1 00:00:07,960 --> 00:00:12,159 Speaker 1: Welcome to the best podcast available training competition. Here are 2 00:00:12,160 --> 00:00:20,119 Speaker 1: your hosts, Jason Gibbs, Andrew Gribble and Dick Shook, and 3 00:00:20,280 --> 00:00:23,239 Speaker 1: we welcome you into the dog Bowl in Brea. Jason Gibbs, 4 00:00:23,400 --> 00:00:27,320 Speaker 1: Nick Shook, Andrew Gribble. It is the best podcast available. 5 00:00:28,040 --> 00:00:32,240 Speaker 1: The final day of workouts before we go to Indianapolis, 6 00:00:32,400 --> 00:00:34,400 Speaker 1: I just want every better to know today there was 7 00:00:34,440 --> 00:00:38,200 Speaker 1: a zero percent chance of rain and it rained, and 8 00:00:38,240 --> 00:00:41,360 Speaker 1: then after practice it poured. How do I know this 9 00:00:41,680 --> 00:00:43,879 Speaker 1: because I had to go outside and move radio stations 10 00:00:43,880 --> 00:00:46,800 Speaker 1: in a downpour. That's fine. It was nice, refreshing when 11 00:00:46,800 --> 00:00:51,960 Speaker 1: it hate. It was night. It was overcast, not too shabby, uh, 12 00:00:52,040 --> 00:00:54,800 Speaker 1: not eight s eighty seven degrees in human and sunny 13 00:00:54,840 --> 00:00:56,920 Speaker 1: like I thought it was going to be. And then 14 00:00:57,320 --> 00:00:59,560 Speaker 1: it rained and it rained quite a bit. When it 15 00:00:59,640 --> 00:01:02,440 Speaker 1: was sunny, was intense. It got on your skin real quick, 16 00:01:02,440 --> 00:01:04,839 Speaker 1: you know, you could feel it. But the overcast is nice. 17 00:01:05,280 --> 00:01:06,839 Speaker 1: You know they dropped the ball with the weather report, 18 00:01:06,880 --> 00:01:08,800 Speaker 1: because you know who didn't drop the ball pretty much 19 00:01:08,800 --> 00:01:11,720 Speaker 1: any been the offense today. Offense is definitely rolling in 20 00:01:11,720 --> 00:01:14,880 Speaker 1: this practice. The biggest news of the day obviously, and 21 00:01:14,920 --> 00:01:19,399 Speaker 1: we will get to the offense. Uh, probably the it 22 00:01:19,640 --> 00:01:24,680 Speaker 1: is not probably the first major uh injury of training camp, 23 00:01:25,040 --> 00:01:28,120 Speaker 1: and it involved Chad Thomas going down having to be 24 00:01:28,200 --> 00:01:33,839 Speaker 1: carted off. Um. He is at University Hospital. Uh, they're 25 00:01:33,920 --> 00:01:37,360 Speaker 1: checking him and he does have feeling in all his 26 00:01:37,480 --> 00:01:41,520 Speaker 1: extremities and whatnot. But a very very scary situation on 27 00:01:41,560 --> 00:01:44,119 Speaker 1: the field. Uh. The young man down on the field 28 00:01:44,160 --> 00:01:47,560 Speaker 1: for good ten minutes. The training staff just absolutely they 29 00:01:47,560 --> 00:01:50,640 Speaker 1: were right there, they were right on top of it. Uh, 30 00:01:50,680 --> 00:01:53,920 Speaker 1: and you know, our prayers and thoughts are with him. 31 00:01:53,960 --> 00:01:57,120 Speaker 1: But definitely it took a little something away from today's 32 00:01:57,120 --> 00:02:00,600 Speaker 1: practice after it happened, and obviously so yeah, the win 33 00:02:00,680 --> 00:02:03,280 Speaker 1: kind of came out of the sales um in that moment. 34 00:02:03,520 --> 00:02:06,080 Speaker 1: Anytime you have a serious injury, it's you know, it's 35 00:02:06,080 --> 00:02:08,239 Speaker 1: a little difficult to bounce back. Joel btni and talked 36 00:02:08,240 --> 00:02:09,920 Speaker 1: about it afterwards. You know, you just you kind of 37 00:02:09,919 --> 00:02:13,120 Speaker 1: have to, you know, snap yourself back into the right 38 00:02:13,280 --> 00:02:14,720 Speaker 1: frame of mind to be able to go play what 39 00:02:14,880 --> 00:02:17,639 Speaker 1: is a very physical sport that is the game of football, 40 00:02:17,680 --> 00:02:20,280 Speaker 1: and and you know, I mean it's unfortunately it is 41 00:02:20,440 --> 00:02:23,240 Speaker 1: part of the game and things like this do happen. 42 00:02:23,280 --> 00:02:24,880 Speaker 1: So you know, you you hope for the best, you 43 00:02:24,880 --> 00:02:27,720 Speaker 1: see a little prayer and uh, you know, stay positive. Yeah, 44 00:02:27,720 --> 00:02:30,480 Speaker 1: you knew it was serious when guys around him dropped 45 00:02:30,880 --> 00:02:33,720 Speaker 1: kind of to their knee right away, uh, and kind 46 00:02:33,720 --> 00:02:36,440 Speaker 1: of that. That's it's always the player's reaction when you 47 00:02:36,480 --> 00:02:39,000 Speaker 1: know an injury is more than just something minor. And 48 00:02:39,080 --> 00:02:40,600 Speaker 1: so I think we saw a couple of guys get 49 00:02:40,600 --> 00:02:43,200 Speaker 1: on their knee right away. They told the music to 50 00:02:43,280 --> 00:02:46,040 Speaker 1: stop and everything. It got pretty quiet out there. And 51 00:02:46,080 --> 00:02:47,919 Speaker 1: I think he's a guy that's been a popular guy 52 00:02:47,919 --> 00:02:50,960 Speaker 1: on the team because he's been really playing well, uh 53 00:02:51,000 --> 00:02:53,799 Speaker 1: this year after kind of a rough first year in Cleveland. 54 00:02:53,840 --> 00:02:58,519 Speaker 1: And I think the players on defense especially, they have 55 00:02:58,600 --> 00:03:00,720 Speaker 1: gotten to know him and ever spect did the progress 56 00:03:00,760 --> 00:03:02,840 Speaker 1: that he's made. So hopefully he can get back and 57 00:03:02,880 --> 00:03:05,600 Speaker 1: get back soon. I've I've never personally had a stinger. 58 00:03:05,639 --> 00:03:07,440 Speaker 1: I mean, I know you've played football, so I'm wondering 59 00:03:07,480 --> 00:03:09,840 Speaker 1: if if this is something you can come back quick from. 60 00:03:09,880 --> 00:03:12,800 Speaker 1: I mean, I just don't you don't usually hear guys 61 00:03:12,840 --> 00:03:14,639 Speaker 1: out for a while with stingers. I just know that 62 00:03:14,840 --> 00:03:17,919 Speaker 1: the symptoms can be very scary in the immediate aftermath 63 00:03:17,919 --> 00:03:19,919 Speaker 1: of it, and it could be confusing too, because it's 64 00:03:19,960 --> 00:03:21,680 Speaker 1: usually it's you know, it's a nervo issue thing, so 65 00:03:22,760 --> 00:03:25,160 Speaker 1: you could interpret it as one of many different things, 66 00:03:25,160 --> 00:03:26,880 Speaker 1: and it can be frightening. Anything that related to the neck, 67 00:03:26,919 --> 00:03:29,040 Speaker 1: of course, is frightening because you understand how the neck 68 00:03:29,080 --> 00:03:31,480 Speaker 1: works in your spinal cord and and you know the 69 00:03:31,480 --> 00:03:34,880 Speaker 1: potential for things like paralysis. So anything like that is 70 00:03:34,960 --> 00:03:37,360 Speaker 1: taken very seriously. But yeah, we'll have to see, you know, 71 00:03:37,400 --> 00:03:40,240 Speaker 1: first off, what the diagnosis, the official diagnosis is. I 72 00:03:40,240 --> 00:03:44,200 Speaker 1: think Freddie mentioned stinger as a possibility, rights. I think 73 00:03:44,240 --> 00:03:46,440 Speaker 1: that's the best, maybe the best thing you're you're kind 74 00:03:46,440 --> 00:03:48,360 Speaker 1: of hoping for in this regard. Yeah, and then and 75 00:03:48,400 --> 00:03:50,640 Speaker 1: then we'll see, you know, from there. That'll tell us 76 00:03:50,640 --> 00:03:52,880 Speaker 1: pretty much the severity of it and and how long 77 00:03:52,960 --> 00:03:55,360 Speaker 1: he will be out. But definitely, uh, you know, something 78 00:03:55,400 --> 00:03:58,520 Speaker 1: that you definitely take seriously anytime it's involved with the neck. Yeah, 79 00:03:58,600 --> 00:04:01,480 Speaker 1: I mean, it's right up there with the concussions, you know, 80 00:04:01,560 --> 00:04:04,760 Speaker 1: you just it depends on the guy. Maybe he is 81 00:04:04,800 --> 00:04:07,520 Speaker 1: back on Wednesday and Thursday, maybe he's out for the 82 00:04:07,520 --> 00:04:12,400 Speaker 1: week just for precautionary reasons. But definitely a blow to 83 00:04:12,440 --> 00:04:14,400 Speaker 1: a guy that was playing some pretty good football here. 84 00:04:14,560 --> 00:04:16,160 Speaker 1: I think we can all agree on. In the last 85 00:04:16,200 --> 00:04:18,200 Speaker 1: couple of weeks, yeah, I think he entered camp as 86 00:04:18,200 --> 00:04:21,040 Speaker 1: someone we thought was maybe had to fight his way 87 00:04:21,080 --> 00:04:22,440 Speaker 1: to get on the roster, and then after a week 88 00:04:22,520 --> 00:04:23,720 Speaker 1: or so, you're like, no, this guy is going to 89 00:04:23,760 --> 00:04:26,640 Speaker 1: be a rotational guy in this team. So it's it's 90 00:04:26,640 --> 00:04:29,799 Speaker 1: a matter of obviously that's the furthest from our concerns 91 00:04:29,880 --> 00:04:32,000 Speaker 1: right now. But yeah, I mean, hopefully he can get 92 00:04:32,000 --> 00:04:33,720 Speaker 1: back and get get back out there soon. But it 93 00:04:33,720 --> 00:04:37,000 Speaker 1: wouldn't surprise me if if you exercise some major caution 94 00:04:37,080 --> 00:04:39,400 Speaker 1: times on your side right now, I think he's proven 95 00:04:39,480 --> 00:04:41,520 Speaker 1: himself to this point. I think you can get him 96 00:04:41,520 --> 00:04:43,080 Speaker 1: to the point where just get ready for the season 97 00:04:43,120 --> 00:04:44,880 Speaker 1: if it's something that mine, or just get him ready 98 00:04:44,880 --> 00:04:47,560 Speaker 1: whenever he needs to get out there. You are listening 99 00:04:47,600 --> 00:04:51,320 Speaker 1: to the best podcast available on Jason Gibbs. He is 100 00:04:51,440 --> 00:04:55,640 Speaker 1: Nick Shook, he is Andrew Gribble and Uh, we had 101 00:04:55,640 --> 00:04:59,280 Speaker 1: the scary injury and practice kind of took a little 102 00:04:59,279 --> 00:05:01,080 Speaker 1: bit of a hit re on it a little bit 103 00:05:01,120 --> 00:05:04,719 Speaker 1: towards the end, but you mentioned it, Chook. Uh, the 104 00:05:04,760 --> 00:05:10,280 Speaker 1: wide receivers on full display and the quarterbacks were played 105 00:05:10,279 --> 00:05:14,080 Speaker 1: pretty well today as well. A good day for the offense. Yeah, definitely. 106 00:05:14,080 --> 00:05:17,320 Speaker 1: You know, I think the the product the result of 107 00:05:17,520 --> 00:05:19,960 Speaker 1: weeks of work and with you know, with Baker Mayfield 108 00:05:20,120 --> 00:05:22,760 Speaker 1: and the variety of receivers he's throwing two in tight ends, 109 00:05:22,760 --> 00:05:25,440 Speaker 1: and the offensive line is starting to establish some continuity. 110 00:05:25,480 --> 00:05:27,440 Speaker 1: Everything is starting to really come together and we're starting 111 00:05:27,440 --> 00:05:31,640 Speaker 1: to see the first like peaks of what this offense 112 00:05:31,680 --> 00:05:34,520 Speaker 1: could be be as a result of all that work 113 00:05:34,560 --> 00:05:36,080 Speaker 1: that they've put in. They just seemed to be on 114 00:05:36,120 --> 00:05:39,800 Speaker 1: the same page collectively that it's it flows well. I 115 00:05:39,800 --> 00:05:42,960 Speaker 1: mean that they make very few mistakes sure the defensive 116 00:05:43,240 --> 00:05:44,800 Speaker 1: you know, Myles Garrett to get around the edge and 117 00:05:44,839 --> 00:05:46,320 Speaker 1: cause Baker to fumble the ball at the back of 118 00:05:46,320 --> 00:05:47,440 Speaker 1: the end zone and they start with the ball in 119 00:05:47,440 --> 00:05:49,640 Speaker 1: around one yard line. You know, that was a tough 120 00:05:49,720 --> 00:05:52,080 Speaker 1: ask of Eric Coush to make that pull and try 121 00:05:52,120 --> 00:05:54,880 Speaker 1: and block Miles Garrett out in space. The only thing 122 00:05:54,920 --> 00:05:57,200 Speaker 1: harder than pulling as alignment is pulling to make a 123 00:05:57,240 --> 00:05:59,400 Speaker 1: block in open space because there's so much room for 124 00:05:59,440 --> 00:06:01,560 Speaker 1: a guy to go around you and you yourself are 125 00:06:01,640 --> 00:06:03,800 Speaker 1: moving and it's a little bit unfamiliar and you have 126 00:06:03,839 --> 00:06:06,240 Speaker 1: no protection so for him to go out there and 127 00:06:06,279 --> 00:06:08,520 Speaker 1: try to block Miles. He first got there and got engaged, 128 00:06:08,520 --> 00:06:10,960 Speaker 1: but Myles won't right around him eventually because Miles is 129 00:06:11,000 --> 00:06:14,640 Speaker 1: the freak athlete that he is. But overall, uh in. 130 00:06:15,240 --> 00:06:17,159 Speaker 1: You know, the defense had its nice moments, but this 131 00:06:17,279 --> 00:06:19,880 Speaker 1: offense is just really getting a good flow and they 132 00:06:19,960 --> 00:06:21,960 Speaker 1: found the end zone a lot in a red zone 133 00:06:22,000 --> 00:06:25,360 Speaker 1: period that was super productive. Baker Mayfield hit Retard Higgins 134 00:06:25,360 --> 00:06:27,120 Speaker 1: in a long touchdown pass. You had a couple of 135 00:06:27,120 --> 00:06:30,640 Speaker 1: long runs. Dontrell Hilliard had one of them. Um, it's 136 00:06:30,680 --> 00:06:32,840 Speaker 1: just it looks exactly where you want this offense to 137 00:06:33,240 --> 00:06:35,520 Speaker 1: look like as you get ready to go to Indianapolis 138 00:06:35,560 --> 00:06:38,120 Speaker 1: and play against another team. So that should be extremely encouraging. Yeah. 139 00:06:38,120 --> 00:06:40,960 Speaker 1: I thought there was one interesting moment when usually Freddie 140 00:06:41,000 --> 00:06:44,720 Speaker 1: Kitchens doesn't change the rules of the situation no matter 141 00:06:44,800 --> 00:06:47,400 Speaker 1: what happens. So say his offense throws a pick on 142 00:06:47,440 --> 00:06:49,160 Speaker 1: the first play, He's like, all right, you guys are 143 00:06:49,160 --> 00:06:51,160 Speaker 1: out and you move in. But there was a moment 144 00:06:51,160 --> 00:06:52,960 Speaker 1: where they did that. I thought it was that the 145 00:06:53,000 --> 00:06:54,880 Speaker 1: slant to Higgins that he took all the way the 146 00:06:54,960 --> 00:06:57,600 Speaker 1: end zone there, Like I think we think you were 147 00:06:57,920 --> 00:07:00,000 Speaker 1: let's just pretend you were down and keep running the office. 148 00:07:00,360 --> 00:07:01,880 Speaker 1: So that was it was almost the point where you're 149 00:07:01,880 --> 00:07:04,760 Speaker 1: having too many big plays to prevent getting the work 150 00:07:04,800 --> 00:07:06,520 Speaker 1: that you wanted to get in. And I thought that 151 00:07:06,520 --> 00:07:09,080 Speaker 1: that's an encouraging sign for the offense. But yeah, an 152 00:07:09,080 --> 00:07:12,880 Speaker 1: exceptional day from Richard Higgins. Uh and just I thought 153 00:07:12,920 --> 00:07:14,800 Speaker 1: dontro Hold would look very fast. I thought de Ernest 154 00:07:14,880 --> 00:07:17,080 Speaker 1: Johnson made a lot of plays today. I thought it 155 00:07:17,120 --> 00:07:19,400 Speaker 1: was just u there was a lot of different players 156 00:07:19,440 --> 00:07:22,480 Speaker 1: getting involved, and I think it was almost as if 157 00:07:22,480 --> 00:07:25,200 Speaker 1: they needed that game on Thursday to really find their 158 00:07:25,240 --> 00:07:28,560 Speaker 1: rhythm and now it's just kind of normal out here 159 00:07:28,560 --> 00:07:30,520 Speaker 1: in practice. Yeah, I think this is probably the first 160 00:07:30,600 --> 00:07:33,000 Speaker 1: or second practice where we didn't need the no huddle 161 00:07:33,080 --> 00:07:35,440 Speaker 1: for this offense to look fluid, which is really encouraging 162 00:07:35,480 --> 00:07:37,800 Speaker 1: as well, because that's using the offense looks has looked 163 00:07:37,800 --> 00:07:39,320 Speaker 1: at its best during this camp is in the no 164 00:07:39,400 --> 00:07:41,760 Speaker 1: huddle portion. But it's funny they scored so many times 165 00:07:41,760 --> 00:07:44,160 Speaker 1: and got so many big plays. Joe I was staying 166 00:07:44,200 --> 00:07:46,240 Speaker 1: on the sideline and I heard Joel Antonio at one 167 00:07:46,280 --> 00:07:49,800 Speaker 1: point wonder allowed He said, is the defense gonna cover today? 168 00:07:49,840 --> 00:07:51,640 Speaker 1: Are we just gonna run down the field all day. 169 00:07:51,800 --> 00:07:53,760 Speaker 1: I mean, because every time they scored, they're all trotting 170 00:07:53,800 --> 00:07:55,800 Speaker 1: down and sure enough to turn on and trotting back, 171 00:07:55,840 --> 00:07:57,720 Speaker 1: and the next groups coming out, and then first team 172 00:07:57,720 --> 00:07:58,920 Speaker 1: is gonna be back in the field again, and you 173 00:07:58,960 --> 00:08:00,560 Speaker 1: just keep racking up the arts. You got, you know, 174 00:08:00,600 --> 00:08:02,960 Speaker 1: a fifteen minute period, so you get more reps in 175 00:08:03,080 --> 00:08:05,160 Speaker 1: or more successful reps because he keeps scoring. So good 176 00:08:05,240 --> 00:08:08,200 Speaker 1: day for them. Good day. You mentioned the running backs 177 00:08:08,760 --> 00:08:12,960 Speaker 1: and Johnson was had a good day. Uh, there were 178 00:08:12,960 --> 00:08:16,200 Speaker 1: a number of guys making plays. Nick Chubb continues to 179 00:08:16,440 --> 00:08:18,280 Speaker 1: be in the right place at the right time, and 180 00:08:18,360 --> 00:08:21,400 Speaker 1: anytime the ball comes his way, he makes the play, 181 00:08:21,520 --> 00:08:24,840 Speaker 1: and then there's a play after the play, and he 182 00:08:25,000 --> 00:08:27,880 Speaker 1: just continues to impress. The whole catching out of the 183 00:08:27,880 --> 00:08:31,640 Speaker 1: backfield thing has become like second nature for him. Yeah, 184 00:08:31,680 --> 00:08:33,199 Speaker 1: I mean, I think he's poised for a big year. 185 00:08:33,320 --> 00:08:35,720 Speaker 1: That's my that's my biggest conclusion from this training campus. 186 00:08:35,760 --> 00:08:38,319 Speaker 1: He has been so involved and so active and looks 187 00:08:38,360 --> 00:08:43,360 Speaker 1: so good that he's really kind of just put it 188 00:08:43,360 --> 00:08:45,600 Speaker 1: all together and and really in a position to have 189 00:08:45,800 --> 00:08:48,000 Speaker 1: a big year if he can stay healthy and if 190 00:08:48,000 --> 00:08:49,960 Speaker 1: all if all the offense can stay healthy around him. 191 00:08:50,000 --> 00:08:52,640 Speaker 1: I think he's in a really good position. I also 192 00:08:52,679 --> 00:08:54,360 Speaker 1: think I've liked what I've seen from some of the 193 00:08:54,400 --> 00:08:57,800 Speaker 1: other rundbacks Hilio. What I mentioned. A guy that's practiced well. 194 00:08:57,800 --> 00:08:59,319 Speaker 1: I think I mentioned him in the last part is 195 00:08:59,559 --> 00:09:01,840 Speaker 1: Treyon Ray. It looks like a good running back, like 196 00:09:01,880 --> 00:09:04,640 Speaker 1: he looks like someone that can help you. And if 197 00:09:04,640 --> 00:09:08,160 Speaker 1: you're looking for potential competition for that third running back spot, 198 00:09:08,160 --> 00:09:11,040 Speaker 1: if you don't think you need another scap back, he's 199 00:09:11,160 --> 00:09:13,120 Speaker 1: probably right in line there because he has a bigger 200 00:09:13,200 --> 00:09:16,120 Speaker 1: running back, a potential short yardage guy as well. Perfect 201 00:09:16,160 --> 00:09:18,040 Speaker 1: example of that today was at the end of practice, 202 00:09:18,080 --> 00:09:20,079 Speaker 1: the final period, they got into a goal line situation 203 00:09:20,120 --> 00:09:22,360 Speaker 1: a couple of times and they pounded the ball Joe 204 00:09:22,400 --> 00:09:24,480 Speaker 1: Carriage lined a but fullback. Tray On Gray was at 205 00:09:24,559 --> 00:09:27,000 Speaker 1: running back and he just took the ball and ran 206 00:09:27,080 --> 00:09:28,680 Speaker 1: through a couple of guys. He didn't get in on 207 00:09:28,760 --> 00:09:30,640 Speaker 1: the first their second hand off, they got in on 208 00:09:30,760 --> 00:09:34,360 Speaker 1: third down. Uh, great work by the defense staying firm, 209 00:09:34,440 --> 00:09:36,240 Speaker 1: you know in a goal line situation. Pretty much was 210 00:09:36,440 --> 00:09:38,640 Speaker 1: putting together a full goal line stand before Grey got 211 00:09:38,640 --> 00:09:40,559 Speaker 1: in on third down. But that's the kind of guy 212 00:09:40,600 --> 00:09:43,400 Speaker 1: that you don't have on your roster outside of him. 213 00:09:43,679 --> 00:09:45,480 Speaker 1: And you know, like Gripple said, I think if you 214 00:09:45,520 --> 00:09:48,000 Speaker 1: want more balance and types of running backs and personnel 215 00:09:48,040 --> 00:09:50,760 Speaker 1: that you have, uh, he could definitely bring some value. 216 00:09:50,800 --> 00:09:53,000 Speaker 1: And so far he's proven nothing but good things. And 217 00:09:53,040 --> 00:09:55,079 Speaker 1: I think with you know, potentially more reps in these 218 00:09:55,080 --> 00:09:57,880 Speaker 1: preseason games and maybe in these joint practices upcoming against 219 00:09:57,920 --> 00:10:00,440 Speaker 1: the Colts, he could maybe create himself a out where 220 00:10:00,440 --> 00:10:02,440 Speaker 1: two weeks ago he wasn't on anybody's right ear because 221 00:10:02,440 --> 00:10:05,240 Speaker 1: he was hurt. So definitely a nice developing from him. 222 00:10:05,280 --> 00:10:07,240 Speaker 1: Can we talk a little bit about Carriage go back 223 00:10:07,240 --> 00:10:10,320 Speaker 1: to him over the weekend. An acquisition here for the 224 00:10:10,360 --> 00:10:14,240 Speaker 1: Browns and uh, a lot of pieces moving parts maybe 225 00:10:14,240 --> 00:10:17,959 Speaker 1: towards the back end of that roster. And a friend 226 00:10:18,000 --> 00:10:22,320 Speaker 1: of a friend of ours orson Charles unfortunately is out 227 00:10:22,360 --> 00:10:26,160 Speaker 1: looking in and bringing in some different players and whatnot. 228 00:10:26,200 --> 00:10:28,840 Speaker 1: But Carriage a guy they brought in and looked good 229 00:10:28,920 --> 00:10:31,319 Speaker 1: right away. Other than the fact that he might need 230 00:10:31,360 --> 00:10:33,199 Speaker 1: to have some work done on the helmet to keep 231 00:10:33,240 --> 00:10:36,600 Speaker 1: it on his head, everything else, it was a very 232 00:10:36,640 --> 00:10:38,720 Speaker 1: good looking day for him. Yeah, I mean, it's it's 233 00:10:38,720 --> 00:10:42,560 Speaker 1: interesting because he's now the first true fullback on your roster, 234 00:10:42,760 --> 00:10:45,839 Speaker 1: the first one since Danny Vitally from last year. I mean, 235 00:10:45,880 --> 00:10:48,040 Speaker 1: this is a this is a true fullback, you know, 236 00:10:48,720 --> 00:10:51,080 Speaker 1: number in the fourties and everything you know, he looks like, 237 00:10:51,320 --> 00:10:53,320 Speaker 1: doesn't You won't mistake this guy for a tight end. 238 00:10:53,679 --> 00:10:55,480 Speaker 1: And while Orson Charles has played a lot of fullback 239 00:10:55,520 --> 00:10:58,160 Speaker 1: in his career, he still was truly a tight ended 240 00:10:58,320 --> 00:11:00,880 Speaker 1: at heart, and the side of this eyes everything like that. 241 00:11:01,320 --> 00:11:03,800 Speaker 1: The interesting thing is what happened after practice. Freddy Kitchens 242 00:11:03,840 --> 00:11:06,320 Speaker 1: talking about it. I think it was both they like 243 00:11:06,440 --> 00:11:08,679 Speaker 1: having a fullback, but he could also see a roster 244 00:11:08,720 --> 00:11:11,880 Speaker 1: where he doesn't have a fullback. So it'll be on carriage, 245 00:11:11,920 --> 00:11:13,640 Speaker 1: I guess, and maybe some of the other roster groups 246 00:11:13,640 --> 00:11:16,040 Speaker 1: who you really want to keep, who you don't, where 247 00:11:16,080 --> 00:11:17,679 Speaker 1: it comes down to if they decide if they need 248 00:11:17,679 --> 00:11:19,480 Speaker 1: a fullback or not on this team. But he really 249 00:11:20,160 --> 00:11:22,080 Speaker 1: he's the only one now that Orson has gone, he 250 00:11:22,160 --> 00:11:23,920 Speaker 1: really is the only one on the roster that is 251 00:11:23,920 --> 00:11:27,280 Speaker 1: a true true fullback. And in typical fullback fashion, he 252 00:11:27,400 --> 00:11:31,520 Speaker 1: loses his helmet and continues blocking. Holy the pile went down, 253 00:11:31,520 --> 00:11:34,199 Speaker 1: and I'm looking around because I saw his helmet come off, 254 00:11:34,240 --> 00:11:36,280 Speaker 1: and I'm like, he did not stop. Is he at 255 00:11:36,280 --> 00:11:38,440 Speaker 1: the bottom of that pile without a helmet on? Currently? 256 00:11:38,559 --> 00:11:41,280 Speaker 1: I've seen that happen before and it's really nasty. So hey, 257 00:11:41,320 --> 00:11:43,200 Speaker 1: it's good that he got at the out of their unscathed, 258 00:11:43,200 --> 00:11:45,880 Speaker 1: and he demonstrates how bad he wants a job. I mean, 259 00:11:45,880 --> 00:11:48,040 Speaker 1: all these guys are battling, but leave it to a 260 00:11:48,080 --> 00:11:50,719 Speaker 1: fullback in the in the classical sense, who who goes 261 00:11:50,760 --> 00:11:52,680 Speaker 1: in there and clears a hole and loses his helmet 262 00:11:52,760 --> 00:11:54,120 Speaker 1: keeps fighting all the way at the end. All right, 263 00:11:54,920 --> 00:11:58,079 Speaker 1: With a guy like that, you know clearly it's about 264 00:11:58,120 --> 00:12:01,120 Speaker 1: his ability to block first and foremo. But then you've 265 00:12:01,120 --> 00:12:04,880 Speaker 1: got a factor in probably special teams. Can you play 266 00:12:04,880 --> 00:12:07,440 Speaker 1: on special teams? Can you be productive on special teams, 267 00:12:07,480 --> 00:12:10,240 Speaker 1: which if you want to make the team, Charles is 268 00:12:10,320 --> 00:12:13,200 Speaker 1: very valuable special teams exactly. And then the other thing 269 00:12:13,360 --> 00:12:15,760 Speaker 1: is when your numbers actually called to make a play 270 00:12:15,760 --> 00:12:18,880 Speaker 1: offensively that doesn't require a block, whether it's a catch, 271 00:12:19,480 --> 00:12:22,640 Speaker 1: whether it's a run. Can you make those kinds of plays? 272 00:12:22,640 --> 00:12:24,800 Speaker 1: I feel well, he did have some experience in Green 273 00:12:24,800 --> 00:12:27,760 Speaker 1: Bay where they actually did utilize a fullback in that 274 00:12:27,800 --> 00:12:30,240 Speaker 1: sense for many years. The guy like John Coon comes 275 00:12:30,280 --> 00:12:32,320 Speaker 1: to mind, and there's been others who have fit that mold, 276 00:12:32,360 --> 00:12:34,000 Speaker 1: so that could you could see him make a play. 277 00:12:34,080 --> 00:12:36,040 Speaker 1: We haven't seen it in camp yet because the opportunities 278 00:12:36,040 --> 00:12:37,760 Speaker 1: have been limited. He hasn't been here for very long. 279 00:12:37,840 --> 00:12:39,959 Speaker 1: But perhaps we see that in a preseason game. You know, 280 00:12:39,960 --> 00:12:41,400 Speaker 1: maybe you see something where you run a little play 281 00:12:41,400 --> 00:12:43,240 Speaker 1: action out of an offset I and then all of 282 00:12:43,240 --> 00:12:45,320 Speaker 1: a sudden, Joe Carriage leaks out into the flat and 283 00:12:45,320 --> 00:12:46,560 Speaker 1: you dump it off to him and he picks up 284 00:12:46,600 --> 00:12:48,079 Speaker 1: eight to ten yards and runs the guy over in 285 00:12:48,120 --> 00:12:50,320 Speaker 1: the process. I mean that just adds another dimension to 286 00:12:50,400 --> 00:12:52,920 Speaker 1: your team, and I think it's a little bit less 287 00:12:52,960 --> 00:12:55,080 Speaker 1: expected when it's a fullback as opposed to a tight 288 00:12:55,160 --> 00:12:57,600 Speaker 1: end lining up back there uh, when when it comes 289 00:12:57,600 --> 00:12:59,480 Speaker 1: to just looking at personnel and trying to predict what 290 00:12:59,520 --> 00:13:01,720 Speaker 1: they might want to do. And as we know, Freddie 291 00:13:01,760 --> 00:13:03,880 Speaker 1: Kittens loves to run play action and he loves to 292 00:13:03,920 --> 00:13:05,480 Speaker 1: go with multiple tight end sets, and if you could 293 00:13:05,480 --> 00:13:09,920 Speaker 1: get a fullback involved in these packages and just expand 294 00:13:09,960 --> 00:13:12,319 Speaker 1: further expand the opportunities for his offense, I think it 295 00:13:12,360 --> 00:13:15,280 Speaker 1: would be a good idea. But again, he emphasizes today 296 00:13:15,320 --> 00:13:17,120 Speaker 1: they're going to run the football first. They're going to 297 00:13:17,160 --> 00:13:19,400 Speaker 1: be a run first team, and I think a fullback 298 00:13:19,440 --> 00:13:20,960 Speaker 1: helps you out with that. You know, I might be 299 00:13:21,000 --> 00:13:23,240 Speaker 1: in in, you know, an old old school type in 300 00:13:23,240 --> 00:13:25,600 Speaker 1: this regard, but I've always been a fan of running 301 00:13:25,600 --> 00:13:27,280 Speaker 1: behind a fullback, a guy who can open a hole, 302 00:13:27,320 --> 00:13:29,080 Speaker 1: and so far he seemed to be the physical player 303 00:13:29,120 --> 00:13:31,320 Speaker 1: that could do that. All right, It's one thing we're up. 304 00:13:31,360 --> 00:13:34,320 Speaker 1: He's not here to make place. He's got one career 305 00:13:34,920 --> 00:13:37,960 Speaker 1: for zero yards, one catch for three yards. But I 306 00:13:38,000 --> 00:13:41,720 Speaker 1: feel like in the Freddie Kitchens offense, you're eligible for anything. 307 00:13:41,800 --> 00:13:45,360 Speaker 1: He could be three catches well and exactly, but if 308 00:13:45,400 --> 00:13:48,040 Speaker 1: your number is called, can you make the play? Right? 309 00:13:48,200 --> 00:13:50,600 Speaker 1: And I think that that's I think that will be 310 00:13:50,640 --> 00:13:52,680 Speaker 1: something to look out here over these next I could 311 00:13:52,679 --> 00:13:55,240 Speaker 1: be off base here, but your two biggest nemesis in 312 00:13:55,280 --> 00:13:59,640 Speaker 1: the division are big fullback teams. Yeah, the Steelers and Stealers. 313 00:13:59,640 --> 00:14:02,120 Speaker 1: A throws about Knicks and the Ravens with Patrick Rickard 314 00:14:02,400 --> 00:14:04,720 Speaker 1: and they had Kyle us Check too before that, and 315 00:14:04,760 --> 00:14:06,520 Speaker 1: he was an awesome fullback as well. So you just 316 00:14:06,640 --> 00:14:08,439 Speaker 1: check more of a playmaker than Nicks too. I mean, 317 00:14:08,520 --> 00:14:10,600 Speaker 1: but it's it's interesting. I mean, this is everyone talks 318 00:14:10,640 --> 00:14:12,400 Speaker 1: about a style of football that has played in the 319 00:14:12,400 --> 00:14:14,040 Speaker 1: a f C. North. Freddy Kitchens has brought that up 320 00:14:14,040 --> 00:14:15,760 Speaker 1: a lot. Baker Mayfield has brought that up when he 321 00:14:15,800 --> 00:14:17,480 Speaker 1: was asked if they could go no huddle all the time. 322 00:14:18,120 --> 00:14:20,680 Speaker 1: Maybe this is something where this guy is gonna be here. 323 00:14:20,760 --> 00:14:25,040 Speaker 1: Stay all right. So we we're gushing about the offense 324 00:14:25,360 --> 00:14:28,960 Speaker 1: for the last nine minutes. What did the defense do right? 325 00:14:29,040 --> 00:14:31,760 Speaker 1: What did they do wrong in today's practice? Shook, We'll 326 00:14:31,800 --> 00:14:33,200 Speaker 1: start with you. I think that what they did right 327 00:14:33,240 --> 00:14:36,600 Speaker 1: was the goal line situation. They were extremely physical. There 328 00:14:36,640 --> 00:14:38,840 Speaker 1: was a lot of beef up front. You Daniel Equality, 329 00:14:38,920 --> 00:14:42,360 Speaker 1: you had Devereaux Lawrence, you had Carl Davis. You had 330 00:14:42,360 --> 00:14:44,920 Speaker 1: a lot of hefty guys up there who were trying 331 00:14:44,920 --> 00:14:47,240 Speaker 1: to plug gaps. And I mean, you stand close enough there, 332 00:14:47,280 --> 00:14:49,920 Speaker 1: you can hear helmets and pads popping. And they were popping. 333 00:14:49,960 --> 00:14:52,520 Speaker 1: That was full go. That was man on man, my 334 00:14:52,560 --> 00:14:55,320 Speaker 1: will over your will. I'm gonna beat you. Move you 335 00:14:55,400 --> 00:14:57,440 Speaker 1: these two yards. I need to move you open enough room. 336 00:14:57,520 --> 00:14:59,760 Speaker 1: My running back is gonna probably run over me into 337 00:14:59,800 --> 00:15:03,080 Speaker 1: the end zone. Yeah, exactly. And they did that. They 338 00:15:03,080 --> 00:15:04,760 Speaker 1: did a really good job in that scenario and made 339 00:15:04,800 --> 00:15:06,160 Speaker 1: it really tough on the offense. So I think that 340 00:15:06,240 --> 00:15:09,440 Speaker 1: was probably what they did best today from their standpoint. 341 00:15:11,280 --> 00:15:13,480 Speaker 1: I mean, this could I mean, can't this just be 342 00:15:13,560 --> 00:15:15,760 Speaker 1: what the natural evolution of what this team is going 343 00:15:15,800 --> 00:15:17,720 Speaker 1: to be. I'm not saying it's a knock on the defense. 344 00:15:17,760 --> 00:15:20,720 Speaker 1: I mean there wasn't all these expectations and hype on 345 00:15:20,720 --> 00:15:23,240 Speaker 1: this team because of the defense. I mean, this is 346 00:15:23,240 --> 00:15:25,520 Speaker 1: all about what you did on offense in the off season, 347 00:15:25,600 --> 00:15:28,960 Speaker 1: and you know, early in camp the defense is getting 348 00:15:28,960 --> 00:15:31,480 Speaker 1: the better of the offense, and then the offensive started 349 00:15:31,520 --> 00:15:33,440 Speaker 1: really feeling more comfortable. And I think at the end 350 00:15:33,480 --> 00:15:36,080 Speaker 1: of the day, ultimately we think this team is probably 351 00:15:36,120 --> 00:15:38,080 Speaker 1: going to be ranked better in a lot of offensive 352 00:15:38,080 --> 00:15:40,640 Speaker 1: statistical categories and defense. Not saying it's a knock on 353 00:15:40,680 --> 00:15:42,400 Speaker 1: the defense, I think it's gonna be a pretty good defense. 354 00:15:42,760 --> 00:15:45,280 Speaker 1: But ultimately the reason that there's so much hype and 355 00:15:45,320 --> 00:15:47,120 Speaker 1: excitement is that people think this can be a top 356 00:15:47,120 --> 00:15:50,400 Speaker 1: five offense. Well, that too, and the way practice usually 357 00:15:50,480 --> 00:15:53,640 Speaker 1: just naturally tends to lean in this day and age 358 00:15:53,720 --> 00:15:55,680 Speaker 1: is the offense. Because when you come out there, what 359 00:15:55,720 --> 00:15:57,240 Speaker 1: are you trying to do. You're trying to execute your 360 00:15:57,240 --> 00:15:59,160 Speaker 1: game plan, or you want to work on things offensively 361 00:15:59,200 --> 00:16:01,560 Speaker 1: that you're gonna then take to the game. The defense 362 00:16:01,640 --> 00:16:03,840 Speaker 1: is doing that side of it as well, but because 363 00:16:03,960 --> 00:16:05,680 Speaker 1: you know, they are tackling a ground in some periods, 364 00:16:05,640 --> 00:16:09,000 Speaker 1: in all periods, the speed of it, just the tempo 365 00:16:09,160 --> 00:16:12,240 Speaker 1: of a practice when you're playing against your own teammates 366 00:16:12,320 --> 00:16:14,840 Speaker 1: is going to naturally lean a little bit in favor 367 00:16:14,880 --> 00:16:16,840 Speaker 1: of the offense. So I don't think there was anything 368 00:16:16,840 --> 00:16:18,840 Speaker 1: really wrong that the defense did today. Did they missed 369 00:16:18,840 --> 00:16:20,640 Speaker 1: a couple of coverages? Yeah, maybe, but I think it 370 00:16:20,680 --> 00:16:22,440 Speaker 1: was more of the offense making good plays and the 371 00:16:22,440 --> 00:16:25,000 Speaker 1: defense making big mistakes. So I think overall one of 372 00:16:25,000 --> 00:16:30,320 Speaker 1: the better practices we've seen so far defensively. What are 373 00:16:30,320 --> 00:16:35,120 Speaker 1: our expectations going into Indianapolis to see if you over 374 00:16:35,160 --> 00:16:38,200 Speaker 1: these two practices. Not so much the game. The game 375 00:16:38,280 --> 00:16:40,960 Speaker 1: is what what it is. It's the second preseason game, 376 00:16:41,280 --> 00:16:44,000 Speaker 1: But these two practices, what do we what do we expect? 377 00:16:44,040 --> 00:16:45,600 Speaker 1: What do we want to see? I think your big 378 00:16:45,640 --> 00:16:48,320 Speaker 1: test is how well can you play against this offensive line. 379 00:16:48,360 --> 00:16:50,520 Speaker 1: This is an offensive line that was remade in part 380 00:16:50,600 --> 00:16:53,920 Speaker 1: by acquiring two you know, first and second round picks 381 00:16:54,000 --> 00:16:56,120 Speaker 1: last year in Quentin Nelson, who was an All Pro 382 00:16:56,680 --> 00:16:59,360 Speaker 1: and Brandon Smith who also you know, played a big 383 00:16:59,360 --> 00:17:02,040 Speaker 1: part on this offensive line. Mark Lewinsky did a good 384 00:17:02,120 --> 00:17:04,840 Speaker 1: job at guard for them as well. They've got Ryan Kelly, 385 00:17:04,840 --> 00:17:08,080 Speaker 1: They've got Anthony Costanzo. That's a really good, really strong 386 00:17:08,240 --> 00:17:11,440 Speaker 1: five and uh and I think that it's gonna be 387 00:17:11,480 --> 00:17:13,479 Speaker 1: a great test for this front four that we're so 388 00:17:13,560 --> 00:17:17,200 Speaker 1: excited about, provided that they're all healthy and are participating. 389 00:17:17,200 --> 00:17:19,120 Speaker 1: But I mean, Myles Garrett off the edge, we all 390 00:17:19,119 --> 00:17:20,920 Speaker 1: know how good he is. But Anthony Costanzo has the 391 00:17:20,960 --> 00:17:23,080 Speaker 1: potential to be a top ten fifteen tackles, so this 392 00:17:23,160 --> 00:17:24,959 Speaker 1: canna be a good test for him. Then on the inside, 393 00:17:24,960 --> 00:17:27,040 Speaker 1: you've got that Quentin Nelson. Does he face off, does 394 00:17:27,080 --> 00:17:30,440 Speaker 1: he double team with Ryan Kelly on a Sheldon Richardson, 395 00:17:30,640 --> 00:17:32,800 Speaker 1: how's Larry Ogan joby play against whoever they have it 396 00:17:32,920 --> 00:17:35,359 Speaker 1: right guard, whether it's Glowinski or somebody else. And you know, 397 00:17:35,440 --> 00:17:37,280 Speaker 1: you look at those all those matchups, you want to 398 00:17:37,280 --> 00:17:39,879 Speaker 1: see how this front four really plays against that great 399 00:17:39,880 --> 00:17:41,880 Speaker 1: offensive line. I thought it was the best offensive line 400 00:17:41,960 --> 00:17:44,400 Speaker 1: or one of the top three in football last year. 401 00:17:44,440 --> 00:17:46,639 Speaker 1: So I think you start from there and then move outward. 402 00:17:46,640 --> 00:17:48,720 Speaker 1: We're not going to get the best test against the 403 00:17:48,760 --> 00:17:51,639 Speaker 1: defensive backfield because it's sounding like Andrew Luck is not 404 00:17:51,640 --> 00:17:53,560 Speaker 1: gonna practice, but you're gonna get a lot of that 405 00:17:53,600 --> 00:17:55,080 Speaker 1: and one on once too. That's the beauty of these 406 00:17:55,119 --> 00:17:57,840 Speaker 1: joint practices is you're going to see you know, Miles 407 00:17:57,840 --> 00:18:00,879 Speaker 1: get a shot against you know, a Costanzo or whoever 408 00:18:00,920 --> 00:18:03,960 Speaker 1: they're playing at tackle. You're gonna see that in those 409 00:18:04,000 --> 00:18:06,920 Speaker 1: individual and group sessions. While while Baker mayfields in seven 410 00:18:07,000 --> 00:18:09,240 Speaker 1: or seven over here against the cold secondary, that's what 411 00:18:09,240 --> 00:18:10,560 Speaker 1: you're gonna see over there. So I think you should 412 00:18:10,560 --> 00:18:12,400 Speaker 1: pay a lot of attention to the trenches this week. 413 00:18:12,440 --> 00:18:14,600 Speaker 1: I'd like to see Denzel Award versus t Y Hilton. 414 00:18:14,760 --> 00:18:16,639 Speaker 1: I think that's something he is. He's yet to go 415 00:18:16,680 --> 00:18:20,959 Speaker 1: up against him him in any games like that. I 416 00:18:21,000 --> 00:18:24,200 Speaker 1: think if there were any games where Denzel had issues 417 00:18:24,280 --> 00:18:26,320 Speaker 1: last year, it was maybe against the type of receiver 418 00:18:26,480 --> 00:18:28,680 Speaker 1: like a like a t Y Hilton. Antonio Brown in 419 00:18:28,760 --> 00:18:32,280 Speaker 1: that second gave gave gave Denzel some some problems in Pittsburgh. 420 00:18:32,320 --> 00:18:34,879 Speaker 1: So I'm just to see those kind of one on 421 00:18:34,880 --> 00:18:37,600 Speaker 1: one matchups and I I would just personally not like 422 00:18:37,760 --> 00:18:40,359 Speaker 1: to see him run rough shot on our defense like 423 00:18:40,359 --> 00:18:42,360 Speaker 1: he did two years ago. I also like I also 424 00:18:42,480 --> 00:18:44,720 Speaker 1: think a big test for this defense this year. The 425 00:18:44,720 --> 00:18:47,359 Speaker 1: biggest weakness that's had for years was guarding tight ends. 426 00:18:47,600 --> 00:18:49,880 Speaker 1: The Colts list two tight ends on their depth chart. 427 00:18:50,119 --> 00:18:52,000 Speaker 1: They have a really good one and eric kebron so 428 00:18:52,040 --> 00:18:53,520 Speaker 1: they like to use the tight ends. So this is 429 00:18:53,560 --> 00:18:56,880 Speaker 1: a big test for your linebackers that are hopefully gonna 430 00:18:56,920 --> 00:19:00,600 Speaker 1: be better in coverage, and another potential showcase opportunity for 431 00:19:00,680 --> 00:19:02,840 Speaker 1: Mack Wilson, who seems to like that part of the 432 00:19:02,920 --> 00:19:05,680 Speaker 1: job the best. What about on the offensive side of 433 00:19:05,720 --> 00:19:08,080 Speaker 1: the ball. What are keys this week? What do we 434 00:19:08,119 --> 00:19:11,120 Speaker 1: want to see? I mean, I'll be interesting to see 435 00:19:11,119 --> 00:19:14,000 Speaker 1: how involved O'Dell is going to be. Today was another 436 00:19:14,040 --> 00:19:16,480 Speaker 1: practice where he wasn't really out there all that much. 437 00:19:16,520 --> 00:19:18,960 Speaker 1: I wonder, I wonder if you're gonna show the full 438 00:19:19,760 --> 00:19:21,800 Speaker 1: Are we gonna show the full offense in in one 439 00:19:21,840 --> 00:19:24,639 Speaker 1: of these practices? And I think that's the full offense 440 00:19:24,680 --> 00:19:27,119 Speaker 1: when you have Odell and Jarvis out there, uh and 441 00:19:27,200 --> 00:19:29,880 Speaker 1: Richard as your number three wide receiver. We haven't seen 442 00:19:29,920 --> 00:19:32,720 Speaker 1: a ton of those looks in the last few practices. Uh, 443 00:19:32,800 --> 00:19:35,200 Speaker 1: So I'll be interesting to see when when you which 444 00:19:35,240 --> 00:19:37,320 Speaker 1: practice you take the most serious, whether it's the ones 445 00:19:37,359 --> 00:19:39,800 Speaker 1: they're the Thursday session, and then I want to see 446 00:19:39,840 --> 00:19:42,080 Speaker 1: what you really look like good on good and if 447 00:19:42,119 --> 00:19:44,360 Speaker 1: it is coming as easy as it did against Washington, 448 00:19:44,440 --> 00:19:47,119 Speaker 1: it's not going to but I would like to just 449 00:19:47,160 --> 00:19:50,800 Speaker 1: see continued success in that regard and and and hopefully 450 00:19:50,800 --> 00:19:53,200 Speaker 1: your offensive line holds up. And I think that's that's 451 00:19:53,200 --> 00:19:55,399 Speaker 1: the big question mark with this offense right now in general. 452 00:19:55,960 --> 00:19:58,800 Speaker 1: Uh And Baker has time or even a little bit 453 00:19:58,800 --> 00:20:00,960 Speaker 1: of time, you should be all right. This is a 454 00:20:01,000 --> 00:20:03,680 Speaker 1: defense that was very zone heavy and ben but don't 455 00:20:03,680 --> 00:20:05,399 Speaker 1: break last year. So I want to see how Baker 456 00:20:05,400 --> 00:20:07,440 Speaker 1: mayfield sits back and can you pick apart the zone? 457 00:20:07,480 --> 00:20:09,560 Speaker 1: Can you find his open guys. He's got all the 458 00:20:09,560 --> 00:20:11,399 Speaker 1: talent in the world with the receivers will be throwing 459 00:20:11,400 --> 00:20:13,480 Speaker 1: too to be able to do that. So perhaps this 460 00:20:13,520 --> 00:20:15,080 Speaker 1: is the first time we get to see this offense 461 00:20:15,119 --> 00:20:17,879 Speaker 1: really unleashed. But beyond that, um, I also want to 462 00:20:17,880 --> 00:20:20,320 Speaker 1: see how well the interior linemen get to second level. 463 00:20:20,359 --> 00:20:22,959 Speaker 1: Because Darius Leonard is a tackling machine. He was all 464 00:20:22,960 --> 00:20:24,600 Speaker 1: over the field as a rookie last year, and it's 465 00:20:24,760 --> 00:20:27,680 Speaker 1: it's vitally important that when you double team the nose 466 00:20:27,760 --> 00:20:29,959 Speaker 1: or whoever is on the interior, that you get one 467 00:20:30,000 --> 00:20:32,200 Speaker 1: of those guys off the second level and you make 468 00:20:32,240 --> 00:20:34,480 Speaker 1: sure that none of those linebackers are clean on every play. 469 00:20:34,480 --> 00:20:36,200 Speaker 1: Otherwise you're not gonna move the football all because you're 470 00:20:36,200 --> 00:20:37,560 Speaker 1: gonna be able to run the ball because you're gonna 471 00:20:37,560 --> 00:20:40,240 Speaker 1: be there to make the tackle every time. So very important, 472 00:20:40,320 --> 00:20:42,080 Speaker 1: and and it will also be a good barometer of 473 00:20:42,080 --> 00:20:45,280 Speaker 1: where Eric cushes as as the starting right guard. Can 474 00:20:45,359 --> 00:20:48,120 Speaker 1: he when when they're ace blocking on this nose or whatever, 475 00:20:48,240 --> 00:20:50,520 Speaker 1: can he or if it's the center, if it's JC Treader, 476 00:20:50,560 --> 00:20:52,640 Speaker 1: depending on who's got the leverage, can one of those 477 00:20:52,680 --> 00:20:55,200 Speaker 1: two break off and get to the linebacker successfully enough 478 00:20:55,280 --> 00:20:58,040 Speaker 1: for you to move the football on the ground. Any 479 00:20:58,119 --> 00:21:01,440 Speaker 1: final thoughts, I mean, obviously kickers and putters, it's a 480 00:21:01,440 --> 00:21:03,919 Speaker 1: big week for both of them that this will be 481 00:21:04,119 --> 00:21:08,920 Speaker 1: three days of stressful environment situations, so it'll be good 482 00:21:08,960 --> 00:21:13,520 Speaker 1: to see how they perform in that situation. But I mean, 483 00:21:13,640 --> 00:21:16,320 Speaker 1: everything else, it's full go and let's see where we're 484 00:21:16,359 --> 00:21:18,560 Speaker 1: at against a team with the expectations I'm just more 485 00:21:18,560 --> 00:21:20,960 Speaker 1: interesting to see what really does happen if there's a fight, 486 00:21:21,800 --> 00:21:24,240 Speaker 1: because we saw what happened when there was a fight 487 00:21:24,320 --> 00:21:26,879 Speaker 1: at this practice that everyone ran. So if there's a 488 00:21:26,880 --> 00:21:30,679 Speaker 1: fight at this practice, do both teams run or is 489 00:21:30,680 --> 00:21:32,840 Speaker 1: it just gonna be the Browns who have that intto 490 00:21:32,880 --> 00:21:35,640 Speaker 1: the policy that they're gonna stop practicing and they're gonna run. 491 00:21:35,720 --> 00:21:38,960 Speaker 1: So we're like with the Browns stop just start running 492 00:21:38,960 --> 00:21:41,880 Speaker 1: in the Colts just watch? Or are both coaches in 493 00:21:41,880 --> 00:21:46,120 Speaker 1: on this as a disciplinary reason? Like that's I'm very 494 00:21:46,119 --> 00:21:49,360 Speaker 1: curious because I mean, I was saying this earlier today 495 00:21:49,400 --> 00:21:51,479 Speaker 1: that the teams aren't gonna be tackling to the ground, 496 00:21:51,920 --> 00:21:54,720 Speaker 1: and that to me can maybe lead to even more 497 00:21:55,560 --> 00:21:59,120 Speaker 1: hostility towards each other because there's different interpretations of how 498 00:21:59,160 --> 00:22:02,120 Speaker 1: far is too far with the physicality. So it's gonna 499 00:22:02,160 --> 00:22:05,040 Speaker 1: take a lot of self control to avoid some of 500 00:22:05,040 --> 00:22:09,400 Speaker 1: these kind of scraps. But you got guys out there something. 501 00:22:09,440 --> 00:22:13,480 Speaker 1: It just feels inevitable in these kind of scenarios. You know, 502 00:22:13,560 --> 00:22:15,480 Speaker 1: for the for the team's sake, you hope it doesn't 503 00:22:15,480 --> 00:22:17,440 Speaker 1: happen so you can practice in a normal fashion and 504 00:22:17,520 --> 00:22:19,600 Speaker 1: not have to stop anything. But when there's this many 505 00:22:19,600 --> 00:22:22,040 Speaker 1: guys out there, this many guys fighting for jobs, and 506 00:22:22,119 --> 00:22:24,760 Speaker 1: also guys going up against guys they've never seen in 507 00:22:24,800 --> 00:22:27,760 Speaker 1: their life before, and and you know, think that they're 508 00:22:27,800 --> 00:22:30,480 Speaker 1: getting rubbed, getting hit one way that they shouldn't be. 509 00:22:30,480 --> 00:22:32,720 Speaker 1: I mean, there's just there's a lot of ingredients there 510 00:22:33,320 --> 00:22:36,960 Speaker 1: for some scraps and and honestly, there haven't been too many. 511 00:22:36,960 --> 00:22:38,960 Speaker 1: And the two joint practices I've been a part of 512 00:22:39,000 --> 00:22:40,960 Speaker 1: with the Browns, there haven't been too too many. But 513 00:22:41,000 --> 00:22:42,920 Speaker 1: there's some moments where it gets a little tense. I 514 00:22:42,920 --> 00:22:44,680 Speaker 1: can just think about it now, like just think about 515 00:22:44,720 --> 00:22:48,600 Speaker 1: the mental part of it, where you're this guy. First off, 516 00:22:48,640 --> 00:22:50,040 Speaker 1: he's done of my team. I don't know it, might 517 00:22:50,040 --> 00:22:52,119 Speaker 1: have no relationship with him. Secondly, he's getting in my 518 00:22:52,160 --> 00:22:53,639 Speaker 1: neck a little bit. Maybe you know, maybe we're in 519 00:22:53,680 --> 00:22:55,480 Speaker 1: the trenches a little bit and I'm I'm blocking he's 520 00:22:55,480 --> 00:22:57,240 Speaker 1: trying to get my hands off of me and gets 521 00:22:57,280 --> 00:22:58,919 Speaker 1: to my neck, or he's doing something I don't like. 522 00:22:59,560 --> 00:23:03,520 Speaker 1: After a while, it's hot enough out there, might might 523 00:23:03,600 --> 00:23:07,320 Speaker 1: be taking a shot. Yeah, I might. I might take 524 00:23:07,440 --> 00:23:10,120 Speaker 1: you to the ground and we might tussle a little bit. 525 00:23:10,160 --> 00:23:12,359 Speaker 1: I mean, that's that's pretty common, so I wouldn't be 526 00:23:12,359 --> 00:23:14,480 Speaker 1: surprising if that then started a bigger fight. But the 527 00:23:14,480 --> 00:23:18,240 Speaker 1: big thing is here, I think is Freddie Kitchens punishes 528 00:23:18,320 --> 00:23:21,240 Speaker 1: these players when they get into a fight because they 529 00:23:21,240 --> 00:23:23,520 Speaker 1: are all on the same team. Not because of we're 530 00:23:23,560 --> 00:23:27,080 Speaker 1: fighting each other, but because we're practicing penalties. We're making 531 00:23:27,119 --> 00:23:29,399 Speaker 1: mistakes while practicing with each other. If you're practicing against 532 00:23:29,400 --> 00:23:31,920 Speaker 1: another team and if say they incite something, then you're 533 00:23:31,920 --> 00:23:34,200 Speaker 1: defending your team, right, So maybe he defends his team 534 00:23:34,200 --> 00:23:36,240 Speaker 1: and it's not a disciplinary thing but a matter of 535 00:23:36,680 --> 00:23:39,000 Speaker 1: you know, we gotta go back each other up. I 536 00:23:39,040 --> 00:23:42,240 Speaker 1: almost wonder if these guys are too tired, like you 537 00:23:42,280 --> 00:23:44,720 Speaker 1: always see these fights early in camp when there's a 538 00:23:44,720 --> 00:23:47,680 Speaker 1: lot more energy. You don't see these fights like later 539 00:23:47,760 --> 00:23:50,000 Speaker 1: in camp, Like it's always the first few days and 540 00:23:50,040 --> 00:23:54,359 Speaker 1: pads where guys are still not like just aching and 541 00:23:54,359 --> 00:23:56,720 Speaker 1: and asleep at any moment they're not on the field, 542 00:23:56,840 --> 00:23:58,960 Speaker 1: Like maybe that plays into this and maybe not being 543 00:23:59,000 --> 00:24:01,600 Speaker 1: his hostile as we think it might be. Maybe it 544 00:24:01,680 --> 00:24:04,000 Speaker 1: was last week, It might be able brutal camp. I 545 00:24:04,040 --> 00:24:06,960 Speaker 1: will say it really the number of guys passed out 546 00:24:06,960 --> 00:24:09,800 Speaker 1: on the couches downstairs has gone up significantly in the 547 00:24:09,880 --> 00:24:15,720 Speaker 1: last few days. I saw couches in the side together. Yeah, 548 00:24:15,800 --> 00:24:18,720 Speaker 1: oh yeah, chairs pushed together to make like makeshift beds. Yeah, 549 00:24:18,760 --> 00:24:20,879 Speaker 1: the whole nine there. They might be seeing every position 550 00:24:20,880 --> 00:24:26,440 Speaker 1: group getting r V next year. It is I think. 551 00:24:26,960 --> 00:24:29,400 Speaker 1: I think it has been a long camp. It will 552 00:24:29,440 --> 00:24:32,240 Speaker 1: be interesting to see. And all it takes is one 553 00:24:32,280 --> 00:24:37,960 Speaker 1: guy interpreting someone's move as hostile and yeah, yeah, that's camp. 554 00:24:38,000 --> 00:24:40,360 Speaker 1: And Freddie said it today. Freddie said they can fight 555 00:24:40,400 --> 00:24:42,120 Speaker 1: if they want to. They know what's going to happen 556 00:24:42,160 --> 00:24:46,119 Speaker 1: if they do right. So I guess we'll wait and 557 00:24:46,160 --> 00:24:48,440 Speaker 1: see and see how that all plays out. 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