1 00:00:01,840 --> 00:00:06,080 Speaker 1: Hey everyone, it's Jackie Gilitschneider and Jen Fessler and we 2 00:00:06,200 --> 00:00:10,639 Speaker 1: are two Jersey Jays and happy almost New Years to everyone. 3 00:00:10,880 --> 00:00:14,840 Speaker 2: Be almost New Year's. I'm actually quite excited that we 4 00:00:14,880 --> 00:00:17,079 Speaker 2: are side by to twenty twenty four. 5 00:00:17,840 --> 00:00:19,160 Speaker 1: I am too, But why are you? 6 00:00:20,160 --> 00:00:24,200 Speaker 2: I mean, I think this very very hopeful for twenty 7 00:00:24,239 --> 00:00:27,200 Speaker 2: twenty five. It's been a hard year. I think it's 8 00:00:27,200 --> 00:00:28,640 Speaker 2: been a hard year for everyone. It's been a hard 9 00:00:28,720 --> 00:00:31,639 Speaker 2: year for our country. It's been not to start out 10 00:00:31,680 --> 00:00:34,760 Speaker 2: as Debbie Downer, but you know, it's been so divisive. 11 00:00:35,000 --> 00:00:38,519 Speaker 2: What's happening in Israel has plagued us both, I know, 12 00:00:38,800 --> 00:00:42,360 Speaker 2: and it's still happening all year. I'm hopeful for some 13 00:00:42,520 --> 00:00:49,320 Speaker 2: peace and some exciting change in the new year. Yeah, 14 00:00:49,400 --> 00:00:54,320 Speaker 2: I'm with you, but it hasn't all been bad. But yes, 15 00:00:54,440 --> 00:00:57,360 Speaker 2: I must say, as a Jewish woman, I have carried 16 00:00:57,360 --> 00:01:00,320 Speaker 2: a weight on my shoulders every single day. And not 17 00:01:00,320 --> 00:01:04,640 Speaker 2: not that the anti Semitism that's like destroying the world 18 00:01:04,720 --> 00:01:09,480 Speaker 2: right now has impacted me so greatly, but I think 19 00:01:09,680 --> 00:01:10,319 Speaker 2: living in a. 20 00:01:10,319 --> 00:01:14,039 Speaker 1: Town that has a hostage, so there's a hostage from 21 00:01:14,040 --> 00:01:17,760 Speaker 1: my town, and it's I think about that family all 22 00:01:17,840 --> 00:01:21,480 Speaker 1: the time, and I just I'm really sad. I'm sad 23 00:01:22,040 --> 00:01:24,240 Speaker 1: I think about you know, when I look at the 24 00:01:24,280 --> 00:01:27,880 Speaker 1: girls that are being held hostage, but they look like 25 00:01:27,959 --> 00:01:30,479 Speaker 1: the same as my daughter, you know, And it's really 26 00:01:30,560 --> 00:01:33,880 Speaker 1: hard to take myself out of that and say this 27 00:01:33,959 --> 00:01:36,959 Speaker 1: is about other people, because it's not like I'm is Israeli. 28 00:01:37,160 --> 00:01:40,000 Speaker 1: And it's just been hard. It's been hard to know 29 00:01:40,080 --> 00:01:43,399 Speaker 1: that's still happening every day. We haven't really spoken about 30 00:01:43,400 --> 00:01:46,920 Speaker 1: it a lot here, I know, because it's politically divisive, 31 00:01:46,959 --> 00:01:49,720 Speaker 1: which shouldn't be. I mean, there should be no political 32 00:01:49,760 --> 00:01:53,280 Speaker 1: divisiveness to the fact that like you support creating these 33 00:01:53,320 --> 00:01:55,600 Speaker 1: innocent hostages and. 34 00:01:55,600 --> 00:01:59,320 Speaker 2: That you're against anti Semitism, yeah, which is running rampant. 35 00:01:59,400 --> 00:02:01,480 Speaker 2: But anyway, for another time. 36 00:02:01,720 --> 00:02:05,760 Speaker 1: Yes, so let's talk New Year's because like it's here, 37 00:02:06,840 --> 00:02:08,440 Speaker 1: I know, what are you doing? What's your plan? 38 00:02:09,120 --> 00:02:11,360 Speaker 2: Well, actually, by the time that you guys are hearing this, 39 00:02:12,000 --> 00:02:14,760 Speaker 2: I'm going to be on a plane home from Mexico, 40 00:02:15,800 --> 00:02:17,000 Speaker 2: which I'm so excited about it. 41 00:02:17,040 --> 00:02:19,200 Speaker 1: That's nice. Get out of the snow weather a little bit. 42 00:02:19,280 --> 00:02:21,040 Speaker 1: It's so cold. I feel like it just went from 43 00:02:21,040 --> 00:02:23,680 Speaker 1: like summer to winter and now with the time change, 44 00:02:23,720 --> 00:02:26,400 Speaker 1: like it goes from if there's no afternoon, it's like 45 00:02:26,480 --> 00:02:29,000 Speaker 1: morning and then it's nighttime. You know. So I'm going 46 00:02:29,040 --> 00:02:30,800 Speaker 1: to nice bro, Yeah it will. 47 00:02:30,840 --> 00:02:33,840 Speaker 2: I'm going to celebrate on the day though, so going 48 00:02:33,880 --> 00:02:35,400 Speaker 2: to a friend's house. We're all going to be in 49 00:02:35,440 --> 00:02:38,919 Speaker 2: pj's and I'm going to bring over some black eyed peas, 50 00:02:39,000 --> 00:02:41,960 Speaker 2: which is a very Southern tradition. You have to eat 51 00:02:42,000 --> 00:02:44,880 Speaker 2: black eyed peas on the New Year. Poor good luck. 52 00:02:45,720 --> 00:02:47,919 Speaker 1: Oh. I love that. I went to a pajama party 53 00:02:47,919 --> 00:02:49,640 Speaker 1: at a friend's house the other day. We did a 54 00:02:49,760 --> 00:02:54,600 Speaker 1: cookie swop, Like everybody baked cookies and then we put 55 00:02:54,639 --> 00:02:56,160 Speaker 1: them all out. There was like twenty of us and 56 00:02:56,200 --> 00:02:59,040 Speaker 1: we put all the cookie platters out on a table 57 00:02:59,680 --> 00:03:02,600 Speaker 1: and everyone went around and took home like four of 58 00:03:02,680 --> 00:03:08,320 Speaker 1: everyone else's cookies for themselves. My kids. You loved it 59 00:03:08,240 --> 00:03:13,520 Speaker 1: and crazy. Yeah. So okay, So New Year's Eve, you're 60 00:03:13,560 --> 00:03:15,320 Speaker 1: gonna be in Mexico. New Year's Day, you'll be with 61 00:03:15,360 --> 00:03:16,839 Speaker 1: your friends. That's really nice. 62 00:03:16,880 --> 00:03:18,519 Speaker 2: I'll be flying home from Mexico, so I'll probably be 63 00:03:18,520 --> 00:03:21,040 Speaker 2: a little depressed, but then New Year's Day, I will 64 00:03:21,040 --> 00:03:22,480 Speaker 2: be with my friends. 65 00:03:22,560 --> 00:03:25,280 Speaker 1: Yeah, that's nice. That always feeds yourself. I love being 66 00:03:25,320 --> 00:03:29,240 Speaker 1: about your friends. I really prioritize my girlfriends. I love 67 00:03:29,919 --> 00:03:32,040 Speaker 1: I love being around them. It always makes me feel 68 00:03:32,040 --> 00:03:35,080 Speaker 1: good when I am with them. What about like lately 69 00:03:35,160 --> 00:03:37,200 Speaker 1: with you? I'm sorry, interpt. 70 00:03:37,200 --> 00:03:39,240 Speaker 2: I just I feel like lately, ever since like the show, 71 00:03:39,520 --> 00:03:42,640 Speaker 2: I just see you with your friends, like very often 72 00:03:42,680 --> 00:03:47,040 Speaker 2: on have prioritize them. It's since the show has been 73 00:03:47,080 --> 00:03:50,480 Speaker 2: on pause. It's a very different feel, right, It's like. 74 00:03:50,640 --> 00:03:52,960 Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm I'm like, you know, I love the show 75 00:03:53,360 --> 00:03:55,520 Speaker 1: and I do hope that it keeps going. But in 76 00:03:55,560 --> 00:03:58,280 Speaker 1: the meantime, I'm like enjoying a little bit of the break, 77 00:03:58,880 --> 00:04:03,160 Speaker 1: right I am. I'm trying out new projects. I'm prioritizing friendships. 78 00:04:03,240 --> 00:04:07,040 Speaker 1: I really have extra time for my family. It's been nice. Yeah, 79 00:04:07,400 --> 00:04:12,320 Speaker 1: it's been good anyway. So you know, for many years, 80 00:04:12,320 --> 00:04:15,400 Speaker 1: Evan is not the partier than I am. I could 81 00:04:15,480 --> 00:04:20,080 Speaker 1: go out five nights a week, and he likes going 82 00:04:20,080 --> 00:04:22,400 Speaker 1: out about once a week, and then he's hit his 83 00:04:22,480 --> 00:04:25,920 Speaker 1: social max and he's busy. I mean, he works full time. 84 00:04:26,400 --> 00:04:29,320 Speaker 1: He's always with the kids at basketball, and he likes 85 00:04:29,320 --> 00:04:31,440 Speaker 1: to sit on the couch and he doesn't care. You know, 86 00:04:31,520 --> 00:04:33,800 Speaker 1: he's not ashamed of it. But he does like to 87 00:04:33,839 --> 00:04:36,000 Speaker 1: go out, like once a week, but that's his night out, 88 00:04:36,160 --> 00:04:40,000 Speaker 1: and that's fine. But New Year's we've got into this 89 00:04:40,200 --> 00:04:44,440 Speaker 1: routine of not doing anything. And I was okay with 90 00:04:44,480 --> 00:04:46,200 Speaker 1: that for a while, but now kind of feeling like, 91 00:04:46,920 --> 00:04:49,640 Speaker 1: you know, now one of my almost seventeen year olds 92 00:04:49,880 --> 00:04:53,000 Speaker 1: loves going out. So if he's gonna be out and 93 00:04:53,040 --> 00:04:55,320 Speaker 1: I have to wait up for him anyway, and I 94 00:04:55,400 --> 00:04:58,440 Speaker 1: probably have to pick him up, then I might as 95 00:04:58,520 --> 00:05:02,000 Speaker 1: well go out, right. So I don't know, we're trying 96 00:05:02,040 --> 00:05:04,240 Speaker 1: to decide now because we've, like for a decade, have 97 00:05:04,360 --> 00:05:05,200 Speaker 1: not done anything. 98 00:05:05,760 --> 00:05:07,720 Speaker 2: I don't love New Year's Eve and I don't love 99 00:05:07,800 --> 00:05:10,560 Speaker 2: going out, so both of those combined, I mean, Jeff 100 00:05:10,640 --> 00:05:14,120 Speaker 2: is it's always very surprising to people that know us 101 00:05:14,160 --> 00:05:18,200 Speaker 2: that Jeff is way more interested in going out at night. 102 00:05:19,000 --> 00:05:21,719 Speaker 1: Like, so maybe maybe I'll send Evan to your house 103 00:05:21,760 --> 00:05:24,000 Speaker 1: and you can hang on the cap at him. You know, 104 00:05:24,080 --> 00:05:27,159 Speaker 1: I love that, You know I love that Evan Goldschneider. Yeah, 105 00:05:27,200 --> 00:05:30,760 Speaker 1: he's a cutie. So let's see. So let's let's talk 106 00:05:30,800 --> 00:05:32,760 Speaker 1: about the year a little bit, so we are ready 107 00:05:32,800 --> 00:05:35,240 Speaker 1: at the top. You know, talked about some of the 108 00:05:35,279 --> 00:05:38,919 Speaker 1: ships and there's no denying there was shit, and on 109 00:05:39,040 --> 00:05:42,200 Speaker 1: both sides of the political aisle there were shits. Right. 110 00:05:42,360 --> 00:05:45,040 Speaker 1: That was ye, so divisive. I've never seen an election 111 00:05:45,160 --> 00:05:47,480 Speaker 1: like this in my life. 112 00:05:47,920 --> 00:05:51,680 Speaker 2: It's horrible. Process leading up to it was horrible. It's 113 00:05:52,120 --> 00:05:54,440 Speaker 2: I know that for some people they're they're still in morning. 114 00:05:54,480 --> 00:05:58,119 Speaker 2: Some people are thrilled penceil you ask, but divisive for sure. 115 00:05:59,279 --> 00:06:02,920 Speaker 1: Yeah, I just hopeful. I mean like, it is what 116 00:06:02,960 --> 00:06:07,680 Speaker 1: it is, So there's no point in being thrilled, upset 117 00:06:07,720 --> 00:06:11,320 Speaker 1: whatever it is, what it is. Now let's see, right, yes, 118 00:06:11,600 --> 00:06:15,640 Speaker 1: now let's see. So, Jen, what was the best thing 119 00:06:15,680 --> 00:06:18,520 Speaker 1: that happened to you this year? Something good? 120 00:06:19,320 --> 00:06:22,720 Speaker 2: No, it's like you know you always as a mom, 121 00:06:22,880 --> 00:06:26,279 Speaker 2: I my first thought is always like I always feel 122 00:06:26,279 --> 00:06:29,680 Speaker 2: good when good things happen to my kids. Right, So 123 00:06:29,800 --> 00:06:33,120 Speaker 2: it's that And my therapist would probably say learn to separate, 124 00:06:33,240 --> 00:06:37,120 Speaker 2: probably very dysfunctional, But I think about my kids just 125 00:06:37,160 --> 00:06:39,760 Speaker 2: being having good things happened to them. Zach got into 126 00:06:39,839 --> 00:06:45,520 Speaker 2: law school, which is which is so exciting. Rachel moved 127 00:06:45,520 --> 00:06:50,920 Speaker 2: into the city, which she absolutely loves, and she's working 128 00:06:51,240 --> 00:06:55,320 Speaker 2: in pr and she loves that, and so those things 129 00:06:55,960 --> 00:06:58,560 Speaker 2: occur to me. But probably that's the wrong way of 130 00:06:58,560 --> 00:07:00,200 Speaker 2: thinking about it, right, Like, no. 131 00:07:00,320 --> 00:07:03,400 Speaker 1: Why being a mom is such an amazing part of 132 00:07:03,400 --> 00:07:08,240 Speaker 1: your life. And also like it's not just your kids 133 00:07:08,279 --> 00:07:10,640 Speaker 1: accomplishing them Like they're accomplishing this because they have a 134 00:07:10,640 --> 00:07:15,000 Speaker 1: support system behind them and because they know that you're there. 135 00:07:15,040 --> 00:07:19,560 Speaker 1: I mean, don't take yourself out of your children's accomplishments. 136 00:07:19,720 --> 00:07:23,080 Speaker 2: I absolutely agree with that, But I like everything else, 137 00:07:23,120 --> 00:07:26,000 Speaker 2: you know, I want to have my own things going on, 138 00:07:26,080 --> 00:07:28,360 Speaker 2: and I think it's so helpful, especially for an empty nester. 139 00:07:28,880 --> 00:07:32,880 Speaker 2: So we've had a few really you know, fun things. 140 00:07:32,920 --> 00:07:35,360 Speaker 2: I mean, this podcast, well that happened last year. 141 00:07:35,720 --> 00:07:38,800 Speaker 1: But still but like we got renewed, We're yes, we 142 00:07:38,920 --> 00:07:40,360 Speaker 1: got nude. That was exciting. 143 00:07:40,840 --> 00:07:44,440 Speaker 2: I loved, I am loving having the segment that I'm 144 00:07:44,440 --> 00:07:47,560 Speaker 2: doing on page six. I don't know you guys, have 145 00:07:47,600 --> 00:07:50,240 Speaker 2: anyone's listening to it, but on page six I talk 146 00:07:50,280 --> 00:07:53,640 Speaker 2: about pop culture with Evan and Danny, Like that's been 147 00:07:53,760 --> 00:07:56,960 Speaker 2: really fun in a way to sort of separate out 148 00:07:57,000 --> 00:08:00,080 Speaker 2: of the housewives world. We don't discuss housewives, but we 149 00:08:00,120 --> 00:08:03,120 Speaker 2: discuss what's going on, you know, all around the world, 150 00:08:03,800 --> 00:08:06,840 Speaker 2: just pop culture, so nothing deep, and it's fun to 151 00:08:06,880 --> 00:08:11,120 Speaker 2: just sort of be still in front of the camera 152 00:08:11,240 --> 00:08:16,720 Speaker 2: a little. And but it's different dynamic, right, It's these 153 00:08:16,720 --> 00:08:18,880 Speaker 2: two fabulous men and we all love each other. It's 154 00:08:18,880 --> 00:08:21,640 Speaker 2: a big love fest and we laugh and we're a 155 00:08:21,640 --> 00:08:23,520 Speaker 2: little shady at times. But nothing that's going to get 156 00:08:23,520 --> 00:08:26,440 Speaker 2: me killed. So yeah, that's been really fun. What about you? 157 00:08:27,080 --> 00:08:30,040 Speaker 1: Yeah, the best thing that happened to me this year. 158 00:08:33,360 --> 00:08:36,080 Speaker 1: I don't know. It was a tough year. I mean 159 00:08:36,320 --> 00:08:39,160 Speaker 1: I think just that, like this is going to sound 160 00:08:39,160 --> 00:08:43,160 Speaker 1: silly and cliche, but just that everyone is like healthy 161 00:08:43,480 --> 00:08:48,120 Speaker 1: and happy, you know, Like I just like nothing, you know, 162 00:08:48,160 --> 00:08:52,320 Speaker 1: I had a challenging year. So in January, Aiden, my 163 00:08:52,320 --> 00:08:55,520 Speaker 1: my one of my older twins, we were at the 164 00:08:55,559 --> 00:08:58,920 Speaker 1: Madonna concert the night that he broke his knee, mean right, 165 00:09:00,000 --> 00:09:02,640 Speaker 1: and he broke his knee, he broke his leg. He 166 00:09:02,720 --> 00:09:08,880 Speaker 1: had a horrific surgery. He was home for a month 167 00:09:08,920 --> 00:09:12,079 Speaker 1: after that. He was in so much pain. It was 168 00:09:12,280 --> 00:09:16,719 Speaker 1: I was crying, like all day. I slept. I had 169 00:09:16,800 --> 00:09:19,080 Speaker 1: slept in a bed with him downstairs because he couldn't 170 00:09:19,080 --> 00:09:23,880 Speaker 1: move and so he was immobile. So it was a 171 00:09:24,000 --> 00:09:27,960 Speaker 1: really hard month. And then I homeschooled him and then 172 00:09:29,160 --> 00:09:33,440 Speaker 1: he finally made his way back into sports by May, 173 00:09:33,559 --> 00:09:37,080 Speaker 1: and in July he broke his shoulder. So it's been 174 00:09:37,960 --> 00:09:40,480 Speaker 1: you know, like watching your kids suffer through something and 175 00:09:40,520 --> 00:09:43,439 Speaker 1: I know that you've been through this too. It's really hard, 176 00:09:43,920 --> 00:09:46,720 Speaker 1: you know, it's hard. Now that all my kids are 177 00:09:46,760 --> 00:09:52,640 Speaker 1: like healthy and doing well, I'm kind of like savoring 178 00:09:54,080 --> 00:09:56,120 Speaker 1: that part of it. Like the fact that I'm not 179 00:09:56,280 --> 00:10:01,000 Speaker 1: like said about it. I'm getting is a thing. I 180 00:10:01,040 --> 00:10:01,360 Speaker 1: get that. 181 00:10:01,400 --> 00:10:03,160 Speaker 2: What they don't tell you about having kids is that 182 00:10:05,160 --> 00:10:09,000 Speaker 2: you are always, at least for me, I'm even in 183 00:10:09,000 --> 00:10:13,000 Speaker 2: my happiest moments, I'm a little nervous, like I'm always 184 00:10:13,400 --> 00:10:16,040 Speaker 2: or you know, I'm thrilled when my kids are happy. 185 00:10:16,120 --> 00:10:19,840 Speaker 2: If they're not, it affects me. It's a very difficult. 186 00:10:20,160 --> 00:10:22,560 Speaker 2: You know, you have this part of yourself that you 187 00:10:22,640 --> 00:10:25,760 Speaker 2: have no control over, right, and you shouldn't. I mean, 188 00:10:25,760 --> 00:10:27,320 Speaker 2: the kids have to live their own lives. It's how 189 00:10:27,320 --> 00:10:31,000 Speaker 2: you raise them. But you're always sort of just a. 190 00:10:30,720 --> 00:10:33,400 Speaker 1: Little bit on edge. Where are they what are they doing? 191 00:10:33,559 --> 00:10:37,920 Speaker 1: Are they good? Yeah? Especially now I two that are 192 00:10:37,960 --> 00:10:42,040 Speaker 1: gonna start driving soon, and I how do I do that? 193 00:10:42,120 --> 00:10:45,120 Speaker 1: Like I am said, I don't mind driving with them 194 00:10:45,120 --> 00:10:46,839 Speaker 1: and teaching them to drive and do it all the time. 195 00:10:47,880 --> 00:10:52,199 Speaker 1: But I'm so nervous for them to get their license. Yeah, nervous, 196 00:10:52,320 --> 00:10:56,679 Speaker 1: it's not that is not easy. Yeah, there's so much that. 197 00:10:56,800 --> 00:11:00,040 Speaker 1: I mean, I'm always worried because my daughter is a 198 00:11:00,320 --> 00:11:02,240 Speaker 1: chronic illness. You just type in my beads and that's 199 00:11:02,280 --> 00:11:04,600 Speaker 1: always kind of something that's you know, with me, I'm 200 00:11:04,600 --> 00:11:05,160 Speaker 1: thinking about. 201 00:11:05,200 --> 00:11:07,679 Speaker 2: And but then other stuff there. Yeah, when when both 202 00:11:07,760 --> 00:11:10,480 Speaker 2: my kids got their licenses, I was a nervous wrap. 203 00:11:11,720 --> 00:11:13,520 Speaker 2: I wouldn't even I couldn't be in the car with 204 00:11:13,559 --> 00:11:16,880 Speaker 2: them teaching them. So that was all about jeff. Oh, 205 00:11:16,880 --> 00:11:20,440 Speaker 2: I couldn't bear it. It was I freaked out, which 206 00:11:20,520 --> 00:11:22,880 Speaker 2: freaked them out. I just I had no. 207 00:11:24,000 --> 00:11:26,520 Speaker 1: But we also we haven't really been on many highways. 208 00:11:26,600 --> 00:11:29,800 Speaker 1: We haven't done anything super challenging. So that's the come 209 00:11:29,880 --> 00:11:32,240 Speaker 1: But okay, so what was the most challenging thing that 210 00:11:32,280 --> 00:11:34,959 Speaker 1: happened to you this year and how did you? 211 00:11:38,120 --> 00:11:41,679 Speaker 2: I would say that, well, actually, I've been looking at 212 00:11:41,679 --> 00:11:44,760 Speaker 2: these questions a little bit, and I would say that 213 00:11:46,040 --> 00:11:49,880 Speaker 2: it's challenging and rewarding to be an empty nester. I 214 00:11:49,960 --> 00:11:53,679 Speaker 2: know that again back to the kids, but there are 215 00:11:53,760 --> 00:11:57,280 Speaker 2: times where I've sort of walked around my house, and 216 00:11:57,320 --> 00:12:01,240 Speaker 2: especially with the show being on pause and and it's 217 00:12:02,200 --> 00:12:04,960 Speaker 2: trying to figure it all out. You know, I'm at 218 00:12:04,960 --> 00:12:07,719 Speaker 2: the age now fifty six and what does the rest 219 00:12:07,760 --> 00:12:10,719 Speaker 2: of my life look like. It's it's an interesting thing 220 00:12:10,760 --> 00:12:12,959 Speaker 2: to consider. And also like being in this house. I 221 00:12:13,000 --> 00:12:16,560 Speaker 2: mean this, I'm suburban New Jersey in this you know, 222 00:12:16,720 --> 00:12:20,640 Speaker 2: colonial with we're paying taxes for the schools, and like 223 00:12:20,880 --> 00:12:21,440 Speaker 2: what's the point? 224 00:12:21,520 --> 00:12:23,880 Speaker 1: So what are we? What is our next step? 225 00:12:23,960 --> 00:12:27,600 Speaker 2: So that's always on my mind and I think that 226 00:12:27,640 --> 00:12:30,800 Speaker 2: has been a challenge, but also it's been at times 227 00:12:30,800 --> 00:12:33,040 Speaker 2: of delight. My house is well not always need the 228 00:12:33,080 --> 00:12:35,280 Speaker 2: kids to come home a lot, but like you know, 229 00:12:35,520 --> 00:12:37,800 Speaker 2: just waking up jeff Lee's at six thirty every morning. 230 00:12:38,480 --> 00:12:40,480 Speaker 2: And there are days I'm really busy, and there are 231 00:12:40,559 --> 00:12:42,800 Speaker 2: days that I have nothing going on. The days that 232 00:12:42,840 --> 00:12:45,400 Speaker 2: I have nothing going on, I think I get in 233 00:12:45,440 --> 00:12:48,560 Speaker 2: a slump. I get a little depressed. And the days 234 00:12:48,600 --> 00:12:49,800 Speaker 2: that I'm yeah, but. 235 00:12:49,840 --> 00:12:51,360 Speaker 1: You had so much going on the other days, you 236 00:12:51,360 --> 00:12:54,839 Speaker 1: don't just savor those days. It's like I can relax today. 237 00:12:54,960 --> 00:12:57,080 Speaker 2: You know, I think it might seem like I have 238 00:12:57,200 --> 00:12:59,400 Speaker 2: so much going on, Like on social media, if you 239 00:12:59,440 --> 00:13:01,679 Speaker 2: follow myself for media, although I don't think I posted 240 00:13:01,679 --> 00:13:04,880 Speaker 2: that much recently, but I'm posting like events I'm going 241 00:13:04,880 --> 00:13:07,560 Speaker 2: to right and I'm I'm posting stuff that I'm doing, 242 00:13:07,880 --> 00:13:10,840 Speaker 2: which yeah, I mean that definitely takes time and keeps 243 00:13:10,840 --> 00:13:15,600 Speaker 2: me busy, but on a daily I'm not necessarily like 244 00:13:15,640 --> 00:13:17,760 Speaker 2: I do the page six thing. Once a week, you 245 00:13:17,800 --> 00:13:21,160 Speaker 2: and I record our podcast, you know, that's that's an 246 00:13:21,200 --> 00:13:23,320 Speaker 2: hour every couple weeks. 247 00:13:23,440 --> 00:13:25,920 Speaker 1: It's so I'm always. 248 00:13:25,600 --> 00:13:27,959 Speaker 2: Posting about those things or I'm going to an event, 249 00:13:28,120 --> 00:13:30,080 Speaker 2: or I'm but there's a lot of downtime for me 250 00:13:30,120 --> 00:13:33,240 Speaker 2: now without having the kids in the house, and you know, 251 00:13:33,320 --> 00:13:37,200 Speaker 2: I fill it with friends. And I actually knew this 252 00:13:37,320 --> 00:13:41,600 Speaker 2: year is working out, and but I'm always better when 253 00:13:41,640 --> 00:13:43,880 Speaker 2: I'm busier, when I've got something like my One of 254 00:13:43,960 --> 00:13:47,880 Speaker 2: my favorite times was when I was writing the song 255 00:13:47,880 --> 00:13:50,000 Speaker 2: when I was learning guitar and writing the song for 256 00:13:50,160 --> 00:13:52,040 Speaker 2: the end for the finale of the Housewives. 257 00:13:52,120 --> 00:13:53,280 Speaker 1: Oh yeah, that was a great song. 258 00:13:53,440 --> 00:13:55,280 Speaker 2: So that was one of my favorite things that happened 259 00:13:55,280 --> 00:13:59,680 Speaker 2: this year, was writing that silly song. That was just 260 00:14:00,640 --> 00:14:03,040 Speaker 2: I love doing that so much. It's so it was 261 00:14:03,040 --> 00:14:07,160 Speaker 2: so creative and it was I don't know. It was 262 00:14:07,200 --> 00:14:11,200 Speaker 2: so satisfying for me. And then, of course, in true 263 00:14:11,280 --> 00:14:13,360 Speaker 2: gen festal form, I didn't pick up the guitar again 264 00:14:13,640 --> 00:14:14,360 Speaker 2: when it was over. 265 00:14:14,880 --> 00:14:19,880 Speaker 1: So, but oh didn't you write Challenge Part two? Yeah? 266 00:14:19,880 --> 00:14:23,520 Speaker 1: But then yeah, that was pretty soon after. Oh okay, oh, 267 00:14:23,560 --> 00:14:25,800 Speaker 1: and you haven't written. You know, I play the piano 268 00:14:26,040 --> 00:14:29,760 Speaker 1: so and I know every time my house is empty, 269 00:14:29,840 --> 00:14:33,920 Speaker 1: I play. I can't play when people are home because really, yeah, 270 00:14:33,960 --> 00:14:36,880 Speaker 1: because they don't like the noise from it. But also, 271 00:14:37,160 --> 00:14:40,040 Speaker 1: like I don't know, they like make fun. 272 00:14:39,920 --> 00:14:42,440 Speaker 3: Of me, right, they make fun of me, to think 273 00:14:42,440 --> 00:14:45,560 Speaker 3: at my house they associate piano with like something I 274 00:14:45,640 --> 00:14:48,760 Speaker 3: forced them to do when they were little, and I 275 00:14:48,840 --> 00:14:50,040 Speaker 3: really just went back to it. 276 00:14:50,080 --> 00:14:53,760 Speaker 1: But I'm very good. I'd like, I want to get 277 00:14:53,800 --> 00:14:57,120 Speaker 1: a I want to get like a ten to twenty 278 00:14:57,160 --> 00:15:01,320 Speaker 1: song rotation that I can play just by heart. And 279 00:15:02,040 --> 00:15:04,200 Speaker 1: I want to I want to play in a band 280 00:15:04,240 --> 00:15:06,600 Speaker 1: one day. That's like a bucket list thing for me, 281 00:15:06,800 --> 00:15:09,800 Speaker 1: just for one day, just one night only, Jackie Goldschnighter, 282 00:15:09,800 --> 00:15:10,960 Speaker 1: one night only. I love that. 283 00:15:11,200 --> 00:15:15,600 Speaker 2: Playing a band, Yeah, I love that. So twenty twenty five, baby, yeah, 284 00:15:15,680 --> 00:15:16,640 Speaker 2: let's see, let's see. 285 00:15:16,680 --> 00:15:18,160 Speaker 1: I have a couple of projects that I want to 286 00:15:18,560 --> 00:15:22,120 Speaker 1: accomplish in twenty twenty five. But funny thing that happened 287 00:15:22,160 --> 00:15:24,160 Speaker 1: to you this year? I can't think. I don't know 288 00:15:24,240 --> 00:15:27,560 Speaker 1: any like I'm sure I have. I'm sure we're going 289 00:15:27,600 --> 00:15:29,480 Speaker 1: to sign off from this, and I'm that was the 290 00:15:29,520 --> 00:15:31,560 Speaker 1: funny thing that happened to me this year. I'm trying 291 00:15:31,560 --> 00:15:34,240 Speaker 1: to remember, Like I did laugh a lot this year, 292 00:15:34,280 --> 00:15:37,200 Speaker 1: but I don't know. I don't know if there was 293 00:15:37,240 --> 00:15:38,680 Speaker 1: anything particularly really funny. 294 00:15:39,560 --> 00:15:43,560 Speaker 2: Well, I went to Vietnam with Jeff this year, and 295 00:15:44,840 --> 00:15:48,600 Speaker 2: we laughed our way through that trip. Whether it was 296 00:15:48,720 --> 00:15:52,560 Speaker 2: we went on this uh these motor scooters what they called, 297 00:15:53,280 --> 00:15:55,800 Speaker 2: I don't know what they could pads, the mopads or 298 00:15:55,840 --> 00:16:01,000 Speaker 2: whatever it is, so we circle around them. I'm want 299 00:16:01,040 --> 00:16:04,400 Speaker 2: to say, was it in it's gone. I don't remember exactly, 300 00:16:04,880 --> 00:16:10,080 Speaker 2: but uh, we stopped off. The tour had a stopping off. 301 00:16:10,120 --> 00:16:13,760 Speaker 2: It was like a food tour, and we were so 302 00:16:13,960 --> 00:16:15,920 Speaker 2: sick to our stomachs by the time it ended. There 303 00:16:16,040 --> 00:16:18,520 Speaker 2: was so it went on for hours, and I just 304 00:16:18,600 --> 00:16:22,360 Speaker 2: remember like he and I trying to be so polite 305 00:16:22,720 --> 00:16:26,600 Speaker 2: to these tour guides and both of us being there's 306 00:16:26,640 --> 00:16:29,920 Speaker 2: just and you know, and being with him, just him, 307 00:16:29,960 --> 00:16:33,400 Speaker 2: would that far away. We always have were always able 308 00:16:33,400 --> 00:16:35,600 Speaker 2: to make fun of each other and laugh, and that 309 00:16:35,680 --> 00:16:37,640 Speaker 2: whole trip we were it was one of those like 310 00:16:38,320 --> 00:16:43,520 Speaker 2: moments in time where we were in awe of Vietnam 311 00:16:43,520 --> 00:16:46,280 Speaker 2: but also just hysterical the entire time. The culture is 312 00:16:46,320 --> 00:16:48,760 Speaker 2: so different than ours and you know, getting used to 313 00:16:48,800 --> 00:16:53,480 Speaker 2: that and being I don't know, on fishing boats and 314 00:16:53,560 --> 00:16:55,880 Speaker 2: we it was fun and we laughed a lot. 315 00:16:56,800 --> 00:16:59,360 Speaker 1: Yeah, probably traveling. Yeah, we went to we took the 316 00:16:59,400 --> 00:17:01,600 Speaker 1: kids to Europe the first time. We went to Italy. 317 00:17:02,160 --> 00:17:04,320 Speaker 1: We spent a week in Rome with the kids, and 318 00:17:04,359 --> 00:17:08,080 Speaker 1: it was just amazing. I am like, I was flabbergasted 319 00:17:08,119 --> 00:17:10,200 Speaker 1: by how many people watch the show that were in Rome. 320 00:17:10,600 --> 00:17:15,359 Speaker 1: I got stopped constantly, Like Vietnam, you watched the show, 321 00:17:15,520 --> 00:17:23,160 Speaker 1: especially people from like London, people from Canada. They love 322 00:17:23,320 --> 00:17:26,080 Speaker 1: these shows. They watch all of them. I don't think 323 00:17:26,119 --> 00:17:28,120 Speaker 1: I watched any shows from overseas. 324 00:17:28,800 --> 00:17:31,479 Speaker 2: It's true though, I remember when I was in in Rams, 325 00:17:31,800 --> 00:17:35,359 Speaker 2: I got stopped a couple times. Yeah, like in weird 326 00:17:35,400 --> 00:17:36,840 Speaker 2: places like shopping or whatever. 327 00:17:36,960 --> 00:17:49,240 Speaker 1: You're Worldwidefesla, I'm worldwide, baby. Let's fast forward just for 328 00:17:49,320 --> 00:17:52,040 Speaker 1: one second, since we're on the topic of shows, I 329 00:17:52,040 --> 00:17:53,560 Speaker 1: have to tell you I just watched a show. I'm 330 00:17:53,560 --> 00:17:56,600 Speaker 1: not going to ruin it obviously for anyone, and I 331 00:17:56,640 --> 00:17:59,040 Speaker 1: really liked it all the way through, and then my 332 00:17:59,280 --> 00:18:03,680 Speaker 1: mind was is freaking blown in the last episode. It's 333 00:18:03,720 --> 00:18:10,080 Speaker 1: called Disclaimer. Have you watched that? No with what's her name? 334 00:18:11,600 --> 00:18:14,800 Speaker 1: Oh god, that blonde actress. I'm blinking right now. That 335 00:18:15,000 --> 00:18:18,320 Speaker 1: was a hold on, let me remember hold on one second. 336 00:18:18,960 --> 00:18:23,520 Speaker 1: It was Kevin Kleine n Klein, the woman who's married 337 00:18:23,520 --> 00:18:28,960 Speaker 1: to Sean Penn, who's absolutely Robin Wright. No, no, she 338 00:18:29,119 --> 00:18:31,120 Speaker 1: was married to him a million years ago. 339 00:18:33,560 --> 00:18:35,480 Speaker 2: He's married Sean Penn. Now I thought he was just 340 00:18:35,600 --> 00:18:38,760 Speaker 2: new young Sorry, okay, yeah. 341 00:18:38,600 --> 00:18:41,480 Speaker 1: I think I think Leila George is married to Sean Penn. 342 00:18:41,680 --> 00:18:44,800 Speaker 1: Oh no, she was married to him for two years. 343 00:18:45,000 --> 00:18:48,640 Speaker 1: She's much much younger than him. She's absolutely stunning. It's 344 00:18:48,680 --> 00:18:53,480 Speaker 1: called Disclaimer. Okay, really good. The last episode really blew 345 00:18:53,520 --> 00:18:55,560 Speaker 1: me away. So watch it. If you haven't watched it, 346 00:18:55,600 --> 00:18:58,639 Speaker 1: watch it, well, absolutely watch it. This was I watched 347 00:18:58,680 --> 00:19:00,440 Speaker 1: a lot of TV this year. I have to say 348 00:19:00,840 --> 00:19:02,600 Speaker 1: I did a lot of TV. Did you watch that? 349 00:19:02,880 --> 00:19:05,119 Speaker 2: Yeah, Well that's the thing is that like when I 350 00:19:05,200 --> 00:19:09,359 Speaker 2: am home and I have the day, I'm such a slug. Also, 351 00:19:09,920 --> 00:19:12,280 Speaker 2: so we talked about this, Jack, But like if I'm 352 00:19:12,320 --> 00:19:13,720 Speaker 2: home and I've got nothing going on, I'm in my 353 00:19:13,800 --> 00:19:15,080 Speaker 2: bed period. 354 00:19:15,080 --> 00:19:18,440 Speaker 1: Really, Oh I'm cleaning out clothes. People aren't, no way, 355 00:19:19,080 --> 00:19:22,080 Speaker 1: but I'm crazy. Yeah, well I'm crazy too, But I'm 356 00:19:22,080 --> 00:19:25,200 Speaker 1: crazy in the bed, and I well crazy in the bed. 357 00:19:25,560 --> 00:19:27,879 Speaker 1: You know. Well don't let's not be silly. 358 00:19:28,920 --> 00:19:32,000 Speaker 2: But I am streaming and eating and talking on the 359 00:19:32,000 --> 00:19:34,639 Speaker 2: phone and staring at the TV while I'm looking at 360 00:19:34,680 --> 00:19:38,000 Speaker 2: my other device whatever. But yeah, I stream a lot. 361 00:19:38,119 --> 00:19:40,080 Speaker 2: I'm very grateful for what. 362 00:19:40,119 --> 00:19:41,960 Speaker 1: Do you watch reality shows? Or do you watch because 363 00:19:41,960 --> 00:19:44,120 Speaker 1: I know people are always looking for like a show 364 00:19:44,160 --> 00:19:44,639 Speaker 1: to watch. 365 00:19:45,000 --> 00:19:47,960 Speaker 2: Yes, I definitely watch reality shows. So it's a lot 366 00:19:47,960 --> 00:19:49,840 Speaker 2: of that. So you know, we've talked about this. But 367 00:19:50,080 --> 00:19:51,440 Speaker 2: I don't know if you know this about me, But 368 00:19:51,480 --> 00:19:53,280 Speaker 2: I'm a Housewives junkie. 369 00:19:53,640 --> 00:19:54,679 Speaker 1: So you watch all of them? 370 00:19:54,760 --> 00:19:57,160 Speaker 2: I'm just kidding, but no, I do. I watch most 371 00:19:57,200 --> 00:19:58,840 Speaker 2: of them, not all of them, but I watch most 372 00:19:58,880 --> 00:20:01,879 Speaker 2: of them. Yeah, and I have watched New York this season. 373 00:20:02,160 --> 00:20:06,760 Speaker 2: I haven't. I need to watch Salt Lake City. I'm 374 00:20:06,800 --> 00:20:11,600 Speaker 2: behind on Beverly Hills just by like one episode. But 375 00:20:11,680 --> 00:20:15,240 Speaker 2: I've watched all the Potomac me too. I watched all 376 00:20:15,280 --> 00:20:20,680 Speaker 2: of Orange County. That was fantastic. Yep, yeah, I'm but yeah, 377 00:20:20,720 --> 00:20:21,879 Speaker 2: I gotta watch Salt Lake City. 378 00:20:22,200 --> 00:20:23,840 Speaker 1: I heard it's great, so well. Yeah. 379 00:20:24,000 --> 00:20:27,040 Speaker 2: So it's a lot of time spent on reality TV 380 00:20:27,320 --> 00:20:30,920 Speaker 2: for sure. And then Jeff is always suggesting something that 381 00:20:31,040 --> 00:20:33,359 Speaker 2: I don't know. We're always what do we just watch 382 00:20:34,560 --> 00:20:39,000 Speaker 2: My God Cross with Alex? The guy's name is Alex Cross. 383 00:20:39,240 --> 00:20:40,840 Speaker 1: Oh yeah, that's James Patterson. 384 00:20:41,440 --> 00:20:44,520 Speaker 2: Yes, yeah, yeah, which I loved until I didn't read 385 00:20:44,520 --> 00:20:45,120 Speaker 2: those books. 386 00:20:45,440 --> 00:20:50,080 Speaker 1: Yeah. Watch. We watch a lot of House Hunters. We 387 00:20:50,200 --> 00:20:52,879 Speaker 1: love it. Play it like a game. Yeah, so like 388 00:20:52,960 --> 00:20:55,600 Speaker 1: we pause after they've seen all the houses. You know 389 00:20:55,640 --> 00:20:57,920 Speaker 1: how it works, right, like the real estate agent takes. 390 00:20:58,119 --> 00:21:00,199 Speaker 1: We only watched the international ones so we can like 391 00:21:00,240 --> 00:21:03,200 Speaker 1: fantasize about living somewhere else and not that New Jersey 392 00:21:03,320 --> 00:21:07,800 Speaker 1: is not like fabulous. But they they take the person 393 00:21:07,880 --> 00:21:13,960 Speaker 1: or couple to three different homes and then we pause 394 00:21:14,000 --> 00:21:17,359 Speaker 1: it and we bet which house they're gonna choose, and 395 00:21:17,720 --> 00:21:20,960 Speaker 1: it's so much fun. But it's like formulae, like one 396 00:21:21,000 --> 00:21:23,199 Speaker 1: person always wants to live in the city center, and 397 00:21:23,200 --> 00:21:25,359 Speaker 1: one person always wants to live in the suburbs, and 398 00:21:25,400 --> 00:21:27,320 Speaker 1: one person always wants to be by the water, and 399 00:21:27,320 --> 00:21:30,720 Speaker 1: one person always wants to be walking distance to the town. 400 00:21:30,880 --> 00:21:33,439 Speaker 1: You know. So it's like, but it's really fun and 401 00:21:33,480 --> 00:21:36,240 Speaker 1: it's mindless, and it's a half hour and it's easy. 402 00:21:36,280 --> 00:21:38,520 Speaker 1: It's all about the mindless TV. I mean, listen, and 403 00:21:38,600 --> 00:21:42,080 Speaker 1: we love Amazing Race. Actually, do you watch that? No, 404 00:21:42,200 --> 00:21:46,760 Speaker 1: we watch every season. We love it. I don't watch 405 00:21:46,880 --> 00:21:49,240 Speaker 1: HG TV only because it's on. 406 00:21:49,760 --> 00:21:55,479 Speaker 2: It runs on us in the Manic ever has it on? 407 00:21:55,880 --> 00:21:59,320 Speaker 1: Yeah, and they have a subtitles? Yeah? Yeah? What about 408 00:21:59,359 --> 00:22:02,679 Speaker 1: what about movie anything? You know, I haven't seen that 409 00:22:02,720 --> 00:22:04,840 Speaker 1: many movies in the movie theater. I've watched a few 410 00:22:04,840 --> 00:22:08,120 Speaker 1: on airplanes that I was like, I watched that one 411 00:22:08,119 --> 00:22:09,840 Speaker 1: that we talked about a long time ago. We did 412 00:22:09,840 --> 00:22:14,720 Speaker 1: an episode you and I on what was the topic, 413 00:22:14,800 --> 00:22:17,600 Speaker 1: but it was we were talking about the Anne Hathaway movie. 414 00:22:18,920 --> 00:22:22,680 Speaker 1: Maybe it was Our Intimacy one or I don't remember, 415 00:22:22,720 --> 00:22:25,919 Speaker 1: but we were like, oh, it was about being middle 416 00:22:25,920 --> 00:22:28,879 Speaker 1: aged women and being sort of like the forgotten years, 417 00:22:29,119 --> 00:22:33,000 Speaker 1: you know. Yeah, And I watched that Anne Hathaway movie 418 00:22:33,000 --> 00:22:36,240 Speaker 1: where she falls in love with the lead in the 419 00:22:36,320 --> 00:22:41,760 Speaker 1: rock band and he's much younger than her. Yeah, and yeah, 420 00:22:41,920 --> 00:22:44,440 Speaker 1: I remember that. You were like, I loved that movie. Yeah, 421 00:22:44,440 --> 00:22:47,919 Speaker 1: I love The movie that I'm dying to see is like, no, 422 00:22:48,000 --> 00:22:50,080 Speaker 1: I'd like to give you. But every movie I'm dying 423 00:22:50,080 --> 00:22:52,240 Speaker 1: to see is like it's in the theater for like 424 00:22:52,280 --> 00:22:54,280 Speaker 1: a minute and then it's out, like it's just in 425 00:22:54,320 --> 00:22:54,800 Speaker 1: the city. 426 00:22:55,359 --> 00:23:00,400 Speaker 2: So I haven't discovered. I have rediscovered movie theaters this year. 427 00:23:01,280 --> 00:23:04,600 Speaker 1: I like them too, but I'm not going to travel 428 00:23:04,600 --> 00:23:07,320 Speaker 1: an hour for it. So we saw We went to 429 00:23:07,359 --> 00:23:12,960 Speaker 1: the premiere of that that Roadhouse one. That was good, fine, 430 00:23:13,200 --> 00:23:16,200 Speaker 1: you know. Me and my girlfriend went on a girl 431 00:23:16,280 --> 00:23:21,159 Speaker 1: date to see Beetlejuice and that was fine, you know, 432 00:23:21,240 --> 00:23:24,160 Speaker 1: But I don't think I've seen anything really mind blowing. 433 00:23:24,240 --> 00:23:27,240 Speaker 1: But I'm dying to see Honora. You know that movie Anora, 434 00:23:27,760 --> 00:23:30,679 Speaker 1: And I'm also dying to see I love a biopic, 435 00:23:31,160 --> 00:23:34,840 Speaker 1: and I'm dying to see the Timothy shallow May one 436 00:23:35,119 --> 00:23:38,960 Speaker 1: Bob Dylan. I'm not so really, I don't. 437 00:23:39,040 --> 00:23:41,239 Speaker 2: I'm not a huge Timothy shallow May fan, and I'm 438 00:23:41,280 --> 00:23:42,520 Speaker 2: not a huge Bob Dylan fan. 439 00:23:42,600 --> 00:23:44,760 Speaker 1: I'll see it. We'll say, well, I'm not either. But 440 00:23:44,840 --> 00:23:47,000 Speaker 1: my favorite movies of all time A lot of them 441 00:23:47,080 --> 00:23:51,800 Speaker 1: have been is it biopic or biopic? It's biopic, right, 442 00:23:52,040 --> 00:23:54,280 Speaker 1: I don't know. I don't know either. 443 00:23:54,800 --> 00:23:56,760 Speaker 2: I don't know, but I do love the ones, especially 444 00:23:56,760 --> 00:23:59,920 Speaker 2: when they're about musicians. I mean, yeah, so like John 445 00:24:00,080 --> 00:24:03,840 Speaker 2: Even was good. 446 00:24:03,920 --> 00:24:06,679 Speaker 1: We use my favorite and growing up, my favorite favorite 447 00:24:06,720 --> 00:24:09,359 Speaker 1: movie growing up was Great Balls of Fire. I loved 448 00:24:09,359 --> 00:24:13,960 Speaker 1: it so so hot. There's a scene in that movie 449 00:24:14,040 --> 00:24:16,400 Speaker 1: that still makes my hair stand up. It's like when 450 00:24:16,440 --> 00:24:19,199 Speaker 1: he's playing a whole lot of shaking going on and 451 00:24:19,240 --> 00:24:22,359 Speaker 1: the whole bar starts dancing. Oh my god, like scene 452 00:24:22,440 --> 00:24:23,600 Speaker 1: still think about. 453 00:24:23,359 --> 00:24:26,960 Speaker 2: If that movie was out now, okay, because what when when? 454 00:24:28,600 --> 00:24:31,760 Speaker 1: What's his name? Who? What's his name? No? Yeah, but 455 00:24:31,800 --> 00:24:34,560 Speaker 1: who what's his name? That he played Great Balls of Fires? Who? Oh? 456 00:24:34,680 --> 00:24:37,320 Speaker 1: Jerry Lee Lewis right, Jerry Lewis He married like a 457 00:24:37,320 --> 00:24:40,640 Speaker 1: thirteen year old or something, And like I don't remember 458 00:24:40,680 --> 00:24:44,800 Speaker 1: at the time even discussing that, like it wasn't even 459 00:24:45,280 --> 00:24:48,640 Speaker 1: right or even like in the nineties, like Jerry Seinfeld 460 00:24:48,680 --> 00:24:52,560 Speaker 1: was dating a seventeen year old Shawna. Yeah, I love 461 00:24:53,240 --> 00:24:56,800 Speaker 1: oh you could never although you do have Bill Belichick 462 00:24:56,880 --> 00:24:59,800 Speaker 1: dating like, Oh, I can't even with that, right, I mean, 463 00:24:59,800 --> 00:25:02,879 Speaker 1: it's just what's the appeal? I don't what, I don't know. Anyway, 464 00:25:02,880 --> 00:25:04,960 Speaker 1: we're going off on a tangent. But wait, I want 465 00:25:04,960 --> 00:25:07,159 Speaker 1: to talk about my favorite movie. Did you grow emotionally 466 00:25:07,240 --> 00:25:08,240 Speaker 1: this year? Wait? 467 00:25:08,440 --> 00:25:10,800 Speaker 2: I'm not fun talking about the movies because I want 468 00:25:10,840 --> 00:25:14,479 Speaker 2: to do it that I loved. I did love Wicked, 469 00:25:14,480 --> 00:25:16,800 Speaker 2: by the way, but but everybody, Oh, I didn't see 470 00:25:16,400 --> 00:25:19,040 Speaker 2: it amazing and we saw it at the IPIC, which 471 00:25:19,080 --> 00:25:23,159 Speaker 2: is like undercovers with the chicken fingers, and it was 472 00:25:23,200 --> 00:25:23,760 Speaker 2: just incredible. 473 00:25:23,800 --> 00:25:26,120 Speaker 1: But anyway, Oh, can I just tell you one thing 474 00:25:26,160 --> 00:25:29,480 Speaker 1: though that bothers me about Wicked is that Kristin Chenowith 475 00:25:29,600 --> 00:25:32,080 Speaker 1: used to like me and message. I used to talk 476 00:25:32,080 --> 00:25:35,040 Speaker 1: to her sometimes on Message and she followed me and 477 00:25:36,400 --> 00:25:39,000 Speaker 1: she doesn't like Teresa and so she has unfollowed me. 478 00:25:39,320 --> 00:25:42,959 Speaker 2: So I kind of that is heartbreaking. Although you do 479 00:25:43,040 --> 00:25:45,240 Speaker 2: know that Kristin chen well, she is in Wicked, she 480 00:25:45,320 --> 00:25:51,200 Speaker 2: is in this one, which was I understand that, and 481 00:25:51,280 --> 00:25:53,640 Speaker 2: I feel badly for you because I there's first of all, 482 00:25:53,640 --> 00:25:56,600 Speaker 2: Wicked was just unbelievable, but also I love me some 483 00:25:56,760 --> 00:25:58,920 Speaker 2: Kristin Chenow with I wish you hadn't told me that. 484 00:26:00,119 --> 00:26:04,520 Speaker 2: Now I'm sure she's lovely. I was Dimonzel, the very 485 00:26:04,560 --> 00:26:08,479 Speaker 2: minor friendship. Well this so the movie that I loved 486 00:26:08,800 --> 00:26:11,879 Speaker 2: was called A Real Pain and it was with Kieran 487 00:26:11,960 --> 00:26:19,199 Speaker 2: Coulkien and Jesse Eisenberg and it's about these cousins. I 488 00:26:19,200 --> 00:26:23,280 Speaker 2: don't want to give anything away, but they travel. Their 489 00:26:23,320 --> 00:26:28,960 Speaker 2: grandmother dies and so they travel. I'm going to get 490 00:26:28,960 --> 00:26:31,040 Speaker 2: this wrong, and it's so ridiculous. I want to say 491 00:26:31,040 --> 00:26:35,040 Speaker 2: they travel to I think it's Poland, right, Yeah, I 492 00:26:35,080 --> 00:26:36,920 Speaker 2: was going to say Germany. And it wasn't. Thank you, No, 493 00:26:37,040 --> 00:26:41,359 Speaker 2: I heard of it. It was really quite incredible, and 494 00:26:42,960 --> 00:26:48,600 Speaker 2: the acting in it was so superb over the top ridiculous. 495 00:26:48,920 --> 00:26:55,400 Speaker 2: Narent's the one who's in succession. Yes, correct, is unbelievable, unbelievable, 496 00:26:55,560 --> 00:26:57,800 Speaker 2: and he plays like this, this kind of a manic 497 00:26:58,720 --> 00:27:02,919 Speaker 2: young man, and Jesse Eisenberg plays this very uptight person 498 00:27:02,920 --> 00:27:05,520 Speaker 2: and they But the beautiful thing about it was it 499 00:27:05,560 --> 00:27:10,320 Speaker 2: was a lot about the Holocaust and finding their grandmother's 500 00:27:11,040 --> 00:27:14,720 Speaker 2: childhood home and talking about they I don't want to 501 00:27:14,720 --> 00:27:18,719 Speaker 2: give anything away, but it was so beautifully done. Really 502 00:27:18,960 --> 00:27:22,040 Speaker 2: haven't seen a movie like that where I walked away 503 00:27:24,480 --> 00:27:27,600 Speaker 2: just you know, feeling like I had been sort of transported. Yep, 504 00:27:27,640 --> 00:27:28,680 Speaker 2: it's called a real pain. 505 00:27:37,320 --> 00:27:41,560 Speaker 1: Tell me if you have grown emotionally or spiritually this year, 506 00:27:42,320 --> 00:27:42,880 Speaker 1: certainly hope. 507 00:27:42,920 --> 00:27:44,640 Speaker 2: So, since I pay almost two hundred dollars a week 508 00:27:44,680 --> 00:27:45,960 Speaker 2: for therapy, yeah, tell you. 509 00:27:46,040 --> 00:27:48,440 Speaker 1: I had therapy this morning and. 510 00:27:49,760 --> 00:27:55,840 Speaker 2: We spoke about about Rachel, about my daughter, and she 511 00:27:55,960 --> 00:27:57,800 Speaker 2: was going through something over the last couple of days. 512 00:27:59,359 --> 00:28:01,840 Speaker 2: And I've learned she's twenty two years old. When she 513 00:28:01,960 --> 00:28:03,840 Speaker 2: goes through something. We started out talking about this, but 514 00:28:03,920 --> 00:28:05,439 Speaker 2: when she goes through something, not to take it on 515 00:28:05,480 --> 00:28:10,160 Speaker 2: as my own, and not that I'm always there when 516 00:28:10,160 --> 00:28:13,960 Speaker 2: she needs me, but she could be going something through something. 517 00:28:14,000 --> 00:28:15,880 Speaker 2: I attached to it in my mind. I can't let 518 00:28:15,880 --> 00:28:17,280 Speaker 2: it go. It's on my mind all day. And then 519 00:28:17,320 --> 00:28:19,879 Speaker 2: she resolves whatever it is, and I'm you know, I 520 00:28:19,880 --> 00:28:21,840 Speaker 2: spend a whole day it's just a little dysfunctional. So 521 00:28:21,880 --> 00:28:24,840 Speaker 2: I feel like I've grown in that. In this particular instance, 522 00:28:24,920 --> 00:28:27,040 Speaker 2: I kind of separated. I said, she's twenty two, and 523 00:28:27,080 --> 00:28:29,280 Speaker 2: I trust that she could handle this, and I'm going 524 00:28:29,359 --> 00:28:31,560 Speaker 2: to give her the space to handle it, so that 525 00:28:31,560 --> 00:28:32,480 Speaker 2: that's I. 526 00:28:32,400 --> 00:28:34,760 Speaker 1: Hope one way. And my son who is in law school, 527 00:28:34,800 --> 00:28:36,080 Speaker 1: who is. 528 00:28:36,000 --> 00:28:38,680 Speaker 2: Not doesn't have time now to call mommy every day, 529 00:28:38,760 --> 00:28:42,160 Speaker 2: and you know, so to also take a step back 530 00:28:42,240 --> 00:28:45,280 Speaker 2: and know that he's doing his thing and not to 531 00:28:45,360 --> 00:28:50,120 Speaker 2: be overbearing, which I tend to be. So I feel 532 00:28:50,160 --> 00:28:53,320 Speaker 2: like I've grown in both of those days. Maybe also 533 00:28:53,360 --> 00:28:56,960 Speaker 2: I've gotten I've gotten more patient this year. I think 534 00:28:57,040 --> 00:29:02,160 Speaker 2: that show being on pause has been so strange for us, 535 00:29:02,240 --> 00:29:04,280 Speaker 2: and I have been doing it like you have, Jack. Obviously, 536 00:29:04,360 --> 00:29:05,920 Speaker 2: I've only been doing this for I did it for 537 00:29:05,960 --> 00:29:07,160 Speaker 2: two years and different yeas. 538 00:29:07,240 --> 00:29:08,760 Speaker 1: But you know what I say, I think that that 539 00:29:08,760 --> 00:29:11,000 Speaker 1: that that makes you want it more than me, Like 540 00:29:11,040 --> 00:29:13,080 Speaker 1: not that I don't want it, but like I've had 541 00:29:13,120 --> 00:29:15,320 Speaker 1: it for a long time, and I'm okay, if this 542 00:29:15,360 --> 00:29:17,640 Speaker 1: is the end of the road, I'm totally fine. It's 543 00:29:17,680 --> 00:29:23,160 Speaker 1: not about it just got started with the excitement. The 544 00:29:23,280 --> 00:29:26,320 Speaker 1: not knowing. Yeah, that bothers me. I'd like either to 545 00:29:26,760 --> 00:29:30,040 Speaker 1: know what my job's going to be or to have closure. Yeah, 546 00:29:30,080 --> 00:29:31,120 Speaker 1: I mean, that's that's what I mean. 547 00:29:31,160 --> 00:29:33,239 Speaker 2: My patience though it's like and everyone's always asking us, 548 00:29:33,280 --> 00:29:35,920 Speaker 2: right and we don't we have no idea and guessing 549 00:29:35,960 --> 00:29:36,720 Speaker 2: game and all of that. 550 00:29:36,880 --> 00:29:42,320 Speaker 1: So patients, Okay, what about you. I have grown emotionally. 551 00:29:42,760 --> 00:29:45,920 Speaker 1: I've had to well, you know, I'm still you know, 552 00:29:46,000 --> 00:29:49,000 Speaker 1: in recovery, and i still make like baby steps every day. 553 00:29:49,040 --> 00:29:53,200 Speaker 1: And it's not it's not super easy for me. It's 554 00:29:53,520 --> 00:29:58,760 Speaker 1: easier or harder. No, Well, the problem is that, like recovery, 555 00:29:59,200 --> 00:30:01,080 Speaker 1: getting rid of like the big stuff, like the not 556 00:30:01,200 --> 00:30:03,800 Speaker 1: eating getting rid of that was great. I was so 557 00:30:03,840 --> 00:30:07,160 Speaker 1: excited adding new foods to my diet. Great, so excited. 558 00:30:07,720 --> 00:30:10,640 Speaker 1: But it's like the little things, like the nitty gritty 559 00:30:10,840 --> 00:30:15,920 Speaker 1: like it's like the not being afraid of specific foods. 560 00:30:16,360 --> 00:30:19,280 Speaker 1: It's like the not feeling guilty after a meal. It's 561 00:30:19,280 --> 00:30:22,440 Speaker 1: like the not overthinking before a restaurant. Like the little 562 00:30:22,560 --> 00:30:24,880 Speaker 1: teeny tiny day to day things. Sometimes they are a 563 00:30:24,920 --> 00:30:28,080 Speaker 1: little bit hard for me. I've gained some weight over 564 00:30:28,120 --> 00:30:30,640 Speaker 1: the past few months, and that's been a little bit 565 00:30:30,680 --> 00:30:34,440 Speaker 1: hard for me. Not because I don't I mean, the 566 00:30:34,480 --> 00:30:38,160 Speaker 1: trade off is worth it. The trade off of having 567 00:30:38,160 --> 00:30:42,680 Speaker 1: that freedom is worth it. It's just it doesn't seem fair 568 00:30:42,720 --> 00:30:46,760 Speaker 1: to me because I'm not like going crazy, I'm not 569 00:30:47,840 --> 00:30:51,760 Speaker 1: eating everything that I love to eat. I still work 570 00:30:51,800 --> 00:30:55,040 Speaker 1: out daily and like to gain weight when you're not 571 00:30:55,120 --> 00:30:59,960 Speaker 1: doing anything that warrants gaining weight is hard, especially when 572 00:31:00,280 --> 00:31:02,840 Speaker 1: like so many people around me are slimming down, you know. 573 00:31:03,080 --> 00:31:07,120 Speaker 1: So that's been hard. But also I feel like I 574 00:31:07,120 --> 00:31:10,479 Speaker 1: feel very empowered that, like I'm in control and how 575 00:31:10,520 --> 00:31:13,480 Speaker 1: I feel about it, and so I'm proud. I choose 576 00:31:13,520 --> 00:31:16,960 Speaker 1: to be proud of it instead of being ashamed of 577 00:31:17,000 --> 00:31:20,120 Speaker 1: it because I'm still like, I'm still me. It doesn't matter, 578 00:31:20,280 --> 00:31:22,200 Speaker 1: you know, a few pounds up, a few pounds down. 579 00:31:22,480 --> 00:31:26,320 Speaker 1: I'm enjoying letting myself fluctuate because I've never had that before. 580 00:31:26,560 --> 00:31:28,040 Speaker 1: You know, for twenty years, I had to keep my 581 00:31:28,080 --> 00:31:30,080 Speaker 1: weight within a one pound range or else. It like 582 00:31:30,160 --> 00:31:33,840 Speaker 1: drove me crazy, and I don't weigh myself, but I 583 00:31:33,880 --> 00:31:37,400 Speaker 1: know I've gained weight. So just being okay with that, 584 00:31:37,680 --> 00:31:39,880 Speaker 1: I feel like, is something that I've never had before. 585 00:31:40,160 --> 00:31:42,280 Speaker 1: Even in my first like two years of recovery, the 586 00:31:42,320 --> 00:31:45,600 Speaker 1: weight was really uncomfortable for me. Like now it's it's 587 00:31:45,640 --> 00:31:49,400 Speaker 1: just part of me and like it is what it is, right, 588 00:31:49,480 --> 00:31:52,000 Speaker 1: So I feel like that's a big, big growth for me. 589 00:31:53,240 --> 00:31:56,600 Speaker 1: I've also calmed down down one thing I'm really proud 590 00:31:56,640 --> 00:32:01,480 Speaker 1: of this year. It's no surprise the show was not 591 00:32:01,640 --> 00:32:04,479 Speaker 1: great for me this year, right, And it's fine and 592 00:32:04,520 --> 00:32:07,320 Speaker 1: it's done, and like the hatred has stopped. But for 593 00:32:07,480 --> 00:32:11,920 Speaker 1: a month, for like a month, I got horrific social 594 00:32:12,000 --> 00:32:17,360 Speaker 1: media hates. And that's fine. But I'm really proud of 595 00:32:18,240 --> 00:32:21,560 Speaker 1: signing off of social media for a month. I went 596 00:32:21,640 --> 00:32:23,520 Speaker 1: off at the beginning of August and I didn't go 597 00:32:23,600 --> 00:32:27,040 Speaker 1: back until the beginning of September or the end of August. 598 00:32:27,120 --> 00:32:30,560 Speaker 1: And that was so great because all the shit really 599 00:32:30,640 --> 00:32:34,080 Speaker 1: just exists in your phone, right, Like, yeah, I really 600 00:32:34,080 --> 00:32:36,160 Speaker 1: hates you, Your friends don't really hate you. My friends 601 00:32:36,160 --> 00:32:39,400 Speaker 1: couldn't give a shit about it, right, Like your family 602 00:32:39,400 --> 00:32:42,240 Speaker 1: doesn't care. So it really just exists in your phone. 603 00:32:43,040 --> 00:32:46,200 Speaker 1: So I think that was one of the wisest things 604 00:32:46,320 --> 00:32:49,840 Speaker 1: that I've ever done, was just the leading it for 605 00:32:49,920 --> 00:32:54,400 Speaker 1: a month. And I think I would have caused myself 606 00:32:54,440 --> 00:32:56,360 Speaker 1: a lot of distress had I not. And it makes 607 00:32:56,400 --> 00:33:00,600 Speaker 1: me want to in the new year kind of change 608 00:33:00,640 --> 00:33:03,920 Speaker 1: my relationship with social media more. Yeah, I think it's 609 00:33:03,920 --> 00:33:05,760 Speaker 1: really no. I think that's a great goal. I think 610 00:33:05,880 --> 00:33:08,000 Speaker 1: for all of us. Did you hear the TikTok is 611 00:33:08,000 --> 00:33:12,040 Speaker 1: getting abolished in January. I didn't hear January. I thought 612 00:33:12,080 --> 00:33:14,320 Speaker 1: I'd have to go through your more legal processes. 613 00:33:14,360 --> 00:33:15,800 Speaker 2: But I could be wrong. I think I just heard 614 00:33:15,800 --> 00:33:18,080 Speaker 2: that like this morning. I probably heard it on Titch. 615 00:33:18,200 --> 00:33:20,880 Speaker 2: Just got on TikTok too. Guys follow me, and so 616 00:33:21,000 --> 00:33:23,760 Speaker 2: I took Jackie Goldschneider. I'm scared to look at it. 617 00:33:23,840 --> 00:33:25,600 Speaker 1: I haven't looked at it at what the page is, 618 00:33:25,920 --> 00:33:27,400 Speaker 1: but I have to have you come up for me. 619 00:33:27,480 --> 00:33:29,600 Speaker 1: Like usually if it was that like Jackie Gold one 620 00:33:29,680 --> 00:33:31,640 Speaker 1: hundred or something like that, I should check what my 621 00:33:31,760 --> 00:33:36,560 Speaker 1: name is. Because someone took Jackie Goldschneider. I'm fairly confident 622 00:33:36,600 --> 00:33:39,240 Speaker 1: there's not other Jackie gold Schnyders walking around. I'm at 623 00:33:39,320 --> 00:33:43,080 Speaker 1: Jackie Gold one hundred and I only share eating disorder content. 624 00:33:43,400 --> 00:33:47,360 Speaker 1: But I don't know what the other Jackie gold Schnyder. 625 00:33:47,760 --> 00:33:50,040 Speaker 2: According to what I saw on TikTok, It's not going 626 00:33:50,120 --> 00:33:52,440 Speaker 2: to matter much longer anyway, but I guess we'll see 627 00:33:52,920 --> 00:33:53,560 Speaker 2: you know when. 628 00:33:53,400 --> 00:33:55,920 Speaker 1: I gos ANITA Gala this year. I hosted the National 629 00:33:56,000 --> 00:33:59,240 Speaker 1: Eating Disorder Association Gala this year and so amazing one 630 00:33:59,320 --> 00:34:01,760 Speaker 1: of the most amazing highlights of my year, Like I 631 00:34:01,760 --> 00:34:06,880 Speaker 1: can't believe how I try. I want to say full circle, 632 00:34:06,880 --> 00:34:08,520 Speaker 1: but it's not full circle because I wasn't at that 633 00:34:08,560 --> 00:34:11,040 Speaker 1: point to begin with. But like half circle? How half 634 00:34:11,080 --> 00:34:14,440 Speaker 1: circle I've come? Yeah, I love it all right? Favorite 635 00:34:14,440 --> 00:34:19,560 Speaker 1: song this year? I mean, the thing is that, like 636 00:34:19,680 --> 00:34:23,040 Speaker 1: I'm always listening to old songs. I'm you know, I'm listening. 637 00:34:23,520 --> 00:34:26,479 Speaker 2: I put on It's totally embarrassing, but I'm like listening 638 00:34:26,480 --> 00:34:30,840 Speaker 2: to eighties music and seventies music and more than huge huge. 639 00:34:30,880 --> 00:34:34,840 Speaker 2: I don't listen to pop. I'm a huge all rock person. 640 00:34:34,880 --> 00:34:36,680 Speaker 2: I know that always freaks me out about you. Oh, 641 00:34:36,760 --> 00:34:38,360 Speaker 2: I love it weird much. 642 00:34:38,920 --> 00:34:43,480 Speaker 1: There there were a few songs that I loved this year, 643 00:34:43,520 --> 00:34:47,080 Speaker 1: but I have to say my favorite is there's a 644 00:34:47,080 --> 00:34:49,200 Speaker 1: band called Cage the Elephant. Do you listen to them? 645 00:34:50,880 --> 00:34:52,640 Speaker 1: So they put out a new album a song called 646 00:34:52,760 --> 00:34:55,000 Speaker 1: Neon Pill that just gets it. I just love it. 647 00:34:55,000 --> 00:34:57,680 Speaker 1: I love Hosier too. Oh he's so good. 648 00:34:58,200 --> 00:35:02,880 Speaker 2: I mean you're talking like we're going jingle ball in tomorrow. Actually, yeah, 649 00:35:03,120 --> 00:35:05,480 Speaker 2: it's gonna be so much fun. I'm so excited. But 650 00:35:05,640 --> 00:35:08,399 Speaker 2: if if truth be told, I don't I mean Katie Perry, right, 651 00:35:08,719 --> 00:35:16,120 Speaker 2: Sizza's Sabrina Shaboozy Shaboozy, I don't think so good, I 652 00:35:16,160 --> 00:35:19,040 Speaker 2: have to say in terms of pop Sabrina Carpenter song 653 00:35:19,160 --> 00:35:22,719 Speaker 2: taste is so I have a teenage daughter, and like, 654 00:35:22,760 --> 00:35:25,960 Speaker 2: so I feel like an idiot sometimes when I like, 655 00:35:26,160 --> 00:35:29,000 Speaker 2: I'm like running, you know, when I run, I put 656 00:35:29,000 --> 00:35:31,040 Speaker 2: on music, I like, I don't want to run to 657 00:35:31,080 --> 00:35:33,320 Speaker 2: the stuff that like she's listening to with her friends 658 00:35:33,320 --> 00:35:35,440 Speaker 2: and doing tiktoks too, you know, because then I feel like, 659 00:35:36,120 --> 00:35:38,480 Speaker 2: I don't know, I feel like I'm right, it's her style. 660 00:35:38,600 --> 00:35:41,160 Speaker 1: I know. No, I totally get that. I totally get 661 00:35:41,200 --> 00:35:43,800 Speaker 1: that funny, like it's so funny and this is off topic, 662 00:35:43,840 --> 00:35:46,319 Speaker 1: but like god, how did how did we get old 663 00:35:46,360 --> 00:35:46,920 Speaker 1: so fast? 664 00:35:47,080 --> 00:35:49,399 Speaker 2: I was just I mean, you're talking. I can't even 665 00:35:49,400 --> 00:35:51,160 Speaker 2: have that discussion with you. You're a baby. 666 00:35:51,719 --> 00:35:55,200 Speaker 1: I'm not a baby, Jet, you're a baby. Comparatively, I 667 00:35:55,200 --> 00:36:00,960 Speaker 1: mean six, you are, I'm year and a half. Okay, 668 00:36:01,000 --> 00:36:04,520 Speaker 1: you're forty eight. I don't know, Jackie. The difference is 669 00:36:06,960 --> 00:36:07,560 Speaker 1: it's huge. 670 00:36:07,640 --> 00:36:10,960 Speaker 2: I mean, fifty six and at forty eight, I don't 671 00:36:10,960 --> 00:36:15,360 Speaker 2: even think I was feeling my age like after fifty 672 00:36:15,560 --> 00:36:17,920 Speaker 2: my age No, I mean like, I don't think I 673 00:36:17,960 --> 00:36:22,560 Speaker 2: was even that qu like now fifty six. It's things 674 00:36:22,560 --> 00:36:27,040 Speaker 2: are different, Like my body feels different. Even sometimes when 675 00:36:27,040 --> 00:36:31,239 Speaker 2: I would watch myself on camera, the way that I 676 00:36:31,400 --> 00:36:34,359 Speaker 2: move felt I was watching myself. And of course we're 677 00:36:34,360 --> 00:36:36,120 Speaker 2: our own worst critics, but I felt like I was 678 00:36:36,160 --> 00:36:38,560 Speaker 2: moving like an old person, you know. And also that 679 00:36:38,600 --> 00:36:41,120 Speaker 2: probably is one of the reasons why I started exercising 680 00:36:41,120 --> 00:36:44,720 Speaker 2: again and lifting weights. But like I remember watching back 681 00:36:44,840 --> 00:36:47,520 Speaker 2: when Rachel Fuda had this had the pajama party. 682 00:36:48,520 --> 00:36:49,080 Speaker 1: Do you remember that? 683 00:36:49,719 --> 00:36:54,240 Speaker 2: Yeah, silly stuff, but watching myself walk from her boyer 684 00:36:54,400 --> 00:36:59,480 Speaker 2: into like where her bar area was or is, and 685 00:36:59,520 --> 00:37:02,640 Speaker 2: I remember, We're just seeing that back and thinking, you 686 00:37:02,840 --> 00:37:04,080 Speaker 2: you walk like an old person. 687 00:37:05,040 --> 00:37:06,880 Speaker 1: You know. It's like I never saw you walk like 688 00:37:06,880 --> 00:37:08,680 Speaker 1: an old well you would, I mean you probably wouldn't 689 00:37:08,719 --> 00:37:11,000 Speaker 1: because you're not looking for that. But it's weird. It's 690 00:37:11,040 --> 00:37:14,520 Speaker 1: like the aging thing is is, Yeah, maybe working out 691 00:37:14,520 --> 00:37:19,480 Speaker 1: we'll help with that. You find strength. Okay, So let's see. 692 00:37:19,960 --> 00:37:21,840 Speaker 1: Let's see what else. The best meal you had this 693 00:37:21,920 --> 00:37:26,120 Speaker 1: year was your best meal in Vietnam? Vietnam, Oh my god, 694 00:37:27,480 --> 00:37:30,560 Speaker 1: my best meal if anyone is visiting Rome, was in 695 00:37:31,520 --> 00:37:35,320 Speaker 1: like by far, hands down, no comparison. In a town 696 00:37:35,480 --> 00:37:39,520 Speaker 1: called Trustevere, there was a restaurant called Taverna Treloosa that 697 00:37:39,719 --> 00:37:43,320 Speaker 1: was I mean just Evan and I were just staring 698 00:37:43,360 --> 00:37:45,120 Speaker 1: at each other the whole meal, like, did you try this? 699 00:37:45,320 --> 00:37:49,480 Speaker 1: Did you try this? It was unbelievable that it was unbelievable. Yeah, 700 00:37:49,480 --> 00:37:55,840 Speaker 1: it was so good. Favorite trend, favorite trend? Gosh, what's yours? 701 00:37:56,000 --> 00:38:00,040 Speaker 1: I am so surprised to hear myself say that I 702 00:37:59,840 --> 00:38:05,760 Speaker 1: love the barrel jean, do you I that's so funny 703 00:38:05,760 --> 00:38:07,239 Speaker 1: that you say that. I think you have to. 704 00:38:07,200 --> 00:38:12,239 Speaker 2: Find the right one bow legged. So I didn't like 705 00:38:12,280 --> 00:38:14,440 Speaker 2: it either until I found the right one. I just 706 00:38:14,480 --> 00:38:18,080 Speaker 2: bought a pair of page and I love them really 707 00:38:18,520 --> 00:38:22,440 Speaker 2: and yes, yes, And I can't put on skinn jeans anymore. 708 00:38:22,480 --> 00:38:24,200 Speaker 1: No, I don't wear my skinny jeans. I'm wearing wide 709 00:38:24,239 --> 00:38:28,239 Speaker 1: leg right now. But I have not tried barrel jeans yet. 710 00:38:28,440 --> 00:38:30,839 Speaker 1: Maybe I will try them. I'm shocked that I love them, 711 00:38:30,840 --> 00:38:33,640 Speaker 1: but I love them all right. I love that. I 712 00:38:33,760 --> 00:38:36,480 Speaker 1: actually nice. This year, I've been wearing a lot of 713 00:38:36,480 --> 00:38:40,319 Speaker 1: those New Balance three twenty seven sneakers. Yeah. Oh, I've 714 00:38:40,360 --> 00:38:42,200 Speaker 1: sorted wearing a lot of sneakers. I like it, like 715 00:38:42,239 --> 00:38:45,719 Speaker 1: a chunky white sneaker. I've been like really into. So 716 00:38:46,520 --> 00:38:49,200 Speaker 1: all right, so let's let's get into our hopes for 717 00:38:49,239 --> 00:38:55,080 Speaker 1: the new year. Do you make resolutions? No? 718 00:38:55,080 --> 00:38:58,040 Speaker 2: No. When I was younger, it was always lose weight. 719 00:38:58,120 --> 00:39:00,400 Speaker 2: Right every year, it was the same thing, and up 720 00:39:00,480 --> 00:39:02,680 Speaker 2: until the New Year, I would bringe, like literally, I 721 00:39:02,719 --> 00:39:05,600 Speaker 2: would think it's coming, it's coming on New Year's Day, 722 00:39:05,640 --> 00:39:06,880 Speaker 2: and then on New Ye's Day, I would say, well, 723 00:39:06,920 --> 00:39:09,200 Speaker 2: it's New Year's Day. You have to eat and I'm not. 724 00:39:09,239 --> 00:39:12,040 Speaker 2: You know, we've talked about that that. I've also had 725 00:39:12,920 --> 00:39:16,560 Speaker 2: suffered with eating disorders at times in my life, but. 726 00:39:18,280 --> 00:39:19,400 Speaker 1: That was always the resolution. 727 00:39:19,480 --> 00:39:22,880 Speaker 2: It was always to lose weight, which I don't do anymore, 728 00:39:23,400 --> 00:39:26,560 Speaker 2: like at all, And I don't really do resolutions, but. 729 00:39:26,520 --> 00:39:30,280 Speaker 1: Do you know what, It's not that I do likes 730 00:39:30,680 --> 00:39:34,560 Speaker 1: like hardcore resolutions, but there are things that I'd like 731 00:39:34,640 --> 00:39:37,800 Speaker 1: to see happen. They're mostly like career goals because obviously 732 00:39:37,840 --> 00:39:41,480 Speaker 1: I can't resolve to have my children behave in certain ways. 733 00:39:41,480 --> 00:39:42,839 Speaker 1: You know, when they're good kids, I just want them 734 00:39:42,840 --> 00:39:47,920 Speaker 1: to be happy, So they're mostly like career goals. I 735 00:39:47,920 --> 00:39:50,480 Speaker 1: have a lot of career goals and a lot of ideas, 736 00:39:50,719 --> 00:39:52,520 Speaker 1: And every day I throw shit at the wall and 737 00:39:52,560 --> 00:39:55,720 Speaker 1: see what sticks, and ninety nine percent of it doesn't stick, 738 00:39:55,840 --> 00:39:58,520 Speaker 1: but that one percent that does is really exciting. So 739 00:39:59,080 --> 00:40:01,680 Speaker 1: I think I have like a whole bunch of things 740 00:40:01,719 --> 00:40:05,279 Speaker 1: that I have to consistently remind myself to stick with 741 00:40:05,800 --> 00:40:09,239 Speaker 1: because I love immedia gratification. But you know, this year 742 00:40:09,280 --> 00:40:11,480 Speaker 1: I read this book Atomic Habits. Do you read that? 743 00:40:12,600 --> 00:40:15,759 Speaker 1: And it was talking about God. They had the best 744 00:40:15,760 --> 00:40:18,279 Speaker 1: analogy and it was like, you know, you leave an 745 00:40:18,320 --> 00:40:23,239 Speaker 1: ice cube on a counter in a room, and if 746 00:40:23,280 --> 00:40:28,520 Speaker 1: you gradually heat the room up from like zero degrees 747 00:40:28,920 --> 00:40:31,840 Speaker 1: to thirty one degrees, nothing is going to happen to 748 00:40:31,920 --> 00:40:34,720 Speaker 1: that ice cube. But the minute it hits thirty two degrees, 749 00:40:34,760 --> 00:40:36,640 Speaker 1: that ice cube is going to start to melt. Right, 750 00:40:36,960 --> 00:40:40,120 Speaker 1: So it's everything you did up until that point that 751 00:40:40,600 --> 00:40:43,319 Speaker 1: prepare that ice cube to melt. It wasn't just that 752 00:40:43,360 --> 00:40:45,720 Speaker 1: one thing of hitting thirty two degrees that made it happen. 753 00:40:45,800 --> 00:40:47,840 Speaker 1: It was all the steps before that, Right, So I 754 00:40:47,880 --> 00:40:50,759 Speaker 1: have to consistently remind myself that planting the seeds and 755 00:40:50,840 --> 00:40:54,440 Speaker 1: the little things that don't actually make anything like go boom. 756 00:40:54,960 --> 00:40:58,279 Speaker 1: Are what leads up to that you know, gratifying moment 757 00:40:58,320 --> 00:41:01,560 Speaker 1: where something does happen for you, So planting a lot 758 00:41:01,600 --> 00:41:04,120 Speaker 1: of seeds, you know, and so I have to stick 759 00:41:04,120 --> 00:41:06,200 Speaker 1: with it. That's my resume definitely. That's actually something I 760 00:41:06,239 --> 00:41:06,640 Speaker 1: did learn. 761 00:41:06,760 --> 00:41:08,879 Speaker 2: I have to say this year, this past year, is that, 762 00:41:10,320 --> 00:41:14,359 Speaker 2: like I can, I hate the word manifest and let 763 00:41:14,360 --> 00:41:16,880 Speaker 2: me not use that word, but but I do have 764 00:41:16,920 --> 00:41:20,480 Speaker 2: an ability to think, wow, what about this and then 765 00:41:21,120 --> 00:41:24,320 Speaker 2: put it into play, which I think that I struggled 766 00:41:24,320 --> 00:41:26,400 Speaker 2: with for so long. I mean, I created a business 767 00:41:26,480 --> 00:41:28,680 Speaker 2: and I always say this is going back when I 768 00:41:28,719 --> 00:41:31,279 Speaker 2: was fifty. But the reason that I stuck with it 769 00:41:31,360 --> 00:41:34,320 Speaker 2: was because I brought people into it, and I people 770 00:41:34,480 --> 00:41:38,400 Speaker 2: invested emotionally in it and financially and so you know, 771 00:41:38,440 --> 00:41:41,080 Speaker 2: in f major and so there was no squirming out 772 00:41:41,120 --> 00:41:43,799 Speaker 2: of it, because MY tendency through the years has been 773 00:41:43,840 --> 00:41:46,600 Speaker 2: to have a big idea and then you know, squirm 774 00:41:46,760 --> 00:41:50,880 Speaker 2: and and sort of just like not really you know, dedicated, But. 775 00:41:50,920 --> 00:41:52,600 Speaker 1: You busted your ass with that. I remember the first 776 00:41:52,640 --> 00:41:54,080 Speaker 1: time I met you years ago. 777 00:41:57,040 --> 00:41:59,000 Speaker 2: No I know, but that was again, I mean, I 778 00:41:59,000 --> 00:42:00,839 Speaker 2: I had put myself into busines where I couldn't square 779 00:42:00,840 --> 00:42:04,239 Speaker 2: them out. So but but I have this past year, 780 00:42:04,280 --> 00:42:05,640 Speaker 2: I've had like what about this? 781 00:42:05,960 --> 00:42:06,560 Speaker 1: What about this? 782 00:42:06,719 --> 00:42:10,000 Speaker 2: And actually putting that into motion, you know, like the 783 00:42:10,000 --> 00:42:14,160 Speaker 2: Housewives thing. I got a call from a casting director 784 00:42:14,200 --> 00:42:17,360 Speaker 2: and then that I didn't have to do much except 785 00:42:17,400 --> 00:42:18,600 Speaker 2: to show up, you know what I mean, I didn't. 786 00:42:18,600 --> 00:42:20,720 Speaker 1: I wasn't creating a show or creating something for myself. 787 00:42:20,760 --> 00:42:23,840 Speaker 2: That was more like I got an opportunity and I 788 00:42:23,880 --> 00:42:27,760 Speaker 2: happily took it right, but actually coming up with stuff 789 00:42:27,760 --> 00:42:30,920 Speaker 2: now again, while we're we don't know what the future is, 790 00:42:31,160 --> 00:42:33,680 Speaker 2: you know, of the show, and I've been able to 791 00:42:33,760 --> 00:42:36,800 Speaker 2: do some things I don't know that I'm I'm pleased 792 00:42:36,800 --> 00:42:39,239 Speaker 2: that I've been able to put things in motion this year, 793 00:42:39,480 --> 00:42:41,360 Speaker 2: and I will I hope, I hope that I'll be 794 00:42:41,360 --> 00:42:42,120 Speaker 2: able to do that again. 795 00:42:42,960 --> 00:42:45,640 Speaker 1: Yeah, it's kind of exciting not knowing what will happen. 796 00:42:45,800 --> 00:42:50,280 Speaker 1: Like as long as my the people I love are healthy, 797 00:42:51,239 --> 00:42:54,880 Speaker 1: then I'm kind of like excited to see like what happens. 798 00:42:55,200 --> 00:42:55,440 Speaker 1: You know. 799 00:42:55,640 --> 00:42:59,600 Speaker 2: You know, I have a friend who is just had 800 00:42:59,600 --> 00:43:02,160 Speaker 2: some just found out that he's having some health issues, 801 00:43:02,200 --> 00:43:07,600 Speaker 2: some serious ones, and yeah, I mean it just changes. 802 00:43:07,280 --> 00:43:10,920 Speaker 1: Everything right in an instant, right, and I'm yeah, And. 803 00:43:10,920 --> 00:43:12,719 Speaker 2: I want to say when I think about the coming year, 804 00:43:12,840 --> 00:43:15,640 Speaker 2: my part of part of it. I'm not trying to 805 00:43:15,640 --> 00:43:19,279 Speaker 2: say this that I'm so altruistic, but like, I just 806 00:43:19,280 --> 00:43:21,320 Speaker 2: think about my dear friend and I want to be 807 00:43:21,320 --> 00:43:26,279 Speaker 2: able to be as strong for her and make this 808 00:43:26,640 --> 00:43:31,680 Speaker 2: if I can, in any way easier, and like it'll 809 00:43:31,719 --> 00:43:33,799 Speaker 2: be a good year if I can help. I mean, 810 00:43:33,840 --> 00:43:37,920 Speaker 2: I had another friend years back who was diagnosed with 811 00:43:37,960 --> 00:43:42,600 Speaker 2: ovarian cancer and for a few years she passed and 812 00:43:43,040 --> 00:43:47,560 Speaker 2: this friend won't but thank god. But anyway, the point 813 00:43:47,600 --> 00:43:52,360 Speaker 2: is that it was hard. It was really hard to 814 00:43:52,400 --> 00:43:55,759 Speaker 2: be a close friend of someone going through that way, 815 00:43:55,760 --> 00:44:01,160 Speaker 2: harder for her than it was for me. And as 816 00:44:01,160 --> 00:44:02,640 Speaker 2: I look when I look back at it, I think 817 00:44:02,680 --> 00:44:05,920 Speaker 2: I did everything that I could to make it easier 818 00:44:05,920 --> 00:44:08,160 Speaker 2: for her. You know, That's the only thing that was 819 00:44:08,160 --> 00:44:10,040 Speaker 2: gratifying in any way about it, is that I think 820 00:44:10,080 --> 00:44:11,000 Speaker 2: I helped make it. 821 00:44:11,200 --> 00:44:14,400 Speaker 1: Yeah, you're a really good friend. I'm not trying to 822 00:44:14,400 --> 00:44:16,080 Speaker 1: be like I think the important thing that I want 823 00:44:16,120 --> 00:44:19,000 Speaker 1: to carry into the new year is that like there's 824 00:44:19,080 --> 00:44:22,759 Speaker 1: never there's never a year where everything is great. There's 825 00:44:22,800 --> 00:44:25,719 Speaker 1: never a year where everything's bad. There's never a time 826 00:44:25,760 --> 00:44:27,839 Speaker 1: in your life. You know. I used to wait a 827 00:44:27,880 --> 00:44:31,239 Speaker 1: lot and say I'll do this when things ease up, 828 00:44:31,239 --> 00:44:34,560 Speaker 1: and I'll do this when I'm not like said about something, 829 00:44:34,600 --> 00:44:37,279 Speaker 1: And there's never going to be that time. You just 830 00:44:37,280 --> 00:44:39,960 Speaker 1: got to like do what you do and let life 831 00:44:40,760 --> 00:44:41,440 Speaker 1: be life, you know. 832 00:44:41,480 --> 00:44:43,399 Speaker 2: And no one gets away Jack, That's what I tell 833 00:44:43,440 --> 00:44:47,440 Speaker 2: my kids. No one gets away, no matter what in 834 00:44:48,200 --> 00:44:49,680 Speaker 2: it might be a small thing that you think is 835 00:44:49,719 --> 00:44:50,759 Speaker 2: small or big or not. 836 00:44:50,920 --> 00:44:54,920 Speaker 1: But the struggles real period, full stop. That's I guess. Yeah. 837 00:44:54,960 --> 00:44:56,920 Speaker 1: And we got these drones flying over New Jersey and 838 00:44:56,960 --> 00:44:59,160 Speaker 1: who knows what the inside of them? Right, I don't 839 00:44:59,200 --> 00:45:01,520 Speaker 1: talk about those. That's freaks. How we actually make it 840 00:45:01,560 --> 00:45:03,680 Speaker 1: to the new year, give me God forbid? That is 841 00:45:04,160 --> 00:45:08,759 Speaker 1: it's in my chai. Wow. Yes, people intend if we 842 00:45:08,840 --> 00:45:09,800 Speaker 1: find we're taking. 843 00:45:09,560 --> 00:45:11,719 Speaker 2: Pictures of them, I don't get it, and no one 844 00:45:11,719 --> 00:45:13,120 Speaker 2: can figure it out, I know. 845 00:45:13,400 --> 00:45:13,640 Speaker 1: Yeah. 846 00:45:14,480 --> 00:45:17,360 Speaker 2: Yeah, let's hope you're still here on Earth without the 847 00:45:17,400 --> 00:45:21,760 Speaker 2: Martians twenty in them. 848 00:45:21,840 --> 00:45:27,880 Speaker 1: Okay, So message for listeners next year, God, I would say, 849 00:45:30,400 --> 00:45:34,800 Speaker 1: follow through on the things that you are dreaming about, 850 00:45:35,360 --> 00:45:38,480 Speaker 1: because it's really easy to let your dreams die in 851 00:45:38,520 --> 00:45:41,480 Speaker 1: your head because things take effort, you know, and be 852 00:45:41,600 --> 00:45:44,239 Speaker 1: okay with rejection. I'm saying that out loud for me 853 00:45:44,520 --> 00:45:48,480 Speaker 1: also because rejections are part of it and I hate rejection. 854 00:45:48,719 --> 00:45:51,279 Speaker 1: But yeah, yeah, well. 855 00:45:51,200 --> 00:45:56,000 Speaker 2: I said, I don't really make don't really make resolutions, 856 00:45:56,480 --> 00:46:00,279 Speaker 2: but I would recommend therapy for anyone who's not in 857 00:46:00,400 --> 00:46:04,520 Speaker 2: his because I do feel like each year I I 858 00:46:04,560 --> 00:46:06,799 Speaker 2: do grow. I grow, like we talked about a little 859 00:46:06,840 --> 00:46:08,560 Speaker 2: bit emotion bestationally and. 860 00:46:09,200 --> 00:46:11,840 Speaker 1: Yeah, therapy is the greatest gift you can give yourself. 861 00:46:12,000 --> 00:46:16,600 Speaker 2: I would agree with that. I would agree with that. Okay, then, 862 00:46:17,040 --> 00:46:19,600 Speaker 2: well listen, and I also hope in twenty twenty five, 863 00:46:19,640 --> 00:46:22,799 Speaker 2: you guys keep listening to us, and I hope that 864 00:46:22,880 --> 00:46:25,719 Speaker 2: we are. I don't know if either we're amusing you, 865 00:46:26,040 --> 00:46:27,840 Speaker 2: or you can relate, or you don't feel and we 866 00:46:27,920 --> 00:46:29,840 Speaker 2: talk about certain things, maybe you don't feel so alone. 867 00:46:31,640 --> 00:46:34,040 Speaker 2: You know, we try. I think with Jersey Jays, we 868 00:46:34,120 --> 00:46:38,080 Speaker 2: both tried to be honest and open and because that's it, right, 869 00:46:38,120 --> 00:46:41,640 Speaker 2: It's all about connecting with people. So I hope we 870 00:46:41,640 --> 00:46:43,719 Speaker 2: get to continue that in twenty twenty five. Yeah, we've 871 00:46:43,719 --> 00:46:44,959 Speaker 2: had some fantastic guests. 872 00:46:45,000 --> 00:46:49,920 Speaker 1: Some we have here. It's your favorite. I just have 873 00:46:50,320 --> 00:46:51,600 Speaker 1: such a thing from my ambilliti. 874 00:46:51,600 --> 00:46:53,920 Speaker 2: Iknew you're going to say that. I knew you were 875 00:46:53,920 --> 00:46:56,359 Speaker 2: going to say that. I really do like I love her. 876 00:46:56,440 --> 00:46:59,799 Speaker 1: I love that she's an unabashed nerd. I love how 877 00:46:59,840 --> 00:47:02,759 Speaker 1: she stands by love fiction. She's such a talented actress, 878 00:47:02,800 --> 00:47:05,440 Speaker 1: like everything. I love everything about her. I know you do. 879 00:47:05,560 --> 00:47:09,640 Speaker 2: And I loved love her and loved that episode. 880 00:47:10,239 --> 00:47:12,200 Speaker 1: And I think one. 881 00:47:12,120 --> 00:47:14,560 Speaker 2: That really affected me was Maria Minunos, which we did 882 00:47:14,680 --> 00:47:16,360 Speaker 2: pretty recently, and I thought. 883 00:47:16,239 --> 00:47:18,120 Speaker 1: Oh yeah, we called each other after that. We were 884 00:47:18,200 --> 00:47:22,480 Speaker 1: just like flabergasted. She is a force, she really is. Yeah. 885 00:47:22,520 --> 00:47:24,719 Speaker 1: So that was a good one, so good one. Some 886 00:47:24,760 --> 00:47:28,240 Speaker 1: great guests in twenty twenty five and some fun topics 887 00:47:28,480 --> 00:47:35,480 Speaker 1: and some some more success And I love you. I 888 00:47:35,560 --> 00:47:37,879 Speaker 1: wish all of you guys a happy new year and 889 00:47:37,920 --> 00:47:44,640 Speaker 1: we will be healthy. Bye.