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Speaker 1: Ron An Aian John are you there? I actually Joe, Joe.

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Speaker 2: We'll go with that, Joe John, right, anything but late

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Speaker 2: for supper. They used to say, right, Joe, yeah, call

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Speaker 2: me right, so yeah right. I can tell you Betty

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Speaker 2: and Betty where you call me? You call me the

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Speaker 2: car Doctor.

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Speaker 3: I got in and I was ready to go forward.

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Speaker 3: I put in drive and all my gauges flashed on

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Speaker 3: and off. It would run perfect during this time.

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Speaker 2: Do all the warning indicators and lights and gauges react

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Speaker 2: when this happens.

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Speaker 1: Welcome to the radio home of ron An Aium The

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Speaker 1: Car Doctor. Since nineteen ninety one, this is where car

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Speaker 1: owners the world overturned to for their definitive opinion on

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Speaker 1: automotive repair. If your mechanics giving you a busy signal,

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Speaker 1: pick up the phone and call in. The garage doors.

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Speaker 2: Are open, but I am here to take your call

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Speaker 2: at eight five five five six ninety nine hundred and

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Speaker 2: now he I don't know what I want to talk

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Speaker 2: about today. What do I want to talk about today? Intuition?

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Speaker 2: I want to talk about mechanics, intuition. I haven't talked

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Speaker 2: about it in a while. I you know, sometimes you

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Speaker 2: just look at a car and you know, and you go,

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Speaker 2: it's this, but sometimes you do that and you're wrong.

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Speaker 2: So I've learned if experience has taught me anything, it's

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Speaker 2: have your intuition, trust your gut, but do your tests.

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Speaker 2: And that was the dilemma. I was faced with it

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Speaker 2: a very busy week at the shop this week that

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Speaker 2: I had this one jeep that you know, I looked

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Speaker 2: at it. I said, it's this. I know it's this.

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Speaker 2: I just I don't know why. It's funny, right, It's

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Speaker 2: just like those hunches, you know, when you turn around

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Speaker 2: and every once in a while ago, hey, I'll play

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Speaker 2: the lottery, and you know, and then sometimes you win

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Speaker 2: and sometimes you say, why did I play the lottery?

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Speaker 2: It was just a guess. But I don't know. Automotive

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Speaker 2: hunches just they kind of grow on me. They talk

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Speaker 2: to me a little bit. I had this twenty eight

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Speaker 2: team jeep Wrangler that the customer presented to us, and

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Speaker 2: it was, you know, do the services do all the

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Speaker 2: driveline fluids, et cetera, and the battery keeps going dead.

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Speaker 2: It's very important when you're diagnosing something to have that

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Speaker 2: conversation at the counter and if your mechanic isn't doing that.

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Speaker 2: And if you're a mechanic and you're not doing that, man,

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Speaker 2: you're missing half. You're missing half the diagnosis right there.

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Speaker 2: I talked to Rich and I listened very carefully, you know,

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Speaker 2: I just sat and stood sad, same thing, and listened

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Speaker 2: to everything he had to say about this battery going dead.

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Speaker 2: This battery has been going dead for about three years now,

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Speaker 2: which I I don't I didn't eve want to get into.

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Speaker 2: I don't know how you could live with a battery

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Speaker 2: going dead for three years. But I guess you know,

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Speaker 2: this is the toy. He doesn't drive it that often.

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Speaker 2: You know, it's it's it's it's his jeep. And he's

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Speaker 2: got all kinds of things on. He's got air horns

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Speaker 2: one of the things that he added on about three

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Speaker 2: years ago was the radio. I don't know what it

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Speaker 2: is about aftermarket radios. I find so few guys can

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Speaker 2: actually wire them correctly, and I think they're just thrilled

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Speaker 2: that they get them to light up. Hey, that works right,

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Speaker 2: and you know that must be it. It's working okay, yeah,

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Speaker 2: but is it wired correctly? Is it tied in for

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Speaker 2: for the radio itself. So you know, standard diagnostic routine

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Speaker 2: and you know we can have the conversation. I've tried

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Speaker 2: the thermal imager in thermal imaging for a heat source works.

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Speaker 2: Sometimes not in this application. Sometimes you just go old school, right,

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Speaker 2: you go through your basics. I pulled codes, I you know,

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Speaker 2: full disclosure. I will probably replace the battery on Monday,

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Speaker 2: just because it's it's creeping up on four years old.

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Speaker 2: But for the purpose of our test this, this battery tested good.

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Speaker 2: So I went through an underhood fuse box. Chrysler's conveniently.

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Speaker 2: You know, they locate the tip them or the underhood

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Speaker 2: That's how often tipums go bad. And as I'm pulling fuses,

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Speaker 2: the problem within a half hour. I know it's one

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Speaker 2: of these four fuses, one of these circuits that's doing it.

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Speaker 2: To me. The problem was, you know, I'm looking at

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Speaker 2: was the fuse went out and fed the intrusion sensors.

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Speaker 2: Let's think about that for a minute. What in God's

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Speaker 2: In the back of my mind, I'm going it's got

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Speaker 2: to be anti theft, but it's the wording. I turned

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Speaker 2: to what has really become my definitive source for technical

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Speaker 2: the Opus IVS hotline. And I got to talk to

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Speaker 2: Robert again, and I love talking to Robbie's he's he's

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Speaker 2: a diehard Jeep Chrysler guy. He does a bunch of

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Speaker 2: he explained to me, he said, well, an intrusion sensor

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Speaker 2: for European. And it turns out that the aftermarket sources

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Speaker 2: this one particular section that I was working on. And

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Speaker 2: not accurate. Robbie was great, as Opus always is. They

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Speaker 2: draw I don't say draw issue. It's sort of standard

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Speaker 2: to work around that. Bottom line, it's the radio. Every

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Speaker 2: time would diminish and go down and get down to

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Speaker 2: less than fifty millions, because I'm looking for less than

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Speaker 2: fifty right, widgets For those of you that don't want

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Speaker 2: to be technical, I'm looking for less than fifty widgets,

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Speaker 2: all right. Fifty widgets is a slow enough trickle of

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Speaker 2: electrical energy, a slow enough trickle out of the garden

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Speaker 2: So come Monday, that vehicle's parked outside right now at

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Speaker 2: the shop. Come Monday. When I get into it Monday

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Speaker 2: morning and it starts up, I know it's the radio circuit.

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Speaker 2: It's either going to be how that radio is wired

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Speaker 2: Is the owner had to stop by late on Friday.

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Speaker 2: I said, Hey, called him on home and say what.

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Speaker 4: Do you hit?

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Speaker 2: I'm home, Hey, you got ten minutes. Come over to

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Speaker 2: walked them through electronics and electrical draw one on one

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Speaker 2: because it's very important, right it is. It's it's important

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Speaker 2: that you know, if the if the vehicle owner, if

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Speaker 2: the customer understands what you're trying to do, it makes

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Speaker 2: conversations at the counter about what it took and the

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Speaker 2: Andrews don't fall off, you know, they don't fall off

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Speaker 2: the back of the truck. All right. So he came

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Speaker 2: over and we went through the whole thing, and I said,

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Speaker 2: did the radio go in and when did the battery

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Speaker 2: start going dead? Got an email last night, right, silly

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Speaker 2: me working working late on a you know, after hours,

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Speaker 2: which you know, I just want to fix cars. Hey, Ron,

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Speaker 2: I think you're right. Look at the look at the report.

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Speaker 2: Rich is great, right, so organized, Such a pleasure to

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Speaker 2: Boom boom, boom, boom boom. You know, about three years

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Speaker 2: ago he had the radio installed in whatever the year,

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Speaker 2: whatever the time of the month it was, whatever the

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Speaker 2: time of the year it was, it was, it was

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Speaker 2: I think it was November. Between November and January, he

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Speaker 2: had five jumpstart road calls from Triple A because in

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Speaker 2: February he bought his own jump box because Triple A

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Speaker 2: wouldn't come out anymore because they've been out so many times.

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Speaker 2: And he realized there's a problem, and he said, look,

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Speaker 2: the radio was installed in November and ever since then,

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Speaker 2: ever since. So Monday, when that starts, I'm going to

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Speaker 2: either rewire the radio or tell him to replace the radio.

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Speaker 2: And the point begins, and the point becomes that listening

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Speaker 2: at the counter, that five minute conversation that you have

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Speaker 2: at the counter of insightful, meaningful conversation, the where, the when,

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Speaker 2: the how. It's like high school English. I think of

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Speaker 2: mister Sterling, my English teacher from Mama High School so

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Speaker 2: many years ago. George was great. George always taught when

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Speaker 2: we're talking creative writing. When we started talking about writing

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Speaker 2: as if we were doing newspaper editorial work, because that's

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Speaker 2: what they taught fifty years ago. And he said, who

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Speaker 2: what we're winning? How? Who what we're winning? Hew? And

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Speaker 2: I've always remembered that because that's really what you're doing

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Speaker 2: when you're fixing a car. Who what we're winning?

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Speaker 3: How?

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Speaker 2: When did it happen? Why did it happen? How did

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Speaker 2: it happen? Where did it happen? The details? Get into

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Speaker 2: the minutia, Get into it quick, get out, get your information,

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Speaker 2: move on to your diagnosis. That's what I did. Rich

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Speaker 2: has got a bad radio. You watch at least I

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Speaker 2: know it's the radio circuit eight five five five six

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Speaker 2: zero nine nine zero zero again eight five five five

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Speaker 2: six zero nine nine zero zero. I'm running inding in

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Speaker 2: the car, doctor. I will be back right after this.

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Speaker 2: Don't go away. We're gonna open the road's doors wide open.

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Speaker 5: When you get keep Ron's number handy eight five five

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Speaker 5: five six zero nine nine zero zero for when you

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Speaker 5: really need advice on your car.

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Speaker 2: Here's Rob Hey, let's open the garage doors. Let's go

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Speaker 2: to Gary and Maine fourteen buy Lacrosse Gary. Welcome to

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Speaker 2: the car, doctor, Sir Ronning the Indian, at your service.

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Speaker 2: How can I help hi?

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Speaker 4: Rob, Yes, sir, talk to you.

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Speaker 2: Thank you? What can I do for you?

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Speaker 4: Oh yeah, that's okay. I've got to twenty fourteen do

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Speaker 4: a quick cross, right, and it's got about one hundred

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Speaker 4: and ten thousand on it, all right. And I was

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Speaker 4: the throttle pressure adjustment was out years ago. That's exactly

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Speaker 4: It keeps trying to shift between gears and if you accelerate,

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Speaker 2: Four cylinder or six cylinder Gary.

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Speaker 4: Thick cylinder b s all right?

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Speaker 2: Any any dashboard warning lights.

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Speaker 4: On not A never had a code, all right?

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Speaker 2: And you know service history on trans fluid.

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Speaker 4: I just had the trans fluid changed it. I think

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Speaker 4: it was about ninety two thousand something like that, all right.

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Speaker 2: Was the was the problem? Was the problem there prior? Or?

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Speaker 2: You just did it out of maintenance?

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Speaker 4: Oh no, I well, I was thinking maybe it needed

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Speaker 2: All right. Do you know did they do all of

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Speaker 4: All I know is I took him in. I took

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Speaker 2: So the problem was there. So the problem was there

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Speaker 4: Yes, okay, so.

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Speaker 2: As long we got to be honest, right, that was

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Speaker 4: Yeah, it's probably got about eightywhere between fifteen twenty thousand

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Speaker 2: Why did you wait so long? Just out of curiosity?

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Speaker 4: I wait so long to oil or no?

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Speaker 2: Well that's number one. Not that I think that would

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Speaker 2: But you know, if the problem was happening at ninety

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Speaker 2: it almost condemns the transmission. At that point, you're making

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Speaker 2: You're just making it harder on yourself. So that being said,

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Speaker 2: all right, you know, is this truly a transmission? Hard shift?

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Speaker 2: Is this a shutter from the torque converter? Does it?

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Speaker 2: Do it in every gear? If you manually shift and

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Speaker 2: hold this in third gear? Because you can manually shift,

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Speaker 2: this trends right, you can shift it into a third

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Speaker 4: If you hold it shifting, no change? Yeah, all right,

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Speaker 4: I mean it does fine.

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Speaker 2: It does fine, right, And if you if you put

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Speaker 4: I've never tried that. I know. If I just keep

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Speaker 2: It, all right. So it's you know, there's gonna be

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Speaker 2: at duty cycle of lock up when they apply the converter.

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Speaker 2: Inside that torque converter is a centrifugal clutch. You ever

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Speaker 2: with a centrifical clutch on it? Oh yeah, right, So

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Speaker 2: so you know the principle. The concept is the same.

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Speaker 2: a certrifical clutch, right, the shoes came out and locked

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Speaker 2: friction material inside that converter are glazed, if they're hard,

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Speaker 2: if they're shiny, if the fluid went too long in

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Speaker 2: between changes and the fluid was overheated and the converter

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Speaker 2: got overheated, now it starts to shudder and shake. If

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Speaker 2: that's what it is, all right, I'll leave you with

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Speaker 2: this last thought, And for everybody else out there. I

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Speaker 2: know a lot of manufacturers say transfluid is lifetime, and

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Speaker 2: that's true. It is lifetime for the lifetime of the unit.

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Speaker 2: Because they don't tell you what mile is. They don't

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Speaker 2: say lifetime is equal to tour one thousand miles. They

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Speaker 2: just say lifetime. Never change it. I'm still a believer

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Speaker 2: in the majority of fluids out there, especially transmission fluid

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Speaker 2: especially if it's gone through a lot of highway, especially

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Speaker 2: It's still just good solid maintenance to help promote longevity

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Speaker 2: of vehicle. It doesn't always work, all right, Gary, Sometimes

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Speaker 2: it comes back to bite you. I changed the trans

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Speaker 2: fluid on my suburban twice between zero and fifty five

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Speaker 2: thousand miles and it's still puked the transit fifty five.

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Speaker 2: It happens, you know. But in all fairness to the

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Speaker 2: trans and GM, what failed on that transmission wasn't the

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Speaker 2: torque converter, or wasn't friction related the planetary cluster, the

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Speaker 2: hard metal planetaries, the internal needle bearing self destructed because

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Speaker 2: that's what they were prone to do. So, but at any event,

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Speaker 2: those are the things you got to look for. That's

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Speaker 2: how I would test it. You know, we could go

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Speaker 2: deeper with a scan tool, but I don't think we'll

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Speaker 2: have to. The dealership will take a look at it.

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Speaker 2: But I appreciate the call. Gary. Good luck to you,

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Speaker 2: and thanks for listening. I'm Ronning Ady and the car doctor.

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Speaker 2: Eight five five five six zero nine nine zero zero.

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Speaker 2: I'll be back right after this.

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Speaker 6: Don't go away.

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Speaker 2: It's not convince that she was they and then my

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Speaker 2: desinal hand she woke up until me by the hands.

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Speaker 5: She's going to.

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Speaker 1: Love me and my Chevy Van, and that's.

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Speaker 6: All right with me.

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Speaker 2: And I see that Iowa is coming in loud and

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Speaker 2: clear Bill from Iowa's back thirty eight Chevy some questions

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Speaker 2: on any freeze? Bill, Welcome back to the car doctor, sir.

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Speaker 2: How can I help you this week?

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Speaker 5: Bill over wonder what kind of an or freeze should

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Speaker 5: be used in the old vintage cars? And I got

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Speaker 5: vintage tractors.

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Speaker 2: So that's still a stock engine per se. Right, it

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Speaker 2: doesn't have any newer technology in it, old gaskets, that

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Speaker 5: That is correct.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, conventional green as we call it, you know, I

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Speaker 2: mean yeah, I think you're fine. I you know, listen,

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Speaker 2: put it to you this way. I've been running conventional

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Speaker 2: green in the hot rod. I haven't changed it. You know,

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Speaker 2: there are there is conversation out there. I know my

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Speaker 2: friend Jimmy is running what they call waterless coolant in

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Speaker 2: his sixty six Shelby Mustang. I guess I'm not allowed

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Speaker 2: to say Mustang, but as Shelby GTA to be grammatically correct,

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Speaker 2: I don't know. I haven't looked that much at the technology.

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Speaker 2: I'm not that worried about it. I'm still going to

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Speaker 2: change it on a regular basis anyway, so it doesn't matter,

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Speaker 2: you know, I feel like these cars got to be

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Speaker 2: old running conventional green coolant. Why why play with what's working?

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Speaker 2: So to speak? Right that thirty eight SHIV. He's been

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Speaker 5: I have the original radiator right steal in that car,

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Speaker 5: right right, Well, I have a heater, a heater that

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Speaker 2: Car, right, Yeah, don't.

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Speaker 5: I don't have show no leaks.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I don't think there's a need to do any

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Speaker 2: more than that, Bill, I really don't.

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Speaker 5: And I have the conventional temperature gauge in the car,

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Speaker 5: a hot day, it'll be lucky to get one hundred

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Speaker 5: and sixty on the indicator. The only time it gets

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Speaker 5: hot is on a parade, and it'll get up over

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Speaker 5: never shut her down. I get her out on the highway,

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Speaker 5: drive it a mile, and she's back down to one.

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Speaker 2: And there's no rule. It's saying that that two hundred

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Speaker 2: two hundred is bad. The two hundred is bad because

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Speaker 2: the evaporation rate of fuel today versus then, right, and

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Speaker 2: I bet it goes into I bet it goes into

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Speaker 2: a vapor law condition if it gets too hot. Right, Yeah,

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Speaker 2: so that's that's the issue. You know, an older vehicle,

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Speaker 2: I have no problem running conventional green coolant if that's

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Speaker 2: what it originally called for. You know, the composition of

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Speaker 2: it's changed, and I'm sure the quality of it has changed,

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Speaker 2: maybe maybe for the better, maybe not. The bigger concern

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Speaker 2: I have on an older vehicle like that that's seeing

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Speaker 2: issues with fuel. You know, aside from vapor lock, the

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Speaker 2: cleanliness of the fuel, the unleaded versus the leaded, you know,

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Speaker 2: that whole mishmash. I don't see an issue there. I

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Speaker 2: would just you know, as long as you're doing some

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Speaker 2: would be using a I would be using a oil

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Speaker 2: rated for what that's probably a solid lifter motor, right, Bill,

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Speaker 2: is it?

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Speaker 4: Yeah?

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Speaker 2: Yeah, you know I would. I would be doing that

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Speaker 2: and you know, some fuel system cleaner now and again

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Speaker 2: sure as heck wouldn't hurt. You want to keep you

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Speaker 2: want to keep carbon out of it.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, you know, one user.

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Speaker 2: Right, and no argument there, you know, But those are

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Speaker 2: the things you're looking for to try and get some

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Speaker 2: longevity out of it. All right.

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Speaker 5: So now when you have a tester, when you do

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Speaker 5: a tester on anner freeze with a tester, what does

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Speaker 5: it actually tell you.

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Speaker 2: It's telling me depends on which one I'm using. It's

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Speaker 2: telling me freeze point and specific gravity. It's all about.

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Speaker 2: It's not just about freeze point, all right. Everybody says, okay,

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Speaker 2: standard standard rule of thumb thirty five below. Right, let's

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Speaker 2: say it's called right thirty five below. But it's also

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Speaker 2: about you can have too high a concentration of anti freeze,

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Speaker 2: all right. That that fifty fifty mix is very very important,

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Speaker 2: and I've seen situations on older vehicles, especially where there's

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Speaker 2: But if you don't have the right density, I'm going

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Speaker 2: to use that word, the right mixture or blend of coolant.

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Speaker 2: Where you've got too much coolant to water, it will

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Speaker 2: actually affect and cause that engine to run hot. It

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Speaker 2: can actually affect temperature and it won't be able to

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Speaker 2: dissipate the heat as efficiently, and it will cause spark

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Speaker 2: knock in the cylinder and cause damage. So that's that's

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Speaker 2: very important. The other thing, the other thing I would

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Speaker 2: I would make sure that I'm doing not just you know,

432
00:23:41,000 --> 00:23:43,480
Speaker 2: freeze point, specific gravity and so on. I would be

433
00:23:43,600 --> 00:23:46,560
Speaker 2: using something called the dip strip. Get yourself down to

434
00:23:46,600 --> 00:23:48,800
Speaker 2: your local ODA parts store telling you want a dip

435
00:23:48,840 --> 00:23:51,840
Speaker 2: strip or you want to measure the acidity of the coolant.

436
00:23:52,359 --> 00:23:56,240
Speaker 2: And it's basically a litmus paper test strip, and it's

437
00:23:56,280 --> 00:23:57,920
Speaker 2: a bunch of tests in a bottle. I think there's

438
00:23:57,960 --> 00:23:59,640
Speaker 2: like thirty of them in a bottle. It's a couple

439
00:23:59,680 --> 00:24:02,520
Speaker 2: of bouves and you can actually measure the acidity, which

440
00:24:02,560 --> 00:24:05,720
Speaker 2: shows is the cool and breaking down and turning hard

441
00:24:05,800 --> 00:24:08,840
Speaker 2: like apple cider vinegar. That's more important. I worry about

442
00:24:08,840 --> 00:24:11,200
Speaker 2: that more on an older vehicle than I do on

443
00:24:11,200 --> 00:24:12,920
Speaker 2: on a lot of the other things. So I got

444
00:24:12,920 --> 00:24:14,679
Speaker 2: to move along, Bill, But I appreciate the call, and

445
00:24:14,680 --> 00:24:16,040
Speaker 2: if you need more, you know where to find me.

446
00:24:16,280 --> 00:24:18,679
Speaker 2: Let's go over and talk to Cara up in Connecticut

447
00:24:19,000 --> 00:24:21,560
Speaker 2: on nine Toyota Matrix. Cara Ronini and the car Doctor

448
00:24:21,560 --> 00:24:22,640
Speaker 2: at your service. How can I help?

449
00:24:23,760 --> 00:24:25,600
Speaker 7: Hey, Ronnie and tom healthy.

450
00:24:25,880 --> 00:24:27,520
Speaker 2: Ye, thank you so much.

451
00:24:27,960 --> 00:24:32,280
Speaker 7: Yes, I have Yes, So I have a Toyota with

452
00:24:32,480 --> 00:24:35,720
Speaker 7: no heated seat. Uh oh, how can I make it happen?

453
00:24:35,800 --> 00:24:37,480
Speaker 7: What do I purchase? What brand?

454
00:24:38,160 --> 00:24:38,560
Speaker 4: Well?

455
00:24:38,720 --> 00:24:42,280
Speaker 2: Where do I shock? You know, I think probably Well,

456
00:24:42,320 --> 00:24:44,239
Speaker 2: I think the bigger question is who's going to put

457
00:24:44,320 --> 00:24:48,280
Speaker 2: him in? Right? Because you know this is this is

458
00:24:48,320 --> 00:24:50,680
Speaker 2: an after market accessory. Is it going to be something

459
00:24:50,680 --> 00:24:53,400
Speaker 2: that's plug and play? Is it going to be something

460
00:24:53,440 --> 00:24:57,000
Speaker 2: that's going to require modification of the original vehicles wiring?

461
00:24:57,680 --> 00:24:59,840
Speaker 2: So who does the service work on the car? Who

462
00:24:59,840 --> 00:25:01,560
Speaker 2: takes care of the car?

463
00:25:02,160 --> 00:25:02,360
Speaker 3: Oh?

464
00:25:02,440 --> 00:25:04,800
Speaker 7: I see what you're saying. Okay, so it's not just

465
00:25:04,880 --> 00:25:08,720
Speaker 7: something to place over the seat.

466
00:25:09,359 --> 00:25:11,840
Speaker 2: Could you do that? Yeah? I guess you could do that.

467
00:25:11,880 --> 00:25:13,760
Speaker 2: I've seen those out there where they just sit on

468
00:25:13,800 --> 00:25:16,160
Speaker 2: the seat and you plug it into the cigarette lighter.

469
00:25:16,280 --> 00:25:19,200
Speaker 2: Is that what you're thinking, That's what I'm thinking.

470
00:25:19,320 --> 00:25:22,800
Speaker 7: Yeah, something more inexpensive. Not I don't want to invest

471
00:25:22,840 --> 00:25:23,640
Speaker 7: too much in the car.

472
00:25:23,800 --> 00:25:25,040
Speaker 2: Okay, Yeah, I can see that.

473
00:25:26,200 --> 00:25:29,200
Speaker 7: We're gonna move on. I mean, it's a beautiful car, right.

474
00:25:29,119 --> 00:25:31,199
Speaker 2: Then If that's what we're gonna do, then it's a

475
00:25:31,240 --> 00:25:34,920
Speaker 2: matter of just doing the research. Looking at the star ratings. Heck,

476
00:25:34,960 --> 00:25:37,160
Speaker 2: you could probably get it off of Amazon. Amazon takes

477
00:25:37,160 --> 00:25:40,280
Speaker 2: everything back if you don't like it. And see what

478
00:25:40,320 --> 00:25:42,960
Speaker 2: people are saying, and you know, I don't see a downside.

479
00:25:43,000 --> 00:25:47,640
Speaker 2: Do you have cloth or leather seats? Cloth? You might

480
00:25:47,680 --> 00:25:50,160
Speaker 2: be a little tough on the on the cloth seating

481
00:25:50,200 --> 00:25:53,879
Speaker 2: because usually, if you notice, most electric seats or heated

482
00:25:53,920 --> 00:25:57,560
Speaker 2: seats are leather because of the heat. But if you're

483
00:25:57,560 --> 00:26:00,879
Speaker 2: buying it as you know, I'm seeing that that seat

484
00:26:00,920 --> 00:26:04,560
Speaker 2: cushion with a built in heater. You know, if you're

485
00:26:04,600 --> 00:26:06,680
Speaker 2: buying it that way, then I would have to say

486
00:26:06,720 --> 00:26:09,320
Speaker 2: that some of that's got to be dissipated through the

487
00:26:09,359 --> 00:26:13,760
Speaker 2: container that the electrical component is built into, and chances

488
00:26:13,760 --> 00:26:15,119
Speaker 2: are you'll be okay.

489
00:26:16,480 --> 00:26:17,000
Speaker 6: Understood.

490
00:26:17,440 --> 00:26:20,200
Speaker 7: Otherwise, like you're thinking of remove, you were going to

491
00:26:20,240 --> 00:26:21,680
Speaker 7: go first with removing the.

492
00:26:21,720 --> 00:26:25,679
Speaker 2: Seat, I was thinking more along the lines of putting it,

493
00:26:25,720 --> 00:26:29,360
Speaker 2: putting a real electric grid under the seat, and recovering

494
00:26:29,400 --> 00:26:32,480
Speaker 2: it with fresh material. But I get, I get where

495
00:26:32,480 --> 00:26:34,720
Speaker 2: you're going, and I get the cost. Your way is

496
00:26:34,760 --> 00:26:37,000
Speaker 2: going to be more cost effective on an older vehicle.

497
00:26:37,600 --> 00:26:42,280
Speaker 2: So if you're looking for a short term solution, all right, short.

498
00:26:42,040 --> 00:26:44,600
Speaker 7: Term, yeah, I think I'll go that route. You know.

499
00:26:44,720 --> 00:26:48,440
Speaker 2: The other thing you could do is just just for giggles,

500
00:26:48,760 --> 00:26:50,120
Speaker 2: how about a heated jacket.

501
00:26:52,960 --> 00:26:54,280
Speaker 7: I like that idea too.

502
00:26:54,280 --> 00:26:56,639
Speaker 2: Right, so you're warm on the outside.

503
00:26:56,600 --> 00:26:58,480
Speaker 5: So all right, kidding?

504
00:26:59,080 --> 00:27:01,919
Speaker 7: I like Thank you so much. I learned lot from

505
00:27:01,960 --> 00:27:04,520
Speaker 7: the show. I'm gonna keep in tuned all the time.

506
00:27:04,880 --> 00:27:06,639
Speaker 2: Thank you so much. We appreciate you being there. We're

507
00:27:06,640 --> 00:27:08,919
Speaker 2: glad to help you, so you take good care. I'm

508
00:27:08,960 --> 00:27:10,880
Speaker 2: running Indy in the car doctor A five five five

509
00:27:10,920 --> 00:27:13,239
Speaker 2: six zero nine nine zero zero. We'll be back right

510
00:27:13,280 --> 00:27:29,240
Speaker 2: after this, rolling along. We are on fire this hour.

511
00:27:29,320 --> 00:27:30,880
Speaker 2: Run an Indie in the car, doctor, at your service.

512
00:27:30,960 --> 00:27:32,879
Speaker 2: Let's go over to Pete in Michigan O three de

513
00:27:33,000 --> 00:27:36,000
Speaker 2: Ville DTS with attraction control issue. Pete, Welcome to the

514
00:27:36,000 --> 00:27:37,200
Speaker 2: car doctor, sir. How can I help?

515
00:27:39,240 --> 00:27:39,480
Speaker 5: Hey?

516
00:27:39,560 --> 00:27:42,119
Speaker 3: Ron, how are you good? Sir? I'm gonna make your

517
00:27:42,119 --> 00:27:43,840
Speaker 3: eyes roll a little bit because I used to call

518
00:27:43,880 --> 00:27:47,040
Speaker 3: you all the time because I infamously bought a two

519
00:27:47,080 --> 00:27:50,440
Speaker 3: thousand and three PT Cruiser. Wow, whendn't they murdered that one?

520
00:27:51,520 --> 00:27:52,399
Speaker 5: So yeah, do you know that?

521
00:27:52,600 --> 00:27:53,320
Speaker 2: Do you know they're coming?

522
00:27:53,359 --> 00:27:53,720
Speaker 4: Hey? Pete?

523
00:27:53,720 --> 00:27:55,359
Speaker 2: Do you know they're coming back? Chrysler is going to

524
00:27:55,400 --> 00:27:59,720
Speaker 2: bring back the PT Cruiser, all serious. I was reading

525
00:27:59,720 --> 00:28:02,199
Speaker 2: something about it. So they're actually considering bringing back that

526
00:28:02,280 --> 00:28:04,360
Speaker 2: body style. I can't, I said to myself. I said, God,

527
00:28:04,359 --> 00:28:06,640
Speaker 2: I hope they're not bringing back the duel overhead camp

528
00:28:06,720 --> 00:28:10,320
Speaker 2: four cylinder. What a nightmare? Anyway, go ahead, right, you

529
00:28:10,400 --> 00:28:12,120
Speaker 2: brought it. You brought it up, brother, So.

530
00:28:14,359 --> 00:28:14,639
Speaker 5: I know.

531
00:28:15,080 --> 00:28:18,240
Speaker 3: But and I'm not getting any better in my car

532
00:28:18,280 --> 00:28:20,480
Speaker 3: selection as I'm learning with this one I bought in

533
00:28:20,520 --> 00:28:23,639
Speaker 3: the fall. But in my defense, I bought it for

534
00:28:23,680 --> 00:28:29,119
Speaker 3: seven hundred bucks one hundred and fifty miles on it. Anyway,

535
00:28:29,200 --> 00:28:32,720
Speaker 3: So going out to dinner with some friends following in

536
00:28:32,760 --> 00:28:36,520
Speaker 3: the caddy, went to a restaurant they were hour behind,

537
00:28:36,760 --> 00:28:39,440
Speaker 3: decided to go across town. I get in my car

538
00:28:39,840 --> 00:28:41,400
Speaker 3: and I'm pulling out, get out in the middle of

539
00:28:41,440 --> 00:28:45,200
Speaker 3: the main road on a Friday night, and the car

540
00:28:45,320 --> 00:28:48,480
Speaker 3: just comes to crawl, and they have it in the

541
00:28:48,480 --> 00:28:51,520
Speaker 3: center console. There's a cup holder that kind of springs

542
00:28:51,560 --> 00:28:55,080
Speaker 3: out of the center console there, and it pushed the

543
00:28:55,600 --> 00:28:57,280
Speaker 3: traction control buttons.

544
00:28:57,720 --> 00:28:58,720
Speaker 2: Okay, and that.

545
00:28:58,600 --> 00:29:03,280
Speaker 3: Car just basically has started to I don't know how

546
00:29:03,320 --> 00:29:06,160
Speaker 3: else to explain it, except for somebody put sticks in

547
00:29:06,240 --> 00:29:09,960
Speaker 3: the bicycle spoke so my So it just kind of

548
00:29:10,120 --> 00:29:12,640
Speaker 3: was just kind of crunching along and it wouldn't get

549
00:29:12,680 --> 00:29:13,480
Speaker 3: out of its own way.

550
00:29:13,880 --> 00:29:15,400
Speaker 2: Well, because the store.

551
00:29:15,280 --> 00:29:17,040
Speaker 3: You accelerate, the slower it would go.

552
00:29:17,320 --> 00:29:23,640
Speaker 2: So the traction control was activated. It sounds, it sounds,

553
00:29:23,760 --> 00:29:26,400
Speaker 2: it sounds to me like the traction control was activated.

554
00:29:26,600 --> 00:29:29,680
Speaker 2: Let's let's go backwards a minute. You're saying, you're saying,

555
00:29:29,720 --> 00:29:32,720
Speaker 2: whatever happened, turn the traction control, hit the traction control

556
00:29:32,760 --> 00:29:37,280
Speaker 2: button to turn it on. Yeah, so it was turned.

557
00:29:37,000 --> 00:29:40,680
Speaker 3: Off and the car would not go right, right.

558
00:29:40,560 --> 00:29:43,400
Speaker 2: But so so the button was turned off, the system

559
00:29:43,480 --> 00:29:45,400
Speaker 2: was turned off through the car correct.

560
00:29:47,280 --> 00:29:50,840
Speaker 3: Yeah, once I turned it off, the car drove perfectly fine.

561
00:29:50,960 --> 00:29:51,120
Speaker 4: Right.

562
00:29:51,520 --> 00:29:54,960
Speaker 2: So, so there is a there is a fault obviously,

563
00:29:55,160 --> 00:29:57,400
Speaker 2: not that I'm telling you any newsflash, but there is

564
00:29:57,440 --> 00:30:00,760
Speaker 2: a fault in the traction control that needs to be diagnosed.

565
00:30:01,000 --> 00:30:03,040
Speaker 2: And we're gonna start with codes. We're gonna start with

566
00:30:03,080 --> 00:30:06,040
Speaker 2: looking at wheel speed sensors. We're gonna start with looking

567
00:30:06,120 --> 00:30:09,880
Speaker 2: to inputs to the ABS control module. What's it's seeing

568
00:30:10,120 --> 00:30:13,160
Speaker 2: that's out of the norm. Something is causing that vehicle

569
00:30:13,200 --> 00:30:15,480
Speaker 2: to apply the brakes that vehicle is seeing a skid

570
00:30:15,520 --> 00:30:16,800
Speaker 2: moment when there isn't one.

571
00:30:18,560 --> 00:30:22,840
Speaker 3: Yeah, so, uh no codes? But uh m, I l's

572
00:30:23,040 --> 00:30:27,080
Speaker 3: are the A B s of course in attraction control? Right,

573
00:30:27,920 --> 00:30:31,360
Speaker 3: I did buy new hubs to put on the front.

574
00:30:31,600 --> 00:30:34,200
Speaker 3: But is that going to take both take care of

575
00:30:34,280 --> 00:30:35,200
Speaker 3: both of my abs?

576
00:30:36,320 --> 00:30:38,480
Speaker 2: First of all? First, first of all, what did you

577
00:30:38,600 --> 00:30:42,240
Speaker 2: use to pull codes? Did you go in your making

578
00:30:42,360 --> 00:30:45,360
Speaker 2: model or did you go in by your making model?

579
00:30:45,440 --> 00:30:51,040
Speaker 2: Or ob D two? Okay, O b D two. Why

580
00:30:51,080 --> 00:30:53,600
Speaker 2: won't O b D two work in this situation? Pete,

581
00:30:54,120 --> 00:30:56,680
Speaker 2: I'm gonna make you, I'm gonna make you well. No,

582
00:30:56,800 --> 00:30:58,840
Speaker 2: I'm gonna make you smarter than than than you are.

583
00:30:59,520 --> 00:31:02,520
Speaker 2: Why won't Because this is a classic example of when

584
00:31:02,520 --> 00:31:05,360
Speaker 2: I explain ob D two to y'all why it doesn't work.

585
00:31:05,960 --> 00:31:09,240
Speaker 2: Is OBD two related to emissions? Or I'm sorry, is

586
00:31:09,320 --> 00:31:11,520
Speaker 2: traction control faults related to emissions?

587
00:31:13,440 --> 00:31:13,880
Speaker 5: No?

588
00:31:13,880 --> 00:31:15,600
Speaker 3: No, it's drive train.

589
00:31:15,560 --> 00:31:19,000
Speaker 2: Right, it's drive train. So what does the Clean Air

590
00:31:19,040 --> 00:31:23,600
Speaker 2: Act of nineteen ninety one mandate about OBD two? It

591
00:31:23,680 --> 00:31:25,440
Speaker 2: says that it will set a fault code in the

592
00:31:25,480 --> 00:31:29,560
Speaker 2: event of emission's faults. That vehicle is not having an

593
00:31:29,560 --> 00:31:33,280
Speaker 2: emissions moment, that vehicle is having a powertrain drive train moment.

594
00:31:35,520 --> 00:31:38,040
Speaker 2: So if you go in here's the example where I'm

595
00:31:38,040 --> 00:31:40,240
Speaker 2: always talking about I love these teaching moments. I'm not

596
00:31:40,320 --> 00:31:43,480
Speaker 2: yelling at you, Pete. I'm excited, all right. You know

597
00:31:43,720 --> 00:31:47,840
Speaker 2: it's it's OBD two. OBD two is your first language.

598
00:31:48,200 --> 00:31:52,120
Speaker 2: Do you speak a second language? You speak? You speak

599
00:31:52,160 --> 00:31:54,640
Speaker 2: Michigan and you speak English, right, because I'm sure there's

600
00:31:54,640 --> 00:32:00,200
Speaker 2: Michigan slang, right, sob OBD two is English Michigan and

601
00:32:00,240 --> 00:32:03,120
Speaker 2: slang is ear Make model. It's specific to that region.

602
00:32:03,160 --> 00:32:05,680
Speaker 2: It's specific to that vehicle. So if you were to

603
00:32:05,720 --> 00:32:08,000
Speaker 2: go in with a scan tool, it gave you eear

604
00:32:08,040 --> 00:32:12,600
Speaker 2: Make model specific manufacturer information two thousand and three Cadillactaville

605
00:32:12,640 --> 00:32:16,000
Speaker 2: DTS and you went into the ABS traction control module,

606
00:32:16,440 --> 00:32:18,880
Speaker 2: There'll be fault codes in there, and you can't get

607
00:32:18,880 --> 00:32:21,440
Speaker 2: that kind of information at the ODO part stores. They

608
00:32:21,440 --> 00:32:22,360
Speaker 2: don't scan like that.

609
00:32:23,440 --> 00:32:26,200
Speaker 3: So well I can't go out and afford it TECH

610
00:32:26,280 --> 00:32:27,320
Speaker 3: one scanner.

611
00:32:27,200 --> 00:32:29,600
Speaker 2: Right right, Well, now I get that, But my point

612
00:32:29,720 --> 00:32:33,040
Speaker 2: is that don't assume and listen before you start wasting

613
00:32:33,080 --> 00:32:35,240
Speaker 2: money putting hubs in and everything else. Because you put

614
00:32:35,280 --> 00:32:38,080
Speaker 2: hubs in it or you bought hubs for it, Get

615
00:32:38,080 --> 00:32:40,600
Speaker 2: it scanned, take it to somebody, let them scan it,

616
00:32:40,960 --> 00:32:42,800
Speaker 2: because I can't tell you if that's going to fix it,

617
00:32:42,800 --> 00:32:44,240
Speaker 2: because I don't know what the fault codes are because

618
00:32:44,240 --> 00:32:46,400
Speaker 2: you use the wrong scan tool. Pete, I love you.

619
00:32:46,480 --> 00:32:48,800
Speaker 2: Stop buying these cars or be prepared to work on them.

620
00:32:48,840 --> 00:32:51,120
Speaker 2: Call me back eight five five five six zero nine

621
00:32:51,200 --> 00:32:53,120
Speaker 2: nine zero zero running Indying of the car. Doctor will

622
00:32:53,120 --> 00:33:08,720
Speaker 2: be back right after this, and we're here to wrap

623
00:33:08,720 --> 00:33:12,600
Speaker 2: it up. Look at this another fast hour just kind

624
00:33:12,640 --> 00:33:14,840
Speaker 2: of flew by. I want to talk real quick. You know,

625
00:33:14,880 --> 00:33:19,440
Speaker 2: we were in Pittsburgh last week, and I'm driving through Pennsylvania,

626
00:33:19,520 --> 00:33:22,600
Speaker 2: and you know it's funny, right, life imitates art, art

627
00:33:22,600 --> 00:33:24,840
Speaker 2: imitates life. I think about the show. I think about

628
00:33:24,840 --> 00:33:27,640
Speaker 2: your questions. I think about the situations all of you

629
00:33:27,680 --> 00:33:29,840
Speaker 2: get into, you know, trying to fix your cars or

630
00:33:29,880 --> 00:33:33,160
Speaker 2: just maintaining your cars, or driving your cars whatever. I

631
00:33:33,200 --> 00:33:36,920
Speaker 2: stopped at a sheets gas station and if you remember,

632
00:33:36,960 --> 00:33:39,480
Speaker 2: we had a car in the shop two or three

633
00:33:39,480 --> 00:33:43,000
Speaker 2: weeks ago, Alex came in with his nineteen Honda CRV

634
00:33:43,800 --> 00:33:46,040
Speaker 2: and Alex had a lean fault code that was a

635
00:33:46,080 --> 00:33:50,120
Speaker 2: result of he had put ethanol fuel. He was driving

636
00:33:50,120 --> 00:33:53,880
Speaker 2: through Pennsylvania. In Pennsylvania's a self served gas state, and

637
00:33:53,920 --> 00:33:56,840
Speaker 2: he pumped ethanol into a vehicle that is not rated

638
00:33:56,880 --> 00:33:59,520
Speaker 2: for ethanol, not e eighty five. He pumped eighty five in.

639
00:34:00,840 --> 00:34:04,320
Speaker 2: So I stopped at the Sheets to get gas, and

640
00:34:04,440 --> 00:34:07,760
Speaker 2: you know, the coffee break, and I'm looking at the

641
00:34:07,760 --> 00:34:10,839
Speaker 2: pump and I noticed, boy, it's not hard to do.

642
00:34:11,640 --> 00:34:11,799
Speaker 5: Now.

643
00:34:11,840 --> 00:34:14,480
Speaker 2: The way Sheets has it sets up set up is

644
00:34:15,000 --> 00:34:19,840
Speaker 2: there's there's three pumps, there's three handles. Okay. There's a

645
00:34:19,840 --> 00:34:22,080
Speaker 2: pump to the right which it says eighty seven eighty

646
00:34:22,160 --> 00:34:25,279
Speaker 2: nine to ninety three octane. There's a handle in the

647
00:34:25,320 --> 00:34:31,880
Speaker 2: middle which is blue for diesel, okay, and then there's

648
00:34:32,040 --> 00:34:36,080
Speaker 2: a handle to the left of that. The frame is

649
00:34:36,120 --> 00:34:38,680
Speaker 2: in yellow, but the handle looks like a regular handle,

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Speaker 2: and that's for e eighty five. That's for ethanol e

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Speaker 2: eighty five. And I could see how you would get

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Speaker 2: so confused. So you've really got to be careful. You

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Speaker 2: got to know what pump handle you're pulling. I think

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Speaker 2: there should be a standard, right, everything ethanol should be yellow,

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Speaker 2: everything diesel should be blue. And I think the regular

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Speaker 2: gas pumps fall should have a red handle. On the end,

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Speaker 2: it would define what it is because boy, you can

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Speaker 2: make a mistake. I'm Ron a Nanny and the Car

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Speaker 2: Doctor an absolute pleasure until the next time. Good mechanics

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Speaker 2: aren't expensive, they're priceless.

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Speaker 3: See you