1 00:00:00,160 --> 00:00:03,160 Speaker 1: Hey, this is Angie and this is Carly, your favorite 2 00:00:03,200 --> 00:00:06,480 Speaker 1: Okay Storytime hosts, and we've got some great stories coming up. 3 00:00:06,519 --> 00:00:08,640 Speaker 2: But before that, we have a quick two minute break 4 00:00:08,640 --> 00:00:10,880 Speaker 2: from our sponsors that keep the show alive. 5 00:00:11,800 --> 00:00:15,400 Speaker 3: My father kept trying to make his son my problem, 6 00:00:15,640 --> 00:00:17,840 Speaker 3: but I refuse to make it mine. 7 00:00:18,000 --> 00:00:21,640 Speaker 4: I'm Heather ric donald and I need to know the background. 8 00:00:21,920 --> 00:00:25,239 Speaker 4: Is this like half sibling or it's because it's weird, 9 00:00:25,280 --> 00:00:25,960 Speaker 4: It's like a riddle. 10 00:00:26,280 --> 00:00:28,200 Speaker 3: It does feel like a real Yeah, all right, let's 11 00:00:28,200 --> 00:00:31,760 Speaker 3: get some context. Yes, I thirty five female, have a 12 00:00:31,920 --> 00:00:36,639 Speaker 3: complicated relationship with both my father and his wife Denise 13 00:00:37,040 --> 00:00:40,720 Speaker 3: fake name for several reasons, some of which are related 14 00:00:40,760 --> 00:00:43,840 Speaker 3: to my half brother. Oh you calling it okay? Jake 15 00:00:44,640 --> 00:00:47,680 Speaker 3: nine years old? Oh boy? By the way, this comes 16 00:00:47,680 --> 00:00:50,600 Speaker 3: from painis Holiday thirty four eighty four And if you 17 00:00:50,600 --> 00:00:53,000 Speaker 3: want to spin your own stories, go to our slash 18 00:00:53,040 --> 00:00:54,320 Speaker 3: Okay Storytime subreddit. 19 00:00:54,600 --> 00:00:57,240 Speaker 5: I'm Riley, I'm Keon, and we have a very special 20 00:00:57,280 --> 00:00:59,800 Speaker 5: guest here today. I know you're introduced yourself, but let 21 00:01:00,000 --> 00:01:01,560 Speaker 5: people know who you are and what you do. 22 00:01:01,880 --> 00:01:05,680 Speaker 4: I am father McDonald, I'm a stand up comedian. I'm 23 00:01:05,720 --> 00:01:08,759 Speaker 4: going to be having a show in Hollywood. It's sold out. 24 00:01:08,800 --> 00:01:12,199 Speaker 4: It's through Netflix as a joke. It's a live Juicy Scoop, 25 00:01:12,200 --> 00:01:14,400 Speaker 4: which is my show that I've had for almost eleven years, 26 00:01:14,440 --> 00:01:16,880 Speaker 4: and it's a podcast YouTube, al shebang. 27 00:01:17,280 --> 00:01:20,759 Speaker 3: All right, Yeah, Netflix is a joke. That's awesome. Well, 28 00:01:20,800 --> 00:01:23,880 Speaker 3: she's gonna help us read some of these crazy stories. 29 00:01:23,920 --> 00:01:27,080 Speaker 3: So back to the nine year old Jake here. There's 30 00:01:27,160 --> 00:01:30,199 Speaker 3: a lot of backstory here, but to some things up, 31 00:01:30,680 --> 00:01:34,639 Speaker 3: Jake exists because Denise wanted a baby and my father 32 00:01:34,800 --> 00:01:37,959 Speaker 3: was upset that both his daughters were moving out. They 33 00:01:38,000 --> 00:01:41,440 Speaker 3: expected me and my sister twenty nine years old to 34 00:01:41,560 --> 00:01:45,320 Speaker 3: have an active role in caring for Jake. That would 35 00:01:45,360 --> 00:01:48,760 Speaker 3: it be possible for either of us, but they continue 36 00:01:48,800 --> 00:01:52,720 Speaker 3: to assume we'd given We didn't, which led to multiple 37 00:01:52,720 --> 00:01:59,400 Speaker 3: fights that soared my relationship with our father. Soward. I think, oh, Soward, 38 00:02:00,560 --> 00:02:05,920 Speaker 3: I can apologies. So Denise also got mad at me 39 00:02:06,040 --> 00:02:10,240 Speaker 3: for refusing to be her village what I got pregnant 40 00:02:10,240 --> 00:02:12,519 Speaker 3: with my first child when Jake was still a baby, 41 00:02:12,840 --> 00:02:16,239 Speaker 3: which made her even more angry that I wouldn't help 42 00:02:16,280 --> 00:02:19,520 Speaker 3: her as much as she wanted. If you want help, 43 00:02:19,520 --> 00:02:22,280 Speaker 3: you gotta start paying for it. Right, Yeah, things at 44 00:02:22,320 --> 00:02:26,960 Speaker 3: their household aren't great. Jake isn't well behaved. My father 45 00:02:27,040 --> 00:02:29,320 Speaker 3: is not a very as He's exhausted. 46 00:02:29,440 --> 00:02:31,640 Speaker 4: He's exhausted. He's like sixty three years old. 47 00:02:32,160 --> 00:02:35,519 Speaker 3: Uh yeah, my father's not a very active parent, although 48 00:02:35,560 --> 00:02:37,560 Speaker 3: he is more present than he used to be. 49 00:02:38,000 --> 00:02:40,560 Speaker 4: Oh, the bitter first child and the. 50 00:02:40,600 --> 00:02:45,400 Speaker 3: Older Jake gets, the more Denise loses interest in parenting. 51 00:02:45,720 --> 00:02:49,440 Speaker 3: What They never stop trying to get me to help 52 00:02:49,480 --> 00:02:50,600 Speaker 3: take care of their son. 53 00:02:50,840 --> 00:02:53,040 Speaker 5: So they want op to be the mom, just to 54 00:02:53,080 --> 00:02:57,079 Speaker 5: be the parent overall compared to themselves, you know, Oh 55 00:02:57,160 --> 00:02:58,760 Speaker 5: my god natural. Yeah. 56 00:02:58,840 --> 00:03:02,720 Speaker 3: Yeah, to this day, whenever they need a babysitter, they 57 00:03:02,760 --> 00:03:06,800 Speaker 3: call me first, even though I'm almost never able to 58 00:03:06,919 --> 00:03:10,520 Speaker 3: do it. They've tried multiple things over the years, but 59 00:03:11,080 --> 00:03:15,160 Speaker 3: most of their current strategies concern my children, Sam eight male, 60 00:03:15,320 --> 00:03:17,800 Speaker 3: and Katie, four female. My kids do not get along 61 00:03:17,840 --> 00:03:18,200 Speaker 3: with Jake. 62 00:03:18,360 --> 00:03:20,400 Speaker 4: But oh that okay, that's interesting. 63 00:03:20,480 --> 00:03:21,120 Speaker 5: That's old Jake. 64 00:03:21,200 --> 00:03:24,520 Speaker 4: Okay, so now we understand because she is a mom 65 00:03:24,760 --> 00:03:28,320 Speaker 4: with similar aged kids. Yeah, they're like, why can't we 66 00:03:28,440 --> 00:03:30,320 Speaker 4: drop off the nine year old? You have an eight 67 00:03:30,320 --> 00:03:32,000 Speaker 4: and a four year old, Like, you're already home with 68 00:03:32,040 --> 00:03:35,280 Speaker 4: your two kids, hang out with your half brother. And 69 00:03:35,920 --> 00:03:40,640 Speaker 4: what's really interesting is as a mom when your kid 70 00:03:41,040 --> 00:03:43,120 Speaker 4: is like, you know, when your couples you have like 71 00:03:43,160 --> 00:03:45,360 Speaker 4: that other family come over and stuff, and maybe for 72 00:03:45,400 --> 00:03:47,320 Speaker 4: a couple of years you really liked the other kid, 73 00:03:47,840 --> 00:03:51,560 Speaker 4: and then all of a sudden you're like, no, they're. 74 00:03:50,560 --> 00:03:51,000 Speaker 3: Mean to me. 75 00:03:51,560 --> 00:03:55,200 Speaker 4: They hit me when you're not looking, they cheat at monopoly, whatever. 76 00:03:55,920 --> 00:03:58,560 Speaker 4: And then as the parent, you're like, it's so uncomfortable 77 00:03:58,600 --> 00:04:02,080 Speaker 4: to be like, no, oh, my son's busy tonight, and 78 00:04:02,480 --> 00:04:06,680 Speaker 4: so this is really uncomfortable because it's family, and she 79 00:04:06,880 --> 00:04:09,720 Speaker 4: just has to just say, you know, at this time, 80 00:04:10,960 --> 00:04:16,480 Speaker 4: we are just not having friends over, like my child there. 81 00:04:16,640 --> 00:04:18,880 Speaker 4: It's just going to be the us four of us tonight. No, 82 00:04:18,960 --> 00:04:21,360 Speaker 4: I can't watch him. And the more she says it, 83 00:04:21,760 --> 00:04:23,760 Speaker 4: they'll get over it and then just be like, but 84 00:04:24,360 --> 00:04:27,200 Speaker 4: I'm going to be there for Mother's Day, or we're 85 00:04:27,240 --> 00:04:29,880 Speaker 4: gonna all spend easier together, or like, just do the 86 00:04:29,920 --> 00:04:32,960 Speaker 4: fun thing that's like a family thing. Get out of 87 00:04:33,000 --> 00:04:35,720 Speaker 4: the babysitting, get out of them dropping him off. But 88 00:04:35,800 --> 00:04:39,359 Speaker 4: that's what it is. He's probably very pesty and annoying 89 00:04:39,839 --> 00:04:42,800 Speaker 4: because he's an only child, so there and he probably 90 00:04:42,839 --> 00:04:46,840 Speaker 4: wants to go over to his nephew's house, who's eight 91 00:04:46,880 --> 00:04:49,520 Speaker 4: years old. Right, this would be it would be his 92 00:04:49,640 --> 00:04:53,640 Speaker 4: nephew because he's the half brother, so he's like uncle annoying. 93 00:04:54,120 --> 00:04:55,880 Speaker 4: But they're only a year apart, and they're both in 94 00:04:55,920 --> 00:04:58,200 Speaker 4: the fourth grade, and he's like, I want to come over, 95 00:04:58,360 --> 00:05:01,040 Speaker 4: and so she does to put her foot down and 96 00:05:01,120 --> 00:05:04,039 Speaker 4: just be like, as a parent, this dynamic is no 97 00:05:04,120 --> 00:05:06,680 Speaker 4: longer working for me. But I love you and like, 98 00:05:06,760 --> 00:05:08,839 Speaker 4: let's all hang out together as the family. But the 99 00:05:08,960 --> 00:05:12,279 Speaker 4: dynamic between our eight nine year olds doesn't work for 100 00:05:12,320 --> 00:05:14,919 Speaker 4: me or for my child. So you're gonna have to 101 00:05:14,920 --> 00:05:17,200 Speaker 4: get a sitter or find other friends for him to 102 00:05:17,200 --> 00:05:17,600 Speaker 4: play with. 103 00:05:17,960 --> 00:05:21,000 Speaker 3: That that's fair. You're better than me. I would I 104 00:05:21,040 --> 00:05:24,359 Speaker 3: would have said, oh my boys, Sam, he's grounded. He 105 00:05:24,400 --> 00:05:28,400 Speaker 3: can't go outside for the next two years. Apologies. Yeah, 106 00:05:28,440 --> 00:05:31,200 Speaker 3: it's not gonna have to hap him, right, But that's smart. 107 00:05:31,240 --> 00:05:34,719 Speaker 3: I like that. So they tried setting up playdates aka 108 00:05:34,880 --> 00:05:36,520 Speaker 3: Denise dumping Jake on nact. 109 00:05:36,640 --> 00:05:39,320 Speaker 4: They knew that. Yeah, I basically predicted that whole thing. 110 00:05:39,520 --> 00:05:40,240 Speaker 6: What she was doing. 111 00:05:40,320 --> 00:05:43,840 Speaker 3: Yeah, and my kids while she went shopping making them 112 00:05:43,920 --> 00:05:47,800 Speaker 3: share a room on family vacations, and my father even 113 00:05:47,839 --> 00:05:51,960 Speaker 3: considered changing Jake to Sam's school a few years ago. 114 00:05:52,320 --> 00:05:55,040 Speaker 3: Oh my gosh. Every time there's an opportunity to make 115 00:05:55,080 --> 00:05:58,520 Speaker 3: the kids spend time together, they push for it. That 116 00:05:58,560 --> 00:06:03,600 Speaker 3: brings us to now we're at her breaking points. Oh. So, 117 00:06:03,920 --> 00:06:06,160 Speaker 3: my husband and I are planning a trip to France 118 00:06:06,560 --> 00:06:11,160 Speaker 3: with their children in September to celebrate Katie's fifth birthday. Wow, 119 00:06:11,240 --> 00:06:12,640 Speaker 3: that is a that's. 120 00:06:12,480 --> 00:06:13,560 Speaker 4: A big trip for a five. 121 00:06:13,760 --> 00:06:15,000 Speaker 5: I was gonna say, is it for Katie or is 122 00:06:15,040 --> 00:06:15,359 Speaker 5: it for you? 123 00:06:15,480 --> 00:06:16,440 Speaker 3: Guys? 124 00:06:17,360 --> 00:06:19,320 Speaker 4: Katie wants to go to fashion Week in Paris. 125 00:06:20,520 --> 00:06:24,000 Speaker 3: Okay, She's been one this since she was three. 126 00:06:23,520 --> 00:06:26,640 Speaker 4: Her whole life. She was like, I just want to 127 00:06:26,680 --> 00:06:28,360 Speaker 4: bag at and walk. 128 00:06:28,160 --> 00:06:31,279 Speaker 5: To I want to bag at in a coffee for 129 00:06:31,320 --> 00:06:33,320 Speaker 5: the last four years and I. 130 00:06:32,560 --> 00:06:34,799 Speaker 4: Walk up the Eiffel Tower stairs. 131 00:06:36,120 --> 00:06:40,440 Speaker 3: We don't travel much, and the trip will include Disneyland Paris, 132 00:06:40,800 --> 00:06:44,840 Speaker 3: so the kids are thrilled. Okay, okay, well still yeah. 133 00:06:44,920 --> 00:06:48,120 Speaker 3: My father found out and decided to propose that we 134 00:06:48,200 --> 00:06:49,760 Speaker 3: bring Shake with us. 135 00:06:50,120 --> 00:06:52,960 Speaker 5: Jake, your kid, uncle Jakie. Yeah. 136 00:06:53,000 --> 00:06:55,919 Speaker 3: He said he'd pay for all of the expenses of 137 00:06:56,080 --> 00:06:56,800 Speaker 3: just the kid or. 138 00:06:56,800 --> 00:07:00,799 Speaker 4: The whole trip. Different Okay, Well, no, that's not enough, 139 00:07:01,480 --> 00:07:03,920 Speaker 4: because if you're going to bring a nanny on this trip, 140 00:07:04,279 --> 00:07:07,400 Speaker 4: that nanny would probably get another like, you know, couple 141 00:07:07,520 --> 00:07:11,040 Speaker 4: grand at least minimum, maybe more, and she would also 142 00:07:11,120 --> 00:07:14,320 Speaker 4: have like eight hour shifts off. So you're asking her 143 00:07:14,400 --> 00:07:16,360 Speaker 4: to be a full time nanny for a week and 144 00:07:16,360 --> 00:07:19,679 Speaker 4: a half long trip, no time off, no time off, 145 00:07:19,840 --> 00:07:20,200 Speaker 4: and no. 146 00:07:20,440 --> 00:07:21,320 Speaker 3: And you have. 147 00:07:21,240 --> 00:07:23,920 Speaker 4: To say it's got to stop here because otherwise it's 148 00:07:24,000 --> 00:07:27,480 Speaker 4: never gonna stop. It's gonna happen every other trip because 149 00:07:27,480 --> 00:07:29,640 Speaker 4: he's an only child and because they don't want to 150 00:07:29,640 --> 00:07:30,680 Speaker 4: hang out with him that much. 151 00:07:30,800 --> 00:07:33,040 Speaker 3: Ye, Katie's going to turn six and she wants to 152 00:07:33,080 --> 00:07:36,440 Speaker 3: go to I don't know, who's Vegistan. Yeah, what are 153 00:07:36,440 --> 00:07:37,800 Speaker 3: we gonna do with Jake? Then we're gonna take her 154 00:07:37,800 --> 00:07:39,400 Speaker 3: to who's Begastan Antarctica? 155 00:07:39,480 --> 00:07:40,000 Speaker 4: Who knows? 156 00:07:40,160 --> 00:07:43,080 Speaker 3: Yeah, where will Katie go? He said he paid for 157 00:07:43,120 --> 00:07:46,320 Speaker 3: all the expenses, fly and hotels so his son could 158 00:07:46,360 --> 00:07:49,760 Speaker 3: go to Europe with my family. I said, no, we 159 00:07:49,880 --> 00:07:52,520 Speaker 3: wanted the trip just to be us and our kids. Yeah, 160 00:07:52,680 --> 00:07:55,640 Speaker 3: that right. He kept insisting that Jake would love to 161 00:07:55,720 --> 00:07:59,040 Speaker 3: go to Disney with us, that he and Denise really 162 00:07:59,080 --> 00:08:03,600 Speaker 3: wanted some nine child free time and that they'd appreciate 163 00:08:03,640 --> 00:08:06,320 Speaker 3: it if I took care of my little brother like 164 00:08:06,400 --> 00:08:07,320 Speaker 3: a good sister. 165 00:08:07,840 --> 00:08:07,920 Speaker 1: No. 166 00:08:08,360 --> 00:08:10,800 Speaker 5: What, you just made it easier for OP to say no. 167 00:08:11,160 --> 00:08:15,800 Speaker 3: Yeah, you think we'd like some family time without our uncle. Dude, 168 00:08:16,080 --> 00:08:18,280 Speaker 3: poor Jake. I feel so bad for Jake. We had 169 00:08:18,320 --> 00:08:21,560 Speaker 3: an argument, okay, and I ended up losing my patience. 170 00:08:22,000 --> 00:08:24,320 Speaker 3: I told my father that he needs to accept that 171 00:08:24,440 --> 00:08:27,600 Speaker 3: Jake is not my responsibility and never will be, and 172 00:08:27,640 --> 00:08:31,200 Speaker 3: that he and Denise should have thought about their child 173 00:08:31,320 --> 00:08:37,040 Speaker 3: free time before having a child. Yeah, my father is furious. 174 00:08:37,679 --> 00:08:40,720 Speaker 3: Excuse me of saying I wish Jake was never born. 175 00:08:41,000 --> 00:08:42,760 Speaker 3: I didn't. That is not what she said. Oh my god, 176 00:08:42,760 --> 00:08:45,640 Speaker 3: my god, and called me an ungrateful brat for refusing 177 00:08:45,679 --> 00:08:48,320 Speaker 3: to take care of my brother. Denise Flater called me 178 00:08:48,720 --> 00:08:51,480 Speaker 3: to yell a few insults as well. I don't think 179 00:08:51,520 --> 00:08:54,240 Speaker 3: I'm in the wrong for refusing to bring Jake along, 180 00:08:54,640 --> 00:08:57,040 Speaker 3: but I'm not proud of what I said to my dad. 181 00:08:57,480 --> 00:09:00,280 Speaker 3: My husband is on my side, but thanks, I was 182 00:09:00,280 --> 00:09:02,720 Speaker 3: too harsh. So that's the end of this first update. 183 00:09:02,760 --> 00:09:04,920 Speaker 3: We have a little bit of an edit to okay 184 00:09:05,200 --> 00:09:08,720 Speaker 3: clarify some things I didn't explain this clearly enough. But 185 00:09:08,920 --> 00:09:12,280 Speaker 3: my father only offered to pay for Jake's flights and 186 00:09:12,400 --> 00:09:14,440 Speaker 3: whatever extra accommodation, right, I was. 187 00:09:14,440 --> 00:09:16,240 Speaker 4: Saying, is he paying for the whole family? No, he's 188 00:09:16,280 --> 00:09:17,560 Speaker 4: just paying for his own child. 189 00:09:17,840 --> 00:09:21,080 Speaker 3: Yep, he did not offer to fly my whole family. 190 00:09:21,679 --> 00:09:23,760 Speaker 4: That'd be a different story, right, It would be like. 191 00:09:23,840 --> 00:09:26,440 Speaker 3: Oh, sure Jake could come along. We're saving Yeah. 192 00:09:26,520 --> 00:09:28,520 Speaker 4: Like yeah. If he's like, you know, paying thirty grand 193 00:09:28,600 --> 00:09:30,880 Speaker 4: or something and they're staying at the nicest hotels, then 194 00:09:30,960 --> 00:09:33,720 Speaker 4: that is like a little job for her, you know, like, Okay, 195 00:09:33,760 --> 00:09:35,440 Speaker 4: I'll take the other kid. If you're gonna pay for 196 00:09:35,440 --> 00:09:36,720 Speaker 4: the whole vacation. 197 00:09:36,600 --> 00:09:39,720 Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, Sam, you're gonna have to be good. 198 00:09:39,800 --> 00:09:40,199 Speaker 4: Yeah. 199 00:09:40,280 --> 00:09:40,439 Speaker 1: Oh. 200 00:09:40,480 --> 00:09:42,720 Speaker 3: We got some comments from people, and op responds to them. 201 00:09:43,040 --> 00:09:47,640 Speaker 3: So dazzling Grass fifty five says, not the ahole. I 202 00:09:47,640 --> 00:09:51,920 Speaker 3: think your step mother and father are ridiculous. If they 203 00:09:51,960 --> 00:09:55,520 Speaker 3: wanted child free time, why not get a babysitter and 204 00:09:55,600 --> 00:09:59,160 Speaker 3: go on vacation, or better yet, all go on a 205 00:09:59,200 --> 00:10:02,640 Speaker 3: family vacation. I think your father fails to realize you 206 00:10:02,760 --> 00:10:05,559 Speaker 3: have a family of your own now and they aren't 207 00:10:05,600 --> 00:10:09,680 Speaker 3: the main priority. Opie responds, I think this happens mostly 208 00:10:09,760 --> 00:10:13,800 Speaker 3: because I'm the eldest. Honestly, he's always expected me to 209 00:10:13,920 --> 00:10:15,880 Speaker 3: be more of a caretaker. Yeah. 210 00:10:15,960 --> 00:10:20,560 Speaker 4: First firstborn females are like they like rule the world. 211 00:10:20,880 --> 00:10:21,720 Speaker 6: Yeah yeah. 212 00:10:21,920 --> 00:10:24,920 Speaker 3: Obi says. My father wasn't a very active parent to 213 00:10:25,000 --> 00:10:28,280 Speaker 3: me and my sister when we were babies, so I 214 00:10:28,320 --> 00:10:30,760 Speaker 3: feel like he expected us to help when Jake was 215 00:10:30,760 --> 00:10:33,280 Speaker 3: a baby so that he wouldn't have to put too 216 00:10:33,400 --> 00:10:37,160 Speaker 3: much elbow grease into it. And Denise very openly expected 217 00:10:37,240 --> 00:10:41,920 Speaker 3: us to be okay with doing unpaid babysitting whenever she asked, 218 00:10:42,200 --> 00:10:46,960 Speaker 3: Oh my gosh, uh, someone asked, where's Opie's sister, Obi says. 219 00:10:47,000 --> 00:10:50,000 Speaker 3: My sister lives with her boyfriend currently no kids, in 220 00:10:50,040 --> 00:10:53,600 Speaker 3: a different state, but she speaks with her father a lot. 221 00:10:54,080 --> 00:10:56,760 Speaker 3: They talk at least once a week. Their relationship was 222 00:10:56,880 --> 00:11:00,360 Speaker 3: awful back when Jake was born, but it's it's got 223 00:11:00,440 --> 00:11:03,120 Speaker 3: much better. He was always more upset at me because 224 00:11:03,240 --> 00:11:06,040 Speaker 3: I'm the eldest. We all try to visit each other 225 00:11:06,160 --> 00:11:09,440 Speaker 3: a few times a year, and strangely enough, the Jake 226 00:11:09,559 --> 00:11:12,840 Speaker 3: situation brought me and my sister closer together because they 227 00:11:12,840 --> 00:11:13,760 Speaker 3: have a common enemy. 228 00:11:14,200 --> 00:11:17,760 Speaker 4: Totally, I got on the phone, and they about Denise 229 00:11:18,080 --> 00:11:21,520 Speaker 4: and Jake, and like their lazy old dad, they couldn't 230 00:11:21,600 --> 00:11:24,760 Speaker 4: keep it in his pants. And yeah, that brought them 231 00:11:25,040 --> 00:11:27,400 Speaker 4: much closer together. So that's one good good thing. 232 00:11:29,160 --> 00:11:32,839 Speaker 3: Despite the distance, we're closer than ever right now. Okay, 233 00:11:32,880 --> 00:11:36,080 Speaker 3: we have some stuff on Jake's behavior. He's spoiled, but 234 00:11:36,520 --> 00:11:44,880 Speaker 3: oh my god, Erica. 235 00:11:41,240 --> 00:11:43,640 Speaker 4: Is from chocolate factory. 236 00:11:43,800 --> 00:11:44,079 Speaker 7: Okay. 237 00:11:44,720 --> 00:11:48,960 Speaker 3: He's mostly rude. He makes fun of people, does mean pranks, 238 00:11:49,160 --> 00:11:51,480 Speaker 3: and refuses to listen when you tell him to stop 239 00:11:51,520 --> 00:11:55,960 Speaker 3: doing something. Denise also refuses to discipline him in any 240 00:11:56,160 --> 00:11:59,000 Speaker 3: real way, which I think is reflected in the way 241 00:11:59,080 --> 00:12:04,479 Speaker 3: he doesn't really respect other people, especially women. Oh oh, 242 00:12:04,559 --> 00:12:07,040 Speaker 3: I will say that I do limit the amount of 243 00:12:07,080 --> 00:12:10,079 Speaker 3: time my kids spend with Jake. Okay, great, especially now 244 00:12:10,080 --> 00:12:12,560 Speaker 3: that I know for sure they don't like him. I 245 00:12:12,600 --> 00:12:16,000 Speaker 3: don't agree to play dates, and only really babysit if 246 00:12:16,000 --> 00:12:19,800 Speaker 3: there's literally no other option. In the past two years, 247 00:12:19,920 --> 00:12:22,240 Speaker 3: I agreed to babysit Jake once. 248 00:12:22,800 --> 00:12:25,840 Speaker 4: Wait, she's only watched him once and they still are like, Hey, 249 00:12:25,840 --> 00:12:26,559 Speaker 4: can he go to. 250 00:12:26,960 --> 00:12:31,079 Speaker 3: Europe with you? Yeah? Jeez, Okay, they need they need 251 00:12:31,120 --> 00:12:34,319 Speaker 3: their own couple's time. Yeah, yeah, they need a couple. 252 00:12:34,440 --> 00:12:37,320 Speaker 4: So all right, Well, I mean I think we've answered 253 00:12:37,320 --> 00:12:39,439 Speaker 4: the question. I mean, he's not going on the trip. 254 00:12:39,559 --> 00:12:40,240 Speaker 3: Absolutely not. 255 00:12:40,800 --> 00:12:41,160 Speaker 4: Okay. 256 00:12:41,920 --> 00:12:45,360 Speaker 3: More on Opie's family, I am almost certain this wouldn't 257 00:12:45,440 --> 00:12:48,320 Speaker 3: be happening if I were a man. You're totally right. 258 00:12:48,640 --> 00:12:52,360 Speaker 4: Yeah, But if you're a man, they'd probably be asking 259 00:12:52,640 --> 00:12:55,240 Speaker 4: your wife to do it, and your wife would be like, 260 00:12:55,280 --> 00:12:56,680 Speaker 4: I'm not going to do it, and then they'd be 261 00:12:56,720 --> 00:12:59,199 Speaker 4: like you married, and it would be her fault. 262 00:12:59,400 --> 00:12:59,960 Speaker 6: So you're right. 263 00:13:00,240 --> 00:13:02,760 Speaker 3: And Denise did want a girl, not to make her 264 00:13:02,800 --> 00:13:05,360 Speaker 3: a caretaker, just because she thought it would be cute 265 00:13:05,679 --> 00:13:07,080 Speaker 3: to have a mini me. 266 00:13:07,800 --> 00:13:09,479 Speaker 4: Ugh, I hate that expression. 267 00:13:09,920 --> 00:13:11,920 Speaker 3: I think one of the reasons she resents me is 268 00:13:11,960 --> 00:13:16,000 Speaker 3: the fact that I did have a daughter. As for culture, 269 00:13:16,120 --> 00:13:22,000 Speaker 3: we're all one South American. Denise has German ancestry, but 270 00:13:22,559 --> 00:13:25,360 Speaker 3: not in any ways that matter. We do have a 271 00:13:25,400 --> 00:13:29,439 Speaker 3: strong notion of the meaning family in my country, but 272 00:13:29,520 --> 00:13:33,160 Speaker 3: not specifically to the point older siblings are always expected 273 00:13:33,200 --> 00:13:36,640 Speaker 3: to care for the younger one. Denise is Christian, my 274 00:13:36,760 --> 00:13:40,680 Speaker 3: father is a reluctant churchgoer, and neither me or my 275 00:13:40,800 --> 00:13:46,640 Speaker 3: husband practice any religion. Update seven days later, any predictions. 276 00:13:46,360 --> 00:13:49,959 Speaker 4: Uh, I think she told him, and now they're not speaking. Yeah, 277 00:13:50,440 --> 00:13:53,280 Speaker 4: no contact, and she's gonna be like, this is going 278 00:13:53,320 --> 00:13:56,720 Speaker 4: to say, well, I told him that he couldn't go 279 00:13:56,800 --> 00:14:00,160 Speaker 4: to Disneyland, and they said, I can't believe it. And 280 00:14:00,240 --> 00:14:02,600 Speaker 4: I haven't seen them since I did run them into 281 00:14:02,800 --> 00:14:05,360 Speaker 4: I ran into them at church and he acted like 282 00:14:05,400 --> 00:14:08,120 Speaker 4: he didn't know us, and now it's been seven days. 283 00:14:08,160 --> 00:14:09,320 Speaker 4: That's what I think it's gonna say. 284 00:14:10,000 --> 00:14:13,480 Speaker 3: First of all, I don't regret posting here, and I'm 285 00:14:13,559 --> 00:14:16,400 Speaker 3: very thankful for all of your responses, but I want 286 00:14:16,440 --> 00:14:19,320 Speaker 3: to make it clear that my relationship with my father, 287 00:14:19,640 --> 00:14:24,520 Speaker 3: like all relationships, is very nuanced. Nuanced. I will try 288 00:14:24,600 --> 00:14:28,240 Speaker 3: to defend him, and I don't think he's a great guy, 289 00:14:28,760 --> 00:14:31,720 Speaker 3: but he is my father and I love him. This 290 00:14:31,880 --> 00:14:34,600 Speaker 3: is a very small part of my life, and I'm 291 00:14:34,640 --> 00:14:37,560 Speaker 3: not willing to completely cut ties with him over it. 292 00:14:37,920 --> 00:14:41,760 Speaker 3: Oh that's nice. I am, however, willing to go low contact, 293 00:14:41,880 --> 00:14:46,080 Speaker 3: which that's what you said, Yeah, which is what I've 294 00:14:46,120 --> 00:14:50,040 Speaker 3: decided to do. My sister flew over on Friday to 295 00:14:50,080 --> 00:14:53,440 Speaker 3: spend her birthday weekend with us. On Saturday, we did 296 00:14:53,480 --> 00:14:56,320 Speaker 3: what we do every year on her birthday, lunch with 297 00:14:56,360 --> 00:14:59,320 Speaker 3: her mother, dinner with her father. He hosted it at 298 00:14:59,360 --> 00:15:04,480 Speaker 3: his place. It wasn't as tense or awkward as I expected. 299 00:15:04,920 --> 00:15:09,520 Speaker 3: But Denise barely spoke to me and my husband all night. 300 00:15:09,960 --> 00:15:14,840 Speaker 3: Oh and Jake was there and behaved better than usual. 301 00:15:15,240 --> 00:15:18,920 Speaker 5: Oh. They probably told Jake, if you behave on it, yeah, 302 00:15:19,160 --> 00:15:23,080 Speaker 5: your best behavior, maybe your sister will take you to Disney. 303 00:15:23,400 --> 00:15:26,680 Speaker 5: How does that sound, Jakie right, if you have good manners, 304 00:15:27,240 --> 00:15:28,040 Speaker 5: it's good to work. 305 00:15:28,320 --> 00:15:29,720 Speaker 3: Yeah, that's exactly. 306 00:15:29,760 --> 00:15:31,560 Speaker 5: Don't fall for it. Don't fall for it. 307 00:15:31,640 --> 00:15:33,640 Speaker 3: You want to see Mickey Mouse, This is how you 308 00:15:33,680 --> 00:15:36,280 Speaker 3: get to do it. After my sister left, my father 309 00:15:36,400 --> 00:15:39,960 Speaker 3: and Denise asked to speak with us in private. I 310 00:15:40,040 --> 00:15:43,680 Speaker 3: ended up going on my own while my husband stayed 311 00:15:43,680 --> 00:15:46,320 Speaker 3: with the kids in the living room. They made me 312 00:15:46,640 --> 00:15:50,360 Speaker 3: an offer. Oh my gosh. They said Denise would agree 313 00:15:50,600 --> 00:15:55,200 Speaker 3: to babysit my children every other Saturday, which they repeatedly 314 00:15:55,240 --> 00:16:00,000 Speaker 3: said would be a tremendous oh great and extremely income, 315 00:16:01,320 --> 00:16:04,680 Speaker 3: both to get them better acquainted with Jake and give 316 00:16:04,760 --> 00:16:08,080 Speaker 3: us some more time off. If I agreed to reconsider 317 00:16:08,320 --> 00:16:11,920 Speaker 3: letting their son come to France with us deal or 318 00:16:11,960 --> 00:16:16,360 Speaker 3: no deal, absolutely not. Alternatively, they said they'd be willing 319 00:16:16,560 --> 00:16:21,080 Speaker 3: to let go of their disappointment about the trip if 320 00:16:21,120 --> 00:16:24,600 Speaker 3: my husband and I agreed to babysit Jake every other 321 00:16:24,760 --> 00:16:28,600 Speaker 3: Saturday until September so that they could have some free time. 322 00:16:28,800 --> 00:16:34,600 Speaker 3: They expected me to choose either option. Wow, okay, Ope, 323 00:16:34,720 --> 00:16:36,360 Speaker 3: says I said no to both. 324 00:16:36,520 --> 00:16:37,080 Speaker 7: Good for you. 325 00:16:37,200 --> 00:16:39,640 Speaker 3: Oh my gosh. This was the first time in a 326 00:16:39,680 --> 00:16:43,120 Speaker 3: while that I didn't even fill the need to explain myself. 327 00:16:43,200 --> 00:16:47,760 Speaker 3: My father tried to end the conversation, but Denise started 328 00:16:48,000 --> 00:16:51,480 Speaker 3: ranting about how exhausted she was and how horrible it 329 00:16:51,520 --> 00:16:54,720 Speaker 3: felt not to be able to rely on family. When 330 00:16:54,800 --> 00:16:57,800 Speaker 3: she was done, I told them not to contact me 331 00:16:58,000 --> 00:17:01,640 Speaker 3: until they were ready to apologize, and went to get 332 00:17:01,680 --> 00:17:06,040 Speaker 3: my children beautifully done. 333 00:17:06,280 --> 00:17:09,000 Speaker 4: That's awesome, finally, Yeah right. 334 00:17:08,520 --> 00:17:12,120 Speaker 3: Denise thankfully didn't have a meltdown in front of them 335 00:17:12,160 --> 00:17:15,520 Speaker 3: before we left. Earlier today, I got a text from 336 00:17:15,560 --> 00:17:19,760 Speaker 3: my father. He said he wanted to apologize. Okay, I'm 337 00:17:19,800 --> 00:17:23,080 Speaker 3: not believing this, and we ended up on a phone call. 338 00:17:23,480 --> 00:17:28,119 Speaker 3: Apparently he realized they were being unreasonable during the dinner, 339 00:17:28,320 --> 00:17:31,399 Speaker 3: but decided to go through with the offer anyway. So 340 00:17:31,400 --> 00:17:32,919 Speaker 3: he's still trying to figure out a way to make 341 00:17:32,960 --> 00:17:37,040 Speaker 3: this happen, right, He's not letting it go. No, I 342 00:17:37,119 --> 00:17:41,000 Speaker 3: asked some weather Jake knew about the trip, which had 343 00:17:41,040 --> 00:17:44,640 Speaker 3: been bugging me, and he said no. Denise apparently wanted 344 00:17:44,640 --> 00:17:47,600 Speaker 3: to tell him that we were going to Disney and 345 00:17:47,800 --> 00:17:51,880 Speaker 3: refused to take him with us, but we told her 346 00:17:52,359 --> 00:17:54,919 Speaker 3: that was cruel and pointless. 347 00:17:55,359 --> 00:17:58,560 Speaker 4: So she had like a meltdown and was like, you know, 348 00:17:58,600 --> 00:18:01,439 Speaker 4: you always act like this and that is why your 349 00:18:01,480 --> 00:18:04,600 Speaker 4: sister doesn't want to take you with your niece and 350 00:18:04,720 --> 00:18:10,480 Speaker 4: nephew uncle Jake who's nine, to Disneyland, because you are 351 00:18:10,600 --> 00:18:11,280 Speaker 4: a little turd. 352 00:18:11,440 --> 00:18:13,600 Speaker 3: Yeah, well she wanted to. I don't think she did 353 00:18:13,640 --> 00:18:14,000 Speaker 3: yet though. 354 00:18:14,160 --> 00:18:15,000 Speaker 4: Oh she didn't say it. 355 00:18:15,040 --> 00:18:17,520 Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, but that is definitely what's running in your head. 356 00:18:17,359 --> 00:18:18,680 Speaker 4: Though, Yeah, totally. 357 00:18:18,800 --> 00:18:22,280 Speaker 3: Oh my gosh. We did get some more stuff out 358 00:18:22,359 --> 00:18:25,119 Speaker 3: of the way, but the talk felt more like an 359 00:18:25,119 --> 00:18:29,680 Speaker 3: attempt to give excuses than an apology. In the end, 360 00:18:29,760 --> 00:18:31,840 Speaker 3: I told him I was going to need some space. 361 00:18:32,400 --> 00:18:35,000 Speaker 3: I said that the way they had treated me was 362 00:18:35,119 --> 00:18:39,040 Speaker 3: unacceptable and it is only my love for both of 363 00:18:39,080 --> 00:18:42,680 Speaker 3: them and Jake that is keeping me from completely cutting ties. 364 00:18:43,160 --> 00:18:45,879 Speaker 3: I added that I loathed the way his wife and 365 00:18:45,960 --> 00:18:49,359 Speaker 3: their son treat me and my children, and I'm sick 366 00:18:49,400 --> 00:18:53,280 Speaker 3: of being expected to bend over backwards to help him 367 00:18:53,720 --> 00:18:56,520 Speaker 3: and Denise. All Right, we're kind of laying down the 368 00:18:56,600 --> 00:18:59,560 Speaker 3: law right here. I like this. If patters are to 369 00:18:59,680 --> 00:19:03,280 Speaker 3: be believed, I won't be hearing about this for a while. 370 00:19:03,840 --> 00:19:07,120 Speaker 3: I don't think the matter is closed, but I don't care. 371 00:19:07,720 --> 00:19:10,240 Speaker 3: I did mute Denise's contact for now. How are you 372 00:19:10,280 --> 00:19:13,119 Speaker 3: feeling about Ope setting these boundaries? Good? 373 00:19:13,400 --> 00:19:16,480 Speaker 4: Hope, She text chem and Yeah. 374 00:19:16,440 --> 00:19:19,280 Speaker 3: Yeah, he's because the dad's really trying to wear it 375 00:19:19,280 --> 00:19:19,840 Speaker 3: down on her. 376 00:19:20,320 --> 00:19:22,280 Speaker 4: Yeah, and the fact that she kept coming back. I mean, 377 00:19:22,320 --> 00:19:24,240 Speaker 4: she's this has really been a huge thing for a 378 00:19:24,240 --> 00:19:26,280 Speaker 4: couple of years. So I'm glad that she's finally made 379 00:19:26,359 --> 00:19:27,760 Speaker 4: some headway and put her foot down. 380 00:19:28,160 --> 00:19:30,880 Speaker 3: Yeah right, Hope, he says. My husband and I are 381 00:19:31,240 --> 00:19:34,600 Speaker 3: doing great. We're back to talking about the trip. If 382 00:19:34,640 --> 00:19:36,800 Speaker 3: anyone has trips, let me know. It turns out we 383 00:19:36,840 --> 00:19:40,320 Speaker 3: suck at this. Sam and Katie have no idea about 384 00:19:40,359 --> 00:19:43,760 Speaker 3: anything that's happened, but I'm going to have a deeper 385 00:19:43,800 --> 00:19:46,920 Speaker 3: talk with them about Jake, my father, and Denise soon. 386 00:19:47,400 --> 00:19:49,639 Speaker 3: This upset me a lot more than it should have. 387 00:19:50,000 --> 00:19:52,200 Speaker 3: I love my family, but I hate the way they 388 00:19:52,240 --> 00:19:55,760 Speaker 3: thought they could use me. I think that is why 389 00:19:55,800 --> 00:19:58,760 Speaker 3: I posted here in the first place. I can't believe 390 00:19:58,800 --> 00:20:01,119 Speaker 3: I ever thought I was the wrong for putting my 391 00:20:01,200 --> 00:20:04,240 Speaker 3: foot down. As much as I don't want to cut 392 00:20:04,359 --> 00:20:08,520 Speaker 3: contact with my family or father, I do think lowering 393 00:20:08,560 --> 00:20:10,919 Speaker 3: it will be good for me. I've been reflecting a 394 00:20:10,920 --> 00:20:13,920 Speaker 3: lot about my life and my family these days. I'm 395 00:20:13,920 --> 00:20:17,040 Speaker 3: getting my thoughts in order before I see a therapist 396 00:20:17,160 --> 00:20:20,480 Speaker 3: on Tuesday. I think riding this all down is helping. 397 00:20:20,960 --> 00:20:24,080 Speaker 3: Thank you. I have no intention on updating again. 398 00:20:24,359 --> 00:20:25,520 Speaker 6: Okay, good for her? 399 00:20:25,960 --> 00:20:30,000 Speaker 3: Yeah, well hopefully hopefully. You know, you have a great 400 00:20:30,160 --> 00:20:33,199 Speaker 3: trip to France and Katie enjoys all of it. 401 00:20:33,560 --> 00:20:35,640 Speaker 7: Yeah, and that's the end of the story. We're gonna 402 00:20:35,640 --> 00:20:36,399 Speaker 7: read the next one. 403 00:20:37,359 --> 00:20:40,479 Speaker 8: My boyfriend helps his married friends sleep and I couldn't 404 00:20:40,520 --> 00:20:40,959 Speaker 8: handle it. 405 00:20:41,040 --> 00:20:43,240 Speaker 1: They just want to have a sleepover. 406 00:20:43,600 --> 00:20:46,479 Speaker 8: My twenty eight female boyfriend twenty nine Mail and I 407 00:20:46,640 --> 00:20:49,639 Speaker 8: started dating about thirteen months ago. At that point, you 408 00:20:49,640 --> 00:20:51,760 Speaker 8: could say a year, you're allowed. 409 00:20:51,480 --> 00:20:53,719 Speaker 1: To we are in baby terms. 410 00:20:53,960 --> 00:20:55,840 Speaker 8: Yeah, he's not a baby. You could say year. 411 00:20:56,119 --> 00:20:56,560 Speaker 3: We're good. 412 00:20:56,640 --> 00:20:59,240 Speaker 8: We met through mutual friends playing an online game two 413 00:20:59,320 --> 00:21:01,720 Speaker 8: years ago, so long distance for a while until my 414 00:21:01,800 --> 00:21:04,399 Speaker 8: job offered me a great promotion in a big city 415 00:21:04,440 --> 00:21:06,720 Speaker 8: close by where he lived, and I took up the offer, 416 00:21:06,800 --> 00:21:08,639 Speaker 8: decided to meet up his friends, and we let the 417 00:21:08,680 --> 00:21:11,680 Speaker 8: relationship blossom under that pretense of getting to know each 418 00:21:11,720 --> 00:21:14,200 Speaker 8: other before deciding if it was what we wanted. By 419 00:21:14,200 --> 00:21:16,840 Speaker 8: the way, this comes from skoit to nine nine zero 420 00:21:16,880 --> 00:21:17,520 Speaker 8: and if you want. 421 00:21:17,400 --> 00:21:18,960 Speaker 9: To smit your own stories code of the r slash 422 00:21:19,000 --> 00:21:20,159 Speaker 9: okay storytime severed it. 423 00:21:20,200 --> 00:21:22,639 Speaker 8: I'm Sophia, I'm Carly, and we're here to give good 424 00:21:22,640 --> 00:21:25,159 Speaker 8: advice scoofy, but we don't have all the answers. We 425 00:21:25,280 --> 00:21:26,920 Speaker 8: only know what we do. Please let us know what 426 00:21:26,920 --> 00:21:29,240 Speaker 8: you would do in the comment please, and Opie says, 427 00:21:29,320 --> 00:21:32,120 Speaker 8: as far as the relationship is concerned, it's going really 428 00:21:32,119 --> 00:21:35,359 Speaker 8: well and has been since the start. Okay, at least 429 00:21:35,400 --> 00:21:38,160 Speaker 8: it seems to be doing well in the healthy state 430 00:21:38,200 --> 00:21:41,159 Speaker 8: of mind. Boyfriend and I share a lot of hobbies together, 431 00:21:41,280 --> 00:21:44,159 Speaker 8: but we also do things apart. He likes sailing boats, 432 00:21:44,240 --> 00:21:46,320 Speaker 8: where as I just get seasick and like to walk 433 00:21:46,359 --> 00:21:48,560 Speaker 8: on the marina. We share a lot of the same 434 00:21:48,640 --> 00:21:51,440 Speaker 8: family values, want the same things out of life. Very 435 00:21:51,520 --> 00:21:54,240 Speaker 8: passionate about hobbies and careers. We're both at a point 436 00:21:54,240 --> 00:21:56,440 Speaker 8: in our lives where, if things were to fall into place, 437 00:21:56,520 --> 00:21:58,479 Speaker 8: we could spend the rest of our lives together and 438 00:21:58,520 --> 00:22:00,880 Speaker 8: then some. But we're not moving that fast just yet, 439 00:22:00,960 --> 00:22:03,280 Speaker 8: and we're still young in the relationship. We still live 440 00:22:03,320 --> 00:22:06,320 Speaker 8: in separate apartments, our jobs are in different cities, too 441 00:22:06,440 --> 00:22:09,000 Speaker 8: far to commute from either's place, so we see each 442 00:22:09,040 --> 00:22:12,360 Speaker 8: other every weekend or if we have bank holidays. Those 443 00:22:12,400 --> 00:22:14,600 Speaker 8: people just see us as a normal, happy couple with 444 00:22:14,640 --> 00:22:17,600 Speaker 8: their ups and downs, but generally we're great together ninety 445 00:22:17,680 --> 00:22:20,760 Speaker 8: nine percent of the time. Until my boyfriend brings up 446 00:22:21,320 --> 00:22:25,640 Speaker 8: his best friend in any conversation, who I'll name kat 447 00:22:26,200 --> 00:22:32,159 Speaker 8: don't don't it's a woman henceforth, which always makes for 448 00:22:32,160 --> 00:22:34,920 Speaker 8: a tense conversation. Now, I'm pretty sure you're thinking that 449 00:22:35,000 --> 00:22:38,400 Speaker 8: I must be that girl, the joys type of girlfriend. 450 00:22:38,520 --> 00:22:39,960 Speaker 1: I think she's probably that girl. 451 00:22:40,000 --> 00:22:41,080 Speaker 8: I think she's that girl. 452 00:22:41,520 --> 00:22:43,359 Speaker 1: I think she's the annoying female best friend. 453 00:22:43,560 --> 00:22:46,120 Speaker 8: Yeah, the jis type of girlfriend. Most guys don't want, 454 00:22:46,320 --> 00:22:48,400 Speaker 8: the jealous type of girl that doesn't want her boyfriend 455 00:22:48,480 --> 00:22:51,680 Speaker 8: talking to other girls beside herself. But that simply isn't 456 00:22:51,680 --> 00:22:54,160 Speaker 8: the case here, and I'll explain. Cat and my boyfriend 457 00:22:54,200 --> 00:22:56,280 Speaker 8: were friends a year prior to meeting me, and I 458 00:22:56,320 --> 00:23:00,440 Speaker 8: suppose you could say they shared a special type of friendship. 459 00:23:00,440 --> 00:23:04,320 Speaker 8: Most people in a relationship dread the friends or more 460 00:23:04,760 --> 00:23:07,200 Speaker 8: with the blatant flirting and dirty jokes. 461 00:23:08,240 --> 00:23:08,400 Speaker 1: Eh. 462 00:23:11,400 --> 00:23:13,720 Speaker 8: Yeah, yeah, that's not good. 463 00:23:13,800 --> 00:23:17,919 Speaker 1: Pretty much exclusively every time that I hear, oh, like 464 00:23:18,040 --> 00:23:21,959 Speaker 1: my grovenco jealous, I have female friends. No, it's because 465 00:23:21,960 --> 00:23:24,840 Speaker 1: the friends that you have are actively flirting and trying 466 00:23:24,840 --> 00:23:27,560 Speaker 1: to be in relationships with them. This is not on her. Yeah, 467 00:23:27,640 --> 00:23:29,600 Speaker 1: this is on all your female friends, on. 468 00:23:29,560 --> 00:23:33,159 Speaker 8: You, never moving forward past it, but always wondering if 469 00:23:33,160 --> 00:23:35,760 Speaker 8: they did, could they be more type boyfriends? Let me 470 00:23:35,800 --> 00:23:38,560 Speaker 8: know the cat always had, or rather still does have 471 00:23:38,640 --> 00:23:43,439 Speaker 8: a thing brand. Oh yeah, that's worse. So he knows. 472 00:23:43,520 --> 00:23:45,560 Speaker 8: He knows. This is worse than all the other ones 473 00:23:45,600 --> 00:23:48,080 Speaker 8: where they're like, oh, I just didn't even see it, 474 00:23:47,880 --> 00:23:51,200 Speaker 8: but it would you realize really close? No, he knows, 475 00:23:51,400 --> 00:23:55,280 Speaker 8: and at one point he did too. I'm sorry. Okay, well, 476 00:23:55,400 --> 00:23:59,119 Speaker 8: well I was about to launch into something, but I 477 00:23:59,119 --> 00:24:01,480 Speaker 8: don't want to hear the long I was going to say, 478 00:24:01,520 --> 00:24:06,560 Speaker 8: that's crazy ba ba bah. However, I can't fully commit 479 00:24:06,600 --> 00:24:10,440 Speaker 8: to that because I have had a similar situation where 480 00:24:10,480 --> 00:24:12,920 Speaker 8: I was into someone they were into me, and then 481 00:24:12,920 --> 00:24:16,119 Speaker 8: we were like oh no, and nothing happened, so and 482 00:24:16,119 --> 00:24:17,560 Speaker 8: then we were just like, oh, we know, we're better 483 00:24:17,560 --> 00:24:20,800 Speaker 8: off our friends. And I still have those friends, So 484 00:24:21,560 --> 00:24:23,640 Speaker 8: I can't fully condemn them. 485 00:24:24,000 --> 00:24:26,320 Speaker 1: I can fully condemn them when it leads to one 486 00:24:26,320 --> 00:24:28,320 Speaker 1: of them comforting the other to bed. 487 00:24:28,440 --> 00:24:30,399 Speaker 8: Well, that's what I was gonna say. I can't fully 488 00:24:30,400 --> 00:24:33,920 Speaker 8: condemn them for having this type relationship. However, I can 489 00:24:34,040 --> 00:24:37,320 Speaker 8: condemn them for flirting and not putting up the proper boundaries. 490 00:24:37,400 --> 00:24:40,520 Speaker 8: Because for those friends that I still have, I am 491 00:24:40,720 --> 00:24:44,120 Speaker 8: very like, this is our new boundary. We don't blur 492 00:24:44,280 --> 00:24:46,399 Speaker 8: the line. You are my friend like. 493 00:24:46,920 --> 00:24:50,639 Speaker 1: He's also over it too, but she still actively has 494 00:24:50,880 --> 00:24:52,160 Speaker 1: said a crush, But that was. 495 00:24:52,119 --> 00:24:55,840 Speaker 8: Before Kat admitted that she was married and with kids. 496 00:24:56,280 --> 00:24:58,760 Speaker 8: My boyfriend had shut that idea down immediately, but still 497 00:24:58,760 --> 00:25:01,080 Speaker 8: continue to have the third fest with her regardless. Her 498 00:25:01,119 --> 00:25:03,200 Speaker 8: reasoning was because he would think all and what harm 499 00:25:03,240 --> 00:25:08,120 Speaker 8: could it do? Elloel, You're not though girl. Anyway, when 500 00:25:08,119 --> 00:25:10,639 Speaker 8: boyfriend and I met, we had an instant connection and 501 00:25:10,680 --> 00:25:12,840 Speaker 8: the rest is kind of history. For that My concern 502 00:25:12,920 --> 00:25:15,800 Speaker 8: here is that anytime Kat has a problem, boyfriend goes 503 00:25:15,880 --> 00:25:17,960 Speaker 8: running for the hills, trying to be her white. 504 00:25:17,840 --> 00:25:20,120 Speaker 9: Night because he still has feelings for her. 505 00:25:20,400 --> 00:25:22,639 Speaker 8: Her marriage is on the rocks, has been for the 506 00:25:22,680 --> 00:25:25,480 Speaker 8: longest I can remember. She and her husband married young, 507 00:25:25,600 --> 00:25:28,440 Speaker 8: shotgun wedding, and they've never really been committed to each other. 508 00:25:28,560 --> 00:25:30,800 Speaker 8: If she has money problems, he writes a check for her. 509 00:25:30,960 --> 00:25:33,399 Speaker 8: If she has problems sleeping, he lets her record his 510 00:25:33,560 --> 00:25:37,400 Speaker 8: voice over Skype or mumble so she can fall asleep. 511 00:25:37,600 --> 00:25:42,680 Speaker 8: That's weird, insane, She has a husband, weird. She's going 512 00:25:42,720 --> 00:25:46,600 Speaker 8: to sleep putting another man's voice in her ear to 513 00:25:46,680 --> 00:25:50,040 Speaker 8: sleep while her husband sleeps, presumably next to her. If 514 00:25:50,080 --> 00:25:52,640 Speaker 8: her husband doesn't want to have spicy sleep, he's there 515 00:25:52,680 --> 00:25:56,119 Speaker 8: to listen, listen to what. If she's in a crappy mood, 516 00:25:56,520 --> 00:25:59,160 Speaker 8: she makes him say spicy sleep jokes and makes him 517 00:25:59,320 --> 00:26:02,280 Speaker 8: flirt with her to feel better. I'm bringing up with him. Yeah. Fully, 518 00:26:02,400 --> 00:26:04,600 Speaker 8: if she witnessed the second Coming of Jesus and didn't 519 00:26:04,640 --> 00:26:07,480 Speaker 8: know how to process it, she'd make him explain what happened. 520 00:26:07,600 --> 00:26:10,479 Speaker 8: She likes to shamelessly flirt with him always. In general, 521 00:26:10,640 --> 00:26:12,800 Speaker 8: she looks for solace in my boyfriend when she has 522 00:26:12,840 --> 00:26:15,399 Speaker 8: a problem, and he always helps her out, no matter 523 00:26:15,440 --> 00:26:18,080 Speaker 8: what it takes. Now, normally I wouldn't care and would 524 00:26:18,119 --> 00:26:20,359 Speaker 8: let him do that for any person he cared about. 525 00:26:20,880 --> 00:26:24,359 Speaker 8: But she always lets it slip that if she were single, 526 00:26:24,840 --> 00:26:28,120 Speaker 8: she would snatch him up in a heartbeat, even if 527 00:26:28,160 --> 00:26:30,879 Speaker 8: he is with me or anyone else. She cracks lu 528 00:26:31,080 --> 00:26:33,000 Speaker 8: jokes at him well around the both of us. Kat 529 00:26:33,000 --> 00:26:35,600 Speaker 8: has never let the opportunity slip by to make it 530 00:26:35,680 --> 00:26:38,640 Speaker 8: known to me that she's very much in love with 531 00:26:38,680 --> 00:26:41,920 Speaker 8: my boyfriend. She makes me uncomfortable, and I've told boyfriend 532 00:26:42,000 --> 00:26:44,879 Speaker 8: that many times. He assures me that he did entertain 533 00:26:44,920 --> 00:26:47,240 Speaker 8: the idea of once being with her, but once he 534 00:26:47,280 --> 00:26:49,720 Speaker 8: had met me that all changed. Then she shouldn't be 535 00:26:49,720 --> 00:26:51,679 Speaker 8: in her life. I actually was just talking to a 536 00:26:51,720 --> 00:26:55,320 Speaker 8: friend about not the same situation, but like a similar 537 00:26:55,359 --> 00:26:58,960 Speaker 8: situation where they had a X thing that was in 538 00:26:59,000 --> 00:27:00,800 Speaker 8: their life for a while and realized that they had 539 00:27:00,840 --> 00:27:03,200 Speaker 8: to fully cut them out of their life because it 540 00:27:03,359 --> 00:27:05,920 Speaker 8: just doesn't work anymore. It just at a certain point 541 00:27:05,960 --> 00:27:08,120 Speaker 8: when there's just too much blurred lines and you don't 542 00:27:08,160 --> 00:27:10,320 Speaker 8: know how to interact without the blurred lines. It just 543 00:27:10,400 --> 00:27:11,240 Speaker 8: doesn't work. 544 00:27:11,160 --> 00:27:14,119 Speaker 1: Especially when one of them is like overstepping. 545 00:27:15,560 --> 00:27:18,840 Speaker 8: Yes, I trust his word one hundred percent and without 546 00:27:18,840 --> 00:27:21,400 Speaker 8: a doubt he wouldn't cheat on me. Well, he's emotionally 547 00:27:21,440 --> 00:27:21,960 Speaker 8: cheating on you. 548 00:27:21,920 --> 00:27:23,680 Speaker 1: Right now, and he's flirting with her. 549 00:27:24,040 --> 00:27:26,040 Speaker 8: He's emotionally cheating with her right now, or at least 550 00:27:26,080 --> 00:27:28,280 Speaker 8: I want to believe he wouldn't do that to our relationship. 551 00:27:28,320 --> 00:27:30,280 Speaker 8: I mean, you know he's doing that. You just told us, 552 00:27:30,280 --> 00:27:32,280 Speaker 8: you wrote about it. We've talked about what to do, 553 00:27:32,359 --> 00:27:34,280 Speaker 8: and he told me he would stop talking to her 554 00:27:34,480 --> 00:27:37,640 Speaker 8: entirely if that made things better. Yep, yes, it would 555 00:27:37,680 --> 00:27:39,520 Speaker 8: make things better. But I don't want to be that girl, 556 00:27:39,560 --> 00:27:42,320 Speaker 8: you know, the girl who makes her boyfriend break off friendships. 557 00:27:42,560 --> 00:27:44,880 Speaker 8: I told him about how much Cat gives me anxiety 558 00:27:44,920 --> 00:27:47,280 Speaker 8: about the relationship, that she would try anything to get 559 00:27:47,400 --> 00:27:49,320 Speaker 8: rid of me and to get to you if her 560 00:27:49,359 --> 00:27:50,359 Speaker 8: life allowed it. 561 00:27:50,280 --> 00:27:53,159 Speaker 1: To go oh pee. This is not being that girl. 562 00:27:53,480 --> 00:27:55,879 Speaker 1: Being that girl would be like, he can't have any friends, 563 00:27:55,920 --> 00:27:57,200 Speaker 1: he can't have any female people. 564 00:27:57,240 --> 00:27:58,480 Speaker 8: This is like one person. 565 00:27:58,760 --> 00:28:02,960 Speaker 1: Yeah that you have an obvious, valid reason to be 566 00:28:03,320 --> 00:28:05,960 Speaker 1: upset and concerned about. You're not doing it to the 567 00:28:06,000 --> 00:28:08,520 Speaker 1: rest of his friends. You're not isolating him that that 568 00:28:08,560 --> 00:28:09,399 Speaker 1: you're not that girl. 569 00:28:09,640 --> 00:28:12,960 Speaker 8: However, I don't think it should be you asking him 570 00:28:13,320 --> 00:28:15,560 Speaker 8: to do it. I think you should have expressed what 571 00:28:15,640 --> 00:28:18,080 Speaker 8: you felt. He should have looked at the relationship and 572 00:28:18,119 --> 00:28:21,400 Speaker 8: been like, oh, this is totally inappropriate and I don't 573 00:28:21,400 --> 00:28:23,640 Speaker 8: think his can continue. I should end this, and I'm 574 00:28:23,640 --> 00:28:25,760 Speaker 8: not gonna put that on my girlfriend to make the decision. 575 00:28:25,840 --> 00:28:27,720 Speaker 1: He should have ended it. But if you want to 576 00:28:27,760 --> 00:28:30,399 Speaker 1: give it like one final go, yeah, I think you 577 00:28:30,520 --> 00:28:35,720 Speaker 1: can say now like, yeah, it's caatter me basically. Yeah. 578 00:28:35,760 --> 00:28:37,199 Speaker 8: I think you could just say, hey, I'm not going 579 00:28:37,240 --> 00:28:39,240 Speaker 8: to force you to do anything. I'm just letting you 580 00:28:39,320 --> 00:28:42,600 Speaker 8: know that this relationship is not going to end well, right, 581 00:28:42,960 --> 00:28:46,080 Speaker 8: it's going to end and not well. Boyfriend assured me 582 00:28:46,120 --> 00:28:48,520 Speaker 8: every time that he's with the person he loves being me. 583 00:28:48,760 --> 00:28:51,280 Speaker 8: I suppose her constant bantering has gotten the best of me. 584 00:28:51,400 --> 00:28:53,840 Speaker 1: He's got a sweet gig, he has you, and then 585 00:28:53,840 --> 00:28:55,000 Speaker 1: he flirts with the other girl. 586 00:28:55,200 --> 00:28:56,920 Speaker 8: Yeah, what else could he want? 587 00:28:57,160 --> 00:28:59,520 Speaker 1: No, I'm being sarcastic at sweet gig guy to a point. 588 00:28:59,520 --> 00:29:02,320 Speaker 8: I trust boyfriend, but when he's around her, I don't 589 00:29:02,560 --> 00:29:06,560 Speaker 8: everything about cat I can't trust everything I hear or 590 00:29:06,680 --> 00:29:09,680 Speaker 8: see about or from her. I can't trust. Am I 591 00:29:09,800 --> 00:29:12,080 Speaker 8: just being the insecure girlfriend who can't get over that? 592 00:29:12,480 --> 00:29:14,760 Speaker 8: Am I just afraid that one day she'll do something 593 00:29:14,840 --> 00:29:17,640 Speaker 8: drastic to take the person I love away? Is this jealousy? 594 00:29:17,960 --> 00:29:20,080 Speaker 8: I don't know what to do, think, or say about 595 00:29:20,080 --> 00:29:23,440 Speaker 8: the situation. I've had so much anxiety over this that 596 00:29:23,560 --> 00:29:25,600 Speaker 8: writing all this out has taken a toll on me. 597 00:29:25,840 --> 00:29:28,360 Speaker 8: What can I do to ease the anxiety of my 598 00:29:28,440 --> 00:29:31,760 Speaker 8: boyfriend's white Knight syndrome? For cat is what he's doing 599 00:29:31,880 --> 00:29:34,360 Speaker 8: right now? Could she just really be the best friend? 600 00:29:34,840 --> 00:29:34,959 Speaker 1: No? 601 00:29:35,240 --> 00:29:37,080 Speaker 8: Or am I just thinking too much into this? 602 00:29:37,720 --> 00:29:37,760 Speaker 1: No? 603 00:29:38,040 --> 00:29:40,600 Speaker 8: Please help? And we've got some comments. 604 00:29:40,600 --> 00:29:42,680 Speaker 1: Oh boy, I'm excited? 605 00:29:43,120 --> 00:29:46,400 Speaker 8: Yeah, yeah, I don't know. I don't know if this 606 00:29:46,480 --> 00:29:50,240 Speaker 8: is good or lost comments. Does the boyfriend ever say 607 00:29:50,320 --> 00:29:53,240 Speaker 8: that's really inappropriate to this? Chick? Opie? Opie says he 608 00:29:53,360 --> 00:29:56,000 Speaker 8: has had times, but he lets it slide so much 609 00:29:56,040 --> 00:29:58,440 Speaker 8: that I don't think he bothers to anymore. Definitely a 610 00:29:58,440 --> 00:30:00,760 Speaker 8: bad sign. But I don't know whether it was playful 611 00:30:00,800 --> 00:30:04,040 Speaker 8: banter or just her being the slide. You know, I 612 00:30:04,080 --> 00:30:06,560 Speaker 8: suppose you're right about the latter fact, does she say 613 00:30:06,600 --> 00:30:09,360 Speaker 8: this crap around you? Hope? He says almost always. The 614 00:30:09,400 --> 00:30:11,440 Speaker 8: boyfriend and I don't meet up with her often, but 615 00:30:11,480 --> 00:30:14,600 Speaker 8: when it's get together with other friends and she's there, 616 00:30:15,120 --> 00:30:17,720 Speaker 8: she just has to sling that hash at me. It's 617 00:30:17,720 --> 00:30:19,920 Speaker 8: also a lot easier for her to do online when 618 00:30:19,920 --> 00:30:22,520 Speaker 8: we're playing games too, So yeah, she does. And we've 619 00:30:22,560 --> 00:30:24,680 Speaker 8: got an update ten days later. Do you think they're 620 00:30:24,680 --> 00:30:25,200 Speaker 8: still together? 621 00:30:25,480 --> 00:30:30,640 Speaker 1: Oh? I want to say no, but I think there's 622 00:30:30,680 --> 00:30:31,960 Speaker 1: a chance of yes. 623 00:30:32,640 --> 00:30:32,920 Speaker 3: Yeah. 624 00:30:33,000 --> 00:30:36,320 Speaker 1: I think maybe they had a conversation and he's going 625 00:30:36,360 --> 00:30:38,640 Speaker 1: to limit time with her, but then later on he 626 00:30:38,680 --> 00:30:41,120 Speaker 1: won't limit it, and then they'll break up. Okay, so 627 00:30:41,200 --> 00:30:44,280 Speaker 1: you're saying, yes, I think a temporary band aid leading 628 00:30:44,280 --> 00:30:44,920 Speaker 1: to a breakup. 629 00:30:45,040 --> 00:30:47,640 Speaker 8: I think I'm gonna just to be contradictory. I'm gonna 630 00:30:47,760 --> 00:30:49,240 Speaker 8: go now. I think they're done. 631 00:30:49,320 --> 00:30:49,720 Speaker 3: They're done. 632 00:30:49,760 --> 00:30:51,920 Speaker 8: Yeah, I think they're full done. Update ten days later. 633 00:30:52,000 --> 00:30:54,400 Speaker 8: The weekend came and I sat the boyfriend down and 634 00:30:54,440 --> 00:30:57,959 Speaker 8: we had a very long talk about everything. Still together. Okay, 635 00:30:58,400 --> 00:31:00,480 Speaker 8: I laid down all of my cards on the table, 636 00:31:00,600 --> 00:31:03,800 Speaker 8: the concerns I have, the friendship, what she means to him, 637 00:31:04,040 --> 00:31:06,760 Speaker 8: that he was blind to her advances and how crude 638 00:31:06,840 --> 00:31:09,280 Speaker 8: and mean she is in regards to me, how she 639 00:31:09,360 --> 00:31:12,360 Speaker 8: disrespects the relationship and tries to undermine me, et cetera. 640 00:31:12,840 --> 00:31:14,440 Speaker 8: He was very adamant to say that he. 641 00:31:14,320 --> 00:31:16,720 Speaker 9: Was only just being a friend to her, that he. 642 00:31:16,640 --> 00:31:18,880 Speaker 8: Didn't see what he was doing was anything more than 643 00:31:18,920 --> 00:31:22,840 Speaker 8: going beyond that. Yeah, that's what you sound like, little 644 00:31:22,840 --> 00:31:26,080 Speaker 8: animal crossing character. I don't want to hear it, tom 645 00:31:26,160 --> 00:31:29,000 Speaker 8: Nook trying to steal my money. The boyfriend also mentioned 646 00:31:29,000 --> 00:31:32,040 Speaker 8: that he might have felt compelled to help her because 647 00:31:32,040 --> 00:31:34,320 Speaker 8: he always feels like he has to do everything he 648 00:31:34,360 --> 00:31:36,640 Speaker 8: can for anyone in his life. He did say the 649 00:31:36,680 --> 00:31:38,720 Speaker 8: flirting thing was mostly harmless. 650 00:31:38,800 --> 00:31:39,200 Speaker 1: It's not. 651 00:31:39,400 --> 00:31:41,720 Speaker 8: Yeah, He's like, no, you don't understand. I just feel 652 00:31:41,720 --> 00:31:43,360 Speaker 8: like I have to help everyone, and I also have 653 00:31:43,400 --> 00:31:44,640 Speaker 8: to flirt with everyone in my life. 654 00:31:44,720 --> 00:31:47,440 Speaker 1: You didn't understand the flirting is harmless. No, it hurts me. 655 00:31:47,880 --> 00:31:50,840 Speaker 8: Yeah, but he now realizes how careless and stupid it 656 00:31:51,000 --> 00:31:53,440 Speaker 8: was to think that it didn't hurt anyone. He pretty 657 00:31:53,520 --> 00:31:56,240 Speaker 8: much fessed up to saying that everything he did or 658 00:31:56,520 --> 00:32:00,680 Speaker 8: was doing was essentially emotional cheating. He's stead fast on 659 00:32:00,720 --> 00:32:03,400 Speaker 8: the fact that he's never actually done anything with Kat 660 00:32:03,400 --> 00:32:05,800 Speaker 8: beyond that just being a friend to her, that any 661 00:32:05,920 --> 00:32:10,120 Speaker 8: romantic or otherwise feelings related to that were gone and gone. 662 00:32:10,120 --> 00:32:12,760 Speaker 8: The moment Cat revealed herself to be married, he asked 663 00:32:12,760 --> 00:32:14,560 Speaker 8: me what I wanted done. I told him that I 664 00:32:14,600 --> 00:32:16,840 Speaker 8: wanted her out of our lives, that I couldn't trust 665 00:32:16,920 --> 00:32:19,200 Speaker 8: him around her, and vice versa. I couldn't be happy 666 00:32:19,200 --> 00:32:21,400 Speaker 8: as long as she was able to hover over my 667 00:32:21,480 --> 00:32:24,840 Speaker 8: boyfriend and a relationship so freely. She was a threat 668 00:32:24,880 --> 00:32:27,360 Speaker 8: to the relationship and there wasn't room for another. 669 00:32:27,520 --> 00:32:27,720 Speaker 1: I know. 670 00:32:27,800 --> 00:32:29,800 Speaker 8: People told me to be brave and I should care 671 00:32:29,840 --> 00:32:32,080 Speaker 8: about being a stereotype, and that I should stand my 672 00:32:32,160 --> 00:32:35,080 Speaker 8: ground because of all my concerns. He was very responsive 673 00:32:35,120 --> 00:32:36,520 Speaker 8: to it and said that he would cut her out 674 00:32:36,520 --> 00:32:39,200 Speaker 8: of his life and therefore out of ours. He said 675 00:32:39,240 --> 00:32:41,640 Speaker 8: it would be hard because he feels like he's abandoning 676 00:32:41,680 --> 00:32:43,840 Speaker 8: a friend. I told him that she wasn't just a 677 00:32:43,840 --> 00:32:46,000 Speaker 8: friend to him, and I had to remind him that 678 00:32:46,080 --> 00:32:48,800 Speaker 8: Cat was more than that and would always be so 679 00:32:49,160 --> 00:32:51,120 Speaker 8: as long as he let her be. He promised that 680 00:32:51,160 --> 00:32:52,920 Speaker 8: he would no longer do any of it and would 681 00:32:52,920 --> 00:32:55,640 Speaker 8: cease any and all contact with Kat. After we were 682 00:32:55,680 --> 00:32:58,520 Speaker 8: done with the discussion, we ended up talking about a 683 00:32:58,560 --> 00:33:01,200 Speaker 8: lot of other relationship issues had Apparently a lot of 684 00:33:01,240 --> 00:33:04,880 Speaker 8: trust issues are deep seated with him, parents divorced while young, 685 00:33:05,040 --> 00:33:09,360 Speaker 8: never had real friends, past relationships, never working out, et cetera. 686 00:33:09,440 --> 00:33:11,239 Speaker 8: While I have them too. There was a lot to 687 00:33:11,240 --> 00:33:11,680 Speaker 8: be said. 688 00:33:11,840 --> 00:33:14,920 Speaker 1: I need to know his full response to this, because 689 00:33:15,400 --> 00:33:17,360 Speaker 1: if he's immediately agreeing. 690 00:33:17,360 --> 00:33:21,400 Speaker 8: Yeah, good, Yeah, good, I like it so far. 691 00:33:21,800 --> 00:33:23,760 Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm kind of just like okay now that he's 692 00:33:23,800 --> 00:33:26,920 Speaker 1: admitting that it was basically like emotional cheating. Yeah, are 693 00:33:27,000 --> 00:33:30,520 Speaker 1: you okay because there's a confession and like a plan 694 00:33:30,600 --> 00:33:34,200 Speaker 1: to change the action, or are you out regardless? Yeah, 695 00:33:34,320 --> 00:33:35,320 Speaker 1: I assume she'll stay. 696 00:33:35,680 --> 00:33:36,520 Speaker 9: Let's see what she does. 697 00:33:36,600 --> 00:33:40,959 Speaker 8: We're still together, good and dating m hm, and hopefully 698 00:33:41,040 --> 00:33:44,000 Speaker 8: stronger after this is dealt with in its entirety. As 699 00:33:44,040 --> 00:33:45,959 Speaker 8: for the boyfriend doing what he said he would do, 700 00:33:46,200 --> 00:33:49,000 Speaker 8: only time will tell. As for me, I'm happier and 701 00:33:49,080 --> 00:33:50,960 Speaker 8: relieved to have been able to talk to the boyfriend 702 00:33:51,000 --> 00:33:53,400 Speaker 8: about the situation. Thanks to everyone who took time out 703 00:33:53,400 --> 00:33:55,600 Speaker 8: of their day to read my other thread and give 704 00:33:55,640 --> 00:33:58,760 Speaker 8: me some great advice. Hopefully I won't have to return 705 00:33:58,800 --> 00:34:01,960 Speaker 8: here with another update in future regarding this matter, but 706 00:34:02,120 --> 00:34:05,160 Speaker 8: I'll definitely come back if I do more boggling mind 707 00:34:05,200 --> 00:34:07,280 Speaker 8: matters for relationship issues. 708 00:34:07,400 --> 00:34:09,160 Speaker 7: And that's the end of the story. We're gonna read 709 00:34:09,160 --> 00:34:09,640 Speaker 7: the next one. 710 00:34:10,800 --> 00:34:15,120 Speaker 1: Hey, it's Carly, your favorite Axelattel host. Here. We're going 711 00:34:15,120 --> 00:34:17,360 Speaker 1: to get back to the stories, but here's three minutes 712 00:34:17,360 --> 00:34:21,440 Speaker 1: of ads from our sponsors. My boyfriend's mother accused me 713 00:34:21,520 --> 00:34:24,840 Speaker 1: of being selfish, and now he wants me to apologize. 714 00:34:25,200 --> 00:34:26,320 Speaker 8: I can't. 715 00:34:26,840 --> 00:34:29,880 Speaker 1: For some context, my boyfriend male twenty one and I 716 00:34:30,080 --> 00:34:33,239 Speaker 1: female twenty one recently moved in together after being in 717 00:34:33,280 --> 00:34:37,000 Speaker 1: a long distance relationship for three years. Back in February 718 00:34:37,000 --> 00:34:39,000 Speaker 1: of this year, my boyfriend was in New York and 719 00:34:39,080 --> 00:34:42,280 Speaker 1: moved to me in Texas. He's in his last semester 720 00:34:42,360 --> 00:34:44,839 Speaker 1: of college and is doing online classes so we can 721 00:34:44,880 --> 00:34:47,680 Speaker 1: still graduate with his hometown's college. It was a mutual 722 00:34:47,719 --> 00:34:51,560 Speaker 1: decision and we're very happy. My boyfriend's mom, Female fifty seven, 723 00:34:52,120 --> 00:34:55,360 Speaker 1: is a super sweet woman. We haven't always gotten along, 724 00:34:55,400 --> 00:34:57,880 Speaker 1: but that never hindered our relationship. By the way, this 725 00:34:57,920 --> 00:35:01,080 Speaker 1: comes from weird person four And if you want to 726 00:35:01,080 --> 00:35:03,080 Speaker 1: submit your own stories, go to the r slash Okay 727 00:35:03,080 --> 00:35:05,680 Speaker 1: Storytime sub reread it. I'm Carly ab Sophia, and we're 728 00:35:05,719 --> 00:35:07,640 Speaker 1: here to give good advice. Goofily, but we don't have 729 00:35:07,719 --> 00:35:09,440 Speaker 1: all the answers. We only know what we would do. 730 00:35:09,640 --> 00:35:11,319 Speaker 1: Let's know what you would do in the comments I know, 731 00:35:11,400 --> 00:35:11,840 Speaker 1: he says. 732 00:35:11,880 --> 00:35:12,359 Speaker 8: Now to the. 733 00:35:12,280 --> 00:35:14,440 Speaker 1: Point, before he left, I got a call from his 734 00:35:14,480 --> 00:35:18,200 Speaker 1: mom wanting to give her opinion on our decision of moving. 735 00:35:18,400 --> 00:35:22,560 Speaker 1: During this call, she completely came after me and my character, 736 00:35:22,840 --> 00:35:25,880 Speaker 1: using phrases like you're being very selfish. If you really 737 00:35:25,920 --> 00:35:28,120 Speaker 1: loved my son, you'd take care of the apartment by 738 00:35:28,120 --> 00:35:31,279 Speaker 1: yourself until August when he graduated. And you're not the 739 00:35:31,280 --> 00:35:33,080 Speaker 1: person I made you out to be. I thought you 740 00:35:33,080 --> 00:35:35,960 Speaker 1: were better than this, among so many other things. She 741 00:35:36,040 --> 00:35:38,440 Speaker 1: didn't give me the room to talk and explain that 742 00:35:38,520 --> 00:35:41,000 Speaker 1: we had been discussing this for almost a year now, 743 00:35:41,200 --> 00:35:43,400 Speaker 1: and that it was a decision both my boyfriend and 744 00:35:43,440 --> 00:35:45,520 Speaker 1: I put a lot of thought toward. All I could 745 00:35:45,560 --> 00:35:47,960 Speaker 1: do was sit there and take every nasty word she 746 00:35:48,120 --> 00:35:50,680 Speaker 1: spat out at me. It's been about five months since 747 00:35:50,680 --> 00:35:53,319 Speaker 1: that conversation and we haven't said a word to each other. 748 00:35:53,440 --> 00:35:56,279 Speaker 1: For some context, my boyfriend didn't tell his mom he 749 00:35:56,400 --> 00:35:59,160 Speaker 1: was moving out until a month before he came due 750 00:35:59,200 --> 00:36:01,400 Speaker 1: to personal issue that had come up and her not 751 00:36:01,480 --> 00:36:05,000 Speaker 1: being in the country, which isn't an excuse considering we 752 00:36:05,040 --> 00:36:07,360 Speaker 1: had been talking about it for a year and I 753 00:36:07,400 --> 00:36:09,400 Speaker 1: had nagged him for months to tell her so we 754 00:36:09,440 --> 00:36:13,920 Speaker 1: wouldn't end up in this situation. Yeah, she claims I 755 00:36:13,960 --> 00:36:17,439 Speaker 1: should have told her myself since I was forcing her 756 00:36:17,480 --> 00:36:20,080 Speaker 1: son into this. I need to know what story the 757 00:36:20,120 --> 00:36:20,640 Speaker 1: mom got. 758 00:36:20,800 --> 00:36:22,400 Speaker 8: Yeah, what is her son telling her? 759 00:36:22,719 --> 00:36:23,120 Speaker 4: Yeah? 760 00:36:23,120 --> 00:36:26,000 Speaker 8: And why would you tell her as opposed to her 761 00:36:26,040 --> 00:36:26,799 Speaker 8: own son? 762 00:36:27,080 --> 00:36:30,160 Speaker 1: Right, I do feel like he might have made op escapegoat. 763 00:36:30,280 --> 00:36:30,759 Speaker 8: I think so. 764 00:36:31,320 --> 00:36:35,200 Speaker 1: Anyway, my boyfriend, who wasn't present during this conversation, says 765 00:36:35,239 --> 00:36:38,359 Speaker 1: that we both messed up and that I should take 766 00:36:38,480 --> 00:36:41,879 Speaker 1: the high road and apologize so that things can get 767 00:36:41,920 --> 00:36:43,560 Speaker 1: back to how they were before. 768 00:36:43,840 --> 00:36:47,400 Speaker 8: This man is like, I totally lied to both people. 769 00:36:47,680 --> 00:36:50,520 Speaker 8: I think, actually you should just apologize, And then he 770 00:36:50,560 --> 00:36:52,719 Speaker 8: went right to his mom and he was like, you know, Mom, 771 00:36:53,000 --> 00:36:56,239 Speaker 8: I think you should really just Apologie, take the high road, dude. 772 00:36:56,880 --> 00:36:58,319 Speaker 8: Don't ask any questions. 773 00:36:58,600 --> 00:37:02,440 Speaker 1: No questions, Yeah, no questions, household. 774 00:37:01,960 --> 00:37:04,520 Speaker 8: No questions asked or no, you will not ask A 775 00:37:04,600 --> 00:37:05,520 Speaker 8: question's a question. 776 00:37:06,480 --> 00:37:09,040 Speaker 1: I'm glad you got that, But I don't feel like 777 00:37:09,040 --> 00:37:11,839 Speaker 1: I did anything wrong. I didn't snap back, I didn't 778 00:37:11,840 --> 00:37:14,520 Speaker 1: say anything to disrespect her, and I wasn't even able 779 00:37:14,520 --> 00:37:16,880 Speaker 1: to get a whole sentence in without being told to 780 00:37:16,920 --> 00:37:20,120 Speaker 1: be quiet because she was speaking. I told him I 781 00:37:20,160 --> 00:37:23,480 Speaker 1: was absolutely not apologizing, and he told me that we're 782 00:37:23,520 --> 00:37:25,719 Speaker 1: both stubborn and if I don't do it, then nothing 783 00:37:25,760 --> 00:37:28,560 Speaker 1: will ever get better. We have my boyfriend's sister's wedding 784 00:37:28,600 --> 00:37:30,600 Speaker 1: to go to in June, and I don't want the 785 00:37:30,680 --> 00:37:33,040 Speaker 1: drama to take away from her big day because I'm 786 00:37:33,040 --> 00:37:35,400 Speaker 1: not willing to apologize. But I also don't want his 787 00:37:35,480 --> 00:37:37,640 Speaker 1: mom to think it's okay to talk to me the 788 00:37:37,640 --> 00:37:40,400 Speaker 1: way she wants to and that the way she treated 789 00:37:40,400 --> 00:37:43,319 Speaker 1: me was acceptable. So Reddit, am I the a hole 790 00:37:43,440 --> 00:37:44,560 Speaker 1: and we have an update? 791 00:37:45,120 --> 00:37:46,319 Speaker 8: No? 792 00:37:46,320 --> 00:37:49,280 Speaker 1: No, I think at the very least, if you wanted 793 00:37:49,280 --> 00:37:51,560 Speaker 1: to take some of a high road, you can always 794 00:37:51,800 --> 00:37:55,160 Speaker 1: prompt a conversation of like, I'm really sorry, like clump 795 00:37:55,160 --> 00:37:57,799 Speaker 1: yourself with boyfriend, I'm really sorry collectively that we did 796 00:37:57,880 --> 00:38:01,080 Speaker 1: not tell you sooner that it felt very like just 797 00:38:01,160 --> 00:38:03,800 Speaker 1: push on you. That wasn't our intent. Blah blah blah blah, blah, 798 00:38:03,840 --> 00:38:05,480 Speaker 1: you don't need to apologize for any of the stuff 799 00:38:05,480 --> 00:38:07,879 Speaker 1: she was braiding you for. No, and it could even 800 00:38:07,880 --> 00:38:09,239 Speaker 1: prompt her to apologize for that. 801 00:38:09,680 --> 00:38:14,000 Speaker 8: I also think this is oh P's boyfriend's position, you know. 802 00:38:14,440 --> 00:38:16,680 Speaker 8: I think this is his responsibility to talk to his 803 00:38:16,800 --> 00:38:20,600 Speaker 8: mom about a move that he is making fully. And 804 00:38:20,640 --> 00:38:22,680 Speaker 8: I think maybe you can have a conversation with him 805 00:38:22,719 --> 00:38:26,000 Speaker 8: and say, hey, I love your mom, but we're adults now. Yeah, 806 00:38:26,120 --> 00:38:29,359 Speaker 8: we have moved in together, right, you know, we're now 807 00:38:29,560 --> 00:38:32,640 Speaker 8: moving to another place, we're being independent, and I think 808 00:38:32,680 --> 00:38:35,759 Speaker 8: you need to have a conversation with her about what 809 00:38:35,800 --> 00:38:37,840 Speaker 8: we're gonna tell her now what we don't need to 810 00:38:37,840 --> 00:38:38,239 Speaker 8: tell her. 811 00:38:38,680 --> 00:38:39,440 Speaker 1: Agreed. 812 00:38:39,960 --> 00:38:40,280 Speaker 8: Update. 813 00:38:40,360 --> 00:38:42,200 Speaker 1: I sat down with my boyfriend and I showed him 814 00:38:42,239 --> 00:38:45,160 Speaker 1: my post. It finally dawned on him that he hadn't 815 00:38:45,160 --> 00:38:48,160 Speaker 1: handled the situation well. He apologized for not having my 816 00:38:48,280 --> 00:38:50,680 Speaker 1: back and for standing up for me from the very beginning. 817 00:38:50,760 --> 00:38:52,920 Speaker 1: He explained how he had talked to his mom before 818 00:38:53,120 --> 00:38:55,480 Speaker 1: trying to get her to apologize as well, but she 819 00:38:55,560 --> 00:38:56,640 Speaker 1: had refused. 820 00:38:56,239 --> 00:38:56,759 Speaker 3: To do so. 821 00:38:56,880 --> 00:38:59,080 Speaker 1: He also did a lot of damage control between other 822 00:38:59,080 --> 00:39:01,759 Speaker 1: family members who were talking down on me, and had 823 00:39:01,760 --> 00:39:04,600 Speaker 1: to explain to them the true situation, which makes sense 824 00:39:04,680 --> 00:39:07,279 Speaker 1: considering I have no other problems with anyone else. He 825 00:39:07,400 --> 00:39:09,760 Speaker 1: explained how he didn't tell either of us the full 826 00:39:09,840 --> 00:39:12,920 Speaker 1: truth about the move and was trying to keep the 827 00:39:12,960 --> 00:39:14,080 Speaker 1: heat off himself. 828 00:39:14,280 --> 00:39:19,040 Speaker 8: Wow did we read that exactly? Did we into it 829 00:39:19,120 --> 00:39:19,520 Speaker 8: all of that? 830 00:39:20,120 --> 00:39:22,680 Speaker 1: We're so smart? Yeah, which a lot of people in 831 00:39:22,719 --> 00:39:24,080 Speaker 1: the comments also pointed out. 832 00:39:24,280 --> 00:39:24,760 Speaker 10: Yeah. 833 00:39:24,800 --> 00:39:26,720 Speaker 1: He said he would talk to his mom and stand 834 00:39:26,800 --> 00:39:29,000 Speaker 1: up for our relationship to try and make things right 835 00:39:29,120 --> 00:39:31,440 Speaker 1: because he cares about us and wants to continue to 836 00:39:31,440 --> 00:39:33,319 Speaker 1: build what we have. He made the call to his 837 00:39:33,360 --> 00:39:35,640 Speaker 1: mom later that night, and it didn't go well. She 838 00:39:35,719 --> 00:39:37,640 Speaker 1: got really angry with him when he told her that 839 00:39:37,680 --> 00:39:39,399 Speaker 1: she had no right to talk to me the way 840 00:39:39,440 --> 00:39:41,880 Speaker 1: she did. He had my back and told her that 841 00:39:41,960 --> 00:39:44,120 Speaker 1: I'm a part of his family now and he won't 842 00:39:44,120 --> 00:39:47,120 Speaker 1: tolerate the disrespect any longer. He stuck up for me 843 00:39:47,280 --> 00:39:50,480 Speaker 1: and honestly made me love him more. Oh he's about 844 00:39:50,520 --> 00:39:50,920 Speaker 1: to go down. 845 00:39:51,040 --> 00:39:51,600 Speaker 9: Here we go. 846 00:39:51,920 --> 00:39:54,279 Speaker 1: She basically told him he's no longer welcome in her 847 00:39:54,320 --> 00:39:57,200 Speaker 1: home and that at the wedding she will not say 848 00:39:57,200 --> 00:40:00,479 Speaker 1: a single word to either of us because disrespect people 849 00:40:00,560 --> 00:40:04,160 Speaker 1: have no place in her life. Comical I know I 850 00:40:04,160 --> 00:40:06,640 Speaker 1: have absolutely no interest in even trying to repair the 851 00:40:06,680 --> 00:40:09,400 Speaker 1: relationship with her, and he's going minimal contact with her 852 00:40:09,440 --> 00:40:12,120 Speaker 1: for the time being. So that's where that is. Anyway, 853 00:40:12,200 --> 00:40:14,960 Speaker 1: the whole situation is upsetting. My heart hurts for my 854 00:40:15,040 --> 00:40:17,640 Speaker 1: boyfriend because I know how much his mom means to him. 855 00:40:17,680 --> 00:40:19,640 Speaker 1: He's trying to play it off like it doesn't matter, 856 00:40:19,680 --> 00:40:21,479 Speaker 1: but I can see it's causing him pain. 857 00:40:21,920 --> 00:40:24,640 Speaker 8: What is the end of the Oh, yeah, well, he's 858 00:40:24,640 --> 00:40:27,919 Speaker 8: set the boundary Unfraditionally, his mom seems like the person 859 00:40:27,960 --> 00:40:31,719 Speaker 8: who's like, I need to be involved in my son's life. Yeah, 860 00:40:31,760 --> 00:40:33,720 Speaker 8: and if you try and take me out, I'm gonna 861 00:40:33,719 --> 00:40:36,920 Speaker 8: bite harder. But as long as you guys are a 862 00:40:36,960 --> 00:40:39,160 Speaker 8: pair and a partner, yeah, ship, then. 863 00:40:39,480 --> 00:40:43,399 Speaker 1: She might come around before August two, especially if sisters like, dude, 864 00:40:43,440 --> 00:40:44,759 Speaker 1: it's my wedding, Like, get over it. 865 00:40:45,480 --> 00:40:47,239 Speaker 7: And that's the end of the story. We're gonna read 866 00:40:47,280 --> 00:40:47,759 Speaker 7: the next one. 867 00:40:48,840 --> 00:40:52,120 Speaker 8: My boyfriend treated me like an emotional support animal, and 868 00:40:52,160 --> 00:40:53,359 Speaker 8: I despised it. 869 00:40:53,880 --> 00:40:54,960 Speaker 6: I'm not a dog. 870 00:40:55,280 --> 00:40:58,000 Speaker 8: I twenty two female, have been dating my boyfriend, twenty 871 00:40:58,040 --> 00:41:00,839 Speaker 8: six male for almost two months. We've known each other 872 00:41:00,920 --> 00:41:03,239 Speaker 8: for three years now. We're both from Asia, and he 873 00:41:03,280 --> 00:41:05,560 Speaker 8: moved to the US for his master's degree in August 874 00:41:05,640 --> 00:41:07,560 Speaker 8: twenty twenty one. And I was aware that it would 875 00:41:07,600 --> 00:41:10,320 Speaker 8: be a long distance relationship going it. I have never 876 00:41:10,360 --> 00:41:12,840 Speaker 8: been in a long distance relationship before, so this is 877 00:41:12,920 --> 00:41:15,000 Speaker 8: new to me. By the way, this comes from outside 878 00:41:15,040 --> 00:41:17,000 Speaker 8: sand nine ninety one. And if you want to smit 879 00:41:17,040 --> 00:41:19,240 Speaker 8: your own stories, go to the r slash Okay storytime 880 00:41:19,239 --> 00:41:22,319 Speaker 8: separed it. I'm Sophia Carly and we're here to give 881 00:41:22,320 --> 00:41:24,240 Speaker 8: good advice coofley, but we don't have all the answers. 882 00:41:24,239 --> 00:41:26,120 Speaker 8: We don't know what we'd do, so let us know 883 00:41:26,120 --> 00:41:28,400 Speaker 8: what you would do in the comments and nope, he says. 884 00:41:28,520 --> 00:41:31,520 Speaker 8: Shortly after we started dating, he started having fights with 885 00:41:31,560 --> 00:41:34,239 Speaker 8: one of his close girlfriends. She told him that she 886 00:41:34,320 --> 00:41:36,600 Speaker 8: wanted to stop being friends with him. Add the blue, 887 00:41:36,680 --> 00:41:38,680 Speaker 8: she had been through a bad breakup recently and he 888 00:41:38,719 --> 00:41:41,640 Speaker 8: had supported her through it, but her refusal to acknowledge 889 00:41:41,719 --> 00:41:44,040 Speaker 8: him or their friendship was hard on him. He tried 890 00:41:44,040 --> 00:41:46,640 Speaker 8: to talk to other people in the same circle, but 891 00:41:46,680 --> 00:41:49,640 Speaker 8: they grew tired of the repeated discussions and told them 892 00:41:49,640 --> 00:41:52,239 Speaker 8: that they weren't interested in discussing the same thing over 893 00:41:52,320 --> 00:41:54,360 Speaker 8: and over. And that he shouldn't take this to heart 894 00:41:54,480 --> 00:41:56,480 Speaker 8: and leave her be I mean, depending on how much 895 00:41:56,520 --> 00:42:00,399 Speaker 8: he was talking about it valid Yeah, music, please talk 896 00:42:00,440 --> 00:42:03,760 Speaker 8: about it. Yeah, he's been depressed over this for about 897 00:42:03,920 --> 00:42:04,760 Speaker 8: month and a half. 898 00:42:04,920 --> 00:42:07,759 Speaker 1: I mean it was a long time friendship ending out 899 00:42:07,760 --> 00:42:11,560 Speaker 1: of the blue. Ses. Yes, I can understand, but after 900 00:42:11,600 --> 00:42:13,239 Speaker 1: a month and a half it might be time to 901 00:42:13,560 --> 00:42:16,040 Speaker 1: stop cycling that through the friendship conversations. 902 00:42:16,080 --> 00:42:19,680 Speaker 8: Honestly, I kind of in my head just immediately translated 903 00:42:20,120 --> 00:42:25,000 Speaker 8: close girlfriend to be like someone he had feelings for. Oh, 904 00:42:25,000 --> 00:42:27,160 Speaker 8: and so I was like, do you still have feelings for. 905 00:42:27,560 --> 00:42:29,799 Speaker 1: I mean, there's a high chance that's what we're about 906 00:42:29,840 --> 00:42:30,399 Speaker 1: to find out. 907 00:42:30,520 --> 00:42:33,960 Speaker 8: But he's feeling lonely and feels that their friends shows 908 00:42:34,000 --> 00:42:36,960 Speaker 8: her and abandon him. All this while I have tried 909 00:42:37,040 --> 00:42:39,120 Speaker 8: my best to support him and be there for him. 910 00:42:39,600 --> 00:42:42,000 Speaker 8: I have tried to be positive and cheerful and tried 911 00:42:42,040 --> 00:42:44,719 Speaker 8: to cheer him up. I've had endless discussions about the 912 00:42:44,760 --> 00:42:48,200 Speaker 8: same thing with him. All this exploded about twenty days ago. 913 00:42:48,360 --> 00:42:53,120 Speaker 8: The said friend barged into his apartment and started braiding 914 00:42:53,239 --> 00:42:56,440 Speaker 8: him over how he was overly clingy and annoying and 915 00:42:56,480 --> 00:42:58,479 Speaker 8: told them to grow up. And accept that they aren't 916 00:42:58,480 --> 00:43:01,600 Speaker 8: friends anymore. Both sides said terrible things to each other. 917 00:43:01,719 --> 00:43:05,760 Speaker 8: She barged into his apartment, Yeah what and other friends 918 00:43:05,760 --> 00:43:08,000 Speaker 8: have chosen her and told him that he shouldn't have 919 00:43:08,040 --> 00:43:11,720 Speaker 8: been so harsh, considering she was already having a difficult time. 920 00:43:11,960 --> 00:43:15,880 Speaker 8: She barged into his apartment. She literally barged into his apartment. 921 00:43:16,160 --> 00:43:18,600 Speaker 8: He's taken a turn for the worse since then. We 922 00:43:18,640 --> 00:43:21,319 Speaker 8: have an eleven hour time difference. He wants me to 923 00:43:21,360 --> 00:43:23,960 Speaker 8: stay up all night to talk to him because he's lonely. 924 00:43:24,320 --> 00:43:26,399 Speaker 8: He wants me to stay on video calls with him 925 00:43:26,400 --> 00:43:29,280 Speaker 8: while I work. I work eight to six hours currently 926 00:43:29,440 --> 00:43:32,040 Speaker 8: from home as a software engineer. I stayed up for 927 00:43:32,080 --> 00:43:34,759 Speaker 8: a while, but told him that it's hampering my productivity 928 00:43:34,800 --> 00:43:35,200 Speaker 8: at work. 929 00:43:35,200 --> 00:43:35,880 Speaker 9: I would not do this. 930 00:43:36,080 --> 00:43:38,480 Speaker 8: He was sad over me not talking to him all night. 931 00:43:38,920 --> 00:43:41,560 Speaker 8: He wanted to have phones bicy sleep while I attended 932 00:43:41,560 --> 00:43:44,600 Speaker 8: a call because it was thrilling. I said no, I 933 00:43:44,640 --> 00:43:46,719 Speaker 8: want to focus on work. He wants me to talk 934 00:43:46,760 --> 00:43:49,240 Speaker 8: to him whenever he's awake so he doesn't feel alone. 935 00:43:49,480 --> 00:43:53,520 Speaker 1: Therapy, Yeah, you know who can talk to you a papist. 936 00:43:53,719 --> 00:43:56,320 Speaker 8: Therapist can do that, which I think is impossible without 937 00:43:56,400 --> 00:43:59,960 Speaker 8: sacrificing all my sleep, which you need to live. Yeah, 938 00:44:00,239 --> 00:44:02,759 Speaker 8: yesterday I had a particularly hard day at work and 939 00:44:02,800 --> 00:44:05,560 Speaker 8: I had horrible period crams as well. I was in 940 00:44:05,600 --> 00:44:07,560 Speaker 8: the mood to talk, but he wanted to spicy text 941 00:44:07,600 --> 00:44:10,200 Speaker 8: with him. I told him I'm very tired and wasn't 942 00:44:10,200 --> 00:44:12,799 Speaker 8: feeling very well emotionally either. You got mad at me 943 00:44:12,840 --> 00:44:15,319 Speaker 8: because I couldn't stay up even on her Friday night 944 00:44:15,520 --> 00:44:17,399 Speaker 8: to talk to him. He said, that's why you've never 945 00:44:17,440 --> 00:44:19,799 Speaker 8: been in a good relationship before. You never consider the 946 00:44:19,840 --> 00:44:21,520 Speaker 8: other person. You're selfish? 947 00:44:21,560 --> 00:44:22,799 Speaker 1: Are you kidding me? 948 00:44:23,000 --> 00:44:23,360 Speaker 4: Dude? 949 00:44:23,760 --> 00:44:26,080 Speaker 8: I hate that? And also, oh, he's like four years 950 00:44:26,120 --> 00:44:26,640 Speaker 8: younger than you do. 951 00:44:26,800 --> 00:44:28,959 Speaker 1: And she's also like, hey, I had a really bad day. 952 00:44:29,400 --> 00:44:32,279 Speaker 1: My cramp's really hurt. I'm exhausted. I just can't do 953 00:44:32,320 --> 00:44:33,560 Speaker 1: it tonight. I just need to go to bed. 954 00:44:34,120 --> 00:44:38,200 Speaker 8: And he's like, you witch, yeah, terre about I told 955 00:44:38,280 --> 00:44:40,680 Speaker 8: him that's all I've been doing for all the while 956 00:44:40,760 --> 00:44:43,240 Speaker 8: we've dated. I've been talking of you and your fights 957 00:44:43,280 --> 00:44:45,719 Speaker 8: and your mental health. Stop treating me like i'm your 958 00:44:45,760 --> 00:44:48,360 Speaker 8: emotional support animal. I have my life to handle. And 959 00:44:48,440 --> 00:44:49,720 Speaker 8: he hasn't talked to me since. 960 00:44:49,880 --> 00:44:52,759 Speaker 1: I mean yeah, yeah, I think maybe harsh. But if 961 00:44:52,800 --> 00:44:54,600 Speaker 1: he's coming at you with those words like. 962 00:44:54,680 --> 00:44:56,800 Speaker 8: I think it's needed. I think he needs a harsh 963 00:44:56,840 --> 00:44:58,799 Speaker 8: and it's either going to end your relationship or he's 964 00:44:58,840 --> 00:44:59,480 Speaker 8: gotta realize. 965 00:44:59,600 --> 00:45:01,359 Speaker 1: Yeah, I might do both. 966 00:45:01,400 --> 00:45:04,000 Speaker 8: To be honest, I feel terrible for my words, but 967 00:45:04,040 --> 00:45:06,919 Speaker 8: I was overworked and tired and couldn't help it. Am 968 00:45:06,960 --> 00:45:10,360 Speaker 8: I the ale and we've got an update thirteen days later. 969 00:45:11,000 --> 00:45:13,120 Speaker 1: I think there's a chance he had feelings for her. 970 00:45:13,440 --> 00:45:14,160 Speaker 8: I think for sure. 971 00:45:14,239 --> 00:45:16,360 Speaker 1: Yeah, I think it's a very non zero percentage. 972 00:45:16,840 --> 00:45:19,400 Speaker 9: But pe've got an update. Let's see if they're still together. 973 00:45:19,480 --> 00:45:21,880 Speaker 8: First off, thank you for everyone who gave opinions and 974 00:45:21,920 --> 00:45:24,759 Speaker 8: advice and opened my eyes to much more than what 975 00:45:24,800 --> 00:45:27,080 Speaker 8: I was seeing. I have now broken up with the guy. 976 00:45:28,600 --> 00:45:30,360 Speaker 8: I tried to stick by for a week or so 977 00:45:30,480 --> 00:45:33,480 Speaker 8: to really see if things were that bad, but things 978 00:45:33,600 --> 00:45:37,320 Speaker 8: didn't improve for my mental health and in fact got worse. 979 00:45:37,600 --> 00:45:40,800 Speaker 8: I became distant and cold and it had to be addressed. 980 00:45:40,880 --> 00:45:41,520 Speaker 6: I'm not shock. 981 00:45:41,680 --> 00:45:44,200 Speaker 8: Yeah, nor am I? Nor am I? It makes sense. 982 00:45:44,760 --> 00:45:47,120 Speaker 8: He did what she needed to do, and I'm glad 983 00:45:47,200 --> 00:45:48,319 Speaker 8: read it helped you do it. 984 00:45:48,640 --> 00:45:50,240 Speaker 9: Yeah, let's see how it goes. 985 00:45:50,400 --> 00:45:52,480 Speaker 8: I decided to break up to take care of my 986 00:45:52,520 --> 00:45:55,080 Speaker 8: mental health. He did not take it nicely. He asked 987 00:45:55,080 --> 00:45:56,879 Speaker 8: me why I'm giving up on him because you saw 988 00:45:57,040 --> 00:46:00,440 Speaker 8: I said, I'm not. I'm just prioritizing myself. Also claim 989 00:46:00,480 --> 00:46:02,960 Speaker 8: that I was being selfish. Why don't you think of me? 990 00:46:03,480 --> 00:46:05,000 Speaker 8: When have I ever asked you to go out of 991 00:46:05,000 --> 00:46:07,040 Speaker 8: your way and do something for me? Why am I 992 00:46:07,120 --> 00:46:09,440 Speaker 8: being treated like a burden If you want less people 993 00:46:09,480 --> 00:46:12,440 Speaker 8: stop talking to X my best friend's name, Dude, what 994 00:46:12,480 --> 00:46:13,960 Speaker 8: do you mean whenever I ever asked you to go 995 00:46:14,000 --> 00:46:17,240 Speaker 8: out of your way? You asked her multiple times to 996 00:46:17,280 --> 00:46:19,000 Speaker 8: stay up all night, write. 997 00:46:18,760 --> 00:46:22,000 Speaker 1: And call her during work calls and do other weird stuff. 998 00:46:22,040 --> 00:46:24,080 Speaker 8: And that was the last job for me. I told 999 00:46:24,160 --> 00:46:26,600 Speaker 8: him to stop because I didn't want things to turn ugly. 1000 00:46:26,640 --> 00:46:28,560 Speaker 8: I told him, let's not lose our respect for each 1001 00:46:28,560 --> 00:46:31,680 Speaker 8: other that much. I'm not going down to your level. 1002 00:46:31,719 --> 00:46:34,840 Speaker 8: And he hung up the call. So, yeah, that's about it. 1003 00:46:34,880 --> 00:46:37,279 Speaker 8: Thanks all for your help, appreciate it. And that's the 1004 00:46:37,360 --> 00:46:40,160 Speaker 8: end of the story. And there you go, and it 1005 00:46:40,280 --> 00:46:43,120 Speaker 8: happened as it should happen. Yeah, yeah, love to see it. 1006 00:46:43,120 --> 00:46:44,480 Speaker 1: It'll bounce back. 1007 00:46:44,200 --> 00:46:46,000 Speaker 7: And that's the end of the story. We're gonna read 1008 00:46:46,000 --> 00:46:47,240 Speaker 7: the next one. 1009 00:46:47,520 --> 00:46:51,520 Speaker 3: I confronted my fiance about hiding her phone, but her 1010 00:46:51,560 --> 00:46:53,280 Speaker 3: answer nade. 1011 00:46:53,080 --> 00:46:56,200 Speaker 4: Her laugh Ah hysterical. 1012 00:46:56,440 --> 00:47:00,920 Speaker 3: My fiance together almost four years, has never own any 1013 00:47:01,120 --> 00:47:04,720 Speaker 3: signs of being a cheater, but it feels like something 1014 00:47:04,840 --> 00:47:08,919 Speaker 3: weird's happening. She wears a ring everywhere except when she's 1015 00:47:09,000 --> 00:47:12,760 Speaker 3: going out with her friends. I've never been a club person, 1016 00:47:12,880 --> 00:47:16,120 Speaker 3: but go with her sometimes to hang out. She's super 1017 00:47:16,320 --> 00:47:21,120 Speaker 3: extroverted while I'm more low key. Be balance each other out, 1018 00:47:21,480 --> 00:47:25,319 Speaker 3: and she exposed me to a lot of amazing experiences. 1019 00:47:25,400 --> 00:47:28,279 Speaker 3: I love her very much, and she's been an amazing 1020 00:47:28,360 --> 00:47:32,319 Speaker 3: mother figure in my daughter's life who I have majority 1021 00:47:32,360 --> 00:47:34,919 Speaker 3: custody of, so she spends a lot of her time 1022 00:47:34,920 --> 00:47:37,520 Speaker 3: with her. I asked her why she doesn't wear her 1023 00:47:37,600 --> 00:47:40,359 Speaker 3: ring when she's out, but she says it's because she 1024 00:47:40,520 --> 00:47:44,799 Speaker 3: doesn't want to lose it when drinking. And by the way, 1025 00:47:44,880 --> 00:47:47,799 Speaker 3: this comes from Throwaway five five sixty six, five to five. 1026 00:47:47,800 --> 00:47:49,600 Speaker 3: And if you want to see your own stories, you 1027 00:47:49,680 --> 00:47:50,440 Speaker 3: know where to go. 1028 00:47:50,880 --> 00:47:53,919 Speaker 6: I'm Riley, I'm Savannah, I'm Keon, and. 1029 00:47:53,840 --> 00:47:56,399 Speaker 3: We're here to be pretty goofy and we're not gonna 1030 00:47:56,440 --> 00:47:58,719 Speaker 3: be taking these stories very seriously, but if you have 1031 00:47:58,760 --> 00:48:00,799 Speaker 3: anything you want to add, please at it down below 1032 00:48:00,840 --> 00:48:04,520 Speaker 3: in the comments. As Op says, she wears it to 1033 00:48:04,560 --> 00:48:07,400 Speaker 3: the gym, but takes it off and puts it into 1034 00:48:07,440 --> 00:48:11,320 Speaker 3: this key chain ringholder. My brother was over last weekend 1035 00:48:11,400 --> 00:48:13,879 Speaker 3: when she was leaving, and he asked me about it. 1036 00:48:14,520 --> 00:48:17,000 Speaker 3: I said it was because she didn't want to lose it. 1037 00:48:17,600 --> 00:48:22,200 Speaker 3: He said that wasn't normal. I grew up very religious 1038 00:48:22,280 --> 00:48:25,200 Speaker 3: and sheltered. My last long term relationship was with my 1039 00:48:25,360 --> 00:48:29,400 Speaker 3: child's mother, and she cheated before filing for a crazy 1040 00:48:29,400 --> 00:48:33,360 Speaker 3: amount of child support and then basically abandoning her child 1041 00:48:33,480 --> 00:48:36,719 Speaker 3: right after it was granted. Working on legally fixing that. 1042 00:48:37,719 --> 00:48:40,799 Speaker 3: So I worry sometimes that I'm too trusting. But is 1043 00:48:40,840 --> 00:48:45,080 Speaker 3: this normal? Am I being naive? She also seems to 1044 00:48:45,080 --> 00:48:47,880 Speaker 3: be hiding her phone. I'll go over to her sometimes 1045 00:48:47,920 --> 00:48:51,960 Speaker 3: when she's super engaged, and she's clearly swiped away from 1046 00:48:51,960 --> 00:48:55,839 Speaker 3: whatever she's doing. We have each other's passwords, though, and 1047 00:48:55,880 --> 00:48:58,160 Speaker 3: when I asked what she's doing, she'll laugh it off 1048 00:48:58,200 --> 00:49:01,880 Speaker 3: and change the subject or start showing me funny stuff. 1049 00:49:02,480 --> 00:49:07,200 Speaker 3: I haven't seen anything suspicious or any suspicious numbers or messages, 1050 00:49:07,239 --> 00:49:10,719 Speaker 3: so I don't know relevant comments. Guys, are we going 1051 00:49:10,719 --> 00:49:11,239 Speaker 3: through the phone? 1052 00:49:13,000 --> 00:49:15,239 Speaker 5: Yeah, she's a very sussy baka, you know are you 1053 00:49:15,239 --> 00:49:17,680 Speaker 5: going through the phone. I'm going to at this point 1054 00:49:17,719 --> 00:49:20,120 Speaker 5: where like, yeah, I'm going through the phone, going. 1055 00:49:20,000 --> 00:49:20,399 Speaker 3: Through the phone. 1056 00:49:20,480 --> 00:49:23,040 Speaker 8: No, I don't think I would go through the phone. Well, 1057 00:49:23,120 --> 00:49:23,759 Speaker 8: I take that back. 1058 00:49:23,880 --> 00:49:26,040 Speaker 10: I would totally go through the phone if I had 1059 00:49:26,200 --> 00:49:28,200 Speaker 10: If I had the password and they're like not there 1060 00:49:28,280 --> 00:49:29,880 Speaker 10: or like they're like in the showers, and I'd. 1061 00:49:29,719 --> 00:49:32,560 Speaker 5: Be like, well, I'd be like what are you hiding? 1062 00:49:32,800 --> 00:49:35,200 Speaker 5: Like you yeah, very just go to that. 1063 00:49:36,000 --> 00:49:38,120 Speaker 10: Have the conversation, be like it feels like there's something 1064 00:49:38,160 --> 00:49:40,040 Speaker 10: going on. I don't know if that's just me or whatever. 1065 00:49:40,160 --> 00:49:42,080 Speaker 10: I would give them the chance to confess if something 1066 00:49:42,120 --> 00:49:42,600 Speaker 10: were to happen. 1067 00:49:43,000 --> 00:49:44,120 Speaker 3: On what reasoning, I. 1068 00:49:44,640 --> 00:49:46,920 Speaker 5: Would yeah, what Savanna said, I wouldn't go through the 1069 00:49:46,960 --> 00:49:49,719 Speaker 5: phone immediately. I'd be like, you're being sussy. You're being 1070 00:49:49,760 --> 00:49:51,560 Speaker 5: a very sussy person, Like, what what's up? 1071 00:49:51,800 --> 00:49:51,880 Speaker 1: Like? 1072 00:49:52,120 --> 00:49:54,759 Speaker 5: Or do we go with the really mental game of 1073 00:49:54,880 --> 00:49:56,800 Speaker 5: I know what you're doing. I know what you're doing. Yeah, 1074 00:49:57,000 --> 00:49:59,000 Speaker 5: I don't you know, you don't have to tell me 1075 00:49:59,000 --> 00:50:00,320 Speaker 5: I already know that's there's. 1076 00:50:00,160 --> 00:50:03,440 Speaker 3: Your point going through like the A to B. Also 1077 00:50:03,800 --> 00:50:06,400 Speaker 3: everyone one for going through the phone two for no. 1078 00:50:06,560 --> 00:50:08,200 Speaker 3: I really want to know what you guys are thinking here. 1079 00:50:08,360 --> 00:50:12,120 Speaker 3: Ultrabaa says, I've deliberately warder ring on my ring finger 1080 00:50:12,480 --> 00:50:14,520 Speaker 3: to look like a wedding ring when I'd go out, 1081 00:50:14,719 --> 00:50:17,200 Speaker 3: just so I could say I'm married and wasn't interested. 1082 00:50:17,360 --> 00:50:18,160 Speaker 6: Nice, I've done that. 1083 00:50:18,480 --> 00:50:21,160 Speaker 3: Oh and if anybody interest you, you could just be like, 1084 00:50:21,360 --> 00:50:25,880 Speaker 3: huh not tonight, I'm not Mimik says nah Opie is 1085 00:50:25,920 --> 00:50:29,640 Speaker 3: already one foot out the relationship. Anyways, we got some comments. 1086 00:50:29,880 --> 00:50:33,560 Speaker 3: Opening track twelve twenty seven says, when you ask her 1087 00:50:33,680 --> 00:50:36,359 Speaker 3: why she doesn't wear her engagement ring when she's going 1088 00:50:36,360 --> 00:50:42,120 Speaker 3: out with her friends, what was her response? And Obi says, ooh, 1089 00:50:42,120 --> 00:50:44,760 Speaker 3: we already got some ones here. She said she's scared 1090 00:50:44,800 --> 00:50:47,759 Speaker 3: to lose it because it's expensive, but she wears it 1091 00:50:47,800 --> 00:50:50,400 Speaker 3: to this gym. But she wears it to the gym 1092 00:50:50,840 --> 00:50:54,080 Speaker 3: and stores it in this keychain thing while she's working out, 1093 00:50:54,360 --> 00:50:56,920 Speaker 3: So I don't know why she doesn't just do that. 1094 00:50:57,440 --> 00:50:59,960 Speaker 3: The only place she doesn't wear it is to part 1095 00:51:00,000 --> 00:51:03,319 Speaker 3: already type social events or if she feels like she'll 1096 00:51:03,400 --> 00:51:07,080 Speaker 3: might get it dirty. When told it's shady to check 1097 00:51:07,120 --> 00:51:09,480 Speaker 3: her phone, she says, I looked last night. It was 1098 00:51:09,560 --> 00:51:12,600 Speaker 3: all calls from numbers I recognize, like her family or 1099 00:51:12,600 --> 00:51:16,400 Speaker 3: her friends or work. Text all seem normal too, nothing shady. 1100 00:51:16,760 --> 00:51:20,360 Speaker 3: There's also no shady apps just look like games and 1101 00:51:20,400 --> 00:51:25,200 Speaker 3: social media. And nothing in these social except requests from 1102 00:51:25,239 --> 00:51:29,319 Speaker 3: guys she either has it responded to or troll responded to. 1103 00:51:29,760 --> 00:51:32,879 Speaker 3: She's pretty relaxed with her phone. She uses it a lot, 1104 00:51:32,960 --> 00:51:35,239 Speaker 3: but doesn't guard it, if you know what I mean. 1105 00:51:35,800 --> 00:51:38,600 Speaker 3: She seems to swipe away when she's super engaged on 1106 00:51:38,680 --> 00:51:41,040 Speaker 3: it and I come over, we have an update. 1107 00:51:41,280 --> 00:51:44,279 Speaker 5: Maybe maybe she's trying to surprise you with something that's 1108 00:51:44,320 --> 00:51:47,000 Speaker 5: like the weird swiping, but then the ring stuff. She 1109 00:51:47,160 --> 00:51:49,760 Speaker 5: makes a decent case in point, but still weird. 1110 00:51:50,000 --> 00:51:52,600 Speaker 3: Van Kamper is asking the question we're all asking. I 1111 00:51:52,680 --> 00:51:54,560 Speaker 3: need to know how she gets. 1112 00:51:55,840 --> 00:51:57,719 Speaker 5: I need to know how clumsy she is. I need 1113 00:51:57,719 --> 00:52:00,920 Speaker 5: to know how clumsy she is and without being and 1114 00:52:00,960 --> 00:52:03,880 Speaker 5: then how clumsy she is when she does get a 1115 00:52:03,920 --> 00:52:04,600 Speaker 5: little drinky. 1116 00:52:04,719 --> 00:52:06,600 Speaker 3: You know, I need to see her walk through her 1117 00:52:06,600 --> 00:52:10,080 Speaker 3: thrifts a china an antique shop. I need to see 1118 00:52:10,120 --> 00:52:13,480 Speaker 3: her walking through an antique shop, sober and then off 1119 00:52:13,520 --> 00:52:16,759 Speaker 3: of three drinks, then I'll get my answer. Miss Ray says, 1120 00:52:16,800 --> 00:52:19,160 Speaker 3: wouldn't the ring be more endangered when she's wearing it 1121 00:52:19,200 --> 00:52:21,080 Speaker 3: at the gym because it might break when she puts 1122 00:52:21,120 --> 00:52:23,120 Speaker 3: in a little keychain? Key change? 1123 00:52:23,160 --> 00:52:25,080 Speaker 8: Yeah, she puts it, Yeah, in a little. 1124 00:52:25,480 --> 00:52:27,480 Speaker 3: And Van Camper says it's because it's one thing to 1125 00:52:27,520 --> 00:52:29,480 Speaker 3: put your ring into a keychain when you're working out, 1126 00:52:29,719 --> 00:52:32,000 Speaker 3: it's another to do it when because I have lost 1127 00:52:32,040 --> 00:52:35,640 Speaker 3: my keys when that's what I'm thinking to update. So, 1128 00:52:36,520 --> 00:52:40,040 Speaker 3: after a lot of advice, I just decided to surprise 1129 00:52:40,120 --> 00:52:42,920 Speaker 3: her while she was out last night to see her 1130 00:52:42,960 --> 00:52:48,000 Speaker 3: true reaction. Like someone suggested, she told me where she 1131 00:52:48,160 --> 00:52:51,440 Speaker 3: was going, but it's not uncommon for her to bounce 1132 00:52:51,480 --> 00:52:55,080 Speaker 3: around different places, so I had to check her location, 1133 00:52:55,480 --> 00:52:58,080 Speaker 3: which we she are on Apple Maps. When I got there, 1134 00:52:58,239 --> 00:53:01,440 Speaker 3: I saw her quickly, but this dec to watch for 1135 00:53:01,520 --> 00:53:04,040 Speaker 3: a bit see how she acts when I'm not around. 1136 00:53:04,520 --> 00:53:07,239 Speaker 3: Sorry if this sounds creepy. She was just talking to 1137 00:53:07,320 --> 00:53:10,760 Speaker 3: some guys and hugged them, which made me more nervous, 1138 00:53:10,880 --> 00:53:14,320 Speaker 3: but it seemed more friendly than anything. Like I said, 1139 00:53:14,360 --> 00:53:18,400 Speaker 3: She's extremely extroverted and knows a lot of people. She 1140 00:53:18,520 --> 00:53:21,640 Speaker 3: acted like her normal self dancing and when a song 1141 00:53:21,719 --> 00:53:25,600 Speaker 3: came on, you'd grind or twerk on someone. She danced 1142 00:53:25,640 --> 00:53:28,480 Speaker 3: on with her friends or vice versa. Except for one moment, 1143 00:53:28,600 --> 00:53:31,000 Speaker 3: a guy twerked on her as a joke and she 1144 00:53:31,120 --> 00:53:33,520 Speaker 3: pretended to be the guy, which was funny, okay, acceptable, 1145 00:53:33,560 --> 00:53:36,040 Speaker 3: I'm okay with that. After a few songs, I came 1146 00:53:36,080 --> 00:53:38,279 Speaker 3: over and she screamed and hugged me and started to 1147 00:53:38,280 --> 00:53:40,920 Speaker 3: introduce me to everyone, which made me feel good. One 1148 00:53:40,920 --> 00:53:43,560 Speaker 3: of the guys she hugs at something like the famous 1149 00:53:43,560 --> 00:53:47,400 Speaker 3: fiance or something, so I'm clearly not a secret. The 1150 00:53:47,560 --> 00:53:50,919 Speaker 3: night ended well. She and her girlfriends were wasted, so 1151 00:53:51,120 --> 00:53:53,560 Speaker 3: I got them food and took them home. When we 1152 00:53:53,600 --> 00:53:56,440 Speaker 3: got home, I decided it was the best time to ask, 1153 00:53:56,480 --> 00:54:00,400 Speaker 3: because wasted people tend to be their most on, so 1154 00:54:00,440 --> 00:54:03,319 Speaker 3: I asked her flout out why she keeps hiding her 1155 00:54:03,360 --> 00:54:07,520 Speaker 3: phone when I come around. I don't like this technique. 1156 00:54:08,000 --> 00:54:09,600 Speaker 3: I've done this with my friend and he was so 1157 00:54:09,680 --> 00:54:13,480 Speaker 3: honest and he didn't understand what I was talking about. 1158 00:54:14,080 --> 00:54:16,680 Speaker 3: She said she doesn't hide her phone and asked what 1159 00:54:16,760 --> 00:54:20,120 Speaker 3: I was talking about. Then I described it. She made 1160 00:54:20,120 --> 00:54:23,280 Speaker 3: a face and smiled like she was nervous. She asked 1161 00:54:23,280 --> 00:54:26,440 Speaker 3: if I really wanted to know, then tried laughing really hard. 1162 00:54:26,600 --> 00:54:29,760 Speaker 3: Turns out she was playing this game that's like reading 1163 00:54:29,800 --> 00:54:33,280 Speaker 3: a book that's animated and you choose how the story goes, 1164 00:54:33,400 --> 00:54:36,680 Speaker 3: called episode or something. He plays games like the SIMS, 1165 00:54:36,760 --> 00:54:40,000 Speaker 3: so this tracks okay. She said the stories can be 1166 00:54:40,080 --> 00:54:44,040 Speaker 3: really cringey, and she was embarrassed because sometimes she feels 1167 00:54:44,040 --> 00:54:47,560 Speaker 3: like our age difference makes her feel immature, especially with 1168 00:54:47,640 --> 00:54:51,400 Speaker 3: the life experiences I've had before her. I left home young, 1169 00:54:51,680 --> 00:54:54,120 Speaker 3: and she grew up well off and is supported by 1170 00:54:54,120 --> 00:54:57,040 Speaker 3: her parents In many ways. She's the type to join 1171 00:54:57,080 --> 00:55:00,400 Speaker 3: in with the kids at the trampoline park, loves pink arkles, 1172 00:55:00,480 --> 00:55:04,560 Speaker 3: and styles her locks in fun ways. She's always getting 1173 00:55:04,600 --> 00:55:06,920 Speaker 3: me outside of try new things, but also likes to 1174 00:55:06,960 --> 00:55:09,840 Speaker 3: do the low key things I like. I guess the 1175 00:55:09,880 --> 00:55:12,520 Speaker 3: contrast of her personalities made her feel like I would 1176 00:55:12,600 --> 00:55:15,520 Speaker 3: judge her for the app, but I don't care. I'm 1177 00:55:15,560 --> 00:55:18,640 Speaker 3: just really glad she's not cheating. Aloel, thanks for all 1178 00:55:18,640 --> 00:55:22,440 Speaker 3: the advice, guys. Yay, every single one of you that 1179 00:55:22,480 --> 00:55:26,720 Speaker 3: typed one is wrong. She's just likes the episode. 1180 00:55:26,400 --> 00:55:28,120 Speaker 7: And that's the end of the story, we're gonna read 1181 00:55:28,200 --> 00:55:28,640 Speaker 7: the next one. 1182 00:55:29,760 --> 00:55:34,000 Speaker 2: Hey, it's Angie, your favorite fake redhead host here, and 1183 00:55:34,320 --> 00:55:35,840 Speaker 2: we're going to get back to the stories. 1184 00:55:35,880 --> 00:55:39,000 Speaker 1: But here's a three minute ad break from our sponsors. 1185 00:55:39,480 --> 00:55:42,759 Speaker 8: I cheated on my boyfriend and told him. Now I 1186 00:55:42,800 --> 00:55:43,360 Speaker 8: have a new. 1187 00:55:43,239 --> 00:55:45,280 Speaker 3: Boyfriend, New boyfriend time. 1188 00:55:45,960 --> 00:55:49,279 Speaker 10: I'm twenty one female, honestly overwhelmed by the situation and 1189 00:55:49,400 --> 00:55:51,560 Speaker 10: need all the options I can get. I've been with 1190 00:55:51,680 --> 00:55:54,600 Speaker 10: my current boyfriend, twenty three male for two years, and 1191 00:55:54,680 --> 00:55:58,000 Speaker 10: my post might suggest otherwise, but I do love him 1192 00:55:58,080 --> 00:56:01,040 Speaker 10: a lot. We both come from the same small town 1193 00:56:01,120 --> 00:56:03,839 Speaker 10: and even went to the same school. Back then, we 1194 00:56:03,960 --> 00:56:07,000 Speaker 10: never even really talked, mainly because he was a year 1195 00:56:07,000 --> 00:56:09,319 Speaker 10: above me, but we went on to study at the 1196 00:56:09,320 --> 00:56:12,759 Speaker 10: same university and grew closer until we started dating. By 1197 00:56:12,800 --> 00:56:15,600 Speaker 10: the way, this comes from Bad Elegant thirty seven five, 1198 00:56:15,640 --> 00:56:17,040 Speaker 10: and if you want to submit your own stories, go 1199 00:56:17,080 --> 00:56:18,960 Speaker 10: to the r slash Okay Storytime subreda. 1200 00:56:19,080 --> 00:56:21,680 Speaker 6: I'm Savannah, I'm Riley Keon, and. 1201 00:56:21,600 --> 00:56:23,200 Speaker 10: We're here to give some good advice in a little 1202 00:56:23,239 --> 00:56:25,520 Speaker 10: goofy manner. But we don't have all the answers. You 1203 00:56:25,640 --> 00:56:27,080 Speaker 10: only tell you what we would do, but you shall 1204 00:56:27,160 --> 00:56:27,520 Speaker 10: let us. 1205 00:56:27,400 --> 00:56:29,360 Speaker 8: Know what you would do down in the comments. 1206 00:56:30,239 --> 00:56:33,800 Speaker 10: As OPI says, back in early March, I visited my brother, 1207 00:56:33,880 --> 00:56:37,480 Speaker 10: twenty six male, who studies abroad through a scholarship, and 1208 00:56:37,520 --> 00:56:39,960 Speaker 10: got along really well with one of his friends, twenty 1209 00:56:39,960 --> 00:56:43,040 Speaker 10: five mail. We stayed in contact after I return home, 1210 00:56:43,080 --> 00:56:45,720 Speaker 10: and often FaceTime to update each other on our lives. 1211 00:56:46,280 --> 00:56:48,920 Speaker 10: Some people might already consider this a form of cheating, 1212 00:56:49,239 --> 00:56:51,520 Speaker 10: but I genuinely saw him as more of a really 1213 00:56:51,560 --> 00:56:54,560 Speaker 10: good friend until recently. The more we got to know 1214 00:56:54,640 --> 00:56:58,280 Speaker 10: each other, the more my feelings changed from platonic to romantic, 1215 00:56:58,480 --> 00:57:02,239 Speaker 10: and I feel horrible. We have many of the same interests. 1216 00:57:02,320 --> 00:57:04,360 Speaker 10: He's asking me to join him when he goes to 1217 00:57:04,400 --> 00:57:08,000 Speaker 10: his family's summer house. Even offered me a potential internship 1218 00:57:08,000 --> 00:57:11,040 Speaker 10: at his dad's company, which is an insane opportunity for me. 1219 00:57:11,480 --> 00:57:13,719 Speaker 10: His parents have already grown fond of me, even though 1220 00:57:13,760 --> 00:57:16,680 Speaker 10: I've only met them once. I hate myself for this, 1221 00:57:16,800 --> 00:57:18,720 Speaker 10: but I think I'm starting to fall in love with him. 1222 00:57:19,400 --> 00:57:21,680 Speaker 10: I think the feeling is mutual, since my brother told 1223 00:57:21,760 --> 00:57:24,760 Speaker 10: me he asks about me a lot. I just felt 1224 00:57:24,800 --> 00:57:27,520 Speaker 10: so happy around him. From the moment we met. I 1225 00:57:27,520 --> 00:57:30,520 Speaker 10: already miss him. The last thing I want to do 1226 00:57:30,840 --> 00:57:33,640 Speaker 10: is cheeto my boyfriend, so I can either shut down 1227 00:57:33,640 --> 00:57:36,160 Speaker 10: my new feelings or break up with him. Would I 1228 00:57:36,280 --> 00:57:38,680 Speaker 10: be the a hole if I did? If I had 1229 00:57:38,720 --> 00:57:41,000 Speaker 10: a valid reason to break up, I wouldn't even feel bad. 1230 00:57:41,120 --> 00:57:44,120 Speaker 10: But again, I still love him. I can never forgive 1231 00:57:44,160 --> 00:57:47,040 Speaker 10: myself for breaking his heart, especially knowing I will either 1232 00:57:47,080 --> 00:57:49,280 Speaker 10: have to tell him the reason, or if I don't, 1233 00:57:49,320 --> 00:57:51,880 Speaker 10: he will eventually find out. One thing I appreciate about 1234 00:57:51,920 --> 00:57:54,360 Speaker 10: my brother's friend is the fact that he's very respectful 1235 00:57:54,440 --> 00:57:57,320 Speaker 10: and patient. He doesn't know I have a boyfriend, but 1236 00:57:57,440 --> 00:58:00,520 Speaker 10: his attempts on flirting are very subtle, and it makes 1237 00:58:00,520 --> 00:58:04,040 Speaker 10: me feel like I'm not in a rush to choose yet. Regardless, 1238 00:58:04,280 --> 00:58:06,440 Speaker 10: I do want to finally make the choice. 1239 00:58:06,520 --> 00:58:07,680 Speaker 6: And there's an update, all right? 1240 00:58:07,920 --> 00:58:10,160 Speaker 3: Number one? Where is this a broad trip? Are we 1241 00:58:10,200 --> 00:58:12,680 Speaker 3: in Germany or are we in France. 1242 00:58:12,680 --> 00:58:14,600 Speaker 5: Or Italy or like idaho? 1243 00:58:16,440 --> 00:58:19,040 Speaker 6: I guess, yeah, yeah, she is the ho. 1244 00:58:19,720 --> 00:58:23,280 Speaker 3: Ooh, that's a good point. Number two. The most common 1245 00:58:23,360 --> 00:58:25,400 Speaker 3: word I got in the second half of that when 1246 00:58:25,400 --> 00:58:28,120 Speaker 3: we started talking about this new guy was the word think. 1247 00:58:29,080 --> 00:58:32,520 Speaker 3: I think, think, think, think, think think. We're in her 1248 00:58:32,560 --> 00:58:37,640 Speaker 3: head and we're thinking about a possible future rather than predictability. Now, 1249 00:58:37,640 --> 00:58:39,720 Speaker 3: I know you're young, and this seems fun and this 1250 00:58:39,760 --> 00:58:41,680 Speaker 3: is a thing of episode. Here's my last thing I 1251 00:58:41,760 --> 00:58:43,840 Speaker 3: want to say. There's this quote back where I'm from. 1252 00:58:43,880 --> 00:58:45,560 Speaker 3: It's called if you fall in love with two people, 1253 00:58:45,800 --> 00:58:47,880 Speaker 3: choose the second one, because if you truly love the 1254 00:58:47,880 --> 00:58:50,000 Speaker 3: first person, you want to fall in love with a 1255 00:58:50,040 --> 00:58:50,640 Speaker 3: second person. 1256 00:58:51,240 --> 00:58:53,240 Speaker 5: Oh wow, I love your I love that you're from 1257 00:58:53,280 --> 00:58:53,880 Speaker 5: Johnny Depp. 1258 00:58:54,360 --> 00:58:56,240 Speaker 6: You're from Johnny say that? 1259 00:58:56,320 --> 00:58:58,160 Speaker 3: Oh my god. My cousin told me that, thinking it 1260 00:58:58,200 --> 00:59:02,360 Speaker 3: was like something from the South. My world shattered. I 1261 00:59:02,400 --> 00:59:05,240 Speaker 3: thought it was like old Southern proverb or something. All right, 1262 00:59:05,280 --> 00:59:07,160 Speaker 3: Johnny Depp, it is. That's even cooler. 1263 00:59:07,760 --> 00:59:08,720 Speaker 1: I love Johnny Depp. 1264 00:59:09,720 --> 00:59:12,000 Speaker 3: Katie says, okay, Op, the next step would be to 1265 00:59:12,040 --> 00:59:15,000 Speaker 3: talk to your right now boyfriend about how you're feeling, 1266 00:59:15,040 --> 00:59:18,200 Speaker 3: instead of him finding out and your brother's friend and 1267 00:59:18,280 --> 00:59:20,680 Speaker 3: finding out about you and your brother's friend from someone else. 1268 00:59:20,720 --> 00:59:22,200 Speaker 3: How do we feel about what I said? What do 1269 00:59:22,200 --> 00:59:22,880 Speaker 3: you think about that? 1270 00:59:23,000 --> 00:59:26,040 Speaker 10: Honestly, it's kind of valid. I mean, I I don't 1271 00:59:26,040 --> 00:59:29,360 Speaker 10: know she's the second one because we truly. 1272 00:59:29,120 --> 00:59:29,800 Speaker 8: Love the person. 1273 00:59:30,840 --> 00:59:32,720 Speaker 3: Johnny Zepp came up with that. 1274 00:59:32,920 --> 00:59:34,840 Speaker 5: From I love that you're from Johnny Depp. 1275 00:59:34,880 --> 00:59:35,560 Speaker 8: That's crazy. 1276 00:59:35,720 --> 00:59:36,880 Speaker 3: I heard that in high school. 1277 00:59:36,880 --> 00:59:38,440 Speaker 5: I thought it was like, so you thought that was like, 1278 00:59:38,640 --> 00:59:40,800 Speaker 5: that's that's poetic, that's historical. 1279 00:59:43,520 --> 00:59:44,400 Speaker 6: I love how. 1280 00:59:44,280 --> 00:59:45,200 Speaker 1: You're from Johnny. 1281 00:59:45,680 --> 00:59:48,960 Speaker 3: Well, Johnny is from the South? Is he all right? Predictions? 1282 00:59:49,240 --> 00:59:52,920 Speaker 5: I think your world's entirely flipped upside down because you're like, 1283 00:59:52,960 --> 00:59:55,400 Speaker 5: I live by this quote because it's from where I'm from. 1284 00:59:55,800 --> 00:59:56,120 Speaker 3: I don't know. 1285 00:59:56,160 --> 00:59:57,360 Speaker 5: I thought I was like, is he really pulling this 1286 00:59:57,400 --> 00:59:58,040 Speaker 5: out of his ass? 1287 00:59:58,600 --> 01:00:02,000 Speaker 3: I am? I am process right now. I'm a little 1288 01:00:02,040 --> 01:00:03,680 Speaker 3: pissed at my cousin because he's the one that told 1289 01:00:03,760 --> 01:00:07,840 Speaker 3: me this. But predictions, is she gonna go with? Which episode? 1290 01:00:07,880 --> 01:00:08,600 Speaker 3: Do we go with? 1291 01:00:08,720 --> 01:00:09,160 Speaker 7: Guys? 1292 01:00:09,440 --> 01:00:12,000 Speaker 5: I think she's going for number two, number two? I 1293 01:00:12,000 --> 01:00:15,800 Speaker 5: don't know number two really like guy number two. She's like, 1294 01:00:15,880 --> 01:00:18,680 Speaker 5: I'm getting all of these things on the table, like 1295 01:00:18,760 --> 01:00:22,800 Speaker 5: it's a huge opportunity for me. Uh, this sounds great. 1296 01:00:23,040 --> 01:00:25,040 Speaker 5: My boyfriend currently doesn't do this for me. 1297 01:00:25,480 --> 01:00:28,760 Speaker 3: Dude, I mean it does sound nice. I'm always down 1298 01:00:28,880 --> 01:00:31,160 Speaker 3: for be with someone that will make you a better 1299 01:00:31,240 --> 01:00:33,360 Speaker 3: version of yourself or expand your mindset. 1300 01:00:33,560 --> 01:00:35,560 Speaker 8: Yeah, I agree, and. 1301 01:00:35,400 --> 01:00:37,520 Speaker 3: I hate that. I'm feeling like number two is the 1302 01:00:37,560 --> 01:00:40,080 Speaker 3: best option here. Oh he's selling it pretty well. 1303 01:00:40,200 --> 01:00:40,760 Speaker 8: There's an uphing. 1304 01:00:41,000 --> 01:00:43,680 Speaker 10: After posting this, I realized I'm probably just resorting to 1305 01:00:43,720 --> 01:00:46,840 Speaker 10: Reddit because I was scared of confrontation and needed someone 1306 01:00:46,840 --> 01:00:48,840 Speaker 10: to finally tell me to talk to both my boyfriend 1307 01:00:48,880 --> 01:00:52,400 Speaker 10: and I'm the guy I know or I now like. 1308 01:00:53,080 --> 01:00:53,840 Speaker 8: I think if I. 1309 01:00:53,800 --> 01:00:56,000 Speaker 10: Had pushed it off further, the situation would be ten 1310 01:00:56,040 --> 01:00:58,760 Speaker 10: times worse, So thank god I didn't. I called my 1311 01:00:58,880 --> 01:01:02,959 Speaker 10: boyfriend pretty much started crying immediately. He obviously knew something 1312 01:01:03,000 --> 01:01:05,000 Speaker 10: was wrong, and so I told him my developed feelings 1313 01:01:05,000 --> 01:01:07,200 Speaker 10: for a guy my brother introduced to me. I also 1314 01:01:07,240 --> 01:01:09,680 Speaker 10: admitted there was some flirting on his part and that 1315 01:01:09,760 --> 01:01:12,560 Speaker 10: I never shut it down. My boyfriend was angry and 1316 01:01:12,680 --> 01:01:15,760 Speaker 10: heartbroken and has every right to be, but he stayed 1317 01:01:15,760 --> 01:01:18,360 Speaker 10: mostly calm and trusted me when I said we had 1318 01:01:18,480 --> 01:01:22,320 Speaker 10: never been intimate. We agreed that our relationship is over 1319 01:01:22,560 --> 01:01:25,600 Speaker 10: and I'm meaning soon to talk in person. I was 1320 01:01:25,640 --> 01:01:28,720 Speaker 10: surprised at how understanding he was, but I also know 1321 01:01:28,800 --> 01:01:31,120 Speaker 10: he's probably hurting a lot. I think we will still 1322 01:01:31,360 --> 01:01:33,960 Speaker 10: be in contact until we finish university, but I don't 1323 01:01:33,960 --> 01:01:37,680 Speaker 10: think we can be friends after this. I'm nervous about 1324 01:01:37,680 --> 01:01:40,400 Speaker 10: talking to him in person, but the fact that he 1325 01:01:40,400 --> 01:01:43,520 Speaker 10: didn't lash out helps. I also called the guy I like, 1326 01:01:43,560 --> 01:01:45,320 Speaker 10: told him about my feelings and that I had a 1327 01:01:45,320 --> 01:01:47,040 Speaker 10: boyfriend up until a few minutes ago. 1328 01:01:47,240 --> 01:01:51,360 Speaker 3: Oh my gosh, you are moving too fast here, slow 1329 01:01:51,440 --> 01:01:51,919 Speaker 3: your role. 1330 01:01:52,480 --> 01:01:54,520 Speaker 6: She doesn't want to be with Yeah, it was always 1331 01:01:54,600 --> 01:01:55,000 Speaker 6: number two. 1332 01:01:55,120 --> 01:01:59,240 Speaker 10: Yeah, she doesn't want to be with one, which, unfortunately. 1333 01:01:58,680 --> 01:01:59,919 Speaker 8: Like sucks for that guy. 1334 01:02:00,200 --> 01:02:02,080 Speaker 10: I told him that the reason I didn't break up 1335 01:02:02,120 --> 01:02:04,080 Speaker 10: earlier was because I wasn't sure what to make of 1336 01:02:04,080 --> 01:02:06,520 Speaker 10: my new feelings and also scared of my boyfriend's reaction. 1337 01:02:07,200 --> 01:02:09,360 Speaker 10: He was very understanding and asked me if I still 1338 01:02:09,360 --> 01:02:12,200 Speaker 10: love my ex, but the truth is I don't. He 1339 01:02:12,320 --> 01:02:14,840 Speaker 10: also told me he had actually been wondering why I 1340 01:02:14,880 --> 01:02:18,240 Speaker 10: always got so awkward when he complimented me. Now he understands. 1341 01:02:18,280 --> 01:02:20,800 Speaker 3: Why Read the first two sentences and then I'll have 1342 01:02:20,840 --> 01:02:21,480 Speaker 3: something to say. 1343 01:02:21,560 --> 01:02:23,160 Speaker 10: This is the first time I was the one to 1344 01:02:23,200 --> 01:02:26,240 Speaker 10: confess my love first, and I was extremely nervous, but 1345 01:02:26,320 --> 01:02:28,600 Speaker 10: he confirmed the feeling was mutual, and now we're planning 1346 01:02:28,600 --> 01:02:31,920 Speaker 10: on meeting again soon, plus going on vacation together. We 1347 01:02:32,000 --> 01:02:33,960 Speaker 10: live in different countries, as you know for my original 1348 01:02:33,960 --> 01:02:36,240 Speaker 10: post whoa Girl. 1349 01:02:36,520 --> 01:02:39,160 Speaker 5: She's like, I love him because we get to do 1350 01:02:39,240 --> 01:02:41,360 Speaker 5: so many fun things. I don't go back to my 1351 01:02:41,480 --> 01:02:43,440 Speaker 5: small town. I ow to different countries. 1352 01:02:43,480 --> 01:02:47,960 Speaker 3: Now, this is way too fast. Good things come slowly, alright, 1353 01:02:48,040 --> 01:02:49,080 Speaker 3: people do things. 1354 01:02:49,280 --> 01:02:52,600 Speaker 10: Yes, he's so mature and sweet about it and wants 1355 01:02:52,600 --> 01:02:55,160 Speaker 10: me to take my time getting from my first relationship 1356 01:02:55,200 --> 01:02:56,040 Speaker 10: into this new one. 1357 01:02:56,160 --> 01:02:57,560 Speaker 8: But I know I love him. 1358 01:02:58,000 --> 01:03:01,160 Speaker 10: I've actually never been this yere about it anything, and 1359 01:03:01,240 --> 01:03:02,880 Speaker 10: so I said yes when he asked me to be 1360 01:03:02,960 --> 01:03:03,520 Speaker 10: his girlfriend. 1361 01:03:03,560 --> 01:03:03,880 Speaker 7: Girl. 1362 01:03:03,960 --> 01:03:05,920 Speaker 8: How quick was that like a few minutes after he 1363 01:03:05,960 --> 01:03:06,400 Speaker 8: broke up? 1364 01:03:06,560 --> 01:03:07,720 Speaker 3: Yep, Yeah, that's crazy. 1365 01:03:07,800 --> 01:03:09,440 Speaker 8: I've never ever been able to do that. 1366 01:03:09,640 --> 01:03:12,880 Speaker 10: I've always like, i mean, between like my relationships, there's 1367 01:03:12,880 --> 01:03:15,640 Speaker 10: always been like two three years and then like, all. 1368 01:03:15,640 --> 01:03:17,960 Speaker 3: Right, you've been with the guy that you grew up with, 1369 01:03:18,320 --> 01:03:20,200 Speaker 3: went to the same university because you guys just went 1370 01:03:20,240 --> 01:03:22,919 Speaker 3: the same high school. High school, sweetheart, it's just the same. 1371 01:03:22,960 --> 01:03:24,360 Speaker 3: He's just the same all the time. And he get 1372 01:03:24,360 --> 01:03:26,960 Speaker 3: this new experience, this new exciting thing. When't you just 1373 01:03:27,080 --> 01:03:29,520 Speaker 3: jump ship to this new exciting no jet ski. 1374 01:03:29,480 --> 01:03:32,320 Speaker 10: No, Because I always think, like, why would I just 1375 01:03:32,520 --> 01:03:34,920 Speaker 10: waste all of that time when I like, I've been 1376 01:03:34,920 --> 01:03:37,040 Speaker 10: with this person, I've grown with them, I've been with 1377 01:03:37,120 --> 01:03:39,120 Speaker 10: them this entire time. Why would I just all of 1378 01:03:39,160 --> 01:03:41,640 Speaker 10: a sudden, like just throw all of that away for 1379 01:03:41,760 --> 01:03:46,240 Speaker 10: this thing that might work. That's my that's my like thing. Yeah. 1380 01:03:46,440 --> 01:03:48,600 Speaker 10: And I would tell that to my ex too, because 1381 01:03:48,600 --> 01:03:50,720 Speaker 10: he'd always he was just like very insecure. 1382 01:03:50,920 --> 01:03:52,360 Speaker 6: You always be like any you're gonna cheat on me. 1383 01:03:52,360 --> 01:03:54,640 Speaker 3: I'm like, Okay, how old is this chick again? Twenty one? 1384 01:03:56,880 --> 01:03:59,040 Speaker 6: Yeah, she got a lot of life to live twenty one. 1385 01:03:59,720 --> 01:04:00,880 Speaker 3: Is there anything else left now? 1386 01:04:00,920 --> 01:04:01,240 Speaker 8: There's not. 1387 01:04:01,360 --> 01:04:02,360 Speaker 7: And that's the end of the story.