WEBVTT - He’s Out in May But CBS Might Wish Colbert Would Leave Early 0:00:02.120 --> 0:00:07.240 Hey, that folks. It is Wednesday, February eighteenth, Stephen Colbert. 0:00:07.360 --> 0:00:10.920 He is leaving the Late Show in a few months, 0:00:11.520 --> 0:00:15.240 but he is not gonna go quietly, apparently, and a 0:00:15.400 --> 0:00:20.119 public war of words and statements has erupted. And with that, 0:00:20.120 --> 0:00:23.480 welcome to this episode of Amy and TJ. CBS versus 0:00:23.480 --> 0:00:28.320 Colbert is playing out quite publicly. This is no, no, 0:00:28.360 --> 0:00:31.200 it's not necessarily funny. He's made some funny remarks. 0:00:31.200 --> 0:00:35.120 But you hate to see this, but I appreciate his freedom. 0:00:35.640 --> 0:00:36.360 He is free. 0:00:36.800 --> 0:00:39.279 He is free to say what he wants because he 0:00:39.320 --> 0:00:44.480 has already been told Baye. And so now he actually 0:00:44.520 --> 0:00:47.320 sits in a very comfortable spot. It's that place when 0:00:47.400 --> 0:00:51.080 you know you literally have nothing to lose. And if 0:00:51.080 --> 0:00:53.080 he wants to burn the house down as he goes, 0:00:53.479 --> 0:00:54.520 he kind of can. 0:00:54.800 --> 0:00:57.920 You know what? You know what? We want to make 0:00:57.920 --> 0:00:59.240 sure and you won't let you hear it all if 0:00:59.240 --> 0:01:01.720 you haven't heard. But he's not burning down the house. 0:01:01.760 --> 0:01:05.960 I thought now he could have. I thought he brought 0:01:06.000 --> 0:01:08.080 the temperature down a little bit on night too. And 0:01:08.080 --> 0:01:11.319 what we're talking about, folks. Stephen Colbert, lay show host, 0:01:11.400 --> 0:01:15.120 of course, has publicly accused CBS of squashing an interview 0:01:15.200 --> 0:01:19.800 he had scheduled for Monday's show. But now CBS has 0:01:19.840 --> 0:01:23.280 come out and refuted that, saying the network did not 0:01:23.640 --> 0:01:27.800 kill the interview. So Colbert came back in response to 0:01:27.840 --> 0:01:33.520 that last night and called BS on c B s 0:01:33.680 --> 0:01:36.119 is where we are, so Robes. So your point about 0:01:36.120 --> 0:01:38.240 the freedom. Yes, late last year they announced he was 0:01:38.240 --> 0:01:39.679 going to be the show was going to go away 0:01:40.000 --> 0:01:44.000 in May. He's a few months away. But the backstory here, Robes. 0:01:44.280 --> 0:01:46.400 He's trying to he was trying to do an interview 0:01:46.400 --> 0:01:49.000 with a candidate quite frankly nobody's heard of on a 0:01:49.080 --> 0:01:49.960 national level. 0:01:50.160 --> 0:01:53.160 Correct, And he was told that he could not air 0:01:53.720 --> 0:01:58.960 that interview on CBS because of well, something that is 0:01:59.120 --> 0:02:01.600 kind of nebulous at this point in terms of where 0:02:01.640 --> 0:02:04.360 it should be applied. But this equal time rule that 0:02:04.400 --> 0:02:09.080 we've heard FCC chairman kind of talk about when it 0:02:09.160 --> 0:02:12.920 comes to shows that weren't under this rule that broadcast 0:02:13.000 --> 0:02:16.000 networks are. When you are a news program, you cannot 0:02:16.040 --> 0:02:20.320 give in an election year, one candidate from a party 0:02:21.000 --> 0:02:25.080 airtime and not give that equal opportunity to a candidate 0:02:25.120 --> 0:02:28.240 from the other party. That makes sense. You don't want 0:02:28.280 --> 0:02:32.919 to have a unevenly weighted news program where people aren't 0:02:32.919 --> 0:02:35.359 given the option to see both sides or to hear 0:02:35.360 --> 0:02:35.800 both sides. 0:02:35.800 --> 0:02:37.840 Standard stuff, long standing understood. 0:02:37.960 --> 0:02:42.560 Yes, yes, so that has not typically applied to entertainment shows, 0:02:42.680 --> 0:02:46.600 late night shows, talk shows. These are shows that aren't 0:02:46.800 --> 0:02:55.040 deemed as basically I'm just saying, like objective news programs, 0:02:55.080 --> 0:02:58.239 these are not the same. Cable news also doesn't apply 0:02:58.639 --> 0:03:01.240 because they're not con considered places. 0:03:00.919 --> 0:03:03.639 Where people would go to for objective news coverage. 0:03:04.440 --> 0:03:06.040 Yes, and this has been a long standing rule on 0:03:06.120 --> 0:03:09.600 new broadcast that works. This is where this counts in broadcast. 0:03:09.680 --> 0:03:14.040 You cannot simply it's a good rule, and I understand 0:03:14.040 --> 0:03:15.800 it why it needs to be equal time. Fine, but 0:03:15.840 --> 0:03:19.079 this is a long standing tradition, long standing. So yes, 0:03:19.160 --> 0:03:23.239 Carr is threatening this. So Colbert is claiming that CBS 0:03:24.280 --> 0:03:25.959 killed an interview he was going to do with a 0:03:26.000 --> 0:03:28.680 guy by the name of James Tillerica. 0:03:28.720 --> 0:03:31.240 I got his name right to Allarica, Like, yes, we 0:03:31.320 --> 0:03:33.280 actually had to look it up because he's Look, he's 0:03:33.320 --> 0:03:36.920 a Texas state representative and that's not typically going to 0:03:36.960 --> 0:03:38.640 be a household name nationwide. 0:03:38.680 --> 0:03:42.000 But it's relevant now because of a Senate race down 0:03:42.000 --> 0:03:44.800 there that is relevant. Jasmine Crockett has gotten into it. 0:03:44.840 --> 0:03:47.560 He's a Democrat, James to Allerico, but they are going 0:03:47.640 --> 0:03:50.040 up for the seat that John Cornin holds. This is 0:03:50.080 --> 0:03:52.840 a big deal, a national race. Can they flip this seat? 0:03:53.200 --> 0:03:56.280 That is why James Tallerico is relevant. So he was 0:03:56.320 --> 0:03:59.440 scheduled Robes to do an interview that was going to 0:03:59.480 --> 0:04:02.200 air on the show on Monday. That did not happen, 0:04:02.320 --> 0:04:04.840 and they end up still putting it somewhere for people 0:04:04.840 --> 0:04:06.320 to see it, but it wasn't on the broadcast. 0:04:06.400 --> 0:04:09.440 Yes, they put it actually on the YouTube channel correct 0:04:09.560 --> 0:04:13.400 that is associated with the Colbert Show. But Colbert instead 0:04:13.400 --> 0:04:17.560 of just going quietly, which I would say typically if 0:04:17.600 --> 0:04:20.919 he were in a contract year wanted to stay with 0:04:20.960 --> 0:04:24.159 the network, this probably wouldn't be something we would see 0:04:24.200 --> 0:04:26.720 him air out. Look, a lot of things happen behind 0:04:26.760 --> 0:04:29.479 the scenes. We've been in the news business where we've 0:04:29.520 --> 0:04:33.200 had interviews that have been shelved, stories that they've said 0:04:33.200 --> 0:04:34.080 aren't fit for air. 0:04:34.400 --> 0:04:37.000 That does happen, and you don't really get. 0:04:36.880 --> 0:04:40.680 To talk about it publicly because you're having a relationship 0:04:40.680 --> 0:04:43.720 and a conversation and an understanding with your boss about 0:04:43.760 --> 0:04:47.000 what's appropriate and what's not. So it is interesting to 0:04:47.040 --> 0:04:49.680 see him now have the license and really have the 0:04:49.760 --> 0:04:53.359 platform to say exactly what is going on behind the 0:04:53.360 --> 0:04:55.839 scenes and call people out for things that he doesn't 0:04:55.839 --> 0:04:59.320 think are correct, including the people who write his paychecks 0:04:59.400 --> 0:05:00.240 or sign his page. 0:05:00.520 --> 0:05:03.400 And this is what he said on Monday that started 0:05:03.440 --> 0:05:05.760 at all after announcing I think Jennifer Garney was going 0:05:05.800 --> 0:05:07.960 to be on the show, he said, quote, you know 0:05:08.000 --> 0:05:11.599 who was not on Who is not one of my 0:05:11.720 --> 0:05:15.680 guests tonight. That's Texas State Representative James Tillericho. He was 0:05:15.720 --> 0:05:17.719 supposed to be here, but we were told in no 0:05:17.839 --> 0:05:21.800 uncertain terms by our network's lawyers, who called us directly, 0:05:21.880 --> 0:05:24.279 that we could not have him on the broadcast. Then 0:05:24.360 --> 0:05:27.960 I was told in some uncertain terms that not only 0:05:28.160 --> 0:05:29.960 could I not have him on, I could not mention 0:05:30.360 --> 0:05:33.080 me not having him on. And because my network clearly 0:05:33.120 --> 0:05:36.200 doesn't want us to talk about this, let's talk about this. 0:05:36.600 --> 0:05:39.120 That's how he opened the segment. So your kind of 0:05:39.160 --> 0:05:41.640 eyes got big, like, WHOA, where's he going? He cracks 0:05:41.680 --> 0:05:44.600 a joke but ropes throughout this thing. He was fiery, 0:05:44.640 --> 0:05:45.480 and he looked pissed. 0:05:45.600 --> 0:05:48.280 Yeah, and wouldn't you say, though I know we said, 0:05:48.400 --> 0:05:50.039 or you said, he's not burning the house down. But 0:05:50.560 --> 0:05:53.679 if Stephen Colbert weren't in the position he's in now, 0:05:54.000 --> 0:05:57.600 wouldn't you say, that would almost be, if not assuredly 0:05:57.640 --> 0:05:59.359 be a fireable offense. 0:05:59.480 --> 0:06:01.400 Spend the bullefens at least. 0:06:01.600 --> 0:06:04.640 Yes, So he did something that we would never see 0:06:04.680 --> 0:06:08.200 someone do who is employed by a major company, who 0:06:08.240 --> 0:06:12.200 wants to stay employed by said major company. But he 0:06:12.240 --> 0:06:14.400 then explained the equal time role like we just did, 0:06:14.440 --> 0:06:18.240 and then said, call this what this is? Donald Trump's 0:06:18.279 --> 0:06:23.880 administration wants to silence anyone who says anything bad about 0:06:23.920 --> 0:06:26.640 Trump on TV boom. 0:06:27.040 --> 0:06:31.599 So he is talking about his own network, caving to 0:06:31.920 --> 0:06:35.320 a threat from the FCC chair who, of course, is 0:06:35.360 --> 0:06:38.600 just trying to protect his boss. The next statement here, 0:06:38.800 --> 0:06:43.839 Robes is one, Yes, I mean it's powerful. It really 0:06:43.920 --> 0:06:46.719 is a relevant statement that we should all pay attention 0:06:46.760 --> 0:06:50.880 to rogues because a lot of networks and companies are 0:06:50.960 --> 0:06:52.040 dealing with his exact thing. 0:06:52.160 --> 0:06:55.480 That's right, because he pointed out the FCC chairman, Brendan 0:06:55.520 --> 0:06:59.360 Carr only threatened to get rid of equal time. He didn't, 0:06:59.600 --> 0:07:03.360 he didn't make a change, He didn't say this is enforceable. 0:07:03.400 --> 0:07:08.240 He has suggested basically in a series of posts on 0:07:08.680 --> 0:07:12.240 x and social media, when he sees something he doesn't like, 0:07:12.480 --> 0:07:13.440 he threatens it. 0:07:13.520 --> 0:07:16.280 He kind of dangles it. But it hasn't actually happened. 0:07:16.760 --> 0:07:19.560 And so Colbert pointed that out and said car only 0:07:19.640 --> 0:07:23.080 threatened to get rid of equal time, but my network 0:07:23.280 --> 0:07:28.560 is unilaterally enforcing it, as if he had wow, and 0:07:28.600 --> 0:07:33.600 then went on to say, this decision is purely financial. 0:07:33.760 --> 0:07:35.920 The threat worked. This is going to be important over 0:07:35.920 --> 0:07:37.960 the next couple of years of this administration. If things 0:07:38.000 --> 0:07:39.920 like this are going to happen, what do you do? 0:07:40.680 --> 0:07:43.640 They didn't they We don't have to come after you. 0:07:43.640 --> 0:07:45.520 We don't have to revoke your license, we don't have 0:07:45.600 --> 0:07:47.920 to sue you. All we got to do is threaten you, 0:07:47.960 --> 0:07:50.680 and you'll get in line. That networks are going to 0:07:50.720 --> 0:07:52.160 have a lot of people don't have to grapple. 0:07:51.880 --> 0:07:54.840 With it because a lawsuit and threatening a lawsuit, and 0:07:54.880 --> 0:07:58.120 we've seen what happens when the Trump administration threatens a lawsuit, 0:07:58.160 --> 0:08:00.920 They almost certainly follow through with it if you continue 0:08:00.960 --> 0:08:05.640 said behavior or conduct that they deemed inappropriate. So you're 0:08:05.720 --> 0:08:11.720 right by just threatening a lawsuit any company, any media company, 0:08:11.800 --> 0:08:15.280 especially where profits are probably already thin, they are not 0:08:15.760 --> 0:08:17.800 going to want to poke the bear and take on 0:08:18.440 --> 0:08:23.240 the financial the significant financial cost of even fighting a lawsuit. 0:08:23.600 --> 0:08:25.560 They want to avoid lawsuits. 0:08:26.680 --> 0:08:29.680 Completely, and so in order to avoid the lawsuit, just 0:08:29.760 --> 0:08:33.280 go ahead and cower power to that threat. 0:08:33.559 --> 0:08:35.720 This is concerning, And he pointed out and when he 0:08:35.760 --> 0:08:38.440 made that statement, there were no jokes attached to it. 0:08:38.440 --> 0:08:40.360 That was a very serious statement. He wanted to get out. 0:08:40.360 --> 0:08:44.439 But that was Monday, So come Tuesday, Robes, CBS responds 0:08:44.480 --> 0:08:47.680 to what he said on the air and essentially saying Nope, 0:08:48.280 --> 0:08:49.200 that's not what happened. 0:08:49.480 --> 0:08:52.560 Yes, CBS News put out this statement in response to 0:08:52.600 --> 0:08:57.960 their employee, Stephen Colbert. The Late Show was not prohibited 0:08:58.120 --> 0:09:02.400 by CBS from broadcasting the interview with Representative James Talerico. 0:09:02.880 --> 0:09:07.880 The show was provided legal guidance that the broadcast could 0:09:07.920 --> 0:09:11.960 trigger the FCC equal time rule for two other candidates, 0:09:12.000 --> 0:09:16.880 including Representative Jasmine Crockett, and presented options for how the 0:09:17.640 --> 0:09:20.040 for how the equal time for the other candidates could 0:09:20.040 --> 0:09:23.960 be fulfilled. The Late Show decided to present the interview 0:09:24.280 --> 0:09:27.680 through its YouTube channel, with on air promotion on the 0:09:27.720 --> 0:09:32.400 broadcast rather than potentially providing the equal time options. 0:09:34.000 --> 0:09:37.440 Huh, what do you make of again, We're going to 0:09:37.440 --> 0:09:40.960 get into He responded to this as well, they got 0:09:41.120 --> 0:09:45.040 guidance to who other so they were telling them you 0:09:45.120 --> 0:09:47.800 might get sued. And they're saying the decision was solely 0:09:47.880 --> 0:09:49.640 up to the late show. Correct. 0:09:49.720 --> 0:09:53.320 I think that they were saying, we would like you 0:09:53.400 --> 0:09:58.240 then to consider putting on these other candidates. Well, when 0:09:58.280 --> 0:10:01.160 someone says you should con and it's your boss, that 0:10:01.200 --> 0:10:01.920 means you have to. 0:10:02.320 --> 0:10:04.480 I mean that's the way I would take it. For sure. 0:10:04.640 --> 0:10:07.360 You can use whatever language you'd like, but when the 0:10:07.360 --> 0:10:09.760 person who is your boss or who is signing your 0:10:09.840 --> 0:10:13.360 checks tells you you should consider this, that means you 0:10:13.440 --> 0:10:15.880 need to do it. And so yes, I read that 0:10:16.080 --> 0:10:19.000 as them saying, so, if you have Tillerico on, you 0:10:19.040 --> 0:10:22.280 need to also consider You're going to have to consider 0:10:22.400 --> 0:10:25.079 putting these other two candidates on your show as well. 0:10:25.880 --> 0:10:29.440 Man, And they said, no, okay, so what do you 0:10:29.480 --> 0:10:29.800 do there? 0:10:29.880 --> 0:10:32.920 Because yeah, he said he's never in his twenty something years, 0:10:33.000 --> 0:10:36.080 he did say that has ever ever been told he 0:10:36.160 --> 0:10:39.560 has to consider putting on other candidates if he has 0:10:40.120 --> 0:10:42.080 someone on from one side of the aisle he. 0:10:42.080 --> 0:10:45.240 Did, he said, has never happened to him. Maybe this 0:10:45.360 --> 0:10:47.520 is where we are. I don't know what the response 0:10:47.600 --> 0:10:50.040 is going to be, but he excuse me from CBS now, 0:10:50.040 --> 0:10:52.920 because last night Stephen Colbert, as you just said, hopped 0:10:52.960 --> 0:10:55.880 on again and he in Ropes. He had some comments 0:10:55.880 --> 0:11:00.560 here that were a little I would say, disturbing if true, 0:11:00.960 --> 0:11:03.880 and gives us some insight into the relationship between Colbert 0:11:03.920 --> 0:11:07.480 and CBS. Stay here, we'll explain what he said, and 0:11:15.679 --> 0:11:20.000 we continue here on Amy and TJ. Stephen Colbert is 0:11:20.040 --> 0:11:22.840 in a very public war of words with his own 0:11:22.880 --> 0:11:25.720 network right now, as we've been talking about in Robes. 0:11:26.080 --> 0:11:30.480 He responded to the CBS statement essentially saying that, no, 0:11:30.520 --> 0:11:32.520 we didn't make him take this interview down. We didn't 0:11:32.559 --> 0:11:34.560 tell him he had to take it down. We just 0:11:34.640 --> 0:11:37.640 told him. It sounds like Robes. They told him, sure, 0:11:37.720 --> 0:11:39.560 knock yourself out, but you have to put these other 0:11:39.600 --> 0:11:42.240 two candidates on, and they didn't want to do that. 0:11:42.240 --> 0:11:43.240 That's what it sounded like. 0:11:43.240 --> 0:11:43.439 To me. 0:11:43.600 --> 0:11:46.280 Okay, right, I'm just making yes. 0:11:46.320 --> 0:11:49.160 But Stephen Colbert is saying, I've never been told I 0:11:49.320 --> 0:11:52.240 have to put on other people to compensate for having 0:11:52.320 --> 0:11:54.679 someone on who I'd like to have on my show. 0:11:54.960 --> 0:12:01.000 Yes, okay, So CBS statement Robes they put out saying no, 0:12:01.080 --> 0:12:04.559 we didn't force him and explaining it. He seemed perplexed 0:12:04.840 --> 0:12:07.200 last night and responding to that. First of all, he 0:12:07.280 --> 0:12:10.640 read the entire statement on his show, but he seemed, 0:12:10.640 --> 0:12:14.080 at least to me, Robes perplexed as to why they 0:12:14.080 --> 0:12:16.280 would do that, And he said they put that statement 0:12:16.320 --> 0:12:17.400 out without talking to him. 0:12:18.080 --> 0:12:19.760 I mean, he basically called them liars. 0:12:20.679 --> 0:12:23.439 Damn. Okay, you can get right to it if you 0:12:23.600 --> 0:12:25.960 like to. I didn't want to get that was strong. 0:12:26.040 --> 0:12:29.920 But you're right. I'm saying yes, no matter how many 0:12:29.960 --> 0:12:33.240 words I use. Over here, he's saying, no, that is 0:12:33.320 --> 0:12:34.360 not what happened. 0:12:35.000 --> 0:12:37.679 I mean you said that CBS was. He said they 0:12:37.679 --> 0:12:40.000 were full of bs. So yeah, I mean it's he's 0:12:40.120 --> 0:12:41.560 we're all pointing in the same direction. 0:12:41.880 --> 0:12:44.280 Uh okay, So here you go. You were talking about 0:12:44.720 --> 0:12:46.280 he said, yes, he'd never been asked to do the 0:12:46.280 --> 0:12:49.840 equal time rule. He said, quote, I was really I 0:12:49.960 --> 0:12:53.120 was willing to let the whole thing go without ever, 0:12:53.559 --> 0:12:55.280 he said, excuse me, he was willing to let the 0:12:55.280 --> 0:12:57.280 whole thing go, but then they put out of this 0:12:57.320 --> 0:13:00.240 statement without ever talking to me. The corporation put out 0:13:00.280 --> 0:13:02.520 this statement. He holds this thing up, he says, it's 0:13:02.559 --> 0:13:06.520 a surprisingly small statement for how many butts it's trying 0:13:06.600 --> 0:13:10.320 to cover. Robes. I was surprised as he explained that 0:13:10.400 --> 0:13:12.760 the thing they're saying they're upset about, and how he 0:13:12.880 --> 0:13:18.600 explained the story the night before. They approved every single 0:13:18.640 --> 0:13:22.000 word of his script, and so now they're putting out 0:13:22.000 --> 0:13:26.920 a statement saying, oh no, what he said wasn't correct. Robes. 0:13:27.000 --> 0:13:31.200 We've been standards and practices. A lawyer, somebody looks through 0:13:31.280 --> 0:13:35.440 every word he's claiming. Everything he has said on TV 0:13:35.960 --> 0:13:37.600 went through the lawyers. 0:13:37.760 --> 0:13:41.200 And the interesting thing is this show is not live 0:13:41.679 --> 0:13:46.319 on the air. This show is taped and then broadcast. 0:13:46.559 --> 0:13:50.800 So there was and there always is time to make adjustments. 0:13:50.920 --> 0:13:53.880 If they didn't like what he said, they could have 0:13:53.960 --> 0:13:56.120 refused to let it go up. They could have asked 0:13:56.200 --> 0:13:59.440 him to retape or change something or take something out. 0:13:59.520 --> 0:14:04.160 There was time for them to make decisions even after 0:14:04.520 --> 0:14:06.920 he recorded that episode. 0:14:07.000 --> 0:14:09.040 You know what, I didn't check to make sure. I 0:14:09.040 --> 0:14:12.520 don't think it's the case, but I mean, yeah, even 0:14:12.520 --> 0:14:15.480 if it's a tight turn to get it brought. No, 0:14:15.800 --> 0:14:17.960 there is no tight turn. What are we talking about? 0:14:18.080 --> 0:14:20.080 They take it at five or something in the afternoon. 0:14:20.760 --> 0:14:24.440 I'm thinking about coasts and what. No, you have hours 0:14:24.480 --> 0:14:27.840 to decide. You even can see what the East Coast 0:14:28.240 --> 0:14:31.360 reaction is on Twitter and change it for central. You 0:14:31.440 --> 0:14:34.320 got time to do that if you want to row. Okay, now. 0:14:35.960 --> 0:14:36.120 Ya? 0:14:36.920 --> 0:14:37.160 Yeah? 0:14:37.200 --> 0:14:40.240 So he said he did everything right, he said, didn't 0:14:40.240 --> 0:14:43.320 he use the word? He obeyed the network and he 0:14:43.400 --> 0:14:45.520 still got publicly spanked. 0:14:45.640 --> 0:14:48.440 And then he spanked them back. This is a public 0:14:48.480 --> 0:14:52.440 back and forth. But Robes, I thought it was good. 0:14:52.480 --> 0:14:56.800 He at least used a line in there at one 0:14:56.840 --> 0:15:00.600 point where he said, I don't want to at war 0:15:00.680 --> 0:15:04.360 with my employer or my network. He said, I've never 0:15:04.400 --> 0:15:08.520 had an adversarial relationship, and I don't want to have one. Now. 0:15:08.760 --> 0:15:10.840 I thought there was a seriousness in the tone in 0:15:10.880 --> 0:15:13.120 that moment, and there were points throughout when he was 0:15:13.160 --> 0:15:14.680 doing this and he was sitting at the desk. This 0:15:14.800 --> 0:15:20.480 wasn't the monologue where he seemed genuinely upset, not an 0:15:20.480 --> 0:15:22.840 angry way, but almost hurt and disappointed. 0:15:23.040 --> 0:15:27.080 Yes, and even perplexed like a gas like Wait, I'm 0:15:27.120 --> 0:15:32.120 so confused if CBS approved every word of my monologue 0:15:32.200 --> 0:15:36.000 and I used their language, not mine, and they still 0:15:36.040 --> 0:15:39.840 put out a statement after the fact that seems like 0:15:40.200 --> 0:15:43.400 there's some pr war going on. There's no one's actually 0:15:44.000 --> 0:15:48.040 basing this on a foundation of good faith. This seems 0:15:48.120 --> 0:15:51.440 to be about one upping one another in the public 0:15:52.040 --> 0:15:52.720 good faith. 0:15:52.960 --> 0:15:53.520 It's gone. 0:15:53.880 --> 0:15:55.560 That's gone, completely out the door. 0:15:55.680 --> 0:16:00.600 That's gone, especially after he had his little dog crap analogy. 0:16:00.720 --> 0:16:04.200 Oh yeah, I forgot to even mention that he what's 0:16:04.200 --> 0:16:05.040 the line there? You see it? 0:16:05.360 --> 0:16:05.680 He said. 0:16:05.680 --> 0:16:08.640 For the lawyers to release this without even talking to 0:16:08.680 --> 0:16:12.320 me is surprising. I don't even know what to do 0:16:12.400 --> 0:16:15.440 with this crap. And then he had a little little 0:16:15.440 --> 0:16:17.480 doggy bag. All of us dog owners know what it's like, 0:16:17.520 --> 0:16:19.600 and we have to bend down and pick up the 0:16:19.640 --> 0:16:21.120 crap on the side of the sidewalk. 0:16:21.200 --> 0:16:25.000 He did that thing very carefully with that CBS statement. 0:16:25.400 --> 0:16:28.720 Picking up makes me want to watch tonight, though. 0:16:29.440 --> 0:16:33.360 Look, he's got three months, give or take left, and 0:16:34.280 --> 0:16:38.800 I can't see a scenario in which CBS would do 0:16:38.920 --> 0:16:42.400 themselves any favors by punishing him, by taking him off 0:16:42.480 --> 0:16:46.760 early or canceling his show right now, Like I feel 0:16:46.760 --> 0:16:49.880 like you never know. I mean, I was just imagining 0:16:49.880 --> 0:16:53.000 and at this point he'd probably say, who cares? I mean, 0:16:53.200 --> 0:16:56.360 I think he would care, but he's he is making 0:16:56.360 --> 0:17:03.680 a decision to now go on the air and just 0:17:03.800 --> 0:17:06.600 be transparent, which is not something that you can typically 0:17:06.640 --> 0:17:09.800 do in these types of situations. But honestly, given what 0:17:09.840 --> 0:17:17.320 we've seen with networks, newspapers, lots of folks now changing 0:17:18.400 --> 0:17:21.240 how they cover things, perhaps even or what they say, 0:17:21.359 --> 0:17:24.879 or just being extra careful, this is refreshing to at 0:17:24.960 --> 0:17:28.440 least see someone like Stephen Colbert kind of just laying 0:17:28.480 --> 0:17:30.640 it all out there and saying, here is what's happening 0:17:30.640 --> 0:17:31.480 behind the scenes. 0:17:32.040 --> 0:17:32.600 FYI. 0:17:33.240 --> 0:17:37.520 I appreciate for one, and it is entertaining, but it's 0:17:37.560 --> 0:17:42.800 also important. I think both can be true. Well, thank you, 0:17:42.880 --> 0:17:45.200 as always everyone for listening to us. We will continue 0:17:45.200 --> 0:17:48.000 to be watching the developments over at CBS News along 0:17:48.000 --> 0:17:50.359 with so many other stories, so continue. 0:17:50.000 --> 0:17:50.760 To check our feed. 0:17:51.240 --> 0:17:53.520 We are always on top of things on Ami Robac 0:17:53.520 --> 0:17:54.520 alongside TJ. 0:17:54.680 --> 0:17:56.440 Holmes. We'll talk to you soon.