WEBVTT - Two Jersey Js: Cheers to New Beginnings 

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<v Speaker 1>Hey everyone, it's Jackie Gilitschneider and Jen Fessler and we

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<v Speaker 1>are two Jersey Jays and happy almost New Years to everyone.

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<v Speaker 2>Be almost New Year's. I'm actually quite excited that we

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<v Speaker 2>are side by to twenty twenty four.

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<v Speaker 1>I am too, But why are you?

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<v Speaker 2>I mean, I think this very very hopeful for twenty

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<v Speaker 2>twenty five. It's been a hard year. I think it's

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<v Speaker 2>been a hard year for everyone. It's been a hard

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<v Speaker 2>year for our country. It's been not to start out

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<v Speaker 2>as Debbie Downer, but you know, it's been so divisive.

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<v Speaker 2>What's happening in Israel has plagued us both, I know,

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<v Speaker 2>and it's still happening all year. I'm hopeful for some

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<v Speaker 2>peace and some exciting change in the new year. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>I'm with you, but it hasn't all been bad. But yes,

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<v Speaker 2>I must say, as a Jewish woman, I have carried

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<v Speaker 2>a weight on my shoulders every single day. And not

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<v Speaker 2>not that the anti Semitism that's like destroying the world

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<v Speaker 2>right now has impacted me so greatly, but I think

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<v Speaker 2>living in a.

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<v Speaker 1>Town that has a hostage, so there's a hostage from

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<v Speaker 1>my town, and it's I think about that family all

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<v Speaker 1>the time, and I just I'm really sad. I'm sad

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<v Speaker 1>I think about you know, when I look at the

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<v Speaker 1>girls that are being held hostage, but they look like

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<v Speaker 1>the same as my daughter, you know, And it's really

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<v Speaker 1>hard to take myself out of that and say this

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<v Speaker 1>is about other people, because it's not like I'm is Israeli.

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<v Speaker 1>And it's just been hard. It's been hard to know

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<v Speaker 1>that's still happening every day. We haven't really spoken about

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<v Speaker 1>it a lot here, I know, because it's politically divisive,

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<v Speaker 1>which shouldn't be. I mean, there should be no political

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<v Speaker 1>divisiveness to the fact that like you support creating these

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<v Speaker 1>innocent hostages and.

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<v Speaker 2>That you're against anti Semitism, yeah, which is running rampant.

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<v Speaker 2>But anyway, for another time.

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<v Speaker 1>Yes, so let's talk New Year's because like it's here,

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<v Speaker 1>I know, what are you doing? What's your plan?

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<v Speaker 2>Well, actually, by the time that you guys are hearing this,

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<v Speaker 2>I'm going to be on a plane home from Mexico,

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<v Speaker 2>which I'm so excited about it.

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<v Speaker 1>That's nice. Get out of the snow weather a little bit.

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<v Speaker 1>It's so cold. I feel like it just went from

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<v Speaker 1>like summer to winter and now with the time change,

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<v Speaker 1>like it goes from if there's no afternoon, it's like

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<v Speaker 1>morning and then it's nighttime. You know. So I'm going

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<v Speaker 1>to nice bro, Yeah it will.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm going to celebrate on the day though, so going

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<v Speaker 2>to a friend's house. We're all going to be in

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<v Speaker 2>pj's and I'm going to bring over some black eyed peas,

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<v Speaker 2>which is a very Southern tradition. You have to eat

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<v Speaker 2>black eyed peas on the New Year. Poor good luck.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh. I love that. I went to a pajama party

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<v Speaker 1>at a friend's house the other day. We did a

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<v Speaker 1>cookie swop, Like everybody baked cookies and then we put

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<v Speaker 1>them all out. There was like twenty of us and

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<v Speaker 1>we put all the cookie platters out on a table

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<v Speaker 1>and everyone went around and took home like four of

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<v Speaker 1>everyone else's cookies for themselves. My kids. You loved it

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<v Speaker 1>and crazy. Yeah. So okay, So New Year's Eve, you're

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<v Speaker 1>gonna be in Mexico. New Year's Day, you'll be with

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<v Speaker 1>your friends. That's really nice.

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<v Speaker 2>I'll be flying home from Mexico, so I'll probably be

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<v Speaker 2>a little depressed, but then New Year's Day, I will

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<v Speaker 2>be with my friends.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, that's nice. That always feeds yourself. I love being

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<v Speaker 1>about your friends. I really prioritize my girlfriends. I love

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<v Speaker 1>I love being around them. It always makes me feel

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<v Speaker 1>good when I am with them. What about like lately

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<v Speaker 1>with you? I'm sorry, interpt.

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<v Speaker 2>I just I feel like lately, ever since like the show,

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<v Speaker 2>I just see you with your friends, like very often

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<v Speaker 2>on have prioritize them. It's since the show has been

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<v Speaker 2>on pause. It's a very different feel, right, It's like.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I'm I'm like, you know, I love the show

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<v Speaker 1>and I do hope that it keeps going. But in

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<v Speaker 1>the meantime, I'm like enjoying a little bit of the break,

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<v Speaker 1>right I am. I'm trying out new projects. I'm prioritizing friendships.

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<v Speaker 1>I really have extra time for my family. It's been nice. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>it's been good anyway. So you know, for many years,

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<v Speaker 1>Evan is not the partier than I am. I could

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<v Speaker 1>go out five nights a week, and he likes going

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<v Speaker 1>out about once a week, and then he's hit his

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<v Speaker 1>social max and he's busy. I mean, he works full time.

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<v Speaker 1>He's always with the kids at basketball, and he likes

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<v Speaker 1>to sit on the couch and he doesn't care. You know,

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<v Speaker 1>he's not ashamed of it. But he does like to

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<v Speaker 1>go out, like once a week, but that's his night out,

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<v Speaker 1>and that's fine. But New Year's we've got into this

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<v Speaker 1>routine of not doing anything. And I was okay with

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<v Speaker 1>that for a while, but now kind of feeling like,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, now one of my almost seventeen year olds

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<v Speaker 1>loves going out. So if he's gonna be out and

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<v Speaker 1>I have to wait up for him anyway, and I

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<v Speaker 1>probably have to pick him up, then I might as

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<v Speaker 1>well go out, right. So I don't know, we're trying

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<v Speaker 1>to decide now because we've, like for a decade, have

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<v Speaker 1>not done anything.

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<v Speaker 2>I don't love New Year's Eve and I don't love

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<v Speaker 2>going out, so both of those combined, I mean, Jeff

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<v Speaker 2>is it's always very surprising to people that know us

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<v Speaker 2>that Jeff is way more interested in going out at night.

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<v Speaker 1>Like, so maybe maybe I'll send Evan to your house

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<v Speaker 1>and you can hang on the cap at him. You know,

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<v Speaker 1>I love that, You know I love that Evan Goldschneider. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>he's a cutie. So let's see. So let's let's talk

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<v Speaker 1>about the year a little bit, so we are ready

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<v Speaker 1>at the top. You know, talked about some of the

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<v Speaker 1>ships and there's no denying there was shit, and on

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<v Speaker 1>both sides of the political aisle there were shits. Right.

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<v Speaker 1>That was ye, so divisive. I've never seen an election

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<v Speaker 1>like this in my life.

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<v Speaker 2>It's horrible. Process leading up to it was horrible. It's

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<v Speaker 2>I know that for some people they're they're still in morning.

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<v Speaker 2>Some people are thrilled penceil you ask, but divisive for sure.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I just hopeful. I mean like, it is what

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<v Speaker 1>it is, So there's no point in being thrilled, upset

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<v Speaker 1>whatever it is, what it is. Now let's see, right, yes,

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<v Speaker 1>now let's see. So, Jen, what was the best thing

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<v Speaker 1>that happened to you this year? Something good?

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<v Speaker 2>No, it's like you know you always as a mom,

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<v Speaker 2>I my first thought is always like I always feel

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<v Speaker 2>good when good things happen to my kids. Right, So

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<v Speaker 2>it's that And my therapist would probably say learn to separate,

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<v Speaker 2>probably very dysfunctional, But I think about my kids just

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<v Speaker 2>being having good things happened to them. Zach got into

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<v Speaker 2>law school, which is which is so exciting. Rachel moved

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<v Speaker 2>into the city, which she absolutely loves, and she's working

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<v Speaker 2>in pr and she loves that, and so those things

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<v Speaker 2>occur to me. But probably that's the wrong way of

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<v Speaker 2>thinking about it, right, Like, no.

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<v Speaker 1>Why being a mom is such an amazing part of

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<v Speaker 1>your life. And also like it's not just your kids

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<v Speaker 1>accomplishing them Like they're accomplishing this because they have a

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<v Speaker 1>support system behind them and because they know that you're there.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, don't take yourself out of your children's accomplishments.

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<v Speaker 2>I absolutely agree with that, But I like everything else,

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<v Speaker 2>you know, I want to have my own things going on,

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<v Speaker 2>and I think it's so helpful, especially for an empty nester.

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<v Speaker 2>So we've had a few really you know, fun things.

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<v Speaker 2>I mean, this podcast, well that happened last year.

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<v Speaker 1>But still but like we got renewed, We're yes, we

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<v Speaker 1>got nude. That was exciting.

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<v Speaker 2>I loved, I am loving having the segment that I'm

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<v Speaker 2>doing on page six. I don't know you guys, have

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<v Speaker 2>anyone's listening to it, but on page six I talk

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<v Speaker 2>about pop culture with Evan and Danny, Like that's been

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<v Speaker 2>really fun in a way to sort of separate out

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<v Speaker 2>of the housewives world. We don't discuss housewives, but we

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<v Speaker 2>discuss what's going on, you know, all around the world,

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<v Speaker 2>just pop culture, so nothing deep, and it's fun to

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<v Speaker 2>just sort of be still in front of the camera

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<v Speaker 2>a little. And but it's different dynamic, right, It's these

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<v Speaker 2>two fabulous men and we all love each other. It's

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<v Speaker 2>a big love fest and we laugh and we're a

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<v Speaker 2>little shady at times. But nothing that's going to get

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<v Speaker 2>me killed. So yeah, that's been really fun. What about you?

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, the best thing that happened to me this year.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't know. It was a tough year. I mean

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<v Speaker 1>I think just that, like this is going to sound

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<v Speaker 1>silly and cliche, but just that everyone is like healthy

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<v Speaker 1>and happy, you know, Like I just like nothing, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>I had a challenging year. So in January, Aiden, my

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<v Speaker 1>my one of my older twins, we were at the

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<v Speaker 1>Madonna concert the night that he broke his knee, mean right,

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<v Speaker 1>and he broke his knee, he broke his leg. He

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<v Speaker 1>had a horrific surgery. He was home for a month

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<v Speaker 1>after that. He was in so much pain. It was

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<v Speaker 1>I was crying, like all day. I slept. I had

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<v Speaker 1>slept in a bed with him downstairs because he couldn't

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<v Speaker 1>move and so he was immobile. So it was a

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<v Speaker 1>really hard month. And then I homeschooled him and then

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<v Speaker 1>he finally made his way back into sports by May,

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<v Speaker 1>and in July he broke his shoulder. So it's been

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<v Speaker 1>you know, like watching your kids suffer through something and

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<v Speaker 1>I know that you've been through this too. It's really hard,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, it's hard. Now that all my kids are

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<v Speaker 1>like healthy and doing well, I'm kind of like savoring

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<v Speaker 1>that part of it. Like the fact that I'm not

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<v Speaker 1>like said about it. I'm getting is a thing. I

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<v Speaker 1>get that.

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<v Speaker 2>What they don't tell you about having kids is that

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<v Speaker 2>you are always, at least for me, I'm even in

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<v Speaker 2>my happiest moments, I'm a little nervous, like I'm always

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<v Speaker 2>or you know, I'm thrilled when my kids are happy.

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<v Speaker 2>If they're not, it affects me. It's a very difficult.

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<v Speaker 2>You know, you have this part of yourself that you

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<v Speaker 2>have no control over, right, and you shouldn't. I mean,

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<v Speaker 2>the kids have to live their own lives. It's how

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<v Speaker 2>you raise them. But you're always sort of just a.

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<v Speaker 1>Little bit on edge. Where are they what are they doing?

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<v Speaker 1>Are they good? Yeah? Especially now I two that are

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<v Speaker 1>gonna start driving soon, and I how do I do that?

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<v Speaker 1>Like I am said, I don't mind driving with them

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<v Speaker 1>and teaching them to drive and do it all the time.

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<v Speaker 1>But I'm so nervous for them to get their license. Yeah, nervous,

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<v Speaker 1>it's not that is not easy. Yeah, there's so much that.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, I'm always worried because my daughter is a

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<v Speaker 1>chronic illness. You just type in my beads and that's

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<v Speaker 1>always kind of something that's you know, with me, I'm

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<v Speaker 1>thinking about.

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<v Speaker 2>And but then other stuff there. Yeah, when when both

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<v Speaker 2>my kids got their licenses, I was a nervous wrap.

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<v Speaker 2>I wouldn't even I couldn't be in the car with

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<v Speaker 2>them teaching them. So that was all about jeff. Oh,

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<v Speaker 2>I couldn't bear it. It was I freaked out, which

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<v Speaker 2>freaked them out. I just I had no.

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<v Speaker 1>But we also we haven't really been on many highways.

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<v Speaker 1>We haven't done anything super challenging. So that's the come

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<v Speaker 1>But okay, so what was the most challenging thing that

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<v Speaker 1>happened to you this year and how did you?

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<v Speaker 2>I would say that, well, actually, I've been looking at

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<v Speaker 2>these questions a little bit, and I would say that

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<v Speaker 2>it's challenging and rewarding to be an empty nester. I

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<v Speaker 2>know that again back to the kids, but there are

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<v Speaker 2>times where I've sort of walked around my house, and

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<v Speaker 2>especially with the show being on pause and and it's

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<v Speaker 2>trying to figure it all out. You know, I'm at

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<v Speaker 2>the age now fifty six and what does the rest

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<v Speaker 2>of my life look like. It's it's an interesting thing

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<v Speaker 2>to consider. And also like being in this house. I

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<v Speaker 2>mean this, I'm suburban New Jersey in this you know,

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<v Speaker 2>colonial with we're paying taxes for the schools, and like

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<v Speaker 2>what's the point?

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<v Speaker 1>So what are we? What is our next step?

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<v Speaker 2>So that's always on my mind and I think that

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<v Speaker 2>has been a challenge, but also it's been at times

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<v Speaker 2>of delight. My house is well not always need the

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<v Speaker 2>kids to come home a lot, but like you know,

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<v Speaker 2>just waking up jeff Lee's at six thirty every morning.

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<v Speaker 2>And there are days I'm really busy, and there are

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<v Speaker 2>days that I have nothing going on. The days that

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<v Speaker 2>I have nothing going on, I think I get in

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<v Speaker 2>a slump. I get a little depressed. And the days

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<v Speaker 2>that I'm yeah, but.

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<v Speaker 1>You had so much going on the other days, you

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<v Speaker 1>don't just savor those days. It's like I can relax today.

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<v Speaker 2>You know, I think it might seem like I have

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<v Speaker 2>so much going on, Like on social media, if you

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<v Speaker 2>follow myself for media, although I don't think I posted

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<v Speaker 2>that much recently, but I'm posting like events I'm going

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<v Speaker 2>to right and I'm I'm posting stuff that I'm doing,

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<v Speaker 2>which yeah, I mean that definitely takes time and keeps

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<v Speaker 2>me busy, but on a daily I'm not necessarily like

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<v Speaker 2>I do the page six thing. Once a week, you

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<v Speaker 2>and I record our podcast, you know, that's that's an

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<v Speaker 2>hour every couple weeks.

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<v Speaker 1>It's so I'm always.

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<v Speaker 2>Posting about those things or I'm going to an event,

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<v Speaker 2>or I'm but there's a lot of downtime for me

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<v Speaker 2>now without having the kids in the house, and you know,

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<v Speaker 2>I fill it with friends. And I actually knew this

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<v Speaker 2>year is working out, and but I'm always better when

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<v Speaker 2>I'm busier, when I've got something like my One of

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<v Speaker 2>my favorite times was when I was writing the song

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<v Speaker 2>when I was learning guitar and writing the song for

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<v Speaker 2>the end for the finale of the Housewives.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh yeah, that was a great song.

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<v Speaker 2>So that was one of my favorite things that happened

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<v Speaker 2>this year, was writing that silly song. That was just

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<v Speaker 2>I love doing that so much. It's so it was

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<v Speaker 2>so creative and it was I don't know. It was

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<v Speaker 2>so satisfying for me. And then, of course, in true

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<v Speaker 2>gen festal form, I didn't pick up the guitar again

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<v Speaker 2>when it was over.

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<v Speaker 1>So, but oh didn't you write Challenge Part two? Yeah?

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<v Speaker 1>But then yeah, that was pretty soon after. Oh okay, oh,

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<v Speaker 1>and you haven't written. You know, I play the piano

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<v Speaker 1>so and I know every time my house is empty,

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<v Speaker 1>I play. I can't play when people are home because really, yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>because they don't like the noise from it. But also,

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<v Speaker 1>like I don't know, they like make fun.

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<v Speaker 3>Of me, right, they make fun of me, to think

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<v Speaker 3>at my house they associate piano with like something I

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<v Speaker 3>forced them to do when they were little, and I

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<v Speaker 3>really just went back to it.

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<v Speaker 1>But I'm very good. I'd like, I want to get

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<v Speaker 1>a I want to get like a ten to twenty

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<v Speaker 1>song rotation that I can play just by heart. And

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<v Speaker 1>I want to I want to play in a band

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<v Speaker 1>one day. That's like a bucket list thing for me,

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<v Speaker 1>just for one day, just one night only, Jackie Goldschnighter,

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<v Speaker 1>one night only. I love that.

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<v Speaker 2>Playing a band, Yeah, I love that. So twenty twenty five, baby, yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>let's see, let's see.

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<v Speaker 1>I have a couple of projects that I want to

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<v Speaker 1>accomplish in twenty twenty five. But funny thing that happened

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<v Speaker 1>to you this year? I can't think. I don't know

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<v Speaker 1>any like I'm sure I have. I'm sure we're going

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<v Speaker 1>to sign off from this, and I'm that was the

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<v Speaker 1>funny thing that happened to me this year. I'm trying

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<v Speaker 1>to remember, Like I did laugh a lot this year,

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<v Speaker 1>but I don't know. I don't know if there was

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<v Speaker 1>anything particularly really funny.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, I went to Vietnam with Jeff this year, and

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<v Speaker 2>we laughed our way through that trip. Whether it was

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<v Speaker 2>we went on this uh these motor scooters what they called,

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<v Speaker 2>I don't know what they could pads, the mopads or

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<v Speaker 2>whatever it is, so we circle around them. I'm want

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<v Speaker 2>to say, was it in it's gone. I don't remember exactly,

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<v Speaker 2>but uh, we stopped off. The tour had a stopping off.

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<v Speaker 2>It was like a food tour, and we were so

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<v Speaker 2>sick to our stomachs by the time it ended. There

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<v Speaker 2>was so it went on for hours, and I just

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<v Speaker 2>remember like he and I trying to be so polite

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<v Speaker 2>to these tour guides and both of us being there's

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<v Speaker 2>just and you know, and being with him, just him,

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<v Speaker 2>would that far away. We always have were always able

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<v Speaker 2>to make fun of each other and laugh, and that

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<v Speaker 2>whole trip we were it was one of those like

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<v Speaker 2>moments in time where we were in awe of Vietnam

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<v Speaker 2>but also just hysterical the entire time. The culture is

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<v Speaker 2>so different than ours and you know, getting used to

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<v Speaker 2>that and being I don't know, on fishing boats and

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<v Speaker 2>we it was fun and we laughed a lot.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, probably traveling. Yeah, we went to we took the

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<v Speaker 1>kids to Europe the first time. We went to Italy.

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<v Speaker 1>We spent a week in Rome with the kids, and

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<v Speaker 1>it was just amazing. I am like, I was flabbergasted

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<v Speaker 1>by how many people watch the show that were in Rome.

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<v Speaker 1>I got stopped constantly, Like Vietnam, you watched the show,

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<v Speaker 1>especially people from like London, people from Canada. They love

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<v Speaker 1>these shows. They watch all of them. I don't think

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<v Speaker 1>I watched any shows from overseas.

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<v Speaker 2>It's true though, I remember when I was in in Rams,

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<v Speaker 2>I got stopped a couple times. Yeah, like in weird

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<v Speaker 2>places like shopping or whatever.

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<v Speaker 1>You're Worldwidefesla, I'm worldwide, baby. Let's fast forward just for

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<v Speaker 1>one second, since we're on the topic of shows, I

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<v Speaker 1>have to tell you I just watched a show. I'm

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<v Speaker 1>not going to ruin it obviously for anyone, and I

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<v Speaker 1>really liked it all the way through, and then my

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<v Speaker 1>mind was is freaking blown in the last episode. It's

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<v Speaker 1>called Disclaimer. Have you watched that? No with what's her name?

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<v Speaker 1>Oh god, that blonde actress. I'm blinking right now. That

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<v Speaker 1>was a hold on, let me remember hold on one second.

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<v Speaker 1>It was Kevin Kleine n Klein, the woman who's married

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<v Speaker 1>to Sean Penn, who's absolutely Robin Wright. No, no, she

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<v Speaker 1>was married to him a million years ago.

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<v Speaker 2>He's married Sean Penn. Now I thought he was just

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<v Speaker 2>new young Sorry, okay, yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>I think I think Leila George is married to Sean Penn.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh no, she was married to him for two years.

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<v Speaker 1>She's much much younger than him. She's absolutely stunning. It's

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<v Speaker 1>called Disclaimer. Okay, really good. The last episode really blew

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<v Speaker 1>me away. So watch it. If you haven't watched it,

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<v Speaker 1>watch it, well, absolutely watch it. This was I watched

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<v Speaker 1>a lot of TV this year. I have to say

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<v Speaker 1>I did a lot of TV. Did you watch that?

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, Well that's the thing is that like when I

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<v Speaker 2>am home and I have the day, I'm such a slug. Also,

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<v Speaker 2>so we talked about this, Jack, But like if I'm

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<v Speaker 2>home and I've got nothing going on, I'm in my

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<v Speaker 2>bed period.

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<v Speaker 1>Really, Oh I'm cleaning out clothes. People aren't, no way,

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<v Speaker 1>but I'm crazy. Yeah, well I'm crazy too, But I'm

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<v Speaker 1>crazy in the bed, and I well crazy in the bed.

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<v Speaker 1>You know. Well don't let's not be silly.

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<v Speaker 2>But I am streaming and eating and talking on the

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<v Speaker 2>phone and staring at the TV while I'm looking at

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<v Speaker 2>my other device whatever. But yeah, I stream a lot.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm very grateful for what.

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<v Speaker 1>Do you watch reality shows? Or do you watch because

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<v Speaker 1>I know people are always looking for like a show

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<v Speaker 1>to watch.

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<v Speaker 2>Yes, I definitely watch reality shows. So it's a lot

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<v Speaker 2>of that. So you know, we've talked about this. But

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<v Speaker 2>I don't know if you know this about me, But

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<v Speaker 2>I'm a Housewives junkie.

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<v Speaker 1>So you watch all of them?

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<v Speaker 2>I'm just kidding, but no, I do. I watch most

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<v Speaker 2>of them, not all of them, but I watch most

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<v Speaker 2>of them. Yeah, and I have watched New York this season.

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<v Speaker 2>I haven't. I need to watch Salt Lake City. I'm

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<v Speaker 2>behind on Beverly Hills just by like one episode. But

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<v Speaker 2>I've watched all the Potomac me too. I watched all

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<v Speaker 2>of Orange County. That was fantastic. Yep, yeah, I'm but yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>I gotta watch Salt Lake City.

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<v Speaker 1>I heard it's great, so well. Yeah.

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<v Speaker 2>So it's a lot of time spent on reality TV

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<v Speaker 2>for sure. And then Jeff is always suggesting something that

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<v Speaker 2>I don't know. We're always what do we just watch

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<v Speaker 2>My God Cross with Alex? The guy's name is Alex Cross.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh yeah, that's James Patterson.

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<v Speaker 2>Yes, yeah, yeah, which I loved until I didn't read

0:20:44.520 --> 0:20:45.120
<v Speaker 2>those books.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah. Watch. We watch a lot of House Hunters. We

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<v Speaker 1>love it. Play it like a game. Yeah, so like

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<v Speaker 1>we pause after they've seen all the houses. You know

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<v Speaker 1>how it works, right, like the real estate agent takes.

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<v Speaker 1>We only watched the international ones so we can like

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<v Speaker 1>fantasize about living somewhere else and not that New Jersey

0:21:03.320 --> 0:21:07.800
<v Speaker 1>is not like fabulous. But they they take the person

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<v Speaker 1>or couple to three different homes and then we pause

0:21:14.000 --> 0:21:17.359
<v Speaker 1>it and we bet which house they're gonna choose, and

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<v Speaker 1>it's so much fun. But it's like formulae, like one

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<v Speaker 1>person always wants to live in the city center, and

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<v Speaker 1>one person always wants to live in the suburbs, and

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<v Speaker 1>one person always wants to be by the water, and

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<v Speaker 1>one person always wants to be walking distance to the town.

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<v Speaker 1>You know. So it's like, but it's really fun and

0:21:33.480 --> 0:21:36.240
<v Speaker 1>it's mindless, and it's a half hour and it's easy.

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<v Speaker 1>It's all about the mindless TV. I mean, listen, and

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<v Speaker 1>we love Amazing Race. Actually, do you watch that? No,

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<v Speaker 1>we watch every season. We love it. I don't watch

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<v Speaker 1>HG TV only because it's on.

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<v Speaker 2>It runs on us in the Manic ever has it on?

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, and they have a subtitles? Yeah? Yeah? What about

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<v Speaker 1>what about movie anything? You know, I haven't seen that

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<v Speaker 1>many movies in the movie theater. I've watched a few

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<v Speaker 1>on airplanes that I was like, I watched that one

0:22:08.119 --> 0:22:09.840
<v Speaker 1>that we talked about a long time ago. We did

0:22:09.840 --> 0:22:14.720
<v Speaker 1>an episode you and I on what was the topic,

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<v Speaker 1>but it was we were talking about the Anne Hathaway movie.

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<v Speaker 1>Maybe it was Our Intimacy one or I don't remember,

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<v Speaker 1>but we were like, oh, it was about being middle

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<v Speaker 1>aged women and being sort of like the forgotten years,

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<v Speaker 1>you know. Yeah, And I watched that Anne Hathaway movie

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<v Speaker 1>where she falls in love with the lead in the

0:22:36.320 --> 0:22:41.760
<v Speaker 1>rock band and he's much younger than her. Yeah, and yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>I remember that. You were like, I loved that movie. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>I love The movie that I'm dying to see is like, no,

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<v Speaker 1>I'd like to give you. But every movie I'm dying

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<v Speaker 1>to see is like it's in the theater for like

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<v Speaker 1>a minute and then it's out, like it's just in

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<v Speaker 1>the city.

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<v Speaker 2>So I haven't discovered. I have rediscovered movie theaters this year.

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<v Speaker 1>I like them too, but I'm not going to travel

0:23:04.600 --> 0:23:07.320
<v Speaker 1>an hour for it. So we saw We went to

0:23:07.359 --> 0:23:12.960
<v Speaker 1>the premiere of that that Roadhouse one. That was good, fine,

0:23:13.200 --> 0:23:16.200
<v Speaker 1>you know. Me and my girlfriend went on a girl

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<v Speaker 1>date to see Beetlejuice and that was fine, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>But I don't think I've seen anything really mind blowing.

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<v Speaker 1>But I'm dying to see Honora. You know that movie Anora,

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<v Speaker 1>And I'm also dying to see I love a biopic,

0:23:31.160 --> 0:23:34.840
<v Speaker 1>and I'm dying to see the Timothy shallow May one

0:23:35.119 --> 0:23:38.960
<v Speaker 1>Bob Dylan. I'm not so really, I don't.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm not a huge Timothy shallow May fan, and I'm

0:23:41.280 --> 0:23:42.520
<v Speaker 2>not a huge Bob Dylan fan.

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<v Speaker 1>I'll see it. We'll say, well, I'm not either. But

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<v Speaker 1>my favorite movies of all time A lot of them

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<v Speaker 1>have been is it biopic or biopic? It's biopic, right,

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<v Speaker 1>I don't know. I don't know either.

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<v Speaker 2>I don't know, but I do love the ones, especially

0:23:56.760 --> 0:23:59.920
<v Speaker 2>when they're about musicians. I mean, yeah, so like John

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<v Speaker 2>Even was good.

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<v Speaker 1>We use my favorite and growing up, my favorite favorite

0:24:06.720 --> 0:24:09.359
<v Speaker 1>movie growing up was Great Balls of Fire. I loved

0:24:09.359 --> 0:24:13.960
<v Speaker 1>it so so hot. There's a scene in that movie

0:24:14.040 --> 0:24:16.400
<v Speaker 1>that still makes my hair stand up. It's like when

0:24:16.440 --> 0:24:19.199
<v Speaker 1>he's playing a whole lot of shaking going on and

0:24:19.240 --> 0:24:22.359
<v Speaker 1>the whole bar starts dancing. Oh my god, like scene

0:24:22.440 --> 0:24:23.600
<v Speaker 1>still think about.

0:24:23.359 --> 0:24:26.960
<v Speaker 2>If that movie was out now, okay, because what when when?

0:24:28.600 --> 0:24:31.760
<v Speaker 1>What's his name? Who? What's his name? No? Yeah, but

0:24:31.800 --> 0:24:34.560
<v Speaker 1>who what's his name? That he played Great Balls of Fires? Who? Oh?

0:24:34.680 --> 0:24:37.320
<v Speaker 1>Jerry Lee Lewis right, Jerry Lewis He married like a

0:24:37.320 --> 0:24:40.640
<v Speaker 1>thirteen year old or something, And like I don't remember

0:24:40.680 --> 0:24:44.800
<v Speaker 1>at the time even discussing that, like it wasn't even

0:24:45.280 --> 0:24:48.640
<v Speaker 1>right or even like in the nineties, like Jerry Seinfeld

0:24:48.680 --> 0:24:52.560
<v Speaker 1>was dating a seventeen year old Shawna. Yeah, I love

0:24:53.240 --> 0:24:56.800
<v Speaker 1>oh you could never although you do have Bill Belichick

0:24:56.880 --> 0:24:59.800
<v Speaker 1>dating like, Oh, I can't even with that, right, I mean,

0:24:59.800 --> 0:25:02.879
<v Speaker 1>it's just what's the appeal? I don't what, I don't know. Anyway,

0:25:02.880 --> 0:25:04.960
<v Speaker 1>we're going off on a tangent. But wait, I want

0:25:04.960 --> 0:25:07.159
<v Speaker 1>to talk about my favorite movie. Did you grow emotionally

0:25:07.240 --> 0:25:08.240
<v Speaker 1>this year? Wait?

0:25:08.440 --> 0:25:10.800
<v Speaker 2>I'm not fun talking about the movies because I want

0:25:10.840 --> 0:25:14.479
<v Speaker 2>to do it that I loved. I did love Wicked,

0:25:14.480 --> 0:25:16.800
<v Speaker 2>by the way, but but everybody, Oh, I didn't see

0:25:16.400 --> 0:25:19.040
<v Speaker 2>it amazing and we saw it at the IPIC, which

0:25:19.080 --> 0:25:23.159
<v Speaker 2>is like undercovers with the chicken fingers, and it was

0:25:23.200 --> 0:25:23.760
<v Speaker 2>just incredible.

0:25:23.800 --> 0:25:26.120
<v Speaker 1>But anyway, Oh, can I just tell you one thing

0:25:26.160 --> 0:25:29.480
<v Speaker 1>though that bothers me about Wicked is that Kristin Chenowith

0:25:29.600 --> 0:25:32.080
<v Speaker 1>used to like me and message. I used to talk

0:25:32.080 --> 0:25:35.040
<v Speaker 1>to her sometimes on Message and she followed me and

0:25:36.400 --> 0:25:39.000
<v Speaker 1>she doesn't like Teresa and so she has unfollowed me.

0:25:39.320 --> 0:25:42.959
<v Speaker 2>So I kind of that is heartbreaking. Although you do

0:25:43.040 --> 0:25:45.240
<v Speaker 2>know that Kristin chen well, she is in Wicked, she

0:25:45.320 --> 0:25:51.200
<v Speaker 2>is in this one, which was I understand that, and

0:25:51.280 --> 0:25:53.640
<v Speaker 2>I feel badly for you because I there's first of all,

0:25:53.640 --> 0:25:56.600
<v Speaker 2>Wicked was just unbelievable, but also I love me some

0:25:56.760 --> 0:25:58.920
<v Speaker 2>Kristin Chenow with I wish you hadn't told me that.

0:26:00.119 --> 0:26:04.520
<v Speaker 2>Now I'm sure she's lovely. I was Dimonzel, the very

0:26:04.560 --> 0:26:08.479
<v Speaker 2>minor friendship. Well this so the movie that I loved

0:26:08.800 --> 0:26:11.879
<v Speaker 2>was called A Real Pain and it was with Kieran

0:26:11.960 --> 0:26:19.199
<v Speaker 2>Coulkien and Jesse Eisenberg and it's about these cousins. I

0:26:19.200 --> 0:26:23.280
<v Speaker 2>don't want to give anything away, but they travel. Their

0:26:23.320 --> 0:26:28.960
<v Speaker 2>grandmother dies and so they travel. I'm going to get

0:26:28.960 --> 0:26:31.040
<v Speaker 2>this wrong, and it's so ridiculous. I want to say

0:26:31.040 --> 0:26:35.040
<v Speaker 2>they travel to I think it's Poland, right, Yeah, I

0:26:35.080 --> 0:26:36.920
<v Speaker 2>was going to say Germany. And it wasn't. Thank you, No,

0:26:37.040 --> 0:26:41.359
<v Speaker 2>I heard of it. It was really quite incredible, and

0:26:42.960 --> 0:26:48.600
<v Speaker 2>the acting in it was so superb over the top ridiculous.

0:26:48.920 --> 0:26:55.400
<v Speaker 2>Narent's the one who's in succession. Yes, correct, is unbelievable, unbelievable,

0:26:55.560 --> 0:26:57.800
<v Speaker 2>and he plays like this, this kind of a manic

0:26:58.720 --> 0:27:02.919
<v Speaker 2>young man, and Jesse Eisenberg plays this very uptight person

0:27:02.920 --> 0:27:05.520
<v Speaker 2>and they But the beautiful thing about it was it

0:27:05.560 --> 0:27:10.320
<v Speaker 2>was a lot about the Holocaust and finding their grandmother's

0:27:11.040 --> 0:27:14.720
<v Speaker 2>childhood home and talking about they I don't want to

0:27:14.720 --> 0:27:18.719
<v Speaker 2>give anything away, but it was so beautifully done. Really

0:27:18.960 --> 0:27:22.040
<v Speaker 2>haven't seen a movie like that where I walked away

0:27:24.480 --> 0:27:27.600
<v Speaker 2>just you know, feeling like I had been sort of transported. Yep,

0:27:27.640 --> 0:27:28.680
<v Speaker 2>it's called a real pain.

0:27:37.320 --> 0:27:41.560
<v Speaker 1>Tell me if you have grown emotionally or spiritually this year,

0:27:42.320 --> 0:27:42.880
<v Speaker 1>certainly hope.

0:27:42.920 --> 0:27:44.640
<v Speaker 2>So, since I pay almost two hundred dollars a week

0:27:44.680 --> 0:27:45.960
<v Speaker 2>for therapy, yeah, tell you.

0:27:46.040 --> 0:27:48.440
<v Speaker 1>I had therapy this morning and.

0:27:49.760 --> 0:27:55.840
<v Speaker 2>We spoke about about Rachel, about my daughter, and she

0:27:55.960 --> 0:27:57.800
<v Speaker 2>was going through something over the last couple of days.

0:27:59.359 --> 0:28:01.840
<v Speaker 2>And I've learned she's twenty two years old. When she

0:28:01.960 --> 0:28:03.840
<v Speaker 2>goes through something. We started out talking about this, but

0:28:03.920 --> 0:28:05.439
<v Speaker 2>when she goes through something, not to take it on

0:28:05.480 --> 0:28:10.160
<v Speaker 2>as my own, and not that I'm always there when

0:28:10.160 --> 0:28:13.960
<v Speaker 2>she needs me, but she could be going something through something.

0:28:14.000 --> 0:28:15.880
<v Speaker 2>I attached to it in my mind. I can't let

0:28:15.880 --> 0:28:17.280
<v Speaker 2>it go. It's on my mind all day. And then

0:28:17.320 --> 0:28:19.879
<v Speaker 2>she resolves whatever it is, and I'm you know, I

0:28:19.880 --> 0:28:21.840
<v Speaker 2>spend a whole day it's just a little dysfunctional. So

0:28:21.880 --> 0:28:24.840
<v Speaker 2>I feel like I've grown in that. In this particular instance,

0:28:24.920 --> 0:28:27.040
<v Speaker 2>I kind of separated. I said, she's twenty two, and

0:28:27.080 --> 0:28:29.280
<v Speaker 2>I trust that she could handle this, and I'm going

0:28:29.359 --> 0:28:31.560
<v Speaker 2>to give her the space to handle it, so that

0:28:31.560 --> 0:28:32.480
<v Speaker 2>that's I.

0:28:32.400 --> 0:28:34.760
<v Speaker 1>Hope one way. And my son who is in law school,

0:28:34.800 --> 0:28:36.080
<v Speaker 1>who is.

0:28:36.000 --> 0:28:38.680
<v Speaker 2>Not doesn't have time now to call mommy every day,

0:28:38.760 --> 0:28:42.160
<v Speaker 2>and you know, so to also take a step back

0:28:42.240 --> 0:28:45.280
<v Speaker 2>and know that he's doing his thing and not to

0:28:45.360 --> 0:28:50.120
<v Speaker 2>be overbearing, which I tend to be. So I feel

0:28:50.160 --> 0:28:53.320
<v Speaker 2>like I've grown in both of those days. Maybe also

0:28:53.360 --> 0:28:56.960
<v Speaker 2>I've gotten I've gotten more patient this year. I think

0:28:57.040 --> 0:29:02.160
<v Speaker 2>that show being on pause has been so strange for us,

0:29:02.240 --> 0:29:04.280
<v Speaker 2>and I have been doing it like you have, Jack. Obviously,

0:29:04.360 --> 0:29:05.920
<v Speaker 2>I've only been doing this for I did it for

0:29:05.960 --> 0:29:07.160
<v Speaker 2>two years and different yeas.

0:29:07.240 --> 0:29:08.760
<v Speaker 1>But you know what I say, I think that that

0:29:08.760 --> 0:29:11.000
<v Speaker 1>that that makes you want it more than me, Like

0:29:11.040 --> 0:29:13.080
<v Speaker 1>not that I don't want it, but like I've had

0:29:13.120 --> 0:29:15.320
<v Speaker 1>it for a long time, and I'm okay, if this

0:29:15.360 --> 0:29:17.640
<v Speaker 1>is the end of the road, I'm totally fine. It's

0:29:17.680 --> 0:29:23.160
<v Speaker 1>not about it just got started with the excitement. The

0:29:23.280 --> 0:29:26.320
<v Speaker 1>not knowing. Yeah, that bothers me. I'd like either to

0:29:26.760 --> 0:29:30.040
<v Speaker 1>know what my job's going to be or to have closure. Yeah,

0:29:30.080 --> 0:29:31.120
<v Speaker 1>I mean, that's that's what I mean.

0:29:31.160 --> 0:29:33.239
<v Speaker 2>My patience though it's like and everyone's always asking us,

0:29:33.280 --> 0:29:35.920
<v Speaker 2>right and we don't we have no idea and guessing

0:29:35.960 --> 0:29:36.720
<v Speaker 2>game and all of that.

0:29:36.880 --> 0:29:42.320
<v Speaker 1>So patients, Okay, what about you. I have grown emotionally.

0:29:42.760 --> 0:29:45.920
<v Speaker 1>I've had to well, you know, I'm still you know,

0:29:46.000 --> 0:29:49.000
<v Speaker 1>in recovery, and i still make like baby steps every day.

0:29:49.040 --> 0:29:53.200
<v Speaker 1>And it's not it's not super easy for me. It's

0:29:53.520 --> 0:29:58.760
<v Speaker 1>easier or harder. No, Well, the problem is that, like recovery,

0:29:59.200 --> 0:30:01.080
<v Speaker 1>getting rid of like the big stuff, like the not

0:30:01.200 --> 0:30:03.800
<v Speaker 1>eating getting rid of that was great. I was so

0:30:03.840 --> 0:30:07.160
<v Speaker 1>excited adding new foods to my diet. Great, so excited.

0:30:07.720 --> 0:30:10.640
<v Speaker 1>But it's like the little things, like the nitty gritty

0:30:10.840 --> 0:30:15.920
<v Speaker 1>like it's like the not being afraid of specific foods.

0:30:16.360 --> 0:30:19.280
<v Speaker 1>It's like the not feeling guilty after a meal. It's

0:30:19.280 --> 0:30:22.440
<v Speaker 1>like the not overthinking before a restaurant. Like the little

0:30:22.560 --> 0:30:24.880
<v Speaker 1>teeny tiny day to day things. Sometimes they are a

0:30:24.920 --> 0:30:28.080
<v Speaker 1>little bit hard for me. I've gained some weight over

0:30:28.120 --> 0:30:30.640
<v Speaker 1>the past few months, and that's been a little bit

0:30:30.680 --> 0:30:34.440
<v Speaker 1>hard for me. Not because I don't I mean, the

0:30:34.480 --> 0:30:38.160
<v Speaker 1>trade off is worth it. The trade off of having

0:30:38.160 --> 0:30:42.680
<v Speaker 1>that freedom is worth it. It's just it doesn't seem fair

0:30:42.720 --> 0:30:46.760
<v Speaker 1>to me because I'm not like going crazy, I'm not

0:30:47.840 --> 0:30:51.760
<v Speaker 1>eating everything that I love to eat. I still work

0:30:51.800 --> 0:30:55.040
<v Speaker 1>out daily and like to gain weight when you're not

0:30:55.120 --> 0:30:59.960
<v Speaker 1>doing anything that warrants gaining weight is hard, especially when

0:31:00.280 --> 0:31:02.840
<v Speaker 1>like so many people around me are slimming down, you know.

0:31:03.080 --> 0:31:07.120
<v Speaker 1>So that's been hard. But also I feel like I

0:31:07.120 --> 0:31:10.479
<v Speaker 1>feel very empowered that, like I'm in control and how

0:31:10.520 --> 0:31:13.480
<v Speaker 1>I feel about it, and so I'm proud. I choose

0:31:13.520 --> 0:31:16.960
<v Speaker 1>to be proud of it instead of being ashamed of

0:31:17.000 --> 0:31:20.120
<v Speaker 1>it because I'm still like, I'm still me. It doesn't matter,

0:31:20.280 --> 0:31:22.200
<v Speaker 1>you know, a few pounds up, a few pounds down.

0:31:22.480 --> 0:31:26.320
<v Speaker 1>I'm enjoying letting myself fluctuate because I've never had that before.

0:31:26.560 --> 0:31:28.040
<v Speaker 1>You know, for twenty years, I had to keep my

0:31:28.080 --> 0:31:30.080
<v Speaker 1>weight within a one pound range or else. It like

0:31:30.160 --> 0:31:33.840
<v Speaker 1>drove me crazy, and I don't weigh myself, but I

0:31:33.880 --> 0:31:37.400
<v Speaker 1>know I've gained weight. So just being okay with that,

0:31:37.680 --> 0:31:39.880
<v Speaker 1>I feel like, is something that I've never had before.

0:31:40.160 --> 0:31:42.280
<v Speaker 1>Even in my first like two years of recovery, the

0:31:42.320 --> 0:31:45.600
<v Speaker 1>weight was really uncomfortable for me. Like now it's it's

0:31:45.640 --> 0:31:49.400
<v Speaker 1>just part of me and like it is what it is, right,

0:31:49.480 --> 0:31:52.000
<v Speaker 1>So I feel like that's a big, big growth for me.

0:31:53.240 --> 0:31:56.600
<v Speaker 1>I've also calmed down down one thing I'm really proud

0:31:56.640 --> 0:32:01.480
<v Speaker 1>of this year. It's no surprise the show was not

0:32:01.640 --> 0:32:04.479
<v Speaker 1>great for me this year, right, And it's fine and

0:32:04.520 --> 0:32:07.320
<v Speaker 1>it's done, and like the hatred has stopped. But for

0:32:07.480 --> 0:32:11.920
<v Speaker 1>a month, for like a month, I got horrific social

0:32:12.000 --> 0:32:17.360
<v Speaker 1>media hates. And that's fine. But I'm really proud of

0:32:18.240 --> 0:32:21.560
<v Speaker 1>signing off of social media for a month. I went

0:32:21.640 --> 0:32:23.520
<v Speaker 1>off at the beginning of August and I didn't go

0:32:23.600 --> 0:32:27.040
<v Speaker 1>back until the beginning of September or the end of August.

0:32:27.120 --> 0:32:30.560
<v Speaker 1>And that was so great because all the shit really

0:32:30.640 --> 0:32:34.080
<v Speaker 1>just exists in your phone, right, Like, yeah, I really

0:32:34.080 --> 0:32:36.160
<v Speaker 1>hates you, Your friends don't really hate you. My friends

0:32:36.160 --> 0:32:39.400
<v Speaker 1>couldn't give a shit about it, right, Like your family

0:32:39.400 --> 0:32:42.240
<v Speaker 1>doesn't care. So it really just exists in your phone.

0:32:43.040 --> 0:32:46.200
<v Speaker 1>So I think that was one of the wisest things

0:32:46.320 --> 0:32:49.840
<v Speaker 1>that I've ever done, was just the leading it for

0:32:49.920 --> 0:32:54.400
<v Speaker 1>a month. And I think I would have caused myself

0:32:54.440 --> 0:32:56.360
<v Speaker 1>a lot of distress had I not. And it makes

0:32:56.400 --> 0:33:00.600
<v Speaker 1>me want to in the new year kind of change

0:33:00.640 --> 0:33:03.920
<v Speaker 1>my relationship with social media more. Yeah, I think it's

0:33:03.920 --> 0:33:05.760
<v Speaker 1>really no. I think that's a great goal. I think

0:33:05.880 --> 0:33:08.000
<v Speaker 1>for all of us. Did you hear the TikTok is

0:33:08.000 --> 0:33:12.040
<v Speaker 1>getting abolished in January. I didn't hear January. I thought

0:33:12.080 --> 0:33:14.320
<v Speaker 1>I'd have to go through your more legal processes.

0:33:14.360 --> 0:33:15.800
<v Speaker 2>But I could be wrong. I think I just heard

0:33:15.800 --> 0:33:18.080
<v Speaker 2>that like this morning. I probably heard it on Titch.

0:33:18.200 --> 0:33:20.880
<v Speaker 2>Just got on TikTok too. Guys follow me, and so

0:33:21.000 --> 0:33:23.760
<v Speaker 2>I took Jackie Goldschneider. I'm scared to look at it.

0:33:23.840 --> 0:33:25.600
<v Speaker 1>I haven't looked at it at what the page is,

0:33:25.920 --> 0:33:27.400
<v Speaker 1>but I have to have you come up for me.

0:33:27.480 --> 0:33:29.600
<v Speaker 1>Like usually if it was that like Jackie Gold one

0:33:29.680 --> 0:33:31.640
<v Speaker 1>hundred or something like that, I should check what my

0:33:31.760 --> 0:33:36.560
<v Speaker 1>name is. Because someone took Jackie Goldschneider. I'm fairly confident

0:33:36.600 --> 0:33:39.240
<v Speaker 1>there's not other Jackie gold Schnyders walking around. I'm at

0:33:39.320 --> 0:33:43.080
<v Speaker 1>Jackie Gold one hundred and I only share eating disorder content.

0:33:43.400 --> 0:33:47.360
<v Speaker 1>But I don't know what the other Jackie gold Schnyder.

0:33:47.760 --> 0:33:50.040
<v Speaker 2>According to what I saw on TikTok, It's not going

0:33:50.120 --> 0:33:52.440
<v Speaker 2>to matter much longer anyway, but I guess we'll see

0:33:52.920 --> 0:33:53.560
<v Speaker 2>you know when.

0:33:53.400 --> 0:33:55.920
<v Speaker 1>I gos ANITA Gala this year. I hosted the National

0:33:56.000 --> 0:33:59.240
<v Speaker 1>Eating Disorder Association Gala this year and so amazing one

0:33:59.320 --> 0:34:01.760
<v Speaker 1>of the most amazing highlights of my year, Like I

0:34:01.760 --> 0:34:06.880
<v Speaker 1>can't believe how I try. I want to say full circle,

0:34:06.880 --> 0:34:08.520
<v Speaker 1>but it's not full circle because I wasn't at that

0:34:08.560 --> 0:34:11.040
<v Speaker 1>point to begin with. But like half circle? How half

0:34:11.080 --> 0:34:14.440
<v Speaker 1>circle I've come? Yeah, I love it all right? Favorite

0:34:14.440 --> 0:34:19.560
<v Speaker 1>song this year? I mean, the thing is that, like

0:34:19.680 --> 0:34:23.040
<v Speaker 1>I'm always listening to old songs. I'm you know, I'm listening.

0:34:23.520 --> 0:34:26.479
<v Speaker 2>I put on It's totally embarrassing, but I'm like listening

0:34:26.480 --> 0:34:30.840
<v Speaker 2>to eighties music and seventies music and more than huge huge.

0:34:30.880 --> 0:34:34.840
<v Speaker 2>I don't listen to pop. I'm a huge all rock person.

0:34:34.880 --> 0:34:36.680
<v Speaker 2>I know that always freaks me out about you. Oh,

0:34:36.760 --> 0:34:38.360
<v Speaker 2>I love it weird much.

0:34:38.920 --> 0:34:43.480
<v Speaker 1>There there were a few songs that I loved this year,

0:34:43.520 --> 0:34:47.080
<v Speaker 1>but I have to say my favorite is there's a

0:34:47.080 --> 0:34:49.200
<v Speaker 1>band called Cage the Elephant. Do you listen to them?

0:34:50.880 --> 0:34:52.640
<v Speaker 1>So they put out a new album a song called

0:34:52.760 --> 0:34:55.000
<v Speaker 1>Neon Pill that just gets it. I just love it.

0:34:55.000 --> 0:34:57.680
<v Speaker 1>I love Hosier too. Oh he's so good.

0:34:58.200 --> 0:35:02.880
<v Speaker 2>I mean you're talking like we're going jingle ball in tomorrow. Actually, yeah,

0:35:03.120 --> 0:35:05.480
<v Speaker 2>it's gonna be so much fun. I'm so excited. But

0:35:05.640 --> 0:35:08.399
<v Speaker 2>if if truth be told, I don't I mean Katie Perry, right,

0:35:08.719 --> 0:35:16.120
<v Speaker 2>Sizza's Sabrina Shaboozy Shaboozy, I don't think so good, I

0:35:16.160 --> 0:35:19.040
<v Speaker 2>have to say in terms of pop Sabrina Carpenter song

0:35:19.160 --> 0:35:22.719
<v Speaker 2>taste is so I have a teenage daughter, and like,

0:35:22.760 --> 0:35:25.960
<v Speaker 2>so I feel like an idiot sometimes when I like,

0:35:26.160 --> 0:35:29.000
<v Speaker 2>I'm like running, you know, when I run, I put

0:35:29.000 --> 0:35:31.040
<v Speaker 2>on music, I like, I don't want to run to

0:35:31.080 --> 0:35:33.320
<v Speaker 2>the stuff that like she's listening to with her friends

0:35:33.320 --> 0:35:35.440
<v Speaker 2>and doing tiktoks too, you know, because then I feel like,

0:35:36.120 --> 0:35:38.480
<v Speaker 2>I don't know, I feel like I'm right, it's her style.

0:35:38.600 --> 0:35:41.160
<v Speaker 1>I know. No, I totally get that. I totally get

0:35:41.200 --> 0:35:43.800
<v Speaker 1>that funny, like it's so funny and this is off topic,

0:35:43.840 --> 0:35:46.319
<v Speaker 1>but like god, how did how did we get old

0:35:46.360 --> 0:35:46.920
<v Speaker 1>so fast?

0:35:47.080 --> 0:35:49.399
<v Speaker 2>I was just I mean, you're talking. I can't even

0:35:49.400 --> 0:35:51.160
<v Speaker 2>have that discussion with you. You're a baby.

0:35:51.719 --> 0:35:55.200
<v Speaker 1>I'm not a baby, Jet, you're a baby. Comparatively, I

0:35:55.200 --> 0:36:00.960
<v Speaker 1>mean six, you are, I'm year and a half. Okay,

0:36:01.000 --> 0:36:04.520
<v Speaker 1>you're forty eight. I don't know, Jackie. The difference is

0:36:06.960 --> 0:36:07.560
<v Speaker 1>it's huge.

0:36:07.640 --> 0:36:10.960
<v Speaker 2>I mean, fifty six and at forty eight, I don't

0:36:10.960 --> 0:36:15.360
<v Speaker 2>even think I was feeling my age like after fifty

0:36:15.560 --> 0:36:17.920
<v Speaker 2>my age No, I mean like, I don't think I

0:36:17.960 --> 0:36:22.560
<v Speaker 2>was even that qu like now fifty six. It's things

0:36:22.560 --> 0:36:27.040
<v Speaker 2>are different, Like my body feels different. Even sometimes when

0:36:27.040 --> 0:36:31.239
<v Speaker 2>I would watch myself on camera, the way that I

0:36:31.400 --> 0:36:34.359
<v Speaker 2>move felt I was watching myself. And of course we're

0:36:34.360 --> 0:36:36.120
<v Speaker 2>our own worst critics, but I felt like I was

0:36:36.160 --> 0:36:38.560
<v Speaker 2>moving like an old person, you know. And also that

0:36:38.600 --> 0:36:41.120
<v Speaker 2>probably is one of the reasons why I started exercising

0:36:41.120 --> 0:36:44.720
<v Speaker 2>again and lifting weights. But like I remember watching back

0:36:44.840 --> 0:36:47.520
<v Speaker 2>when Rachel Fuda had this had the pajama party.

0:36:48.520 --> 0:36:49.080
<v Speaker 1>Do you remember that?

0:36:49.719 --> 0:36:54.240
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, silly stuff, but watching myself walk from her boyer

0:36:54.400 --> 0:36:59.480
<v Speaker 2>into like where her bar area was or is, and

0:36:59.520 --> 0:37:02.640
<v Speaker 2>I remember, We're just seeing that back and thinking, you

0:37:02.840 --> 0:37:04.080
<v Speaker 2>you walk like an old person.

0:37:05.040 --> 0:37:06.880
<v Speaker 1>You know. It's like I never saw you walk like

0:37:06.880 --> 0:37:08.680
<v Speaker 1>an old well you would, I mean you probably wouldn't

0:37:08.719 --> 0:37:11.000
<v Speaker 1>because you're not looking for that. But it's weird. It's

0:37:11.040 --> 0:37:14.520
<v Speaker 1>like the aging thing is is, Yeah, maybe working out

0:37:14.520 --> 0:37:19.480
<v Speaker 1>we'll help with that. You find strength. Okay, So let's see.

0:37:19.960 --> 0:37:21.840
<v Speaker 1>Let's see what else. The best meal you had this

0:37:21.920 --> 0:37:26.120
<v Speaker 1>year was your best meal in Vietnam? Vietnam, Oh my god,

0:37:27.480 --> 0:37:30.560
<v Speaker 1>my best meal if anyone is visiting Rome, was in

0:37:31.520 --> 0:37:35.320
<v Speaker 1>like by far, hands down, no comparison. In a town

0:37:35.480 --> 0:37:39.520
<v Speaker 1>called Trustevere, there was a restaurant called Taverna Treloosa that

0:37:39.719 --> 0:37:43.320
<v Speaker 1>was I mean just Evan and I were just staring

0:37:43.360 --> 0:37:45.120
<v Speaker 1>at each other the whole meal, like, did you try this?

0:37:45.320 --> 0:37:49.480
<v Speaker 1>Did you try this? It was unbelievable that it was unbelievable. Yeah,

0:37:49.480 --> 0:37:55.840
<v Speaker 1>it was so good. Favorite trend, favorite trend? Gosh, what's yours?

0:37:56.000 --> 0:38:00.040
<v Speaker 1>I am so surprised to hear myself say that I

0:37:59.840 --> 0:38:05.760
<v Speaker 1>love the barrel jean, do you I that's so funny

0:38:05.760 --> 0:38:07.239
<v Speaker 1>that you say that. I think you have to.

0:38:07.200 --> 0:38:12.239
<v Speaker 2>Find the right one bow legged. So I didn't like

0:38:12.280 --> 0:38:14.440
<v Speaker 2>it either until I found the right one. I just

0:38:14.480 --> 0:38:18.080
<v Speaker 2>bought a pair of page and I love them really

0:38:18.520 --> 0:38:22.440
<v Speaker 2>and yes, yes, And I can't put on skinn jeans anymore.

0:38:22.480 --> 0:38:24.200
<v Speaker 1>No, I don't wear my skinny jeans. I'm wearing wide

0:38:24.239 --> 0:38:28.239
<v Speaker 1>leg right now. But I have not tried barrel jeans yet.

0:38:28.440 --> 0:38:30.839
<v Speaker 1>Maybe I will try them. I'm shocked that I love them,

0:38:30.840 --> 0:38:33.640
<v Speaker 1>but I love them all right. I love that. I

0:38:33.760 --> 0:38:36.480
<v Speaker 1>actually nice. This year, I've been wearing a lot of

0:38:36.480 --> 0:38:40.319
<v Speaker 1>those New Balance three twenty seven sneakers. Yeah. Oh, I've

0:38:40.360 --> 0:38:42.200
<v Speaker 1>sorted wearing a lot of sneakers. I like it, like

0:38:42.239 --> 0:38:45.719
<v Speaker 1>a chunky white sneaker. I've been like really into. So

0:38:46.520 --> 0:38:49.200
<v Speaker 1>all right, so let's let's get into our hopes for

0:38:49.239 --> 0:38:55.080
<v Speaker 1>the new year. Do you make resolutions? No?

0:38:55.080 --> 0:38:58.040
<v Speaker 2>No. When I was younger, it was always lose weight.

0:38:58.120 --> 0:39:00.400
<v Speaker 2>Right every year, it was the same thing, and up

0:39:00.480 --> 0:39:02.680
<v Speaker 2>until the New Year, I would bringe, like literally, I

0:39:02.719 --> 0:39:05.600
<v Speaker 2>would think it's coming, it's coming on New Year's Day,

0:39:05.640 --> 0:39:06.880
<v Speaker 2>and then on New Ye's Day, I would say, well,

0:39:06.920 --> 0:39:09.200
<v Speaker 2>it's New Year's Day. You have to eat and I'm not.

0:39:09.239 --> 0:39:12.040
<v Speaker 2>You know, we've talked about that that. I've also had

0:39:12.920 --> 0:39:16.560
<v Speaker 2>suffered with eating disorders at times in my life, but.

0:39:18.280 --> 0:39:19.400
<v Speaker 1>That was always the resolution.

0:39:19.480 --> 0:39:22.880
<v Speaker 2>It was always to lose weight, which I don't do anymore,

0:39:23.400 --> 0:39:26.560
<v Speaker 2>like at all, And I don't really do resolutions, but.

0:39:26.520 --> 0:39:30.280
<v Speaker 1>Do you know what, It's not that I do likes

0:39:30.680 --> 0:39:34.560
<v Speaker 1>like hardcore resolutions, but there are things that I'd like

0:39:34.640 --> 0:39:37.800
<v Speaker 1>to see happen. They're mostly like career goals because obviously

0:39:37.840 --> 0:39:41.480
<v Speaker 1>I can't resolve to have my children behave in certain ways.

0:39:41.480 --> 0:39:42.839
<v Speaker 1>You know, when they're good kids, I just want them

0:39:42.840 --> 0:39:47.920
<v Speaker 1>to be happy, So they're mostly like career goals. I

0:39:47.920 --> 0:39:50.480
<v Speaker 1>have a lot of career goals and a lot of ideas,

0:39:50.719 --> 0:39:52.520
<v Speaker 1>And every day I throw shit at the wall and

0:39:52.560 --> 0:39:55.720
<v Speaker 1>see what sticks, and ninety nine percent of it doesn't stick,

0:39:55.840 --> 0:39:58.520
<v Speaker 1>but that one percent that does is really exciting. So

0:39:59.080 --> 0:40:01.680
<v Speaker 1>I think I have like a whole bunch of things

0:40:01.719 --> 0:40:05.279
<v Speaker 1>that I have to consistently remind myself to stick with

0:40:05.800 --> 0:40:09.239
<v Speaker 1>because I love immedia gratification. But you know, this year

0:40:09.280 --> 0:40:11.480
<v Speaker 1>I read this book Atomic Habits. Do you read that?

0:40:12.600 --> 0:40:15.759
<v Speaker 1>And it was talking about God. They had the best

0:40:15.760 --> 0:40:18.279
<v Speaker 1>analogy and it was like, you know, you leave an

0:40:18.320 --> 0:40:23.239
<v Speaker 1>ice cube on a counter in a room, and if

0:40:23.280 --> 0:40:28.520
<v Speaker 1>you gradually heat the room up from like zero degrees

0:40:28.920 --> 0:40:31.840
<v Speaker 1>to thirty one degrees, nothing is going to happen to

0:40:31.920 --> 0:40:34.720
<v Speaker 1>that ice cube. But the minute it hits thirty two degrees,

0:40:34.760 --> 0:40:36.640
<v Speaker 1>that ice cube is going to start to melt. Right,

0:40:36.960 --> 0:40:40.120
<v Speaker 1>So it's everything you did up until that point that

0:40:40.600 --> 0:40:43.319
<v Speaker 1>prepare that ice cube to melt. It wasn't just that

0:40:43.360 --> 0:40:45.720
<v Speaker 1>one thing of hitting thirty two degrees that made it happen.

0:40:45.800 --> 0:40:47.840
<v Speaker 1>It was all the steps before that, Right, So I

0:40:47.880 --> 0:40:50.759
<v Speaker 1>have to consistently remind myself that planting the seeds and

0:40:50.840 --> 0:40:54.440
<v Speaker 1>the little things that don't actually make anything like go boom.

0:40:54.960 --> 0:40:58.279
<v Speaker 1>Are what leads up to that you know, gratifying moment

0:40:58.320 --> 0:41:01.560
<v Speaker 1>where something does happen for you, So planting a lot

0:41:01.600 --> 0:41:04.120
<v Speaker 1>of seeds, you know, and so I have to stick

0:41:04.120 --> 0:41:06.200
<v Speaker 1>with it. That's my resume definitely. That's actually something I

0:41:06.239 --> 0:41:06.640
<v Speaker 1>did learn.

0:41:06.760 --> 0:41:08.879
<v Speaker 2>I have to say this year, this past year, is that,

0:41:10.320 --> 0:41:14.359
<v Speaker 2>like I can, I hate the word manifest and let

0:41:14.360 --> 0:41:16.880
<v Speaker 2>me not use that word, but but I do have

0:41:16.920 --> 0:41:20.480
<v Speaker 2>an ability to think, wow, what about this and then

0:41:21.120 --> 0:41:24.320
<v Speaker 2>put it into play, which I think that I struggled

0:41:24.320 --> 0:41:26.400
<v Speaker 2>with for so long. I mean, I created a business

0:41:26.480 --> 0:41:28.680
<v Speaker 2>and I always say this is going back when I

0:41:28.719 --> 0:41:31.279
<v Speaker 2>was fifty. But the reason that I stuck with it

0:41:31.360 --> 0:41:34.320
<v Speaker 2>was because I brought people into it, and I people

0:41:34.480 --> 0:41:38.400
<v Speaker 2>invested emotionally in it and financially and so you know,

0:41:38.440 --> 0:41:41.080
<v Speaker 2>in f major and so there was no squirming out

0:41:41.120 --> 0:41:43.799
<v Speaker 2>of it, because MY tendency through the years has been

0:41:43.840 --> 0:41:46.600
<v Speaker 2>to have a big idea and then you know, squirm

0:41:46.760 --> 0:41:50.880
<v Speaker 2>and and sort of just like not really you know, dedicated, But.

0:41:50.920 --> 0:41:52.600
<v Speaker 1>You busted your ass with that. I remember the first

0:41:52.640 --> 0:41:54.080
<v Speaker 1>time I met you years ago.

0:41:57.040 --> 0:41:59.000
<v Speaker 2>No I know, but that was again, I mean, I

0:41:59.000 --> 0:42:00.839
<v Speaker 2>I had put myself into busines where I couldn't square

0:42:00.840 --> 0:42:04.239
<v Speaker 2>them out. So but but I have this past year,

0:42:04.280 --> 0:42:05.640
<v Speaker 2>I've had like what about this?

0:42:05.960 --> 0:42:06.560
<v Speaker 1>What about this?

0:42:06.719 --> 0:42:10.000
<v Speaker 2>And actually putting that into motion, you know, like the

0:42:10.000 --> 0:42:14.160
<v Speaker 2>Housewives thing. I got a call from a casting director

0:42:14.200 --> 0:42:17.360
<v Speaker 2>and then that I didn't have to do much except

0:42:17.400 --> 0:42:18.600
<v Speaker 2>to show up, you know what I mean, I didn't.

0:42:18.600 --> 0:42:20.720
<v Speaker 1>I wasn't creating a show or creating something for myself.

0:42:20.760 --> 0:42:23.840
<v Speaker 2>That was more like I got an opportunity and I

0:42:23.880 --> 0:42:27.760
<v Speaker 2>happily took it right, but actually coming up with stuff

0:42:27.760 --> 0:42:30.920
<v Speaker 2>now again, while we're we don't know what the future is,

0:42:31.160 --> 0:42:33.680
<v Speaker 2>you know, of the show, and I've been able to

0:42:33.760 --> 0:42:36.800
<v Speaker 2>do some things I don't know that I'm I'm pleased

0:42:36.800 --> 0:42:39.239
<v Speaker 2>that I've been able to put things in motion this year,

0:42:39.480 --> 0:42:41.360
<v Speaker 2>and I will I hope, I hope that I'll be

0:42:41.360 --> 0:42:42.120
<v Speaker 2>able to do that again.

0:42:42.960 --> 0:42:45.640
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, it's kind of exciting not knowing what will happen.

0:42:45.800 --> 0:42:50.280
<v Speaker 1>Like as long as my the people I love are healthy,

0:42:51.239 --> 0:42:54.880
<v Speaker 1>then I'm kind of like excited to see like what happens.

0:42:55.200 --> 0:42:55.440
<v Speaker 1>You know.

0:42:55.640 --> 0:42:59.600
<v Speaker 2>You know, I have a friend who is just had

0:42:59.600 --> 0:43:02.160
<v Speaker 2>some just found out that he's having some health issues,

0:43:02.200 --> 0:43:07.600
<v Speaker 2>some serious ones, and yeah, I mean it just changes.

0:43:07.280 --> 0:43:10.920
<v Speaker 1>Everything right in an instant, right, and I'm yeah, And.

0:43:10.920 --> 0:43:12.719
<v Speaker 2>I want to say when I think about the coming year,

0:43:12.840 --> 0:43:15.640
<v Speaker 2>my part of part of it. I'm not trying to

0:43:15.640 --> 0:43:19.279
<v Speaker 2>say this that I'm so altruistic, but like, I just

0:43:19.280 --> 0:43:21.320
<v Speaker 2>think about my dear friend and I want to be

0:43:21.320 --> 0:43:26.279
<v Speaker 2>able to be as strong for her and make this

0:43:26.640 --> 0:43:31.680
<v Speaker 2>if I can, in any way easier, and like it'll

0:43:31.719 --> 0:43:33.799
<v Speaker 2>be a good year if I can help. I mean,

0:43:33.840 --> 0:43:37.920
<v Speaker 2>I had another friend years back who was diagnosed with

0:43:37.960 --> 0:43:42.600
<v Speaker 2>ovarian cancer and for a few years she passed and

0:43:43.040 --> 0:43:47.560
<v Speaker 2>this friend won't but thank god. But anyway, the point

0:43:47.600 --> 0:43:52.360
<v Speaker 2>is that it was hard. It was really hard to

0:43:52.400 --> 0:43:55.759
<v Speaker 2>be a close friend of someone going through that way,

0:43:55.760 --> 0:44:01.160
<v Speaker 2>harder for her than it was for me. And as

0:44:01.160 --> 0:44:02.640
<v Speaker 2>I look when I look back at it, I think

0:44:02.680 --> 0:44:05.920
<v Speaker 2>I did everything that I could to make it easier

0:44:05.920 --> 0:44:08.160
<v Speaker 2>for her. You know, That's the only thing that was

0:44:08.160 --> 0:44:10.040
<v Speaker 2>gratifying in any way about it, is that I think

0:44:10.080 --> 0:44:11.000
<v Speaker 2>I helped make it.

0:44:11.200 --> 0:44:14.400
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, you're a really good friend. I'm not trying to

0:44:14.400 --> 0:44:16.080
<v Speaker 1>be like I think the important thing that I want

0:44:16.120 --> 0:44:19.000
<v Speaker 1>to carry into the new year is that like there's

0:44:19.080 --> 0:44:22.759
<v Speaker 1>never there's never a year where everything is great. There's

0:44:22.800 --> 0:44:25.719
<v Speaker 1>never a year where everything's bad. There's never a time

0:44:25.760 --> 0:44:27.839
<v Speaker 1>in your life. You know. I used to wait a

0:44:27.880 --> 0:44:31.239
<v Speaker 1>lot and say I'll do this when things ease up,

0:44:31.239 --> 0:44:34.560
<v Speaker 1>and I'll do this when I'm not like said about something,

0:44:34.600 --> 0:44:37.279
<v Speaker 1>And there's never going to be that time. You just

0:44:37.280 --> 0:44:39.960
<v Speaker 1>got to like do what you do and let life

0:44:40.760 --> 0:44:41.440
<v Speaker 1>be life, you know.

0:44:41.480 --> 0:44:43.399
<v Speaker 2>And no one gets away Jack, That's what I tell

0:44:43.440 --> 0:44:47.440
<v Speaker 2>my kids. No one gets away, no matter what in

0:44:48.200 --> 0:44:49.680
<v Speaker 2>it might be a small thing that you think is

0:44:49.719 --> 0:44:50.759
<v Speaker 2>small or big or not.

0:44:50.920 --> 0:44:54.920
<v Speaker 1>But the struggles real period, full stop. That's I guess. Yeah.

0:44:54.960 --> 0:44:56.920
<v Speaker 1>And we got these drones flying over New Jersey and

0:44:56.960 --> 0:44:59.160
<v Speaker 1>who knows what the inside of them? Right, I don't

0:44:59.200 --> 0:45:01.520
<v Speaker 1>talk about those. That's freaks. How we actually make it

0:45:01.560 --> 0:45:03.680
<v Speaker 1>to the new year, give me God forbid? That is

0:45:04.160 --> 0:45:08.759
<v Speaker 1>it's in my chai. Wow. Yes, people intend if we

0:45:08.840 --> 0:45:09.800
<v Speaker 1>find we're taking.

0:45:09.560 --> 0:45:11.719
<v Speaker 2>Pictures of them, I don't get it, and no one

0:45:11.719 --> 0:45:13.120
<v Speaker 2>can figure it out, I know.

0:45:13.400 --> 0:45:13.640
<v Speaker 1>Yeah.

0:45:14.480 --> 0:45:17.360
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, let's hope you're still here on Earth without the

0:45:17.400 --> 0:45:21.760
<v Speaker 2>Martians twenty in them.

0:45:21.840 --> 0:45:27.880
<v Speaker 1>Okay, So message for listeners next year, God, I would say,

0:45:30.400 --> 0:45:34.800
<v Speaker 1>follow through on the things that you are dreaming about,

0:45:35.360 --> 0:45:38.480
<v Speaker 1>because it's really easy to let your dreams die in

0:45:38.520 --> 0:45:41.480
<v Speaker 1>your head because things take effort, you know, and be

0:45:41.600 --> 0:45:44.239
<v Speaker 1>okay with rejection. I'm saying that out loud for me

0:45:44.520 --> 0:45:48.480
<v Speaker 1>also because rejections are part of it and I hate rejection.

0:45:48.719 --> 0:45:51.279
<v Speaker 1>But yeah, yeah, well.

0:45:51.200 --> 0:45:56.000
<v Speaker 2>I said, I don't really make don't really make resolutions,

0:45:56.480 --> 0:46:00.279
<v Speaker 2>but I would recommend therapy for anyone who's not in

0:46:00.400 --> 0:46:04.520
<v Speaker 2>his because I do feel like each year I I

0:46:04.560 --> 0:46:06.799
<v Speaker 2>do grow. I grow, like we talked about a little

0:46:06.840 --> 0:46:08.560
<v Speaker 2>bit emotion bestationally and.

0:46:09.200 --> 0:46:11.840
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, therapy is the greatest gift you can give yourself.

0:46:12.000 --> 0:46:16.600
<v Speaker 2>I would agree with that. I would agree with that. Okay, then,

0:46:17.040 --> 0:46:19.600
<v Speaker 2>well listen, and I also hope in twenty twenty five,

0:46:19.640 --> 0:46:22.799
<v Speaker 2>you guys keep listening to us, and I hope that

0:46:22.880 --> 0:46:25.719
<v Speaker 2>we are. I don't know if either we're amusing you,

0:46:26.040 --> 0:46:27.840
<v Speaker 2>or you can relate, or you don't feel and we

0:46:27.920 --> 0:46:29.840
<v Speaker 2>talk about certain things, maybe you don't feel so alone.

0:46:31.640 --> 0:46:34.040
<v Speaker 2>You know, we try. I think with Jersey Jays, we

0:46:34.120 --> 0:46:38.080
<v Speaker 2>both tried to be honest and open and because that's it, right,

0:46:38.120 --> 0:46:41.640
<v Speaker 2>It's all about connecting with people. So I hope we

0:46:41.640 --> 0:46:43.719
<v Speaker 2>get to continue that in twenty twenty five. Yeah, we've

0:46:43.719 --> 0:46:44.959
<v Speaker 2>had some fantastic guests.

0:46:45.000 --> 0:46:49.920
<v Speaker 1>Some we have here. It's your favorite. I just have

0:46:50.320 --> 0:46:51.600
<v Speaker 1>such a thing from my ambilliti.

0:46:51.600 --> 0:46:53.920
<v Speaker 2>Iknew you're going to say that. I knew you were

0:46:53.920 --> 0:46:56.359
<v Speaker 2>going to say that. I really do like I love her.

0:46:56.440 --> 0:46:59.799
<v Speaker 1>I love that she's an unabashed nerd. I love how

0:46:59.840 --> 0:47:02.759
<v Speaker 1>she stands by love fiction. She's such a talented actress,

0:47:02.800 --> 0:47:05.440
<v Speaker 1>like everything. I love everything about her. I know you do.

0:47:05.560 --> 0:47:09.640
<v Speaker 2>And I loved love her and loved that episode.

0:47:10.239 --> 0:47:12.200
<v Speaker 1>And I think one.

0:47:12.120 --> 0:47:14.560
<v Speaker 2>That really affected me was Maria Minunos, which we did

0:47:14.680 --> 0:47:16.360
<v Speaker 2>pretty recently, and I thought.

0:47:16.239 --> 0:47:18.120
<v Speaker 1>Oh yeah, we called each other after that. We were

0:47:18.200 --> 0:47:22.480
<v Speaker 1>just like flabergasted. She is a force, she really is. Yeah.

0:47:22.520 --> 0:47:24.719
<v Speaker 1>So that was a good one, so good one. Some

0:47:24.760 --> 0:47:28.240
<v Speaker 1>great guests in twenty twenty five and some fun topics

0:47:28.480 --> 0:47:35.480
<v Speaker 1>and some some more success And I love you. I

0:47:35.560 --> 0:47:37.879
<v Speaker 1>wish all of you guys a happy new year and

0:47:37.920 --> 0:47:44.640
<v Speaker 1>we will be healthy. Bye.