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Speaker 1: Hey, everybody, It's Daniel Jeremiah and Bucky Brooks and this

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Speaker 1: is Josh Allen. Three six. Here's Allen showing you the

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Speaker 1: armstring a touchdown. Allen has completed five and a rele

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Speaker 1: looking for number six loads and update towards the ends,

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Speaker 1: all passes cod for the touchdown. Allen cat touchdown? Who

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Speaker 1: said to me about suddling for a field goal? That's

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Speaker 1: six for the Cowboys? All right, black Well, this is

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Speaker 1: one of the more interesting players in this entire draft class.

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Speaker 1: Opinions are all over the place on him, but I

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Speaker 1: thought we did a nice deep dive here on Josh Allen.

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Speaker 1: We got a chance to visit with some very interesting folks,

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Speaker 1: including the man himself. For those of you who haven't

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Speaker 1: tuned into the three sixty episode before, this entire podcast

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Speaker 1: is dedicated to quarterback prospect Josh Allen. We're gonna break

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Speaker 1: down his game, his potential, and what teams would fit

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Speaker 1: his game the best. We interview some of the coaches

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Speaker 1: who know him best, and we'll also talk to Josh

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Speaker 1: Allen himself. I got some people think could be the

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Speaker 1: interesting stuff coming up on Josh Allen in this episode.

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Speaker 1: But before we get to the folks around Josh Allen,

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Speaker 1: let's let's get our own opinion in here or what

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Speaker 1: you think and I'm I'll give you the floor here first, Buck, Look,

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Speaker 1: this is an A plus talent. This is a guy

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Speaker 1: that we talk about, we dream about as a scout

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Speaker 1: and he is everything that you want to work with

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Speaker 1: as a quarterback coach. Meaning he's undeveloped, he's raw, he's unrefined.

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Speaker 1: But if you hit on it, you're talking about a

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Speaker 1: the game has played at that position. Yeah, the number

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Speaker 1: with him people are gonna point to as a completion percentage.

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Speaker 1: That's the focus. And anybody wants to take shots at

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Speaker 1: Josh Allen talking about how he's not accurate, that's the

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Speaker 1: one thing, and then the second thing they say, well,

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Speaker 1: when they step up in competition. He hasn't played well

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Speaker 1: the other side of the argument is say, okay, well

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Speaker 1: I will point to the best case I can make

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Speaker 1: for Josh Allen. And I've I've done this with you before,

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Speaker 1: but to me, it's it's the San Jose State game

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Speaker 1: not play in that game. That's a San Jose State

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Speaker 1: Here are our first interview is with Alan's head coach

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Speaker 1: at Wyoming, Craig Bowl. All Right, Buck excited to be

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Speaker 1: joined by Craig Bowl, head coach at the University of

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Speaker 1: Wyoming and and coach Josh Allen. This is a This

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Speaker 1: is the guy that's created the most buzz, definitely through

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Speaker 1: He's got great determination, He was underdeveloped guy out of

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Speaker 1: right now. Where, to be honest with you, I think

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Speaker 1: for Jerry Goff, I think it happened the second year,

429
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Speaker 1: quite the whole first year difference between maybe getting benched

430
00:19:37,720 --> 00:19:40,159
Speaker 1: and going to a Pro Bowl. Now with these guys,

431
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Speaker 1: you know, I think it's gonna happen really really early. Um,

432
00:19:43,200 --> 00:19:45,760
Speaker 1: And the bigger the ball you play Deshaun Watson to

433
00:19:46,000 --> 00:19:49,919
Speaker 1: national championships. Yeah, it should happen. Quicker. You just you

434
00:19:50,040 --> 00:19:53,320
Speaker 1: just beat Bamma. You should be real confident, you know.

435
00:19:53,720 --> 00:19:57,400
Speaker 1: But we're going from high school, a small school to juco.

436
00:19:57,480 --> 00:20:01,160
Speaker 1: Beaut was in junior college three years ago, So why wyoming? Um,

437
00:20:01,200 --> 00:20:03,840
Speaker 1: I'm gonna be pushing the sports psychologists side of me

438
00:20:04,200 --> 00:20:06,600
Speaker 1: is gonna be pushing him to understand that he's good

439
00:20:06,720 --> 00:20:10,359
Speaker 1: enough now and so therefore he's old enough. What was

440
00:20:10,400 --> 00:20:13,080
Speaker 1: the checklist for Josh when he showed up to work

441
00:20:13,080 --> 00:20:16,280
Speaker 1: on You know, it's been well documented, like the improvements,

442
00:20:16,280 --> 00:20:19,880
Speaker 1: everybody's talking about it. My name keeps getting thrown in there. Ironically,

443
00:20:20,600 --> 00:20:24,760
Speaker 1: we really changed one thing. So he was putting himself mechanically.

444
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Speaker 1: He's putting himself in a position a lot in college

445
00:20:27,240 --> 00:20:29,080
Speaker 1: where he would get up on his toes and he

446
00:20:29,080 --> 00:20:32,040
Speaker 1: would bounce and his feet would come together, which means

447
00:20:32,040 --> 00:20:34,760
Speaker 1: the next thing you're gonna do is get back down,

448
00:20:34,760 --> 00:20:37,720
Speaker 1: all your cleats in the ground, and you're gonna overstride. Now,

449
00:20:37,880 --> 00:20:40,719
Speaker 1: when you overstride, it can lead to a lot of

450
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Speaker 1: things depending on what kind of how what you're throwing

451
00:20:42,760 --> 00:20:46,440
Speaker 1: motion is. With Josh when he would overstride, his body

452
00:20:46,440 --> 00:20:48,600
Speaker 1: would jerk to the left and his release point his

453
00:20:48,640 --> 00:20:51,080
Speaker 1: elbow would drop. His release for point with would would

454
00:20:51,119 --> 00:20:54,480
Speaker 1: lower on the right side, meaning it's just counterbalancing. So

455
00:20:54,520 --> 00:20:57,720
Speaker 1: he overstride. You really want to get your back hip through.

456
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Speaker 1: That should be the engine that drives everything, and when

457
00:21:01,119 --> 00:21:02,800
Speaker 1: you overstride, it's hard to do that. It's hard to

458
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Speaker 1: come all the way over that front foot. So in

459
00:21:05,080 --> 00:21:07,680
Speaker 1: it's simplest for him, he was overstriding. That was leading

460
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Speaker 1: to other issues. So instead of trying to solve the

461
00:21:10,560 --> 00:21:11,880
Speaker 1: arm and go and get him to throw the ball

462
00:21:11,920 --> 00:21:14,880
Speaker 1: higher and get him to stop leaning, I played quarterback

463
00:21:14,920 --> 00:21:16,920
Speaker 1: those things. You can put that in my head all day.

464
00:21:16,960 --> 00:21:20,760
Speaker 1: It's hard to do. But by changing the base, widening

465
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Speaker 1: his base, making it every time he goes up on

466
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Speaker 1: his toes, I want that to feel terrible. By really

467
00:21:27,040 --> 00:21:29,840
Speaker 1: kind of re engineering that. Now he has a really

468
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Speaker 1: short front stride. He gets over it every time, and literally,

469
00:21:32,200 --> 00:21:34,520
Speaker 1: and I told you this Daniel like when he misses,

470
00:21:35,400 --> 00:21:37,960
Speaker 1: just look at the overstride. It's just getting really clean.

471
00:21:38,240 --> 00:21:40,800
Speaker 1: He's very very comfortable with it. And this dude has

472
00:21:40,840 --> 00:21:44,200
Speaker 1: so much juice it's crazy. It's well documented but now

473
00:21:44,240 --> 00:21:46,359
Speaker 1: it's just he's just in complete control of it. You

474
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Speaker 1: mentioned the juice. I gotta ask you this, this is

475
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Speaker 1: my I'm playing conspiracy theorist here as somebody is a

476
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Speaker 1: weenie arm quarterback like I was, I always try to

477
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Speaker 1: cheat my drop, especially it was five, was a quick five.

478
00:21:55,960 --> 00:21:57,480
Speaker 1: I got about four yards. I just try and get

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Speaker 1: it up. And then when I watched Josh especially what

480
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Speaker 1: back and slowed it down, I was like, this dude

481
00:22:02,440 --> 00:22:03,800
Speaker 1: has so much arm and he wanted to show it

482
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Speaker 1: off a little bit. So he slow played the drop

483
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Speaker 1: a little bit in that he snaps the ball as

484
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Speaker 1: the receiver takes off. It was like count one, count two.

485
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Speaker 1: Then he began his drop, so when he got to

486
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Speaker 1: the top of his drop, he could really show it off.

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Speaker 1: Was that a plan or was that just somebody just

488
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Speaker 1: has a big armor, just improvising on the fly there. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: I mean we put the we make sure there's three

490
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Speaker 1: throws each right yep and uh and and so even

491
00:22:26,040 --> 00:22:28,600
Speaker 1: on the pro day there's there's throws and then there's

492
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Speaker 1: big boy throws and not not not the type of

493
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Speaker 1: the thrower, but like there's routes like a slant, a curl, like,

494
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Speaker 1: I'm not gonna show you how strong my arm is

495
00:22:35,680 --> 00:22:39,040
Speaker 1: on a curl. I want to do to catch it. Uh.

496
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Speaker 1: And there's not too many opportunities for a quarterback to

497
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Speaker 1: really show things off for the combine, to be honest

498
00:22:42,720 --> 00:22:45,080
Speaker 1: with you, um and so. But on the d ball,

499
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Speaker 1: if you do it the way that we did it,

500
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Speaker 1: which is, you know, just the first one out there,

501
00:22:49,160 --> 00:22:50,840
Speaker 1: pause a little bit on the second one and drive

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Speaker 1: it and then um, you know, let it loose on

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Speaker 1: the third one. Same thing on the post corner. If

504
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Speaker 1: you remember Blake Bortles a couple of years ago, really

505
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Speaker 1: really late on his last post corner, drove it on

506
00:23:01,680 --> 00:23:04,280
Speaker 1: the sideline and mac and everybody is like, that's a

507
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Speaker 1: big arm just manufactured, right. You know we've talked about

508
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Speaker 1: Everyone talks about how talented he is, like a rare

509
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Speaker 1: talent arm arm talent. Physically, he can do all the

510
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Speaker 1: things in terms of running around. Um, how hard is

511
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Speaker 1: to get someone to rein that ind to kind of

512
00:23:19,720 --> 00:23:22,920
Speaker 1: play discipline football? Because the biggest challenge all scouts will

513
00:23:22,960 --> 00:23:26,880
Speaker 1: have and evaluate him his inconsistency. How can you get

514
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Speaker 1: him to be a more disciplined player from the pocket

515
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Speaker 1: with all the talents and tools that he has well. Honestly,

516
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Speaker 1: I think the overstride thing, um, the inconsistency is on accuracy.

517
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Speaker 1: You know, there's there's two sides of that, not just

518
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Speaker 1: what Josh with anybody. There's the quarterback is he missing?

519
00:23:42,440 --> 00:23:44,080
Speaker 1: And then there's the other side of it, Bucky the

520
00:23:44,119 --> 00:23:46,960
Speaker 1: wide receiver side, and and he can't say these things.

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Speaker 1: I've watched every snap, you know. I think one of

522
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Speaker 1: the things that they had a hard time with is

523
00:23:50,640 --> 00:23:53,480
Speaker 1: they didn't create a lot of separation and um, and

524
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Speaker 1: they had a lot of different route depths, and so

525
00:23:56,400 --> 00:23:58,200
Speaker 1: you gotta wait and we got a lot of confidence

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Speaker 1: in your arm talent. You're gonna wait and see it

527
00:24:00,200 --> 00:24:03,080
Speaker 1: open and throw it. And in the NFL you can't

528
00:24:03,080 --> 00:24:05,600
Speaker 1: do that right in my opinion, that's the difference between

529
00:24:05,600 --> 00:24:07,840
Speaker 1: Cam and where Cam could be if you if you

530
00:24:07,920 --> 00:24:10,000
Speaker 1: develop more anticipation. There's a couple of guys in the

531
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Speaker 1: league that do that. They want to wait and see

532
00:24:11,240 --> 00:24:13,399
Speaker 1: it open and rip it in there, um, and that

533
00:24:13,400 --> 00:24:15,400
Speaker 1: will be the evolution for Josh. But I think he'll

534
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Speaker 1: be in a position in the NFL with the route

535
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Speaker 1: discipline that's there, the trusting the guys having an X

536
00:24:21,800 --> 00:24:25,880
Speaker 1: who always can separate on a couple of routes. Um.

537
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Speaker 1: I think that inconsistencies are gonna narrow down big time

538
00:24:30,560 --> 00:24:32,800
Speaker 1: based off of his mechanics and what he's been at,

539
00:24:32,840 --> 00:24:35,119
Speaker 1: what he's able to do. When he's really consistent with

540
00:24:35,200 --> 00:24:37,679
Speaker 1: that short front stride, he's just in complete control of it.

541
00:24:37,680 --> 00:24:40,439
Speaker 1: When he does that, it's on him now, um. And

542
00:24:40,480 --> 00:24:43,040
Speaker 1: then on the other side of it, the receivers. I

543
00:24:43,080 --> 00:24:45,359
Speaker 1: think that's he's gonna take a big jump when he

544
00:24:45,359 --> 00:24:47,840
Speaker 1: goes to the league because there's a lot of stuff

545
00:24:47,840 --> 00:24:50,320
Speaker 1: it's hard to evaluate. You know, He's like my homes

546
00:24:50,359 --> 00:24:52,800
Speaker 1: last year, it's kind of hard to evaluate. There's a

547
00:24:52,800 --> 00:24:55,119
Speaker 1: couple of things that are just unbelievable, and then you

548
00:24:55,119 --> 00:24:57,399
Speaker 1: want that to be better, so you try and research

549
00:24:57,400 --> 00:25:00,000
Speaker 1: and figure out why it was it that way. UM,

550
00:25:00,000 --> 00:25:02,119
Speaker 1: and I just proving more information everybody because I'm so

551
00:25:02,200 --> 00:25:04,359
Speaker 1: involved in this. But I really don't see it being

552
00:25:04,359 --> 00:25:06,240
Speaker 1: an issue in in the future. I think he's gonna

553
00:25:06,280 --> 00:25:09,480
Speaker 1: be a much better Prouh and Bucky we talked about

554
00:25:09,480 --> 00:25:11,879
Speaker 1: the slash with Shan. You know, he's gonna be a

555
00:25:11,960 --> 00:25:14,920
Speaker 1: much better pro because he'll have more He's so smart

556
00:25:14,960 --> 00:25:17,000
Speaker 1: to have more answers at the line of scrimmage than

557
00:25:17,040 --> 00:25:18,880
Speaker 1: he did at Clemson. I mean, I think the same

558
00:25:18,920 --> 00:25:21,000
Speaker 1: thing out of these two guys, this is the last

559
00:25:21,000 --> 00:25:23,760
Speaker 1: one from me here, JP. Let's let's go best case scenario,

560
00:25:24,119 --> 00:25:28,240
Speaker 1: Josh Allen. Best case scenario. We're looking back five years

561
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Speaker 1: from now. Where where is Josh Allen? And what what

562
00:25:31,240 --> 00:25:34,679
Speaker 1: does he look like on the NFL field? You know,

563
00:25:34,720 --> 00:25:38,200
Speaker 1: it's hard. I don't really have a camp for him. Um.

564
00:25:38,280 --> 00:25:42,240
Speaker 1: I think in the pocket, uh, you know, I think

565
00:25:42,240 --> 00:25:44,880
Speaker 1: he has some Roethlisberger the natural ability to buy time,

566
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Speaker 1: not in the exact same manner because Ben. I mean

567
00:25:47,520 --> 00:25:49,200
Speaker 1: I played against you know, I was on the other

568
00:25:49,200 --> 00:25:51,800
Speaker 1: sideline four years versus Ben, and every time it was

569
00:25:51,880 --> 00:25:54,480
Speaker 1: third down, it was like, Oh, here we go again.

570
00:25:54,560 --> 00:25:57,200
Speaker 1: I mean, he's gonna he's gonna buy it extra time.

571
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Speaker 1: We're gonna get two dudes on him, and then he's

572
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Speaker 1: you know what I mean, he's gonna he's gonna get

573
00:26:00,600 --> 00:26:03,720
Speaker 1: the ball out. Josh has a lot of that. But

574
00:26:03,840 --> 00:26:06,320
Speaker 1: Josh is off faster, and he has the ability to

575
00:26:06,320 --> 00:26:09,160
Speaker 1: get outside the pocket and create, and so I think

576
00:26:09,160 --> 00:26:11,520
Speaker 1: he's gonna be a guy where he can weather the storm.

577
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Speaker 1: My big thing with these guys is you've got to

578
00:26:13,440 --> 00:26:17,479
Speaker 1: be able to handle the inevitability of success and adversity.

579
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Speaker 1: And Josh went through a lot of adversity, you know,

580
00:26:19,200 --> 00:26:21,399
Speaker 1: when that whole thing going through high school and Juco.

581
00:26:21,760 --> 00:26:23,720
Speaker 1: He told his mom in high school, don't worry MoMA

582
00:26:23,800 --> 00:26:25,159
Speaker 1: on signy day, don't worry my mom and be a

583
00:26:25,160 --> 00:26:28,520
Speaker 1: first round pick. Promise you it's crazy. So he's been

584
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Speaker 1: through adverse he has handled that really well. And he's

585
00:26:30,400 --> 00:26:32,800
Speaker 1: handled the success really well too. You know. He he

586
00:26:32,880 --> 00:26:35,240
Speaker 1: doesn't care about any the media anything like. He's just

587
00:26:35,240 --> 00:26:36,800
Speaker 1: locked in and focus right now. He's ready for this.

588
00:26:37,280 --> 00:26:38,720
Speaker 1: So I think in five years you're gonna see a

589
00:26:38,800 --> 00:26:41,400
Speaker 1: very mature player who can create time and space, which

590
00:26:41,440 --> 00:26:43,400
Speaker 1: is that I think that the future of the quarterback

591
00:26:43,440 --> 00:26:46,160
Speaker 1: position your ability to do that. Um, and you're gonna

592
00:26:46,160 --> 00:26:49,600
Speaker 1: see a guy who's who's like farvish in terms of

593
00:26:49,640 --> 00:26:51,840
Speaker 1: like how much is his teammates love him. They think

594
00:26:51,840 --> 00:26:55,400
Speaker 1: he's hilarious. Every day is fun like my brother. He's

595
00:26:55,400 --> 00:26:57,320
Speaker 1: gonna be the prank guy. I can already call it now.

596
00:26:57,720 --> 00:26:59,440
Speaker 1: And he's just gonna be that guy that the equipment

597
00:26:59,440 --> 00:27:04,240
Speaker 1: manager loves. The fans love, teammates love, and those guys

598
00:27:04,280 --> 00:27:06,960
Speaker 1: usually win a ton of games. I love it. Hey,

599
00:27:07,119 --> 00:27:08,919
Speaker 1: I know you're busy, man. Thank you so much for

600
00:27:08,960 --> 00:27:11,280
Speaker 1: taking some time. Let's let's catch up again here before

601
00:27:11,280 --> 00:27:15,280
Speaker 1: we get to the draft. My pleasure. Thanks guys, well buck,

602
00:27:15,320 --> 00:27:17,199
Speaker 1: I mean when you when you talk about somebody like

603
00:27:17,280 --> 00:27:19,600
Speaker 1: Jordan Palmer, he knows what he's talking about and to

604
00:27:19,680 --> 00:27:21,720
Speaker 1: get a chance to just get his inside just how

605
00:27:21,760 --> 00:27:24,920
Speaker 1: special he thinks Josh Allen could become. Feels like he's

606
00:27:25,080 --> 00:27:27,639
Speaker 1: diagnosed the problem and being able to work through it

607
00:27:27,680 --> 00:27:30,360
Speaker 1: and thinks that the better days are definitely ahead. He does.

608
00:27:30,400 --> 00:27:32,720
Speaker 1: He's very, very optimistic on what Josh Allen could be

609
00:27:32,720 --> 00:27:34,280
Speaker 1: at the next level. He talked about some of the

610
00:27:34,320 --> 00:27:36,520
Speaker 1: things that they're working on, what the emphasis has been

611
00:27:36,560 --> 00:27:38,760
Speaker 1: since he's gotten with him, and we have seen those

612
00:27:38,760 --> 00:27:41,600
Speaker 1: improvements as he's going throughout the process. And so for

613
00:27:41,720 --> 00:27:44,040
Speaker 1: Josh Allen to think about where he was at the

614
00:27:44,119 --> 00:27:46,560
Speaker 1: end of the season to where he has been right now,

615
00:27:46,640 --> 00:27:48,760
Speaker 1: where we said doing the drive process, you have to

616
00:27:48,760 --> 00:27:51,280
Speaker 1: be encouraged. I think teams are excited about what he

617
00:27:51,320 --> 00:27:53,639
Speaker 1: could be down the line based on the progress that

618
00:27:53,680 --> 00:27:55,600
Speaker 1: he's already made to this point. All Right, he's part

619
00:27:55,600 --> 00:27:57,840
Speaker 1: of that team that's helping Josh Allen get ready for

620
00:27:57,840 --> 00:28:00,840
Speaker 1: the next level. Another member of that team, Ryan Flaherty,

621
00:28:00,840 --> 00:28:04,120
Speaker 1: who helped train Josh Allen for all the physical testing

622
00:28:04,160 --> 00:28:06,639
Speaker 1: and has been around a lot and I mean a

623
00:28:06,720 --> 00:28:10,080
Speaker 1: lot of great prospects at the position over the last decade.

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Speaker 1: This is our chat with Ryan Flaherty. All Right, Buck,

625
00:28:13,440 --> 00:28:15,760
Speaker 1: I'm excited for our next guest here. We have a

626
00:28:15,800 --> 00:28:17,800
Speaker 1: big time dude, and I'm gonna get to the credentials

627
00:28:17,840 --> 00:28:20,920
Speaker 1: here in a second, because maybe the most impressive credentials

628
00:28:20,960 --> 00:28:22,879
Speaker 1: we look on the whole of anybody we've ever had

629
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Speaker 1: on show. Ryan Flairty has been on with us before.

630
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Speaker 1: Senior Director Performance at Nike. Ryan, first of all, thanks

631
00:28:28,000 --> 00:28:29,520
Speaker 1: for thanks for joining, Thanks for having me. I really

632
00:28:29,520 --> 00:28:31,119
Speaker 1: appreciate being here. All Right, I'm gonna run through this

633
00:28:31,160 --> 00:28:35,119
Speaker 1: list because it's it's in president. Ryan's been on before

634
00:28:35,200 --> 00:28:38,080
Speaker 1: helped us when we're talking about quarterbacks because he's trained

635
00:28:38,120 --> 00:28:39,320
Speaker 1: a lot of these guys, and I say a lot

636
00:28:39,360 --> 00:28:42,120
Speaker 1: of these guys. Here's the numbers, Uh, just just eighteen

637
00:28:42,160 --> 00:28:44,320
Speaker 1: of the thirty two starting quarterbacks in the NFL. Ryan's

638
00:28:44,560 --> 00:28:46,560
Speaker 1: got his hands on and helped train those guys. You

639
00:28:46,560 --> 00:28:49,680
Speaker 1: look at the last eight drafts, Buck top two quarterbacks

640
00:28:49,960 --> 00:28:52,520
Speaker 1: each draft he's had him, so he has worked with

641
00:28:52,560 --> 00:28:55,520
Speaker 1: all the best players in the nation, especially at this

642
00:28:55,600 --> 00:28:58,440
Speaker 1: quarterback position. We're gonna pick his brain a little bit here. Ryan.

643
00:28:58,440 --> 00:28:59,720
Speaker 1: First of all, I want to know, just curious how

644
00:28:59,720 --> 00:29:02,240
Speaker 1: you got into this this field. Yeah, and I just

645
00:29:02,280 --> 00:29:05,160
Speaker 1: fell into it actually. UM. I kind of in between

646
00:29:05,200 --> 00:29:07,200
Speaker 1: going back to school and trying to figure out what

647
00:29:07,200 --> 00:29:08,960
Speaker 1: I want to do after my playing career ended. I

648
00:29:09,120 --> 00:29:11,640
Speaker 1: u a trainer that I was working with when I

649
00:29:11,640 --> 00:29:13,920
Speaker 1: was young, UM, a track and field coach, and said, hey,

650
00:29:13,920 --> 00:29:15,280
Speaker 1: you want to come, you know, work with me and

651
00:29:15,280 --> 00:29:17,000
Speaker 1: train some guys. So I started doing that a little bit,

652
00:29:17,040 --> 00:29:18,560
Speaker 1: just before I was gonna go back to either business

653
00:29:18,560 --> 00:29:21,480
Speaker 1: school or UM, you know, get a real job kind

654
00:29:21,480 --> 00:29:23,920
Speaker 1: of a thing. UH. And one thing led to another

655
00:29:23,960 --> 00:29:26,920
Speaker 1: heat and I ended up working with UH somehow, getting

656
00:29:26,960 --> 00:29:29,960
Speaker 1: hired on at USA Track and Field, and UM started

657
00:29:29,960 --> 00:29:32,040
Speaker 1: doing research for them, sports science for them while I

658
00:29:32,080 --> 00:29:35,800
Speaker 1: was getting my masters in. UM started learning about speed

659
00:29:35,840 --> 00:29:38,600
Speaker 1: and how math and you know science kind of plays

660
00:29:38,600 --> 00:29:40,920
Speaker 1: a role into performance, and I just fell in love

661
00:29:40,960 --> 00:29:42,400
Speaker 1: with it. And so one thing led to another. I

662
00:29:42,440 --> 00:29:45,560
Speaker 1: started working with you know, high school kids and college guys,

663
00:29:45,600 --> 00:29:48,680
Speaker 1: and then um, yeah, it's funny because the NFL is

664
00:29:48,720 --> 00:29:51,719
Speaker 1: a very word of mouth, you know place, and so

665
00:29:52,080 --> 00:29:54,240
Speaker 1: I think quickly, you know, guys start hearing or seeing

666
00:29:54,280 --> 00:29:55,880
Speaker 1: guys perform really well, and they're like, oh, well, where

667
00:29:55,880 --> 00:29:58,200
Speaker 1: are you at? So uh, they start they follow each other,

668
00:29:58,240 --> 00:30:00,920
Speaker 1: and yeah, here we are years later. So yeah, have

669
00:30:00,920 --> 00:30:04,040
Speaker 1: a kid like Josh Allen, who was a remarkable athlete.

670
00:30:04,320 --> 00:30:06,360
Speaker 1: We rave about him in the kind of community about

671
00:30:06,360 --> 00:30:09,880
Speaker 1: his athleticism, the unbelievable combination of talent stead He asked,

672
00:30:10,200 --> 00:30:11,920
Speaker 1: what did you see from him when he first walked

673
00:30:11,920 --> 00:30:14,920
Speaker 1: in your doors. I've never seen an arm like this

674
00:30:14,960 --> 00:30:18,000
Speaker 1: in my life. Like I've been around a lot of quarterbacks.

675
00:30:18,080 --> 00:30:21,320
Speaker 1: His arm is beyond elite. It will be what every

676
00:30:21,400 --> 00:30:24,200
Speaker 1: arm is measured against. Uh. At his prote he'll probably

677
00:30:24,200 --> 00:30:26,239
Speaker 1: throw the ball niney yards, no joke. The other day

678
00:30:26,280 --> 00:30:28,040
Speaker 1: we're on the com I'm not kidding, He'll throw it

679
00:30:28,160 --> 00:30:30,960
Speaker 1: ninety yards. Just wait, I promise you, I'll bet a

680
00:30:31,000 --> 00:30:33,760
Speaker 1: car on it. He would. He will throw the ball

681
00:30:33,800 --> 00:30:36,160
Speaker 1: in ninety yards. His his physical skills, the way his

682
00:30:36,440 --> 00:30:39,240
Speaker 1: the way his body kind of releases, you know, energy

683
00:30:39,240 --> 00:30:41,480
Speaker 1: into the ball unlike I have anything I've ever seen

684
00:30:41,480 --> 00:30:44,160
Speaker 1: in my life. Um, and that's against all of the

685
00:30:44,200 --> 00:30:46,520
Speaker 1: top arms, even JaMarcus. People always talk about Marcus's arm

686
00:30:46,560 --> 00:30:48,479
Speaker 1: and what he did as Prody. This arm, it's like

687
00:30:48,680 --> 00:30:50,360
Speaker 1: people just stand there and watch his deep ball like

688
00:30:50,640 --> 00:30:52,960
Speaker 1: that's that can't be real. And I go, you're around

689
00:30:53,000 --> 00:30:54,920
Speaker 1: ja Marcus. Were you around Jamorrow? No? No, but I've

690
00:30:54,920 --> 00:30:57,840
Speaker 1: seen him throw him yeah, yeah, So I've seen his arm,

691
00:30:57,840 --> 00:30:59,680
Speaker 1: and you know, it's it's it's an amazing arm. I

692
00:30:59,720 --> 00:31:01,880
Speaker 1: was around a guy like Logan Thomas Beck, who you

693
00:31:01,880 --> 00:31:03,600
Speaker 1: know is now aside end in the league, but Logan

694
00:31:03,640 --> 00:31:07,440
Speaker 1: had an incredible arm. Nobody touches Josh Allen's arm, so

695
00:31:07,480 --> 00:31:10,600
Speaker 1: physically it's it's like it's second to none. I think

696
00:31:10,680 --> 00:31:12,880
Speaker 1: that's gonna make a lot of people around the league

697
00:31:12,880 --> 00:31:14,920
Speaker 1: fall in love with him. But the best part is

698
00:31:14,920 --> 00:31:18,080
Speaker 1: he's he's an awesome kid. Like you know, I I

699
00:31:18,280 --> 00:31:19,600
Speaker 1: you know, like you said earlier, I've had the top

700
00:31:19,640 --> 00:31:21,520
Speaker 1: two quarterbacks in the draft the past few years, and

701
00:31:21,760 --> 00:31:23,600
Speaker 1: you can kind of see, you know, everybody every year

702
00:31:24,120 --> 00:31:25,880
Speaker 1: they're the they're the they're the Alpha, they're the big

703
00:31:25,920 --> 00:31:27,520
Speaker 1: you know, the big man of campus. They're coming into

704
00:31:27,520 --> 00:31:29,520
Speaker 1: this program, They're always like there's always this point of

705
00:31:29,520 --> 00:31:31,560
Speaker 1: contention when I'm talking to them initially before they come

706
00:31:31,560 --> 00:31:33,440
Speaker 1: to train with me, like, wait, so you're gonna have

707
00:31:33,480 --> 00:31:36,320
Speaker 1: that guy too. With these two kids, it was like, oh, awesome,

708
00:31:36,360 --> 00:31:38,880
Speaker 1: I can't wait to work with him. They love being

709
00:31:38,880 --> 00:31:40,840
Speaker 1: around each other. They push each other every single day.

710
00:31:41,160 --> 00:31:44,520
Speaker 1: There's that competitive nature, but like it's it's it's a respectful,

711
00:31:44,720 --> 00:31:47,640
Speaker 1: you know, competition where they they understand that one team

712
00:31:47,680 --> 00:31:48,920
Speaker 1: is gonna fall in love with each of them and

713
00:31:48,920 --> 00:31:52,040
Speaker 1: they're just there to push each other. Um. Which I

714
00:31:51,520 --> 00:31:54,520
Speaker 1: I love that about these guys. Um. So Josh is

715
00:31:54,560 --> 00:31:57,560
Speaker 1: physically gonna blow you away. Um, but also mentally he's

716
00:31:57,600 --> 00:32:00,080
Speaker 1: really smart and I think, you know, the often he

717
00:32:00,120 --> 00:32:01,400
Speaker 1: comes from is very similar with what the kid I

718
00:32:01,440 --> 00:32:03,000
Speaker 1: had a couple years of, Carson Wentz. They came from

719
00:32:03,000 --> 00:32:05,480
Speaker 1: the same same head coach, same system. Uh, he's gonna

720
00:32:05,480 --> 00:32:06,840
Speaker 1: be further along on the board, and I think people

721
00:32:06,840 --> 00:32:09,120
Speaker 1: are realized, um, And I think to you know, look,

722
00:32:09,480 --> 00:32:11,280
Speaker 1: not to knock anything Josh has been through in his

723
00:32:11,360 --> 00:32:13,120
Speaker 1: in his career, but a lot of these other kids

724
00:32:13,120 --> 00:32:14,760
Speaker 1: had a lot more talent around him at the college level.

725
00:32:14,760 --> 00:32:16,400
Speaker 1: And I'm not saying that to be too mean to

726
00:32:16,560 --> 00:32:17,960
Speaker 1: to the to the teams that he comes from. But

727
00:32:18,040 --> 00:32:20,320
Speaker 1: I've I watched three games of his this year where

728
00:32:20,320 --> 00:32:22,720
Speaker 1: balls are falling off guy's face masks and and he

729
00:32:22,800 --> 00:32:24,480
Speaker 1: was staring it so hard they could not catch the ball.

730
00:32:24,520 --> 00:32:26,200
Speaker 1: I've I've caught for him, and I'm like, now, I'm good,

731
00:32:26,640 --> 00:32:28,760
Speaker 1: Like I'm retired. I don't need this crap anymore in

732
00:32:28,760 --> 00:32:31,320
Speaker 1: my hands. I need to save my hands. But it's

733
00:32:31,360 --> 00:32:33,880
Speaker 1: just it's it's unlike anything I've ever seen Physically, I'm

734
00:32:33,880 --> 00:32:36,440
Speaker 1: excited for him. So Cam, you you've been around Cam,

735
00:32:36,640 --> 00:32:38,920
Speaker 1: how would how would Josh even just as an as

736
00:32:38,960 --> 00:32:41,160
Speaker 1: maybe as an athlete. We talked about the arm strength

737
00:32:41,320 --> 00:32:43,480
Speaker 1: Josh runs around makes him place to look. Just three

738
00:32:43,480 --> 00:32:46,680
Speaker 1: guys look at it, Carson Wentz, Cam Newton and then

739
00:32:46,840 --> 00:32:49,000
Speaker 1: Josh Allen. Just if you're kind of comparing those three

740
00:32:49,040 --> 00:32:52,600
Speaker 1: guys athletics, great comparison. Actually, yeah, very similar. So I

741
00:32:52,640 --> 00:32:56,200
Speaker 1: think I think Josh is a little faster than Carson

742
00:32:56,480 --> 00:32:59,080
Speaker 1: um not probably probably similar to to to Cam. I

743
00:32:59,080 --> 00:33:01,960
Speaker 1: think they're gonna be very similar measurable measurables. Josh is

744
00:33:02,040 --> 00:33:04,360
Speaker 1: very explosive, jumped through the roof. He'll be in the

745
00:33:04,400 --> 00:33:07,600
Speaker 1: mid thirties first vert um his forties should be around

746
00:33:07,680 --> 00:33:09,640
Speaker 1: four six range, which I think will be really good

747
00:33:09,640 --> 00:33:13,360
Speaker 1: for him. Um. So, I think that's a great comparison.

748
00:33:13,400 --> 00:33:15,200
Speaker 1: I think those guys are very very similar. I think

749
00:33:15,640 --> 00:33:17,840
Speaker 1: Josh is a little bigger than Carson. He's you know,

750
00:33:17,880 --> 00:33:21,480
Speaker 1: he's a solid to forty five um and he's both

751
00:33:21,520 --> 00:33:23,320
Speaker 1: these kids are so young that their bodies still have

752
00:33:23,440 --> 00:33:25,480
Speaker 1: so much more development to go. You know. Carson was

753
00:33:25,520 --> 00:33:28,200
Speaker 1: twenty four, right, so I think his you know, just

754
00:33:28,240 --> 00:33:30,240
Speaker 1: from a hormone level, all of that stuff, just being

755
00:33:30,280 --> 00:33:32,320
Speaker 1: surety level, his body was a little further along, whereas

756
00:33:32,360 --> 00:33:34,600
Speaker 1: I think Josh and Sam, they they in the eight

757
00:33:34,640 --> 00:33:36,240
Speaker 1: weeks I've had him have developed so much to the

758
00:33:36,240 --> 00:33:38,000
Speaker 1: point where I'm like, man, in a year from now,

759
00:33:38,800 --> 00:33:40,640
Speaker 1: I'm I'm gonna be you know, I'm gonna love to

760
00:33:40,680 --> 00:33:42,080
Speaker 1: see where these kids are at that point. So they

761
00:33:42,080 --> 00:33:43,840
Speaker 1: still have a long way to go, and they're both

762
00:33:43,960 --> 00:33:46,240
Speaker 1: you know, physically going to be at the top in

763
00:33:46,440 --> 00:33:48,280
Speaker 1: the league when they would get in there. Thank you

764
00:33:48,320 --> 00:33:50,440
Speaker 1: so much, man, I appreciate my pleasure man. Thank you, guys,

765
00:33:50,520 --> 00:33:53,640
Speaker 1: appreciate it. So there you go, Ryan Flairty, I don't

766
00:33:53,640 --> 00:33:56,320
Speaker 1: know many people know just how many quarterbacks he had

767
00:33:56,360 --> 00:33:58,080
Speaker 1: been around. That was fascinating to me. These guys spent

768
00:33:58,080 --> 00:34:00,560
Speaker 1: around all the top quarterbacks, the top two quarterbacks for

769
00:34:00,600 --> 00:34:03,120
Speaker 1: that period of time. It's a ridiculous amount of guys. Good.

770
00:34:03,240 --> 00:34:05,320
Speaker 1: Mr Flaherty has been around. Yeah, he's been around, and

771
00:34:05,360 --> 00:34:07,080
Speaker 1: he's seeing how the great ones have done. And so

772
00:34:07,280 --> 00:34:10,120
Speaker 1: when he's able to make these comparisons and contrast where

773
00:34:10,239 --> 00:34:12,000
Speaker 1: Josh Allen is to where some of the great ones

774
00:34:12,040 --> 00:34:14,080
Speaker 1: word wing the time and where they are today, that's

775
00:34:14,080 --> 00:34:16,840
Speaker 1: outstanding inside and I think he touched on it. Like

776
00:34:16,920 --> 00:34:18,800
Speaker 1: Josh Allen has a lot of tools, He has a

777
00:34:18,880 --> 00:34:21,840
Speaker 1: lot of things that are every intriguing to scouts and teams.

778
00:34:22,040 --> 00:34:23,279
Speaker 1: That is why he's going to be one of the

779
00:34:23,320 --> 00:34:26,759
Speaker 1: top picks, no question. Some some interesting thoughts there from Ryan.

780
00:34:27,360 --> 00:34:28,839
Speaker 1: Let's go, let's get to the man of the hour.

781
00:34:28,880 --> 00:34:30,840
Speaker 1: Here we're gonna do with Josh Allen three sixty the

782
00:34:30,840 --> 00:34:34,120
Speaker 1: best person to talk to Josh Allen. Here's our chat

783
00:34:34,480 --> 00:34:38,200
Speaker 1: with Josh Allen. Here with waming quarterback Josh Allen one

784
00:34:38,200 --> 00:34:40,760
Speaker 1: of the most intriguing quarterbacks the entire draft class. Gonna

785
00:34:40,760 --> 00:34:43,560
Speaker 1: hear a lot of conversation about this dude as we

786
00:34:43,680 --> 00:34:46,839
Speaker 1: march forward. First question for me, Josh, is just all

787
00:34:46,880 --> 00:34:49,720
Speaker 1: the noise that's been out there from you before the season,

788
00:34:49,960 --> 00:34:52,480
Speaker 1: during the season, and now it picks up again. How

789
00:34:52,480 --> 00:34:54,520
Speaker 1: are you able to block all that stuff out? You know,

790
00:34:54,560 --> 00:34:56,479
Speaker 1: I'm playing football is what I love to do, and

791
00:34:56,880 --> 00:34:59,040
Speaker 1: when I'm on the field, and when I'm you know,

792
00:34:59,120 --> 00:35:01,080
Speaker 1: doing what I love to do, none of that really matters.

793
00:35:01,080 --> 00:35:02,920
Speaker 1: And I understand that. I know a lot of people

794
00:35:02,920 --> 00:35:05,880
Speaker 1: have many mixed emotions about me, and they have a

795
00:35:05,880 --> 00:35:09,160
Speaker 1: lot to say, But you know what, I can care less.

796
00:35:09,160 --> 00:35:10,239
Speaker 1: To be honest, you know, I'm gonna go out and

797
00:35:10,239 --> 00:35:12,240
Speaker 1: I'm gonna do my thing and I'm play uh football.

798
00:35:12,280 --> 00:35:14,279
Speaker 1: How I know how to play well? How you know

799
00:35:14,280 --> 00:35:17,239
Speaker 1: how to play football is really outstanding in terms of

800
00:35:17,320 --> 00:35:19,680
Speaker 1: your skill set, the tools that you bring to the table.

801
00:35:19,840 --> 00:35:22,200
Speaker 1: I was at your bowl game, had opportunity to watch

802
00:35:22,200 --> 00:35:24,520
Speaker 1: you play. Came out like a house on fire. You

803
00:35:24,560 --> 00:35:27,200
Speaker 1: showed everything that people want to see. So when you

804
00:35:27,239 --> 00:35:30,320
Speaker 1: do the self analysis on what you bring to the table,

805
00:35:30,400 --> 00:35:32,400
Speaker 1: what does Josh Allen bring to the table at the quarterback.

806
00:35:32,520 --> 00:35:35,399
Speaker 1: You know, you see the competitive competitiveness that I bring

807
00:35:35,440 --> 00:35:37,480
Speaker 1: to the game and that I'd like to pride myself

808
00:35:37,520 --> 00:35:39,399
Speaker 1: over that. I think if you go and ask any

809
00:35:39,440 --> 00:35:41,640
Speaker 1: of my teammates what, you know, the thing that sticks

810
00:35:41,640 --> 00:35:44,440
Speaker 1: out about me is gonna be my competitive nature. And

811
00:35:44,480 --> 00:35:46,640
Speaker 1: you know that's what I try to preach the team. Um.

812
00:35:46,680 --> 00:35:49,560
Speaker 1: You see the arm strength and mobility, um, the ability

813
00:35:49,600 --> 00:35:51,080
Speaker 1: to throw on the run and stuff like that. I

814
00:35:51,160 --> 00:35:53,959
Speaker 1: understand that there's some flaws in my game and there's

815
00:35:54,000 --> 00:35:55,480
Speaker 1: some things that gott to fix, and I'm working on

816
00:35:55,520 --> 00:35:57,359
Speaker 1: to fix them. But you know that's gonna take time.

817
00:35:57,400 --> 00:35:59,680
Speaker 1: And you know, I definitely don't think I'm the perfect prospect,

818
00:35:59,800 --> 00:36:02,520
Speaker 1: but I definitely think that paired with the right group

819
00:36:02,560 --> 00:36:05,360
Speaker 1: of coaches and um, you know, training wise, throughout this

820
00:36:05,360 --> 00:36:07,279
Speaker 1: whole process, you know things are gonna go really well

821
00:36:07,280 --> 00:36:09,680
Speaker 1: for me. I want to know what Sunday and Monday

822
00:36:09,719 --> 00:36:12,120
Speaker 1: were like for you this year, because I saw you

823
00:36:12,160 --> 00:36:15,040
Speaker 1: take some monster shots and just kept keep coming back,

824
00:36:15,120 --> 00:36:17,279
Speaker 1: keep coming back, keep coming back, And it looks a

825
00:36:17,280 --> 00:36:18,920
Speaker 1: lot of that's in the pocket. Then some of it

826
00:36:19,000 --> 00:36:20,799
Speaker 1: is your own. When you get out and run and

827
00:36:20,800 --> 00:36:23,560
Speaker 1: finishing runs like you're thinking marrying butts or something that

828
00:36:23,560 --> 00:36:29,239
Speaker 1: you like that old school but very NOEA. It was

829
00:36:29,239 --> 00:36:31,040
Speaker 1: a good running back for the Chargers back in the day. No,

830
00:36:31,239 --> 00:36:34,319
Speaker 1: how did your body feel after games this year? Most

831
00:36:34,360 --> 00:36:36,920
Speaker 1: games were pretty good. There was a few games a

832
00:36:36,920 --> 00:36:39,640
Speaker 1: few games though that Monday, decided to, uh, you know,

833
00:36:39,719 --> 00:36:41,640
Speaker 1: talk to coach and he helped me out of practice.

834
00:36:41,719 --> 00:36:44,399
Speaker 1: But you know that that's just part of the game.

835
00:36:44,480 --> 00:36:46,520
Speaker 1: You know, this game is beautifully violent, and I keep

836
00:36:46,520 --> 00:36:49,279
Speaker 1: telling that to people in UM. You know, with all

837
00:36:49,280 --> 00:36:52,560
Speaker 1: the discussions going on about player safety and concussions and

838
00:36:52,560 --> 00:36:54,680
Speaker 1: stuff like that. You know, you decided to make the

839
00:36:54,760 --> 00:36:56,680
Speaker 1: choice to play this game for the reason that you do.

840
00:36:56,719 --> 00:36:58,400
Speaker 1: And I love this game. You know, I'm gonna continue

841
00:36:58,400 --> 00:37:00,799
Speaker 1: to play this game. And um, you know, getting hits

842
00:37:00,800 --> 00:37:02,319
Speaker 1: part of the game. So that's why I love it.

843
00:37:02,680 --> 00:37:06,319
Speaker 1: You know, you really made a courageous choice. Like you

844
00:37:06,320 --> 00:37:08,200
Speaker 1: were injured at the last part of the season, you

845
00:37:08,280 --> 00:37:11,040
Speaker 1: elected to come back and participate in the bowl game.

846
00:37:11,360 --> 00:37:13,640
Speaker 1: What led you to play in their bowl game? You know,

847
00:37:13,719 --> 00:37:16,080
Speaker 1: I felt that I owed that to my teammates. I

848
00:37:16,080 --> 00:37:18,600
Speaker 1: felt that I owed that to my coaching staff. Um.

849
00:37:18,640 --> 00:37:20,520
Speaker 1: Obviously they were the only team to offer me out

850
00:37:20,520 --> 00:37:23,120
Speaker 1: of junior college, and it's something that I wanted to

851
00:37:23,120 --> 00:37:25,399
Speaker 1: do for them, was you know, finish my last game

852
00:37:25,400 --> 00:37:27,360
Speaker 1: on a high note and coming back and playing with

853
00:37:27,400 --> 00:37:30,360
Speaker 1: my brothers for one more game. Um, you know, it

854
00:37:30,440 --> 00:37:34,759
Speaker 1: went spectacularly. Was you know, a great team win. You

855
00:37:34,800 --> 00:37:37,080
Speaker 1: know it was. It was something fun to play in.

856
00:37:37,080 --> 00:37:40,400
Speaker 1: And I said this after the game in the interview

857
00:37:40,440 --> 00:37:42,879
Speaker 1: that I'm not myself when I'm not playing football, So

858
00:37:43,080 --> 00:37:44,879
Speaker 1: I needed to be back on the field because that's

859
00:37:44,960 --> 00:37:47,280
Speaker 1: what I love to do. How is this offense preparing

860
00:37:47,320 --> 00:37:49,640
Speaker 1: you for the next level? You know, it's it's very similar.

861
00:37:49,719 --> 00:37:52,080
Speaker 1: I think the termprenology is a little different the things

862
00:37:52,120 --> 00:37:55,600
Speaker 1: that we do, the concepts that we run, um killing plays,

863
00:37:56,000 --> 00:37:58,920
Speaker 1: run checked passes and stuff like that, or run pass checks.

864
00:37:59,360 --> 00:38:02,399
Speaker 1: You know, it's it's something that's going to translate very well.

865
00:38:02,440 --> 00:38:04,879
Speaker 1: I've talked to Carson Wentz and he ran the same

866
00:38:04,920 --> 00:38:07,840
Speaker 1: offense that we run Wyoming, and he said the transition

867
00:38:07,880 --> 00:38:09,920
Speaker 1: that he had was fantastic. You know, it's just a

868
00:38:09,960 --> 00:38:12,680
Speaker 1: bit of a change in terminology and you know there's

869
00:38:12,680 --> 00:38:15,200
Speaker 1: a lot more wording in the NFL, but um, you know,

870
00:38:15,280 --> 00:38:17,520
Speaker 1: he he handled all that stuff. You know, I'm not

871
00:38:17,560 --> 00:38:20,399
Speaker 1: saying with ease, but probably better than most other people.

872
00:38:20,480 --> 00:38:22,840
Speaker 1: Probably be the MVP if you didn't get hurt this year.

873
00:38:23,440 --> 00:38:26,560
Speaker 1: So I want to go back because I think it's fascinating.

874
00:38:26,600 --> 00:38:29,480
Speaker 1: You talked about only one offer coming out of JUCO,

875
00:38:29,840 --> 00:38:33,520
Speaker 1: talking about the process of ending up at Whoming like

876
00:38:34,320 --> 00:38:35,600
Speaker 1: just kind of lead us to how you got to

877
00:38:35,680 --> 00:38:37,520
Speaker 1: this point. Yeah, So high school, I was in a

878
00:38:37,640 --> 00:38:40,520
Speaker 1: small school. You know, it's probably five to six hundred

879
00:38:40,600 --> 00:38:42,440
Speaker 1: kids in the whole school. Um, just not a lot

880
00:38:42,480 --> 00:38:44,920
Speaker 1: of visibility for college coaches to get out then recruit

881
00:38:44,960 --> 00:38:47,320
Speaker 1: our area. I was kind of a late bloomer, probably

882
00:38:47,360 --> 00:38:50,840
Speaker 1: six five pounds coming out of high school as a senior,

883
00:38:50,920 --> 00:38:52,920
Speaker 1: so you know, I put in put on a good

884
00:38:52,920 --> 00:38:54,719
Speaker 1: twenty pounds and probably grew about an inch and a

885
00:38:54,760 --> 00:38:57,840
Speaker 1: half going into my first semester at JUCO, which was

886
00:38:57,920 --> 00:39:01,200
Speaker 1: which was pretty big. You know. Um, then obviously it

887
00:39:01,200 --> 00:39:03,080
Speaker 1: didn't start the first three or four games at my

888
00:39:03,160 --> 00:39:05,640
Speaker 1: junior college, and you know, at sometimes it was just

889
00:39:05,680 --> 00:39:07,680
Speaker 1: like I don't know what's going on. I don't understand

890
00:39:07,680 --> 00:39:10,280
Speaker 1: why I'm not playing. You know, I stuck to the process.

891
00:39:10,360 --> 00:39:12,560
Speaker 1: I I trusted you know what my family was telling me,

892
00:39:12,640 --> 00:39:15,319
Speaker 1: what my coaches were saying. UM, very patient the whole

893
00:39:15,360 --> 00:39:17,960
Speaker 1: process and got my chance and never looked back. And

894
00:39:18,120 --> 00:39:19,840
Speaker 1: there was a few teams coming out and talking to

895
00:39:19,880 --> 00:39:22,520
Speaker 1: me and seeing me, but nothing too serious. And why

896
00:39:22,560 --> 00:39:23,960
Speaker 1: I'm in calling and said we're gonna fly you out

897
00:39:23,960 --> 00:39:25,920
Speaker 1: and off you and you know it was done. Deal

898
00:39:26,000 --> 00:39:28,359
Speaker 1: in two weeks. I'm gonna I'm gonna test your memory

899
00:39:28,360 --> 00:39:30,239
Speaker 1: a little bit. So I called his game this year

900
00:39:30,320 --> 00:39:32,719
Speaker 1: against Texas State. I went down there and we we ch

901
00:39:32,719 --> 00:39:34,160
Speaker 1: had a little bit before the game down there on

902
00:39:34,160 --> 00:39:36,479
Speaker 1: the field, and then I gave you just a couple

903
00:39:36,480 --> 00:39:38,480
Speaker 1: of things just from watching tape that that I saw.

904
00:39:38,520 --> 00:39:40,040
Speaker 1: Just if you can remember one thing, you remember one

905
00:39:40,040 --> 00:39:41,440
Speaker 1: thing that I told you on the field before they

906
00:39:41,520 --> 00:39:47,040
Speaker 1: finishing play finishing runs finishes, run fix. So I went

907
00:39:47,040 --> 00:39:48,480
Speaker 1: and saw him after the game. I was like, hey, man,

908
00:39:48,560 --> 00:39:49,960
Speaker 1: nice job out there. You go. You see my run

909
00:39:49,960 --> 00:39:54,279
Speaker 1: fix QB coach. Look, he doesn't need a QUB coach.

910
00:39:54,320 --> 00:39:56,239
Speaker 1: I just did a little little little thing and he

911
00:39:56,360 --> 00:39:58,240
Speaker 1: he cleaned it up. So to their point, it's funny

912
00:39:58,280 --> 00:40:00,320
Speaker 1: because I went out, I was at your game early

913
00:40:00,480 --> 00:40:02,919
Speaker 1: at the bowl game, and so I have never seen

914
00:40:02,960 --> 00:40:06,640
Speaker 1: a quarterback put on an exhibition in pre game, you

915
00:40:06,680 --> 00:40:09,880
Speaker 1: guys were like at the fifty yard line throwing god balls.

916
00:40:10,000 --> 00:40:13,359
Speaker 1: We called it scouting crack to finish it all. That's

917
00:40:13,360 --> 00:40:17,399
Speaker 1: how you guys, you always kind of kind of display

918
00:40:17,600 --> 00:40:20,719
Speaker 1: that's that's that's a warming deal. It was unbelievable to

919
00:40:20,760 --> 00:40:23,560
Speaker 1: watch you drop the ball in the bucket fifty yards

920
00:40:23,560 --> 00:40:26,239
Speaker 1: away to wide receivers streaking down right in front of

921
00:40:26,280 --> 00:40:30,640
Speaker 1: the popline. I I just had never seen anybody. That's

922
00:40:30,640 --> 00:40:33,520
Speaker 1: what we do before every every game. After we get

923
00:40:33,520 --> 00:40:35,799
Speaker 1: our punt formation out, you know, the receiver saying at

924
00:40:35,800 --> 00:40:38,719
Speaker 1: the guard line. I dropped back and then I checked

925
00:40:38,719 --> 00:40:43,080
Speaker 1: that thing up there. You know, I think before pre game,

926
00:40:43,120 --> 00:40:45,160
Speaker 1: when we're doing like our single stuff is actually when

927
00:40:45,160 --> 00:40:47,279
Speaker 1: I actually get my real thrown in. Yeah, that's when

928
00:40:47,280 --> 00:40:49,520
Speaker 1: I kind of pushed the ball a little further. Actually. Yeah,

929
00:40:49,560 --> 00:40:51,560
Speaker 1: because I was there, I was like, this dude is like,

930
00:40:51,640 --> 00:40:55,399
Speaker 1: I mean, it's easy to talk, easy gas. Just yeah.

931
00:40:56,360 --> 00:40:58,359
Speaker 1: I just had never seen anyone like you know what.

932
00:40:58,640 --> 00:41:00,600
Speaker 1: I don't know who's here, but I'm just let them know.

933
00:41:00,840 --> 00:41:03,040
Speaker 1: It reminded me of being in high school and doing

934
00:41:03,040 --> 00:41:04,960
Speaker 1: basketball one up where you want to show everybody that

935
00:41:05,000 --> 00:41:06,640
Speaker 1: you can don't, but you can't really don't. So I

936
00:41:06,680 --> 00:41:13,759
Speaker 1: was like, Josh, all is out here? Did you in

937
00:41:13,800 --> 00:41:15,760
Speaker 1: high school hoops? Right? You play coops in high school?

938
00:41:15,880 --> 00:41:17,960
Speaker 1: You know? Some of them had the backboard that was

939
00:41:18,080 --> 00:41:19,600
Speaker 1: right at the rim where it stopped, and some of

940
00:41:19,640 --> 00:41:22,439
Speaker 1: them had the glass. I like the ones below because

941
00:41:22,440 --> 00:41:25,960
Speaker 1: I get the double tap on laid up. Absolutely that

942
00:41:26,040 --> 00:41:28,040
Speaker 1: was my jam. Absolutely, all right, I want to get it.

943
00:41:28,239 --> 00:41:30,760
Speaker 1: This is two nice Let's get to some tough stuff here.

944
00:41:31,040 --> 00:41:32,440
Speaker 1: So going back through, I went and looked at a

945
00:41:32,480 --> 00:41:34,319
Speaker 1: cut up of all your third and six plus right,

946
00:41:34,360 --> 00:41:36,120
Speaker 1: so you kind of eliminate these are this is big

947
00:41:36,120 --> 00:41:39,359
Speaker 1: boy football challenging. So the two things that that I

948
00:41:39,400 --> 00:41:41,200
Speaker 1: came away with the said, Okay, I'm looking forward to

949
00:41:41,200 --> 00:41:43,440
Speaker 1: seeing how Josh improves in these two areas, and I

950
00:41:43,480 --> 00:41:44,759
Speaker 1: want to get your thoughts on him and what your

951
00:41:44,800 --> 00:41:47,520
Speaker 1: game playing episode. Uh one was I thought there were

952
00:41:47,520 --> 00:41:50,160
Speaker 1: times where you got stuck. So you're working through your progression,

953
00:41:50,160 --> 00:41:51,800
Speaker 1: you got kind of locked and you got stuck a

954
00:41:51,880 --> 00:41:54,120
Speaker 1: couple of times. That was one. And the second thing

955
00:41:54,160 --> 00:41:57,080
Speaker 1: I noticed was your arm is so big at some point,

956
00:41:57,080 --> 00:41:59,560
Speaker 1: and sometimes I see you're just getting a little over

957
00:41:59,560 --> 00:42:02,239
Speaker 1: aggress of at that time, give me your game plan,

958
00:42:02,360 --> 00:42:04,520
Speaker 1: what where I am with that, where you are with that,

959
00:42:04,560 --> 00:42:06,960
Speaker 1: and where you go forward. Yeah, So going back to

960
00:42:07,040 --> 00:42:09,719
Speaker 1: getting stuck on reads and you know, getting into my

961
00:42:09,760 --> 00:42:12,480
Speaker 1: second and third reading, my progression. Sometimes I just felt that,

962
00:42:12,640 --> 00:42:14,759
Speaker 1: you know, I'm sitting here, I'm I'm ready to get hit.

963
00:42:14,920 --> 00:42:18,040
Speaker 1: You know, I feel like I didn't trust my line enough. Um.

964
00:42:18,080 --> 00:42:20,680
Speaker 1: There's some instances where obviously I saw a color and

965
00:42:20,680 --> 00:42:22,560
Speaker 1: had to flash and get out, and uh, you know

966
00:42:22,600 --> 00:42:25,160
Speaker 1: that was just kind of the result of you know, um,

967
00:42:25,200 --> 00:42:27,600
Speaker 1: you know, feeling bullets around me. And then it's constantly

968
00:42:27,640 --> 00:42:29,759
Speaker 1: what I felt going back to high school. That's what

969
00:42:29,760 --> 00:42:32,040
Speaker 1: I've done. You know, I've seen in flash and color,

970
00:42:32,080 --> 00:42:34,160
Speaker 1: I'm getting out. I'm gonna try to make a play.

971
00:42:34,239 --> 00:42:35,960
Speaker 1: So that that's one of the emphasis that I tried

972
00:42:36,000 --> 00:42:37,200
Speaker 1: to make this year was trying to stay in the

973
00:42:37,200 --> 00:42:39,840
Speaker 1: pocket and go through my reads and um, you know,

974
00:42:39,880 --> 00:42:42,239
Speaker 1: there to a certain point I did that, but when

975
00:42:42,280 --> 00:42:44,600
Speaker 1: I got to probably number two and three, most times

976
00:42:44,600 --> 00:42:46,919
Speaker 1: it was like he's not coming open, and I don't

977
00:42:46,920 --> 00:42:48,840
Speaker 1: know if I can get to this fourth one. So

978
00:42:48,920 --> 00:42:50,319
Speaker 1: I don't know what I'm gonna do. I'm gonna hold

979
00:42:50,320 --> 00:42:53,120
Speaker 1: onto this ball and not forced to turn over. Um. Yeah,

980
00:42:53,160 --> 00:42:56,600
Speaker 1: So and then um, I was the second just like

981
00:42:56,600 --> 00:42:58,799
Speaker 1: like some hero throws, just where you just saying okay,

982
00:42:58,800 --> 00:43:00,719
Speaker 1: I can get it. I think I can not get

983
00:43:00,719 --> 00:43:03,320
Speaker 1: that one. Yeah, that's just kind of knowing the limitations

984
00:43:03,320 --> 00:43:05,640
Speaker 1: of playing quarterback and the type of bond that I have.

985
00:43:05,680 --> 00:43:08,160
Speaker 1: Obviously it's it's a bigger arm. And you know, I

986
00:43:08,840 --> 00:43:11,560
Speaker 1: experience a lot of you know, failure my first year.

987
00:43:11,600 --> 00:43:15,319
Speaker 1: You know, seventeen interceptions I elimitated, eliminated most of those.

988
00:43:15,360 --> 00:43:17,600
Speaker 1: I threw six this past season, And that was just

989
00:43:17,840 --> 00:43:19,799
Speaker 1: me knowing that there's some throws that I can't make.

990
00:43:19,840 --> 00:43:22,239
Speaker 1: There's some throws that I shouldn't make, holding on the ball,

991
00:43:22,320 --> 00:43:24,200
Speaker 1: throwing the ball away a lot more of this past

992
00:43:24,200 --> 00:43:26,440
Speaker 1: season is what's kind of helped me out. But obviously

993
00:43:26,480 --> 00:43:30,359
Speaker 1: continuing UH to kind of handle that process. Um, coming

994
00:43:30,440 --> 00:43:32,280
Speaker 1: up to the combine and being able to tell everybody

995
00:43:32,280 --> 00:43:34,640
Speaker 1: about this is um, you know, really what I'm trying

996
00:43:34,680 --> 00:43:37,160
Speaker 1: to do. So I know you're gonna get this. Being

997
00:43:37,160 --> 00:43:38,759
Speaker 1: in this profession, we've both been and so we know

998
00:43:38,840 --> 00:43:40,840
Speaker 1: the question you're gonna get. People are gonna try and

999
00:43:40,840 --> 00:43:43,160
Speaker 1: get under your skin. And the question is going to

1000
00:43:43,239 --> 00:43:46,960
Speaker 1: be every time you guys stepped up Nebraska, Oregon, Um,

1001
00:43:47,040 --> 00:43:49,440
Speaker 1: what's the other ia? So you're gonna get that. They're

1002
00:43:49,440 --> 00:43:51,719
Speaker 1: gonna see if teams, if that riles you up, they're

1003
00:43:51,719 --> 00:43:53,680
Speaker 1: gonna try and get under your skin. What's been your

1004
00:43:53,680 --> 00:43:55,520
Speaker 1: answer so far? I'm sure you'vely have you already got

1005
00:43:55,560 --> 00:43:59,719
Speaker 1: that already? UM a few times? Yeah, And uh, you know,

1006
00:43:59,800 --> 00:44:03,319
Speaker 1: I just understand that sometimes in those in those games,

1007
00:44:03,360 --> 00:44:05,120
Speaker 1: I felt that I needed to make more plays than

1008
00:44:05,120 --> 00:44:08,520
Speaker 1: I probably should have. And you know, I hold myself

1009
00:44:08,560 --> 00:44:10,880
Speaker 1: to I understandard and I understand that when we step

1010
00:44:10,880 --> 00:44:14,040
Speaker 1: on the field that you know, this game is it's

1011
00:44:14,040 --> 00:44:15,759
Speaker 1: gonna be tough one and I gotta go out there

1012
00:44:15,760 --> 00:44:18,120
Speaker 1: and make plays. And sometimes I pressed UM and I

1013
00:44:18,160 --> 00:44:20,719
Speaker 1: probably shouldn't have, you know. But at the same time,

1014
00:44:20,760 --> 00:44:22,719
Speaker 1: you look at the Mountain West team, you look at

1015
00:44:22,800 --> 00:44:25,520
Speaker 1: Power five teams, Um, I wouldn't say they're all that

1016
00:44:25,600 --> 00:44:28,000
Speaker 1: much different. You know, they they've got depth in the

1017
00:44:28,040 --> 00:44:30,120
Speaker 1: Power five and one guy can go out and they're

1018
00:44:30,120 --> 00:44:32,760
Speaker 1: gonna replace him with somebody that's not gonna miss a step.

1019
00:44:32,760 --> 00:44:34,520
Speaker 1: When Mountain West, it could change a team. It could

1020
00:44:34,600 --> 00:44:38,400
Speaker 1: change a defense. So, um, you know it's I understand

1021
00:44:38,400 --> 00:44:39,880
Speaker 1: that the question is gonna come up. And I know

1022
00:44:39,960 --> 00:44:42,520
Speaker 1: the stats don't look good against Power five teams, but

1023
00:44:42,640 --> 00:44:45,759
Speaker 1: we played some some pretty good teams and uh, you

1024
00:44:45,800 --> 00:44:48,279
Speaker 1: know Iowa this year was they were a damn good

1025
00:44:48,280 --> 00:44:50,279
Speaker 1: football team on defense, and they had some really good

1026
00:44:50,280 --> 00:44:53,080
Speaker 1: players in Josh Jackson and Jose Jewel. That's the best,

1027
00:44:53,160 --> 00:44:56,279
Speaker 1: you know, defensive player I've ever played against. He was

1028
00:44:56,480 --> 00:44:58,560
Speaker 1: all over the field, and um, they were able to

1029
00:44:58,560 --> 00:45:00,600
Speaker 1: get some pressure on me. And you know, when I,

1030
00:45:00,719 --> 00:45:02,640
Speaker 1: like I said, when when I feel those live bullets

1031
00:45:02,680 --> 00:45:04,640
Speaker 1: coming at me, there's one instinct for me, and that's

1032
00:45:04,640 --> 00:45:06,719
Speaker 1: to get out. And that's what I'm trying to tame

1033
00:45:06,760 --> 00:45:09,200
Speaker 1: in this next process. Let's talk about that quarterback room

1034
00:45:09,520 --> 00:45:11,279
Speaker 1: because you have a bunch of alpha dogs in the

1035
00:45:11,400 --> 00:45:14,920
Speaker 1: quarterback room. Everyone is gunning for that top spot. How

1036
00:45:14,960 --> 00:45:18,120
Speaker 1: are you going to handle the internal and external pressure

1037
00:45:18,239 --> 00:45:21,359
Speaker 1: of I'm competing with dudes while we're still in this

1038
00:45:21,440 --> 00:45:23,399
Speaker 1: game to kind of get it done. You know, I'm

1039
00:45:23,400 --> 00:45:27,239
Speaker 1: gonna be myself and I definitely think when I'm on um,

1040
00:45:27,280 --> 00:45:28,800
Speaker 1: I'm one of the best quarterbacks in the nation. I

1041
00:45:28,840 --> 00:45:30,359
Speaker 1: think I'm the best quarterback in the nation when I'm

1042
00:45:30,360 --> 00:45:32,040
Speaker 1: on and you know, that's what I've been kind of

1043
00:45:32,040 --> 00:45:34,279
Speaker 1: dealing with Jordan Palmer these past a few weeks is

1044
00:45:34,320 --> 00:45:37,120
Speaker 1: cleaning up my throwing motion, the mechanics, everything like that.

1045
00:45:37,560 --> 00:45:39,960
Speaker 1: And when I've got a good stroke, when I'm when

1046
00:45:39,960 --> 00:45:42,279
Speaker 1: I'm consistent with my stroke coming from me and to

1047
00:45:42,320 --> 00:45:45,279
Speaker 1: consistently throw the ball with accuracy. Uh So that's what

1048
00:45:45,320 --> 00:45:47,359
Speaker 1: it kind of comes down to. Everybody knows that I've got,

1049
00:45:47,440 --> 00:45:49,120
Speaker 1: you know, the strong arm. They know I can throw

1050
00:45:49,160 --> 00:45:52,200
Speaker 1: the ball how many you know, how many every yards? Um,

1051
00:45:52,239 --> 00:45:53,680
Speaker 1: I think this is the time where you know, it

1052
00:45:53,760 --> 00:45:55,800
Speaker 1: takes some takes them off of it and try to

1053
00:45:55,840 --> 00:45:57,600
Speaker 1: show people that I can place the ball where I

1054
00:45:57,600 --> 00:45:59,800
Speaker 1: want to place it when it needs to be placed there.

1055
00:45:59,800 --> 00:46:02,319
Speaker 1: You've to Jordan Palmer, you now Sam's working out down there.

1056
00:46:02,320 --> 00:46:05,279
Speaker 1: To Sam, what's your relationship been like with Sam and

1057
00:46:05,320 --> 00:46:07,719
Speaker 1: going through this process with him. It's been great, it

1058
00:46:07,800 --> 00:46:10,279
Speaker 1: really has been. And Um, you know, Sam's a great kid,

1059
00:46:10,280 --> 00:46:13,000
Speaker 1: he comes from a great family. And being able to

1060
00:46:13,040 --> 00:46:15,200
Speaker 1: go out there and compete against him and it's too

1061
00:46:15,400 --> 00:46:18,640
Speaker 1: is um you know, highly regarded as we are. There's

1062
00:46:18,680 --> 00:46:21,520
Speaker 1: no tension, and we understand that we both have flaws,

1063
00:46:21,560 --> 00:46:23,120
Speaker 1: we both want to be better, and we both you know,

1064
00:46:23,239 --> 00:46:26,000
Speaker 1: do things better than each other. And uh, you know,

1065
00:46:26,000 --> 00:46:28,160
Speaker 1: we're just trying to raise our levels because ultimately we're

1066
00:46:28,160 --> 00:46:30,360
Speaker 1: not competing against each other right now. We know that,

1067
00:46:30,440 --> 00:46:33,240
Speaker 1: and we understand that, you know, somebody's gonna go higher

1068
00:46:33,239 --> 00:46:36,279
Speaker 1: than the other, and uh, that's that's all perfectly fine,

1069
00:46:36,320 --> 00:46:38,120
Speaker 1: because it's not about going higher, it's going to the

1070
00:46:38,200 --> 00:46:40,279
Speaker 1: right team. And we understand that completely. But this is

1071
00:46:40,320 --> 00:46:41,959
Speaker 1: the last thing we want to ask you here, because

1072
00:46:41,960 --> 00:46:43,800
Speaker 1: we wanted let's just do a scenario here, he added

1073
00:46:43,840 --> 00:46:46,200
Speaker 1: out the earlier stuff. All right, let's put you in

1074
00:46:46,200 --> 00:46:48,560
Speaker 1: a situation. Games on the line. You got a chance,

1075
00:46:48,640 --> 00:46:51,319
Speaker 1: last drive going on and win the game. Play call

1076
00:46:51,400 --> 00:46:53,480
Speaker 1: that you're familiar with, the route that you like. What

1077
00:46:53,560 --> 00:46:55,800
Speaker 1: ball do you want to throw as the walk off winner.

1078
00:46:57,160 --> 00:47:01,319
Speaker 1: I'm independent on coverage. If we're going whatever you want,

1079
00:47:02,920 --> 00:47:04,960
Speaker 1: We're going gun right out six to come with falcon

1080
00:47:05,040 --> 00:47:08,120
Speaker 1: right or falcon gun right out six, come with falcon left.

1081
00:47:08,280 --> 00:47:11,400
Speaker 1: I'm throwing the inside faith on the left side. Faiths

1082
00:47:11,400 --> 00:47:13,560
Speaker 1: from the inside. Buck. We talked about it forever we do.

1083
00:47:14,640 --> 00:47:16,799
Speaker 1: It really is it's the easiest route. All that real

1084
00:47:16,920 --> 00:47:18,640
Speaker 1: estate out there and put it in anywhere you want,

1085
00:47:18,640 --> 00:47:20,560
Speaker 1: and the receivers looking back at you and the DBS

1086
00:47:20,560 --> 00:47:23,279
Speaker 1: looking at the receiver, so it's toughest route to cover.

1087
00:47:23,280 --> 00:47:26,040
Speaker 1: In my opinion, Buck, I thought it was a very

1088
00:47:26,080 --> 00:47:29,120
Speaker 1: honest interview there with Josh Allen. I think he's he's

1089
00:47:29,120 --> 00:47:31,440
Speaker 1: got a good perspective on where things are. Yeah, I do.

1090
00:47:31,600 --> 00:47:33,960
Speaker 1: I think he has a clear sense of who he

1091
00:47:34,120 --> 00:47:36,239
Speaker 1: is and where he is in this process and what

1092
00:47:36,320 --> 00:47:37,920
Speaker 1: he needs to work on to be the player that

1093
00:47:37,960 --> 00:47:40,080
Speaker 1: many of us project him to be at the next level.

1094
00:47:40,400 --> 00:47:42,839
Speaker 1: And so I'm pulling form because I think he's kind

1095
00:47:42,840 --> 00:47:45,279
Speaker 1: of figured it out. He's homing himself enough to get

1096
00:47:45,440 --> 00:47:47,960
Speaker 1: some guys to help him work on some of those deficiencies,

1097
00:47:48,040 --> 00:47:49,359
Speaker 1: and we'll see how it turns out in a couple

1098
00:47:49,400 --> 00:47:51,120
Speaker 1: of years. I want to do something. I want to

1099
00:47:51,120 --> 00:47:52,759
Speaker 1: give you a phrase that I use all the time,

1100
00:47:52,760 --> 00:47:54,800
Speaker 1: and see if you can explain to people, because sometimes

1101
00:47:54,840 --> 00:47:56,840
Speaker 1: you say things. We have our little scouting phrases, right,

1102
00:47:56,880 --> 00:47:58,360
Speaker 1: and I wonder if the folks at home know exactly

1103
00:47:58,400 --> 00:48:00,920
Speaker 1: what we're talking about. With a guy like Josh Allen,

1104
00:48:01,360 --> 00:48:03,279
Speaker 1: I used the phrase, Lie, I say, he's wired the

1105
00:48:03,360 --> 00:48:05,680
Speaker 1: right way. So for those that are listening to that

1106
00:48:05,719 --> 00:48:07,719
Speaker 1: saying what does that mean, it means he has the

1107
00:48:07,800 --> 00:48:10,160
Speaker 1: right mentality, that he's humble enough to notice he's not

1108
00:48:10,320 --> 00:48:12,640
Speaker 1: an all star, he's not a hot shot that has

1109
00:48:12,640 --> 00:48:14,719
Speaker 1: it all figured out, and that if he's going to

1110
00:48:14,800 --> 00:48:16,520
Speaker 1: be the guy that many of us think that he

1111
00:48:16,560 --> 00:48:18,200
Speaker 1: can be at the next level, he has to go

1112
00:48:18,239 --> 00:48:20,000
Speaker 1: and find some of the answers to the problems that

1113
00:48:20,040 --> 00:48:22,799
Speaker 1: he's had up until this point. And I think when

1114
00:48:22,800 --> 00:48:25,640
Speaker 1: you talk about his wiring, I found him to be

1115
00:48:25,880 --> 00:48:29,840
Speaker 1: humble enough to know that, Okay, I'm not a perfect prospect,

1116
00:48:29,920 --> 00:48:32,480
Speaker 1: but I do have the potential to be really, really

1117
00:48:32,520 --> 00:48:35,000
Speaker 1: good if I get the right people around me to

1118
00:48:35,120 --> 00:48:37,279
Speaker 1: teach me the right stuff. It's a combination to me,

1119
00:48:37,360 --> 00:48:40,840
Speaker 1: like of of work ethics, self awareness, and always striving

1120
00:48:40,880 --> 00:48:42,640
Speaker 1: to get better each and every day. I think he

1121
00:48:42,680 --> 00:48:44,719
Speaker 1: has wired that way, and I think that's a that's

1122
00:48:44,719 --> 00:48:46,719
Speaker 1: something that bodes well for his future. How about a

1123
00:48:46,719 --> 00:48:49,120
Speaker 1: team fit, an ideal team fit for Josh Allen at

1124
00:48:49,120 --> 00:48:51,120
Speaker 1: the next level, who you got well, it seemed wants

1125
00:48:51,160 --> 00:48:53,280
Speaker 1: some the most I would think would be the Buffalo

1126
00:48:53,320 --> 00:48:54,960
Speaker 1: Bills and the reason why it would be a good

1127
00:48:55,000 --> 00:48:57,200
Speaker 1: fit up there is because you're talking about I've talked

1128
00:48:57,200 --> 00:49:00,839
Speaker 1: about him being wired the right way, Sean McDermott, Brandon Bean.

1129
00:49:01,080 --> 00:49:03,360
Speaker 1: They created a coach in Buffalo with these are blue

1130
00:49:03,360 --> 00:49:05,360
Speaker 1: collar guys. They have a bunch of blue collar players

1131
00:49:05,400 --> 00:49:07,120
Speaker 1: on their squad. They're just gonna go to work and

1132
00:49:07,120 --> 00:49:08,879
Speaker 1: they're gonna see what happens at the end of the day.

1133
00:49:09,239 --> 00:49:11,799
Speaker 1: Josh Allen strikes me as a guy that can fall

1134
00:49:11,840 --> 00:49:14,520
Speaker 1: in line with their premise. He's not worried about being

1135
00:49:14,520 --> 00:49:16,960
Speaker 1: a superstar. He wants to be a great player, and

1136
00:49:17,000 --> 00:49:19,560
Speaker 1: so put him in that locker room with those people.

1137
00:49:19,640 --> 00:49:21,759
Speaker 1: They surround him with the right stuff. He could be

1138
00:49:21,840 --> 00:49:23,359
Speaker 1: a guy that could be a long term fixture at

1139
00:49:23,360 --> 00:49:25,839
Speaker 1: the position in Buffalo. Well, again, I think this might

1140
00:49:25,880 --> 00:49:28,200
Speaker 1: be a little bit early, but the New York Giants

1141
00:49:28,239 --> 00:49:30,200
Speaker 1: to me, I keep beating that drum. I think if

1142
00:49:30,239 --> 00:49:32,400
Speaker 1: I'm Josh Allen, that's where I want to go. Uh.

1143
00:49:32,440 --> 00:49:33,960
Speaker 1: There's no rush to get on the field. You get

1144
00:49:33,960 --> 00:49:36,480
Speaker 1: a two time Super Bowl winner and Eli Manning sit

1145
00:49:36,560 --> 00:49:39,160
Speaker 1: behind him, get to soak up the knowledge from him.

1146
00:49:39,200 --> 00:49:41,520
Speaker 1: No pressure to get on the field, continue to work

1147
00:49:41,520 --> 00:49:43,320
Speaker 1: through some things. I think you look at you know,

1148
00:49:43,360 --> 00:49:45,320
Speaker 1: Pat Mahomes last year was a great example, getting to

1149
00:49:45,320 --> 00:49:46,840
Speaker 1: sit for the whole year. They can go back to

1150
00:49:46,840 --> 00:49:49,600
Speaker 1: Philip Rivers getting to sit behind Drew Brees. Now everybody

1151
00:49:49,600 --> 00:49:51,440
Speaker 1: talks about Aaron Rodgers sent by and far, there's a

1152
00:49:51,440 --> 00:49:53,680
Speaker 1: long list of guys that have been successful having an

1153
00:49:53,719 --> 00:49:56,319
Speaker 1: opportunity to sit. I think the Giants would give him

1154
00:49:56,360 --> 00:49:59,120
Speaker 1: the greatest chance to sit for an entire season, if

1155
00:49:59,160 --> 00:50:01,200
Speaker 1: not even more than I wouldn't be opposed hiding for

1156
00:50:01,239 --> 00:50:03,080
Speaker 1: a year and a half and then get a chance

1157
00:50:03,120 --> 00:50:04,880
Speaker 1: to take over that team. Also have some nice young

1158
00:50:04,920 --> 00:50:07,440
Speaker 1: weapons there in Odell Beckham Jr. To To deal with. Here,

1159
00:50:07,440 --> 00:50:09,160
Speaker 1: You've got a big time tight end as well, So

1160
00:50:09,200 --> 00:50:12,080
Speaker 1: they've got some good pieces in place there with I'm

1161
00:50:12,080 --> 00:50:14,360
Speaker 1: gonna give you a bonus pick. How about the Arizona Cardinals.

1162
00:50:14,400 --> 00:50:16,680
Speaker 1: The Arizona Cardinals, because you talked about have an opportunity

1163
00:50:16,719 --> 00:50:18,640
Speaker 1: to sit and learn. We has two guys that are

1164
00:50:18,719 --> 00:50:21,320
Speaker 1: positioning right in front of him potentially in Sam Bradford

1165
00:50:21,360 --> 00:50:23,920
Speaker 1: and Mike Glennon. There you can put him in. You

1166
00:50:23,920 --> 00:50:26,280
Speaker 1: can allow him to really work on his craft away

1167
00:50:26,280 --> 00:50:28,720
Speaker 1: from the spotlight and then in a year or two,

1168
00:50:28,760 --> 00:50:31,319
Speaker 1: maybe he's the franchise guy down in the desert. I

1169
00:50:31,400 --> 00:50:34,040
Speaker 1: like that, thinking they're a little Josh Allen down in

1170
00:50:34,280 --> 00:50:35,680
Speaker 1: down in the desert. That would have a nice little

1171
00:50:35,719 --> 00:50:37,560
Speaker 1: ring to it. All Right, that's gonna do it for

1172
00:50:37,600 --> 00:50:41,520
Speaker 1: this episode, the Josh Allen three sixty episode. I really

1173
00:50:41,600 --> 00:50:43,520
Speaker 1: enjoyed getting a chance to know him better, get a

1174
00:50:43,560 --> 00:50:45,120
Speaker 1: chance to visit with him as well as some people

1175
00:50:45,120 --> 00:50:47,400
Speaker 1: around him. Buck. I feel like, hopefully the folks at

1176
00:50:47,400 --> 00:50:50,160
Speaker 1: home get a better chance to understand what Josh Allen

1177
00:50:50,280 --> 00:50:52,279
Speaker 1: is all about and why the hype has been there

1178
00:50:52,280 --> 00:50:54,160
Speaker 1: on this guy for quite some time. Yeah, I think

1179
00:50:54,160 --> 00:50:55,520
Speaker 1: he gave a lot of perspective, had a lot of

1180
00:50:55,520 --> 00:50:57,960
Speaker 1: people give a lot of perspective on Josh Allen and

1181
00:50:57,960 --> 00:51:00,279
Speaker 1: why he is so exciting, says so many of us

1182
00:51:00,320 --> 00:51:02,520
Speaker 1: in the scouting community. Man, if you enjoyed this episode,

1183
00:51:02,520 --> 00:51:04,680
Speaker 1: be sure to check out the rest of our three

1184
00:51:04,760 --> 00:51:08,360
Speaker 1: sixty series. We do this exact same treatment on several

1185
00:51:08,360 --> 00:51:10,080
Speaker 1: of the top players in this draft class. You get

1186
00:51:10,120 --> 00:51:12,240
Speaker 1: to learn about them both on and off the field.

1187
00:51:12,520 --> 00:51:14,520
Speaker 1: It's one of our favorite things we do here on

1188
00:51:14,640 --> 00:51:17,400
Speaker 1: Move the Sticks. Hope you enjoyed this episode. Be on

1189
00:51:17,440 --> 00:51:20,040
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