WEBVTT - Nate Richert Meets World 0:00:19.239 --> 0:00:21.800 I've been on pretty extensive road trip, Like I've been 0:00:22.280 --> 0:00:25.120 on the road for three weeks and I'm still going 0:00:25.160 --> 0:00:27.520 to be on the road for another ten days. But 0:00:27.600 --> 0:00:32.960 part of the trip was driving from Portland to my parents' 0:00:32.960 --> 0:00:37.199 house in Sebastopall with another family. So it was me 0:00:37.440 --> 0:00:39.639 and India and Alex and then our friends in their 0:00:39.680 --> 0:00:43.320 car with their two daughters. And one of the games 0:00:43.320 --> 0:00:45.360 that we've were playing, like you know, we're doing all 0:00:45.400 --> 0:00:47.480 these sort of road trip games and stories and. 0:00:47.400 --> 0:00:51.080 Whatever, but one of them was the Cursed Item game, 0:00:51.560 --> 0:00:52.239 where like you. 0:00:53.159 --> 0:00:55.080 We stopped for lunch somewhere, we're all having We're in 0:00:55.120 --> 0:00:58.200 this little picnic area having sandwiches, and it's like somebody 0:00:58.280 --> 0:01:01.200 picks an object that is cursed, like whoever has it 0:01:01.240 --> 0:01:04.200 is and then throughout the road trip you're passing this 0:01:04.280 --> 0:01:06.520 item like you're cursing the person. So we picked like 0:01:06.560 --> 0:01:10.000 you know the little tabs that close up bread like yeah, 0:01:10.040 --> 0:01:11.039 those little pin Yeah. 0:01:11.240 --> 0:01:14.319 So we're like every so you do, like stop for 0:01:14.400 --> 0:01:15.039 gas and. 0:01:14.959 --> 0:01:16.760 Like one of the kids would be like hey ride 0:01:16.840 --> 0:01:18.240 or what and then you just throw it in your 0:01:18.319 --> 0:01:19.080 lap and run away. 0:01:19.240 --> 0:01:21.200 You're stuck with the cursed item and. 0:01:21.160 --> 0:01:22.640 Then you're trying to like, so it was just like 0:01:22.680 --> 0:01:24.520 this ongoing thing that went on for days, like who 0:01:24.600 --> 0:01:25.560 is stuck with the breadpin? 0:01:25.760 --> 0:01:30.080 But whatever reminded me of do you guys remember the 0:01:30.080 --> 0:01:31.800 clothes pin stuff that. 0:01:31.760 --> 0:01:32.319 We used to do? 0:01:33.680 --> 0:01:35.880 Oh my god? 0:01:35.920 --> 0:01:36.520 Memory? Right? 0:01:36.640 --> 0:01:39.119 Yeah, and what do you remember what they call clothes pins? 0:01:40.440 --> 0:01:44.160 It's like a film set thing, the C forty seven No, oh, 0:01:44.160 --> 0:01:45.680 you don't know this yet. Oh my god. 0:01:45.720 --> 0:01:48.320 So there's this whole thing where you call clothes pins 0:01:48.320 --> 0:01:51.440 on film sets C forty seven's, Like it's a technical term, 0:01:51.680 --> 0:01:54.080 and I think it goes back to like that was 0:01:54.160 --> 0:01:56.680 a it was like a billiing thing, like because if 0:01:56.680 --> 0:01:58.880 you were just buying clothes pins, you couldn't count it 0:01:58.920 --> 0:02:01.360 as like gear, but they would like call it a 0:02:01.400 --> 0:02:04.040 C forty seven, and then the studio heads wouldn't notice 0:02:04.040 --> 0:02:06.200 that they were spending money on clothes pins. But yeah, 0:02:06.280 --> 0:02:08.400 so they're called C forty seven's on sets, and that's 0:02:08.400 --> 0:02:10.960 like an ongoing thing experienced on almost every set. 0:02:11.040 --> 0:02:12.680 And I don't think people know about it because it's 0:02:12.720 --> 0:02:13.359 so obscure. 0:02:13.680 --> 0:02:15.800 But you try and take a clothes pin and you 0:02:15.880 --> 0:02:18.440 pin it to people, like a crew member who's like 0:02:18.480 --> 0:02:20.040 watching the set and you try it. 0:02:20.120 --> 0:02:21.880 We used to add like fifty of them. 0:02:24.240 --> 0:02:26.919 So many clothes pins, so you clip them to. 0:02:26.880 --> 0:02:27.680 Like the back of their shirt. 0:02:27.720 --> 0:02:29.680 That was like the primary spot, like where they wouldn't 0:02:29.680 --> 0:02:32.200 even feel it or know it. But then like, yeah, 0:02:32.360 --> 0:02:34.200 at the end of the day, somebody might have like 0:02:34.360 --> 0:02:35.919 five clothes pins on the back of their shirt. 0:02:35.919 --> 0:02:38.120 And you got me Rusty's. 0:02:38.240 --> 0:02:42.400 Rusty's jean jacket was perfect for it, And so we 0:02:42.440 --> 0:02:44.959 would all just walk by and he'd eventually go to 0:02:45.000 --> 0:02:46.919 sit down or something and there would literally be ten 0:02:47.000 --> 0:02:48.000 or twelve pins on. 0:02:47.880 --> 0:02:51.000 The back of his jacket. So, oh my god, Kim, we. 0:02:51.160 --> 0:02:53.359 Started that, didn't We used to write something on them 0:02:53.400 --> 0:02:55.080 to our names? Did we write? Do we have our 0:02:55.160 --> 0:02:57.480 names on them? So you knew which clothes pin was 0:02:57.480 --> 0:02:57.880 from who. 0:02:58.280 --> 0:03:00.519 I don't even remember. I just remember it happened. 0:03:00.600 --> 0:03:02.560 It's happened on every set I've ever But my boy, 0:03:02.639 --> 0:03:04.240 we did it all the time. But it's like it's 0:03:04.240 --> 0:03:06.720 a tradition and it's like I totally forgot about it 0:03:06.800 --> 0:03:08.400 until we were doing this cursed item thing and I 0:03:08.440 --> 0:03:09.600 was like, why does. 0:03:09.440 --> 0:03:10.480 This feel familiar? 0:03:10.480 --> 0:03:10.600 Oh? 0:03:10.680 --> 0:03:12.160 Right, we used to do this all. 0:03:12.080 --> 0:03:16.359 The time, so much fun. Speaking of cursed items, did 0:03:16.400 --> 0:03:19.200 you have you guys ever heard my cursed items story 0:03:19.240 --> 0:03:20.320 from Hawaii? 0:03:20.680 --> 0:03:21.240 No? 0:03:21.240 --> 0:03:23.760 No, okay, wait, like the like the Brady Bunch with 0:03:23.800 --> 0:03:24.480 the tiki doll. 0:03:24.600 --> 0:03:25.240 What happened? 0:03:25.520 --> 0:03:27.080 I don't know, but I don't know that episode. 0:03:27.320 --> 0:03:29.280 Well, my god, famous, yeah, famous Brady Bunch. 0:03:29.320 --> 0:03:33.000 Anyway, okay, Well, on one of my many family trips 0:03:33.000 --> 0:03:35.559 to Hawaii when I was a teen, on Boy Meets World, 0:03:36.400 --> 0:03:39.840 we were playing in the ocean, as one does, right, 0:03:39.960 --> 0:03:42.880 you know, on the sand near the ocean, and my brother, 0:03:43.200 --> 0:03:46.600 who was probably no more than like eight at the time, 0:03:46.800 --> 0:03:49.680 eight or nine, comes running up and he's got a 0:03:49.680 --> 0:03:54.800 bone and he goes, look, it's a whalebone. It's a 0:03:54.840 --> 0:03:58.640 big bone. And we're like, a whalebone, what are you 0:03:58.640 --> 0:03:59.040 talking about? 0:03:59.080 --> 0:04:03.720 And he's like the beginning episode, this is a human bone. 0:04:03.960 --> 0:04:07.400 It's a whalebone. Look at this whalebone. We're like, no, 0:04:07.440 --> 0:04:09.600 I don't think that's a whalebone. He refuses to get 0:04:09.640 --> 0:04:11.120 rid of it. He's like in a carry it around 0:04:11.120 --> 0:04:14.560 with him, so he takes it with him. Later that afternoon, 0:04:14.720 --> 0:04:18.359 we go on jet skis and we get jet skis. 0:04:18.400 --> 0:04:20.080 We're out in the middle of the ocean, and they 0:04:20.120 --> 0:04:23.120 have those emergency clips kind of like treadmills where you're 0:04:23.120 --> 0:04:26.240 can adadge it to yourself and fall off stops. So 0:04:26.320 --> 0:04:29.600 my dad is like doing donuts in on his jet 0:04:29.640 --> 0:04:34.240 skis as my dad would do, and the jet he's 0:04:34.279 --> 0:04:36.560 going really fast, so he's going at full speed and 0:04:36.600 --> 0:04:38.360 then turning it as quickly as he could and doing 0:04:38.440 --> 0:04:42.719 a spin. He goes flying straight up into the air. 0:04:42.760 --> 0:04:45.320 He gets like, I don't know what happened. He gets 0:04:45.680 --> 0:04:49.880 propelled straight up into the air. The emergency clip gets released, 0:04:50.440 --> 0:04:56.039 my dad lands back down on the jet ski starts, 0:04:56.440 --> 0:04:59.159 cuts his shin open, and the jet ski with the 0:04:59.200 --> 0:05:04.000 emergency key out of it, then takes off, just jet 0:05:04.000 --> 0:05:06.800 ski possessed gone out in. My dad is now in 0:05:06.839 --> 0:05:09.480 the middle of the ocean, bleeding from his shin in 0:05:09.560 --> 0:05:10.000 the water. 0:05:10.279 --> 0:05:13.320 It was the spirit of the whale. The whalebone cursed him. 0:05:13.400 --> 0:05:17.520 So there are now at least four or five other 0:05:17.720 --> 0:05:21.480 examples on this trip. After my brother had this whalebone 0:05:21.720 --> 0:05:24.920 and it kept happening to my dad, all these really 0:05:24.920 --> 0:05:27.080 bad things kept happening to my dad. 0:05:27.400 --> 0:05:29.560 Yeah, yeah, and my brother. 0:05:29.720 --> 0:05:32.800 Finally one day we're going to Whaler's Village, which is 0:05:32.839 --> 0:05:37.159 the shopping center in Mali, and they have a museum there, 0:05:37.160 --> 0:05:40.400 and my dad goes, let's take this whalebone and show 0:05:40.440 --> 0:05:42.159 it to them and ask them if they have any 0:05:42.160 --> 0:05:46.040 idea what this bone is. It was a human femur 0:05:48.320 --> 0:05:52.919 that had washed up from the cemetery. The cemeteries there 0:05:52.960 --> 0:05:56.400 are their water levels have come up, and the ces 0:05:57.080 --> 0:06:00.640 it was a human femur, and they said, the the 0:06:00.680 --> 0:06:03.320 best thing for you to do is to take this 0:06:03.520 --> 0:06:06.360 back to the ocean where you found it and just 0:06:06.480 --> 0:06:07.040 throw it back. 0:06:07.440 --> 0:06:10.280 The beginning of every scary story. You're a voice at night? 0:06:10.360 --> 0:06:13.320 Where's my female? But it has to start as a 0:06:13.320 --> 0:06:14.120 whale voice, right? 0:06:14.839 --> 0:06:16.600 Who more? 0:06:17.279 --> 0:06:21.200 And then it's not a where it's not aware, it's not. 0:06:21.680 --> 0:06:24.120 But we then after we knew this, my dad was like, 0:06:24.800 --> 0:06:28.480 wait a minute, all these awful things have been happening 0:06:28.520 --> 0:06:31.159 to me ever since we've been in possession of this 0:06:31.360 --> 0:06:32.359 cursed item. 0:06:32.960 --> 0:06:33.520 So this happened. 0:06:33.520 --> 0:06:35.440 Have you ever heard of the making of what was 0:06:35.440 --> 0:06:37.120 it Poltergeist or Poultergeist too? 0:06:37.160 --> 0:06:37.720 Have you ever heard? 0:06:37.960 --> 0:06:42.559 So they were literally kept having all these accidents, people 0:06:42.600 --> 0:06:45.120 getting hurt, the sets were crashing, all this stuff was 0:06:45.160 --> 0:06:47.720 going on, and one of the cast members was like, 0:06:48.279 --> 0:06:51.719 the skeletons we have, where did you get these? And 0:06:51.800 --> 0:06:55.080 it turns out they were actual human skeletons that they 0:06:55.120 --> 0:06:58.600 got from like a medical lab, and they were a 0:06:58.720 --> 0:07:02.200 Native American shaman came in and performed these rituals and 0:07:02.240 --> 0:07:03.400 they took the bodies away. 0:07:03.240 --> 0:07:06.160 And all the accidents stopped, like instantly. 0:07:06.200 --> 0:07:08.160 It was like, it's one of the most famous Hollywood 0:07:08.200 --> 0:07:11.240 cursed kind of shooting a movie stories ever where even 0:07:11.320 --> 0:07:11.640 Craig T. 0:07:11.720 --> 0:07:13.480 Nelson is like, it was the craziest thing. 0:07:13.560 --> 0:07:15.520 I don't believe in any of this stuff, and we 0:07:15.680 --> 0:07:18.320 just people were getting hurt stuff, the film wasn't coming 0:07:18.360 --> 0:07:21.000 out right. Is like everything was wrong with this shoot 0:07:21.160 --> 0:07:24.560 and turned out there at using actual human human bodies, Yeah. 0:07:24.320 --> 0:07:25.680 Gosh crazy. 0:07:26.120 --> 0:07:28.360 Yeah, but were they putting close pints on the skeletons? 0:07:28.400 --> 0:07:31.760 I know where they put the skeletons. Fifty clothes pins 0:07:31.840 --> 0:07:37.520 on that skeleton. Forty seven trick Oh my, Welcome. 0:07:37.200 --> 0:07:39.920 To Pod meets World. I'm Danielle Fischel, I'm Rider Strong, 0:07:39.960 --> 0:07:54.880 and I'm Wilfridill. When we hit the midway point of 0:07:54.960 --> 0:07:57.600 Boy Meets World episodes to recap. We held a bit 0:07:57.600 --> 0:08:00.760 of a family reunion, inviting all of guests we had 0:08:00.800 --> 0:08:02.960 had on the first half of the Show's all to 0:08:03.040 --> 0:08:06.160 Writer's House for a bit of a Korean barbecue party. Right, 0:08:06.200 --> 0:08:09.160 that's the food you had. We had Korean barbecue, right, No, 0:08:09.320 --> 0:08:10.200 we had tacos. 0:08:10.240 --> 0:08:11.360 Your taco guy was there? 0:08:12.160 --> 0:08:14.240 Really? Y? Yeah, Korean barbecue? 0:08:14.280 --> 0:08:14.840 Is my birthday? 0:08:15.000 --> 0:08:16.600 Oh that was my birthday. 0:08:17.720 --> 0:08:20.640 You know what's so funny. Jensen's not on here. He's 0:08:20.680 --> 0:08:23.120 going to be real happy to hear that. He insisted 0:08:23.160 --> 0:08:24.320 it was tacos, and. 0:08:24.280 --> 0:08:26.040 I said it was. It was a taco guy. 0:08:26.280 --> 0:08:31.800 A writer and Alex hate tacos. We wouldn't never have 0:08:31.960 --> 0:08:35.360 had tacos. And he was like, but I think we did, 0:08:35.440 --> 0:08:37.440 And I said, no, it was. There was a guy 0:08:37.480 --> 0:08:39.720 with a grill. And then I started describing your birthday party. 0:08:40.520 --> 0:08:43.440 Yeah, all right, tacos. 0:08:43.720 --> 0:08:46.280 Remember this moment, Jensen was right about something. 0:08:47.160 --> 0:08:49.520 We all heard it, but he didn't. 0:08:49.559 --> 0:08:51.880 You didn't tell him later, She's. 0:08:51.720 --> 0:08:52.800 Never going to tell herself. 0:08:52.840 --> 0:08:55.199 Come on, tell him, tell he did. There's a win 0:08:55.559 --> 0:09:03.400 every five years, all to Writer's House for a taco party, 0:09:03.720 --> 0:09:06.280 marking the first time most of our beloved co workers 0:09:06.360 --> 0:09:08.360 were in the same place since the show wrapped in 0:09:08.400 --> 0:09:12.080 the year two thousand and one. Unexpected by product of 0:09:12.080 --> 0:09:14.480 that day was getting to hang out with this week's guest, 0:09:14.800 --> 0:09:17.280 someone who hadn't yet appeared on the pod, but is 0:09:17.400 --> 0:09:21.000 dating one of our favorite guest stars, Natanya Ross. And 0:09:21.080 --> 0:09:23.520 so like when you find a five dollar bill in 0:09:23.559 --> 0:09:26.920 a vintage jacket you bought off eBay, his attendance was 0:09:26.960 --> 0:09:30.040 a welcome surprise, and now we get to have him 0:09:30.080 --> 0:09:32.920 all to ourselves. He starred in almost one hundred and 0:09:32.960 --> 0:09:36.520 twenty five episodes of Sabrina the Teenage Witch as Harvey Kinkel, 0:09:36.880 --> 0:09:40.600 which was also somehow his first role ever. He helped 0:09:40.600 --> 0:09:42.920 make Fridays a must see night of television and as 0:09:42.920 --> 0:09:45.520 a result made us the middle child of the block 0:09:45.960 --> 0:09:48.400 look a whole lot better when it came time for renewal, 0:09:48.679 --> 0:09:50.280 and even when they tried to get rid of him, 0:09:50.320 --> 0:09:53.400 they couldn't keep him down, a rare occurrence in nineties TV, 0:09:53.480 --> 0:09:56.320 where child actors appeared to be as disposable as the 0:09:56.360 --> 0:09:59.320 cameras we used at parties. He also appeared on The 0:09:59.320 --> 0:10:02.080 Tony danzs sho and Touched by an Angel, and his 0:10:02.160 --> 0:10:05.240 honesty about anxiety and life after Hollywood has been a 0:10:05.240 --> 0:10:07.920 helpful breath of fresh air for those encountering the same 0:10:07.960 --> 0:10:11.160 obstacles in life. And we think after today's episode you'll 0:10:11.160 --> 0:10:12.920 be saying the same thing the three of us said 0:10:12.960 --> 0:10:17.880 after that mid series Taco Party Guy Rules. Welcome to 0:10:17.920 --> 0:10:27.720 the podcast from Sabrina the Teenage Witch. It's Nate Richard. Oh, well, welcome. 0:10:27.880 --> 0:10:30.160 Thank you so much for being here with us. We 0:10:30.600 --> 0:10:32.840 are on a bit of a mission to reunite with 0:10:33.000 --> 0:10:38.040 all of our former TGIF neighbors. Okay, and so we're 0:10:38.160 --> 0:10:39.800 really happy that you're here with us. 0:10:40.240 --> 0:10:41.840 Well, thank you so much for having me. 0:10:42.320 --> 0:10:44.400 We talked about how we reunited with you at our 0:10:44.440 --> 0:10:49.040 pod meets World slash Boy meets World reunion. Yeah, exactly. 0:10:50.800 --> 0:10:52.760 Wasn't that your birthday as well? 0:10:53.880 --> 0:10:55.120 Those birthday is in December? 0:10:55.280 --> 0:10:58.560 Yea, that was just a lot of fun. 0:10:58.920 --> 0:11:00.600 You may have also come to the birthday. Did you 0:11:00.640 --> 0:11:02.200 also come to his birthday in December? 0:11:02.559 --> 0:11:05.480 No, it was just that, Yeah, it was just that 0:11:05.520 --> 0:11:12.200 one Taco day, Tayaco Tuesday. 0:11:13.080 --> 0:11:14.839 So, Nate, I want to talk to you about your 0:11:14.960 --> 0:11:17.960 origin story, like where you began. You grew up in 0:11:18.000 --> 0:11:19.520 Saint Paul, Minnesota, right. 0:11:19.600 --> 0:11:20.080 I did. 0:11:20.480 --> 0:11:23.240 How did you convince your parents that you needed to 0:11:23.480 --> 0:11:24.400 move to Hollywood and. 0:11:25.600 --> 0:11:30.120 Wait to get rid of me? It started my my 0:11:30.600 --> 0:11:34.760 little sister and my mother did community theater and uh, 0:11:35.640 --> 0:11:38.480 one of the kid's mom said, oh, you need to 0:11:38.720 --> 0:11:41.760 bring your daughter to this agency and have her do commercials. 0:11:41.800 --> 0:11:44.840 And I was just along for the ride. And so 0:11:44.960 --> 0:11:47.080 the agency was like, well, do you want to sign 0:11:47.160 --> 0:11:51.240 him too? And I just started auditioning at I think 0:11:51.240 --> 0:11:52.000 I was seven. 0:11:52.600 --> 0:11:54.600 Wow, So did you want to do it? 0:11:54.640 --> 0:11:56.199 Is this something you were interested in or were you 0:11:56.280 --> 0:11:57.520 were just kind of were you trafficked? 0:12:00.559 --> 0:12:03.439 Like at that time, I was in a dance school. 0:12:04.320 --> 0:12:07.200 I grew up in a dance school, tap, jazz, and ballet. 0:12:07.320 --> 0:12:11.640 It was I guess, uh, you know, my parents wanted 0:12:11.679 --> 0:12:14.280 to run the energy out of us rather than sending 0:12:14.320 --> 0:12:17.320 us to daycare, that they sent us to this dance school. 0:12:17.600 --> 0:12:19.600 And that was back in the days of you know, 0:12:19.960 --> 0:12:22.040 I thought I was going to learn to break dance 0:12:22.120 --> 0:12:26.480 because my friends had done it. You know, everybody had 0:12:26.520 --> 0:12:27.840 their piece of cardboard out in. 0:12:27.840 --> 0:12:32.839 The yeah parachute in your Nike pullover jacket. Were I'm 0:12:32.880 --> 0:12:34.280 guessing the same exact age? 0:12:34.360 --> 0:12:34.560 Yes? 0:12:34.920 --> 0:12:37.000 And then I show up in its ballet shoes and 0:12:37.040 --> 0:12:41.319 tap shoes, and I had a few cries and but 0:12:41.320 --> 0:12:43.400 but then I really got into it, and it was 0:12:43.920 --> 0:12:46.520 it was a very very militant dance school. They took 0:12:46.640 --> 0:12:49.520 every you know, they took it very seriously, even with 0:12:49.640 --> 0:12:52.600 kids at a very young age. And you know all 0:12:52.640 --> 0:12:55.000 these things that I'm sure you guys have been through this. 0:12:55.120 --> 0:12:58.959 You have all these things where you laugh about all 0:12:58.960 --> 0:13:02.120 this stuff that and then you realized later that was 0:13:02.160 --> 0:13:03.400 probably child abuse. 0:13:05.000 --> 0:13:06.520 But you gotta laugh, you gotta laugh. 0:13:08.600 --> 0:13:12.520 And yeah, it was a very strict. So this auditioning 0:13:12.600 --> 0:13:16.920 and having fun with dialogue and cracking the adults up 0:13:17.040 --> 0:13:19.800 is something that I really loved about it. And I 0:13:19.840 --> 0:13:21.840 was a latch key kid, so I was sort of 0:13:21.920 --> 0:13:23.240 radised on television. 0:13:23.400 --> 0:13:27.679 You know, God where we very very similar background? 0:13:28.600 --> 0:13:29.800 Did you where did you grow up? 0:13:29.920 --> 0:13:32.080 I grew up in Connecticut. I was a latchkey kid. 0:13:32.920 --> 0:13:35.560 I was a breakdancer. Did you prefer breaking or breaking 0:13:35.640 --> 0:13:36.880 to electric boogaloo? 0:13:37.480 --> 0:13:41.199 I'm sure I never got the chance to do either. 0:13:41.280 --> 0:13:43.840 It was just straight to strength, to know what I'm saying. 0:13:43.840 --> 0:13:46.560 Does there a movies there are movies breaking breaking? 0:13:46.679 --> 0:13:46.920 Too? 0:13:47.120 --> 0:13:48.800 Yeah? I don't remember. 0:13:49.000 --> 0:13:51.360 Oh my goodness, Okay, we're not the same person at 0:13:51.360 --> 0:13:51.880 all anymore. 0:13:51.880 --> 0:13:55.080 No, No, I'm gonna watch I'll probably have. 0:13:54.960 --> 0:13:58.080 Something podcast on it later. 0:13:58.880 --> 0:14:01.880 Watching sitcoms, you know, the Nike at Night and you 0:14:01.920 --> 0:14:04.120 know I watched I Dream of Jeanie and then cut 0:14:04.160 --> 0:14:08.600 to uh what ten twelve years later and I got 0:14:08.679 --> 0:14:09.840 to act with Barbara Eden. 0:14:09.920 --> 0:14:11.920 It was mal so. 0:14:12.280 --> 0:14:15.720 You know, everybody that I grew up watching was a 0:14:15.720 --> 0:14:20.000 guest star on THENA. So I was like a kid 0:14:20.000 --> 0:14:20.840 in the candy store. 0:14:20.880 --> 0:14:21.000 You know. 0:14:21.040 --> 0:14:22.880 We had have to cast the cheers, and we had, 0:14:23.200 --> 0:14:27.040 you know, have to cast a laugh in right, just 0:14:27.160 --> 0:14:28.040 all this stuff. 0:14:27.800 --> 0:14:29.200 All the people kids love. 0:14:30.960 --> 0:14:31.840 That's how we were too. 0:14:32.000 --> 0:14:35.160 Yeah, we're having soupy sales and Buddy Hackett, Like memory 0:14:35.240 --> 0:14:37.080 twelve year old wanted, right, you. 0:14:37.120 --> 0:14:41.760 Had Buddy Hackett? Yeah, oh wow. The only audio. I 0:14:41.800 --> 0:14:44.120 was a super shy kid back then too. You know, 0:14:44.160 --> 0:14:46.560 I could turn it on when I had dialogue, when 0:14:46.560 --> 0:14:49.080 I had a script memorized, but other than that, I 0:14:49.120 --> 0:14:51.440 was a really shy kid. So I was too afraid 0:14:51.440 --> 0:14:53.480 to get out. The only autograph I ever got was 0:14:53.520 --> 0:14:57.960 Dom Deloise, and I didn't ask for it. I just 0:14:58.040 --> 0:15:00.200 said oh, I can't believe you're here. And then next 0:15:00.280 --> 0:15:03.040 day he brought in the side that shot for me. 0:15:03.440 --> 0:15:05.040 That is so sweet. 0:15:05.440 --> 0:15:08.000 It is really sweet. It's actually hanging on the wall. 0:15:08.600 --> 0:15:11.200 I love that. That's so nice. He's like, you know what, 0:15:11.240 --> 0:15:13.120 You're probably not going to ask for it, but I 0:15:13.280 --> 0:15:15.480 know you want it, so I'm going to bring it 0:15:15.520 --> 0:15:15.720 to you. 0:15:16.040 --> 0:15:18.440 Yeah. Yeah, maybe he could see that I was a 0:15:18.480 --> 0:15:21.000 shy kid. I don't know. And you know, we had 0:15:21.040 --> 0:15:24.440 Martin Mall on there, and you know, we shared. He 0:15:24.520 --> 0:15:26.440 had one half the tray. They called it, what do 0:15:26.440 --> 0:15:29.000 they call him? The two Bangers one half. I was 0:15:29.040 --> 0:15:32.360 on the other, and we'd bring guitars in and play 0:15:32.440 --> 0:15:34.080 music to you. But I you know, I grew up 0:15:34.120 --> 0:15:38.280 watching Roseanne was another show I watched, and so you know, 0:15:38.520 --> 0:15:41.280 Clue I think was the very first VHS tape I 0:15:41.320 --> 0:15:44.960 bought my own allowance, So you know, I was automatically 0:15:45.400 --> 0:15:46.080 just yeah. 0:15:47.840 --> 0:15:51.200 Former you were a performing kid. You get for a kid, 0:15:51.320 --> 0:15:53.800 you get into acting. You signed with an agent around 0:15:53.840 --> 0:15:54.640 seven years. 0:15:54.440 --> 0:15:56.000 Old in Minneapolis. 0:15:56.320 --> 0:15:58.120 In Minneapolis, Yeah, okay. 0:15:57.840 --> 0:16:01.080 So lots and lots of commercials, you know, you know, legos, 0:16:01.400 --> 0:16:04.720 stuff like that. People find that stuff it's on the internet. 0:16:04.800 --> 0:16:07.800 Somebody will record the VHS tape and it's you know, 0:16:07.920 --> 0:16:11.280 somebody found you know, commercial line. It never goes. It 0:16:11.320 --> 0:16:13.800 was a little cave boy, you know. And that's the 0:16:13.920 --> 0:16:15.640 other thing I liked about it as a kid. You 0:16:15.680 --> 0:16:17.680 get to play dress up. I got to have like 0:16:17.720 --> 0:16:21.480 a prosthetic forehead and teeth and the cave man and uh. 0:16:21.560 --> 0:16:23.240 And the other thing I really loved about it as 0:16:23.240 --> 0:16:25.680 a kid was I get out of school. You know, 0:16:25.720 --> 0:16:29.120 of course, call to the office. Your dad's here to 0:16:29.120 --> 0:16:31.720 pick you up. You have an audition. I'm the only 0:16:31.800 --> 0:16:35.720 kid that could have a pager in school. Yeah remember 0:16:35.800 --> 0:16:36.560 this page days? 0:16:36.840 --> 0:16:37.360 Of course? 0:16:37.400 --> 0:16:38.160 Are you kidding? 0:16:38.400 --> 0:16:39.640 I missed the page days? 0:16:40.480 --> 0:16:40.680 Yeah. 0:16:40.920 --> 0:16:43.680 Better off with that, you know, construction. 0:16:43.800 --> 0:16:46.040 When I have time, I have to make this phone 0:16:46.120 --> 0:16:48.800 call to I know so much better. I was just 0:16:48.840 --> 0:16:51.400 at a family reunion and my aunt reminded me, Uh, 0:16:51.440 --> 0:16:54.200 do you remember at our last family reunion someone threw 0:16:54.280 --> 0:16:56.560 you into the pool with your pager on and you 0:16:56.600 --> 0:17:00.760 were furious about right, a pager? 0:17:01.360 --> 0:17:01.960 Oh no. 0:17:02.120 --> 0:17:04.040 The other thing about our shows, we had a bunch 0:17:04.040 --> 0:17:07.399 of animals because everybody was getting turned into something all 0:17:07.440 --> 0:17:10.080 the time, and there was a chimp on the show 0:17:10.800 --> 0:17:14.720 and just we're outside and my pager went off. The chimp. 0:17:14.880 --> 0:17:17.760 You handed him the pager, showed him where the button was, 0:17:17.800 --> 0:17:20.440 and he kept flipping the button. He's all excited. 0:17:20.480 --> 0:17:23.439 Oh my gosh, the pictures of a chimp with your pager. 0:17:23.760 --> 0:17:26.400 I got a Let me see, I got the elephant. 0:17:26.440 --> 0:17:29.040 I finally saw an elephant go through the elephant doors. 0:17:32.119 --> 0:17:33.119 People get to see that. 0:17:35.520 --> 0:17:37.600 Yeah, we had a I think we had a tiger 0:17:37.760 --> 0:17:40.440 or something at one point, and everybody, you know, obviously 0:17:40.480 --> 0:17:42.120 that was a closed set situation. 0:17:42.200 --> 0:17:44.080 So wait, did you shoot in front of an audience 0:17:44.200 --> 0:17:44.480 or no? 0:17:44.560 --> 0:17:45.000 We don't know. 0:17:45.200 --> 0:17:46.680 I was going to say, because you had so many 0:17:46.760 --> 0:17:48.840 set pieces that you couldn't really shoot in front of 0:17:48.840 --> 0:17:49.280 an audience. 0:17:49.280 --> 0:17:50.760 And that's the other thing too. It was kind of 0:17:50.800 --> 0:17:55.240 a rude awakening when I did other shows that had audiences. 0:17:55.280 --> 0:17:57.600 It was just something that I was I never really 0:17:57.640 --> 0:18:00.199 got used to, you know. Yeah, it took me a 0:18:00.200 --> 0:18:01.199 while to get over that. 0:18:02.160 --> 0:18:05.600 Yeah, well, tiger and audience don't usually go very well together, right, 0:18:06.359 --> 0:18:07.680 So yeah, not so good. 0:18:07.840 --> 0:18:10.280 So how did you make your way then from Minneapolis 0:18:10.600 --> 0:18:13.920 to Los Angeles and eventually booking Sabrina. 0:18:16.119 --> 0:18:18.920 Graduated high school about a half a year early, never 0:18:18.960 --> 0:18:22.840 took a study hall, never failed anything. And one of 0:18:22.880 --> 0:18:26.080 the agents at the agency in Minneapolis quit and started 0:18:26.080 --> 0:18:29.000 managing kids and taking them out to Los Angeles getting 0:18:29.000 --> 0:18:31.520 them agents, and I was in her first wave of 0:18:31.640 --> 0:18:36.160 kids that came out. So I pretty much said, hey, 0:18:36.200 --> 0:18:39.600