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Speaker 1: This is what happens when I have a friend on

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Speaker 1: the podcast. We just dive right in. Welcome back to

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Speaker 1: the Give Them All a Podcast. I have a dear

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Speaker 1: friend of mine, Kristen Dody, and I love that she.

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Speaker 1: She just rolled in here looking sheaic as fuck and

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Speaker 1: it's like said something about diarrhea, and I was like,

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Speaker 1: she was walking down the hall, I hear it. She

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Speaker 1: comes in the office. I was like, hold up, you

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Speaker 1: have diarrhea, but you're.

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Speaker 2: Ever say I might have COVID and walking into your

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Speaker 2: office and saying I have diarrhea. I do not have diarrhea.

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Speaker 2: I would admit if I did to you.

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Speaker 1: Okay, good because I'm y old, like thin right now,

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Speaker 1: trying to pack on the pounds. So anything that's going

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Speaker 1: to make me have diarrhea or throw up, I just

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Speaker 1: can't afford it.

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Speaker 2: My my friend, my Luke, who my my co host

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Speaker 2: on my podcast.

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Speaker 3: Your podcast, Sex Love and What Else Matter with Kristin Dodie.

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Speaker 2: Because nothing else does it really doesn't. Luke left town yesterday.

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Speaker 2: He's been in la He lives in Colorado. He left

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Speaker 2: town yesterday to go home and handle some shit. And

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Speaker 2: while he's handling his shit, I'm handling his German shepherd's shit.

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Speaker 2: I'm telling you, I think getting harder than a baby.

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Speaker 2: What do you think you have a one? I don't.

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Speaker 2: I feel like a human would never make me feel that,

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Speaker 2: like stressed out, because it's like, but it's my baby,

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Speaker 2: Like yeah, it's streussful. I'll tell you sitting and stuff,

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Speaker 2: but it's my purse, it's my little baby.

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Speaker 1: One percent. Your baby is like your baby, and I'm

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Speaker 1: sure there are people out there. Your dog is like

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Speaker 1: who don't have a connection to children and their dogs

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Speaker 1: really are their babies. As someone who has always wanted

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Speaker 1: and I've said to her, said to Lily even when

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Speaker 1: Like there's just no possible way. And then yeah, ocean

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Speaker 1: like slip and slide it out of my vagina, and

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Speaker 2: I know, and I was I listened. I was listening

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Speaker 2: to your last podcast when Easton came back on with

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Speaker 2: you guys, and in the very beginning, you said I

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Speaker 2: wish everyone could experience my baby, and I'm like, I

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Speaker 3: Took selfie video that ocean took his and I immediately

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Speaker 3: wrote you and I said, I have one of those

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Speaker 2: You do, And she's like holding the phone up like

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Speaker 1: Actually she's seen that evil from No It's incredible.

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Speaker 3: Kyle saw that on my phone and he said, did

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Speaker 4: And I said, yeah, she does. He's at wait, he

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Speaker 4: like was shocked. He's like, no, she's a genius.

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Speaker 2: She is? Is she?

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Speaker 1: I don't know, but like last night, Okay, So she

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Speaker 1: And she's a tiny little tot, but she's keeping like

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Speaker 1: bitty babies or whatever from American Girl. You can get

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Speaker 1: all the little stuff and there's diaper rash cream. And

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Speaker 4: Is she's sucking genius? She actually is.

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Speaker 1: Back to what I was going to say about the dogs.

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Speaker 1: I feel like dogs actually are harder. And here's why.

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Speaker 1: about that because I was there when you became a homeowner.

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Speaker 1: I was there when you sold your home, and we

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Speaker 1: I didn't like it as like a going away party.

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Speaker 2: But it was not the new beginning I was looking for.

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Speaker 2: We're in similar positions, although very not but still having

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Speaker 1: But you know what I really and situations are are relative,

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Speaker 1: Like who is one to judge which is more painful

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Speaker 2: But I mostly just like sat there just staring at everything,

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Speaker 2: want for it? That's amazing? Do you realize I need it?

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Speaker 1: You're manifesting right now on this podcast, And I believe

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I've driven by it twice. I won't do it again.

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Speaker 2: They've painted it like this ugly shade of like elephant

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Speaker 2: I'm like, this house was like magical and amsicle.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, and that was was that a lot of your doing?

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Speaker 3: You said you didn't buy a turnkey house, so was

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Speaker 3: did you move in and just put all of that work.

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Speaker 2: Into the vibe? It was I bought the house because

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Speaker 2: of the vibe. Okay, I knew going in. I had

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Speaker 2: to like knock down walls, redo floors, like gut things.

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Speaker 2: It was just like with a dog, you like meet

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Speaker 2: like I knew that was my house, regardless of how

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Speaker 3: I am curious though, with your house, Kristen, do you

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Speaker 4: How long were you there?

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Speaker 2: Yeah? Oh my god, I was there two and a

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Speaker 2: I wrote my entire book in that house, in that

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Speaker 1: Yeah, like at her arriving home, it was her house,

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Speaker 2: It was just like productive totally because essentially that like

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Speaker 2: it was like we had to get out of Downtown.

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Speaker 2: I wasn't you know, we were in legit lockdown where

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Speaker 1: There's going to be seasons, and it sounds so fucking cheesy,

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Speaker 1: and until you're in experiencing seasons of life, you just

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Speaker 1: have to roll with it and go, I don't know

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Speaker 1: why the fuck this is happening, but what I do

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Speaker 1: know is nothing less forever correct, and you you in

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Speaker 1: those moments We talk about this all the time, just

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Speaker 1: and I. In those moments you choose am I sinking

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Speaker 1: or am I swimming? I like that and you fucking swam.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, and even that I'm trying water for sure.

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Speaker 1: Hey, I guess why your head is above water?

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Speaker 2: Dish. Yeah.

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Speaker 1: So whatever type of technique you're doing, it don't matter,

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Speaker 1: all right, And you have incredible people around you. And

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Speaker 1: I have to say, I don't realize, or didn't realize

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Speaker 1: how sensitive my friend Kristen is. She comes off as

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Speaker 1: a real tough bitch, like, I think you might be

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Speaker 3: Oh?

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Speaker 2: Because I don't have a baby.

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Speaker 2: Yeah you So I have to ask all the time.

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00:20:36,440 --> 00:20:38,720
Speaker 1: Correct, So I have to ask my friends who don't

439
00:20:38,760 --> 00:20:41,760
Speaker 1: have kids, like is it cool if o comes, because

440
00:20:41,760 --> 00:20:43,800
Speaker 1: it does change the dynamic of things, like I'm gonna

441
00:20:43,800 --> 00:20:45,080
Speaker 1: be running around with dinner.

442
00:20:45,000 --> 00:20:46,960
Speaker 2: Me because I'm like Jess, I don't hang out with that.

443
00:20:47,240 --> 00:20:50,640
Speaker 3: People, do you feel though, But there's sometimes where especially

444
00:20:50,840 --> 00:20:53,199
Speaker 3: visiting home, we're all to ask my friends to go

445
00:20:53,240 --> 00:20:55,320
Speaker 3: out to dinner dinner, and if they say I'm gonna

446
00:20:55,320 --> 00:20:56,080
Speaker 3: bring my baby and go.

447
00:20:56,240 --> 00:20:59,119
Speaker 4: No, no, no, no, not tonight, does it change No?

448
00:20:59,359 --> 00:21:03,119
Speaker 2: I don't, yeah, nor the But you're.

449
00:21:03,000 --> 00:21:07,119
Speaker 1: Also extremely close with Brittany and her kid is with

450
00:21:07,359 --> 00:21:10,879
Speaker 1: like they don't. I don't. They're like superheroes with Jackson Britany.

451
00:21:11,200 --> 00:21:15,000
Speaker 1: They have not a one ounce of help just the

452
00:21:15,040 --> 00:21:15,520
Speaker 1: two of them.

453
00:21:15,600 --> 00:21:16,800
Speaker 4: Brittany's mom is not.

454
00:21:16,880 --> 00:21:18,320
Speaker 2: She lives in Kentucky, Kentucky.

455
00:21:18,359 --> 00:21:20,119
Speaker 4: You always forget that. I think everyone's mom.

456
00:21:20,280 --> 00:21:23,919
Speaker 2: Only two people have ever babysat crews that are not Brittany,

457
00:21:24,160 --> 00:21:27,920
Speaker 2: not family, And it was our manager Ryan a long

458
00:21:27,960 --> 00:21:30,640
Speaker 2: time ago. Jackson Brittany had something they like absolutely had

459
00:21:30,680 --> 00:21:33,879
Speaker 2: to go to. And Ryan has a daughter who's like,

460
00:21:34,400 --> 00:21:36,639
Speaker 2: you know, like in elementary school now, and they were like, okay,

461
00:21:36,680 --> 00:21:39,000
Speaker 2: we can do this for like two hours when Cruz

462
00:21:39,080 --> 00:21:43,359
Speaker 2: was baby. And then maybe like a month ago I

463
00:21:43,400 --> 00:21:46,359
Speaker 2: got to watch Cruise. You did, Yeah, how to go what?

464
00:21:47,200 --> 00:21:49,720
Speaker 2: He literally locked himself in his baby jail with his

465
00:21:49,800 --> 00:21:53,040
Speaker 2: ipadab like never came out baby jail what is baby

466
00:21:53,320 --> 00:21:56,240
Speaker 2: the baby jail? Like it the gate, the plastic gate

467
00:21:56,320 --> 00:21:58,280
Speaker 2: thing like the gray and white one that we all

468
00:21:57,960 --> 00:22:02,040
Speaker 2: have toys, And yes I do. But literally, Jared lips

469
00:22:02,040 --> 00:22:04,639
Speaker 2: Comb and I were like sitting there watching Dancing with

470
00:22:04,640 --> 00:22:07,480
Speaker 2: the Stars. I'm like begging Cruise to be my friend,

471
00:22:07,480 --> 00:22:09,479
Speaker 2: like begging him to play with me, and he is

472
00:22:10,119 --> 00:22:13,439
Speaker 2: as interested as like a dead fly. He's just like

473
00:22:14,080 --> 00:22:16,919
Speaker 2: he's like hey, He's like uh. He'll walk out just

474
00:22:16,960 --> 00:22:19,320
Speaker 2: to be like I want water or I'd be like,

475
00:22:19,359 --> 00:22:21,240
Speaker 2: do you want your bottle? You want this? You want

476
00:22:21,240 --> 00:22:24,040
Speaker 2: a snack? Cool? And he would just take whatever I

477
00:22:24,080 --> 00:22:26,239
Speaker 2: gave him and go right back into baby jail with

478
00:22:26,320 --> 00:22:29,920
Speaker 2: his iPad in his blanky for like three hours. I'm

479
00:22:29,960 --> 00:22:31,560
Speaker 2: like Cruise, like, do you want to play?

480
00:22:32,400 --> 00:22:36,399
Speaker 1: Given his money as a kid to have Kristen Jonie

481
00:22:36,960 --> 00:22:38,400
Speaker 1: and Jared lips.

482
00:22:38,200 --> 00:22:39,440
Speaker 2: Be my babysitter.

483
00:22:39,560 --> 00:22:41,879
Speaker 1: Yeah, now that's a fucking vibe.

484
00:22:41,880 --> 00:22:43,880
Speaker 4: Cruise has no idea what he missed out on.

485
00:22:44,359 --> 00:22:47,199
Speaker 2: No, but I had Brittany feel like every three seconds like,

486
00:22:47,320 --> 00:22:49,800
Speaker 2: how's he doing? Is everything okay? I'm like Brittany, literally

487
00:22:49,840 --> 00:22:53,840
Speaker 2: he will not play with me. He's doing great. He's

488
00:22:53,920 --> 00:22:57,600
Speaker 2: so independent. Now Yeah, he just wants to watch his

489
00:22:57,640 --> 00:23:01,200
Speaker 2: Mickey Mouse and like sip on his is like apple juice.

490
00:23:01,000 --> 00:23:03,960
Speaker 1: Or No, you're a great aunt. Yeah, you're an amazing aunt.

491
00:23:04,160 --> 00:23:08,400
Speaker 2: So Mary like this, Well, your mom mostly watches Ocean.

492
00:23:08,720 --> 00:23:10,920
Speaker 2: Like when I went to Brittany and this is Brittany,

493
00:23:11,000 --> 00:23:13,760
Speaker 2: I'm gonna be there for two three hours max, right, Okay.

494
00:23:14,000 --> 00:23:16,080
Speaker 2: I walk in. She has three bottles of milk in

495
00:23:16,119 --> 00:23:19,879
Speaker 2: the fridge, two giant things of the lemonade that she

496
00:23:19,960 --> 00:23:22,240
Speaker 2: mixes his water with. Okay, and then all these bottles

497
00:23:22,280 --> 00:23:25,159
Speaker 2: of water. She's like, this is all here. I'm like, Brittany,

498
00:23:25,200 --> 00:23:26,960
Speaker 2: you really think he's gonna drink like two gallons of

499
00:23:27,000 --> 00:23:30,160
Speaker 2: lemonade and three bottles in the next two hours while

500
00:23:30,160 --> 00:23:30,719
Speaker 2: you're gone.

501
00:23:31,040 --> 00:23:33,320
Speaker 1: I don't know, how about I because you've washed Ocean

502
00:23:33,359 --> 00:23:34,240
Speaker 1: a few times.

503
00:23:34,520 --> 00:23:36,560
Speaker 2: Yes, you are over prepared.

504
00:23:36,760 --> 00:23:39,680
Speaker 3: Yeah that you're like you're like to me because I

505
00:23:40,040 --> 00:23:40,919
Speaker 3: used to nanny full time.

506
00:23:40,960 --> 00:23:43,520
Speaker 4: I used to babysit. You're like a majority of the mothers.

507
00:23:43,560 --> 00:23:47,680
Speaker 3: You're not too like this because I've babysat for women

508
00:23:47,720 --> 00:23:50,399
Speaker 3: who are like and five thirty, you're gonna do this

509
00:23:50,560 --> 00:23:51,480
Speaker 3: five forty five?

510
00:23:51,720 --> 00:23:53,880
Speaker 4: That's on this happen seven exactly six.

511
00:23:54,080 --> 00:23:57,119
Speaker 3: Yeah, you're like her milk's in the fridge. She's just

512
00:23:57,160 --> 00:23:59,480
Speaker 3: so easy though, And I'm like, do I heat it up?

513
00:23:59,520 --> 00:24:02,119
Speaker 4: And You're like, you're fine, very very chill.

514
00:24:02,240 --> 00:24:02,640
Speaker 1: You're chill.

515
00:24:02,680 --> 00:24:04,720
Speaker 4: You're like her milk's and the freage. You're good. If

516
00:24:04,720 --> 00:24:06,479
Speaker 4: I have a question, you know, I'm gonna call her.

517
00:24:06,520 --> 00:24:08,560
Speaker 1: Text you if she starts punching you in your face,

518
00:24:08,600 --> 00:24:13,399
Speaker 1: I mean she's tired. Yeah, I love this. This is

519
00:24:13,520 --> 00:24:16,520
Speaker 1: we go on tangents on this podcast. But back to

520
00:24:17,080 --> 00:24:19,399
Speaker 1: why you sometimes feel left out, and you were saying

521
00:24:19,600 --> 00:24:22,080
Speaker 1: it could be because maybe you're not on the show anymore.

522
00:24:22,119 --> 00:24:26,320
Speaker 1: Maybe that triggered you. Is that something that still triggers you?

523
00:24:26,359 --> 00:24:27,359
Speaker 1: Can you watch the show?

524
00:24:28,960 --> 00:24:31,639
Speaker 2: I don't know if I will this season. I feel

525
00:24:31,680 --> 00:24:35,920
Speaker 2: like I can last year last season, I watched two episodes.

526
00:24:36,080 --> 00:24:38,320
Speaker 2: One I watched with Katie. I went over Katie's how

527
00:24:38,400 --> 00:24:41,320
Speaker 2: she was like dying my hair for me and was

528
00:24:41,359 --> 00:24:45,320
Speaker 2: it the finale I think or something. And I watched

529
00:24:45,400 --> 00:24:48,239
Speaker 2: like one other episode and that was it. I was like,

530
00:24:48,400 --> 00:24:51,480
Speaker 2: I'm good, Like I want to watch to support my

531
00:24:51,640 --> 00:24:55,240
Speaker 2: friends that are on it, but like I just it's fomo.

532
00:24:55,960 --> 00:24:58,320
Speaker 2: You have fomo but then at the same time, it's

533
00:24:58,600 --> 00:25:00,720
Speaker 2: kind of like a like back and fourth thing because

534
00:25:00,760 --> 00:25:02,520
Speaker 2: at the same time when I did what I did

535
00:25:02,560 --> 00:25:05,520
Speaker 2: see didn't feel like the show I was on, so

536
00:25:05,560 --> 00:25:07,280
Speaker 2: then it didn't. It's completely different.

537
00:25:07,800 --> 00:25:11,760
Speaker 1: It's a completely different show. Yeah, you know, you can't

538
00:25:11,880 --> 00:25:15,120
Speaker 1: lose even though we're all friends, Like, let's just call

539
00:25:15,160 --> 00:25:19,680
Speaker 1: it what it is. We lost like key fucking players, right,

540
00:25:19,800 --> 00:25:22,359
Speaker 1: Like you brought something that will never be able to

541
00:25:22,400 --> 00:25:25,719
Speaker 1: replace Jack's. We will never be able to replace all

542
00:25:25,800 --> 00:25:29,680
Speaker 1: day winners, right, all all day yeah OG's from the job.

543
00:25:29,800 --> 00:25:32,960
Speaker 1: Yeah right, So we did have to go into the show,

544
00:25:33,080 --> 00:25:37,600
Speaker 1: and for me personally, I was like, I'm going to

545
00:25:37,720 --> 00:25:40,119
Speaker 1: be grateful that we get a season nine, but I'm

546
00:25:40,119 --> 00:25:43,719
Speaker 1: definitely not banking that we will continue. Like this is

547
00:25:43,760 --> 00:25:48,000
Speaker 1: going to be most likely a farewell because the show

548
00:25:48,119 --> 00:25:50,679
Speaker 1: just looks different, and I don't know that the people

549
00:25:50,720 --> 00:25:54,160
Speaker 1: that are left if they're able to carry a fucking show,

550
00:25:54,680 --> 00:25:56,960
Speaker 1: you know, because a lot of people that are left

551
00:25:57,280 --> 00:26:00,000
Speaker 1: they want a kumbay yah to break it to you.

552
00:26:00,240 --> 00:26:02,679
Speaker 1: These folks don't want to watch you Kumbai. Yeah, I know,

553
00:26:02,720 --> 00:26:05,719
Speaker 1: because I am an avid reality TV watcher and the

554
00:26:05,760 --> 00:26:08,760
Speaker 1: second I see someone who is Switzerland. I'm like, bitch,

555
00:26:08,760 --> 00:26:09,919
Speaker 1: you're boring. You need to be right.

556
00:26:10,080 --> 00:26:12,440
Speaker 2: I don't know, and I don't care. Don't fly right.

557
00:26:13,080 --> 00:26:14,560
Speaker 2: It's exactly it just doesn't.

558
00:26:14,680 --> 00:26:18,600
Speaker 1: So you won't watch this season because you feel triggered

559
00:26:18,600 --> 00:26:19,080
Speaker 1: by it.

560
00:26:19,119 --> 00:26:23,040
Speaker 2: A little bit? Yeah, I mean I feel like I'll

561
00:26:23,080 --> 00:26:26,119
Speaker 2: know from like either you or Katie or someone like

562
00:26:26,600 --> 00:26:29,840
Speaker 2: or even Sina, like, oh, I should watch that episode,

563
00:26:29,960 --> 00:26:32,720
Speaker 2: you know, like Sena's wedding. I was there, but I

564
00:26:32,800 --> 00:26:35,560
Speaker 2: missed a lot of it. So I'm like, I'd like

565
00:26:35,600 --> 00:26:37,400
Speaker 2: to see like some of the stuff that I missed,

566
00:26:37,480 --> 00:26:41,040
Speaker 2: or just certain moments I'll probably look at. But to

567
00:26:41,160 --> 00:26:44,320
Speaker 2: like sit there and watch as a whole season, Hell no,

568
00:26:44,840 --> 00:26:46,479
Speaker 2: I couldn't do it, you know what.

569
00:26:47,359 --> 00:26:54,120
Speaker 1: I so appreciate your honesty. It's so refreshing to have

570
00:26:54,560 --> 00:26:59,280
Speaker 1: someone say like, I'm bummed, it hurts I can't fight watch.

571
00:26:59,680 --> 00:27:02,879
Speaker 2: Yeah. No, I'm not mad about it. I'm not like

572
00:27:03,000 --> 00:27:06,840
Speaker 2: it's not all this anger anymore. And I'm not like, oh,

573
00:27:06,920 --> 00:27:10,240
Speaker 2: fuck that show I got canceled. Fuck you know no,

574
00:27:10,400 --> 00:27:12,960
Speaker 2: I'm like, I hope my friends still have a job

575
00:27:13,000 --> 00:27:15,440
Speaker 2: next year. I hope that they can find a way

576
00:27:15,480 --> 00:27:18,400
Speaker 2: to shift this. I mean obviously. What I've really hope

577
00:27:18,400 --> 00:27:20,280
Speaker 2: is that vandr Pupkints canceled, we all have a brand

578
00:27:20,280 --> 00:27:22,399
Speaker 2: new show together one day and we go back to

579
00:27:22,440 --> 00:27:27,679
Speaker 2: being one big, happy family that fights butsfunctional family for

580
00:27:27,760 --> 00:27:30,320
Speaker 2: the time being. I want you guys to all thrive

581
00:27:30,320 --> 00:27:33,840
Speaker 2: and succeed and push your brands and everything that you're

582
00:27:34,040 --> 00:27:36,879
Speaker 2: working on and using the show as a platform, because

583
00:27:36,920 --> 00:27:38,720
Speaker 2: that's what this shit is all about. We didn't do

584
00:27:38,800 --> 00:27:41,560
Speaker 2: this for shits and giggles. You know, you don't do

585
00:27:41,600 --> 00:27:46,920
Speaker 2: that show because it's a great fucking time, you know, like, yeah,

586
00:27:46,920 --> 00:27:49,200
Speaker 2: you get to hang out with your friends while filming

587
00:27:49,240 --> 00:27:51,960
Speaker 2: and entertaining people, because that's what we're all really good at.

588
00:27:52,000 --> 00:27:52,720
Speaker 2: At the end of the day.

589
00:27:52,720 --> 00:27:54,600
Speaker 1: Well, we none of us moved out to LA to

590
00:27:54,600 --> 00:27:55,840
Speaker 1: be on a reality TV show.

591
00:27:55,880 --> 00:27:56,280
Speaker 2: We did not.

592
00:27:56,680 --> 00:27:59,840
Speaker 3: But off of that, would you are you still open

593
00:27:59,880 --> 00:28:02,520
Speaker 3: to to reality TV if there was an Okay.

594
00:28:02,400 --> 00:28:03,200
Speaker 2: Yeah, definitely.

595
00:28:03,280 --> 00:28:05,879
Speaker 1: There will be a point in time where we're all

596
00:28:06,480 --> 00:28:10,359
Speaker 1: old and watching our grandkids run around, or you know,

597
00:28:11,160 --> 00:28:15,280
Speaker 1: have twelve dogs in our fabulous homes and you're sipping martinis.

598
00:28:15,320 --> 00:28:18,080
Speaker 1: And I don't think I'll be sipping martini at that

599
00:28:18,359 --> 00:28:22,840
Speaker 1: point in time. But maybe some perier where we do

600
00:28:22,920 --> 00:28:24,960
Speaker 1: get to look back and we're gonna forget about all

601
00:28:24,960 --> 00:28:25,720
Speaker 1: the other shit and go.

602
00:28:26,520 --> 00:28:29,159
Speaker 2: We were on fucking TV. Yeah, what a time in

603
00:28:29,200 --> 00:28:33,280
Speaker 2: our lives and we have this like video memory book.

604
00:28:33,720 --> 00:28:36,160
Speaker 1: Yes, not always one that I want to.

605
00:28:36,040 --> 00:28:41,680
Speaker 2: Know, minus all the falls, the drunk and crying, shitty moments,

606
00:28:42,200 --> 00:28:43,160
Speaker 2: all pushing me.

607
00:28:43,680 --> 00:28:46,600
Speaker 1: What a weird time in my life? You know that's

608
00:28:46,680 --> 00:28:50,680
Speaker 1: what That fucking drunk What was that?

609
00:28:51,120 --> 00:28:54,000
Speaker 2: No, it's just like so not you. It was like

610
00:28:54,080 --> 00:28:58,400
Speaker 2: this hard. It was a hard outer cover to protect

611
00:28:58,600 --> 00:29:00,800
Speaker 2: the sweet pea that lives within.

612
00:29:01,160 --> 00:29:03,200
Speaker 1: I've never been in a physical fight. That's why when

613
00:29:03,200 --> 00:29:04,960
Speaker 1: I pushed her, I was like did I just don't

614
00:29:05,000 --> 00:29:07,200
Speaker 1: and I ran, I ran, I was like, I've got

615
00:29:07,240 --> 00:29:12,960
Speaker 1: to get out of here before well she you not hidden?

616
00:29:13,280 --> 00:29:14,560
Speaker 1: Because I don't know.

617
00:29:15,040 --> 00:29:16,000
Speaker 4: I need to rewatch.

618
00:29:16,040 --> 00:29:17,400
Speaker 2: What is this? What season?

619
00:29:17,440 --> 00:29:18,000
Speaker 3: Did you push her?

620
00:29:18,160 --> 00:29:18,480
Speaker 2: Second?

621
00:29:18,560 --> 00:29:21,600
Speaker 1: For the very last episode, ka.

622
00:29:21,680 --> 00:29:24,600
Speaker 2: And Tom's engaged. Right after Katie and Tom's engagement.

623
00:29:24,280 --> 00:29:27,320
Speaker 1: They get engaged Jessica and we're at Lisa Vannerbump's house

624
00:29:27,400 --> 00:29:31,360
Speaker 1: with Tom and Katie's family like grandparents, and Kristen and

625
00:29:31,400 --> 00:29:34,920
Speaker 1: Stossy are giving a very heartfelt speech to that friends,

626
00:29:35,360 --> 00:29:39,520
Speaker 1: they doesn't matter. Harvelt speech to their two friends who

627
00:29:39,560 --> 00:29:45,440
Speaker 1: are now engaged who they've known forever. And my drunk ass, us,

628
00:29:45,840 --> 00:29:50,200
Speaker 1: my drunk ass, can you wrap it up? What the

629
00:29:50,240 --> 00:29:54,560
Speaker 1: fuck are you talking about? I've watched of everybody?

630
00:29:54,680 --> 00:29:55,800
Speaker 4: Can you wrap it up?

631
00:29:56,760 --> 00:29:58,600
Speaker 2: With? Like the finger curling in the air?

632
00:29:59,320 --> 00:30:04,240
Speaker 1: And then because me again, I'm like, and then cameras

633
00:30:04,480 --> 00:30:08,400
Speaker 1: shut down for us to now go film at sir.

634
00:30:09,040 --> 00:30:10,840
Speaker 1: And I see a black car and I'm broke as

635
00:30:10,840 --> 00:30:13,480
Speaker 1: a motherfucker, right. I see a black car roll up

636
00:30:14,120 --> 00:30:16,680
Speaker 1: and I was like, I'm getting in it. This car

637
00:30:16,720 --> 00:30:19,000
Speaker 1: has taking me to sir. And the guy says, are

638
00:30:19,000 --> 00:30:21,760
Speaker 1: you Chris and Dody? And I go, yep, I get in.

639
00:30:21,800 --> 00:30:26,640
Speaker 1: This bitch flies around. No, it was mortified you made

640
00:30:26,640 --> 00:30:28,040
Speaker 1: me get out, and I was like, all right, I

641
00:30:28,080 --> 00:30:31,080
Speaker 1: don't remember all We were all having a pretty fun

642
00:30:31,160 --> 00:30:33,040
Speaker 1: time at vander Pump's house, but it was just like

643
00:30:33,440 --> 00:30:36,920
Speaker 1: those moments. I know that we've I obviously have not

644
00:30:36,920 --> 00:30:39,920
Speaker 1: been through what you've been through, but I hope that

645
00:30:40,040 --> 00:30:43,120
Speaker 1: at some point in time we can look back. Because

646
00:30:43,160 --> 00:30:45,719
Speaker 1: I can't even watch old episodes like I cringe and

647
00:30:45,760 --> 00:30:47,960
Speaker 1: I feel very disgusted.

648
00:30:47,640 --> 00:30:50,320
Speaker 4: Really do you watch old episodes?

649
00:30:50,880 --> 00:30:54,480
Speaker 1: No, okay, no, no, I'll watch og of everyone else,

650
00:30:54,600 --> 00:30:57,160
Speaker 1: I'll watch I'll watch old vander Pump episodes before I

651
00:30:57,200 --> 00:30:59,320
Speaker 1: was on. I started that during COVID and I'm like,

652
00:30:59,360 --> 00:31:03,520
Speaker 1: this show is gold, but to watch myself. No, we're

653
00:31:03,560 --> 00:31:04,360
Speaker 1: gonna need a lot of.

654
00:31:04,400 --> 00:31:08,800
Speaker 2: Years, a messy, messy, messy, messy messy.

655
00:31:08,920 --> 00:31:11,680
Speaker 1: You know what's so strange is people like Dody and I.

656
00:31:11,760 --> 00:31:15,120
Speaker 1: There's no in between. You've got the rider dies or

657
00:31:15,120 --> 00:31:16,920
Speaker 1: people who want to light us on five. Yeah.

658
00:31:17,640 --> 00:31:21,920
Speaker 2: It's no like she stays just nice. She's cool, like

659
00:31:21,960 --> 00:31:24,280
Speaker 2: not at all. It's it's yeah. I kind of like

660
00:31:24,360 --> 00:31:26,760
Speaker 2: that though, I do too, because for what I am.

661
00:31:26,840 --> 00:31:29,840
Speaker 1: Yeah, and I'm not great, which is why we make

662
00:31:29,880 --> 00:31:33,000
Speaker 1: great reality TV people, because you can't be great. You

663
00:31:33,040 --> 00:31:35,840
Speaker 1: got to be black or white. You know, you got

664
00:31:35,840 --> 00:31:40,040
Speaker 1: to have an opinion, which when you guys were no

665
00:31:40,120 --> 00:31:41,920
Speaker 1: longer on the show, I felt like I had to

666
00:31:41,920 --> 00:31:44,719
Speaker 1: put all your guys's hats on. I was like, I

667
00:31:44,720 --> 00:31:47,640
Speaker 1: gotta bring Kristen Dody, I gotta pay homage to Jack's

668
00:31:47,640 --> 00:31:50,120
Speaker 1: and be the bone collector and carrier, you know.

669
00:31:50,480 --> 00:31:52,840
Speaker 2: And you really did kind of take the role of

670
00:31:52,920 --> 00:31:56,000
Speaker 2: the me of like, wait, so you guys are fighting

671
00:31:56,080 --> 00:31:58,640
Speaker 2: about what, let me insert myself to like have the

672
00:31:58,800 --> 00:32:01,760
Speaker 2: true conversation because clearly you're not having that.

673
00:32:01,640 --> 00:32:04,760
Speaker 4: Conversation like a media that's how not me.

674
00:32:04,920 --> 00:32:08,360
Speaker 2: Now, it was like Tom and Katy are fighting, and

675
00:32:08,400 --> 00:32:10,360
Speaker 2: Tom Katy don't want to talk about why they're fighting.

676
00:32:10,400 --> 00:32:12,880
Speaker 2: So Kristen is going to insert herself in the middle

677
00:32:12,920 --> 00:32:16,040
Speaker 2: of their marriage or relationship and just iron out all

678
00:32:16,080 --> 00:32:17,360
Speaker 2: the wrinkles.

679
00:32:16,920 --> 00:32:19,280
Speaker 1: Right because even though like we all want to coom

680
00:32:19,320 --> 00:32:21,800
Speaker 1: buy a, this is a fucking TV show, so let's

681
00:32:21,840 --> 00:32:22,400
Speaker 1: get it popp in.

682
00:32:22,600 --> 00:32:26,200
Speaker 3: And from a from an outsider looking in, there is

683
00:32:26,320 --> 00:32:29,120
Speaker 3: something very special and was something very special. It still

684
00:32:29,200 --> 00:32:34,320
Speaker 3: is about that group of people about all of you sees.

685
00:32:34,640 --> 00:32:36,840
Speaker 4: I'd say it was I guess season eight, season seven.

686
00:32:37,360 --> 00:32:38,520
Speaker 4: That's a special group.

687
00:32:38,560 --> 00:32:42,160
Speaker 3: There's like, you know, the reality TV producers, there's always

688
00:32:42,200 --> 00:32:44,880
Speaker 3: like they're like, we need the magic, we need this,

689
00:32:45,040 --> 00:32:47,440
Speaker 3: and that's what you might have. I mean, if I

690
00:32:47,720 --> 00:32:50,760
Speaker 3: was a you know, genius reality TV producer, I would

691
00:32:50,760 --> 00:32:52,480
Speaker 3: take that same group and go make something else, like

692
00:32:52,480 --> 00:32:55,520
Speaker 3: you said, because there's something magic about that about your

693
00:32:55,560 --> 00:33:01,840
Speaker 3: st Yeah.

694
00:32:59,120 --> 00:33:01,240
Speaker 1: So now you're in this new we'll call it new

695
00:33:01,280 --> 00:33:02,560
Speaker 1: season of life and you.

696
00:33:02,560 --> 00:33:05,680
Speaker 2: Have a Luke? What is a luke? A luke? I

697
00:33:05,720 --> 00:33:08,680
Speaker 2: would like a luke? Yeah, it. Luke's great. You've met him,

698
00:33:08,840 --> 00:33:12,240
Speaker 2: You've spent time with him. He's great with ocean Luke.

699
00:33:12,640 --> 00:33:14,320
Speaker 2: You know, it just sort of fell into my lap

700
00:33:14,360 --> 00:33:17,240
Speaker 2: after my last breakup. We I talked about this on

701
00:33:17,280 --> 00:33:19,760
Speaker 2: my first episode of my podcast, like we met or

702
00:33:19,800 --> 00:33:24,360
Speaker 2: we became friends. At my girlfriend's wedding, we walked down

703
00:33:24,400 --> 00:33:26,520
Speaker 2: the aisle together as like bridesmaid groomsman.

704
00:33:27,000 --> 00:33:28,720
Speaker 1: Oh wow, yeah, it's like a movie.

705
00:33:29,040 --> 00:33:32,000
Speaker 2: Yeah. Well, I basically once I was able to get

706
00:33:32,040 --> 00:33:34,360
Speaker 2: off my phone and stop worrying about life in Los

707
00:33:34,400 --> 00:33:38,280
Speaker 2: Angeles over that weekend in Colorado, but my phone was

708
00:33:38,320 --> 00:33:39,960
Speaker 2: actually taken away from me, which is the best thing

709
00:33:40,000 --> 00:33:40,560
Speaker 2: that could have happened.

710
00:33:40,560 --> 00:33:41,400
Speaker 1: Who took your phone from you?

711
00:33:41,560 --> 00:33:43,720
Speaker 2: Two of my friends and they're like you'll never know

712
00:33:43,760 --> 00:33:45,400
Speaker 2: who has it but one of us, And I'm like,

713
00:33:45,440 --> 00:33:47,080
Speaker 2: you know, what, what do I need it for? Like

714
00:33:47,280 --> 00:33:49,480
Speaker 2: if there's an emergency, my mom knows who to call,

715
00:33:49,600 --> 00:33:52,240
Speaker 2: Like that's all that matters right now. And then I

716
00:33:52,280 --> 00:33:56,160
Speaker 2: made Luke essentially like my handler for the weekend, and like,

717
00:33:56,240 --> 00:33:59,080
Speaker 2: so you're my groomsman, and you are going to just

718
00:33:59,160 --> 00:34:02,080
Speaker 2: make sure that I have my ship together because you're kind,

719
00:34:02,360 --> 00:34:05,440
Speaker 2: don't Yeah, And then we had sex behind a tent

720
00:34:05,800 --> 00:34:06,960
Speaker 2: and it was great at the wedding.

721
00:34:07,000 --> 00:34:07,800
Speaker 1: At the wedding.

722
00:34:09,160 --> 00:34:13,680
Speaker 2: On the ranch, the first time, she says she.

723
00:34:15,160 --> 00:34:18,759
Speaker 1: Standing up you like pushed up against like a wall

724
00:34:18,840 --> 00:34:19,200
Speaker 1: or something.

725
00:34:19,280 --> 00:34:20,440
Speaker 2: It was like behind a tent.

726
00:34:22,920 --> 00:34:26,920
Speaker 1: So were you like bent over yeah, yeehaw, dog y style.

727
00:34:27,400 --> 00:34:30,200
Speaker 2: Well, we were like in our outfits. Like he was like, oh,

728
00:34:30,239 --> 00:34:33,800
Speaker 2: do you want to come grab the dogs? I'm super

729
00:34:33,840 --> 00:34:36,400
Speaker 2: like emotional, like where are the dogs at the wedding?

730
00:34:36,719 --> 00:34:38,600
Speaker 2: Parts over? The kids are gone? Can we bring the

731
00:34:38,600 --> 00:34:41,880
Speaker 2: dogs to the reception? Like you know, six dogs on

732
00:34:41,920 --> 00:34:44,040
Speaker 2: the ranch. So he's like, okay, let's go get the dogs.

733
00:34:44,520 --> 00:34:47,440
Speaker 2: And then Jill there kissed me. Jill was there killed

734
00:34:47,440 --> 00:34:51,160
Speaker 2: the German shepherd and then he kissed me and he said,

735
00:34:51,320 --> 00:34:53,080
Speaker 2: you know, he's like I didn't think he would escalate

736
00:34:53,120 --> 00:34:54,759
Speaker 2: that quickly. I was like, coud, you don't know me

737
00:34:54,800 --> 00:34:55,320
Speaker 2: that well.

738
00:34:55,640 --> 00:34:58,520
Speaker 1: Can you do the splits? Can I what did I

739
00:34:58,760 --> 00:35:02,320
Speaker 1: know for a Can she do the splits? Split anyone

740
00:35:02,560 --> 00:35:05,560
Speaker 1: anyone who can do splits? I know you're a bag

741
00:35:05,560 --> 00:35:06,239
Speaker 1: of fun in bed.

742
00:35:07,600 --> 00:35:10,960
Speaker 2: Yeah, I was a cheerleader and I'm still flexible. I'm

743
00:35:10,960 --> 00:35:14,280
Speaker 2: like Tom Schwartz, but like a little like Tom Schwartz's body,

744
00:35:14,280 --> 00:35:16,320
Speaker 2: but just like I move a lot more. You know

745
00:35:16,360 --> 00:35:16,839
Speaker 2: what I mean?

746
00:35:17,480 --> 00:35:19,120
Speaker 4: Is Tom Schwartz flexible?

747
00:35:19,360 --> 00:35:20,040
Speaker 1: Is this what?

748
00:35:20,120 --> 00:35:22,760
Speaker 2: Able? Long and lanky?

749
00:35:23,120 --> 00:35:25,480
Speaker 4: Like the model bodies? That's what I call it. The

750
00:35:25,560 --> 00:35:27,080
Speaker 4: long lanky. It's like my sister.

751
00:35:27,160 --> 00:35:29,279
Speaker 2: It's like not really in control of it with like

752
00:35:29,320 --> 00:35:30,280
Speaker 2: not great posture.

753
00:35:31,120 --> 00:35:34,359
Speaker 1: Yeah, but the way your body is dody, like when

754
00:35:34,400 --> 00:35:36,399
Speaker 1: you have like a little tank top on without a bra.

755
00:35:36,600 --> 00:35:40,200
Speaker 1: Like the way your boobs sit, it's like very sexy.

756
00:35:40,480 --> 00:35:41,840
Speaker 2: I hope it stays that way.

757
00:35:41,960 --> 00:35:42,200
Speaker 3: You know.

758
00:35:42,239 --> 00:35:45,960
Speaker 1: Like if I start curving my shoulders, I have shoulder

759
00:35:45,960 --> 00:35:47,560
Speaker 1: blades that look like wings.

760
00:35:47,640 --> 00:35:48,200
Speaker 2: Yeah they do.

761
00:35:48,480 --> 00:35:53,040
Speaker 1: I love it, So I have to like push back

762
00:35:53,160 --> 00:35:56,720
Speaker 1: or else I'm just gonna look kind of like gollum.

763
00:35:57,280 --> 00:36:01,120
Speaker 2: I think it's so chic and like cute. It. I

764
00:36:01,160 --> 00:36:01,759
Speaker 2: really like it.

765
00:36:02,000 --> 00:36:03,399
Speaker 1: But you also liked my alf ear.

766
00:36:03,840 --> 00:36:06,239
Speaker 2: That is true, And I know I I was so

767
00:36:06,360 --> 00:36:07,680
Speaker 2: mad at her and she was going to pin her

768
00:36:07,719 --> 00:36:09,400
Speaker 2: ears and you were and I'm like, don't do it.

769
00:36:09,480 --> 00:36:10,160
Speaker 2: I love your ears.

770
00:36:10,200 --> 00:36:10,919
Speaker 4: What do you think now?

771
00:36:11,520 --> 00:36:13,359
Speaker 2: I mean, she's hot always, so I.

772
00:36:13,360 --> 00:36:14,440
Speaker 1: Love you so much.

773
00:36:14,880 --> 00:36:18,359
Speaker 4: Does Luke co host the podcast? Yeah, here's one thing.

774
00:36:18,400 --> 00:36:21,240
Speaker 4: So your podcast, what's your podcast?

775
00:36:21,239 --> 00:36:25,520
Speaker 2: All about sex and love and relationships and dating and

776
00:36:25,600 --> 00:36:29,719
Speaker 2: just a really unfiltered, really raw like for me, it was,

777
00:36:29,920 --> 00:36:32,959
Speaker 2: It's my favorite thing to talk about. Obviously, I wrote

778
00:36:33,000 --> 00:36:35,600
Speaker 2: my book He's Making You Crazy, And I don't want

779
00:36:35,600 --> 00:36:39,440
Speaker 2: to be pigeonholed sort of into that, oh hack your

780
00:36:39,480 --> 00:36:43,440
Speaker 2: boyfriend's phone like I'm thirty nine now, like I've grown. However,

781
00:36:43,560 --> 00:36:47,160
Speaker 2: I still am just so fascinated by the psychology behind

782
00:36:47,239 --> 00:36:50,680
Speaker 2: why people make the decisions that they make, the choices

783
00:36:50,719 --> 00:36:53,880
Speaker 2: that they make in their relationships. How open are people

784
00:36:54,000 --> 00:36:56,400
Speaker 2: to talking about sex and the people that aren't, Because

785
00:36:56,440 --> 00:36:59,520
Speaker 2: I firmly stand by if you can't talk about sex,

786
00:36:59,520 --> 00:37:01,919
Speaker 2: you shouldn't having it. You should And I don't mean

787
00:37:01,960 --> 00:37:04,359
Speaker 2: public wow, I don't mean you have to like air

788
00:37:04,440 --> 00:37:07,520
Speaker 2: your laundry to everybody. But I just think if you

789
00:37:07,560 --> 00:37:11,480
Speaker 2: can't communicate with your partner, like what you want, what

790
00:37:11,520 --> 00:37:14,120
Speaker 2: you like, what you don't like, why why can't you

791
00:37:14,200 --> 00:37:16,240
Speaker 2: just be honest about all that? It's such an intimate

792
00:37:16,320 --> 00:37:19,960
Speaker 2: act to be, you know, intimate and.

793
00:37:20,239 --> 00:37:22,799
Speaker 1: Have you always felt that way or is it has

794
00:37:22,800 --> 00:37:24,719
Speaker 1: it been as you've gotten older, Because.

795
00:37:24,520 --> 00:37:27,320
Speaker 2: As I've gotten older, for sure, I've always been pretty

796
00:37:27,440 --> 00:37:29,279
Speaker 2: open about it, but just not like.

797
00:37:29,480 --> 00:37:33,080
Speaker 1: Did you think did you think about sex as an

798
00:37:33,120 --> 00:37:35,240
Speaker 1: intimate moment, because as I've gotten older.

799
00:37:35,320 --> 00:37:37,200
Speaker 2: When I was younger, I did that. No, it was

800
00:37:37,320 --> 00:37:40,719
Speaker 2: like it was for fun, yeah, right, one night's stand.

801
00:37:40,800 --> 00:37:44,480
Speaker 2: Nobody now even now though, like when I especially like

802
00:37:44,600 --> 00:37:47,640
Speaker 2: after my last relationship and being single, and like it

803
00:37:47,719 --> 00:37:51,120
Speaker 2: is fine for me to sleep with people on a

804
00:37:51,120 --> 00:37:53,080
Speaker 2: first date. I can do whatever the hell I want to.

805
00:37:53,400 --> 00:37:55,879
Speaker 2: Does it make me a slut? It doesn't? Like, why

806
00:37:55,880 --> 00:37:57,560
Speaker 2: are dudes allowed to do it and we're not. It's

807
00:37:57,600 --> 00:38:00,880
Speaker 2: like that hympathy or slutshaming, which, by the way, well

808
00:38:01,440 --> 00:38:03,400
Speaker 2: that's my body. And if I want to do it,

809
00:38:03,440 --> 00:38:05,040
Speaker 2: then I will, and if I don't want too, then

810
00:38:05,080 --> 00:38:05,600
Speaker 2: I don't.

811
00:38:05,760 --> 00:38:08,280
Speaker 1: I love that you have a podcast that is talking

812
00:38:08,320 --> 00:38:11,920
Speaker 1: about that, because as much as we sit here and go,

813
00:38:12,080 --> 00:38:15,440
Speaker 1: women have moved leaps and bounds and like we can

814
00:38:15,480 --> 00:38:16,120
Speaker 1: do what men do.

815
00:38:16,239 --> 00:38:16,800
Speaker 2: No we can't.

816
00:38:17,080 --> 00:38:19,600
Speaker 1: Right, I go out and I talk about sex and

817
00:38:19,719 --> 00:38:21,960
Speaker 1: what would your daughter think? What would my daughter think

818
00:38:22,000 --> 00:38:24,680
Speaker 1: about me having consensual sex? And me talking about it.

819
00:38:24,920 --> 00:38:27,319
Speaker 1: Oh my god, I hope she'd feel empowered. That's what

820
00:38:27,320 --> 00:38:27,879
Speaker 1: I hope she would.

821
00:38:27,920 --> 00:38:31,600
Speaker 2: Yeah, exactly, like just being open and honest and vulnerable.

822
00:38:32,480 --> 00:38:34,920
Speaker 2: And I just think it's so fucking interesting and like

823
00:38:35,400 --> 00:38:39,520
Speaker 2: having Luke on respect because Luke, it was just when

824
00:38:39,520 --> 00:38:42,239
Speaker 2: we became friends and he obviously doesn't live in California.

825
00:38:42,320 --> 00:38:45,040
Speaker 2: We were We just started talking on the phone for

826
00:38:45,120 --> 00:38:48,319
Speaker 2: like hours and hours and hours a day, and I

827
00:38:48,360 --> 00:38:51,160
Speaker 2: don't even know the moment that it happened where we

828
00:38:51,160 --> 00:38:54,520
Speaker 2: were talking about our own relationships, but like his past

829
00:38:54,560 --> 00:38:59,080
Speaker 2: relationships and in full fucking detail and breaking down the

830
00:38:59,080 --> 00:39:02,360
Speaker 2: psychology of everything, and like why he was emotionally unavailable

831
00:39:02,360 --> 00:39:03,160
Speaker 2: when he was younger.

832
00:39:03,680 --> 00:39:05,160
Speaker 1: Why how old is he?

833
00:39:05,160 --> 00:39:08,640
Speaker 2: He's thirty one, he's still young, but like he's really

834
00:39:08,680 --> 00:39:10,560
Speaker 2: able to say, like, oh, yeah, I had this one

835
00:39:10,600 --> 00:39:14,280
Speaker 2: girlfriend who's on and off for four years, and essentially

836
00:39:14,320 --> 00:39:16,520
Speaker 2: he's like at times, I was just kind of using her.

837
00:39:16,560 --> 00:39:18,400
Speaker 2: I knew she was in love with me, but she

838
00:39:18,520 --> 00:39:21,080
Speaker 2: helped me with my business, she helped me watch my dogs.

839
00:39:21,320 --> 00:39:23,560
Speaker 2: She's really hot. We had great sex, and I basically

840
00:39:23,640 --> 00:39:26,680
Speaker 2: used her. And for a man to like admit that

841
00:39:27,239 --> 00:39:29,839
Speaker 2: he's not proud of it, but just yeah, that's what

842
00:39:29,880 --> 00:39:32,640
Speaker 2: I did, and now I'm I'm aware of that, and

843
00:39:32,640 --> 00:39:35,319
Speaker 2: I wouldn't treat someone like that again because I'm like,

844
00:39:35,360 --> 00:39:38,160
Speaker 2: you can't call your ex crazy when that's what you

845
00:39:38,200 --> 00:39:40,759
Speaker 2: were doing, not saying she's not crazy. I don't know

846
00:39:40,760 --> 00:39:42,279
Speaker 2: the girl, I don't know any of these people, but

847
00:39:42,880 --> 00:39:45,600
Speaker 2: you have to take into consideration the position you were

848
00:39:45,640 --> 00:39:49,000
Speaker 2: putting her in totally. So that's why I'm like, you

849
00:39:49,000 --> 00:39:52,040
Speaker 2: know what, I really need you on this podcast because

850
00:39:52,080 --> 00:39:55,160
Speaker 2: I want to like paint these scenarios that we've gone

851
00:39:55,200 --> 00:39:58,480
Speaker 2: through separately together or other people have been through, and

852
00:39:58,520 --> 00:40:02,080
Speaker 2: then start bouncing off of each other because we share

853
00:40:02,400 --> 00:40:05,000
Speaker 2: very similar points of view and like morals and ethics,

854
00:40:05,040 --> 00:40:07,480
Speaker 2: but we have very different opinions about.

855
00:40:07,320 --> 00:40:09,839
Speaker 1: Or you're you're a woman, he's a man. Yeah, you're

856
00:40:09,880 --> 00:40:12,600
Speaker 1: going to have completely and he may be able to

857
00:40:12,760 --> 00:40:17,680
Speaker 1: shed light correct because I will never pretend like we

858
00:40:17,800 --> 00:40:21,480
Speaker 1: had Mike Johnson on the podcast and he's a sex coach.

859
00:40:21,520 --> 00:40:24,120
Speaker 1: He was on the Bachelorette, but I was telling him

860
00:40:24,120 --> 00:40:27,879
Speaker 1: what I crave in a relationship is transparency and consistency.

861
00:40:28,239 --> 00:40:30,480
Speaker 1: So if you are going to be in and out,

862
00:40:30,640 --> 00:40:34,680
Speaker 1: be in and out consistently. Okay, don't expect anything from me,

863
00:40:34,760 --> 00:40:37,640
Speaker 1: because I've now created the boundary. You have been transparent

864
00:40:37,760 --> 00:40:39,520
Speaker 1: letting me know you're going to pop in and out,

865
00:40:39,520 --> 00:40:42,200
Speaker 1: and we're just fucking guess what. Great, I know what

866
00:40:42,239 --> 00:40:45,120
Speaker 1: to expect exactly. But when you come into my space

867
00:40:45,400 --> 00:40:47,719
Speaker 1: and you start trying to win over my heart and

868
00:40:47,800 --> 00:40:50,280
Speaker 1: have me let my guard down, and then you expect

869
00:40:50,320 --> 00:40:52,680
Speaker 1: me to flip the switch when you're ready to just

870
00:40:52,719 --> 00:40:54,839
Speaker 1: have it be a fuck, I can't go there.

871
00:40:54,960 --> 00:40:57,879
Speaker 2: No, hell no. It's like Luke and I've talked about

872
00:40:57,880 --> 00:41:02,680
Speaker 2: the difference between ghosting or like leaving someone unread is

873
00:41:02,719 --> 00:41:05,520
Speaker 2: what he calls it. If it's like I talked about

874
00:41:05,520 --> 00:41:07,520
Speaker 2: this guy that I dated or not dated, but it

875
00:41:07,680 --> 00:41:09,640
Speaker 2: like I was hooking up with or tried to hook

876
00:41:09,719 --> 00:41:11,319
Speaker 2: up with whatever, and I'm like yeah, and then this

877
00:41:11,400 --> 00:41:13,799
Speaker 2: guy was like all up my ass for like this

878
00:41:13,960 --> 00:41:16,480
Speaker 2: many days and then flaked on me when we were

879
00:41:16,480 --> 00:41:19,160
Speaker 2: supposed to hang out and then just like stop texting

880
00:41:19,200 --> 00:41:21,080
Speaker 2: me back. And Luke's like, no, that's not really ghosting, though,

881
00:41:21,120 --> 00:41:23,000
Speaker 2: it's like leaving you on red. And now I'm learning

882
00:41:23,040 --> 00:41:24,960
Speaker 2: about this thing called bread crumbing, which is kind of

883
00:41:24,960 --> 00:41:27,560
Speaker 2: what you're talking about. Okay, what is that where it's

884
00:41:27,600 --> 00:41:29,440
Speaker 2: like I'm going to leave you these little crumbs, this

885
00:41:29,480 --> 00:41:32,040
Speaker 2: little trail. I'm gonna give you everything you want and

886
00:41:32,040 --> 00:41:34,319
Speaker 2: then I'm gonna flip this. Yeah, it's just like, oh

887
00:41:34,400 --> 00:41:37,360
Speaker 2: now I'm not around anymore. Like, no, that doesn't fucking

888
00:41:37,400 --> 00:41:39,640
Speaker 2: work for me. Just call a spade a spade, say

889
00:41:39,680 --> 00:41:41,160
Speaker 2: it is what it is. If you just want to

890
00:41:41,160 --> 00:41:44,400
Speaker 2: sleep together or like hang out casually, then just say that.

891
00:41:45,080 --> 00:41:47,480
Speaker 2: I'm like, I'm thirty nine fucking years old.

892
00:41:47,719 --> 00:41:50,960
Speaker 1: Yeah, I know exactly what you mean. And back in

893
00:41:51,000 --> 00:41:53,239
Speaker 1: the day, I remember my friends would come to me,

894
00:41:53,440 --> 00:41:56,839
Speaker 1: or I would not so much because that movie. He's

895
00:41:56,920 --> 00:41:59,759
Speaker 1: just not that into you really resonating with me. So

896
00:42:00,160 --> 00:42:02,719
Speaker 1: it back in the day, my friends would come to

897
00:42:02,760 --> 00:42:05,120
Speaker 1: me and they'd say, he's not texting me back. I

898
00:42:05,120 --> 00:42:07,640
Speaker 1: don't understand. And I was like, that's he doesn't need

899
00:42:07,719 --> 00:42:09,719
Speaker 1: to tell you he's not interested. He is telling you

900
00:42:09,760 --> 00:42:14,520
Speaker 1: he's not interested. But as I get older, I don't

901
00:42:14,520 --> 00:42:18,080
Speaker 1: have time for that. You can't reel me in and

902
00:42:18,160 --> 00:42:22,360
Speaker 1: then ghost because I'm a grown up and a mother

903
00:42:22,520 --> 00:42:25,160
Speaker 1: and I need this thing called closure because I'm a

904
00:42:25,200 --> 00:42:28,800
Speaker 1: communicator and I find that everything wrong in the world

905
00:42:28,880 --> 00:42:34,520
Speaker 1: is because there's no community communication. There's no communication, and

906
00:42:34,560 --> 00:42:37,759
Speaker 1: there's also no like we may not agree, but like

907
00:42:37,800 --> 00:42:42,200
Speaker 1: we gotta respect. I respect that you're not interested anymore, right,

908
00:42:42,239 --> 00:42:43,840
Speaker 1: but just like lay it out for me.

909
00:42:44,040 --> 00:42:46,480
Speaker 2: Yeah, just be fucking honest and let's just move on

910
00:42:46,800 --> 00:42:49,560
Speaker 2: and stop wasting precious time that we have on this

911
00:42:49,600 --> 00:42:50,839
Speaker 2: goddamn earth.

912
00:42:50,600 --> 00:42:52,200
Speaker 1: Right, because then I'm sitting here and I'm making up

913
00:42:52,239 --> 00:42:52,880
Speaker 1: a fucking.

914
00:42:52,600 --> 00:42:55,720
Speaker 2: Story in my head that's the story of my life.

915
00:42:55,800 --> 00:42:57,759
Speaker 2: And I say it went all the time, because when

916
00:42:57,800 --> 00:43:03,520
Speaker 2: you don't have answers to questions that you were asking bluntly, honestly, truly, vulnerably,

917
00:43:04,560 --> 00:43:06,560
Speaker 2: you have no choice but to start making up these

918
00:43:06,600 --> 00:43:09,120
Speaker 2: scenarios in your head that are probably so far from

919
00:43:09,160 --> 00:43:12,640
Speaker 2: the truth totally. And then that's viral. And that's based

920
00:43:12,680 --> 00:43:15,160
Speaker 2: on everything that you've gone through with your past people

921
00:43:15,880 --> 00:43:17,600
Speaker 2: when you grew up like you, that is what you

922
00:43:17,600 --> 00:43:22,720
Speaker 2: are conditioned to believe at this point. So guys, stop

923
00:43:22,760 --> 00:43:25,440
Speaker 2: fucking around, Just be honest, Just be honest.

924
00:43:25,520 --> 00:43:29,440
Speaker 1: And I would almost rather be alone forever then have

925
00:43:29,520 --> 00:43:34,960
Speaker 1: someone come into my world who breadcrumbs me or is dishonoring.

926
00:43:34,239 --> 00:43:35,920
Speaker 2: This tug of war with yours.

927
00:43:36,600 --> 00:43:38,800
Speaker 1: Leave me alone, Like, I'm good on my own, dude,

928
00:43:38,800 --> 00:43:40,760
Speaker 1: I don't need you to come in and give me anything.

929
00:43:40,800 --> 00:43:43,520
Speaker 1: In fact, you're just like adding a lot of chaos

930
00:43:43,800 --> 00:43:44,200
Speaker 1: into my.

931
00:43:44,200 --> 00:43:47,040
Speaker 2: Life, chaos and stress and just unneeded bullshit. Like the

932
00:43:47,080 --> 00:43:50,520
Speaker 2: way to my vagina is through my heart. Be a

933
00:43:50,560 --> 00:43:54,040
Speaker 2: good dude, and like you're gonna get laid. Just be

934
00:43:54,080 --> 00:43:54,560
Speaker 2: a good dude.

935
00:43:54,760 --> 00:43:59,000
Speaker 1: Yeah, because I'm in the season. Vagina is my heart. Yeah,

936
00:43:59,200 --> 00:44:02,160
Speaker 1: I ain't passing this good good around and just anybody.

937
00:44:02,800 --> 00:44:05,200
Speaker 1: All right, there may be a new season where that

938
00:44:05,400 --> 00:44:07,200
Speaker 1: is offered, but right now.

939
00:44:07,560 --> 00:44:09,600
Speaker 2: Right, but that's but that's up to you.

940
00:44:09,960 --> 00:44:13,440
Speaker 1: Yes, do you still consider yourself single? Or like, what

941
00:44:13,440 --> 00:44:15,520
Speaker 1: what is happening with your co host? Is he just

942
00:44:15,560 --> 00:44:16,160
Speaker 1: a co host?

943
00:44:16,239 --> 00:44:21,840
Speaker 2: We haven't are I haven't talked about this in my

944
00:44:21,920 --> 00:44:23,239
Speaker 2: Vagina co hosting.

945
00:44:23,000 --> 00:44:25,640
Speaker 1: Okay, they're also we're all okay, so you're in a

946
00:44:25,680 --> 00:44:27,480
Speaker 1: co hosting relationship.

947
00:44:27,000 --> 00:44:29,959
Speaker 2: Yeah, and we haven't, Like I haven't. We literally haven't

948
00:44:29,960 --> 00:44:31,759
Speaker 2: talked about this on the podcast yet. We've talked about

949
00:44:31,760 --> 00:44:37,200
Speaker 2: sleeping together and all of that, but but relationship, yeah,

950
00:44:37,200 --> 00:44:40,680
Speaker 2: we haven't. We have there's no label. But he's like

951
00:44:40,800 --> 00:44:41,680
Speaker 2: okay with that?

952
00:44:42,239 --> 00:44:43,200
Speaker 1: Are you okay with that too?

953
00:44:43,440 --> 00:44:47,120
Speaker 2: It's my choice, okay, but like we're dating, Yeah.

954
00:44:46,800 --> 00:44:49,759
Speaker 1: I love that. So you haven't even ventured into conversations

955
00:44:49,760 --> 00:44:51,640
Speaker 1: about you don't live here, what's the game?

956
00:44:51,840 --> 00:44:54,040
Speaker 2: No, But he just it's like he knows, I'm not

957
00:44:54,040 --> 00:44:55,759
Speaker 2: sleeping with anyone else. I'm not going on dates with

958
00:44:55,760 --> 00:44:57,879
Speaker 2: anyone else. So essentially I think it is what it is.

959
00:44:57,960 --> 00:45:02,440
Speaker 2: But but he's fine with the fact that I haven't

960
00:45:02,480 --> 00:45:05,200
Speaker 2: been quite ready to say, like I'm checking the box.

961
00:45:05,239 --> 00:45:07,600
Speaker 2: You're my boyfriend like this.

962
00:45:07,800 --> 00:45:10,600
Speaker 1: It's so strange because you talking about it, you're very

963
00:45:10,680 --> 00:45:13,839
Speaker 1: much from an outside perspective in a relationship. But just

964
00:45:14,000 --> 00:45:18,560
Speaker 1: that little conversation about the label really does change everything.

965
00:45:18,760 --> 00:45:23,080
Speaker 2: It does for me because like the last relationship I

966
00:45:23,120 --> 00:45:25,680
Speaker 2: was in, the last two relationships I was in, I

967
00:45:25,800 --> 00:45:28,760
Speaker 2: was like, this is my person. Well, I'll say with Carter,

968
00:45:28,880 --> 00:45:32,080
Speaker 2: I was like, this is my person forever, forever, forever, right,

969
00:45:32,840 --> 00:45:35,320
Speaker 2: And I stand by that. I think if Carter and

970
00:45:35,360 --> 00:45:37,879
Speaker 2: I didn't have the issues that we had, which were

971
00:45:37,880 --> 00:45:41,160
Speaker 2: all aired on the show, I think we could have

972
00:45:41,200 --> 00:45:43,800
Speaker 2: been something really great. That's the way that the world

973
00:45:43,840 --> 00:45:45,640
Speaker 2: took us. I still have a lot of love, a

974
00:45:45,640 --> 00:45:48,160
Speaker 2: lot of respect for him. He's in a happy relationship,

975
00:45:48,239 --> 00:45:51,640
Speaker 2: we're friends. Then when I started dating my ex boyfriend,

976
00:45:52,560 --> 00:45:55,960
Speaker 2: I put all of my eggs into that fucking basket.

977
00:45:56,200 --> 00:45:59,360
Speaker 2: And in hindsight, I mean, I cared about it, and

978
00:45:59,400 --> 00:46:00,960
Speaker 2: I'm not going to be a dick and say like

979
00:46:01,040 --> 00:46:04,440
Speaker 2: fuck him, I never loved him or something. But in hindsight,

980
00:46:04,800 --> 00:46:08,200
Speaker 2: it really was like I saw a goal and I

981
00:46:08,239 --> 00:46:10,359
Speaker 2: wanted to achieve that goal, and that goal was I'm

982
00:46:10,400 --> 00:46:13,239
Speaker 2: getting married, having a baby. I'm too old for this shit,

983
00:46:14,080 --> 00:46:16,279
Speaker 2: selling my house and moving into his house. Like let

984
00:46:16,560 --> 00:46:19,440
Speaker 2: you know, I quit smoking, thank god. But like that

985
00:46:19,600 --> 00:46:22,080
Speaker 2: was really in the moment. It was more of a

986
00:46:22,760 --> 00:46:24,880
Speaker 2: I need to please him, to prove to him that

987
00:46:24,920 --> 00:46:27,799
Speaker 2: I'm ready to get pregnant, and I'm really glad that

988
00:46:27,840 --> 00:46:29,879
Speaker 2: I did it for me at the end of the day.

989
00:46:30,200 --> 00:46:33,280
Speaker 2: But it was just like, no matter all the fighting

990
00:46:33,640 --> 00:46:35,160
Speaker 2: that he and I went through and all of the

991
00:46:35,239 --> 00:46:38,560
Speaker 2: chaos and all the bullshit, I just kept going, It's okay,

992
00:46:38,760 --> 00:46:40,920
Speaker 2: We're gonna be okay. Once we get pregnant, once we

993
00:46:40,960 --> 00:46:43,080
Speaker 2: get married, everything's going to be okay. I'm going to

994
00:46:43,120 --> 00:46:46,120
Speaker 2: be the person he wants me to be. And that

995
00:46:46,280 --> 00:46:49,160
Speaker 2: was like a huge fucking mistake. So I'm very grateful

996
00:46:49,320 --> 00:46:52,200
Speaker 2: that he broke up with me. I have to be,

997
00:46:52,200 --> 00:46:55,000
Speaker 2: because it was like when I dated Tom Sandobal, even

998
00:46:55,040 --> 00:46:56,920
Speaker 2: though I was really young, I would have stayed in

999
00:46:56,960 --> 00:47:00,759
Speaker 2: that till the bitter fucking end, even though we were miserable.

1000
00:47:01,239 --> 00:47:03,040
Speaker 1: Do you think that was my misery?

1001
00:47:04,000 --> 00:47:06,680
Speaker 2: I think at times I have been and I think

1002
00:47:06,719 --> 00:47:12,160
Speaker 2: I'm finally like I've found my zenet and yeah, and

1003
00:47:12,320 --> 00:47:15,520
Speaker 2: like I when Luke and I became good friends, and

1004
00:47:15,600 --> 00:47:18,200
Speaker 2: just realizing like there is there are men out there

1005
00:47:18,239 --> 00:47:20,640
Speaker 2: who are not assholes.

1006
00:47:20,120 --> 00:47:22,160
Speaker 1: Who are normal, who are going to create like a

1007
00:47:22,160 --> 00:47:23,640
Speaker 1: safe space for you be your best right.

1008
00:47:23,800 --> 00:47:25,120
Speaker 2: And not to say that Luke and I have never

1009
00:47:25,160 --> 00:47:29,840
Speaker 2: gotten in an argument or like whatever before, because we have,

1010
00:47:29,920 --> 00:47:33,120
Speaker 2: and we've been on road trips together sixteen hours where

1011
00:47:33,239 --> 00:47:37,680
Speaker 2: we've ruffled each other's feathers. But just because one of

1012
00:47:37,760 --> 00:47:41,160
Speaker 2: us pops off, it doesn't mean like shit hit the fan,

1013
00:47:41,320 --> 00:47:43,160
Speaker 2: it's the end of the world for the rest of

1014
00:47:43,200 --> 00:47:45,520
Speaker 2: the day. Now we're going to fight for three days.

1015
00:47:45,600 --> 00:47:48,239
Speaker 2: It's like, take a breath, let's talk it out. Why

1016
00:47:48,239 --> 00:47:52,200
Speaker 2: did we have that moment? Apologize and move the fuck on.

1017
00:47:52,680 --> 00:47:53,320
Speaker 2: And it's an.

1018
00:47:53,160 --> 00:47:55,480
Speaker 1: Adult it's an adult relationship.

1019
00:47:55,480 --> 00:47:58,600
Speaker 2: It is so relaxing. It's like the elephant, and I

1020
00:47:58,640 --> 00:48:01,520
Speaker 2: just feel protected. I feel safe. I feel like my

1021
00:48:01,560 --> 00:48:05,200
Speaker 2: best interests are looked out for. I love all of it.

1022
00:48:05,320 --> 00:48:08,279
Speaker 2: And he's very patient and he knows that he knows

1023
00:48:08,320 --> 00:48:11,160
Speaker 2: all the shit. Like what is the Marilyn Monroe quote, like,

1024
00:48:11,400 --> 00:48:13,120
Speaker 2: you don't if you can't handle me at my worst,

1025
00:48:13,120 --> 00:48:15,919
Speaker 2: you don't deserve me at my best. Absolutely, And I'm

1026
00:48:15,960 --> 00:48:19,600
Speaker 2: not one to be like, here's all my trauma, now

1027
00:48:19,680 --> 00:48:23,160
Speaker 2: you take that baggage. However, I am one to say

1028
00:48:23,719 --> 00:48:25,560
Speaker 2: there's a lot of shit you might find out about

1029
00:48:25,600 --> 00:48:27,480
Speaker 2: me based on the job that I used to have.

1030
00:48:27,760 --> 00:48:29,360
Speaker 2: So let me just lay it out for you. And

1031
00:48:29,400 --> 00:48:30,839
Speaker 2: if you want to run, run now.

1032
00:48:31,320 --> 00:48:34,200
Speaker 1: Well, he I feel like anybody who is with you,

1033
00:48:34,200 --> 00:48:36,960
Speaker 1: you me, any woman. I don't need to lay my

1034
00:48:37,040 --> 00:48:39,799
Speaker 1: baggage out and my trauma for you. As the relationship

1035
00:48:39,880 --> 00:48:43,880
Speaker 1: goes on, you're gonna see it right like, you're gonna

1036
00:48:44,040 --> 00:48:46,920
Speaker 1: we're gonna we're gonna have fights, we're gonna do all

1037
00:48:46,960 --> 00:48:49,560
Speaker 1: of these little things where I'm triggered, and you're gonna know, Okay,

1038
00:48:49,640 --> 00:48:51,959
Speaker 1: that is a trauma for her right, so.

1039
00:48:52,280 --> 00:48:55,799
Speaker 2: But exactly, but like he's he gets that and he's

1040
00:48:55,840 --> 00:48:58,959
Speaker 2: okay with that, just as like a normal human being

1041
00:48:59,080 --> 00:49:01,400
Speaker 2: should be as long as you going back to what

1042
00:49:01,440 --> 00:49:05,440
Speaker 2: you said, huge moment, have communication, as long as you

1043
00:49:05,480 --> 00:49:09,520
Speaker 2: can fucking talk about it, break it down, set boundaries

1044
00:49:10,440 --> 00:49:14,080
Speaker 2: like he's you know, like you always words are hard,

1045
00:49:14,920 --> 00:49:18,480
Speaker 2: take out the things on you, take things out on

1046
00:49:18,480 --> 00:49:20,239
Speaker 2: the people that are closest to you. That is just

1047
00:49:20,280 --> 00:49:22,759
Speaker 2: like a fact, right, It shouldn't really be that way,

1048
00:49:22,880 --> 00:49:24,600
Speaker 2: but it's the person that you feel the most connected

1049
00:49:24,600 --> 00:49:26,879
Speaker 2: with that you can complain shit, complain about shit too,

1050
00:49:27,400 --> 00:49:30,440
Speaker 2: And I think that in a healthy relationship. What I'm

1051
00:49:30,480 --> 00:49:34,960
Speaker 2: learning is that that is okay and it should feel

1052
00:49:34,960 --> 00:49:37,400
Speaker 2: safe and okay. But also then you kind of like

1053
00:49:37,440 --> 00:49:39,040
Speaker 2: I don't want to do that to him all the time.

1054
00:49:39,239 --> 00:49:41,600
Speaker 2: I now catch myself like taking a breath and going,

1055
00:49:41,719 --> 00:49:43,120
Speaker 2: do I really need to call him to tell him

1056
00:49:43,120 --> 00:49:45,840
Speaker 2: about this bullshit that happened to me the day, just

1057
00:49:45,840 --> 00:49:47,040
Speaker 2: to like rain on his parade.

1058
00:49:47,320 --> 00:49:49,960
Speaker 1: I'm going through the same thing right now where I'm

1059
00:49:50,000 --> 00:49:53,960
Speaker 1: literally stopping myself from like calling people to tell them

1060
00:49:54,000 --> 00:49:55,960
Speaker 1: about things, And I'm like, am I just giving this

1061
00:49:55,960 --> 00:49:59,600
Speaker 1: more life than it even means right, it's very intense.

1062
00:49:59,640 --> 00:50:02,799
Speaker 1: I'm actual really proud of us. Yeah, wow, it's all good.

1063
00:50:02,840 --> 00:50:04,240
Speaker 1: I know that we're all in this together.

1064
00:50:04,280 --> 00:50:04,480
Speaker 3: Man.

1065
00:50:04,600 --> 00:50:06,280
Speaker 2: Yes, we're evolving every day.

1066
00:50:06,440 --> 00:50:08,279
Speaker 1: I dig it. And I'm so happy that you came

1067
00:50:08,320 --> 00:50:09,200
Speaker 1: on my podcast.

1068
00:50:09,200 --> 00:50:10,520
Speaker 2: Here is the first time.

1069
00:50:11,360 --> 00:50:14,359
Speaker 1: It's the first time, and I'm I love it though,

1070
00:50:14,400 --> 00:50:18,600
Speaker 1: because your podcast it really is great. I've listened. I

1071
00:50:18,680 --> 00:50:21,640
Speaker 1: love the name. I love you have a very good voice.

1072
00:50:21,760 --> 00:50:25,239
Speaker 1: Not everyone is meant to put their voice onto a

1073
00:50:25,280 --> 00:50:28,000
Speaker 1: mic and directly into the ears. So good on you

1074
00:50:28,040 --> 00:50:30,680
Speaker 1: for that. Where can people listen to your podcast?

1075
00:50:31,000 --> 00:50:33,239
Speaker 2: You can listen to it anywhere that you listen to

1076
00:50:33,280 --> 00:50:38,120
Speaker 2: your podcasts, Spotify, Amazon, Apple, et cetera, et cetera. Sex, love,

1077
00:50:38,160 --> 00:50:39,120
Speaker 2: and what else matters.

1078
00:50:39,200 --> 00:50:40,920
Speaker 1: I'm so happy for you with.

1079
00:50:41,000 --> 00:50:43,720
Speaker 2: You and you need to come on mind you tell.

1080
00:50:43,560 --> 00:50:45,040
Speaker 1: Me you you tell me when boo boo.

1081
00:50:45,120 --> 00:50:47,759
Speaker 2: I love you because I love my favorite thing about

1082
00:50:48,120 --> 00:50:50,040
Speaker 2: not my favorite thing about you, just everything else. But

1083
00:50:50,120 --> 00:50:52,960
Speaker 2: I love Justice Instagram and how she trolls her boyfriend

1084
00:50:53,080 --> 00:50:57,239
Speaker 2: and it just gives me so much life and that

1085
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Speaker 2: that that is so important in relationships too, is like

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Speaker 2: trolling your significant other and like having that laugh and

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00:51:03,400 --> 00:51:05,719
Speaker 2: like that, like harmonious, like well play.

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Speaker 3: I'm it's like I will say, I think a lot

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Speaker 3: of people don't have the playfulness or they get to

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00:51:09,880 --> 00:51:12,680
Speaker 3: like a seriousness or like a we're adult, we're not

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00:51:12,680 --> 00:51:13,319
Speaker 3: going to act this way.

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00:51:13,360 --> 00:51:14,919
Speaker 4: And I'm like, I'm gonna be like this forever. He'll

1093
00:51:14,960 --> 00:51:15,720
Speaker 4: be like this forever.

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Speaker 1: I'm envious in the best way possible, Yes, of your

1095
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Speaker 1: relationship with Kyle. And when you tell me you're like

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Speaker 1: going home or you're to and Kyle's doing this, that

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00:51:24,600 --> 00:51:27,080
Speaker 1: and the other. You're making dinner, you're having Christmas wherever,

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00:51:27,800 --> 00:51:30,880
Speaker 1: I'm like, I want to be there. It just seems

1099
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Speaker 1: like good vibes.

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Speaker 4: Well, either of you are more than welcome.

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Speaker 2: When she bought the furniture and Kyle is like, oh

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Speaker 2: my god, ess I died bought this patio furniture. And

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00:51:40,360 --> 00:51:42,560
Speaker 2: she's like, for our kind of small patio, which isn't

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Speaker 2: mine's like half that size in my apartment now. But

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Speaker 2: he was like, it's not gonna fit. It's not gonna fit.

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Speaker 2: And she's like, well, if we just move it over

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Speaker 2: a little bit this way now, the door shuts and

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00:51:51,840 --> 00:51:54,839
Speaker 2: it's just everything, just watching them just like at each

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00:51:54,880 --> 00:51:57,080
Speaker 2: other in like the cutest way possible. I'm like, oh

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Speaker 2: my god, there's love stone in this world.

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Speaker 1: I know anything is possible. Thank you. I love you

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Speaker 1: guys so much. What a great episode And I love

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Speaker 1: you guys so much. Thank you for listening to another

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Speaker 1: episode of the Keep Them La La podcast. I will

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Speaker 1: catch you next a week next week.