Speaker 1: I am all in. That's just you. I am all
Speaker 1: in with Scott Patterson and I Hurt Radio podcast that
Speaker 1: afternoon every Scot Patterson, welcome to the show. We've got
Speaker 1: a rollicking affair looking we're looking forward to God. I
Speaker 1: didn't think this is actually happening. What is wrong with you, sir?
Speaker 1: I thought that was great, it was good. I thought
Speaker 1: maybe you were going to be the new Dodgers announcer
Speaker 1: respective and Scully respective and oh yeah, I pn Scully
Speaker 1: speaking up. Since we're live today, can we just take
Speaker 1: a second. I like cried when I heard about Olivia Amy.
Speaker 1: I was going to text you what happened to Oliba?
Speaker 1: And John? Oh Jesus, snow way, isn't that? It's such sad?
Speaker 1: Was she was? She sick? I didn't, Well, she's had
Speaker 1: breast cancer off and that's that's yeah, that's two icon,
Speaker 1: two icons gone like that. It's so sad. And normally
Speaker 1: for people that are listening, we normally tape the show
Speaker 1: like a day in advance, but today we're literally taping
Speaker 1: it and you're hearing it, so it's all in real time.
Speaker 1: Oh my goodness, studded me. I had tears when we
Speaker 1: logged in. Yeah, so boy, condolences to the Scullies and
Speaker 1: the Olivia Newton John family that she's a daughter. I
Speaker 1: think we shot. I think we shot some beach stuff
Speaker 1: at her old house. Actually, I think that we were
Speaker 1: in Olivia Newton John's old house or house. Yes, when
Speaker 1: we went to the beach, remember, and it was it
Speaker 1: was meeting Logan and we had lobster. And I think
Speaker 1: that will not what you're talking about, but Tara and
Speaker 1: I do it. Maybe I may be off on this,
Speaker 1: but I kept hearing Olivia John's house. That makes sense.
Speaker 1: We have a good I was hoping there was like
Speaker 1: a grease reference or something in this episode, because there
Speaker 1: are so many grease references. I wouldn't have been so
Speaker 1: upbeaten wifty in how would you know? I mean, it
Speaker 1: just happened. I'm so sorry about that. Well, anyway that
Speaker 1: I know, I like love herself. Well, she was just
Speaker 1: such a you know, just a sweet one. Oh boy,
Speaker 1: that's young this day and age, that's young. I know.
Speaker 1: It's anyway, condolences to everybody who's our huge, huge living
Speaker 1: John fans. I know, and it does seem fitting for
Speaker 1: us because I'm sure there's been Grease references multiple times.
Speaker 1: You Gilmore girl, Yeah, there has been. This episode is
Speaker 1: dedicated to both of them. How about that? Okay? Good?
Speaker 1: I like that good good. So this this episode is
Speaker 1: dedicated to the voice of the Dodgers for over fifty years.
Speaker 1: Now buying right fetal number nine Hatcher. I like to
Speaker 1: ask you a question about this episode, but I don't
Speaker 1: want you to take it the wrong way. I guess
Speaker 1: I'll just should I ask it now. I already know
Speaker 1: what you're gonna ask. Do you tell me? No, you
Speaker 1: tell me, you ask and all confirm or deny? Okay,
Speaker 1: two things. What is it called our what do we
Speaker 1: call it our nitpicking? Let me just tell you right
Speaker 1: off the top here we are going to the bone yard.
Speaker 1: I have a bone this week, but save that. But
Speaker 1: here's my questions. It's your bone hard hats on because
Speaker 1: we're gonna be there, there's gonna be falling bones. Did
Speaker 1: you have an injured foot or ankle? I thought you
Speaker 1: were limping in the scene, So this is what I'm saying.
Speaker 1: It's so weird in the scene where you and Lorla
Speaker 1: are walking in the town town, I don't you're talking
Speaker 1: about if Jess is cutting school or not in houses.
Speaker 1: That's my jersey strut. That's a strut. Did you wait
Speaker 1: a minute, you're talking about after the PO meeting. Yeah,
Speaker 1: that's the jersey strut in the leather checket. That's not
Speaker 1: bad bad leg? What's wrong with you? Don't you know?
Speaker 1: What a cake thing? First of all, I meet my angle.
Speaker 1: This is making my nose. I hate this angle makes
Speaker 1: my nose like weird. Though it was like limping. Did
Speaker 1: nobody else think that that's the jersey strut? That's how
Speaker 1: I used to walk? Yeah, I mean it was. I
Speaker 1: did think there's some wrong with my leg. Oh my god,
Speaker 1: that's funny. I will say Luke had a different vibe
Speaker 1: this episode that I thoroughly enjoyed it the whole episode,
Speaker 1: even in the diner. Well, no, when the diner, I
Speaker 1: had to have you did not have had at the
Speaker 1: podn't have the hat? He had it when when he
Speaker 1: went to the Walmart, right and he had it? Oh
Speaker 1: yeah you did? At the got to clean up the
Speaker 1: act for Nicole. She was at the PO things Boon
Speaker 1: Nicle boon where we're saving our bones to pick our bones.
Speaker 1: But I will say one more thing before we start.
Speaker 1: This was the first episode where it was really really
Speaker 1: hard for me to not keep going. I don't know why,
Speaker 1: but I had to force myself, like you have to.
Speaker 1: I wanted to go a whole another episode. I'm like, no,
Speaker 1: that's not how we're doing this. We're not supposed to
Speaker 1: do that. Oh this was I needed. I really wanted
Speaker 1: to roll right into the next one, really because of
Speaker 1: the Yale thing in the heart. I love the whole episode,
Speaker 1: and also the like we'll get to it, but like
Speaker 1: the sleepover, are you hidding me? Like that's just the
Speaker 1: cutest thing ever. She told you about the dream, which
Speaker 1: is such a great callback because it was like, dream
Speaker 1: was so significant, but she said, I'm not a dream
Speaker 1: slet of course it was okay, okay, So anyway, we'll
Speaker 1: start from the top. You start from the top. Who's
Speaker 1: gonna take us away? Who's gonna who's gonna who's synopsizing
Speaker 1: the synopsize? Alright, guys, this is season three, episode seventeen,
Speaker 1: A Tale of Pose and Fire. Air date April fifteen,
Speaker 1: two thousand three. Amy is bright red because here's what
Speaker 1: I want to say. It's like, you know, like we're
Speaker 1: having a busy day. Everyone's busy, and I hope people
Speaker 1: listening have the same experience. The minute we start, I'm like,
Speaker 1: oh my god, I freaking love this. Yeah, you have
Speaker 1: no idea. There are Canadians at this very moment trying
Speaker 1: to break into my apartment to shove swamps up my nose.
Speaker 1: I am not allowing them in. I've told them their
Speaker 1: window is closed. I podcasting, stop texting me. Literally, It's like,
Speaker 1: you didn't get the COVID test today. Sorry, you know.
Speaker 1: And I'm a team player and I don't want you know.
Speaker 1: I want to know and I want them to feel good.
Speaker 1: Two or I had three COVID tests last week, Daniel
Speaker 1: had to. Yeah, I had five every day, every single
Speaker 1: day you're on set. You know who wasn't COVID tested.
Speaker 1: The Post Society a good segue, right, guys. Everybody the
Speaker 1: Post Society is visiting Stars Hollow, but the fire at
Speaker 1: the end distrusts their stay, and the whole town pitches
Speaker 1: in to help the guess Lord Line Rory make a
Speaker 1: pro slash con list of Yale, Princeton, and Harvard, and
Speaker 1: Rory comes to decision on what school she chooses. Meanwhile, jessvit. Meanwhile,
Speaker 1: Jess Win's employee of the month at Walmart, but Luke
Speaker 1: questions his hours he's putting in at both jobs. Wait,
Speaker 1: right from the start, are you pro con pro list people? Yes? Oh, sure,
Speaker 1: you got to do that. That's basic. You have to
Speaker 1: do that. I go with my gut. That's why, that's
Speaker 1: how I make decisions. So fast do you do? Do
Speaker 1: you at least do a pro con list or whether
Speaker 1: you should do a pro con list the pros and
Speaker 1: concept doing the lesson? Then you said not to do it.
Speaker 1: I think Luke was anti the pro con pro list.
Speaker 1: Is it a pro con pro or just pro dude?
Speaker 1: Do you guys want to know? I can't even tell
Speaker 1: you why. I just called it a pro con pro list.
Speaker 1: It has to do with a secret thing in my sorority.
Speaker 1: And literally, I'm sure I'm not allowed to talk about it.
Speaker 1: All the Kappa Kappa Gammas are yelling through their headphones
Speaker 1: right now. That's so weird. And I'll just say this
Speaker 1: that in the sorority we called it a pro con
Speaker 1: pro list. That's what I called it. No one listening cares.
Speaker 1: I also save your emails that you don't care. I
Speaker 1: get it. You don't say about my own personal life. Okay,
Speaker 1: so you all are pro con? What type of pro
Speaker 1: con list is the last one you did? Scott? Did
Speaker 1: you want do one? To go to do this show
Speaker 1: over several days as a matter of fact, and consulting
Speaker 1: with multiple parties? And do you actually write it down? Yes?
Speaker 1: I actually write it down, Oh my gosh, and I
Speaker 1: refine it and I revised it. Oh yeah. And then
Speaker 1: do you literally like count up your number? You got
Speaker 1: a number it? I mean this this one is this
Speaker 1: said fifty plus on each side? Now we did Gilmore girls,
Speaker 1: did you do a pro con? And there was no cons?
Speaker 1: Hell no, there was no cons. I just like I
Speaker 1: was happy to have job, all pros. Yeah, not even
Speaker 1: a last It was like, yeah, what's the last pro
Speaker 1: calm list you guys did? Daniel Tara, I'm trying to think,
Speaker 1: I mean as dumb as vacations, like what's the pro
Speaker 1: class in this place versus this place? But you gotta
Speaker 1: do you know what I mean? You got funny sunny
Speaker 1: rain over here and you got life. You know you
Speaker 1: got a pro colin did you do did you already
Speaker 1: do it for Christmas? Did you do it? Did you decide? Guys?
Speaker 1: Did you decide where are you going on vacation, Danielle
Speaker 1: for Christmas? For Christmas? I don't know about Christmas yet.
Speaker 1: I thought you were like proct I was like, I
Speaker 1: think it's nice and naughty. What what's the last one
Speaker 1: you did it? For this job? I think I think
Speaker 1: it was this job because I left, I heard and
Speaker 1: then I came back. But I will say it was
Speaker 1: the easiest pro any number one pro number two I
Speaker 1: was you put Scott on there. You're like, I get
Speaker 1: to be on the Gilmore Girls podcast. Yeah, okay, well,
Speaker 1: I guess we'll kind of go out of order because
Speaker 1: it's impossible to talk about the pro con list without
Speaker 1: the big reveal that Rory's going to Yale. Did anyone
Speaker 1: else cry at the end of this because I was
Speaker 1: so big the fire not at all did this. I'm sorry,
Speaker 1: but this this episode just irritated me as much as
Speaker 1: it delighted me. Okay, okay, you staved in there, talk
Speaker 1: about it, tell us everything. I just I don't think
Speaker 1: it really got started until they were set up in
Speaker 1: Miss Patty's taking reservations, and then I agree with you,
Speaker 1: and then it's like, what was all this stuff that
Speaker 1: happened before it? Was completely unnecessary, and I didn't really
Speaker 1: get a laugh out of it until into they started
Speaker 1: Michelle doing it funny stuff this in Miss Patties. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I agree with you. I hadn't watch it twice because
Speaker 1: I forgot. I forgot what happened and I can't. I
Speaker 1: can't even tell you what happened in the first half.
Speaker 1: I knew there was a fire, so funny because so
Speaker 1: I loved the scene with the eye rolls like Lindsay
Speaker 1: eye rolling. Yeah, that was before you guys, that was
Speaker 1: so signal. I mean the first the first episode was
Speaker 1: the pro con list. I mean the first scene, So
Speaker 1: you guys didn't really feel it hitted stride until I mean,
Speaker 1: I will admit that that scene with Michelle Amy. Do
Speaker 1: you think it's because we've seen it so many times
Speaker 1: and we were just like along for the ride. I
Speaker 1: felt that it was. I just thought it was off.
Speaker 1: I mean, for a Daniel Palladino episode. I was expecting
Speaker 1: fireworks right out of the gate and I wasn't getting them,
Speaker 1: and I just thought the pace of it was off. Listen,
Speaker 1: that show has to be. It's it's like a fine
Speaker 1: tuned engine. There are so many elements involved in making
Speaker 1: that show great that if one or two are off,
Speaker 1: it just doesn't work for me. And I get what.
Speaker 1: I just didn't think it was. I wasn't with it
Speaker 1: for the first I guess half hour. God yause, I
Speaker 1: loved it the whole time through. I find this episode
Speaker 1: super enjoyed the Yannick laughs. Oh you know, the Yanni
Speaker 1: had a great episode, and so when he started making
Speaker 1: me laugh and I was like, okay, now I'm off
Speaker 1: to the races. You know what, I think You're right?
Speaker 1: Do you think it's it's one of his best because
Speaker 1: when he's on the phone to the Chessire and you
Speaker 1: think he's calling for the rooms and he says, do
Speaker 1: you have any openings? I mean I'll be what do
Speaker 1: you say? I'm an ex employee of the fire Oh
Speaker 1: so great? He was amazing. Yeah, I mean, Kirk didn't
Speaker 1: do it for me in this episode, and he always
Speaker 1: slays me, and I just thought, this is you know, okay,
Speaker 1: I agree that the shirt bit was dumb until the
Speaker 1: very and they were wearing it well that too, all
Speaker 1: the burned out the guests and then the shirt that
Speaker 1: says Rory is going to Yale. So I thought, oh god,
Speaker 1: you know what, what a way to let me make
Speaker 1: an observation. And this occurred to me before we're coming
Speaker 1: onto the podcast. Um, I had a realization that I
Speaker 1: really like spending time with Rory. I always enjoy it
Speaker 1: and I never get sick of it because she's not animated.
Speaker 1: She's chill. That is so true. And I like spending
Speaker 1: time with Unique because he's never animated unless he's really
Speaker 1: piste off. He's kind of chill and draw and I
Speaker 1: love the delivery, so for me it seems more real.
Speaker 1: May I say observation there and even correct. Yeah, And
Speaker 1: I don't like Luke when he's animated because I don't
Speaker 1: think that's where he lives, you know, and it's right so,
Speaker 1: but I just like the more chill character and the
Speaker 1: people that were grading on me in this episode with
Speaker 1: the animated characters, the people that are always animated. The
Speaker 1: sukis the Laurealize, the lanes every you know, the energy
Speaker 1: is through the roof, and I think I like the
Speaker 1: contrast that that provides, and I think it's necessary when
Speaker 1: it's a balanced episode, when the writing is superior, when
Speaker 1: everything's working, I think that can work. But when it's off,
Speaker 1: I really notice the chill versus the animation. It doesn't
Speaker 1: only part I disagrees. I don't think Laurel I is
Speaker 1: ever too animated, but you're right, Bad Bets animated. Oh no,
Speaker 1: she's animated a lot. I have to like think of
Speaker 1: that when I'm watching, because for me, she's so sarcastic
Speaker 1: and it's like such wit. But you're probably right. But
Speaker 1: you're right, Kirk's animated Bad Bette Miss Patty Lane to
Speaker 1: some extent. Oh, she's always a popping through the roof
Speaker 1: lane with the energy. It's always it's always this explosive,
Speaker 1: breathless kind of stuff. And I'm just like, can we
Speaker 1: just get back to Rory please? She's so cool, you know.
Speaker 1: So she's so cool, and everybody's just flipping out all
Speaker 1: the place. Well even even when you know, we know
Speaker 1: she's picking Yale Laura, I knows, and then you get
Speaker 1: that reveal at the end, even her smile is chill, Yeah,
Speaker 1: and it makes it that much just the fact that
Speaker 1: you got that smile. You're like, oh my god, she's
Speaker 1: totally going to eat. And I'm not saying that I
Speaker 1: think the show would have been better had everybody been chilled,
Speaker 1: because it wouldn't have you need you need the animated
Speaker 1: characters because that gives it its its energy. Is animated.
Speaker 1: Paris is nuts, right right? And what a what a
Speaker 1: horrible friend? She claims to be, Well, do you yet,
Speaker 1: I know you got in? You have that Harvard glow?
Speaker 1: And then she says, yes, I got in. She just
Speaker 1: looks at the TV. I mean, what kind of is
Speaker 1: such a good friend to be kind of a crap friend?
Speaker 1: Is Rory allowing to just sort of dump on her
Speaker 1: all the time? I don't I didn't get the scene.
Speaker 1: Why is she there? Why is she? And I think
Speaker 1: she knows that Paris doesn't have anyone, And I think
Speaker 1: Rory is that girl who's going to be by someone's side.
Speaker 1: At her core, she knows Paris is good. Yeah, she's
Speaker 1: just good. The outwardness of Paris is so Rory. Rory
Speaker 1: is so strong that she can take that, and it does.
Speaker 1: She doesn't take it personally, and she just wants to
Speaker 1: be there in service to Paris, to help her. That's
Speaker 1: what you're saying. That's seventeen years old. At your age,
Speaker 1: you you, I don't know, you're that's important to be
Speaker 1: there for your friends. I feel like, I'm not saying
Speaker 1: it's right, but I feel like Paris saying you got
Speaker 1: that Harvard glow was the compliment. Yeah, that she was
Speaker 1: like congratulations without saying congratulations because her ego so bruised.
Speaker 1: That's a good that's a good point. Yeah. I think
Speaker 1: my take on Paris and Rory is that Rory likes
Speaker 1: the real Paris, the authentic Paris, the Paris that comes
Speaker 1: to her to talk about Jamie and what happened, the
Speaker 1: Paris that was crying on her shoulder in that episode.
Speaker 1: And I think Rory just likes that person, that she
Speaker 1: tolerates that sort of annoying person, and she knows that
Speaker 1: this was all building up to Harvard. So like, you know,
Speaker 1: all of Paris's aggression, everything that happened throughout school was
Speaker 1: because she wants to get into Harvard, and Rory was
Speaker 1: her competition. I just think Paris is the kind of
Speaker 1: a psychopathic personality that when she takes power, Rory will
Speaker 1: be the first one executed, because you know, she reminds you,
Speaker 1: remind me of the side of myself that I cannot
Speaker 1: reveal to mykey. I don't think so, because I do.
Speaker 1: I think she's a monster. But but she's only like
Speaker 1: the other girls didn't even noticed that Paris wasn't in
Speaker 1: class for a week, and Rory is the only one
Speaker 1: that notice. And even at the end, you see she
Speaker 1: looks over at the notes that Rory brought back from
Speaker 1: school and she's like, oh, she actually cared that I'm
Speaker 1: missing my homework. So I think I think she has
Speaker 1: this like tough exterior and or like Scott said, she's
Speaker 1: got has a psychotic X. Yeah, yeah, I laughing. The
Speaker 1: one thing I did like was the voice mail, not
Speaker 1: the voice mail, but the recording of her interview. I
Speaker 1: was like, oh, geez, you didn't get it so unhinged.
Speaker 1: I was like, you said, please, that's nice. That was
Speaker 1: so crazy, but yet like not that crazy for parents. Okay, okay, okay,
Speaker 1: so let's go sort of through this. I did think
Speaker 1: that the very first scene when they're in the diner
Speaker 1: and Luke comes over and does the hug so long,
Speaker 1: I'm not gonna hug now. Didn't you think that Luke
Speaker 1: felt like when they revealed to him that she got
Speaker 1: into all three that he felt like I did it too,
Speaker 1: like we all didn't. And you see him he almost
Speaker 1: says it it's like Luke almost says something, you know
Speaker 1: what I'm talking about, But was there any kind of
Speaker 1: acknowledgement of that or the inclusion in that world. It
Speaker 1: doesn't seem to me that they let him in too far,
Speaker 1: and they let him in the door, but they didn't
Speaker 1: let him out of the foyer. So I would think
Speaker 1: you're right until the sleepover. If not, I would have
Speaker 1: actually felt like, oh wait, Luke deserves more credit for
Speaker 1: being a part of this, because I think you're right
Speaker 1: in that scene. But then when the sleepover happens, you
Speaker 1: realize like, oh my god, because they are that is
Speaker 1: the first place she would go. And Rory's like, just
Speaker 1: go to Luke's. He'll take care of you, and she's like, oh,
Speaker 1: you're right. So I do think that made up for
Speaker 1: the sort of beginning part. I don't know. I'm I'm
Speaker 1: very very confused by this Luke Laurelized situation and talk
Speaker 1: about it. Tell us where your heads at. I don't know.
Speaker 1: I just think she's sold all over the place and
Speaker 1: she's so and she and she sort of showed it
Speaker 1: in this episode how condescending she can be towards guests,
Speaker 1: towards everybody, and even towards him, and I just I
Speaker 1: don't know, even though they were supposed to be connecting
Speaker 1: and and making the bed and arguing and all this
Speaker 1: kind of stuff and and it all felt great. I
Speaker 1: don't know. I just I didn't feel the connection there.
Speaker 1: I didn't feel it feels like now, and maybe this
Speaker 1: is intentional from the brilliant writers, uh that that their
Speaker 1: universe a part they don't they don't feel. I don't
Speaker 1: feel like they're I felt that in the bed making
Speaker 1: that feels like, let's try to have them have this,
Speaker 1: you know, little spat. But once they're in bed and
Speaker 1: they're talking and she tell is the dream and you
Speaker 1: see the way they navigate that and Luke's face and
Speaker 1: the way she's telling it, I was like, oh my god,
Speaker 1: but where is this coming from. I mean, it's like
Speaker 1: it was just so felt so out of the blue
Speaker 1: for me. I see, I disagree because we I thought
Speaker 1: it was set up well okay, because we have the
Speaker 1: eye rolling from Nicole. Clearly Nicole does not like lower
Speaker 1: Lie and she said he has make panting and she
Speaker 1: does the full eye roll, so we're like, what's going on?
Speaker 1: She's threatened by lower Ly rightfully, you know, so obviously.
Speaker 1: Then we learn that Luke has mentioned Lora like mad
Speaker 1: nauseum on the date. Then we know that it's become
Speaker 1: like a thing, and it's like lower Lie is sort
Speaker 1: of telling him like, oh, yeah, you never talked about
Speaker 1: a friend that's a woman. But deep inside, she's like, yeah,
Speaker 1: so I thought it was set up perfectly. I'm just
Speaker 1: wondering if I let my foot off the gas too
Speaker 1: much for too long, or the or the writing was
Speaker 1: such that it appeared that I was letting my foot
Speaker 1: off the gas too much. Tell me more what you're
Speaker 1: saying there in terms of how I felt about Laurel
Speaker 1: and my desire for her, and how to express that
Speaker 1: when I was not in a scene with her or not,
Speaker 1: or maybe just talking about her. Maybe that's my fault.
Speaker 1: I don't know. No, you mean as an actor, Yes,
Speaker 1: I think I disagree. I want to hear what Daniel
Speaker 1: and Tara say, because I think you're playing it perfectly
Speaker 1: like she is your best friend. You take her in immediately,
Speaker 1: you give her the bed. There's this sort of cute
Speaker 1: thing between them. She tells you the dream, and the
Speaker 1: dream she literally tells you were married. You kissed me
Speaker 1: I'm pregnant, and you like going with it like it's
Speaker 1: a dream. But inside you see Luke like, oh my god,
Speaker 1: he's so I thought he was going to dumb Nicole
Speaker 1: that minute. But okay, maybe maybe. So why is she
Speaker 1: telling me this? I agree, that's okay, that's the point.
Speaker 1: It's not about me. Why is she Why is she
Speaker 1: telling me this? I thought it was really inappropriate. I
Speaker 1: did say, I agree with you because you are at
Speaker 1: the moment taken Like I don't know. I just I
Speaker 1: thought it was inappropriate your dating Nicole. You're with her,
Speaker 1: you're trying to make it work, and then here she
Speaker 1: comes telling you the story that you want to hear.
Speaker 1: You want to hear that she's dreaming of you, You
Speaker 1: want to hear that you have a dream family together.
Speaker 1: But she's doing it now, Like I don't know. I didn't.
Speaker 1: I thought it was really distasteful. In my she say
Speaker 1: they kiss? Or did I make that up? Because she
Speaker 1: said she was pregnant. She said she was pregnant, zips
Speaker 1: her she zips it before she reveals the kiss. Okay, gosh,
Speaker 1: this has given me a lot to break down. But
Speaker 1: wait a minute, Wait a minute, So So Laura La
Speaker 1: has not really made any eyes or overtures or any
Speaker 1: inklands of interest towards Luke in several episodes, and I'm
Speaker 1: correct me if I'm wrong. And then all of a sudden, he's,
Speaker 1: you know, he seems to be with the coal and
Speaker 1: he seems pretty upbeat, and he just came off a
Speaker 1: phone call whether where he's like kind of secret secret,
Speaker 1: and I want to I want to do you know,
Speaker 1: I was like putting my shovel out on whatever he's
Speaker 1: you know, whatever she said. You know, it was an
Speaker 1: intimate thing, obviously, and it made him blush a little.
Speaker 1: Okay um. And then Laura Lai hears that, and then
Speaker 1: she decides to talk about some dream that she's pregnant,
Speaker 1: and I mean, really it seems very minipulate, seems very manipulative,
Speaker 1: slipped out the dream. And then she's sort of if
Speaker 1: it's slipped out, you don't keep talking about it. Well,
Speaker 1: liked about she isn't that funny? Okay, I'm gonna say
Speaker 1: this and it's gonna cause quite a stir in an
Speaker 1: email storm. I don't think she's interested in Luke. I
Speaker 1: think she's interested in winning. I like I like that
Speaker 1: you're causing this debate before we debate that, Danielle, do
Speaker 1: you think it's inappropriate that she went to Luke's to stay?
Speaker 1: I don't think so, because they do have that relationship.
Speaker 1: They are friends, and when friends are going through something
Speaker 1: bad like that, you help no matter what. But you
Speaker 1: just think it's inappropriate that she told some dream it's
Speaker 1: a freaking dreaming. It's not a dream. It's a dream
Speaker 1: that she's pregnant, that Luke and her have a family together,
Speaker 1: that they are something more than friends. How did it
Speaker 1: come up? Who remembers? Why did she tell the dream story?
Speaker 1: Because she heard the phone call with Nicole and decided
Speaker 1: that she wanted to win that evening because she doesn't
Speaker 1: care about Luke. You know, Scott Cohen comes a bye,
Speaker 1: any all these other guys are coming by. She doesn't
Speaker 1: give Luke a second thought, right? That the whole Yeah,
Speaker 1: it's the whole conversation that that uh, Nicole is kind
Speaker 1: of hebe gep over Laura Lae, that she thinks that
Speaker 1: you know, that she's almost kind of a threat. And
Speaker 1: then that's when Laura Lae plops down even more of
Speaker 1: a double downer, and it's like here, you feel like
Speaker 1: we're all just blanking on the segue to the dream.
Speaker 1: I'm just telling you, I think it's Luke was telling
Speaker 1: her that Nicole, doesn't you know, she gets kind of
Speaker 1: weird when when Luke talks about Laura Lae and so
Speaker 1: she just goes over this dream once sege I'm gonna
Speaker 1: have to go back and watch it again. It was like,
Speaker 1: you know, it was definitely right after that conversation. At
Speaker 1: the least it was, yeah, it was, and then Laura
Speaker 1: Iz is hearing like, oh, you know, hey, maybe I
Speaker 1: can drive a wedge. I can win this, not necessarily
Speaker 1: the guy the situation. So is it really her? Is
Speaker 1: it really her feelings or is it just her ego?
Speaker 1: I mean, how is how is she talking this way
Speaker 1: to him in his apartment? I think sometimes when you
Speaker 1: you now know, like because Luke has been single, he's
Speaker 1: been there, and she never went for it. Now that
Speaker 1: he's taken, she's like, oh crap, like I should have gone.
Speaker 1: That's how I thought of it, like damn, and I
Speaker 1: lost my chance and now he's I think you can
Speaker 1: also be jealous of something even if you don't actually
Speaker 1: know what sure you want it, like you're just like jealous,
Speaker 1: like she that's her guy right. Oh wait here They
Speaker 1: said it was during the conversation because Luke brought up
Speaker 1: lower Lye on his and Nicole's first date and keep
Speaker 1: going Jackie our producers like scamming back. And she said,
Speaker 1: and luked it intil Nicole or Lie spending the night.
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, but but she but it was and he
Speaker 1: was right, it didn't come up and it's not appropriate, right,
Speaker 1: but she loyalized the one that pushed that she leaves
Speaker 1: you guys did come up because he intentionally would never
Speaker 1: say that because Nicole would have flipped her lip. He didn't.
Speaker 1: He didn't pre predict that going to drop on his porch.
Speaker 1: He was on the phone with Nicole. He could have said, yeah,
Speaker 1: there's a fire at the end. In fact, loyalize here
Speaker 1: right now, but that you don't like is here right down.
Speaker 1: He intentionally didn't say it because though he would have
Speaker 1: lost her noodle over it. No, it was no, it
Speaker 1: was him taking his private space in in his private
Speaker 1: relationship with another woman. It's none of luralized business. He
Speaker 1: didn't owe Laura I anything. He didn't owe any explanation anything.
Speaker 1: Why would he allow because big wait a minuta because
Speaker 1: somebody had a fire. His girlfriend. The fact that another
Speaker 1: woman is sleeping in the bed. She wasn't sleeping in
Speaker 1: the bed. She was sleeping. She was sleeping on the
Speaker 1: couch in the same room. He was functioning as a friend.
Speaker 1: It was a friend you're telling thing. But Jess was
Speaker 1: in the same exact room too, so it's three through.
Speaker 1: He was in the same room. Yeah, they're all snoring.
Speaker 1: Remember that scene where she's Danielle, you're gonna go over? Okay,
Speaker 1: let me let me make a scenario. I don't think.
Speaker 1: So Danielle happens to be somewhere and suddenly she's has
Speaker 1: to sleep over in the same room with Jared pada
Speaker 1: Lay Jared plucky you are. You're in Gilmore Girl's world,
Speaker 1: and you're like, oh my god, there's been a monsoon.
Speaker 1: I weirdly have to sleep with Jared Padli and then
Speaker 1: your husband calls. Okay, so your husband, John Reno calls
Speaker 1: and you're like, there was a small susan but everybody's fine.
Speaker 1: By no, I would be like, I'm stuck in this
Speaker 1: room with all these people, so heads up, yeah, you know, okay,
Speaker 1: I'm not I'm not I'm not saying Luke shouldn't have
Speaker 1: said that, but he should have said, hey, I'm lorialized
Speaker 1: spending the night here or whatever, like yeah, I'll give
Speaker 1: it to you. No, No, I'm not buying the argument.
Speaker 1: I'm not buying it. He she she wasn't significant enough
Speaker 1: in his life for a random fire, a random situation
Speaker 1: where she came randomly to his house. He was being
Speaker 1: a good guy. Why should he complicate his relationship with
Speaker 1: Nicole by dropping that freaking bomb on with you that
Speaker 1: he didn't have to tell her? But like he intentionally
Speaker 1: doesn't tell her because he knows that deep down he's
Speaker 1: got feelings for her, and uh, Nicole will lose her Sorry,
Speaker 1: can I say yes? Cool with Nicole? Shite? Nicole would
Speaker 1: have lost her poop. She would have hung up the
Speaker 1: phone on him and broken up with him right then
Speaker 1: and there, just like I feel like Luke should have been, like,
Speaker 1: the girl of my dreams isn't in the bed here? Well,
Speaker 1: you know, we just not dream But what about you know?
Speaker 1: Is it gonna? Is it? You know? Now? It sets
Speaker 1: up something to to rear its ugly head later on
Speaker 1: right now, and I cannot remember if it does. But
Speaker 1: it's sure going to be the bleep hitting the fans.
Speaker 1: I don't think, I don't think. I don't think he
Speaker 1: had any obligation to tell Nicole that laurel I was there.
Speaker 1: It was just not necessary and I don't know that
Speaker 1: she had any relevance in his mind at that point
Speaker 1: talking to his girlfriend, right, and this chance thing happened.
Speaker 1: So he's in he's in hot water. I mean, he's
Speaker 1: he's he is not to know Laura la is a
Speaker 1: sore subject with Nicole. That is why if it was
Speaker 1: Rory to say there was a fire, I agree, I
Speaker 1: agree with you would have said, yeah, there was a fire.
Speaker 1: Rory's here. I got it based on the conversation they
Speaker 1: just had before. He answered before you that Nicole is
Speaker 1: jealous because Nicole knows that that Luke has feelings for Lorelai,
Speaker 1: and it is pretty sure that Lorelei has feelings for Look,
Speaker 1: let's face it is just a dumb guy who can't
Speaker 1: pull the trigger and now he's in a bad spot. Okay,
Speaker 1: but wait, really, one more question for you all, especially
Speaker 1: you Scott, what significance this is their first ever sleepover
Speaker 1: that I know of, even though they're I don't think
Speaker 1: it's a sleepover when Jess is right there either like
Speaker 1: that just I don't know. That's a community coming together
Speaker 1: to help one another out. That's what I agree. But
Speaker 1: you guys are still on the on the side of
Speaker 1: the debate where it was okay that Lorelei told him
Speaker 1: her dream. Yeah, can a dream? I don't think. I don't.
Speaker 1: I don't think. I think that was odd, odd timing,
Speaker 1: and that is not that is not I think if
Speaker 1: they were sort of coming closer, if they were dating,
Speaker 1: that's something you tell a guy that you really want.
Speaker 1: That's that's like I'm we've been dating for a while,
Speaker 1: things are getting serious, and we're talking intimately, and then
Speaker 1: that is revealed with a couple of cocktails saying you
Speaker 1: tell the guy you have the crush on, you go,
Speaker 1: that's how you get That's how you get rid of
Speaker 1: the guy. Never had a crush on somebody, and you're like, yeah,
Speaker 1: but if he was saying my dream exactly hashtag single
Speaker 1: sure in a relationship slipped up and started to tell
Speaker 1: it and then was stuck so she had to tell it,
Speaker 1: which is why she didn't tell the part about the kiss. Remember,
Speaker 1: she didn't tell that probably messed that up in my brain.
Speaker 1: But I also feel like sometimes Laura just like talks
Speaker 1: and does know what's coming out, you know what I mean?
Speaker 1: Did I? But look who she's talking to. She's talking
Speaker 1: to like the town yokel who's who's not going to
Speaker 1: ever use it against her. He's just gonna take it
Speaker 1: in and he's gonna be sort of single minded about
Speaker 1: the whole thing, and just like you know and do
Speaker 1: us Luky, he's gotta get up early and he's gonna
Speaker 1: make that you know, he's not gonna he's not gonna
Speaker 1: over analyze it the way we are, right, It's it's
Speaker 1: just not in his in his capability. So it's very
Speaker 1: at hey, Bubbo, what's happening? Huh? My boys coming out?
Speaker 1: No wonder you're so happy your family is there. I
Speaker 1: just realized why stuff's been in like such a great mood.
Speaker 1: Oh my god, are you having so much fun with them? Yeah?
Speaker 1: Is it so much better when they're there? It's like,
Speaker 1: are you kidding? So? Like? Now, could you like this job? Yeah?
Speaker 1: That's so cute. Wait, that made me think of something. Also,
Speaker 1: I never Mrs Slutsky is she's so caustic? Why she's
Speaker 1: so mad. I don't know. Yeah, why is she so mad?
Speaker 1: Why is she so mad? I don't know? Anyway, let's uh,
Speaker 1: I think we've talked circles around that one, that little situation.
Speaker 1: But it's it's looking it's an important narrative in the
Speaker 1: in the piece overall, so it needs a discussion. But yeah, I, Danielle,
Speaker 1: I agree with you on this. Um just not appropriate,
Speaker 1: just not appropriate time. Yeah, I'm reading the script right
Speaker 1: now just to see what that exact moment right before
Speaker 1: she can you read that to us? So she talks
Speaker 1: about how did you get so fast? By the way,
Speaker 1: just you know, the internet is a great tool. Um,
Speaker 1: No that she talks about you don't you don't talk
Speaker 1: about another woman on a first date. And then Luke goes, no, uh,
Speaker 1: no other woman exists, not even my mother. And then
Speaker 1: Lai says, you can maybe mention his sister. Maybe they're
Speaker 1: talking about the alarm clocks and how he has to
Speaker 1: set his at a quarter to five, and then she
Speaker 1: goes out a dream once that you said eighteen alarm
Speaker 1: clocks to get me up now playing left field, laurelized
Speaker 1: baby dream with Luke right right, where did that? Where
Speaker 1: did that come from an honor of Vince Gully, right,
Speaker 1: it's like whoa. She literally was like, Oh that alarm
Speaker 1: clock that you're sitting tomorrow morning, let me tell you
Speaker 1: about mile arm clocking my dream. Wait, so okay, let's
Speaker 1: I have a segue, an abrupt segway. Did we find
Speaker 1: Pandora the cat? Significant? I did, because there's gotta be
Speaker 1: similars with that cat. Oh yeah, because it was in
Speaker 1: the kitchen and then it was the only one that
Speaker 1: really survived the fire and then came back at the
Speaker 1: end and was so like kind of whatever to Pandora
Speaker 1: in the kitchen, which was like weird that Suki was
Speaker 1: so like weird with the cat, and then she pixcept
Speaker 1: the cat. I feel like there's a lot of symbolism there,
Speaker 1: but I was not fully getting it. I was turned
Speaker 1: to you interesting. I was more jarred at the fact
Speaker 1: that a cat was in the kitchen, and I was like, oh,
Speaker 1: that thing came back. But right, but like, aren't pregnant people?
Speaker 1: Isn't there some issue with cats and pregnant people? Or
Speaker 1: is that the kitty litter kt litter? Okay, yeah, that's
Speaker 1: actually that is actually a real thing, right, Yeah, So
Speaker 1: I don't know that they can actually have that cat
Speaker 1: right now? What's what is the deal? You're not supposed
Speaker 1: to have cats if you're pregnant. The kitty litter has
Speaker 1: like some toxins in it that you can't get around.
Speaker 1: What happens if you have a cat, like you can't
Speaker 1: you can't change the litter, so someone else has to
Speaker 1: do that. Yeah, that makes that scares me. But okay,
Speaker 1: random mandion of the day. Okay, so okay, what did
Speaker 1: we all think of Jess and Walmart? And clearly he's
Speaker 1: not going to school? But what talk about it? I'm
Speaker 1: shocked it took this long for someone to realize because like,
Speaker 1: don't has no one seen him at school? And like
Speaker 1: said anything like n has been going on? Lena is
Speaker 1: really not doing her Job's not clearly neither is the
Speaker 1: Tool administration. Yeah, like wouldn't wouldn't Luke at a phone
Speaker 1: call if Jess is just not at school? Yeah, even
Speaker 1: after like I think two days? Like I think one
Speaker 1: day is fine, but after two days, wouldn't they call you?
Speaker 1: I don't know, I just that whole target's getting employer Walmart?
Speaker 1: And then Laurela faith her fake delight at it, like
Speaker 1: I did find it really interesting that they described him
Speaker 1: as Mr. Reliable and their go to guys. We're talking
Speaker 1: about Jess, Like what, but he's obviously very high I Q. Yeah,
Speaker 1: he's just too rebellious for his own good. He's too
Speaker 1: damaged for his own good. He could be, you know,
Speaker 1: working at NASA for God's sake, he just is. It's
Speaker 1: a way, it's a tragic situation where this kid is
Speaker 1: going to waste his potential on his you know, because
Speaker 1: of his upbringing, and there's nothing anybody can do for him.
Speaker 1: And it's really sad. It's really really sad. He said
Speaker 1: it himself. He knows how smart he is. It's like,
Speaker 1: I can absorb this. I can absorb this stuff in
Speaker 1: ten minutes. It takes these kids. Even Dean's going to college,
Speaker 1: Jess can literally be at any school he wants. I
Speaker 1: just don't think I've ever seen Luke. I don't know.
Speaker 1: I guess, on on the one hand, so so likable
Speaker 1: and so proud of Jess and pat himself on the back,
Speaker 1: and at the same time, compared to what he's doing
Speaker 1: so pathetic. That's like, I mean, I know, you're like
Speaker 1: the glow with Harvard Nuts That's really big, isn't it.
Speaker 1: That's huge Jaz and Harvard Princeton. You know that's really
Speaker 1: quite an accomplishment. Well, you know, why is he throwing
Speaker 1: in this like lame accomplished? It's like, what how is
Speaker 1: he even saying this to her knowing that she's a Gilmore,
Speaker 1: knowing that she's not going to, you know, be throwing
Speaker 1: any parties for Jeff. He knows she hates Jeff, her daughter,
Speaker 1: she got into Harvard person. And this guy is trying
Speaker 1: to brag on Jess about how he got employee at
Speaker 1: the month of Walmart. You know I shouldn't say this.
Speaker 1: I can't help myself. It makes me think about a
Speaker 1: year in the life because Jess turns out so good,
Speaker 1: arguably better than our Well you can't, no, no, you
Speaker 1: can't ruin anything. Sorry. Oh wait, I'm there's Easter eggs
Speaker 1: being dropped and I'm not picking them up. What happened?
Speaker 1: Don't worry abou or the people caught it, caught it.
Speaker 1: People caught it, caught it. The people that didn't didn't.
Speaker 1: Is this my time to say that I read a
Speaker 1: comment that yes, yes, yes, ruined a lot for me
Speaker 1: on the Instagram, So when we were all logging in today,
Speaker 1: Danielle said, Oh, I saw something on the Instagram, so
Speaker 1: tell us what it was. I'm gonna say spoiler alert
Speaker 1: for the first time one person that hasn't seen this
Speaker 1: show any time. I didn't know that that would be okay, well, Scott,
Speaker 1: plug your ears. Um, I didn't know that Dean was
Speaker 1: her first for you? Yes, yeah, put it back on pour.
Speaker 1: Scott's like, doesn't. We had to mime to him. So
Speaker 1: it's not that bad of a spoiler. What's worse is
Speaker 1: you know it hasn't happened yet and the way it happened. Yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: we'll get there. But well, now I'm just like palms
Speaker 1: are wedding thinking about it, like, oh, something bad really happened.
Speaker 1: That's the time when I've seen Lorelai be so disappointed
Speaker 1: in Rory. It is like gutting me right now thinking
Speaker 1: about it. Okay, well, don't tell me anymore. Is it
Speaker 1: coming up soon though? Like? Can I at least like
Speaker 1: get that? But also not too long? Yeah, big timeline,
Speaker 1: it's not that long, but there's so many things ahead.
Speaker 1: It's it's not the end of the show. Okay, Wait,
Speaker 1: should we talk about for a second, the Poet Society
Speaker 1: because the whole Poe thing. First of all, I'm not
Speaker 1: familiar with Poe, but I did laugh hard when they
Speaker 1: said we're not Trekkers, and so part I'm sorry, you're
Speaker 1: right Trekkys because the actual, the proper name is Trekker,
Speaker 1: so being one. Yeah, and by the way, another tragic loss,
Speaker 1: Michelle Nichols Huru has passed away. So now we only
Speaker 1: have to left. We have Captain Kirk and we have Sulu.
Speaker 1: All So, I just saw Shatner at at Durham, at Raleigh.
Speaker 1: He was a person. Is he not epic? You know
Speaker 1: he's in his nineties. Yeah, I know, I know. We
Speaker 1: sit there and we sit there and listen to him
Speaker 1: spin yards. Do people just like kind of google gaga
Speaker 1: over him because he's hurt what he's currently? I bet
Speaker 1: they give him a wide berth. You know, he's he's
Speaker 1: a little you know, he's a little he's a little standoffish.
Speaker 1: You need to give hugs, hugging everything. Nobody's trying to
Speaker 1: hug him, they're just you know, where did you see
Speaker 1: him at one of your conventions? In the green room? Yeah,
Speaker 1: because you know, you take you take breaks. Oh my God,
Speaker 1: that's even better. I like talking about we we we
Speaker 1: shared a sandwhich is captain give me a line the
Speaker 1: line I was just gonna stand in line. No, he's
Speaker 1: in the green room. We're eating food with him. He's
Speaker 1: telling stories. We're telling stories. We were interested. We were
Speaker 1: interested in his stories. He wasn't interested in ours. He
Speaker 1: gives you a funny look, he looks like like, well,
Speaker 1: he's like, I just went to space, dude. Yeah, good,
Speaker 1: what can you tell me? What could you your Gilmore
Speaker 1: Girls stories? That's me just being funny. Okay, So back
Speaker 1: on the Poe. Okay, so Poe. Is anyone familiar with
Speaker 1: Poe or is there any Yeah? I mean sure, we
Speaker 1: all read it up. I honestly, I just it just
Speaker 1: that fell flat for me. That whole post thing. I
Speaker 1: didn't think too funny, yard and campy or over the
Speaker 1: top or whatever. Listen, Poe is a well known author,
Speaker 1: and everybody read The Raven in school and analyzed it
Speaker 1: and a book report on it and all that kind
Speaker 1: of stuff. But he's not so well known where you
Speaker 1: can riff off and do like really cool jokes and
Speaker 1: everybody's going to get it. And plus they didn't even
Speaker 1: do it. They you know, they missed an opportunity for
Speaker 1: the two pos to go at it and miss patties.
Speaker 1: But these guys didn't have any time clock. I think
Speaker 1: I would have actually rather be a bunch of trekkers
Speaker 1: trek ease, because that would have been funny for me
Speaker 1: to watch. But yeah, or making a little more pop
Speaker 1: culture instead of so high falutint poe right. I did
Speaker 1: like how Laura Lae and Rory was just like, oh
Speaker 1: my god, we have to sit through this whole thing
Speaker 1: again because they had to compare right and that and
Speaker 1: that means and that means we had to sit through
Speaker 1: the whole thing again. And I was like, oh time
Speaker 1: two flawlessly acted I rolls, Lindsay's I roll and the
Speaker 1: cold subtle I roll because it was very subtle, but
Speaker 1: you could tell like oh wow, and then that Rory's like, oh,
Speaker 1: you're getting a little no, I'm sorry, Laura Lae says
Speaker 1: to Rory, oh looks like you're getting a little uh
Speaker 1: lindsay eyroll coming from Nicole Basically stars hollow people just
Speaker 1: not acting right, man. It's like, what's happening? And here's
Speaker 1: a pen I need it back. It's like boring pose
Speaker 1: and eye rolls. What's going on? No? I loved I
Speaker 1: actually love the post scene because of what was happening
Speaker 1: in the audience. Like, for me, that was the best part,
Speaker 1: Like all the eye rolling and we're realizing, oh they're
Speaker 1: together and they're together, and Luke's not wearing a hat
Speaker 1: and miss Patty was so stoic and let me sum
Speaker 1: it up for you here. Okay. The best lines that
Speaker 1: came out of that post stuff was Michelle when he
Speaker 1: referred to the DNA and children into the you know,
Speaker 1: the great lineing and and he could have riffed and
Speaker 1: tar you right if it was Star Treker was something
Speaker 1: a little more low brow, then Laura La and Michelle
Speaker 1: could have gone off on them, I mean really gone
Speaker 1: off on them and had a lot more fun with
Speaker 1: this happen. Michelle had some good lines. He said, stop
Speaker 1: trying to cute things up? Did I say that part already?
Speaker 1: Stop trying to cute things up? I mean every line
Speaker 1: from Michelle was genius. Everything everything, everything was home run.
Speaker 1: It's probably his best for me. This was one of
Speaker 1: the I laughed out loud every time he opened his mouth.
Speaker 1: Very single game. I actually laughed out last yea, what
Speaker 1: did you think of the sort of confrontation between Dean Lindsay,
Speaker 1: Rory Lorelai and the Mark Twain story. I was just cringe.
Speaker 1: I thought it was just like they're bound to run
Speaker 1: into each other. It's you know, I didn't think too
Speaker 1: much of it, but it was nice to see that,
Speaker 1: Like Dean was excited to tell Rory that, like he
Speaker 1: got into college, and you can tell he really wanted
Speaker 1: to tell her. You know, I gotta give it to Dean,
Speaker 1: like he he is totally coming back around, and now
Speaker 1: I love him again and he's a little sweet little
Speaker 1: boy again doing good. You know, he's back to being Dean. Yeah,
Speaker 1: and I don't know that the who's the girl that
Speaker 1: he's dating? What's her name? Lindsey? Yeah, it's like give her,
Speaker 1: give her some spice, you know, give her something, give her,
Speaker 1: give her something. She just didn't say anything. She dirty
Speaker 1: looks and she's like, I gotta go. And the big
Speaker 1: story that said she was so nice and then they
Speaker 1: walked away. I was like, so, so she was nice, right,
Speaker 1: but I mean there was like nothing there there was
Speaker 1: she wasn't giving anything. It was like parallel to Nicole
Speaker 1: and Scott and the Loralae incident that we talked about
Speaker 1: for at Nauseum is these people are threatened. Lindsay is
Speaker 1: threatened by Rory. Of course god, oh no, Scott's taking
Speaker 1: his glasses off his got something. I got one hard
Speaker 1: for you about this episode? Uh forced m h. I
Speaker 1: mean I disagree on I disagree to disagree with the
Speaker 1: disagree with me. I disagree with Scott for of it
Speaker 1: minutes one through thirty two, great, yeah, disagree forced then
Speaker 1: thirty two through forty whatever for me parts I understand
Speaker 1: you're not crazy, You're not. I think the Pope element,
Speaker 1: that's what it is. Yeah, I could have done without.
Speaker 1: I could have done with that without Paul. I think
Speaker 1: that was probably it. I appreciate the attempt. You know,
Speaker 1: I didn't. I didn't. I didn't like it. I didn't
Speaker 1: like it, but I liked What did it add to
Speaker 1: the episode? How is it relevant to the episode? Well?
Speaker 1: I do like the element that the end was full.
Speaker 1: I mean, I I the fire. To me, I wouldn't
Speaker 1: have done away with even though I'm not saying I'm
Speaker 1: promoting fire, but I'm saying that. Really I liked all
Speaker 1: the the people of the and having to be put up,
Speaker 1: and you see that everybody's taking people in and Luke
Speaker 1: is opening you know, like the diner, like just like
Speaker 1: and then first you and Suki are going at it,
Speaker 1: and then at the end you're like, let me put
Speaker 1: some you know whatever. So I sort of like it
Speaker 1: as the device. So obviously they needed some reason to
Speaker 1: get all these people into the inn. But like I said,
Speaker 1: I would have been fine with a Brady Bunch convention.
Speaker 1: You know, I will funch of Marsha's and Jam's walking around.
Speaker 1: So you haven't enjoyed that for the last scene, I
Speaker 1: think the reason why it got me so much, And Amy,
Speaker 1: I know you, Amy knows like Amy and I are
Speaker 1: on the same page with this. But Laurel I obviously
Speaker 1: put all that stuff up on her walls. But then
Speaker 1: you realize that she's going to have to pay not
Speaker 1: only for Yale, but she's gonna have to figure out
Speaker 1: how to make her business like come back, and she's
Speaker 1: gonna have to pay for you know, she's not well,
Speaker 1: she doesn't totally know that they're going to pay for
Speaker 1: She doesn't want to be bound, but she doesn't want
Speaker 1: to be bound to her parents. But so but also
Speaker 1: like I think loyalized goal in the end is to
Speaker 1: support her kid, and she also wants to have this business.
Speaker 1: So like I thought the way they did it, where
Speaker 1: it went from like the end to the bedroom with
Speaker 1: the Yale posters, was so like Rory's about to have
Speaker 1: the best time of her life and Lorelie doesn't know
Speaker 1: what's next for her future of her business at the
Speaker 1: same whole thing apart. I now go back and watch it,
Speaker 1: and then you'll you'll, yeah, right, there's great symbolism there
Speaker 1: with the in burning down and it's they thought they
Speaker 1: were going to make dinner that night but they did
Speaker 1: not realize the damage. Then we have that, you know,
Speaker 1: mirror to Yale and and Rory really realizing I'm going
Speaker 1: to Yale and the significance of that. The only part
Speaker 1: I'm not getting is Papaya the cat. There's more to
Speaker 1: the cat. The cat, I don't know. I can't tell
Speaker 1: you that. I couldn't tell you the symbolism up, but yeah,
Speaker 1: I think there's just it just really set up like
Speaker 1: the next I mean, the next half of the show basically,
Speaker 1: that's right, right, Yeah, that was cute at the end
Speaker 1: because there's so many things we can be thinking about so,
Speaker 1: like Danielle, aren't you thinking about so? Because Danielle hasn't
Speaker 1: seen it, let's ask her, like, what do you think
Speaker 1: about the fact that she picked Yale. I'm happy for her.
Speaker 1: I think that's cool. She Uh. The only thing that
Speaker 1: I'm going to say now is I'm hoping she's not
Speaker 1: doing it because it's closest to home. That's the one
Speaker 1: thing that I'm like, I hope she's not doing it
Speaker 1: for that reason and she feels like she needs to
Speaker 1: be here for her mom and for jess Um. I'm
Speaker 1: hoping she's doing it because she actually wants to be there,
Speaker 1: which based off of when she visited Yale, I did
Speaker 1: get that impression. You haven't mentioned Richard and Emily and
Speaker 1: Richard of her is doing it because of Richard. I
Speaker 1: think that's at the end. I think like, first comes
Speaker 1: being close to mom, second comes being close to jess
Speaker 1: Third because Grandpa went there and that's cool, you know, Like,
Speaker 1: but I mean, maybe I'm wrong, but I'm just hoping
Speaker 1: she's doing it because she truly in her heart that's
Speaker 1: where she wants to go, and not because of those
Speaker 1: other factors. Do you want to know what would have
Speaker 1: made this a great episode if you if you get
Speaker 1: rid of all the post stuff and you put Richard
Speaker 1: and Emily in it, into the process of the pro
Speaker 1: con list. And oh, by the way, mom, dad, she
Speaker 1: got accepted to Princeton and Yale. So that would have
Speaker 1: been complications city man on steroids because of all the
Speaker 1: back and forth. What's she gonna do? So right exactly,
Speaker 1: So that would have been one hell of a Friday
Speaker 1: night dinner all right with everybody? Yeah, man, and I
Speaker 1: just like, where was it? And we've got to deal
Speaker 1: with this post stuff? Does this? And we spoiler a lord,
Speaker 1: but does this occur? Does this? I mean this is
Speaker 1: coming right, They're gonna they're gonna drag it out through
Speaker 1: several episodes and maybe I don't know, there's definitely the
Speaker 1: reveal to Richard that she's going to Yale. But what
Speaker 1: what a hell of an episode this could have been
Speaker 1: with such a monumental decision, and we've been waiting for
Speaker 1: this decision for you know, the better part of three seasons,
Speaker 1: and there's no Richard and Emily participation in this monumental episode.
Speaker 1: It was a huge missed opportunity. You're actually totally right,
Speaker 1: because the payoff of her choosing Yale is very subdued. Yeah,
Speaker 1: which I love, But she didn't. She hasn't officially accepted though,
Speaker 1: Like she hasn't like signed the paperwork that she's going
Speaker 1: to Yale. It's just like on their prose cons list,
Speaker 1: like she's going to Yale. But this is a drama, right,
Speaker 1: is a comedy and drama. So the drama that could
Speaker 1: have been played out with this decision with Emily and
Speaker 1: Drichard involved could have spawned the best comedy that the
Speaker 1: show is, the type of comedy this show is known for.
Speaker 1: I see it. I was surprised that no one went.
Speaker 1: They didn't go to Richard and Emily is to stay
Speaker 1: like she went to Lanes instead. I thought she would
Speaker 1: just go stay with Richard. And that's so far. It's
Speaker 1: like an hour away? Cool? Is it an hour? How
Speaker 1: far is it? Thirty minutes? Maybe thirty minutes? And she's like,
Speaker 1: you know, Richard's paying for this. Children, they're paying for it,
Speaker 1: and they didn't get to participate in the episode, so
Speaker 1: I thought, I don't know. I felt as a fan,
Speaker 1: I felt cheated. I think that's you'll be pleased that's coming. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I better think there's more to it. I do have
Speaker 1: a bone to pick with a question mark because we
Speaker 1: sort of I forgot to say this earlier. So Paris
Speaker 1: talks about I'm going back to that scene with Paris.
Speaker 1: Paris talks about how she told her mom that she
Speaker 1: slept with Jamie, right, and then she talks about how
Speaker 1: her mom cringe e gross gross gross, says how the
Speaker 1: she say, yeah, her father hasn't pleased like fifteen years.
Speaker 1: But here's my question, aren't they divorced? I thought Paris's
Speaker 1: parents were getting divorced? Right? Oh yeah, I forgot about that,
Speaker 1: So I don't know if that's a bone to pick
Speaker 1: or like if it was sort of like because it's not,
Speaker 1: we don't know that they officially got divorced or maybe
Speaker 1: she said maybe ever in their relationshippearance are like gone somewhere,
Speaker 1: So it's like debate what's going on? Yeah, that's interesting.
Speaker 1: I have a bone to pick. Why does everyone have
Speaker 1: a twin bed that was mine? Why are the beds
Speaker 1: so dark? Small? Luke is not sleeping in a twin
Speaker 1: that That's why I was like, what is that bed?
Speaker 1: All of them? Every bed you have? The couple in
Speaker 1: r I have the answer. You know what the answer is,
Speaker 1: shooting no no, no, no no no. Stars Hollow is
Speaker 1: supposed to be an historic town, right, So the houses
Speaker 1: are much smaller, the rooms are much smaller, the ceilings
Speaker 1: are much lower. That's how historic homes were built. They
Speaker 1: were you know, this whole supersizing house. This is a
Speaker 1: new thing. So single beds fit. But the couple in
Speaker 1: the twin bed, yeah a couple. Where who the couple
Speaker 1: that stayed in the one bedroom right that she's hoping
Speaker 1: don't like fool around? Yeah, well that they didn't design
Speaker 1: the room for a couple to fool around. And can
Speaker 1: somebody tell me play that little kid? Because that guy
Speaker 1: looked familiar? Who played that little guy? He definitely has
Speaker 1: continued to like, Well try to let's try to find
Speaker 1: that out while I talk about some fashion that Dennis
Speaker 1: Quaid I don't know, No love Dennis Quaid. Donnis Quaid
Speaker 1: is your um great lore line looking good the whole episode.
Speaker 1: I loved her in the post theater scene or whatever
Speaker 1: with the black leather jacket, which I also thought is
Speaker 1: very interesting that lukewar is almost the same leather jacket.
Speaker 1: She's got the v neck black sweater I loved her hair.
Speaker 1: I just thought, whoa, well, that's just as that's just
Speaker 1: a Northeast thing, you know. The black leather jacket, that's
Speaker 1: that's smart of the uniform. Good. She's probably my standout
Speaker 1: fashion moment just throughout. She just looks great. Mm hmm,
Speaker 1: no question. Yeah, Oh, Ryan Malgarini. While you guys talk,
Speaker 1: I'm gonna look up what other things. Brian melgar playing
Speaker 1: Freaky Friday. Yeah, I knew it. Yes, the one with
Speaker 1: Lindsy Lohan. He's the brother. I knew it. Oh my god, job,
Speaker 1: he's her little brother. He's durable in it. Uh oh,
Speaker 1: he is a kid down. Let's track that kid. That guy,
Speaker 1: Oh my god, he's so much older now. Time moves
Speaker 1: on moves on. Whoa, he's like an adult now, damn him?
Speaker 1: Can you can you? We gotta get that eye on's
Speaker 1: he's still working well. His last credit was yeah right,
Speaker 1: but that was like a minute ago. He did an
Speaker 1: episode of Mike and Molly. His bio on his Instagram
Speaker 1: is I used to act as a kid. Now I
Speaker 1: just act like one. We gotta get the line of
Speaker 1: the day. You gotta get him cute. Got any bones
Speaker 1: to pick other than the whole thing, nom de boned.
Speaker 1: How are you feeling in general about Luke right now?
Speaker 1: Just how are you feeling about him? Um? I like
Speaker 1: to know how I Uh, I like where he is? Yeah,
Speaker 1: I like where he is. I think that he Uh.
Speaker 1: Do you like Nicole? I think? I don't think Nicole matters.
Speaker 1: I think I think, but I think he she's he
Speaker 1: has gained psychological advantage at this point. And the little
Speaker 1: chess match between these two, right, well, it's interesting. After
Speaker 1: we talked to the real life Nicole how she said,
Speaker 1: you're playing her too likable because she's not one bit
Speaker 1: likable in this episode at all. Right, yuh yeah, okay,
Speaker 1: well bye bye. That's how that's it. Bye bye. Okay.
Speaker 1: I'll leave you on one really good best line. It's
Speaker 1: from Lord Lee to Rory, and she goes, if it's
Speaker 1: right for you, it's really right for me. Like that's
Speaker 1: a let's do best lines, let's do best lines. It's
Speaker 1: all gonna be Michelle. That's how I feel. Yes, I
Speaker 1: totally agree. Just Michelle hiring right exactly. I like when
Speaker 1: when Laurla and we'll talk about this in pop culture,
Speaker 1: but when she lists all the different ends, like the
Speaker 1: sugar Bear, and he's like every place that sounds like
Speaker 1: Glenda the Good Witch everything. This was his best so
Speaker 1: far this episode. He saved it for me when Paris
Speaker 1: said she did she didn't deserve general Hospital. Yeah. I
Speaker 1: don't like strangers using my toilet. Oh my god, Michelle
Speaker 1: is me? Do you? Guys don't remember, he says, because
Speaker 1: they said, can someone say your house? Because I don't
Speaker 1: like strangers using my toilet? Absolutely agree either. But I
Speaker 1: think I wish I had a half bath, like I
Speaker 1: have two bedrooms two bathrooms in my house, which I
Speaker 1: had two and a half bath because then that half
Speaker 1: is just always relegated to strangers. I have that, I
Speaker 1: have that here, the half. Yeah, you have two and
Speaker 1: a half. Two and a half. You're living the dream.
Speaker 1: People don't people two and a half bathrooms? They're living
Speaker 1: the dream. Those people with five bathrooms though, rich people,
Speaker 1: what I can't even imagine? Can you? Does anyone have
Speaker 1: five bathrooms? Five bathrooms at home? My old house My
Speaker 1: old house had six so rich, Oh my god. And
Speaker 1: then and then one in the garage as well. What
Speaker 1: girl's money can get you seven bathrooms? You want the best?
Speaker 1: I can use a different toilet every day of the
Speaker 1: week can be that green thing right there? Do you
Speaker 1: see it? Can you see it's portable? That's my bathroom
Speaker 1: in my garage. That's literally it's a camping toilet. Pret
Speaker 1: weared my And there's my alarm clock. Hello Kitty. That
Speaker 1: should be on the Instagram. What it's like to not
Speaker 1: be Scott Patterson. But it's like to be on I
Speaker 1: didn't build the house, I just bought it. Bravo to Michelle.
Speaker 1: This was yet he stole this, Yeah that was he
Speaker 1: stole it huge and yeah, oh yes, look at next
Speaker 1: week Happy Birthday Baby, Episode eighteen, season three. What is
Speaker 1: that all about, Laurels b Day. I think it's the
Speaker 1: world's largest pizza is coming or something. I think there's
Speaker 1: some pizza. Next time we have pizza. Have everybody, okay,
Speaker 1: I have a game again. Of course, Scott, it's gonna
Speaker 1: be hard in Nova Scotia. But everybody get your favorite
Speaker 1: Next week listen, they have they have pizza here. You
Speaker 1: wouldn't believe. Knock your socks off. Okay, perfect, I hope
Speaker 1: you have door toash. I'm hungry. No, I just go.
Speaker 1: I just go downstairs and I pick it up. It's
Speaker 1: not a amazing Okay, so everybody remind everybody pizza is
Speaker 1: going to be I think it's the I definitely think
Speaker 1: there's a big pizza thing in this. Let's confirm and
Speaker 1: then we'll order pizza. I'm pretty smart, but you check.
Speaker 1: I don't remember it was Why at this rate we
Speaker 1: could ended up being peanut butter sandwiches. Anybody right, beer
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