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Speaker 1: Broadcasting live from the Abraham Lincoln Radio Studio, the George

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Speaker 1: Washington Broadcast Center, Jack Armstrong and Joe Getty Armstrong and

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Speaker 1: Jetty and no He Armstrong and Yetty. This new reporting

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Speaker 1: comes from the Wall Street Journal.

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Speaker 2: It says Israeli intelligence uncovered what it called a fresh

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Speaker 2: Iranian plot to assassinate the president. Now, look, those types

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Speaker 2: of threats are nothing new. Is Iran is openly vowed

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Speaker 2: to retaliate against Trump for assassinating Iran's top general, Coussin Solimani,

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Speaker 2: even going back to twenty twenty.

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Speaker 1: Now, I'm number one on the killer list for the run.

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Speaker 1: I'm number one on the list for killing. Yeah. Trump

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Speaker 1: had been talking about that a lot this week. It

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Speaker 1: had come up several times, and that's probably because he

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Speaker 1: got this information before it broken the Walls Street Journal

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Speaker 1: overnight of this fresh new assassination plot. We have had

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Speaker 1: forty five different people serve as president. Four US presidents

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Speaker 1: have been assassinated in office. So that's about nine percent.

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Speaker 1: And Trump brought that percentage up the other day. When

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Speaker 1: you look at it that way, that's still relatively high.

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Speaker 1: It's more dangerous, as he said, than being a race

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Speaker 1: car driver or lots of other supposedly dangerous things being

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Speaker 1: president of the United States. Now, we have not had

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Speaker 1: a president assassinated by a foreign country. A lot of

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Speaker 1: speculation around that, specifically with JFK obviously in the fact

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Speaker 1: not going to rehash all that, but there's never been

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Speaker 1: any proof that the Soviet Union was actually behind that.

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Speaker 1: But if Iran flat out killed the sitting president of

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Speaker 1: the United States and we knew it, I can't imagine

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Speaker 1: what that would do to the world. How would we

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Speaker 1: react to that. I don't know. I actually do not know.

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Speaker 1: I would assume that the gloves would be completely off

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Speaker 1: and we would just destroy the country. But first of all,

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Speaker 1: you got a lot of people who don't like Trump,

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Speaker 1: and a lot of the country doesn't like Trump, and

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Speaker 1: I don't know how the world would react to that.

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Speaker 1: And a lot of innocent people would lose their lives

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Speaker 1: who had nothing to do with wanting to assassinate Trump.

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Speaker 1: But it would be crazy, ugly. I'm looking at a

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Speaker 1: TV right now, Charlie Dagata from CBS's there, and they

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Speaker 1: were just showing the video of those hundreds of thousands

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Speaker 1: of mourners because of the Iatola's funeral that was going

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Speaker 1: on this weekend. They unfurled that giant banner saying we

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Speaker 1: will kill Trump, which is wild. Let's hear a little

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Speaker 1: more of the reporting. This is from a special report

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Speaker 1: on Fox around this.

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Speaker 3: Hundreds of mourners dressed in black hold a giant red

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Speaker 3: flag that reads we will kill Trump. Another group of

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Speaker 3: women hold up puzzle pieces that read killing you is

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Speaker 3: not enough for us.

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Speaker 1: We want to uproot demons.

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Speaker 3: And this man holds up a sign that simply reads revenge.

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Speaker 3: That is the message Iran is sending tonight on this

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Speaker 3: final day of Ayatola Ali Khameni's funeral.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, it's not like they're hiding that. And I have

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Speaker 1: to assume that in Iran, those protesters do not unfurl

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Speaker 1: that banner without the approval of the RGC or whoever's

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Speaker 1: currently in charge of crazy Islamic nut job crowds there.

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Speaker 1: In Iran, you don't get to do whatever you want.

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Speaker 1: The government probably made the banner that they unfurled. The

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Speaker 3: Renewed scrutiny tonight on his security. The New York Times

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Speaker 3: reports it was a secret Service that urged the President

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Speaker 3: to leave the NATO summit in Turkey aboard the old

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Speaker 3: he arrived in, raising questions about whether the plane was

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Speaker 3: retrofitted with sufficient security measures. The White House pushing back,

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Speaker 3: telling Fox, the new Air Force one is a state

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Speaker 1: There's no reason to believe anything that anyone is saying

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Speaker 1: out of the Secret Service or the White House or

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Speaker 1: to tell us actually what's going on would be insane.

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Speaker 1: It's good cover for the Secret Service or whoever to

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Speaker 1: We don't have any idea, and we shouldn't have any

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Speaker 1: idea to me. The key detail was that they hurried

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Speaker 1: For whatever reason, there, what the heck was going on?

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Speaker 1: So again, this is the Wall Street Journal with this

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Speaker 1: exclusive today. Israel recently shared intelligence with the United States

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Speaker 1: about a new Iranian plot to assassinate President Trump. According

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Speaker 1: to the report, comes after years of threats from Iran

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Speaker 1: to kill Trump as revenge, specifically for the twenty twenty

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Speaker 1: killing of their IRGC leader Cossam Salamani by US forces,

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Speaker 1: and that's now six years ago. When asked for com out,

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Speaker 1: the Wise House referred to the post to Trump's Wednesday

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Speaker 1: remarks at the NATO summit when he said they want

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Speaker 1: to take out the US leader. Me, I'm on whatever

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Speaker 1: How about that comment from a sitting president in the

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Speaker 1: United States. Maybe I've been lucky and that doesn't last

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Speaker 1: very long. That's a pretty fatalist view of a country

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Speaker 1: wanting to assassinate you and your country's ability to keep

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Speaker 1: you protected. These are evil, sick people, Trump went on,

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Speaker 1: and we have to root out that cancer. That cancer.

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Speaker 1: You know what you do. You got to cut out

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Speaker 1: the cancer early. And that's the way I feel, said Trump.

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Speaker 4: Now.

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Speaker 1: Pete Hegzeth, the Secretary of War who accompanied the President

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Speaker 1: to the summit, was instructed not to travel to Israel

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Speaker 1: as was planned before Trump chose to switch planes in Turkey.

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Speaker 1: So Hegzeth was going to go to Israel and they

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Speaker 1: to do with the assassination plot, whatever was going on there.

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Speaker 1: The Wall Street Journal does not have details on the

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Speaker 1: alleged assassination plot, and they shouldn't. We should not know

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Speaker 1: what the plan was or how we figured out what

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Speaker 1: it was. The Israelis tipped the United States off about

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Speaker 1: the plot earlier this week. That's why Trump was talking

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Speaker 1: about it all week long. The specific threat was not

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Speaker 1: being tracked by US officials before Israel's warning, and as

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Speaker 1: yet to be vetted. CNN reported, So it's something Israel

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Speaker 1: got onto with their amazing intelligence abilities there in the

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Speaker 1: didn't know about that they alerted us to. Again, banners

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Speaker 1: vowing revenge against Trump were on full display and tran

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Speaker 1: this week. Is Ranians prepared to bury the late Supreme

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Speaker 1: read we will kill Trump in all caps. Now that's provocative.

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Speaker 1: What kind of a ceasefire is that? What kind of

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Speaker 1: a These are good people, you know. What's cool is

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Speaker 1: United States, there was a bad plan, said JD. Vans.

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Speaker 1: A couple of weeks ago, the official ceremonies for the

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Speaker 1: death of their leader included a banner that says, we

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Speaker 1: will kill the President of the United States. What the hell?

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Speaker 1: I have no idea where the story is going, and

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Speaker 1: neither does anybody else. I want to talk about the

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Speaker 1: a dang good idea. They got the law on their side.

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Speaker 1: We do have laws out there that you can get

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Speaker 1: data brokers because it gets sold, it gets stolen, it

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Speaker 1: gets sold. Yeah, everything you sign up for you have

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Speaker 1: of there. The way is to disappear with the help

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Speaker 1: of Incognate. They contact hundreds of data brokers and legally

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Speaker 1: in cognit dot com slash armstrong. I've noticed maybe this

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Speaker 1: has been going on for a while. I just didn't

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Speaker 1: I pointed this out to my son while we were

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Speaker 1: He found it very amusing. So I've got that and

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Speaker 1: a bunch of other actual news of the day on

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Speaker 1: this National French Friday coming up Armstrong. Now, Michael, we

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Speaker 1: have three jokes about the same topic, National French Friday.

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Speaker 1: Why did you not present this as a what do

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Speaker 1: you're not allowed to prosecute this war. Mister Trump doesn't

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Speaker 1: know that, no, they never tell you that. Anyway, Back

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Speaker 1: to the jokes. It's a National French Friday, and several

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Speaker 4: The Frozen foods brand a Ride at at least a

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Speaker 4: limited edition line of skis designed to look like French fries.

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Speaker 1: Now you and your health can both go downhill.

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Speaker 5: America is reportedly on the verge of a French fries

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Speaker 5: this year, fewer potatoes are expected. This really tells you

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Speaker 5: all you need to know about how we eat in

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Speaker 5: this country. The two hardest foods in America to get

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Speaker 5: are French fries in the Popeye's Chicken Safwes, one of.

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Speaker 2: The biggest French fry factories in North America is closing

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Speaker 2: because Americans are eating fewer French fries.

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Speaker 1: People are eating fewer.

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Speaker 5: French fries than every Uber East driver was like, speak

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Speaker 5: for yourself.

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Speaker 1: elon with some nice things to say about nthropy yesterday.

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Speaker 1: I'll get to that later. He says. Claude is the

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Speaker 1: best anthropy, is the best current AI out there. Anyway,

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Speaker 1: ask Claude if she should ever eat French fries. From

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Speaker 1: a nutrition angle, really hard to make the argument for

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Speaker 1: French fries. Calorie dents high in salt and oil, and

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Speaker 1: for you. It's like if you're eating really tasty styrofoam

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Speaker 1: or something, or rocks, like really delicious rocks, would you

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Speaker 1: do that? I love French fries, though, I like all

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Speaker 1: different kinds of French fries. I like the like thin, crispy,

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Speaker 1: We've been talking to Craig Gottwals for years for a

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Speaker 1: Welcome to the Armstrong and Getty Show.

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Speaker 4: Thank you Jack.

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Speaker 1: How you doing? First of all, it's National French Friday.

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Speaker 1: What's your favorite French fry? In and out?

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Speaker 4: Extra crispy hot out of the friar.

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Speaker 4: you can't healthcare on a macroeconomic level, Jack. The breaking

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Speaker 4: It's killing us. Whether you have an employer plan or

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Speaker 1: So you use the word oligarchy around healthcare. How come

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Speaker 4: This is how this is, this is what they aspire to,

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Speaker 4: Seventy percent of all your health care is now paid

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Speaker 4: Realistically, it's it's it's almost certainly going to get worse

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Speaker 4: you have to you have to break the system so

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Speaker 4: badly that you pull the federal government out of it

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Speaker 4: and you have individuals go back to pure price price

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Speaker 4: transparency and buying their own health care. But I don't

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Speaker 4: I don't see that as the most likely option. I mean,

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Speaker 4: the only the only path where that happens is if

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Speaker 4: it's all done at the employer level, because employers still

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Speaker 4: control about thirty to forty percent of health care. And

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Speaker 4: if employers self ensure their plans and get get out

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Speaker 4: of the oligopoly as much as they can, that's where

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Speaker 4: we can make some real change. But we're working with

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Speaker 4: one third of the pie. You know, as far as

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Speaker 4: the money goes leaven, less than one third of the pie.

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Speaker 1: Does rand Paul's argument work? He always uses because he

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Speaker 1: was an optimal is optomologist. He always uses the example

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Speaker 1: of laser because it's outside of the insurance thing. You know,

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Speaker 1: you pay cash for that, and so it was competitive

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Speaker 1: and you have people, you know, there's a reason for

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Speaker 1: me to keep my costs down to get more customers

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Speaker 1: where that doesn't exist if you go into the doctor

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Speaker 1: for anything else. Does that model work as an example

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Speaker 1: of what could be.

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Speaker 4: It absolutely does. So's that's kind of what we're advocating

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Speaker 4: for with what I do. And so how you would

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Speaker 4: do that at the individual level, And I know this

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Speaker 4: sounds counterintuitive to people, is we need to legalize because

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Speaker 4: right now it's illegal to do it something like twenty

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Speaker 4: five thousand dollars or fifty thousand dollars deductible plans for individuals.

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Speaker 4: And the only reason I say that is, you really

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Speaker 4: only want insurance for those catastrophic events that occur that

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Speaker 4: you can't afford. And if you if you, for example,

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Speaker 4: put every American on a plan that either had a

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Speaker 4: twenty five or a fifty thousand dollars deductible. Now, if

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Speaker 4: they're super low income, you put them in medicaid, right,

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Speaker 4: But those people that can budget their own care, you

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Speaker 4: would start seeing price transparency and negotiation for things like

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Speaker 4: urgent care, for things like common over the counter drugs,

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Speaker 4: for things like your doctor visits, and it would all

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Speaker 4: come down to a reasonable price because you would realize

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Speaker 4: there's not just a federal slush funds that's washing around

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Speaker 4: that everybody's trying to feed at the trough of.

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Speaker 1: I know, you got these stats at the top of

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Speaker 1: your head. What was back in the sixties when we

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Speaker 1: came up with these socialized health plans. What was the

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Speaker 1: original goal versus where we are now in terms of

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Speaker 1: percentages of people covered?

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Speaker 4: Yeah, I knew you. You love the statistic. So when

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Speaker 4: Medicaid was passed, Medicaid is for our low income, medicares

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Speaker 4: for our seniors. And the difference is, you know, at

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Speaker 4: least in theory, the way the actuary set it up.

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Speaker 4: We all pay in the medicare as we work, and

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Speaker 4: then we in theory, the way it was supposed to

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Speaker 4: be set up is we're paying for our own care

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Speaker 4: when we then retire. It doesn't work that way. It's

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Speaker 4: not it's broken. It's not funding enough, just like Social Security.

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Speaker 4: But if you just look at Medicaid, the idea with

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Speaker 4: Medicaid was we're going to cover the lowest two percent

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Speaker 4: of earners in nineteen sixty five. That was the projection

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Speaker 4: that they said, you know, by about nineteen ninety, we're

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Speaker 4: going to cover the lowest two percent of earners in

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Speaker 4: our country. And now four out of every ten babies

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Speaker 4: born in blue states like California are born onto a

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Speaker 4: Medicaid plan.

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Speaker 1: Wow, from two percent to forty percent. Yeah, I mean

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Speaker 1: that's stunning.

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Speaker 4: Roughly one third across the country for adults too, third

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Speaker 4: of all Americans are on a Medicaid plan.

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Speaker 1: And so meta caid is the one where studies show

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Speaker 1: you get worse results than if you didn't have any healthcare.

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Speaker 4: There are reputable, university backed studies that have shown that

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Speaker 4: for certain heart conditions and diabetes care management and certain conditions,

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Speaker 4: you actually might be worse off on Medicaid than if

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Speaker 4: you had no insurance at all, because you end up

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Speaker 4: in such a long line to get care and it

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Speaker 4: becomes such a headache, and you end up with such

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Speaker 4: with a much smaller panel of doctors that it's actually

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Speaker 4: worse than if you were able to scrape up enough

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Speaker 4: cash to pay for these things on your own and

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Speaker 4: the outside of that system.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, that's horrifying, and that could be all of us soon.

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Speaker 1: So moving from the realm of you know, your expertise

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Speaker 1: healthcare into a realm I know you know a lot

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Speaker 1: about the politics of it. I just I think it's

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Speaker 1: going to be a pretty easy sell for Bernie or

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Speaker 1: Elizabeth Warren or whoever is you know running the campaign

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Speaker 1: for this, or whoever's the nominee for president for the

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Speaker 1: Democrats to say, hey, look, the bills are too high,

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Speaker 1: the PaperWorks, you get me down, let's just go meta.

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Speaker 1: You said we're going to go meta care for all,

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Speaker 1: probably for Medicaid.

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Speaker 4: Well, they'll talk about they'll still say Medicare. They'll say Medicare.

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Speaker 4: The difference is, and I have I actually have the

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Speaker 4: numbers right in my finger tip. The difference is the

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Speaker 4: cost for one enrollee for one single person in Medicare

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Speaker 4: is just about twelve thousand dollars per year per person,

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Speaker 4: but the cost on Medicaid is only eight thousand dollar

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Speaker 4: dollars per year per person. Because Medicaid is cheaper, because

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Speaker 4: it has less doctors, because it's not as good. The

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Speaker 4: country can't afford Medicare for All. I mean we're talking

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Speaker 4: thirty six forty trillion dollars over a ten year span.

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Speaker 4: It's we can't afford it. So I think ultimately what

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Speaker 4: they'll do is they'll pitch Medicare for All, but I'll

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Speaker 4: end up looking a lot more like Medicaid for All,

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Speaker 4: where we really have this this horrific system that nobody

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Speaker 4: wants to be in if they can avoid it. And

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Speaker 4: then you'll get a bifurcated system where those that have

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Speaker 4: money will go out and just pay. They'll pay cash prices,

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Speaker 4: they'll negotiate deals directly with doctors.

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Speaker 1: And they'll do it on their own like they do

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Speaker 1: in England with NHS.

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Speaker 4: Like they do in England. But there are some countries,

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Speaker 4: and I believe Canada is one of them where that's illegal, Like, oh,

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Speaker 4: I don't think we'll go that far. Yeah, I don't

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Speaker 4: think we'll go that far, but yeah, there are some

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Speaker 4: of the socialized countries jack where you can't pay cash

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Speaker 4: for service. They don't let you buy a separate policy, and.

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Speaker 1: So my that's crazy. So my concern is that pople

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Speaker 1: wouldn't know what it's costing. It'll just get rolled into

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Speaker 1: just kind of general taxes which half the country doesn't pay,

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Speaker 1: and so you won't have a concrete, getting a bill

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Speaker 1: understanding of what we're all paying for this.

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Speaker 4: No, and what will happen is it'll be like like

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Speaker 4: the scandals and now you spoke about them. I think

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Speaker 4: it was a baby yesterday. But the scandals with the

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Speaker 4: Medicare fraud you've seen in Minnesota and California, those will

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Speaker 4: just get worse because see, the real sin with Medicare

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Speaker 4: and Medicaid is they've looped in the prescription benefit managers,

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Speaker 4: the drug companies, and the insurance companies are all part

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Speaker 4: of it in the supplement space, and so there's a

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Speaker 4: whole bunch of people getting rich rich and farming the

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Speaker 4: federal taxpayer. Then you've got brokers that farm that as well.

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Speaker 4: So you have this whole parasite class that's farming on

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Speaker 4: it because again because number one lobby in the United States,

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Speaker 4: number one employer in the United States, they have the power,

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Speaker 4: they have Congress's ear, and the taxpayer just gets steamrolled.

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Speaker 4: But you're absolutely right, it'll be some of the Frankenstein

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Speaker 4: hybrid Medicare Medicaid, and you'll you'll have all those dollars

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Speaker 4: just we won't know what things really cost.

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Speaker 1: And then there's no going back, Nope, And and.

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Speaker 4: It'll just keep eroding our quality of life. Right, We'll

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Speaker 4: have less cars at smaller houses, you know, Right, that's

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Speaker 4: like we see in France or whatever.

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Speaker 1: God that's depressing, are you It's great?

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Speaker 4: I always do this to you, Jack, I know.

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Speaker 1: But you know one of the hallmarks of conservatism. George

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Speaker 1: Will taught me this. I heard him say this once

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Speaker 1: and I always remember recognizing what is is one of

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Speaker 1: the hallmarks conservatives, whether it's good news or bad news,

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Speaker 1: just recognizing what are the facts? And these are the facts.

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Speaker 1: And I don't think there's any disputing it. Are you

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Speaker 1: getting any fishing done?

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Speaker 4: Very little?

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Speaker 5: You know.

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Speaker 4: I made a work transition a couple of years ago,

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Speaker 4: and I've been working too darn much. But a little

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Speaker 4: bit here and there, and it's it's been all right,

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Speaker 4: but not like it was back in the old days

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Speaker 4: when I was sponsored bass fishermen and putting in fifty

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Speaker 4: to one hundred days on the water a year.

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Speaker 1: Wow, one hundred days a year fishing. That had to

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Speaker 1: be awesome.

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Speaker 4: It was, But that's that's a little bit of a

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Speaker 4: cheat because I'd get out on fulsome lake and fish

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Speaker 4: until nine am and then be in the office by ten,

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Speaker 4: So I would count that as a day on the water.

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Speaker 1: Cool. If people want your expertise, how do they get

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Speaker 1: a hold of you?

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Speaker 4: Gottwalls dot substack dot com.

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Speaker 1: Okay, and we will link that at our website. Can

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Speaker 1: we do that? Hanton, really appreciate your time today. I

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Speaker 1: was excellent.

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Speaker 4: Craig, of course, Jack, thank you.

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Speaker 1: Yeah. The whole healthcare thing is so depressing. And he

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Speaker 1: started talking about this. We've been talking to Craig for

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Speaker 1: years and it was before Obamacare, is when the national

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Speaker 1: debate was going on about Obama Obamacare. He was predicting

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Speaker 1: on where this was headed and he's been right about

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Speaker 1: all of it. And you know, lots of conservative pundits

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Speaker 1: were saying the same thing. But Craig, because he's so

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Speaker 1: detailed and in that industry on how it was going

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Speaker 1: to be such an easy sell at some point politically

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Speaker 1: for socialized medicine because it's more expensive and more complicated

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Speaker 1: and more annoying to where people just throw up their hands.

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Speaker 1: They might as well just have socialized medicine, at which point,

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Speaker 1: again we don't have the slightest idea what it's costing,

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Speaker 1: because you never pay any actual bills. It's just kind

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Speaker 1: of factored into the overall cost of America, which again

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Speaker 1: is he just pointed out, just kind of drags down

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Speaker 1: the whole economy with smaller houses and smaller cars and

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Speaker 1: just a small, sluggish economy, and nobody will understand that.

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Speaker 1: There'll be no it's depressing. This is not what you want.

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Speaker 1: Do you have it, handy, Michael. We need it on

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Speaker 1: a Friday. And then I'm gonna stop being depressing at

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Speaker 1: least on this topic, I promise, because it's just it's

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Speaker 1: overwhelming to me. Armstrong and Getty the most depressing radio

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Speaker 1: show ever. I don't want to be that. I don't

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Speaker 1: want to be that. We have something fun next, promise, Armstrong.

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Speaker 1: I want to talk about these street people around the

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Speaker 1: radio station. Here in a second. But before I get

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Speaker 1: to that, just came across this story in the California Post.

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Speaker 1: It's it's a horrifying story. I mean, it's a it's

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Speaker 1: a it's a murder, a couple of murders. This guy

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Speaker 1: shot and killed his girlfriend and her lover. But this

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Speaker 1: is an interesting wrinkle on this. So this dude in

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Speaker 1: San Diego, him and his girlfriend, they're in their late

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Speaker 1: twenties at twenty seven and twenty eight. Uh, they agreed

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Speaker 1: to have an open relationship. Okay, you know, let your

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Speaker 1: freak flag fly. I guess I've never quite understood that,

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Speaker 1: but fine, they agreed to have an open relationship. She

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Speaker 1: brings a homeless dude into their home as her lover.

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Speaker 1: So I'm thinking when he hit agreed to an open relationship,

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Speaker 1: he was pictured some you know, you're gonna find some

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Speaker 1: college guy or something like that, and you know whatever,

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Speaker 1: she brings a homeless dude into their house and then

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Speaker 1: lets him live there. This homeless guy had been living

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Speaker 1: in their house for a couple of weeks there in Ramona,

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Speaker 1: San Diego area, and then the scumbag guy twists off

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Speaker 1: and kills them both, which is obviously incredibly uncool. But man,

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Speaker 1: when you go for the open relationship, you don't think

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Speaker 1: the other one's going to go homeless.

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Speaker 4: Love.

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Speaker 1: Speaking of the homeless, we got a lot of them

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Speaker 1: right around the radio station here, specifically over by the

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Speaker 1: Wells Fartho Bank and the Cane's Chicken Hanson, our executive producer,

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Speaker 1: he's really become enthralled with the rats, the number of

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Speaker 1: rats that they have around there, and he likes watching

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Speaker 1: them scurry around and run up and down the poles

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Speaker 1: and everything like that. But he told me he plays

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Speaker 1: a game when he comes to work now, when he's

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Speaker 1: sitting at the stoplight, sleeping or dead, he sees somebody

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Speaker 1: there on the street to the sidewalk and tries to

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Speaker 1: determine whether they're sleeping or dead. And he had one

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Speaker 1: today that he is really wondering sleeping or dead because

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Speaker 1: there were the rats were within feet of the guy,

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Speaker 1: and you wouldn't think the rats would get that close

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Speaker 1: to guy. And he tried to decide if he should

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Speaker 1: call nine one one or go over and nudge the

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Speaker 1: guy or whatever. But he thought, you know, if he's dead,

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Speaker 1: what good is it gonna do. Somebody will figure this

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Speaker 1: out and if he's sleeping. Of course, you know, the

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Speaker 1: guy's got a full day of work ahead of him.

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Speaker 1: You don't want to wake him up when he's trying

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Speaker 1: to get a slumber before he you know, gets to

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Speaker 1: the office. Whatever the guy does, Oh my god, you're

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Speaker 1: passed out, methed up, passed out with rats around you.

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Speaker 1: Nice lifestyle. And I mentioned that to Jensen, who we've

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Speaker 1: had on the air many many times over the year.

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Speaker 1: She's out there in the newsroom. I mentioned that playing

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Speaker 1: the game homeless or sleep, sleeping or dead with the

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Speaker 1: homeless guy. She says, she plays let me pass by

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Speaker 1: or lunge is the game she plays when they're standing

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Speaker 1: up in the street. Is this guy just gonna let

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Speaker 1: me drive by? Or is he going to lunge in

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Speaker 1: front of my are What a great environment, Oh my god.

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Speaker 1: I know parts of parts of the country where some

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Speaker 1: of you are listening, you can't even imagine that this

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Speaker 1: goes on. If you're in a town over five thousand

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Speaker 1: people in California, you've got lots of street people around.

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Speaker 1: This is just a common thing. Thank you, Gavin Newsom

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Speaker 1: and the Blue voters in the lifestyle part of the deal.

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Speaker 1: Let me pass her Lunge sleeping or dead. It's a

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Speaker 1: fun game to start your dead

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Speaker 4: Armstrong and Getty