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Speaker 1: Boom. Welcome to today's I Am Wrapp Reports Stereo Podcast.

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Speaker 1: We're I have a man, an actor who needs no introduction.

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Speaker 1: I have Chris McDonald a k A Shooter McGavin, who

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Speaker 1: has been kicking ass as an actor for decades, everything

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Speaker 1: from Thelma and Louise to Quiz Show to Requiem for

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Speaker 1: a Dream, Too Happy Gilmour, where he start along Adam

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Speaker 1: Sandler with the iconic performance as Shooter but Gavin. This

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Speaker 1: is a world class, fantastic I am Wrapp Reports Stereo Pockets.

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Speaker 1: Myles Jordan a K. The Bleach Brothers a K that

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Speaker 1: does mother start his puppy of. It's up real nice,

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Speaker 1: start this puppy off. It's something real loud, yes, but

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Speaker 1: most appointingly, start to puppy off with something real funky.

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Speaker 1: I wrapports Stereo Pockets. Let's go. I am Rapp for

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Speaker 1: Stereo Podcast. Very very very excited. One of my favorite actors.

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Speaker 1: I'm sure a lot of people also considering one of

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Speaker 1: their favorites, Chris McDonald, the great, longtime veteran kick ass

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Speaker 1: actor and Buffalo Bill's super fan. I would have to

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Speaker 1: go with either fan or super fan fan plus probably

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Speaker 1: super fan. Yeah. I mean, they're the best, well not

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Speaker 1: the best, but they boy, were fun to watch this year.

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Speaker 1: But thanks for having me, Michael, what a joy. I

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Speaker 1: appreciate you coming on. Like I said, I've been a

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Speaker 1: longtime fan, but I have to I have to just

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Speaker 1: back up because they said Buffalo Bill super fan, and

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Speaker 1: you don't seem like you want to embrace being a

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Speaker 1: super fan. Are you not a super fan or do

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Speaker 1: you think that you into like like almost like Howard

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Speaker 1: sterned whackpack level. Yeah, a mafia Bills mafia to a

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Speaker 1: certain extent. There's and then the craziness happens. And I'm

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Speaker 1: not that guy. I once went to a Super Bowl.

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Speaker 1: It was the Colts versus the Jets. I think, no,

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Speaker 1: no Colts first as anyway, was at the Jet Stadium.

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Speaker 1: The game was over. Oh the Seahawks, of course, and

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Speaker 1: the Seahawks got him the first thing, and they started

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Speaker 1: this is what they do, s Hawks the entire game. Okay,

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Speaker 1: they're the twelve men on the field. And I turned

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Speaker 1: around to the girls and I said, seriously, the whole game.

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Speaker 1: Oh no, we just started. I said, oh my god,

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Speaker 1: I'm not that kind of fan. I'm not gonna be

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Speaker 1: that that screaming person in public? In public? True? Okay,

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Speaker 1: Now at home I'm asking I don't know at home

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Speaker 1: see the place, and I go, are you kidding me?

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Speaker 1: Could you see that arm? Can we see that again?

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Speaker 1: I rerun things I said, you gotta get in there

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Speaker 1: and see this one. It's unbelievable. The show they put on,

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Speaker 1: especially this year at last year's been amazing. Do you

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Speaker 1: think if you weren't recognizable actor you would be able

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Speaker 1: to embrace I feel like you want to jump off

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Speaker 1: And I feel like the only thing that's doing it

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Speaker 1: be like a good thing. But I feel like you're

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Speaker 1: not embracing your true Bills Mafia super fandom? Am I rong?

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Speaker 1: Am I looking too deep into this? No? Would you

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Speaker 1: depending on the game. First of all, depending on who

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Speaker 1: Then I would probably do it, but for the most part,

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Speaker 1: and I gotta say I've embraced it. I've learned to

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Speaker 1: I guess it's like three years ago and I had

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Speaker 1: do now. It's got a great but I listened. I

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Speaker 1: love the fans, they're awesome. But you grew up where

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Speaker 1: of State New York? I was? I'm a Long Island guy,

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Speaker 1: this weekend, the Philadelphia Eagles versus the Kansas City Chiefs.

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Speaker 1: Who you got? Why do you got them? Do Buffalo

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Speaker 1: Eagle fans I don't think so. I think they're more

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Speaker 1: upset that, uh, we're not there and a team that

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Speaker 1: But that's the why I'm thinking I'm going for the

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Speaker 1: They're good. I mean, Kansas City is freaking good and

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Speaker 1: that quarterback is unbelievable. It's hard not to like my homeboy.

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Speaker 1: My homes a great guy and he's couldn't be nicer either.

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Speaker 1: I met him, my name was like a great great kid,

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Speaker 1: and I said, wow, man, kudos team. He's got skills,

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Speaker 1: crazy skills. He's ridiculous. But it's I think, I think

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Speaker 1: in many ways. Josh Allen's sick, sick arm sick runner.

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Speaker 1: I mean, he's just fearless. He's sick arm, sick runner disposition,

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Speaker 1: He's sick. You studied at Stella Adler Acting School? Is

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Speaker 1: that method acting not quite the opposite? So for you?

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Speaker 1: And I've asked over these because I I never went

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Speaker 1: then explain what method acting is two people, because as

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Speaker 1: of but breakdown with the Stella Adler technique was the

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Speaker 1: and that's where Stella was there with in her husband

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Speaker 1: And she was hearing all this stuff about sense memory

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Speaker 1: to that moment. She disagreed. She said, I'm going to

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Speaker 1: I benefited immeasurably from it. What based on what you

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Speaker 1: know is method acting? And have you ever I've never

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Speaker 1: to explain what method acting is and answer this. Have

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Speaker 1: Every other day he did a different play and I

424
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Speaker 1: saw and I just my mouth was on the floor

425
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Speaker 1: that you cannot believe that he is doing this the

426
00:21:24,200 --> 00:21:29,399
Speaker 1: amount of pure volume of lines. How do you I

427
00:21:30,720 --> 00:21:34,400
Speaker 1: was just absolutely blown away and still them by his acting.

428
00:21:34,400 --> 00:21:37,280
Speaker 1: He's a wonderful actor. But boy, those days were like wow.

429
00:21:37,320 --> 00:21:38,880
Speaker 1: And then I met him after, which is, oh, would

430
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Speaker 1: you like to play like the play? What are you

431
00:21:41,440 --> 00:21:44,840
Speaker 1: talking about? Syria? You killed it? And I just I

432
00:21:44,840 --> 00:21:47,760
Speaker 1: gotta say that you're making me want to do what

433
00:21:47,840 --> 00:21:49,359
Speaker 1: you do so bad to see if I can at

434
00:21:49,400 --> 00:21:53,040
Speaker 1: least get a snippet of what you have changed. Because God,

435
00:21:53,080 --> 00:21:56,040
Speaker 1: you're you're You're a god in my eyes. As far

436
00:21:56,080 --> 00:21:58,680
Speaker 1: as if I was acting goes here and he was yes, Yeah,

437
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Speaker 1: I love that. Before podcast. You worked with great directors.

438
00:22:17,280 --> 00:22:20,399
Speaker 1: I'm not even gonna name all of them, and you

439
00:22:20,600 --> 00:22:22,680
Speaker 1: please chime in because I'm just named. I just wrote

440
00:22:22,720 --> 00:22:25,680
Speaker 1: down three because of the biggest name. You worked with

441
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Speaker 1: Ridley Scott Felman, Louise Massive, massive, successful movie, huge pop

442
00:22:33,720 --> 00:22:40,000
Speaker 1: culture phenomenon, ginormous movie. You worked with another actor turn

443
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Speaker 1: director Red. What didn't I say it Red for something,

444
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Speaker 1: Rob Robert two rs. I remember Robert Robert Roberto. No, ha,

445
00:22:52,400 --> 00:22:54,280
Speaker 1: something was red and then something was appening. It was

446
00:22:54,280 --> 00:22:56,880
Speaker 1: a red and then it was a four. You worked

447
00:22:56,880 --> 00:23:00,240
Speaker 1: with Robert Red, a great director on Quiz Show, which

448
00:23:00,240 --> 00:23:03,960
Speaker 1: I love that film. You worked with Darren Aronovski Requiem

449
00:23:04,119 --> 00:23:10,480
Speaker 1: for a Dream. What do directors do for you with

450
00:23:10,600 --> 00:23:14,080
Speaker 1: an actor? You know? Um? Because this is a question

451
00:23:14,119 --> 00:23:20,000
Speaker 1: that non actor, non show business people will ask, and

452
00:23:20,840 --> 00:23:24,119
Speaker 1: to explain it is, uh, it's hard to explain, you know.

453
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Speaker 1: For me, I've never had a director. I think a

454
00:23:27,320 --> 00:23:29,080
Speaker 1: lot of times people think like a director will do

455
00:23:29,119 --> 00:23:33,640
Speaker 1: like throw some magic potion on you, you know, um.

456
00:23:33,720 --> 00:23:37,560
Speaker 1: And I think everybody's interpretation of what a director does

457
00:23:37,680 --> 00:23:40,440
Speaker 1: for actors obviously visually they do all sorts of things, dude.

458
00:23:40,600 --> 00:23:43,240
Speaker 1: I mean, directors are answering questions and you know they're

459
00:23:43,280 --> 00:23:46,639
Speaker 1: picking this couch versus that table and that you know book,

460
00:23:46,680 --> 00:23:49,679
Speaker 1: and I mean they're doing so much. But speaking on

461
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Speaker 1: behalf of actors for you, um in film, these are

462
00:23:54,080 --> 00:23:56,200
Speaker 1: films because I know on television it's a different story,

463
00:23:56,240 --> 00:23:59,080
Speaker 1: specially which I want to ask that ask. But for you,

464
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Speaker 1: what does a a director do or doesn't do that

465
00:24:01,920 --> 00:24:04,000
Speaker 1: you would make them say this is a great director.

466
00:24:04,080 --> 00:24:07,080
Speaker 1: And if you could tie in those three names at all,

467
00:24:07,400 --> 00:24:09,600
Speaker 1: I gotta break it down that way because the first

468
00:24:09,600 --> 00:24:13,040
Speaker 1: one was a seminal moment for me to put me

469
00:24:13,080 --> 00:24:14,639
Speaker 1: out in the in the world of people like, oh

470
00:24:14,720 --> 00:24:18,239
Speaker 1: who is that guy? It was great, Really, Scott is

471
00:24:18,600 --> 00:24:21,000
Speaker 1: first of all, casting is everything they say, So you

472
00:24:21,000 --> 00:24:22,800
Speaker 1: know you've gotta be really you direct, you know, you

473
00:24:22,880 --> 00:24:26,200
Speaker 1: gotta cast that are the right people you want. And uh, anyway,

474
00:24:26,760 --> 00:24:29,840
Speaker 1: there was one movie in town and my ex Gina

475
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Speaker 1: Davis was the start of it. So you guys used

476
00:24:32,880 --> 00:24:35,240
Speaker 1: to we used to were engaged. We bought a house

477
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Speaker 1: to get had no idea. Yeah, it was a big

478
00:24:37,080 --> 00:24:40,719
Speaker 1: kind of a thing right here, AMZ Right there? But

479
00:24:40,880 --> 00:24:42,480
Speaker 1: she wrote about me in her books. She wrote this

480
00:24:42,720 --> 00:24:46,120
Speaker 1: book right there, just right now, that's really great, and uh,

481
00:24:46,359 --> 00:24:48,320
Speaker 1: she broke my heart but at the same and left

482
00:24:48,320 --> 00:24:50,080
Speaker 1: me for Jeff Goldman when she did this movie. Long

483
00:24:50,080 --> 00:24:53,199
Speaker 1: story short is, I was going to come up and

484
00:24:53,240 --> 00:24:55,720
Speaker 1: play the rapist. If you remember that movie, there's the

485
00:24:55,800 --> 00:24:58,280
Speaker 1: guy that was the whole like motor for the rest

486
00:24:58,320 --> 00:24:59,679
Speaker 1: of the movie. We got the hell out of here

487
00:24:59,680 --> 00:25:01,600
Speaker 1: and we're not going through Texas that kind of thing.

488
00:25:01,960 --> 00:25:04,199
Speaker 1: And I said, well, I would just basically take that

489
00:25:04,240 --> 00:25:06,560
Speaker 1: money go right to therapy. I'm not going to play

490
00:25:06,720 --> 00:25:08,760
Speaker 1: a rapist, but you know what, I'd be interested in

491
00:25:08,800 --> 00:25:12,639
Speaker 1: playing the husband. So she was already cast, already cast, Okay,

492
00:25:12,680 --> 00:25:15,320
Speaker 1: so go ahead. Now there are different stories about this,

493
00:25:15,359 --> 00:25:17,320
Speaker 1: but it doesn't really matter. The way I lived. I

494
00:25:17,320 --> 00:25:19,240
Speaker 1: went right into the lu Jajaima. I don't know if

495
00:25:19,240 --> 00:25:20,320
Speaker 1: you ever work with liut with the one of the

496
00:25:20,359 --> 00:25:23,120
Speaker 1: great cast and directors. And I walked in this room

497
00:25:23,200 --> 00:25:26,719
Speaker 1: and I I loved really Scott's work so much, and

498
00:25:26,800 --> 00:25:29,959
Speaker 1: I just basically knew I had to go out prepare

499
00:25:29,960 --> 00:25:31,359
Speaker 1: it and come in and do it. And there's not

500
00:25:31,480 --> 00:25:35,120
Speaker 1: fifteen people sitting including Bruce Willis, including all these other

501
00:25:35,200 --> 00:25:40,280
Speaker 1: great actors. Well, yeah, you know who's Huey Lewis was there.

502
00:25:40,320 --> 00:25:43,800
Speaker 1: Funnily enough, other actors that I've worked with before that.

503
00:25:44,520 --> 00:25:47,080
Speaker 1: But anyway, it was amazing just to go in there

504
00:25:47,119 --> 00:25:50,199
Speaker 1: and sit with them. And I had just I had

505
00:25:50,400 --> 00:25:52,160
Speaker 1: gone home. I lived close to where they were auditioning,

506
00:25:52,200 --> 00:25:54,800
Speaker 1: and I went on and put this perfect leisure suit

507
00:25:54,840 --> 00:25:56,159
Speaker 1: on it that I have had a little closet of

508
00:25:56,160 --> 00:25:58,320
Speaker 1: little things to wear, and I had this little thing

509
00:25:58,359 --> 00:26:00,720
Speaker 1: that went around my my things said number one on

510
00:26:00,760 --> 00:26:03,119
Speaker 1: It was given to me like a girl in high school.

511
00:26:03,359 --> 00:26:06,040
Speaker 1: She's doing so well. I love Grace Stewart, You're amazing,

512
00:26:06,520 --> 00:26:08,240
Speaker 1: and this is me. I saw Tupper where and I'm

513
00:26:08,320 --> 00:26:10,200
Speaker 1: number one and she said it to me, and I thought,

514
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Speaker 1: where is that necklace? So I put that bad boy

515
00:26:12,800 --> 00:26:14,720
Speaker 1: on it. Now I'm feeling like a little bit light,

516
00:26:14,800 --> 00:26:18,280
Speaker 1: like this guy is coming to fruition with me, and

517
00:26:18,320 --> 00:26:19,879
Speaker 1: I go and I read this thing and he laughs

518
00:26:19,920 --> 00:26:24,000
Speaker 1: out loud and I end up getting the part. Long

519
00:26:24,040 --> 00:26:27,800
Speaker 1: story short, is the great thing about a director like

520
00:26:27,880 --> 00:26:31,720
Speaker 1: Ridley Scott is the fact that, man, if you get

521
00:26:31,760 --> 00:26:34,919
Speaker 1: someone who just as you're champion, you want to do

522
00:26:35,040 --> 00:26:37,840
Speaker 1: anything for him. My very first see in that movie,

523
00:26:38,000 --> 00:26:39,720
Speaker 1: I'm leaving the house. I got the new shoes on

524
00:26:39,800 --> 00:26:41,960
Speaker 1: with the like that thing. There's nobody. I go out

525
00:26:42,000 --> 00:26:44,240
Speaker 1: in the in these clothes like and it's slippery because

526
00:26:44,240 --> 00:26:46,920
Speaker 1: he got these two jamos, because talk about a visual artist.

527
00:26:47,080 --> 00:26:49,040
Speaker 1: He added these two guys and said, hey, you always

528
00:26:49,280 --> 00:26:51,399
Speaker 1: film was always working on her house. And I slip

529
00:26:51,480 --> 00:26:54,359
Speaker 1: and I fall right on my ass and I banged

530
00:26:54,400 --> 00:26:56,439
Speaker 1: my head on the cement maker and I get up.

531
00:26:56,520 --> 00:26:58,760
Speaker 1: The little guy on my shoulder said, keep going, just

532
00:26:58,840 --> 00:27:01,160
Speaker 1: keep going. I got up. I got in the car.

533
00:27:01,200 --> 00:27:03,159
Speaker 1: I ad lived like midday, yeah home. I watched out

534
00:27:03,200 --> 00:27:04,760
Speaker 1: of three o'clock that get in the car and like

535
00:27:05,600 --> 00:27:08,000
Speaker 1: pull out in my car. Had he left the one

536
00:27:08,080 --> 00:27:10,359
Speaker 1: so much? The number one put it on my license plate,

537
00:27:10,800 --> 00:27:14,439
Speaker 1: the one this is the visual guy, and he said, listen,

538
00:27:14,800 --> 00:27:17,240
Speaker 1: we could do that again, but that's in the movie.

539
00:27:17,440 --> 00:27:19,840
Speaker 1: Because that was it. It was it. It was a wonder.

540
00:27:19,920 --> 00:27:22,919
Speaker 1: It was really really funny. Anyway, when you get a

541
00:27:22,920 --> 00:27:25,320
Speaker 1: director of that champions you like that, you feel like

542
00:27:25,320 --> 00:27:31,320
Speaker 1: a million bucks. Segue over to Robert Redford, brilliant, great director,

543
00:27:31,440 --> 00:27:34,719
Speaker 1: wins like beats. Martinus Carcese out of the nineteen eighty

544
00:27:35,000 --> 00:27:38,560
Speaker 1: oscar with his movie and then beats out Raising Bull.

545
00:27:38,680 --> 00:27:43,320
Speaker 1: I mean, wow, but a beautiful beautifutiful both beautiful. I

546
00:27:43,320 --> 00:27:46,040
Speaker 1: mean Raging Bull was one of my favorite top three anyway.

547
00:27:46,080 --> 00:27:50,760
Speaker 1: But so he never talked to me. He did cast me.

548
00:27:50,960 --> 00:27:52,639
Speaker 1: I flew myself to New York. I was in l

549
00:27:52,680 --> 00:27:54,199
Speaker 1: A at the time, working on a pilot. But I

550
00:27:54,240 --> 00:27:55,720
Speaker 1: flew myself to New York. And I said, I gotta

551
00:27:55,720 --> 00:27:58,520
Speaker 1: get in front of him, and goes and on Bob's late.

552
00:27:58,880 --> 00:28:01,000
Speaker 1: Oh Bob was always later, early hours later. He just

553
00:28:01,040 --> 00:28:03,760
Speaker 1: you know, he just didn't. Time is different. And so

554
00:28:03,840 --> 00:28:07,080
Speaker 1: I go to the television car archives and I watched

555
00:28:07,119 --> 00:28:09,800
Speaker 1: this guy, this Jack Barry guy from Quitch Show, from

556
00:28:09,880 --> 00:28:12,239
Speaker 1: Quitch Show, and uh, I got him. I mean, I'm

557
00:28:12,240 --> 00:28:14,640
Speaker 1: not gonna mimic him, but I got that feel. Right

558
00:28:14,960 --> 00:28:17,240
Speaker 1: I come in. He sees it in my eyes. He goes, Chris, Bob,

559
00:28:17,320 --> 00:28:19,080
Speaker 1: good to see it. I'm just come in with me.

560
00:28:19,600 --> 00:28:22,000
Speaker 1: So I've already liked Slated. I've been there for you know,

561
00:28:22,040 --> 00:28:23,800
Speaker 1: two and a half hours. I Slater. Can I get

562
00:28:23,800 --> 00:28:25,960
Speaker 1: the slate thing out of the slatings? When you say

563
00:28:25,960 --> 00:28:29,160
Speaker 1: your name and what agents here with so can I slate? Yeah? Good,

564
00:28:29,280 --> 00:28:30,560
Speaker 1: So I'm thinking I'm going in that room. He goes,

565
00:28:30,600 --> 00:28:33,640
Speaker 1: no, No No, Chris comes on me because I've got a problem.

566
00:28:33,840 --> 00:28:35,720
Speaker 1: You are a Jack Barry. And I'm looking at the

567
00:28:35,760 --> 00:28:40,000
Speaker 1: casting director and I think Bonnie Term and she goes yeah,

568
00:28:40,400 --> 00:28:42,400
Speaker 1: and I went, oh my god. So he says he

569
00:28:42,520 --> 00:28:45,920
Speaker 1: talked to me twenty five minutes about life, about choices,

570
00:28:46,000 --> 00:28:47,719
Speaker 1: about where I've been, where, how I grew up, all

571
00:28:47,840 --> 00:28:51,880
Speaker 1: kind of stuff. Not unlike you, Michael. Anyway. What the

572
00:28:51,960 --> 00:28:54,960
Speaker 1: funny thing is that he never talked to me on

573
00:28:55,040 --> 00:28:58,640
Speaker 1: the set. All he worked with was to tourro and

574
00:29:00,480 --> 00:29:03,520
Speaker 1: Ray Finds and I thought wow, and he noticed that,

575
00:29:04,400 --> 00:29:05,920
Speaker 1: and so they were doing a lighting shetup and he

576
00:29:06,040 --> 00:29:08,160
Speaker 1: came over. He said, Chris, you're doing right, you do

577
00:29:08,320 --> 00:29:10,080
Speaker 1: that's just that's they're just perfect or anything like that.

578
00:29:10,320 --> 00:29:11,720
Speaker 1: That ever to the story, and he went into a

579
00:29:11,800 --> 00:29:15,800
Speaker 1: twenty five minute monologue that just made me think, man,

580
00:29:16,360 --> 00:29:19,240
Speaker 1: you're putt in time in for me, because you could

581
00:29:19,240 --> 00:29:20,640
Speaker 1: feel that I was feeling a little left out. I

582
00:29:20,640 --> 00:29:22,760
Speaker 1: would everybody step off. But he's really getting really intense

583
00:29:22,840 --> 00:29:25,479
Speaker 1: with Rafe and really intense with John and who were

584
00:29:25,520 --> 00:29:27,880
Speaker 1: both brilliant in that film, and he just recognized that

585
00:29:27,880 --> 00:29:30,880
Speaker 1: and I thought, wow, I just that's when I direct.

586
00:29:30,960 --> 00:29:33,040
Speaker 1: I'm gonna I'm gonna keep this moment in my head.

587
00:29:33,360 --> 00:29:38,240
Speaker 1: It's brilliant and Darren Aronofsky completely different. I Mary renewed Godlover,

588
00:29:38,400 --> 00:29:40,800
Speaker 1: She's cast me a few times. I go and I auditioned,

589
00:29:40,840 --> 00:29:43,240
Speaker 1: and he later did I make you auditioned for that thing?

590
00:29:43,480 --> 00:29:46,200
Speaker 1: Because he said, you know you were great. Anyway, I

591
00:29:46,280 --> 00:29:48,240
Speaker 1: go to New York. He lives on the you know West.

592
00:29:48,400 --> 00:29:51,760
Speaker 1: He liven't Hell's Kitchen. Just Chris going over and we'll

593
00:29:51,800 --> 00:29:52,840
Speaker 1: go up on the roof. So I go up on

594
00:29:52,840 --> 00:29:54,000
Speaker 1: the roof and I started at limb. He's got a

595
00:29:54,000 --> 00:29:56,280
Speaker 1: little camera and he starts making this whole thing up.

596
00:29:56,360 --> 00:30:01,360
Speaker 1: You know, you're I was like channeling Tony Robbins. So anyway,

597
00:30:01,800 --> 00:30:05,720
Speaker 1: completely different, Uh, totally out there. He said, we're gonna

598
00:30:05,760 --> 00:30:07,280
Speaker 1: walk the streets right now. After I did this whole

599
00:30:07,280 --> 00:30:09,080
Speaker 1: ad lib on his roof. Walked the streets and I

600
00:30:09,120 --> 00:30:11,360
Speaker 1: would stop people and go, have you changed your life?

601
00:30:11,360 --> 00:30:13,080
Speaker 1: And you know about the three things that could change

602
00:30:13,120 --> 00:30:15,120
Speaker 1: your life? And it was amazing. Some people go, I

603
00:30:15,200 --> 00:30:16,600
Speaker 1: kind of know who he is so they would stop

604
00:30:16,680 --> 00:30:18,720
Speaker 1: and talk and he used all that stuff in the

605
00:30:18,840 --> 00:30:21,360
Speaker 1: video about the whole thing. It was just amazing and

606
00:30:21,520 --> 00:30:23,600
Speaker 1: I I, you know, Matthew le Batique, who shot it,

607
00:30:23,760 --> 00:30:27,360
Speaker 1: was a complete genius, and I had seen Pie up

608
00:30:27,400 --> 00:30:29,080
Speaker 1: at Sundance, so I knew who he was and it

609
00:30:29,200 --> 00:30:31,760
Speaker 1: was just that was a roller coaster and working with

610
00:30:31,960 --> 00:30:35,160
Speaker 1: I mean, those great actors. What beautiful movie that is

611
00:30:35,480 --> 00:30:41,080
Speaker 1: Dark Party of three, Dark, Oh my god, that everyone

612
00:30:41,160 --> 00:30:44,320
Speaker 1: who went through that hell of drug addiction was the

613
00:30:44,320 --> 00:30:47,600
Speaker 1: biggest anti drug movie I think ever made. Unbelievable. I

614
00:30:47,760 --> 00:30:52,000
Speaker 1: love that film. Were you aware in the script or

615
00:30:52,120 --> 00:30:54,880
Speaker 1: on set? Obviously your stuff was kind of on its

616
00:30:54,920 --> 00:30:59,240
Speaker 1: own how visually unique it would be, because I would imagine,

617
00:30:59,840 --> 00:31:01,360
Speaker 1: you know, I mean there was like all these crazy

618
00:31:01,440 --> 00:31:02,880
Speaker 1: things with the eye and the show and that this.

619
00:31:03,240 --> 00:31:06,400
Speaker 1: Were you aware how visually you know, like stimulating that

620
00:31:06,480 --> 00:31:08,000
Speaker 1: film would be or did you? Did you when you

621
00:31:08,080 --> 00:31:10,440
Speaker 1: saw it? Were you? Like? The first time I saw

622
00:31:10,480 --> 00:31:13,040
Speaker 1: it was at the midnight screening, and Ken the first

623
00:31:13,240 --> 00:31:14,600
Speaker 1: time had been there with the movie. I've been there

624
00:31:14,600 --> 00:31:16,600
Speaker 1: earlier with other things and went to all the parties

625
00:31:16,640 --> 00:31:18,560
Speaker 1: like you do, but man, I was there for the

626
00:31:18,800 --> 00:31:21,160
Speaker 1: twelve o'clock screening. I was like, and I looked over

627
00:31:21,200 --> 00:31:23,240
Speaker 1: he was sitting two seats down and went, holy God,

628
00:31:23,400 --> 00:31:26,400
Speaker 1: really goes. Oh you haven't seen it yet, keep on

629
00:31:26,600 --> 00:31:29,680
Speaker 1: and it was just wow, the big standing ovation things

630
00:31:29,760 --> 00:31:33,240
Speaker 1: like that. He said it was the most edit's in

631
00:31:33,280 --> 00:31:37,840
Speaker 1: a movie ever with all of that stuff, like with

632
00:31:37,960 --> 00:31:39,760
Speaker 1: the eyes and stuff. Oh my god, it was insane.

633
00:31:39,920 --> 00:31:43,080
Speaker 1: He just he just is a different level of an

634
00:31:43,120 --> 00:31:46,800
Speaker 1: autour and uh and his latest one, The Whale, Jesus,

635
00:31:46,840 --> 00:31:49,239
Speaker 1: what a rip your heart out story that is. I mean,

636
00:31:49,560 --> 00:31:52,160
Speaker 1: he's just he can he can do anything. He different level.

637
00:31:54,040 --> 00:31:56,800
Speaker 1: But those three of my my favorite experiences as an actor.

638
00:31:57,160 --> 00:31:59,080
Speaker 1: And to go back to my original question, like in

639
00:31:59,240 --> 00:32:03,120
Speaker 1: terms of you know, director fairy Dust or director Magic

640
00:32:03,240 --> 00:32:06,280
Speaker 1: Touch or you know, for me, I would always say,

641
00:32:06,320 --> 00:32:08,720
Speaker 1: it's what you said about really, Scott, it's the support.

642
00:32:09,000 --> 00:32:11,040
Speaker 1: It's not so much you know, it could be do

643
00:32:11,120 --> 00:32:13,600
Speaker 1: it faster, do it slower, but it's making you feel

644
00:32:13,720 --> 00:32:18,440
Speaker 1: comfortable and making you feel a part of and giving

645
00:32:18,480 --> 00:32:22,440
Speaker 1: you that just that confidence exactly, which is night and day.

646
00:32:22,920 --> 00:32:24,360
Speaker 1: Some guys can get up and get you that fashion.

647
00:32:24,600 --> 00:32:26,600
Speaker 1: It's like, oh okay, that's fine, I can do it fast.

648
00:32:26,640 --> 00:32:28,320
Speaker 1: I can do. I can do anywhere you want. But

649
00:32:28,440 --> 00:32:30,280
Speaker 1: when they go get you're killing it. You know, just

650
00:32:30,440 --> 00:32:32,400
Speaker 1: you know, just just keep on doing what you're doing,

651
00:32:32,600 --> 00:32:34,320
Speaker 1: and you do a couple more takes. It was so

652
00:32:34,440 --> 00:32:36,880
Speaker 1: fun working with Harvey Kitel because what did you work

653
00:32:36,920 --> 00:32:39,280
Speaker 1: with him on? It was the one Luis and he

654
00:32:39,440 --> 00:32:41,719
Speaker 1: was the cop right and so this whole thing. There

655
00:32:41,800 --> 00:32:43,360
Speaker 1: was a pizza on the ground and I was like,

656
00:32:44,360 --> 00:32:46,160
Speaker 1: actually the first time every day there's a fly there

657
00:32:46,800 --> 00:32:48,360
Speaker 1: that with the fly there were though fly there, but

658
00:32:48,440 --> 00:32:50,640
Speaker 1: the fly in later and went the thing for love.

659
00:32:50,720 --> 00:32:52,680
Speaker 1: My hand dropped my phone like that. And then I'm

660
00:32:52,680 --> 00:32:56,920
Speaker 1: getting the information from the detective Harvey Tell and he goes, yes,

661
00:32:56,960 --> 00:33:00,760
Speaker 1: your your wife is like showber picts like what what

662
00:33:02,360 --> 00:33:05,160
Speaker 1: it was just like? And he had to say, sir,

663
00:33:05,240 --> 00:33:07,840
Speaker 1: you're stepping in your pizza. He couldn't say it's straight.

664
00:33:08,480 --> 00:33:10,640
Speaker 1: They just basically used what he had because he kept

665
00:33:10,680 --> 00:33:13,360
Speaker 1: it kept laughing the whole time. And then they was

666
00:33:13,360 --> 00:33:16,600
Speaker 1: sitting outside a little later. Everywhere you in love with them, Well,

667
00:33:16,640 --> 00:33:18,080
Speaker 1: I am about as much as you can be with

668
00:33:18,160 --> 00:33:22,280
Speaker 1: a nutcase like that. Come on, great lines, Kelly Corey.

669
00:33:22,360 --> 00:33:24,360
Speaker 1: I love her to death. I mean what we just

670
00:33:24,560 --> 00:33:26,120
Speaker 1: ran with it. It was so much fun. And that

671
00:33:26,480 --> 00:33:28,120
Speaker 1: kid Pitt, what is it? I don't know what. I

672
00:33:28,160 --> 00:33:32,440
Speaker 1: don't know what happened to me. He had promised that

673
00:33:32,520 --> 00:33:34,640
Speaker 1: is what he had. That was about it, but I

674
00:33:34,760 --> 00:33:37,040
Speaker 1: never saw him again. Pit of fools really when it

675
00:33:37,120 --> 00:33:40,320
Speaker 1: turned out something about abs. I mean, funk I have

676
00:33:40,400 --> 00:33:45,760
Speaker 1: an ab I got. I got just like to as

677
00:33:46,400 --> 00:33:49,120
Speaker 1: that's the problem. But I heard that you can do

678
00:33:49,240 --> 00:33:53,200
Speaker 1: a plank for six minutes. That's fact. Chris, all right,

679
00:33:53,240 --> 00:33:56,320
Speaker 1: now that's badass. I guess gotta say. I tried three,

680
00:33:56,920 --> 00:34:00,200
Speaker 1: and it's you could get to get to six. I

681
00:34:00,240 --> 00:34:03,240
Speaker 1: can't get the six. Could do it right here, isn't it? Yeah?

682
00:34:03,440 --> 00:34:06,040
Speaker 1: Just go to three, three thirty. Then you'll get to

683
00:34:06,120 --> 00:34:08,600
Speaker 1: four and then' like I got this. Wow, when you

684
00:34:08,680 --> 00:34:10,360
Speaker 1: get to five, you'll go I could get to sixes.

685
00:34:10,640 --> 00:34:13,040
Speaker 1: And then some guy just broke the records like eight

686
00:34:13,080 --> 00:34:14,920
Speaker 1: hours and forty five. I was like, what don't you

687
00:34:15,000 --> 00:34:17,800
Speaker 1: have something? That young man? He knows it was early sixties,

688
00:34:17,840 --> 00:34:20,600
Speaker 1: so don't you have something to do? Like? I just went,

689
00:34:20,640 --> 00:34:22,880
Speaker 1: I'm gonna hanging out in there doing planks. But I

690
00:34:22,960 --> 00:34:25,680
Speaker 1: could sit on the couch freight. I was a forty

691
00:34:25,760 --> 00:34:27,320
Speaker 1: eight minutes, like it would be hard for me to

692
00:34:27,400 --> 00:34:31,919
Speaker 1: do like let alone planking. Yeah, that's that's a shame,

693
00:34:32,000 --> 00:34:34,160
Speaker 1: but good for him. I want to play a game

694
00:34:34,200 --> 00:34:39,520
Speaker 1: of what makes them great? Okay, cool actors who you've

695
00:34:39,560 --> 00:34:41,759
Speaker 1: worked with, and I want you to tell me what

696
00:34:42,040 --> 00:34:47,880
Speaker 1: makes them great. One of my favorites, John Tatuo. What

697
00:34:48,200 --> 00:34:50,759
Speaker 1: makes him great? You worked with him on Quiz Show?

698
00:34:52,120 --> 00:34:55,839
Speaker 1: Break him down as an actor? The real deal? All

699
00:34:55,920 --> 00:34:59,160
Speaker 1: I can say the man became that character in the

700
00:34:59,239 --> 00:35:01,640
Speaker 1: Inquis show. But he's so good in his current stuff

701
00:35:01,719 --> 00:35:06,719
Speaker 1: right now. I watched this thing, uh sal the Severances.

702
00:35:06,800 --> 00:35:10,239
Speaker 1: He's unbelievable. I love Affair with Christopher Walking. It's it

703
00:35:10,480 --> 00:35:13,960
Speaker 1: ripped your heart out. It's so beautifully delicately done. So

704
00:35:14,080 --> 00:35:16,880
Speaker 1: he's all about like flick notes. He says, he has

705
00:35:16,920 --> 00:35:20,000
Speaker 1: all these ticks and things that are really really interesting.

706
00:35:20,360 --> 00:35:23,279
Speaker 1: But he embodied that that role and Quiz Show, and

707
00:35:23,400 --> 00:35:26,320
Speaker 1: he's so great and everything he does because he's just

708
00:35:26,480 --> 00:35:28,880
Speaker 1: a little bit. He's a very He's a thinking actor.

709
00:35:28,920 --> 00:35:30,920
Speaker 1: That's what he is, and and it makes all the

710
00:35:30,960 --> 00:35:33,839
Speaker 1: difference in the world. He's not just regurgitating lines. He's

711
00:35:33,960 --> 00:35:37,120
Speaker 1: living them, and I just nothing but respect. It's called

712
00:35:37,280 --> 00:35:41,359
Speaker 1: The Night The Night Of the Night Of. That really

713
00:35:41,400 --> 00:35:43,000
Speaker 1: cool and and it was a pity they didn't do

714
00:35:43,080 --> 00:35:45,120
Speaker 1: more of them. But boy talked about he sits there

715
00:35:45,160 --> 00:35:46,320
Speaker 1: the whole time, then he has to get up and

716
00:35:46,320 --> 00:35:50,800
Speaker 1: give this ridiculous closing argument and you go, oh wow,

717
00:35:51,840 --> 00:35:56,840
Speaker 1: he's wow stuff. So he really is. He's so unique,

718
00:35:58,000 --> 00:36:01,600
Speaker 1: and he's like, you know, the way he develops characters

719
00:36:01,680 --> 00:36:04,800
Speaker 1: and what I mean, he talked about methods and and

720
00:36:04,960 --> 00:36:07,520
Speaker 1: still had learned, you know, and and none men. He

721
00:36:07,760 --> 00:36:10,520
Speaker 1: seems to have like got the whole thing down. Yeah,

722
00:36:10,800 --> 00:36:13,759
Speaker 1: Like he's got the whole thing and he's able to

723
00:36:13,840 --> 00:36:16,839
Speaker 1: do it. Yeah. He's a consummate artist and director, good

724
00:36:16,920 --> 00:36:19,040
Speaker 1: director and just one of those guys that have been

725
00:36:19,040 --> 00:36:22,000
Speaker 1: you know, you guys from New York. I'm a York Elshall,

726
00:36:22,040 --> 00:36:23,960
Speaker 1: but I bloomed where I was planning it out here,

727
00:36:24,320 --> 00:36:25,919
Speaker 1: and I miss If I could do it over again,

728
00:36:26,200 --> 00:36:27,680
Speaker 1: I would have stayed and try to make my way

729
00:36:27,719 --> 00:36:29,960
Speaker 1: in New York, although it's a very tough town as

730
00:36:30,000 --> 00:36:32,719
Speaker 1: you all know, but in California. But what I love

731
00:36:32,760 --> 00:36:34,759
Speaker 1: about the Honey's not gonna work. You're not gonna get

732
00:36:34,800 --> 00:36:37,799
Speaker 1: the part, so well, we'll talk next time out here. Oh,

733
00:36:38,000 --> 00:36:40,640
Speaker 1: don't don't take another job. You're on our list, your

734
00:36:40,719 --> 00:36:42,959
Speaker 1: top three. I think it's gonna be He's a short

735
00:36:43,000 --> 00:36:44,719
Speaker 1: list is a short list, but we got you, so

736
00:36:44,920 --> 00:36:47,680
Speaker 1: don't do anything and you die of enthusiasm, you know,

737
00:36:47,840 --> 00:36:51,880
Speaker 1: like it really didn't get it when you're agents and manages.

738
00:36:51,920 --> 00:36:54,839
Speaker 1: How you're on a shortlist is your temptations, like who

739
00:36:54,880 --> 00:36:56,759
Speaker 1: the funk else is on the shortlist? And for for

740
00:36:56,880 --> 00:37:00,040
Speaker 1: people like so where we're up for a part? A

741
00:37:00,120 --> 00:37:02,440
Speaker 1: lot of times we'll get told when we're getting close

742
00:37:02,719 --> 00:37:04,560
Speaker 1: or not. They might just say you're on the short

743
00:37:04,600 --> 00:37:06,359
Speaker 1: list just to make you feel good, so you don't

744
00:37:06,400 --> 00:37:10,719
Speaker 1: jump off a bridge. My temptationous, who the funk else

745
00:37:10,840 --> 00:37:13,520
Speaker 1: is on the list? Who are they? Who the fund is?

746
00:37:13,760 --> 00:37:17,160
Speaker 1: Who else is on this fucking short list? Because also

747
00:37:17,200 --> 00:37:19,680
Speaker 1: I want to know, like number one, can I find

748
00:37:19,760 --> 00:37:21,759
Speaker 1: them and like, you know, beat them up? And number

749
00:37:21,800 --> 00:37:23,799
Speaker 1: two like I'm like just like to kind of take

750
00:37:23,840 --> 00:37:26,960
Speaker 1: you out of the unknown, because one of the hardest

751
00:37:27,000 --> 00:37:29,719
Speaker 1: things for being an actor is the unknown. When you're

752
00:37:29,719 --> 00:37:31,800
Speaker 1: gonna work next true who you lost the job to?

753
00:37:32,080 --> 00:37:34,399
Speaker 1: Who's on the short list? That's the thing that drives

754
00:37:34,480 --> 00:37:36,680
Speaker 1: me craziest. I used to be that way, Michael. I

755
00:37:36,800 --> 00:37:39,279
Speaker 1: used to like be comparing and that's uh, what's what's

756
00:37:39,320 --> 00:37:44,240
Speaker 1: the take? Comparison is the thief of thief have actors?

757
00:37:44,520 --> 00:37:48,239
Speaker 1: That's the Shakespeare said, the thief of time or something

758
00:37:48,320 --> 00:37:50,760
Speaker 1: like that. Anyway, you should never do that. What happened

759
00:37:50,840 --> 00:37:52,440
Speaker 1: back in the day and you were around these days?

760
00:37:52,440 --> 00:37:54,960
Speaker 1: Who's the pilot seasons? I'm so glad that ship gone away.

761
00:37:55,239 --> 00:37:57,600
Speaker 1: That was let ridiculous. Come in. There's fifteen guys just

762
00:37:57,760 --> 00:38:00,279
Speaker 1: like you, or very much the same like you, sitting

763
00:38:00,280 --> 00:38:02,560
Speaker 1: out in the hallway and you're going coming in. So

764
00:38:03,040 --> 00:38:05,040
Speaker 1: you're going then you just you know, you make it

765
00:38:05,080 --> 00:38:07,759
Speaker 1: about that moment to act that day there was it

766
00:38:07,920 --> 00:38:11,320
Speaker 1: was it you do that stuff. But I was about

767
00:38:11,360 --> 00:38:14,239
Speaker 1: to do a play and then my then manager said no, no,

768
00:38:14,360 --> 00:38:16,879
Speaker 1: don't do a play. No, you're you. You were second

769
00:38:16,880 --> 00:38:19,160
Speaker 1: place Charlie like four times last season. I went, yeah,

770
00:38:19,200 --> 00:38:20,839
Speaker 1: they know who I am. It's all good. I'm doing

771
00:38:20,880 --> 00:38:23,080
Speaker 1: this play. I go and do this play. It's when

772
00:38:23,120 --> 00:38:25,880
Speaker 1: you're coming back. Red Rodder playing a most incredible character

773
00:38:26,000 --> 00:38:28,759
Speaker 1: called Teddy, written by the great Mark met Off and

774
00:38:28,840 --> 00:38:31,840
Speaker 1: I do it in Santa Fe, New Mexico. I'm so

775
00:38:31,960 --> 00:38:34,400
Speaker 1: glad I did it. I met my wife, were together

776
00:38:34,560 --> 00:38:37,560
Speaker 1: thirty years. It was a game changer. I came back

777
00:38:37,600 --> 00:38:39,480
Speaker 1: in March and I just got a seriously, so it

778
00:38:39,640 --> 00:38:41,920
Speaker 1: was like I made the right call. But I took

779
00:38:42,000 --> 00:38:44,920
Speaker 1: some cohna's to say, no, you understand, they know who

780
00:38:44,960 --> 00:38:46,920
Speaker 1: I am. I lost out to that guy because he

781
00:38:47,000 --> 00:38:48,880
Speaker 1: said he was in a commercial. That guy he's like,

782
00:38:49,239 --> 00:38:51,279
Speaker 1: was big because he did that movie. It's okay, I

783
00:38:51,360 --> 00:38:55,440
Speaker 1: get it. But there's enough out there, especially now with streaming.

784
00:38:55,960 --> 00:38:58,640
Speaker 1: I mean the content that's just that's coming in waves.

785
00:38:59,160 --> 00:39:00,640
Speaker 1: So there's a lot of how to work out there.

786
00:39:00,640 --> 00:39:02,240
Speaker 1: And I have a daughter who's starting out in this business.

787
00:39:02,280 --> 00:39:04,400
Speaker 1: She's gonna be an act. Believe me, I would have

788
00:39:04,400 --> 00:39:07,000
Speaker 1: dissuaded her. I saw that she didn't have any gifts

789
00:39:07,480 --> 00:39:10,480
Speaker 1: and she's got skills. So it's a beautiful thing. Man.

790
00:39:27,239 --> 00:39:31,880
Speaker 1: Next on what makes them great? What makes finds great?

791
00:39:32,600 --> 00:39:35,719
Speaker 1: She's a camelion. He can do literally anything. I just

792
00:39:35,760 --> 00:39:37,759
Speaker 1: saw him in New York. He was doing the play

793
00:39:37,880 --> 00:39:40,000
Speaker 1: where the guy who was building all the roads in

794
00:39:40,080 --> 00:39:42,160
Speaker 1: New York City and out to Long Island and he

795
00:39:42,239 --> 00:39:45,040
Speaker 1: didn't like public transportation, so what he did was he

796
00:39:45,200 --> 00:39:47,920
Speaker 1: lowered him so no busses could go through. How about that?

797
00:39:48,640 --> 00:39:53,040
Speaker 1: And anyway, just brilliant, constantly working a just one of

798
00:39:53,080 --> 00:39:57,240
Speaker 1: those minimalists actors too. I'm a little bit more animated myself.

799
00:39:57,400 --> 00:40:00,279
Speaker 1: You could probably be charged with that one too. Um.

800
00:40:00,600 --> 00:40:02,800
Speaker 1: But he's just it's all right here, it's all you

801
00:40:02,880 --> 00:40:05,640
Speaker 1: know in his mind, and it's just it comes out

802
00:40:05,920 --> 00:40:08,719
Speaker 1: so fun. Yes, he could do wacky comedies too. At

803
00:40:08,760 --> 00:40:12,719
Speaker 1: the same time he is, uh, he's royalty and he'll

804
00:40:12,800 --> 00:40:15,160
Speaker 1: he'll probably end up, you know, getting all kinds of

805
00:40:15,360 --> 00:40:16,920
Speaker 1: you know, serves and all that kind of stuff in

806
00:40:17,000 --> 00:40:19,360
Speaker 1: his life. He's just he's a working machine too. He

807
00:40:19,520 --> 00:40:21,840
Speaker 1: loves to act. That's only does. He doesn't have family,

808
00:40:22,000 --> 00:40:26,680
Speaker 1: just basically acts, which is terrific. Yeah. Um, Kathy Bates,

809
00:40:27,320 --> 00:40:31,000
Speaker 1: he worked with y. I got a story about her.

810
00:40:31,040 --> 00:40:33,200
Speaker 1: I was blessed to work with her in that series.

811
00:40:33,480 --> 00:40:36,520
Speaker 1: Um wow. David E. Kelly was writing it and it

812
00:40:36,640 --> 00:40:39,040
Speaker 1: was called Harry's Law. I came in as a guest star.

813
00:40:39,160 --> 00:40:41,800
Speaker 1: They made me a regular because man, I just I

814
00:40:41,960 --> 00:40:45,120
Speaker 1: just thought, all you have to do is react, You

815
00:40:45,200 --> 00:40:48,160
Speaker 1: don't act with Kathy, you react. So we're doing this

816
00:40:48,239 --> 00:40:50,680
Speaker 1: one scene and it's a quick story doing this one

817
00:40:50,760 --> 00:40:54,319
Speaker 1: scene and she's got this really rip your heart out thing,

818
00:40:54,440 --> 00:40:57,000
Speaker 1: and I though, God, that was that was incredible, you know,

819
00:40:57,239 --> 00:40:59,279
Speaker 1: shooting on her. It's just she's done it three times

820
00:40:59,320 --> 00:41:03,719
Speaker 1: for guy, do one more? I said, I mean, wow,

821
00:41:04,480 --> 00:41:07,840
Speaker 1: Im sure, I mean, Chris, I'm not keeping you might no, no, no, no,

822
00:41:08,719 --> 00:41:11,200
Speaker 1: the director said, friend, just one more. The hair was

823
00:41:11,239 --> 00:41:12,719
Speaker 1: standing up in the back of my neck. I mean,

824
00:41:12,880 --> 00:41:17,640
Speaker 1: how can you take it from great to brilliance? That's

825
00:41:17,640 --> 00:41:19,640
Speaker 1: what she can do. She can go to that extra

826
00:41:19,800 --> 00:41:22,520
Speaker 1: step and still set down and have a beer with you.

827
00:41:22,600 --> 00:41:24,120
Speaker 1: And she's one of the guys and just one of

828
00:41:24,200 --> 00:41:27,399
Speaker 1: the great chicks. Um. We were shooting at Warner Brothers.

829
00:41:27,480 --> 00:41:30,560
Speaker 1: We come across that to that smoke house, a classical

830
00:41:30,840 --> 00:41:33,160
Speaker 1: restaurant that has the many movies have been shot in

831
00:41:33,239 --> 00:41:36,440
Speaker 1: there and just have just gone on after are getting

832
00:41:36,480 --> 00:41:39,160
Speaker 1: through the week and just have a great time. One

833
00:41:39,200 --> 00:41:42,080
Speaker 1: of the great, great, great actors that have worked with

834
00:41:42,200 --> 00:41:45,399
Speaker 1: this is Cathy Bates. Love that. I love that. Give

835
00:41:45,440 --> 00:41:50,200
Speaker 1: me one more actor who you worked with that while

836
00:41:50,320 --> 00:41:52,800
Speaker 1: you were with them in a scene, you kind of

837
00:41:52,840 --> 00:41:54,960
Speaker 1: were like oh ship because they were so good. It

838
00:41:55,000 --> 00:41:57,880
Speaker 1: could have been a take or a moment throughout your

839
00:41:57,920 --> 00:42:00,279
Speaker 1: career where they just kind of like I've had a

840
00:42:00,320 --> 00:42:03,439
Speaker 1: few moments where I'm just like, you know where you're

841
00:42:03,520 --> 00:42:05,839
Speaker 1: in it, but you're kind of like a fuck, They're

842
00:42:06,200 --> 00:42:07,680
Speaker 1: like you know where you like because I'm a fan

843
00:42:07,800 --> 00:42:09,680
Speaker 1: and I can tell you're a fan. Is there a

844
00:42:09,800 --> 00:42:11,920
Speaker 1: moment like or or an actor that another one who

845
00:42:12,000 --> 00:42:14,680
Speaker 1: impressed you that you when you were out there with them.

846
00:42:15,080 --> 00:42:16,960
Speaker 1: There's been a few. But I mentioned Harvey too. I

847
00:42:17,000 --> 00:42:20,440
Speaker 1: didn't mention the Harvey. I mean he was harveyd Kite

848
00:42:20,480 --> 00:42:22,440
Speaker 1: tell what is a great guy too, and just I

849
00:42:22,520 --> 00:42:26,759
Speaker 1: mean it's an interesting thing. But I'm thinking, Um, series work,

850
00:42:26,800 --> 00:42:28,560
Speaker 1: you work with them all the time, and and sometimes

851
00:42:28,600 --> 00:42:30,520
Speaker 1: in movies you don't get to work with everybody. It's

852
00:42:30,560 --> 00:42:32,480
Speaker 1: like we didn't get a chance to work the boy

853
00:42:32,560 --> 00:42:34,080
Speaker 1: what we get it and then and then you know

854
00:42:34,160 --> 00:42:36,280
Speaker 1: you lose track with him. You can come back together.

855
00:42:36,800 --> 00:42:39,800
Speaker 1: But I remember a moment that I was working with

856
00:42:40,640 --> 00:42:45,280
Speaker 1: this woman who was not Oscar nominated, just fantastic actor,

857
00:42:45,960 --> 00:42:51,799
Speaker 1: and um, she came at me on the third take

858
00:42:51,920 --> 00:42:55,480
Speaker 1: and I had to go what I had to really

859
00:42:55,600 --> 00:42:59,319
Speaker 1: just kind of laser vision. Kathleen Quinlan is her name.

860
00:42:59,520 --> 00:43:02,600
Speaker 1: She's a very very talented actor, and she came at

861
00:43:02,640 --> 00:43:05,440
Speaker 1: me with this completely different of left field, but it

862
00:43:05,640 --> 00:43:08,560
Speaker 1: fed the scene so much that I never forgot it.

863
00:43:08,680 --> 00:43:11,719
Speaker 1: I thought, well, I'm gonna have to steal that from you,

864
00:43:11,800 --> 00:43:16,600
Speaker 1: because that was just brilliant. And she did it to

865
00:43:16,680 --> 00:43:19,680
Speaker 1: me a few times. She was a real, real r

866
00:43:19,880 --> 00:43:23,399
Speaker 1: and seer and in the moment actor, and that's fun.

867
00:43:23,480 --> 00:43:26,359
Speaker 1: That's when you just basically in that zone. And then

868
00:43:26,440 --> 00:43:27,920
Speaker 1: she would lift that zone. She'd probably been in the

869
00:43:28,000 --> 00:43:30,640
Speaker 1: zone more than any actor right now. So it's terrific.

870
00:43:30,680 --> 00:43:32,000
Speaker 1: But it's hard you get older as a woman. And

871
00:43:32,120 --> 00:43:35,359
Speaker 1: then they stopped calling you know, it's it's it is tough.

872
00:43:35,480 --> 00:43:40,120
Speaker 1: Ages him sucks, It sucks across the board. Um my, last,

873
00:43:40,480 --> 00:43:44,719
Speaker 1: what makes them great? Adam Sandler? What makes Adam Sandler great?

874
00:43:45,040 --> 00:43:48,040
Speaker 1: He's smart? You don't think he's smart as he plays

875
00:43:48,040 --> 00:43:51,279
Speaker 1: all these dufaces, but the man is smart. Oh yeah,

876
00:43:51,400 --> 00:43:54,480
Speaker 1: Oh he's got it down. So uh. I was about

877
00:43:54,560 --> 00:43:56,239
Speaker 1: to turn down that movie and I said, now what

878
00:43:56,239 --> 00:43:57,799
Speaker 1: am I doing? I just want this golf to him

879
00:43:57,800 --> 00:43:59,480
Speaker 1: and I gotta I gotta sit down. With Adam and

880
00:43:59,520 --> 00:44:02,160
Speaker 1: maybe that roles still available. And I went and said,

881
00:44:02,520 --> 00:44:04,320
Speaker 1: twenty five minutes, I left my ass off, and I

882
00:44:04,360 --> 00:44:07,759
Speaker 1: thought this guy just he just got it. And he

883
00:44:07,920 --> 00:44:11,040
Speaker 1: was so funny and so like self effacing and so

884
00:44:11,280 --> 00:44:13,319
Speaker 1: like a you know, I'm the I'm the underdog kind

885
00:44:13,360 --> 00:44:15,160
Speaker 1: of a thing. And you see, this is a big

886
00:44:15,320 --> 00:44:17,759
Speaker 1: depth to him. There's a lot of depth. And I'm

887
00:44:18,040 --> 00:44:19,640
Speaker 1: to be honest with you, I'm I'm a little shocked

888
00:44:19,680 --> 00:44:22,279
Speaker 1: he didn't get a nomination before this, this Hustle movie.

889
00:44:22,800 --> 00:44:25,600
Speaker 1: He was so good. He's been been great lot. I've

890
00:44:25,600 --> 00:44:27,040
Speaker 1: been great for a lot of things. Yeah, but the

891
00:44:27,239 --> 00:44:29,239
Speaker 1: ones he makes or what they are and then they

892
00:44:29,280 --> 00:44:31,360
Speaker 1: go through the roof at Netflix. But he was so

893
00:44:31,440 --> 00:44:33,239
Speaker 1: great and he because it's right down his alley and

894
00:44:33,280 --> 00:44:36,120
Speaker 1: he just loved doing it. And I I gotta say,

895
00:44:36,160 --> 00:44:40,040
Speaker 1: what makes him great is, uh, he he'll try anything.

896
00:44:40,760 --> 00:44:42,920
Speaker 1: He'll try anything, and and it may not work, but

897
00:44:43,239 --> 00:44:45,600
Speaker 1: he's gonna embrace the hell out of it and try

898
00:44:45,640 --> 00:44:47,480
Speaker 1: to make it work. And there's been you know, it's

899
00:44:47,680 --> 00:44:50,320
Speaker 1: where it didn't work. But boy, when he when he

900
00:44:50,400 --> 00:44:52,520
Speaker 1: goes there and makes it work, it's kind of like

901
00:44:52,600 --> 00:44:56,040
Speaker 1: nobody else can do what he does. So just take

902
00:44:56,120 --> 00:44:58,160
Speaker 1: my hat off to him. I'm I'm a fan. I

903
00:44:58,239 --> 00:45:00,560
Speaker 1: wish I would work with him more, but that's amount

904
00:45:00,560 --> 00:45:04,480
Speaker 1: of his posse. The legend of Shooter McGavin, happy gilmore.

905
00:45:06,040 --> 00:45:11,600
Speaker 1: So did you audition to play Shooter McGavin and important question?

906
00:45:11,920 --> 00:45:15,120
Speaker 1: Did you audition to play Shooter McGavin? And in the

907
00:45:15,239 --> 00:45:17,560
Speaker 1: script do you remember did it just say shooter or

908
00:45:17,640 --> 00:45:23,160
Speaker 1: did he say Shooter McGavin. That's a really interesting question, Michael.

909
00:45:23,440 --> 00:45:25,400
Speaker 1: Here's the thing. No, I did not. They offered it

910
00:45:25,440 --> 00:45:26,880
Speaker 1: to me. I was up at that you know that

911
00:45:27,560 --> 00:45:30,800
Speaker 1: Adams Mark whatever they call in uh Vancouver where everybody

912
00:45:30,880 --> 00:45:33,600
Speaker 1: goes uh because the role the actor's day, and but

913
00:45:33,680 --> 00:45:37,040
Speaker 1: I had a place out of town. Anyway, Dennis Dugan

914
00:45:37,120 --> 00:45:39,120
Speaker 1: runs into MELI Chris mcdown, we've been looking for you.

915
00:45:39,480 --> 00:45:41,960
Speaker 1: You gotta play Shooter, you gotta play. You gotta look

916
00:45:41,960 --> 00:45:43,239
Speaker 1: at this. I take the thing and I was like,

917
00:45:43,320 --> 00:45:45,440
Speaker 1: it's really funny, it's good, but I haven't seen my

918
00:45:45,600 --> 00:45:49,520
Speaker 1: kids in three months, and so long story short, as

919
00:45:49,520 --> 00:45:51,640
Speaker 1: I turned it down and then I said, and it's

920
00:45:51,719 --> 00:45:53,400
Speaker 1: then it comes to because Chris, what it was gonna take?

921
00:45:53,400 --> 00:45:56,520
Speaker 1: I said, well, I gotta see I gotta meet Adam,

922
00:45:56,640 --> 00:45:59,040
Speaker 1: meet Adam having a great time, and he says, okay,

923
00:45:59,360 --> 00:46:01,800
Speaker 1: now he needs And I said, the only reason I

924
00:46:01,840 --> 00:46:03,320
Speaker 1: didn't turn it down was because I didn't see my

925
00:46:03,400 --> 00:46:05,000
Speaker 1: kids in three months. You want to bring my wife

926
00:46:05,040 --> 00:46:06,560
Speaker 1: and kids and give us a place to stay, I'm

927
00:46:06,560 --> 00:46:08,360
Speaker 1: then you're I'm your man. I'd love to do it.

928
00:46:08,640 --> 00:46:10,840
Speaker 1: So no, I did not audition. He came up and

929
00:46:10,920 --> 00:46:12,520
Speaker 1: he goes to the Bob Simon as the producer and

930
00:46:12,560 --> 00:46:14,960
Speaker 1: goes he Bob, we got him. But it took a

931
00:46:14,960 --> 00:46:16,920
Speaker 1: little something. What what did you? What did you do?

932
00:46:17,680 --> 00:46:19,719
Speaker 1: He just needed, you know, housing, and so we put

933
00:46:19,800 --> 00:46:21,359
Speaker 1: him out in one of the things by the river,

934
00:46:21,440 --> 00:46:23,320
Speaker 1: and it's gonna be great. So I didn't live with

935
00:46:23,360 --> 00:46:25,680
Speaker 1: everybody in that big hotel and you all that carousing stuff.

936
00:46:26,080 --> 00:46:28,840
Speaker 1: I was like my own thing, which was basically a

937
00:46:28,840 --> 00:46:31,520
Speaker 1: shooter with it's all about Shooter. It's only thinks about

938
00:46:31,560 --> 00:46:34,279
Speaker 1: as himself. So it was just a great joy to do.

939
00:46:34,800 --> 00:46:36,600
Speaker 1: We started add living a little bit. The first scene

940
00:46:36,640 --> 00:46:40,560
Speaker 1: I did was you're gonna beat me at golf, trouble appalty,

941
00:46:40,600 --> 00:46:45,640
Speaker 1: pieces of ship like you for breakfast. No, So I

942
00:46:45,719 --> 00:46:48,239
Speaker 1: add live the no, and they left it in and

943
00:46:48,360 --> 00:46:51,279
Speaker 1: I thought, that's freaking great. That's also that they left

944
00:46:51,320 --> 00:46:55,360
Speaker 1: it like fair, don't come back. Just the country club golfer.

945
00:46:56,600 --> 00:46:58,640
Speaker 1: It was so much fun, so much fun to do.

946
00:46:58,760 --> 00:47:00,560
Speaker 1: We laughed, Oh my god, that asked and that was

947
00:47:00,640 --> 00:47:03,000
Speaker 1: so good and and and Dennis Doging did a great

948
00:47:03,040 --> 00:47:05,040
Speaker 1: job too. You had a fucking ball of doing that

949
00:47:05,480 --> 00:47:08,160
Speaker 1: ball last they paid me if they golf, Michael, come on,

950
00:47:08,280 --> 00:47:10,880
Speaker 1: it was awesome. So you had been playing golf before

951
00:47:11,040 --> 00:47:13,799
Speaker 1: you took on the role of Shooter McGavin not much,

952
00:47:14,080 --> 00:47:16,080
Speaker 1: because this is what happened my then age, and gave

953
00:47:16,160 --> 00:47:19,640
Speaker 1: me a I bought his father's clubs and there were blades,

954
00:47:20,120 --> 00:47:22,080
Speaker 1: you know, the sweet spots about the size of half

955
00:47:22,120 --> 00:47:24,719
Speaker 1: a dime. And I went, I get, I can't hit

956
00:47:24,760 --> 00:47:26,480
Speaker 1: the ball straight. What the hell is going on here?

957
00:47:26,800 --> 00:47:29,440
Speaker 1: I never played during high school or college, but I

958
00:47:29,560 --> 00:47:32,759
Speaker 1: started in my you know, mid twenties. And so by

959
00:47:32,760 --> 00:47:34,759
Speaker 1: the time I did that movie, I had been playing

960
00:47:34,800 --> 00:47:37,400
Speaker 1: a bit because I got hollow back ones. And then

961
00:47:37,400 --> 00:47:40,439
Speaker 1: I thought, oh, this is a lot of consistency here.

962
00:47:41,040 --> 00:47:42,759
Speaker 1: Now I'm I'm like b x G S man that

963
00:47:42,760 --> 00:47:46,520
Speaker 1: messing around Parsons Extreme Golf Clubs baby, they are the

964
00:47:47,160 --> 00:47:51,320
Speaker 1: Mercedes bins of clubs. How many pairs, how many sets?

965
00:47:51,840 --> 00:47:53,840
Speaker 1: How many bags of golf clubs do you own? How

966
00:47:53,880 --> 00:47:58,400
Speaker 1: many have you gotten since you graced the world playing

967
00:47:58,400 --> 00:48:01,320
Speaker 1: Shooter McGavin in Happy More? Do you get golf clubs

968
00:48:01,360 --> 00:48:05,279
Speaker 1: just sent to you? No, but close. I had the bag,

969
00:48:05,360 --> 00:48:08,360
Speaker 1: the original bag from Happy Gilmore, but they said shoot

970
00:48:08,440 --> 00:48:11,360
Speaker 1: McGavin on it, and it's got their great Wilson staffs

971
00:48:11,400 --> 00:48:13,560
Speaker 1: grid clubs. I played with them for a couple of years.

972
00:48:14,080 --> 00:48:17,959
Speaker 1: Then I started getting him from Ping, I started getting

973
00:48:18,040 --> 00:48:21,360
Speaker 1: from Callaway, I started getting until I probably have seven

974
00:48:21,480 --> 00:48:24,520
Speaker 1: bags and two in New York and you've had to

975
00:48:24,560 --> 00:48:27,080
Speaker 1: give away gift of friends. Say no, no, thank you,

976
00:48:27,160 --> 00:48:30,680
Speaker 1: I'm good. Yeah, it's it's you know. I made a

977
00:48:30,760 --> 00:48:33,040
Speaker 1: joke one times like it as great as being so shoot.

978
00:48:33,040 --> 00:48:34,560
Speaker 1: I never played for golf, but of course I played

979
00:48:34,600 --> 00:48:36,919
Speaker 1: for golf. I mean they they give me a nice

980
00:48:37,200 --> 00:48:39,360
Speaker 1: tea spot and everything with nice people. But but I

981
00:48:39,400 --> 00:48:40,960
Speaker 1: always wanted to take that back, so I'm doing it

982
00:48:41,040 --> 00:48:43,719
Speaker 1: on your show. I pay for golf people, and I'm

983
00:48:43,760 --> 00:48:45,880
Speaker 1: not one of those guys that gets, you know, those freebees.

984
00:48:45,920 --> 00:48:49,080
Speaker 1: But clubs. I did very well with clubs. I, you know,

985
00:48:49,200 --> 00:48:51,120
Speaker 1: like I don't like to travel with them because the

986
00:48:51,440 --> 00:48:53,880
Speaker 1: the uh I had a really beautiful set that was

987
00:48:53,920 --> 00:48:55,960
Speaker 1: fitted for me, and somehow they didn't make it the

988
00:48:56,000 --> 00:48:58,680
Speaker 1: plane right. I said, how's that possible? And I said,

989
00:48:58,719 --> 00:49:01,200
Speaker 1: shoot on the bag and they're going on someplace really,

990
00:49:01,280 --> 00:49:02,960
Speaker 1: So I said, I just put them into places where

991
00:49:02,960 --> 00:49:06,440
Speaker 1: I'm going, or I'll for ip plivate private. That's what

992
00:49:06,480 --> 00:49:12,160
Speaker 1: I never worked out. You have the actual bag from

993
00:49:12,200 --> 00:49:15,920
Speaker 1: Happy Gilmore that says shoot her on him? How much

994
00:49:15,920 --> 00:49:17,960
Speaker 1: do you think that puppy's worth? Like that should be

995
00:49:17,960 --> 00:49:21,680
Speaker 1: in the Smithsonian. You know, someone told me that the

996
00:49:21,960 --> 00:49:27,319
Speaker 1: uh I gave the original driver to Jim Kelly event

997
00:49:27,360 --> 00:49:30,319
Speaker 1: to raise money for Kelly for kids, And I thought, well,

998
00:49:30,719 --> 00:49:32,400
Speaker 1: I guess the guy puts it. He buys it for

999
00:49:32,440 --> 00:49:34,600
Speaker 1: ten thousand dollars. He calls to me about a month

1000
00:49:34,680 --> 00:49:36,440
Speaker 1: he goes, you know what that's going for right now?

1001
00:49:36,920 --> 00:49:39,239
Speaker 1: I said what the driver? He goes, yeah, how about

1002
00:49:39,239 --> 00:49:42,560
Speaker 1: four hundred thousand dollars? I said, wow. He said, I

1003
00:49:42,600 --> 00:49:43,960
Speaker 1: think if I hang onto it longer, it's could be

1004
00:49:44,120 --> 00:49:46,600
Speaker 1: much more. He says, what else you got? So I said,

1005
00:49:46,840 --> 00:49:49,080
Speaker 1: I've got the bag where they beat my ass up.

1006
00:49:49,200 --> 00:49:51,440
Speaker 1: And then you know, when I'm running with the jacket,

1007
00:49:51,880 --> 00:49:53,799
Speaker 1: gold jacket, I mean, you know, you have all those

1008
00:49:53,840 --> 00:49:56,239
Speaker 1: boys and guys and girls and beating on me because

1009
00:49:56,320 --> 00:49:59,200
Speaker 1: they take the jacketback. So they made this this bag

1010
00:49:59,280 --> 00:50:00,920
Speaker 1: and they beat it all up. And I have that

1011
00:50:01,000 --> 00:50:03,239
Speaker 1: one too. It's pretty funny. I don't know. The bag

1012
00:50:03,320 --> 00:50:05,000
Speaker 1: is probably worth a lot of money. I don't know.

1013
00:50:05,520 --> 00:50:07,840
Speaker 1: That's crazy. That would be such an on her to

1014
00:50:07,920 --> 00:50:13,680
Speaker 1: have it in the That's like Fonzi's jacket for guy. Um,

1015
00:50:15,360 --> 00:50:19,799
Speaker 1: do you still play golf? I do play today? How

1016
00:50:19,840 --> 00:50:23,000
Speaker 1: many I had to shoot? Actually, I was teaching jeans

1017
00:50:23,080 --> 00:50:27,879
Speaker 1: smart Okay, so were my coach starring hacks. We're gonna

1018
00:50:27,920 --> 00:50:30,480
Speaker 1: do a show with golf involved, and I'm just over

1019
00:50:30,520 --> 00:50:33,560
Speaker 1: the moon about that. So I shoot pretty well now

1020
00:50:33,800 --> 00:50:35,719
Speaker 1: now that I have my clubs fitted for me and

1021
00:50:35,760 --> 00:50:37,759
Speaker 1: I'm really kind of in love with them, and I

1022
00:50:37,880 --> 00:50:40,839
Speaker 1: love the game. I'm swinging smoother, I'm taking that one,

1023
00:50:40,880 --> 00:50:43,080
Speaker 1: and I'm taking a like for example, I'm not a

1024
00:50:43,200 --> 00:50:45,920
Speaker 1: killer long hit or anything, but I can put like

1025
00:50:46,040 --> 00:50:49,319
Speaker 1: a mofo. I got a game down in the short game. Now,

1026
00:50:49,680 --> 00:50:51,600
Speaker 1: I like flop shots when I'm close to the green

1027
00:50:51,680 --> 00:50:54,120
Speaker 1: and a nice long put with this beautiful butter I got.

1028
00:50:54,640 --> 00:50:57,000
Speaker 1: And but I take my six iron out and I

1029
00:50:57,120 --> 00:50:59,719
Speaker 1: just got to whang it down there one seventy five

1030
00:50:59,840 --> 00:51:03,359
Speaker 1: or something and it just kind of just comes off

1031
00:51:03,440 --> 00:51:07,799
Speaker 1: the tea and I So anyway, I'm my golf club

1032
00:51:07,920 --> 00:51:09,279
Speaker 1: is up in where I live in the mountains, and

1033
00:51:09,360 --> 00:51:11,320
Speaker 1: so it's only seasonal. I don't get to play ants

1034
00:51:11,440 --> 00:51:13,319
Speaker 1: I want, but I get a lot of terms. I'm

1035
00:51:13,360 --> 00:51:16,800
Speaker 1: going to the Waste Management Open tomorrow. Are you prepared

1036
00:51:16,880 --> 00:51:19,640
Speaker 1: to go to the Waste Management Open? Been here? I have?

1037
00:51:19,960 --> 00:51:21,800
Speaker 1: I've not been there. I have not been there. And

1038
00:51:22,040 --> 00:51:24,680
Speaker 1: I'm going to the sixteenth tea, which is where the

1039
00:51:24,800 --> 00:51:28,759
Speaker 1: madness happens. It's the craziest hole in Gulf on the

1040
00:51:28,840 --> 00:51:31,880
Speaker 1: PGA Tour. It's nuts. I don't even play golf, and

1041
00:51:31,960 --> 00:51:34,400
Speaker 1: I know about the sixteenth hole at the Waste Management

1042
00:51:34,480 --> 00:51:37,279
Speaker 1: to the madness that goes. It's Waste Management Tournament and

1043
00:51:37,360 --> 00:51:39,759
Speaker 1: the super Bowl in Phoenix about that, it's gonna be

1044
00:51:39,880 --> 00:51:42,440
Speaker 1: a crazy scared I have to go. I'm going to

1045
00:51:42,560 --> 00:51:44,400
Speaker 1: do a gig there for the super I'm scared to

1046
00:51:44,520 --> 00:51:50,160
Speaker 1: get them. Scared of people, the crowds, and the traffic

1047
00:51:50,239 --> 00:51:53,799
Speaker 1: and the Starbucks and god forbid, I need to catch

1048
00:51:53,880 --> 00:51:56,320
Speaker 1: an uber Like that's what I'm afraid of. I'm like,

1049
00:51:56,400 --> 00:51:58,800
Speaker 1: I'm afraid of, you know, when these cities get taken

1050
00:51:58,880 --> 00:52:02,120
Speaker 1: over the that's just like it's almost too much super

1051
00:52:02,200 --> 00:52:05,839
Speaker 1: Bowl and oh my god, and then well they're both

1052
00:52:05,880 --> 00:52:08,400
Speaker 1: gonna well one ends on Sunday and the other one

1053
00:52:08,440 --> 00:52:10,359
Speaker 1: starts on Sunday, so I don't know, but the week

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00:52:10,480 --> 00:52:13,240
Speaker 1: before it's just the show. I mean, I've been to Florida,

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00:52:13,280 --> 00:52:15,920
Speaker 1: I've been all the I've been all kinds of places

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00:52:15,960 --> 00:52:18,360
Speaker 1: in Florida. They always do it, but it becomes crazy,

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00:52:18,440 --> 00:52:22,120
Speaker 1: doesn't It's scary when you're on a golf course playing

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00:52:22,880 --> 00:52:28,400
Speaker 1: and people see you. What's the reaction. Most people are cool, shooter,

1059
00:52:28,880 --> 00:52:30,279
Speaker 1: good to see any good, and I just, you know,

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00:52:30,360 --> 00:52:33,560
Speaker 1: it's like walking down the airport catching the train and

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00:52:33,880 --> 00:52:37,680
Speaker 1: playing your people. God shoot, they shore me shooter jackass

1062
00:52:37,960 --> 00:52:39,480
Speaker 1: and I'll just you know, do that kind of thing,

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00:52:39,920 --> 00:52:41,520
Speaker 1: and they're just like they love it. It's just an

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00:52:41,520 --> 00:52:43,040
Speaker 1: easy thing. They never told me why they would call

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00:52:43,120 --> 00:52:44,719
Speaker 1: them shoot him Gavin by the way, and I thought,

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00:52:44,800 --> 00:52:46,800
Speaker 1: what the heck, I know, I'll get off the t No,

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00:52:46,920 --> 00:52:50,880
Speaker 1: that's stupid. That's what Gilmore does. I'll shoot my putts.

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00:52:50,880 --> 00:52:53,239
Speaker 1: I'll be an excellent putter, and I'll just bang the

1069
00:52:53,320 --> 00:52:55,600
Speaker 1: guns out. That was your thing. So that was my thing. Yeah,

1070
00:52:55,600 --> 00:52:57,799
Speaker 1: and that was so funny because that's what people love,

1071
00:52:57,880 --> 00:53:00,040
Speaker 1: that kind of like thing. Let me tell you on

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00:53:00,320 --> 00:53:05,120
Speaker 1: Chris that character. And I imagine you're like, Okay, it's

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00:53:05,160 --> 00:53:08,520
Speaker 1: twenty five years ago, that character. When I just mentioned

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00:53:08,560 --> 00:53:10,560
Speaker 1: to the few people that I was having on the podcast,

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00:53:11,800 --> 00:53:14,320
Speaker 1: that character. And you know this because you experience it

1076
00:53:14,600 --> 00:53:17,120
Speaker 1: as a person who's done it in your firsthand. But

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00:53:17,360 --> 00:53:20,720
Speaker 1: it's almost like Mickey Mouse in terms of the joy

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00:53:22,160 --> 00:53:24,759
Speaker 1: that it has given people. That's really funny. And I know,

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00:53:25,000 --> 00:53:26,879
Speaker 1: I'm sure there's a party that's like, Okay, I want

1080
00:53:26,920 --> 00:53:28,960
Speaker 1: to I want another Shooter, I want another iconic thing.

1081
00:53:29,360 --> 00:53:33,160
Speaker 1: But just never forget as an actor to create something

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00:53:33,480 --> 00:53:37,840
Speaker 1: that is pure joy. Well you've given to the world

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00:53:37,880 --> 00:53:42,160
Speaker 1: as fans, is something that like I'm sure something like

1084
00:53:42,239 --> 00:53:44,160
Speaker 1: you're probably like, I'm sick of tires four in the

1085
00:53:44,200 --> 00:53:46,120
Speaker 1: morning at the airport and it's like Shooter and you're like,

1086
00:53:46,560 --> 00:53:48,840
Speaker 1: but it is. I mean when I told people I

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00:53:48,880 --> 00:53:51,719
Speaker 1: got Chris they're like shooting McGavin. I'm like, yeah, I

1088
00:53:51,760 --> 00:53:54,400
Speaker 1: got the fucking shooter on the Iron Wrapp Reports stereo podcast.

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Speaker 1: That's really funny to me because it has been five years.

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00:53:58,320 --> 00:54:02,560
Speaker 1: It twenty five years six. Actually, yeah, Adam, Adam did

1091
00:54:02,600 --> 00:54:04,360
Speaker 1: this thing where he get dead shoot. Remember that thing

1092
00:54:04,400 --> 00:54:06,760
Speaker 1: where he did I said, what the hell? My boss

1093
00:54:06,800 --> 00:54:08,360
Speaker 1: called me, I gotta do something. I went, yeah, but

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00:54:08,400 --> 00:54:11,560
Speaker 1: I'm so far from golf. I'll put it. I'll put

1095
00:54:11,600 --> 00:54:15,120
Speaker 1: it in my house, but it would stupid viral. But

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00:54:15,560 --> 00:54:17,000
Speaker 1: it's all I think a lot of it has to

1097
00:54:17,080 --> 00:54:19,759
Speaker 1: do with Adam Sandler followers. I mean, they love them.

1098
00:54:19,840 --> 00:54:22,279
Speaker 1: They love this movie. They love a lot of his movies,

1099
00:54:22,320 --> 00:54:25,480
Speaker 1: but this one stands out. And and I would be lying.

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00:54:25,520 --> 00:54:27,440
Speaker 1: I said, it's not the most popular thing I've ever done.

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00:54:27,480 --> 00:54:30,240
Speaker 1: I've done a hundred something movies. It's just a sports

1102
00:54:30,320 --> 00:54:32,640
Speaker 1: movie and it's a field gun. You love to hate

1103
00:54:32,680 --> 00:54:34,840
Speaker 1: this guy. You love the fact that this is this

1104
00:54:35,440 --> 00:54:38,719
Speaker 1: villain super villain is such a thorn in this side

1105
00:54:38,760 --> 00:54:41,080
Speaker 1: of the underdog, and so does you know it's a

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00:54:41,120 --> 00:54:43,239
Speaker 1: great ending and all that stuff. It never would happen

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00:54:43,280 --> 00:54:45,839
Speaker 1: in real life because they they would they would give

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00:54:45,840 --> 00:54:47,319
Speaker 1: it him a break, you know, and I would never

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00:54:47,400 --> 00:54:49,040
Speaker 1: have to hit it off of Frankistein's fat foot, of

1110
00:54:49,120 --> 00:54:51,040
Speaker 1: course they would, you know, give it take a little

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00:54:51,080 --> 00:54:53,560
Speaker 1: drop over here, that kind of thing. Um you I

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00:54:53,760 --> 00:54:57,600
Speaker 1: I saw a picture of Tiger Woods and you. Yeah.

1113
00:54:58,280 --> 00:55:02,839
Speaker 1: I have seen Tiger Wood in photographs thousands of times.

1114
00:55:03,080 --> 00:55:06,400
Speaker 1: I've never seen that many teeth. You noticed that too.

1115
00:55:06,600 --> 00:55:09,920
Speaker 1: Tiger Woods was elated to see it was good lighting

1116
00:55:09,960 --> 00:55:11,440
Speaker 1: on the side of me because his teeth were like

1117
00:55:12,120 --> 00:55:15,520
Speaker 1: because he was so Tiger Woods was happier to meet you,

1118
00:55:15,600 --> 00:55:18,399
Speaker 1: probably than we've ever seen him happy in his life.

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00:55:18,560 --> 00:55:20,440
Speaker 1: There's pictures of him at the birth of his kid.

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00:55:20,640 --> 00:55:25,280
Speaker 1: He's happy, he's he's he's obviously happy. But that picture

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00:55:25,600 --> 00:55:27,799
Speaker 1: with you and in his head because in his head

1122
00:55:28,080 --> 00:55:34,400
Speaker 1: he's he's thinking I'm with Shooter fucking McGavin, like you're like,

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Speaker 1: like you could have like Tiger Woods would have done

1124
00:55:36,640 --> 00:55:39,440
Speaker 1: anything for you, like Tiger go get my car find me,

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00:55:39,840 --> 00:55:43,000
Speaker 1: like he would have done anything for you. He was elated. No,

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00:55:43,160 --> 00:55:45,399
Speaker 1: I don't think it's I think here's the thing we're doing.

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00:55:45,560 --> 00:55:49,319
Speaker 1: This little thing called p G A Core two ky three.

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Speaker 1: Now it's that live video game you know where you

1129
00:55:53,160 --> 00:55:55,680
Speaker 1: play and they have you know, avatar guys playing you.

1130
00:55:55,880 --> 00:55:58,080
Speaker 1: So we were we were promoting that. I was down

1131
00:55:58,120 --> 00:56:00,880
Speaker 1: at his glob medalist in Flow. Hard to that we

1132
00:56:01,040 --> 00:56:03,479
Speaker 1: we saw each other. But he is a very cool dude.

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00:56:03,760 --> 00:56:05,440
Speaker 1: He was very happy to meet me. Yes, but he

1134
00:56:05,640 --> 00:56:09,560
Speaker 1: is He's smooth as glass. He is just had. He's

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00:56:09,640 --> 00:56:11,840
Speaker 1: one of the biggest icons in the world, not just

1136
00:56:11,960 --> 00:56:14,600
Speaker 1: for golf, just because he's Tiger Tiger freaking Woods and

1137
00:56:14,640 --> 00:56:17,440
Speaker 1: his son Charlie's on fire now and I'm so happy

1138
00:56:17,520 --> 00:56:19,480
Speaker 1: for him. At the same time, it's hard. You see

1139
00:56:19,520 --> 00:56:22,600
Speaker 1: your heartbreaking when he's walking across the bridge for you know,

1140
00:56:22,600 --> 00:56:24,840
Speaker 1: because I'll never actually get back there to win that again.

1141
00:56:25,520 --> 00:56:29,360
Speaker 1: But the legend that is Tiger Woods, it's it's a

1142
00:56:29,520 --> 00:56:34,360
Speaker 1: it's great to be in his company. Um, Chris, I

1143
00:56:34,600 --> 00:56:37,239
Speaker 1: don't know what to say. I sincerely appreciate you coming

1144
00:56:37,239 --> 00:56:40,920
Speaker 1: on the podt my pleasure, Michael, this is so much fun. Um,

1145
00:56:41,520 --> 00:56:43,719
Speaker 1: I would love one day. Did we get to work together? Now,

1146
00:56:43,840 --> 00:56:46,040
Speaker 1: let's do that. We share the same great manager in

1147
00:56:46,080 --> 00:56:48,080
Speaker 1: Danny Sussman. What the hell we need to put here?

1148
00:56:48,160 --> 00:56:49,480
Speaker 1: He really needs to be the one in front of

1149
00:56:49,480 --> 00:56:51,759
Speaker 1: the camera. He'll sit here talking about his giants and

1150
00:56:51,920 --> 00:56:54,320
Speaker 1: I'll tell you what you know. Don't get me stunted.

1151
00:56:55,760 --> 00:56:58,080
Speaker 1: I appreciate you on the Iron Wrap for Stereo Podcast.

1152
00:56:58,200 --> 00:56:59,879
Speaker 1: I wish you nothing but the best, and I would

1153
00:56:59,880 --> 00:57:02,680
Speaker 1: love to work with you someday. Continue kicking ass uh

1154
00:57:02,760 --> 00:57:04,960
Speaker 1: and continue doing your thing. Thank you Michael for having me.

1155
00:57:05,040 --> 00:57:06,719
Speaker 1: And it's an honor to be sitting here with you.

1156
00:57:06,800 --> 00:57:09,920
Speaker 1: And let's work together, pally, Definitely do this, definitely all

1157
00:57:10,000 --> 00:57:17,800
Speaker 1: right bool. I want to thank Chris McDonald the shooter

1158
00:57:17,880 --> 00:57:21,520
Speaker 1: shooting McGavin for taking the time breaking down his career,

1159
00:57:21,600 --> 00:57:24,280
Speaker 1: breaking down some of his greatest moments as an actor.

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00:57:24,640 --> 00:57:27,280
Speaker 1: Excellent excellent podcast. I'm So proud is tell a friend

1161
00:57:27,320 --> 00:57:29,600
Speaker 1: to tell a friend Miles journk the breach, buts ok

1162
00:57:29,720 --> 00:57:31,440
Speaker 1: the dust. Let's take me out of with something real nice.

1163
00:57:31,960 --> 00:57:33,760
Speaker 1: Take me out of here with something real loud, but

1164
00:57:33,800 --> 00:57:35,400
Speaker 1: most important, to take me out of here with something

1165
00:57:35,440 --> 00:57:37,880
Speaker 1: real funky. I am wrapped for Stereo podcast. I'm Out