WEBVTT - #533 Packers Unscripted: Rodgers' reaction, more on rookies

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<v Speaker 1>Hi, everyone, Welcome to another edition of Packers Unscripted Social

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<v Speaker 1>distancing Style from Packers dot Com. I am Mike Spofford,

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<v Speaker 1>joined as always by my trusted colleague West had Ko.

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<v Speaker 1>It's coming to you from our humble abodes and West.

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<v Speaker 1>Late last week we heard from quarterback Aaron Rodgers. He

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<v Speaker 1>spoke publicly on a conference call with Wisconsin media for

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<v Speaker 1>the first time since the Packers drafted Jordan's Love and

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<v Speaker 1>changed the whole dynamic at quarterback, and all of the

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<v Speaker 1>speculation about Aaron Rodgers future and the Packers future was

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<v Speaker 1>thrown up in the air. What was your initial reaction

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<v Speaker 1>to what the quarterback had to say. Well, first and foremost,

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<v Speaker 1>I did a radio interview with Jason will They right afterwards. Uh,

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<v Speaker 1>And the thing I told him was that I felt

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<v Speaker 1>like Rogers hit it out of the park. I thought

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<v Speaker 1>he hit all of the notes he needed to hit.

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<v Speaker 1>Aaron Rodgers obviously knows he has to be accepting of

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<v Speaker 1>Jordan's Love because, as he said, Jordan's Love didn't ask

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<v Speaker 1>to come to Green Bay, he didn't ask to be drafted.

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<v Speaker 1>And as I wrote an insider inbox on Saturday, all

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<v Speaker 1>the young man is asking for is an opportunity to

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<v Speaker 1>learn and he has that now. With Aaron Rodgers. This

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<v Speaker 1>is an ego game. I get it. There are there

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<v Speaker 1>are big personalities there. You know, when you're playing at

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<v Speaker 1>this level and there's this amount of athleticism and elite competition,

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<v Speaker 1>it only makes sense that there's gonna be chips on

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<v Speaker 1>shoulders and you know, you feel wrong, do you feel

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<v Speaker 1>right at whatever? But the thing is is that Aaron

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<v Speaker 1>Rodgers is still very much the man. Matt Lafleur, speaking

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<v Speaker 1>after Aaron Rodgers, talked about how much they need him

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<v Speaker 1>right now if they're going to be able to win

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<v Speaker 1>the championships. They feel like this team can still achieve.

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<v Speaker 1>But at the same time, I thought it was important

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<v Speaker 1>that Rogers also pointed out that his goals have not changed.

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<v Speaker 1>He still wants to play into his forties. He still

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<v Speaker 1>believes as long as his love of playing, his health

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<v Speaker 1>is where it needs to be, that he can be

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<v Speaker 1>one of the top quarterbacks in this league. And he's

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<v Speaker 1>looking forward to having the opportunity to prove that. What

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<v Speaker 1>happens in these next four or five years, certainly they're

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<v Speaker 1>gonna have huge implications for the future of the franchise.

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<v Speaker 1>Whether it's Rogers Love or anyone else who's going to

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<v Speaker 1>be quarterback of this team going into the next decade.

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<v Speaker 1>But the fact remains that right now it's Aaron Rodgers

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<v Speaker 1>and it's Jordan's Love, and they need those two pieces

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<v Speaker 1>to work together if they're gonna be able to get

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<v Speaker 1>this team in the immediate to where it needs to go. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>like the main things that I took out of what

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<v Speaker 1>he said, I mean, one, I think he's very excited

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<v Speaker 1>and very fired up about the two thousand twenty Packers

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<v Speaker 1>and where this team can go. He knows where he

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<v Speaker 1>is in Matt Lafleur system coming off of the first year,

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<v Speaker 1>moving into the second year. He did mention he has

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<v Speaker 1>a lot of confidence in the receivers. I'm sure he

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<v Speaker 1>would have liked to have seen another high draft pick

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<v Speaker 1>brought in at receiver. I mean a lot of people did,

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<v Speaker 1>but Okay, it didn't happen. He's gonna work with what

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<v Speaker 1>he has. He's excited about Devin Functious, the free agent

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<v Speaker 1>signing in terms of Roger's own long term future playing

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<v Speaker 1>and simple I thought he was just being a realist.

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<v Speaker 1>He understands the situation, and I thought he laid out

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<v Speaker 1>in in very clear terms that he just feels the

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<v Speaker 1>main thing is he's lost whatever control he might have

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<v Speaker 1>had over his desire, his his very long stated desire

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<v Speaker 1>to start and finish his career with the Green Bay Packers.

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<v Speaker 1>That's not really entirely in his hands anymore. I think

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<v Speaker 1>what when unset a little bit is that he, as

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<v Speaker 1>he has openly said many times, he plans to play

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<v Speaker 1>into his forties. He'd like to play his entire career

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<v Speaker 1>with one team. I think because of what Brett Farve

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<v Speaker 1>went through and Aaron Rodgers was right in the middle

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<v Speaker 1>of that, I think Rogers was trying to keep as

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<v Speaker 1>much control of that narrative as he could by being

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<v Speaker 1>open about his plans and how long he intends to

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<v Speaker 1>play and how long he wants to play, because he

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<v Speaker 1>saw far going back and forth on retirement and that

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<v Speaker 1>very much played into the Packers decision to draft Rogers

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<v Speaker 1>in the first place. So, yeah, so he lost some

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<v Speaker 1>of that control um in what happened here. But okay,

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<v Speaker 1>it's it's like, all right, I'll get over it and

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<v Speaker 1>it's time to move on with the team. And right

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<v Speaker 1>now the focus iss he's not as much focused on

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<v Speaker 1>his long term future anymore because that much more of

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<v Speaker 1>it is out of his hands. Yeah, and I think

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<v Speaker 1>that was an important point you raised there when you

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<v Speaker 1>look at the long term outlook and where he's been

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<v Speaker 1>he has. It is one of the reasons why I

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<v Speaker 1>said all along, I thought the Packers would wait, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>with the quarterback situation, because it is an apples to

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<v Speaker 1>apples as far as Rogers and far. At the same time,

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<v Speaker 1>I think the game is changing a little bit. I

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<v Speaker 1>think you're gonna start seeing more teams being you know,

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<v Speaker 1>down with the idea that we might take a quarterback

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<v Speaker 1>in the first round, we might take one in the

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<v Speaker 1>top ten. But we gotta let this young man develop.

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<v Speaker 1>He can't just be a week one starter. We can't

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<v Speaker 1>expect him to be a week one starter. And it

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<v Speaker 1>goes back to you look at what's happening with two

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<v Speaker 1>right now with Miami. I don't think the doll has

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<v Speaker 1>had any plan. You know, if everything stays healthy with

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<v Speaker 1>Ryan Fitzpatrick, they want to give him the year to

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<v Speaker 1>be able to develop. The Green Bay Packers are gonna

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<v Speaker 1>want to give Jordan's love time to develop because as

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<v Speaker 1>much as sometimes that sink or swim mentality. It does

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<v Speaker 1>pay off, sometimes it doesn't, and then you start looking

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<v Speaker 1>at guys. You know, obviously the last few years there's

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<v Speaker 1>been some good examples of it where if you would

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<v Speaker 1>have just given this young man a little bit more time,

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<v Speaker 1>could you have gotten a different quarterback in the long run.

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<v Speaker 1>I think that's something that needs to be considered. And

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<v Speaker 1>then the other thing too, Uh you mentioned talking about

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<v Speaker 1>the receivers when I said Rogers hit it out of

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<v Speaker 1>the park. It goes along with what he said about

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<v Speaker 1>this year's roster as well. He still feels like this

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<v Speaker 1>is a team that can compete for championships in two

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<v Speaker 1>thousand and twenty. You look at Alan Lazard. He talked

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<v Speaker 1>about this guy being an up and coming playmaker in

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<v Speaker 1>this league. He made it a point, Honestly, Mike, I

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<v Speaker 1>felt like probably the most salient point he made in

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<v Speaker 1>the entire news conference forty minutes long, was saying that

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<v Speaker 1>he has all the confidence in the world and Marquisveld

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<v Speaker 1>is scantling. The Packers need to get MBS back to

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<v Speaker 1>where he was playing in two thousand and eighteen when

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<v Speaker 1>he had that confidence, that swagger, because he's a home

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<v Speaker 1>run threat that you weren't gonna be able to just

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<v Speaker 1>find in the draft. I mean, guys that run a

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<v Speaker 1>four three seven and have that down field ability, they

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<v Speaker 1>just aren't just sitting out there waiting to be taken.

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<v Speaker 1>You need to be able to develop that. Those guys

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<v Speaker 1>need to have those natural traits. E q st. Brown,

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<v Speaker 1>you can go on and on. Obviously, Mr consistency. Jake

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<v Speaker 1>Kumro probably just needing a few more opportunities to show

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<v Speaker 1>what he can do. And then you throw in the

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<v Speaker 1>running backs and the tight ends. The Packers do have weapons.

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<v Speaker 1>I thought there was a point on Twitter I saw

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<v Speaker 1>a couple of days ago. You know this isn't like

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<v Speaker 1>this is like the Jake Plumber Cardinals where it's just

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<v Speaker 1>there's no weapons for Aaron Rodgers, Davante Adams, Aaron Jones.

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<v Speaker 1>The list goes on and on of guys that they

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<v Speaker 1>can move the football with. But making sure that those

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<v Speaker 1>young guys on this roster understand that there's a huge

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<v Speaker 1>opportunity for you guys to be able to not only

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<v Speaker 1>grab roles, but really become stars in this league. With

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<v Speaker 1>the quarterback that the Packers have, if you can grab

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<v Speaker 1>that brass rank yeah, absolutely, and one other point I

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<v Speaker 1>want to make before we move on, just with regard

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<v Speaker 1>to Rogers acknowledging he's lost a little bit of maybe

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<v Speaker 1>the control of his long term future. He was not

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<v Speaker 1>looking for any sympathy or anything like that in terms

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<v Speaker 1>of in terms of those thoughts, He's very well aware

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<v Speaker 1>that you know, Joe Montana and now Tom Brady and

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<v Speaker 1>other you know Peyton Manning, other quarterbacks like that Hall

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<v Speaker 1>of Famers did not play their entire careers with one team.

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<v Speaker 1>So he knows that if this does happen down the

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<v Speaker 1>road and he moves on from the Packers, but he

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<v Speaker 1>still wants to play, and the Packers have decided to

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<v Speaker 1>turn the reins over to Jordan's love whenever that might be,

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<v Speaker 1>he knows he's not going to be the first, So

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<v Speaker 1>he's not looking for any sympathy in that regard. He's

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<v Speaker 1>simply acknowledging that it's that much more of a reality

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<v Speaker 1>now because of the decision the Packers made. Well, and

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<v Speaker 1>the thing I said, and it was two thousand fourteen,

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<v Speaker 1>and I made this point on unscripted. I've certainly made

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<v Speaker 1>it an inbox before, but it was two thousand and

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<v Speaker 1>fourteen that proved to me that Aaron Rodgers, barring any

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<v Speaker 1>type of injury, is going to be able to play

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<v Speaker 1>into the to his forties because of how he evolved

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<v Speaker 1>into a pocket pastor when he did have the calf

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<v Speaker 1>injury and he wasn't able to extend plays the way

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<v Speaker 1>he did in the past, I thought that was a

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<v Speaker 1>bright spot for his future in this league and his

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<v Speaker 1>ability to play into his late thirties and into his forties.

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<v Speaker 1>The thing we have to acknowledge and understand because there's

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<v Speaker 1>some people that pointed out too well, it's no certainty

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<v Speaker 1>if you take a quarterback in the first round if

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<v Speaker 1>they're going to develop into a Pro Bowl or an

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<v Speaker 1>All Pro. But that's every position. It isn't just exclusive

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<v Speaker 1>to quarterback. Packers could have taken anybody at twenty six.

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<v Speaker 1>They could have taken anybody at thirty. It doesn't necessarily

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<v Speaker 1>mean that that guy was going to become the be

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<v Speaker 1>all end all in this offense or defense. So for

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<v Speaker 1>the Packers, what you have to do, if you're Brian

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<v Speaker 1>Goodin's you have to trust your eye. You have to

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<v Speaker 1>be like, Okay, I like what I see on film

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<v Speaker 1>with Jordan's loved this guy is the best prospect for

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<v Speaker 1>us where we're drafting, We're gonna take that route with

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<v Speaker 1>the understanding that Aaron Rodgers is our quarterback. Aaron Rodgers

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<v Speaker 1>could be the quarterback for the next six years. We

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<v Speaker 1>don't know. Jordan's Love is an investment in the few, Sure,

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<v Speaker 1>he's an investment in the present and more than anything else.

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<v Speaker 1>For the first time in Aaron Rodgers tenure as a

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<v Speaker 1>starting quarterback, the Packers have a bona fide and credential

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<v Speaker 1>first round draft pick behind him. Now that's the most

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<v Speaker 1>decorated backup they've had since a guy named Aaron Rodgers.

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<v Speaker 1>All things that you have to consider, Yeah, absolutely and

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<v Speaker 1>uh and talk about what I think is going to

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<v Speaker 1>be a great situation for Jordan's Love to be walking into. Well, um,

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<v Speaker 1>moving on to excuse me. We've been continuing to post

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<v Speaker 1>some follow up stories on the Packers draft picks, catching

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<v Speaker 1>up with their college coaches and other contacts in their past.

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<v Speaker 1>You have a story that is now up on our

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<v Speaker 1>website on the seventh round selection, the first of the

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<v Speaker 1>two seventh round selections. That's TCU safety Vernon Scott. So

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<v Speaker 1>I will toss you the question that I threw at

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<v Speaker 1>you last week. What was your favorite little story, little

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<v Speaker 1>anecdote that you heard when you were looking into Mr

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<v Speaker 1>Scott's past. So I had a chance to talk with

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<v Speaker 1>Paul Gonzalez from TCU, the safety's coach, but he also

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<v Speaker 1>is the guy that recruited Vernon Scott to TCU out

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<v Speaker 1>of high school. His high school is about a half

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<v Speaker 1>an hour away from campus, so this was kind of

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<v Speaker 1>a no brainer for them. He was mostly a basketball player,

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<v Speaker 1>that was his first sport. Came to football late. Really,

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<v Speaker 1>it wasn't until his senior year that he dedicated him

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<v Speaker 1>not really dedicated himself, but established himself as Okay, I'm

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<v Speaker 1>going to be a college football player. That's where my

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<v Speaker 1>future lies. When he was in high school, they used

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<v Speaker 1>them strictly as basically a shutdown cornerback. They tried that

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<v Speaker 1>when he got to TCU, but they did Certaday determined

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<v Speaker 1>that his best option as far as playing on defense,

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<v Speaker 1>is going to be if he moves to safety. This guy,

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<v Speaker 1>first and foremost was a tremendous special teams player. Mike.

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<v Speaker 1>From a defensive perspective, he probably could have read shirted

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<v Speaker 1>his first year on campus, but as Gonzalez said, we

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<v Speaker 1>needed him on special teams. He played basically the core

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<v Speaker 1>four units from day one, but the problem was with

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<v Speaker 1>some of the depth that they had in the in

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<v Speaker 1>the second area, and also the fact of just his

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<v Speaker 1>own personal development as a young guy adjusting to playing

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<v Speaker 1>defensive back. It took time for him to get into

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<v Speaker 1>the lineup. But the thing you understand with Vernon Scott

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<v Speaker 1>is how beloved this guy is. He was one of

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<v Speaker 1>the most popular guys in TCUs locker room. Just an

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<v Speaker 1>absolute try hard, put everything into what he did, and

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<v Speaker 1>he happens to be six ft two and about two

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<v Speaker 1>five pounds. This is a big safety that can do

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<v Speaker 1>a lot of things for you. A couple of different

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<v Speaker 1>moments stepped out jumped out to Gonzalez. Certainly you look

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<v Speaker 1>at the play sheet, it's that game against Oklahoma, the

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<v Speaker 1>nine yard interception return for a touchdown. But it was

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<v Speaker 1>the little things along the way, just seeing those small

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<v Speaker 1>victories for him. This is a guy that never complained

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<v Speaker 1>about playing time. He never tried to transfer because he

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<v Speaker 1>wasn't on defense. He just followed the process, trusted it,

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<v Speaker 1>and then it ended up leading to him having a starting, full,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, fledged job. His senior year moved a little

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<v Speaker 1>bit between strong and free safety ended up finishing it strong,

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<v Speaker 1>and that's the position Gonzalez feels that's really gonna be

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<v Speaker 1>where his future lies in this league and in what

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<v Speaker 1>his base starting point will be in addition to his

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<v Speaker 1>efforts on spec teams. Yeah, I can't even imagine how

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<v Speaker 1>much fun it would be to intercept a pass and

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<v Speaker 1>return at yards for a touchdown, especially against Oklahoma. And

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<v Speaker 1>you play at when in Norman, when you play at

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<v Speaker 1>TCU in Fort Worth, so that that had to be

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<v Speaker 1>quite a thrill for that young man. Well, I've posted

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<v Speaker 1>a story on the Packers other seventh round pick, edge

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<v Speaker 1>rusher Jonathan Garvin from Miami six ft four fifty seven pounds.

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<v Speaker 1>I believe the really interesting thing with him. I talked

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<v Speaker 1>with Manny Diaz who is now the head coach with

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<v Speaker 1>the Miami Hurricanes. Um he rose to that position last year.

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<v Speaker 1>The previous two years he was Miami's defensive coordinator, so

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<v Speaker 1>he was there for all and very much involved in

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<v Speaker 1>Garvin's three year career with Miami. And the thing that

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<v Speaker 1>Manny Diaz can kept saying, he kept using the word upside,

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<v Speaker 1>and I know that that's that's an overused word it's

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<v Speaker 1>a common word that's used with draft picks. But here's

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<v Speaker 1>the thing. West, Jonathan Garvin arrived at Miami as a

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<v Speaker 1>seventeen year old. He's now entering the NFL as a

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<v Speaker 1>twenty year old. He's still had a year left. This

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<v Speaker 1>is this is a young man who still has so

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<v Speaker 1>much in front of him that there's no telling exactly

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<v Speaker 1>where the ceiling is. And I think that's why the

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<v Speaker 1>Packers invested the last of their nine draft picks at

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<v Speaker 1>the end of the seventh round in this young man.

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<v Speaker 1>Diaz talked specifically about Garvin's freshman year now as a

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<v Speaker 1>true freshman, you know, seventeen year old, just turned just

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<v Speaker 1>turning eighteen at the time. He was getting playing time

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<v Speaker 1>on defense as a true freshman for Diaz. And there

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<v Speaker 1>was a three game stretch of that freshman year. And

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<v Speaker 1>this is in the meat of Miami schedule, not the

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<v Speaker 1>early season non conference pushovers, but in the meat of

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<v Speaker 1>their schedule. He had a three game stretch where he

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<v Speaker 1>had a block punt, he had a strip sack, and

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<v Speaker 1>then he had a strip sack the following week. And

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<v Speaker 1>he actually recovered the fumbles on both of the strip

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<v Speaker 1>sacks himself. He's just started to show up very very

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<v Speaker 1>early in his career with this playmaking potential. And that's

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<v Speaker 1>the that's the kind of thing that the Packers are

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<v Speaker 1>latching onto here with this late round draft pick, to

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<v Speaker 1>just see how high does this does this ceiling go.

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<v Speaker 1>His best year at Miami, his sophomore year two thousand

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<v Speaker 1>and eight teen, he had seventeen seventeen and a half

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<v Speaker 1>tackles for lost, five and a half sacks. The sacks

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<v Speaker 1>state about the same his junior years third season with five.

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<v Speaker 1>The tackles for lost dropped in his overall tackle total drop.

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<v Speaker 1>So another example of how development isn't always linear. Things

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<v Speaker 1>don't always go in a straight line. But the potential

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<v Speaker 1>is the potential is there. And yes, he entered the

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<v Speaker 1>draft early. He waited all the way until the seventh

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<v Speaker 1>round to get picked. That would certainly indicate another year

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<v Speaker 1>in college might have helped his game, but he made

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<v Speaker 1>the decision that he wanted to make, and uh, and

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<v Speaker 1>the Packers are gonna see what exactly they can tap

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<v Speaker 1>into as this young man starts his pro career. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>and into garbage credit to I mean, he didn't want

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<v Speaker 1>to go into specifics and we did talk about this

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<v Speaker 1>little bit, but you know, there were family, there are

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<v Speaker 1>personal considerations in mind when he did make that decision

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<v Speaker 1>to go out. The thing that I keep coming back to, though, Mike,

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<v Speaker 1>is that two thous an eighteen season, because as you said,

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<v Speaker 1>that was kind of his breakout year, his tackles for

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<v Speaker 1>loss or through the roof a lot of pressures and

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<v Speaker 1>certainly trying to develop. Now is is a finisher with

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<v Speaker 1>the sacks. But he did that at nineteen years old,

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<v Speaker 1>and this is a guy that won't turn twenty one

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<v Speaker 1>until July. Uh. We didn't have access to Mike Smithy

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<v Speaker 1>at the Packers outside linebackers coach. You know, Frankly, I

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<v Speaker 1>don't know win that's gonna happen, just based on this

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<v Speaker 1>whole COVID deal. But I wish I could have been

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<v Speaker 1>from a socially acceptable distance. I wish I could have

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<v Speaker 1>been in that room with him when they drafted Garvin

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<v Speaker 1>because you have to imagine with how excited he was

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<v Speaker 1>last year when the Packers claimed Tim Williams. He has

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<v Speaker 1>to turn on the film of Garvin and be really

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<v Speaker 1>energized by what he sees with this young man. And

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<v Speaker 1>the beautiful thing about it much like the whole Jordan

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<v Speaker 1>Love deal with Aaron Rodgers, although certainly the pedigrees are

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<v Speaker 1>a little bit different. You're talking about a first rounder

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<v Speaker 1>versus seventh rounder. But this is a guy that isn't

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<v Speaker 1>gonna have to come in and just be a stud.

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<v Speaker 1>He played right off the bat at Miami. He probably

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<v Speaker 1>is not going to have to do that in Green Bay.

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<v Speaker 1>He's going to have time to develop. You have Preston Smith,

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<v Speaker 1>you have za Darius Smith in Rashaan Gary, who is

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<v Speaker 1>the twelfth overall pick last year. That is gonna be

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<v Speaker 1>the meat and potatoes right now. If this packers pass rush,

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<v Speaker 1>but you put a young man like that in that room.

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<v Speaker 1>Tim Williams is still here, there's a huge opportunity for

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<v Speaker 1>someone to grab onto that last you know, fourth spot

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<v Speaker 1>or fifth spot. However they do it, but typically end

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<v Speaker 1>up at least having four that spot that Tyler Facral vacated.

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<v Speaker 1>You know. Also with Randy Ramsey coming back on the

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<v Speaker 1>practice squad after a full year. I like that competition

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<v Speaker 1>that's brewing, and certainly there are a lot of unknowns

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<v Speaker 1>with Garvin. He needs to be able to show the

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<v Speaker 1>strides to be able to make that move to be

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<v Speaker 1>in a stand up outside rusher. But that being said,

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<v Speaker 1>as a seventh round pick, Mike, this is what you

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<v Speaker 1>look for. You look for flyers, and Garvin certainly has

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<v Speaker 1>a lot of upside and ceiling that he looks to

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<v Speaker 1>fulfill now in Green Bay. Yeah, no doubt about it. Well, Wes,

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<v Speaker 1>you told us before we turn the cameras on you've

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<v Speaker 1>been having some internet trouble and we've gotten this far

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<v Speaker 1>without any issues. So I think we're gonna call it

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<v Speaker 1>a Packers unscripted exactly. Let's just let's get out of

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<v Speaker 1>year and and call it a show. So thank you

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<v Speaker 1>for tuning in, everybody for Wes. I am Mike. Stay

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<v Speaker 1>safe and we will see you next time. Yeah,