1 00:00:03,600 --> 00:00:05,720 Speaker 1: H I get everybody on Dan Horde and thanks for 2 00:00:05,800 --> 00:00:12,440 Speaker 1: downloading The Bengals Booth Podcast. The Around my Hometown addition, 3 00:00:12,680 --> 00:00:17,079 Speaker 1: as the Cincinnati Kid, Sam Hubbard joins me to discuss retirement, 4 00:00:17,280 --> 00:00:21,880 Speaker 1: life after football, and spending his entire NFL career in Cincinnati. 5 00:00:22,400 --> 00:00:25,200 Speaker 1: Then it's five questions with one of the guys in 6 00:00:25,280 --> 00:00:28,840 Speaker 1: line to succeed Sam, first round draft pick Shamar Stewart, 7 00:00:29,160 --> 00:00:33,360 Speaker 1: followed by five observations at this stage of the off season. 8 00:00:33,840 --> 00:00:36,640 Speaker 1: The Bengals Booth Podcast is brought to you by pay Corps, 9 00:00:36,680 --> 00:00:40,360 Speaker 1: proud to be the Bengals official HR software provider, by 10 00:00:40,440 --> 00:00:44,479 Speaker 1: Alta Fiber future proof fiber Internet designed to elevate your home, business, 11 00:00:44,560 --> 00:00:47,800 Speaker 1: and community to a new level, and by Kettering Health 12 00:00:48,120 --> 00:00:50,680 Speaker 1: the best care for the best fans. Kettering Health is 13 00:00:50,720 --> 00:00:54,400 Speaker 1: the official healthcare provider of the Bengals. Now here's a 14 00:00:54,440 --> 00:00:57,080 Speaker 1: quick reminder that you can have the latest edition of 15 00:00:57,120 --> 00:01:00,560 Speaker 1: this podcast delivered right to your phone, tablet, or computer 16 00:01:00,920 --> 00:01:05,200 Speaker 1: by subscribing wherever you get your podcasts. It's the greatest 17 00:01:05,200 --> 00:01:09,960 Speaker 1: thing since Fifth third Day. Since nineteen ninety one, Fifth 18 00:01:09,959 --> 00:01:13,839 Speaker 1: Third Bank has celebrated Fifth Third Day. It's normally May 19 00:01:13,959 --> 00:01:17,000 Speaker 1: third or five to three on the calendar, unless that 20 00:01:17,160 --> 00:01:20,039 Speaker 1: date happens to fall on a weekend. But it's not 21 00:01:20,160 --> 00:01:22,399 Speaker 1: a day for the bank to serve cake or give 22 00:01:22,440 --> 00:01:26,080 Speaker 1: employees the afternoon off. Fifth third Day kicks off a 23 00:01:26,200 --> 00:01:29,959 Speaker 1: month of volunteering with a focus on feeding the hungry, 24 00:01:30,280 --> 00:01:33,399 Speaker 1: and this year, on fifth third Day, the Bank made 25 00:01:33,400 --> 00:01:38,000 Speaker 1: a fifty thousand dollars donation to the Sam Hubbard Foundation's 26 00:01:38,360 --> 00:01:43,080 Speaker 1: Hubbard's Cupboard program that provides local schools with essential supplies, 27 00:01:43,400 --> 00:01:48,960 Speaker 1: hygiene products, and nutritious snacks. Following Fifth Third's check presentation 28 00:01:49,160 --> 00:01:52,280 Speaker 1: last week, I caught up with Sam for his first 29 00:01:52,320 --> 00:01:59,320 Speaker 1: extensive interview since announcing his retirement. Following retirement, You've got 30 00:01:59,320 --> 00:02:01,840 Speaker 1: this event going on today, You've got your fowling tournament 31 00:02:01,920 --> 00:02:04,280 Speaker 1: coming up, You're doing your football camp. It sounds like 32 00:02:04,320 --> 00:02:08,440 Speaker 1: your charitable efforts will be going forward full force after 33 00:02:08,440 --> 00:02:09,280 Speaker 1: your football career. 34 00:02:09,720 --> 00:02:13,000 Speaker 2: Yeah, you know, I announced my retirement in March. I 35 00:02:13,080 --> 00:02:17,040 Speaker 2: was so thankful for the reception I received. 36 00:02:16,600 --> 00:02:19,040 Speaker 3: All the love. It was very mutual. 37 00:02:19,120 --> 00:02:20,920 Speaker 2: You know, I have so much love for this team, 38 00:02:21,000 --> 00:02:23,880 Speaker 2: this city and everything that it means. But I you know, 39 00:02:23,960 --> 00:02:26,880 Speaker 2: first things first, I focused on getting married, But now 40 00:02:26,919 --> 00:02:29,040 Speaker 2: I'm back in town, and like you said, we're hitting 41 00:02:29,040 --> 00:02:31,520 Speaker 2: the ground running. Got a lot of exciting things in 42 00:02:31,560 --> 00:02:35,200 Speaker 2: the works, and now that I'm retired, I'm kind of 43 00:02:35,240 --> 00:02:37,920 Speaker 2: surprised that I've gotten ten times busier. 44 00:02:37,960 --> 00:02:39,799 Speaker 3: But it's a great thing. 45 00:02:39,840 --> 00:02:42,320 Speaker 2: I'm very thankful for it and thankful for all the 46 00:02:42,320 --> 00:02:44,560 Speaker 2: support from great partners like Fifth Third. 47 00:02:44,919 --> 00:02:47,320 Speaker 1: I wasn't aware of your dad's connection to Third. A 48 00:02:47,400 --> 00:02:49,680 Speaker 1: fifty thousand dollars gift is pretty telling. 49 00:02:50,080 --> 00:02:52,560 Speaker 3: Yeah, definitely. You know, you worked here for twenty three years. 50 00:02:52,560 --> 00:02:55,440 Speaker 2: They've supported us for Fifth Third has supported my foundation 51 00:02:55,560 --> 00:02:57,640 Speaker 2: for the last three years. But a gift like this 52 00:02:57,880 --> 00:03:01,880 Speaker 2: is a total game changer. Going directly to make sure 53 00:03:01,919 --> 00:03:05,400 Speaker 2: that our cupboards will be stocked, will be in thirty 54 00:03:05,400 --> 00:03:09,239 Speaker 2: two schools next year, but this goes directly to purchasing 55 00:03:09,280 --> 00:03:12,679 Speaker 2: the items that are on the shelves, hygiene items, school supplies, 56 00:03:12,680 --> 00:03:16,920 Speaker 2: healthy snacks, and our focuses on providing these resources for 57 00:03:17,000 --> 00:03:20,640 Speaker 2: confidence for children, to impact them and allow them to 58 00:03:20,639 --> 00:03:23,120 Speaker 2: have a springboard and someone that believes in them to 59 00:03:23,639 --> 00:03:24,440 Speaker 2: better their future. 60 00:03:25,560 --> 00:03:27,960 Speaker 1: There are a lot of former Bengals in this area, 61 00:03:28,600 --> 00:03:31,640 Speaker 1: particularly dating back to the first two Super Bowl teams 62 00:03:31,639 --> 00:03:35,440 Speaker 1: that have been very generous with their charitable efforts. Anthony Munoz, 63 00:03:35,600 --> 00:03:38,800 Speaker 1: Dave lap On, David Fulcher, the list goes on and on, 64 00:03:39,760 --> 00:03:42,760 Speaker 1: but it was almost like there's been a gap to 65 00:03:42,880 --> 00:03:45,520 Speaker 1: a current generation. Have you given any thought to kind 66 00:03:45,560 --> 00:03:48,400 Speaker 1: of being the next wave of former Bengals that can 67 00:03:49,120 --> 00:03:52,880 Speaker 1: use your platform to help You know, all. 68 00:03:52,760 --> 00:03:55,120 Speaker 2: I've looked at from those guys is, you know, the 69 00:03:55,120 --> 00:03:57,320 Speaker 2: guys that have done it right, Like you said, Munho's 70 00:03:57,360 --> 00:04:00,240 Speaker 2: Ken Anderson. They've just been such great examples for me 71 00:04:00,800 --> 00:04:03,360 Speaker 2: on how to further their legacy to continue to make 72 00:04:03,400 --> 00:04:06,560 Speaker 2: an impact after their playing days. And I really admire 73 00:04:06,600 --> 00:04:09,720 Speaker 2: those guys and want to be like them, So you know, 74 00:04:10,520 --> 00:04:12,960 Speaker 2: I hope to do the same to future generations and 75 00:04:13,440 --> 00:04:15,440 Speaker 2: that cycle can provide a lot of good And that's 76 00:04:15,520 --> 00:04:17,920 Speaker 2: kind of how I view it. As these young guys 77 00:04:17,960 --> 00:04:20,800 Speaker 2: come into the league, if they ever need advice or 78 00:04:20,920 --> 00:04:24,080 Speaker 2: opportunities to get involved in the community, my line's always 79 00:04:24,080 --> 00:04:27,000 Speaker 2: open and I'm gonna mentor them in the same way. 80 00:04:27,680 --> 00:04:29,760 Speaker 1: For the first time I've seen you, since you're retired, 81 00:04:29,839 --> 00:04:32,039 Speaker 1: I'm sure you could have kept playing. Why was this 82 00:04:32,120 --> 00:04:32,760 Speaker 1: the right time? 83 00:04:33,680 --> 00:04:37,440 Speaker 2: You know, I had a great career, I had a 84 00:04:37,480 --> 00:04:41,039 Speaker 2: great run I took a lot of snaps, a lot 85 00:04:41,080 --> 00:04:44,200 Speaker 2: of wear and tear in my body, and I felt 86 00:04:44,200 --> 00:04:48,680 Speaker 2: like I had done enough to where I'm transitioning into 87 00:04:48,839 --> 00:04:51,120 Speaker 2: the next phase of my life and I'm excited about it. 88 00:04:51,160 --> 00:04:54,240 Speaker 2: So I felt like it was my time to move 89 00:04:54,279 --> 00:04:57,560 Speaker 2: on and didn't want to hold onto a good thing 90 00:04:57,640 --> 00:05:00,600 Speaker 2: for too long, and I was excited about my prospects 91 00:05:00,640 --> 00:05:02,760 Speaker 2: after So I made the decision kind of early in 92 00:05:02,760 --> 00:05:06,200 Speaker 2: the season and kept it to myself, but have been 93 00:05:06,240 --> 00:05:09,560 Speaker 2: planning for this day to expand my impact on the 94 00:05:09,560 --> 00:05:13,920 Speaker 2: Foundation and other opportunities throughout, and it's just gone picture 95 00:05:13,960 --> 00:05:16,960 Speaker 2: perfect and I'm just getting started. So it's been the 96 00:05:17,040 --> 00:05:20,039 Speaker 2: right decision for me personally. But I'll miss my time 97 00:05:20,080 --> 00:05:23,159 Speaker 2: with the Bengals, although I'll be watching closely than probably 98 00:05:23,160 --> 00:05:27,400 Speaker 2: anyone else this upcoming season. Just still friends with the guys, 99 00:05:27,440 --> 00:05:30,039 Speaker 2: still still in touch with them all and happy to 100 00:05:30,040 --> 00:05:31,920 Speaker 2: see them have their success coming up. 101 00:05:32,040 --> 00:05:33,560 Speaker 3: And it's been it's been great. 102 00:05:34,360 --> 00:05:37,960 Speaker 1: What will you miss most and what will you miss least? 103 00:05:38,880 --> 00:05:44,040 Speaker 2: I'll probably miss the connections and the everyday conversations that 104 00:05:44,120 --> 00:05:46,360 Speaker 2: you have in the locker room, you know, messing with 105 00:05:46,400 --> 00:05:49,720 Speaker 2: each other, just you know, the banter in the locker room. 106 00:05:50,080 --> 00:05:53,640 Speaker 2: Those those memories are you know, they can pick you 107 00:05:53,720 --> 00:05:55,280 Speaker 2: up when you're you're down after. 108 00:05:55,080 --> 00:05:57,480 Speaker 3: The worst loss. So they're very special. 109 00:05:57,680 --> 00:06:01,560 Speaker 2: And I'll miss least probably the the ban being banged 110 00:06:01,640 --> 00:06:04,640 Speaker 2: up on Monday after game day, injuries and such, but 111 00:06:04,680 --> 00:06:05,559 Speaker 2: that's part of the game. 112 00:06:06,120 --> 00:06:08,480 Speaker 1: How meaningful is it to you to have spent your 113 00:06:08,640 --> 00:06:10,080 Speaker 1: entire career with the Bengals. 114 00:06:10,440 --> 00:06:13,520 Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean that's so meaningful. It means everything to me. 115 00:06:13,640 --> 00:06:16,600 Speaker 2: Partially why I decided to not try and play anywhere else. 116 00:06:17,240 --> 00:06:20,599 Speaker 2: I wanted to be a Bengal for life, being raised here, 117 00:06:20,800 --> 00:06:24,080 Speaker 2: drafted here, built my whole legacy here. I didn't want 118 00:06:24,120 --> 00:06:26,920 Speaker 2: to go to another team and kind of retract from 119 00:06:26,960 --> 00:06:28,880 Speaker 2: that and start from the ground up. 120 00:06:28,920 --> 00:06:32,080 Speaker 3: But that's, you know, a huge factor in my decision. 121 00:06:32,720 --> 00:06:34,720 Speaker 1: You were a mentor to some guys who'll be looking 122 00:06:34,720 --> 00:06:37,440 Speaker 1: to fill your shoes now, Joseph Osai and Miles Murphy, 123 00:06:37,480 --> 00:06:40,880 Speaker 1: cam Sample and others. What are your hopes for them 124 00:06:40,920 --> 00:06:45,680 Speaker 1: going forward as they try to fill that spot opposite Trey. 125 00:06:46,160 --> 00:06:49,599 Speaker 2: Yeah, they're ready for That's something I'm very confident about. 126 00:06:50,800 --> 00:06:54,440 Speaker 2: Just great people, great guys. They're ready, not only physically and. 127 00:06:54,360 --> 00:06:55,000 Speaker 3: As a player. 128 00:06:55,040 --> 00:06:58,359 Speaker 2: But they're ready, as you know, they've grown up in 129 00:06:58,400 --> 00:07:00,760 Speaker 2: front of my eyes. They're ready to be leaders, ready 130 00:07:00,800 --> 00:07:03,160 Speaker 2: to bring the other guys and young guys around them 131 00:07:03,240 --> 00:07:06,120 Speaker 2: up to speed. And I'm sure they're excited about I 132 00:07:06,160 --> 00:07:08,400 Speaker 2: know they're excited about the opportunity. I've talked to them 133 00:07:08,440 --> 00:07:11,960 Speaker 2: all and yeah, I have utmost confidence. And I also 134 00:07:12,160 --> 00:07:16,040 Speaker 2: like the new pieces we've added. Talked to Zach, congratulate 135 00:07:16,120 --> 00:07:19,280 Speaker 2: them on the draft and think that they're in a good, 136 00:07:19,440 --> 00:07:19,960 Speaker 2: good spot. 137 00:07:21,000 --> 00:07:23,400 Speaker 1: You came within ninety seconds of winning a Super Bowl. 138 00:07:23,720 --> 00:07:25,960 Speaker 1: You're part of a team that ended the playoff drought. 139 00:07:26,160 --> 00:07:29,880 Speaker 1: You had arguably the most famous play in franchise history. 140 00:07:30,320 --> 00:07:35,760 Speaker 1: Did you accomplish just about everything you set out to accomplish. 141 00:07:35,160 --> 00:07:38,720 Speaker 2: After I cut the touchdown from Joe, Yes, one hundred percent. 142 00:07:39,120 --> 00:07:41,840 Speaker 2: But now I realistically I never could have when I 143 00:07:41,840 --> 00:07:45,040 Speaker 2: got drafted. Picture that you know that those would be 144 00:07:45,080 --> 00:07:47,040 Speaker 2: part of my resume, but the fact that they are 145 00:07:47,200 --> 00:07:50,160 Speaker 2: just as a testament to trust in the process and 146 00:07:51,160 --> 00:07:54,360 Speaker 2: hard work and doing right by the people around you 147 00:07:54,400 --> 00:07:56,640 Speaker 2: and always trying to you know, put your best foot 148 00:07:56,680 --> 00:07:57,360 Speaker 2: forward and. 149 00:07:57,320 --> 00:07:59,440 Speaker 3: You'll find yourself in positions you never dreamed of. 150 00:07:59,560 --> 00:08:01,880 Speaker 2: So it's it's been a it's been a great story 151 00:08:02,320 --> 00:08:03,080 Speaker 2: still being written. 152 00:08:03,640 --> 00:08:06,080 Speaker 1: That final play is pretty amazing. I mean Ted Williams 153 00:08:06,160 --> 00:08:08,000 Speaker 1: ended his baseball career with a home run and his 154 00:08:08,040 --> 00:08:11,200 Speaker 1: final at bat and a defensive end, ended his NFL 155 00:08:11,280 --> 00:08:13,400 Speaker 1: career with a touchdown catch on his final snap. 156 00:08:13,640 --> 00:08:17,800 Speaker 2: Yeah, can't draw it up any better. That's a storybook. 157 00:08:17,920 --> 00:08:20,840 Speaker 2: So I didn't want to. I didn't want to get 158 00:08:20,880 --> 00:08:23,160 Speaker 2: greedy and try and go create something better. 159 00:08:23,200 --> 00:08:24,520 Speaker 3: That's almost too good to be true. 160 00:08:25,080 --> 00:08:27,920 Speaker 1: Last thing, Sam, you've been on kind of a hamster 161 00:08:28,000 --> 00:08:31,360 Speaker 1: wheel of football training for the last decade, at least 162 00:08:31,640 --> 00:08:34,480 Speaker 1: between Ohio State and the Bengals. What are you looking 163 00:08:34,520 --> 00:08:37,640 Speaker 1: forward to doing now that you could never do over 164 00:08:37,679 --> 00:08:38,800 Speaker 1: that time period. 165 00:08:39,720 --> 00:08:40,640 Speaker 3: Oh, that's a tough one. 166 00:08:40,640 --> 00:08:42,439 Speaker 2: I've been doing a lot of things, a lot of 167 00:08:42,720 --> 00:08:44,680 Speaker 2: a lot of more time on my hands. First thing 168 00:08:44,760 --> 00:08:48,280 Speaker 2: I was very focused on was getting married in my wedding, 169 00:08:48,320 --> 00:08:52,480 Speaker 2: which was an incredible experience that I'm very thankful for. 170 00:08:53,040 --> 00:08:56,960 Speaker 2: But uh, you know, I I would never think that 171 00:08:57,000 --> 00:08:59,240 Speaker 2: I would go to a tailgate or a Bengals game, 172 00:08:59,360 --> 00:09:01,400 Speaker 2: or or I have a watch party and watch the 173 00:09:01,440 --> 00:09:04,679 Speaker 2: games on TV here, you know, just see the game 174 00:09:04,720 --> 00:09:05,600 Speaker 2: from that side. 175 00:09:05,920 --> 00:09:07,040 Speaker 3: I've been playing. 176 00:09:06,679 --> 00:09:09,640 Speaker 2: Since I was in third grade, so to be a spectator, 177 00:09:09,679 --> 00:09:14,160 Speaker 2: it's a whole different ballgame. I'm sure I'll have my 178 00:09:14,280 --> 00:09:17,200 Speaker 2: opinions and just like anybody else that's not on the field, 179 00:09:17,240 --> 00:09:19,720 Speaker 2: but it's a transition. 180 00:09:19,760 --> 00:09:20,200 Speaker 3: It's fun. 181 00:09:20,880 --> 00:09:23,440 Speaker 1: There you go, Bengals fans, Sam Hubbard could be coming 182 00:09:23,480 --> 00:09:27,840 Speaker 1: to your tailgate. It's a possibility. Congratulations on a great career. 183 00:09:27,880 --> 00:09:29,520 Speaker 1: Thanks for all you're doing in the community, and we 184 00:09:29,559 --> 00:09:31,240 Speaker 1: look forward to touching base in the years to come. 185 00:09:31,760 --> 00:09:33,960 Speaker 3: Yeah, me too. You're my guy, Dan. We'll talk soon. 186 00:09:35,280 --> 00:09:37,560 Speaker 1: If you would like to learn more about Sam's charitable 187 00:09:37,559 --> 00:09:40,280 Speaker 1: efforts or find out how you can help, go to 188 00:09:40,440 --> 00:09:44,880 Speaker 1: Sam Hubbard Foundation dot com. I did something last year 189 00:09:44,880 --> 00:09:47,679 Speaker 1: on this podcast that people seem to enjoy, so I'm 190 00:09:47,679 --> 00:09:51,480 Speaker 1: bringing it back. It's called Five Questions. As we begin 191 00:09:51,600 --> 00:09:54,520 Speaker 1: getting to know the Bengals rookies by asking them five 192 00:09:54,640 --> 00:09:59,160 Speaker 1: questions that they don't hear over and over again. Up first, 193 00:09:59,559 --> 00:10:02,920 Speaker 1: first on draft pick Shamar Stewart, the twenty one year 194 00:10:02,960 --> 00:10:06,040 Speaker 1: old from Miami who spent the last three years at 195 00:10:06,080 --> 00:10:09,840 Speaker 1: Texas A and M time for five Questions. With the 196 00:10:09,920 --> 00:10:13,200 Speaker 1: seventeenth overall pick in the twenty twenty five NFL Draft 197 00:10:13,440 --> 00:10:17,320 Speaker 1: Bengals defensive end Shamar Stewart. So I read that your 198 00:10:17,400 --> 00:10:21,160 Speaker 1: nickname at Texas A and M was the Menace. Is 199 00:10:21,200 --> 00:10:23,200 Speaker 1: that true? And who gave you that nickname? 200 00:10:23,720 --> 00:10:25,600 Speaker 4: I forgot who exactly gave it to me, But I 201 00:10:25,640 --> 00:10:28,160 Speaker 4: got it back in high school, going every day trying 202 00:10:28,160 --> 00:10:30,199 Speaker 4: to get better. So of course I'm a practice hard, 203 00:10:30,400 --> 00:10:33,960 Speaker 4: you know, micking hard for our office, you know, playing 204 00:10:34,000 --> 00:10:36,400 Speaker 4: hard in prize, going to make our office better, and 205 00:10:36,440 --> 00:10:38,800 Speaker 4: on in the games. You know, I'm just all over 206 00:10:38,840 --> 00:10:41,720 Speaker 4: the field and I'm just a little menace on the field. 207 00:10:42,559 --> 00:10:45,480 Speaker 1: What does the word menace represent to you? 208 00:10:46,480 --> 00:10:51,280 Speaker 4: Somebody always be instructive, So I feel like that that 209 00:10:51,320 --> 00:10:52,360 Speaker 4: defines me very well. 210 00:10:52,840 --> 00:10:55,520 Speaker 1: So I broadcast the Bengals games on the radio. When 211 00:10:55,559 --> 00:10:58,480 Speaker 1: you have a sack, would you like me? And my 212 00:10:58,559 --> 00:11:00,560 Speaker 1: broadcast partner, Dave app I'm. 213 00:11:00,440 --> 00:11:03,400 Speaker 3: To say, a sack by the menace, I would love that. 214 00:11:04,480 --> 00:11:06,439 Speaker 3: I will love that, all right. 215 00:11:06,480 --> 00:11:08,920 Speaker 1: Well, hopefully there will be a bunch this year. Question 216 00:11:09,040 --> 00:11:12,400 Speaker 1: number two. You have been compared to a Texas A 217 00:11:12,440 --> 00:11:16,959 Speaker 1: and M legend Miles Garrett for obvious reasons, your similar size, 218 00:11:17,000 --> 00:11:20,160 Speaker 1: similar athletic ability. What do you think of Miles Garrett, 219 00:11:20,160 --> 00:11:21,280 Speaker 1: What do you think of the comparison? 220 00:11:21,520 --> 00:11:23,880 Speaker 4: Man, He's a great player, and I feel like that's 221 00:11:23,920 --> 00:11:26,640 Speaker 4: a blessing because the way he's doing it right now, 222 00:11:26,679 --> 00:11:29,400 Speaker 4: he's coming the game, and I feel like that's a 223 00:11:29,720 --> 00:11:33,040 Speaker 4: very great, great comparison. I feel like we look we 224 00:11:33,160 --> 00:11:35,640 Speaker 4: match up body wise. I'm not I'm trying to match 225 00:11:35,679 --> 00:11:36,480 Speaker 4: someone play wise. 226 00:11:37,960 --> 00:11:40,360 Speaker 1: Was it a goal of yours to top the numbers 227 00:11:40,360 --> 00:11:42,119 Speaker 1: that he posted at his combine? 228 00:11:42,600 --> 00:11:43,240 Speaker 3: Kind of? Sort of? 229 00:11:43,679 --> 00:11:46,080 Speaker 4: You know, I feel like if I could get what 230 00:11:46,160 --> 00:11:47,800 Speaker 4: he got, people will look at me a different light. 231 00:11:48,200 --> 00:11:51,439 Speaker 4: So I tried my hardest. He got me in some areas, 232 00:11:51,440 --> 00:11:52,760 Speaker 4: and I got him in some areas too. 233 00:11:53,240 --> 00:11:54,920 Speaker 1: You got him in the forty, you got him in 234 00:11:54,960 --> 00:11:56,839 Speaker 1: the broad jump. He got you by one inch in 235 00:11:56,880 --> 00:11:58,280 Speaker 1: the vertical. That's pretty impressive. 236 00:11:58,280 --> 00:12:00,800 Speaker 4: That's crazy because I felt like I jump jumped out 237 00:12:00,880 --> 00:12:03,960 Speaker 4: my spine. It's crazy. 238 00:12:04,280 --> 00:12:06,800 Speaker 1: All right, we're visiting with Jamar Stewart. Let's get back 239 00:12:06,840 --> 00:12:11,520 Speaker 1: to athletic testing. Those numbers were freakish that you posted 240 00:12:11,520 --> 00:12:15,360 Speaker 1: in Indianapolis. What do you consider to be your greatest 241 00:12:15,440 --> 00:12:20,800 Speaker 1: athletic achievement? Did you dunk at a really early age? Yeah, 242 00:12:20,840 --> 00:12:22,160 Speaker 1: what what stands out to you? 243 00:12:22,679 --> 00:12:22,800 Speaker 5: Uh? 244 00:12:23,160 --> 00:12:23,600 Speaker 2: I dunk. 245 00:12:23,960 --> 00:12:26,640 Speaker 4: I got my first dunk in sixth grade. 246 00:12:26,679 --> 00:12:31,600 Speaker 1: Sixth grade, yeah, five nine. 247 00:12:30,400 --> 00:12:33,559 Speaker 4: Yeah, I was booming that balls is grade. 248 00:12:34,520 --> 00:12:35,280 Speaker 3: That's amazing. 249 00:12:36,000 --> 00:12:39,440 Speaker 1: You wore a beautiful green suit to Green Bay for 250 00:12:39,520 --> 00:12:43,720 Speaker 1: the NFL Draft. You also had an eye catching necklace on. 251 00:12:44,040 --> 00:12:46,920 Speaker 1: You are wearing it right now. Give me the history 252 00:12:46,960 --> 00:12:47,720 Speaker 1: of that necklace. 253 00:12:48,160 --> 00:12:51,120 Speaker 4: Uh So this necklace, my dad made this logo for 254 00:12:51,200 --> 00:12:54,760 Speaker 4: me back in high school, and I thought, like, why 255 00:12:54,800 --> 00:12:57,080 Speaker 4: not make it to a chain? No for a big moment, 256 00:12:57,480 --> 00:13:01,959 Speaker 4: and she central, c's like a England a rapper from England. 257 00:13:02,160 --> 00:13:05,160 Speaker 4: He had a reversible chain, so took inspiration from that 258 00:13:05,240 --> 00:13:06,280 Speaker 4: and made it reversible. 259 00:13:07,040 --> 00:13:09,080 Speaker 1: And what exactly is the image? 260 00:13:09,559 --> 00:13:12,680 Speaker 4: It's a gorilla in his eyebrows. It's two s's social 261 00:13:12,720 --> 00:13:13,640 Speaker 4: mar Stewart. 262 00:13:13,760 --> 00:13:17,040 Speaker 1: All right, your dad's got some talent. Fifth and final question. 263 00:13:17,720 --> 00:13:20,880 Speaker 1: On draft night, you did a phone call with reporters 264 00:13:20,880 --> 00:13:25,480 Speaker 1: afterward and you didn't specifically remember meeting with the Bengals 265 00:13:25,480 --> 00:13:28,640 Speaker 1: at the combine. And I get it. It's speed dating. 266 00:13:28,679 --> 00:13:30,960 Speaker 1: You're going from team to team to team. It's like, 267 00:13:31,280 --> 00:13:33,880 Speaker 1: you know, fifteen minute meetings with all of these teams. 268 00:13:34,400 --> 00:13:37,400 Speaker 1: When you came into Cincinnati and you saw Zach Taylor, 269 00:13:37,760 --> 00:13:40,640 Speaker 1: and you saw El Golden and you saw Jerry Montgomery. 270 00:13:40,679 --> 00:13:42,320 Speaker 1: Did it click back in? Did you remember? 271 00:13:42,440 --> 00:13:42,840 Speaker 6: Oh? 272 00:13:42,920 --> 00:13:44,079 Speaker 1: Yeah, those guys. 273 00:13:44,360 --> 00:13:48,120 Speaker 4: Yeah, it's kind of hard, like you gotta remember. I 274 00:13:48,160 --> 00:13:51,440 Speaker 4: had twenty two formos, a couple infemos, and then I 275 00:13:51,440 --> 00:13:56,000 Speaker 4: had fifteen thirty visits. So my mind is just all 276 00:13:56,040 --> 00:13:57,600 Speaker 4: over the place. I'm ready for it to be over. 277 00:13:57,800 --> 00:14:01,240 Speaker 4: I'm ready to be in one place. So when I 278 00:14:01,280 --> 00:14:04,160 Speaker 4: seeing him like, okay, I'm deafmember medio. 279 00:14:05,120 --> 00:14:07,760 Speaker 1: The important thing is that they remembered you really well. 280 00:14:08,960 --> 00:14:12,080 Speaker 3: Thank god they remembered me. Damn my memory. I'll barbayd 281 00:14:12,080 --> 00:14:13,040 Speaker 3: be cooked right now. 282 00:14:14,440 --> 00:14:16,800 Speaker 1: This has been fun and I can't wait. Can't wait 283 00:14:16,840 --> 00:14:19,120 Speaker 1: to tell people that you dunk for the first time 284 00:14:19,400 --> 00:14:21,200 Speaker 1: in sixth grade at five nine. 285 00:14:21,440 --> 00:14:24,800 Speaker 3: Yeah, true story, true story. 286 00:14:24,880 --> 00:14:27,600 Speaker 4: I promise you, no lies, no rap gap. 287 00:14:28,040 --> 00:14:31,320 Speaker 1: Great to have you in Cincinnati, Welcome, Thank you. A 288 00:14:31,360 --> 00:14:33,760 Speaker 1: lot has been made about the fact that Stuart only 289 00:14:33,800 --> 00:14:37,800 Speaker 1: had four and a half sacks in thirty seven college games. Well, 290 00:14:37,840 --> 00:14:41,080 Speaker 1: somebody pointed out recently that five time pro bowler daneil 291 00:14:41,200 --> 00:14:44,040 Speaker 1: Hunter also had four and a half sacks in his 292 00:14:44,080 --> 00:14:48,040 Speaker 1: college career, and he played in thirty eight games at LSU. 293 00:14:48,240 --> 00:14:52,040 Speaker 1: In nine NFL seasons, Hunter has ninety nine and a 294 00:14:52,080 --> 00:14:56,320 Speaker 1: half sacks, including six seasons with ten or more. If 295 00:14:56,320 --> 00:14:59,560 Speaker 1: Shamar Stewart comes anywhere close to that, he'll be one 296 00:14:59,560 --> 00:15:03,120 Speaker 1: of the best picks in this year's draft. Up Next, 297 00:15:03,400 --> 00:15:07,160 Speaker 1: we go from five questions to five observations. But first, 298 00:15:07,400 --> 00:15:10,200 Speaker 1: here's a quick reminder that the Bengals Booth podcast is 299 00:15:10,240 --> 00:15:12,080 Speaker 1: brought to you by pay Core, proud to be the 300 00:15:12,120 --> 00:15:17,160 Speaker 1: Bengals official HR software provider, by Alta Fiber future proof 301 00:15:17,200 --> 00:15:20,680 Speaker 1: fiber Internet designed to elevate your home, business, and community to 302 00:15:20,760 --> 00:15:24,120 Speaker 1: a new level, and by Kettering Health the best care 303 00:15:24,200 --> 00:15:27,000 Speaker 1: for the best fans. Kettering Health is the official healthcare 304 00:15:27,040 --> 00:15:31,880 Speaker 1: provider of the Bengals. Now time for five observations at 305 00:15:31,880 --> 00:15:35,560 Speaker 1: this stage of the Bengals off season program. Topic number 306 00:15:35,640 --> 00:15:40,600 Speaker 1: one the status of Trey Hendrickson the athletics. Senior NFL 307 00:15:40,800 --> 00:15:45,120 Speaker 1: insider Diana Russini made Bengals fans hopeful last week because 308 00:15:45,120 --> 00:15:48,880 Speaker 1: of something she said on the Scoop City podcast that 309 00:15:48,960 --> 00:15:53,240 Speaker 1: she co hosts with former NFL quarterback Chase Daniel. Here's 310 00:15:53,280 --> 00:15:55,720 Speaker 1: what Diana had to say, about Trey. 311 00:15:57,640 --> 00:15:58,120 Speaker 3: How about the. 312 00:15:58,160 --> 00:16:03,320 Speaker 6: Trey Hendrickson situation in Cincinnati. We saw what they did 313 00:16:03,360 --> 00:16:05,200 Speaker 6: in the draft, right, so most people I think we're 314 00:16:05,280 --> 00:16:10,160 Speaker 6: looking at them drafting Shamar Stewart as this is the 315 00:16:10,280 --> 00:16:14,880 Speaker 6: end of the Trey Hendrickson error in Cincinnati. And Zach 316 00:16:14,920 --> 00:16:17,800 Speaker 6: Taylor came out and was like essentially shooting that down 317 00:16:18,160 --> 00:16:22,400 Speaker 6: of like, this doesn't mean anything. This just we are 318 00:16:22,480 --> 00:16:25,960 Speaker 6: supplying the needs that we have on this roster. So 319 00:16:26,000 --> 00:16:29,080 Speaker 6: I did a little digging on it, and I'm still 320 00:16:29,120 --> 00:16:31,760 Speaker 6: getting really good vibes coming out of Sincy that they're 321 00:16:31,760 --> 00:16:33,200 Speaker 6: going to try to get a deal done with Trey. 322 00:16:33,760 --> 00:16:35,840 Speaker 1: How there's the money growing trees over there. 323 00:16:36,880 --> 00:16:40,400 Speaker 6: They seem to be trying to move money and get 324 00:16:40,440 --> 00:16:43,479 Speaker 6: creative with finding ways to get Tray the money. 325 00:16:43,760 --> 00:16:46,040 Speaker 1: To take a hometown discount. 326 00:16:46,480 --> 00:16:48,160 Speaker 6: How can you look at this and think he's not 327 00:16:48,280 --> 00:16:51,120 Speaker 6: going to And I'm sure his side if they heard 328 00:16:51,120 --> 00:16:53,480 Speaker 6: this right now, they tell me to shut up, we're 329 00:16:53,800 --> 00:16:58,280 Speaker 6: taking a hometown discount. Yeah, but I think he wants 330 00:16:58,320 --> 00:17:01,560 Speaker 6: to be there. They want him there once again. 331 00:17:01,600 --> 00:17:05,920 Speaker 1: That was courtesy of the Athletics Scoop City podcast. All right, 332 00:17:06,240 --> 00:17:09,160 Speaker 1: I think the last part was one hundred percent accurate. 333 00:17:09,520 --> 00:17:12,400 Speaker 1: The Bengals want to keep Trey for this year and beyond, 334 00:17:12,880 --> 00:17:15,600 Speaker 1: and I do believe that it's his preference to stay. 335 00:17:16,440 --> 00:17:20,000 Speaker 1: Unlike Diana, I can't say that I've been getting particularly 336 00:17:20,040 --> 00:17:23,600 Speaker 1: good or bad vibes lately, but I do think it's 337 00:17:23,680 --> 00:17:27,120 Speaker 1: more likely than not that Trey is a Bengal this season. 338 00:17:27,600 --> 00:17:29,880 Speaker 1: Keep in mind, he's under contract for one more year, 339 00:17:30,200 --> 00:17:32,000 Speaker 1: and at the end of it, Trey will have made 340 00:17:32,080 --> 00:17:35,639 Speaker 1: more than eighty four million dollars he set for life. 341 00:17:36,200 --> 00:17:39,120 Speaker 1: But the NFL sack leader has obviously earned another big 342 00:17:39,200 --> 00:17:42,320 Speaker 1: pay day, and here's hoping the two sides can agree 343 00:17:42,400 --> 00:17:46,840 Speaker 1: on a number that keeps Trey terrorizing quarterbacks in a 344 00:17:46,840 --> 00:17:52,359 Speaker 1: Bengals uniform. Topic two the Golden Age. Al Golden was 345 00:17:52,359 --> 00:17:56,040 Speaker 1: brought back to Cincinnati's defensive coordinator for two reasons. One 346 00:17:56,200 --> 00:17:59,439 Speaker 1: to improve a unit that finished seventh from the bottom 347 00:17:59,480 --> 00:18:02,560 Speaker 1: in points loud last year, and two to do what 348 00:18:02,600 --> 00:18:06,000 Speaker 1: he did so well at Notre Dame develop young talent, 349 00:18:06,640 --> 00:18:09,280 Speaker 1: and that's what he's going to be working with in Cincinnati. 350 00:18:09,880 --> 00:18:13,119 Speaker 1: Over the last four years, the Bengals have made thirteen 351 00:18:13,280 --> 00:18:15,720 Speaker 1: picks on the first two days of the draft, so 352 00:18:15,760 --> 00:18:19,720 Speaker 1: we're talking first, second, and third round selections. Ten of 353 00:18:19,800 --> 00:18:23,879 Speaker 1: the thirteen were on defense. That's talent for All to 354 00:18:23,920 --> 00:18:27,200 Speaker 1: work with. His last season on the Bengals coaching staff 355 00:18:27,280 --> 00:18:30,280 Speaker 1: was the twenty twenty one Super Bowl squad, where he 356 00:18:30,320 --> 00:18:32,880 Speaker 1: worked closely with linebacker Logan Wilson. 357 00:18:34,440 --> 00:18:36,199 Speaker 7: I always say he's like a psycho, but like in 358 00:18:36,200 --> 00:18:38,360 Speaker 7: a good way. I mean, he's just always on top 359 00:18:38,400 --> 00:18:40,600 Speaker 7: of things, and he makes sure that things are cut 360 00:18:40,600 --> 00:18:45,360 Speaker 7: and dry. There's no gray area, everything's black and white. 361 00:18:44,600 --> 00:18:48,800 Speaker 7: And then you work the things that he preaches, like 362 00:18:48,840 --> 00:18:50,760 Speaker 7: we're talking about ball disruptions, so we're going to work 363 00:18:50,800 --> 00:18:53,880 Speaker 7: the heck out of ball disruption stuff. And so when 364 00:18:53,880 --> 00:18:56,040 Speaker 7: you get back to that stuff, like something as simple 365 00:18:56,040 --> 00:18:58,200 Speaker 7: as that, that you're constantly doing, it might get monotonous, 366 00:18:58,200 --> 00:19:01,159 Speaker 7: but you're always like when you're out there playing, then 367 00:19:01,200 --> 00:19:03,000 Speaker 7: it's not you're not even thinking about it. Like when 368 00:19:03,040 --> 00:19:05,280 Speaker 7: you're going into potentially to make a tackle, you're always 369 00:19:05,320 --> 00:19:07,520 Speaker 7: analyzing where the ball is on them, and you're able 370 00:19:07,560 --> 00:19:08,760 Speaker 7: to try to make it play on the ball and 371 00:19:08,800 --> 00:19:11,800 Speaker 7: get turnovers. And you know, the more often that we 372 00:19:11,840 --> 00:19:14,520 Speaker 7: can obviously get turnovers without how explosive our offense is 373 00:19:14,600 --> 00:19:15,760 Speaker 7: is going to help us. 374 00:19:16,359 --> 00:19:18,720 Speaker 1: I tell people when he was here previously, it always 375 00:19:18,720 --> 00:19:21,240 Speaker 1: seemed like he was on the go, like you couldn't 376 00:19:21,240 --> 00:19:23,240 Speaker 1: even interrupt him because he was racing to do the 377 00:19:23,280 --> 00:19:23,920 Speaker 1: next thing. 378 00:19:24,320 --> 00:19:26,600 Speaker 3: Walking to the next thing. Yeah, like how you doing? 379 00:19:27,080 --> 00:19:28,840 Speaker 7: He he asking you how you're doing as he's walking by, 380 00:19:29,000 --> 00:19:30,480 Speaker 7: Like did you really care what my answer was? 381 00:19:30,600 --> 00:19:30,679 Speaker 3: No? 382 00:19:31,680 --> 00:19:33,359 Speaker 7: That thing is just he's just wired like that. But 383 00:19:33,359 --> 00:19:35,399 Speaker 7: then it's funny because like how he is during the 384 00:19:35,400 --> 00:19:37,439 Speaker 7: week is like the complete opposite how he is on 385 00:19:37,480 --> 00:19:39,920 Speaker 7: game day. Like he's like just calm, cool and collected, 386 00:19:40,000 --> 00:19:43,360 Speaker 7: and I always think he's like ahead of the adjustment 387 00:19:43,400 --> 00:19:46,359 Speaker 7: before the adjustment happens on the sideline. And that's one 388 00:19:46,400 --> 00:19:49,400 Speaker 7: thing I really appreciated after he left, was like, because 389 00:19:49,440 --> 00:19:51,760 Speaker 7: he's coached offense, so he knows like what teams are 390 00:19:51,840 --> 00:19:54,600 Speaker 7: going to try to go to based on how we're 391 00:19:54,600 --> 00:19:57,040 Speaker 7: playing something, and then how we're already going to adjust 392 00:19:57,119 --> 00:19:59,560 Speaker 7: because of that. So I think playing that game within 393 00:19:59,600 --> 00:20:02,520 Speaker 7: the game has kind of helped him be successful as 394 00:20:02,520 --> 00:20:03,080 Speaker 7: a coordinator. 395 00:20:03,280 --> 00:20:05,680 Speaker 1: It also sounds like he puts in so much time 396 00:20:05,720 --> 00:20:08,000 Speaker 1: and effort during the week and what hits game day, 397 00:20:08,000 --> 00:20:10,240 Speaker 1: It's like, all right, guys, We've done the work. It's 398 00:20:10,320 --> 00:20:10,800 Speaker 1: up to you now. 399 00:20:10,800 --> 00:20:12,120 Speaker 3: It's like the saying the hayes in the barn. 400 00:20:12,160 --> 00:20:13,440 Speaker 7: I mean he puts all the hay in the barn 401 00:20:13,480 --> 00:20:15,720 Speaker 7: on the week, so that that game days are so 402 00:20:15,800 --> 00:20:18,480 Speaker 7: called easy, you know, easier for him because he's looked 403 00:20:18,520 --> 00:20:18,919 Speaker 7: at everything. 404 00:20:18,920 --> 00:20:20,160 Speaker 3: He's prepared the right way. 405 00:20:20,040 --> 00:20:22,520 Speaker 7: And I think he's I don't know, if I don't 406 00:20:22,560 --> 00:20:24,160 Speaker 7: know how much he actually sleeps. 407 00:20:23,920 --> 00:20:24,440 Speaker 3: During the week. 408 00:20:25,119 --> 00:20:26,960 Speaker 7: Sometimes it takes the game day nap, I know, because 409 00:20:26,960 --> 00:20:28,000 Speaker 7: he's probably didn't sleep. 410 00:20:27,880 --> 00:20:29,200 Speaker 3: Much during the week and he's exhausted. 411 00:20:29,240 --> 00:20:32,040 Speaker 7: But he tires himself out and he goes he goes 412 00:20:32,040 --> 00:20:33,800 Speaker 7: all in with this kind of stuff, which is which 413 00:20:33,840 --> 00:20:34,200 Speaker 7: is great. 414 00:20:34,840 --> 00:20:37,879 Speaker 1: Is the off season going to be significantly different with 415 00:20:38,000 --> 00:20:40,439 Speaker 1: him as the DC in terms of, you know, what 416 00:20:40,600 --> 00:20:45,080 Speaker 1: he's teaching during these periods in the you know, mandatory 417 00:20:45,520 --> 00:20:46,760 Speaker 1: mini camps and stuff like that. 418 00:20:46,800 --> 00:20:48,960 Speaker 7: Oh, you know, I think he'll have his own way 419 00:20:49,000 --> 00:20:51,560 Speaker 7: of going about it. You know, I think there's going 420 00:20:51,600 --> 00:20:53,880 Speaker 7: to be I think they're trying to tax this more 421 00:20:53,920 --> 00:20:56,399 Speaker 7: mentally with because everything there's a lot of new stuff 422 00:20:56,400 --> 00:21:00,400 Speaker 7: and new terminology more than anything, and so tax more 423 00:21:00,440 --> 00:21:03,600 Speaker 7: mentally during this time so that when we come back 424 00:21:03,640 --> 00:21:05,960 Speaker 7: in for training camp, like it's a lot of us 425 00:21:05,960 --> 00:21:07,840 Speaker 7: just recall, but I think that that's kind of what 426 00:21:07,880 --> 00:21:08,520 Speaker 7: it's going to look like. 427 00:21:09,920 --> 00:21:12,840 Speaker 1: Last year at Notre Dame, Golden's defense was fourth in 428 00:21:12,920 --> 00:21:17,000 Speaker 1: the country in points allowed, first in takeaways, first in 429 00:21:17,080 --> 00:21:21,560 Speaker 1: defensive pass efficiency, and tied for first in defensive touchdowns. 430 00:21:21,880 --> 00:21:25,440 Speaker 1: I expect the Bengals to be significantly improved on defense 431 00:21:25,840 --> 00:21:29,880 Speaker 1: this year. Topic three, What can Brown do for you? 432 00:21:30,520 --> 00:21:34,360 Speaker 1: I was looking at the latest fantasy football rankings. ESPN 433 00:21:34,480 --> 00:21:38,400 Speaker 1: has Chase Brown ranked nineteenth among running backs, pro Football 434 00:21:38,400 --> 00:21:42,840 Speaker 1: Focus has him fifteenth, and Yahoo Sports ranks him thirteenth. 435 00:21:43,280 --> 00:21:47,320 Speaker 1: Those numbers all seem low to me. Last year, despite 436 00:21:47,359 --> 00:21:50,240 Speaker 1: missing the final game of the season, Brown finished with 437 00:21:50,400 --> 00:21:53,800 Speaker 1: nine hundred and ninety rushing yards, three hundred and sixty 438 00:21:53,840 --> 00:21:57,560 Speaker 1: receiving yards, and scored a total of eleven touchdowns. Those 439 00:21:57,560 --> 00:22:01,320 Speaker 1: are great numbers, but they don't reflect how productive he 440 00:22:01,520 --> 00:22:05,199 Speaker 1: was after Zack Moss suffered a neck injury. In the 441 00:22:05,200 --> 00:22:09,000 Speaker 1: final eight games with Moss sidelined, Brown average roughly seventy 442 00:22:09,080 --> 00:22:12,680 Speaker 1: nine rushing yards and thirty seven receiving yards per game. 443 00:22:13,359 --> 00:22:18,120 Speaker 1: Those averages over a seventeen game season would equal one thousand, 444 00:22:18,560 --> 00:22:22,199 Speaker 1: nine hundred seventy six scrimmage yards. That would have been 445 00:22:22,280 --> 00:22:25,800 Speaker 1: third best in the NFL last year, behind Saquon Barkley 446 00:22:25,960 --> 00:22:30,520 Speaker 1: and Derrick Henry. Now I'm not predicting that, but fifteen 447 00:22:30,640 --> 00:22:35,080 Speaker 1: hundred combined rushing and receiving yards doesn't seem far fetched, 448 00:22:35,480 --> 00:22:39,159 Speaker 1: especially knowing how defenses have to focus on Jamar, Chase 449 00:22:39,440 --> 00:22:42,280 Speaker 1: and t Higgins. Here's my one on one chat with 450 00:22:42,400 --> 00:22:45,439 Speaker 1: Chase Brown, who became a dad in the off season. 451 00:22:47,080 --> 00:22:49,080 Speaker 1: What was your reaction to the team being able to 452 00:22:49,080 --> 00:22:51,040 Speaker 1: hold on to Tea and extend Jamar. 453 00:22:51,240 --> 00:22:53,720 Speaker 3: I think it's awesome. Those guys work. It's really hard 454 00:22:53,760 --> 00:22:54,520 Speaker 3: to get where they're at. 455 00:22:55,600 --> 00:22:57,840 Speaker 5: And a side of that, I mean, they're great players, 456 00:22:57,880 --> 00:23:01,679 Speaker 5: So having them back in the locker room and you know, 457 00:23:01,800 --> 00:23:05,479 Speaker 5: them being able to continue to build that relationship and 458 00:23:05,520 --> 00:23:08,400 Speaker 5: that like explosiveness with Joe is gonna. 459 00:23:08,160 --> 00:23:09,119 Speaker 3: Be a lot of fun to be around. 460 00:23:09,480 --> 00:23:12,600 Speaker 1: Plus Mike and bringing some my j back and you 461 00:23:13,040 --> 00:23:15,200 Speaker 1: it's a loaded skill position group. 462 00:23:15,240 --> 00:23:17,119 Speaker 5: No doubt, no doubt, We're gonna make a lot of plays, 463 00:23:17,119 --> 00:23:19,240 Speaker 5: and you know, we were really explosive last year, so 464 00:23:19,880 --> 00:23:22,000 Speaker 5: it's gonna be really cool to see how we upgrade 465 00:23:22,040 --> 00:23:22,400 Speaker 5: this year. 466 00:23:22,920 --> 00:23:26,879 Speaker 1: Has your focus this offseason been about becoming a better 467 00:23:27,640 --> 00:23:30,480 Speaker 1: receiver again or was that like last year's thing and 468 00:23:30,520 --> 00:23:31,800 Speaker 1: now there's something else this year. 469 00:23:31,840 --> 00:23:33,680 Speaker 5: I'm just trying to be a better football player overall. 470 00:23:34,840 --> 00:23:36,160 Speaker 5: I feel like you can't. 471 00:23:37,400 --> 00:23:37,800 Speaker 3: You can't. 472 00:23:37,800 --> 00:23:42,639 Speaker 5: I can't build up my receiver ability enough. I know 473 00:23:42,800 --> 00:23:46,560 Speaker 5: we're pass first offense, but uh, you know, and I 474 00:23:46,560 --> 00:23:49,440 Speaker 5: also know my role on this team too, So I'm 475 00:23:49,440 --> 00:23:52,159 Speaker 5: just trying to, you know, build my role, continue to 476 00:23:52,160 --> 00:23:55,119 Speaker 5: make a ton of plays and uh yeah, man, just 477 00:23:55,119 --> 00:23:56,240 Speaker 5: have a lot of fun on Sundays. 478 00:23:56,280 --> 00:23:58,119 Speaker 1: Are you and Augret working with that same guy? 479 00:23:58,359 --> 00:24:01,720 Speaker 3: Yeah, we were working together all off season. We both 480 00:24:01,720 --> 00:24:04,040 Speaker 3: got a lot better. It's crazy just to see the 481 00:24:04,080 --> 00:24:05,960 Speaker 3: growth that we made in one year and. 482 00:24:07,440 --> 00:24:09,879 Speaker 5: Going into year three, it's just you're just more comfortable. 483 00:24:10,000 --> 00:24:12,399 Speaker 5: You know the system, you know your teammates more so, 484 00:24:12,920 --> 00:24:15,240 Speaker 5: just continue to build that relationship with guys in the 485 00:24:15,240 --> 00:24:17,520 Speaker 5: locker room and then you know, putting it out on 486 00:24:17,560 --> 00:24:18,480 Speaker 5: tape on Sundays. 487 00:24:18,480 --> 00:24:22,520 Speaker 1: So maybe a cliche, but everybody says fatherhood changes you. 488 00:24:22,720 --> 00:24:23,760 Speaker 1: How has it changed you? 489 00:24:24,880 --> 00:24:28,040 Speaker 5: I mean, just seeing my son has changed my perspective 490 00:24:28,040 --> 00:24:30,879 Speaker 5: on life in a way that I can't really explain, 491 00:24:30,960 --> 00:24:33,760 Speaker 5: but I think people that have kids understand. But outside 492 00:24:33,760 --> 00:24:36,160 Speaker 5: of that, I mean, I have a great partner. She 493 00:24:36,160 --> 00:24:38,560 Speaker 5: She takes a lot of like the heavy load with 494 00:24:38,600 --> 00:24:41,960 Speaker 5: my son at night, and you know, allows me to pursue, 495 00:24:43,119 --> 00:24:45,000 Speaker 5: you know, what I need to every single day to 496 00:24:45,040 --> 00:24:49,320 Speaker 5: be a really good football player. So just seeing him 497 00:24:49,359 --> 00:24:52,399 Speaker 5: grow and you know, watching her become, you know, a 498 00:24:52,400 --> 00:24:54,680 Speaker 5: great mother, has been special. 499 00:24:56,200 --> 00:24:59,520 Speaker 1: The wide receiver specialist that Brown and andre Yosi Bosch 500 00:24:59,600 --> 00:25:02,679 Speaker 1: work with is Drew Lieberman, whose program has called the 501 00:25:02,760 --> 00:25:06,400 Speaker 1: Sideline Hustle. Kendrick Pryor, who spent most of the last 502 00:25:06,440 --> 00:25:09,359 Speaker 1: two years on the Bengals practice squad, also worked with 503 00:25:09,400 --> 00:25:14,880 Speaker 1: Lieberman this offseason. Topic four Dax Hill. The Bengals picked 504 00:25:14,920 --> 00:25:17,359 Speaker 1: up his fifth year option last week, meaning Dax is 505 00:25:17,440 --> 00:25:21,200 Speaker 1: under contract through next season, and it's worth pointing out 506 00:25:21,320 --> 00:25:24,040 Speaker 1: that it's still possible to sign him to a longer 507 00:25:24,119 --> 00:25:28,040 Speaker 1: deal if the two sides are interested. Last year, Hill 508 00:25:28,080 --> 00:25:32,359 Speaker 1: made the transition from safety to outside cornerback and was 509 00:25:32,400 --> 00:25:36,439 Speaker 1: thriving before tearing his ACL in Week five. Here's what 510 00:25:36,520 --> 00:25:39,520 Speaker 1: cornerbacks coach Chuck Berks had to say when I asked 511 00:25:39,600 --> 00:25:42,399 Speaker 1: him about Dax near the end of last season. 512 00:25:43,840 --> 00:25:47,000 Speaker 8: Yeah, I thought Dax was doing a phenomenal job, especially 513 00:25:47,000 --> 00:25:49,800 Speaker 8: for somebody making a transition. You know, within a year, 514 00:25:49,880 --> 00:25:55,359 Speaker 8: he was really playing extremely consistent. The game against the Ravens, 515 00:25:55,400 --> 00:25:58,440 Speaker 8: he was actually starting at corner and starting at nickel 516 00:25:58,440 --> 00:26:01,239 Speaker 8: because Mike Hilton was gone, and uh, he was on 517 00:26:01,240 --> 00:26:02,600 Speaker 8: his way to have a good game that week. He 518 00:26:02,720 --> 00:26:05,919 Speaker 8: was you know, really playing the best, uh, out of 519 00:26:05,920 --> 00:26:08,760 Speaker 8: all the corners to that point of the season. And uh, 520 00:26:08,800 --> 00:26:12,000 Speaker 8: that was a tremendous loss. You know, when we lost Dax, 521 00:26:12,000 --> 00:26:15,040 Speaker 8: we really lost three starting positions. We lost the corner, 522 00:26:15,200 --> 00:26:18,640 Speaker 8: we lost the nickel, and we lost you know, uh 523 00:26:18,880 --> 00:26:20,840 Speaker 8: a tight end cover guy on third down. So that 524 00:26:20,920 --> 00:26:22,280 Speaker 8: was a tremendous loss for the defense. 525 00:26:22,720 --> 00:26:26,000 Speaker 1: Outside cover corner is one of the most difficult positions 526 00:26:26,040 --> 00:26:28,199 Speaker 1: to play. It's why the top ones make more than 527 00:26:28,200 --> 00:26:31,600 Speaker 1: twenty million dollars a year. Did Dak show you that 528 00:26:31,680 --> 00:26:33,879 Speaker 1: he has the ability to be one of those guys? 529 00:26:35,160 --> 00:26:38,080 Speaker 8: And you know, I've never doubted that really since he 530 00:26:38,119 --> 00:26:40,840 Speaker 8: was drafted. You know, I always believed that the Dax 531 00:26:40,880 --> 00:26:43,880 Speaker 8: could play outside corner, and you know, we made that transition. 532 00:26:44,080 --> 00:26:46,080 Speaker 8: You know, he didn't blink. I didn't blink. I actually 533 00:26:46,160 --> 00:26:48,640 Speaker 8: felt that we had drafted the first round corner this year, 534 00:26:48,920 --> 00:26:51,960 Speaker 8: you know when we made the switch. So I definitely 535 00:26:53,080 --> 00:26:55,840 Speaker 8: see it from an ability standpoint, But more importantly, Dax 536 00:26:55,920 --> 00:26:59,879 Speaker 8: has the mental makeup of being able to play that 537 00:27:00,080 --> 00:27:02,320 Speaker 8: position and critical moments of the game. And what makes 538 00:27:02,320 --> 00:27:04,520 Speaker 8: these guys elite, Me and me and Jase mccordy is 539 00:27:04,520 --> 00:27:08,040 Speaker 8: actually having this conversation. Is what makes elite corners elite 540 00:27:08,280 --> 00:27:11,439 Speaker 8: is their elite and third down radar and two minute 541 00:27:11,640 --> 00:27:15,040 Speaker 8: against their best. That's what makes these guys elite. And 542 00:27:15,359 --> 00:27:17,480 Speaker 8: you have to have the right temperament for it. You 543 00:27:17,560 --> 00:27:20,000 Speaker 8: have to have a short memory and be able to 544 00:27:20,000 --> 00:27:22,280 Speaker 8: have a tremendous belief in yourself throughout the game. And 545 00:27:22,280 --> 00:27:23,160 Speaker 8: that's what Dax has. 546 00:27:24,200 --> 00:27:26,840 Speaker 1: So the big question now is where is Dax going 547 00:27:26,880 --> 00:27:30,239 Speaker 1: to play. Mike Hilton is a free agent, leaving the 548 00:27:30,240 --> 00:27:33,919 Speaker 1: starting spot open at slot corner, a position that Dax 549 00:27:33,960 --> 00:27:39,160 Speaker 1: played in college. But outside corners are so valuable, perhaps 550 00:27:39,240 --> 00:27:41,360 Speaker 1: the Bengals would be better off to leave him there 551 00:27:41,800 --> 00:27:45,120 Speaker 1: and use Josh Newton or Jalen Davis in the slot. 552 00:27:45,720 --> 00:27:50,480 Speaker 1: Here's Duke Tobin. Dax has positioned versatility he's probably got 553 00:27:50,560 --> 00:27:52,680 Speaker 1: He's probably one of the more versatile players that we 554 00:27:52,760 --> 00:27:55,280 Speaker 1: have on our team, and so there are a number 555 00:27:55,359 --> 00:27:56,920 Speaker 1: of things he could end up doing. 556 00:27:57,400 --> 00:28:00,280 Speaker 9: What he ends up doing will be up to Uzach 557 00:28:00,359 --> 00:28:02,200 Speaker 9: and Now and his staff. 558 00:28:03,280 --> 00:28:05,399 Speaker 1: The bottom line is to get your best guys on 559 00:28:05,480 --> 00:28:07,960 Speaker 1: the field, and it will be interesting to see how 560 00:28:08,000 --> 00:28:12,080 Speaker 1: that situation unfolds at training camp. The fifth and final 561 00:28:12,119 --> 00:28:16,440 Speaker 1: topic is safety. Gino Stone led the Bengals with four 562 00:28:16,520 --> 00:28:20,040 Speaker 1: interceptions last year and Jordan Battle finished the season on 563 00:28:20,080 --> 00:28:22,679 Speaker 1: a high note after moving into the starting line up 564 00:28:22,680 --> 00:28:26,520 Speaker 1: with six games to go, but overall, the position group 565 00:28:26,800 --> 00:28:30,200 Speaker 1: needs to perform better this season and the Bengals did 566 00:28:30,240 --> 00:28:33,520 Speaker 1: not address it in the draft. I discussed that with 567 00:28:33,640 --> 00:28:39,360 Speaker 1: Director of College Scouting Mike Potts. You didn't draft to safety. 568 00:28:39,720 --> 00:28:42,160 Speaker 1: Is that just the way the board fell or is 569 00:28:42,200 --> 00:28:44,080 Speaker 1: it a reflection of how you feel about the guys 570 00:28:44,080 --> 00:28:44,760 Speaker 1: that are already here. 571 00:28:45,080 --> 00:28:47,840 Speaker 9: It's a combination of both. Safety is a position that 572 00:28:48,480 --> 00:28:50,440 Speaker 9: we valued a number of guys in this draft at 573 00:28:50,480 --> 00:28:52,800 Speaker 9: different levels, and there were a lot of guys that 574 00:28:52,840 --> 00:28:57,040 Speaker 9: were in the discussion in almost every round that we 575 00:28:57,080 --> 00:28:59,400 Speaker 9: could have addressed that safety position. Like you said, it 576 00:28:59,400 --> 00:29:02,920 Speaker 9: didn't work out. That's just not the way the board 577 00:29:02,960 --> 00:29:07,680 Speaker 9: shook out for us. So we do like the safeties 578 00:29:07,680 --> 00:29:10,280 Speaker 9: that we have on the roster right now, and we think, 579 00:29:10,440 --> 00:29:12,920 Speaker 9: you know, some of our guys even have more upside 580 00:29:12,960 --> 00:29:16,239 Speaker 9: to potentially ascend and get better than what they've been 581 00:29:16,320 --> 00:29:18,880 Speaker 9: so far. So that's a position that will continue to 582 00:29:18,920 --> 00:29:21,960 Speaker 9: monitor throughout the off season. But we do like the 583 00:29:22,000 --> 00:29:24,200 Speaker 9: guys that we have in the room right now. But 584 00:29:24,240 --> 00:29:27,400 Speaker 9: it's an ongoing process leading all the way up until 585 00:29:27,520 --> 00:29:30,400 Speaker 9: Week one of the season in terms of evaluating the 586 00:29:30,400 --> 00:29:32,200 Speaker 9: options that are out there to upgrade the roster. 587 00:29:33,200 --> 00:29:36,520 Speaker 1: Tyson Anderson and Dejon Anthony are also in the mix, 588 00:29:36,720 --> 00:29:40,760 Speaker 1: and there are still some veteran free agent safeties out there. 589 00:29:40,840 --> 00:29:44,640 Speaker 1: If the Bengals determine that the position group still needs help, 590 00:29:45,160 --> 00:29:47,000 Speaker 1: that's going to do it. 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