Speaker 1: What's her family. It's your girl to meet A. D. Mallory,
Speaker 1: it's your boy, my son, the general, and we are
Speaker 1: your hosts of street politicians, the place where politics meet.
Speaker 1: What's going on? I mean, I'm back to work. I
Speaker 1: was on a zero now I'm like on a six.
Speaker 1: Yesterday I was on a five. I'm on a six now.
Speaker 1: I'm trying to get, you know, myself back into the spirit.
Speaker 1: I think, you know, I tried to take the vacation time,
Speaker 1: but I realized what I might need or may have needed.
Speaker 1: I feel better. It's more of like a sabbatical. It
Speaker 1: wasn't so much just the holidays, because then during the holidays,
Speaker 1: you're still holiday and you're going shopping, You're meeting people,
Speaker 1: You're you're you're entertaining, you're cooking stuff. I gotta make
Speaker 1: sure my mom and dad have what they need traveling
Speaker 1: in a little bit. This one has a party, that
Speaker 1: one has a party. I almost need to time that
Speaker 1: I just have to sit in the dark if I
Speaker 1: want and do nothing. But you know what, right now,
Speaker 1: I'm feeling good. I'm back into it. We're getting you know,
Speaker 1: wrapped up and I think, use me, it's gonna be
Speaker 1: a really really good year. Well it better be man sejorgaye. Man,
Speaker 1: you know it's execution. Man. I'm glad to see you
Speaker 1: back to work, you know. Uh, but if you need
Speaker 1: it's abatico. You might need to take that. You know,
Speaker 1: you might need a little dunk room or something, just
Speaker 1: being there for a couple of weeks, not talking. Hide
Speaker 1: the phone, put it down, you know, put it away.
Speaker 1: So you don't have no community, go to like an
Speaker 1: homage village. So you have so many suggestions. I will
Speaker 1: figure it out for myself. I don't need you to
Speaker 1: tell me listen, because I could just stay in my
Speaker 1: own house that they ain't gonna work because you're gonna
Speaker 1: grab your own phone. You're going the people in your
Speaker 1: house is gonna knock from downstairs, and but they're not
Speaker 1: going to because they're gonna know, don't bother me. Nobody
Speaker 1: cares about that. When you when you're able to be reached,
Speaker 1: people gonna reach you. So I don't know why you
Speaker 1: think that's gonna happen, but you know that's neither hit
Speaker 1: on the man. Um A lot has been going on lately. Um.
Speaker 1: The other day we had a rally in the Bronx
Speaker 1: you know, young boy, fifteen year old Joe Sway or
Speaker 1: take a little Lopez lost his life. And the crazy
Speaker 1: thing about the young boy, he was coming from the
Speaker 1: p l M shot and you know he was he
Speaker 1: was on life support for a minute and then they
Speaker 1: said then anounced to brained in and didn't. Eventually he
Speaker 1: lost his life. And another young boy who hasn't been named,
Speaker 1: who was sixteen, was also shot, but he didn't he survived,
Speaker 1: you know, with um with minor wounds and right fifteen
Speaker 1: and the other young man who was shot with sixteen.
Speaker 1: And the crazy thing about it, you know, Um, we
Speaker 1: were at the pl and we did the rally and
Speaker 1: the mother came out, um and she was just so distrought.
Speaker 1: It hurt my heart, you know, just seeing her just
Speaker 1: falling down to the ground crying for her son. She
Speaker 1: snatched the picture and took him and you know it
Speaker 1: was a lot, man, and it's and it never gets
Speaker 1: easier when we watch, you know, mothers lose their children,
Speaker 1: know that they have to bury their children, Know that
Speaker 1: forever they have this feeling of them losing something that
Speaker 1: was inside of them, they birthed that they pretty much
Speaker 1: their organs produced like the the the organs inside the baby.
Speaker 1: It comes from the mother. Literally, this is a second
Speaker 1: version of her, you know, and understanding that it is
Speaker 1: just crazy. But what was even more crazy for me
Speaker 1: was so yesterday I went to a funeral for another
Speaker 1: young boy from the community at high Bridge who lost
Speaker 1: his life. You know, did call him Jelly, you know,
Speaker 1: um he lost his life in a car accident. And
Speaker 1: while I was there to pay my respects, one of
Speaker 1: the people that I know from the community said, Hey,
Speaker 1: I've seen you at the rally. You know, that was
Speaker 1: Eileen's son, you know, Eileen, that's his mother, Eileen. And
Speaker 1: I couldn't understand it was Eileen. You know. Eileen used
Speaker 1: to be with Dizzey, who was my sister's best friend,
Speaker 1: and she used to be in the house with those
Speaker 1: two boys all the time. And I was like, and
Speaker 1: then it clicked into my head and I remember Aileen
Speaker 1: like she was because Dizzey was a good friend of
Speaker 1: mine who I frequented a house all the time, and
Speaker 1: Eileen used to be in there with these two little boys,
Speaker 1: you know, and they were real younger. And when you
Speaker 1: say fifteen, this is around you know, fourteen, fifteen years
Speaker 1: ago when I had first came home from prison, you know,
Speaker 1: so knowing that this young little wood who I shared
Speaker 1: spacewood and I played with, took to the store, used
Speaker 1: to buy a little you know, toys for them, give
Speaker 1: them money to go to the store, lost his life
Speaker 1: and I didn't even realize it. You know, was really
Speaker 1: touched me in a different way. Man. So I want
Speaker 1: to some I love about to the mother, to the
Speaker 1: parents of the family and and just say, man, we're
Speaker 1: here for you. Man. It just was a lot. Man,
Speaker 1: just just see in that situation. Yeah, that mom, that
Speaker 1: was so heartbreaking. Wow, fifteen years old. She has a
Speaker 1: sixteen year old child. Also she will not deceased, but
Speaker 1: her fifteen year old baby. It was just really sad.
Speaker 1: I mean, it's nothing else you can say. We know
Speaker 1: the issues. We could sit here all day and talk
Speaker 1: about gun violence and what it does and how it
Speaker 1: you know, rips communities and families and all of that.
Speaker 1: We already know. And there's a lot of work that's
Speaker 1: happening across the country where people are responding. I thought
Speaker 1: the one great thing that I would say in a
Speaker 1: it's a terrible situation. There's no way to make light
Speaker 1: of it. But one thing I would say that made
Speaker 1: me proud is the work that we did so many
Speaker 1: years ago. Um, you know, work that I was directly
Speaker 1: involved in many years ago, more than ten years ago,
Speaker 1: has materialized to so many groups showing up and being present.
Speaker 1: So when people say, you know, where's the protests and
Speaker 1: where's the organizing around gun violence? You know, I know
Speaker 1: a lot of it is trolling and they know that
Speaker 1: the truth and they just say it anyway. But there's
Speaker 1: some people who really don't know. And I just encourage
Speaker 1: folks get involved with your local grassroots organizations that do
Speaker 1: that work because there are people out here that are
Speaker 1: fighting for um life. That's right. You shout out to
Speaker 1: a t shut out to all the organizations who are
Speaker 1: out there, guns down, sometimes getting new people. The official
Speaker 1: gun violence Czar New York. You know, so everybody who
Speaker 1: came out there, man, we appreciate you all. President uh
Speaker 1: Gibson was there, Salamanca was there because we were so
Speaker 1: everybody that came out man, and in the PL, the
Speaker 1: officials inside the PL were very helpful to us. You know,
Speaker 1: we're looking forward to doing some work, you know, to
Speaker 1: try to curb the violence and just try to bring
Speaker 1: some level awareness, awareness, you know, in the community. So
Speaker 1: black people just can't get a break, and we just
Speaker 1: cannot get a break. Sixty five year old woman Betty
Speaker 1: Smith was in this store called the um Litterman's Grocery
Speaker 1: and she found the fifty out of bill. So she's
Speaker 1: at the counter, fifty out of bill on the floor.
Speaker 1: She picks it up, so look, it's my lucky day.
Speaker 1: She shows it to the person at the registers. She's like, Oh,
Speaker 1: you're not leaving here with that. You're gonna give me that?
Speaker 1: It might be my friends he was here earlier. Now
Speaker 1: she's the only one in the store. She looked like,
Speaker 1: I ain't giving you nothing. I don't find this you.
Speaker 1: You ain't getting no fifty dollars back from no black woman,
Speaker 1: the old black woman behind the register. The person behind
Speaker 1: the register. Yeah, that ship told you're not leaving here
Speaker 1: with that. You're gonna give it to me because it
Speaker 1: could have been my friends. She took. Listen, now, I
Speaker 1: wish you do you think I was? She like, I
Speaker 1: wish I would. Man. You know how much buddy, these
Speaker 1: people that are took for me, you know much money?
Speaker 1: I spit it here and I've probably got me a
Speaker 1: little break. You know, this is the because when we
Speaker 1: find money, we say the guard that said it to
Speaker 1: that's the That's so she tries to leave the store,
Speaker 1: she calls managers everything. They locked the lady in the store,
Speaker 1: snatched the fifty dollar our hand. When she goes to
Speaker 1: try to to get it, put some the choke call,
Speaker 1: she said, they call it all times of all kinds
Speaker 1: of black bitches, this and that, you know it was,
Speaker 1: it's this grace. And then the daughter shows that after
Speaker 1: a while to try to get in there, and they
Speaker 1: arrest the daughter. They said she assaulted. And when you
Speaker 1: can see like one of the I guess one of
Speaker 1: the people who work in there in the front like
Speaker 1: trying to stop the daughter from trying to get in,
Speaker 1: and she like pushes up and the police woke up.
Speaker 1: As soon as you push her. The first thing they
Speaker 1: do is grab her. They don't ask you questions, they
Speaker 1: don't say nothing. They grabbed her and arrest her. And
Speaker 1: this lady is basically being held hostage for fifty dollars
Speaker 1: that she found. And it's just like, you know, we
Speaker 1: just we just can't get a break. Man. I don't
Speaker 1: know what the rules and regulations are for all of this.
Speaker 1: But I would imagine, well, first of all, don't tell
Speaker 1: anybody if you find money, you just put it in
Speaker 1: your pocket and keep it moving. We all know that,
Speaker 1: But I don't know if it dry, if it was
Speaker 1: found inside of someone's establishment, who owns it, I don't know.
Speaker 1: I don't know who is Actually we should ask the
Speaker 1: lawyer about that. Speaking of lawyers, UM, first of all,
Speaker 1: I hope that woman is okay, but you know spe
Speaker 1: and her daughter. But speak of lawyers, I am working
Speaker 1: on a show for Street politicians where we have different
Speaker 1: attorneys to come together to talk about some of the
Speaker 1: legal issues of two um, you know, lawyers from different perspectives. Obviously,
Speaker 1: our friend Brian Benjamin was the Lieutenant governor of New
Speaker 1: York State. UM. And he also was you know, had
Speaker 1: a great re election or any election bid because he
Speaker 1: was appointed to that position. But then it was going
Speaker 1: to be elected into the position. And some scandal that
Speaker 1: I think was manufactured unfortunately by government officials alongside a
Speaker 1: man who anyways, a long story. People will learn more
Speaker 1: about it. Um. They you know, really really try to
Speaker 1: ruin Briant's life. And now, of course the case part
Speaker 1: of the case, the most important part of the case,
Speaker 1: has been dropped and which is is is unheard of
Speaker 1: with the Feds just dropping cases, which we see in
Speaker 1: a lot of that starting to happen, um, And I
Speaker 1: wonder what that means in terms of the integrity of
Speaker 1: how the FEDS are working. And by the way, it
Speaker 1: could be the lack of integrity in the past, where
Speaker 1: there is now more integrity because of what we have
Speaker 1: fought for and therefore some of these cases that used
Speaker 1: to be open and shut because of the corruption and
Speaker 1: everything else are not open and shut anymore. So that's
Speaker 1: a different way to look at it, right, UM, So
Speaker 1: him you know his case. I want to talk about
Speaker 1: the legal ease and around that would like to hear
Speaker 1: from some folks who understand or who agree with the
Speaker 1: Tory Lanes verdict and people who don't you know, other
Speaker 1: I'm talking about legal folks, legal minds, not just people
Speaker 1: who are lawyers that are paid to go out and
Speaker 1: say one thing or the other, but people who really
Speaker 1: have opinions that, um, you know, can help us to
Speaker 1: explore all the different sides of these issues. And I
Speaker 1: think we should put on it asking the question if
Speaker 1: your money falls in a store or even in somebody's
Speaker 1: house and a person walks by and picks it up.
Speaker 1: Who owns it? Somebody's house? And I think that's way different.
Speaker 1: The store might be the same. I think it's only outside.
Speaker 1: Well who if something, if money is felt on the
Speaker 1: floor inside, Who's to determine that it belongs to? Who?
Speaker 1: I don't know? But we should ask, right, We should
Speaker 1: certainly ask. So that's that's one of the things that
Speaker 1: I think should be on the list. I mean, and
Speaker 1: folks should actually reach out to us and tell us
Speaker 1: about issues that you want to hear us cover. Um.
Speaker 1: And you know this this legal analysis moment that we'll
Speaker 1: be having with these different attorneys. Actually I wanted to
Speaker 1: do my thought of the day, but it is too extensive.
Speaker 1: But I think that when we come back next week,
Speaker 1: we need to really delve into the AP course. I mean,
Speaker 1: we talked about it last week and I had the
Speaker 1: perspective and we discussed the perspective on the AP course
Speaker 1: that's been banned in Florida. Um, we talked about it
Speaker 1: from a perspective of what we think the real true
Speaker 1: reasons are for why they want to ban those that
Speaker 1: course or that that course work right that curriculum. But
Speaker 1: then since we had that last week, we were just
Speaker 1: talking about what I know white people be doing. White
Speaker 1: people ship. So that was last week, this and then
Speaker 1: not just white people but racist white people. This week
Speaker 1: we've had the opportunity to look through the curriculum. I've
Speaker 1: posted a bunch of stuff. But now that we have
Speaker 1: looked through the curriculum and have more to discuss, I
Speaker 1: would like for us to talk about and really kind
Speaker 1: of explore some of the issues that have come up
Speaker 1: with black folks who agree with the band because of
Speaker 1: things that they don't like in the curriculum. So today
Speaker 1: is not a good day to talk about it because
Speaker 1: we don't have the time to really get into it.
Speaker 1: But certainly next week, and in fact, I go as
Speaker 1: far as saying that perhaps we need to, um, you know,
Speaker 1: at some point pull in some professionals that could really
Speaker 1: talk about this whole issue. With that said, let's get
Speaker 1: to our guests. I'm excited about this guest because you know,
Speaker 1: he's supposed to be the hot hot So let's go
Speaker 1: see what he what he what he got hot? So
Speaker 1: today we have a special guest in the in the
Speaker 1: spirit of Black History Month. You know, I've been on
Speaker 1: all black businesses supporting black um business owners, shoe brands
Speaker 1: in particular, and this has come to be one of
Speaker 1: my favorites. You know, his the quality, the style, everything
Speaker 1: about his brand is just amazing. We have the the
Speaker 1: Great Devil and Carter the owner of Side Collective, which
Speaker 1: stands for somewhere in America. How you doing today, King,
Speaker 1: I'm doing good. How you doing? Um Man, I'm blessed
Speaker 1: and holly favorite. You know, it is Black History Mom,
Speaker 1: so we want to we want to really spread this
Speaker 1: black owned businesses and support our own. You know, um
Speaker 1: you were one of the main people when I decided
Speaker 1: this campaign that I wasn't buying the more Nikes. Your
Speaker 1: brand was the first person in my inbox. Everybody's like,
Speaker 1: you gotta get side, you gotta get sided. And it's
Speaker 1: from you know, people that I really respected, and I
Speaker 1: must say many they definitely didn't steer me wrong, man,
Speaker 1: So I definitely wanted to say I appreciate especially the
Speaker 1: quality and you know, and the uniqueness is you know,
Speaker 1: it's a lot of different brands, and there's a lot
Speaker 1: of black owned businesses, but there's a level of quality
Speaker 1: and you have your own unique style that I just
Speaker 1: want to appreciate. Man, So, so what made you start
Speaker 1: doing this? How long have you been doing it? Okay?
Speaker 1: So um I started doing I started with sneaker customizing.
Speaker 1: So when I was nineteen, I went to Queensboro Community
Speaker 1: College in Queens, New York, and I met a dude
Speaker 1: that was painting his Jordan's and he showed me how
Speaker 1: to like paint my Jordan's different colors. He wasn't telling
Speaker 1: nobody else. So I used to just walk around with
Speaker 1: my Jordan's painted different colors, and people like when you
Speaker 1: get black and yellow doing from And I used to
Speaker 1: always use this line because my sister was in the army.
Speaker 1: It's like my sisters in the army in Germany, they
Speaker 1: just get different colors than us. Because the Internet wasn't
Speaker 1: popping like it was. You know, we talked and uh
Speaker 1: so that's how it started. And then a few years later,
Speaker 1: other people started figuring out and painting their Jay's. So
Speaker 1: then I was like, I gotta do something that they
Speaker 1: can't do. So I was like, my mom always was
Speaker 1: the seamstress, she always made clothes. I was like, what
Speaker 1: if I used my talent and like my gift for
Speaker 1: being able to pick fabrics and start putting fabrics on shoes,
Speaker 1: and that's what I started doing. In like two thousand,
Speaker 1: two thousand and one, I started doing a lot of
Speaker 1: rappers videos, doing the Gucci Air Force ones and all
Speaker 1: of those type of things. And that's when I started
Speaker 1: making enough money where I had then got into owning
Speaker 1: my own barbershop. Did that for about ten years, and
Speaker 1: then at twenty five, I just said, you know what,
Speaker 1: I didn't make it rich in fashion like I told
Speaker 1: my sister I would, so I said I would give
Speaker 1: the military a try. So in two thousand and three,
Speaker 1: I joined the United States Coast Guard. I did that
Speaker 1: for eleven years, and just in my last year. You know,
Speaker 1: I have kids, I'm moving around every four years, and
Speaker 1: I'm not with my kids mom. So then I have
Speaker 1: to live in New York and their mom's living in California,
Speaker 1: and I'm just like, nah, this is not how I
Speaker 1: pictured fatherhood to be. So I said, Instagram is out.
Speaker 1: I'm seeing all these guys customer sneakers and making a
Speaker 1: lot of money. I was doing it for one fifty
Speaker 1: getting a thousand, So I said, you know, what, I'm
Speaker 1: gonna just put all my time into showing them I'm
Speaker 1: really that guy can really do dope customs. So I
Speaker 1: just started doing new customs every day, taking shoes fully apart,
Speaker 1: remaking up with snakeskin, alligate, all that cool stuff. And
Speaker 1: I started making more money at doing that than my
Speaker 1: military salary. So I said, you know what, I'm gonna
Speaker 1: get out and I'm actually gonna go to fashion school
Speaker 1: and really be you know that that that thing to
Speaker 1: my daughters when I say, yo, you can do whatever
Speaker 1: you want if you put your mind to it. But
Speaker 1: if I never been the dad that go and give
Speaker 1: up a whole career nine years short of retirement and
Speaker 1: trying it, then I feel like I would be a
Speaker 1: hypocrite telling them to chase their dreams if I never
Speaker 1: chase line. So I got out of the Coast Guard
Speaker 1: and I went to the Fashion Institute of San Francisco,
Speaker 1: graduated with honors, and from there open my own boutique.
Speaker 1: The pandemic causes to close that down, and I just
Speaker 1: went direct to consumer. Wow. Wow, So I'm hearing so
Speaker 1: many amazing things from you as a black man. It
Speaker 1: makes me, as a black woman, just feel so full
Speaker 1: just to hear you talk about you know, ownership of course,
Speaker 1: you know, entrepreneurship. Then whatever was necessary. If you needed
Speaker 1: to go to the coast Guard and get a job,
Speaker 1: you had to go do that, which means you meant
Speaker 1: you also served our country. Um. Then you talked about
Speaker 1: you know, fashion schools, so every step of the way
Speaker 1: you were very intentional about this moment that you're in
Speaker 1: right now. So many of our young people think they
Speaker 1: can just pop up a shop and start selling things.
Speaker 1: And it's not just young, it's a lot of people
Speaker 1: that do not understand the brind and the hustle and
Speaker 1: the steps and the fact that you had to go
Speaker 1: in different directions to come to the place here in
Speaker 1: now and with an ultimate goal of being a stable
Speaker 1: father who had access to being you know, with his
Speaker 1: children at all times. I think it's an incredible story.
Speaker 1: And you know I have heard um, you know, over
Speaker 1: and over from people, you know when we're when you know,
Speaker 1: folks always come to me like why has my song
Speaker 1: throwing out all his sneakers? Everything he does? The people
Speaker 1: call me and you know talk about him and ask
Speaker 1: me what you think can you stop him? Like tell
Speaker 1: him he you know, they always do that, and um,
Speaker 1: you know you always come up, Sia, the brand comes
Speaker 1: up all the time as being like the hot brand.
Speaker 1: So you know, congratulations on that. Tell us the steps
Speaker 1: in terms of not not you know, I know, the
Speaker 1: career steps, but in terms of how you actually your
Speaker 1: brand front and center. What was that like? Okay, So
Speaker 1: when um, when I had got out of when I
Speaker 1: graduated college, then um, I'm a I'm a super homebody,
Speaker 1: you know, like I don't all of that nightlife stuff
Speaker 1: and all of that. It just doesn't do it for me.
Speaker 1: It's like it's my kids and my passion. That's my
Speaker 1: day to day. So when I wanted to start, sayah,
Speaker 1: a meme was going around on Instagram and it was
Speaker 1: Steve Jobs, um, Jeff Bezos, Bill Gates, all of these
Speaker 1: guys started their company in their garage and they grew
Speaker 1: to be multimillion dollar and their multibillion dollar companies. So
Speaker 1: when I seen that meme, I I screenshot at it
Speaker 1: and I told my kids, I said, look, you see
Speaker 1: these guys they started in their garage. Watch I'm gonna
Speaker 1: build a multimillion dollar company from our garage and the
Speaker 1: garage that where I lived at I was paying rent.
Speaker 1: I wasn't a homeowner yet. So and I built. We
Speaker 1: stopped parking our cars in the garage. I built all
Speaker 1: the shelves, the computer, the system and everything. And I said,
Speaker 1: I'm gonna start a brand that's literally Director Consumer because
Speaker 1: us I learned in school that Director Consumer was going
Speaker 1: to be what the market was going to start changing into.
Speaker 1: And this is before the pandemic, and the pandemic just
Speaker 1: really just jet said it that forward. So I said,
Speaker 1: if I could build the straight to consumer, what I
Speaker 1: can then do is I can give higher quality being
Speaker 1: that I don't have a whole seller and I don't
Speaker 1: have to pay somebody else to sell my stuff if
Speaker 1: I'm ready to put the work in and do the
Speaker 1: work myself. As of now, we've made over fifty million
Speaker 1: dollars and I haven't paid for one advertisement yet. Like,
Speaker 1: I just wanted to build something organically. And I knew
Speaker 1: from being a customizer, if I was dedicated and if
Speaker 1: I would show the people that my passion and my dedication,
Speaker 1: and I would teach my customers because one thing I
Speaker 1: always do is teach them. I'm like, look this, this
Speaker 1: this hoodie you're buying for three hundred dollars. This is
Speaker 1: this is like eight d G s ms. This is
Speaker 1: the lightest way you can get. This is cheap, and
Speaker 1: you're paying this price. You gotta go four hundred and
Speaker 1: d G s ms. I'll pull out the books, I'll
Speaker 1: pull out the Pantone coach because I feel like, no
Speaker 1: matter what, as long as I'm teaching, somebody is going
Speaker 1: to be that X person that's gonna be like Because
Speaker 1: I may not make it to be the greatest black
Speaker 1: design or whatever or brand. It may be the kid
Speaker 1: that I've been tutoring and mentoring to do that. But
Speaker 1: as long as one of us do it and we
Speaker 1: can continue to make that, then then that would be
Speaker 1: what it is. But one thing that, like you said,
Speaker 1: these people don't understand you can't just pop up and
Speaker 1: have a brand. One thing people don't know when I
Speaker 1: got out of them, I was in the military. I
Speaker 1: got out a year left on my contract because we
Speaker 1: had a family hardship, so I had to pay and
Speaker 1: move myself. Usually the military will move you from where
Speaker 1: you're at to your new location. I had to pay
Speaker 1: for it because it was a hardship, so I lost
Speaker 1: all my savings account moving from New York to California
Speaker 1: to then um put down enough to get enough, you know,
Speaker 1: too much rent, two months security and all of that
Speaker 1: to move. And then at the time I was doing
Speaker 1: great in New York, I had a Mercedes that I
Speaker 1: was paying nine hundred dollars school with my my stuff,
Speaker 1: and then my apartment was thirteen hundred dollars. When I
Speaker 1: got out of the Coast Guard, I had thirteen hundred
Speaker 1: and fifty dollars to my name. So and I'm in California,
Speaker 1: have no family here. So I said one thing I'm
Speaker 1: not gonna do. I'm not gonna fail. And I said too,
Speaker 1: I will never ever allow myself to be this low
Speaker 1: in life where I'm this close to being homeless. So
Speaker 1: what I had did to get out of that. I
Speaker 1: always taught people how to customer shoes. I've always been
Speaker 1: a teacher. So I used to have this die that
Speaker 1: you can die at the bottom of like rubber shoes,
Speaker 1: like join the Levins, and it would change from pink
Speaker 1: to yellow to whatever color you wanted. And that die
Speaker 1: went viral, and I was selling that die for twenty
Speaker 1: five dollars for like a half an ounce, but a
Speaker 1: half hours could do like six pair of shoes, so
Speaker 1: other customizer was buying it for me charge of seventy
Speaker 1: five dollars new people's shoes. I was making fifty grand
Speaker 1: a month off of a die. I was making in
Speaker 1: my sink right, So with the money from that die,
Speaker 1: what I did was I remember that. I said, listen,
Speaker 1: I am never gonna go back to this point. So
Speaker 1: even when I was making a lot of money, I
Speaker 1: lived like I was broke. I was eating top rhymen.
Speaker 1: I would only eat a good meal like shrimp steak
Speaker 1: on a Friday. I was eating like I was a
Speaker 1: poor college kid. And I'm just sitting there stacking the money,
Speaker 1: stacking the money because one thing I've known throughout my
Speaker 1: whole life is that nobody is really gonna finance your dream.
Speaker 1: When you're ready for that dream and you're ready to
Speaker 1: do that, you can get a hundred thousand dollars of
Speaker 1: school loans, but your press is not gonna finance your
Speaker 1: business freedom Like they're not gonna give you the money
Speaker 1: that's gonna take if you say, hey, I want twenty
Speaker 1: tho dollars. I see the storefront, I want to put
Speaker 1: my clothes in there. I know what's gonna sell out.
Speaker 1: I have good sell through on my website. When I
Speaker 1: do this, they're gonna be like, oh no, we just
Speaker 1: don't see it. Because if you give somebody twenty dollars,
Speaker 1: they can pay that back in the month. You give
Speaker 1: my hundred thousand dollars, you owe them for life, so
Speaker 1: they have your leverage. I never gave up my leverage
Speaker 1: through this whole journey, and that's one thing that I
Speaker 1: would love to let other entrepreneurs know that's coming up.
Speaker 1: You got to be ready for those sacrifices. You have
Speaker 1: to know that that this is what it's going to take.
Speaker 1: Like these companies are not going to give you a loan, right,
Speaker 1: So if you know that, then you can prepare yourself
Speaker 1: to never be in that situation where you need to
Speaker 1: hand out to to believe to to to get out
Speaker 1: what you actually believe in. That's real. I say that
Speaker 1: all the time, and it's it's a mind state we have.
Speaker 1: We have a mindset that we are so attached to
Speaker 1: the structure in the system that we don't even believe.
Speaker 1: And when I made the decision that I wasn't wearing nikes,
Speaker 1: that's what it was for me. You know, it was
Speaker 1: something that you know, the the guy said, the night
Speaker 1: guy from Nike, and it reson. It made me just
Speaker 1: feel a way, and I was like, really, it really
Speaker 1: bothered me. And I was like, damn, I got hundreds
Speaker 1: of pair of Nikes, man, I want to say. And
Speaker 1: then I said to myself, why do I feel like
Speaker 1: I'm attached to these sneakers? Why do I feel like this?
Speaker 1: I can't get out of this brand because they've been
Speaker 1: doctrinated me into some ship that I don't even want
Speaker 1: to be a part of. But I feel, well, I
Speaker 1: brought these sneakers, so I have to deal with the
Speaker 1: disrespect and all of this ship that comes with it
Speaker 1: because I'm attached to a brand. So what I want
Speaker 1: to ask you is what was the process like for
Speaker 1: you getting people to to buy into your bread Because
Speaker 1: people are so indoctrinated into you know, the Nike this
Speaker 1: and that. How how hard have you seen just transitioning
Speaker 1: your your own black people to say, look, we got
Speaker 1: quality sneakers here too. Is do you see the process
Speaker 1: to where it's hard or is it is it? Is
Speaker 1: it become easy? And what do you say? So in
Speaker 1: the beginning, like I told you, guys, I was customizing Nikes.
Speaker 1: I was taking Jordan's apart, making them look dope with
Speaker 1: real snake skin and real quality. So I built up
Speaker 1: my audience that way first. And then what became cool
Speaker 1: about that as my audience started turning on Nike. This
Speaker 1: is before Nike's done. Ay, I'm talking about like six
Speaker 1: years ago, they started telling me like, yo, why are
Speaker 1: you wasting your talent making Nike shoes look good? Where
Speaker 1: you should make your own sneakers. And at the time,
Speaker 1: and I'm not gonna lie, I was kind offended, like
Speaker 1: me make my own steak. How I'm gonna make my
Speaker 1: own sneaker? Like I didn't even know that was a possibility,
Speaker 1: you know. So the good thing is that why it's
Speaker 1: also good to go to college. For the young kids
Speaker 1: listening on my profile, it says fit them graduate. So
Speaker 1: what happened was somebody else who graduated from FIDOM who's
Speaker 1: in manufacturing, seeing that and reached out to me saying, hey, brother,
Speaker 1: I know you're you're a filom Alum. I'm also a
Speaker 1: filom Alum. I'm African American and I live in China.
Speaker 1: I could actually introduce you to factories and get your
Speaker 1: product me if you ever want to make your own sneakers.
Speaker 1: And then from there that's when the light took off.
Speaker 1: I was like, you know what, at the time, I'm
Speaker 1: a sneakerhead, so I'm in a sneaker community. I can
Speaker 1: hear all the complaints. We're tired of Jordan's going up
Speaker 1: in price, but the leather getting worse and it's not
Speaker 1: real leather and it's not this. So I said, okay,
Speaker 1: there's a there's a niche market of people who actually
Speaker 1: want genuine leather dope shoes that you can still wear
Speaker 1: with jeans. Because the Nike shoes like Jordan's look good
Speaker 1: because we want them with jeans. But when you get
Speaker 1: the Lebrons and all these other shoes, they don't look
Speaker 1: good with jeans anymore. They're really straight performance monsters, right.
Speaker 1: So being that now there's an avenue of people needing
Speaker 1: a sneaker that they can wear with jeans, and I said,
Speaker 1: you know what, I'm going to create that sneaker. And
Speaker 1: that's how it started with people seeing it and people
Speaker 1: doing reviews. And now they're comparing my first shoe that
Speaker 1: I designed to a nineties They're like, this is not
Speaker 1: even this is not even closed, like this quality is
Speaker 1: this qualities doing. I don't even know how he's summing
Speaker 1: it for this price. You know, when I went on
Speaker 1: the breakfast Club, envy was like, literally, this shoe should
Speaker 1: be eighteen hundred dollars. So then more people started seeing
Speaker 1: it because they're like, Wow, this guy who buys all
Speaker 1: this you know, um designer is saying this shoe is
Speaker 1: a better quality by black men. That started making people
Speaker 1: like come around and giving us a shot. And when
Speaker 1: they give you a shot and you live up to it,
Speaker 1: then and they're wearing something that nobody knows and they're
Speaker 1: walking in the streets and somebody say, yo, what shoes
Speaker 1: are you wearing? Those are fly? That's it because now
Speaker 1: you know you got on something dope. And then it's
Speaker 1: also like back in the nineties, Holley, New York, we
Speaker 1: didn't want to look like nobody else. If you was
Speaker 1: at hall M, you would go to Brooklyn to get
Speaker 1: something that Hall M. Dudes wouldn't go to Brooklyn to
Speaker 1: get and so on and so forth. So it's like
Speaker 1: it's like having a little bit of still that New
Speaker 1: York and also still just being a people watching the people.
Speaker 1: Abserba what would your first I want to ask, what
Speaker 1: was the do you know the first shoe do you have? Yeah,
Speaker 1: it's called the V It's called the VV one, the
Speaker 1: Valor Victorian. I have it right here. So this was
Speaker 1: the first shoe. We designed, this colorway and everything right,
Speaker 1: it's a nice it's a um it's a vege tan color,
Speaker 1: so it's a nice tan. And then the inside is
Speaker 1: a light pink. And I had did this shoe because
Speaker 1: I wanted in a new true color that women would
Speaker 1: also like. But also it was it was a dedication
Speaker 1: to my mom and my first daughter that passed away.
Speaker 1: So like on the box that had a message to
Speaker 1: my my first daughter telling her, you know, like daddy's
Speaker 1: doing it, I'm doing everything. I came to your grave
Speaker 1: and told you I was gonna do when I got
Speaker 1: out the military. And then also my mom at the time,
Speaker 1: she was sick, so I had a birthday on the inside.
Speaker 1: So and the dope thing about the shoes when we
Speaker 1: sold it, I sold it at my boutique and I said,
Speaker 1: we're going back to the old way of doing stuff.
Speaker 1: The only way you could buy it is if you're
Speaker 1: at the store. And this first come, first served it's
Speaker 1: no raffles, it's none of all that other stuff. Brother,
Speaker 1: And when we did that shoe the next day, we
Speaker 1: had a line around the corner. People flew in from China,
Speaker 1: New York, from all these different states online to buy
Speaker 1: that shoe. You. And from there it's been like I knew,
Speaker 1: I was, I made the right decision and I knew, like, yo,
Speaker 1: this is this is gonna go somewhere. As long as
Speaker 1: I continue to stay on message. Wow, that's amazing. And
Speaker 1: you know what I love about what you just said.
Speaker 1: You actually, because you own your brand, because it is
Speaker 1: your creation and your design, you were able to customize
Speaker 1: it to what felt. Um, you know, like a spiritual
Speaker 1: connection for you. And that's something that we don't get
Speaker 1: when we're buying things from companies that don't know, understand
Speaker 1: nor respect us. Right, Like I don't want to buy
Speaker 1: a pair of sneakers that has you know, some other
Speaker 1: person outside of my community's family member and love one
Speaker 1: and story on it like I want to. I want
Speaker 1: to experience that with my brothers and sisters, right. Um.
Speaker 1: So you know that's a powerful point. I have two questions.
Speaker 1: One is you mentioned your daughter condolences to you and family.
Speaker 1: How old was she when she passed away and how
Speaker 1: long ago was that? And then the second question is
Speaker 1: what's your team like, like who are all the folks
Speaker 1: that you have working with you because it sounds like
Speaker 1: you do a lot of one man in uh Okay.
Speaker 1: So my daughter, she was uh thirty one days before
Speaker 1: turning one years old. I was I was with my
Speaker 1: first wife. I was in the Coast Guard and we
Speaker 1: were stationed in in Mississippi and Hurricane Katrina was happening.
Speaker 1: So when Hurricane Katrina happened, my um, my ex wife,
Speaker 1: she was from Oakland, so they moved her before the
Speaker 1: hurricane came and I was out in the ocean doing
Speaker 1: hurricane relief. But when we during her whole pregnancy, I
Speaker 1: just always was like, you know this this is also
Speaker 1: my first chow ever. But I'm like, yo, your stomach
Speaker 1: is not to the you know, it's not big, Like
Speaker 1: I think there's something should be bigger than that. At
Speaker 1: the month that you are, I always thought something was
Speaker 1: all with that, But then my mom reashowed me like,
Speaker 1: well when I had you, I barely had stomach. So,
Speaker 1: you know, when we got stationed back to California because
Speaker 1: of the hurricane to get out the way, she got
Speaker 1: a new doctor and they was saying that she wasn't
Speaker 1: making enough amniotic fluid, so they had to induce the
Speaker 1: labor five weeks early. Like everything was going good, My
Speaker 1: daughter was fine. I never knew she was even in
Speaker 1: any danger of passing away until she passed away. Then
Speaker 1: they would tell us like, well, you know, she had
Speaker 1: this and she had that and these different things that
Speaker 1: they never told us. So it really hit and we
Speaker 1: were already separated at the time, so that made even harder,
Speaker 1: you know. Um, yeah, you know it was hard because
Speaker 1: like I got married, I didn't want a baby mother,
Speaker 1: you know, I wanted a wife, and I get it,
Speaker 1: and I get my I wanted a daughter. I got
Speaker 1: a daughter, and God took her away. Like I thought
Speaker 1: it was unfair, Like I was so angry about that,
Speaker 1: you know. But but um, but you know, it's like
Speaker 1: everything happened for a reason. The stuff they was telling
Speaker 1: us afterwards, Like she would have been in pain, she
Speaker 1: probably would have never walked, So it kind of like,
Speaker 1: maybe not be so selfish about it, you know. And um,
Speaker 1: you know, but then I sit after that, I'm gonna
Speaker 1: dedicate everything I do to you, you know, So there's
Speaker 1: no reason to be scared fearful. I have the guardian
Speaker 1: angel that's gonna make sure Daddy is good. Right. So um,
Speaker 1: after getting you know, after getting out of that, you know,
Speaker 1: and finally, like it still hurts, like because she was
Speaker 1: born in in September. Um, she died in September. She's
Speaker 1: born in October, so around that time, it's always a
Speaker 1: little you know, because I miss her. She would have
Speaker 1: been seventeen, So she would have been seventeen if she
Speaker 1: would have lived like her whole her whole life up
Speaker 1: until now. Um. But yeah, you know. So she's my
Speaker 1: inspiration for why I do what I do, you know,
Speaker 1: And I always want to be just a great dad
Speaker 1: and somebody she could be proud of as a man,
Speaker 1: you know. So I keep those morals and those beliefs
Speaker 1: and everything that I know. I'm looking out for my angel,
Speaker 1: and I know she's proud because I've done it, you know,
Speaker 1: and I've done it with the help of my team.
Speaker 1: So here I have I just I just moved my
Speaker 1: best friend from New York. I just moved her out
Speaker 1: here with her family, so I have her, have my assistant,
Speaker 1: Ashley have my code design who I graduated college with
Speaker 1: Danny here I got. I have like ten people that
Speaker 1: work here out of my house. I own two clothing
Speaker 1: factories in Pakistan where I have twenty two workers there. Um,
Speaker 1: so I have a team. And then I have my
Speaker 1: fulfillment center and in Colorado and it's about fourteen of them.
Speaker 1: So I have like a forty like closer forty man team.
Speaker 1: But when it comes down to literally what we do
Speaker 1: on a daily basis designing, that's what I do. I
Speaker 1: wake up in the morning and me and Danny just
Speaker 1: designed all day because you know, we have to compete
Speaker 1: with those bigger guys and Nike. They might have twenty
Speaker 1: people in their design team, but they're not gonna put
Speaker 1: out as much work as me and Danny are gonna
Speaker 1: put out because we come here to do that. This
Speaker 1: is our baby. With them, they're just taking a check,
Speaker 1: so the passion is different. They'll leave, get fired from
Speaker 1: Nike and work for under Armed the very next day,
Speaker 1: So it's just a check for them. For me, it's
Speaker 1: it's it's it's my family legacy. It's I have to
Speaker 1: be the guy to show like as far as I
Speaker 1: get then then there's no excuse for anybody behind me. Said, well,
Speaker 1: I can't get to that level because nobody's done it
Speaker 1: before me. But now you have somebody who was doing it.
Speaker 1: You have a guy with a shoe in the NBA
Speaker 1: with no commercials. You you know, you have all of
Speaker 1: these things that you can't use that as an excuse anymore.
Speaker 1: That's dope. So you know, during the boycott, I was
Speaker 1: supporting Kyrie, you know, I was supporting you, and you know,
Speaker 1: and it was it was dope to see that you guys,
Speaker 1: actually you knew had a meeting with his team, you know,
Speaker 1: to try to figure out something about shoes and then
Speaker 1: figuring out how could you guys collaborate? How did that
Speaker 1: come about? And like what what's the status of that now? Yeah,
Speaker 1: and and that came about through even just being on
Speaker 1: your page and and and seeing you post all of
Speaker 1: the stuff. And then something to Mika has said was
Speaker 1: like the last straw for her was when the guy
Speaker 1: at Nike the own said that he what he said
Speaker 1: went too far, and I'm like, he didn't say anything.
Speaker 1: How could you not say a word and get fired
Speaker 1: for hate speech? Like that was just the last draw
Speaker 1: for me and then um, you know when I got
Speaker 1: once he got dropped, everybody started adding me on every post,
Speaker 1: like you should reach out to Kyrie, you should reach
Speaker 1: out to Kyrie. Nike dropped him. So I watched what
Speaker 1: Kyrie does. Like one thing like Kyrie is he's about
Speaker 1: loving all. He's about peace, and he also is a
Speaker 1: he gives back a lot more than they talk about,
Speaker 1: like he'll donate. He donates money here there, here there,
Speaker 1: And that's what I do in my community to what
Speaker 1: I have just the utmost respect for people who are
Speaker 1: financially able to give back in this not just about oh,
Speaker 1: stacking all this money, stacking all this money, because people
Speaker 1: just don't realize it doesn't matter how much money you have.
Speaker 1: It doesn't change anything in your life other than the
Speaker 1: stresser of paying a bill, and that's only a one
Speaker 1: minor stresser for people and at you. Other than that,
Speaker 1: you still have the same problems. So being that he
Speaker 1: does so much for other people, I was offering my
Speaker 1: services for free, like I can help you get the
Speaker 1: factories in China if you want to do your own brand,
Speaker 1: the same way Kobe was gonna do before his untimely passing.
Speaker 1: He was gonna start Mamba Sports. And I would love
Speaker 1: to see Kyrie finished that, you know so, and I
Speaker 1: know that he may not have those those connections and
Speaker 1: those doors to get unlocked, and I can open those
Speaker 1: doors for him. I can hook him up with with
Speaker 1: manufacturers that can bring I can help him design the
Speaker 1: shoe and bring it to the manufactur and get it made.
Speaker 1: I even had a podiatrist on board ready to help
Speaker 1: with the science of the shoe, all of these different
Speaker 1: things that you would need because people think that it's
Speaker 1: so hard to do with these big companies are doing.
Speaker 1: They're like all the tech that's in shoes, it's not
Speaker 1: a lot of tech and shoes. They act like they're
Speaker 1: putting rocket science in these shoes. It's literally phone different
Speaker 1: types of densities in the phone. There's what you call
Speaker 1: a shank plate, which is like either plastical carbon fire.
Speaker 1: But that's any shoe that makes it bounce back when
Speaker 1: you snap it in half, so that's an energy return.
Speaker 1: There's not too much more than that to a shoe.
Speaker 1: Mind you, we watched Patrick, you and them playing shoes
Speaker 1: that just was rubber, so you know it's it's not
Speaker 1: people just they make They do all these cute advertising
Speaker 1: and marketing to make you think that there's so much
Speaker 1: more that goes into this product that it really does it.
Speaker 1: And I'm very familiar with that. Well, listen, I hope
Speaker 1: that you and Kyrie are able to work together. You know,
Speaker 1: I know his manager who is his um, step mom um,
Speaker 1: and you know she's an incredible, brilliant businesswoman. And hopefully
Speaker 1: you all will be able to create something and make
Speaker 1: us proud, right like take it and and and and
Speaker 1: and go from the tragedy and the as far as
Speaker 1: I'm concerned and Undia injustice of Kyrie being dropped for
Speaker 1: uh this situation, which again he apologized. He said what
Speaker 1: he said. I respect him for as a man. He
Speaker 1: stood up to take knowledge what he his role in,
Speaker 1: um you know, in in offending another community, and I
Speaker 1: think he did he did that and he he um,
Speaker 1: he completed that task. However, you know, we all know
Speaker 1: that when black people have any issue, the world wants
Speaker 1: to literally lynch us. And that's what, in my opinion,
Speaker 1: happened to Kyrie. So I'm I hope that that that
Speaker 1: you guys are able to do it. The one thing
Speaker 1: is the two things, and I'm done that I wanted
Speaker 1: to talk about. One is I heard you talking about
Speaker 1: Pakistan and China and and those places. Obviously they are
Speaker 1: this is their expertise, this is what they do, right,
Speaker 1: But what I think we also need to be looking
Speaker 1: at is how we can go into the continent, into Africa.
Speaker 1: We visited Ghana and we learned that within Ghana there
Speaker 1: is so much brilliance and talent, but we have not
Speaker 1: set up and helped them to establish the infrastructure that
Speaker 1: they need to become the next China that can produce
Speaker 1: you know, products or whatever. And so I just wonder
Speaker 1: if you ever think about what it looks like to
Speaker 1: really go to and I know Kyrie is interested in, um,
Speaker 1: you know, being in Africa and finding ways to develop
Speaker 1: in that on our continent. Yeah, that that would be amazing.
Speaker 1: So the only thing is with so so the reason
Speaker 1: why you like, you know, people do production in like Turkey,
Speaker 1: China or Pakistan is because, um, there's like an app
Speaker 1: Ali Baba. Ali Baba gives you all of the warehouses,
Speaker 1: like all of the manufacturers around the whole world, so
Speaker 1: you can talk to them on the app of Ali Baba.
Speaker 1: But there's no if there was an Africa on there,
Speaker 1: then we would be able to talk to Africa and
Speaker 1: no like even not going there, Like I've never been
Speaker 1: to Pakistan, I probably won't go because Pakistan is just
Speaker 1: you're you're on the flight. Once you get once you
Speaker 1: go to Pakistan, you're done. Like you flying, you can
Speaker 1: stopped there be where, right. But so the thing is
Speaker 1: we it is getting I don't even know if they
Speaker 1: have factories. If they have factories, then I could do
Speaker 1: work there. But the thing is I don't even have
Speaker 1: the communication to talk to them. So that would be
Speaker 1: a trip, you know, the trip. First of all, we
Speaker 1: are we will be having a trip that's coming up
Speaker 1: in the next few months that we will invite you
Speaker 1: to come and be a part of. I don't know
Speaker 1: if they have factories, but they have land, and they
Speaker 1: have people, um, and they have brilliance. In fact, everything
Speaker 1: that everybody else is doing was created right there on
Speaker 1: the continent, and other people have been able to capitalize
Speaker 1: from our brilliance because for the most part, we've taught
Speaker 1: everybody everything and designed everything. So we should figure that
Speaker 1: out and and time is coming to an end. I
Speaker 1: want to ask you about customer service. All the things
Speaker 1: I've heard about the product, how great it is. Everybody
Speaker 1: has positive things to say, But I'm also in the
Speaker 1: comments because every now and then I read them. Have
Speaker 1: seen people, um with issues around customer service. Can you
Speaker 1: talk about that? And then and and my only little
Speaker 1: piece of advice as a person who I'm a big
Speaker 1: customer service UM, you know, I'm I'm anna want for
Speaker 1: customer service if you will. Sometimes we're great at creation
Speaker 1: and building and all of that, but need to have
Speaker 1: somebody else help out with the part that has to
Speaker 1: do with interfacing with people. Do you feel like that's
Speaker 1: an issue or something that you're working on. Nos. So
Speaker 1: the problem with customer services people don't read. And that's
Speaker 1: the problem with social media. So everything that we do
Speaker 1: is the most transparent, like right. So our product sells
Speaker 1: out super fast. So sometimes we'll have a shoe like this,
Speaker 1: we drop it in five minutes. The shoe was gone.
Speaker 1: I'm ready to move on to the next shoe because
Speaker 1: we have a warehouse full of new shoes to drop
Speaker 1: every week. We drop a new shoe every Friday and
Speaker 1: every Saturday. So when it sells out, some people are like,
Speaker 1: you know what, we want the product, but it's sold
Speaker 1: out too fast. Can you do a pre order? So
Speaker 1: I'll say sometimes I say no. A lot of times
Speaker 1: I say no. Recently I've been saying yes again because
Speaker 1: with the whole Kyrie thing, we've been getting a lot
Speaker 1: of new people. It literally says this is a pre order,
Speaker 1: and all in the description it says ninety days minimum.
Speaker 1: As we get our shoes made in China, so sometimes
Speaker 1: they may have COVID they have zero to All of
Speaker 1: this is in it. Then we also have an update
Speaker 1: on our page that's always there right here, so you
Speaker 1: hit the update tab and every single update that's made,
Speaker 1: we let me post an update. Every update. It will
Speaker 1: put it up every week, so like, look every weekly update.
Speaker 1: If you hit it, it tells you, and it's got
Speaker 1: the date in the corner for every update every week.
Speaker 1: If I have an update, I give it. The only
Speaker 1: thing is that social media everybody wants the quick. They
Speaker 1: don't want to read. I'll post a shoe right now.
Speaker 1: My sign has seen it. This shoe is dropping at
Speaker 1: ten o'clock California. Time in size is five to fifteen.
Speaker 1: The first it's common to be like, hey, when can
Speaker 1: I buy this shoe? Like I can't make people read
Speaker 1: and literally the people who complain about customer service are
Speaker 1: people who don't read. It's literally like, this shoe is
Speaker 1: a pre order, they'll act in two days. Yo, I
Speaker 1: haven't got my tracking number yet. What the f is
Speaker 1: going on? That's why I don't deal with black owned businesses.
Speaker 1: It's like a lot of black people have that that
Speaker 1: thing of like, Yo, they want to tear you down
Speaker 1: because they think you're going to do them wrong because
Speaker 1: of what they've conditioned us to believe. Right, I have this,
Speaker 1: It makes no sense for me to take your money
Speaker 1: and not give you the product, especially when I know
Speaker 1: the quality of my product and what it's gonna do.
Speaker 1: Once you have it, you're going to want to buy more.
Speaker 1: I would never take your money and not give you
Speaker 1: the product. But I also can't make people read when
Speaker 1: it's literally the first thing in there. Now, we've resorted
Speaker 1: to putting the word pre order on the picture on
Speaker 1: the website, so like, if you even get past that
Speaker 1: and we still have people order the shoe and it's
Speaker 1: a pre order on it and still hit us a
Speaker 1: week later saying why haven't the shoes ship yet? Now,
Speaker 1: those are the type of things I can't change that
Speaker 1: I have a. I don't do customer service. I have
Speaker 1: three people who answer customer service emails. It's right on
Speaker 1: my profile. It's it's just says email, you click that
Speaker 1: and your right to customer service. And the one of
Speaker 1: the young ladies who was in charge, the name is Astrid.
Speaker 1: She is amazing. She has an amazing pace. She's a sweetheart.
Speaker 1: She lives out of New Orleans and she answers all
Speaker 1: of the emails from there. And the people who actually
Speaker 1: hit her up they send me like, oh my god,
Speaker 1: she's so sweet. You have great customer service. But the
Speaker 1: people who think they should get their shoes in three
Speaker 1: days after they said ninety days are the people that
Speaker 1: are the ones that are complaining. Well, and everything I said,
Speaker 1: you can check it yourself. You can. Most of the
Speaker 1: people that I know, um that order from you, that
Speaker 1: you know, the people giving me that directly, people that
Speaker 1: I know, there's like, yo, I never had no problems.
Speaker 1: I never had no issues, So it's the best you
Speaker 1: should have been this. I've been on side for the
Speaker 1: last three years and I'm like, well, damn, nobody ain't
Speaker 1: telling me. But so you know, everybody has a different experience.
Speaker 1: So it seems like you explain that, but I just
Speaker 1: want to I want to ask this last question because
Speaker 1: I know you gotta go what is your ultimate goal
Speaker 1: for where do you see side in the next ten years?
Speaker 1: Like what do you ultimately want to do? So of
Speaker 1: course we're gonna continue to grow and continue to have
Speaker 1: dope things. We're gonna have shoes in the NBA. So
Speaker 1: now with the whole Kyrie thing, regardless of how that
Speaker 1: plays out, we're going full speed ahead and make a
Speaker 1: performance basketball shoes. I'm gonna see the ticket hold of
Speaker 1: Fragmental Kings, so I have players there that I can
Speaker 1: have where the shoes being at. I have, excuse me,
Speaker 1: Montrez Harrod who plays for the Sixers, who wears our shoes.
Speaker 1: He's also been signed to rebox. So I know how
Speaker 1: these companies run these things. Now, They'll literally not even
Speaker 1: pay players. They just give them shoes and give them
Speaker 1: an account on a website to get stuff for free.
Speaker 1: So like, I don't even have to be paying players
Speaker 1: millions of dollars to wear our products. And then a
Speaker 1: lot of players are just a part of the community
Speaker 1: and they're like, yo, if you make a basketball shot,
Speaker 1: I'm gonna wear it. Just just shoot me some sizes
Speaker 1: and I'm gonna support. The other thing that we're doing
Speaker 1: now is with UM with our new memberships, we're gonna
Speaker 1: do a discord, and I want our discord to be
Speaker 1: like a Black Wall Street. So it's like if you're
Speaker 1: in there and you support size, like, hey, I have
Speaker 1: this company that makes c moss, I have this company
Speaker 1: that that's a photographer, that's a videographer. So we have
Speaker 1: it in there, and if we can keep that whole
Speaker 1: group economics going in there. Now, we're building one multiple
Speaker 1: entities from one entity that's actually have a good amount
Speaker 1: of attention on them. Right now, it's always about how
Speaker 1: can we do as a community to bring each other
Speaker 1: up higher? Because if if my whole thing and in
Speaker 1: this whole thing that I'm doing with my company, with
Speaker 1: my business, is that I only made my family rich
Speaker 1: and I have been a big complete failure because because
Speaker 1: that's not my success. Like I wake up this is
Speaker 1: I'm doing what I never thought what's possible. I wake
Speaker 1: up every day in my house. Still. You know, we're
Speaker 1: building a facility, but in my house, I get the design.
Speaker 1: I get to be a stay at home dad and
Speaker 1: make millions at the same time, like I couldn't have
Speaker 1: it any other way. But the money has never been
Speaker 1: the motivation. The motivation is just what can you push
Speaker 1: the envelope next, like we've been doing, Like you're wearing
Speaker 1: the phone shoes. We've been doing the phone shoes before
Speaker 1: these companies been doing. And we're on our fifty and six.
Speaker 1: We're on our fifth six phone shoe and they're copying
Speaker 1: what we're doing, and we're moving on to seven and eight,
Speaker 1: like we we want to be that whatever, like you
Speaker 1: know what, oh, Nike did that, but it's I did
Speaker 1: that three years ago, you know, and you're all excited
Speaker 1: about it. Now you should have seen this guy, you know,
Speaker 1: So that that's that's that's the goal is just to
Speaker 1: keep doing that and to keep seeing other young um
Speaker 1: companies of color also strive, right because if we have
Speaker 1: it everywhere where we can get suits from this person,
Speaker 1: this person, this person, then nobody can tell us that
Speaker 1: they don't like what we say or what we stand
Speaker 1: for because we because we're so attached to these brands
Speaker 1: that don't care about us, like all these companies Nike, Adidas,
Speaker 1: they make all their money off for young black men
Speaker 1: that play sports. But yet you go to the projects,
Speaker 1: the courts are messed up. If this is your talent pool,
Speaker 1: why don't you invest in the community, Put a commun
Speaker 1: need to send it there, put a rex in and
Speaker 1: put a brand new court there. Right when we made
Speaker 1: our own version of the Timberlands, people from the hood
Speaker 1: were mad, like, why are you obsessed with Timberland? What
Speaker 1: they did for you? What do they do for you?
Speaker 1: When we made a better looking shoe with this better
Speaker 1: quality and the same exact price. But you say, oh,
Speaker 1: it's taboo to touch the Timberland like that. That mind
Speaker 1: state right there is not gonna get us nowhere. You're
Speaker 1: attached to something, to a whole another family that don't
Speaker 1: even care about your black skin. I've never seen Timberland say, yo,
Speaker 1: we want to we want to promote your next march.
Speaker 1: We want to give you guys the money to fly
Speaker 1: to go protests here, to protest there. Since you've been
Speaker 1: spotted in our boots while you've been doing the groundwork
Speaker 1: in Ferguson or dead. They don't care to all these
Speaker 1: companies that don't care about you, why do you care
Speaker 1: about them so much? And why is it a problem
Speaker 1: with somebody who looks like you tries to change that
Speaker 1: for the future coming up. Mh well, mouthful brother. And
Speaker 1: when we get when we get the answers to those,
Speaker 1: we're gonna be to change a lot, you know, because
Speaker 1: that's that's our biggest our biggest problem to me is
Speaker 1: that we were so attached to instruction, the system that
Speaker 1: doesn't love us, and we're so scared to break away
Speaker 1: from it. So when we when we finally break those chains,
Speaker 1: we're gonna get what we're supposed to get. I want
Speaker 1: to thank you for being here. King. Continue to do
Speaker 1: what you do this society somewhere in America. Devlin Carter
Speaker 1: sied collective. Keep making the fly shoes and need me
Speaker 1: a couple more. I've got to look with them, you know.
Speaker 1: But these these right here though, and I need the
Speaker 1: ones with the light up bottoms though. Yeah, I got you,
Speaker 1: we got you, said up five and boys, right, Yes,
Speaker 1: I got you, we got you. Going loot you man,
Speaker 1: keep being great. This is black history, mom, this is
Speaker 1: black excellence. That's right. That's right. Great interview. Thanks a lot.
Speaker 1: Thank you for having me. I appreciate you all for real.
Speaker 1: Thank you harder, thank you for joining three politicians a
Speaker 1: new friends, our new friends. That's a dope man, dope
Speaker 1: interview man shout out to Deblin, you know, side collective
Speaker 1: somewhere in America. He sees he's very business. Have you
Speaker 1: understands the game. You tell that he's been around and
Speaker 1: he studied his craft. You know, that's that's what you want.
Speaker 1: It's not just somebody to say, you know, let me
Speaker 1: go make a T shirt through the looms and just
Speaker 1: for the name. More than say I got a business. Now,
Speaker 1: it's a man who created his own empire, you know,
Speaker 1: who had a vision, who started out just customizing other
Speaker 1: brands of shoes and then you know, got put on
Speaker 1: to you know, actually creating his own brand. And it's
Speaker 1: and and I stand by it. You know, every pair
Speaker 1: of shoes that I have from Siyah Quality Fashionabooty different,
Speaker 1: they don't look like anything else. It's creative, you know.
Speaker 1: And you can see that he definitely believes in his brand.
Speaker 1: He has a lot of confidence. He's driven. Man. That's
Speaker 1: black excellence, man in black history more it is. And
Speaker 1: I love it. I mean I love his vigor. You know,
Speaker 1: the way he speaks, the way he knows his stuff,
Speaker 1: you know, the the the story you can hear to hustle,
Speaker 1: you hear everything. I love it. You know, I think
Speaker 1: he will even it's gonna it can only get better,
Speaker 1: you know. That's that's the one thing we know is
Speaker 1: it can only get better. And I think he needs
Speaker 1: to be supported. If they are issues and challenges, he
Speaker 1: needs to be made aware of them and we as
Speaker 1: a community. That's what the whole qualms of principles like,
Speaker 1: that's what the quands of principles are supposed to be about. Right.
Speaker 1: It's also what the uh the the steps of the
Speaker 1: stages of non violence that Dr King talked about, right
Speaker 1: and what he followed. It's all about when there has misunderstanding,
Speaker 1: when there are issues and challenges and things that would
Speaker 1: stop us from being able to grow and work together,
Speaker 1: we have to find a way to lean into those
Speaker 1: principles and figure out which one of those things can
Speaker 1: we use to mitigate the issue so that we can
Speaker 1: continue to move forward positively as a community where it
Speaker 1: will help us to grow. And I hope that anybody
Speaker 1: that's out there that's like, oh, well, I had a
Speaker 1: bad experience with Siah collective. You heard his response, But
Speaker 1: beyond that, figure out like even in yourself. Did I
Speaker 1: read all the information properly? And if I did, maybe
Speaker 1: you want to sit down and write an email. Now, Hey,
Speaker 1: I heard you talk about reading, but it wasn't so
Speaker 1: much the reading that was the issue. Here is my
Speaker 1: challenges without insults, without you know, being disrespectful or nasty
Speaker 1: about it, even if you feel like they were to
Speaker 1: you at one point. It all we can control is ourselves, right,
Speaker 1: and the only way that we can make what we
Speaker 1: have better is if we have the patients and the
Speaker 1: discipline a step back and say, I'm gonna try to
Speaker 1: approach this differently from how I have been impact to
Speaker 1: see if there's a better way forward. That's what we
Speaker 1: gotta do. I mean, it's what we have to do.
Speaker 1: You talked about at the top of the show. All
Speaker 1: of this stuff that's happening across this country and all
Speaker 1: the things even just in New York, people being killed,
Speaker 1: people being harmed, all kinds of things. We gotta change
Speaker 1: the way we communicate and deal and and and actually
Speaker 1: approach loving one another. You have to definitely have to,
Speaker 1: so shout out to once again, Shout out to Devlin,
Speaker 1: Shout out to side collective. Keep doing what you do now,
Speaker 1: my idol get it is a little laugh. It's a conversation,
Speaker 1: right that I constantly is and I'm confused. So and
Speaker 1: I'm and I'm talking to you and women, I want
Speaker 1: you to tune in. I want you to kind of
Speaker 1: help me because I know she's gonna probably try to
Speaker 1: break this down. So I was watching this interview, came
Speaker 1: across my timeline and it was Jesse who talking to
Speaker 1: Candy Code and they were talking about she's on Candy Code,
Speaker 1: I think talking to Candy. She was talking to Candy
Speaker 1: and she was on Candy Coded, and they were talking
Speaker 1: about women not having orgasms from sex, and I really,
Speaker 1: for the life of me, do not because this seems
Speaker 1: to be a common thing, and it was from my
Speaker 1: eighty percent ninety percent of women aren't having orgasms from sex, right,
Speaker 1: And I don't understand for the life of me, why
Speaker 1: y'all do it? And why are you not telling then
Speaker 1: that ain't giving you the orguys. It's it's like for me,
Speaker 1: it's it's I don't think I would ever have sex
Speaker 1: with a woman if I wasn't if I wasn't climax,
Speaker 1: and I don't see I don't the demand state of
Speaker 1: it to me is so crazy to me, like, I
Speaker 1: really just do not get it. What is the what
Speaker 1: like sex must be something completely different for women that
Speaker 1: it is for man, because then to have sex and
Speaker 1: not climax, it's like a waste of time. Well, first
Speaker 1: of all, a man, a male orgasm is visible, so
Speaker 1: you don't have the ability to fake as much as
Speaker 1: a woman. I mean, I'm just I'm going through my
Speaker 1: little point. So that's first of all. So what in
Speaker 1: order to understand that. I remember, I must have been
Speaker 1: I don't know twenty three and I went to see
Speaker 1: my um gyna cologists and I wasn't talking about orgasms.
Speaker 1: We were talking about something else, and she was just like, oh, well,
Speaker 1: you know most women don't have orgasms. And she started
Speaker 1: talking about before you even get far down the road
Speaker 1: in your sexual life, you need to learn to speak
Speaker 1: up and tell the truth about how you feel. And
Speaker 1: it took me some time to get to the place
Speaker 1: where I'm comfortable doing that. What I would say is
Speaker 1: that we have to understand society. You back. You and
Speaker 1: I have actually talked about this before, but it's been
Speaker 1: seasons and seasons ago. We have to act stually understand
Speaker 1: society and how things were designed right and this, and
Speaker 1: it connects to other conversations, even going back to what
Speaker 1: I said earlier about women being present in the movement, right,
Speaker 1: when you deal with patriarchy and what patriarchy means. And
Speaker 1: we were taught patrick patriarchy from a European mindset that
Speaker 1: the man is the head uh and and and and
Speaker 1: we support that. We support I know, I do. We've
Speaker 1: already talked about this. I support the man being the
Speaker 1: head of our household, a community, a home in my life.
Speaker 1: I have no issue with that. But we know from
Speaker 1: our African culture and values that it wasn't that the
Speaker 1: man was the head to the point that a woman
Speaker 1: was suppressed because obviously the king was. We would have
Speaker 1: to repeat things over and over again, so people don't
Speaker 1: forget the king couldn't even be um crowns as king
Speaker 1: unless the we agreed she had to tap him for leadership. Right.
Speaker 1: So when we know that, we know our values are
Speaker 1: not the way that European society sort of came in
Speaker 1: and changed our thinking. So once we started to take
Speaker 1: on values that don't belong to us, we were taught
Speaker 1: as women that our role our only role is to
Speaker 1: satisfy a man. That's all we're here to do, is
Speaker 1: to satisfy a man. Make sure the man is happy,
Speaker 1: and do whatever you gotta do to make him feel
Speaker 1: good so that he doesn't leave you go sleep with
Speaker 1: somebody else, you know. Of course, that's a big issue
Speaker 1: that a lot of women, even when they're physically in pain,
Speaker 1: they will have sex because they don't want their men
Speaker 1: to get frustrated and go out and seek other women.
Speaker 1: So it is a mindset that we as a community,
Speaker 1: we as a community just have to do a better
Speaker 1: job of sitting down as black people and returning to
Speaker 1: the culture that we work, that that we were going
Speaker 1: for or what was designed for us. Because we've been
Speaker 1: taught that we as women don't have as much value
Speaker 1: as a man, so our job is to please. We
Speaker 1: were never taught ever in every woman's home, the grandmamas
Speaker 1: or whatever they like. Girl, not every woman, but a
Speaker 1: lot of women, it's like, girl, just fake it, Just
Speaker 1: do whatever you gotta do, keep that man happy. And
Speaker 1: we never are taught what it takes to keep us
Speaker 1: happy as well. And by the way, most men don't
Speaker 1: know what the hell they're doing. I'm i keep saying
Speaker 1: that over your body's gonna listen. It's just like boxing, right,
Speaker 1: And I'm doing a lot of boxing now and I'm
Speaker 1: learning techniques and ship that I didn't know that I
Speaker 1: know now, you know ship that I used to know.
Speaker 1: But I'm being reminded that the trainer is saying, Hey,
Speaker 1: you gotta do it this way. You gotta turn this way,
Speaker 1: you gotta do this. You gotta keep doing it. No, no,
Speaker 1: you gotta keep doing it even what you gotta keep
Speaker 1: doing it. So my thing is this, if did I
Speaker 1: don't understand how relationship right unless I don't know, I
Speaker 1: don't know no man that's comfortable with just being in
Speaker 1: a relationship with a slave. Right. You want you want
Speaker 1: you want someone who values you. Yes, you want respect.
Speaker 1: You want somebody to uplift you, that makes you feel good.
Speaker 1: But that's damn. They're like rap. If I'm having sex
Speaker 1: with a woman and she enjoying herselfs and she in pain,
Speaker 1: and she doing all this ship just for me, I
Speaker 1: don't want that. No. I don't think any man of
Speaker 1: any level of integrity and honor wants to be having
Speaker 1: sex with a woman that's just going and you you're
Speaker 1: not enjoying it, and and you're not telling me the
Speaker 1: things that they can do to make you feel good.
Speaker 1: I don't like who taught you that that's what men were.
Speaker 1: But but well, I'm telling you that society what what
Speaker 1: I'm saying, But what I would say, I don't know
Speaker 1: about nobody wanting it because some people could care less,
Speaker 1: couldn't care less whether they are actually pleasing a woman.
Speaker 1: Some men they don't know that relationship with a woman.
Speaker 1: If you're just a woman that somebody just sees as
Speaker 1: you know, you just something to do, then cool. They
Speaker 1: just trying to know. Is that? All I know is
Speaker 1: that sometimes when I hear you speak, I hear you
Speaker 1: speak about you and your circle, your friends. I hear
Speaker 1: Angelo Attorney, Angelo Pinto, our other um, the one of
Speaker 1: the four co founders and until freedom. When when you
Speaker 1: all are talking and when we have these types of discussions,
Speaker 1: you often speak about it from your own perspective. I'm
Speaker 1: trying to tell you as a woman, right that I have,
Speaker 1: That's what I'm trying to say. That's what I think
Speaker 1: the conversation. Right, you as a woman can tell me
Speaker 1: how you perceive thing, because I can't tell you as
Speaker 1: a man, what I'm saying as a woman, I'm telling
Speaker 1: you what my experience has been and what the experiences
Speaker 1: of a lot of other women have been. They can't
Speaker 1: even The thing is, a lot of men are fragile,
Speaker 1: They have fragile egos, and they cannot take anybody telling
Speaker 1: them what they are or are not doing properly. They
Speaker 1: can't even have those kind of those kinds of conversations.
Speaker 1: I will say that some of it goes back to
Speaker 1: the fact that when you lie or faith as a
Speaker 1: woman for so long, you have a situation where people
Speaker 1: don't know. They don't even know what they don't know.
Speaker 1: So therefore it's like, you know, they believe that they're
Speaker 1: doing something because you're faking it and making them think
Speaker 1: that they're actually doing something good, and they're not so
Speaker 1: that that I get it, I get how we got here,
Speaker 1: and I understand there's a lot of guys out here
Speaker 1: that they've been lied to for so long that they
Speaker 1: don't even know what they don't know. But I'm saying
Speaker 1: still this point, my original point is that a lot
Speaker 1: of men can't even take a woman telling them, Hey, actually,
Speaker 1: I don't even have orgasms with you. It's not really working.
Speaker 1: They can't take that. You know what they do? They
Speaker 1: let me tell you what they do. They get an
Speaker 1: attitude about it. It gets in their head. They're unable
Speaker 1: to even move forward. And the other thing that some
Speaker 1: of them do is go find Tricksie who is going
Speaker 1: hell and whether and maybe she does like it or
Speaker 1: she's faking better. But a lot of people's egos too
Speaker 1: fragile to take you come into them telling them the truth.
Speaker 1: I'm just telling you my thing is this. I don't
Speaker 1: It's not that I don't understand it for the man,
Speaker 1: because I can understand the man because he goes. He
Speaker 1: get off whether you tell him or not, he gonna
Speaker 1: he getting whatever he get. He think you're doing, think
Speaker 1: you like it, so he's going along with the situation.
Speaker 1: What I don't get is the mind state of you
Speaker 1: just said all of that, and I still, for the
Speaker 1: life of me, it still does not make sense to
Speaker 1: me that you will want to in habitat being a
Speaker 1: relationship with out of which word with, I don't know.
Speaker 1: I guess you said live in the same space together, Okay, exactly?
Speaker 1: You want to have you want to share space with somebody,
Speaker 1: all these things with somebody who doesn't satisfy you like
Speaker 1: and and be in the relationship with that. I just
Speaker 1: don't understand. Well, we could put a pen here. I'm
Speaker 1: not it ain't gonna happen. But when I'm listening to
Speaker 1: them say that, I'm like, it is unbelievable. So you'll
Speaker 1: please let me know, Jesse Jesse, to let me know
Speaker 1: what's going on, because I'm confused. Jesse Jesse. Our sister
Speaker 1: was telling the truth about her experience, and it is
Speaker 1: the experience of a lot of women because Candy and
Speaker 1: that same clip. She ended it by saying that percent
Speaker 1: or so of women don't have orgasms from penetration because
Speaker 1: it's not the easiest thing to do. You gotta have
Speaker 1: a lot of patients. You have to actually get to
Speaker 1: earn a woman's body and what it is that's gonna
Speaker 1: trigger them. And there's a lot of prior and and
Speaker 1: you know a lot of things mentally, right, like, you
Speaker 1: can't stress me out, you are liar, you a Cheatah,
Speaker 1: We're going through all of this drama and then we
Speaker 1: lay down together and I'm and I'm supposed to have
Speaker 1: these amazing experiences. Actually, all of that sex doesn't just
Speaker 1: start in a Bay sex starts outside of that thinking
Speaker 1: for men, if a woman, if a man lay down,
Speaker 1: he tired, you don't for them are day and all?
Speaker 1: You don't want me this and that? Why you ain't
Speaker 1: trying to touch me because you don't, I don't. You
Speaker 1: don't argue so much. I'm I'm not in the space.
Speaker 1: Do you even want to have you? You gotta do
Speaker 1: on the relationship so we could get to the pleasure
Speaker 1: that with the peak of pleasure that we're supposed to have.
Speaker 1: And with that said, we come to an end of
Speaker 1: another dope episode. Shout out to Devlon Carter side collections. Uh,
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