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Speaker 2: Previously, I went to Australia, where I learned that in
Speaker 2: nineteen ninety six their government enacted sweeping gun control laws.
Speaker 2: The results reduced gun violence and zero mass shootings. So
Speaker 2: are there any lessons for America here? Virginia gun advocate
Speaker 2: Philip Van Cleeve has a clear answer.
Speaker 3: We're not Australia. It's a very different culture, different people,
Speaker 3: different everything.
Speaker 2: Right, There's no similarity with Australia. Australia is a former
Speaker 2: British colony with a wild frontier that was tamed by
Speaker 2: brave men who also wiped out almost an entire indigenous population.
Speaker 2: And we are not similar to that, right right, right,
Speaker 2: Because unlike Australia, we Americans know when the guns are
Speaker 2: taken away, tyranny inevitably follows.
Speaker 3: The founding fathers knew that governments tend to grow beyond
Speaker 3: their means. In America, we're stepping in the direction of
Speaker 3: a police stape.
Speaker 2: Is that really happening, Philip? Or is that some kind
Speaker 2: of crazy paranoia?
Speaker 3: We have police. They're now wearing ninja suits. If you will,
Speaker 3: I mean, you don't even know they're police. Necessarily they
Speaker 3: get the black masks on and everything, So it really.
Speaker 2: Isn't crazy paranoia. You're justifiably frightened about ninja police. The
Speaker 2: ninja police, yes, yeah, ninja police, yes.
Speaker 4: Yeah.
Speaker 2: Sadly, without access to semi automatic firearms, Australians wouldn't know
Speaker 2: a thing about real freedom.
Speaker 5: Bloody oaths were free. We just sit here doing whatever
Speaker 5: we want. Everybody's just hanging out and having a good time.
Speaker 6: People don't have the same concerns anymore about getting gunned
Speaker 6: down when they're at a tourist resort.
Speaker 5: Yeah. But was that worth it?
Speaker 7: Yes?
Speaker 2: Was it worth giving up your fundamental freedoms just to
Speaker 2: not get shot in a gun massacre?
Speaker 8: You're talking about?
Speaker 2: Australians must now live in this well regulated nightmare because
Speaker 2: of ex politicians like Rob Borbige, who smugly thinks that
Speaker 2: his country has something to teach us.
Speaker 4: I hope that they would have a look at what
Speaker 4: has happened here.
Speaker 2: Why would people want to live like this?
Speaker 4: Because they might want a safer society to live in.
Speaker 2: But it's pointless for us to study the Australian experience
Speaker 2: because their fear of gun control back then has no
Speaker 2: parallels with ours. I mean what kind of things were
Speaker 2: you hearing when you suggested gun control.
Speaker 4: That government was becoming a dictatorship or that's one were
Speaker 4: told that people would not have the right to defend
Speaker 4: their property and their family.
Speaker 2: And that's definitely true.
Speaker 4: The democracy is at stake somehow if government decides there
Speaker 4: should be a background check.
Speaker 9: All right?
Speaker 4: That three, we're about to be invaded by the Indonesians.
Speaker 2: That's completely different. No one in America is afraid of Indonesians.
Speaker 2: Are they afraid of Mexicans and Muslims coming?
Speaker 7: Maybe?
Speaker 2: Sure, it claims Australians were angry, but where is the.
Speaker 6: Proof people's rights are being taken away from them?
Speaker 5: And I'm not going to give up any guns. Are
Speaker 5: they going to take off me? Are you going to
Speaker 5: give yours up?
Speaker 2: Okay, there it is, But how do those angry rural
Speaker 2: conservatives feel now?
Speaker 6: My immediate reaction was that it was an overreaction.
Speaker 7: Bad.
Speaker 8: As time went on, the regulations were quite manageable.
Speaker 2: So hold on, you didn't want to give up your
Speaker 2: high powered gun?
Speaker 7: No or bad.
Speaker 4: I felt as if I had a bit of a
Speaker 4: duty to the rest of the our society.
Speaker 2: And if you think that sounds bad, crazy, This effective
Speaker 2: gun control was enacted by conservative politicians against the will
Speaker 2: of their own base. But our politicians are different. They
Speaker 2: know that control doesn't work, or even if it.
Speaker 7: Does, it takes a long time.
Speaker 2: And to be fair, John Howard and his deputy Prime
Speaker 2: Minister Tim Fisher have had since nineteen ninety six to
Speaker 2: enact their sweeping reforms.
Speaker 9: It took less than three and a half months. What
Speaker 9: what put half of Messica was on the twenty eighth
Speaker 9: of April nineteen ninety six. In a twelve week period
Speaker 9: shortly following that, bulk of legislation was devised, drafted, debated,
Speaker 9: and implemented.
Speaker 5: But it doesn't work.
Speaker 9: Zero massacres since nineteen ninety six.
Speaker 5: Yeah, he keeps saying that, but gun control doesn't work.
Speaker 2: So my head was spinning. I had to clear it
Speaker 2: the traditional Aussie way.
Speaker 5: No, not that way.
Speaker 10: I look at that second saying political source zero since
Speaker 10: nis hungry.
Speaker 2: After three days in the bush with a guy in
Speaker 2: a kangaroo suit, it became clear what the real issue
Speaker 2: with gun control in America is. If girls aren't the problem, Philip,
Speaker 2: what is the problem?
Speaker 7: People?
Speaker 2: People are the problem?
Speaker 7: Yes? Do you know what?
Speaker 2: After spending this amount of time with you, Philip, I'm
Speaker 2: starting to believe that that's partially true.
Speaker 7: Good. I'm glad you understand that people are the problem.
Speaker 2: That is becoming just painfully obvious. After investigating the issue
Speaker 2: on opposite side of the Earth, I discovered that if
Speaker 2: Americans really do want gun control, there is actually one
Speaker 2: thing they can do to get it. They move to Australia.
Speaker 5: America loves guns. Call I love guns, but I also
Speaker 5: hate guns.
Speaker 3: Another mass shooting in America, A mass shooting.
Speaker 5: Yet another mass shooting.
Speaker 11: So I was wondering, what if there was a world
Speaker 11: where people could keep their guns and have no mass shootings.
Speaker 11: Welcome to Switzerland, a neutral country most known for its
Speaker 11: cobblestone streets perfect for skipping, its clocks, sophisticated pocket knives,
Speaker 11: and guns. Turns out, peaceful Switzerland is one of the
Speaker 11: most heavily armed nations in the world, and like America,
Speaker 11: they love their guns, yet they have almost zero gun violence.
Speaker 5: How the fuck is that possible? Luckily I ran into
Speaker 5: an expert. Is that a gun in your pocket? Or
Speaker 5: are you just oh, that's a gun?
Speaker 11: Meet Miko for twenty plus years, he's been firearms instructor
Speaker 11: for law enforcement personnel, military and special forces.
Speaker 5: He also happens to be one hunk of a man.
Speaker 5: So Thor tell me about Swiss gun culture.
Speaker 6: We respect the guns because we have a mandatory service.
Speaker 6: Every man goes to the army. They get a training
Speaker 6: in the rifle in case of the invasion.
Speaker 5: Which, to be fair, is a real threat.
Speaker 11: Since the last time Switzerland was invaded was in seventeen
Speaker 11: ninety eight, before.
Speaker 5: Color was invented, so of course they have a militia.
Speaker 6: The culture is a little bit different compared to some
Speaker 6: other country.
Speaker 12: You're familiar that I'm American, right, you can just say
Speaker 12: these things to my face. You don't have to say
Speaker 12: other countries.
Speaker 6: I think the gun culture in America, eyes is getting
Speaker 6: out of hands.
Speaker 7: Is a joke.
Speaker 6: That should be common Sen's gun lost common sense.
Speaker 8: That's not our strength.
Speaker 7: Yeah, I've noticed that.
Speaker 12: Yeah, well I can say that, but I don't like
Speaker 12: it when you say that.
Speaker 11: Okay, but what we do have is that good old
Speaker 11: American gun freedom.
Speaker 12: You know how easy it is to get a gun
Speaker 12: in the US. I just go to Walmart, give him
Speaker 12: the money a gun.
Speaker 7: I know, my uncle.
Speaker 12: Paul out of his truck, he's got a bunch of guns.
Speaker 12: My brother Todd has a gun. You want to use it? Boo,
Speaker 12: borrow for the weekend.
Speaker 5: That's nice.
Speaker 6: Not really. In Switzerland, you can get a gun from
Speaker 6: your grandparents or from your father, but you still have
Speaker 6: to do the paperwork.
Speaker 12: Even if I get a gun from my grandpa, I
Speaker 12: still got to tell the cops about it.
Speaker 11: Yeah, that's crazy because in most states in America you
Speaker 11: can buy a gun almost immediately without any background check,
Speaker 11: but not in Switzerland.
Speaker 6: You applied the permit from the police, You provide clearance
Speaker 6: of your criminal record that you don't have any convictions,
Speaker 6: wait for two weeks.
Speaker 5: What if it's a small crime.
Speaker 11: What if you got caught urinating in public, You got
Speaker 11: caught for sleeping with your cousin because you didn't know
Speaker 11: it was a cousin because it was at your.
Speaker 12: Family reunion and she looked like she worked at catering.
Speaker 11: What if it's like assaulting a police officer but really
Speaker 11: you were just tickling them.
Speaker 6: You can't be responsible of following some other simple rules
Speaker 6: in society to behave Why should you have a gun?
Speaker 5: You need to raise your voice over this? Was there
Speaker 5: even a payoff to all these rules?
Speaker 12: How many school shootings have there been no?
Speaker 5: What about malls?
Speaker 8: People should know?
Speaker 5: What about like major holidays?
Speaker 11: People get shot up at major holidays here? Probably come on,
Speaker 11: with all those guns, they had to have at least
Speaker 11: one mass shooting somewhere. After weeks of research, I discovered
Speaker 11: there was in fact one mass shooting in the Swiss
Speaker 11: parliament in two thousand and one, but they haven't had
Speaker 11: one since. You say, are you had a mass shooting
Speaker 11: seventeen years ago?
Speaker 5: We have won every seventeen minutes.
Speaker 12: Yeah, yeah, for example le Munis.
Speaker 5: Lisarma.
Speaker 12: This is something that I'm having a hard time comprehending.
Speaker 12: You learned from a mistake and you made an improvement
Speaker 12: in the law.
Speaker 5: That's so Europe.
Speaker 11: And while Switzerland his last mass shooting was in two
Speaker 11: thousand and one, America has at no keep going noe
Speaker 11: more more.
Speaker 5: Yeah. There you go.
Speaker 11: Over nineteen hundred mass shooting since twenty twelve, averaging to
Speaker 11: about one a day, which is why Miko felt I
Speaker 11: needed to be properly trained before I headed back to
Speaker 11: the States.
Speaker 6: We have to talk about safety first, Can I like,
Speaker 6: like with this one, yeah, just leave it alone, don't
Speaker 6: touch it.
Speaker 5: How are we going to shoot it if I can't
Speaker 5: touch it.
Speaker 6: Let me explain you the rules first. So number one
Speaker 6: thing that you have to remember is that you always
Speaker 6: treat the guns. Ask if they're loaded, because probably most
Speaker 6: of the accidents that happens happens with empty guns.
Speaker 5: All right, So this this one here, this.
Speaker 6: Don't touch it. Don't touch it. I think you don't
Speaker 6: pay enough, you know, attention to what I'm saying.
Speaker 5: Okay, I'm listening.
Speaker 13: So you just have to follow four simple rules.
Speaker 6: Number one, you treat the guns. You got a feeling
Speaker 6: that you're not paying attention.
Speaker 5: What no, I am. Let's do it up, Miko.
Speaker 11: When you load these things, you ever get a little
Speaker 11: bit of a direction.
Speaker 13: Do exactly what I say, Okay, okay, all right, pay
Speaker 13: attention to attention okay, and slowly press back until the
Speaker 13: gun goes off.
Speaker 5: Jesus, this scares the shit.
Speaker 7: Out of me.
Speaker 11: I'm glad we had that safety instruction. This is the dream,
Speaker 11: shooting guns without the fear of getting shot.
Speaker 5: This is where America should be.
Speaker 11: All we need to do is keep AMMO separate and
Speaker 11: have universal criminal and mental background checks, have extremely strict
Speaker 11: open carry laws.
Speaker 5: Justification for ownership.
Speaker 11: Send written request to authorities and basically just change our
Speaker 11: entire gun culture.
Speaker 5: We can do that, right, It's not really that fun.
Speaker 5: When you keep shitting yourself, you get used to it.
Speaker 14: Now.
Speaker 11: This isn't a green screen, this is real disgusting. Switzerland
Speaker 11: a neutral country full of non combative, chocolate eating yodelers,
Speaker 11: and they're also full of guns.
Speaker 5: In my previous report, I trained with firearms expert Miko
Speaker 5: mik Oh.
Speaker 11: Look, I shot some holes in the Swiss cheese put that.
Speaker 11: I learned that when it comes to gun culture, Switzerland
Speaker 11: has a few more regulations than America. And thanks to
Speaker 11: these gun regulations and strict ammunition control, Switzerland.
Speaker 5: Has a murder rate of nearly zero.
Speaker 11: Sure, that's a great statistic, but how safe can it
Speaker 11: really be. To learn more about their gun culture, I
Speaker 11: attended Chiosm, the world's largest annual shooting festival right here,
Speaker 11: and holy that's a lot of guns.
Speaker 5: Even that baby has a gun.
Speaker 11: There's not enough training in the world to prepare me
Speaker 11: for this. So I brought my two secret weapons, my
Speaker 11: translator Pierre and.
Speaker 5: My supermanly rock hard American vest.
Speaker 8: Why are you wearing a pussy west, Pierre.
Speaker 11: Best, Oh, that's that's funny. Pussy best. Why aren't you
Speaker 11: wearing a pussy best? People are walking around with guns.
Speaker 8: Because it's safe.
Speaker 14: What is that?
Speaker 5: What is that?
Speaker 14: Ye?
Speaker 5: Not shooting?
Speaker 11: No worries, they're shooting, Yeah, shooting over there? How many
Speaker 11: accidents have happened here? Nine nine accidents?
Speaker 5: No zero zero zero zero. I thought you said nine nine.
Speaker 11: Okay, it's a German language, the German language.
Speaker 5: I know in the United American this is dangerous. But
Speaker 5: in the Switzerland we have we have rules and this
Speaker 5: we haven't rules rules? What kind of rules? Let little
Speaker 5: kids participate in this October fest?
Speaker 11: You love shooting, so it's like yoga. Yes, they also
Speaker 11: throw booze into the mix, because.
Speaker 8: Poor it's a it's a national party.
Speaker 11: Oh, here comes the beer, everybody. Let's let the beer
Speaker 11: walk through. We've got rifles and the beers.
Speaker 3: We came and here are the peepers with the friends
Speaker 3: and la la la la the beer, La la la
Speaker 3: la la beer.
Speaker 7: We make the Yeah, it's.
Speaker 5: Finished, well said guns and beers.
Speaker 11: This was an American wet dream, but something was different
Speaker 11: in this country.
Speaker 9: We respect arms, and if you respect it, it's not
Speaker 9: the problem.
Speaker 5: Why should I listen to this drunk Swiss role.
Speaker 10: I was president for five years.
Speaker 11: You're telling me I'm having beer with the former president
Speaker 11: of Switzerland.
Speaker 8: Yes, cheers.
Speaker 11: Nowhere else could a former president be surrounded by thousands
Speaker 11: of firearms.
Speaker 5: With no security. How can we get America to feel
Speaker 5: this safe?
Speaker 8: That's your problem, that's my problem.
Speaker 5: Well, that's as neutral as it gets. But he's right,
Speaker 5: it is our problem.
Speaker 11: I mean, here they can shoot guns, drink beer and
Speaker 11: no one gets hurt.
Speaker 5: In America, something like this could never happen.
Speaker 11: I decided to embrace this culture and hang with the
Speaker 11: only group that would let me in.
Speaker 7: Wow.
Speaker 11: Yeah, you guys got air fifteens here huh.
Speaker 5: Meet the Shooting Society of Press.
Speaker 11: It was time to show these Swiss fondues how Americans
Speaker 11: shoot guns.
Speaker 5: I missed, You're missed. Oh I miss What.
Speaker 9: Do you know?
Speaker 5: You're ten years old. You probably never even kissed the girl.
Speaker 5: Did you ever take your gun to school?
Speaker 11: No? No, we don't.
Speaker 5: I You're not American.
Speaker 10: No.
Speaker 5: Okay, well I can say that, but he can't Swiss kids.
Speaker 11: Huh, even if it is true, because the fact is,
Speaker 11: for Swiss kids, life with guns is very different.
Speaker 4: It's nothing happens it's not like like in the US
Speaker 4: where you have those mass shootings.
Speaker 5: When he goes to school, he just has to worry
Speaker 5: about school.
Speaker 7: Yeah, catching the bus sometime.
Speaker 11: Unlike America, Switzerland has found a way to peacefully coexist
Speaker 11: with firearms.
Speaker 9: Shot shots shots o, whoa, whoa.
Speaker 11: And one of the main reasons is that while these
Speaker 11: gun owners may be loaded, it's actually illegal for their guns.
Speaker 5: To be loaded when not in use.
Speaker 1: We got beer, we got guns, we got food.
Speaker 7: I feel like I.
Speaker 5: Brought another testicle down here.
Speaker 11: So America, if we're going to insist on being a
Speaker 11: nation of the gun nuts, we could at least try
Speaker 11: and Swiss things up.
Speaker 1: A little while back, I traveled to mary Old, England,
Speaker 1: a country that's got all kinds of weapons, swords, shields,
Speaker 1: wooden catapults, terrible massage chairs, even magic wands. But the
Speaker 1: one weapon you don't see is guns. So I wanted
Speaker 1: to find out why.
Speaker 7: In my new segment Roy meets World, Edward, where are
Speaker 7: you from?
Speaker 5: Higan?
Speaker 7: Okay?
Speaker 1: So do you feel safer here or visiting America?
Speaker 7: Yeah? Safeer hair? Why why do you feel safe here?
Speaker 5: Because everybody's packing in the sights.
Speaker 7: You really don't see guns out here on a regular basis.
Speaker 8: And really even with the cops. If you I mean,
Speaker 8: if you're walking around and you do see some cops,
Speaker 8: they don't have guns on them.
Speaker 7: Why is there why y'all police don't have guns?
Speaker 8: I honestly don't know about that one.
Speaker 1: But how are you gonna accidentally kill somebody you wanted
Speaker 1: to kill?
Speaker 8: Well, that's the whole point.
Speaker 7: You shouldn't be doing that. So in the UK, how
Speaker 7: do you show power? How do you show people you
Speaker 7: got a big dick but you don't have a gun.
Speaker 15: I don't try and show people that I got a
Speaker 15: big dick.
Speaker 5: I know I've got one.
Speaker 7: Like I think that we didn't do it as one.
Speaker 7: Are you impressed by men who have big guns? Were Way?
Speaker 5: It's not common to have guns in private homes at all.
Speaker 7: Okay, So in Norway, how do men let women know
Speaker 7: that they have a big show it to them.
Speaker 1: I can't do that in a minute, that is not
Speaker 1: an option. So they are packing. See there's so much
Speaker 1: our two cultures can learn from each other. Why do
Speaker 1: you think Americans love guns so much?
Speaker 15: I think it's something like deeply ingrained in the culture,
Speaker 15: Like guns have been around for a long long time.
Speaker 15: In the US, like in the UK, it's not so
Speaker 15: much of an issue because it's very underground, whereas in
Speaker 15: America it's normalized.
Speaker 7: Everyone.
Speaker 5: You can walk into a Walmart and.
Speaker 7: Buy a gun, yes, and the pack skirtles and some
Speaker 7: ice cream. It's a red back out the door. So
Speaker 7: where you are from.
Speaker 5: So Africa.
Speaker 7: Why do you think Americans love guns so much?
Speaker 3: Probably the Constitution and just because they're crazy, damn you
Speaker 3: right out.
Speaker 1: What is America's reputation in the world.
Speaker 3: Probably mass shootings, as bad as it sounds.
Speaker 1: That's how we know them for No, there's not any
Speaker 1: that dogs.
Speaker 7: Steph Curry. Why do you think Americans love guns so much?
Speaker 14: From an outsider's perspective, I think they are also really
Speaker 14: proud of their military and everything. But America, I think
Speaker 14: so at least Yeah, yeah.
Speaker 7: Okay, Bridge Ass Silvil War. We wooked down ass, So
Speaker 7: they didn't really know.
Speaker 1: America's wreck it on the court and it turns out
Speaker 1: guns aren't just hurting our people, they're hurting our street
Speaker 1: cred all over the world.
Speaker 8: I feel like, you know, the US was kind of
Speaker 8: like this beacon that a lot of people followed. If
Speaker 8: you look at it from the gun perspective, some of
Speaker 8: the other topics that are going on currently as well.
Speaker 8: I think it is affecting a little of its credibility
Speaker 8: on the global stage.
Speaker 3: It's a problem when guns a good more rocks than women, sir,
Speaker 3: within the country here, Yeah, yeah, you have.
Speaker 1: Is it possible that the the world is just being
Speaker 1: too hard on America and the gun violence?
Speaker 7: We only been around two hundred years. Yeah, you gotta
Speaker 7: use some growing things.
Speaker 1: Everybody know, when you start a country, it's gonna be
Speaker 1: rough for a little while because you just whooped somebody's
Speaker 1: assenal disrespect.
Speaker 12: Have little faith in the country at the moment.
Speaker 6: Like, I've never been, I've always wanted to visit it,
Speaker 6: but every time we talk about it, we're like, actually, like.
Speaker 1: So Americans might not be airbnb in their fully armed
Speaker 1: apartments to these people anytime soon. But that doesn't mean
Speaker 1: that all of Europe is a gun free zone.
Speaker 5: We can take you Spitzbergen in Norway.
Speaker 14: That's the highest density of guns in any society in
Speaker 14: the world. Everybody has a gun in spitzburg that's for
Speaker 14: protecting for polar bears. But they don't shoot each other.
Speaker 7: It's just for the polar bears.
Speaker 5: Right, Yeah, but you.
Speaker 14: Have to wear a gun if you go outside the city.
Speaker 7: You have to lie to go without. Wait, it's a
Speaker 7: law that you have to wear a gun, and.
Speaker 14: That one in the party has to wear a gun
Speaker 14: to go outside of the city limits.
Speaker 7: To keep you from getting eaten by polar bears.
Speaker 6: Yeah.
Speaker 7: Damn mandatory guns to fight polar bears. I'm canceling my
Speaker 7: trip to Oslo, Honduras. Here I come, snow polar bears there, right.
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