WEBVTT - Ours to Win

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<v Speaker 1>It's July. Welcome everyone to the Rose Bowl in Pasadena, California,

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<v Speaker 1>as we prepare for the much anticipated final between China

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<v Speaker 1>and the United States. More than people are gathered to

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<v Speaker 1>watch the Women's World Cup soccer final, the largest crowd

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<v Speaker 1>ever to see a women's sporting event. This is more

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<v Speaker 1>than a game. This is a defining moment in women's

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<v Speaker 1>sports history. It's also about a hundred degrees on the field,

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<v Speaker 1>and the California's son is brutal. The closely fought game

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<v Speaker 1>is still tight at zero after one twenty minutes of soccer.

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<v Speaker 1>The exhausted American and Chinese players lie on the turf

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<v Speaker 1>while trainers massage. They're cramped muscles. Now the biggest pressure

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<v Speaker 1>of your lives. For most of these women, maybe all,

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<v Speaker 1>they're most important cavally kicks. Ever, the penalty kick shootout

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<v Speaker 1>is tied at four, and the USA's final kicker, Brandy Chastain,

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<v Speaker 1>steps up to the pen holty box and into the

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<v Speaker 1>history books shop stand will take up she missed a

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<v Speaker 1>penalty kick against China. I'll go and they lost that

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<v Speaker 1>care Then the woman known as Hollywood to her teammates,

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<v Speaker 1>whips off her jersey and sets off one of the

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<v Speaker 1>most memorable celebrations in sports history. The party began to pasitator.

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<v Speaker 1>Whether this was that it continues from the roast part

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<v Speaker 1>and pasitator have extent just one the woman's world time.

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<v Speaker 1>Brandy Chastain's kick mark the climax of a summer when

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<v Speaker 1>millions of Americans and a whole new generation of soccer

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<v Speaker 1>fans fell in love with their national team. But it

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<v Speaker 1>marks so much more than just that. Maybe it's an

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<v Speaker 1>holy shame to day. Roll wasn't built in a day,

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<v Speaker 1>puts in the arena, not above the sound and periods

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<v Speaker 1>that day. Let us play, Let us play. I'm Sean Braswell.

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<v Speaker 1>And This is the Thread, a podcast from ouzie Or.

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<v Speaker 1>We unravel the stories behind some of the most important

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<v Speaker 1>lives and events in history to discover how one thing

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<v Speaker 1>leads to another. We launched this season of The Thread

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<v Speaker 1>as the US women's national soccer team takes the field

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<v Speaker 1>in France for the twenty nineteen World Cup. This July

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<v Speaker 1>also marks the twentieth anniversary of the ninety nine ers

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<v Speaker 1>U S women's team, whose victory at the Rose Bowl

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<v Speaker 1>on that sweltering summer day remains seared into the memories

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<v Speaker 1>of millions. In season five of The Thread, we tell

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<v Speaker 1>the incredible backstory behind that World Cup triumph, but it's

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<v Speaker 1>not a story that happened on its own. This season

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<v Speaker 1>is about how the weight of history builds behind a

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<v Speaker 1>single defining moment, how little details can change the course

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<v Speaker 1>of history. We'll hear about how nineteen students at Yale

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<v Speaker 1>strip naked in an athletic director's office and changed how

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<v Speaker 1>female college athletes are treated, how a largely forgotten black

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<v Speaker 1>transgender lawyer laid the ground work for multiple civil rights victories,

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<v Speaker 1>and how a single word placed into a single congressional

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<v Speaker 1>bill opened up the floodgates of opportunity that led up

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<v Speaker 1>to that glorious summer day in the national team's victory

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<v Speaker 1>in n was not its first Women's Soccer World Cup title.

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<v Speaker 1>It was not even its first championship. In the nineteen nineties,

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<v Speaker 1>the team started the decade with a World Cup victory

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<v Speaker 1>in China. That experience, however, was very different from ninety nine.

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<v Speaker 1>You know, no one has names on their jerseys and

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<v Speaker 1>only some of the games were televised. Jim Cooper is

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<v Speaker 1>a soccer analyst and researcher for Fox Sports. And the

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<v Speaker 1>host of the Mixed Zone podcast. There had never been

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<v Speaker 1>a women's World Cup before, and FIFA, the governing body

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<v Speaker 1>and charge of men's international old soccer, wasn't quite sure

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<v Speaker 1>what to do. FIFA felt like, well, we don't know,

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<v Speaker 1>if you know, the women can last ninety minutes, so

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<v Speaker 1>we're going to make the games eighty minutes long. And

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<v Speaker 1>of course they called it not the Women's World Cup.

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<v Speaker 1>They called it the FIFA World Championship for the Eminem's

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<v Speaker 1>Cup because the tournament was sponsored by Eminem's. Welcome to

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<v Speaker 1>China and a truly historic occasion. For the first time

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<v Speaker 1>in the history of American soccer, a US team will

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<v Speaker 1>play World World Championship. But the U S team did

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<v Speaker 1>not just come to play. Tim Nash is the author

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<v Speaker 1>of It's Not the Glory and has covered the women's

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<v Speaker 1>national team for decades. No one would believe that the

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<v Speaker 1>US could play soccer men or women, or dogs or cats.

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<v Speaker 1>It just wasn't gonna happen. So when they went there

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<v Speaker 1>and they started smashing people, it really turned some heads.

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<v Speaker 1>The American steamrolled their way through the tournament. They developed

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<v Speaker 1>this attacking game. It was just fun to watch. It

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<v Speaker 1>was entertaining. They just scored an unbelievable amount of goals.

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<v Speaker 1>The team outscored their opponents twenty five to five, winning

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<v Speaker 1>all six games they played. Michelle Acres, an aggressive midfielder

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<v Speaker 1>who later helped lead the ninety nine to victory, scored

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<v Speaker 1>ten of those goals, including five in one game and

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<v Speaker 1>the winning goal in the final against Norway. Michelle with

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<v Speaker 1>a boy run up field here open that the US

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<v Speaker 1>beat Norway two to one before sixty five thousand people.

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<v Speaker 1>First of all, Michelle, what can I say? How does

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<v Speaker 1>it feel? I feel great? I mean, I'm gonna be

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<v Speaker 1>floating on Seventh Heaven until two years from now. Many,

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<v Speaker 1>we better get out of here in a hurry. Between

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<v Speaker 1>all the fireworks and the celebration. There's a whole lot

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<v Speaker 1>of party and gonna go on down here in China.

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<v Speaker 1>But back in America, a few people cared about the

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<v Speaker 1>historic victory. Jin Cooper again, I love the story of

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<v Speaker 1>Michelle Acres. You know, when they finally get back to

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<v Speaker 1>New York, and you know, and they're all separate and

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<v Speaker 1>going home, and the woman on the plane next her,

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<v Speaker 1>it's like, oh, where where have you been traveling? She's

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<v Speaker 1>like I was in China, we won the Women's World

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<v Speaker 1>Cup and the woman replaced Well, that's nice, dear. No

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<v Speaker 1>one knew what a Women's World Cup was. Caitlin Murray

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<v Speaker 1>is a journalist and author of the National Team, The

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<v Speaker 1>Inside Story of the Women who changed Soccer. And when

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<v Speaker 1>the players got to the airport pretty much known was there?

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<v Speaker 1>You know? The players joke there were two people there.

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<v Speaker 1>It was their bus driver and their operations manager. Unlike

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<v Speaker 1>there were no parades or appearances on David Letterman. The

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<v Speaker 1>national team played only two games the following year, two

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<v Speaker 1>in World Cup. The team lost a heartbreaker in the

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<v Speaker 1>semifinals to their old rivals Norway. Then, finally a bigger

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<v Speaker 1>opportunity came calling. Women's soccer was included in the Olympics

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<v Speaker 1>for the first time. In Tim Nash, the Olympics really

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<v Speaker 1>was the turning point. That was that was a huge deal.

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<v Speaker 1>It was still the question of will anybody come watch?

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<v Speaker 1>They did. The women's national team played before packed football

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<v Speaker 1>size stadiums. Jim Cooper again, it's such a mixed bag

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<v Speaker 1>the n Olympics because it had such an incredible impact

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<v Speaker 1>on the sport, but not many people got to see

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<v Speaker 1>it unless you were actually in the stadium. Uh. The

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<v Speaker 1>joke at the time was they were calling NBC no

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<v Speaker 1>bloody coverage because they aired all of about three minutes

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<v Speaker 1>of the final. NBC barely covered the Olympic gold medal,

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<v Speaker 1>but there were tens of thousands in the stands cheering.

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<v Speaker 1>This was the beginning of a movement, and for millions

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<v Speaker 1>of fans, the movement was synonymous with a single player.

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<v Speaker 1>I could be champion of Women's Well Cup soccer. I

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<v Speaker 1>can be a goal like soccer. Mia Hamm joined the

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<v Speaker 1>national team when she was just fifteen. She was fast, fearless, relentless,

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<v Speaker 1>one of the greatest goal scorers in the history of

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<v Speaker 1>international soccer, and by the late nineteen nineties she was everywhere.

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<v Speaker 1>The US gold medalist, Mia ham spens ninety minutes destroying

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<v Speaker 1>her hair and ninety seconds bringing it back with pert plus.

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<v Speaker 1>Hamm became a household name. She was in a commercial

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<v Speaker 1>with Michael Jordan's. She was shy, introverted, but gave hours

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<v Speaker 1>of interviews, signed thousands of autographs. It was a duty

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<v Speaker 1>she took very seriously. It's kind of cool. I mean,

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<v Speaker 1>one of the coolest things is walking into a stadium

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<v Speaker 1>and seeing those you know, young girls and young boys

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<v Speaker 1>wearing your jersey, and it's something that I think is

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<v Speaker 1>extremely important and I take responsibility for it. The amount

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<v Speaker 1>of pressure on Ham was enormous and her teammates marveled

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<v Speaker 1>at how she handled it all. Tracy Noonan or Tracy

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<v Speaker 1>Doukar as she was known, was a goalkeeper on the squad.

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<v Speaker 1>She was, you know, the face of our team, and

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<v Speaker 1>she was under a lot of pressure as a forward

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<v Speaker 1>to produce and to score, and you know, she managed

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<v Speaker 1>that unbelievably, in my opinion, Americans started to pay attention

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<v Speaker 1>to women's soccer as never before, just in time for

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<v Speaker 1>the country to play host to its first Women's World Cup.

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<v Speaker 1>Marla Essing was the president and CEO of the FIFA

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<v Speaker 1>Women's World Cup. The event had last been played in Sweden,

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<v Speaker 1>and I think they averaged like maybe three or maybe

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<v Speaker 1>even four thousand people per match. So um, they weren't

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<v Speaker 1>thinking of big stadiums or major markets. But after we

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<v Speaker 1>saw what had happened with the men's World Cup in

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<v Speaker 1>ninety four as well as um the women's soccer event

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<v Speaker 1>at the Olympics, we felt like the event had the

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<v Speaker 1>potential um to to do well. In large stadiums and

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<v Speaker 1>major markets. Not everyone was optimistic, author Caitlin Murray. You

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<v Speaker 1>have to keep in mind at this time soccer was

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<v Speaker 1>not a popular sport in the United States by any means.

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<v Speaker 1>One year earlier, the men's team went to the World

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<v Speaker 1>Cup and came in dead last place. It was an

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<v Speaker 1>absolute embarrassment, and soccer just wasn't cool at the time.

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<v Speaker 1>Many doubted a women's World Cup could fill large stadiums,

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<v Speaker 1>but World Cup planners did their best to prepare for

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<v Speaker 1>any outcome. If tickets didn't sell, they were going to

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<v Speaker 1>put up tarps and decorations to hide the empty sections.

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<v Speaker 1>They also blacked out time to have concerts, so if

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<v Speaker 1>tickets weren't selling well, they would have a concert as

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<v Speaker 1>part of the event, and then they could maybe sell

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<v Speaker 1>more tickets that way. In the end, the skeptics were wrong,

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<v Speaker 1>and perhaps the biggest reason the skeptics were wrong an

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<v Speaker 1>unprecedented grassroots promotion campaign led by the players themselves author

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<v Speaker 1>Tim Nash. They went to cities where they hadn't been before,

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<v Speaker 1>parts of the country where they had been before. I mean,

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<v Speaker 1>they didn't just lock themselves in the hotel. All they

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<v Speaker 1>go to and get on the bus and go to

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<v Speaker 1>training and come back. They were out in the community.

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<v Speaker 1>They're doing clinics, anything they could to sell. Take. The

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<v Speaker 1>players would stay and sign autographs for hours until every

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<v Speaker 1>single fan got one. They became ambassadors for the game

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<v Speaker 1>and for women more broadly. Tracy Noonan, we were spending time,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, after every event, every game, every practice, UM

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<v Speaker 1>signing autographs, meet and greets um, anytime that we had

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<v Speaker 1>an opportunity in front of the media to speak and

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<v Speaker 1>promote you know what our message was. Goaltender Brianna Scurry

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<v Speaker 1>put it later. We had ownership of that World Cup.

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<v Speaker 1>It was ours to put on and it was ours

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<v Speaker 1>to win. Marla Messing again, former president of the Women's

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<v Speaker 1>World Cup. These were amazing women. Some of them had

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<v Speaker 1>been playing soccer and almost total obscurity for over a decade.

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<v Speaker 1>They were articulate, intelligent, educated, They cared deeply about the game,

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<v Speaker 1>and they were They were also role models. This is

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<v Speaker 1>Lorden Gregg, one of the coaches on the squad. Every

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<v Speaker 1>time we stepped out onto a training field or a game,

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<v Speaker 1>every one of us looked in the eyes of those

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<v Speaker 1>young kids, boys and girls, and knew that we had

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<v Speaker 1>such an enormous responsibility to pave a different path for them.

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<v Speaker 1>Americans came to know thee and to love them in

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<v Speaker 1>the weeks and months before the World Cup. They wanted

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<v Speaker 1>to be part of the team's journey. I think that's

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<v Speaker 1>what endeared them so much the American people is they

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<v Speaker 1>became household names. They became people that not just athletes

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<v Speaker 1>that they admire, but people that they admired, and that

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<v Speaker 1>they were real and genuine and open, and they were

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<v Speaker 1>the role models they never had. And Women's World Cup

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<v Speaker 1>tickets started to sell like never before. Soccer analyst Jin Cooper,

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<v Speaker 1>four months before the tournament started to announced that they

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<v Speaker 1>had already sold two hundred thousand tickets, which was about

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<v Speaker 1>double the attendance of the very small World Cup, and

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<v Speaker 1>the response from the press was your line. The players

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<v Speaker 1>themselves didn't quite believe it, and no one knew what

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<v Speaker 1>to expect. When the World Cup finally launched that June.

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<v Speaker 1>Up next, the team that started in obscurity and became

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<v Speaker 1>the talk of the nation was about to forever alter

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<v Speaker 1>the landscape of sports in America. The big day finally came.

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<v Speaker 1>It was time for the U S women's soccer team

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<v Speaker 1>to take the field after months of barnstorming the country.

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<v Speaker 1>The team's opener was at Giant Stadium in New Jersey

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<v Speaker 1>and eight thou Seed Arena that's usually the side of

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<v Speaker 1>NFL games and rock concerts. Author Caitlin Murray. The team

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<v Speaker 1>was going to arrive at Giants Stadium on their team buss,

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<v Speaker 1>the way they always do for games. Nothing unusual about that.

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<v Speaker 1>But as they were approaching the stadium, the traffic started

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<v Speaker 1>to get really, really bad, and the team was at

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<v Speaker 1>a standstill, and the players started to actually worry that

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<v Speaker 1>they were going to be late for their own game.

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<v Speaker 1>The players wondered what was causing all of the traffic.

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<v Speaker 1>Was there something happening in New York City that was

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<v Speaker 1>backing up to the New Jersey Turnpike. But then as

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<v Speaker 1>the ride continues and the players get a little closer,

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<v Speaker 1>they start to notice that all these cars that are

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<v Speaker 1>congesting the roads have paint on them, let's say, go

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<v Speaker 1>USA and American flags, and they realized, all of this

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<v Speaker 1>traffic is here to see us. When the players finally

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<v Speaker 1>got to the stadium, they saw people tailgating and playing

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<v Speaker 1>pick up soccer games in the parking lot. The players

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<v Speaker 1>had spent so much time getting the word out, helping

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<v Speaker 1>market this event, this World Cup, that I think it

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<v Speaker 1>was a really gratifying experience for them to see that

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<v Speaker 1>it had worked. Victory will be bad to day. This

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<v Speaker 1>is the largest club whoever with the women's soccer bat.

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<v Speaker 1>It was also the largest crowd to see a sporting

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<v Speaker 1>event at Giants Stadium. Only the Pope drew a bigger one.

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<v Speaker 1>The team filled the stadium. Now they had to beat Denmark.

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<v Speaker 1>Team member Tracy Nowton. There's a lot of pressure then

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<v Speaker 1>to do well and to win, because if we do

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<v Speaker 1>go big and it flops, what's going to really hurt

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<v Speaker 1>women soccer. A scoreless tie came to an end in

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<v Speaker 1>the eighteenth minute when number nine Mia Hamm received the

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<v Speaker 1>ball coming down the right side pane, reversing all the

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<v Speaker 1>way to be a halb hab Wi down fill out

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<v Speaker 1>of the left. The stadium erupts. Ham's teammate mob her

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<v Speaker 1>in a sea of red jerseys. That was also really

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<v Speaker 1>big release for everybody, like all right, we've got a goal.

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<v Speaker 1>Here we go. Everything's gonna be okay. The US one

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<v Speaker 1>easily three to nothing over Denmark. Next they played to

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<v Speaker 1>a sold out crowd in Chicago, beating Nigeria seven to one,

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<v Speaker 1>then be North Korea to top their group and advanced

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<v Speaker 1>to the quarterfinals in Washington, d C. To play Germany.

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<v Speaker 1>Journalist Caitlin Murray the team started really strong, and they

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<v Speaker 1>looked really good until they went up against the Germans.

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<v Speaker 1>Just five minutes into the game, disasters struck right in

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<v Speaker 1>front of the American goal. It was an own goal,

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<v Speaker 1>and the US trailed one to nothing. And suddenly, for

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<v Speaker 1>the first time in the whole tournament, the US was

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<v Speaker 1>actually at risk of being knocked out, and Brandy Chastain

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<v Speaker 1>was at risk of being the goat for the American defeat.

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<v Speaker 1>Coach Lauren Gregg our captain Carla Overbeck went to Brandy

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<v Speaker 1>and said, you know, we need you, and basically like,

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<v Speaker 1>snap out of it. We need you, you know, just

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<v Speaker 1>re framing her. Immediately, four minutes into the second half,

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<v Speaker 1>Chastain redeemed herself, striking a goal to even the score.

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<v Speaker 1>President Bill Clinton and First Lady Hillary Clinton celebrated as

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<v Speaker 1>they watched from a suite above the field. The US

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<v Speaker 1>defeated Germany and then blew by Brazil in the semifinal.

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<v Speaker 1>Thousands of people started to turn up to watch team practices.

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<v Speaker 1>It felt like all eyes were focused on women's soccer

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<v Speaker 1>that summer, and no longer just on Mia Hamm Jen Cooper.

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<v Speaker 1>One of the smartest things that Mia Hamm did in

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<v Speaker 1>advance of the tournament was say, hey, I don't want

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<v Speaker 1>to be in all the ads. So we ended up

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<v Speaker 1>getting not just Mia ham out of the tournament, but

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<v Speaker 1>Julie Foudy became a household name, Brandy Chastain became a

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<v Speaker 1>household name, Branda Scurry became a household name. And these

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<v Speaker 1>players did almost everything as a team, something even the

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<v Speaker 1>television commercials picked up on, including this famous Nike ad

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<v Speaker 1>How'd it go? He had to drill I got two fillings,

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<v Speaker 1>then I will have two fillings. But Mia, I just

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<v Speaker 1>examined your teeth. They're perfect. I will have two fillings.

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<v Speaker 1>I will have two fillings. I will have two fillings.

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<v Speaker 1>Commercials aside. The US women's national team was about to

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<v Speaker 1>play the biggest game of their lives. So much was

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<v Speaker 1>writing on that final game against China, and there were

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<v Speaker 1>so many things that could go wrong. Two days until

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<v Speaker 1>the finals, and if you don't know what finals, you

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<v Speaker 1>may already have missed some of the most exciting sports

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<v Speaker 1>action in a long time. Saturday's championship match between the

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<v Speaker 1>US and China and Women's World Cup Soccer s all

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<v Speaker 1>the atmosphere of a Super Bowl. The Women's World Cup

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<v Speaker 1>final was held in the Rose Bowl in Pasadena, California,

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<v Speaker 1>the fifteenth largest stadium in the world. The U S

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<v Speaker 1>team faced a formidable Chinese squad that had cruised through

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<v Speaker 1>the tournament. Team member Tracy Nowton, you know the game

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<v Speaker 1>is a chess match, back and forth. I mean it

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<v Speaker 1>was opportunities, great saves, back and forth, back and forth,

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<v Speaker 1>try and want to count for Chress Bird. The game

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<v Speaker 1>was a scoreless tie after ninety minutes. The American defense,

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<v Speaker 1>led by Michelle Acres, held China to just two shots

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<v Speaker 1>on gold. Then, ten minutes into extra time, China launched

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<v Speaker 1>a corner kick and sent a header toward the far post.

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<v Speaker 1>U S goaltender Brianna Scurry, guarding the near post, could

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<v Speaker 1>not get to it. Try said, we was clad but homeless.

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<v Speaker 1>For God, defender Christine Lily lunged upward and headed the

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<v Speaker 1>ball away, preventing an almost certain Chinese goal. The game

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<v Speaker 1>was still scoreless after one and twenty minutes. Refreence. Just

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<v Speaker 1>look at the watch. That's it the winner, I'll be.

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<v Speaker 1>Women's World Cup will be divided on penalty kicks and

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<v Speaker 1>a penalty shootout. Each team takes turn shooting at the

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<v Speaker 1>goal and the opposing team's goalkeeper. The team with the

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<v Speaker 1>most goals after five attempts wins. Author Caitlin Murray, the

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<v Speaker 1>penalty shootout is just designed to play tricks on people's minds,

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<v Speaker 1>and there are all these little psychological things that players do.

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<v Speaker 1>Either they look at the goalkeeper so the goalkeeper knows

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<v Speaker 1>they're not scared, or they block the goalkeeper out they

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<v Speaker 1>walk up. They only focus on the ball, They don't

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<v Speaker 1>pay attention to anything else. It was a situation the

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<v Speaker 1>US players were well prepared for coach Lauren greg You

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<v Speaker 1>never know what moment is going to change a game.

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<v Speaker 1>The penalty kicks themselves. We prepared for that. I had countless,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, pages and pages of documented plony kicks all spring,

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<v Speaker 1>so we were way more prepared for that moment, as

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<v Speaker 1>prepared as you can never be to have to win

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<v Speaker 1>a World Cup, you know, and palony kicks. But the

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<v Speaker 1>pressure was still enormous. Caitlyn Murray. I think the players

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<v Speaker 1>felt the way of the moment, and they couldn't let

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<v Speaker 1>anything going wrong throw them off their mission, which was

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<v Speaker 1>to cap off this fairy tale, this moment that they

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<v Speaker 1>had helped create. They had to win. The first two

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<v Speaker 1>American kickers, veterans Carla Overbeck and Joy Faucet, nailed their

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<v Speaker 1>kicks past the Chinese goalkeeper, but China match the u

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<v Speaker 1>S shot for shot, and it was two to two

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<v Speaker 1>in the shootout, so the pressure mounted on the goalkeepers

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<v Speaker 1>to make a save. Jin Cooper, any goalkeeper knows when

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<v Speaker 1>you're going into a penalty kick situation, you're lucky if

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<v Speaker 1>you get one, but if you get one, you've really

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<v Speaker 1>given your team the opportunity to win. As the third

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<v Speaker 1>Chinese kicker came forward, the US goalkeeper, Brianna Scurry stared

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<v Speaker 1>her down the shots. Scurry dove left and batted to

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<v Speaker 1>kick away. Suddenly the Americans had a chance to take

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<v Speaker 1>the lead. It all came down to Brandy Chasting, the

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<v Speaker 1>last kicker in the USA's rotation. On the snaps chick

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<v Speaker 1>chop Stain will take it. She loss a pedaled kidneys

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<v Speaker 1>Chatta the pup and I lost that care. Chastain placed

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<v Speaker 1>the ball in the spot and took a few steps back.

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<v Speaker 1>Tracy knun It. Yeah. I mean we were all standing

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<v Speaker 1>on like the very edge of the sideline, holding hands

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<v Speaker 1>like anything that we can do, Like we kind of

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<v Speaker 1>don't want to look, but we want to look at it.

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<v Speaker 1>It's so nerve wracking. Chastain fired a shot across her

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<v Speaker 1>body to the right side of the gold with her

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<v Speaker 1>left foot. Every time I watched that video, it always

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<v Speaker 1>looks like it's going to go out. It's a pretty dramatic,

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<v Speaker 1>risky shot to take. The stadium erupted and Chastain's teammates

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<v Speaker 1>rushed toward her, and then the moment that she sported

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<v Speaker 1>it was just like absolutely I think everyone just like

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<v Speaker 1>ran to Brandy. Of course, Chastain released some of her

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<v Speaker 1>emotion by ripping off her jersey and waving it around

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<v Speaker 1>her head. Then she dropped to her knees and her

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<v Speaker 1>sports braun with both fists in the air. Caitlin Murray,

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<v Speaker 1>there was that iconic photo of her holding in her

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<v Speaker 1>jersey in her sports braw celebrating just this release of

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<v Speaker 1>just pure joy. That is a moment that I think

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<v Speaker 1>still to this day is one of the most iconic

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<v Speaker 1>moments in all of sports. The victory meant so much

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<v Speaker 1>to women's sports, but it meant something to more than

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<v Speaker 1>just women. Two thirds of the TV viewers who watched

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<v Speaker 1>that World Cup were men. There wasn't a gender tag

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<v Speaker 1>on the game. Stacy, you know, has played on the

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<v Speaker 1>very first women's national team almost thirty five years ago.

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<v Speaker 1>It was just like that was one of the best

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<v Speaker 1>sporting events ever. And people didn't extinguished male or female,

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<v Speaker 1>but they were genuinely walking up to me on the

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<v Speaker 1>street saying, I have never been so captivated by soccer

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<v Speaker 1>in my whole life. That was the best sporting event ever.

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<v Speaker 1>The players paraded down Disneyland's main street in California, they

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<v Speaker 1>appeared on late night talk shows, They journeyed to the

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<v Speaker 1>White House to meet the President and first ladys. They've

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<v Speaker 1>definitely stolen our hearts and by creating the largest women's

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<v Speaker 1>sporting event in history, they have exploded the myth once

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<v Speaker 1>and for all that women's sports can't attract fans and

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<v Speaker 1>public attention, and it is about time that that has happened.

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<v Speaker 1>It was about time, in fact, it was long overdue,

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<v Speaker 1>and the ninety Niners journey would not be possible without

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<v Speaker 1>another group of talented and undaunted women the first US

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<v Speaker 1>women's national team. We tell their story on the next

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<v Speaker 1>episode of The Thread. The US looked like they were

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<v Speaker 1>playing in their first ever games, and that's how the

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<v Speaker 1>results went. And there were a few upsides to even

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<v Speaker 1>being on the team. The players on the early national

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<v Speaker 1>teams were not doing it to be famous or get

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<v Speaker 1>rich or be on TV, because those things were even

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<v Speaker 1>possibilities yet. But they had something more valuable. They had

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<v Speaker 1>a deep love of the game and they were willing

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<v Speaker 1>to sacrifice everything for it. It was choosing between doing

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<v Speaker 1>something you love to playing soccer, or building a career

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<v Speaker 1>and actually making a living and having money. That was

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<v Speaker 1>the choice that the players had to make. To be

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<v Speaker 1>the change you want to see, and don't threat to

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