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But now we're looking ahead to Victory Monday. 18 00:01:15,480 --> 00:01:17,760 Speaker 2: We're always very happy to see everybody come Out's a 19 00:01:17,760 --> 00:01:21,199 Speaker 2: great place to come out on Monday night, enjoy this show, 20 00:01:21,280 --> 00:01:24,280 Speaker 2: get to meet our special guests, and then have a 21 00:01:24,319 --> 00:01:27,840 Speaker 2: great dinner and watch about twelve things at once on 22 00:01:27,920 --> 00:01:30,600 Speaker 2: all of the different screens they've got. It's a great place. 23 00:01:31,080 --> 00:01:32,959 Speaker 2: We're always happy to have those of you who are 24 00:01:33,000 --> 00:01:35,480 Speaker 2: with us on the Cowboys Radio Network wherever that is, 25 00:01:36,120 --> 00:01:40,000 Speaker 2: and those of you who are watching when and wherever 26 00:01:40,120 --> 00:01:44,720 Speaker 2: you are streamed on Dallascowboys dot Com. That little black box, 27 00:01:44,760 --> 00:01:49,040 Speaker 2: that's what that is. So wave to that. And here's 28 00:01:49,080 --> 00:01:52,320 Speaker 2: our special guest tonight. I don't know how long it's 29 00:01:52,360 --> 00:01:56,279 Speaker 2: been since people have been so excited about a rookie 30 00:01:56,400 --> 00:02:01,120 Speaker 2: offensive lineman. But here is Cooper Bebe the Cowboys starting center. 31 00:02:03,720 --> 00:02:03,800 Speaker 3: Now. 32 00:02:03,880 --> 00:02:05,480 Speaker 2: Of course I will. I might not say that if 33 00:02:05,480 --> 00:02:09,280 Speaker 2: Tyler Geyton was sitting right here, but okay, I mean you, hey, 34 00:02:09,320 --> 00:02:10,799 Speaker 2: thank you for coming. I appreciate it. 35 00:02:10,840 --> 00:02:12,200 Speaker 4: Oh absolutely, thanks for having me on. 36 00:02:12,360 --> 00:02:15,160 Speaker 2: When when you so, when you have a game like yesterday, 37 00:02:15,480 --> 00:02:17,160 Speaker 2: do you really do you not want to go out 38 00:02:17,240 --> 00:02:19,880 Speaker 2: in public or are you looking for something else to 39 00:02:19,880 --> 00:02:20,400 Speaker 2: think about? 40 00:02:21,000 --> 00:02:23,239 Speaker 4: You know, it's definitely tough, especially the way we played. 41 00:02:23,360 --> 00:02:25,840 Speaker 4: Obviously we know you know, we can't can't play like 42 00:02:25,880 --> 00:02:29,120 Speaker 4: that ever again, you know that was unacceptable. You know, 43 00:02:29,200 --> 00:02:31,079 Speaker 4: I'm gonna dude that kind of wants to stay in 44 00:02:31,120 --> 00:02:33,240 Speaker 4: contry to take my mind off things, and you know, 45 00:02:33,320 --> 00:02:35,880 Speaker 4: not not not be out and be around. So I 46 00:02:35,919 --> 00:02:38,240 Speaker 4: try to kind of kind of hide away and you know, 47 00:02:38,400 --> 00:02:40,640 Speaker 4: find something to you know, fulfill my mind. 48 00:02:40,639 --> 00:02:43,160 Speaker 2: What would that be if it wasn't here? What do 49 00:02:43,160 --> 00:02:44,799 Speaker 2: you are? You a football fan? I presume you're a 50 00:02:44,800 --> 00:02:45,520 Speaker 2: football Yes? 51 00:02:45,560 --> 00:02:46,040 Speaker 4: Absolutely? 52 00:02:46,440 --> 00:02:48,079 Speaker 2: So would you watch the game tonight? 53 00:02:48,400 --> 00:02:51,280 Speaker 4: Yes? Oh yeah, absolutely, I'll take my mind off. 54 00:02:51,240 --> 00:02:54,079 Speaker 2: Okay, good, all right, and then we'll find out more 55 00:02:54,080 --> 00:02:56,799 Speaker 2: about the whole idea of this is because people have 56 00:02:56,919 --> 00:02:59,760 Speaker 2: been so excited about Cooper since he was drafted, is 57 00:02:59,800 --> 00:03:01,960 Speaker 2: for for you guys to get to meet him and 58 00:03:02,080 --> 00:03:05,080 Speaker 2: know him as a human being and not just a 59 00:03:05,120 --> 00:03:07,040 Speaker 2: guy with a number on his shirt and a cage 60 00:03:07,080 --> 00:03:10,520 Speaker 2: on his head. There's a real three dimensional person in there. 61 00:03:11,960 --> 00:03:14,639 Speaker 2: And so I would like to start with, well, I 62 00:03:14,639 --> 00:03:18,560 Speaker 2: guess I will ask you one thing, not specifically about yesterday, 63 00:03:18,600 --> 00:03:20,640 Speaker 2: but there were a lot of questions for all for 64 00:03:20,720 --> 00:03:23,640 Speaker 2: the coordinators and coach McCarthy today, as there always are 65 00:03:23,680 --> 00:03:27,280 Speaker 2: after game like this. How do you process it? What 66 00:03:27,280 --> 00:03:29,359 Speaker 2: do you do it's so early in the season, nobody 67 00:03:29,360 --> 00:03:32,160 Speaker 2: knows what anybody is. But how do you process a 68 00:03:32,200 --> 00:03:32,680 Speaker 2: game like that? 69 00:03:33,600 --> 00:03:35,480 Speaker 4: I think the biggest thing for us is, you know, 70 00:03:35,520 --> 00:03:37,840 Speaker 4: you got to take a big hard look in the mirror, 71 00:03:37,920 --> 00:03:39,600 Speaker 4: and we know, you know that game wasn't up to 72 00:03:39,600 --> 00:03:42,160 Speaker 4: our standard. You know, we got beat in all three phases, 73 00:03:42,200 --> 00:03:44,240 Speaker 4: you know, pretty bad. And you know, you take you 74 00:03:44,280 --> 00:03:46,480 Speaker 4: take a day like today, you look at the film 75 00:03:46,520 --> 00:03:48,560 Speaker 4: and you know, you get the corrections made, and we're 76 00:03:48,760 --> 00:03:51,280 Speaker 4: gonna get corrected. You know, we're gonna write the ship again. 77 00:03:51,400 --> 00:03:53,520 Speaker 4: And then now you move on. You know, like you said, 78 00:03:53,520 --> 00:03:55,360 Speaker 4: it's a long season. It's early in the season. You know, 79 00:03:55,480 --> 00:03:58,120 Speaker 4: we can't win one loss, you know, dictate our season 80 00:03:58,160 --> 00:03:59,160 Speaker 4: all right, now, we are. 81 00:03:59,040 --> 00:04:01,480 Speaker 2: Going to talk a plant about how you came to 82 00:04:01,520 --> 00:04:07,280 Speaker 2: play this position that you play. But does your do 83 00:04:07,400 --> 00:04:12,760 Speaker 2: your parents know that this show is streamed on on 84 00:04:12,800 --> 00:04:13,480 Speaker 2: the website? 85 00:04:13,600 --> 00:04:15,200 Speaker 4: Oh absolutely, my dad's all over that. 86 00:04:15,680 --> 00:04:16,840 Speaker 2: You think they're watching right now? 87 00:04:16,920 --> 00:04:19,520 Speaker 4: Oh? I can almost gar Okay. 88 00:04:19,720 --> 00:04:22,599 Speaker 2: Okay, well, hi guys, how are you they? They? I 89 00:04:22,640 --> 00:04:26,400 Speaker 2: love that your parents are active on social media. Your 90 00:04:26,480 --> 00:04:28,360 Speaker 2: dad sends out a picture every week? 91 00:04:28,480 --> 00:04:30,680 Speaker 4: Oh yeah, absolutely, my dad's all over it, you know, 92 00:04:30,800 --> 00:04:33,359 Speaker 4: especially you know, if anybody talks anything about me. You know, 93 00:04:33,400 --> 00:04:36,040 Speaker 4: he has the Google notification, so he's he's right on 94 00:04:36,080 --> 00:04:36,599 Speaker 4: it right away. 95 00:04:36,640 --> 00:04:38,600 Speaker 2: Does anybody has anybody said anything bad about you? 96 00:04:39,880 --> 00:04:41,719 Speaker 4: Not that I've seen. I mean I try to you 97 00:04:41,760 --> 00:04:43,279 Speaker 4: know you looking at you? 98 00:04:44,480 --> 00:04:46,280 Speaker 5: How is it having you know, such a grace of 99 00:04:46,360 --> 00:04:47,800 Speaker 5: port system like your dad and your mom. 100 00:04:48,080 --> 00:04:50,159 Speaker 4: Oh, it's amazing. I mean they you know, they haven't 101 00:04:50,160 --> 00:04:52,479 Speaker 4: missed a game since you know, the freshman year of college. 102 00:04:52,520 --> 00:04:55,000 Speaker 4: And you know they've always been, you know, my rock 103 00:04:55,080 --> 00:04:56,520 Speaker 4: and you know the people that hold me down and 104 00:04:56,760 --> 00:04:58,600 Speaker 4: they're just support me through the good and bad. So 105 00:04:59,080 --> 00:05:00,559 Speaker 4: you know, I wouldn't be where I am him today 106 00:05:00,600 --> 00:05:01,239 Speaker 4: without them. 107 00:05:01,040 --> 00:05:01,360 Speaker 2: For sure. 108 00:05:01,360 --> 00:05:04,080 Speaker 5: After games like this or get like yesterday, what was 109 00:05:04,120 --> 00:05:05,160 Speaker 5: the message from your dad? 110 00:05:05,920 --> 00:05:07,359 Speaker 4: So you know, it's kind of funny, you know, you 111 00:05:07,400 --> 00:05:10,200 Speaker 4: get you get the mom that's all, you know, all cuddly. Oh, 112 00:05:10,240 --> 00:05:11,720 Speaker 4: it's gonna be all right. And then you know what, 113 00:05:11,760 --> 00:05:13,600 Speaker 4: you know, me and my dad kind of have a unique, 114 00:05:14,120 --> 00:05:16,080 Speaker 4: you know, you know kind of relationship because you know, 115 00:05:16,120 --> 00:05:19,160 Speaker 4: he brings his binoculars to games and he only watches me. 116 00:05:19,720 --> 00:05:21,599 Speaker 4: And you know, right after the you know game, we 117 00:05:21,640 --> 00:05:22,520 Speaker 4: always talk about. 118 00:05:22,680 --> 00:05:25,159 Speaker 2: As a dad, I can relate he's doing it right. Okay, 119 00:05:25,240 --> 00:05:25,640 Speaker 2: go ahead. 120 00:05:25,760 --> 00:05:27,839 Speaker 4: So after, you know, after games, I always come up 121 00:05:27,880 --> 00:05:29,440 Speaker 4: to him like, dang, do you see you know maybe 122 00:05:29,480 --> 00:05:31,359 Speaker 4: I missed the block here or did something there. So 123 00:05:31,400 --> 00:05:33,360 Speaker 4: we kind of, you know, talked through that that way, 124 00:05:33,400 --> 00:05:35,039 Speaker 4: and you know, talk about stuff you know, maybe I 125 00:05:35,080 --> 00:05:37,200 Speaker 4: need to improve on or you know, something I missed 126 00:05:37,200 --> 00:05:39,240 Speaker 4: throughout the game. So we kind of you get the 127 00:05:39,279 --> 00:05:40,880 Speaker 4: love from the mom, but you know, you kind of 128 00:05:40,920 --> 00:05:43,039 Speaker 4: get the you know hard like hey, you know, you know, 129 00:05:43,640 --> 00:05:45,400 Speaker 4: help do this or you need to work on that 130 00:05:45,480 --> 00:05:47,280 Speaker 4: from your dad, So you kind of get both sides 131 00:05:47,279 --> 00:05:49,640 Speaker 4: of it, which I enjoy. Did he play Yeah, so 132 00:05:49,760 --> 00:05:51,760 Speaker 4: he didn't play in the NFL, but he played college 133 00:05:51,760 --> 00:05:54,239 Speaker 4: football at State. He was an All American offensive lineman. 134 00:05:54,320 --> 00:05:58,640 Speaker 2: Okay, good, so he knows what he's talking about. But 135 00:05:58,760 --> 00:06:01,920 Speaker 2: you say, your mother gets you all the motherly soft 136 00:06:02,480 --> 00:06:05,640 Speaker 2: place to land. Who's great. But everybody who's a Cowboy 137 00:06:05,680 --> 00:06:09,400 Speaker 2: fan saw all the videos after you were drafted of 138 00:06:09,839 --> 00:06:12,920 Speaker 2: your mom being the one taking snaps from you as 139 00:06:12,960 --> 00:06:16,520 Speaker 2: you were trying to practice becoming a center. So how 140 00:06:16,520 --> 00:06:18,320 Speaker 2: did that become mom instead of dead? 141 00:06:19,120 --> 00:06:21,680 Speaker 4: Yeah? So it was kind of a funny situation. Obviously, 142 00:06:21,760 --> 00:06:23,440 Speaker 4: you know, I got drafted. You know, the first thing 143 00:06:23,480 --> 00:06:24,760 Speaker 4: they told me is, hey, you need to learn how 144 00:06:24,760 --> 00:06:26,919 Speaker 4: to snap. You're gonna play center. And you know, it 145 00:06:27,000 --> 00:06:29,240 Speaker 4: kind of worked out that when I would go and 146 00:06:29,440 --> 00:06:32,200 Speaker 4: work out and come back home, it'd be my mom's 147 00:06:32,279 --> 00:06:34,760 Speaker 4: lunch break. My dad would still be working, and you know, 148 00:06:34,839 --> 00:06:37,200 Speaker 4: she took the time to you know, every day she 149 00:06:37,440 --> 00:06:39,760 Speaker 4: would skip lunch and go out in the backyard and 150 00:06:39,800 --> 00:06:42,159 Speaker 4: catch snaps for me, which you know means the world 151 00:06:42,240 --> 00:06:44,200 Speaker 4: to me. And you know, it was kind of cool 152 00:06:44,240 --> 00:06:46,800 Speaker 4: to see the video been going viral all over the place. 153 00:06:46,880 --> 00:06:49,440 Speaker 4: But yeah, she was definitely holding it down for me, 154 00:06:49,560 --> 00:06:51,000 Speaker 4: you know, like I say, you know, she got to 155 00:06:51,040 --> 00:06:53,040 Speaker 4: hear we go and all that, so she was really 156 00:06:53,040 --> 00:06:55,960 Speaker 4: into it, and you know, I'm forever grateful for her. 157 00:06:56,680 --> 00:06:59,320 Speaker 5: Sometimes, you do you see her kind of finding herself 158 00:06:59,360 --> 00:07:02,520 Speaker 5: trying to tip in that dad mode as far as 159 00:07:02,520 --> 00:07:04,640 Speaker 5: being a little bit hard at you sometimes or do 160 00:07:04,680 --> 00:07:05,080 Speaker 5: you ever. 161 00:07:04,920 --> 00:07:07,159 Speaker 4: See that, Yeah, especially when you know we were first 162 00:07:07,240 --> 00:07:08,880 Speaker 4: kind of getting to it. You know, it wasn't you know, 163 00:07:09,000 --> 00:07:10,840 Speaker 4: some of the snaps are off and she let me 164 00:07:10,880 --> 00:07:12,840 Speaker 4: know about it. You know, I told her, don't be afraid. 165 00:07:12,920 --> 00:07:14,600 Speaker 4: You know, if you've seen in the video, she's holding 166 00:07:14,640 --> 00:07:16,480 Speaker 4: it right where it was and she'll tell me when 167 00:07:16,480 --> 00:07:18,880 Speaker 4: it was a bad snap. So she was definitely on 168 00:07:19,280 --> 00:07:21,320 Speaker 4: me about that. But you know, I think I needed that, so, 169 00:07:21,360 --> 00:07:22,080 Speaker 4: you know, help me out. 170 00:07:22,120 --> 00:07:25,280 Speaker 2: Now, I'm gonna ask you what an uncomfortable question, because 171 00:07:25,320 --> 00:07:31,239 Speaker 2: that's what I do. So you never played center high school. 172 00:07:31,440 --> 00:07:34,200 Speaker 2: We know you played almost everything else at Kansas State, 173 00:07:34,880 --> 00:07:38,920 Speaker 2: but not center. No center in high school. Okay, So 174 00:07:39,080 --> 00:07:42,320 Speaker 2: now and they tell you that they draft you, and 175 00:07:42,320 --> 00:07:45,640 Speaker 2: they say get ready, you're moving, get ready to play cetter. 176 00:07:46,400 --> 00:07:50,960 Speaker 2: So what we've seen is your mom taking shotgun snaps. 177 00:07:52,760 --> 00:07:54,360 Speaker 2: Quarterback's not always in shotgun. 178 00:07:56,200 --> 00:07:58,800 Speaker 4: Yeah, honestly for me, you know, the understanding of the 179 00:07:58,840 --> 00:08:01,440 Speaker 4: uncomfortable question, Yeah, I mean the under center was was 180 00:08:01,480 --> 00:08:04,120 Speaker 4: the easy part for me. Honestly. I think it was 181 00:08:04,160 --> 00:08:06,160 Speaker 4: just the shotgun snaps that I wasn't something I wasn't 182 00:08:06,240 --> 00:08:08,760 Speaker 4: used to and cause I you know, in college, had 183 00:08:08,800 --> 00:08:11,240 Speaker 4: taken like you know, done quarterback exchange and that kind 184 00:08:11,240 --> 00:08:13,800 Speaker 4: of thing as a you know, last resort backup, but 185 00:08:14,120 --> 00:08:18,080 Speaker 4: never in you know, live game, live practice. So yeah, 186 00:08:18,120 --> 00:08:20,840 Speaker 4: the shotgun snats where I needed to work. You know, 187 00:08:20,880 --> 00:08:24,720 Speaker 4: the under center kind of came natural, and you know that, Yeah, 188 00:08:24,720 --> 00:08:26,320 Speaker 4: it was just really the shotgun snatch that I was 189 00:08:26,400 --> 00:08:27,480 Speaker 4: afraid of at first. 190 00:08:27,480 --> 00:08:30,360 Speaker 2: How much different was it when you got into camp 191 00:08:31,160 --> 00:08:34,240 Speaker 2: and now there was a large human standing right on 192 00:08:34,360 --> 00:08:35,640 Speaker 2: your nose when you did that. 193 00:08:36,280 --> 00:08:39,280 Speaker 4: That was definitely, you know, kind of eye opening experience, 194 00:08:39,800 --> 00:08:41,720 Speaker 4: you know, especially when you you know, have you know, 195 00:08:41,760 --> 00:08:43,800 Speaker 4: a Mazie or somebody right in front of you, another 196 00:08:43,880 --> 00:08:46,000 Speaker 4: large human being and you know, you got to get 197 00:08:46,000 --> 00:08:47,760 Speaker 4: that snap off and get your hands up pretty quick. 198 00:08:47,760 --> 00:08:50,120 Speaker 4: It wasn't something I was used to at first, but 199 00:08:50,240 --> 00:08:52,080 Speaker 4: you know, I'm I'm the dude that's gonna adapt and 200 00:08:52,120 --> 00:08:54,920 Speaker 4: adjust and you know, you learn from you know that 201 00:08:54,920 --> 00:08:57,960 Speaker 4: that those experiences and you continue to get better. And 202 00:08:58,000 --> 00:09:00,480 Speaker 4: you know, by midway through camp and I was down. 203 00:09:00,559 --> 00:09:02,800 Speaker 4: I had no problem with somebody being right on me, 204 00:09:02,880 --> 00:09:04,520 Speaker 4: and you know, it was just a matter about getting 205 00:09:04,520 --> 00:09:05,160 Speaker 4: my hands up. 206 00:09:05,240 --> 00:09:08,160 Speaker 5: Making the transition to play center. How hard was that 207 00:09:08,240 --> 00:09:08,720 Speaker 5: as a whole? 208 00:09:09,679 --> 00:09:11,800 Speaker 4: I think for me it was just a mental part 209 00:09:11,840 --> 00:09:13,679 Speaker 4: of it. You know, at the end of the day, 210 00:09:13,679 --> 00:09:16,040 Speaker 4: football's football. But you know, I've never been the guy, 211 00:09:16,120 --> 00:09:18,000 Speaker 4: like I said, never played in college was never the 212 00:09:18,040 --> 00:09:20,640 Speaker 4: guy that knows pointing out Mike IDs and that kind 213 00:09:20,679 --> 00:09:23,079 Speaker 4: of thing. So really the biggest challenge for me when 214 00:09:23,080 --> 00:09:25,240 Speaker 4: I first got here was just learning the offense and 215 00:09:25,280 --> 00:09:27,920 Speaker 4: being comfortable and confident with that. And you know, I 216 00:09:27,920 --> 00:09:29,680 Speaker 4: think one of the biggest things, you know, that has 217 00:09:29,720 --> 00:09:32,120 Speaker 4: helped me was when I started, you know, working with 218 00:09:32,120 --> 00:09:34,600 Speaker 4: the starters and you know, you got Dak, you got 219 00:09:34,679 --> 00:09:36,840 Speaker 4: Zach there that you know, if I have questions, they're 220 00:09:36,840 --> 00:09:38,839 Speaker 4: there to correct me. And that gave me such a 221 00:09:38,840 --> 00:09:40,920 Speaker 4: big confidence boost and it's allowed me to go out 222 00:09:40,920 --> 00:09:43,240 Speaker 4: there and play confident knowing I can make an id 223 00:09:43,440 --> 00:09:45,600 Speaker 4: point and if if Dak sees something different, he could 224 00:09:45,640 --> 00:09:47,120 Speaker 4: change me. So that's one of the big things I 225 00:09:47,120 --> 00:09:48,840 Speaker 4: think that's really helped my confidence. 226 00:09:49,240 --> 00:09:50,960 Speaker 2: Does Zach ever do it or is it? Is it 227 00:09:51,000 --> 00:09:51,600 Speaker 2: all on you? 228 00:09:52,280 --> 00:09:54,319 Speaker 4: So it's most time, it's all I mean, Zach has 229 00:09:54,320 --> 00:09:55,880 Speaker 4: done it a couple of times, just you know, if 230 00:09:55,920 --> 00:09:58,520 Speaker 4: we get a weird look, you know, especially in protection, 231 00:09:59,120 --> 00:10:00,839 Speaker 4: you know we have you know, throughout the week, we 232 00:10:00,920 --> 00:10:02,680 Speaker 4: have our game plan, but you know, if he sees 233 00:10:02,720 --> 00:10:04,760 Speaker 4: some like hey, I think we should do it this way, 234 00:10:05,040 --> 00:10:06,839 Speaker 4: you know, he has the authority to correct me, and 235 00:10:06,920 --> 00:10:08,360 Speaker 4: of course you know I'm gonna listen to a guy 236 00:10:08,400 --> 00:10:09,439 Speaker 4: like that for sure. 237 00:10:09,240 --> 00:10:11,920 Speaker 2: All right, So you said when it started to get 238 00:10:11,960 --> 00:10:14,400 Speaker 2: a little easier, when you started working with the starters, 239 00:10:14,920 --> 00:10:18,640 Speaker 2: and of course when Tyler Geyton, hopefully we'll have Tyler 240 00:10:18,679 --> 00:10:20,760 Speaker 2: here later in the year. But when Tyler was drafted, 241 00:10:20,960 --> 00:10:26,000 Speaker 2: Tyron Smith's left, and there's there's a whole go play that. 242 00:10:26,880 --> 00:10:30,800 Speaker 2: But brock Hoffman worked very hard in the off season, 243 00:10:31,280 --> 00:10:34,880 Speaker 2: and he didn't let them give you quite as clear 244 00:10:34,960 --> 00:10:40,840 Speaker 2: a path apparently to the starting position. To how much 245 00:10:40,880 --> 00:10:44,000 Speaker 2: did that help you? How much has brock Kauffman helped you? 246 00:10:44,120 --> 00:10:46,480 Speaker 4: Oh, a tremendous amount. I mean I owe a lot 247 00:10:46,600 --> 00:10:49,000 Speaker 4: to him, you know, I think especially when I got here. 248 00:10:49,080 --> 00:10:51,320 Speaker 4: You know, we're reor competing for the same job, so 249 00:10:51,400 --> 00:10:53,600 Speaker 4: you know, he already was a step ahead of me. 250 00:10:53,679 --> 00:10:55,360 Speaker 4: So he could have just said, hey, I'm not here 251 00:10:55,360 --> 00:10:57,160 Speaker 4: to help you, like I'm not gonna help you. But 252 00:10:57,520 --> 00:10:59,120 Speaker 4: you know, he was helpful through it all, you know, 253 00:10:59,240 --> 00:11:02,000 Speaker 4: giving me super you know, super good advice tips and tricks. 254 00:11:02,320 --> 00:11:03,880 Speaker 4: You know, he'd help me with my snaps and that 255 00:11:03,960 --> 00:11:05,840 Speaker 4: kind of thing. So you know, I owe so much 256 00:11:05,880 --> 00:11:08,280 Speaker 4: to him. You know, he's just a stand up guy. 257 00:11:08,760 --> 00:11:10,240 Speaker 4: You know, he's a team player. He could have just 258 00:11:10,280 --> 00:11:12,600 Speaker 4: shut me out, you know, been like, hey, we're competing 259 00:11:12,640 --> 00:11:14,320 Speaker 4: for the same spot. I'm not going to help you out. 260 00:11:14,360 --> 00:11:16,640 Speaker 4: But you know, he was a team player and he 261 00:11:16,640 --> 00:11:19,120 Speaker 4: helped me out, and I'm, you know, forever grateful for him. 262 00:11:19,400 --> 00:11:21,640 Speaker 2: And one last thing about that will take a break 263 00:11:21,640 --> 00:11:27,000 Speaker 2: and then we'll move on. How conscious were you early 264 00:11:27,679 --> 00:11:31,640 Speaker 2: of having of being basically in control of everybody else 265 00:11:32,280 --> 00:11:34,200 Speaker 2: in the huddle? Once you break and get to the 266 00:11:34,200 --> 00:11:36,800 Speaker 2: line of scrimmage and you're making the IDs and the checks, 267 00:11:37,160 --> 00:11:40,160 Speaker 2: it's now not you waiting for someone to tell you, 268 00:11:40,160 --> 00:11:43,160 Speaker 2: you're the one telling everybody else. How much is that 269 00:11:43,240 --> 00:11:46,319 Speaker 2: a part of getting comfortable learning how to play that position. 270 00:11:46,600 --> 00:11:48,840 Speaker 4: That's a huge part of it, you know, especially you 271 00:11:48,840 --> 00:11:50,480 Speaker 4: know when you work on the starters and you have 272 00:11:50,520 --> 00:11:52,040 Speaker 4: you know, Zach and a lot of dudes that played 273 00:11:52,040 --> 00:11:53,840 Speaker 4: a bunch of football. They were relying on me, you know, 274 00:11:53,840 --> 00:11:55,440 Speaker 4: and this this is my first time ever playing, so 275 00:11:55,640 --> 00:11:57,520 Speaker 4: you know, when I first got into it, you know, 276 00:11:57,559 --> 00:12:00,680 Speaker 4: it wasn't very vocal. You know, he was getting on 277 00:12:00,720 --> 00:12:02,920 Speaker 4: me a bunch about being vocal, making sure you know, 278 00:12:03,040 --> 00:12:03,480 Speaker 4: my points. 279 00:12:03,559 --> 00:12:05,760 Speaker 2: That's Brian Schottenheimer. The offensive court were. 280 00:12:05,640 --> 00:12:08,880 Speaker 4: Big and long so people could see it. And you know, 281 00:12:08,880 --> 00:12:10,800 Speaker 4: they started harping me on that, and I knew, you know, 282 00:12:10,960 --> 00:12:13,320 Speaker 4: it just came with confidence. Once I continue to learn 283 00:12:13,400 --> 00:12:16,240 Speaker 4: the playbook, you know, my confidence continued to rise. And 284 00:12:16,240 --> 00:12:17,800 Speaker 4: then I got out there and you know, I was like, hey, 285 00:12:17,800 --> 00:12:19,640 Speaker 4: I'm gonna, you know, make sure I don't let these 286 00:12:19,640 --> 00:12:22,040 Speaker 4: guys down. I control it all, so let me, you know, 287 00:12:22,120 --> 00:12:24,480 Speaker 4: step up, be confident, be loud, and you know it's 288 00:12:24,600 --> 00:12:26,400 Speaker 4: kind of, you know, gone really good from there. 289 00:12:26,520 --> 00:12:28,600 Speaker 2: Can you tell we're gonna like Cooper Babe, We're gonna 290 00:12:28,640 --> 00:12:32,240 Speaker 2: enjoy our time with him. 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Now, sorry, I went to Missouri. 310 00:16:35,160 --> 00:16:37,520 Speaker 2: I'm not sorry that I went to Missouri. But once 311 00:16:37,600 --> 00:16:40,600 Speaker 2: upon a time, Missouri and kansasdate were rivals. Now they're 312 00:16:40,640 --> 00:16:42,840 Speaker 2: not in the same conference anymore, and that's a whole 313 00:16:42,880 --> 00:16:47,920 Speaker 2: nother movie. But people who are not familiar with the state. 314 00:16:48,160 --> 00:16:50,800 Speaker 2: I also, by the way, this matters to no one 315 00:16:50,880 --> 00:16:53,840 Speaker 2: but me, uh and my brother who's sitting out there, 316 00:16:54,400 --> 00:16:57,480 Speaker 2: because he was born in Topeka, Okay, and we lived 317 00:16:57,480 --> 00:17:00,600 Speaker 2: in Topeka and Wichita, so we know a little bit 318 00:17:00,640 --> 00:17:06,120 Speaker 2: about Kansas and Kansas City. Kansas and Kansas City, Missouri. 319 00:17:06,560 --> 00:17:10,560 Speaker 2: Not necessarily the same thing, No, not at all different 320 00:17:10,560 --> 00:17:14,200 Speaker 2: approaches described how you see the differences. 321 00:17:14,720 --> 00:17:17,800 Speaker 4: Well, you know, I may be biased, but you're entitled. 322 00:17:18,160 --> 00:17:20,719 Speaker 4: Kansas City. Kansas is definitely the better part of Kansas 323 00:17:20,760 --> 00:17:23,880 Speaker 4: City because I think, you know, once you get over 324 00:17:23,920 --> 00:17:26,000 Speaker 4: to Missouri, you know, that's when you get the knobs 325 00:17:26,000 --> 00:17:29,280 Speaker 4: and that kind of thing. And I think you clearly 326 00:17:29,280 --> 00:17:29,960 Speaker 4: why I went. 327 00:17:29,960 --> 00:17:32,200 Speaker 2: No, No, clearly why I went to Missouri. Go ahead. 328 00:17:32,280 --> 00:17:34,119 Speaker 4: And I think you know, on the Kansas side, you 329 00:17:34,160 --> 00:17:36,359 Speaker 4: get the you know, blue collar, hard working people. And 330 00:17:36,359 --> 00:17:38,639 Speaker 4: that's my opinion and I'm gonna gonna stick to that. 331 00:17:38,800 --> 00:17:39,800 Speaker 2: So were you a Chiefs fan? 332 00:17:40,320 --> 00:17:43,280 Speaker 4: I actually was not so funny. You know, I'll probably 333 00:17:43,320 --> 00:17:45,480 Speaker 4: get booed here, but I was actually grew up a 334 00:17:45,480 --> 00:17:46,640 Speaker 4: Patriots fan. I'll tell you why. 335 00:17:46,760 --> 00:17:50,400 Speaker 2: Before yeah settled out, I'll tell you you didn't pay 336 00:17:50,400 --> 00:17:51,560 Speaker 2: to get in here, settle out. 337 00:17:52,000 --> 00:17:54,480 Speaker 4: I'll tell you why. So growing up, I wanted to 338 00:17:54,480 --> 00:17:56,720 Speaker 4: play defensive tackle. That's actually what I got recruited. In 339 00:17:56,760 --> 00:17:59,960 Speaker 4: case we're gonna get to that, go ahead. Vince Wilfork, 340 00:18:00,080 --> 00:18:02,280 Speaker 4: I don't know why he was my favorite player. I 341 00:18:02,320 --> 00:18:04,960 Speaker 4: love the you know, a big guy ensemble with the 342 00:18:05,200 --> 00:18:08,720 Speaker 4: you know, overall shirt. When I was younger, you know, 343 00:18:08,760 --> 00:18:11,080 Speaker 4: I I thought that was so cool, and you know, 344 00:18:11,119 --> 00:18:12,919 Speaker 4: he just happened to play for the Patriots, so I 345 00:18:12,960 --> 00:18:13,920 Speaker 4: became Patriots fans. 346 00:18:13,960 --> 00:18:16,960 Speaker 2: Were you a nose tackle when you played the defensive line? Well, 347 00:18:17,000 --> 00:18:19,359 Speaker 2: I mean he I mean he was born a nose tackle, 348 00:18:19,640 --> 00:18:22,159 Speaker 2: Bence Wilford. So that's cool. I mean, I think have 349 00:18:22,200 --> 00:18:26,480 Speaker 2: you seen his barbecue commercials with Jason Kelcel. Yeah, just 350 00:18:26,760 --> 00:18:34,480 Speaker 2: really very He's very good at it. So the defensive 351 00:18:34,480 --> 00:18:38,360 Speaker 2: line part of it really interests me. Here's a fun 352 00:18:38,400 --> 00:18:41,399 Speaker 2: fact that I'll bet very few of you knew. H 353 00:18:41,960 --> 00:18:47,359 Speaker 2: Cooper actually played defensive tackle for two or three snaps 354 00:18:47,440 --> 00:18:52,720 Speaker 2: last year last year, last year. How'd that come to be? 355 00:18:52,840 --> 00:18:56,320 Speaker 2: And what and how would you describe the experience of 356 00:18:56,359 --> 00:18:59,720 Speaker 2: being a two way player? Now this is the offensive 357 00:18:59,840 --> 00:19:02,879 Speaker 2: one another year in the Big twelve, go in there. 358 00:19:03,040 --> 00:19:04,600 Speaker 2: We need you a nose tackle also. 359 00:19:05,520 --> 00:19:08,600 Speaker 4: Yeah, So you know, unfortunately, at that point in the season, 360 00:19:08,680 --> 00:19:10,440 Speaker 4: you know, we had a couple of nose tackles down 361 00:19:10,480 --> 00:19:13,119 Speaker 4: and obviously they knew, you know, I had played, you know, 362 00:19:13,200 --> 00:19:15,919 Speaker 4: defensive tackle and had experience there, and of course you know, 363 00:19:15,960 --> 00:19:18,040 Speaker 4: I'm a I'm a big body guy, and you know, 364 00:19:18,080 --> 00:19:20,639 Speaker 4: they needed somebody to plug up the middle, and you know, 365 00:19:20,920 --> 00:19:24,080 Speaker 4: Oro O line coach Connor Riley wasn't very happy about that, 366 00:19:24,240 --> 00:19:26,920 Speaker 4: but you know, coach Climeman need me to step in there, 367 00:19:26,920 --> 00:19:29,600 Speaker 4: and I will say we played Baylor. I have a 368 00:19:29,640 --> 00:19:32,360 Speaker 4: tackle for loss on my records. So you know, it's 369 00:19:32,359 --> 00:19:34,680 Speaker 4: like the the two way players right now. It would 370 00:19:34,680 --> 00:19:36,560 Speaker 4: have been like Travis Hunter and then probably me. 371 00:19:36,640 --> 00:19:39,159 Speaker 2: Right yeah, yeah, well, okay, he's pretty good to me. 372 00:19:39,280 --> 00:19:41,360 Speaker 4: Maybe a little bit farther down, but I'm on that way. 373 00:19:41,400 --> 00:19:45,439 Speaker 2: So I'll give you a homework assignment. Uh, I'm guessing 374 00:19:45,520 --> 00:19:47,440 Speaker 2: you probably don't know a lot about Mark two and a. 375 00:19:48,240 --> 00:19:50,800 Speaker 2: No ever heard the name. Yeah, I've heard it, Okay, Yeah, 376 00:19:50,840 --> 00:19:53,000 Speaker 2: so you do a little research on him. Mark two 377 00:19:53,080 --> 00:19:56,560 Speaker 2: and a. I'm gonna say nineteen eighty three. I think 378 00:19:56,600 --> 00:20:00,560 Speaker 2: that's right. I've been doing this for a while. Came 379 00:20:00,600 --> 00:20:06,320 Speaker 2: to the Cowboys as a rookie free agent defensive tackle 380 00:20:07,359 --> 00:20:11,040 Speaker 2: from Hawaii and made the team. And he was tough, 381 00:20:11,080 --> 00:20:17,320 Speaker 2: and at some point seven or eight years into it, 382 00:20:17,359 --> 00:20:21,199 Speaker 2: they needed an offensive lineman. He became a Pro Bowl 383 00:20:22,200 --> 00:20:28,439 Speaker 2: offensive tackle, made himself a Pro Bowl offensive tackle, and 384 00:20:28,640 --> 00:20:31,160 Speaker 2: was one of the key players on the Super Bowl 385 00:20:31,160 --> 00:20:34,440 Speaker 2: teams in the early nineties, and God rest his soul. 386 00:20:35,160 --> 00:20:38,879 Speaker 2: He passed several years ago, but he always told me 387 00:20:39,040 --> 00:20:46,200 Speaker 2: that he never stopped being a defensive player. In his heart. 388 00:20:46,520 --> 00:20:49,560 Speaker 2: He wished he could go back. They said, we need 389 00:20:49,600 --> 00:20:53,000 Speaker 2: you here, Fine, it's my job. I'd really like to 390 00:20:53,040 --> 00:20:55,960 Speaker 2: be over there. Is there any part of you that, 391 00:20:56,040 --> 00:21:01,040 Speaker 2: if it was feasible, you would walk in to coach 392 00:21:01,119 --> 00:21:03,919 Speaker 2: Zimmer and say, you know, if you just need someone 393 00:21:03,960 --> 00:21:06,160 Speaker 2: in the rotation, don't be shy. 394 00:21:07,480 --> 00:21:09,480 Speaker 4: You know, I think at this at this level, no, 395 00:21:09,920 --> 00:21:12,280 Speaker 4: I would. I love playing O line, you know, I 396 00:21:12,320 --> 00:21:15,040 Speaker 4: love what I do. And you know, every ever since 397 00:21:15,080 --> 00:21:17,119 Speaker 4: I got moved so I'm in college, I knew that 398 00:21:17,160 --> 00:21:19,199 Speaker 4: was probably my best shot in the NFL. And you know, 399 00:21:19,280 --> 00:21:21,400 Speaker 4: I embrace that. And you know, you don't. You don't 400 00:21:21,440 --> 00:21:23,639 Speaker 4: get much love. You usually get most of the hate. 401 00:21:23,680 --> 00:21:25,800 Speaker 4: And you know, I embrace that, and you know, that's 402 00:21:25,800 --> 00:21:27,399 Speaker 4: what I enjoy about being offensive lineman. 403 00:21:27,480 --> 00:21:30,320 Speaker 5: In what ways has being a defensive tackle in the 404 00:21:30,359 --> 00:21:32,480 Speaker 5: past helped you with the center position? 405 00:21:33,200 --> 00:21:34,720 Speaker 4: Yeah, So I think one of the biggest things is, 406 00:21:35,320 --> 00:21:37,680 Speaker 4: you know, when it comes to you know, just being 407 00:21:37,880 --> 00:21:40,199 Speaker 4: agile and being able to move. I think that's one 408 00:21:40,240 --> 00:21:42,560 Speaker 4: of the biggest, you know, facets of my game that 409 00:21:42,600 --> 00:21:44,480 Speaker 4: allows me to play center is just the way I 410 00:21:44,560 --> 00:21:47,679 Speaker 4: move in the footwork. And then also just understanding you 411 00:21:47,720 --> 00:21:50,399 Speaker 4: know what defensive tackles try to attack. You know how 412 00:21:50,640 --> 00:21:52,679 Speaker 4: how they play? You know, how do they attack your hands? 413 00:21:52,680 --> 00:21:54,080 Speaker 4: You know, how do they attack your leverage? And that 414 00:21:54,160 --> 00:21:56,000 Speaker 4: kind of thing helps me. You know, when I'm going 415 00:21:56,040 --> 00:21:58,520 Speaker 4: against other defensive tackles, know you know what they're going 416 00:21:58,600 --> 00:21:59,040 Speaker 4: to attack. 417 00:22:01,840 --> 00:22:05,520 Speaker 2: They told you on draft day, you said, get ready. 418 00:22:05,720 --> 00:22:08,960 Speaker 2: Nothing handed to you, but get ready. So you are 419 00:22:08,960 --> 00:22:14,520 Speaker 2: then immersed in that, right you spent the next several months. 420 00:22:16,400 --> 00:22:23,119 Speaker 2: When did it settle into you that I'm the center 421 00:22:23,160 --> 00:22:24,320 Speaker 2: for the Dallas Cowboys. 422 00:22:25,680 --> 00:22:28,840 Speaker 4: So yeah, so like midway through camp, you know, Coach 423 00:22:28,920 --> 00:22:31,480 Speaker 4: McCarthy brings me in, and of course, you know, I 424 00:22:31,520 --> 00:22:33,879 Speaker 4: get told, Hey, coach McCarthy wants to meet you one 425 00:22:33,920 --> 00:22:34,160 Speaker 4: on one. 426 00:22:34,800 --> 00:22:35,879 Speaker 2: Did you think you're gett cut? 427 00:22:36,040 --> 00:22:38,240 Speaker 4: I was like, oh, what I do wrong? You know, 428 00:22:38,280 --> 00:22:39,960 Speaker 4: I'm trying to figure out what I did wrong in 429 00:22:40,000 --> 00:22:41,400 Speaker 4: that kind of thing. And then you know, he brought 430 00:22:41,440 --> 00:22:43,280 Speaker 4: me in and it was like, hey, you know you're 431 00:22:43,320 --> 00:22:45,119 Speaker 4: gonna be our guy moving forward. 432 00:22:45,640 --> 00:22:48,560 Speaker 2: So that just by pardon me interrupting, just took folks 433 00:22:48,640 --> 00:22:51,399 Speaker 2: understand the first I'm going to say two weeks, you 434 00:22:51,440 --> 00:22:55,360 Speaker 2: can correct me. Rock Hoffman took the first team snaps, yes, 435 00:22:55,440 --> 00:22:58,440 Speaker 2: and you took the second team snaps and some guard yes. 436 00:22:58,760 --> 00:22:59,080 Speaker 4: Yes. 437 00:22:59,119 --> 00:23:01,200 Speaker 2: But then so now I calls you and he says 438 00:23:01,640 --> 00:23:02,200 Speaker 2: you're the guy. 439 00:23:02,520 --> 00:23:04,440 Speaker 4: Yeah, And you know, I didn't even know what to say. 440 00:23:04,920 --> 00:23:07,840 Speaker 4: I was so speechless, just to know, you know, I 441 00:23:07,960 --> 00:23:10,080 Speaker 4: never ever played the position, but I knew, you know, 442 00:23:10,119 --> 00:23:12,439 Speaker 4: I was gonna gonna work my tail off and you know, 443 00:23:12,520 --> 00:23:14,280 Speaker 4: do whatever it took to get on the field, and 444 00:23:14,640 --> 00:23:16,359 Speaker 4: you know, to tell me that I'm gonna be the 445 00:23:16,359 --> 00:23:18,639 Speaker 4: starting center of the Dallas Cowboys. Man, it was just 446 00:23:18,680 --> 00:23:20,520 Speaker 4: I was just speechless. I didn't know what to say. 447 00:23:20,560 --> 00:23:22,639 Speaker 4: And you can even ask him. I really kind of 448 00:23:22,680 --> 00:23:24,680 Speaker 4: just sat there and it was just thankful. I didn't 449 00:23:24,680 --> 00:23:25,560 Speaker 4: really know what to say. 450 00:23:25,760 --> 00:23:27,200 Speaker 2: I will ask him as a better off. 451 00:23:27,440 --> 00:23:29,159 Speaker 5: Who was the call that you made first to when 452 00:23:29,200 --> 00:23:30,200 Speaker 5: you found out the news? 453 00:23:30,359 --> 00:23:32,280 Speaker 4: Oh, I called first thing I did when I walk 454 00:23:32,320 --> 00:23:34,760 Speaker 4: out of there, I called my parents just to just 455 00:23:34,800 --> 00:23:36,600 Speaker 4: to tell them. You know, you know, they've been my 456 00:23:36,760 --> 00:23:39,800 Speaker 4: Like I said earlier, they've been my biggest support system, 457 00:23:39,920 --> 00:23:42,040 Speaker 4: and you know, they they definitely cried and when I 458 00:23:42,119 --> 00:23:44,800 Speaker 4: when I told him that, And you know, obviously as parents, 459 00:23:44,840 --> 00:23:47,000 Speaker 4: you know, you love to watch your kids succeed, and 460 00:23:47,080 --> 00:23:49,720 Speaker 4: especially at this level. You know, not many people get 461 00:23:49,720 --> 00:23:51,520 Speaker 4: to have a kid that's that plays in the NFL, 462 00:23:51,560 --> 00:23:53,800 Speaker 4: that's starting in the NFL, So you know, it's definitely 463 00:23:53,800 --> 00:23:54,720 Speaker 4: brought tears to their eyes. 464 00:23:54,840 --> 00:23:57,439 Speaker 5: When you were battling it out with bra Kauffman, I 465 00:23:57,480 --> 00:23:59,520 Speaker 5: know the competitor you are. I feel like I know 466 00:23:59,520 --> 00:24:02,360 Speaker 5: the answer to this, but I want to know, did 467 00:24:02,359 --> 00:24:05,160 Speaker 5: you ever doubt that you would win the starting job? 468 00:24:06,200 --> 00:24:09,439 Speaker 4: I think, honestly, early on there was some you know, 469 00:24:09,520 --> 00:24:12,639 Speaker 4: just because I was so far behind, just not knowing, 470 00:24:12,760 --> 00:24:15,159 Speaker 4: you know, how to really play this center position. So 471 00:24:15,560 --> 00:24:18,199 Speaker 4: I think early on, you know, was there was definitely 472 00:24:18,240 --> 00:24:20,720 Speaker 4: doubt there. You know, I think one of the biggest 473 00:24:20,720 --> 00:24:24,680 Speaker 4: things that kind of changed my mindset, you know, when 474 00:24:24,840 --> 00:24:26,840 Speaker 4: when I was with you know, at training camp. You know, 475 00:24:26,920 --> 00:24:29,640 Speaker 4: I had just been talking to Dak and of course, 476 00:24:29,680 --> 00:24:31,639 Speaker 4: you know, I'm the second guy at that point, and 477 00:24:31,840 --> 00:24:33,159 Speaker 4: you know, he said, hey, you just got to go 478 00:24:33,200 --> 00:24:36,080 Speaker 4: out there, you know, play with confidence and just be you. 479 00:24:36,080 --> 00:24:37,439 Speaker 4: You know, when he told me that he goes you 480 00:24:37,440 --> 00:24:39,440 Speaker 4: know what. Yeah, Like I was like, you know, I'm 481 00:24:39,440 --> 00:24:41,439 Speaker 4: just gonna be me. I'm gonna go out there, I'm 482 00:24:41,480 --> 00:24:43,480 Speaker 4: gonna do you know, do it whatever it takes. I'm 483 00:24:43,480 --> 00:24:46,119 Speaker 4: gonna you know, bust my butt to you know, every play. 484 00:24:46,200 --> 00:24:48,800 Speaker 4: And you know it turned out. You know, that's where 485 00:24:48,920 --> 00:24:51,000 Speaker 4: a lot of my confidence came from, just a simple hey, 486 00:24:51,080 --> 00:24:52,879 Speaker 4: go out there and be you. And you know, I 487 00:24:52,920 --> 00:24:54,320 Speaker 4: think that at that point, I was like, Okay, you 488 00:24:54,320 --> 00:24:56,639 Speaker 4: know I can really do this. And then obviously, you know, 489 00:24:56,960 --> 00:24:59,600 Speaker 4: going through training camp, you get comfortable, you know, with 490 00:24:59,600 --> 00:25:01,640 Speaker 4: with the do right across your face, and you kind 491 00:25:01,640 --> 00:25:03,359 Speaker 4: of get in the groove and then you kind of 492 00:25:03,359 --> 00:25:05,040 Speaker 4: figure out, Okay, I can do this. Especially when you 493 00:25:05,080 --> 00:25:08,000 Speaker 4: go into you know, preseason games and you're playing against 494 00:25:08,040 --> 00:25:09,840 Speaker 4: you know, other NFL talent, It's like, okay, you know 495 00:25:09,880 --> 00:25:11,960 Speaker 4: I belong here. You know I can play at this level. 496 00:25:12,080 --> 00:25:15,159 Speaker 4: So I'm early on, I definitely you know, doubted myself, 497 00:25:15,160 --> 00:25:17,080 Speaker 4: but there towards the end I knew I could you know, 498 00:25:17,119 --> 00:25:17,960 Speaker 4: compete at this level. 499 00:25:18,000 --> 00:25:19,560 Speaker 2: All right, when we come back, we got to take 500 00:25:19,600 --> 00:25:21,760 Speaker 2: a break. When we come back. This call that the 501 00:25:21,920 --> 00:25:24,159 Speaker 2: question that Nicole has asked you is I think it's 502 00:25:24,200 --> 00:25:26,720 Speaker 2: an important part of your makeup for people to understand 503 00:25:26,720 --> 00:25:31,359 Speaker 2: that competitiveness and how it has manifested and how it 504 00:25:31,400 --> 00:25:33,800 Speaker 2: may be manifests in other areas. I think it's an 505 00:25:33,840 --> 00:25:35,639 Speaker 2: important part of knowing Cooper Baby, don't you? 506 00:25:35,880 --> 00:25:36,360 Speaker 4: Absolutely? 507 00:25:36,400 --> 00:25:38,360 Speaker 2: All right? So we're gonna do that when we come 508 00:25:38,400 --> 00:25:41,119 Speaker 2: back the Cowboys Center. Cooper Baby's our guest on the 509 00:25:41,160 --> 00:25:46,200 Speaker 2: Cowboys Hour at Sidecar Social in Frisco at the Star Center, 510 00:25:46,280 --> 00:25:47,160 Speaker 2: and we'll be right back. 511 00:25:55,280 --> 00:27:14,600 Speaker 3: Oh cowboys as don't cowclos. 512 00:28:54,240 --> 00:28:59,080 Speaker 1: The Miller Lite Cowboys Albert supported by Albertson and broadcasting 513 00:28:59,120 --> 00:29:02,920 Speaker 1: live from SI Cars Social at the Star Infra Scoll. 514 00:29:03,840 --> 00:29:06,720 Speaker 5: All right, welcome back here. It's a Cowboys Hour at 515 00:29:06,840 --> 00:29:08,680 Speaker 5: Sidecar here in the Star. 516 00:29:09,000 --> 00:29:10,400 Speaker 4: Nicole Hudgson, Bradsham. 517 00:29:10,480 --> 00:29:14,120 Speaker 5: We got Cooper BB in the building and this segment 518 00:29:14,240 --> 00:29:16,680 Speaker 5: is brought to you by lu Casey. Stand tall while 519 00:29:16,680 --> 00:29:19,360 Speaker 5: you're tailgating or cheering in the stands with the Dallas 520 00:29:19,400 --> 00:29:23,480 Speaker 5: Cowboys Collection by Lucasey. Shop the collection today at lu 521 00:29:23,600 --> 00:29:27,520 Speaker 5: Casey six DFW locations or online at Lucasey dot com. 522 00:29:27,600 --> 00:29:28,320 Speaker 4: Lu Casey the. 523 00:29:28,280 --> 00:29:31,880 Speaker 5: Official boot of the Dallas Cowboys in Dallas Cowboys cheerleaders. 524 00:29:32,280 --> 00:29:34,800 Speaker 5: All right, Cooper, we were talking about the competitive nature 525 00:29:35,480 --> 00:29:37,960 Speaker 5: from you just where does it stem from. 526 00:29:37,960 --> 00:29:40,360 Speaker 4: Definitely stems from my family. You know, I grew up. 527 00:29:40,360 --> 00:29:42,600 Speaker 4: I have three brothers. I have two older, one younger, 528 00:29:43,120 --> 00:29:45,600 Speaker 4: and you know, it didn't matter what it was. We 529 00:29:45,600 --> 00:29:48,160 Speaker 4: were in you know, the driveway playing two on two basketball, 530 00:29:48,200 --> 00:29:50,719 Speaker 4: we were in the yard playing tackle football, and there 531 00:29:50,800 --> 00:29:53,560 Speaker 4: was always a competitiveness about us. You know, we were 532 00:29:53,560 --> 00:29:56,440 Speaker 4: always wanted, wanting to win, and it didn't matter what 533 00:29:56,520 --> 00:29:58,480 Speaker 4: it was. It could be something, you know, as simple 534 00:29:58,600 --> 00:30:01,120 Speaker 4: as you know, we could go bowling and turn into 535 00:30:01,200 --> 00:30:03,960 Speaker 4: you know, almost fights breaking out, we're so competitive. Or 536 00:30:04,360 --> 00:30:06,760 Speaker 4: you know, we'd go you know, mini golfing and you know, 537 00:30:06,920 --> 00:30:09,320 Speaker 4: if if somebody hit it, maybe double hit it. You know, 538 00:30:09,360 --> 00:30:11,440 Speaker 4: we were making sure the stroke counted and that kind 539 00:30:11,480 --> 00:30:13,840 Speaker 4: of thing. And I think it just stems from you know, 540 00:30:14,080 --> 00:30:17,000 Speaker 4: my family. You know, my my whole family's a sports family, 541 00:30:17,040 --> 00:30:19,040 Speaker 4: and you know we're big into that. And you know, 542 00:30:19,160 --> 00:30:21,680 Speaker 4: just growing up with brothers, you're always competing to win 543 00:30:21,720 --> 00:30:22,160 Speaker 4: for something. 544 00:30:22,360 --> 00:30:25,480 Speaker 2: Anybody have to repair plaster and all the. 545 00:30:25,440 --> 00:30:28,720 Speaker 4: Time, Yeah, we had. Luckily, my mom changed it to 546 00:30:29,000 --> 00:30:31,080 Speaker 4: a living room now, but we had an area and 547 00:30:31,120 --> 00:30:33,440 Speaker 4: it was just all an open open space that we 548 00:30:33,560 --> 00:30:36,000 Speaker 4: use to play and you know, we'd play like tackle 549 00:30:36,040 --> 00:30:38,160 Speaker 4: football on our knees and you know, people would get 550 00:30:38,160 --> 00:30:41,040 Speaker 4: tossed into into the wall in the house. Oh yeah, goodness, 551 00:30:41,080 --> 00:30:43,520 Speaker 4: we'd break. Like we still have picture frames that are 552 00:30:43,520 --> 00:30:46,240 Speaker 4: glued together because we broke them hitting them with balls 553 00:30:46,280 --> 00:30:48,520 Speaker 4: and that kind of thing. So there's a lot of 554 00:30:48,920 --> 00:30:50,320 Speaker 4: repairs at the Bby household. 555 00:30:50,400 --> 00:30:55,440 Speaker 2: You know, keeping in mind that we are going out 556 00:30:55,480 --> 00:30:57,920 Speaker 2: of the assumption that your parents are both watching this. 557 00:30:58,200 --> 00:31:00,000 Speaker 2: If they're not watching it live as we're doing it, 558 00:31:00,320 --> 00:31:04,920 Speaker 2: they'll be watching it very soon. So I'm gonna ask 559 00:31:05,040 --> 00:31:10,160 Speaker 2: you to I don't want to say psychoanalyze, it's too 560 00:31:10,200 --> 00:31:11,800 Speaker 2: strong a word, but I am going to ask you 561 00:31:11,840 --> 00:31:16,920 Speaker 2: to kind of think about your mom as the four 562 00:31:16,960 --> 00:31:18,840 Speaker 2: of you were. What's the birth order? 563 00:31:19,520 --> 00:31:22,480 Speaker 4: Uh so it's my oldest brother, Colton, my oldest brother calling, 564 00:31:22,560 --> 00:31:24,800 Speaker 4: and then then me and then my younger brother Camden. 565 00:31:25,920 --> 00:31:26,920 Speaker 2: What are their first names? 566 00:31:26,960 --> 00:31:28,840 Speaker 4: Your parents Tom and Tammer. 567 00:31:28,920 --> 00:31:30,520 Speaker 2: Where where did the seas come from? 568 00:31:30,920 --> 00:31:33,880 Speaker 4: So that's kind of a funny story. So the first two, 569 00:31:34,240 --> 00:31:37,760 Speaker 4: Colton and Colin, were just just happened to be, you know, 570 00:31:37,840 --> 00:31:40,760 Speaker 4: starting with season and coincidentally, they all have six letters 571 00:31:40,760 --> 00:31:44,240 Speaker 4: in their name. So then my parents, I came, now, 572 00:31:44,280 --> 00:31:46,080 Speaker 4: it's a game, we might as well keep it going. 573 00:31:46,240 --> 00:31:48,840 Speaker 4: So that's what we got Cooper and Camden. So the 574 00:31:48,840 --> 00:31:51,680 Speaker 4: first two were accidental and then we just kept it going. 575 00:31:53,160 --> 00:31:55,920 Speaker 4: That's what they tell me. Okay, all right, who knows 576 00:31:55,960 --> 00:31:59,000 Speaker 4: if there's true that parents. 577 00:31:58,240 --> 00:32:02,200 Speaker 2: Will tell their children a lot of things. Do you 578 00:32:02,480 --> 00:32:06,640 Speaker 2: think can Is there anything from your childhood that makes 579 00:32:06,640 --> 00:32:10,160 Speaker 2: you say that once upon a time your mother might 580 00:32:10,200 --> 00:32:12,760 Speaker 2: have wished that there had been a girl sprinkled in 581 00:32:12,800 --> 00:32:14,160 Speaker 2: there somewhere to help her out. 582 00:32:14,240 --> 00:32:16,360 Speaker 4: Oh. Absolutely, She'll tell you straight up she wish she 583 00:32:16,400 --> 00:32:19,840 Speaker 4: had a girl. No, yeah, no, she definitely said, you know, 584 00:32:19,880 --> 00:32:21,600 Speaker 4: she wish she would have had one girl, but you know, 585 00:32:21,680 --> 00:32:25,040 Speaker 4: she wouldn't change having four boys for anything. And you know, 586 00:32:25,120 --> 00:32:28,800 Speaker 4: I think, you know, she's just so blessed and so 587 00:32:28,840 --> 00:32:31,800 Speaker 4: grateful for all of us, and but yeah, she'll she'll 588 00:32:31,840 --> 00:32:33,280 Speaker 4: definitely if you ask her, she was like, yeah, I 589 00:32:33,280 --> 00:32:35,880 Speaker 4: wish one you were a girl, but you know, she 590 00:32:35,960 --> 00:32:37,200 Speaker 4: walked down and got four boys. 591 00:32:37,280 --> 00:32:40,880 Speaker 5: So aside from the competitiveness that your brothers have kind 592 00:32:40,880 --> 00:32:43,520 Speaker 5: of helped you with along with your family, what other 593 00:32:43,560 --> 00:32:44,800 Speaker 5: ways have they kind of pushed you? 594 00:32:45,960 --> 00:32:47,840 Speaker 4: Yeah, I think the biggest thing, you know, a lot 595 00:32:47,880 --> 00:32:50,200 Speaker 4: of it comes from my older brother. You know, he 596 00:32:50,240 --> 00:32:53,320 Speaker 4: played college football at Minnesota, and I think the biggest 597 00:32:53,320 --> 00:32:55,560 Speaker 4: thing he taught me is how to go about my 598 00:32:55,680 --> 00:32:59,080 Speaker 4: business and how to be you know, a high calibra athlete. 599 00:32:59,120 --> 00:33:04,000 Speaker 4: You know how much older is h Shoot, he's. 600 00:33:04,240 --> 00:33:06,000 Speaker 2: Probably sorry the questions we're supposed to get. 601 00:33:07,160 --> 00:33:09,920 Speaker 4: He's probably five six years older than I am. Okay, 602 00:33:10,480 --> 00:33:12,640 Speaker 4: but yeah, so he you know, he played at Minnesota 603 00:33:12,640 --> 00:33:14,760 Speaker 4: and he was the brother that you know, I looked 604 00:33:14,800 --> 00:33:16,600 Speaker 4: up to. I wanted to play you know, big time 605 00:33:16,680 --> 00:33:19,320 Speaker 4: college football and you know, here he was playing it, 606 00:33:19,360 --> 00:33:21,120 Speaker 4: and you know, he he taught me like the work 607 00:33:21,160 --> 00:33:23,560 Speaker 4: ethic and you know what it takes to be be 608 00:33:23,680 --> 00:33:25,840 Speaker 4: that kind of athlete. And I think that's you know, 609 00:33:25,920 --> 00:33:28,600 Speaker 4: something that's really you know, propelled my career to where 610 00:33:28,640 --> 00:33:30,760 Speaker 4: it is today. So you know, I'm really grateful for 611 00:33:30,840 --> 00:33:32,960 Speaker 4: him and instilling that and me and and how to 612 00:33:32,960 --> 00:33:35,720 Speaker 4: work hard because we definitely had you know, conversations when 613 00:33:35,720 --> 00:33:37,520 Speaker 4: I first got to k State, and you know, he'd 614 00:33:37,520 --> 00:33:40,080 Speaker 4: tell me like, hey, you know, on this point, like, hey, 615 00:33:40,120 --> 00:33:41,920 Speaker 4: you need you need to give more effort there or 616 00:33:41,920 --> 00:33:44,120 Speaker 4: in that kind of thing. And so he was pretty 617 00:33:44,120 --> 00:33:45,840 Speaker 4: critical of that, and you know, I took that to 618 00:33:45,960 --> 00:33:48,280 Speaker 4: heart and and I think that's really, you know, why 619 00:33:48,280 --> 00:33:49,520 Speaker 4: I've had the success I've had. 620 00:33:49,600 --> 00:33:51,280 Speaker 5: No how often do you get to see your brothers? 621 00:33:52,600 --> 00:33:56,680 Speaker 4: So they usually they'll be at at this game. But 622 00:33:56,920 --> 00:34:00,040 Speaker 4: you know, I see him every so often now. But 623 00:34:00,080 --> 00:34:02,280 Speaker 4: you know, we're always on the video games, chatting together 624 00:34:02,320 --> 00:34:04,000 Speaker 4: and that kind of thing. So that's kind of our 625 00:34:04,480 --> 00:34:06,960 Speaker 4: you know, family time on the video games. But you know, 626 00:34:07,040 --> 00:34:09,000 Speaker 4: I try to see him as often as I can. 627 00:34:09,400 --> 00:34:12,879 Speaker 2: Since you don't know how old Colton is the oldest one, yes, yeah, 628 00:34:13,000 --> 00:34:14,759 Speaker 2: since you don't know how old he is, taking a 629 00:34:14,800 --> 00:34:16,840 Speaker 2: guess at the age of the one in between you 630 00:34:16,920 --> 00:34:17,279 Speaker 2: and him. 631 00:34:18,080 --> 00:34:22,160 Speaker 4: Uh so, okay, let's see. So I think Colin is 632 00:34:23,040 --> 00:34:27,280 Speaker 4: four years older than me, So he's what twenty seven? 633 00:34:27,320 --> 00:34:27,600 Speaker 4: I think? 634 00:34:27,840 --> 00:34:28,440 Speaker 2: Don't ask me. 635 00:34:28,840 --> 00:34:30,560 Speaker 4: I don't know. I'm so I'm so bad at that 636 00:34:30,640 --> 00:34:32,279 Speaker 4: kind I was told there'd be no math. 637 00:34:32,360 --> 00:34:34,080 Speaker 2: I can't do any of this. I can't do any 638 00:34:34,120 --> 00:34:36,160 Speaker 2: of this. Did he play football too? 639 00:34:36,719 --> 00:34:38,560 Speaker 4: So he played in high school? You know, he he 640 00:34:38,560 --> 00:34:41,319 Speaker 4: didn't play in college. You know, he was you know, 641 00:34:41,360 --> 00:34:43,239 Speaker 4: I like to say the brains of the family. He's 642 00:34:43,280 --> 00:34:46,520 Speaker 4: an architectural engineer, so he got you know, he got 643 00:34:46,520 --> 00:34:49,520 Speaker 4: the brains of the family. But you know, to be fair, 644 00:34:49,560 --> 00:34:51,200 Speaker 4: if you ask my dad, you know, he was the 645 00:34:51,239 --> 00:34:54,000 Speaker 4: most naturally gifted athlete out of all of us. Your 646 00:34:54,080 --> 00:34:56,759 Speaker 4: dad was or no, brother Colin, okay, the one that 647 00:34:56,800 --> 00:34:59,160 Speaker 4: didn't put the only one that didn't play college football 648 00:34:59,320 --> 00:35:01,560 Speaker 4: was the naturally gifted out of all of us. 649 00:35:02,160 --> 00:35:04,160 Speaker 2: Hold on to that brains of the family. I'm gonna 650 00:35:04,160 --> 00:35:05,480 Speaker 2: get back to that in a minute. Your and your 651 00:35:05,520 --> 00:35:06,160 Speaker 2: younger brother. 652 00:35:07,120 --> 00:35:09,840 Speaker 4: Yeah, so he he he was at Case State. Unfortunately, 653 00:35:09,880 --> 00:35:11,400 Speaker 4: you know, he had a back injury so he had 654 00:35:11,400 --> 00:35:14,160 Speaker 4: to retire. But you know, he was playing college football 655 00:35:14,239 --> 00:35:14,600 Speaker 4: Case State. 656 00:35:14,760 --> 00:35:18,879 Speaker 2: So you say that your brother Colin, according to your dad, 657 00:35:19,040 --> 00:35:20,240 Speaker 2: is the brains of the outfit. 658 00:35:20,480 --> 00:35:21,560 Speaker 4: Yes, absolutely, But. 659 00:35:21,600 --> 00:35:23,440 Speaker 2: You're studying for your master's degree. 660 00:35:23,680 --> 00:35:27,160 Speaker 4: I am. Yeah. So, you know, went to Caseta and 661 00:35:27,200 --> 00:35:29,560 Speaker 4: I wanted to, you know, be a teacher, and you know, 662 00:35:29,840 --> 00:35:31,839 Speaker 4: people kind of were like, hey, why do you want 663 00:35:31,880 --> 00:35:33,279 Speaker 4: to do that, Like, you know, they don't make a 664 00:35:33,320 --> 00:35:35,640 Speaker 4: lot and that kind of thing. And you know, for me, 665 00:35:35,760 --> 00:35:38,160 Speaker 4: I always told told myself, you know, if if you 666 00:35:38,160 --> 00:35:40,160 Speaker 4: want to have a successful life, you got to make 667 00:35:40,239 --> 00:35:43,200 Speaker 4: an impact in people's lives. And you know, I had 668 00:35:43,200 --> 00:35:45,040 Speaker 4: a lot of teachers growing up that you know, I 669 00:35:45,040 --> 00:35:47,920 Speaker 4: wouldn't be here without them, and you know, I wanted 670 00:35:47,920 --> 00:35:49,799 Speaker 4: to return that favor. And you know, when I was 671 00:35:49,800 --> 00:35:52,760 Speaker 4: done playing football, I wanted to go coach high school 672 00:35:52,800 --> 00:35:57,400 Speaker 4: and coach football. So now, yeah, I got studying for 673 00:35:57,560 --> 00:36:00,000 Speaker 4: my master's degree in education, and you know, I'm hope 674 00:36:00,080 --> 00:36:02,319 Speaker 4: and to continue that here in the off season, and 675 00:36:02,360 --> 00:36:05,120 Speaker 4: your bachelor's is in a secondary education. 676 00:36:05,840 --> 00:36:09,040 Speaker 2: That's a very Kansas value, I think, don't you you 677 00:36:09,040 --> 00:36:11,759 Speaker 2: know that I want to I want to give back. 678 00:36:11,800 --> 00:36:13,680 Speaker 2: I wanted I wanted to be a mentor and that 679 00:36:13,760 --> 00:36:14,400 Speaker 2: kind of thing. 680 00:36:14,360 --> 00:36:19,560 Speaker 5: Absolutely absolutely as kids. Yeah, yeah, do you ever see. 681 00:36:20,880 --> 00:36:20,920 Speaker 3: I? 682 00:36:21,560 --> 00:36:24,160 Speaker 4: I would think so. I think I'm a very you know, 683 00:36:24,320 --> 00:36:25,520 Speaker 4: fun dude to be around. 684 00:36:25,719 --> 00:36:29,040 Speaker 5: So do you ever see yourself or this off season 685 00:36:29,080 --> 00:36:32,000 Speaker 5: maybe possibly going to help out some other schools in 686 00:36:32,000 --> 00:36:32,400 Speaker 5: the area. 687 00:36:32,719 --> 00:36:34,880 Speaker 4: Oh yeah, I could absolutely see that. You know, like 688 00:36:34,920 --> 00:36:37,160 Speaker 4: I said, I love to give back, and you know, 689 00:36:37,200 --> 00:36:39,680 Speaker 4: there's there's so many people that have have given in 690 00:36:39,680 --> 00:36:41,960 Speaker 4: to me in order me to be here, and you know, 691 00:36:42,440 --> 00:36:43,960 Speaker 4: I'm not a huge you know, I got a huge 692 00:36:44,000 --> 00:36:45,879 Speaker 4: platforms to just to be able to give back something 693 00:36:45,880 --> 00:36:46,640 Speaker 4: I definitely want to do. 694 00:36:46,800 --> 00:36:50,319 Speaker 2: It's interesting that you were thinking. It's interesting to me 695 00:36:50,400 --> 00:36:54,399 Speaker 2: anyway that you're thinking about down the road, about being 696 00:36:54,760 --> 00:36:59,800 Speaker 2: being a teacher and being a coach. Do you for 697 00:37:00,160 --> 00:37:04,520 Speaker 2: see that that might change at all? If you are 698 00:37:04,520 --> 00:37:07,960 Speaker 2: fortunate enough to stay healthy and have the kind of 699 00:37:08,000 --> 00:37:10,680 Speaker 2: career you and everyone else expects you to have, you 700 00:37:10,680 --> 00:37:13,440 Speaker 2: could you could play you know, ten twelve years at 701 00:37:13,480 --> 00:37:14,400 Speaker 2: a very high level. 702 00:37:14,880 --> 00:37:16,839 Speaker 4: Yeah, I think, you know, I've definitely thought it, thought 703 00:37:16,840 --> 00:37:19,759 Speaker 4: about that. I think, you know, maybe if I you know, 704 00:37:19,840 --> 00:37:22,600 Speaker 4: I'm fortunate enough to play that long, maybe not full 705 00:37:22,680 --> 00:37:25,360 Speaker 4: time teach, but substitute teach, and I still want to coach, 706 00:37:25,680 --> 00:37:27,600 Speaker 4: you know, I think that's a great way to give 707 00:37:27,600 --> 00:37:30,279 Speaker 4: back to kids, especially you know, the knowledge that I've 708 00:37:30,280 --> 00:37:33,279 Speaker 4: acquired through you know, throughout the years, and I still 709 00:37:33,320 --> 00:37:35,360 Speaker 4: want to give back at some aspects. You know, I 710 00:37:35,360 --> 00:37:37,520 Speaker 4: don't want to just sit around and do nothing, So 711 00:37:38,239 --> 00:37:40,520 Speaker 4: you know, I definitely see myself, you know, maybe substitute 712 00:37:40,520 --> 00:37:41,240 Speaker 4: teaching and coaching. 713 00:37:41,440 --> 00:37:44,600 Speaker 5: Is there one teacher coach that played a pivotal role 714 00:37:44,640 --> 00:37:46,240 Speaker 5: in who you are today as you can remember. 715 00:37:46,440 --> 00:37:49,400 Speaker 4: Yeah, so his name is mister Brunball. You know, he 716 00:37:49,480 --> 00:37:52,520 Speaker 4: was actually our shop teacher, and you know, you know 717 00:37:52,600 --> 00:37:55,360 Speaker 4: he was he was a great family friend of ours, 718 00:37:55,600 --> 00:37:58,160 Speaker 4: and you know, he he you know, had a huge 719 00:37:58,280 --> 00:38:01,520 Speaker 4: impact just you know, getting getting me mentally right, you know, 720 00:38:01,640 --> 00:38:04,600 Speaker 4: to take that next step into college life. You know, 721 00:38:04,680 --> 00:38:07,160 Speaker 4: I really wasn't sure what I wanted to do with 722 00:38:07,600 --> 00:38:10,239 Speaker 4: my life, and I wasn't really I was just kind 723 00:38:10,239 --> 00:38:12,040 Speaker 4: of there. I was just kind of good taking the 724 00:38:12,080 --> 00:38:14,120 Speaker 4: classes they told me to take and that kind of thing. 725 00:38:14,200 --> 00:38:16,440 Speaker 4: And you know, he kind of put me on the 726 00:38:16,480 --> 00:38:18,799 Speaker 4: teaching path and kind of talked about you know, hey, 727 00:38:18,840 --> 00:38:20,400 Speaker 4: you know because I asked him, I was like, hey, 728 00:38:20,440 --> 00:38:22,439 Speaker 4: why do you enjoy teaching? He said, you know, there's 729 00:38:22,480 --> 00:38:25,040 Speaker 4: nothing better to make an impact on kids' lives. And 730 00:38:25,080 --> 00:38:26,880 Speaker 4: you know that that really hit home with me. And 731 00:38:27,360 --> 00:38:29,480 Speaker 4: you know, he was the one, the one teacher always 732 00:38:29,520 --> 00:38:31,600 Speaker 4: came you know, I came early to school to see 733 00:38:31,680 --> 00:38:33,520 Speaker 4: to hang out with and you know, every time, you know, 734 00:38:33,520 --> 00:38:35,319 Speaker 4: we had the high school game, he was always there, 735 00:38:35,440 --> 00:38:37,560 Speaker 4: you know, cheer cheering me on. So he had a 736 00:38:37,600 --> 00:38:40,280 Speaker 4: huge impact in my life, and you know I wanted 737 00:38:40,320 --> 00:38:40,919 Speaker 4: to be like him. 738 00:38:41,040 --> 00:38:45,920 Speaker 2: You're a dad gumb Hallmark movie right now. Was school easy? 739 00:38:47,880 --> 00:38:50,480 Speaker 4: Yeah, other than you know, maybe the occasional you know, 740 00:38:50,520 --> 00:38:53,960 Speaker 4: physics class. For me, you know, I was a pretty 741 00:38:53,960 --> 00:38:57,520 Speaker 4: bright guy, so it came pretty easy to me. You know, 742 00:38:57,560 --> 00:39:00,440 Speaker 4: I was not this is gonna sound batter about it 743 00:39:00,480 --> 00:39:02,839 Speaker 4: to study very often. I you know, did really well 744 00:39:02,880 --> 00:39:04,680 Speaker 4: with with that kind of thing. So I you know, 745 00:39:04,760 --> 00:39:06,600 Speaker 4: class classes were pretty easy for me. 746 00:39:06,719 --> 00:39:09,440 Speaker 5: Physics was always the worst for the Yeah, terrible. Was 747 00:39:09,480 --> 00:39:12,520 Speaker 5: there a subject that you, I guess favored the most. 748 00:39:13,080 --> 00:39:16,040 Speaker 4: I love history, and that's why I became a social 749 00:39:16,080 --> 00:39:19,680 Speaker 4: studies teacher in college. I love the history aspect. I love, 750 00:39:19,800 --> 00:39:22,399 Speaker 4: you know, all the wars and seeing you know, how 751 00:39:22,440 --> 00:39:24,920 Speaker 4: we got got here today and you know what events 752 00:39:25,000 --> 00:39:27,640 Speaker 4: led up to that. And you know, I think history, 753 00:39:27,719 --> 00:39:29,560 Speaker 4: you know, tells a story, and you know I really 754 00:39:29,640 --> 00:39:32,040 Speaker 4: enjoyed that. And that's, you know why I decided to 755 00:39:32,040 --> 00:39:33,360 Speaker 4: study social studies in college. 756 00:39:33,440 --> 00:39:35,040 Speaker 5: That's a lot of reading, too. Do you read a 757 00:39:35,080 --> 00:39:35,960 Speaker 5: lot in your off time? 758 00:39:36,680 --> 00:39:39,640 Speaker 4: I I don't. I don't as much anymore I did 759 00:39:39,680 --> 00:39:40,800 Speaker 4: in college. All the time. 760 00:39:41,520 --> 00:39:43,000 Speaker 2: You got all the video games to play with you 761 00:39:43,480 --> 00:39:45,920 Speaker 2: exactly well, and now too. 762 00:39:46,239 --> 00:39:48,160 Speaker 4: You know, there's a lot of documentaries and stuff like 763 00:39:48,200 --> 00:39:50,239 Speaker 4: that out there, so you could just watch instead of 764 00:39:50,280 --> 00:39:52,920 Speaker 4: reading nowadays. And that was you know, me and my 765 00:39:53,000 --> 00:39:56,600 Speaker 4: roommate in college, his name is Jayce Freesing. We'd sit 766 00:39:56,640 --> 00:39:58,680 Speaker 4: in the living room and you know, be watching you know, 767 00:39:58,680 --> 00:40:01,600 Speaker 4: World War two documentaries, that kind of thing. And you know, 768 00:40:01,680 --> 00:40:04,080 Speaker 4: all the other roommates thought we were laying but that's what 769 00:40:04,120 --> 00:40:06,680 Speaker 4: we enjoyed doing. And you know, like when we when 770 00:40:06,719 --> 00:40:08,879 Speaker 4: me and my family go on vacation, I love going 771 00:40:08,880 --> 00:40:11,759 Speaker 4: to museums. I love kind of seeing historical sites. You know, 772 00:40:11,800 --> 00:40:13,759 Speaker 4: my other brothers don't enjoy that, but me and my 773 00:40:13,840 --> 00:40:17,160 Speaker 4: parents do. So kind of a nerdy thing, but you 774 00:40:17,160 --> 00:40:18,160 Speaker 4: know it's something I love to do. 775 00:40:19,520 --> 00:40:21,399 Speaker 2: Who else recruited you besides k State? 776 00:40:22,200 --> 00:40:25,920 Speaker 4: So yeah, Minnesota recruited me. In Kansas recruited me. So 777 00:40:26,080 --> 00:40:28,919 Speaker 4: for me, you know, I grew up a K State fan. 778 00:40:29,239 --> 00:40:31,759 Speaker 4: You know, I wanted to stay close to home. Like 779 00:40:31,800 --> 00:40:34,040 Speaker 4: I said, you know, my parents were the biggest support system. 780 00:40:34,120 --> 00:40:36,239 Speaker 4: And you know, Manhattan was only an hour and a 781 00:40:36,239 --> 00:40:38,600 Speaker 4: half away, and I saw how tough it was for 782 00:40:38,680 --> 00:40:40,600 Speaker 4: my parents to get to the Minnesota games for my 783 00:40:40,640 --> 00:40:42,839 Speaker 4: older brother. So I told myself, you know, I'm gonna 784 00:40:42,840 --> 00:40:46,120 Speaker 4: stay close, and you know, fortunate enough, k State off 785 00:40:46,560 --> 00:40:48,799 Speaker 4: offered me and I jumped on it right away. You know, 786 00:40:48,840 --> 00:40:52,560 Speaker 4: I was the first in my recruiting class to commit. 787 00:40:52,640 --> 00:40:53,879 Speaker 4: And you know I never looked back. 788 00:40:54,040 --> 00:40:57,760 Speaker 2: What you said before about the difference between Kansas and Missouri. 789 00:40:58,400 --> 00:41:00,640 Speaker 2: Could we apply that to Manhaffan than Lawrence. 790 00:41:01,480 --> 00:41:06,360 Speaker 4: Yes, I think it's definitely two different aspects of the 791 00:41:06,360 --> 00:41:09,879 Speaker 4: state of Kansas. You know, obviously, you know Case State, 792 00:41:09,920 --> 00:41:13,440 Speaker 4: it's a big agricultural school. You get a lot of 793 00:41:13,480 --> 00:41:17,400 Speaker 4: the you know, blue collar farmer, agriculture type guys, and 794 00:41:17,440 --> 00:41:20,200 Speaker 4: then you know Lawrence, you get all the city people. 795 00:41:20,400 --> 00:41:23,279 Speaker 4: So which I'm not saying anything back because I was 796 00:41:23,280 --> 00:41:25,040 Speaker 4: a city guy who lived in Kansas City. But you know, 797 00:41:25,080 --> 00:41:28,880 Speaker 4: it's definitely two different Kansas. Oh absolutely, Okay. 798 00:41:29,080 --> 00:41:30,680 Speaker 2: Not the same thing as Kansas City business. 799 00:41:30,719 --> 00:41:32,239 Speaker 4: Not the same thing, not at all. 800 00:41:32,680 --> 00:41:34,719 Speaker 2: I know some of you here at Sidecar Social have 801 00:41:34,840 --> 00:41:37,080 Speaker 2: questions for Cooper Babe, and we're gonna take some of 802 00:41:37,120 --> 00:41:39,920 Speaker 2: those when we come back. Delighted to have the Cowboys 803 00:41:39,960 --> 00:41:42,319 Speaker 2: center with us tonight and we'll be back at Side 804 00:41:42,400 --> 00:41:47,440 Speaker 2: Cars Social at the Star District in Frisco. Right after this, Hey. 805 00:41:47,200 --> 00:43:27,160 Speaker 6: Cowboys, cow Boys. 806 00:42:57,080 --> 00:43:13,800 Speaker 3: Cos No Cowboys. 807 00:44:49,560 --> 00:44:53,600 Speaker 1: To the Miller Lite Cowboys Out, supported by Albertson and 808 00:44:53,800 --> 00:44:59,800 Speaker 1: broadcasting live from Sidecars Social at the Star in Frisco. 809 00:45:00,000 --> 00:45:02,120 Speaker 2: Well there we go. Welcome back to the Cowboys Hour, 810 00:45:02,160 --> 00:45:06,680 Speaker 2: Brad Sham Nicole Hutchinson our very special guest Cowboys Center 811 00:45:06,760 --> 00:45:16,880 Speaker 2: Cooper Bebe self described nerd. What other sports did you play? 812 00:45:18,360 --> 00:45:20,440 Speaker 4: Yeah? So growing up, you know, I kind of did 813 00:45:20,440 --> 00:45:23,719 Speaker 4: it all. I played soccer, played basketballayed soccer when I 814 00:45:23,760 --> 00:45:25,440 Speaker 4: was little. Yeah, you know. 815 00:45:25,560 --> 00:45:26,759 Speaker 2: Were you a nimble little guy? 816 00:45:27,600 --> 00:45:29,239 Speaker 4: You know you could say that. I guess. You know, 817 00:45:29,280 --> 00:45:31,319 Speaker 4: they put me in goalies. I think that tells you. 818 00:45:31,719 --> 00:45:33,680 Speaker 2: All right, okay, all right, very good. 819 00:45:33,520 --> 00:45:36,080 Speaker 4: Which any I was pretty good at. So yeah, So 820 00:45:36,160 --> 00:45:39,960 Speaker 4: then I played basketball, I played baseball, We did track. 821 00:45:40,400 --> 00:45:42,200 Speaker 4: I love to throw the shot put and you know, 822 00:45:42,440 --> 00:45:43,879 Speaker 4: that was something I really enjoyed doing. 823 00:45:44,000 --> 00:45:48,520 Speaker 2: What other sport would if you could give yourself equal 824 00:45:48,560 --> 00:45:51,400 Speaker 2: ability in any other sport to the ability that you 825 00:45:51,440 --> 00:45:53,799 Speaker 2: have in football, not taking away because you can still 826 00:45:53,840 --> 00:45:55,839 Speaker 2: make that as a choice, but if you could give 827 00:45:55,880 --> 00:45:59,080 Speaker 2: yourself equal ability in any other sport, what would it be. 828 00:45:59,760 --> 00:46:03,719 Speaker 4: I'd honestly probably go with golf if I was could 829 00:46:03,760 --> 00:46:06,520 Speaker 4: be good at golf. It's something I picked up in college. 830 00:46:06,640 --> 00:46:09,200 Speaker 4: I never really did and I really enjoy going out 831 00:46:09,200 --> 00:46:11,200 Speaker 4: and I'm not great at it, But if I had 832 00:46:11,239 --> 00:46:13,800 Speaker 4: the equal ability right now, I think golf would be 833 00:46:13,840 --> 00:46:15,399 Speaker 4: a a whole lot more fun. 834 00:46:15,560 --> 00:46:16,800 Speaker 2: How often do you play? 835 00:46:17,719 --> 00:46:20,360 Speaker 4: So in the offseason, shoot, I was going, you know, 836 00:46:20,600 --> 00:46:23,840 Speaker 4: twice three times a week. You know, I always you know, 837 00:46:23,960 --> 00:46:26,279 Speaker 4: like when i'd go back, you know, my dad and 838 00:46:26,320 --> 00:46:29,960 Speaker 4: my brothers would they play in a golf league on Thursdays, 839 00:46:29,960 --> 00:46:33,080 Speaker 4: So I'd go and join them on Thursdays and play 840 00:46:33,080 --> 00:46:35,279 Speaker 4: in their golf league. But you know, in my off time, 841 00:46:35,280 --> 00:46:37,919 Speaker 4: I tried to do as much golfling as I can. 842 00:46:38,719 --> 00:46:41,440 Speaker 4: I enjoy going out there, and it's kind of a 843 00:46:41,520 --> 00:46:43,520 Speaker 4: you know, breath of fresh air kind of get away 844 00:46:43,560 --> 00:46:46,360 Speaker 4: from you know, football, and you know, just enjoy yourself. 845 00:46:46,360 --> 00:46:49,640 Speaker 2: It's an insidious game, you know that, oh yeah, you 846 00:46:50,040 --> 00:46:56,319 Speaker 2: can hit you can hit seventy eight average to rotten shots, 847 00:46:56,920 --> 00:47:00,640 Speaker 2: and you'll be guaranteed to hit one sweet one perfectly. 848 00:47:00,760 --> 00:47:02,000 Speaker 4: That's what gets you coming back. 849 00:47:02,239 --> 00:47:04,160 Speaker 2: That's the one that's right in your veins. 850 00:47:04,280 --> 00:47:06,560 Speaker 4: That's why they keep getting they keep getting your money. 851 00:47:06,600 --> 00:47:09,080 Speaker 4: You have the one, the one good hole, and you're like, Okay, 852 00:47:09,160 --> 00:47:11,400 Speaker 4: maybe you know I can do this and I'm gonna 853 00:47:11,400 --> 00:47:12,440 Speaker 4: come back next week. 854 00:47:12,640 --> 00:47:14,120 Speaker 2: First one's free. You guys are. 855 00:47:14,040 --> 00:47:15,280 Speaker 5: Talking a whole different language. 856 00:47:16,560 --> 00:47:18,920 Speaker 2: No, well, I don't either, But there's a story behind ed. 857 00:47:18,960 --> 00:47:21,200 Speaker 2: We'll talk about that another time. Let's guess some questions 858 00:47:21,239 --> 00:47:22,240 Speaker 2: for Cooper from the audience. 859 00:47:22,280 --> 00:47:24,720 Speaker 4: Go ahead, good evening, Cooper. 860 00:47:25,560 --> 00:47:27,359 Speaker 7: My name is rambo Oh. 861 00:47:27,400 --> 00:47:28,560 Speaker 4: I like that. Thank you. 862 00:47:29,640 --> 00:47:31,480 Speaker 7: So we all try, for the most part, we all 863 00:47:31,520 --> 00:47:33,719 Speaker 7: try to be better than the person before us. 864 00:47:34,560 --> 00:47:36,839 Speaker 2: You had Frederick, you had be Audish before you. 865 00:47:37,760 --> 00:47:40,640 Speaker 7: What have you seen on film from them in the 866 00:47:40,719 --> 00:47:43,000 Speaker 7: past that you say, you know what, I'm going to 867 00:47:43,080 --> 00:47:46,040 Speaker 7: pick up some of these tips and pointers and become 868 00:47:46,080 --> 00:47:48,279 Speaker 7: a better person. What have you done or what do 869 00:47:48,320 --> 00:47:52,239 Speaker 7: you think needs to be done to go to the 870 00:47:52,280 --> 00:47:52,920 Speaker 7: next level. 871 00:47:53,520 --> 00:47:55,759 Speaker 4: That's a great question. Yeah. So when I actually, you know, 872 00:47:55,880 --> 00:47:59,160 Speaker 4: first first got drafted and got my iPad, you know, 873 00:47:59,200 --> 00:48:02,640 Speaker 4: Coach Sorio, coach you know set up you know where 874 00:48:02,640 --> 00:48:06,239 Speaker 4: I could see all of Frederick's film and that's one 875 00:48:06,239 --> 00:48:07,960 Speaker 4: of the dudes that I was the first center you 876 00:48:08,000 --> 00:48:11,560 Speaker 4: know I had ever watched and really yeah, yeah, absolutely, 877 00:48:11,600 --> 00:48:14,359 Speaker 4: and you know I'd go through his game by year 878 00:48:14,440 --> 00:48:17,200 Speaker 4: and and see him progress throughout, you know, his career. 879 00:48:17,239 --> 00:48:19,759 Speaker 4: And I think the biggest thing, you know, I kind 880 00:48:19,760 --> 00:48:21,840 Speaker 4: of take away from that is just how smart of 881 00:48:21,840 --> 00:48:24,640 Speaker 4: a player he was. He was tremendously smart, always put 882 00:48:24,719 --> 00:48:26,960 Speaker 4: himself in the right position, And you know, I think 883 00:48:26,960 --> 00:48:29,040 Speaker 4: that's where I'm trying to get to. Obviously, you know, 884 00:48:29,080 --> 00:48:31,960 Speaker 4: I'm new, you know, at center, so there's definitely tips 885 00:48:31,960 --> 00:48:34,239 Speaker 4: and tricks that I've learned from him. And you know, 886 00:48:34,320 --> 00:48:36,640 Speaker 4: I hope that at some point, you know, my career, 887 00:48:36,680 --> 00:48:38,759 Speaker 4: I can you know, meet him, you know, face to face. 888 00:48:38,920 --> 00:48:40,440 Speaker 2: So you didn't get a gene Starck Tolim when he 889 00:48:40,480 --> 00:48:41,000 Speaker 2: was in the camp. 890 00:48:41,080 --> 00:48:44,440 Speaker 4: I did not, unfortunately, but so hopefully, you know, at 891 00:48:44,440 --> 00:48:46,000 Speaker 4: some point I get a you know me talk to 892 00:48:46,080 --> 00:48:48,640 Speaker 4: him one on one and just pick his brain. You know, 893 00:48:48,719 --> 00:48:51,120 Speaker 4: like you said, you always, you know, there's always people 894 00:48:51,160 --> 00:48:53,239 Speaker 4: that do it before you that you want to learn from. 895 00:48:53,320 --> 00:48:55,000 Speaker 4: And you know who better to learn from than him? 896 00:48:55,000 --> 00:48:56,000 Speaker 2: Well, you know, all you got to do is tell 897 00:48:56,080 --> 00:48:59,040 Speaker 2: Zach Martin, you know that, right, like their their besties. Yeah, 898 00:48:59,239 --> 00:49:02,360 Speaker 2: So just make sure that you tell Zach when Travis 899 00:49:02,360 --> 00:49:06,160 Speaker 2: comes back, I need a half hour. Yeah, and make 900 00:49:06,200 --> 00:49:08,480 Speaker 2: sure I get that he is a phenomenal human being 901 00:49:08,840 --> 00:49:11,000 Speaker 2: and he'll change your life. And he's now devoting his 902 00:49:11,920 --> 00:49:17,120 Speaker 2: life basically to making things better for people. That's that's 903 00:49:17,160 --> 00:49:19,120 Speaker 2: a good role model to have. Corey. 904 00:49:19,160 --> 00:49:21,440 Speaker 4: Go ahead, here'd be my name is Corey. 905 00:49:22,239 --> 00:49:25,200 Speaker 8: Piggyback off rambout question, like with you playing the center 906 00:49:25,480 --> 00:49:29,279 Speaker 8: now and you playing officer of the guard in college, Like, 907 00:49:29,440 --> 00:49:33,120 Speaker 8: is there anyone like in today's NFL game or maybe 908 00:49:33,160 --> 00:49:35,680 Speaker 8: like in the past that you've like watched film that 909 00:49:35,719 --> 00:49:39,160 Speaker 8: you kind of want to take tips from just based 910 00:49:39,160 --> 00:49:40,600 Speaker 8: off the film that you want to are kind of 911 00:49:40,600 --> 00:49:41,759 Speaker 8: like modio game out there. 912 00:49:41,880 --> 00:49:44,160 Speaker 4: Yeah. Absolutely, I mean it's kind of a kind of 913 00:49:44,160 --> 00:49:46,799 Speaker 4: a funny story. And I told this in college. You know, 914 00:49:47,160 --> 00:49:49,000 Speaker 4: Zach Martin happened to be the guy that I watched 915 00:49:49,000 --> 00:49:51,600 Speaker 4: in college and and here we are playing together. So yeah, 916 00:49:51,680 --> 00:49:54,719 Speaker 4: Zach was the dude that I looked up to. I'm him. 917 00:49:54,840 --> 00:49:58,080 Speaker 4: Quentin Nelson was another guy I watched, Shack Mason at 918 00:49:58,080 --> 00:50:01,000 Speaker 4: the guard position, and you know, just taking from you know, 919 00:50:01,200 --> 00:50:04,439 Speaker 4: how how technically he sound. Zach was, And like I said, 920 00:50:04,480 --> 00:50:07,320 Speaker 4: how smart of a player. He was always very detailed 921 00:50:07,360 --> 00:50:09,840 Speaker 4: in his technique, his hands, and you know that's what 922 00:50:09,960 --> 00:50:11,799 Speaker 4: made him great. And you know, I try to take that, 923 00:50:11,920 --> 00:50:15,799 Speaker 4: incorporate in that in my game and also just the mentality, 924 00:50:15,880 --> 00:50:18,879 Speaker 4: you know, that aggressiveness and you know that that physicality 925 00:50:18,920 --> 00:50:20,879 Speaker 4: he played with. You know, I I I was trying 926 00:50:20,880 --> 00:50:23,239 Speaker 4: to incorporate my game. So it's kind of, you know, 927 00:50:23,360 --> 00:50:25,960 Speaker 4: kind of surreal that you know, some a dude I watched, 928 00:50:26,000 --> 00:50:27,640 Speaker 4: you know, in college, took a lot of tips from 929 00:50:27,719 --> 00:50:29,279 Speaker 4: I'm playing right next to How often? 930 00:50:30,520 --> 00:50:32,600 Speaker 5: How often did you watch watch Zach's film? 931 00:50:33,000 --> 00:50:35,880 Speaker 4: Oh? All the time. Yeah, we'd go I'd go up 932 00:50:35,920 --> 00:50:37,799 Speaker 4: with with our own line coach and you know, we 933 00:50:37,880 --> 00:50:40,080 Speaker 4: had access to NFL film and that kind of thing, 934 00:50:40,080 --> 00:50:41,879 Speaker 4: and we'd sit down there and watch it together, and 935 00:50:42,120 --> 00:50:44,200 Speaker 4: you know, I'd I'd pick up different things from him. 936 00:50:44,239 --> 00:50:46,120 Speaker 4: And so yeah, I watched I watched his film all 937 00:50:46,120 --> 00:50:48,359 Speaker 4: the time. And you know, I you know, I'm one 938 00:50:48,360 --> 00:50:50,640 Speaker 4: of those dudes when I watch you know, NFL games, 939 00:50:50,680 --> 00:50:52,880 Speaker 4: and I don't sit there and look at, you know, 940 00:50:52,920 --> 00:50:54,719 Speaker 4: the quarterback of that kind of thing. I'm watching the 941 00:50:54,719 --> 00:50:56,960 Speaker 4: old line play and you know, of course, you know 942 00:50:57,239 --> 00:50:59,200 Speaker 4: he always stands out, so he's always a fun one 943 00:50:59,239 --> 00:50:59,560 Speaker 4: to watch. 944 00:50:59,680 --> 00:51:02,960 Speaker 2: And the interesting thing about him being the guy you 945 00:51:03,040 --> 00:51:07,279 Speaker 2: looked at to me is at least the last year 946 00:51:07,320 --> 00:51:11,439 Speaker 2: were both left tackles. Yeah, right, And so when you're 947 00:51:11,760 --> 00:51:16,440 Speaker 2: you're watching Zach in college, it's a left tackle watching 948 00:51:16,480 --> 00:51:18,520 Speaker 2: a left tackle, right. 949 00:51:18,600 --> 00:51:19,200 Speaker 4: Yeah. Oh yeah? 950 00:51:19,280 --> 00:51:21,760 Speaker 2: Did and did you now at what point in college 951 00:51:21,800 --> 00:51:23,839 Speaker 2: did you kind of know you were going to get 952 00:51:23,840 --> 00:51:25,120 Speaker 2: a chance to play in the NFL. 953 00:51:25,880 --> 00:51:30,839 Speaker 4: So, I think it was probably my red shirt sophomore year, 954 00:51:31,400 --> 00:51:35,040 Speaker 4: was playing left tackle, was first team All Big Twelve, 955 00:51:36,120 --> 00:51:38,200 Speaker 4: and I think at that point I was kind of like, Okay, 956 00:51:38,239 --> 00:51:40,160 Speaker 4: you know, I think this could be a real possibility 957 00:51:40,200 --> 00:51:42,399 Speaker 4: for me. Then you know, of course, I move into 958 00:51:42,719 --> 00:51:45,840 Speaker 4: to guard for the past two years and you know, 959 00:51:45,920 --> 00:51:48,520 Speaker 4: become becoming an All American, and you know, that's where 960 00:51:48,520 --> 00:51:50,200 Speaker 4: it was like, okay, I can you know, I'm ready 961 00:51:50,200 --> 00:51:52,520 Speaker 4: for this. I can I can play at the NFL level, 962 00:51:52,560 --> 00:51:54,879 Speaker 4: And you know, that's kind of so that that year 963 00:51:54,920 --> 00:51:57,120 Speaker 4: when I became the first team All Big twelve left tackle, 964 00:51:57,160 --> 00:51:58,920 Speaker 4: I think that's kind of where my mind kind of 965 00:51:58,920 --> 00:52:00,759 Speaker 4: shifted to be like, Okay, you know, I got a 966 00:52:00,760 --> 00:52:02,000 Speaker 4: real shot at this did you. 967 00:52:02,080 --> 00:52:03,680 Speaker 2: Did you approach the game differently then? 968 00:52:04,960 --> 00:52:08,240 Speaker 4: I think I definitely, uh took a lot more time 969 00:52:08,360 --> 00:52:10,600 Speaker 4: in my study. I think is one of the big 970 00:52:10,640 --> 00:52:13,480 Speaker 4: things that I kind of, you know, I wanted to 971 00:52:13,520 --> 00:52:17,360 Speaker 4: be really detailed and and making sure that I, you know, 972 00:52:17,400 --> 00:52:19,279 Speaker 4: I knew who I was going up against that and 973 00:52:19,360 --> 00:52:22,040 Speaker 4: that thing, and and I think that's where you know, 974 00:52:22,360 --> 00:52:25,200 Speaker 4: my film study and stuff really picked up and allowed 975 00:52:25,200 --> 00:52:26,520 Speaker 4: me to be the player I am today. 976 00:52:26,640 --> 00:52:28,560 Speaker 5: I know it's only two weeks into the season, but 977 00:52:28,880 --> 00:52:31,279 Speaker 5: do you feel like you've met the expectations that you 978 00:52:31,400 --> 00:52:32,600 Speaker 5: had to start this season? 979 00:52:34,400 --> 00:52:38,320 Speaker 4: I I somewhat obviously, you know, just looking at myself. 980 00:52:38,360 --> 00:52:40,279 Speaker 4: You know, I'm pretty critical of myself. You know, there's 981 00:52:40,280 --> 00:52:44,000 Speaker 4: always more more to you know, improve on little things 982 00:52:44,040 --> 00:52:47,440 Speaker 4: like that. So you know, I'm pretty critical of myself. 983 00:52:47,520 --> 00:52:49,439 Speaker 4: But I think, you know, I'm off to a good star. 984 00:52:49,560 --> 00:52:51,520 Speaker 4: But I'm obviously looking to you know, I still got 985 00:52:51,520 --> 00:52:53,440 Speaker 4: a whole whole long ways to go and and a 986 00:52:53,440 --> 00:52:57,040 Speaker 4: lot to improve on. Hi the Ryan McKinney. 987 00:52:57,719 --> 00:53:01,440 Speaker 7: Based on what your successes have been so far, do 988 00:53:01,480 --> 00:53:04,480 Speaker 7: you think and what is your opinion how you feel 989 00:53:04,800 --> 00:53:07,680 Speaker 7: if your high school would name the stadium after. 990 00:53:07,520 --> 00:53:14,040 Speaker 4: You that's actually a great question, you know, honestly have 991 00:53:14,560 --> 00:53:17,600 Speaker 4: already no, but well, it's funny because one of my 992 00:53:17,840 --> 00:53:19,919 Speaker 4: you know, best friends, his mom's on the school board 993 00:53:19,920 --> 00:53:21,960 Speaker 4: and that kind of thing, and she always joked about. 994 00:53:21,760 --> 00:53:23,200 Speaker 2: That, so that's going to happen. 995 00:53:23,239 --> 00:53:25,040 Speaker 4: Okay, I don't know. I don't know about that, but 996 00:53:26,040 --> 00:53:28,440 Speaker 4: you know, I you know, it's something that's very fortunate that, 997 00:53:28,520 --> 00:53:30,719 Speaker 4: you know, there's not not a lot of I was 998 00:53:30,760 --> 00:53:33,160 Speaker 4: the first NFL player to ever come out of Piper 999 00:53:33,239 --> 00:53:36,520 Speaker 4: High School, and you know, we've only had three Division 1000 00:53:36,560 --> 00:53:39,200 Speaker 4: one caliber players come out there, and they're all in 1001 00:53:39,200 --> 00:53:43,040 Speaker 4: my family. So I don't know, I could definitely see it. 1002 00:53:43,080 --> 00:53:44,280 Speaker 4: I think that'd be really cool. 1003 00:53:44,880 --> 00:53:45,080 Speaker 3: You know. 1004 00:53:45,160 --> 00:53:47,480 Speaker 4: I think at some point they'll definitely ask me for 1005 00:53:47,520 --> 00:53:49,960 Speaker 4: some money, so I'll probably probably wait for that. And 1006 00:53:50,000 --> 00:53:51,919 Speaker 4: then I said, hey, maybe I'll give you some money 1007 00:53:51,920 --> 00:53:54,359 Speaker 4: if you, you know, rename your rename your stadium after 1008 00:53:54,520 --> 00:53:56,240 Speaker 4: maybe maybe a statue or something. 1009 00:53:56,280 --> 00:54:02,920 Speaker 2: I don't know, the subtle down the Piper, the Pirates, 1010 00:54:02,960 --> 00:54:05,640 Speaker 2: the Piper Pirates. Okay, all right, we've only got a 1011 00:54:05,640 --> 00:54:07,880 Speaker 2: couple of minutes left. Let's find out a couple more things. 1012 00:54:08,160 --> 00:54:09,560 Speaker 2: Thank you, all great questions. 1013 00:54:10,680 --> 00:54:14,000 Speaker 4: Do you cook? Oh no, I'm terrible and I stick 1014 00:54:14,120 --> 00:54:16,120 Speaker 4: to you know, things you can throw in the microwave, 1015 00:54:16,120 --> 00:54:18,520 Speaker 4: over the oven or the air fryer or. 1016 00:54:18,480 --> 00:54:21,040 Speaker 2: The air fryer. Okay, that's good. 1017 00:54:21,960 --> 00:54:26,480 Speaker 4: When does your mom cook? Yes, yeah, great cook. 1018 00:54:27,200 --> 00:54:30,200 Speaker 2: A husband and four sons, all football players. She got 1019 00:54:30,320 --> 00:54:31,000 Speaker 2: to be a great cook. 1020 00:54:32,560 --> 00:54:38,160 Speaker 4: So she's watching somewhat. All I'm saying is I ate it. 1021 00:54:38,200 --> 00:54:39,400 Speaker 4: But you know it was. 1022 00:54:41,200 --> 00:54:42,600 Speaker 2: Burning mom from Afar. 1023 00:54:43,120 --> 00:54:45,359 Speaker 4: What hey, I will say though, she kept us fan. 1024 00:54:45,480 --> 00:54:47,880 Speaker 4: You know, you don't get this size about without being fans. 1025 00:54:47,920 --> 00:54:52,000 Speaker 2: I'm all right, someone who is a great private chef 1026 00:54:52,520 --> 00:54:57,560 Speaker 2: is going to make you the meal that you dream of, 1027 00:54:58,920 --> 00:54:59,759 Speaker 2: your favorite meal. 1028 00:55:02,280 --> 00:55:03,960 Speaker 4: That's a great question. I think it would have to 1029 00:55:04,000 --> 00:55:13,000 Speaker 4: do some with shrimp. I love seafood grilled. I think, honestly, 1030 00:55:13,000 --> 00:55:16,000 Speaker 4: a good shrimp taco it's like some Colts Law, and 1031 00:55:16,040 --> 00:55:18,480 Speaker 4: that kind of thing would probably be my go to mail. Honestly, 1032 00:55:19,040 --> 00:55:22,000 Speaker 4: you know it's probably you know, you probably would assume 1033 00:55:22,080 --> 00:55:24,080 Speaker 4: like steak or something. But I love seafood and I 1034 00:55:24,120 --> 00:55:24,680 Speaker 4: love shrimp. 1035 00:55:25,560 --> 00:55:28,400 Speaker 2: It's a man of modest tastes. I think there's a 1036 00:55:28,400 --> 00:55:29,920 Speaker 2: lot to be said for that. All right, So the 1037 00:55:30,000 --> 00:55:34,640 Speaker 2: last thing is people can clearly tell you're just your outgoing, 1038 00:55:34,840 --> 00:55:38,680 Speaker 2: you're warm it and you're so competitive, and you play 1039 00:55:38,719 --> 00:55:42,759 Speaker 2: a nasty game that's very violent, and you can't be 1040 00:55:42,880 --> 00:55:46,560 Speaker 2: this nice when you're playing cetter. How do you how 1041 00:55:46,560 --> 00:55:48,200 Speaker 2: do we bridge that dichotomy? 1042 00:55:48,480 --> 00:55:51,640 Speaker 4: Yeah, there's definitely a switch that flips, you know, once 1043 00:55:51,680 --> 00:55:54,319 Speaker 4: I get on the football field, you know, it goes, 1044 00:55:54,400 --> 00:55:56,920 Speaker 4: it goes into work mode. You know, I know I 1045 00:55:56,960 --> 00:55:58,680 Speaker 4: got a job to do and I gotta do it 1046 00:55:58,719 --> 00:56:01,000 Speaker 4: in my the best of my ability. And you know, 1047 00:56:01,120 --> 00:56:03,759 Speaker 4: off the field, you know, the flip switch back off, 1048 00:56:03,800 --> 00:56:05,759 Speaker 4: and I'm just you know who I am, just you 1049 00:56:05,800 --> 00:56:08,480 Speaker 4: know what what my parents, you know, were always always 1050 00:56:08,520 --> 00:56:10,600 Speaker 4: you know, instilled in me to be humble and you know, 1051 00:56:10,680 --> 00:56:12,440 Speaker 4: be kind and that and that kind of thing. So 1052 00:56:12,480 --> 00:56:14,480 Speaker 4: that's who I am off the field. But you know, 1053 00:56:14,600 --> 00:56:16,279 Speaker 4: definitely when I step on the field and it's time 1054 00:56:16,320 --> 00:56:18,200 Speaker 4: to go to work, I put that nastiness on. 1055 00:56:18,440 --> 00:56:20,720 Speaker 5: What's been the best piece of advice that Zach Martin's 1056 00:56:20,719 --> 00:56:21,080 Speaker 5: given you. 1057 00:56:21,960 --> 00:56:24,920 Speaker 4: I think for him, it's just you know, be be 1058 00:56:25,040 --> 00:56:26,839 Speaker 4: who you know, don't try to be something you're not. 1059 00:56:27,320 --> 00:56:29,160 Speaker 4: And that was something, you know, like I said earlier, 1060 00:56:29,200 --> 00:56:31,480 Speaker 4: Dak mentioned to me too, it's you know, be who 1061 00:56:31,520 --> 00:56:33,360 Speaker 4: you are, you know you're here, You're here for a reason, 1062 00:56:33,400 --> 00:56:36,000 Speaker 4: I think was another big one. And just just be 1063 00:56:36,040 --> 00:56:37,960 Speaker 4: who you are, go out there, do your thing, and 1064 00:56:38,160 --> 00:56:38,920 Speaker 4: just be confident. 1065 00:56:39,120 --> 00:56:41,280 Speaker 2: And I think we can tell we like who Cooper 1066 00:56:41,320 --> 00:56:45,920 Speaker 2: bb is. Thanks for being with us. We will be 1067 00:56:46,000 --> 00:56:48,840 Speaker 2: back here next Monday Night with c. J. Goodwin on 1068 00:56:48,920 --> 00:56:50,040 Speaker 2: our next Cowboys Hour. 1069 00:56:51,440 --> 00:56:54,440 Speaker 1: This has been a production of Dallascowboys dot Com and 1070 00:56:54,560 --> 00:56:56,440 Speaker 1: the Dallas Cowboys Football Club.