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Speaker 3: Can you give me a couple of names?

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Speaker 3: You know there's hello can we did he just gloss

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Speaker 3: over that. I'm not going to introduce myself. Hello Hill,

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Speaker 3: What was a good one? Thank you for tuning in.

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Speaker 3: I'm Peanut to himing and this is the NFL Player

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Speaker 3: Second Acts podcast. My guy Roman Harper with me. What's up?

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Speaker 3: Why are you laughing right now? Why you got that

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Speaker 4: Well, because our guests just gave you the craziest look.

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Speaker 3: He wasn't ready.

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Speaker 4: He was not ready, not ready? Why was he not ready?

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Speaker 3: Because he knows you and that was a lot of

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Speaker 2: So you know, I've just talked about a little coffee shot.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, it was like bo bo man, it all just

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Speaker 3: He's a great friend of mine. I've seen him since

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Speaker 3: he was a young pup. Go ahead, well, this young

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Speaker 3: full beard. Apro Bowls, three time All Pro. He says

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Speaker 3: the twenty eleven draft class is somehow the best draft class,

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Speaker 3: the Edge with Cam Jordan. Ladies and gentlemen, Cam Jordan,

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Speaker 3: appreciate what's going on. Welcome to the Welcome to the pot.

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Speaker 3: Why now, why do you think the two thousand eleven

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Speaker 1: You know, there's there's there's great draft class. So yeah,

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Speaker 1: I'm sure you guys can mention all thes we're part of.

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Speaker 1: That doesn't really hold a candle bars, you know.

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Speaker 3: Is it just because you're saying, did you have like

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Speaker 2: I was going crazy that game.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, there's way too much choice.

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Speaker 2: Getting to the building, I'm like, yeah, I was like,

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Speaker 3: For those that don't understand, all right, he's correct, he's correct.

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Speaker 3: It was me, But he was on.

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Speaker 1: Sean Payton kept our training rehab facility at like fifty

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Speaker 3: Clearly, I got at least three years.

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Speaker 3: He went last to twenty four though, yeah, yah, I

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Speaker 4: Kind of ball too early he would fastest to forty

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Speaker 4: You know.

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Speaker 2: You know how I feel about the cold.

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Speaker 3: Come to New Orleans has totally just messed you up

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Speaker 3: Guess what I've never.

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Speaker 2: I'm sure you die on the inside every day. You're like, oh,

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Speaker 2: it's so lovely out here.

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Speaker 4: It's a Chris thirty three terrible.

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Speaker 2: It's my oh you.

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Speaker 3: I'd be calling him when I'm shoveling to drive and

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Speaker 3: I'm like, yo, man, this is what it is.

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Speaker 1: That's where you get to work out. It you don't

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Speaker 3: Yeah, ain't none wrong with it is terrible. Ain't none

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Speaker 3: Playing at a high level for so long? Since twenty eleven,

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Speaker 3: in that draft class, you played two hundred and nine

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Speaker 2: Got out of possible What though to eleven, I feel

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Speaker 3: That's the most of anybody. That's the most oft anybody

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Speaker 3: that whole twenty eleven draft class. Draft class, you got

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Speaker 3: two hundred and nine games and you're still going, I

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Speaker 3: I don't really understand how half sacks work.

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Speaker 6: But you share them somehow, like this is a huge

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Speaker 6: thing with him and Junior Gallett with oh my gosh,

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Speaker 6: this is a people were trying to dive on quarterbacks

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Speaker 6: and get up fast first today.

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Speaker 3: Hey whoever could get up first to the Like it

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Speaker 3: But who touched them?

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Speaker 2: That's how you split it if you if you and.

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Speaker 3: Me, I'm going I got the tack time, I'm going down,

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Speaker 2: Half it.

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Speaker 1: We really was in there, like we both did all

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Speaker 1: a group truck project. Come on, everybody. Everybody deserves a

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Speaker 1: little little yeah, a little something. But what's been your

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Speaker 3: For just playing out a high level for so long?

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Speaker 2: Man blessed, highly favored.

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Speaker 1: You know, I feel like I feel like my God

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Speaker 2: Got to get at least.

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Speaker 4: One, Yeah, you know, and I came in.

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Speaker 1: Like I said, all the coaches sort of hard on

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Speaker 1: it's a chip that I'm gonna carry for the rest

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Speaker 2: They wanted me to be a four.

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Speaker 1: I want to be a defensive end and prove my

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Speaker 4: You know.

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Speaker 3: The thing that I appreciate about Cam and the young

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Speaker 3: group with Lightning d linemen that we had in New

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Speaker 2: I had never understood what that was.

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Speaker 1: I was like, well, he's hite lightning, So maybe is

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Speaker 4: He's doing work, Lightning.

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Speaker 3: He said, he's doing work. He's just working.

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Speaker 4: I thought he was, so he was unscrewed down.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, Junior Gled had something, Will Smith had something like everybody.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean it's just crazy to think about, you know,

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Speaker 1: though we didn't, you know, you got to take advantage

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Speaker 2: Yeah, seventeen and a half ago.

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Speaker 4: So you wanted to get a hunt.

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Speaker 1: This is land yep, Like in my life, this is

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Speaker 1: I can get fifty sacks, I was like, fifty sacks,

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Speaker 1: that's a hell of a career. I was like, you know,

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Speaker 1: there's guys in this league that never get more than ten.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, oh yeah, you gotta hit twenty. Yeah, like you

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Speaker 1: I like thirty five to fifty was my range of

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Speaker 1: Like I was like, hey, like solid career.

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Speaker 2: I was like, I gotta I was like, I gotta

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Speaker 1: Can't be a failure kid, like you know, in my mind,

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Speaker 1: it was like, you know, in my mind, it was

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Speaker 1: could have a seven, eight to ten whatever, five year career,

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Speaker 1: A year in the league is still successful, you know,

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Speaker 1: like you start in the NFL. Absolutely, But in my mind,

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Speaker 1: I'm like, I'm so, I was so jaded. I was like,

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Speaker 1: make ten years, gotta gotta lead, like you know, my

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Speaker 1: I wasn't looking on the outside of like racing against

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Speaker 1: what I don't want to be is you know just that? No,

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Speaker 1: that's the That's Steve's kid. I said, I want to

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Speaker 1: I was like fifty sacks. So once I hit fifty sacks,

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Speaker 1: I hit one hundred sacks. You can't tell me I'm

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Speaker 3: Yeah.

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00:17:44,440 --> 00:17:46,680
Speaker 1: So I was like, one hundred sacks, that's the new goal,

443
00:17:46,720 --> 00:17:48,360
Speaker 1: and I worked my ass off to get it. Now,

444
00:17:48,400 --> 00:17:50,960
Speaker 1: one hundred sacks, I said, okay, I got to reshape

445
00:17:50,960 --> 00:17:51,359
Speaker 1: the dream.

446
00:17:51,720 --> 00:17:52,760
Speaker 4: So where are you at now?

447
00:17:53,160 --> 00:17:54,400
Speaker 2: I didn't. I didn't shoot high enough.

448
00:17:54,440 --> 00:17:56,560
Speaker 4: I was like, like, where are you at now?

449
00:17:56,600 --> 00:17:57,760
Speaker 1: I was like, I was like one fifteen. I was like,

450
00:17:57,800 --> 00:17:58,960
Speaker 1: I was like, all right, one fifteen and a half

451
00:17:59,040 --> 00:18:01,280
Speaker 1: is the Saints record. I gotta go win sixteen. So

452
00:18:01,320 --> 00:18:03,119
Speaker 1: here I'm at one seventeen and a half. I'm like, okay,

453
00:18:03,480 --> 00:18:06,240
Speaker 1: what's the next what's the next number? What's the level up?

454
00:18:06,440 --> 00:18:08,840
Speaker 4: Are we ready to announce it right now? You said

455
00:18:08,840 --> 00:18:10,680
Speaker 4: that I want to go two more years.

456
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Speaker 2: I'm gunning for one thirty this year?

457
00:18:12,440 --> 00:18:14,119
Speaker 4: Okay, yeah I like that.

458
00:18:14,440 --> 00:18:15,280
Speaker 3: Yeah all right.

459
00:18:15,320 --> 00:18:17,119
Speaker 1: Now now I'm just on a year by year. So

460
00:18:17,200 --> 00:18:19,480
Speaker 1: now I'm gunning for one thirty. I don't hit one thirty.

461
00:18:19,920 --> 00:18:22,920
Speaker 3: Literally, I'm going to watch every Saints game just because

462
00:18:22,920 --> 00:18:25,080
Speaker 3: of you. Now, I appreciate that just because of you.

463
00:18:25,160 --> 00:18:26,920
Speaker 3: Because I'm gonna be at the crib and I'm gonna

464
00:18:26,920 --> 00:18:29,480
Speaker 3: be calling Rome on face up, like yo, he got

465
00:18:29,520 --> 00:18:32,400
Speaker 3: another one. He got another one, and I'm gonna send

466
00:18:32,400 --> 00:18:34,320
Speaker 3: it to you every game this year because of you.

467
00:18:34,680 --> 00:18:37,879
Speaker 2: It's gonna be me called Grandison, Chase Young, Brian Berzi.

468
00:18:38,680 --> 00:18:39,879
Speaker 2: I love I love the odds.

469
00:18:40,200 --> 00:18:42,560
Speaker 3: I like it though, man, I like the challenge. That's

470
00:18:42,560 --> 00:18:45,240
Speaker 3: that's what's up. I want to see these The kid's

471
00:18:45,240 --> 00:18:46,359
Speaker 3: gonna be a good player.

472
00:18:46,400 --> 00:18:49,760
Speaker 2: What my guy, My guy, Brian Ziz is nice.

473
00:18:50,000 --> 00:18:52,880
Speaker 4: He's a good player. Yeah, I agree Grandison as well.

474
00:18:53,359 --> 00:18:55,360
Speaker 3: We're gonna take a short break and we'll be back

475
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Speaker 3: in a minute. So we started our podcast. Well yeah,

476
00:18:59,080 --> 00:19:01,560
Speaker 3: we started this podcast as I brought Rome over because

477
00:19:01,600 --> 00:19:03,399
Speaker 3: I sucked doing it by myself and I felt like

478
00:19:03,440 --> 00:19:05,840
Speaker 3: I needed the Batman Robin Combos so we could do

479
00:19:05,880 --> 00:19:09,120
Speaker 3: this thing together. We could tag team. Our message really

480
00:19:09,160 --> 00:19:11,360
Speaker 3: is about players in their second acts. Clearly you are

481
00:19:11,400 --> 00:19:13,919
Speaker 3: far from that because you're still playing and you have

482
00:19:14,040 --> 00:19:17,200
Speaker 3: your own podcast. Now, what made you want to start

483
00:19:17,240 --> 00:19:19,600
Speaker 3: that podcast while you were still playing?

484
00:19:19,960 --> 00:19:23,080
Speaker 2: Oh man, me and uh Me and my guy mark.

485
00:19:23,080 --> 00:19:25,560
Speaker 3: Ingram had a same best friend.

486
00:19:25,640 --> 00:19:28,320
Speaker 1: Yeah, that's my dog. Just you know, just was in

487
00:19:28,400 --> 00:19:33,040
Speaker 1: Liberia with him. That's that's my that's my dog. Kids

488
00:19:33,080 --> 00:19:36,240
Speaker 1: about the same age, you know. I think he got

489
00:19:36,240 --> 00:19:37,840
Speaker 1: married relatively around the same time.

490
00:19:38,320 --> 00:19:39,760
Speaker 2: Like, life is just great.

491
00:19:40,160 --> 00:19:41,200
Speaker 3: What's the name of your podcast?

492
00:19:41,359 --> 00:19:44,879
Speaker 1: Off Off the Edge with Cam Jordan and what you

493
00:19:44,960 --> 00:19:47,640
Speaker 1: just said. It's different doing it alone, Like it's it's

494
00:19:47,640 --> 00:19:48,840
Speaker 1: so much easier with the friend.

495
00:19:48,880 --> 00:19:52,120
Speaker 2: You know, you got you The vibes are always top

496
00:19:52,200 --> 00:19:57,840
Speaker 2: tier when you're doing it with yourself. Just lost.

497
00:19:58,280 --> 00:20:01,160
Speaker 3: Yeah, but okay, okay, that's.

498
00:20:00,960 --> 00:20:02,280
Speaker 2: What this is what I signed up for.

499
00:20:02,480 --> 00:20:03,240
Speaker 3: Bring the juice.

500
00:20:03,640 --> 00:20:05,639
Speaker 1: He's like, Hey, we're gonna talk about how he just

501
00:20:05,800 --> 00:20:09,440
Speaker 1: blew this bag against Spring Bay somehow, but I'm gonna.

502
00:20:09,240 --> 00:20:10,080
Speaker 2: Bring the Jews today.

503
00:20:10,320 --> 00:20:11,840
Speaker 1: I don't know how he lost to this team because

504
00:20:11,840 --> 00:20:14,159
Speaker 1: they were abysmal and we were the reason that we

505
00:20:14,480 --> 00:20:16,240
Speaker 1: the gain confidence and all of a sudden became a

506
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Speaker 1: playoff contender.

507
00:20:17,160 --> 00:20:19,760
Speaker 2: I assume it was our game. When you blew, you know,

508
00:20:19,800 --> 00:20:20,960
Speaker 2: you blow a seventeen lead.

509
00:20:22,240 --> 00:20:24,680
Speaker 3: Yeah, I saw you talk to Jordan Love about that, man.

510
00:20:24,920 --> 00:20:27,520
Speaker 1: Yeah, that'll grind my gears for the rest of my life,

511
00:20:27,560 --> 00:20:30,000
Speaker 1: you know, hopefully not hopefully we win one this year

512
00:20:30,040 --> 00:20:31,119
Speaker 1: and all I talk about is Lo.

513
00:20:31,240 --> 00:20:32,800
Speaker 2: Yeah, I remember that you have the Saints want the

514
00:20:32,840 --> 00:20:34,440
Speaker 2: Super Bowl twenty twenty four.

515
00:20:35,320 --> 00:20:37,320
Speaker 3: Yeah, you know what, I'm not even going to hate,

516
00:20:37,320 --> 00:20:39,679
Speaker 3: but I kind of want to hate because the longest

517
00:20:39,680 --> 00:20:42,520
Speaker 3: New Orleans goes without winning another championship, they just make

518
00:20:42,560 --> 00:20:45,760
Speaker 3: my year that much better. So, not trying to be

519
00:20:45,800 --> 00:20:48,520
Speaker 3: a hater, but it's kind of the thought process of

520
00:20:48,560 --> 00:20:51,040
Speaker 3: a Highlander, you know, where they can only only be one,

521
00:20:51,560 --> 00:20:55,359
Speaker 3: only only one. It's kind of cool. So but not

522
00:20:55,440 --> 00:20:59,000
Speaker 3: hating on you, Camp, I mean I would just this situation. Yeah,

523
00:20:59,160 --> 00:21:03,240
Speaker 3: he hated. Dude, young players ever come to you now

524
00:21:03,280 --> 00:21:05,320
Speaker 3: and try and pick your brain about how you got

525
00:21:05,359 --> 00:21:08,159
Speaker 3: to where you at some of your technique, things like

526
00:21:08,400 --> 00:21:10,480
Speaker 3: how do you take that now? Because you truly are,

527
00:21:11,440 --> 00:21:14,000
Speaker 3: you're the captain, You got all the years on it

528
00:21:14,040 --> 00:21:15,239
Speaker 3: that you can have filled up.

529
00:21:16,440 --> 00:21:18,919
Speaker 4: Yeah, he's that guy. Now you a jet at man.

530
00:21:19,080 --> 00:21:22,120
Speaker 3: So but I've seen this whole transition and now you're

531
00:21:22,119 --> 00:21:24,240
Speaker 3: coming full circle. So how do you treat that and

532
00:21:24,600 --> 00:21:26,639
Speaker 3: how does that go about? And how often does it happen?

533
00:21:27,320 --> 00:21:27,520
Speaker 2: Man?

534
00:21:27,560 --> 00:21:31,720
Speaker 1: Probably since what year two and fourteen when you guys

535
00:21:31,800 --> 00:21:36,080
Speaker 1: left when'd you leave two thousand from the Saints twenty What.

536
00:21:35,359 --> 00:21:35,840
Speaker 3: When I left?

537
00:21:35,920 --> 00:21:39,119
Speaker 4: Yeah, twenty fourteen, thirteen fourteen, yes, so thirteen is my

538
00:21:39,160 --> 00:21:39,520
Speaker 4: last time.

539
00:21:39,560 --> 00:21:43,960
Speaker 1: That was That was the huge culture shift, right, twenty thirteen?

540
00:21:44,680 --> 00:21:47,040
Speaker 1: Roman Harper leaves, So that was fourteen. Yes, So after

541
00:21:47,080 --> 00:21:52,159
Speaker 1: thirteen fourteen, Malcolm Jenkins leaves, Roman Harper leaves, Jonathan Vilma leaves,

542
00:21:52,160 --> 00:21:54,720
Speaker 1: Will Smith leaves. I look around and I go from

543
00:21:54,880 --> 00:21:57,600
Speaker 1: year three four from being just like all right, I'm

544
00:21:57,600 --> 00:21:59,840
Speaker 1: figuring my shit out to everybody looking at me like

545
00:22:00,000 --> 00:22:01,440
Speaker 1: all right, how do we figure our shit out?

546
00:22:01,720 --> 00:22:03,920
Speaker 2: Yeah? I'm like so that was a huge culture shift.

547
00:22:04,119 --> 00:22:06,600
Speaker 2: But since then, so since year four ish.

548
00:22:06,480 --> 00:22:08,520
Speaker 1: Guys been come my way, hey man, like, how do

549
00:22:08,560 --> 00:22:10,240
Speaker 1: you how do you take care of your body?

550
00:22:10,280 --> 00:22:10,480
Speaker 2: Hey?

551
00:22:10,480 --> 00:22:10,640
Speaker 3: Bro?

552
00:22:10,840 --> 00:22:12,840
Speaker 1: Like, I don't take care of my body just yet? Bro,

553
00:22:12,960 --> 00:22:15,879
Speaker 1: Like this actually worn's perfectly fine.

554
00:22:16,000 --> 00:22:17,920
Speaker 2: How much do cold tub? I don't cold tub?

555
00:22:18,119 --> 00:22:20,400
Speaker 3: Is that weird for you though? For God to ask that?

556
00:22:20,600 --> 00:22:22,960
Speaker 1: I mean, yeah, because you're twenty five and you know

557
00:22:23,000 --> 00:22:25,040
Speaker 1: everybody looking at you like, all right, well how do

558
00:22:25,080 --> 00:22:25,439
Speaker 1: we do this?

559
00:22:25,480 --> 00:22:25,639
Speaker 3: Is this?

560
00:22:25,680 --> 00:22:26,400
Speaker 2: You got a massage?

561
00:22:26,400 --> 00:22:26,560
Speaker 4: Guy?

562
00:22:26,600 --> 00:22:30,000
Speaker 1: I don't really I don't need all that yet, you know,

563
00:22:30,160 --> 00:22:31,720
Speaker 1: like and you're you're sitting there, got to figure my

564
00:22:31,720 --> 00:22:34,520
Speaker 1: stuff out, but it made you rapidly figure shit out

565
00:22:34,680 --> 00:22:36,679
Speaker 1: right to where you're like, all right, well this is

566
00:22:36,720 --> 00:22:38,400
Speaker 1: what this is my plan and this is what's worked

567
00:22:38,400 --> 00:22:39,840
Speaker 1: for me, and this is how I can help you.

568
00:22:40,119 --> 00:22:42,520
Speaker 1: And you know, you had young guys at the time

569
00:22:42,600 --> 00:22:45,240
Speaker 1: like John Jenkins and a Keen Hicks you're behind me,

570
00:22:45,520 --> 00:22:48,560
Speaker 1: which was great and coral and everything, and you know,

571
00:22:48,840 --> 00:22:53,200
Speaker 1: just that sort of culture shift. So I've been leading these,

572
00:22:53,280 --> 00:22:56,199
Speaker 1: you know, my D line for ten years now. So

573
00:22:56,320 --> 00:22:58,639
Speaker 1: at this point it's routine. Guys come in and I

574
00:22:58,680 --> 00:23:01,239
Speaker 1: want to push them to their highest levels. Yeah, I'm like,

575
00:23:01,359 --> 00:23:03,199
Speaker 1: you know, I'm on them, like you know, like I'm

576
00:23:03,240 --> 00:23:05,520
Speaker 1: gonna coach myself. I'm like, you know, I don't like

577
00:23:05,520 --> 00:23:07,960
Speaker 1: your hand placement, and I tell them though, I'm like, oh.

578
00:23:07,840 --> 00:23:10,199
Speaker 2: If you don't like my hand placement, tell me. At

579
00:23:10,240 --> 00:23:11,120
Speaker 2: worst comes worse.

580
00:23:11,480 --> 00:23:13,160
Speaker 1: If you say nothing, it makes me worse and makes

581
00:23:13,240 --> 00:23:15,199
Speaker 1: us worse as as a unit because we're a D

582
00:23:15,280 --> 00:23:19,560
Speaker 1: line unit, you know, And so it's sort of easy.

583
00:23:19,600 --> 00:23:21,720
Speaker 1: It's now it's different when now you know you got

584
00:23:21,960 --> 00:23:24,640
Speaker 1: just young guys in general, linebackers wide receivers.

585
00:23:24,680 --> 00:23:25,919
Speaker 2: Whatever. It's like, all right, well what do you do?

586
00:23:25,960 --> 00:23:27,480
Speaker 2: All right, well let's talk about it.

587
00:23:27,560 --> 00:23:28,960
Speaker 1: And it's it's sort of like I said, but it's

588
00:23:28,960 --> 00:23:31,240
Speaker 1: an easy it's an easy progression because it became a

589
00:23:31,280 --> 00:23:32,119
Speaker 1: natural progression.

590
00:23:33,240 --> 00:23:36,520
Speaker 4: You were forced into it, forced into snicker swim.

591
00:23:36,800 --> 00:23:38,919
Speaker 2: Hey what, I didn't choose this life. This life chose me,

592
00:23:38,960 --> 00:23:40,320
Speaker 2: you know, I said, Okay, let's respond.

593
00:23:40,800 --> 00:23:43,920
Speaker 3: Thrown right in the fire. My my, My next question

594
00:23:44,000 --> 00:23:47,000
Speaker 3: for you is, with all your success and where you've

595
00:23:47,000 --> 00:23:51,040
Speaker 3: been and how you've transformed your your your game, who

596
00:23:51,040 --> 00:23:55,320
Speaker 3: would you on your mount rushmore of just sataness.

597
00:23:55,040 --> 00:24:01,199
Speaker 1: NFL period, but period period period life.

598
00:24:01,520 --> 00:24:03,840
Speaker 3: Okay, it could be, it could be live, it could

599
00:24:03,840 --> 00:24:05,879
Speaker 3: be for football. Yeah, I mean, I mean, make it

600
00:24:05,920 --> 00:24:06,560
Speaker 3: whatever you want.

601
00:24:06,680 --> 00:24:09,320
Speaker 1: I mean, there's probably gonna be Steve Jordan right there, right,

602
00:24:09,359 --> 00:24:13,520
Speaker 1: because like if without him, there's no me. Yeah, and

603
00:24:13,560 --> 00:24:16,119
Speaker 1: even even like even if without saying that, like that

604
00:24:16,280 --> 00:24:18,560
Speaker 1: was always my like north Star, right, that was like

605
00:24:18,600 --> 00:24:22,800
Speaker 1: my like chasing the dream was Steve Jordan. And then

606
00:24:23,840 --> 00:24:28,760
Speaker 1: right beside him, I probably put in Russell Peace, rest

607
00:24:28,760 --> 00:24:29,719
Speaker 1: in peace. Chris Dolman.

608
00:24:30,000 --> 00:24:32,800
Speaker 2: Yeah, grew up born born in Minnesota.

609
00:24:32,960 --> 00:24:37,640
Speaker 1: Grew up watching this defensive monster of a front Chris Dolman,

610
00:24:38,200 --> 00:24:40,240
Speaker 1: John Randall, Keith Millard.

611
00:24:40,880 --> 00:24:44,040
Speaker 2: At one season between this D line they had like

612
00:24:44,560 --> 00:24:47,719
Speaker 2: fifty five to sixty sacks between just the D lineman.

613
00:24:48,280 --> 00:24:50,640
Speaker 1: It was and it was like it was like Keith

614
00:24:50,680 --> 00:24:54,159
Speaker 1: Millard had nineteen, John Randall had like thirteen fourteen. It

615
00:24:54,280 --> 00:24:57,480
Speaker 1: was Chris Chris Dolman with another twelve. The other the

616
00:24:57,560 --> 00:25:00,640
Speaker 1: other defensive end had like another eight to nine. Rotators

617
00:25:00,680 --> 00:25:02,959
Speaker 1: had another like five or six. And you're just sitting there,

618
00:25:03,000 --> 00:25:05,359
Speaker 1: You're like, as a kid, you look back at it,

619
00:25:05,400 --> 00:25:07,520
Speaker 1: You're like, this was bananas. But as I grew up

620
00:25:07,560 --> 00:25:10,080
Speaker 1: in you know, high school, whatever, it was those reconnections

621
00:25:10,119 --> 00:25:13,119
Speaker 1: with Chris Doman, those those chats, those textas as texts

622
00:25:13,160 --> 00:25:16,880
Speaker 1: as I got older, even into the league. My guy,

623
00:25:17,000 --> 00:25:20,720
Speaker 1: So rest in peace, Chris Doman up there. Then you

624
00:25:20,720 --> 00:25:23,520
Speaker 1: you know, you you probably you probably say you know

625
00:25:23,560 --> 00:25:27,800
Speaker 1: my wife is up there, right, Nicki, Jordan is up

626
00:25:27,800 --> 00:25:29,600
Speaker 1: on Mount Rushmore because she has to deal with my

627
00:25:30,400 --> 00:25:33,800
Speaker 1: like the same competitive person you see practice I bring

628
00:25:33,880 --> 00:25:38,199
Speaker 1: home and she matches intensity you've seen, NICKI, Yeah, my

629
00:25:38,280 --> 00:25:41,520
Speaker 1: wife is the most competitive person I know, which I

630
00:25:41,680 --> 00:25:43,439
Speaker 1: only assume is going to make all four of my

631
00:25:43,600 --> 00:25:46,480
Speaker 1: kids monsters, and it's not gonna be me. It's gonna

632
00:25:46,520 --> 00:25:50,199
Speaker 1: be her propelling them. Like she's she's uh McDonald's all

633
00:25:50,200 --> 00:25:54,560
Speaker 1: American out of a school out here in La Marble, Marlboro,

634
00:25:54,680 --> 00:25:59,560
Speaker 1: all women's basketball, Yeah, basketball, all American playing basketball, goes

635
00:25:59,600 --> 00:26:02,679
Speaker 1: to rough, ends up whatever that that career was, but

636
00:26:02,720 --> 00:26:07,160
Speaker 1: she ends up playing ball out in Finland, m Javascola, Finland,

637
00:26:07,520 --> 00:26:11,280
Speaker 1: like just the need to continue competing, Like why you

638
00:26:11,359 --> 00:26:11,919
Speaker 1: out here?

639
00:26:12,760 --> 00:26:14,600
Speaker 2: I went to go visit her. It was Neglave thirty.

640
00:26:14,640 --> 00:26:19,400
Speaker 1: I said, I can't stay long actually actually actually goodbye.

641
00:26:20,359 --> 00:26:22,800
Speaker 1: But then so she's up there and my son is

642
00:26:22,880 --> 00:26:25,480
Speaker 1: like he tells me, like like it's his day job

643
00:26:25,520 --> 00:26:25,919
Speaker 1: to tell me.

644
00:26:25,960 --> 00:26:28,560
Speaker 2: He be like, well, Poppy played football, Daddy played football.

645
00:26:28,600 --> 00:26:29,439
Speaker 2: I'm gona play football.

646
00:26:29,440 --> 00:26:31,040
Speaker 1: And I'm like, actually, it's okay to be a lawyer, bro,

647
00:26:31,200 --> 00:26:33,600
Speaker 1: Like it's okay to be a doctor. Probably we're gunning

648
00:26:33,600 --> 00:26:37,159
Speaker 1: for this basketball money. Like but anyways, so that's my

649
00:26:37,240 --> 00:26:40,159
Speaker 1: three and then my fourth. I'm probably gonna just insert

650
00:26:40,200 --> 00:26:42,960
Speaker 1: myself then, like I feel like I have to be

651
00:26:43,040 --> 00:26:43,320
Speaker 1: up there.

652
00:26:43,400 --> 00:26:45,520
Speaker 2: If it's a if rushmore, I have to be up there.

653
00:26:46,200 --> 00:26:49,400
Speaker 3: That is a first. That is I was like, as

654
00:26:49,400 --> 00:26:51,120
Speaker 3: he said it speaking, I'm like, I don't think I've

655
00:26:51,160 --> 00:26:54,119
Speaker 3: ever seen or heard someone put themselves up there on

656
00:26:54,119 --> 00:26:55,719
Speaker 3: the Mount rushmore so, I like it.

657
00:26:55,840 --> 00:26:58,160
Speaker 2: Now you look in the mirror. I like what I say.

658
00:26:58,720 --> 00:26:59,480
Speaker 2: We're doing all right.

659
00:27:00,560 --> 00:27:03,760
Speaker 3: I love that nobody's done that, and I love that.

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Speaker 4: Yes, Cam, you always continue to surprise me. I always

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Speaker 4: continue to surprise me.

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Speaker 3: I appreciate you.

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Speaker 4: We're gonna we're gonna leave it at that.

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Speaker 3: We're gonna leave it at that. Thank y'all for listening.

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Speaker 3: Give us a like, share, follow, subscribe, give us a

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Speaker 3: five star rating. Follow us on Apple podcast. iHeartRadio app.

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Speaker 3: I'm Peanut, That's Rome, that's Cam. He puts himself on

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Speaker 3: his own Mount Rush, and you also now understand why

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Speaker 3: he started out on second Back. Thank y'all for tuning

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Speaker 3: in to The NFL Player's Second Acts podcast. Yeah