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Speaker 1: He's the Drive with Dale Lolly and Matt Williamson on

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Speaker 1: Home of the Black and Gold Steelers Nation Radio. We

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Speaker 1: are back. I'm Dale Lolly here with Tom Offerman and

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Speaker 1: Matt Williamson, and this is hour three of the Drive

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Speaker 1: on Steelers Nation Radio and the guys let's go around

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Speaker 1: the league here a little bit to see what's going on.

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Speaker 1: The big news today is that Buccaneers center Ryan Jensen

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Speaker 1: who carded off with a knee injury today. That does

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Speaker 1: not look good and that's a big loss for them.

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Speaker 1: I think he's the highest paid center in the league

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Speaker 1: now after hitting free agency. Uh, the leader of a

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Speaker 1: very good old line, great rapport with Brady, typical bucks

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Speaker 1: you know, older guy in it to win it now

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Speaker 1: type of player. Probably a top five center in the league,

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Speaker 1: give or take nastiest center in the league. That would

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Speaker 1: be a big blow for them because they have two

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Speaker 1: a big blow for them, and certainly to your point,

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Speaker 1: I mean they that's the thing too. You know, they

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Speaker 1: just signed Julio Jones yesterday, so you use up a

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Speaker 1: little bit of whatever salary. I wonder if they yeah, right,

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Speaker 1: what they do today. Right, Hey, we might need that

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Speaker 1: extra members called j tread or right right because and

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Speaker 1: that's what I try to stress the stealer fans all

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Speaker 1: the time. You can't spend money that you don't have, right,

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Speaker 1: so you just use it it now to use it?

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Speaker 1: Using it just to use it does not make any sense.

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Speaker 1: Wait to see at the end of training camp, because

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Speaker 1: you're gonna have injuries. You're gonna injuries or there's late enough.

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Speaker 1: The process is just a bargain. You can't pass up

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Speaker 1: for two million of for a guy that's worth five million.

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Speaker 1: And you can't sign Joe Hayden if you don't have

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Speaker 1: the money to sign Joe Haden. Yeah, and you know,

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Speaker 1: I don't quite remember the Hayden situation, but I imagine

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Speaker 1: when he got let go, they're probably twenty teams in

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Speaker 1: the league that couldn't fit him under you know, they

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Speaker 1: just they you know, you're they're not even competing for

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Speaker 1: him if they love them. Yeah, I mean that's just

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Speaker 1: the reality of the ship stuation that you might even

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Speaker 1: bring Hayden back this year. I mean money you don't have.

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Speaker 1: The Chiefs signed Carlos Dunlap. Their pass rush was really bad.

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Speaker 1: This surprisingly drafted Carloft this you know, h Ingram's gone,

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Speaker 1: Jones a star, Um I had, Dune Lap still has something.

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Speaker 1: They were like a two man show on defense year.

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Speaker 1: Matthew in the back, who's gone, Chris Jones up front?

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Speaker 1: Like you said, it is a superstar. But it was

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Speaker 1: all the worst defense in the league. People don't like that.

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Speaker 1: And if it wasn't for those two, they wouldn't got

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Speaker 1: Um even look at their draft, I mean they drafted

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Speaker 1: probably should have been. The last few years they've kind

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Speaker 1: of let it all get away from them because they

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Speaker 1: two years ago, the whole project was rebuild the O line,

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Speaker 1: this year, I think it was all about defense. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: so we'll see how that goes. Um the do you

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Speaker 1: they gave Julio like a one year, six million dollar deal.

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Speaker 1: I think this is a big crossroad in Lamar's career

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Speaker 1: taking anything away from he could be my quarterback any day.

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Speaker 1: But that m v P year, no one had any

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Speaker 1: clue how to defend them. You know, they sprung that

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Speaker 1: And uh, the Steelers did open with seven shots today

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Speaker 1: the ball doesn't have to strike bla bla blah blah blah.

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Speaker 1: But he drops pastes, you know. And I will tell

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Speaker 1: you I didn't know this for a fact, And people

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Speaker 1: will laugh it off and say, nah, coaches don't hate drops.

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Speaker 1: If you get open. I mean, no one likes them.

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Speaker 1: But even like a guy coming out of college and

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Speaker 1: you write a report for them across the league, if

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Speaker 1: one of the negatives are drops, I can live with it,

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Speaker 1: you know. I mean, if he's getting open and doing

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Speaker 1: the other stuff, it's getting open to the hard thing.

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Speaker 1: You know. Okay, you dropped too that you shouldn't have

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Speaker 1: over the course of the year that you know, the

435
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Speaker 1: average receiver wouldn't have. Okay, you know, yeah, I loved

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Speaker 1: to have. Larry Fitzgerald never has a drop ever, but

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Speaker 1: a drop here and there. Okay, it's second and ten.

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Speaker 1: We'll get over it. That's what I said about your

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Speaker 1: point about getting open. Um. I I said that about

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Speaker 1: Limas Sweet when he was going through his problems. I'm like,

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Speaker 1: I don't know if people understand like he was getting

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Speaker 1: wide open. He did the hard stuff. He did the

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Speaker 1: hard right wide open in the NFL, down the sideline

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Speaker 1: several times, but it was a completion of the right,

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Speaker 1: right right. You gotta keep He couldn't keep key or

446
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Speaker 1: to fall. I mean, I don't want stonehand guys, but

447
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Speaker 1: I mean a lot of this. The top receivers in

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Speaker 1: the league will have their share of drops. I mean

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Speaker 1: Marty Cooper Ladly, he had like thirty one year. They're

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Speaker 1: all out there right, Okay, second and three and you

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Speaker 1: drop one. We'll live again, get you know, we get

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Speaker 1: to next one again. That's those third downs or that

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Speaker 1: drops in the end zone that they get magnified. They're

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Speaker 1: certainly game changing plays, you know. And the the other

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Speaker 1: thing that he talked about is it's kind of like

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Speaker 1: the baseball analogy that I always use with my players, like, Hey,

457
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Speaker 1: everybody's gonna strike out no matter who you are. Baseball

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Speaker 1: is a game of failure. If you if you bet

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Speaker 1: three hundred in Major League Baseball, you're gonna be a

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Speaker 1: Hall of Famer. So you're gonna get You're gonna happen.

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Speaker 1: You're gonna hit the ball hard, You're gonna you're gonna

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Speaker 1: get out, You're gonna hit a little soft one, and

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Speaker 1: it's gonna drop in for a hit. That's just the

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Speaker 1: reality of it. You're gonna strike out, it's what do

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Speaker 1: you do after that? And he's talked about that, he's

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Speaker 1: I think he's I think he's realized that, like when

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Speaker 1: he didn't have a drop for like the first ten

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Speaker 1: games last year, but then they then they started happening,

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Speaker 1: and then it got in his mind again that I'm dropping.

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Speaker 1: You know, I'm gonna drop the football, and so then

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Speaker 1: it becomes a self fulfilling prophecy. I think now he's

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Speaker 1: realized those drops are gonna be like strikeouts. I'm gonna

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Speaker 1: I'm gonna drop one, but I can't dropped two. I

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Speaker 1: kid dropped three. See I didn't. And you kind of

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Speaker 1: alluded to this. I mean two years ago there was

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Speaker 1: a stretch where it was in his head and they're

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Speaker 1: all eating him up and he was thinking about it,

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Speaker 1: I'm sure, and the yips bench because because he had

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Speaker 1: the hips. Yeah right, But I mean, if that never happens,

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Speaker 1: no one looks at him last year and be like, boy,

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Speaker 1: this guy's got a real drop. Prop. You know, he

482
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Speaker 1: had a bad month his career, going back to college.

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Speaker 1: It's never been an issue for him, had a bad

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Speaker 1: month over the course of his last eight years of

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Speaker 1: playing football, going off the way you said about him saying,

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Speaker 1: you know everybody strikes out's what to do after I

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Speaker 1: think about the Week twelve game against Baltimore last year

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Speaker 1: where he had a drop early in the game and

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Speaker 1: everybody was like, oh, here we go again with Theante

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Speaker 1: was on fire in that second half, finished with over

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Speaker 1: a hundred yards, had two touchdowns. It's exactly what he's

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Speaker 1: talking about. Don't worry about the drop, bounce back and

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Speaker 1: score two touchdowns on the second half. You were a

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Speaker 1: basketball player, like I was. I mean, you missed those

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Speaker 1: first four shots. If you're the shooter, though, you have

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Speaker 1: to keep shooting. You don't think, well, I'm gonna say

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Speaker 1: I'm gonna take the shot, but I'm gonna miss. You

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Speaker 1: take that next. Your teammates are gonna get mad at

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Speaker 1: you if you just stop shooting. If Deante just goes

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Speaker 1: to stop throwing me the ball guys and not catching

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Speaker 1: it the rest of the game, Like, dude, we need

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Speaker 1: you to catch eight times to have any If you're

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Speaker 1: the if you're the shooter, you shoot the basketball. Even

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Speaker 1: if you miss your first four or five shots, you

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Speaker 1: think those next four or five are gonna go in,

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Speaker 1: or you get the line somehow, or you know, you

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Speaker 1: change things up a little bit, throw them a bubble screen,

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Speaker 1: get his confidence back, or you know. I mean, there's

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Speaker 1: ways to get these guys the ball or to get

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Speaker 1: him on the right track. Yeah, so this is gonna

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Speaker 1: be an interesting situation. Again, I don't expect it to

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Speaker 1: to linger. I don't expect it to be like t J.

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Speaker 1: Watt where he doesn't practice at all in the preseason

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Speaker 1: or play. I don't know if you play, and I

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Speaker 1: think I think there'll be a definitive moment in this

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Speaker 1: situation where either the team goes again makes him an offer.

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Speaker 1: So this is our offer, take it or you know,

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Speaker 1: you can either accept it. But let's move on with

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Speaker 1: this whole thing hypothetical. Let's say we get off the

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Speaker 1: air and comes across Steelers and Deante Johnson agree to

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Speaker 1: a urn. Okay, what do you think he plays in

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Speaker 1: preseason anyway? Like I want to see boy Kin, I

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Speaker 1: want to see Miller. I want to see the two

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Speaker 1: you know, like right, But on the other side of

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Speaker 1: the coin, don't you kind of want to see the

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Speaker 1: new offense against the different team, just for one not

527
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Speaker 1: will play him in every game, but the second preseason

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Speaker 1: game one quarter starting offense, maybe not a full quarter

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Speaker 1: for guys like Naji. Maybe one series for Naji, then

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Speaker 1: you pull him back, but at least something of Okay, Mitch,

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Speaker 1: you're number one, you have all your weapons. It's a

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Speaker 1: different team out there. Let's see what you do in

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Speaker 1: a quarter. Did Naji play any last year in the preseason?

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Speaker 1: I don't think so. Or maybe two? Yeah, very very minimal.

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Speaker 1: But you're right though, this offense is very new and

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Speaker 1: just new quarterbacks, new quarterback big so maybe he does.

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Speaker 1: I kind of thought he'd be one of the offensive

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Speaker 1: guys that have the least chance to play. Maybe he's

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Speaker 1: more than like one series and then you're done. The

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Speaker 1: majority play the quarter but the stars Deonte, Yeah, interesting,

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Speaker 1: I do want to those other reivers. Yeah, that whole

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Speaker 1: preseason snap count thing is going to be interesting this

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Speaker 1: year with just three and you've got to get a

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Speaker 1: quarterback ready to play, and you've got an entirely new

545
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Speaker 1: offensive line for the most like a bunch of you

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Speaker 1: gonna reps. Got to get reps with those guys, real

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Speaker 1: live game situations, picking up stunts and things like that too,

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Speaker 1: and hot reads and all that stuff that comes with it. Yeah.

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Speaker 1: I haven't been excited for a preseason game in decades.

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Speaker 1: And seriously, there's a lot of stuff that you need

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Speaker 1: to figure out in the preseason. But when you have

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Speaker 1: your franchise quarterback and you know things are going to

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Speaker 1: go pretty well in the regular season, you don't really

554
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Speaker 1: need to see much but different, right exactly, So, like

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Speaker 1: this is just so different of an experience. I mean,

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Speaker 1: I was what like seven years old the last time

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Speaker 1: that they didn't have better office Burger out here in

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Speaker 1: preseason games actually mattered as far as the quarterback reps

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Speaker 1: are concerned, and we've kind of dismissed, you know, pick

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Speaker 1: it fighting for the job. I can't wait to watch

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Speaker 1: him playing live acts exactly. I mean even the fourth

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Speaker 1: quarter exactly. You know he's gonna play a lot, I

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Speaker 1: would think, and i'd imagine you know that for the

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Speaker 1: two of those preseason games were in Hines Field UM Stadium.

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Speaker 1: Now you I've avoided saying thank you very much in

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Speaker 1: the last two days Stadium. That's gonna take a while.

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Speaker 1: Acre Shore Stadium. I gotta keep saying it over and

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Speaker 1: over again. I don't love problem with that, is it

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Speaker 1: like some fans seem to. I don't have any problem

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Speaker 1: with it at all. Games Like, yeah, the product on

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Speaker 1: the field is product on the field. I love the

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Speaker 1: people that are like I had so many memories there.

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Speaker 1: It's the same damn stage. They blow it up right, hey.

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Speaker 1: I like that. I like their catch up as much

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Speaker 1: as the next guy. And the red zone stuff was

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Speaker 1: cool and the big catchup bottles were kind of unique.

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Speaker 1: But if you really think it's gonna change the experience

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Speaker 1: one bite, right, in fact, it may, you know, because

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Speaker 1: they're getting more money out of this. They may it

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Speaker 1: may be better. They may be able to put some

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Speaker 1: money into that. That's say, more money for the organization.

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Speaker 1: Might have a ripple effect for correct everyone involved. I mean,

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Speaker 1: God love Act for sure for stepping up. Yeah, you know,

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Speaker 1: I'll get used to it. Everybody get used. I mean,

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Speaker 1: you know, it's just the reality of the situation. Um.

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Speaker 1: But yeah, I I think for that last preseason game,

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Speaker 1: I would I would imagine Kenny Pickett starts it and

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Speaker 1: play most and then maybe like Chrystaloticon throw pass because

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Speaker 1: you still haven't throw one on the field and gets

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Speaker 1: the fourth quarter of the third game or something. There

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Speaker 1: you go, Chriss talk about a trial by fire. Yeah, right, right.

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Speaker 1: Do you think pick It gets more snaps in the

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Speaker 1: preseason than Rudolph made He gets the most snaps probably, yeah,

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Speaker 1: because again he's gonna play if he plays that or

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Speaker 1: the majority of that final game. Because what I appear

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Speaker 1: in all three games. He'll play in all three and

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Speaker 1: I would assume that it wouldn't shock me if Rudolph

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Speaker 1: doesn't appear in one of the games. Yeah, this is

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Speaker 1: not a Landry Jones type situation where let that preseason

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Speaker 1: Landry didn't play it. He hardly played at all. Um,

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Speaker 1: you still have to, you know, get Rudolph some snaps,

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Speaker 1: and he's getting a legitimate shot too, to be the starter.

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Speaker 1: I mean they're they're evaluating it. They're not just paying

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Speaker 1: lip service to that. I think they want Trabisky to

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Speaker 1: be the starter. But you know, f Rudolph's better, Rudolph's better.

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Speaker 1: I mean I think that would shock yet. But yeah,

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Speaker 1: it's not. But it's not like they have, you know,

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Speaker 1: a ton invested in mits Rubisky. You know, they didn't

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Speaker 1: pay him twenty five million dollars. He's the starter, right,

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Speaker 1: I mean it's not like Ben's preseason hasn't been so good.

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Speaker 1: You know, yeah, who cares what it's doing. He's sart.

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Speaker 1: Trabisky is out there and throws eight interceptions in the preseason.

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Speaker 1: You know that's different. They might have to have a meeting. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: you might need to talk about it. He's not reading coverages,

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Speaker 1: he's not getting the ball with his vans. Yeah, we

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Speaker 1: might have to have a discussion. Yeah. Absolutely, Um, guys,

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Speaker 1: let's take another break here, alright, one more segment the show. Absolutely,

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Speaker 1: we'll do that when we come back. He is Tom Offerman.

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Speaker 1: That is Matt Williamson and I am Dale Lolli. You

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Speaker 1: were listening to the drive here on Steelers Nation Radio.

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Speaker 1: We'll be back to finish up the show live from

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Speaker 1: Steelers training camp right after this home of the Black

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Speaker 1: and Gold. Steelers Nation Radio, Welcome back. I'm Dale Alli

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Speaker 1: here with Matt Williamson and the great Tom Offerman here

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Speaker 1: with us. Gracious enough to join us here, uh for

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Speaker 1: these practices here I said, we get through our shows

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Speaker 1: here at St. Vincent College. And a little little breaking

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Speaker 1: news here with in the NFL. The Jets are signing

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Speaker 1: linebacker Kwan Alexander. Okay, okay, it's it's about that time

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Speaker 1: of year where something of these, Yeah, you see the

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Speaker 1: camp a little and we'll pick up Julio, will pick

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Speaker 1: up Kuant Luxander, you know, Joe Hayden. Yeah, yeah, that's

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Speaker 1: kind of been my point all along with with you know, people,

634
00:32:08,160 --> 00:32:10,200
Speaker 1: you know, as soon as Mini camp and steel is

635
00:32:10,200 --> 00:32:13,160
Speaker 1: gonna sign this, they're gonna sign it. Like there's time.

636
00:32:13,240 --> 00:32:15,560
Speaker 1: There's still a lot of time veteran players out there

637
00:32:15,560 --> 00:32:17,880
Speaker 1: who are going to play in the NFL this season,

638
00:32:17,920 --> 00:32:20,040
Speaker 1: a lot of them, and they just they're just not

639
00:32:20,120 --> 00:32:22,480
Speaker 1: with the team yet and they may not be real

640
00:32:22,640 --> 00:32:25,680
Speaker 1: keen on signing at this time, right, I mean, oh,

641
00:32:25,760 --> 00:32:28,640
Speaker 1: b J is still out there. He had a resurgence

642
00:32:28,680 --> 00:32:30,080
Speaker 1: in l A. You'd think that he'd be on the

643
00:32:30,080 --> 00:32:33,840
Speaker 1: top of a lot of teams wish lists. Okay, so

644
00:32:34,360 --> 00:32:36,080
Speaker 1: at the top of the wish list, and that's right there,

645
00:32:36,080 --> 00:32:39,000
Speaker 1: a number two or number three. But if I'm the Packers, right,

646
00:32:39,120 --> 00:32:42,200
Speaker 1: I mean, he would stand two or three months without

647
00:32:42,240 --> 00:32:44,600
Speaker 1: him and then he comes back for hopefully a playoff run,

648
00:32:44,680 --> 00:32:47,080
Speaker 1: you know, or the Colts, you know, teams like that.

649
00:32:47,320 --> 00:32:49,720
Speaker 1: I mean that makes a lot of sense. We just

650
00:32:49,720 --> 00:32:52,320
Speaker 1: got a tweet about twenty minutes ago, and I think

651
00:32:52,360 --> 00:32:56,240
Speaker 1: it's an interesting conversation. Um. He asked the three of us.

652
00:32:56,280 --> 00:32:58,680
Speaker 1: His name is may Jeolry, Yeah, and he's tweeted us

653
00:32:58,720 --> 00:33:00,800
Speaker 1: quite a bit. He said, you would you be interested

654
00:33:00,800 --> 00:33:05,400
Speaker 1: in bringing in Darryl Williams or J C. Treader. I

655
00:33:05,480 --> 00:33:07,400
Speaker 1: never think it's a bad idea to have an extra

656
00:33:07,480 --> 00:33:11,520
Speaker 1: offensive lineman. J C. Treader's best day is better than

657
00:33:11,560 --> 00:33:14,440
Speaker 1: any center on this roster. And in mind including Daniels

658
00:33:14,480 --> 00:33:17,360
Speaker 1: in that mix. Um, he's a good movement, guys. His

659
00:33:17,400 --> 00:33:20,400
Speaker 1: own blocker Darryl Williams has played a lot of snaps

660
00:33:20,400 --> 00:33:23,080
Speaker 1: to tackle. I think there might be an injury with

661
00:33:23,120 --> 00:33:27,680
Speaker 1: it might be something there, but one year deal, you know,

662
00:33:27,960 --> 00:33:31,040
Speaker 1: a couple of million bucks. And I'm also thinking long

663
00:33:31,160 --> 00:33:34,560
Speaker 1: term that if even if they're you know, they leave

664
00:33:34,600 --> 00:33:36,480
Speaker 1: the team and they signed a nice contract a year

665
00:33:36,520 --> 00:33:39,400
Speaker 1: from now, that helps your comp stuff those kind of moves.

666
00:33:39,440 --> 00:33:41,240
Speaker 1: I don't have a problem. I would be shocked right

667
00:33:41,240 --> 00:33:43,760
Speaker 1: now if if J. C. Treader doesn't end up in

668
00:33:43,760 --> 00:33:46,840
Speaker 1: Tampa Bay. That seems a very logical move. They have

669
00:33:46,840 --> 00:33:49,560
Speaker 1: anything resembling cap space. Yeah, I also thought he has

670
00:33:49,560 --> 00:33:51,760
Speaker 1: a chance to be a Niner after Alex mc retired.

671
00:33:52,080 --> 00:33:54,640
Speaker 1: I think he's got a Brown's connection or whatever with

672
00:33:54,680 --> 00:33:58,520
Speaker 1: those guys too. Yeah, but that that's a Here's the

673
00:33:58,560 --> 00:34:01,080
Speaker 1: thing though, with some of these old eyes that are

674
00:34:01,080 --> 00:34:03,560
Speaker 1: still out there, you don't know how healthy they are.

675
00:34:03,840 --> 00:34:05,680
Speaker 1: Well that's the key. Yeah, that's I mean, they may

676
00:34:05,720 --> 00:34:08,520
Speaker 1: be dealing with something that you just don't know. Uh,

677
00:34:08,680 --> 00:34:14,680
Speaker 1: you don't know. Uh again, maybe they don't want to

678
00:34:15,360 --> 00:34:18,120
Speaker 1: go through two weeks of training camp, right like, give me,

679
00:34:18,280 --> 00:34:20,080
Speaker 1: you know, sign me with call me back at two

680
00:34:20,120 --> 00:34:22,160
Speaker 1: weeks before for the regular season. I don't have a

681
00:34:22,200 --> 00:34:24,839
Speaker 1: good sell service agents. Sorry, And I'm sure that those

682
00:34:24,920 --> 00:34:27,600
Speaker 1: you know, those two players, O'Dell, All these guys have

683
00:34:27,680 --> 00:34:30,360
Speaker 1: had plenty of conversations with teams. I mean, they're agents

684
00:34:30,440 --> 00:34:32,440
Speaker 1: know that there's teams are checking in with them to

685
00:34:32,480 --> 00:34:35,120
Speaker 1: see what Hey, how's how's Odell's needs coming? Like I'm

686
00:34:35,160 --> 00:34:39,120
Speaker 1: sure J. C. Trader's agent has he knows his client

687
00:34:39,200 --> 00:34:41,800
Speaker 1: will be on one of five teams. Well what is

688
00:34:41,840 --> 00:34:43,600
Speaker 1: gonna wait it out and see who gives us the

689
00:34:43,600 --> 00:34:45,840
Speaker 1: best deal and what's the best fit. But there's no

690
00:34:45,960 --> 00:34:48,640
Speaker 1: rush he's gonna be on. He's gonna play football this year. Yeah,

691
00:34:48,680 --> 00:34:50,080
Speaker 1: oh yeah, you know, you know, you know a lot

692
00:34:50,120 --> 00:34:53,800
Speaker 1: of those guys are so I you know, I again,

693
00:34:54,000 --> 00:34:57,440
Speaker 1: don't rush to sign somebody just because you know, hey,

694
00:34:57,440 --> 00:34:59,200
Speaker 1: we got this money burning a hole in our pocket.

695
00:34:59,440 --> 00:35:01,839
Speaker 1: And extra lineman though, would never be a bad move

696
00:35:01,920 --> 00:35:05,480
Speaker 1: in my think. Kevin Colbert said that after the season

697
00:35:05,880 --> 00:35:08,000
Speaker 1: that he wished he would have signed an extra and

698
00:35:08,000 --> 00:35:10,440
Speaker 1: the one more. But I kind of feel like they

699
00:35:10,440 --> 00:35:12,680
Speaker 1: did that this year. Oh I don't think they made

700
00:35:12,719 --> 00:35:16,400
Speaker 1: the same mistake. Yeah, but I wouldn't mind yet another

701
00:35:16,680 --> 00:35:18,680
Speaker 1: because I mean, I look at that depth chart, and

702
00:35:18,719 --> 00:35:21,799
Speaker 1: they signed Not only did they sign Mason Cole and

703
00:35:21,880 --> 00:35:25,720
Speaker 1: James Daniels, they brought Jukes back and then they added

704
00:35:26,080 --> 00:35:28,560
Speaker 1: Trent Scott as well. He was a guy with with

705
00:35:28,719 --> 00:35:32,560
Speaker 1: NFL experience. So they added really three outside guys with

706
00:35:32,719 --> 00:35:37,240
Speaker 1: NFL experience and didn't really lose anybody other than doesn't

707
00:35:37,239 --> 00:35:43,000
Speaker 1: really count play for So you replaced one NFL player

708
00:35:43,520 --> 00:35:47,960
Speaker 1: in Trey Turner with three. I mean there hopefully their

709
00:35:48,000 --> 00:35:51,200
Speaker 1: starters are better, but they're too deep. Is definitely better, Yeah,

710
00:35:51,520 --> 00:35:53,959
Speaker 1: especially even with like a Leglue stepping up and looking

711
00:35:54,000 --> 00:35:56,239
Speaker 1: like a keeper. Well right now, I'm looking here on

712
00:35:56,280 --> 00:36:01,760
Speaker 1: our lads. Their their depth chart. The Steeler backup offensive line,

713
00:36:02,400 --> 00:36:05,480
Speaker 1: Joe Haig, Kendrick Green, J C. Hassen Ower, John lou

714
00:36:05,600 --> 00:36:09,239
Speaker 1: Trent Scott, none of which would I hate seeing the field. Yeah,

715
00:36:09,320 --> 00:36:10,759
Speaker 1: I mean those are those are all guys that have

716
00:36:10,840 --> 00:36:13,839
Speaker 1: played in the NFL games. Um, you know, if they

717
00:36:13,920 --> 00:36:17,560
Speaker 1: keep ten, that's a decent tend to keep. I mean

718
00:36:17,560 --> 00:36:19,799
Speaker 1: you could you could do worse. And today Kendrick Green

719
00:36:19,880 --> 00:36:22,920
Speaker 1: worked with the ones they did wear, so it's definitely

720
00:36:22,960 --> 00:36:25,000
Speaker 1: an upgrade. I kind of wish a Melvin Gordon was

721
00:36:25,040 --> 00:36:28,520
Speaker 1: still on the open market. You know, not the Angela

722
00:36:28,560 --> 00:36:30,440
Speaker 1: Williams that's too good, but somebody that's been around the

723
00:36:30,480 --> 00:36:32,880
Speaker 1: block at the running back position that's a little older.

724
00:36:33,080 --> 00:36:35,719
Speaker 1: What about David Johnson still floating? He might be show.

725
00:36:35,760 --> 00:36:37,960
Speaker 1: I think he's done. No tread left on the tires.

726
00:36:38,560 --> 00:36:40,760
Speaker 1: I think him and lived bell Or have had similar

727
00:36:40,840 --> 00:36:44,440
Speaker 1: career passed and Johnson's kind of lasted just a little longer.

728
00:36:44,480 --> 00:36:47,239
Speaker 1: But neither one moves the needle. But he's been my

729
00:36:47,280 --> 00:36:49,839
Speaker 1: favorite name because he's also a big back that could

730
00:36:49,880 --> 00:36:52,399
Speaker 1: catch the ball like nausey really well. And you think

731
00:36:52,440 --> 00:36:55,200
Speaker 1: he knows that's a huge part of it. You got it.

732
00:36:55,239 --> 00:37:00,799
Speaker 1: You can't be can't not necessarily the adult in the room,

733
00:37:00,840 --> 00:37:03,239
Speaker 1: but just a guy that that you know, a young

734
00:37:03,239 --> 00:37:07,040
Speaker 1: guy like Naji Harris can go ask questions protection schemes

735
00:37:07,200 --> 00:37:09,160
Speaker 1: and how do you know, how do you set this

736
00:37:09,200 --> 00:37:12,280
Speaker 1: guy up on this route to like, you know, Naja,

737
00:37:12,320 --> 00:37:14,520
Speaker 1: you on a really good wheel route, but try this,

738
00:37:14,640 --> 00:37:16,640
Speaker 1: dip your shoulder a smidge or you know what I mean.

739
00:37:16,920 --> 00:37:18,920
Speaker 1: It worked really well for me five years ago, you know.

740
00:37:19,320 --> 00:37:22,280
Speaker 1: But Johnson, like Bell, I lump those two together because

741
00:37:22,320 --> 00:37:24,919
Speaker 1: they were really the two best backs in the league.

742
00:37:24,960 --> 00:37:27,719
Speaker 1: There for a three year strack or whatever. But that

743
00:37:27,800 --> 00:37:29,680
Speaker 1: was how many years ago. It's been a while. I

744
00:37:29,680 --> 00:37:31,959
Speaker 1: mean in running back years, it was an eternity. Yeah,

745
00:37:32,000 --> 00:37:36,080
Speaker 1: it's they're like dog years. Yeah, years eight. But there

746
00:37:36,120 --> 00:37:37,799
Speaker 1: might be somebody decent. There might be a brand name

747
00:37:37,800 --> 00:37:40,040
Speaker 1: guy that gets cut. And you know, I think they

748
00:37:40,080 --> 00:37:41,600
Speaker 1: really do want to take a look at those two

749
00:37:41,680 --> 00:37:45,480
Speaker 1: young guys, uh, them being Mateo Durant and jay Lem Warren.

750
00:37:46,040 --> 00:37:48,040
Speaker 1: I don't think there's guys are just throwaways. I don't

751
00:37:48,040 --> 00:37:50,719
Speaker 1: think the answer throwaway at all. Yeah, I mean I

752
00:37:50,760 --> 00:37:53,080
Speaker 1: don't know as much about Warren, but uh he's a

753
00:37:53,080 --> 00:37:57,759
Speaker 1: bigger back and and you know, Um has some has

754
00:37:57,760 --> 00:38:00,160
Speaker 1: some pop to him and and uh did well ast

755
00:38:00,200 --> 00:38:02,799
Speaker 1: year at Oklahoma State. So much like Benny Snell, those

756
00:38:02,800 --> 00:38:05,439
Speaker 1: guys will have to be special teamers. Yeah, that's that's

757
00:38:05,480 --> 00:38:08,200
Speaker 1: the key. Can they convince coach Smith that they're worth

758
00:38:08,280 --> 00:38:11,120
Speaker 1: keeping around or taking a chance on. And people are

759
00:38:11,239 --> 00:38:16,359
Speaker 1: down on Benny Snell. Um as a just throw him

760
00:38:16,400 --> 00:38:19,000
Speaker 1: in the game. Spell Naji Harris type runner and I

761
00:38:19,040 --> 00:38:21,480
Speaker 1: get that, but I don't think that's what he is.

762
00:38:21,960 --> 00:38:25,480
Speaker 1: I think he's your If something happens in Naja Harris

763
00:38:25,680 --> 00:38:28,439
Speaker 1: go out and carry the ball times for me, Tom,

764
00:38:28,440 --> 00:38:31,920
Speaker 1: I'm curious, do you think the books written on Anthony McFarland. No,

765
00:38:32,040 --> 00:38:34,359
Speaker 1: he barely played last year. He's still injured last year.

766
00:38:34,520 --> 00:38:38,359
Speaker 1: I just feel like they've never trusted it, and now

767
00:38:38,400 --> 00:38:40,799
Speaker 1: they have so many guys that do the thing that

768
00:38:40,880 --> 00:38:43,680
Speaker 1: he was brought in specifically to do. I mean, he

769
00:38:43,760 --> 00:38:46,480
Speaker 1: was mainly brought in to be that pass catching element

770
00:38:46,800 --> 00:38:50,879
Speaker 1: opposite of James Conner. And now you want to throw

771
00:38:50,920 --> 00:38:52,239
Speaker 1: the ball to Nagy just as much as you want

772
00:38:52,280 --> 00:38:53,560
Speaker 1: to hand the ball off the Nagy. I think a

773
00:38:53,600 --> 00:38:55,920
Speaker 1: big thing that Hart McFarland too, was he came out

774
00:38:56,000 --> 00:38:59,080
Speaker 1: the COVID year, so he had no preseason to show

775
00:38:59,120 --> 00:39:02,000
Speaker 1: the coaches, I can step up and pick up the blitz,

776
00:39:02,400 --> 00:39:04,920
Speaker 1: you know, in the preseason in a game situation. So

777
00:39:04,960 --> 00:39:07,080
Speaker 1: he was in act of a bunch and that was

778
00:39:07,120 --> 00:39:08,759
Speaker 1: a long time ago. I mean, he's had time to

779
00:39:08,800 --> 00:39:15,000
Speaker 1: redeem himself, but not being active very often. That's probably

780
00:39:15,000 --> 00:39:17,480
Speaker 1: It's now year three and you're no longer on scholarship,

781
00:39:17,520 --> 00:39:19,480
Speaker 1: even though you were a fourth round pick. It's it's

782
00:39:19,520 --> 00:39:21,200
Speaker 1: it's put up or shut up time. Because I kind

783
00:39:21,200 --> 00:39:23,440
Speaker 1: of feel like the McNichol signing was more shot at

784
00:39:23,480 --> 00:39:27,680
Speaker 1: him than's backup to Nagy. Absolutely, I think that. I

785
00:39:27,719 --> 00:39:30,040
Speaker 1: think they're the same types. I think you look at

786
00:39:30,480 --> 00:39:35,759
Speaker 1: Durant or Warren as Snell competition. Yeah, and that's that's

787
00:39:35,760 --> 00:39:38,880
Speaker 1: Anthony McFarland competition. Although those guys are also in competition

788
00:39:38,880 --> 00:39:42,400
Speaker 1: with Anthony McFarland. They seemed to want that pass catching

789
00:39:42,440 --> 00:39:46,239
Speaker 1: type back. Yeah, you know that runs. Well, that's two

790
00:39:46,320 --> 00:39:48,239
Speaker 1: hundred and five pounds, you know what I mean, not

791
00:39:48,280 --> 00:39:50,239
Speaker 1: a little little guy. And that is Durant as well.

792
00:39:50,280 --> 00:39:52,360
Speaker 1: I mean that's kind of what he is too. Yeah,

793
00:39:52,520 --> 00:39:54,000
Speaker 1: and preseason I have a lot to do with those guys.

794
00:39:54,000 --> 00:39:55,719
Speaker 1: Are gonna get ton of carries. That whole group, with

795
00:39:55,760 --> 00:39:59,799
Speaker 1: the non Nagy running backs, it's gonna be tough if

796
00:39:59,800 --> 00:40:02,880
Speaker 1: the are going good in games to spell Naji, Like

797
00:40:02,920 --> 00:40:05,920
Speaker 1: if they're going week after week after week. I always

798
00:40:05,920 --> 00:40:08,000
Speaker 1: get asked at, like like the leve Bell pro right,

799
00:40:08,080 --> 00:40:10,640
Speaker 1: Like if if you're winning a week three, week four,

800
00:40:10,680 --> 00:40:13,560
Speaker 1: week five and he's just carrying you to victory, how

801
00:40:13,600 --> 00:40:15,520
Speaker 1: are you going to game plan coming week seven to

802
00:40:15,680 --> 00:40:18,759
Speaker 1: spell him in the second quarter? Importantly, Tom, if you're

803
00:40:18,800 --> 00:40:21,960
Speaker 1: losing and you're like, yeah, you're not taking him out

804
00:40:21,960 --> 00:40:23,719
Speaker 1: of the game. Well we could, we could. We can

805
00:40:23,760 --> 00:40:26,719
Speaker 1: afford to have Naji on the sideline for this series. Yeah, yeah,

806
00:40:26,719 --> 00:40:28,560
Speaker 1: so all to talk about, Yeah, we'd like to lessen

807
00:40:28,560 --> 00:40:30,960
Speaker 1: his workload. That's fine to talk about, and hopefully it

808
00:40:30,960 --> 00:40:33,759
Speaker 1: works out that way, but it probably won't. He's gonna

809
00:40:33,800 --> 00:40:35,799
Speaker 1: be the offense this year. I used to be really

810
00:40:35,840 --> 00:40:40,840
Speaker 1: critical of Tomlin in the level. You're just saying put round,

811
00:40:41,000 --> 00:40:43,200
Speaker 1: grinding him into the ground. And that's a front office

812
00:40:43,239 --> 00:40:45,520
Speaker 1: way of looking at things. You know, Like a coach

813
00:40:45,560 --> 00:40:48,600
Speaker 1: doesn't think about that when they're in Baltimore week ten

814
00:40:48,840 --> 00:40:51,920
Speaker 1: with Wind and he's like, I run the wheels off.

815
00:40:51,920 --> 00:40:54,160
Speaker 1: Your job is to find me another one. That's how

816
00:40:54,160 --> 00:40:57,480
Speaker 1: the coach sakes Yeah, exactly. And you know, like if

817
00:40:57,480 --> 00:41:00,160
Speaker 1: it's third night, Naji is your best back, which in

818
00:41:00,239 --> 00:41:02,600
Speaker 1: one Nausey is your best back. If it's short yardage,

819
00:41:02,600 --> 00:41:06,400
Speaker 1: if it's receiving its protection. You know there's not one

820
00:41:06,480 --> 00:41:08,520
Speaker 1: down inside the five. Hey, Najy, come over here so

821
00:41:08,560 --> 00:41:11,560
Speaker 1: Benny can run them. No, right, Like as great as

822
00:41:11,960 --> 00:41:15,719
Speaker 1: Derrick Henry is, well third and nine, there's somebody better

823
00:41:15,760 --> 00:41:18,120
Speaker 1: on your team than him, or as great as Austin

824
00:41:18,160 --> 00:41:20,759
Speaker 1: Ekeler is on third and one, there's probably somebody on

825
00:41:20,760 --> 00:41:22,719
Speaker 1: the team better than him. But the way Nausea and

826
00:41:22,800 --> 00:41:26,279
Speaker 1: Love were, they're the best at every running back skill set,

827
00:41:26,920 --> 00:41:29,560
Speaker 1: which makes it tough. I mean, coaches don't care about

828
00:41:29,719 --> 00:41:32,480
Speaker 1: keeping this guy for ten years or you know. You know,

829
00:41:32,600 --> 00:41:35,160
Speaker 1: Nazi has been asked about that at Nauseum and he's like, look,

830
00:41:35,200 --> 00:41:37,160
Speaker 1: I'm built for this. This is what I do. He

831
00:41:38,800 --> 00:41:40,440
Speaker 1: doesn't want to come out of the game either that

832
00:41:40,560 --> 00:41:43,800
Speaker 1: that you know, he wants to football like I'm a

833
00:41:43,880 --> 00:41:46,520
Speaker 1: high volume guy. That's all. I'm sure that's why they

834
00:41:46,680 --> 00:41:48,200
Speaker 1: I mean, I bet that was the number one track

835
00:41:48,280 --> 00:41:50,239
Speaker 1: they liked out to him coming out of BAM. You know,

836
00:41:50,400 --> 00:41:53,160
Speaker 1: we know how we use our backs. Most backs coming

837
00:41:53,200 --> 00:41:56,120
Speaker 1: out of school can't handle that. I think this one can. Yeah,

838
00:41:56,280 --> 00:41:58,120
Speaker 1: And that's that's attractive. That's why you go in the

839
00:41:58,120 --> 00:42:01,680
Speaker 1: first round. That you know, availability, that ability to take

840
00:42:01,680 --> 00:42:05,120
Speaker 1: the football twenty five times every game and then do

841
00:42:05,160 --> 00:42:06,880
Speaker 1: it again the next week and the next week and

842
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Speaker 1: the next week. I would think Emma Smith in the

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Speaker 1: early nineties, he wasn't as good as Barry Sanders, but man,

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Speaker 1: they have a two point lead against the Niners and

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Speaker 1: his arms fallen off, the ball is still going to

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Speaker 1: Emmett behind that line thirty times. You know, best of

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Speaker 1: luck stopping him and he's getting six yards of pop.

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Speaker 1: You know. Yeah. I mean that's the that's the reality

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Speaker 1: that that those guys are just built differently. And again

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Speaker 1: it comes back to that athletic arrogance that that's a

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Speaker 1: mindset to you can't they like for Najia Harris, he

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00:42:38,360 --> 00:42:40,080
Speaker 1: can't go into any game thinking, boy, if I get

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Speaker 1: twenty more carries in this game, I'm gonna get hurt.

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Speaker 1: And with his work ethic and the way he is

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Speaker 1: off the field, I bet every time they pull him

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Speaker 1: off the sideline for a series, he's jumping out of

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Speaker 1: his skin and make him a crazy too, like why

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Speaker 1: am I over here? You know right? Yeah, I gotta

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Speaker 1: be in the game again. It's that it's that mentality

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Speaker 1: that I need the football to help us win the game. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: the A B mentality. I mean that that was the

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Speaker 1: thing about Harris is he works like B, which almost

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Speaker 1: could be a detriment because he worked so hard and

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Speaker 1: so much. They tell me go home last year, right,

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Speaker 1: you're working too hard. His high school coaches did that

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Speaker 1: to him, like out of the gym man. His high

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Speaker 1: school coaches had to send him home. They would they

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Speaker 1: would have to go check on him to make sure

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Speaker 1: that he wasn't at, you know, back working out again.

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Speaker 1: Antie that, Yeah, get get a hobby to a movie. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: so that's just you know, I that one, that one.

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Speaker 1: I I understand the argument, but I don't and I

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Speaker 1: see both sides of it. But I also see what

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Speaker 1: Mike Tomlins looking at with that one. And I think

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Speaker 1: you draft him saying you pick up his fifth year option,

876
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Speaker 1: maybe a franchise, and if you get six really good

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Speaker 1: years out of him, that's worth the first round pick

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Speaker 1: all day long. Absolutely, That's that's why they fully guaranteed

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Speaker 1: his contract. Yeah, you know, they didn't do that with

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Speaker 1: Kenny Pickett, but they fully guaranteed Nogies because he is

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00:43:57,520 --> 00:44:00,960
Speaker 1: that he plays that position and you know that that's

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00:44:01,000 --> 00:44:03,600
Speaker 1: a high security. Give him a little bit of security

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Speaker 1: with that. But I hate saying he is going to

884
00:44:05,239 --> 00:44:10,919
Speaker 1: get hurt. I mean that's just reality. You know, every

885
00:44:11,000 --> 00:44:13,040
Speaker 1: every player in this game is going to get you

886
00:44:13,080 --> 00:44:16,960
Speaker 1: know that, that's just as Yeah, guys, that's gonna do it.

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Speaker 1: We put it in the books or we will be

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Speaker 1: back tomorrow and we'll be back Saturday. No no shows

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Speaker 1: on Sunday. Remember Saturday the Hall of Honor class announced.

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Speaker 1: That'll be a big deal. Uh Tomorrow, Tomorrow Burd's gonna

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Speaker 1: join us to go over all the stuff happening out

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Speaker 1: here and how to get out here take advantage all

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Speaker 1: this stuff. We'll talk about at Reshore Stadium. So lots

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Speaker 1: of stuff to talk about with that, and everything is

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Speaker 1: going to happen here in the preseason as well. Can't

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Speaker 1: wait for that, can't wait for tomorrow. Every day is

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Speaker 1: a new day here at training camp. It's the beauty

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Speaker 1: of it there. It's it's like groundhog Day, but every

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Speaker 1: day there's something. There's always something going on. Absolutely. But

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Speaker 1: so for my partner Matt Williamson, for Tom Opferman joining

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Speaker 1: us here as he has done the last two days. Now,

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Speaker 1: I am Dale Lally. We thank you for listening to

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Speaker 1: this edition of The Drive Steelers Nation Radio. When you

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Speaker 1: want Black and Gold football talk, you want s n R.