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Speaker 1: Welcome to Creature future production of I Heart Radio. I'm

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Speaker 1: your host of Many Parasites, Katie Golden. I studied psychology

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Speaker 1: and evolutionary biology, and today on the show brood X.

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Speaker 1: There's often generational battles, boomers complaining about millennials, gen X

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Speaker 1: complaining about zoomers, Zoomers duking it out with boomers in

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Speaker 1: the thunder dome. But perhaps as we have our petty

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Speaker 1: generational fights, we should stop to consider what's happening under

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Speaker 1: our feet. Something is stirring. In fact, millions of some

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Speaker 1: things are stirring. Rude X is about to emerge, and

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Speaker 1: we should put aside our petty squabbles about whether millennials

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Speaker 1: eat too many avocados or zoomers do too many TikTok's

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Speaker 1: about avocados and prepare ourselves for Browed X that has

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Speaker 1: been waiting seventeen years to emerge from the ground. What

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Speaker 1: is browed X? Should we panic? Must we accept brewed

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Speaker 1: X as our new leaders? And how might we ingratiate

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Speaker 1: ourselves to them? Discover this and more to be answered.

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Speaker 1: The angel question, how is it fair that swarms of

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Speaker 1: baby turtles are considered cute, but swarms of bugs are

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Speaker 1: considered quote qualifying. Joining me today to discuss brewed X

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Speaker 1: and other mass spawning events is author of the book

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Speaker 1: Where Am I Now? Actress? An unofficial President of All Millennials.

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Speaker 1: Maura Wilson, Welcome, Thank you so much for having me.

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Speaker 1: I'm very excited to talk about this brewed X. It

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Speaker 1: sounds a lot scarier than it actually is, I think,

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Speaker 1: or is it. No, you're right, yeah, it sounds scary.

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Speaker 1: It sounds like this is our come upance as a

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Speaker 1: and we're about to face the music, the very loud music.

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Speaker 1: But no, it is. It is actually very very interesting

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Speaker 1: thing in evolutionary biology. So this browed X is a

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Speaker 1: mass cicada blue. First, I want to ask you, Morow,

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Speaker 1: how's your feelings towards cicadas. You know, I don't think

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Speaker 1: they have them where I grew up, or at least

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Speaker 1: not in the ways that they do on the East Coast,

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Speaker 1: because I they so so seventeen years so they were,

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Speaker 1: because I do remember hearing about them when I was

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Speaker 1: a teenager. Yeah, so probably when I was That was

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Speaker 1: two thousand four, so I would have been sixteen or seventeen,

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Speaker 1: and I do remember spending my summer on the East Coast,

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Speaker 1: and I think that was the first time I've ever

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Speaker 1: heard cicadas. Yeah, yeah, I think we do get So

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Speaker 1: I grew up in San Diego, and I think we

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Speaker 1: get some cicadas there, but definitely we don't get the

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Speaker 1: mass branding events that happens on the East Coast. I think, like,

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Speaker 1: maybe i'd heard them before, but I didn't know what

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Speaker 1: like I definitely I had heard cicadas and and I

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Speaker 1: two thousand and four, and I was like, what's this

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Speaker 1: And what are these like dead bodies littered on on

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Speaker 1: indifferent to them. I don't think that they're They're like

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Speaker 1: I like the sounds of crickets chirping. I don't mind

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Speaker 1: and it is a bit gross when like their corpses

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Speaker 1: it's not as much of an annoyance as like as

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Speaker 1: like coyotes are to me, or like or or like

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Speaker 1: snails or things like that where I'm like gross, you know.

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Speaker 1: But then you missed the Giant snail episode that Yeah,

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Speaker 1: oh god, snails dress me out so much. I'm sorry, Katie,

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Speaker 1: but I'm gonna have to skip that episode because I

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Speaker 1: think they're I think they're the grossest things ever. My

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Speaker 1: by snails. Yeah, so I won't tell you the story

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Speaker 1: eat garden snails. I mean that's that's you know, that's

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Speaker 1: you know what, I've eaten enough snails good. Yeah, I've

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Speaker 1: So this spring in the US, we are welcoming millions

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Speaker 1: of cicadas into the world in a mass hatching event.

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Speaker 1: is a cicada? Right? They are a very loud bug.

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Speaker 1: They are a true bug. They're like we call a

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Speaker 1: that I guess I want to be bugs. I don't know.

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Speaker 1: But it's like how there's no such thing as a

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Speaker 1: jellyfish are not fish. They're night arians. Um, We're actually

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Speaker 1: So so Cicada's true bugs. And they're actually related to leafhoppers,

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Speaker 1: those cute little leaf shaped bugs that are really good

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Speaker 1: think we did an episode on leafhoppers before. But yeah,

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Speaker 1: they are very interesting bugs, very beautiful they are. That's

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Speaker 1: like one of the things that like blows. It's it's

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Speaker 1: There are many species of cicadas and They come in

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Speaker 1: five point seven centimeters, so you know big. Yeah, I've

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Speaker 1: It to me, it sounds almost like somebody revving up

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Speaker 1: me so you'll find both the cicada corpses, which you

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Speaker 1: luxury to be discriminating because they're so many males. So

420
00:25:01,840 --> 00:25:04,880
Speaker 1: like they'll listen to these these calls and if they

421
00:25:04,960 --> 00:25:07,200
Speaker 1: like the song, like if it's it's like, yeah, that's

422
00:25:07,200 --> 00:25:10,760
Speaker 1: a that's a nice that's a nice motor revving sound. Uh,

423
00:25:10,800 --> 00:25:13,560
Speaker 1: they'll invite the mail over with the wing flicks and

424
00:25:13,600 --> 00:25:16,159
Speaker 1: then they'll mate. So I just feel like if if

425
00:25:16,160 --> 00:25:18,159
Speaker 1: you do your wing flick at like a group of guys,

426
00:25:18,200 --> 00:25:21,320
Speaker 1: who's gonna know how do they know who it is? You? No?

427
00:25:21,480 --> 00:25:23,680
Speaker 1: Not you? That guy? That guy know that one? No

428
00:25:23,800 --> 00:25:26,119
Speaker 1: that one over there, No not you. Yeah, that's a

429
00:25:26,160 --> 00:25:28,920
Speaker 1: really good question. I'm not sure. I would imagine it

430
00:25:29,000 --> 00:25:31,120
Speaker 1: may have something to do with timing, like they hear

431
00:25:31,160 --> 00:25:32,920
Speaker 1: a call and then they sort of do a wing

432
00:25:33,000 --> 00:25:36,080
Speaker 1: flick at them right after their call. But yeah, you're right,

433
00:25:36,119 --> 00:25:39,040
Speaker 1: like there must be some that's a really good question.

434
00:25:39,080 --> 00:25:41,879
Speaker 1: I wonder if there's any research onto like how they

435
00:25:42,000 --> 00:25:46,080
Speaker 1: are able to like directionally locate where the stuff is

436
00:25:46,080 --> 00:25:48,760
Speaker 1: coming from. I'm sure they probably have some a very

437
00:25:48,800 --> 00:25:53,119
Speaker 1: interesting auditory system there there. Their auditory system actually also

438
00:25:53,200 --> 00:25:56,240
Speaker 1: works as a resonance chamber, so it's like they they

439
00:25:56,400 --> 00:25:59,919
Speaker 1: have this very complex little machine apparatus. So I wouldn't

440
00:25:59,920 --> 00:26:02,760
Speaker 1: be surprised if they have some very complex way of

441
00:26:02,800 --> 00:26:07,240
Speaker 1: being able to differentiate the direction of sounds so that

442
00:26:07,240 --> 00:26:09,639
Speaker 1: that would make it easier. I mean, that's yeah, that's

443
00:26:09,680 --> 00:26:11,320
Speaker 1: a really good question. I went to theater school and

444
00:26:11,440 --> 00:26:16,679
Speaker 1: very familiar with resonators, with using your vocal resonators and

445
00:26:17,840 --> 00:26:21,040
Speaker 1: so so yes, what now what do you call me?

446
00:26:21,600 --> 00:26:25,680
Speaker 1: Just let the the using, Yeah, using, using the different parts. Yeah,

447
00:26:25,720 --> 00:26:29,240
Speaker 1: that's that's the residence is something that you know, I

448
00:26:29,520 --> 00:26:35,040
Speaker 1: admire other creatures. They're natural born actors, but they yeah,

449
00:26:35,119 --> 00:26:41,080
Speaker 1: but especially when they live and die on the stage. Yeah. Uh.

450
00:26:41,280 --> 00:26:44,200
Speaker 1: And also with like how many of them are trying

451
00:26:44,280 --> 00:26:50,960
Speaker 1: to exactly Yeah, yeah, it's true. It's true. When the

452
00:26:51,000 --> 00:26:53,119
Speaker 1: female lays the eggs will actually lay them in the

453
00:26:53,160 --> 00:26:56,960
Speaker 1: branches of trees. And then again the adults to Kato

454
00:26:57,040 --> 00:26:59,040
Speaker 1: was like, well, we had our big party, now now

455
00:26:59,200 --> 00:27:02,200
Speaker 1: we're out you and they die. Uh. And then the

456
00:27:02,440 --> 00:27:05,600
Speaker 1: when the large the the eggs hatch with this little

457
00:27:05,640 --> 00:27:10,119
Speaker 1: teeny nymph like a baby cicada. The nymphs will fall

458
00:27:10,200 --> 00:27:13,720
Speaker 1: to the ground and burrowed down a couple of feet

459
00:27:14,320 --> 00:27:17,080
Speaker 1: near the tree roots, near the plant roots, and then

460
00:27:17,119 --> 00:27:23,680
Speaker 1: they will wait another seventeen years before they emerge again. Um. Underground,

461
00:27:23,840 --> 00:27:27,160
Speaker 1: they live off the juices of the tree roots, which

462
00:27:27,240 --> 00:27:30,720
Speaker 1: is called xylem. Basically, like I said, they are tree

463
00:27:30,800 --> 00:27:36,600
Speaker 1: vampires um, and they take years to fully mature. So

464
00:27:36,640 --> 00:27:40,640
Speaker 1: they go through many stages of molting and transformations from

465
00:27:40,760 --> 00:27:44,760
Speaker 1: the nymph form, which is the young wingless stage after

466
00:27:44,840 --> 00:27:48,000
Speaker 1: hatching two adults where they have the full wings and

467
00:27:48,000 --> 00:27:51,360
Speaker 1: they're ready to party. Uh. So they slowly developed those

468
00:27:51,359 --> 00:27:54,600
Speaker 1: wings which with each molting and then once they've reached

469
00:27:54,640 --> 00:27:57,680
Speaker 1: their final stage of maturation, which is about at the

470
00:27:57,720 --> 00:28:01,000
Speaker 1: same time. Because again they were all the eggs were

471
00:28:01,080 --> 00:28:03,399
Speaker 1: laid at the same time, they all went underground at

472
00:28:03,440 --> 00:28:07,359
Speaker 1: the same time. They're all synchronized, which is incredible. Uh.

473
00:28:07,440 --> 00:28:09,959
Speaker 1: They will start to burrow upwards and they test the

474
00:28:09,960 --> 00:28:14,280
Speaker 1: temperature of the earth and once it is above about

475
00:28:14,359 --> 00:28:18,879
Speaker 1: sixty four degrees fahrenheit or eighteen degrees celsius, they're like, yep, temperatures,

476
00:28:19,000 --> 00:28:24,679
Speaker 1: right out we come. And then it happens again and

477
00:28:24,720 --> 00:28:27,480
Speaker 1: they actually leave a bunch of holes in the ground,

478
00:28:28,119 --> 00:28:30,840
Speaker 1: which for me, that's like the spookiest part it's not

479
00:28:31,000 --> 00:28:33,760
Speaker 1: seeing all the cicadas. It's like seeing the holes. Like

480
00:28:33,840 --> 00:28:37,400
Speaker 1: do you ever have you ever read a gingi eto, uh,

481
00:28:37,760 --> 00:28:40,360
Speaker 1: like his horror comics. No, I don't think I have.

482
00:28:40,640 --> 00:28:43,480
Speaker 1: But I mean that just sounds creepy. There's a horror

483
00:28:43,640 --> 00:28:46,680
Speaker 1: Mango where it's like all these human shaped holes in

484
00:28:46,720 --> 00:28:49,040
Speaker 1: a cliff face and like people like go inside and

485
00:28:49,080 --> 00:28:51,760
Speaker 1: just get sucked up. It's kind of it's just like

486
00:28:51,840 --> 00:28:54,120
Speaker 1: all these like little cicada holes. It's just it's a

487
00:28:54,200 --> 00:28:56,440
Speaker 1: little creepy. That's that. I don't know why, but that's

488
00:28:56,480 --> 00:28:58,040
Speaker 1: the part that kind of creeps me out. And it's

489
00:28:58,080 --> 00:29:01,040
Speaker 1: not it's not triple phobia. I don't have that, that's

490
00:29:01,080 --> 00:29:05,160
Speaker 1: the Yeah, it's it's not really that. I think. It's

491
00:29:05,200 --> 00:29:09,160
Speaker 1: just the knowing what they are. Like that's where like

492
00:29:09,480 --> 00:29:12,400
Speaker 1: this brood comes out from I don't know, gives me

493
00:29:12,440 --> 00:29:15,520
Speaker 1: the shivers. Um. I mean, I feel like if you

494
00:29:15,560 --> 00:29:18,800
Speaker 1: grew up in southern California or or you know, anywhere

495
00:29:18,800 --> 00:29:23,280
Speaker 1: in the Southwest, you probably holes in the ground means snakes.

496
00:29:24,320 --> 00:29:26,520
Speaker 1: So I always, you know, my dad would always say,

497
00:29:26,520 --> 00:29:29,360
Speaker 1: never put your your your hand or foot somewhere you

498
00:29:29,360 --> 00:29:32,720
Speaker 1: can't see. Yeah. No, that's a good point. Yeah, because

499
00:29:32,760 --> 00:29:35,240
Speaker 1: like I remember when I was a little kid and

500
00:29:35,720 --> 00:29:37,640
Speaker 1: I was like digging around in the dirt. I found

501
00:29:37,640 --> 00:29:39,400
Speaker 1: a hole. I was like, oh, I'll dig down in

502
00:29:39,480 --> 00:29:43,200
Speaker 1: this hole. Scorpion, scorpion, and don't you that. Yeah, don't

503
00:29:43,200 --> 00:29:45,840
Speaker 1: do that. That's why I have. I have family that

504
00:29:45,880 --> 00:29:47,840
Speaker 1: live in the desert and they're just kind of like, well,

505
00:29:47,880 --> 00:29:51,120
Speaker 1: the cat killed another scorpion today, and scorpions are so

506
00:29:51,200 --> 00:29:54,239
Speaker 1: common to them, and I'm like, I'm like, I'm like,

507
00:29:54,320 --> 00:29:57,560
Speaker 1: that's a bit overwhelming for me. Scorpions are. I think

508
00:29:57,600 --> 00:30:00,840
Speaker 1: they're fascinating and cool, but but I'm want them. I

509
00:30:00,840 --> 00:30:03,000
Speaker 1: wouldn't want them to be doing battle with my cats

510
00:30:03,160 --> 00:30:06,280
Speaker 1: or me. Yeah they're great parents. Scorpions are, but they

511
00:30:06,480 --> 00:30:09,760
Speaker 1: don't want them in my room. I've I'm like in

512
00:30:09,880 --> 00:30:12,720
Speaker 1: my parents house where I grew up, where actually I

513
00:30:12,760 --> 00:30:15,840
Speaker 1: am right now because I'm visiting my parents because the vaccine. Hey,

514
00:30:16,640 --> 00:30:20,600
Speaker 1: we're right next to sort of this arid canyon area.

515
00:30:20,840 --> 00:30:24,920
Speaker 1: And so for whatever reason that bugs loved my room.

516
00:30:25,080 --> 00:30:28,560
Speaker 1: Maybe they could sense a kindred spirit. But I would

517
00:30:28,600 --> 00:30:31,640
Speaker 1: get like scorpions would get in there, and it's like

518
00:30:31,720 --> 00:30:34,520
Speaker 1: it would only be my room for some reason, or

519
00:30:34,560 --> 00:30:36,719
Speaker 1: maybe I was the only one looking around for scorpions.

520
00:30:36,760 --> 00:30:40,280
Speaker 1: But it's scorpions. I got like a plenari in once.

521
00:30:40,320 --> 00:30:44,280
Speaker 1: It's like weird, a sort of warm thing. And I

522
00:30:44,320 --> 00:30:47,560
Speaker 1: got the you mentioned. I think it was a misnom

523
00:30:47,560 --> 00:30:50,320
Speaker 1: where you were talking about the fig beatles, but the

524
00:30:50,600 --> 00:30:53,320
Speaker 1: um but Jerusalem crickets are around here as well, So

525
00:30:53,360 --> 00:30:58,360
Speaker 1: I got got one of those. Those are creepy, uh

526
00:30:58,400 --> 00:31:01,960
Speaker 1: their faces something about I don't know, but yeah, so

527
00:31:01,960 --> 00:31:04,320
Speaker 1: so I got a bunch of weird bugs, including uh,

528
00:31:04,640 --> 00:31:08,200
Speaker 1: including scorpions, never a cicada though only heard them from

529
00:31:08,200 --> 00:31:13,320
Speaker 1: a distance. Speaking of bugs and them encroaching on us,

530
00:31:13,720 --> 00:31:16,640
Speaker 1: you may be asking, why do they do this mass

531
00:31:16,720 --> 00:31:19,720
Speaker 1: brooding event? Is it just to scare us? What's going

532
00:31:19,800 --> 00:31:23,080
Speaker 1: Is it an intimidation thing? Oh? God, why are they

533
00:31:23,120 --> 00:31:27,280
Speaker 1: doing this? So it's interesting because most cicada species aren't

534
00:31:27,320 --> 00:31:30,360
Speaker 1: like this. They don't lay in wait for seventeen years

535
00:31:30,480 --> 00:31:34,280
Speaker 1: and then emerge on mass like uh. They live for

536
00:31:34,320 --> 00:31:37,360
Speaker 1: a few years, and they have like annual mating cycles,

537
00:31:37,400 --> 00:31:43,360
Speaker 1: just typical stuff. The periodical brooding cicadas are interestingly different,

538
00:31:43,400 --> 00:31:47,160
Speaker 1: Like their whole name is based on this, this brooding

539
00:31:47,160 --> 00:31:51,640
Speaker 1: habit they're called magic cicada, which sounds like it's like

540
00:31:51,800 --> 00:31:55,840
Speaker 1: magic cicada, which is I love, But it actually comes

541
00:31:55,880 --> 00:31:59,080
Speaker 1: from the Latin may gui or magi. I think it's

542
00:31:59,160 --> 00:32:03,560
Speaker 1: magi um, yeah, which means to a great extent. So

543
00:32:03,600 --> 00:32:06,280
Speaker 1: it's basically saying like, there's a bunch of them, But

544
00:32:06,320 --> 00:32:08,680
Speaker 1: I also like to think that it's because they're magic,

545
00:32:08,760 --> 00:32:11,800
Speaker 1: just like magic cicada. Yeah. But the purpose of this

546
00:32:11,920 --> 00:32:17,320
Speaker 1: huge brood emergence is probably safety in numbers. There there

547
00:32:17,360 --> 00:32:20,520
Speaker 1: are so many of them. As an individual cicada, you're

548
00:32:20,560 --> 00:32:23,880
Speaker 1: statistically unlikely to be preyed upon in such a huge

549
00:32:24,160 --> 00:32:28,000
Speaker 1: mass of others. And it makes mating easier because you

550
00:32:28,080 --> 00:32:31,360
Speaker 1: just have one big meat and Greek party with millions

551
00:32:31,360 --> 00:32:36,600
Speaker 1: of sexy singles in your area. Exactly. It's it's what

552
00:32:36,720 --> 00:32:40,080
Speaker 1: everybody everybody like, you know, what what people be like,

553
00:32:40,120 --> 00:32:42,400
Speaker 1: you know, me and my homies. Once we get the vaccine, Yes,

554
00:32:42,600 --> 00:32:44,280
Speaker 1: of course, it's not going to be like that. It's

555
00:32:44,360 --> 00:32:48,160
Speaker 1: much more going to be like you know us slowly,

556
00:32:48,280 --> 00:32:52,800
Speaker 1: you know, climbing out of our cade where we've been hibernating. Yes,

557
00:32:53,000 --> 00:32:55,080
Speaker 1: it's it's probably not going to be as fun and

558
00:32:55,120 --> 00:32:58,440
Speaker 1: sexy as the cicadas, you know. But I didn't make

559
00:32:58,520 --> 00:33:01,240
Speaker 1: that connection until now. But you're absolutely right. It's like

560
00:33:01,280 --> 00:33:05,719
Speaker 1: a metaphor for emerging from quarantine. We're coming out of

561
00:33:05,720 --> 00:33:08,280
Speaker 1: our holes that we've been in for which feels like

562
00:33:08,360 --> 00:33:11,360
Speaker 1: seventeen years, but it's been over a year. And then

563
00:33:11,400 --> 00:33:17,320
Speaker 1: we'll probably have a mass meeting open and we should

564
00:33:17,360 --> 00:33:20,240
Speaker 1: definitely call like all the babies that happens because of

565
00:33:20,320 --> 00:33:24,200
Speaker 1: like after the quarantine one like mating, we should call

566
00:33:24,280 --> 00:33:26,840
Speaker 1: them brutex. They should be brute x. Yes, that would

567
00:33:26,880 --> 00:33:29,440
Speaker 1: be that would be a great and and yeah, that

568
00:33:29,440 --> 00:33:31,040
Speaker 1: would be a great, a great name for them, I

569
00:33:31,040 --> 00:33:35,280
Speaker 1: think babies. And they would share, they'll share. Oh and

570
00:33:35,600 --> 00:33:38,240
Speaker 1: oh my god, this is so perfect. It's like when

571
00:33:38,320 --> 00:33:40,880
Speaker 1: nature is just poetic because we're going to share a

572
00:33:40,960 --> 00:33:45,520
Speaker 1: birthday with millions of cicadas. Have a bunch of cicada

573
00:33:45,600 --> 00:33:49,880
Speaker 1: babies or like, well, I guess not exactly, because they'll

574
00:33:49,880 --> 00:33:55,600
Speaker 1: be conceived now, they'll they'll there's gonna be like quarantine

575
00:33:55,600 --> 00:33:58,160
Speaker 1: has been long enough that there are you know, conceived

576
00:33:58,160 --> 00:34:01,000
Speaker 1: in quarantine babies. That's true. That it's true. I thought

577
00:34:01,000 --> 00:34:03,840
Speaker 1: there wasn't like there was expected a baby boom, but

578
00:34:03,920 --> 00:34:07,680
Speaker 1: there wasn't because people didn't feel like having a child.

579
00:34:09,440 --> 00:34:12,120
Speaker 1: There then there might still be there might still be

580
00:34:12,320 --> 00:34:14,440
Speaker 1: in the next but yeah, but probably it was. It

581
00:34:14,520 --> 00:34:16,920
Speaker 1: was a bit too depressing. I think there's gonna I

582
00:34:16,960 --> 00:34:20,000
Speaker 1: think the celebratory we're out of quarantine baby boom is

583
00:34:20,040 --> 00:34:22,120
Speaker 1: gonna be much bigger. I mean also because I think

584
00:34:22,160 --> 00:34:24,960
Speaker 1: probably a lot of people wanted to have children and

585
00:34:24,960 --> 00:34:29,400
Speaker 1: then we're waiting until after quarantine, So like I imagine

586
00:34:29,440 --> 00:34:32,160
Speaker 1: a lot of them are going to be planned pregnancies

587
00:34:32,360 --> 00:34:35,160
Speaker 1: of like, hey, we're out of quarantine, now we can

588
00:34:35,200 --> 00:34:38,600
Speaker 1: start our families. Yeah, exactly, And so they're gonna be Yeah,

589
00:34:38,680 --> 00:34:41,440
Speaker 1: it's it's beautiful. You your babies are going to share

590
00:34:41,960 --> 00:34:45,120
Speaker 1: a special a special year with the millions of cicadas

591
00:34:45,160 --> 00:34:49,400
Speaker 1: that are also going to breathe this year. Yeah, Cicada

592
00:34:49,480 --> 00:34:54,440
Speaker 1: generation wonderful. It's just it's beautiful. It's it's like a poem.

593
00:34:54,640 --> 00:34:58,120
Speaker 1: It's it's yeah, it's they're synchronized, you know, much like

594
00:34:58,160 --> 00:35:02,480
Speaker 1: the cicadas themselves now synchronized with the cicadas. So we're

595
00:35:02,520 --> 00:35:08,879
Speaker 1: just gonna slowly become more and more cicada like. Uh so. Yeah.

596
00:35:09,080 --> 00:35:12,680
Speaker 1: Another proposed theory for why they have such a long

597
00:35:12,840 --> 00:35:16,080
Speaker 1: brooding cycle is that it makes it hard for predators

598
00:35:16,080 --> 00:35:18,719
Speaker 1: to adapt to your weird intervals. So like, if you

599
00:35:19,239 --> 00:35:23,960
Speaker 1: are only like you only emerge every seventeen years, evolutionarily,

600
00:35:23,960 --> 00:35:27,000
Speaker 1: it's kind of difficult for predators to have, Like they

601
00:35:27,000 --> 00:35:29,160
Speaker 1: don't have a lot of predators don't have a lifespan

602
00:35:29,200 --> 00:35:32,960
Speaker 1: of seventeen years, so matching up with with that and

603
00:35:32,960 --> 00:35:37,840
Speaker 1: being able to develop specific um evolutionary traits to be

604
00:35:37,880 --> 00:35:41,400
Speaker 1: able to prey upon you is harder. Although some biologist

605
00:35:41,440 --> 00:35:43,840
Speaker 1: disagree with this theory. They say, like, well, there's actually

606
00:35:43,880 --> 00:35:47,120
Speaker 1: a fungus that has developed that can specifically prey upon

607
00:35:47,200 --> 00:35:51,840
Speaker 1: these periodical cicadas, So obviously there's you know, but but

608
00:35:51,880 --> 00:35:55,680
Speaker 1: I still think that like, yeah, obviously fungus like probably

609
00:35:55,680 --> 00:35:59,719
Speaker 1: because it's under the ground and terrifying they are, Yeah,

610
00:35:59,719 --> 00:36:03,120
Speaker 1: they they there's no defeating fun guy, Like that's the

611
00:36:03,120 --> 00:36:05,920
Speaker 1: final boss. Honestly, like we we'd like to we're like, oh,

612
00:36:05,960 --> 00:36:08,879
Speaker 1: no cicadas, No cicadas. We don't have to worry about them,

613
00:36:08,960 --> 00:36:11,359
Speaker 1: fun guy, that's what we got to worry about. That's

614
00:36:11,400 --> 00:36:13,680
Speaker 1: what's that's that's the zombie virus is not gonna be

615
00:36:13,719 --> 00:36:16,400
Speaker 1: a virus is gonna be a fungus. Yeah, like the

616
00:36:16,440 --> 00:36:20,239
Speaker 1: most terrifying. Like I think about how I'll walk outside

617
00:36:20,239 --> 00:36:23,560
Speaker 1: and I'll see mushrooms pop up out of nowhere one

618
00:36:23,600 --> 00:36:26,120
Speaker 1: morning and then the next day they'll be gone, and

619
00:36:26,160 --> 00:36:28,480
Speaker 1: I'm like, how did you do that? How did you

620
00:36:28,760 --> 00:36:32,239
Speaker 1: pop up and then go away? How? It's it's I

621
00:36:32,440 --> 00:36:35,680
Speaker 1: I do not understand them. I have respect for them. Yeah,

622
00:36:35,719 --> 00:36:39,920
Speaker 1: I'm not. I'm not a fun guy expert as much

623
00:36:39,960 --> 00:36:42,759
Speaker 1: as I wish I was, But yeah, they they there's

624
00:36:42,800 --> 00:36:46,919
Speaker 1: something about room that spooks me because they're not they're

625
00:36:46,960 --> 00:36:49,799
Speaker 1: not an animal, but they're not really a plant either

626
00:36:50,400 --> 00:36:54,160
Speaker 1: or in that in between zone of spookiness. And yeah,

627
00:36:54,280 --> 00:36:59,320
Speaker 1: so especially the parasitic fungus like Court accepts. Yeah, spooky

628
00:36:59,360 --> 00:37:01,880
Speaker 1: because that goes inside and ant's brain or other insects

629
00:37:02,040 --> 00:37:06,600
Speaker 1: Mexico uh like takes over their brain, makes them climb

630
00:37:06,680 --> 00:37:10,200
Speaker 1: up a tree branch and then sprouts spores like right

631
00:37:10,239 --> 00:37:13,040
Speaker 1: out of their brain. That's what the last of us

632
00:37:13,080 --> 00:37:17,439
Speaker 1: that gave the video game about zombie apocalypse like that

633
00:37:17,440 --> 00:37:20,279
Speaker 1: that the last of the space there zombie infection on

634
00:37:20,320 --> 00:37:23,399
Speaker 1: the court as ups. Really that makes sense. Yeah, I've

635
00:37:23,400 --> 00:37:25,960
Speaker 1: heard about the last of us. But nobody has has

636
00:37:26,000 --> 00:37:28,279
Speaker 1: told me that that that. Yeah, that sounds really cool.

637
00:37:28,719 --> 00:37:31,239
Speaker 1: Yeah it is. I really loved that aspect of the game.

638
00:37:31,360 --> 00:37:35,720
Speaker 1: It's like the biological meshing sort of these biological facts

639
00:37:35,800 --> 00:37:39,439
Speaker 1: with their their the science fictions. I mean we we

640
00:37:39,440 --> 00:37:43,239
Speaker 1: we kind of understand bacteria, we we kind of understand viruses,

641
00:37:43,280 --> 00:37:45,480
Speaker 1: but yeah, like fun guy and like what are they?

642
00:37:47,000 --> 00:37:52,680
Speaker 1: Things are? Things? Are? Those are the misfolded proteins that

643
00:37:52,680 --> 00:37:55,640
Speaker 1: that just like, yeah, houses a ruckets in your brain.

644
00:37:55,719 --> 00:37:58,600
Speaker 1: They don't like that. Those are scary. But I do

645
00:37:58,680 --> 00:38:02,520
Speaker 1: think like, aside from fun Guy, which are uh not

646
00:38:02,800 --> 00:38:06,080
Speaker 1: a fun guy. Uh, you know, I think that that

647
00:38:06,239 --> 00:38:08,359
Speaker 1: strategy of like if you lay in wait for like

648
00:38:08,440 --> 00:38:11,360
Speaker 1: seventeen years, yeah, like birds aren't gonna know what to

649
00:38:11,400 --> 00:38:14,680
Speaker 1: do about you, Like, their lifespans are typically not seventeen

650
00:38:14,760 --> 00:38:17,040
Speaker 1: years long, so they're not going to have any memory

651
00:38:17,360 --> 00:38:19,799
Speaker 1: of these brooding events. Are not going to know like

652
00:38:19,920 --> 00:38:22,960
Speaker 1: when to come and pray on you. So I think

653
00:38:23,000 --> 00:38:26,400
Speaker 1: that maybe that is part of the strategy. Um. Interestingly,

654
00:38:26,520 --> 00:38:29,840
Speaker 1: sometimes there are stragglers who either come too early or

655
00:38:29,920 --> 00:38:32,600
Speaker 1: too late to the big brooding party. So it's not

656
00:38:32,600 --> 00:38:36,799
Speaker 1: not perfect, you know, Nobody's perfect. Poe Buddy's nerfect, and

657
00:38:36,800 --> 00:38:40,120
Speaker 1: that applies to Cicada's too. I feel like I've heard

658
00:38:40,160 --> 00:38:43,919
Speaker 1: them before. I've heard like like a strug. Yeah yeah,

659
00:38:44,000 --> 00:38:45,920
Speaker 1: I feel like we get that, like used to get

660
00:38:45,960 --> 00:38:48,040
Speaker 1: the they're not actually June bugs, but we call them

661
00:38:48,120 --> 00:38:51,160
Speaker 1: June bugs in in California, And like once or twice

662
00:38:51,200 --> 00:38:53,440
Speaker 1: we would get a June bug that was late. My

663
00:38:53,480 --> 00:38:56,680
Speaker 1: mom was like, oh, sorry, dude, you're late. It's not

664
00:38:56,760 --> 00:39:00,360
Speaker 1: June anymore. And and yes, Kada's eat here. Sometimes you'd

665
00:39:00,400 --> 00:39:04,399
Speaker 1: hear like one and it was just like, yeah, it's

666
00:39:04,440 --> 00:39:08,920
Speaker 1: like anybody is still out here. Yeah, uh yeah. But

667
00:39:09,000 --> 00:39:13,360
Speaker 1: what's interesting is if there's enough stragglers, because there's so

668
00:39:13,400 --> 00:39:16,120
Speaker 1: many of them, even if you're a straggler, the chance

669
00:39:16,160 --> 00:39:18,880
Speaker 1: that there's going to be another straggler is pretty high.

670
00:39:19,040 --> 00:39:21,960
Speaker 1: So uh, sometimes there are enough of them that they

671
00:39:21,960 --> 00:39:26,000
Speaker 1: actually successfully made like a group of them, and then

672
00:39:26,360 --> 00:39:28,480
Speaker 1: they can get off sink a little bit from the

673
00:39:28,560 --> 00:39:31,479
Speaker 1: rest of them, and that can actually start a new

674
00:39:31,640 --> 00:39:36,480
Speaker 1: brood that also they still have like the seventeen year cycle,

675
00:39:36,560 --> 00:39:39,239
Speaker 1: but because they're like off sinc just a little bit,

676
00:39:39,400 --> 00:39:42,440
Speaker 1: they start like a different brewd that will actually hatch

677
00:39:42,719 --> 00:39:47,000
Speaker 1: different years. So there are many different um cicada brewds,

678
00:39:47,040 --> 00:39:49,080
Speaker 1: so brute x is not the only one. There are

679
00:39:49,320 --> 00:39:52,520
Speaker 1: cicada brewds that emerge every seventeen years. There's some that

680
00:39:52,560 --> 00:39:56,359
Speaker 1: also emerge every thirteen years, so slightly different species. Yeah,

681
00:39:56,360 --> 00:39:59,120
Speaker 1: because I know I've heard cicadas at times that weren't

682
00:39:59,160 --> 00:40:02,960
Speaker 1: just that wasn't just seventeen years ago. Yes, because well,

683
00:40:02,960 --> 00:40:06,240
Speaker 1: first of all, there's the cicadas that aren't periodical brewders,

684
00:40:06,239 --> 00:40:09,719
Speaker 1: so they they are around every year UM, and they

685
00:40:09,800 --> 00:40:12,759
Speaker 1: don't do this behavior of waiting seventeen years. They have

686
00:40:12,840 --> 00:40:17,080
Speaker 1: like a yearly reproductive cycle. But you may be saying, like, well,

687
00:40:17,280 --> 00:40:20,480
Speaker 1: I've seen like mass emergence of cicadas and it hasn't

688
00:40:20,480 --> 00:40:22,840
Speaker 1: been seventeen years since I've seen it. And that's because

689
00:40:22,880 --> 00:40:25,799
Speaker 1: like they're they're on these different cycles. So this is

690
00:40:25,840 --> 00:40:30,080
Speaker 1: not it's not that this event only happens every seventeen years.

691
00:40:30,120 --> 00:40:33,719
Speaker 1: This brewed X is only gonna happen every seventeen years

692
00:40:33,760 --> 00:40:37,520
Speaker 1: because their population is on this schedule. But there are

693
00:40:37,520 --> 00:40:41,200
Speaker 1: gonna be other staggered populations of cicadas that are on

694
00:40:41,320 --> 00:40:46,000
Speaker 1: different schedules. So we see these mass brewed emergence events

695
00:40:46,080 --> 00:40:49,560
Speaker 1: every few years, and so it's yeah, so if you're like, oh,

696
00:40:49,640 --> 00:40:53,560
Speaker 1: I'm gonna miss this mass brewed emergence, don't panic. There

697
00:40:53,600 --> 00:40:56,040
Speaker 1: will be another one and you won't have to wait

698
00:40:56,120 --> 00:40:59,000
Speaker 1: seventeen years. But if you want to see this specific

699
00:40:59,160 --> 00:41:02,680
Speaker 1: brute event, yeah, will have to wait another seventeen years. Um.

700
00:41:03,120 --> 00:41:09,520
Speaker 1: There's enough cicadas for everyone, don't mari. Speaking of which, actually,

701
00:41:09,560 --> 00:41:16,360
Speaker 1: apparently I read that cicada's tastes like canned asparagus, which

702
00:41:17,000 --> 00:41:21,680
Speaker 1: I don't know what, like the like vin di diagram

703
00:41:21,680 --> 00:41:25,440
Speaker 1: of like people who have eaten canned asparagus and people

704
00:41:25,480 --> 00:41:30,680
Speaker 1: who have eaten cicadas. Who has both eaten canned asparagus

705
00:41:30,760 --> 00:41:34,879
Speaker 1: yuck and cicadas, Like people have eaten both of them.

706
00:41:34,880 --> 00:41:36,600
Speaker 1: That they're like, oh, yeah, this is like the can

707
00:41:36,640 --> 00:41:39,400
Speaker 1: asparagus that I eat, Like what, yeah, I mean, like

708
00:41:39,480 --> 00:41:42,600
Speaker 1: an asparagus is like a very specific thing anyway, Like

709
00:41:42,840 --> 00:41:45,319
Speaker 1: I think asparagus is Okay, It's not my favorite. My

710
00:41:45,360 --> 00:41:47,839
Speaker 1: sister loves and she cooks it a lot, and you know,

711
00:41:47,880 --> 00:41:50,920
Speaker 1: sometimes I'll eat it if she cooks it, but but yeah,

712
00:41:50,920 --> 00:41:54,120
Speaker 1: but I've never had it, can't And that sounds know. No,

713
00:41:54,320 --> 00:41:58,000
Speaker 1: I'm like you, like, I'll have like roasted asparus. I

714
00:41:58,000 --> 00:42:00,439
Speaker 1: don't love it. It's a little too fibrous for me. Yeah,

715
00:42:00,760 --> 00:42:04,279
Speaker 1: also making your pee smell weird. I'm not yeah, but like,

716
00:42:04,760 --> 00:42:09,200
Speaker 1: but but I couldn't like eating something about canics asparagus

717
00:42:09,400 --> 00:42:11,960
Speaker 1: just does not appeal to me at all. But then

718
00:42:12,040 --> 00:42:15,000
Speaker 1: it's like, who is eating Like, well, actually, you know what,

719
00:42:15,040 --> 00:42:16,799
Speaker 1: I guess it makes sense. The kind of person who

720
00:42:16,840 --> 00:42:19,800
Speaker 1: would regularly eat canned asparagus probably what eat is a

721
00:42:19,840 --> 00:42:24,560
Speaker 1: cana just out of curiosity. They already eating eating weird stuff,

722
00:42:24,600 --> 00:42:27,160
Speaker 1: so yeah, right, why not? Yeah, it's like what, look,

723
00:42:27,320 --> 00:42:30,680
Speaker 1: once you've stooped to the level of eating candid sparagus,

724
00:42:30,760 --> 00:42:33,239
Speaker 1: so why not just try I'm thinking, is it like

725
00:42:33,360 --> 00:42:36,960
Speaker 1: army rations or something? Because because or like survivalists, because

726
00:42:38,200 --> 00:42:40,279
Speaker 1: survivalist because that seems like like the kind of people

727
00:42:40,280 --> 00:42:41,960
Speaker 1: who would do it. They'll be like, yeah, we eat bugs,

728
00:42:42,000 --> 00:42:44,360
Speaker 1: We've also eaten you know, these can vegetables. Yeah, of

729
00:42:44,360 --> 00:42:47,360
Speaker 1: course bugs are going to be the meat of the future. Yeah,

730
00:42:47,400 --> 00:42:50,480
Speaker 1: which I mean, like, yes, it grosses me out to

731
00:42:50,520 --> 00:42:53,279
Speaker 1: think about, Like I I it both I both am like, oh,

732
00:42:53,320 --> 00:42:55,399
Speaker 1: this's actually like a really good idea to like make

733
00:42:55,480 --> 00:42:57,840
Speaker 1: cricket flower or something like that, because it's more readily

734
00:42:57,840 --> 00:43:01,480
Speaker 1: available and it's you know, probably eat safer and maybe

735
00:43:01,480 --> 00:43:04,360
Speaker 1: even than probably more humane than like factory farming and such.

736
00:43:04,400 --> 00:43:09,920
Speaker 1: But but also like the idea gross. No, I'm with you, Like,

737
00:43:09,960 --> 00:43:12,719
Speaker 1: I'm like, yeah, no, we should be probably eating more insects.

738
00:43:12,760 --> 00:43:17,600
Speaker 1: That would be more yeah, ecologically good for the planet.

739
00:43:18,320 --> 00:43:22,160
Speaker 1: Uh but yeah gross icky No, Yeah, I'm like I

740
00:43:22,560 --> 00:43:25,239
Speaker 1: I and I think it's entirely cultural. I don't think

741
00:43:25,280 --> 00:43:27,640
Speaker 1: there's any real logic to it. There are places where

742
00:43:27,680 --> 00:43:31,200
Speaker 1: people do eat insects and like it's totally normal and fine,

743
00:43:31,239 --> 00:43:33,560
Speaker 1: and they probably like, look there, they probably look at

744
00:43:33,600 --> 00:43:36,280
Speaker 1: our food like they probably look at like a Carl's Jr.

745
00:43:36,360 --> 00:43:39,759
Speaker 1: Like burger and be like what the hell? Yeah exactly,

746
00:43:40,360 --> 00:43:42,680
Speaker 1: And I feel like there's yeah, and and people, and

747
00:43:42,719 --> 00:43:46,040
Speaker 1: you can survive pretty well off of that. Yeah, but

748
00:43:46,040 --> 00:43:49,439
Speaker 1: there's a Yeah, there's a guy that was accidentally got

749
00:43:49,480 --> 00:43:52,960
Speaker 1: stranded I think somewhere in Australia, like in the desert

750
00:43:53,120 --> 00:43:57,960
Speaker 1: brush area, and he survived by eating witchety grubs, which

751
00:43:57,960 --> 00:44:00,080
Speaker 1: are these big like sort of you know how on

752
00:44:00,160 --> 00:44:02,439
Speaker 1: the Lion King there's a scene where they like teach

753
00:44:02,560 --> 00:44:05,480
Speaker 1: them about to eat big grubs. Is they're huge grubs

754
00:44:05,520 --> 00:44:09,120
Speaker 1: and they just look not super appealing to eat. But

755
00:44:09,520 --> 00:44:13,040
Speaker 1: people have been eating like for centuries. Uh, people have

756
00:44:13,120 --> 00:44:17,000
Speaker 1: been eating um, the witchty grubs as as a part

757
00:44:17,040 --> 00:44:19,839
Speaker 1: of like their diet, and they're they're perfectly good to eat.

758
00:44:19,840 --> 00:44:22,879
Speaker 1: And this guy survived by eating them. Uh And yeah,

759
00:44:22,960 --> 00:44:25,319
Speaker 1: I just it's it's totally cultural that we've we've been

760
00:44:25,360 --> 00:44:29,960
Speaker 1: brainwashed to reject insects as food, but somehow be okay

761
00:44:30,000 --> 00:44:32,439
Speaker 1: with factory farming, which is a little messed up. Yeah,

762
00:44:32,440 --> 00:44:36,200
Speaker 1: which is which is even grosser, right, yes, way gross.

763
00:44:36,239 --> 00:44:39,640
Speaker 1: I think like I don't like eating Like I I

764
00:44:39,680 --> 00:44:41,439
Speaker 1: eat meat. Sometimes I don't eat a lot of meat,

765
00:44:41,480 --> 00:44:44,080
Speaker 1: but like, but like when I do, like, I don't like,

766
00:44:44,600 --> 00:44:46,120
Speaker 1: I don't think I would like to eat a cricket

767
00:44:46,160 --> 00:44:48,759
Speaker 1: if it looked like a cricket, Yeah could, But I

768
00:44:48,760 --> 00:44:50,799
Speaker 1: also don't like to eat meat that looks like the

769
00:44:50,840 --> 00:44:53,239
Speaker 1: animal that it is. Like I I feel like, yeah,

770
00:44:53,239 --> 00:44:55,319
Speaker 1: and I feel like for me, that's a psychological thing,

771
00:44:55,880 --> 00:44:58,319
Speaker 1: you know, I'm kind of the opposite. I almost like

772
00:44:58,440 --> 00:45:00,960
Speaker 1: want to know I'm just eating a I feel like

773
00:45:01,000 --> 00:45:03,239
Speaker 1: if it's if you're like, this cookie was made out

774
00:45:03,239 --> 00:45:07,880
Speaker 1: of ground up crickets. I feel like here, I've roasted

775
00:45:07,880 --> 00:45:10,640
Speaker 1: this cricket and it's like prepared it, and you know,

776
00:45:10,840 --> 00:45:13,440
Speaker 1: I'm like, Okay, at least this is being honest with me.

777
00:45:13,520 --> 00:45:15,279
Speaker 1: What it's true. I wouldn't want to be tricked into

778
00:45:15,280 --> 00:45:18,440
Speaker 1: eating it or anything. Yeah, I think I would rather Also,

779
00:45:18,560 --> 00:45:22,520
Speaker 1: I think i'd rather eat a prepared bug than I

780
00:45:22,520 --> 00:45:27,839
Speaker 1: would to eat candasparagus. Absolutely, I'm not eating candasparagus. Yeah.

781
00:45:28,440 --> 00:45:35,279
Speaker 1: I can't canned know or canned mushrooms too. I'd rather

782
00:45:35,320 --> 00:45:39,760
Speaker 1: eat a freshly prepared insect um. In terms of the cicada,

783
00:45:40,080 --> 00:45:44,279
Speaker 1: the cicada brewdex, like, should we be concerned about this?

784
00:45:44,440 --> 00:45:47,680
Speaker 1: Like are you in imminent danger of having your face

785
00:45:47,719 --> 00:45:52,319
Speaker 1: covered in cicadas and then like you know, skeletonizing. You know, Uh,

786
00:45:52,440 --> 00:45:55,720
Speaker 1: cicadas are harmless to humans. They don't sting or bite.

787
00:45:56,200 --> 00:45:59,799
Speaker 1: They are allowed. So if you live near where this

788
00:46:00,080 --> 00:46:03,279
Speaker 1: is happening, you might have some tough nights. But uh,

789
00:46:03,680 --> 00:46:06,120
Speaker 1: you know they're not they they don't hurt humans. They

790
00:46:06,120 --> 00:46:09,440
Speaker 1: also don't hurt the Uh, they don't really hurt the

791
00:46:09,560 --> 00:46:12,480
Speaker 1: trees or crops or anything. They're not like locusts. They

792
00:46:12,480 --> 00:46:17,879
Speaker 1: don't destroy crops. Uh. They will suck the juice out

793
00:46:17,880 --> 00:46:21,040
Speaker 1: of tree twigs, which also doesn't really hurt the trees

794
00:46:21,120 --> 00:46:23,120
Speaker 1: that much. Like it seems actually to just kind of

795
00:46:23,160 --> 00:46:26,360
Speaker 1: like prune the trees. They don't really do lasting damage

796
00:46:26,400 --> 00:46:29,160
Speaker 1: to the trees. There are even some arguments with that.

797
00:46:29,239 --> 00:46:31,960
Speaker 1: Because they burst out these holes, it helps aerate the

798
00:46:32,000 --> 00:46:34,640
Speaker 1: soil and it's actually good for the trees. I feel

799
00:46:34,640 --> 00:46:37,359
Speaker 1: like it's probably a net neutral because they do suck

800
00:46:37,800 --> 00:46:40,319
Speaker 1: some of the juices out of the roots, and when

801
00:46:40,360 --> 00:46:44,040
Speaker 1: they lay their eggs, they actually like kind of cut

802
00:46:44,040 --> 00:46:46,200
Speaker 1: into the tree a little bit to like stuff the

803
00:46:46,200 --> 00:46:48,319
Speaker 1: eggs in, so they're secure there. So I think it's

804
00:46:48,560 --> 00:46:51,600
Speaker 1: it's probably just a neutral effect on the trees. Um

805
00:46:51,640 --> 00:46:54,960
Speaker 1: but I have seen some arguments that it's actually beneficial,

806
00:46:55,040 --> 00:46:57,840
Speaker 1: so so maybe. But either way, they're not harmful, So

807
00:46:58,000 --> 00:47:01,520
Speaker 1: just enjoy the big Cicada party that happens only once

808
00:47:01,600 --> 00:47:04,680
Speaker 1: every seventeen years. They're kind of the musical theater kids

809
00:47:04,880 --> 00:47:08,080
Speaker 1: of the insect world, which I mean I relate to

810
00:47:08,120 --> 00:47:11,920
Speaker 1: as a musical theater kid. They're they're really annoying, but

811
00:47:11,920 --> 00:47:17,040
Speaker 1: they're harmless. Yeah exactly. Yeah, don't don't like, don't hate

812
00:47:17,040 --> 00:47:19,000
Speaker 1: on them too much. Just let them do their thing,

813
00:47:19,200 --> 00:47:22,400
Speaker 1: you know, like like, you know, you can find them annoying,

814
00:47:22,480 --> 00:47:25,040
Speaker 1: but they're just you know, yeah, they might be costs

815
00:47:25,080 --> 00:47:28,759
Speaker 1: playing as vampires, but it's exactly like tomato juice. So

816
00:47:29,080 --> 00:47:32,120
Speaker 1: they just want to hook up at the cast party,

817
00:47:32,320 --> 00:47:33,880
Speaker 1: you know, they just want to hook up at the

818
00:47:33,880 --> 00:47:36,080
Speaker 1: cast party. So so let them have their little their

819
00:47:36,120 --> 00:47:40,440
Speaker 1: party full of you know, massage trains and and you

820
00:47:40,840 --> 00:47:45,919
Speaker 1: go back underground soon enough. Yeah, exactly, exactly. They'll they'll

821
00:47:45,920 --> 00:47:48,239
Speaker 1: grow out of it, you know, just as theater kids. Yeah,

822
00:47:48,400 --> 00:47:51,480
Speaker 1: kind of kind of grow out of the Yeah, that's

823
00:47:51,520 --> 00:47:54,120
Speaker 1: that's what they are. Cicadas with the theater kids. Yeah,

824
00:47:54,480 --> 00:47:58,080
Speaker 1: I'm sure theater kids are going to be okay with that. Yeah,

825
00:47:58,120 --> 00:48:00,800
Speaker 1: I'm okay with it, and I'm a theater kid. So exactly.

826
00:48:01,040 --> 00:48:04,360
Speaker 1: You're the president of Peter Kids. God am I I

827
00:48:04,440 --> 00:48:16,120
Speaker 1: might be. So we've talked about cicadas and their mass

828
00:48:16,160 --> 00:48:19,720
Speaker 1: brooding events, but they are not the only animal that

829
00:48:20,000 --> 00:48:24,040
Speaker 1: does this mare. Are you familiar with sea turtle mass

830
00:48:24,080 --> 00:48:27,200
Speaker 1: hatching events? No, I'm not, but please tell me because

831
00:48:27,200 --> 00:48:32,520
Speaker 1: I love turtles. Yes, So thousands of female sea turtles

832
00:48:33,160 --> 00:48:37,279
Speaker 1: have this uncanny ability to emerge from the ocean all

833
00:48:37,320 --> 00:48:42,080
Speaker 1: at once to lay their eggs at specific beaches. So

834
00:48:42,400 --> 00:48:45,919
Speaker 1: there are all of Ridley sea turtles are one such

835
00:48:46,040 --> 00:48:50,040
Speaker 1: species who will emerge by the thousands to lay their

836
00:48:50,160 --> 00:48:54,800
Speaker 1: eggs at select beaches, like UH there's a beach called

837
00:48:55,480 --> 00:48:59,920
Speaker 1: Osteon all in Costa Rica, and they seem to specific

838
00:49:00,040 --> 00:49:04,640
Speaker 1: thickly select particular beaches to all come and lay their

839
00:49:04,719 --> 00:49:07,680
Speaker 1: eggs on mass. And because they're all coming at the

840
00:49:07,719 --> 00:49:11,040
Speaker 1: same time to lay their eggs, that means the eggs

841
00:49:11,040 --> 00:49:15,000
Speaker 1: will all hatch around the same time as well. And

842
00:49:15,080 --> 00:49:18,319
Speaker 1: so when these eggs hatch, they'll come out because like

843
00:49:18,360 --> 00:49:21,440
Speaker 1: they bury them in the sand and they they have

844
00:49:21,880 --> 00:49:25,680
Speaker 1: each one has a clutch of UH I think a

845
00:49:25,719 --> 00:49:28,879
Speaker 1: couple of dozen eggs, and then they'll all come out

846
00:49:28,960 --> 00:49:33,600
Speaker 1: at the same time, and the hatchlings will instinctively go

847
00:49:33,800 --> 00:49:38,759
Speaker 1: towards the ocean UH possibly guided by light reflecting off

848
00:49:38,800 --> 00:49:41,120
Speaker 1: of the water. UH. Some of them like they'll come

849
00:49:41,120 --> 00:49:43,759
Speaker 1: out during night and like the moonlight reflecting off the

850
00:49:43,760 --> 00:49:48,240
Speaker 1: water seems to be a beacon for them. These UH turtles,

851
00:49:48,239 --> 00:49:51,000
Speaker 1: even though there are so many of them, actually surprisingly

852
00:49:51,120 --> 00:49:54,680
Speaker 1: few will reach adulthood because they're small and delicious, like

853
00:49:54,760 --> 00:49:58,799
Speaker 1: little like little cinnamon buns. Uh, and so like there

854
00:49:58,840 --> 00:50:02,920
Speaker 1: are lots of scab injers and predators who wait for

855
00:50:03,000 --> 00:50:06,520
Speaker 1: these events. They know what's happening, and these are very

856
00:50:06,560 --> 00:50:09,399
Speaker 1: tasty treats for them because they're so defenseless and there

857
00:50:09,440 --> 00:50:12,480
Speaker 1: they don't they can't move that quickly, so when they emerge,

858
00:50:12,719 --> 00:50:16,560
Speaker 1: they have this very dangerous trek to the ocean. And

859
00:50:16,600 --> 00:50:21,360
Speaker 1: so having this mass hatching event again gives you safety

860
00:50:21,360 --> 00:50:25,160
Speaker 1: in numbers like you are, you know, you may not

861
00:50:25,280 --> 00:50:28,160
Speaker 1: make it to the ocean, but like you're much have

862
00:50:28,239 --> 00:50:31,280
Speaker 1: a much better chance if you're one of like thousands

863
00:50:31,320 --> 00:50:35,320
Speaker 1: and thousands of individuals. Then if it's just you coming

864
00:50:35,320 --> 00:50:37,360
Speaker 1: out and then like a seagull is going to immediately

865
00:50:37,360 --> 00:50:40,400
Speaker 1: see you and just snatch you up. So yeah, these

866
00:50:40,560 --> 00:50:44,560
Speaker 1: these mass turtle hatchings, they happen all over the world. Um,

867
00:50:44,600 --> 00:50:50,040
Speaker 1: but like often these populations of sea turtles prefer specific beaches,

868
00:50:50,080 --> 00:50:53,440
Speaker 1: so they're often these events that that people wait for

869
00:50:53,480 --> 00:50:56,600
Speaker 1: these turtles to hatch and and watch them or like

870
00:50:56,680 --> 00:51:01,800
Speaker 1: sometimes yeah, yeah, it's it's quite something. I mean, the

871
00:51:01,840 --> 00:51:04,160
Speaker 1: babies are so cute. It's hard though, because like you know,

872
00:51:04,239 --> 00:51:05,799
Speaker 1: a lot of them aren't going to make it so

873
00:51:06,080 --> 00:51:09,520
Speaker 1: and you can't you shouldn't interfere. Sometimes there are rescue

874
00:51:09,560 --> 00:51:12,279
Speaker 1: groups that will like, uh kind of try to help

875
00:51:13,080 --> 00:51:16,040
Speaker 1: protect them from like poaching and stuff. So but yeah,

876
00:51:16,040 --> 00:51:19,399
Speaker 1: I mean it is. It is quite something though. So

877
00:51:19,719 --> 00:51:22,200
Speaker 1: you know, watching a video of just like thousands of

878
00:51:22,200 --> 00:51:25,920
Speaker 1: these turtles just like kind of like ambling because they

879
00:51:26,000 --> 00:51:28,319
Speaker 1: can't move very well. Uh, they just kind of like

880
00:51:28,400 --> 00:51:31,480
Speaker 1: use their little flippers to like kind of push themselves forward,

881
00:51:31,520 --> 00:51:34,200
Speaker 1: and it's just like, yeah, I like the little patterns

882
00:51:34,239 --> 00:51:36,560
Speaker 1: that they leave in the ground. I'm looking at the

883
00:51:36,600 --> 00:51:38,759
Speaker 1: little patterns they leave in it. It does look like

884
00:51:38,800 --> 00:51:43,120
Speaker 1: they're just moving forward, very very slowly, just finishing. It's

885
00:51:43,239 --> 00:51:45,879
Speaker 1: very cute. I mean they're hustling. You can tell they're

886
00:51:45,960 --> 00:51:48,520
Speaker 1: hustling as fast as they can. Unfortunately that's just not

887
00:51:48,600 --> 00:51:52,520
Speaker 1: very fast. But yeah, they they really they really try

888
00:51:52,560 --> 00:51:55,239
Speaker 1: to gun it to the ocean, but they can they

889
00:51:55,280 --> 00:51:57,760
Speaker 1: can only move so fast because they're these little tiny,

890
00:51:58,120 --> 00:52:01,919
Speaker 1: little tiny like sand dollars size things, and they Yeah,

891
00:52:02,040 --> 00:52:04,800
Speaker 1: it's but yeah, you're right, the patterns they leave behind

892
00:52:04,840 --> 00:52:08,440
Speaker 1: are quite beautiful. But you may have heard of these

893
00:52:08,520 --> 00:52:11,680
Speaker 1: sea turtle mass hatchings, but there are also mass river

894
00:52:11,800 --> 00:52:17,800
Speaker 1: turtle hatchings. Yeah, in the Amazon rainforest. So in Brazil,

895
00:52:18,200 --> 00:52:23,000
Speaker 1: on the Purus River in the Amazon Rainforest, tens of

896
00:52:23,120 --> 00:52:27,040
Speaker 1: thousands of baby array turtles, also known as the giant

897
00:52:27,160 --> 00:52:31,120
Speaker 1: South American river turtles will hatch and make their way

898
00:52:31,160 --> 00:52:35,000
Speaker 1: to the river. So, similar to the sea turtles, they're

899
00:52:35,040 --> 00:52:37,400
Speaker 1: buried in the sand, which keeps the eggs safe. Right,

900
00:52:37,440 --> 00:52:39,279
Speaker 1: So if you're wondering, well, why don't they just lay

901
00:52:39,320 --> 00:52:42,520
Speaker 1: them in the ocean or in the river, the eggs

902
00:52:42,520 --> 00:52:46,000
Speaker 1: are going to be just sitting ducks or sitting eggs

903
00:52:46,040 --> 00:52:48,760
Speaker 1: for anything to eat, So burying them in the sand

904
00:52:48,840 --> 00:52:51,880
Speaker 1: keeps them safe. Uh. And so once they hatch, that

905
00:52:52,040 --> 00:52:55,320
Speaker 1: is when the real trouble starts. So they say giant,

906
00:52:55,440 --> 00:52:59,000
Speaker 1: How how giant are they? Yeah? So as adults, the

907
00:52:59,040 --> 00:53:02,440
Speaker 1: babies are small, obviously cute little babies, but as adults

908
00:53:02,480 --> 00:53:07,120
Speaker 1: they get up to about two hundred pounds or weight.

909
00:53:07,360 --> 00:53:09,600
Speaker 1: Those are the larger I think on average they don't

910
00:53:09,640 --> 00:53:11,360
Speaker 1: reach that way, but like those are some of the

911
00:53:11,480 --> 00:53:15,160
Speaker 1: larger individuals, and their shells can grow to be over

912
00:53:15,280 --> 00:53:18,439
Speaker 1: three ft longer, over one ms long, So I think

913
00:53:18,640 --> 00:53:21,640
Speaker 1: typically they're a little smaller, so more around like a

914
00:53:21,719 --> 00:53:25,640
Speaker 1: hundred two hundred fifty pounds um and a little smaller shells,

915
00:53:25,640 --> 00:53:28,960
Speaker 1: but they can get quite big. They're also, I think

916
00:53:29,000 --> 00:53:31,480
Speaker 1: as adults, very cute. They have these long necks, and

917
00:53:31,520 --> 00:53:35,440
Speaker 1: they have these little piggy noses, like little little piggy snouts.

918
00:53:35,880 --> 00:53:38,960
Speaker 1: And then they also often like algae will grow on

919
00:53:39,000 --> 00:53:41,800
Speaker 1: their shells, so that I think they're really cool. Sometimes

920
00:53:41,800 --> 00:53:45,440
Speaker 1: they get like these mohawks of algae growing on them. Um,

921
00:53:45,560 --> 00:53:49,520
Speaker 1: They're they're really interesting looking, very cool. Uh. And then

922
00:53:49,560 --> 00:53:56,080
Speaker 1: the babies are adorable, but they face a very unfortunate odds.

923
00:53:56,080 --> 00:53:59,919
Speaker 1: So in a protected area of the Parus River, these

924
00:54:00,160 --> 00:54:05,760
Speaker 1: turtles will hatch on mass. So in nine thousand baby

925
00:54:05,800 --> 00:54:08,520
Speaker 1: turtles hatch just within a few days of each other.

926
00:54:09,360 --> 00:54:12,080
Speaker 1: And if you think that's gonna look like a huge

927
00:54:12,160 --> 00:54:15,239
Speaker 1: pile of baby turtles, that is what it looks like.

928
00:54:16,000 --> 00:54:19,920
Speaker 1: So unfortunately, even though there's just so many of them,

929
00:54:19,920 --> 00:54:22,560
Speaker 1: you think like, well, god, there must be like huge

930
00:54:22,680 --> 00:54:26,160
Speaker 1: numbers of these turtles. Unfortunately, only about one percent of

931
00:54:26,200 --> 00:54:30,360
Speaker 1: them will reach adulthood. So it truly is just a

932
00:54:30,560 --> 00:54:33,000
Speaker 1: law of large numbers. Like you want to make as

933
00:54:33,080 --> 00:54:37,200
Speaker 1: many babies as you can because their odds are so slim,

934
00:54:37,239 --> 00:54:39,440
Speaker 1: and you just want to make sure that some of

935
00:54:39,440 --> 00:54:42,759
Speaker 1: them will make it to adulthood. What are their what

936
00:54:42,800 --> 00:54:48,200
Speaker 1: are their predators? Do you know? Yeah, for the sea turtles,

937
00:54:48,239 --> 00:54:50,919
Speaker 1: there are a lot of like birds are a big one,

938
00:54:51,000 --> 00:54:54,160
Speaker 1: but they're also plenty of small sharks like in the

939
00:54:54,160 --> 00:54:56,879
Speaker 1: ocean that are really good predators. What about the river

940
00:54:56,960 --> 00:54:59,480
Speaker 1: ones and the river ones again, I mean, there are

941
00:54:59,480 --> 00:55:03,120
Speaker 1: a lot of avenging birds that freshwater birds that will

942
00:55:03,320 --> 00:55:07,000
Speaker 1: pray for them, and then um, I'm pretty sure. I

943
00:55:07,000 --> 00:55:09,080
Speaker 1: mean there are a lot of big fish in these

944
00:55:09,200 --> 00:55:11,560
Speaker 1: rivers that are would be happy enough to eat them.

945
00:55:11,560 --> 00:55:14,880
Speaker 1: There's also otters, river arters I believe that live in

946
00:55:14,880 --> 00:55:18,080
Speaker 1: the area. River otters are scary, like I like, I

947
00:55:18,160 --> 00:55:22,239
Speaker 1: like otters, but river otters are scary. They're they're they're serious,

948
00:55:22,600 --> 00:55:24,800
Speaker 1: they're serious like you do you think of the cute

949
00:55:24,800 --> 00:55:29,080
Speaker 1: little sea otters. No, river arters are huge. They're like

950
00:55:29,160 --> 00:55:33,359
Speaker 1: almost as tall, like as an adult man, and they

951
00:55:33,600 --> 00:55:37,320
Speaker 1: they're long, they have huge teeth. They can take on crocodiles.

952
00:55:37,360 --> 00:55:41,359
Speaker 1: They can like literally take on gators and crocodiles and

953
00:55:41,520 --> 00:55:44,960
Speaker 1: hold their own so they're serious business. But yeah, so

954
00:55:45,000 --> 00:55:48,879
Speaker 1: that that is perhaps one of the cutest mass spawnings.

955
00:55:49,560 --> 00:55:53,040
Speaker 1: But in terms of the biggest mass spawning, you have

956
00:55:53,160 --> 00:55:57,880
Speaker 1: to go to the Great Barrier Reef. Great Barrier Reef

957
00:55:57,960 --> 00:56:01,000
Speaker 1: is home to the largest mass spawning events in the

958
00:56:01,040 --> 00:56:05,440
Speaker 1: world of coral. So, I know, coral looks like a

959
00:56:05,560 --> 00:56:08,680
Speaker 1: plant or a rock, but they are living animals, which

960
00:56:08,719 --> 00:56:10,880
Speaker 1: is mind blowing. They just don't they don't look like

961
00:56:10,920 --> 00:56:13,719
Speaker 1: they should be alive. They look like, you know, they

962
00:56:13,760 --> 00:56:17,960
Speaker 1: look like set dressing. Yeah, my my grandmother had a

963
00:56:18,000 --> 00:56:20,880
Speaker 1: coral ring and it's weird to me now because I'm like,

964
00:56:20,920 --> 00:56:23,480
Speaker 1: that's almost like that's like closer to fur than it

965
00:56:23,600 --> 00:56:27,640
Speaker 1: is to like, you know, skeletons. Yeah, exactly, and it

966
00:56:27,680 --> 00:56:30,040
Speaker 1: was a very pretty ring. But I think about it

967
00:56:30,040 --> 00:56:31,640
Speaker 1: now and I'm like, oh, so weird that that was

968
00:56:31,680 --> 00:56:36,400
Speaker 1: alive once. Yes, yes, and so coral are very much alive.

969
00:56:36,480 --> 00:56:40,720
Speaker 1: They are nidarians, which is the same phylum as jellyfish

970
00:56:40,800 --> 00:56:44,000
Speaker 1: and see an enemies. So yeah, they're actually related to

971
00:56:44,040 --> 00:56:48,360
Speaker 1: jellyfish and see enemies. They are often colonials, so that

972
00:56:48,440 --> 00:56:53,040
Speaker 1: means they form these huge groups of many individual polyps.

973
00:56:53,080 --> 00:56:56,520
Speaker 1: So polyp is like just like one individual like you

974
00:56:56,520 --> 00:56:58,960
Speaker 1: see if you see a big branching thing of coral,

975
00:56:59,640 --> 00:57:03,200
Speaker 1: chances are there like thousands of individual polyps or hundreds

976
00:57:03,200 --> 00:57:06,640
Speaker 1: of individual polyps like on this piece of coral um.

977
00:57:07,040 --> 00:57:10,800
Speaker 1: So a polyp generally speaking for coral is like a

978
00:57:11,040 --> 00:57:14,560
Speaker 1: sort of oval structure. For some coral they look more

979
00:57:14,640 --> 00:57:17,440
Speaker 1: like sort of a long flower with a stem. Some

980
00:57:17,520 --> 00:57:20,160
Speaker 1: of them are more squat, some of them look sort

981
00:57:20,160 --> 00:57:22,320
Speaker 1: of like a flower bulb. Some of them look more

982
00:57:22,400 --> 00:57:25,520
Speaker 1: like pine cone shaped. But it's this is a living

983
00:57:25,680 --> 00:57:28,480
Speaker 1: it's got it's a living animal with like living tissue,

984
00:57:28,520 --> 00:57:31,560
Speaker 1: and it eats. They'll they'll filter feed and they like

985
00:57:31,640 --> 00:57:35,240
Speaker 1: will come out of this um. These corals and like, uh,

986
00:57:35,360 --> 00:57:38,560
Speaker 1: you know, use use their flowering organs to like catch

987
00:57:38,600 --> 00:57:42,400
Speaker 1: prey and and filter feed and just whatever is floating around.

988
00:57:43,000 --> 00:57:47,360
Speaker 1: So colonial polyps will often share sort of a base

989
00:57:47,960 --> 00:57:53,240
Speaker 1: either formed by fibrous proteins or calcified materials, uh, and

990
00:57:53,320 --> 00:57:56,360
Speaker 1: so that will form these big beautiful structures that you

991
00:57:56,400 --> 00:57:59,520
Speaker 1: see in the barrier reef. There are two main types

992
00:57:59,560 --> 00:58:03,360
Speaker 1: of coral. There are soft corals and stony corals. Soft

993
00:58:03,440 --> 00:58:06,800
Speaker 1: coral you may not even realize their coral because they

994
00:58:06,840 --> 00:58:10,920
Speaker 1: look they don't look hard. They are visibly soft. They

995
00:58:10,960 --> 00:58:13,960
Speaker 1: look sort of like a bunch of sea an enemy's

996
00:58:14,120 --> 00:58:17,000
Speaker 1: or flowers. Is that this? Oh yeah, you have a

997
00:58:17,040 --> 00:58:19,680
Speaker 1: picture of yellow ones and yeah, they look like they

998
00:58:19,720 --> 00:58:23,120
Speaker 1: look like those bottlebrush tree you know of things. Yeah,

999
00:58:23,160 --> 00:58:26,200
Speaker 1: they look like spiny, but they look soft. Yes, yes,

1000
00:58:26,360 --> 00:58:30,240
Speaker 1: they they are. They are softer. They don't generally have

1001
00:58:30,440 --> 00:58:34,840
Speaker 1: that like hard calcified skeletal structure. They're held together by

1002
00:58:35,160 --> 00:58:37,560
Speaker 1: jelly like tissues and they but they also do have

1003
00:58:37,640 --> 00:58:40,840
Speaker 1: some spiny structures that will support them. I was gonna say,

1004
00:58:40,880 --> 00:58:43,640
Speaker 1: do they feel soft to touch? Yeah, so part of

1005
00:58:43,640 --> 00:58:45,840
Speaker 1: them would feel soft to touch, but the part of

1006
00:58:45,880 --> 00:58:48,760
Speaker 1: them that is the sort of like bass that's holding

1007
00:58:48,760 --> 00:58:50,680
Speaker 1: them together is going to be a little more firm,

1008
00:58:50,760 --> 00:58:54,200
Speaker 1: sort of like spiny, like like tree branches. But yeah,

1009
00:58:54,240 --> 00:58:57,760
Speaker 1: like the definitely the polyps themselves is going to be softer,

1010
00:58:58,400 --> 00:59:02,120
Speaker 1: but hard. Coral is and a feel hard, so that

1011
00:59:02,240 --> 00:59:06,200
Speaker 1: the stony coral uh is the stuff that you probably

1012
00:59:06,280 --> 00:59:09,320
Speaker 1: think of when you think of coral. They look like mineral,

1013
00:59:09,520 --> 00:59:12,120
Speaker 1: more like a mineral than an animal. But they are alive.

1014
00:59:12,320 --> 00:59:16,160
Speaker 1: So there are a bunch of tiny polyps on stony

1015
00:59:16,400 --> 00:59:20,040
Speaker 1: coral skeletal structures, and like these polyps are, they're less

1016
00:59:20,080 --> 00:59:22,800
Speaker 1: sort of like flowery looking than soft corals. They're more

1017
00:59:22,880 --> 00:59:25,959
Speaker 1: a little more conical shaped, and they give like these

1018
00:59:26,000 --> 00:59:31,040
Speaker 1: stony uh corals, a sort of harder, more rocky appearance. Uh.

1019
00:59:31,120 --> 00:59:35,360
Speaker 1: And because often like these, these polyps are very tiny,

1020
00:59:35,440 --> 00:59:40,160
Speaker 1: only like one to three millimeters, you can barely see

1021
00:59:40,200 --> 00:59:43,840
Speaker 1: each individual just looks like this rocky texture on like

1022
00:59:43,880 --> 00:59:46,280
Speaker 1: this coral doesn't look like there's a bunch of individuals.

1023
00:59:46,280 --> 00:59:48,600
Speaker 1: But if you zoom in, those little little bumps are

1024
00:59:48,640 --> 00:59:52,640
Speaker 1: actually like living polyps um. And if you ever I

1025
00:59:52,720 --> 00:59:55,400
Speaker 1: have a visual aid for Mara here, you guys can

1026
00:59:55,480 --> 00:59:58,680
Speaker 1: check out the show notes and and see pictures of this.

1027
00:59:58,720 --> 01:00:02,400
Speaker 1: But I actually found because I, like I mentioned, I'm

1028
01:00:02,400 --> 01:00:05,080
Speaker 1: actually at my my parents house right now, and I

1029
01:00:05,160 --> 01:00:08,880
Speaker 1: found this in the bathroom as a decoration. It's actually

1030
01:00:09,120 --> 01:00:15,040
Speaker 1: a um a coral skeleton. So this is uh the uh.

1031
01:00:15,080 --> 01:00:18,520
Speaker 1: This is a stony coral, and this is the calcified

1032
01:00:19,080 --> 01:00:23,120
Speaker 1: hard base of the skeleton that would home a bunch

1033
01:00:23,240 --> 01:00:25,280
Speaker 1: of little polyps. And I'm going to hold it up

1034
01:00:25,720 --> 01:00:28,160
Speaker 1: so you can see each of these little like they

1035
01:00:28,200 --> 01:00:31,080
Speaker 1: look like little holes or little divid's. I don't know

1036
01:00:31,120 --> 01:00:34,280
Speaker 1: how much detail you can get from the it has

1037
01:00:34,320 --> 01:00:39,320
Speaker 1: like little stars on it, Like I'm not little stars right,

1038
01:00:39,400 --> 01:00:43,360
Speaker 1: because that the little time like that was home to

1039
01:00:43,400 --> 01:00:45,640
Speaker 1: each of these polyps that had this like radial sort

1040
01:00:45,640 --> 01:00:49,160
Speaker 1: of branching structure. So each of those little like like

1041
01:00:49,280 --> 01:00:52,320
Speaker 1: feathery kind of star structures is where that that little

1042
01:00:52,320 --> 01:00:55,600
Speaker 1: polyp would have grown and have that like radial symmetry

1043
01:00:55,680 --> 01:00:58,760
Speaker 1: like a c an enemy or like a jellyfish um.

1044
01:00:58,760 --> 01:01:00,920
Speaker 1: But it was like a little indovid jewel. And of

1045
01:01:00,960 --> 01:01:04,520
Speaker 1: course all that's left now is the hard calcified structure

1046
01:01:04,640 --> 01:01:08,640
Speaker 1: or the skeleton. So if you have decorative coral um,

1047
01:01:08,720 --> 01:01:11,480
Speaker 1: that is a skeleton that you have basically. Yeah, I

1048
01:01:11,640 --> 01:01:13,600
Speaker 1: think we used to have. I like because when you

1049
01:01:13,680 --> 01:01:14,920
Speaker 1: when I as soon as I saw that, I was like,

1050
01:01:14,960 --> 01:01:16,560
Speaker 1: that looks familiar. And I feel like we might have

1051
01:01:16,600 --> 01:01:18,480
Speaker 1: had that in my bathroom when we were little, or

1052
01:01:18,560 --> 01:01:22,840
Speaker 1: like it's a common bathroom decade or like like on

1053
01:01:23,120 --> 01:01:25,880
Speaker 1: in like a little display on top of the the back,

1054
01:01:25,880 --> 01:01:29,680
Speaker 1: when we had like you had like the TV cabinet. Yeah,

1055
01:01:29,720 --> 01:01:32,040
Speaker 1: I feel like we had we had like we had

1056
01:01:32,080 --> 01:01:34,000
Speaker 1: like potpourri on one part of it, and we had

1057
01:01:34,520 --> 01:01:37,160
Speaker 1: but we had like pretty rocks and coral on there too,

1058
01:01:37,600 --> 01:01:39,600
Speaker 1: or maybe like my grandparents had it. Yeah, I feel

1059
01:01:39,640 --> 01:01:41,920
Speaker 1: like that was that was a very kind of seventies

1060
01:01:41,960 --> 01:01:46,480
Speaker 1: eighties decorations exactly. Yeah. Yeah, And so it was kind

1061
01:01:46,480 --> 01:01:48,600
Speaker 1: of neat because I was like thinking about this episode

1062
01:01:48,720 --> 01:01:51,000
Speaker 1: and like and I was just like, you know, doing

1063
01:01:51,040 --> 01:01:52,480
Speaker 1: my business in the bathroom. We don't need to go

1064
01:01:52,560 --> 01:01:54,640
Speaker 1: in detail there. But I saw this like on a

1065
01:01:54,680 --> 01:01:57,200
Speaker 1: shelf and it's like, oh, hey, yeah, that's what I'm

1066
01:01:57,200 --> 01:02:01,000
Speaker 1: talking about today. Yeah. Yeah. So, because corals are often

1067
01:02:01,080 --> 01:02:05,160
Speaker 1: huge colonies with hundreds of thousands of individual polyps, and

1068
01:02:05,200 --> 01:02:08,240
Speaker 1: the Great Barrier Reef is one of the world's largest

1069
01:02:08,280 --> 01:02:13,600
Speaker 1: coral systems, with over six hundred distinct coral species. There

1070
01:02:13,640 --> 01:02:17,560
Speaker 1: are millions and millions of individual polyps in the Great

1071
01:02:17,560 --> 01:02:21,880
Speaker 1: Barrier Reef. By my rough calculation, when it is a

1072
01:02:21,880 --> 01:02:26,200
Speaker 1: coral species time to spawn, it gets buck wild in

1073
01:02:26,440 --> 01:02:30,480
Speaker 1: the ocean. So coral are sessile, which is just a

1074
01:02:30,520 --> 01:02:33,720
Speaker 1: way of saying their immobile. They spend their whole time

1075
01:02:33,960 --> 01:02:36,760
Speaker 1: just kind of staying still. Uh, you know, just like

1076
01:02:36,960 --> 01:02:40,400
Speaker 1: we've been on quarantine, we've been sessile. On our couches,

1077
01:02:40,840 --> 01:02:43,880
Speaker 1: and so having sex is a problem because how do

1078
01:02:43,920 --> 01:02:46,560
Speaker 1: you have sex and reproduce when you can't really move.

1079
01:02:47,000 --> 01:02:51,040
Speaker 1: So they will release sperm and egg packets into the water,

1080
01:02:51,600 --> 01:02:53,959
Speaker 1: and once if these sperm and egg packets just happen

1081
01:02:54,000 --> 01:02:57,080
Speaker 1: to bonk into each other, they will fertilize and form

1082
01:02:57,120 --> 01:03:01,040
Speaker 1: an embryo. So in order to match maximize the chance

1083
01:03:01,080 --> 01:03:05,720
Speaker 1: of successful fertilization, they have to synchronize because like if

1084
01:03:05,720 --> 01:03:07,600
Speaker 1: you just like send out your egg or your sperm

1085
01:03:07,640 --> 01:03:10,360
Speaker 1: packet and then it's like nobody else is doing it,

1086
01:03:10,440 --> 01:03:13,240
Speaker 1: maybe one person like way far away is doing it,

1087
01:03:13,240 --> 01:03:14,920
Speaker 1: the chances are going to bonk into each other, it's

1088
01:03:14,960 --> 01:03:18,520
Speaker 1: like pretty minimal. If everyone's doing it. It's a blizzard

1089
01:03:18,560 --> 01:03:20,760
Speaker 1: of sperm and egg packets, and the chance that you're

1090
01:03:20,760 --> 01:03:24,480
Speaker 1: gonna bunk into something and get it fertilized is very high.

1091
01:03:24,840 --> 01:03:27,960
Speaker 1: And so that's what they do. It's this blizzard of

1092
01:03:28,120 --> 01:03:33,400
Speaker 1: coral sperm and eggs, and it's super colorful, so uh

1093
01:03:33,840 --> 01:03:38,120
Speaker 1: like coral, very pretty, very colorful, and so you wouldn't

1094
01:03:38,160 --> 01:03:41,320
Speaker 1: even guess that it's such a such dirty business going

1095
01:03:41,360 --> 01:03:43,440
Speaker 1: on here because it comes in these colors of like

1096
01:03:43,640 --> 01:03:47,720
Speaker 1: yellows and pinks. Uh, and it's like this flurry. Uh.

1097
01:03:47,920 --> 01:03:50,960
Speaker 1: It looks like a magical enchanted blizzard. But you know

1098
01:03:51,200 --> 01:03:54,880
Speaker 1: that's ah, it's coral sex junk happen. Yeah, there's a

1099
01:03:54,880 --> 01:03:57,720
Speaker 1: photo that that I'm looking at here where there's like

1100
01:03:58,440 --> 01:04:01,240
Speaker 1: there's like coral spawning and it looks like like it's

1101
01:04:01,280 --> 01:04:03,520
Speaker 1: like really beautiful. You could put it up as like

1102
01:04:03,600 --> 01:04:07,560
Speaker 1: a photograph like in your home as ascoration. And then

1103
01:04:07,560 --> 01:04:09,840
Speaker 1: there's another one and there's a diver in the middle

1104
01:04:09,840 --> 01:04:13,240
Speaker 1: of it and he looks a little like, Okay, what

1105
01:04:13,320 --> 01:04:16,120
Speaker 1: did I get in the middle of here? Oh? Goh

1106
01:04:16,200 --> 01:04:21,840
Speaker 1: you guys. Gross, guys, just come one. Yeah. It's like

1107
01:04:21,920 --> 01:04:24,560
Speaker 1: it's like a snow globe, Like you turn in the

1108
01:04:24,560 --> 01:04:26,520
Speaker 1: snow globe and you see all these like big sort

1109
01:04:26,560 --> 01:04:29,480
Speaker 1: of like things of snow, except like it's pink and

1110
01:04:29,560 --> 01:04:33,280
Speaker 1: yellow and it's you know, coral sex gou Once they fertilized,

1111
01:04:33,320 --> 01:04:36,840
Speaker 1: this will create new coral polyps. You can actually look

1112
01:04:36,920 --> 01:04:40,680
Speaker 1: like there's an aerial photo too, like that shows these

1113
01:04:40,800 --> 01:04:45,760
Speaker 1: um like mass coral embryos that creates like this pink

1114
01:04:45,880 --> 01:04:48,320
Speaker 1: film on the ocean and look like someone just like

1115
01:04:48,360 --> 01:04:53,720
Speaker 1: spilled a bunch of pink ink. It's beautiful. Uh, it's

1116
01:04:53,760 --> 01:04:55,800
Speaker 1: just but it also like shows you the scale of

1117
01:04:55,840 --> 01:05:00,280
Speaker 1: this event. It's just huge, huge number of who any

1118
01:05:00,400 --> 01:05:03,480
Speaker 1: coral just making babies? And how often does this happen?

1119
01:05:03,720 --> 01:05:07,919
Speaker 1: I think this is a yearly event. I'm not sure

1120
01:05:07,920 --> 01:05:10,560
Speaker 1: if like every species does it every year, but they

1121
01:05:10,600 --> 01:05:17,040
Speaker 1: they like that's staggered enough that this happens relatively often. So,

1122
01:05:17,600 --> 01:05:21,080
Speaker 1: uh should we be worried about this? Uh? Not really,

1123
01:05:21,120 --> 01:05:24,440
Speaker 1: I mean unless you are a fish in a lagoon

1124
01:05:24,640 --> 01:05:28,080
Speaker 1: during an unfortunately timed weather storm that causes coral sex

1125
01:05:28,120 --> 01:05:30,880
Speaker 1: goop to rain down in your home and literally suffocate you.

1126
01:05:31,160 --> 01:05:34,920
Speaker 1: But actually happened nine years ago in a lagoon in

1127
01:05:34,960 --> 01:05:38,120
Speaker 1: an atoll in the Cocoas Island in the Indian Ocean.

1128
01:05:38,480 --> 01:05:41,680
Speaker 1: A fluke storm blew a bunch of coral spawn into

1129
01:05:41,680 --> 01:05:45,520
Speaker 1: a lagoon system, which consumed oxygen, and then the decaying

1130
01:05:45,560 --> 01:05:50,560
Speaker 1: coral uh polyps released methane, which made the water unbreathable

1131
01:05:50,600 --> 01:05:56,040
Speaker 1: by the fish, who suffocated and died on mass. So sometimes, hey,

1132
01:05:56,040 --> 01:06:00,920
Speaker 1: coral sex does kill. Yeah, it's that's like getting caught

1133
01:06:01,000 --> 01:06:07,760
Speaker 1: up in like somebody else's drama. Oh jeez. Yeah, So

1134
01:06:08,520 --> 01:06:10,680
Speaker 1: like it shows you a text like between them and

1135
01:06:10,720 --> 01:06:12,920
Speaker 1: someone they're seeing, and it's like they expect you to

1136
01:06:12,920 --> 01:06:15,960
Speaker 1: resolve the drama. It's like, no, I'm not going to

1137
01:06:16,040 --> 01:06:21,439
Speaker 1: be a fish in your coral right. It's a great

1138
01:06:21,440 --> 01:06:24,720
Speaker 1: way to tell them now I'm fishing your coral sex lagoon. Okay,

1139
01:06:25,040 --> 01:06:27,880
Speaker 1: don't know what you mean, You don't don't know they should.

1140
01:06:29,120 --> 01:06:31,000
Speaker 1: If they don't, you don't want to be their friend anyway, right,

1141
01:06:31,040 --> 01:06:33,760
Speaker 1: exactly exactly. I mean like if they're if they're making

1142
01:06:33,760 --> 01:06:36,160
Speaker 1: you be a fish and they're coral sex again, that's

1143
01:06:36,160 --> 01:06:41,360
Speaker 1: to get out of there. Got those toxic ties. Well,

1144
01:06:41,400 --> 01:06:45,520
Speaker 1: I think we've covered probably as many mass spawning events

1145
01:06:45,560 --> 01:06:49,080
Speaker 1: as I can tolerate in one episode. Um, but yeah,

1146
01:06:49,120 --> 01:06:51,960
Speaker 1: it's it's a it's like it's the beautiful cycle of

1147
01:06:52,040 --> 01:06:57,360
Speaker 1: life which sometimes happens in by the millions. But before

1148
01:06:57,400 --> 01:06:59,680
Speaker 1: we go, I do want to do a listener email

1149
01:07:00,080 --> 01:07:02,360
Speaker 1: that was in response to the last week's episode, which

1150
01:07:02,360 --> 01:07:07,040
Speaker 1: is about bunnies. Mark, you missed the bunnies by one

1151
01:07:07,040 --> 01:07:10,240
Speaker 1: by one week, so instead you had the mass cicada

1152
01:07:10,520 --> 01:07:13,680
Speaker 1: sex episode. I I mean, it's it's still interesting to me.

1153
01:07:13,760 --> 01:07:17,160
Speaker 1: And I got turtles, which I like so that's true.

1154
01:07:17,240 --> 01:07:20,880
Speaker 1: That's true too massive baby turtles. A lot of them

1155
01:07:20,920 --> 01:07:23,720
Speaker 1: are gonna die. But hey, it's but they're cute while

1156
01:07:23,720 --> 01:07:28,480
Speaker 1: they last. Yeah, it's it's an ephemeral thing. Yeah, you know, Yeah,

1157
01:07:28,760 --> 01:07:32,080
Speaker 1: enjoy enjoy the turtles every moment. Don't think about the

1158
01:07:32,120 --> 01:07:34,760
Speaker 1: turtles of the future. Think about the baby turtles of

1159
01:07:34,760 --> 01:07:37,200
Speaker 1: the now. Yeah, it's it's like the those those you know,

1160
01:07:37,240 --> 01:07:39,720
Speaker 1: what are those like the mandala's that they'll make in sand? Yeah,

1161
01:07:39,920 --> 01:07:42,000
Speaker 1: think about think about the beautiful patterns that the turtles

1162
01:07:42,000 --> 01:07:48,240
Speaker 1: making sand and shark and yeah, yeah, yeah, that's that's

1163
01:07:48,320 --> 01:07:52,120
Speaker 1: you know, so it goes. Yeah, well, here is this

1164
01:07:52,280 --> 01:07:56,760
Speaker 1: very nice, not deadly email. Hi Katie. I'm a longtime

1165
01:07:56,800 --> 01:07:59,840
Speaker 1: listener and I really enjoyed your lagomorph episode. I am

1166
01:07:59,840 --> 01:08:03,000
Speaker 1: a bunny owner and an ecologist and really appreciated the

1167
01:08:03,080 --> 01:08:06,280
Speaker 1: love you give to these underappreciated fluff balls. I just

1168
01:08:06,320 --> 01:08:08,240
Speaker 1: wanted to tell you a few cool things that I've

1169
01:08:08,280 --> 01:08:11,880
Speaker 1: learned about pet domestic rabbits. First, they can be letterbox

1170
01:08:11,960 --> 01:08:15,880
Speaker 1: trained fairly easily and successfully, especially if they're spade or newter.

1171
01:08:16,120 --> 01:08:17,479
Speaker 1: I think in the show I threw a little bit

1172
01:08:17,520 --> 01:08:20,080
Speaker 1: of shade at bunnies. I said that you can try

1173
01:08:20,120 --> 01:08:21,880
Speaker 1: to litter box train them, but I think it's sort

1174
01:08:21,880 --> 01:08:25,000
Speaker 1: of on whether they want, whether they feel like it

1175
01:08:25,080 --> 01:08:29,920
Speaker 1: or not. But apparently it's uh like maya copa. Apparently

1176
01:08:30,160 --> 01:08:34,880
Speaker 1: bunnies will fairly readily poop in a litter box. They

1177
01:08:34,920 --> 01:08:38,000
Speaker 1: seem very stubborn domestic. Every domestic bunny I've met has

1178
01:08:38,080 --> 01:08:39,640
Speaker 1: has been like, I have a mind of mind. Like

1179
01:08:39,640 --> 01:08:42,439
Speaker 1: people think cats are hard to control. Bunnies, yeah, yeah,

1180
01:08:42,479 --> 01:08:45,000
Speaker 1: oh but yeah, but it's a whole new like cats

1181
01:08:45,000 --> 01:08:47,280
Speaker 1: are sort of like a little bit, but they're they're

1182
01:08:47,360 --> 01:08:49,559
Speaker 1: coy and playful about it, where they're like, oh maybe

1183
01:08:49,560 --> 01:08:51,800
Speaker 1: will I won't I, But they do. They do love

1184
01:08:51,800 --> 01:08:55,760
Speaker 1: you and they like bunnies. They're like, no, no, you

1185
01:08:55,840 --> 01:08:58,160
Speaker 1: think you're going to get me to do something, I'll

1186
01:08:58,200 --> 01:09:01,400
Speaker 1: kick you in the face and pee on you. Exact

1187
01:09:00,439 --> 01:09:06,599
Speaker 1: happen to me exactly. Although all the listener does admit

1188
01:09:06,720 --> 01:09:10,400
Speaker 1: that there will be an occasional misplaced bunny poop, so

1189
01:09:10,720 --> 01:09:14,559
Speaker 1: hey um. She writes that the secret is to put

1190
01:09:14,640 --> 01:09:16,920
Speaker 1: hay in or next to the litter box so they

1191
01:09:16,920 --> 01:09:20,880
Speaker 1: can eat while they poop or pete Luxury luxurious living

1192
01:09:21,680 --> 01:09:24,559
Speaker 1: um once litter trained, the bunnies can roam in an

1193
01:09:24,560 --> 01:09:27,240
Speaker 1: area of the house freely after some bunny proofing. The

1194
01:09:27,280 --> 01:09:29,800
Speaker 1: House Rabbit Society has lots of information on how to

1195
01:09:29,880 --> 01:09:32,439
Speaker 1: do this. I also just wanted to mention a few

1196
01:09:32,479 --> 01:09:35,559
Speaker 1: other super cute bunny behaviors. When they are very excited,

1197
01:09:35,560 --> 01:09:38,360
Speaker 1: bunnies will do a jump and a shake their bodies midair,

1198
01:09:38,400 --> 01:09:42,679
Speaker 1: which is called a binky. And when they are very relaxed,

1199
01:09:42,720 --> 01:09:46,280
Speaker 1: they will dramatically flop over on their side. Wow, that

1200
01:09:46,439 --> 01:09:49,840
Speaker 1: so cute. I actually had a cat named Binky, and

1201
01:09:49,920 --> 01:09:52,400
Speaker 1: he was He was pretty rabbit like because he was

1202
01:09:52,479 --> 01:09:55,360
Speaker 1: very scared. He never killed anything and would run away.

1203
01:09:55,600 --> 01:09:57,680
Speaker 1: And one time, this is in high school, and I

1204
01:09:57,720 --> 01:09:59,719
Speaker 1: came home and I was, you know, frustrated with school,

1205
01:09:59,720 --> 01:10:02,240
Speaker 1: so I dropped my books on the floor and across

1206
01:10:02,320 --> 01:10:04,479
Speaker 1: the room. I didn't realize the cat was there, and

1207
01:10:04,520 --> 01:10:07,519
Speaker 1: so he jumped like a like three meters into the areas.

1208
01:10:08,080 --> 01:10:11,880
Speaker 1: It's so funny, poor thing. Um. And then then the

1209
01:10:11,920 --> 01:10:15,280
Speaker 1: listeners shared some beautiful pictures of the bunnies which are

1210
01:10:15,400 --> 01:10:19,400
Speaker 1: just for me. So sorry about that. But oh and

1211
01:10:19,439 --> 01:10:22,240
Speaker 1: then and then she writes, I also especially appreciated your

1212
01:10:22,360 --> 01:10:25,400
Speaker 1: b episode I did my master's degree studying native bees

1213
01:10:25,400 --> 01:10:27,840
Speaker 1: in Ontario, so I appreciate it when b species other

1214
01:10:27,840 --> 01:10:30,439
Speaker 1: than honey bees get to mention. Uh, and this is

1215
01:10:30,479 --> 01:10:33,160
Speaker 1: from Emma. Thank you so much, Emma for your kind

1216
01:10:33,200 --> 01:10:37,240
Speaker 1: words and for your bunny facts. So I take it back.

1217
01:10:37,280 --> 01:10:40,800
Speaker 1: Bunnies can be litter box trained, but again, hey, look

1218
01:10:41,439 --> 01:10:44,120
Speaker 1: when they want to, like if they there may be

1219
01:10:44,200 --> 01:10:45,840
Speaker 1: a poop once in a while, and you're just gonna

1220
01:10:45,840 --> 01:10:49,800
Speaker 1: have to deal with it, right. Don't pretend like you

1221
01:10:49,840 --> 01:10:52,519
Speaker 1: can control the bunnies. No, you can't control a bunny.

1222
01:10:52,520 --> 01:10:56,519
Speaker 1: You can't control the bunnies. No, No, they are they're

1223
01:10:57,439 --> 01:11:01,840
Speaker 1: the strong back legs. They can they can slap you. Yeah. My,

1224
01:11:02,160 --> 01:11:04,080
Speaker 1: I have a friend who has bunnies, and she says

1225
01:11:04,120 --> 01:11:06,880
Speaker 1: that they they when they're piste off at you, they'll

1226
01:11:06,880 --> 01:11:08,960
Speaker 1: turn their back on you and kick with their back legs.

1227
01:11:09,040 --> 01:11:12,040
Speaker 1: They'll kick, yes that you, Yeah, which which I love

1228
01:11:12,040 --> 01:11:14,040
Speaker 1: you is. I love that about them. It's just like

1229
01:11:14,120 --> 01:11:16,400
Speaker 1: I love you bunnies for for being for being like

1230
01:11:16,439 --> 01:11:18,760
Speaker 1: the hey, screw you with your back legs. Yeah, I mean,

1231
01:11:18,840 --> 01:11:21,680
Speaker 1: I like that they stand up for themselves because like

1232
01:11:21,720 --> 01:11:23,280
Speaker 1: we have the sense of like, oh, they're just a

1233
01:11:23,280 --> 01:11:28,840
Speaker 1: little floppy bunnies. They don't. They're helpless rabbits. Yeah, yeah, no,

1234
01:11:29,200 --> 01:11:31,920
Speaker 1: I mean it's more like the Peter Rabbit level of

1235
01:11:31,960 --> 01:11:35,439
Speaker 1: like defiance. They Yeah, my sister was bitten by a

1236
01:11:35,479 --> 01:11:40,000
Speaker 1: bunny once. Yeah. Yeah, they got strong teeth, they do. Yeah.

1237
01:11:40,040 --> 01:11:43,040
Speaker 1: She said she had to get a technis shot after Yeah,

1238
01:11:43,080 --> 01:11:46,280
Speaker 1: because oh yeah, because their teeth are so long. Yeah. Wow.

1239
01:11:46,800 --> 01:11:48,479
Speaker 1: She said the shot hurt more than the bite, but

1240
01:11:48,520 --> 01:11:51,880
Speaker 1: it was still very very strange. But I mean basically

1241
01:11:51,920 --> 01:11:55,960
Speaker 1: the bunny is responsible for the shot too, exactly. Insult

1242
01:11:56,120 --> 01:11:59,439
Speaker 1: and injury to injury. Yeah, yeah, no, bunny is a

1243
01:11:59,479 --> 01:12:02,320
Speaker 1: serious but no, Like, I know, buddies are cute. I

1244
01:12:02,320 --> 01:12:05,120
Speaker 1: don't necessarily discourage having bunnies as a pet, but if

1245
01:12:05,160 --> 01:12:08,519
Speaker 1: you want one, definitely look into it, because I would

1246
01:12:08,520 --> 01:12:10,599
Speaker 1: say they are one of the harder pet Like they're

1247
01:12:10,760 --> 01:12:14,479
Speaker 1: harder than a cat or a dog. I would say, so, yeah,

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Speaker 1: just just check it out because because there's a lot

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Speaker 1: of special care you have to do. Uh My, I

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Speaker 1: had a friend who had a bunny and again, like

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Speaker 1: I would pet it and then when it wanted me

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Speaker 1: to stop, it would kick me and pee on me

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Speaker 1: like it was a male, and I think they like

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Speaker 1: to flick your in so so he would kick me

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Speaker 1: in flick your on me, And I was like, you know,

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Speaker 1: I think I'll stick with cats and dogs. Yeah, you

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Speaker 1: can predict they're they're more predictive. I only sometimes get

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Speaker 1: kicked by my dog, and that's usually honest. Yeah, my

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Speaker 1: my cat will will you know, they'll go or maybe

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Speaker 1: they'll hit me or bite me. Lately, if I'm annoying them,

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Speaker 1: I'm like, okay, all right, we'll stop petting you. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: my my dog loves belly rubs. But like once, it's

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Speaker 1: like she's got a very specific you have to pet

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Speaker 1: her very specifically, and if you stopped like she she

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Speaker 1: looks so sweet and angelic. But then if you pet

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Speaker 1: her wrong, like suddenly the little Chihuahua demon face comes

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Speaker 1: into play and it's oh my god, She's like, it's

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Speaker 1: really funny. Satan takes over. Yeah. Well, Mara, thank you

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Speaker 1: so so much for joining me. It's truly been a

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Speaker 1: pleasure to have you on. Big thank you, big fan

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Speaker 1: of you, big fan of your your Twitter and your articles,

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Speaker 1: and so I am you know, trying to keep the

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Speaker 1: fan girling to a minute. No, I mean I love

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Speaker 1: your stuff, and I feel like and I love learning

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Speaker 1: about things that that I don't know a lot about.

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Speaker 1: So this is really cool to me. This is really fascinating.

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Speaker 1: I'm so glad that you could learn about. And I'm

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Speaker 1: sorry about all the about all the coral perversion. It's

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Speaker 1: it's fine, it's fine. I'll give them their space. You know,

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Speaker 1: I'm not going to kink shame them. I mean if

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Speaker 1: they if if you're like in a lagoon and they

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Speaker 1: foist their kink upon you in the look, that's all bloma.

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Speaker 1: It's problematic. You were wandering into their space. Yes, but

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Speaker 1: that was like that. I just there's like a freak

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Speaker 1: storm that dispensed all of this coral sex goo on

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Speaker 1: these poor fish. It's like it's like the like a

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Speaker 1: disaster movie, except a lot of core coral eggs and sperm.

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Speaker 1: Attack of the killer coral, attack of the killer coral

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Speaker 1: coral babies attack. Sounds like there might be a plane,

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Speaker 1: Yeah there is? Or is it a storm of coral stuff.

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Speaker 1: We've angered the coral We angered the corals. Yeah, now

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Speaker 1: there's just gonna be a cyclone of like coral sperm. Sorry. Yeah, Well, well,

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Speaker 1: thank you again for coming on where can people find you? Thanks?

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Speaker 1: They can find me at Marra Wilson on Instagram and Twitter.

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Speaker 1: I also have a cameo. I I do videos where

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Speaker 1: I will talk about you know anything, my cats or

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Speaker 1: cookie recipes or cicadas and what I know. Yeah, and

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Speaker 1: those are really fun to make. I have a newsletter

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Speaker 1: at Mara dot subs dot dot com called We Tell

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Speaker 1: the Vicar because I come up with names for fake

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Speaker 1: British TV shows them every time. I don't want to

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Speaker 1: put you on the spot, but can you can you?

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Speaker 1: I can? I can? Yeah, I can. There's I'm just

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Speaker 1: here to do the hoovering. There's that one the mission

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Speaker 1: quigly bubble and squeak. Uh you know that's perfect. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: it's it's and and and sometimes it's kind of hard

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Speaker 1: to tell which ones are real and which ones are Yeah, no,

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Speaker 1: I would believe it. If it's like like I'm just

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Speaker 1: here to do the hoovering, I would totally think it

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Speaker 1: was one the real one. That's great, And you can

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Speaker 1: find the show on the internet at Creature feature Pot

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Speaker 1: on Instagram, at Creature feet Pot on Twitter. That's f

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Speaker 1: e a T not teeth is something very different. You

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Speaker 1: can also send me an email at Creature feature Pod

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Speaker 1: at gmail dot com with all your questions, bunny pictures,

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Speaker 1: choral questions. If you have a problem with Cicada's making

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Speaker 1: loud sex noises, just let me know send me an email.

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Speaker 1: Uh and I'm Katie Golden. You can find me at

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Speaker 1: Katie Golden on Twitter, where I just post all my

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Speaker 1: Katie thoughts um and as always I'm also pro bored

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Speaker 1: rights um or as pro bird writes me and my

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Speaker 1: birds will find out on Twitter. Thank you so much

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Speaker 1: for listening. If you enjoyed the show and you leave

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Speaker 1: me a rating and review, I will read it and

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Speaker 1: it will make my day. I'll be floating on Cloud

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Speaker 1: nine all day long when you leave nice reviews. I

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Speaker 1: really appreciate them. And thanks to the Space Classics for

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Speaker 1: their super awesome song Exo Lumina. Creature features a production

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Speaker 1: of I Heart Radio. For more podcasts like the one

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Speaker 1: Hey guess what you listen to your favorite shows. I

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Speaker 1: don't judge even if you're listening it in like a

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Speaker 1: coral sex lagoon. That's fine. I'm not here to judge.

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Speaker 1: You just here to provide you with entertainment. See you

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Speaker 1: next Wednesday, m