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Speaker 1: Hey, it's Sauce on the Side. I think this is

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Speaker 1: like maybe episode nine or something. We're getting so high

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Speaker 2: We just need to stop.

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Speaker 3: Calvin, I love it.

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Speaker 2: According to Andrew, by the way, the voice you hear

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Speaker 1: Hi, Hi Diamond, my producer, I love you. According to Andrew,

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Speaker 1: it's going really well. He said, our numbers are killing it.

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Speaker 4: But he also could be lying. So do you want

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Speaker 4: to trust him? Yeah, we're gonna trust him today.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, no, you know what, You're right.

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Speaker 1: Andrew is a liar and a cheat and a menace

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Speaker 1: to society. Andrew, Andrew's sketchy, So this podcast could.

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Speaker 2: Be completely tanking. I'm glad you put that in my head.

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Speaker 2: Thank you.

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Speaker 4: Well, maybe he should be burned today.

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Speaker 2: Oh we should burn Andrew burn books.

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Speaker 1: I'm super excited. I think you're a little excited too,

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Speaker 1: very excited. So, as we talk about all the time,

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Speaker 1: Sauce on the Side is a side of me at

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Speaker 1: Baby Hot Sauce, we get to talk about and talk

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Speaker 1: to people about things that we don't talk about on

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Speaker 2: We had an archaeologist last week. It was great.

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Speaker 1: We've had OnlyFans, content creators we are going to have scientists,

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Speaker 1: so we're going to have doctors, and today we're going

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Speaker 1: to have Holly Madison. Yes, formerly of The Girls next Door.

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Speaker 1: And I say formerly because she has come a long

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Speaker 4: I watched the show. I probably shouldn't have been watching

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Speaker 4: And I'm very excited to see what she's like.

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Speaker 2: Did you see her in the green room?

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Speaker 3: Oh?

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Speaker 1: She looks amazing, incredible. There's just so much going on

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Speaker 4: I just want to listen for a second.

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Speaker 1: I watch well, I love it and I hate it.

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Speaker 2: I know, to which I say, take that check mark,

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Speaker 2: Oh no, You're gonna love this.

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Speaker 4: I can't wait. Just come on, bring Holly in.

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Speaker 2: Well.

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Speaker 1: Okay, so you know Holly Madison from the Girls next Door.

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Speaker 1: Now you're about to have a true crime series, Yes,

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Speaker 3: Yeah, it's my second true crime series. It's called Lethally Blonde.

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Speaker 3: his girlfriends to like have been strippers or sex workers

444
00:17:50,840 --> 00:17:53,320
Speaker 3: or in like an adult film or anything. He had

445
00:17:53,320 --> 00:17:56,440
Speaker 3: to really hang real hang up about it. Okay, Yeah, so.

446
00:17:56,400 --> 00:17:59,040
Speaker 1: That stuff would get you kicked out now in retrospect

447
00:17:59,040 --> 00:18:02,720
Speaker 1: because obviously he had three two seven girlfriends depending on Yeah,

448
00:18:02,800 --> 00:18:05,200
Speaker 1: did any of the girls have boyfriends?

449
00:18:05,800 --> 00:18:08,280
Speaker 3: All of them did except me and Bridget really single

450
00:18:08,280 --> 00:18:09,960
Speaker 3: one of them, Like I might be forgetting, maybe there

451
00:18:09,960 --> 00:18:12,640
Speaker 3: was one person who didn't. Like I'm making a broad generalization,

452
00:18:12,680 --> 00:18:15,040
Speaker 3: but I'm pretty sure if I went through every single

453
00:18:15,040 --> 00:18:18,680
Speaker 3: person that lived there when I did, Yeah.

454
00:18:17,600 --> 00:18:19,080
Speaker 2: And that wouldn't get them kicked out or that was

455
00:18:19,119 --> 00:18:20,000
Speaker 2: just on the download they.

456
00:18:20,000 --> 00:18:22,760
Speaker 3: Just didn't get caught. Yeah, Okay, Well, A lot of

457
00:18:22,760 --> 00:18:24,280
Speaker 3: them did get kicked out over the years while I

458
00:18:24,320 --> 00:18:26,280
Speaker 3: was there, because they did get caught. Like a few

459
00:18:26,280 --> 00:18:28,399
Speaker 3: months after I'd moved in, one girl said she was

460
00:18:28,400 --> 00:18:30,200
Speaker 3: going home to visit her family for a few days,

461
00:18:30,200 --> 00:18:32,240
Speaker 3: but he found out she was seeing a guy, so

462
00:18:32,320 --> 00:18:34,480
Speaker 3: all her stuff got packed in boxes and like sent

463
00:18:34,520 --> 00:18:36,399
Speaker 3: out the back gate. And I was like, whoa, that

464
00:18:36,520 --> 00:18:37,160
Speaker 3: was fast.

465
00:18:37,359 --> 00:18:39,720
Speaker 2: That in itself is like so dramatic. Yeah, reality too.

466
00:18:40,000 --> 00:18:41,480
Speaker 3: Yeah. So if you're living there and you feel like

467
00:18:41,520 --> 00:18:44,159
Speaker 3: you don't have anywhere to go, that's a little scary.

468
00:18:44,160 --> 00:18:45,920
Speaker 3: You start to feel like, damn, I better like keep

469
00:18:45,960 --> 00:18:47,320
Speaker 3: on the straight and narrow because I don't want to

470
00:18:47,359 --> 00:18:48,560
Speaker 3: be kicked out tomorrow.

471
00:18:48,720 --> 00:18:52,760
Speaker 1: No, for sure, that would be very stressful. What made

472
00:18:52,800 --> 00:18:54,040
Speaker 1: you finally decide I'm out.

473
00:18:54,119 --> 00:18:55,200
Speaker 2: I don't want to be here anymore.

474
00:18:55,240 --> 00:18:57,359
Speaker 3: It was a lot of things. It was part of

475
00:18:57,400 --> 00:19:00,320
Speaker 3: it was I wanted to have a family, and I

476
00:19:00,400 --> 00:19:02,000
Speaker 3: knew that wasn't going to happen there.

477
00:19:02,480 --> 00:19:02,879
Speaker 4: I was.

478
00:19:03,119 --> 00:19:05,600
Speaker 3: How old was I when I left? Twenty nine? Yeah,

479
00:19:05,600 --> 00:19:07,359
Speaker 3: So I realized I wanted to have a family, so

480
00:19:07,400 --> 00:19:10,479
Speaker 3: I wanted to leave. And also dynamics were changing in

481
00:19:10,520 --> 00:19:13,399
Speaker 3: his and my relationship, you know, I'd gotten to a

482
00:19:13,440 --> 00:19:15,879
Speaker 3: point where it was really just us, like Bridget and

483
00:19:15,960 --> 00:19:18,320
Speaker 3: Kender were leaving, and I always, you know, throughout my

484
00:19:18,359 --> 00:19:20,399
Speaker 3: time there, had kind of blamed all the problems and

485
00:19:20,440 --> 00:19:22,240
Speaker 3: all the drama on the other girls. But when it

486
00:19:22,280 --> 00:19:24,720
Speaker 3: was just he and I, he kind of went through

487
00:19:24,760 --> 00:19:27,680
Speaker 3: a shift and got really verbally abusive. I still don't

488
00:19:27,720 --> 00:19:29,159
Speaker 3: know what that was all about, but I just I

489
00:19:29,240 --> 00:19:31,639
Speaker 3: just couldn't take it. I remember Bridget was like on

490
00:19:31,680 --> 00:19:34,240
Speaker 3: some islands somewhere shooting a travel show, and I'm texting

491
00:19:34,320 --> 00:19:36,439
Speaker 3: or like, I've got to get out of here, like

492
00:19:36,680 --> 00:19:37,480
Speaker 3: I can't take this.

493
00:19:38,160 --> 00:19:41,000
Speaker 2: Was that a hard conversation to have when you finally decided.

494
00:19:40,760 --> 00:19:42,680
Speaker 3: I'm going to leave one hundred percent? And it was

495
00:19:42,720 --> 00:19:45,400
Speaker 3: a hard decision to come to too. I felt guilty

496
00:19:45,440 --> 00:19:47,360
Speaker 3: for leaving. I shouldn't have, but that was just kind

497
00:19:47,359 --> 00:19:50,440
Speaker 3: of the dynamics of our relationship. I felt guilty for leaving.

498
00:19:50,960 --> 00:19:54,080
Speaker 3: I felt like I'd invested so much in this relationship.

499
00:19:54,160 --> 00:19:56,479
Speaker 3: I felt like everybody knew me as this girl who

500
00:19:56,600 --> 00:19:58,800
Speaker 3: dated Hugh Hefner, and that's always something I'm going to

501
00:19:58,880 --> 00:20:01,480
Speaker 3: have to like carry with me and like defend or

502
00:20:01,480 --> 00:20:04,920
Speaker 3: live up to or whatever. So it was a hard decision,

503
00:20:05,000 --> 00:20:08,200
Speaker 3: but I came to it pretty suddenly once the straw

504
00:20:08,280 --> 00:20:09,320
Speaker 3: broke the camel's back.

505
00:20:09,600 --> 00:20:11,600
Speaker 1: Do you feel like that is something that's heavy for

506
00:20:11,640 --> 00:20:13,880
Speaker 1: you to carry around now or have you gotten to.

507
00:20:13,840 --> 00:20:15,800
Speaker 2: A place where you're okay with it and.

508
00:20:15,720 --> 00:20:17,560
Speaker 1: You say, you know what, that was my life this

509
00:20:17,680 --> 00:20:19,399
Speaker 1: is my life now and they're completely different.

510
00:20:19,560 --> 00:20:21,800
Speaker 3: Yeah, I'm okay with it now. I'm totally open to

511
00:20:22,000 --> 00:20:24,240
Speaker 3: talking about it, you know, in depth and stuff. But

512
00:20:24,320 --> 00:20:26,359
Speaker 3: I used to not be. I used to hate it.

513
00:20:26,400 --> 00:20:29,159
Speaker 3: I used to want to just completely shift away and

514
00:20:29,200 --> 00:20:31,159
Speaker 3: be like that was a part of my past. It's fine,

515
00:20:31,240 --> 00:20:33,080
Speaker 3: but I only want to talk about what I'm doing now,

516
00:20:33,119 --> 00:20:35,000
Speaker 3: and just nobody else would let it go. So I

517
00:20:35,000 --> 00:20:36,879
Speaker 3: finally just got comfortable with it, and I'm glad I

518
00:20:36,920 --> 00:20:39,000
Speaker 3: did because it allowed me to go pretty deep with it.

519
00:20:39,119 --> 00:20:41,600
Speaker 3: And you know, I'm just cool with it now.

520
00:20:41,720 --> 00:20:43,200
Speaker 2: And now you have a podcast where you can say

521
00:20:43,240 --> 00:20:46,080
Speaker 2: whatever the fuck you want, and that has to be great.

522
00:20:46,320 --> 00:20:46,600
Speaker 3: Yeah.

523
00:20:46,640 --> 00:20:47,080
Speaker 2: I love that.

524
00:20:47,080 --> 00:20:49,800
Speaker 1: I love watching people find their voice or get their

525
00:20:49,880 --> 00:20:53,000
Speaker 1: voice after having been in a completely different area and

526
00:20:53,080 --> 00:20:55,200
Speaker 1: life sort of like in a box at some point,

527
00:20:55,280 --> 00:20:57,720
Speaker 1: and it seems like you leaving open the door to

528
00:20:57,760 --> 00:21:00,399
Speaker 1: you having this wonderful life where you did have a

529
00:21:00,400 --> 00:21:04,480
Speaker 1: family totally and now you get to enjoy family life

530
00:21:04,480 --> 00:21:05,440
Speaker 1: and doing whatever you want.

531
00:21:05,560 --> 00:21:08,159
Speaker 3: Yeah exactly. I mean it went so well, Like I

532
00:21:08,200 --> 00:21:10,480
Speaker 3: worked really hard, but I got lucky too and had

533
00:21:10,560 --> 00:21:13,480
Speaker 3: like an amazing career right after leaving the mansion and everything.

534
00:21:13,520 --> 00:21:16,400
Speaker 3: But when I made the decision to leave, I wasn't

535
00:21:16,440 --> 00:21:18,080
Speaker 3: sure that was going to be the case. Like, obviously

536
00:21:18,080 --> 00:21:19,919
Speaker 3: I was on a really popular TV show, but I

537
00:21:19,920 --> 00:21:22,000
Speaker 3: never really felt famous when I was there because I

538
00:21:22,000 --> 00:21:24,159
Speaker 3: had always been surrounded by like HEF's fame, so it

539
00:21:24,160 --> 00:21:27,080
Speaker 3: always seemed like, you know, things kind of seemed the same,

540
00:21:27,160 --> 00:21:28,880
Speaker 3: like I'm just like standing in his shadow.

541
00:21:29,200 --> 00:21:29,800
Speaker 4: So I was.

542
00:21:29,800 --> 00:21:32,320
Speaker 3: Scared to leave and that I didn't know if anybody

543
00:21:32,320 --> 00:21:34,800
Speaker 3: would accept me or what would be out there for me.

544
00:21:35,040 --> 00:21:38,040
Speaker 3: You know, everything had been wrapped up in this relationship

545
00:21:38,119 --> 00:21:41,560
Speaker 3: every you know, it had been my job at the

546
00:21:41,760 --> 00:21:44,080
Speaker 3: you know, at the studio and on the show and

547
00:21:44,119 --> 00:21:46,360
Speaker 3: everything like that. So it was scary. But I got

548
00:21:46,359 --> 00:21:48,040
Speaker 3: on my feet really quickly, thank God.

549
00:21:48,280 --> 00:21:49,800
Speaker 1: So what was what was the path you leave the

550
00:21:49,800 --> 00:21:52,120
Speaker 1: mansion and then what was your first move to kind

551
00:21:52,160 --> 00:21:53,360
Speaker 1: of just do things on your own.

552
00:21:53,920 --> 00:21:56,000
Speaker 3: I wanted to be in a show in Vegas. I'd

553
00:21:56,040 --> 00:21:59,159
Speaker 3: started talking to a show called Crazy Horse Paris that

554
00:21:59,240 --> 00:22:01,159
Speaker 3: used to be at the MGA, and I was supposed

555
00:22:01,160 --> 00:22:03,960
Speaker 3: to do a guest spot in that, but another show

556
00:22:03,960 --> 00:22:07,720
Speaker 3: came along that was a bigger, higher paying production, and

557
00:22:07,760 --> 00:22:09,800
Speaker 3: I did that for four years. And I did my

558
00:22:09,840 --> 00:22:12,520
Speaker 3: own show called Holly's World, which was a Girl's next

559
00:22:12,520 --> 00:22:15,359
Speaker 3: Door spin off in Vegas. And then I got married

560
00:22:15,359 --> 00:22:16,679
Speaker 3: and had kids, and now I'm.

561
00:22:16,520 --> 00:22:19,800
Speaker 1: Here, you are raising two kids, and I read one

562
00:22:19,840 --> 00:22:21,320
Speaker 1: of the things that you said you're never going to

563
00:22:21,400 --> 00:22:25,120
Speaker 1: do with your children is talk about diet and body issues.

564
00:22:25,520 --> 00:22:25,800
Speaker 4: Yeah.

565
00:22:25,880 --> 00:22:28,200
Speaker 3: I try really hard to stay away from that. I'm

566
00:22:28,240 --> 00:22:31,359
Speaker 3: so careful. Even like if they want me to eat

567
00:22:31,600 --> 00:22:34,080
Speaker 3: macaroni and cheese with them and I'm trying not to,

568
00:22:34,320 --> 00:22:36,720
Speaker 3: I come up with something like, oh, I'm on a

569
00:22:36,760 --> 00:22:38,560
Speaker 3: health plan or something like. I try to stay away

570
00:22:38,560 --> 00:22:40,840
Speaker 3: from the words diet or try to stay away from

571
00:22:40,880 --> 00:22:42,560
Speaker 3: talking about weight as much as I can.

572
00:22:43,040 --> 00:22:44,880
Speaker 2: That's got to be tough, though, it is.

573
00:22:44,960 --> 00:22:47,439
Speaker 3: It is. It's like when you're trying to, you know,

574
00:22:47,680 --> 00:22:49,679
Speaker 3: change your language in some way, and you're always like

575
00:22:49,720 --> 00:22:52,720
Speaker 3: catching yourself. But I think I've done pretty good so far.

576
00:22:53,400 --> 00:22:55,919
Speaker 1: Are you prepared if one of your children wants to

577
00:22:55,920 --> 00:22:58,880
Speaker 1: get into the same line of business as you used

578
00:22:58,880 --> 00:23:02,640
Speaker 1: to be in specific like, okay, so if your daughter

579
00:23:02,720 --> 00:23:04,399
Speaker 1: decides one day she wants to be in the adult

580
00:23:04,480 --> 00:23:06,240
Speaker 1: entertainment world, not gonna happen.

581
00:23:06,840 --> 00:23:09,480
Speaker 3: I mean her dad would her dad would like I

582
00:23:09,480 --> 00:23:12,160
Speaker 3: don't know what he would do, but just not gonna happen.

583
00:23:12,280 --> 00:23:16,160
Speaker 3: I mean we try to, you know, since day one,

584
00:23:16,160 --> 00:23:18,240
Speaker 3: it's always been really important to us to raise her

585
00:23:18,280 --> 00:23:20,760
Speaker 3: to be passionate about what she likes doing, whether it's

586
00:23:20,760 --> 00:23:23,280
Speaker 3: horseback riding and surfing, and really focus on that. So

587
00:23:23,320 --> 00:23:27,800
Speaker 3: I try to stay away from emphasizing anything about looks,

588
00:23:28,080 --> 00:23:32,119
Speaker 3: anything about trying to make people like you. She's not

589
00:23:32,160 --> 00:23:35,080
Speaker 3: at the stage where she's like liking boys yet. I mean,

590
00:23:35,080 --> 00:23:38,960
Speaker 3: we're really trying to be proactive and just what we emphasize.

591
00:23:39,040 --> 00:23:39,840
Speaker 3: We'll see how it goes.

592
00:23:39,920 --> 00:23:42,159
Speaker 1: But is it weird for them if people recognize you?

593
00:23:42,400 --> 00:23:44,520
Speaker 1: Do they have any idea that, like, hey, mom's famous.

594
00:23:45,119 --> 00:23:47,280
Speaker 3: They see people recognize you. Sometimes they know I have

595
00:23:47,320 --> 00:23:49,760
Speaker 3: a YouTube channel, they don't know what the videos are.

596
00:23:49,960 --> 00:23:51,720
Speaker 3: They know I have a podcast, they don't know what

597
00:23:51,760 --> 00:23:54,800
Speaker 3: it's about I'm just hoping they're not real interested when

598
00:23:54,800 --> 00:23:55,600
Speaker 3: they find out.

599
00:23:55,960 --> 00:23:57,880
Speaker 1: I feel like the saving grace is that kids never

600
00:23:57,920 --> 00:23:59,840
Speaker 1: think what their parents are doing is cool or anything

601
00:23:59,840 --> 00:24:01,400
Speaker 1: that they want to investigate exactly.

602
00:24:01,760 --> 00:24:03,080
Speaker 3: That's what I am banking on.

603
00:24:04,080 --> 00:24:05,760
Speaker 2: Please just think I'm a door. Can you move on

604
00:24:05,800 --> 00:24:06,359
Speaker 2: with your life?

605
00:24:06,960 --> 00:24:09,760
Speaker 1: What are your plans going forward? I mean, obviously you

606
00:24:09,800 --> 00:24:12,040
Speaker 1: have Lethally Blonde, so that's exciting. We're going to focus

607
00:24:12,040 --> 00:24:14,080
Speaker 1: on that a lot. You have a podcast. Are there

608
00:24:14,119 --> 00:24:16,159
Speaker 1: other things on your bucket? Lest you've also written books?

609
00:24:16,280 --> 00:24:17,960
Speaker 3: Yeah, I'd love to do more of the same. I

610
00:24:18,000 --> 00:24:19,760
Speaker 3: love being in the true crime space. I love to

611
00:24:19,800 --> 00:24:22,400
Speaker 3: do more of that. Short term. I'm excited about taking

612
00:24:22,400 --> 00:24:25,040
Speaker 3: my kids on a Disney cruise for spring break. Oh yeah,

613
00:24:25,160 --> 00:24:26,760
Speaker 3: so I'm just like all about more of the same. Like,

614
00:24:26,800 --> 00:24:28,880
Speaker 3: I'm totally happy right now. Would just love to keep

615
00:24:28,920 --> 00:24:29,800
Speaker 3: doing more of the same.

616
00:24:30,280 --> 00:24:32,440
Speaker 1: Okay, So I want to talk about something that I read.

617
00:24:32,760 --> 00:24:36,000
Speaker 1: You fairly recently found out that you are on the

618
00:24:36,040 --> 00:24:40,240
Speaker 1: autism spectrum. What made you even go to get that

619
00:24:40,320 --> 00:24:41,840
Speaker 1: diagnosis or even get a test?

620
00:24:42,200 --> 00:24:43,760
Speaker 2: What made you think something was going on?

621
00:24:43,920 --> 00:24:46,359
Speaker 3: Well, my mom brought it up and said that she'd

622
00:24:46,359 --> 00:24:48,040
Speaker 3: suspected that for a while.

623
00:24:47,960 --> 00:24:49,679
Speaker 2: Like your mom brought it up recently within the.

624
00:24:49,720 --> 00:24:51,760
Speaker 3: Last five years. Okay, yeah, she was talking to my

625
00:24:51,760 --> 00:24:54,880
Speaker 3: ex husband about it, and I looked up the symptoms

626
00:24:54,920 --> 00:24:56,919
Speaker 3: and I thought, wow, this really sounds like me. Like

627
00:24:57,000 --> 00:24:58,600
Speaker 3: I always knew I was a little bit different, but

628
00:24:58,640 --> 00:25:01,320
Speaker 3: I always wrote it off to being exc extremely introverted,

629
00:25:01,600 --> 00:25:03,640
Speaker 3: or maybe it's because I grew up in a really

630
00:25:03,680 --> 00:25:06,600
Speaker 3: isolated place in Alaska. I don't know. I always made

631
00:25:06,680 --> 00:25:09,200
Speaker 3: up all these excuses. I knew something was off for sure,

632
00:25:09,280 --> 00:25:11,600
Speaker 3: but never knew what it was. And it even started

633
00:25:11,600 --> 00:25:13,840
Speaker 3: coming up in interviews. If I was doing, like say,

634
00:25:13,840 --> 00:25:17,000
Speaker 3: an in depth podcast interview, i'd bring it up because

635
00:25:17,000 --> 00:25:19,760
Speaker 3: I felt like it applied, maybe as a factor in

636
00:25:19,800 --> 00:25:22,720
Speaker 3: some decisions I made and things like that. And I thought,

637
00:25:22,720 --> 00:25:24,919
Speaker 3: you know, I can't talk about this publicly unless I

638
00:25:24,920 --> 00:25:27,439
Speaker 3: get a formal diagnosis. So I did that last summer,

639
00:25:28,040 --> 00:25:31,959
Speaker 3: and it's been really great just knowing what's going on

640
00:25:32,000 --> 00:25:34,040
Speaker 3: with me. I feel like I feel like I can

641
00:25:34,040 --> 00:25:36,639
Speaker 3: handle myself better. I feel like I know why I

642
00:25:36,680 --> 00:25:39,240
Speaker 3: do what I do, and it's been great.

643
00:25:39,720 --> 00:25:42,199
Speaker 1: So coming from a place of complete ignorance with this,

644
00:25:42,440 --> 00:25:45,680
Speaker 1: what is the testing like for something like that, did

645
00:25:45,720 --> 00:25:46,360
Speaker 1: you go through.

646
00:25:46,200 --> 00:25:48,159
Speaker 3: Oh yeah, I found a great doctor and we did

647
00:25:48,240 --> 00:25:51,760
Speaker 3: it over zoom. It was over seven points. I don't

648
00:25:51,760 --> 00:25:54,320
Speaker 3: even remember how many appointments it was. I vlogged everything, like,

649
00:25:54,359 --> 00:25:56,080
Speaker 3: not the actual appointment, but I would do like a

650
00:25:56,160 --> 00:25:58,800
Speaker 3: confessional like before and after each appointment, kind of say

651
00:25:58,800 --> 00:26:00,720
Speaker 3: what was going on. Never edited it, never put it

652
00:26:00,760 --> 00:26:03,760
Speaker 3: up someday, Well I would check in and I'd be like, Okay,

653
00:26:03,760 --> 00:26:06,080
Speaker 3: this is I think my seventh appointment. Like I would

654
00:26:06,119 --> 00:26:09,400
Speaker 3: lose track. But they do all kinds of quizzes, ask

655
00:26:09,440 --> 00:26:11,919
Speaker 3: you all kinds of questions. They show you pictures of

656
00:26:11,960 --> 00:26:14,919
Speaker 3: like people's eyes and ask you what expressions are they making?

657
00:26:15,119 --> 00:26:17,959
Speaker 3: Things like that. They also would take appointments with like

658
00:26:18,000 --> 00:26:19,760
Speaker 3: my mom and my ex husband because they want to

659
00:26:19,760 --> 00:26:22,200
Speaker 3: talk to other people who've interacted with you, Oh wow,

660
00:26:22,200 --> 00:26:23,720
Speaker 3: in depth and see what's going on.

661
00:26:24,320 --> 00:26:26,400
Speaker 2: So now that you know that this is what you're

662
00:26:26,400 --> 00:26:27,240
Speaker 2: dealing with, are there.

663
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Speaker 1: Ways that they've given you to I don't even want

664
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Speaker 1: to say cope, because I don't think that it's a

665
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Speaker 1: horrible thing.

666
00:26:32,560 --> 00:26:35,600
Speaker 3: Yeah me, Like they call it a spectrum for the reason.

667
00:26:35,720 --> 00:26:38,040
Speaker 3: For a reason, because people, you know, have it to

668
00:26:38,160 --> 00:26:41,880
Speaker 3: varying degrees, and I have pretty good, you know, executive functioning.

669
00:26:41,920 --> 00:26:45,359
Speaker 3: I come off, you know, I can operate quote unquote normally,

670
00:26:45,720 --> 00:26:47,400
Speaker 3: and a lot of people out there have a lot

671
00:26:47,400 --> 00:26:51,520
Speaker 3: more challenges. But I think I'm good. Like I love

672
00:26:52,040 --> 00:26:53,879
Speaker 3: that I found I love the fact that I found

673
00:26:53,920 --> 00:26:56,080
Speaker 3: somebody that I know I can make another appointment with

674
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Speaker 3: and talk to you if I feel like there's something

675
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Speaker 3: I want to work on. My main concern was I

676
00:27:00,440 --> 00:27:03,000
Speaker 3: just want to make sure I'm interacting with my kids

677
00:27:03,040 --> 00:27:06,320
Speaker 3: in a way where they feel loved, because sometimes being

678
00:27:06,320 --> 00:27:08,440
Speaker 3: on the spectrum, you can come off really really distant,

679
00:27:08,720 --> 00:27:10,560
Speaker 3: Like I have what they call flat effect, which means

680
00:27:10,560 --> 00:27:13,960
Speaker 3: my voice is really monotone, and like my expressions aren't

681
00:27:13,960 --> 00:27:16,800
Speaker 3: as lively, like I have resting pitch face all the time.

682
00:27:17,160 --> 00:27:19,720
Speaker 3: So that was more of my concern more than anything,

683
00:27:19,800 --> 00:27:22,760
Speaker 3: like I'm I was forty five when I found this out,

684
00:27:22,920 --> 00:27:25,000
Speaker 3: so as forty four. I found it out last summer,

685
00:27:25,440 --> 00:27:27,560
Speaker 3: and you know, I've gone through life this far, so

686
00:27:27,640 --> 00:27:29,680
Speaker 3: I'm kind of fine with it. I'm kind of over

687
00:27:29,920 --> 00:27:31,879
Speaker 3: you know, what everybody else might think of me, But

688
00:27:31,920 --> 00:27:33,679
Speaker 3: I just want to make sure that as a parent,

689
00:27:33,760 --> 00:27:35,960
Speaker 3: I was expressing myself the best way possible.

690
00:27:36,200 --> 00:27:38,280
Speaker 1: I will say, I've been reading a lot, and you know,

691
00:27:38,359 --> 00:27:40,840
Speaker 1: March is Women's History Month, and one of the things

692
00:27:40,880 --> 00:27:42,679
Speaker 1: we talk about all the time is the disparity in

693
00:27:42,720 --> 00:27:46,480
Speaker 1: medical care and that women often do not get diagnosed

694
00:27:46,520 --> 00:27:49,520
Speaker 1: at all with any type of autism spectrum disorder, or

695
00:27:49,560 --> 00:27:52,199
Speaker 1: they get diagnosed far later in life when they're the

696
00:27:52,200 --> 00:27:54,680
Speaker 1: ones that have realized, hey, you know what, there's something

697
00:27:54,720 --> 00:27:56,600
Speaker 1: a little bit strange.

698
00:27:56,200 --> 00:27:57,840
Speaker 2: Going on with me, and I want to go get

699
00:27:57,840 --> 00:27:58,360
Speaker 2: it looked at.

700
00:27:58,480 --> 00:28:01,640
Speaker 1: Whereas boys get these knows he's very young and they're

701
00:28:01,680 --> 00:28:04,280
Speaker 1: able to deal with, cope with whatever, have these these

702
00:28:04,560 --> 00:28:08,119
Speaker 1: mechanisms to go forward in life. How what are signs

703
00:28:08,200 --> 00:28:10,439
Speaker 1: or symptoms to you that you would say, hey, you

704
00:28:10,440 --> 00:28:12,879
Speaker 1: know what, ladies, girls, if this is how you're feeling,

705
00:28:13,160 --> 00:28:14,400
Speaker 1: go get yourself checked out.

706
00:28:14,800 --> 00:28:16,439
Speaker 3: Oh my gosh, there's so many. I mean, for me,

707
00:28:16,560 --> 00:28:18,600
Speaker 3: the first thing that tipped my mom off is when

708
00:28:18,600 --> 00:28:20,919
Speaker 3: I was a toddler, I would just zone out, like

709
00:28:21,000 --> 00:28:23,480
Speaker 3: my eyes would lock into the sky and I would

710
00:28:23,520 --> 00:28:26,000
Speaker 3: just look like I was disappearing. So that was one.

711
00:28:26,840 --> 00:28:28,359
Speaker 3: I think A big one for me too, is not

712
00:28:28,400 --> 00:28:31,719
Speaker 3: recognizing social cues, not picking up on social cues. For

713
00:28:31,760 --> 00:28:34,720
Speaker 3: the longest time, I never made eye contact until recently.

714
00:28:35,280 --> 00:28:36,960
Speaker 3: I just always felt like I had such a hard

715
00:28:36,960 --> 00:28:40,880
Speaker 3: time connecting with other people and I wasn't coming across

716
00:28:40,920 --> 00:28:42,560
Speaker 3: normal and I didn't really know why.

717
00:28:42,640 --> 00:28:45,320
Speaker 1: How has that affected your personal life?

718
00:28:45,320 --> 00:28:48,480
Speaker 3: I mean, it's not really a lot of changes, because

719
00:28:48,480 --> 00:28:50,320
Speaker 3: the guy I was dating for the last five years,

720
00:28:50,360 --> 00:28:53,080
Speaker 3: he really the great thing about him is he really

721
00:28:53,160 --> 00:28:56,280
Speaker 3: understood me, and he's an introvert as well, so he

722
00:28:56,360 --> 00:29:00,400
Speaker 3: was never judge about how introverted I was or things that. Like,

723
00:29:00,440 --> 00:29:03,440
Speaker 3: I've been in relationships before where people didn't understand why

724
00:29:03,480 --> 00:29:05,840
Speaker 3: I was so introverted or why I didn't connect with

725
00:29:05,880 --> 00:29:08,480
Speaker 3: people or get on with people as well, and I

726
00:29:08,520 --> 00:29:11,040
Speaker 3: felt really judged for it, you know, like they felt

727
00:29:11,080 --> 00:29:12,560
Speaker 3: like I was a bad person. Well.

728
00:29:12,560 --> 00:29:14,320
Speaker 1: I think one of the things that's really hard for

729
00:29:14,600 --> 00:29:17,560
Speaker 1: the public to understand about people who are in the

730
00:29:17,600 --> 00:29:20,960
Speaker 1: spotlight is that you can be in the spotlight and

731
00:29:21,000 --> 00:29:23,960
Speaker 1: still be very introverted and still be very shy, And

732
00:29:24,000 --> 00:29:25,480
Speaker 1: I think that's tough for people to sort of wrap

733
00:29:25,520 --> 00:29:26,240
Speaker 1: their minds around.

734
00:29:26,640 --> 00:29:28,840
Speaker 3: Absolutely. I think for me, when I was younger, I

735
00:29:28,880 --> 00:29:31,320
Speaker 3: wanted to be famous in some way. I don't know how,

736
00:29:31,600 --> 00:29:33,320
Speaker 3: and I didn't know why back then, except it just

737
00:29:33,360 --> 00:29:35,200
Speaker 3: kind of looks fun. And I think every kid goes

738
00:29:35,200 --> 00:29:37,000
Speaker 3: through a phase where they want to be famous. But

739
00:29:37,120 --> 00:29:40,040
Speaker 3: looking back, I feel like subconsciously I felt like it

740
00:29:40,080 --> 00:29:42,480
Speaker 3: would be a shortcut to connecting with people because they

741
00:29:42,480 --> 00:29:44,600
Speaker 3: did have such a hard time connecting with people. I thought, well,

742
00:29:44,640 --> 00:29:47,240
Speaker 3: if I'm known and people know me from this, you

743
00:29:47,360 --> 00:29:50,200
Speaker 3: have that connection already, which spoiler alert, being famous does

744
00:29:50,200 --> 00:29:51,520
Speaker 3: not help you connect with people.

745
00:29:52,000 --> 00:29:53,440
Speaker 2: It might be more isolating sometimes.

746
00:29:53,560 --> 00:29:55,880
Speaker 3: Yeah, I think so too, But I think that wasn't

747
00:29:55,880 --> 00:29:57,240
Speaker 3: what I was thinking in the back of my mind

748
00:29:57,280 --> 00:29:58,560
Speaker 3: when I was younger. I think that's why I was

749
00:29:58,560 --> 00:29:59,720
Speaker 3: attracted to that for sure.

750
00:30:00,120 --> 00:30:02,680
Speaker 1: Has your time in the spotlight and dealing with so

751
00:30:02,840 --> 00:30:06,080
Speaker 1: many celebrities who have come through the Playboy Mansion or

752
00:30:06,160 --> 00:30:08,320
Speaker 1: just into your life in one way or another, has

753
00:30:08,320 --> 00:30:10,840
Speaker 1: it sort of ruined that illusion of celebrity being cool

754
00:30:11,240 --> 00:30:13,080
Speaker 1: or is it still cool to you?

755
00:30:14,280 --> 00:30:16,840
Speaker 3: Well, it got ruined pretty early. Like I was when

756
00:30:16,880 --> 00:30:18,320
Speaker 3: I first came to the Playboy Mansion, I was the

757
00:30:18,360 --> 00:30:20,840
Speaker 3: most starstruck person in the world. It was one of

758
00:30:20,840 --> 00:30:22,840
Speaker 3: the reasons I was so taken with hef But then

759
00:30:22,880 --> 00:30:25,720
Speaker 3: after I moved in and saw all the underbelly of

760
00:30:25,760 --> 00:30:29,400
Speaker 3: like how people behaved inside the house, and how all

761
00:30:29,400 --> 00:30:32,600
Speaker 3: his other girlfriends would just or not all of them maybe,

762
00:30:32,600 --> 00:30:34,560
Speaker 3: but most of them would like run to jump on

763
00:30:34,640 --> 00:30:36,440
Speaker 3: any celebrity that would give them the time of day.

764
00:30:36,480 --> 00:30:38,320
Speaker 3: I just kind of got a little jaded and grossed

765
00:30:38,320 --> 00:30:39,280
Speaker 3: out by the whole thing.

766
00:30:39,760 --> 00:30:43,080
Speaker 1: Now we're starting to hear all these ridiculous stories. Yeah,

767
00:30:43,120 --> 00:30:47,000
Speaker 1: whether it's at the Playboy Mansion or Diddy whomever, people

768
00:30:47,080 --> 00:30:50,520
Speaker 1: had to have seen these things going on before. Now,

769
00:30:50,960 --> 00:30:52,520
Speaker 1: were there ever things and I'm not going to ask

770
00:30:52,520 --> 00:30:54,800
Speaker 1: you for specifics or names, but were there ever things

771
00:30:54,840 --> 00:30:57,240
Speaker 1: that you saw happening at the Playboy Mansion that you

772
00:30:57,240 --> 00:30:59,800
Speaker 1: were like, that is not right. That's going to come

773
00:30:59,840 --> 00:31:00,680
Speaker 1: out at some point.

774
00:31:01,480 --> 00:31:04,520
Speaker 3: Other than stuff that happened with me personally, I would

775
00:31:04,520 --> 00:31:06,560
Speaker 3: say not necessarily at the mansion, because when I was

776
00:31:06,560 --> 00:31:08,520
Speaker 3: like at the parties, for example, I would always be

777
00:31:08,560 --> 00:31:11,400
Speaker 3: sitting next to Half And you wouldn't think so because

778
00:31:11,440 --> 00:31:13,640
Speaker 3: people think of Helf as this wild person, But when

779
00:31:13,640 --> 00:31:15,760
Speaker 3: people were a guest in his home, they always behaved

780
00:31:15,760 --> 00:31:17,880
Speaker 3: themselves when they were like around his table, like anything

781
00:31:17,920 --> 00:31:21,400
Speaker 3: crazy I heard was happening elsewhere which I wouldn't see,

782
00:31:21,560 --> 00:31:23,840
Speaker 3: but I heard about, you know, some prominent people in

783
00:31:23,880 --> 00:31:26,720
Speaker 3: Hollywood who'd been brought down recently. I remember, you know,

784
00:31:26,720 --> 00:31:28,920
Speaker 3: knowing people who are victims of those people and having

785
00:31:28,960 --> 00:31:32,440
Speaker 3: heard those stories like over fifteen years ago. So a

786
00:31:32,440 --> 00:31:35,240
Speaker 3: lot of the stuff that came out wasn't surprising. But

787
00:31:35,280 --> 00:31:37,320
Speaker 3: you know, people are always like, oh, these people knew,

788
00:31:37,360 --> 00:31:39,400
Speaker 3: these people knew, but it's not your story to come

789
00:31:39,440 --> 00:31:41,800
Speaker 3: forward with, you know, And.

790
00:31:41,240 --> 00:31:43,360
Speaker 1: It almost does someone of disservice if you put their

791
00:31:43,360 --> 00:31:45,360
Speaker 1: information out there and they're not ready to handle it.

792
00:31:45,520 --> 00:31:47,160
Speaker 3: Yeah, you can't do it. And if you're not the

793
00:31:47,200 --> 00:31:48,960
Speaker 3: one with the proof, you could get in trouble. And

794
00:31:49,000 --> 00:31:51,840
Speaker 3: it's just yeah, So it's a tricky situation.

795
00:31:51,600 --> 00:31:54,120
Speaker 1: And I bet a lot of very powerful people come through.

796
00:31:54,160 --> 00:31:55,640
Speaker 1: And even if you did have the proof and you

797
00:31:55,680 --> 00:31:56,880
Speaker 1: did want to talk about it.

798
00:31:56,760 --> 00:31:58,080
Speaker 2: That's a scary place to be.

799
00:31:58,600 --> 00:31:59,280
Speaker 3: Yeah, for sure.

800
00:31:59,360 --> 00:32:02,760
Speaker 1: I meant, Yeah, are you guys getting any pushback or

801
00:32:02,800 --> 00:32:03,960
Speaker 1: flack about your podcast?

802
00:32:04,040 --> 00:32:04,240
Speaker 3: Now?

803
00:32:04,720 --> 00:32:06,040
Speaker 2: By the way, Girls Next Level?

804
00:32:06,200 --> 00:32:06,440
Speaker 4: Thanks?

805
00:32:06,480 --> 00:32:09,160
Speaker 3: Oh kay, one hundred percent. There's always haters, especially when

806
00:32:09,200 --> 00:32:12,040
Speaker 3: we talk about anything Playboy related, because there's the whole

807
00:32:12,040 --> 00:32:15,440
Speaker 3: contingent of people that you know are just so loyal to,

808
00:32:15,520 --> 00:32:17,640
Speaker 3: like Playboy in half that you can't even say he

809
00:32:17,640 --> 00:32:20,440
Speaker 3: wore a hat the wrong way or you know, you're ostracized.

810
00:32:20,680 --> 00:32:21,000
Speaker 4: Really.

811
00:32:21,240 --> 00:32:23,520
Speaker 3: Yeah, So so my situation's pretty extreme.

812
00:32:23,800 --> 00:32:25,920
Speaker 1: It seems like Playboy is kind of taking a turn though, right.

813
00:32:25,920 --> 00:32:28,600
Speaker 1: They kind of went away for a minute, Yeah, vanished completely,

814
00:32:28,640 --> 00:32:30,080
Speaker 1: and then came back and said we're going to do

815
00:32:30,080 --> 00:32:30,600
Speaker 1: this differently.

816
00:32:30,920 --> 00:32:33,520
Speaker 3: Yeah, the company itself is totally different. I think it

817
00:32:33,560 --> 00:32:36,960
Speaker 3: operates more like OnlyFans now. Oh yeah, he sold the

818
00:32:37,000 --> 00:32:39,560
Speaker 3: company do like a private equity firm, I think before

819
00:32:39,600 --> 00:32:40,520
Speaker 3: he passed.

820
00:32:40,280 --> 00:32:41,880
Speaker 1: And I guess you wouldn't be able to speak for

821
00:32:41,920 --> 00:32:44,280
Speaker 1: all of them, but people who sort of like came

822
00:32:44,360 --> 00:32:47,680
Speaker 1: up the hard way versus now there's OnlyFans. How is

823
00:32:47,800 --> 00:32:50,000
Speaker 1: how is only fans looked at by people who are

824
00:32:50,000 --> 00:32:52,280
Speaker 1: in the entertainment industry when it was much tougher.

825
00:32:52,680 --> 00:32:55,600
Speaker 3: I think there's always a snobbery in the entertainment industry

826
00:32:55,640 --> 00:32:58,480
Speaker 3: every time because each generation things get kind of easier.

827
00:32:58,600 --> 00:33:01,280
Speaker 3: Like back when I was coming up on reality TV,

828
00:33:01,440 --> 00:33:04,520
Speaker 3: like traditional celebrities like hate the reality TV people. Yeah,

829
00:33:04,560 --> 00:33:07,440
Speaker 3: and now traditional celebrities and reality TV people are like, oh,

830
00:33:07,600 --> 00:33:10,120
Speaker 3: the TikTokers. You know, it's just it's always it's the.

831
00:33:10,080 --> 00:33:11,520
Speaker 2: Same radio or podcast.

832
00:33:11,800 --> 00:33:13,440
Speaker 3: Yeah, totally, it's funny.

833
00:33:13,600 --> 00:33:15,720
Speaker 1: I think it's I mean, as far as podcasting and

834
00:33:15,840 --> 00:33:18,680
Speaker 1: radio goes, I love that everybody can have a podcast

835
00:33:18,680 --> 00:33:20,560
Speaker 1: because I think that that just makes it more competitive

836
00:33:20,960 --> 00:33:23,400
Speaker 1: and still the cream of the crop will rise to

837
00:33:23,440 --> 00:33:25,960
Speaker 1: the top at some point, and I like it. I

838
00:33:25,960 --> 00:33:28,560
Speaker 1: think there should always be healthy competition and keep people

839
00:33:28,600 --> 00:33:30,480
Speaker 1: on their toes because you know how it goes when

840
00:33:30,520 --> 00:33:32,840
Speaker 1: people just have that heritage and they run with it,

841
00:33:32,880 --> 00:33:35,680
Speaker 1: and then they become complacent and we're looking around thinking,

842
00:33:35,720 --> 00:33:36,200
Speaker 1: this is it.

843
00:33:36,320 --> 00:33:38,680
Speaker 2: This is the entertainment industry. It can be better than this.

844
00:33:38,920 --> 00:33:40,800
Speaker 3: It gets rid of a lot of the gatekeepers too.

845
00:33:41,080 --> 00:33:43,280
Speaker 3: You know, a lot of toxicity can come with gatekeeping.

846
00:33:43,440 --> 00:33:44,080
Speaker 3: So it's good.

847
00:33:44,440 --> 00:33:46,920
Speaker 1: What are some of the highlights of the podcast, Things

848
00:33:46,960 --> 00:33:48,400
Speaker 1: that you guys have gotten into you because you have

849
00:33:48,400 --> 00:33:49,840
Speaker 1: guests on as well, right.

850
00:33:49,720 --> 00:33:50,120
Speaker 2: We do.

851
00:33:50,720 --> 00:33:52,920
Speaker 3: We talk to a lot of playmates and other girls

852
00:33:52,920 --> 00:33:54,440
Speaker 3: who were there at the time. We talked to one

853
00:33:54,440 --> 00:33:57,760
Speaker 3: of half Suns, which was a really interesting interview. And

854
00:33:57,840 --> 00:33:59,360
Speaker 3: every week it's something different.

855
00:33:59,480 --> 00:34:03,760
Speaker 1: It's so and it's you guys are consistent weekly every Monday.

856
00:34:03,800 --> 00:34:05,320
Speaker 2: Yeah, fifty two episodes in the.

857
00:34:05,360 --> 00:34:08,160
Speaker 3: Year forty eight. We take a couple of weeks off,

858
00:34:08,200 --> 00:34:10,160
Speaker 3: like the slow weeks, like the Memorial.

859
00:34:09,840 --> 00:34:10,760
Speaker 2: Day, as you should.

860
00:34:10,920 --> 00:34:13,880
Speaker 1: Yeah, people need vacation and break times. So coming up

861
00:34:13,880 --> 00:34:15,960
Speaker 1: on the podcast. Anything you would like to promote on

862
00:34:16,000 --> 00:34:17,480
Speaker 1: this podcast, Let's plug it.

863
00:34:17,760 --> 00:34:20,200
Speaker 3: Oh my gosh, I'm so I do all the editing

864
00:34:20,280 --> 00:34:21,960
Speaker 3: and everything too, so I'm like, what did I even

865
00:34:22,080 --> 00:34:25,960
Speaker 3: just upload? We are going over episodes right now. We

866
00:34:26,080 --> 00:34:29,160
Speaker 3: just finished an episode where it was a baby shower

867
00:34:29,239 --> 00:34:31,520
Speaker 3: episode and we were talking about that, and then we're

868
00:34:31,520 --> 00:34:33,960
Speaker 3: doing like a twenty first birthday episode, and then we

869
00:34:34,000 --> 00:34:35,839
Speaker 3: have a playmate coming on right after that who has

870
00:34:35,880 --> 00:34:38,640
Speaker 3: a lot of really funny, interesting stories that I never heard.

871
00:34:39,080 --> 00:34:41,080
Speaker 3: So I'm excited about all the stuff coming up.

872
00:34:41,120 --> 00:34:44,160
Speaker 1: So I watched Curby Your Enthusiasm and I just started

873
00:34:44,200 --> 00:34:45,759
Speaker 1: it over again and I saw you guys in one

874
00:34:45,800 --> 00:34:47,560
Speaker 1: of the earlier episodes, and I was like, oh, Holly,

875
00:34:47,880 --> 00:34:50,640
Speaker 1: how is it splintering off into these other things all

876
00:34:50,680 --> 00:34:53,160
Speaker 1: from this one venture that you were doing. You know,

877
00:34:53,160 --> 00:34:54,200
Speaker 1: like when they come to you and say, hey, do

878
00:34:54,239 --> 00:34:55,839
Speaker 1: you guys want to be on Curb your enthusiasm.

879
00:34:56,239 --> 00:34:57,080
Speaker 2: How does that work?

880
00:34:57,400 --> 00:34:59,360
Speaker 3: It was really cool because Heff would be asked to

881
00:34:59,400 --> 00:35:02,640
Speaker 3: do cameo and certain things, and oftentimes he would want

882
00:35:02,680 --> 00:35:05,760
Speaker 3: like some playmates or his girlfriends around him. So sometimes

883
00:35:05,840 --> 00:35:07,560
Speaker 3: we'd be lucky enough to be written into that, like

884
00:35:07,560 --> 00:35:10,560
Speaker 3: we did Entourage back then too, or doing a Carl's

885
00:35:10,640 --> 00:35:13,560
Speaker 3: Junior commercial with Half stuff like that. So that was fun,

886
00:35:13,600 --> 00:35:16,000
Speaker 3: and it was always a very quick process. It wasn't

887
00:35:16,040 --> 00:35:17,719
Speaker 3: like you get there at five am to do hair

888
00:35:17,760 --> 00:35:19,400
Speaker 3: and makeup and you're there all day. It was like

889
00:35:19,480 --> 00:35:22,719
Speaker 3: Hef only wanted to work for like ten minutes, so

890
00:35:22,800 --> 00:35:25,200
Speaker 3: everything was set up and we would show up downstairs

891
00:35:25,239 --> 00:35:27,880
Speaker 3: in like a half hour total to shoot the whole thing.

892
00:35:28,120 --> 00:35:30,960
Speaker 3: And I remember in between takes, I was trying to

893
00:35:31,000 --> 00:35:33,279
Speaker 3: talk to Larry David and I was so confused because

894
00:35:33,280 --> 00:35:35,319
Speaker 3: I didn't he stayed in character the whole time.

895
00:35:35,680 --> 00:35:36,759
Speaker 4: Really, I was trying to talk to.

896
00:35:36,800 --> 00:35:38,960
Speaker 3: Him like he was him, and he was staying a character,

897
00:35:39,000 --> 00:35:41,920
Speaker 3: and I forget what he said, but like something wasn't computing.

898
00:35:41,960 --> 00:35:43,719
Speaker 3: I was like, well, it was some like kind of

899
00:35:43,760 --> 00:35:46,120
Speaker 3: practical question like oh, where do you go for lunch?

900
00:35:45,800 --> 00:35:48,000
Speaker 3: Or so I don't remember what it was at all,

901
00:35:48,200 --> 00:35:50,600
Speaker 3: but it was something that his answer didn't make sense

902
00:35:50,680 --> 00:35:52,640
Speaker 3: to me. And I think it's because he was his

903
00:35:52,760 --> 00:35:55,520
Speaker 3: character though, like he wasn't like the real the real him.

904
00:35:55,680 --> 00:35:56,480
Speaker 2: That's very awkward.

905
00:35:56,760 --> 00:35:58,800
Speaker 3: I know. I'm kind of always awkward though, So it

906
00:35:58,880 --> 00:35:59,800
Speaker 3: wasn't It wasn't.

907
00:35:59,600 --> 00:36:02,160
Speaker 1: Too far, I will tell you so, based on all

908
00:36:02,160 --> 00:36:03,560
Speaker 1: the stuff that I was reading about you and the

909
00:36:03,560 --> 00:36:05,879
Speaker 1: research that I was trying to do, I thought, Okay,

910
00:36:05,920 --> 00:36:06,600
Speaker 1: she might be kind of.

911
00:36:06,600 --> 00:36:09,440
Speaker 2: Shy, a little quiet, maybe a little awkward. And I

912
00:36:09,440 --> 00:36:10,960
Speaker 2: don't feel like you've been that at all. I think

913
00:36:10,960 --> 00:36:11,800
Speaker 2: it's been wonderful.

914
00:36:12,000 --> 00:36:13,319
Speaker 3: Yeah, that makes me feel good. Thank you.

915
00:36:13,440 --> 00:36:15,200
Speaker 1: Yeah, you have nothing to be nervous about or shy

916
00:36:15,239 --> 00:36:17,399
Speaker 1: about that. But this has been great And I think

917
00:36:17,400 --> 00:36:21,680
Speaker 1: it's very eye opening seeing the darker side of or

918
00:36:21,719 --> 00:36:23,719
Speaker 1: at least hearing some of the darker side of things

919
00:36:23,719 --> 00:36:26,520
Speaker 1: that used to look so glittery and amazing. And I

920
00:36:26,560 --> 00:36:29,160
Speaker 1: also read, and I think this is important. You wouldn't

921
00:36:29,239 --> 00:36:31,479
Speaker 1: change anything. You just wouldn't do it again.

922
00:36:31,840 --> 00:36:34,160
Speaker 3: Yeah, that's the perfect way to put it. People always

923
00:36:34,160 --> 00:36:36,200
Speaker 3: ask like, would you do it again? And I don't

924
00:36:36,200 --> 00:36:37,839
Speaker 3: really know what they mean by that, Like do they

925
00:36:37,880 --> 00:36:40,080
Speaker 3: mean would I change it in hindsight, or do I

926
00:36:40,120 --> 00:36:41,960
Speaker 3: have to go do it. If I had to go

927
00:36:42,000 --> 00:36:43,360
Speaker 3: do it, I wouldn't do it just because like the

928
00:36:43,400 --> 00:36:45,360
Speaker 3: first three or four years there before we had the

929
00:36:45,400 --> 00:36:49,400
Speaker 3: TV show were so bad, like I can't I wouldn't

930
00:36:49,480 --> 00:36:51,520
Speaker 3: last there now because I would actually speak up for

931
00:36:51,560 --> 00:36:54,560
Speaker 3: myself and get kicked out. Probably what was so bad

932
00:36:54,600 --> 00:36:57,400
Speaker 3: about it, it was the dynamic between the other women.

933
00:36:57,640 --> 00:37:00,760
Speaker 3: It was feeling kind of trapped and I had nowhere

934
00:37:00,760 --> 00:37:03,319
Speaker 3: to go and being really scared of being thrown out

935
00:37:03,360 --> 00:37:06,799
Speaker 3: all the time. I didn't like the bedroom part of it.

936
00:37:06,840 --> 00:37:09,719
Speaker 3: I didn't like going out. I was always every time

937
00:37:09,719 --> 00:37:11,680
Speaker 3: we went out, I got super super drunk just to

938
00:37:11,719 --> 00:37:14,799
Speaker 3: cope with it. And there wasn't like when I thought

939
00:37:14,840 --> 00:37:16,440
Speaker 3: I moved in, I had a vision of what it

940
00:37:16,440 --> 00:37:18,719
Speaker 3: would be like and it turned out not to be

941
00:37:18,840 --> 00:37:21,239
Speaker 3: that way. And when the show came along and when

942
00:37:21,239 --> 00:37:24,520
Speaker 3: the cast of girls changed, it got a lot more positive.

943
00:37:24,920 --> 00:37:27,040
Speaker 3: That's those first three or four years were a nightmare,

944
00:37:27,239 --> 00:37:29,440
Speaker 3: just a lot of shame and embarrassment. And how like

945
00:37:29,480 --> 00:37:31,520
Speaker 3: other people would react to me when they knew where

946
00:37:31,520 --> 00:37:34,880
Speaker 3: I lived, I just I would just would just was

947
00:37:34,920 --> 00:37:38,239
Speaker 3: like way too young and not developed enough to deal

948
00:37:38,280 --> 00:37:39,360
Speaker 3: with that kind of pressure.

949
00:37:39,719 --> 00:37:42,239
Speaker 1: What are the requirement What were the requirements I guess

950
00:37:42,320 --> 00:37:45,520
Speaker 1: to even live in the house, Like what differentiated somebody

951
00:37:45,560 --> 00:37:48,520
Speaker 1: from just being a playmate to being a resident?

952
00:37:49,640 --> 00:37:52,279
Speaker 3: If you well, playmates could stay at the house sometimes too,

953
00:37:52,320 --> 00:37:54,320
Speaker 3: if for whatever reason, if they were a guest, or

954
00:37:54,360 --> 00:37:57,560
Speaker 3: if they needed somewhere to stay and they were friends

955
00:37:57,600 --> 00:38:00,880
Speaker 3: with us or something. But to live there full time,

956
00:38:00,960 --> 00:38:03,600
Speaker 3: it meant you were one of his girlfriends and you

957
00:38:03,719 --> 00:38:07,600
Speaker 3: had to completely kind of be there for his schedule,

958
00:38:08,080 --> 00:38:10,719
Speaker 3: whether it was you know, the dinners and movie at night,

959
00:38:11,000 --> 00:38:13,680
Speaker 3: or going out a couple times a week and you

960
00:38:13,680 --> 00:38:17,960
Speaker 3: know the bedroom thing, and you had a nine o'clock curfew.

961
00:38:18,480 --> 00:38:20,319
Speaker 3: You weren't allowed to work. Every once in a while,

962
00:38:20,400 --> 00:38:22,080
Speaker 3: he'd let some girl have a job if he thought

963
00:38:22,080 --> 00:38:24,200
Speaker 3: it wasn't threatening, Like if she was a receptionist at

964
00:38:24,239 --> 00:38:26,840
Speaker 3: a plastic surgeon's office and getting free plastic surgery. He

965
00:38:26,880 --> 00:38:29,000
Speaker 3: thought that was okay. But like, I couldn't be a waitress.

966
00:38:29,000 --> 00:38:31,000
Speaker 3: I couldn't keep my waitressing jobs. That made him jealous.

967
00:38:31,040 --> 00:38:33,480
Speaker 3: It was so weird. It was yeah, it was strange.

968
00:38:33,520 --> 00:38:35,719
Speaker 3: It was hard to kind of like once I got there,

969
00:38:35,719 --> 00:38:38,040
Speaker 3: and realized I didn't like it. It was hard for

970
00:38:38,120 --> 00:38:39,960
Speaker 3: me to kind of get back on my feet and

971
00:38:40,000 --> 00:38:42,760
Speaker 3: put a plan together for myself because I wasn't allowed

972
00:38:42,760 --> 00:38:44,759
Speaker 3: to work and my schedule was so filled up with

973
00:38:44,840 --> 00:38:46,759
Speaker 3: just the basic requirements of what it was like to

974
00:38:46,760 --> 00:38:47,120
Speaker 3: be there.

975
00:38:47,200 --> 00:38:50,040
Speaker 1: So the hypocrisy of him having seven girlfriends and then

976
00:38:50,160 --> 00:38:51,399
Speaker 1: also being jealous.

977
00:38:51,200 --> 00:38:52,920
Speaker 3: I know I can't looking back on it.

978
00:38:52,960 --> 00:38:53,319
Speaker 2: That is.

979
00:38:54,760 --> 00:38:57,120
Speaker 1: When you say the bedroom stuff, are you talking specifically

980
00:38:57,120 --> 00:38:59,600
Speaker 1: about the sex life? Okay, yeah, I would imagine that

981
00:38:59,640 --> 00:39:01,320
Speaker 1: being different cult, But you have a lot of stuff

982
00:39:01,320 --> 00:39:02,719
Speaker 1: going on and I'm excited to see it. So if

983
00:39:02,760 --> 00:39:04,759
Speaker 1: people want to find Lethally Blonde, where are they going

984
00:39:04,800 --> 00:39:05,320
Speaker 1: to find it?

985
00:39:05,320 --> 00:39:08,080
Speaker 3: It's on ID premieres on Monday the twenty fifth at

986
00:39:08,120 --> 00:39:11,719
Speaker 3: ten ninth Central. After that it streams on Max and

987
00:39:11,960 --> 00:39:15,400
Speaker 3: Hulu and Discovery Plus, and then Girls Next Level drops

988
00:39:15,400 --> 00:39:16,160
Speaker 3: every Monday as.

989
00:39:16,040 --> 00:39:20,120
Speaker 1: Well every Monday, and the Playboy Murders if people want

990
00:39:20,160 --> 00:39:20,880
Speaker 1: to go back and watch that.

991
00:39:21,000 --> 00:39:25,520
Speaker 3: Yeah, Playboy Murders is on Max, Hulu and Discovery Plus.

992
00:39:25,640 --> 00:39:27,839
Speaker 2: You kind of haven't stopped, You've just been going and going.

993
00:39:27,960 --> 00:39:28,759
Speaker 3: Yeah, it's been fun.

994
00:39:29,120 --> 00:39:31,880
Speaker 1: Well, thank you so much for joining. I appreciate it.

995
00:39:31,960 --> 00:39:33,800
Speaker 1: I think that you're wonderful and I'm very excited to

996
00:39:33,800 --> 00:39:34,640
Speaker 1: see all of these things.

997
00:39:34,640 --> 00:39:36,200
Speaker 3: Thank you. You are too, And I'm obsessed with your

998
00:39:36,280 --> 00:39:37,160
Speaker 3: nutella bottle.

999
00:39:37,280 --> 00:39:37,839
Speaker 2: Oh my gosh.

1000
00:39:37,840 --> 00:39:40,000
Speaker 3: I kept like looking glancing over it during the interview.

1001
00:39:40,120 --> 00:39:42,279
Speaker 2: This is like the most okay, So I don't even

1002
00:39:42,280 --> 00:39:42,840
Speaker 2: eat nutella.

1003
00:39:42,960 --> 00:39:43,200
Speaker 3: Uh huh.

1004
00:39:43,200 --> 00:39:45,279
Speaker 1: I would like you to know that they sent this

1005
00:39:45,520 --> 00:39:48,080
Speaker 1: massive bottle over and the first time they spelled my

1006
00:39:48,160 --> 00:39:49,800
Speaker 1: name incorrectly, so I just left it. I was like,

1007
00:39:49,800 --> 00:39:51,400
Speaker 1: I don't want to I'm not going that's not for me.

1008
00:39:51,440 --> 00:39:53,399
Speaker 1: That's not spelled right. So then they sent it over

1009
00:39:53,440 --> 00:39:55,160
Speaker 1: with my name spelled correctly. But since I don't need

1010
00:39:55,200 --> 00:39:55,960
Speaker 1: it, it just sits here.

1011
00:39:56,280 --> 00:39:57,200
Speaker 3: It's so cute.

1012
00:39:57,280 --> 00:39:59,759
Speaker 1: It has become such a topic of conversation. Yeah, but

1013
00:39:59,840 --> 00:40:01,640
Speaker 1: I I feel like it frames me, Like I just

1014
00:40:01,640 --> 00:40:03,879
Speaker 1: sit here and just shovel Nutell it down my throat.

1015
00:40:03,960 --> 00:40:05,720
Speaker 3: Oh. I thought you must have been a Nutell Omega

1016
00:40:05,719 --> 00:40:07,120
Speaker 3: fan and talk about it all the time, and so

1017
00:40:07,160 --> 00:40:07,759
Speaker 3: they send it over.

1018
00:40:07,960 --> 00:40:10,960
Speaker 1: I am not it's just here, but I might have

1019
00:40:10,960 --> 00:40:12,759
Speaker 1: to leave it because it is a topic of conversation.

1020
00:40:13,760 --> 00:40:16,239
Speaker 2: Well, thank you and thank you for joining me. I

1021
00:40:16,280 --> 00:40:29,040
Speaker 2: appreciate it. Okay, Divend, how did you think that went?

1022
00:40:29,239 --> 00:40:30,479
Speaker 4: I loved it.

1023
00:40:30,719 --> 00:40:31,520
Speaker 2: I think I love her.

1024
00:40:32,239 --> 00:40:35,000
Speaker 4: I didn't think that I was gonna like fall deeper

1025
00:40:35,040 --> 00:40:40,080
Speaker 4: in love Holly. But she's really nice. Number one. She

1026
00:40:41,280 --> 00:40:46,040
Speaker 4: really was like engaging in conversation and I'm into it,

1027
00:40:46,280 --> 00:40:47,160
Speaker 4: and she gave us the tea.

1028
00:40:47,239 --> 00:40:49,480
Speaker 1: I thought she was wonderful. I thought she was, like

1029
00:40:49,520 --> 00:40:51,480
Speaker 1: you said, engaging, intelligent.

1030
00:40:51,960 --> 00:40:52,919
Speaker 2: She has a lot to say.

1031
00:40:53,080 --> 00:40:57,200
Speaker 1: She's probably lived like six lifetimes, very gracious, very beautiful.

1032
00:40:57,719 --> 00:40:59,239
Speaker 2: Do you think I left anything on the table, any

1033
00:40:59,280 --> 00:41:00,160
Speaker 2: questions you want to answ.

1034
00:41:00,560 --> 00:41:02,200
Speaker 4: I kind of want to know what's going on with Kendra,

1035
00:41:02,360 --> 00:41:03,920
Speaker 4: but I'll leave that up to Google.

1036
00:41:04,080 --> 00:41:05,680
Speaker 1: And you know what, I bet at some point on

1037
00:41:05,680 --> 00:41:08,000
Speaker 1: her own podcast and when they are all ready to

1038
00:41:08,040 --> 00:41:10,120
Speaker 1: talk about if something is going on, whatever's going on,

1039
00:41:10,360 --> 00:41:11,520
Speaker 1: you'll probably get it over there.

1040
00:41:11,920 --> 00:41:13,880
Speaker 2: I'm dead ass serious. Though we talked about this in

1041
00:41:13,920 --> 00:41:14,480
Speaker 2: the interview.

1042
00:41:14,719 --> 00:41:17,040
Speaker 1: I think it's kind of cool and also horrific that

1043
00:41:17,080 --> 00:41:20,279
Speaker 1: everybody has a podcast. I kind of wish that they

1044
00:41:20,280 --> 00:41:24,160
Speaker 1: would make microphones more expensive so that every asshole.

1045
00:41:23,719 --> 00:41:26,000
Speaker 2: In their mom's basement couldn't.

1046
00:41:25,680 --> 00:41:28,359
Speaker 1: Be talking about, well, you know what, women like they

1047
00:41:28,480 --> 00:41:31,040
Speaker 1: love to be treated like dogs. Trust me, bro from

1048
00:41:31,040 --> 00:41:33,880
Speaker 1: a room full of single idiots. Yeah, I don't love that,

1049
00:41:34,040 --> 00:41:35,400
Speaker 1: but I do like the competition.

1050
00:41:35,920 --> 00:41:37,200
Speaker 4: Ooh not competition.

1051
00:41:37,520 --> 00:41:40,640
Speaker 2: Yeah wow, I told you about the job here. I said.

1052
00:41:40,719 --> 00:41:43,720
Speaker 1: I believe every year we should have a little Hunger

1053
00:41:43,760 --> 00:41:45,759
Speaker 1: Games thing going on where if you think, because you know,

1054
00:41:45,760 --> 00:41:47,600
Speaker 1: people love to tell us how to do our job,

1055
00:41:48,080 --> 00:41:49,480
Speaker 1: they love to tell us what we're not doing.

1056
00:41:49,560 --> 00:41:49,759
Speaker 4: Right.

1057
00:41:50,440 --> 00:41:52,960
Speaker 1: I want to have people come in and we compete

1058
00:41:52,960 --> 00:41:55,080
Speaker 1: for the job once a year, and if you're better

1059
00:41:55,120 --> 00:41:57,839
Speaker 1: than me, you get the job, and if you're not,

1060
00:41:58,280 --> 00:42:00,400
Speaker 1: you permanently shut the fuck up and let me do

1061
00:42:00,440 --> 00:42:00,919
Speaker 1: what I'm doing.

1062
00:42:01,120 --> 00:42:04,560
Speaker 4: Wait a second, can we talk about this on another Yeah?

1063
00:42:04,719 --> 00:42:06,640
Speaker 2: Sure, because you.

1064
00:42:06,680 --> 00:42:07,680
Speaker 4: Are a lutic.

1065
00:42:07,960 --> 00:42:08,840
Speaker 2: How's that alyttic?

1066
00:42:08,880 --> 00:42:11,719
Speaker 4: I mean, I get it, But no Hunger Games things

1067
00:42:11,760 --> 00:42:13,480
Speaker 4: coming out of me. Athletes do it.

1068
00:42:13,560 --> 00:42:14,959
Speaker 2: Athletes have to keep their job.

1069
00:42:15,040 --> 00:42:16,799
Speaker 1: You have to prove that you are up to par,

1070
00:42:17,239 --> 00:42:19,280
Speaker 1: that you can still hang in there and do things.

1071
00:42:19,440 --> 00:42:22,279
Speaker 1: And all these little like Monday morning quarterbacks, which I

1072
00:42:22,280 --> 00:42:24,439
Speaker 1: guess you can't even say Monday morning anymore because they.

1073
00:42:24,320 --> 00:42:25,400
Speaker 2: Still have football on Mondays.

1074
00:42:25,520 --> 00:42:28,000
Speaker 1: Yeah, but all these quarterbacks and like you know, backseat

1075
00:42:28,080 --> 00:42:29,160
Speaker 1: drivers and whatever it is.

1076
00:42:29,480 --> 00:42:33,280
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's cool. Come on, and we're not recording. Sure, yeah, hi, wow,

1077
00:42:34,040 --> 00:42:37,880
Speaker 2: we are still recording. That's Andrew.

1078
00:42:37,880 --> 00:42:40,000
Speaker 1: Everybody, go ahead, pull up to now, pull your ass

1079
00:42:40,040 --> 00:42:43,600
Speaker 1: up to a microphone. Now, come on, turn a micro here,

1080
00:42:43,600 --> 00:42:44,279
Speaker 1: I'll turn the mic on.

1081
00:42:44,400 --> 00:42:47,440
Speaker 2: You sit down. No, don't, don't, don't give up. Oh

1082
00:42:47,440 --> 00:42:48,160
Speaker 2: you're gonna go over there.

1083
00:42:48,280 --> 00:42:50,920
Speaker 5: I accidentally shut the recording.

1084
00:42:50,520 --> 00:42:54,560
Speaker 2: Off of the screen. That's okay. We don't use that anyway.

1085
00:42:54,960 --> 00:42:55,120
Speaker 4: Oh.

1086
00:42:55,239 --> 00:42:57,200
Speaker 1: Fun fact. If you are listening, yeah, that's the one.

1087
00:42:57,280 --> 00:42:59,879
Speaker 1: Put it hit the green Yeah, fun fact. Get hold

1088
00:42:59,880 --> 00:43:02,440
Speaker 1: on that microphone. Oh my god, Andrew learned.

1089
00:43:02,200 --> 00:43:04,839
Speaker 2: Something about radio this guy. And I know everyone's hearing

1090
00:43:04,840 --> 00:43:05,200
Speaker 2: this too.

1091
00:43:06,320 --> 00:43:08,759
Speaker 5: Yeah, it's also a podcast, not radio. But go off.

1092
00:43:09,000 --> 00:43:10,960
Speaker 2: Uh huh. We're in a radio studio. Can I help

1093
00:43:10,960 --> 00:43:11,440
Speaker 2: you with something?

1094
00:43:11,520 --> 00:43:12,080
Speaker 4: Oh?

1095
00:43:12,200 --> 00:43:13,360
Speaker 2: What were we even talking about?

1096
00:43:13,560 --> 00:43:16,120
Speaker 4: I don't remember all the holiday things? You would be out?

1097
00:43:16,239 --> 00:43:19,439
Speaker 1: I said, I believe that everybody should have to fight

1098
00:43:19,480 --> 00:43:22,200
Speaker 1: for their title to remain in whichever position they're in.

1099
00:43:22,320 --> 00:43:26,440
Speaker 5: Okay, listen, I agree with you entirely. I think people

1100
00:43:26,480 --> 00:43:29,680
Speaker 5: who comment on medical things, especially well, do you think

1101
00:43:29,719 --> 00:43:33,280
Speaker 5: you have this? I think you're actually suffering from this. Actually,

1102
00:43:33,280 --> 00:43:35,280
Speaker 5: what you need to know is this, No, we don't.

1103
00:43:35,600 --> 00:43:37,000
Speaker 5: You don't know what you're talking about. Where'd you get

1104
00:43:37,000 --> 00:43:39,839
Speaker 5: your medical degree from? Chances are you don't have one?

1105
00:43:40,120 --> 00:43:41,719
Speaker 2: You two university.

1106
00:43:41,960 --> 00:43:43,080
Speaker 5: I was thinking more web MD.

1107
00:43:43,440 --> 00:43:45,399
Speaker 1: I just I mean, I'd be down for I think

1108
00:43:45,400 --> 00:43:47,680
Speaker 1: it's important. I was saying athletes have to do it. Yeah,

1109
00:43:47,760 --> 00:43:50,439
Speaker 1: firefighters and cops have to keep up with things. Why

1110
00:43:50,480 --> 00:43:51,479
Speaker 1: is it any different here?

1111
00:43:51,680 --> 00:43:54,040
Speaker 5: Well, so this is actually an interesting point that you

1112
00:43:54,040 --> 00:43:56,480
Speaker 5: bring up because I was watching CBS Sunday morning, and

1113
00:43:56,600 --> 00:43:59,880
Speaker 5: obviously all as millennials, I feel we all share some

1114
00:44:00,080 --> 00:44:02,920
Speaker 5: thing now where we feel the workforce is not moving on.

1115
00:44:03,160 --> 00:44:06,600
Speaker 5: Jobs are stagnating because people in who are older are

1116
00:44:06,640 --> 00:44:09,160
Speaker 5: not retiring the same, so it's clogging up. Then it's

1117
00:44:09,200 --> 00:44:14,280
Speaker 5: expensive exactly. But they're also saying millennials and gen zers

1118
00:44:14,320 --> 00:44:17,960
Speaker 5: are saying, oh, you know, they should take competency tests whatever.

1119
00:44:18,360 --> 00:44:21,480
Speaker 5: A lot of professions actually do do that, pilots especially. Yeah,

1120
00:44:21,520 --> 00:44:23,279
Speaker 5: but they actually noticed that a lot of people who

1121
00:44:23,280 --> 00:44:26,279
Speaker 5: are seventy five ish eighty ish, if you're passing these

1122
00:44:26,280 --> 00:44:29,719
Speaker 5: competency tests, which a lot of pilots are, they're mandatory,

1123
00:44:29,840 --> 00:44:32,440
Speaker 5: you cannot fly. But they can because the test says

1124
00:44:32,480 --> 00:44:34,759
Speaker 5: they still should. So I don't know. Just made me

1125
00:44:34,800 --> 00:44:36,840
Speaker 5: think about things where I was kind of like, we

1126
00:44:36,920 --> 00:44:38,719
Speaker 5: got to get all these older people out, but then

1127
00:44:38,760 --> 00:44:41,440
Speaker 5: you find out, no, they don't. They should still have jobs.

1128
00:44:41,680 --> 00:44:44,319
Speaker 2: Yeah, I think it should be a competency.

1129
00:44:43,800 --> 00:44:45,479
Speaker 5: Kists are necessary.

1130
00:44:45,560 --> 00:44:49,320
Speaker 1: Yes, competency tests are important. I think specifically with politicians.

1131
00:44:49,320 --> 00:44:50,640
Speaker 1: I really wish that we were checking out what was

1132
00:44:50,680 --> 00:44:52,400
Speaker 1: going on with them. Why are you making that Faceimon?

1133
00:44:52,520 --> 00:44:55,439
Speaker 4: That was given very ageus. Okay, renee rap, you gotta

1134
00:44:55,480 --> 00:44:56,040
Speaker 4: slow it down.

1135
00:44:56,320 --> 00:44:58,600
Speaker 2: Are a super agents. There's a lot of ageism around

1136
00:44:58,600 --> 00:44:58,920
Speaker 2: the building.

1137
00:44:58,960 --> 00:44:59,399
Speaker 4: Yeah're sure.

1138
00:44:59,400 --> 00:45:02,200
Speaker 5: I don't discu but after I saw that, and you

1139
00:45:02,280 --> 00:45:04,720
Speaker 5: really see like, oh this is a problem, it's actually

1140
00:45:04,719 --> 00:45:07,040
Speaker 5: not a problem. And to Gandhi's point, they need to

1141
00:45:07,040 --> 00:45:10,719
Speaker 5: still make a living. So if you're mentally capable and

1142
00:45:11,080 --> 00:45:13,520
Speaker 5: you need the money, then please continue to work. That's

1143
00:45:13,520 --> 00:45:15,879
Speaker 5: why there's such a pilot shortage because we keep retiring them,

1144
00:45:16,160 --> 00:45:18,000
Speaker 5: but there's no younger pilots coming up.

1145
00:45:18,320 --> 00:45:20,560
Speaker 2: If you can do your job, do your job. If

1146
00:45:20,600 --> 00:45:22,160
Speaker 2: you cannot do your job, stop doing.

1147
00:45:22,320 --> 00:45:23,680
Speaker 5: I agree, and I don't think it's.

1148
00:45:23,600 --> 00:45:26,640
Speaker 2: Not rocket science. It's really not that difficult. It's super easy.

1149
00:45:26,840 --> 00:45:29,000
Speaker 2: I always get irritated because a lot of people.

1150
00:45:28,719 --> 00:45:30,640
Speaker 1: Around here that are like, oh my god, they've been

1151
00:45:30,680 --> 00:45:32,600
Speaker 1: here for so long, they just don't know what they're

1152
00:45:32,600 --> 00:45:33,640
Speaker 1: doing anymore, and blah blah blah.

1153
00:45:33,680 --> 00:45:34,920
Speaker 2: And I think a lot of the times the people that.

1154
00:45:34,920 --> 00:45:37,040
Speaker 1: Are saying that also don't know what they're doing. They

1155
00:45:37,120 --> 00:45:39,160
Speaker 1: don't like how the system is, and I get that,

1156
00:45:39,719 --> 00:45:41,040
Speaker 1: but I don't think that they know how to fix

1157
00:45:41,080 --> 00:45:42,680
Speaker 1: it or do it any better. And I think a

1158
00:45:42,719 --> 00:45:45,760
Speaker 1: lot of that. A lot of people around here are ageist. Listen,

1159
00:45:46,160 --> 00:45:48,480
Speaker 1: Andrew's like, oh my god, they're like forty. I'm like,

1160
00:45:48,520 --> 00:45:49,480
Speaker 1: you watch your fucking mouth.

1161
00:45:49,719 --> 00:45:51,640
Speaker 2: That one. I own up to it. We're all real

1162
00:45:51,719 --> 00:45:53,320
Speaker 2: close to this, okay, including you, buddy.

1163
00:45:53,520 --> 00:45:56,640
Speaker 5: I own up to it entirely. And I'm also saying

1164
00:45:56,680 --> 00:45:59,680
Speaker 5: that I've learned that that is not necessarily the case.

1165
00:45:59,719 --> 00:46:03,080
Speaker 5: So I am exposing myself and canceling myself, but also

1166
00:46:03,120 --> 00:46:05,480
Speaker 5: putting up my notes ap apology on my Instagram.

1167
00:46:05,680 --> 00:46:08,960
Speaker 4: Oh one, alrighty, here we go.

1168
00:46:09,160 --> 00:46:10,680
Speaker 2: Yes, I mean we all see it right.

1169
00:46:10,719 --> 00:46:12,359
Speaker 1: A lot of especially you know, like the people who

1170
00:46:12,360 --> 00:46:15,120
Speaker 1: are rolling in in maybe like early twenties, they think

1171
00:46:15,160 --> 00:46:17,920
Speaker 1: everything is broken and everything is wrong, when the reality

1172
00:46:18,000 --> 00:46:19,719
Speaker 1: is a lot of what they're doing is broken and

1173
00:46:19,719 --> 00:46:22,160
Speaker 1: wrong and we've already tried it, but you don't know

1174
00:46:22,200 --> 00:46:24,839
Speaker 1: that because you haven't been here to realize that it's

1175
00:46:24,840 --> 00:46:27,520
Speaker 1: been tried and tested and it failed already. So it's like,

1176
00:46:27,560 --> 00:46:29,879
Speaker 1: I think everyone just needs to work together and have

1177
00:46:30,040 --> 00:46:33,240
Speaker 1: conversations and idea sharing and not be so close minded

1178
00:46:33,280 --> 00:46:35,480
Speaker 1: and think, Okay, there's a chits, I'm doing it wrong.

1179
00:46:36,040 --> 00:46:38,160
Speaker 1: Maybe I could hear what you're saying and go in

1180
00:46:38,160 --> 00:46:40,279
Speaker 1: that direction. Anyway, we're way down the path here. I'm

1181
00:46:40,280 --> 00:46:41,959
Speaker 1: gonna have to edit the shit out of this, so.

1182
00:46:41,880 --> 00:46:43,080
Speaker 2: We do a burn book.

1183
00:46:43,520 --> 00:46:46,560
Speaker 1: I'm ready, Diamond, you had a burn book about someone's

1184
00:46:46,600 --> 00:46:47,320
Speaker 1: bathroom habits.

1185
00:46:47,840 --> 00:46:55,319
Speaker 4: Oh my god. There is a woman that we all

1186
00:46:55,360 --> 00:46:57,759
Speaker 4: know in some of us love that some of us

1187
00:46:57,800 --> 00:47:04,440
Speaker 4: don't exactly, that blows the bathroom up every single day,

1188
00:47:05,280 --> 00:47:07,800
Speaker 4: almost within the same time period every day.

1189
00:47:07,920 --> 00:47:11,160
Speaker 2: Well, at least she's consistentular I guess no.

1190
00:47:11,400 --> 00:47:14,880
Speaker 4: It surprised me. Okay, she's becoming a little bit too consistent.

1191
00:47:14,920 --> 00:47:16,920
Speaker 1: There's surprising stuff that happens in there. You know what

1192
00:47:16,920 --> 00:47:18,640
Speaker 1: happened to me when I walked in that bathroom today.

1193
00:47:18,960 --> 00:47:24,560
Speaker 4: Sickening, disgusting. It literally smells like she's rotting from the inside.

1194
00:47:25,160 --> 00:47:27,520
Speaker 4: I can't take it anymore, Andrew, That's how I feel

1195
00:47:27,560 --> 00:47:29,960
Speaker 4: every time I walk in and she's blown it up.

1196
00:47:30,000 --> 00:47:33,480
Speaker 4: And she's the type of person that clearly doesn't smell

1197
00:47:33,520 --> 00:47:35,719
Speaker 4: what comes out of her own body. She's immune to it,

1198
00:47:35,800 --> 00:47:38,960
Speaker 4: so she like wants to have conversations in the bathroom

1199
00:47:39,040 --> 00:47:42,600
Speaker 4: with people like miss I can barely breathe and you're

1200
00:47:42,600 --> 00:47:45,279
Speaker 4: trying to kill me. I can't breathe, and.

1201
00:47:45,200 --> 00:47:47,280
Speaker 2: It's you are positive it's the same person every.

1202
00:47:47,160 --> 00:47:50,520
Speaker 4: Time, every single fucking time. And you say it's loud,

1203
00:47:50,880 --> 00:47:56,400
Speaker 4: and the noises that come out of that woman, Oh,

1204
00:47:56,480 --> 00:48:01,320
Speaker 4: she like forces it out. Yes, yes, yeah, ah, consider

1205
00:48:01,360 --> 00:48:05,200
Speaker 4: yourself lucky if you've never been in there while it's happening.

1206
00:48:05,680 --> 00:48:11,240
Speaker 1: So I am very sensitive to terrible smells, specifically anything

1207
00:48:11,280 --> 00:48:14,279
Speaker 1: that has to do with poop and farts. Diamond was

1208
00:48:14,360 --> 00:48:16,880
Speaker 1: walking out of the stall as I walked into the

1209
00:48:16,920 --> 00:48:19,200
Speaker 1: bathroom today and she saw it happen.

1210
00:48:19,719 --> 00:48:22,919
Speaker 2: I was like, I had to turn around.

1211
00:48:22,960 --> 00:48:24,640
Speaker 1: I walked out of the bathroom and I stood outside

1212
00:48:24,680 --> 00:48:28,160
Speaker 1: just collecting myself, took a deep breath, ran inside, holding

1213
00:48:28,200 --> 00:48:29,680
Speaker 1: my breath, peede, wash my hands, run out.

1214
00:48:29,800 --> 00:48:30,600
Speaker 4: It's horrifying.

1215
00:48:31,000 --> 00:48:31,319
Speaker 2: Was it her?

1216
00:48:31,400 --> 00:48:33,240
Speaker 4: Absolutely? I know those shoes anywhere.

1217
00:48:34,280 --> 00:48:36,560
Speaker 5: Oh for a second, say she doesn't wear shoes.

1218
00:48:36,680 --> 00:48:37,600
Speaker 4: No, I know those shoes.

1219
00:48:38,160 --> 00:48:39,520
Speaker 5: There is the men's room.

1220
00:48:39,560 --> 00:48:39,880
Speaker 3: I don't know.

1221
00:48:39,920 --> 00:48:41,479
Speaker 5: I feel like it's just a known thing that men's

1222
00:48:41,520 --> 00:48:44,560
Speaker 5: rooms always smell bad. We have a couple of them.

1223
00:48:44,640 --> 00:48:47,759
Speaker 5: But to your extent, No, from what I've heard, it

1224
00:48:47,880 --> 00:48:51,479
Speaker 5: sounds like the women's room is bad like hell on Earth.

1225
00:48:51,640 --> 00:48:53,759
Speaker 4: But it's the same person over and over. That's the thing.

1226
00:48:54,000 --> 00:48:56,279
Speaker 5: Yeah, remember the old place where the person used to

1227
00:48:56,320 --> 00:48:58,840
Speaker 5: just like diarrhea all over. I don't know what his

1228
00:48:58,960 --> 00:49:01,359
Speaker 5: asshole was doing when it would sit on the toilet seat,

1229
00:49:01,400 --> 00:49:05,200
Speaker 5: The seas would part Moses Sis and be like who yeah,

1230
00:49:05,239 --> 00:49:07,120
Speaker 5: And then you'd walk in and be like, what happened

1231
00:49:07,160 --> 00:49:07,480
Speaker 5: to you?

1232
00:49:08,239 --> 00:49:08,600
Speaker 4: How?

1233
00:49:09,120 --> 00:49:10,640
Speaker 2: I almost threw up this morning? It was terrible.

1234
00:49:11,040 --> 00:49:12,839
Speaker 1: I turned around and walked out, and our poor, our

1235
00:49:12,920 --> 00:49:15,239
Speaker 1: lovely cleaning woman, she's new. I've hit her at the

1236
00:49:15,280 --> 00:49:18,480
Speaker 1: door four days in a row, four days in a row.

1237
00:49:18,560 --> 00:49:20,799
Speaker 1: I don't know how I time it out perfectly that

1238
00:49:20,840 --> 00:49:22,480
Speaker 1: she is right there by the door when I walk

1239
00:49:22,480 --> 00:49:24,799
Speaker 1: into the bathroom hit her in the ass four times,

1240
00:49:24,800 --> 00:49:27,160
Speaker 1: and I'm like, you know what, I can't say sorry

1241
00:49:27,160 --> 00:49:29,680
Speaker 1: to you any more times. I'm so sorry I hit

1242
00:49:29,719 --> 00:49:32,399
Speaker 1: you again, and she's kind of like, great, I need

1243
00:49:32,400 --> 00:49:36,600
Speaker 1: buy her lunch or something. Yeah, some have a backpack

1244
00:49:36,680 --> 00:49:39,520
Speaker 1: to put on to take the impact of it. But anyway,

1245
00:49:40,040 --> 00:49:42,160
Speaker 1: woman in the bathroom, Diamond burns.

1246
00:49:41,880 --> 00:49:45,839
Speaker 4: You done because you've burned all of us disgusting.

1247
00:49:46,040 --> 00:49:47,920
Speaker 2: That's our sound effect. All right? Should we do ask

1248
00:49:47,960 --> 00:49:48,360
Speaker 2: me anything?

1249
00:49:48,360 --> 00:49:53,759
Speaker 5: Sure? Read e h A Carson's eighty one says, oh.

1250
00:49:52,880 --> 00:49:54,880
Speaker 2: I, oh, that's a statement.

1251
00:49:55,280 --> 00:49:58,360
Speaker 5: Hey, gandhi. This person asks what comes after?

1252
00:49:58,480 --> 00:50:00,680
Speaker 4: Oh? I oh? Yeah.

1253
00:50:00,800 --> 00:50:02,160
Speaker 2: Do you guys have any idea what that is?

1254
00:50:02,760 --> 00:50:04,959
Speaker 4: I just know Ohio Ohio State.

1255
00:50:05,200 --> 00:50:06,719
Speaker 2: Yeah, the Ohio State University.

1256
00:50:06,880 --> 00:50:06,960
Speaker 3: That.

1257
00:50:07,080 --> 00:50:08,800
Speaker 1: Yeah, when you see somebody with the shirt that is

1258
00:50:08,840 --> 00:50:11,600
Speaker 1: from Ohio State, you give them an oh. They will

1259
00:50:11,640 --> 00:50:14,920
Speaker 1: reply with an io if they're worth anything, and if

1260
00:50:14,960 --> 00:50:18,319
Speaker 1: they're not, they look at you like boo.

1261
00:50:18,600 --> 00:50:21,239
Speaker 4: What about if you're walking in the street and you hear.

1262
00:50:21,200 --> 00:50:24,480
Speaker 1: Go blue, I push them into the sewer. That happened

1263
00:50:24,480 --> 00:50:27,080
Speaker 1: with that old man down the hallway today. I know

1264
00:50:27,160 --> 00:50:29,360
Speaker 1: Diamond saw it. He was over here harassing me. About

1265
00:50:29,360 --> 00:50:31,359
Speaker 1: some stupid Michigan shit, and I was like, enough, Ean,

1266
00:50:31,400 --> 00:50:32,680
Speaker 1: I don't want to talk about this anymore.

1267
00:50:32,800 --> 00:50:34,680
Speaker 5: Someone actually looked at me as you were walking wing

1268
00:50:34,719 --> 00:50:37,520
Speaker 5: goes you just saved her because you were starting the interview,

1269
00:50:37,840 --> 00:50:39,880
Speaker 5: and I walked over and I was like, your interview

1270
00:50:39,920 --> 00:50:40,520
Speaker 5: is starting now?

1271
00:50:41,080 --> 00:50:43,280
Speaker 2: Oh yeah he was. He was like scrolling through pictures

1272
00:50:43,280 --> 00:50:44,200
Speaker 2: from nineteen sixty two.

1273
00:50:44,320 --> 00:50:47,000
Speaker 4: And then I apologized because you didn't even want to

1274
00:50:47,000 --> 00:50:48,279
Speaker 4: go over there. I asked you to go with me.

1275
00:50:48,360 --> 00:50:49,400
Speaker 2: So yeah, I got trapped.

1276
00:50:49,400 --> 00:50:52,480
Speaker 5: I got trapped in well h Carson eighty one IO.

1277
00:50:52,719 --> 00:50:53,200
Speaker 5: You do know that?

1278
00:50:53,520 --> 00:50:55,759
Speaker 1: So yeah, all right, Well, I guess we will be

1279
00:50:55,800 --> 00:50:58,680
Speaker 1: back next week, probably with the guys from the Stuff

1280
00:50:58,719 --> 00:51:01,480
Speaker 1: They Don't Want You to Know podcast, and those guys

1281
00:51:01,520 --> 00:51:03,600
Speaker 1: are pretty interesting, so I.

1282
00:51:03,600 --> 00:51:05,640
Speaker 2: Think we'll have a good time. How do they find

1283
00:51:05,680 --> 00:51:06,040
Speaker 2: you online?

1284
00:51:06,080 --> 00:51:08,120
Speaker 4: Guys at Diamond? Since here on everything but.

1285
00:51:08,360 --> 00:51:10,080
Speaker 2: X, Andrew, you're calling it X.

1286
00:51:10,080 --> 00:51:11,000
Speaker 5: You stop calling you Twitter?

1287
00:51:11,040 --> 00:51:11,400
Speaker 4: Whatever?

1288
00:51:11,640 --> 00:51:14,640
Speaker 5: All right, I'm Andrew Pugg just on Instagram.

1289
00:51:14,360 --> 00:51:15,360
Speaker 2: At Baby Hot Sauce.

1290
00:51:15,360 --> 00:51:17,360
Speaker 1: If you can find me on Instagram, I am on X,

1291
00:51:17,400 --> 00:51:19,399
Speaker 1: but I don't think I've tweeted since it became X.

1292
00:51:20,239 --> 00:51:23,239
Speaker 2: How do you even say that I xed X. Can

1293
00:51:23,239 --> 00:51:24,600
Speaker 2: you tweet on x.

1294
00:51:26,120 --> 00:51:28,920
Speaker 1: X post I posted on X. I don't like that

1295
00:51:28,920 --> 00:51:31,120
Speaker 1: it's too generic. Anyway, do better, Elon Musk.

1296
00:51:31,280 --> 00:51:32,960
Speaker 2: We'll be back. Say bye everybody.

1297
00:51:32,960 --> 00:51:35,880
Speaker 4: Bye.