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Speaker 1: The following He's a production of Dallas Cowboys dot Com

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Speaker 1: and the Dallas Cowboys Football Club, Blowing out of the backfield, Next,

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Speaker 1: flowing down the sidelines. This he's Hanging with the Boys,

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Speaker 1: broadcasting live from Dallas Cowboys World headquarters at the Star

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Speaker 1: in Frisco. Now your host, Nate Newton, Kurt Daniels, and

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Speaker 1: Shannon Gross. You haven't sound, Yeah, you're on, man, I

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Speaker 1: have no sound in my headphone. Here we go. Welcome

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Speaker 1: to Hanging with the Boys. Wow. Heysan sues this, Uh,

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Speaker 1: this shows starting off about like my trip to Canada

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Speaker 1: started off this past weekend. Sorry, I didn't have any

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Speaker 1: sound in my headphones. Got a short in here. You

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Speaker 1: got a brand new building and the equipment already doesn't work.

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Speaker 1: You're in here all last week? Fix? Geez man, what's up? Fellas?

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Speaker 1: Ain't know how mans doing. I'm tired waiting on this

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Speaker 1: damn show to start fifteen minutes later. I mean Douglas

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Speaker 1: doing the best he can. Man, Well, sometimes just ain't

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Speaker 1: good enough. Step it up. Let's go? Which Let's go?

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Speaker 1: Can you hear nine to seven? When is grewed up?

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Speaker 1: Our draft? Pick? Na? Kidding? What's up? Douglas. Yo, yo, yo,

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Speaker 1: tell everybody why we're fifteen minutes late. We were you know,

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Speaker 1: the previous show was in the television studio and it

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Speaker 1: took us a few minutes to transfer everything down to

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Speaker 1: the podcast studio so that we could feed it to

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Speaker 1: the internet and all the places that we have to

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Speaker 1: feed it. Okay, A cool, Well, well we made it.

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Speaker 1: We're here, and you know what, I'm hungry and I'm

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Speaker 1: I'm gonna stop the show right at twelve, So we

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Speaker 1: only got to work for forty five minutes today. Boys,

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Speaker 1: that's all. I mean, y'all got a meeting too, right,

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Speaker 1: big time meeting. And now Men is out of town. Wow. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: he's in Vegas. He went to in AB National Association,

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Speaker 1: a broadcast every big convention out there. It's got all

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Speaker 1: kind of cool tech gadgets and and things. I probably

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Speaker 1: would have went, but I don't want to be out

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Speaker 1: of the office that long after going to Canada. Let

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Speaker 1: me tell right, so, well you got to do some work, right,

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Speaker 1: I know. Let me tell you why I was in Canada. Well,

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Speaker 1: just I was gonna save this for later, but since

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Speaker 1: the show started off like this, it's exactly like the trip.

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Speaker 1: So we me and Nick Eatman, uh and a couple

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Speaker 1: of videographers that work for work on work for NFL films.

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Speaker 1: We went up to Windsor, Ontario, Canada to Tyrone Crawford

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Speaker 1: holds a Windsor's Finest Football Academy football camp. Every year

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Speaker 1: he's been doing. I think this was the fifth year.

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Speaker 1: And Uh he has usually his Cowboy teammates, but some

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Speaker 1: of those teammates have gone to other teams. Um, Kyle

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Speaker 1: Tyrant Smith was there, Malie Collins. So we went up

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Speaker 1: to do a started off just as me kind of

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Speaker 1: going up there to kind of do some social media

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Speaker 1: going to turn it into a short documentary about a

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Speaker 1: fifteen minute documentary. And we got up there. Man as

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Speaker 1: we started getting all these stories from his friends and

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Speaker 1: it's he's got a great story, man. He is he

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Speaker 1: I knew him fairly pretty well before I went up there,

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Speaker 1: and he is a good dude. Man. He gives back

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Speaker 1: And then Saturday, after the camp he has his you know,

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Speaker 1: It all worked out. We wound up staying in Detroit

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Speaker 1: Hell no, they were trying to. They were trying to

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Speaker 1: bunch of his stuff. No, he found it. He found it.

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Speaker 1: great trip. We got some good stuff out of it.

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Speaker 1: We talked to, uh talk to Tyran Smith while we

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Speaker 1: mean saying, they cut my back open? Shoot man, let

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Speaker 1: me look at it. He leaned forward. I can see it.

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Speaker 1: probably about fifty. How old are you? I am thirty three?

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Speaker 1: Oh yeah? He stepped step with a young looking man?

424
00:23:48,520 --> 00:23:52,719
Speaker 1: Are you old looking? You're gonna go grab the man

425
00:23:52,760 --> 00:23:54,560
Speaker 1: when he's walking back trying to do a tour, and

426
00:23:54,640 --> 00:23:57,280
Speaker 1: then you're gonna tell him he looks old. Free. It

427
00:23:57,359 --> 00:23:59,480
Speaker 1: ain't like he pays, so I'll be that's true. He's

428
00:23:59,480 --> 00:24:03,160
Speaker 1: with Trey had you trader dude? Yeah, king of Free.

429
00:24:03,200 --> 00:24:05,840
Speaker 1: So yeah, just taking a tour with Joe. What's what's

430
00:24:05,960 --> 00:24:08,560
Speaker 1: what's you up to? Yeah? That's right? I uh Joe.

431
00:24:08,800 --> 00:24:10,920
Speaker 1: He was my he was my roommate when he first

432
00:24:10,960 --> 00:24:14,080
Speaker 1: moved to Dallas and started with you guys okay turn okay,

433
00:24:14,240 --> 00:24:17,200
Speaker 1: and then so it's actually a funny story. He took

434
00:24:17,280 --> 00:24:20,720
Speaker 1: me to the one of the Christmas parties as his

435
00:24:20,960 --> 00:24:23,800
Speaker 1: as his date because I was honestly seen her cheerleader.

436
00:24:24,520 --> 00:24:27,879
Speaker 1: Yeah and uh and he couldn't go with her, so

437
00:24:28,000 --> 00:24:29,879
Speaker 1: he was like, hey, just come with me. So that

438
00:24:29,960 --> 00:24:33,480
Speaker 1: was at the old stadium, like yeah, the last one talks. Yeah,

439
00:24:34,000 --> 00:24:36,119
Speaker 1: at the Stadium club? Yeah? Yeah, yeah. Have we met?

440
00:24:36,520 --> 00:24:39,880
Speaker 1: Think we met before? Happy? Maybe I'm around here and there. Yeah, yeah,

441
00:24:39,960 --> 00:24:42,480
Speaker 1: I think I've met you. H Have you met Chris now?

442
00:24:43,200 --> 00:24:45,720
Speaker 1: Probably not? Yeah, I think I met you over some

443
00:24:45,880 --> 00:24:47,919
Speaker 1: viders from the time. Yeah, if you've been in uptown

444
00:24:47,960 --> 00:24:50,920
Speaker 1: you've met him for sure. That sounds very likely, very likely.

445
00:24:51,119 --> 00:24:54,560
Speaker 1: All right, Joe's Joe? All right, Well, hey thanks man,

446
00:24:54,800 --> 00:24:57,360
Speaker 1: I'll have to look up step Nisky look alike. Yeah,

447
00:24:57,480 --> 00:25:00,200
Speaker 1: do it? Do it? Thanks for stopping by. Man here

448
00:25:01,560 --> 00:25:04,400
Speaker 1: where where were we talking about? Gonna tell the story? Man?

449
00:25:04,520 --> 00:25:07,800
Speaker 1: Oh yeah yeah, death story here story. Thanks Joe, see

450
00:25:07,840 --> 00:25:11,399
Speaker 1: you now. One of the guys Wait a minute, you

451
00:25:11,440 --> 00:25:15,080
Speaker 1: know who that is with him? Right, pee wee herman? Wow, really,

452
00:25:15,600 --> 00:25:17,720
Speaker 1: Paul Rubens, That's who that was. That's why I was

453
00:25:17,760 --> 00:25:20,440
Speaker 1: trying to tell Joe look alike or no, it's it's him.

454
00:25:20,600 --> 00:25:23,200
Speaker 1: Oh man, Yeah, that's Paul Rubens. That's pee wee Herman.

455
00:25:23,560 --> 00:25:26,600
Speaker 1: Why don't interview him? Why didn't you bring him in?

456
00:25:26,760 --> 00:25:28,720
Speaker 1: I was trying to get gold it man, and you

457
00:25:30,880 --> 00:25:33,760
Speaker 1: no go go get him while I tell the story.

458
00:25:33,920 --> 00:25:36,720
Speaker 1: They're gone, Oh my god, Man, I get Joe to

459
00:25:36,720 --> 00:25:38,720
Speaker 1: get him on the air. That's that's that's why I

460
00:25:38,840 --> 00:25:41,280
Speaker 1: was doing that. He wasn't in his bow tie and

461
00:25:41,359 --> 00:25:44,639
Speaker 1: his side. That's never recognize him. Yeah, oh man, I

462
00:25:44,720 --> 00:25:47,960
Speaker 1: blew it. You You should have told I'd have picked

463
00:25:48,040 --> 00:25:49,480
Speaker 1: him up and brought him in. Him bro. So he

464
00:25:49,600 --> 00:25:51,840
Speaker 1: was a training camp probably seven years ago in San

465
00:25:51,880 --> 00:25:54,800
Speaker 1: Antonio and just happened to stop by. I guess his

466
00:25:54,920 --> 00:25:57,000
Speaker 1: bike was in the basement of the Alamo or something.

467
00:25:57,040 --> 00:25:59,840
Speaker 1: I don't know, and uh, he just randomly showed up

468
00:26:00,200 --> 00:26:03,399
Speaker 1: in full get up. Really yeah, and I and I

469
00:26:03,720 --> 00:26:06,200
Speaker 1: just started doing the social media for the Cowboys, so

470
00:26:06,280 --> 00:26:10,000
Speaker 1: I took a picture. He got a Jerry Junior wanted

471
00:26:10,040 --> 00:26:12,280
Speaker 1: a picture with the family because they had this story

472
00:26:12,359 --> 00:26:14,080
Speaker 1: where they used to all get up in the mornings

473
00:26:14,480 --> 00:26:18,119
Speaker 1: and they would watch Peewee's Playhouse every Saturday, and they

474
00:26:18,160 --> 00:26:21,400
Speaker 1: would eat breakfast together and they would make smiley yup.

475
00:26:21,480 --> 00:26:23,480
Speaker 1: They would make the little stiley faces on the plate

476
00:26:23,560 --> 00:26:26,639
Speaker 1: with the biscuit with the eggs and the bacon, and

477
00:26:26,800 --> 00:26:31,719
Speaker 1: that was like and that was like their deal. When

478
00:26:31,760 --> 00:26:33,480
Speaker 1: they saw Peewee, they wanted a picture of them. So

479
00:26:33,520 --> 00:26:36,320
Speaker 1: I took the picture with my phone and I tweeted

480
00:26:36,359 --> 00:26:38,160
Speaker 1: it out and this is book. This is right when

481
00:26:38,240 --> 00:26:41,240
Speaker 1: we first started our social media. Well, the damn picture

482
00:26:41,280 --> 00:26:46,040
Speaker 1: winds up on ESPN with Big Big Jerry Steve and

483
00:26:46,160 --> 00:26:49,840
Speaker 1: Jerry Junior and pee Wee Herman, and it's like and

484
00:26:50,000 --> 00:26:52,320
Speaker 1: I'm like, oh my god, like I don't know if

485
00:26:52,359 --> 00:26:54,639
Speaker 1: this is good or bad. And Jerry Junior sends me

486
00:26:54,720 --> 00:26:57,760
Speaker 1: a text message and he's like, who took that picture

487
00:26:58,720 --> 00:27:01,960
Speaker 1: that's on ESPN of us with Peewee? And I'm like, oh,

488
00:27:02,240 --> 00:27:06,159
Speaker 1: this is not good. And I was like me and

489
00:27:06,320 --> 00:27:08,520
Speaker 1: he was like, that's awesome. I was like, yes, okay,

490
00:27:09,480 --> 00:27:11,919
Speaker 1: any listen, he's good publicity. What did you what did

491
00:27:11,960 --> 00:27:14,920
Speaker 1: you google? Just Jerry Jones, pee Wee Herman. There you go.

492
00:27:15,080 --> 00:27:17,119
Speaker 1: He showed up just like that at camp. Did he

493
00:27:17,280 --> 00:27:20,440
Speaker 1: sang the start at night? No he didn't. He didn't.

494
00:27:20,440 --> 00:27:22,320
Speaker 1: He just hung out. But I think he's just a

495
00:27:23,160 --> 00:27:25,480
Speaker 1: casual football fan. It was just kind of in the area.

496
00:27:25,560 --> 00:27:29,000
Speaker 1: So yeah, man, hogle that. But anyway, back to the story.

497
00:27:29,119 --> 00:27:32,240
Speaker 1: Let's hear this dad story that you got. Man. Yeah,

498
00:27:36,520 --> 00:27:38,720
Speaker 1: so I'm calling Kurt as normal. You know, I called

499
00:27:38,800 --> 00:27:41,520
Speaker 1: him every Monday. You know, hey, man, what y'all got on?

500
00:27:41,640 --> 00:27:43,480
Speaker 1: What's what's on your mind for the show. Have you

501
00:27:43,560 --> 00:27:47,200
Speaker 1: talked to Shannon the Beard? Oh? Yeah, we're gonna do

502
00:27:47,320 --> 00:27:48,719
Speaker 1: this and do that every day? And I said, well,

503
00:27:48,800 --> 00:27:50,320
Speaker 1: you know, he said, you know, we got the Dace

504
00:27:50,400 --> 00:27:52,960
Speaker 1: thing going again. I said, okay, give me your theory

505
00:27:53,040 --> 00:27:56,119
Speaker 1: on Daz and he brings up when our old co workers,

506
00:27:56,200 --> 00:28:01,800
Speaker 1: Steve Dennis, right, and with this theory no excuse me,

507
00:28:01,920 --> 00:28:05,320
Speaker 1: was Doug Doug. So, Doug bring up this theory about

508
00:28:06,160 --> 00:28:10,120
Speaker 1: how mister Jones is gone. You want to tell the story, Douglas? Yeah,

509
00:28:10,119 --> 00:28:14,119
Speaker 1: I mean I can. Yeah you okay, White Douglas. This

510
00:28:14,240 --> 00:28:18,320
Speaker 1: is your theory. And Steve given this theory, claimed he

511
00:28:18,359 --> 00:28:21,320
Speaker 1: had spoken to someone inside the Cowboys organization. Was that

512
00:28:21,480 --> 00:28:25,639
Speaker 1: you know, because I I sure wouldn't have known this

513
00:28:26,680 --> 00:28:31,760
Speaker 1: or made it up, but his he he said that

514
00:28:31,840 --> 00:28:34,639
Speaker 1: what he was told is that Jerry was going to

515
00:28:34,720 --> 00:28:38,240
Speaker 1: have a one on one meeting with Dez and was

516
00:28:38,360 --> 00:28:41,280
Speaker 1: gonna give him a low ball offer, but he was

517
00:28:41,400 --> 00:28:45,240
Speaker 1: gonna do it in his best with his best salesmanship

518
00:28:45,880 --> 00:28:49,560
Speaker 1: to soften the blow, and the idea was that Dez

519
00:28:49,680 --> 00:28:52,920
Speaker 1: would ultimately have to turn this offer down, but at

520
00:28:53,000 --> 00:28:55,959
Speaker 1: least it would be Dez's decision and not the Cowboys. Now.

521
00:28:56,400 --> 00:28:59,000
Speaker 1: So anyway, Nate, I was just pitching this to Nate

522
00:28:59,080 --> 00:29:04,000
Speaker 1: because I'd heard it. They didn't believe that for one second,

523
00:29:04,680 --> 00:29:08,600
Speaker 1: So we're not. We certainly don't mean to spread that.

524
00:29:09,400 --> 00:29:15,920
Speaker 1: It's just what bothers me is Jerry's always saus Mister

525
00:29:16,080 --> 00:29:20,240
Speaker 1: Jones has always been in Dad's corner, and he the

526
00:29:20,280 --> 00:29:24,440
Speaker 1: one that made sure Dad's had that big contract. And

527
00:29:24,600 --> 00:29:28,360
Speaker 1: I just don't think that mister Jones would go to

528
00:29:28,560 --> 00:29:31,920
Speaker 1: Dad's and say, hey man, all we got is four

529
00:29:32,040 --> 00:29:35,920
Speaker 1: meal or six meal left. You know, we need you,

530
00:29:36,200 --> 00:29:38,640
Speaker 1: we want you here, but this is all we got.

531
00:29:40,280 --> 00:29:43,880
Speaker 1: I just don't see him doing it that way because

532
00:29:45,720 --> 00:29:49,160
Speaker 1: their relationship. I think it's better I mean now, and

533
00:29:49,280 --> 00:29:51,160
Speaker 1: I could be wrong. I don't know what goes on

534
00:29:51,280 --> 00:29:56,200
Speaker 1: behind close those Uh, maybe mister Jones doesn't even talk

535
00:29:56,200 --> 00:30:00,440
Speaker 1: to him, But can you just imagine mister Jones. Okay,

536
00:30:00,480 --> 00:30:02,560
Speaker 1: I'm because I'm because I'm mister Jones and I have

537
00:30:02,640 --> 00:30:05,600
Speaker 1: a relationship. I'm just gonna insult him like that. And

538
00:30:05,720 --> 00:30:08,440
Speaker 1: he's never done that before with that body, right, Yeah,

539
00:30:08,600 --> 00:30:11,080
Speaker 1: So when you get easy to say, hey, you know what,

540
00:30:11,480 --> 00:30:16,680
Speaker 1: before I insult your son, let's release you. That's what

541
00:30:16,760 --> 00:30:19,160
Speaker 1: I believe he would say, you know, hey, you know what,

542
00:30:19,280 --> 00:30:21,360
Speaker 1: I'm not gonna even do that to him. That's that's

543
00:30:21,400 --> 00:30:24,680
Speaker 1: releasing him. Now. I may see him saying, we'll offer

544
00:30:24,760 --> 00:30:27,800
Speaker 1: you seven the same that they gave Alan, you know,

545
00:30:27,960 --> 00:30:32,920
Speaker 1: the new kid, but just some ridiculous low ball answer.

546
00:30:33,280 --> 00:30:38,520
Speaker 1: I mean, I don't, I don't. I don't know Steven

547
00:30:38,600 --> 00:30:42,480
Speaker 1: that well. And uh and if he was to do it,

548
00:30:42,560 --> 00:30:45,520
Speaker 1: he would sure getting permission from his father, not the permission,

549
00:30:45,920 --> 00:30:48,520
Speaker 1: he would get the go ahead from his pops. I mean,

550
00:30:50,200 --> 00:30:54,440
Speaker 1: you know, you don't have what I think is and y'all,

551
00:30:54,480 --> 00:30:56,600
Speaker 1: and I want y'all on his answer. I don't think

552
00:30:56,640 --> 00:30:58,400
Speaker 1: you have to do that when you own the team.

553
00:31:00,040 --> 00:31:02,160
Speaker 1: I don't think you have to be that insulting when

554
00:31:02,160 --> 00:31:05,840
Speaker 1: you own the team. I just really don't mister Jones

555
00:31:06,040 --> 00:31:09,040
Speaker 1: and his family owns this team, and you've had a

556
00:31:09,120 --> 00:31:12,600
Speaker 1: relationship with this kid, You've helped this kid through bad times,

557
00:31:13,080 --> 00:31:16,080
Speaker 1: you know. And I'll say, hey, man, you know we

558
00:31:16,400 --> 00:31:20,400
Speaker 1: don't care about you. Yeah, because you you you already know.

559
00:31:20,840 --> 00:31:22,720
Speaker 1: Why would you even have a meeting to know that

560
00:31:22,800 --> 00:31:25,440
Speaker 1: he's gonna say no, Why would you even out of meeting?

561
00:31:26,360 --> 00:31:28,880
Speaker 1: It is? It is? It out of the question. And

562
00:31:29,040 --> 00:31:30,880
Speaker 1: here this is what I would do. And this is

563
00:31:30,920 --> 00:31:32,880
Speaker 1: probably why I don't own a team. Well, I don't

564
00:31:32,880 --> 00:31:36,400
Speaker 1: own a team because I don't have money. But would

565
00:31:36,440 --> 00:31:38,880
Speaker 1: it be wrong to say, hey, we're gonna pay you

566
00:31:39,120 --> 00:31:42,640
Speaker 1: like you said seven and we both know you had

567
00:31:42,680 --> 00:31:44,560
Speaker 1: an off year, but we think you still got it.

568
00:31:44,640 --> 00:31:47,120
Speaker 1: But we want to get what we're paying for. Let's

569
00:31:47,160 --> 00:31:50,560
Speaker 1: load it up with incentive based stuff. That's what Mickey believe,

570
00:31:50,680 --> 00:31:53,320
Speaker 1: That's what Mickey. Why not do that? I think that's

571
00:31:53,360 --> 00:31:55,480
Speaker 1: a good way to handle it. Daz makes his money,

572
00:31:55,800 --> 00:32:00,920
Speaker 1: he looks like a team player, and the reason he

573
00:32:00,960 --> 00:32:03,120
Speaker 1: would do it is because the market is dried up.

574
00:32:03,600 --> 00:32:05,800
Speaker 1: And that's one thing I was tending Douglas. I'm like,

575
00:32:07,040 --> 00:32:11,479
Speaker 1: you just cut him and you know you you know, okay, man,

576
00:32:11,560 --> 00:32:14,160
Speaker 1: we're gonna release you. We can't pay you that amount

577
00:32:14,200 --> 00:32:16,479
Speaker 1: of money. We don't want to get into a battle

578
00:32:17,120 --> 00:32:20,120
Speaker 1: about what you're worth. And you know we can release you,

579
00:32:20,560 --> 00:32:23,720
Speaker 1: you know. And and right about now the market is

580
00:32:23,880 --> 00:32:27,720
Speaker 1: dried up. What is what is Butler making? What did Butler?

581
00:32:27,760 --> 00:32:33,640
Speaker 1: Butler signed with Cincinnati or somebody Buffalo or somebody Butler Arizona,

582
00:32:33,760 --> 00:32:36,120
Speaker 1: Arizona or somebody. It don't matter. Once you leave, you

583
00:32:36,240 --> 00:32:40,640
Speaker 1: gone if the contract has been reported yet yeah, yeah yet, yeah.

584
00:32:40,920 --> 00:32:43,520
Speaker 1: I mean, it ain't like you're making ten miller, you know,

585
00:32:43,840 --> 00:32:47,520
Speaker 1: I promise you that now. So but even though the

586
00:32:48,160 --> 00:32:51,960
Speaker 1: all of the high dollar free agents are gone, most

587
00:32:52,000 --> 00:32:54,560
Speaker 1: of the guys that are wide receivers laughter, you know,

588
00:32:54,640 --> 00:32:56,960
Speaker 1: they're not gonna make a whole lot of money. But

589
00:32:57,120 --> 00:32:59,280
Speaker 1: there are teams out there that have cap space, you know,

590
00:32:59,400 --> 00:33:01,400
Speaker 1: like the Titans have a lot of cap space and

591
00:33:01,480 --> 00:33:04,160
Speaker 1: don't have a big stud reliever receiver. I mean, would

592
00:33:04,200 --> 00:33:09,560
Speaker 1: that be. But you gotta understand, ain't no team gonna say, hey,

593
00:33:09,920 --> 00:33:12,400
Speaker 1: the Cowboys don't want you, Hey, let's keep you ten

594
00:33:12,520 --> 00:33:16,080
Speaker 1: minute for us. It don't work that way, y'all know.

595
00:33:16,920 --> 00:33:22,479
Speaker 1: Right now, the buyers, the buyer's market is over the sellers.

596
00:33:23,000 --> 00:33:25,360
Speaker 1: When the seller's market is over. I mean the money

597
00:33:26,120 --> 00:33:30,320
Speaker 1: that's over. It's it's different levels to everything. You know,

598
00:33:31,240 --> 00:33:33,880
Speaker 1: just two weeks ago to seven million dollars receivers was

599
00:33:33,920 --> 00:33:36,719
Speaker 1: out there. Now there's seven million dollars receivers name out

600
00:33:36,760 --> 00:33:39,800
Speaker 1: there's two weeks later. It don't get better than free agency.

601
00:33:40,120 --> 00:33:43,680
Speaker 1: He gets worse. The big pops already been made. Now

602
00:33:44,160 --> 00:33:47,440
Speaker 1: dance could be that exception. He could be that exception.

603
00:33:48,120 --> 00:33:52,280
Speaker 1: But my issue is why would you say, hey man,

604
00:33:52,640 --> 00:33:55,640
Speaker 1: you know he go full meal, like he go five meal.

605
00:33:56,240 --> 00:33:59,240
Speaker 1: You know this is all we're gonna give you. I

606
00:33:59,400 --> 00:34:00,760
Speaker 1: just have a hard some believe you. I mean, you

607
00:34:00,800 --> 00:34:03,760
Speaker 1: really think Cowboys would cut him though? If he says,

608
00:34:04,080 --> 00:34:06,840
Speaker 1: screw this, this is our contract. I'm not taking a

609
00:34:06,920 --> 00:34:09,440
Speaker 1: pay cut, kind of like with Brandon Carr, you know,

610
00:34:09,600 --> 00:34:11,000
Speaker 1: I mean, do you think they'd really cut him and

611
00:34:11,040 --> 00:34:13,640
Speaker 1: then they got what would that leave him with? That

612
00:34:13,840 --> 00:34:16,719
Speaker 1: leave him with Alan Hearns, Because for you to sign

613
00:34:16,840 --> 00:34:19,680
Speaker 1: him at seven million dollars, you're saying that he's more

614
00:34:19,760 --> 00:34:22,680
Speaker 1: than adequate to play for you. That that'll leave you

615
00:34:22,760 --> 00:34:25,040
Speaker 1: in the same situation like I told Douglas of two

616
00:34:25,120 --> 00:34:27,080
Speaker 1: years ago when he was injured and we played with

617
00:34:27,200 --> 00:34:31,759
Speaker 1: t Will Cole Beasley knows those guys. That's where it

618
00:34:31,880 --> 00:34:34,200
Speaker 1: leaves you. You got to be the well you want

619
00:34:34,239 --> 00:34:36,040
Speaker 1: to draft somebody in the first round. What is the

620
00:34:36,080 --> 00:34:38,800
Speaker 1: first round wide receiver gonna do that dads can't do?

621
00:34:39,600 --> 00:34:42,920
Speaker 1: I mean, what is what at this point what can

622
00:34:45,160 --> 00:34:48,920
Speaker 1: dad's do different than the first round of eight hundred

623
00:34:49,000 --> 00:34:53,879
Speaker 1: yards six CDs in forty or fifty catches and that's

624
00:34:53,920 --> 00:34:57,640
Speaker 1: a highly productive first round. Yeah, So I mean you

625
00:34:57,880 --> 00:35:05,880
Speaker 1: you you with those points and yard it should be missed.

626
00:35:06,640 --> 00:35:09,520
Speaker 1: You saying no when you signed Alan Hearns, you said

627
00:35:09,680 --> 00:35:12,560
Speaker 1: no between Alan Hearns and Thomas is his name, the

628
00:35:12,640 --> 00:35:15,880
Speaker 1: other guy that's more of a special teams guy. You

629
00:35:16,120 --> 00:35:21,120
Speaker 1: saying that these two guys more than enough to cover deaths.

630
00:35:21,320 --> 00:35:23,160
Speaker 1: And that's what you're saying. I think the moves that

631
00:35:23,239 --> 00:35:25,960
Speaker 1: they've made Kurt like, I don't want to believe they

632
00:35:26,000 --> 00:35:29,399
Speaker 1: would cut him, but they waited to have these conversations

633
00:35:29,480 --> 00:35:32,600
Speaker 1: with him to me so the market would drive up,

634
00:35:32,760 --> 00:35:35,040
Speaker 1: so there's not demand. So it puts it puts them

635
00:35:35,120 --> 00:35:38,440
Speaker 1: in a leverage position they sign these guys where if

636
00:35:38,520 --> 00:35:41,280
Speaker 1: they do have to cut them, they're still in good shape.

637
00:35:41,320 --> 00:35:42,799
Speaker 1: Are they in as good as shape as if they'd

638
00:35:42,800 --> 00:35:45,840
Speaker 1: have had death. No, but they have two two guys

639
00:35:45,920 --> 00:35:48,000
Speaker 1: that can start or two guys that can that can

640
00:35:48,360 --> 00:35:50,640
Speaker 1: you know, fill avoid Alan Hearns can give you seven

641
00:35:50,760 --> 00:35:53,320
Speaker 1: hundred eight hundred yards I think, which is what you

642
00:35:53,400 --> 00:35:55,880
Speaker 1: had last year with death. So it just seems like

643
00:35:56,040 --> 00:35:58,560
Speaker 1: all the moves they're making and the timing and everything

644
00:35:59,280 --> 00:36:01,399
Speaker 1: is set up to where they want him on the team,

645
00:36:01,440 --> 00:36:05,160
Speaker 1: I think, but they're prepared if it goes south that

646
00:36:05,320 --> 00:36:09,120
Speaker 1: they could just let him go. I guess I'm worried that. Yes,

647
00:36:09,200 --> 00:36:13,880
Speaker 1: Alan Hearns can provide some of that, but could Now

648
00:36:13,960 --> 00:36:17,160
Speaker 1: this is you know, Pine the sky, But Dez has

649
00:36:17,200 --> 00:36:20,960
Speaker 1: the capability of giving you twelve yards or ten fifteen

650
00:36:21,000 --> 00:36:23,080
Speaker 1: touches that kind of can Alan Hearns give you that?

651
00:36:23,880 --> 00:36:25,879
Speaker 1: And I feel like, well, two to three years ago,

652
00:36:25,920 --> 00:36:27,640
Speaker 1: look at it, look a look him up. Before he

653
00:36:27,719 --> 00:36:32,200
Speaker 1: got hurt. He's had one one thousand yards teas And

654
00:36:32,320 --> 00:36:36,080
Speaker 1: that's what I tell people, the one hit wonders a

655
00:36:36,360 --> 00:36:40,440
Speaker 1: dime a dozen. It's like it's like Herns has had

656
00:36:40,440 --> 00:36:42,560
Speaker 1: two hundred yards the last two years. Yeah, it's been

657
00:36:42,640 --> 00:36:46,080
Speaker 1: like twenty guys. What it's about ten guys last year,

658
00:36:46,239 --> 00:36:48,920
Speaker 1: twenty guys with a thousand plus yard with a thousand

659
00:36:49,000 --> 00:36:53,040
Speaker 1: yards and so many touchdowns. But like I said, when

660
00:36:53,080 --> 00:36:56,239
Speaker 1: you win, the Eagles won, and I don't think they

661
00:36:56,320 --> 00:36:59,799
Speaker 1: had a thousand yard receiver Eagles one. I don't think

662
00:36:59,800 --> 00:37:02,400
Speaker 1: they a thousand yard receive them and I don't think

663
00:37:02,440 --> 00:37:04,960
Speaker 1: they had a guy with more than eight touchdowns. But

664
00:37:05,200 --> 00:37:08,719
Speaker 1: they won, right, And when you win, people look at

665
00:37:08,800 --> 00:37:11,759
Speaker 1: things differently. So by then making these moves and going

666
00:37:11,880 --> 00:37:17,160
Speaker 1: and signing these okay guys, are they putting all the

667
00:37:17,280 --> 00:37:20,080
Speaker 1: eggs in the basket of Zeke Elliott? Now? Is that

668
00:37:20,239 --> 00:37:24,799
Speaker 1: just going, hey, yeah, if he goes down, we're done again.

669
00:37:24,960 --> 00:37:27,440
Speaker 1: Believe it or not. They put all the bad, all

670
00:37:27,480 --> 00:37:31,880
Speaker 1: the eggs in the basket with Zeke last year, right, so,

671
00:37:32,520 --> 00:37:37,000
Speaker 1: and I think that's part of it. Though they're in

672
00:37:37,040 --> 00:37:41,080
Speaker 1: this window now with Doz, I mean with Dak and Zeke,

673
00:37:41,560 --> 00:37:43,640
Speaker 1: where the money's right for them and they've got, you know,

674
00:37:43,719 --> 00:37:48,000
Speaker 1: all the whatever to now give up a potential number

675
00:37:48,040 --> 00:37:50,320
Speaker 1: one receiver, a guy who has been a number one receiver.

676
00:37:50,640 --> 00:37:53,640
Speaker 1: I think you're just I mean, I worry that production

677
00:37:53,680 --> 00:37:56,919
Speaker 1: can be made up. I guess le lem me Gie

678
00:37:57,040 --> 00:38:01,320
Speaker 1: example brother and and when you think, if you ain't

679
00:38:01,360 --> 00:38:06,239
Speaker 1: thinking this way, something is wrong. The last two or

680
00:38:06,320 --> 00:38:09,000
Speaker 1: three years, Levion Bell for the Pittsburgh still as I've

681
00:38:09,040 --> 00:38:11,720
Speaker 1: been suspended for one reason or another for four games

682
00:38:14,640 --> 00:38:19,200
Speaker 1: as Antonio Brown mister beat Nope, as he not only

683
00:38:19,560 --> 00:38:22,080
Speaker 1: not mister, maybe he stepped it up. That's what I'm

684
00:38:22,120 --> 00:38:24,440
Speaker 1: trying to tell you. Nine you say, that's what I

685
00:38:24,560 --> 00:38:27,800
Speaker 1: tried to tell y'all when this kid went down. The

686
00:38:27,920 --> 00:38:30,040
Speaker 1: first person you heard me say, boy not dead. This

687
00:38:30,280 --> 00:38:33,919
Speaker 1: is Dead's time to shine, right, This is dead's time

688
00:38:33,960 --> 00:38:36,759
Speaker 1: to keep this field, spread it out, and keep things going.

689
00:38:37,120 --> 00:38:40,880
Speaker 1: This was his time to shine. He didn't do it. Fellas,

690
00:38:41,680 --> 00:38:44,399
Speaker 1: he didn't do it. I heard driving into work this morning.

691
00:38:44,480 --> 00:38:47,520
Speaker 1: They there was a Josh Norman interview over the weekend

692
00:38:47,600 --> 00:38:49,920
Speaker 1: or last week as Josh like him some serious on

693
00:38:50,080 --> 00:38:54,280
Speaker 1: some serious XM station or something, and they asked Josh

694
00:38:54,320 --> 00:38:57,560
Speaker 1: if dad still had it, and he said, yes, I

695
00:38:57,680 --> 00:39:00,479
Speaker 1: think he still has it. But he was talking about

696
00:39:00,520 --> 00:39:02,840
Speaker 1: the mental part, like he's got to get he's got

697
00:39:02,920 --> 00:39:05,040
Speaker 1: to get this cleared up, but he still has the

698
00:39:05,080 --> 00:39:08,520
Speaker 1: physical tools to be a top receiver in the very church.

699
00:39:08,560 --> 00:39:10,920
Speaker 1: Say something kind of similarly. He wouldn't give him up

700
00:39:10,960 --> 00:39:12,800
Speaker 1: the same kind of thing. That he's still got the

701
00:39:12,840 --> 00:39:15,279
Speaker 1: talent and the thing. And that's the other part is

702
00:39:15,840 --> 00:39:18,120
Speaker 1: even if he does have some some stuff going on

703
00:39:18,280 --> 00:39:20,319
Speaker 1: off the field, which is pretty much what you've heard

704
00:39:20,360 --> 00:39:25,839
Speaker 1: everybody say and even heard him say it, like mister

705
00:39:26,080 --> 00:39:30,120
Speaker 1: Jones is a players guy, and more than a players guy,

706
00:39:30,840 --> 00:39:33,879
Speaker 1: he's a people guy, and like he's been with death

707
00:39:34,000 --> 00:39:36,759
Speaker 1: through everything. And if it is a if it is

708
00:39:36,840 --> 00:39:38,640
Speaker 1: some stuff that's going on off the field, I just

709
00:39:38,800 --> 00:39:41,600
Speaker 1: can't see them just cutting. I'm with you, Kurt, I

710
00:39:41,640 --> 00:39:44,320
Speaker 1: can't see him. I think they're setting themselves up to

711
00:39:44,480 --> 00:39:47,640
Speaker 1: be prepared for it, but I don't see from a

712
00:39:47,760 --> 00:39:52,160
Speaker 1: personal standpoint, like mister Jones gets attached to these guys.

713
00:39:52,400 --> 00:39:54,960
Speaker 1: You know. It may be good cop bad cop between Steven,

714
00:39:55,600 --> 00:40:00,080
Speaker 1: but I mean, I would hate to see him what Nate, No, No,

715
00:40:00,320 --> 00:40:02,640
Speaker 1: I've just claimed I thought, okay, okay, but I mean

716
00:40:02,719 --> 00:40:06,120
Speaker 1: I would I would hate to see Dad's go. And

717
00:40:06,200 --> 00:40:08,440
Speaker 1: I wonder if there's a personal aspect to it that

718
00:40:09,000 --> 00:40:10,719
Speaker 1: he would have been gone a long time ago. If

719
00:40:10,840 --> 00:40:13,640
Speaker 1: he wasn't they weren't vested in each other as people.

720
00:40:14,160 --> 00:40:17,400
Speaker 1: You know, do you think that off the field. Whatever

721
00:40:19,760 --> 00:40:21,799
Speaker 1: he said, things got let him. He let things get

722
00:40:21,840 --> 00:40:24,040
Speaker 1: in the way last year. You're given the benefit of

723
00:40:24,040 --> 00:40:25,800
Speaker 1: the doubt and say, now he's got that under control,

724
00:40:25,840 --> 00:40:28,200
Speaker 1: or does this just make it worse? All this Willie stay,

725
00:40:28,239 --> 00:40:31,719
Speaker 1: Willie go? Stuff. You know, it's about the money now,

726
00:40:32,680 --> 00:40:34,960
Speaker 1: how to guess? He showed me the money. It's about

727
00:40:35,000 --> 00:40:38,440
Speaker 1: the money. Now, what would you do, Nate? I'd give

728
00:40:38,520 --> 00:40:40,520
Speaker 1: him another year. I would try to work it to

729
00:40:40,640 --> 00:40:45,040
Speaker 1: where it's incentive based. And what I would do, honestly,

730
00:40:45,960 --> 00:40:47,839
Speaker 1: I'll go to dazz And I said, look at he him. Man,

731
00:40:48,600 --> 00:40:51,359
Speaker 1: what I'm gonna do is insult you. What I'm gonna

732
00:40:51,360 --> 00:40:53,680
Speaker 1: do is it hurt your feelings. But if you if

733
00:40:53,719 --> 00:40:56,800
Speaker 1: you hear me out, I think you'll like it in

734
00:40:56,920 --> 00:41:00,279
Speaker 1: its basic to what you know you said. And Mick said, look,

735
00:41:00,320 --> 00:41:03,680
Speaker 1: if we're gonna get eight point five meal, that's your base.

736
00:41:04,320 --> 00:41:08,320
Speaker 1: We guarantee six of it. With guarantee six of it.

737
00:41:08,800 --> 00:41:10,839
Speaker 1: And you know what I'm talking about. However you did

738
00:41:10,960 --> 00:41:14,160
Speaker 1: to do that, and everything from that point on is

739
00:41:14,200 --> 00:41:17,600
Speaker 1: what you earn and and we're not gonna you know.

740
00:41:20,520 --> 00:41:25,120
Speaker 1: The funny thing about that, though, is some games they

741
00:41:25,160 --> 00:41:27,120
Speaker 1: don't throw to him a lot some games they do,

742
00:41:27,920 --> 00:41:30,880
Speaker 1: you know, so you can't guarantee targets. You know, it

743
00:41:31,040 --> 00:41:32,879
Speaker 1: was the most throne, that one of the most throne

744
00:41:32,920 --> 00:41:36,520
Speaker 1: that received sides the guy with the Texas. Yea, they

745
00:41:36,640 --> 00:41:39,279
Speaker 1: thought there's nine ten times a game. So if they

746
00:41:39,360 --> 00:41:41,920
Speaker 1: stay on that average and Dad's catch the majority of

747
00:41:41,920 --> 00:41:45,440
Speaker 1: the balls like he used to, he'll get he'll get

748
00:41:45,480 --> 00:41:48,920
Speaker 1: a lot of money, you know, but it will be

749
00:41:49,000 --> 00:41:50,680
Speaker 1: a one year It'll be a one or two year

750
00:41:50,800 --> 00:41:53,560
Speaker 1: deal where I say, you know, we're gonna guarantee this

751
00:41:53,760 --> 00:41:57,200
Speaker 1: six meal, this six meal this year, but did it

752
00:41:57,320 --> 00:42:00,560
Speaker 1: next year. We ain't guaranteeing nothing unless you meet some

753
00:42:00,840 --> 00:42:03,560
Speaker 1: meet amount of number. That's a great point. I didn't

754
00:42:03,600 --> 00:42:06,000
Speaker 1: even think of that. If they do tie tense in

755
00:42:06,040 --> 00:42:08,600
Speaker 1: the based he's been a team guy, and he's been

756
00:42:08,680 --> 00:42:11,520
Speaker 1: quiet when he didn't get the targets. You start affecting

757
00:42:11,600 --> 00:42:14,560
Speaker 1: that money. You're talking about millions of dollars and they're

758
00:42:14,640 --> 00:42:17,520
Speaker 1: not targeting he might be a little more vocal in

759
00:42:17,600 --> 00:42:20,839
Speaker 1: that locker room. That's that's why that happens. That's why

760
00:42:20,880 --> 00:42:23,359
Speaker 1: I don't think I don't think you. I don't think

761
00:42:23,440 --> 00:42:26,480
Speaker 1: that mister Jones or mister Stephen Jones want to play

762
00:42:26,560 --> 00:42:28,719
Speaker 1: that game. I think that's why Steven has been so

763
00:42:28,920 --> 00:42:31,520
Speaker 1: direct and what he's saying, because he don't want to

764
00:42:31,520 --> 00:42:35,120
Speaker 1: play that game. You know a lot of people, you know,

765
00:42:36,280 --> 00:42:37,759
Speaker 1: you know a lot of people can get mad at

766
00:42:37,840 --> 00:42:41,120
Speaker 1: me or you or whatever or whoever about what we say.

767
00:42:41,600 --> 00:42:46,400
Speaker 1: But when you did them with a volatile guy, you know,

768
00:42:47,000 --> 00:42:50,480
Speaker 1: that can go off the deep end real quick, you know.

769
00:42:53,200 --> 00:42:56,560
Speaker 1: You you see, it's more pieces in here that we

770
00:42:56,640 --> 00:43:01,880
Speaker 1: don't even talk about. You change the whole coaching staff. Yeah, yeah, okay,

771
00:43:02,000 --> 00:43:05,800
Speaker 1: your head coach got not only new players that he

772
00:43:05,880 --> 00:43:08,320
Speaker 1: gotta deal with, he got a new coaching staff he

773
00:43:08,400 --> 00:43:10,440
Speaker 1: gotta put together. They may not want to deal with

774
00:43:10,560 --> 00:43:13,080
Speaker 1: that no more. They may not want to deal with

775
00:43:13,120 --> 00:43:15,759
Speaker 1: the violets a player no more. That's you know. And see,

776
00:43:16,600 --> 00:43:18,719
Speaker 1: you know, Scandri did the right thing when he walked

777
00:43:18,760 --> 00:43:21,200
Speaker 1: in and say, hey, let me you know, let me

778
00:43:21,320 --> 00:43:23,400
Speaker 1: go because they don't want to deal with it. You know,

779
00:43:24,080 --> 00:43:27,600
Speaker 1: your antics right, you know, the world it's against me

780
00:43:27,680 --> 00:43:30,399
Speaker 1: that man, go ahead on. I think there was some truth.

781
00:43:30,480 --> 00:43:34,279
Speaker 1: You know, he kind of tuned out Derek Dooley. Yeah,

782
00:43:34,440 --> 00:43:37,200
Speaker 1: Seever's coach, and you hope you hope the new guy,

783
00:43:37,640 --> 00:43:40,879
Speaker 1: san Jay Law can get to him somehow. Yeah, maybe

784
00:43:40,960 --> 00:43:42,880
Speaker 1: change things around. But like you said, then in the

785
00:43:43,000 --> 00:43:45,040
Speaker 1: other hand, and maybe like forget, what does what do

786
00:43:45,239 --> 00:43:48,680
Speaker 1: great players do every off season? What great what great

787
00:43:48,719 --> 00:43:52,640
Speaker 1: players do every off season is they find something that

788
00:43:52,800 --> 00:43:56,800
Speaker 1: they can improve get better at. Yep, you know you

789
00:43:56,920 --> 00:43:58,960
Speaker 1: and your eighth ninth year say'n I'm gonna learn to

790
00:43:59,040 --> 00:44:03,120
Speaker 1: run better routes. He's about five years a little too.

791
00:44:05,200 --> 00:44:07,800
Speaker 1: I'm being honestly, you know, I could see that the

792
00:44:07,880 --> 00:44:10,600
Speaker 1: advantage of maybe keeping dad's I can see the advantage

793
00:44:10,600 --> 00:44:13,160
Speaker 1: of maybe letting your dad's go. You know. You know,

794
00:44:13,360 --> 00:44:16,000
Speaker 1: from a player point, I understand the business aspect, and

795
00:44:16,080 --> 00:44:18,880
Speaker 1: I understand where you have to be better as a

796
00:44:18,960 --> 00:44:21,879
Speaker 1: player every year you have to give to be able

797
00:44:21,920 --> 00:44:24,919
Speaker 1: to make aware when they when the head coach talks

798
00:44:24,960 --> 00:44:28,480
Speaker 1: to the position coach and the offensive coordinator say hey, man,

799
00:44:28,520 --> 00:44:31,360
Speaker 1: what do you think about dads? It's what I was accordinated.

800
00:44:31,400 --> 00:44:33,560
Speaker 1: He give his spell and he goes then the head

801
00:44:33,600 --> 00:44:36,640
Speaker 1: coach bringing in the position what do you think about dads?

802
00:44:38,360 --> 00:44:42,040
Speaker 1: And they both basically saying the same thing, either for

803
00:44:42,239 --> 00:44:46,160
Speaker 1: you against you. I kind of wanted to. When they

804
00:44:46,239 --> 00:44:48,400
Speaker 1: first said he was learning to run routes again, that

805
00:44:48,640 --> 00:44:51,279
Speaker 1: kind of surprised everybody, like why didn't he you do

806
00:44:51,360 --> 00:44:53,320
Speaker 1: this three or four, five years ago or whatever. But

807
00:44:53,640 --> 00:44:57,759
Speaker 1: I also wonder like before physically, athletically it didn't matter

808
00:44:57,880 --> 00:44:59,920
Speaker 1: he could do when he wanted out there against those cornerback.

809
00:45:00,600 --> 00:45:03,560
Speaker 1: Now he's with twenty nine thirty something like that. Physically

810
00:45:03,680 --> 00:45:07,160
Speaker 1: he's not the same guy. So maybe he needs those

811
00:45:07,280 --> 00:45:12,239
Speaker 1: routes to make up for just to you know, I

812
00:45:12,239 --> 00:45:15,160
Speaker 1: do know, nay, nothing like that third, but you can.

813
00:45:15,320 --> 00:45:19,920
Speaker 1: You can. Technique has to be better because the athletic

814
00:45:19,960 --> 00:45:22,600
Speaker 1: ability isn't it's good. And Kuan Bowling is never was

815
00:45:22,680 --> 00:45:25,400
Speaker 1: never the athlete of Dad, but he played eleven twelve

816
00:45:25,520 --> 00:45:29,240
Speaker 1: years right, Never the athlete of Daz, but he played

817
00:45:29,400 --> 00:45:31,920
Speaker 1: because he had one thing. He was able to run

818
00:45:32,040 --> 00:45:35,719
Speaker 1: routes versus coverage. That's what I'm wondering now because now

819
00:45:35,880 --> 00:45:37,719
Speaker 1: Daz can't do that anymore, so he has to learn

820
00:45:37,760 --> 00:45:41,320
Speaker 1: to run routes. Yeah, but you should have been like

821
00:45:41,440 --> 00:45:44,400
Speaker 1: I say, at Kwan Bowling did this from the start.

822
00:45:44,560 --> 00:45:47,359
Speaker 1: Within his first second or third year, he started being

823
00:45:47,400 --> 00:45:51,160
Speaker 1: a better route runner, you know that way you can

824
00:45:51,239 --> 00:45:55,280
Speaker 1: evolve as the game evolved, as the coaching staff may change.

825
00:45:55,360 --> 00:45:57,799
Speaker 1: If you're a route runner, you could you people look

826
00:45:57,840 --> 00:45:59,839
Speaker 1: at you, Oh man, Okay, well I can do something

827
00:46:00,080 --> 00:46:03,040
Speaker 1: this because this kid run routes. Well you you you

828
00:46:03,239 --> 00:46:06,760
Speaker 1: just okay, I'm gonna run a deep post deep cross

829
00:46:07,520 --> 00:46:13,200
Speaker 1: officer jump ball in the end zone. Coach is like, okay, well,

830
00:46:14,040 --> 00:46:17,279
Speaker 1: the same guy that praised him, Josh Norman, you said, well, hey,

831
00:46:17,360 --> 00:46:19,759
Speaker 1: what Roules did is gonna run? Well, he's gonna run

832
00:46:19,840 --> 00:46:23,840
Speaker 1: deep in. You're gonna run a deep cross. Yeah. But

833
00:46:23,960 --> 00:46:25,680
Speaker 1: I just wondered before he could get away with that,

834
00:46:25,880 --> 00:46:29,120
Speaker 1: because he's his whole his whole life. He's been the man.

835
00:46:29,360 --> 00:46:32,680
Speaker 1: In high school. He was the man right Oklahoma State, Oloma,

836
00:46:32,760 --> 00:46:34,239
Speaker 1: Hush State. He was the man when he first came

837
00:46:34,280 --> 00:46:36,040
Speaker 1: in the league. He was the man a lot of

838
00:46:36,080 --> 00:46:38,319
Speaker 1: times when and I'm I don't know Deser's work ethic,

839
00:46:38,400 --> 00:46:40,200
Speaker 1: I don't. I'm not saying this, but a lot of

840
00:46:40,280 --> 00:46:42,800
Speaker 1: times when you're the man without having to put the

841
00:46:42,840 --> 00:46:44,839
Speaker 1: work in, Why I put the work in? If you're

842
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Speaker 1: already the man, right, and then all of a sudden,

843
00:46:47,840 --> 00:46:49,880
Speaker 1: you know, now he's not. Now you may not be

844
00:46:50,000 --> 00:46:53,040
Speaker 1: the man and it's like, okay, well, work ethics not

845
00:46:53,120 --> 00:46:55,640
Speaker 1: something you just start overnight. Let me say something, man,

846
00:46:56,000 --> 00:46:58,480
Speaker 1: If that makes any sense to see that that that's

847
00:46:58,520 --> 00:47:01,680
Speaker 1: the that's the issue. I tell people, that's the issue.

848
00:47:02,800 --> 00:47:05,520
Speaker 1: A lot of people work hard, a lot of people

849
00:47:05,560 --> 00:47:07,280
Speaker 1: work hard. That's why you have a bunch of mules.

850
00:47:08,800 --> 00:47:10,440
Speaker 1: A lot of people work smart. And that's why you're

851
00:47:10,440 --> 00:47:13,759
Speaker 1: a thoroughbread. Yeah, you're good at what you do, and

852
00:47:13,880 --> 00:47:16,759
Speaker 1: you're specific and how you handling your business. So that's

853
00:47:16,800 --> 00:47:18,839
Speaker 1: when you got a lot of mules running around out there.

854
00:47:19,280 --> 00:47:22,000
Speaker 1: And when the mule run out and the powerway there,

855
00:47:22,400 --> 00:47:26,960
Speaker 1: the mule go, you know, turn him into doll food thoroughbred.

856
00:47:27,160 --> 00:47:30,319
Speaker 1: He keep breathing and she keep breathing. Done, yeah, help,

857
00:47:30,520 --> 00:47:34,320
Speaker 1: So okay, you figure it out. Now, let's take a

858
00:47:34,400 --> 00:47:37,239
Speaker 1: quick break. We're gonna we're gonna come back for a

859
00:47:37,280 --> 00:47:41,480
Speaker 1: few more minuts. What you think about that? Turn him

860
00:47:41,480 --> 00:47:47,440
Speaker 1: into glue? Kind of wondering what there's a mule? You

861
00:47:48,080 --> 00:47:49,920
Speaker 1: what you think? Give me one more year and we'll

862
00:47:49,960 --> 00:47:52,560
Speaker 1: get to answer that question. We got a couple of

863
00:47:52,640 --> 00:47:54,640
Speaker 1: days to get to when we come back. The Cowboys

864
00:47:54,719 --> 00:47:57,959
Speaker 1: signed a player late last week that we haven't talked

865
00:47:57,960 --> 00:48:01,640
Speaker 1: about scouting meetings are full blast, and they brought some

866
00:48:01,719 --> 00:48:04,960
Speaker 1: players in last week for their thirty visits. We got

867
00:48:05,080 --> 00:48:06,960
Speaker 1: a list of that and see if you, guys, if

868
00:48:06,960 --> 00:48:10,120
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869
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890
00:49:11,560 --> 00:49:14,080
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891
00:49:14,120 --> 00:49:16,759
Speaker 1: their ideas, but I just say to myself, it's what's

892
00:49:16,840 --> 00:49:19,400
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893
00:49:19,560 --> 00:49:21,919
Speaker 1: muscle and heart to get her done. But if your

894
00:49:22,000 --> 00:49:24,960
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895
00:49:25,200 --> 00:49:28,120
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896
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897
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899
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Speaker 1: The rest of you can visit stetson dot com slash

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902
00:49:44,239 --> 00:49:46,399
Speaker 1: got the passion and the heart to do your part

903
00:49:46,480 --> 00:49:49,480
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904
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905
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906
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907
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908
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909
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910
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914
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917
00:50:38,320 --> 00:50:41,759
Speaker 1: copy of the Star magazine. We do and it looks

918
00:50:41,920 --> 00:50:45,920
Speaker 1: really really thank you on the cover looks awesome. The

919
00:50:46,080 --> 00:50:48,960
Speaker 1: features in here look awesome. Yeah, go to Dallas Cowboys

920
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Speaker 1: dot com, slash Star. You can get them print or

921
00:50:52,160 --> 00:50:54,520
Speaker 1: digital for four ninety five. And we have our staff's

922
00:50:54,680 --> 00:51:00,520
Speaker 1: first mock draft. First mock draft. Okay, so what do

923
00:51:00,680 --> 00:51:03,239
Speaker 1: you do? What you you just put it together and

924
00:51:03,440 --> 00:51:06,080
Speaker 1: everybody else due the writing and taking. When I do

925
00:51:06,160 --> 00:51:08,719
Speaker 1: a little writing, I do a lot of editing, all

926
00:51:08,800 --> 00:51:12,000
Speaker 1: this putting this all together, okay, because I'm like this dude,

927
00:51:12,040 --> 00:51:13,800
Speaker 1: he'll always some mu to buy some of them and

928
00:51:13,920 --> 00:51:15,640
Speaker 1: get some of them. And look at that on the screen.

929
00:51:16,880 --> 00:51:24,520
Speaker 1: That's nice fans everything. I think that's out nice, very nice.

930
00:51:24,520 --> 00:51:27,200
Speaker 1: I'd like to give a shout out to Jerius McKeon.

931
00:51:27,960 --> 00:51:30,719
Speaker 1: He was He drove four hours from Toronto with his

932
00:51:30,800 --> 00:51:33,399
Speaker 1: two year old and his ten year old to come

933
00:51:33,440 --> 00:51:36,160
Speaker 1: to the camp to get Nick Eatman to sign his book.

934
00:51:37,640 --> 00:51:41,399
Speaker 1: He's if the walls could talk, and brought his kids

935
00:51:41,480 --> 00:51:44,720
Speaker 1: out there. We went and met him and uh listens

936
00:51:44,719 --> 00:51:46,719
Speaker 1: to all the shows he has. He has a job

937
00:51:46,800 --> 00:51:51,080
Speaker 1: where he can uh listen to radio or podcasts or whatever.

938
00:51:51,120 --> 00:51:54,560
Speaker 1: He listens to all the shows all day long. Huge fan.

939
00:51:54,760 --> 00:52:00,799
Speaker 1: His son's name is Emmett Michael Troy McKeon. So your

940
00:52:00,880 --> 00:52:06,200
Speaker 1: life must be a hardcore that very very understanding. Understand

941
00:52:06,239 --> 00:52:09,959
Speaker 1: that there's a they're they're a cowboys family. She's into

942
00:52:10,040 --> 00:52:11,760
Speaker 1: it too, So I get it. You sign an autograph.

943
00:52:11,880 --> 00:52:15,959
Speaker 1: I did not devalue that man's book on that should

944
00:52:16,000 --> 00:52:18,239
Speaker 1: have you know, did not. I shook his hand and

945
00:52:18,320 --> 00:52:20,080
Speaker 1: took a picture with him and his kids. That was

946
00:52:20,080 --> 00:52:23,000
Speaker 1: about it. You could have signed his bicep. There you go. Yeah,

947
00:52:23,440 --> 00:52:26,720
Speaker 1: we're good. Good. So the Cowboys signed a player who'd

948
00:52:26,760 --> 00:52:28,600
Speaker 1: we signed last week? Kirk. I was gone, I was in.

949
00:52:28,800 --> 00:52:33,640
Speaker 1: I was Yeah, who's at Missouri Missouri? Right? I believe

950
00:52:33,640 --> 00:52:35,719
Speaker 1: that's try the Jets last year. Yeah, one of the

951
00:52:35,760 --> 00:52:39,120
Speaker 1: season with the Jets. Who was with one season? One sack? Yeah,

952
00:52:39,239 --> 00:52:43,080
Speaker 1: he's with the Panthers before they've drafted. He got five

953
00:52:43,160 --> 00:52:45,120
Speaker 1: with the Panthers two years in a row, right, and

954
00:52:45,200 --> 00:52:48,280
Speaker 1: then he got one. Then he wound up with fifteen

955
00:52:48,320 --> 00:52:52,640
Speaker 1: altogether in two interceptions and yeah, numerous. Yeah. I read

956
00:52:52,719 --> 00:52:55,000
Speaker 1: up on him, do his stats and hard to remember now.

957
00:52:55,680 --> 00:52:58,520
Speaker 1: Kind of he's to me, he's sort of he sounds

958
00:52:58,560 --> 00:53:01,000
Speaker 1: like a Marionelli guy. Yeah, he's he's kind of a

959
00:53:01,600 --> 00:53:04,040
Speaker 1: maybe a slightly lesser version than Tyron Crawford. To me,

960
00:53:04,200 --> 00:53:06,480
Speaker 1: he's a depth guy who's not gonna be flashy and

961
00:53:07,360 --> 00:53:10,759
Speaker 1: change the world. But Tyrn six four two seventy five

962
00:53:10,880 --> 00:53:13,279
Speaker 1: sixteen and a half career sacks, Coney early six four

963
00:53:13,360 --> 00:53:17,399
Speaker 1: two seventy three fifteen career sacks, Oh wow, Um, he's

964
00:53:17,440 --> 00:53:20,279
Speaker 1: not gonna change the world. I don't think but he's

965
00:53:20,320 --> 00:53:23,200
Speaker 1: a depth guy and Marion Any likes so, yeah, he

966
00:53:23,360 --> 00:53:25,360
Speaker 1: likes those. He likes those guys with a lot of

967
00:53:25,440 --> 00:53:28,120
Speaker 1: potential that maybe haven't quite lived up to it and

968
00:53:28,440 --> 00:53:33,120
Speaker 1: his orphans. Right, yes, So the thirty visits were last

969
00:53:33,160 --> 00:53:35,960
Speaker 1: week as well, Right they were, and you did as

970
00:53:36,080 --> 00:53:40,279
Speaker 1: quick as umny more scouting on the annoying You got

971
00:53:40,360 --> 00:53:43,759
Speaker 1: one sack in one year. I mean you're not. We'll

972
00:53:43,800 --> 00:53:45,440
Speaker 1: give you come in here and do something. We'll get

973
00:53:45,440 --> 00:53:47,320
Speaker 1: you on the sh about that. We'll make you a guess.

974
00:53:47,600 --> 00:53:51,120
Speaker 1: Get your guest Spottle hanging with the boys. H we

975
00:53:51,280 --> 00:53:55,719
Speaker 1: gotta worry about your having enough repsy. I'll ask him

976
00:53:55,719 --> 00:53:58,680
Speaker 1: about his lady friend. Yeah, what'd you woman? What'd you

977
00:53:58,760 --> 00:54:00,279
Speaker 1: ladies sit? You need to get him on, you know,

978
00:54:00,600 --> 00:54:02,359
Speaker 1: need you get what? Need you get him on? We will,

979
00:54:02,440 --> 00:54:04,399
Speaker 1: We'll get him on you. We're gonna do some cool

980
00:54:04,440 --> 00:54:06,959
Speaker 1: stuff this year. We're gonna do well. I'm not gonna

981
00:54:07,000 --> 00:54:09,520
Speaker 1: say it. We're gonna try. Yeah, we're gonna try to

982
00:54:09,640 --> 00:54:11,840
Speaker 1: do I think we have the technology to where we

983
00:54:11,960 --> 00:54:16,000
Speaker 1: can do wireless mic access in the building and Nate

984
00:54:16,080 --> 00:54:17,480
Speaker 1: and I are going to attempt to go in the

985
00:54:17,600 --> 00:54:19,520
Speaker 1: locker room a couple of times a week and just

986
00:54:19,719 --> 00:54:22,560
Speaker 1: grab guys if we can't get them into stutation as

987
00:54:22,600 --> 00:54:25,640
Speaker 1: willing to take a risk. So maybe we won't grab guys,

988
00:54:25,719 --> 00:54:28,080
Speaker 1: but maybe we'll try to worst them to be on

989
00:54:28,280 --> 00:54:31,040
Speaker 1: the show. Grabbing guys in the locker room may not

990
00:54:31,160 --> 00:54:33,320
Speaker 1: work out too well for for me at least. What

991
00:54:33,480 --> 00:54:38,960
Speaker 1: about James Daniels, I will end is Connell Williams. What

992
00:54:39,080 --> 00:54:41,120
Speaker 1: are we talking about? You like these offensive lines? Where'd

993
00:54:41,120 --> 00:54:42,920
Speaker 1: you get this list? Kurt? You just do some risks.

994
00:54:42,960 --> 00:54:45,760
Speaker 1: It's just this is not official. It's not a FICI official.

995
00:54:45,880 --> 00:54:48,480
Speaker 1: This was just kind of going through over the internet

996
00:54:48,560 --> 00:54:57,000
Speaker 1: and finding speaking a positively, we need to get him

997
00:54:57,239 --> 00:54:59,200
Speaker 1: because of the name. We could do so many things,

998
00:54:59,280 --> 00:55:03,160
Speaker 1: but that Calvin Ridley was the only one I actually saw,

999
00:55:03,760 --> 00:55:05,440
Speaker 1: so I know he was here. But the rest of

1000
00:55:05,520 --> 00:55:08,320
Speaker 1: the names other wide receivers. DJ Moore, who's kind of

1001
00:55:08,719 --> 00:55:13,560
Speaker 1: David Hellman's pet cat. He loves him. Christian Christian Kirk

1002
00:55:13,719 --> 00:55:16,440
Speaker 1: from B and M. James Washington who Nick Eamon is

1003
00:55:16,440 --> 00:55:20,760
Speaker 1: a big fan of, and what were your picturing callaway

1004
00:55:21,120 --> 00:55:23,879
Speaker 1: Florida guy, Derees Fountain Northern. I always small school guys,

1005
00:55:23,960 --> 00:55:27,440
Speaker 1: so never why did they bring in the kid from Washington,

1006
00:55:28,360 --> 00:55:33,279
Speaker 1: the big, the big by the y. Why did they

1007
00:55:33,320 --> 00:55:35,000
Speaker 1: bring you all? Right? Wouldn't they? I mean, you don't

1008
00:55:35,040 --> 00:55:38,200
Speaker 1: think he'd be a guy that we don't value that

1009
00:55:38,280 --> 00:55:41,600
Speaker 1: type of guy who got I thought, we don't see.

1010
00:55:41,760 --> 00:55:44,239
Speaker 1: This is one thing that makes me laugh. We don't

1011
00:55:44,360 --> 00:55:46,880
Speaker 1: value a guy that's a great run stop, but this

1012
00:55:47,040 --> 00:55:50,080
Speaker 1: has the potential to be a great run stop. We

1013
00:55:50,200 --> 00:55:52,120
Speaker 1: don't value a guy that can eat up a lot

1014
00:55:52,200 --> 00:55:55,279
Speaker 1: of blocks, you know, and keep folks off of the linebackers.

1015
00:55:55,640 --> 00:55:58,080
Speaker 1: But every year the first thing coach Marionetta says, we

1016
00:55:58,120 --> 00:56:01,640
Speaker 1: need to stop the run, right. I think Nearly's changing

1017
00:56:02,000 --> 00:56:04,520
Speaker 1: in a little bit, like wow, but we don't. We

1018
00:56:04,800 --> 00:56:06,959
Speaker 1: don't want to message that type of guy because he's

1019
00:56:07,000 --> 00:56:09,800
Speaker 1: just a big one technique and you may get twenty

1020
00:56:09,840 --> 00:56:12,680
Speaker 1: five twenty through snaps out of him on first and

1021
00:56:12,800 --> 00:56:16,440
Speaker 1: second down. Marion Nearly told reporters here that Via was

1022
00:56:16,520 --> 00:56:18,840
Speaker 1: a three down player, not a typical nose guard. So

1023
00:56:19,239 --> 00:56:21,520
Speaker 1: maybe he's changing his mind about it. I hope so,

1024
00:56:21,719 --> 00:56:25,040
Speaker 1: because if you don't stop the run, guess who got

1025
00:56:25,120 --> 00:56:26,640
Speaker 1: to try to make all these tackles and then we

1026
00:56:26,680 --> 00:56:30,879
Speaker 1: won't have him for six games, Charlie, Yeah, we don't

1027
00:56:30,920 --> 00:56:34,200
Speaker 1: need that. And Douglas didn't have much to contribute today

1028
00:56:34,239 --> 00:56:36,600
Speaker 1: as far as show prep. But I'm gonna tell you

1029
00:56:36,680 --> 00:56:39,640
Speaker 1: what he did contribute. Man, Henna, hear what he did. True.

1030
00:56:39,680 --> 00:56:43,279
Speaker 1: He came in thirty minutes early because man him nor

1031
00:56:43,360 --> 00:56:45,759
Speaker 1: him to talk for thirty minutes. He ran over there

1032
00:56:45,880 --> 00:56:49,600
Speaker 1: and got this. He started hooking up wires to the studio, right, yeah,

1033
00:56:49,800 --> 00:56:51,800
Speaker 1: and he's and so we could be in here and

1034
00:56:51,920 --> 00:56:54,320
Speaker 1: not in the TV show. I like the TV student,

1035
00:56:54,360 --> 00:56:56,919
Speaker 1: and I'm trying to talk to him, right, and all

1036
00:56:57,000 --> 00:57:00,160
Speaker 1: I got was his back and his pants was hanging off.

1037
00:57:00,320 --> 00:57:02,560
Speaker 1: I'm like, I don't want to see he saw butt crack. Yeah,

1038
00:57:03,880 --> 00:57:08,600
Speaker 1: thirty minutes you could have. I don't want to see

1039
00:57:08,680 --> 00:57:11,759
Speaker 1: this for thirty minutes. Oh you should have to see

1040
00:57:11,800 --> 00:57:16,240
Speaker 1: that for thirty seconds. Wow. But what Douglas did contribute

1041
00:57:16,760 --> 00:57:18,760
Speaker 1: to the show is On this day in history in

1042
00:57:18,880 --> 00:57:22,840
Speaker 1: nineteen forty five, the NFL requires players to wear long stockings.

1043
00:57:23,680 --> 00:57:27,400
Speaker 1: Former Cowboys cornerback Kevin Mathis was born in nineteen seventy

1044
00:57:27,440 --> 00:57:30,920
Speaker 1: four and former Cowboys tight end Rob A. Walt was

1045
00:57:31,000 --> 00:57:33,440
Speaker 1: born in nineteen sixty five. Nate would have known a

1046
00:57:33,560 --> 00:57:38,240
Speaker 1: Walt Digging. He was signing playing b free agency. Yeah

1047
00:57:38,240 --> 00:57:42,000
Speaker 1: he did do no Digging. Should have done a little

1048
00:57:42,040 --> 00:57:46,840
Speaker 1: more like gugg his pants up over his yes something

1049
00:57:47,000 --> 00:57:50,560
Speaker 1: Nature can't let me do that just joke. I had

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Speaker 1: to get him somehow because he didn't talk to me. Well,

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Speaker 1: go buy your Star magazine. Kurt, thanks for showing up.

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Speaker 1: Thank you, Nate, thanks for bringing thanks for wearing boys colors. No,

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Speaker 1: thank you for the tyron Is Crawfitt Tyrone Crawfitt union. Yes, yeah,

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Speaker 1: that was pretty good. We might make him a We

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Speaker 1: might make him a regular on the show this year.

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Speaker 1: So Douglas, thanks for doing what you do. Thanks for

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Speaker 1: but actually never again, all you other guys, thanks for

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Speaker 1: doing what you do. We will be back next Monday

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Speaker 1: without Kurt. Right now, man, I'll be going on a

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Speaker 1: documentary trip. Wow. So where are you going, Florida? I'm

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Speaker 1: going here, gonna okay, But you know what, we should

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Speaker 1: be more draft because he's getting closer. We're gonna win

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Speaker 1: another week before we get deep into the draft. We

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Speaker 1: can start. Maybe we can get us a guest guest

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Speaker 1: fellow draft guru, maybe you can talk to you. Buddy

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Speaker 1: brought us into coming in here. Yeah, because he finally

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Speaker 1: gave us a mock. Yeah, I got his pet cats.

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Speaker 1: And this is my favorite part of the magazine. Every

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Speaker 1: position there is a last ten that we drafted, the

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Speaker 1: best that we drafted at that position, and then Brian's

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Speaker 1: pet cat teachers on every one of these positions in

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Speaker 1: this draft magazine. All right, we will be back a

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Speaker 1: week from Monday without Kurt on hanging with the boys.

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Speaker 1: This has been a production of Dallas Cowboys dot Com

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