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Speaker 1: From UFOs to psychic powers and government conspiracies. History is

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Speaker 1: riddled with unexplained events. You can turn back now or

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Speaker 2: Hello, welcome back to the show. My name is Matt,

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Speaker 2: my name is Noah, and.

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Speaker 3: They call me Ben. We're joined as always with our

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Speaker 3: super producer Andrew the try Force Howard. Most importantly, you

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Speaker 3: are you. You are here that makes this the stuff

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Speaker 3: they don't want you to know. Folks, thank you for

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Speaker 3: joining us. You're the most important part of the show.

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Speaker 3: And if you are listening to our listener mail the

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Speaker 3: evening it comes out. Let us be the first to

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Speaker 3: welcome you to May twenty ninth, twenty twenty five. We

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Speaker 3: are going to have so many conversations here. I gotta

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Speaker 3: tell you maybe at the top. You guys, a guy

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Speaker 3: did die in a possible kangaroo fight recently. Did you

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Speaker 5: I don't mean finally, I just mean like, hopefully this

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Speaker 5: has been, this has proof positive been that you should

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Speaker 5: not try to PvP a kangaroo.

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Speaker 3: Well, research is ongoing, NOL and we want to think,

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Speaker 3: oh gosh, it may it was either stuff they don't

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Speaker 3: want you a sandwich or stoned coyote who sent that in?

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Speaker 3: And we want you to know, fellow conspiracy realists that

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Speaker 3: at First off Air Noel, while you were in Adventures

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Speaker 3: Matt and Oarpal Dylan to Tennessee, Palell and I were

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Speaker 3: talking about this briefly and it looked initially like it

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Speaker 3: was a possible heart attack that hit this unfortunate man

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Speaker 3: rough housing with a kangaroo, but it may have been

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Speaker 3: blunt force trauma. So just things to think about with

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Speaker 3: our kangaroo PvP conversation, which is of course the precedent

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Speaker 3: to the viral conversation about one hundred humans versus a gorilla.

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Speaker 3: In both cases, don't do.

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Speaker 2: It, no matter how strong you think you are, don't, guys.

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Speaker 2: I have some news recently. H Mart has Roota begas

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Speaker 2: and they are looking good and they taste delicious.

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Speaker 3: H Mart produce is just a world away if you're

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Speaker 3: with an h Mart. H Mart is a supermarket, a

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Speaker 3: primarily marketing Korean produce and food, but they have they

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Speaker 3: have pretty much everything. Yes, and uh and I love

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Speaker 4: Man.

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Speaker 3: I don't know about you, guys, but I make an

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Speaker 3: who is on a wonderful adventure and will be returning.

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Speaker 4: It's a rude vegetable, right is it.

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Speaker 5: It's like a turnup or it's like a turn It

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Speaker 5: is turn It's a cooler word. Okay, interesting, I didn't

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Speaker 2: But there are when you go to Hmart, there are

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Speaker 2: other types of turnips.

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Speaker 4: Why yes.

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Speaker 2: And there are also Korean radishes and other things that

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Speaker 3: Yeah, gosh, man, we should Why aren't we recording this

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Speaker 3: in the produce section of h bart. Also, you know

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Speaker 5: And we've returned, and I've come to you humbly bearing

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Speaker 5: two pieces of listener mail. Humble farmer style, Humble humble

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Speaker 5: farmers style. Guys rip Rebel Moon. But the humble farmer

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Speaker 5: never going to stop talking about it as a concept.

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Speaker 5: But this first one comes from a humble farmer of sorts, Bufort,

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Speaker 5: My friends call me Bufort, and i'd like to think

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Speaker 5: you that as always. Feel free to use my words

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Speaker 5: on air if you'd like. On the recent or a

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Speaker 5: recent listener Mail episode, you guys were discussing sketchy gas

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Speaker 5: stations and by the way, guys really excited about the

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Speaker 5: where we will probably go into a little more detail

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Speaker 5: about this very topic, which is the casino style games

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Speaker 5: I'm an it tech for those sorts of games. I

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Speaker 5: game laws are different from state to state, but here

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Speaker 5: First off, they are not slot machines. It is not gambling.

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Speaker 4: And they are not games of chance. They are games

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Speaker 5: The skill is recognizing a winning move in Tic tac toe,

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Speaker 4: But it is a skill nonetheless.

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Speaker 5: Another key factor is that we as operators have no

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Speaker 4: We legally are not allowed to have any control. Love

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Speaker 4: what you fellas do. Keep up the great work piece Buford, Buford.

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Speaker 5: The gaming laws here in our fair state of Georgia

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Speaker 5: And I think we talked about how you kind of

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Speaker 5: little gambling parlor or the little you know, coin operated

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Speaker 5: Georgia Lottery Corporation. I'm not sure what regulating body is

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Speaker 2: Logo with Georgia, you can get lottery tickets from the

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Speaker 5: I think you redeem them for lottery tickets at the counter.

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Speaker 5: But that does seem Yeah, I see what you're saying, Matt.

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Speaker 3: But are they slot machines their skill machines skilling.

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Speaker 5: Though the term com or coin operated amusement machines seems

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Speaker 3: Yeah, three lawyers. Three lawyers got their Christmas gifts, no question. Also,

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Speaker 3: skill machine was my old street name. It's a good one,

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Speaker 3: Ben DJ's or MC skill machine. Kill machines also kind

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Speaker 3: But here in Georgia, uh, the Georgia Bureau of Investigation

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Speaker 4: To these machines.

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Speaker 2: I buzzkill guys, got an idea, guys, Yeah, let's go.

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Speaker 2: Let's go in with some fellow listeners on a local

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Speaker 2: gas station here in Atlanta. Let's uh, let's you know,

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Speaker 2: these regulators here in Georgia. The gaming conditions right, and

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Speaker 4: But we make.

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Speaker 5: It to what end, well, that's the first step.

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Speaker 2: The rest we would have to write, but it would

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Speaker 3: But I agree with it, and I think match just

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Speaker 3: of So like an example in Japan would be pachinko partlers,

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Speaker 3: I'm doing air quotes so hard, wush wish. You can't

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Speaker 5: It certainly was for me and we you know, we

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Speaker 5: we really quite fancied that Frankenstein, it's a live video

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Speaker 3: Maybe I think you're the one who played it, right.

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Speaker 5: And then lost it all again. That's how it was

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Speaker 5: Forward, down to clown and down with the clown, Great Malenko.

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Speaker 3: We were rolling the dice on that one, just putting

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Speaker 4: So, yeah, I'm with you, Ben, it is a mixed bag.

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Speaker 5: But it does feel like those Class B machines are

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Speaker 4: Agreed, what we're going to move on from that one.

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Speaker 4: So there we go, said it. This is what they

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Speaker 4: The shunka Warakan creature is a new one for me.

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Speaker 5: There was a trend in this region where people made

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Speaker 5: Beware Montana's Shunka Waracan, the Rocky Mountain hyena, bit of

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Speaker 5: But wolf, although the creator could easily be called a wolf.

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Speaker 5: If only we had a carcass, we could figure out

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Speaker 5: There is show us the body. You know, where's the carcass?

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Speaker 4: This is by Dave killing.

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Speaker 5: Back, really really cool, well researched piece, kind of an

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Speaker 4: So it's still the jury is definitely still out.

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Speaker 5: But I'm liking your I'm liking your theories about weird robing,

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Speaker 2: Dude, there is a recent story out of USA today

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Speaker 5: That's exactly right, Matt, and that's certainly one of the

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Speaker 5: do with those carcasses. Birds wouldn't peck on them. We

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Speaker 5: never had any incidents like that before, and we never

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Speaker 5: had any after. If it was predators, why didn't it

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Speaker 5: continue on?

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Speaker 4: It just didn't.

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Speaker 2: Wait a minute, Are we making a connection to Buford

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Speaker 2: and the helicopter rides of the gathering.

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Speaker 5: Exactly last thing in nineteen seventy five September of nineteen

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Speaker 5: seventy five the Colorado Springs, Because that Telegraph reported that

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Speaker 5: El Paso County under Sheriff Gary Gibbs pointed to another

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Speaker 5: possibility of a Satanic cult, referring to nomadic people being responsible.

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Speaker 5: In the past two years, we've found evidence of similar

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Speaker 5: happenings in Pennsylvania, Michigan, Texas, New Mexico, Oklahoma, Kansas, Nebraska,

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Speaker 5: and Wyoming.

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Speaker 4: This isn't a small group. There are several thousand members

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Speaker 4: across the country. This undershriff seems pretty sure of himself.

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Speaker 5: Some people laugh at the idea, but we have been

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Speaker 5: working very hard on the problem and we have definite evidence.

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Speaker 4: We want to catch those people because we don't know.

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Speaker 5: What they'll do when they tire of mutilating cows. Well,

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Speaker 5: they were referred to state crime labs, but apparently the

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Speaker 5: crime labs.

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Speaker 4: Were used to get involved.

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Speaker 5: Said here, I heard from other sheriff offices that that

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Speaker 5: was the case that they were running up against in

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Speaker 5: all of our states. And yeah, it goes on the

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Speaker 5: whole section about FBI file and the predator conclusion not

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Speaker 5: being particularly valid.

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Speaker 4: So boy oh boy, this is a cool read. Do

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Speaker 4: check that one out.

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Speaker 5: Dave killingback Cowboystatedaily dot Com.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, that's all I got for this one.

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Speaker 5: I don't know any any food for thought to leave

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Speaker 5: the listeners with Ben about cattle mutilations.

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Speaker 4: Do you have any pet theories.

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Speaker 3: I'll go ahead and save them for an episode. I

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Speaker 3: agree with you have my this is something that we

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Speaker 3: would love to continue, and I think that's a great

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Speaker 3: point about a new iteration of cryptids you've never heard of.

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Speaker 3: Please check out those episodes if you haven't yet.

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Speaker 5: Awesome, We're going to take a quick break here a

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Speaker 5: word from our sponsor and full disclosure, y'all. I have

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Speaker 5: to take off for an appointment, so if you don't

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Speaker 5: hear me, that's why. But I know you're gonna get

482
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Speaker 5: some excellent listener mails from Matt and Ben.

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Speaker 2: And we've returned and we are jumping to the phone lines.

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Speaker 2: First person we're gonna shout out here is Mohawk. Mick.

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Speaker 2: Mohawk sent us a message a little while back. He

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Speaker 2: has been working the I'm not gonna play this message,

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Speaker 2: but he has been working the Gathering of the Jugglos

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Speaker 2: since twenty thirteen. And Ben he said he has first

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Speaker 2: hand experience with the helicopter ride and he said, oh waittiful.

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Speaker 4: He said it's epic.

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Speaker 3: Imagine So yeah, that's awesome. Thank you Mohawk Mick.

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Speaker 2: But he sent us another message just after listening to

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Speaker 2: our episode where we mentioned the gathering of the Jugglos,

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Speaker 2: which is happening by the way, on August thirteenth through

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Speaker 2: the sixteenth of this year in Thornville, Ohio. If you're interested,

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Speaker 2: we were talking about adding a low to the ends

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Speaker 2: of things. Uh, just in to reference them while you

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Speaker 2: are at the gathering or if you are a self

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Speaker 2: identifying juggalo. So here's mohawk Mick's quick message.

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Speaker 7: I'm sorry I had into to the playing of the podcast.

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Speaker 7: Believe my last message, and just so you know, that

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Speaker 7: would be a mermal low. It would officially be a

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Speaker 7: murmur low. And yes, we are so lame that we

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Speaker 7: add all love to many things. I caught a fishal low.

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Speaker 7: If you ride a bike, you're a bike a low.

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Speaker 7: So it goes on as outrageous as you think. That

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Speaker 7: gets it gets there. We are simple, so very simple.

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Speaker 3: I love it. I love it. The future of humble farmers.

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Speaker 3: Thank you, mohawk Mick.

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Speaker 2: Well there you go. Uh, good information for mohawk Mick,

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Speaker 2: another of our representatives in the juggler community. Let's jump

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Speaker 2: to a message sent to us by KP. It's a

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Speaker 2: short one, but it's a it's a good one.

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Speaker 3: I remember this one.

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Speaker 8: Gentlemen, this is KP. You have my permission voicemail in

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Speaker 8: my voice on you may I think that the so

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Speaker 8: you put a call out any octopus that happened to

518
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Speaker 8: listen to podcasts, and I don't think that's quite a reality.

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Speaker 8: Do you think there might be some octopus that listened

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Speaker 8: to Cephala podcast. Ah, okay, if out.

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Speaker 3: No stay, you found your people, or you know you

522
00:27:17,320 --> 00:27:18,080
Speaker 3: found your show.

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Speaker 2: There you go, Ben. Should we share what happened recently

524
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Speaker 2: off air dealing with cephalopods and a certain song slash musical.

525
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Speaker 3: Oh gosh, I don't know. We're already running pretty long,

526
00:27:31,040 --> 00:27:33,040
Speaker 3: but we can. We'll give you the short skinny and

527
00:27:33,080 --> 00:27:36,719
Speaker 3: it'll be like guaca mole at Chipotle. Upon request. If

528
00:27:36,760 --> 00:27:38,439
Speaker 3: you want to hear more, you can write to us.

529
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Speaker 3: But we went through a phase we were talking about. It

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Speaker 3: was you and Dylan and myself we were we were

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Speaker 3: talking about the strange science put into octopus civilization and

532
00:27:49,600 --> 00:27:54,920
Speaker 3: the possibility of extending the octopus lifespan, which led us

533
00:27:55,040 --> 00:27:58,840
Speaker 3: on a bit of a manic phase to rewrite the

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Speaker 3: first song of the musical Hamilton, all to be all

535
00:28:02,000 --> 00:28:06,040
Speaker 3: about octopus lobotomies. And if you want to read the lyrics,

536
00:28:06,119 --> 00:28:08,399
Speaker 3: write to us and we'll share them with you.

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00:28:08,440 --> 00:28:11,520
Speaker 2: Ah, just do a little, you give us a taste.

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Speaker 3: Sure, So for anybody who knows the first song of Hamilton,

539
00:28:16,200 --> 00:28:19,320
Speaker 3: this will maybe make sense. If you don't, thanks for

540
00:28:19,359 --> 00:28:20,200
Speaker 3: hanging out with us.

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Speaker 4: It goes.

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Speaker 3: Octopus lobotomy. I'm an octopus lobotomy. People wish I had

543
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Speaker 3: a thousand dollars. It's just these eight, just these, and

544
00:28:34,480 --> 00:28:38,360
Speaker 3: it goes on. I'm a squid, I have ten, Like

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00:28:39,040 --> 00:28:40,760
Speaker 3: we have the whole song. So if you want to

546
00:28:40,960 --> 00:28:43,080
Speaker 3: hear it, or if you want to read the lyrics,

547
00:28:43,120 --> 00:28:43,760
Speaker 3: just email us.

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Speaker 2: We should put it out.

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Speaker 3: I'm just saying we should write to Lin Manuel and

550
00:28:50,040 --> 00:28:53,320
Speaker 3: be like, hey, big fans, weird pitch.

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Speaker 2: Let's let's write the Psychopathic records.

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Speaker 3: And yeah, yeah, and KP by the way, hashtag no

553
00:29:03,000 --> 00:29:06,360
Speaker 3: pun left behind. Thank you so much for taking the

554
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Speaker 3: time there. This kind of stuff makes our evening.

555
00:29:09,280 --> 00:29:11,440
Speaker 2: It does, and it's just fun for everybody who listens, right,

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Speaker 2: I think so. So speaking of let's jump to a

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Speaker 2: message from Josie who heard us talking on Strange News.

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Speaker 2: A little thing that Noel mentioned about us, A whole

559
00:29:20,880 --> 00:29:24,880
Speaker 2: town that got infected with the weed, right, and if

560
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Speaker 2: you'll recall that message, I had to do with a giant,

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Speaker 2: deliberate burn of cannabis, and specifically that cannabis was laid

562
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Speaker 2: upon tires and then doused with diesel fuel and then

563
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Speaker 2: satellite and you know, at least according to the reporting

564
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Speaker 2: that the following smoke, and the smoke it generated got

565
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Speaker 2: the entire town a little high and was pretty annoying.

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Speaker 3: And this is in Turkey, where people in that town

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Speaker 3: are not what you would call stoners.

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Speaker 2: Yes, precisely, So let's jump to this message from Josie.

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Speaker 9: My name is Josie, Time Listener, and I absolutely love

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Speaker 9: you guys. I'm listening to your podcast about AI lovers

571
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Speaker 9: and marijuana burning. Diesel fuel and tires are both petroleum

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Speaker 9: based products, which makes them oil based, and THHC becomes

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Speaker 9: more chemically active when combined with oil based products, which

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Speaker 9: is why when people who shall remain me go to

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Speaker 9: make their edicals, we dry the cannabis and a very cool,

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Speaker 9: dry frying pan and then we simmer it for about

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Speaker 9: thirty minutes, sometimes an hour, depending on how much cannabis

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Speaker 9: you have. And my personal choice is coconut oil because

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Speaker 9: it doesn't have any flavor and it has a high

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Speaker 9: melt point. But I have also used olive oil, I've

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Speaker 9: used butter. Now I don't know that I would use diesel,

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Speaker 9: but it explains why so many people were high for

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Speaker 9: so long, and I just got to do the shout

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Speaker 9: out to Agusta Georgia for Noel Brown spent twenty five

585
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Speaker 9: years in my life in that city.

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Speaker 2: There you go some information on oil and cannabis in

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Speaker 2: a little shout out there that unfortunately you Ola has

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Speaker 2: left so he can't respond to that. Sorry about that.

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Speaker 2: I don't know much about oil and cannabis, but that

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Speaker 2: does make sense, I suppose. I recall watching on Netflix

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Speaker 2: there was a whole series on cooking with cannabis where

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Speaker 2: they discussed some of the science behind that and why

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Speaker 2: the fat soluble cannabinoids and all of that stuff they

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Speaker 2: get released more efficiently when you add oil and heat

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Speaker 2: to them, and that would make sense. I think we

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Speaker 2: discussed a little bit of that in that segment, but

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Speaker 2: maybe not fully.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, thank you, Josie. I especially love the line someone

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Speaker 3: who will remain me. That's fantastic.

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Speaker 2: And we've got one last message here from Hidalgo. This

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Speaker 2: is a letter from home, if you will, but in

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Speaker 2: the form of a voicemail. It comes right as graduation

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Speaker 2: season is. It's upon us right now. There are people

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Speaker 2: today as we're recording, they're graduating from various places, various

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Speaker 2: levels of school, especially here in the US, like primary school,

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Speaker 2: graduations are occurring and even high schools, So let's go

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Speaker 2: to Hidalgo.

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Speaker 6: Hey, you guys can use this on the air if

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Speaker 6: you'd like to, but this is Hidalgo. I'm calling to

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Speaker 6: tell you, guys, thank you. My son is getting ready

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Speaker 6: to graduate from high school. And over the last five

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Speaker 6: six eight years, on our way to different sporting events

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Speaker 6: for hockey and lacrosse and to other trips and stuff,

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Speaker 6: we have listened to you guys quite a bit in

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Speaker 6: the car while we're driving. And the other day him

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Speaker 6: and I were talking and you were on the radio,

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Speaker 6: and he goes, Man, I love listening to this show,

618
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Speaker 6: especially the weekly Strange News, because he goes, it keeps

619
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Speaker 6: me up the date on a lot of weird stuff

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Speaker 6: that I can bring up in conversations in class and

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Speaker 6: do a little bit of flex with. They're asking, Hey,

622
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Speaker 6: what's going on in the world that you're concerned about,

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Speaker 6: he goes, and I'm not just throwing out the normal

624
00:33:16,040 --> 00:33:18,560
Speaker 6: political stuff because I've always got something a little weird

625
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Speaker 6: in my back pocket. But he said that he's enjoyed

626
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Speaker 6: listening to you over the years, and here recently he's

627
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Speaker 6: gone back and has listened to the Student Loan Conspiracy

628
00:33:29,200 --> 00:33:31,880
Speaker 6: podcast because we have been filling out a lot of

629
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Speaker 6: that paperwork for his future and his journey off to college.

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Speaker 6: But I'd like to thank you guys for at least

631
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Speaker 6: entertaining us for the last decade or so. But thanks, guys,

632
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Speaker 6: have a great guy.

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Speaker 3: By thank you as I'll go and thank your son

634
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Speaker 3: for us too, most importantly, congratulate him and wish him well. Matt,

635
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Speaker 3: I saw this one too, And these kinds of kind

636
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Speaker 3: words in email correspondence, we're even on the phone. They

637
00:33:59,480 --> 00:34:02,000
Speaker 3: just make our evening. This is awesome and if we

638
00:34:02,000 --> 00:34:06,840
Speaker 3: can help people in any capacity, uh, then we're here

639
00:34:06,880 --> 00:34:09,760
Speaker 3: for it. We also want you to know a doalgo.

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Speaker 3: Not to make us all feel I feel too old,

641
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Speaker 3: but since uh the since Strange News Daily turned into

642
00:34:17,160 --> 00:34:19,480
Speaker 3: Strange News on stuff they don't want you to know,

643
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Speaker 3: the five year anniversary of our weekly Strange News segment

644
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Speaker 3: is coming up. Did you know that, Matt? It's next month?

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Speaker 4: Yeah?

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Speaker 2: Do that is amazing? Heck yeah, we're officially what twelve

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Speaker 2: years in now to the whole thing and then for

648
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Speaker 2: the show, and we got four years until we hit twenty.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, for the for the actual stuff they don't want

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Speaker 3: you to know. As an idea and then the podcast

651
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Speaker 3: is a little bit younger. But yeah, man, let's see

652
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Speaker 3: here's to uh, here's two further explorations and another thing

653
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Speaker 3: a DOGO wanted to ask you about. There are we

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Speaker 3: on the radio? Dude? Did we can make it to

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Speaker 3: the radio?

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Speaker 2: Sometimes we are? Sometimes you play it on the radio,

657
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Speaker 2: but you know, theoretically if you're playing us through your car.

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Speaker 4: So technical kind of like that.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, well, hey, it all go. It sounds like an

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Speaker 2: amazing father son situation you got going on there. That's

661
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Speaker 2: a great thing to share because hopefully our show brings

662
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Speaker 2: out some of the I don't know, the curiosity and y'all,

663
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Speaker 2: and to speak directly to son of Hidalgo, uh, sir,

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Speaker 2: as you're going out in your journeys in this world,

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Speaker 2: try to keep that curiosity because I would say we

666
00:35:33,760 --> 00:35:36,160
Speaker 2: have found that that is one of the primary driving

667
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Speaker 2: forces that has led us to where we are now.

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Speaker 2: So just keep that curiosity, that interest in the strange

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Speaker 2: stuff because again, as we found, the strange stuff is

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Speaker 2: where progress occurs, where the science, you know, where the

671
00:35:51,880 --> 00:35:54,120
Speaker 2: science meets the strange is where the good stuff is.

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Speaker 3: And for a personal message for me, if I may

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Speaker 3: call you hilldal go v Two point oh that I

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Speaker 3: would say we always use this line because it is

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Speaker 3: a fundamental piece of everything we do in these strange endeavors,

676
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Speaker 3: or at least the weird projects I find myself with.

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Speaker 3: It's the axiom we were taught long long ago the

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Speaker 3: world is both understandable and worth understanding. And I love

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Speaker 3: that point about curiosity because it is the prime differentiator

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Speaker 3: between people we call good and people we call great.

681
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Speaker 3: And yes, curiosity may have a diminishing return after a

682
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Speaker 3: certain point, but like the old riddle or the old

683
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Speaker 3: saying about the cat, you never know unless you try

684
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Speaker 3: to be curious. And that is also the defining trade

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Speaker 3: of all great science and all great inquiry. So congratulations

686
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Speaker 3: to yourself and again, safe travels in your life as

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Speaker 3: you move into one of the most exciting phases for

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Speaker 3: in a human life. Congratulations as well, as we mentioned earlier,

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Speaker 3: to all the kids who are working through the college

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Speaker 3: application process.

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Speaker 4: Absolutely, and do hey.

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Speaker 2: For another little strange news thing to check out if

693
00:37:07,840 --> 00:37:12,400
Speaker 2: you haven't seen it yet, search Wired and then Schrodinger's

694
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Speaker 2: Cat Paradox. You'll find a new article about some really

695
00:37:16,520 --> 00:37:18,920
Speaker 2: cool stuff going on with the research team in China

696
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Speaker 2: and Quantum Superposition. Check it out, Son of Hidalgo and

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Speaker 2: Hoodalgo Father. Okay, that's it for this segment. We will

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Speaker 2: be right back afterward from our sponsors for more messages

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Speaker 2: from you.

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Speaker 3: And we've returned to the final act of our weekly

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Speaker 3: listener mail segment. We're going to go through a couple

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Speaker 3: very quickly here, one being full disclosure, folks, a teaser

703
00:37:45,000 --> 00:37:48,160
Speaker 3: for an episode that I think will be pretty fascinating

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Speaker 3: Matt and I'll see if you agree as we continue. So, first,

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Speaker 3: we're going to go to our returning aviator friend. We

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Speaker 3: love having experts in the field. Fatigue them flying. Fatigued

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Speaker 3: and Flying follows up on a conversation we had either

708
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Speaker 3: in an episode or may I think was strange news

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Speaker 3: about the recent terrifying failures in aviation here in the

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Speaker 3: United States. Here's what you said, Fatigued and Flying. Hello, all,

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Speaker 3: I'm sure I won't be the only one to email

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Speaker 3: about this, but anyway, the article I have linked here,

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Speaker 3: which we'll refer to in a second, is mostly comprehensive,

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Speaker 3: but it is missing a few key points about ATC

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Speaker 3: shortage air traffic control shortages. This is says, Fatigued and

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Speaker 3: Flying indicative of the general breakdown of US infrastructure we've

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Speaker 3: seen in other areas. We need a reasonable overhaul schedule,

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Speaker 3: which we do have. The previous administration has been complying

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Speaker 3: with the schedule laid out in next Gen, and here,

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Speaker 3: Fatigued and Flying, you have provided a great link to

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Speaker 3: the FAA dot gov forward slash next Gen that's shorthand

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Speaker 3: for next Generation Air transp Rotation System, a large scale

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Speaker 3: FAA initiative to modernize the US National Airspace System or NAS,

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Speaker 3: which is where the rapper gets his name from. Nice yeah,

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Speaker 3: I mean listen to the lyrics, folks. So Fatigue and

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Speaker 3: Flying continues and says, let's start by saying the current

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Speaker 3: dot secretary is full of it. Their plan to rush

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Speaker 3: the schedule is shortsighted. Honestly, there's nothing there that wasn't

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Speaker 3: already being implemented. If anything, they're just trying to get

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Speaker 3: to those goals in an unrealistic timeframe. NEWERK needs specific

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Speaker 3: focus right now, and I'm going to paraphrase some of

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Speaker 3: this for time of Fatigue and Flying. You note that

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Speaker 3: the next Gen schedule from the FAA is reasonable and

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Speaker 3: it's a schedule of some very important and pretty complicated,

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Speaker 3: time intensive things, an overhaul of a multi faceted flight

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Speaker 3: scheduling regime.

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Speaker 4: You say.

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Speaker 3: Communications are a key part of this, but there are

739
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Speaker 3: growing when you can't just pull a system offline, so

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Speaker 3: you have to do this while planes are still flying.

741
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Speaker 3: You have to fix the car while it is driving

742
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Speaker 3: on the road. Right for another transit analogy, and this

743
00:40:15,120 --> 00:40:18,799
Speaker 3: leads fatigued and flying to name a couple of other

744
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Speaker 3: issues that people might not be aware of when you

745
00:40:22,440 --> 00:40:26,720
Speaker 3: hear the news unless you're in aviation. You say, along

746
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Speaker 3: with the technological issues, there there's also staffing. The average

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Speaker 3: controller air traffic controller takes up to two years or

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Speaker 3: longer to get online to become a working ATC from

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Speaker 3: their date of hire. That's very understandable because by the

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Speaker 3: end they need to know every part of the sector

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Speaker 3: they work in, and this builds in lag time to

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Speaker 3: the entire situation. And then there's a really interesting point, Matt.

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Speaker 3: Then you are medically retired at fifty six, but the

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Speaker 3: FAA has built a guard to this by requiring you

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Speaker 3: be under the age of thirty one at the time

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Speaker 3: of hiring. So, unfortunately to all our human conspiracy realists

757
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Speaker 3: over the age of thirty one. It's going to be

758
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Speaker 3: tough for you to become an air traffic controller. And then,

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Speaker 3: on top of this, says Fatigued andm Flying, you have

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Speaker 3: the actual ATC texts required to repair and upgrade all

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Speaker 3: these systems, and they are woefully understaffed. Fatigued Tom Flying,

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Speaker 3: you gave us permission to share this, so we'll say,

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Speaker 3: we'll disclose that you had a navigational aid in your

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Speaker 3: area destroyed by a tornado and just got alerted that

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Speaker 3: instead of being repaired, it was entirely removed from the

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Speaker 3: national system. And then Fatigued im flying. I love the way,

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Speaker 3: right man, he says, I fly airplanes for a living.

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Speaker 3: I don't write stuff, so please excuse the Bramplet ten

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Speaker 3: ten no notes, you're nailing it. My point here, you say,

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Speaker 3: is there is absolutely a schedule, There is a path forward.

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Speaker 3: Maybe just avoid Newark for the near future. It's having

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Speaker 3: a rough time. Other controllers are reminding their members there

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Speaker 3: to focus on mental health and if that requires calling

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Speaker 3: in sick or fatigued. ATC zero is a term I'm

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00:42:09,320 --> 00:42:11,960
Speaker 3: sure we've all heard by now. And frankly, if the

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Speaker 3: airlines just canceled stuff, there will be no degradation of safety.

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Speaker 3: It's much more unsafe to have an understaffed control facility

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Speaker 3: over just no one showing up. It doesn't help that

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Speaker 3: their own union leaders are less than helpful. The FAA

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00:42:26,360 --> 00:42:29,520
Speaker 3: needs to up incentives and support to get more folks in.

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Speaker 3: Privatization is not the answer here for many reasons. All

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Speaker 3: in all, it's a rough time in New York right now,

783
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Speaker 3: but there is and has been a plan Before we

784
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Speaker 3: go to that CNN article. Matt any initial reactions.

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Speaker 2: I got a little distracted there by the sign off

786
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Speaker 2: that he used, So I'll jump to that when we

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Speaker 2: get there.

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Speaker 3: Copy Okay. In that case, we are going to continue

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Speaker 3: to the CNN article you have linked, Fatigued and Flying.

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Speaker 3: You sent a excellent article by Pete Muntian and Alexandra

791
00:43:02,400 --> 00:43:07,360
Speaker 3: scores Dot secretary blames Biden administration for air traffic control

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Speaker 3: failures as Newark experiences more delay. And this is a

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Speaker 3: direct statement from Sean Duffy that we mentioned in our

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Speaker 3: previous Weekly Strange News segment. Duffy does say, speaking to

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Speaker 3: reporters on May twelfth, twenty twenty five, the following quote,

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Speaker 3: I think it's clear that the blame belongs with the

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Speaker 3: last administration. Pete Buddha, Jedge and Joe Biden did nothing

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Speaker 3: to fix the system that they knew was broken. Duffy

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Speaker 3: says that a Buddha judge advisor, in particular Chris Mager quote,

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Speaker 3: needs to spend more time doing what the American people

801
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Speaker 3: are paying him to do fix problems, and less time

802
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Speaker 3: blaming others, which just logically is a little bit tricky

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Speaker 3: because in that statement Duffy is blaming others, you know

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Speaker 3: what I mean. So it's it's a bit of it's

805
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Speaker 3: a bit of a pickle, and it's something we see,

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Speaker 3: you know, with a lot of presidential administrations. If you're

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00:44:04,760 --> 00:44:08,360
Speaker 3: in hot water, blame the other guy, right, and then

808
00:44:09,400 --> 00:44:11,800
Speaker 3: if the other guy happened to do something that benefits

809
00:44:11,840 --> 00:44:16,160
Speaker 3: your current administration, take credit for that. This is I

810
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Speaker 3: don't know, this is crazy because the biggest point is

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Speaker 3: that the plan that the FAA has isn't being as

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Speaker 3: widely reported. It doesn't make as much news as the

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Speaker 3: various terribly inconvenient and at times extremely dangerous mishaps that

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Speaker 3: cuts some power and so on. We do know that

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Speaker 3: the US is reliant upon air transit and aviation. It's

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Speaker 3: a huge industry. It employs a lot of people, and

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00:44:45,719 --> 00:44:48,800
Speaker 3: it affects the economy in ways that are very difficult

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Speaker 3: to parse. With this, I don't know. I don't want

819
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Speaker 3: to sound too cynical here Fatigued and flying, but I

820
00:44:58,880 --> 00:45:02,480
Speaker 3: feel like you have. You have nailed some of the

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Speaker 3: issues so accurately in a way that makes me think

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Speaker 3: a lot of them are not going to be fixed

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Speaker 3: immediately until they have a further impact either on the

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Speaker 3: larger public or to the point I made earlier when

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Speaker 3: we talked about this on the people in power, right

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Speaker 3: when the private airfields and private planes start having more

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Speaker 3: and more issues than we might see more of an

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Speaker 3: impetus to action. Matt. The sign off you mentioned that

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Speaker 3: you said distracted you is it reminds me of the

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Speaker 3: old thing my biker friends used to say, which is

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Speaker 3: keep the shiny side up sign off fatigue and flying,

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Speaker 3: and that I think it's safe for us to reveal

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Speaker 3: that our good pal brother Andrew treyfors Howard is himself

834
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Speaker 3: a biker. And Andrew, if you're hearing this, keep the

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Speaker 3: shiny side up as well. Also great advice for planes.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, absolutely. I didn't know it was a trucking thing too.

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Speaker 2: Keep the shiny side up. I guess the part underneath

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00:46:02,960 --> 00:46:05,319
Speaker 2: the truck is not that shiny. You don't want it,

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Speaker 2: you know, flipped over on the other side. But with planes,

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00:46:08,480 --> 00:46:12,640
Speaker 2: I didn't understand. I've never thought of it in that way. Specifically,

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00:46:12,719 --> 00:46:17,319
Speaker 2: it's advice basically for a pilot too, don't do anything

842
00:46:17,600 --> 00:46:21,520
Speaker 2: in between leveling off your plane. And maybe I'm wrong there.

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00:46:21,719 --> 00:46:23,719
Speaker 2: You'll have to let us know fatigued and flying if

844
00:46:23,719 --> 00:46:25,799
Speaker 2: that's what it means. Just the idea of if you're

845
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Speaker 2: in a climb, don't do a bunch of other stuff

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Speaker 2: before you level off the plane. Then do that kind

847
00:46:31,960 --> 00:46:35,239
Speaker 2: of you know, the needful other things that you have

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Speaker 2: to do inside the cockpit, all the navigation stuff, all

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Speaker 2: the you know, connecting up with other people and communicating

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00:46:41,440 --> 00:46:43,720
Speaker 2: go ahead, level that plane off, then do that stuff.

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Speaker 2: Keep the shiny side up.

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Speaker 3: Always fantastic advice.

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Speaker 9: Uh.

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Speaker 3: From there, we're going to oh yeah, we'll include it.

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00:46:53,440 --> 00:46:55,400
Speaker 3: I know we're running along, but I want to include

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00:46:55,440 --> 00:46:58,880
Speaker 3: this message from Frosty Cold. I think it could inspire

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00:46:59,000 --> 00:47:03,719
Speaker 3: again a fascinating episode either here on Ridiculous History. I'd

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00:47:03,719 --> 00:47:07,640
Speaker 3: love your thoughts, Matt, Frosty Cold one number one. You

859
00:47:07,680 --> 00:47:10,040
Speaker 3: write to us and you say hello, stuff. They don't

860
00:47:10,040 --> 00:47:12,680
Speaker 3: want you to know. They call me Frosty Cold one.

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Speaker 3: Well you know what we will too. You continue. I

862
00:47:16,120 --> 00:47:18,200
Speaker 3: was wondering if you could look into what happened to

863
00:47:18,239 --> 00:47:22,560
Speaker 3: the missing Faberge eggs. Of the original sixty nine eggs

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Speaker 3: created by the House of Faberge Czarist Russia, six of

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Speaker 3: the imperial eggs are still lost. These eggs, as well

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Speaker 3: as the jewelry surprises that were made with them, would

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Speaker 3: be worth an absolute fortune today, but I can't find

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Speaker 3: much information on them. Can you help? Thanks again, love

869
00:47:41,160 --> 00:47:47,080
Speaker 3: the show, Frosty Cold One. Well, we could introduce all

870
00:47:47,160 --> 00:47:50,879
Speaker 3: of our fellow conspiracy realists to the concept and then

871
00:47:51,040 --> 00:47:56,239
Speaker 3: hopefully we can do an episode on this. Because Matt,

872
00:47:56,320 --> 00:47:58,280
Speaker 3: I don't know about you, I don't know about Andrew,

873
00:47:58,520 --> 00:48:03,000
Speaker 3: but I always found just the concept of Faberge eggs

874
00:48:03,040 --> 00:48:06,760
Speaker 3: so freaking weird. It's so weird.

875
00:48:07,080 --> 00:48:11,600
Speaker 2: Well, it's such a common trope in films just to

876
00:48:12,160 --> 00:48:16,919
Speaker 2: use the term Faberge eggs, or even a Faberge egg

877
00:48:17,040 --> 00:48:18,680
Speaker 2: that you're not even really sure what it is. It

878
00:48:18,680 --> 00:48:21,120
Speaker 2: looks like a jewel encrusted egg What is that? But

879
00:48:21,160 --> 00:48:24,560
Speaker 2: it's huge? Why isn't there? Why is it important? I

880
00:48:24,680 --> 00:48:27,839
Speaker 2: knew nothing of the history until we got this communication

881
00:48:27,920 --> 00:48:30,320
Speaker 2: and went down a bit of a rabbit hole about

882
00:48:30,719 --> 00:48:33,280
Speaker 2: how they're created, when they were created, why they were created,

883
00:48:33,480 --> 00:48:35,040
Speaker 2: and then how many are still missing?

884
00:48:35,680 --> 00:48:35,919
Speaker 5: Right?

885
00:48:36,160 --> 00:48:40,560
Speaker 3: Right? And my go to pop culture reference for this

886
00:48:41,320 --> 00:48:44,719
Speaker 3: is always going to be Crusty, the clown in The

887
00:48:44,760 --> 00:48:48,759
Speaker 3: Simpsons when he talks about his debilitating addiction to Faberge

888
00:48:48,920 --> 00:48:52,160
Speaker 3: eggs which ruined his, you know, the financial side of

889
00:48:52,200 --> 00:49:00,879
Speaker 3: his career. Faber Ja eggs are bejeweled encrusted eggs. They

890
00:49:00,920 --> 00:49:04,680
Speaker 3: were first made in Saint Petersburg, Russia. We know, you know,

891
00:49:04,760 --> 00:49:08,200
Speaker 3: Frosty Gold. You nailed it, Frosti Gold. One sixty nine

892
00:49:08,880 --> 00:49:11,200
Speaker 3: were made, as many as we know of, right, and

893
00:49:11,680 --> 00:49:16,359
Speaker 3: from there spraying countless imitations, right or reproductions. But the

894
00:49:16,400 --> 00:49:19,439
Speaker 3: ones that were originally made, sixty one of those are

895
00:49:19,520 --> 00:49:25,120
Speaker 3: still known to have survived. So the other eight are

896
00:49:25,480 --> 00:49:29,200
Speaker 3: lost or destroyed. And usually when something of this opulence

897
00:49:29,560 --> 00:49:34,680
Speaker 3: or this value is considered lost or destroyed, there's a high,

898
00:49:34,920 --> 00:49:37,440
Speaker 3: I want to be fair, there's a non zero likelihood

899
00:49:37,520 --> 00:49:41,120
Speaker 3: that they're in a very wealthy person's private collection, you

900
00:49:41,120 --> 00:49:44,600
Speaker 3: know what I mean, there's somewhere in like a Chik's compound.

901
00:49:45,360 --> 00:49:49,160
Speaker 3: There's a Russian oligarch who's like, this is my egg.

902
00:49:49,760 --> 00:49:53,480
Speaker 2: Well, in twenty twenty two, they found one of these

903
00:49:53,480 --> 00:49:57,800
Speaker 2: things on a Russian oligarch's super yacht, a three hundred

904
00:49:57,840 --> 00:50:00,920
Speaker 2: million dollar yacht. They found one these things hidden.

905
00:50:01,200 --> 00:50:04,839
Speaker 3: Yeah, exactly, this is This means that there is an

906
00:50:04,880 --> 00:50:08,560
Speaker 3: active search for these eggs. I think it would make

907
00:50:08,600 --> 00:50:10,920
Speaker 3: a good episode, Matt. I'd love to do this when

908
00:50:11,080 --> 00:50:15,560
Speaker 3: together because to me, the I'll spare it the personal anecdotes.

909
00:50:15,600 --> 00:50:20,160
Speaker 3: But historically, always my immedia question, and I hope a

910
00:50:20,200 --> 00:50:22,319
Speaker 3: lot of other folks in media question has always been this,

911
00:50:23,080 --> 00:50:27,280
Speaker 3: why would you make Why? Why would you make this? What?

912
00:50:26,920 --> 00:50:26,960
Speaker 6: What?

913
00:50:27,280 --> 00:50:32,440
Speaker 3: What is the point? It is not functional? You know,

914
00:50:32,560 --> 00:50:36,680
Speaker 3: it's not a real egg. Really, if you open these

915
00:50:36,680 --> 00:50:40,319
Speaker 3: eggs you see cool stuff inside. A descendant of it

916
00:50:40,360 --> 00:50:43,520
Speaker 3: would be the Kinderreg candy or the Kinderreg you know,

917
00:50:43,800 --> 00:50:47,760
Speaker 3: the chocolate egg shape things with the cool little toys inside.

918
00:50:47,800 --> 00:50:48,960
Speaker 3: Did you ever have kinder eggs?

919
00:50:49,960 --> 00:50:50,400
Speaker 4: Yeah?

920
00:50:50,520 --> 00:50:54,200
Speaker 2: I'm trying to think that there's another company that also

921
00:50:54,280 --> 00:50:57,040
Speaker 2: makes them like that but there's the one I think about.

922
00:50:58,080 --> 00:51:01,480
Speaker 3: Yeah, and this. So I'm just bringing this in because

923
00:51:01,560 --> 00:51:05,040
Speaker 3: we want to hear from you at conspiracyiheartradio dot com

924
00:51:05,480 --> 00:51:09,839
Speaker 3: if you would like a show on Faberge eggs and

925
00:51:09,920 --> 00:51:15,080
Speaker 3: the mystery technically the conspiracy to hide them. Also, please

926
00:51:15,120 --> 00:51:18,840
Speaker 3: please please tell us why. I don't want to be

927
00:51:18,880 --> 00:51:22,280
Speaker 3: like Dunking on creativity. You know, I applaud all artistry

928
00:51:22,320 --> 00:51:24,799
Speaker 3: as long as it doesn't harm other people. But out

929
00:51:24,840 --> 00:51:27,000
Speaker 3: of all the things you make, we got to find

930
00:51:27,000 --> 00:51:32,399
Speaker 3: the origin story in our episode as to that inspirational

931
00:51:32,480 --> 00:51:35,280
Speaker 3: moment where you're a goldsmith and you're making these gifts

932
00:51:35,320 --> 00:51:37,120
Speaker 3: and then you have that you have that what was

933
00:51:37,160 --> 00:51:40,000
Speaker 3: your light bulb or broken egg moment where you were like,

934
00:51:41,160 --> 00:51:44,319
Speaker 3: I need to make a fancy egg. I need to

935
00:51:44,320 --> 00:51:47,879
Speaker 3: make the fanciest egg. And someone's like Benedict and you go, no.

936
00:51:48,960 --> 00:51:53,960
Speaker 2: Gold, Yeah, all kinds of different precious metals and gems

937
00:51:54,000 --> 00:51:56,520
Speaker 2: and jewels. Well, I think it's all about the surprise.

938
00:51:56,600 --> 00:51:56,759
Speaker 9: Man.

939
00:51:56,800 --> 00:51:59,640
Speaker 2: You're right, Like, I'm looking at a wiki of these

940
00:51:59,719 --> 00:52:04,040
Speaker 2: right now, and there's one that had an automaton, an

941
00:52:04,040 --> 00:52:07,960
Speaker 2: elephant automaton inside it, So like, really the egg is

942
00:52:08,000 --> 00:52:10,200
Speaker 2: cool and everything, but if you can get it open,

943
00:52:10,520 --> 00:52:12,480
Speaker 2: and if you're the person that owns it, you know

944
00:52:12,520 --> 00:52:14,479
Speaker 2: what the surprise is. But then you get to show

945
00:52:14,520 --> 00:52:17,720
Speaker 2: it off in your fancy ball room, your.

946
00:52:17,560 --> 00:52:23,360
Speaker 3: Fancy balls room. So we've so we're gonna hopefully return

947
00:52:23,400 --> 00:52:26,520
Speaker 3: to that. We'd love your thoughts, folks. One last thing,

948
00:52:26,560 --> 00:52:29,279
Speaker 3: a letter from a home that is also fascinating. Maybe

949
00:52:29,320 --> 00:52:31,200
Speaker 3: we can have a quick discussion about this to close

950
00:52:31,239 --> 00:52:34,920
Speaker 3: things out. Our pal mister Stuff, they don't want you

951
00:52:34,960 --> 00:52:37,759
Speaker 3: to sandwich. Good returning guest of the show wrote it

952
00:52:37,880 --> 00:52:40,040
Speaker 3: and said, hello, Stuff, They don't want you to know

953
00:52:40,520 --> 00:52:45,040
Speaker 3: you always mentioned this specifically to me, always mentioned you

954
00:52:45,040 --> 00:52:47,280
Speaker 3: fell asleep putting on a pair of pants one time.

955
00:52:47,520 --> 00:52:49,520
Speaker 3: I wanted to let you know that I too, feel

956
00:52:49,520 --> 00:52:52,400
Speaker 3: like I achieved this level of accomplishment every time I

957
00:52:52,480 --> 00:52:55,399
Speaker 3: listen to my Liked Songs playlist and wonder why all

958
00:52:55,400 --> 00:52:58,400
Speaker 3: the songs on there are bangers. Keep on keeping on

959
00:52:58,719 --> 00:53:01,839
Speaker 3: and have a sandwich, not a doctor, but I hear

960
00:53:02,040 --> 00:53:05,440
Speaker 3: it can help. And this introduces us, Matt Andrew and

961
00:53:05,440 --> 00:53:10,200
Speaker 3: fellow listeners to something called the hungry judge effect. This

962
00:53:10,280 --> 00:53:13,680
Speaker 3: is the idea that in a court of law, a

963
00:53:13,800 --> 00:53:17,799
Speaker 3: judge's verdicts are going to be more lenient after they've

964
00:53:17,840 --> 00:53:22,120
Speaker 3: had a break for a snack or for lunch, and

965
00:53:22,480 --> 00:53:24,560
Speaker 3: the idea that you're in a better mood, right, You're

966
00:53:24,600 --> 00:53:27,040
Speaker 3: not you when you're hungry. Just like Snicker said.

967
00:53:27,400 --> 00:53:29,920
Speaker 2: Well that's this human. I mean, have it. I got

968
00:53:29,920 --> 00:53:32,640
Speaker 2: two nine year olds running around, and I'd say, we

969
00:53:32,840 --> 00:53:36,239
Speaker 2: know very well in this house what hungary looks like,

970
00:53:36,400 --> 00:53:40,240
Speaker 2: what it sounds like. I know how I get sometimes. Yeah, dude,

971
00:53:40,280 --> 00:53:44,480
Speaker 2: if a judge is just a human with a fancy smock,

972
00:53:45,800 --> 00:53:49,200
Speaker 2: what do they call as robes? A fancy robe and

973
00:53:49,239 --> 00:53:51,160
Speaker 2: a lot of schooling and a lot of experience in

974
00:53:51,200 --> 00:53:54,360
Speaker 2: wisdom and you know other things. But I can imagine

975
00:53:54,400 --> 00:53:57,799
Speaker 2: how being a little hungry could affect the outcome or

976
00:53:57,840 --> 00:54:03,800
Speaker 2: how someone else is judged. Dude, No, I've noticed that specifically.

977
00:54:03,800 --> 00:54:06,879
Speaker 2: I just had a conversation about this, about how we've

978
00:54:06,880 --> 00:54:10,720
Speaker 2: talked about how all the input that we intake as humans,

979
00:54:11,040 --> 00:54:13,960
Speaker 2: no matter who you are, is affected by a lens.

980
00:54:14,000 --> 00:54:18,520
Speaker 2: There's a lensing effect that the way you receive information

981
00:54:18,800 --> 00:54:22,160
Speaker 2: can be altered and changed and how you perceive it

982
00:54:22,239 --> 00:54:25,120
Speaker 2: depending on how you're feeling, or your past or all

983
00:54:25,200 --> 00:54:27,960
Speaker 2: these other things. That kind of color your lens. It's

984
00:54:27,960 --> 00:54:30,799
Speaker 2: the same with a judge. If they're hungry, something might

985
00:54:30,880 --> 00:54:33,360
Speaker 2: seem a little more harsh to them, or a little

986
00:54:33,400 --> 00:54:37,280
Speaker 2: more reckless, even anything, you know, anything that they're hearing

987
00:54:37,320 --> 00:54:40,640
Speaker 2: about or receiving, or even evidence they're looking at.

988
00:54:40,840 --> 00:54:46,360
Speaker 3: So and the original inspiration for the idea of the

989
00:54:46,480 --> 00:54:51,400
Speaker 3: a hungry judge effect comes from this retroactive study of

990
00:54:52,000 --> 00:54:56,560
Speaker 3: decisions made by Israeli parole boards back in twenty eleven.

991
00:54:56,920 --> 00:55:00,040
Speaker 3: And this study you can find it online. The the

992
00:55:00,120 --> 00:55:05,120
Speaker 3: title is Extraneous Factors in Judicial Decisions. And you know,

993
00:55:05,160 --> 00:55:08,120
Speaker 3: it confirms something a lot of people have a spidery

994
00:55:08,239 --> 00:55:10,560
Speaker 3: sense about. You know, if you have a job where

995
00:55:10,560 --> 00:55:14,080
Speaker 3: you have to work with coworkers, which most people have

996
00:55:14,120 --> 00:55:15,759
Speaker 3: a job where they have to work with coworkers, you're

997
00:55:15,760 --> 00:55:19,000
Speaker 3: probably noticing some of the stuff that Sandwich and Matter

998
00:55:19,160 --> 00:55:23,960
Speaker 3: describing there. This original study found that there was a

999
00:55:24,400 --> 00:55:29,040
Speaker 3: natural slope to yes or no decisions for granting parole.

1000
00:55:29,600 --> 00:55:32,480
Speaker 3: It would start at about sixty five percent at the

1001
00:55:32,520 --> 00:55:36,080
Speaker 3: beginning of one of these parole board sessions, so kind

1002
00:55:36,080 --> 00:55:38,520
Speaker 3: of in the morning, right after people have had breakfast

1003
00:55:38,600 --> 00:55:41,680
Speaker 3: or what have you. More than half of these parole

1004
00:55:41,719 --> 00:55:46,160
Speaker 3: applications would be approved. But then right before it was

1005
00:55:46,200 --> 00:55:50,840
Speaker 3: time to break for lunch, especially considering people knew the

1006
00:55:50,880 --> 00:55:55,719
Speaker 3: break was coming, the granted a parole dropped out to

1007
00:55:55,800 --> 00:55:58,759
Speaker 3: nearly zero. So the authors of this study, and let's

1008
00:55:58,760 --> 00:56:02,160
Speaker 3: give their names, the author of the study, Shy Danziger,

1009
00:56:02,360 --> 00:56:07,600
Speaker 3: Jonathan levav and Leora av naan Peso. These three authors said,

1010
00:56:08,560 --> 00:56:13,960
Speaker 3: maybe they're increasingly favoring just the status quo. The easiest

1011
00:56:14,000 --> 00:56:18,160
Speaker 3: answer being no, it generates the least amount of paperwork. Right,

1012
00:56:18,320 --> 00:56:23,560
Speaker 3: Maybe they're going toward that because they are fatigued, they

1013
00:56:23,560 --> 00:56:26,440
Speaker 3: are mentally depleted from having to do all the other stuff,

1014
00:56:26,440 --> 00:56:29,359
Speaker 3: evaluate all the other cases leading up to lunch and

1015
00:56:30,040 --> 00:56:33,360
Speaker 3: rest and replenishment. Maybe a nice walk around the block

1016
00:56:33,480 --> 00:56:38,160
Speaker 3: or something that restored a willingness to make bold decisions.

1017
00:56:38,239 --> 00:56:41,920
Speaker 3: It reinvigorated you, right, and you're not as you're not

1018
00:56:42,000 --> 00:56:45,320
Speaker 3: as hesitant to do things that may make a little

1019
00:56:45,360 --> 00:56:48,360
Speaker 3: more work down the line or may raise more questions.

1020
00:56:48,760 --> 00:56:52,799
Speaker 3: This gets cited all the time. It has literally been

1021
00:56:52,840 --> 00:56:56,640
Speaker 3: cited in thousands of other works, and people are still

1022
00:56:57,800 --> 00:57:02,560
Speaker 3: arguing about it. Some folks are saying, you know, maybe

1023
00:57:02,600 --> 00:57:06,839
Speaker 3: we should start considering algorithms or some version of quote

1024
00:57:06,920 --> 00:57:11,560
Speaker 3: unquote AI to avoid the hungry judge effect. And no, granted,

1025
00:57:11,600 --> 00:57:13,600
Speaker 3: a lot of folks who are saying we should use

1026
00:57:13,640 --> 00:57:17,120
Speaker 3: AI as a result a hungry judge effect. Well, they're

1027
00:57:17,160 --> 00:57:20,080
Speaker 3: folks who run a AI companies, you know what I mean.

1028
00:57:20,080 --> 00:57:22,600
Speaker 3: They want to sell that stuff, so obviously they're going

1029
00:57:22,680 --> 00:57:27,280
Speaker 3: to make an argument in favor of their narrative. You

1030
00:57:27,280 --> 00:57:32,880
Speaker 3: can also see other studies regarding Ramadan and how people

1031
00:57:32,960 --> 00:57:35,480
Speaker 3: may or may not be kinder around that time. You

1032
00:57:35,560 --> 00:57:37,960
Speaker 3: might you know, this exists I think in the same

1033
00:57:38,040 --> 00:57:41,760
Speaker 3: rough sphere as the old folksy observation that people are

1034
00:57:41,760 --> 00:57:45,600
Speaker 3: a little bit nicer around Christmas. Obviously, the best real

1035
00:57:45,640 --> 00:57:48,760
Speaker 3: world study of that is Scrooged starring Bill Murray.

1036
00:57:49,080 --> 00:57:52,000
Speaker 2: Remember Scrooged, a real world version of that.

1037
00:57:52,000 --> 00:57:55,520
Speaker 3: Yet absolutely fantastic documentary. Be careful with that joke gets

1038
00:57:55,560 --> 00:58:00,320
Speaker 3: an antique. But you know, Matt, I recently red watch

1039
00:58:00,560 --> 00:58:05,240
Speaker 3: the ending monologue of Scrooge, which is always seen as

1040
00:58:05,320 --> 00:58:09,320
Speaker 3: this pivotal moment, but it's it's very much in line

1041
00:58:09,360 --> 00:58:13,520
Speaker 3: with a politician speech if you read it instead of

1042
00:58:13,560 --> 00:58:16,920
Speaker 3: just hearing it and feeling the contagious energy he's not

1043
00:58:17,120 --> 00:58:19,680
Speaker 3: saying that much. He said, you want a thing, and

1044
00:58:19,720 --> 00:58:21,360
Speaker 3: you could get a thing. You can have it. It

1045
00:58:21,400 --> 00:58:24,320
Speaker 3: could be yours, it's Christmas. And then he kisses somebody.

1046
00:58:24,320 --> 00:58:27,000
Speaker 3: He's like, that's great, and then Tidy Tim says something

1047
00:58:27,120 --> 00:58:32,040
Speaker 3: spoiler and and I don't know, man, I don't know

1048
00:58:32,080 --> 00:58:34,640
Speaker 3: if the I feel like the hungry Judge effect has

1049
00:58:34,720 --> 00:58:37,000
Speaker 3: to be real, but I don't know how far it goes.

1050
00:58:38,440 --> 00:58:42,320
Speaker 2: Yeah, it seems like it's absolutely real. It's just I

1051
00:58:42,320 --> 00:58:45,200
Speaker 2: have not seen Scrooged in a long time. I will

1052
00:58:45,240 --> 00:58:48,120
Speaker 2: watch that monologue as well. I'd love to I'd love

1053
00:58:48,160 --> 00:58:48,880
Speaker 2: to see that again.

1054
00:58:49,160 --> 00:58:51,080
Speaker 3: I'd love to hear your thoughts. And you know, I'm

1055
00:58:51,080 --> 00:58:53,600
Speaker 3: a I'm a fan of Scrooged. I'm a fan of

1056
00:58:53,640 --> 00:58:59,200
Speaker 3: that genre of creepy holiday film and fiction. You know

1057
00:58:59,240 --> 00:59:03,280
Speaker 3: what I mean? Before Christmas stem to stern Banger, no notes.

1058
00:59:03,720 --> 00:59:06,720
Speaker 3: I've tried to think of other creepy Christmas these crampis

1059
00:59:06,960 --> 00:59:10,919
Speaker 3: not that in that league, but still in that genre. Else.

1060
00:59:11,160 --> 00:59:14,880
Speaker 2: Yeah, A jingle all the Way is mine very creepy.

1061
00:59:15,360 --> 00:59:18,360
Speaker 3: That's a good one. I guess The Grinch Stole Christmas

1062
00:59:18,400 --> 00:59:21,200
Speaker 3: is also creepy because it's got scary parts.

1063
00:59:21,760 --> 00:59:25,000
Speaker 2: Kids are terrified of that Grinch, that version of the Grinch,

1064
00:59:25,000 --> 00:59:26,920
Speaker 2: at least the one that Jim Carrey inhabited.

1065
00:59:27,480 --> 00:59:29,520
Speaker 3: Oh yeah, yeah, I mean it's a weird looking dude.

1066
00:59:29,800 --> 00:59:32,520
Speaker 3: And they never explain why he looks so different from

1067
00:59:32,520 --> 00:59:34,880
Speaker 3: the who's you know what I mean? Why is he

1068
00:59:35,040 --> 00:59:40,400
Speaker 3: like their yarn? Why is he there Bigfoot? Christmas hating Bigfoot? Oh,

1069
00:59:40,440 --> 00:59:44,920
Speaker 3: we're going to a thousand directions here, We're going to pause.

1070
00:59:45,520 --> 00:59:48,520
Speaker 3: We'll be off to activigate. So thanks to Frosty gold

1071
00:59:48,560 --> 00:59:52,360
Speaker 3: One fatigued and flying the stoned coyote, who is the

1072
00:59:52,360 --> 00:59:56,520
Speaker 3: one who pointed out the possible kangaroo related death stuff,

1073
00:59:56,520 --> 00:59:59,640
Speaker 3: They want you Sandwich KP Josie head all go have

1074
00:59:59,800 --> 01:00:02,680
Speaker 3: my I've fart been stinking self proclaimed to the micronation

1075
01:00:02,800 --> 01:00:05,640
Speaker 3: of two D fruity Land. We wish you luck, your

1076
01:00:05,720 --> 01:00:09,880
Speaker 3: highness or president or Prime Minister ed of course, thanks

1077
01:00:09,920 --> 01:00:15,040
Speaker 3: to Buford. Now we did roll over that earlier job

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Speaker 3: offer Buford, so I want to say it one more

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Speaker 3: time so it doesn't get dismissed or lost. We love

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Speaker 3: us a good old fashioned email. You can find us

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Speaker 3: online where we are on any social media might sip

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Speaker 3: we'll be conspiracy stuff, show conspiracy stuff, or some derivation thereof.

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Speaker 3: If you would like to use a telephonic device to

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Speaker 3: put a whisper in some ears, then please do so.

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Speaker 3: We'll tell you how yep.

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Speaker 2: Call one eight three three STDWYTK. It's a voicemail system,

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Speaker 2: so just like Mohawk, Mick and everybody else, leave a message,

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Speaker 2: give yourself a cool nickname, and let us know within

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Speaker 2: the message if we can use your name and message

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Speaker 2: on the air. If you've got more to say than

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Speaker 2: confit three minutes, or you want to send us links,

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Speaker 2: I don't know, attachments anything, why not write us an email.

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Speaker 2: We are the.

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Speaker 3: Entities that read every piece of correspondence we receive, and

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Speaker 3: we do mean every regardless of length. You know, keep

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Speaker 3: the content clean if you can. But also if the

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Speaker 3: pun god soap move.

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Speaker 4: You that ye send us up dirty that's fine.

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Speaker 3: No dirty pictures though, because we do have an HR department.

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