. It was all based on 908 00:45:26,560 --> 00:45:29,719 Speaker 8: one unnamed source in the State Department, and as I 909 00:45:29,800 --> 00:45:31,719 Speaker 8: heard from some people inside, it may actually have been 910 00:45:31,719 --> 00:45:34,520 Speaker 8: a rogue actor that hoped that by getting this story 911 00:45:34,560 --> 00:45:37,960 Speaker 8: out there it could trigger an investigation, rather than they're 912 00:45:37,960 --> 00:45:41,120 Speaker 8: actually having been an investigation to begin with. But for 913 00:45:41,200 --> 00:45:45,400 Speaker 8: now it does seem to me that this backfired on them. 914 00:45:46,160 --> 00:45:48,080 Speaker 8: But I don't think that they have given up. Just 915 00:45:48,120 --> 00:45:51,200 Speaker 8: like with the fight against the JCPOI and the nucle deal, 916 00:45:51,239 --> 00:45:54,000 Speaker 8: they will continue. And what I think is absolutely clear 917 00:45:54,040 --> 00:45:56,160 Speaker 8: is that they can't win an argument. Clearly they can't 918 00:45:56,200 --> 00:45:58,200 Speaker 8: win a war either. So all they have is they 919 00:45:58,239 --> 00:46:00,200 Speaker 8: attempt to try to cancel in silence people. 920 00:46:00,719 --> 00:46:04,040 Speaker 2: Well, I have to think not only the public outcry, also, 921 00:46:04,080 --> 00:46:06,640 Speaker 2: as you said, there are some elements within the administration 922 00:46:06,800 --> 00:46:09,560 Speaker 2: who were like, no, why would we do this, but 923 00:46:09,640 --> 00:46:11,600 Speaker 2: also now the fact that Trump is on the side 924 00:46:11,600 --> 00:46:14,200 Speaker 2: of a deal, like, look, we're on Trump's side now, right, 925 00:46:14,280 --> 00:46:17,080 Speaker 2: Like yes, please go ahead. So I mean, but that's 926 00:46:17,160 --> 00:46:20,000 Speaker 2: that's the nature of him, right, He's personalized the presidency. 927 00:46:20,120 --> 00:46:22,360 Speaker 2: Everything's about whether you're with him or against him. In 928 00:46:22,400 --> 00:46:25,960 Speaker 2: this moment, I think you're you know you are a 929 00:46:26,000 --> 00:46:28,400 Speaker 2: sort of consummate diplomat and Annaly's the whole idea of 930 00:46:28,440 --> 00:46:32,320 Speaker 2: Quincy is to bring together the anti war right and left, 931 00:46:32,360 --> 00:46:35,400 Speaker 2: something that obviously resonates very much with us on this show, 932 00:46:35,960 --> 00:46:37,840 Speaker 2: you know, which part of why we love you having 933 00:46:37,840 --> 00:46:41,200 Speaker 2: you on, and also because your analysis is so important 934 00:46:41,200 --> 00:46:43,680 Speaker 2: and so so spot on. So I would think that 935 00:46:43,760 --> 00:46:45,919 Speaker 2: the fact that now we're in the phase of let's 936 00:46:45,960 --> 00:46:48,319 Speaker 2: try to make this deal happen, that that would also 937 00:46:48,400 --> 00:46:51,399 Speaker 2: provide you some protection for the moment, not that there 938 00:46:51,440 --> 00:46:54,160 Speaker 2: isn't a that there are many guarantees for the long term. 939 00:46:54,200 --> 00:46:56,440 Speaker 8: Yeah, yeah, I certainly hope so. And I think you 940 00:46:56,480 --> 00:46:59,680 Speaker 8: also put your finger something very important. I personally do 941 00:46:59,760 --> 00:47:02,719 Speaker 8: think that the elevation of these attacks, it's not just 942 00:47:02,719 --> 00:47:04,399 Speaker 8: because of the war and the fact that I'm out 943 00:47:04,480 --> 00:47:07,120 Speaker 8: more in the media, but it is also because Quincy 944 00:47:07,200 --> 00:47:10,160 Speaker 8: and Breaking Points and many others right now are trying 945 00:47:10,200 --> 00:47:12,399 Speaker 8: to really build bridges between the left and the right 946 00:47:12,440 --> 00:47:15,800 Speaker 8: so that we have united front against this uni party 947 00:47:15,840 --> 00:47:19,080 Speaker 8: war machine. And that is a massive threat to all 948 00:47:19,120 --> 00:47:21,400 Speaker 8: of these people who want us to just dominate every 949 00:47:21,440 --> 00:47:23,840 Speaker 8: region of the world militarily. You have seven hundred and 950 00:47:23,880 --> 00:47:27,160 Speaker 8: fifty bases, constantly be at war with someone, invent new 951 00:47:27,239 --> 00:47:30,080 Speaker 8: enemies so that we can have a larger military budget, 952 00:47:30,160 --> 00:47:32,359 Speaker 8: et cetera, et cetera. And the fact that the left 953 00:47:32,400 --> 00:47:34,600 Speaker 8: and the right is coming together in opposition to that 954 00:47:34,800 --> 00:47:36,879 Speaker 8: is a huge threat. And I think Quincy has played 955 00:47:36,880 --> 00:47:38,480 Speaker 8: a role in all of this, which makes it all 956 00:47:38,480 --> 00:47:40,719 Speaker 8: the more valuable for them to try to silence and 957 00:47:40,760 --> 00:47:41,319 Speaker 8: attack us. 958 00:47:41,440 --> 00:47:41,600 Speaker 1: Right. 959 00:47:42,440 --> 00:47:44,759 Speaker 2: So if you hadn't been effective, they wouldn't care. That's 960 00:47:44,800 --> 00:47:46,879 Speaker 2: they keep going on, Sian. You know, we like having 961 00:47:46,880 --> 00:47:49,080 Speaker 2: you out there. It's the fact that what you say 962 00:47:49,280 --> 00:47:52,719 Speaker 2: resonates and appeals to a lot of people, regardless of 963 00:47:52,760 --> 00:47:56,640 Speaker 2: their partisan filiation. That's exactly why they mark you on 964 00:47:56,680 --> 00:47:57,280 Speaker 2: as a target. 965 00:47:57,520 --> 00:47:57,759 Speaker 1: Wow. 966 00:47:57,960 --> 00:48:00,400 Speaker 3: Yeah, the war is not yet over, but we do 967 00:48:00,520 --> 00:48:02,880 Speaker 3: have Again, we have a link to the petition and 968 00:48:02,880 --> 00:48:05,600 Speaker 3: then we have a link to doctor Parci's substack, which 969 00:48:05,640 --> 00:48:08,200 Speaker 3: is down in the description. We encourage you to go 970 00:48:08,280 --> 00:48:10,279 Speaker 3: and to subscribe and to keep updated for all the 971 00:48:10,280 --> 00:48:11,440 Speaker 3: excellent analysis. 972 00:48:11,440 --> 00:48:13,000 Speaker 1: Thank you very much, sir, Thank you so much for 973 00:48:13,080 --> 00:48:14,560 Speaker 1: having me. Really appreciate it. Thank you