Speaker 1: Mm hmmm, mm hmmm.
Speaker 2: Welcome back jackets.
Speaker 3: Is a good day?
Speaker 2: Man? Were you telling a list?
Speaker 3: I mean we of just uh what's the theme that
Speaker 3: the Fast and Furious ten is the theme? I guess
Speaker 3: we're going with.
Speaker 4: Man, we're just taking off of the space fast and furious.
Speaker 4: That's what we're the fast and furious in this space.
Speaker 3: So now we want to welcome to the show. Something
Speaker 3: we've been listen, We've been trying to get this doe
Speaker 3: for a minute. Man, my dog trying to get this
Speaker 3: doe for a minute, pulled up a.
Speaker 4: Snag at my wedding, without a without a thought, and
Speaker 4: then disappeared again, and then disappeared to night.
Speaker 2: To disappeared through the curtain.
Speaker 3: We've never seen it. Man, Welcome to the show, man, Tyre,
Speaker 3: I appreciate to catch up with you. Yes, Yes, multi talented,
Speaker 3: grateful to be here, believe it. Singer, songwriter, actor. What
Speaker 3: is it like when you think about where it started
Speaker 3: to where you are right now? Do you ever get
Speaker 3: a chance? Are you constantly trying to see what's next?
Speaker 2: Uh? Man, I tell people that where I'm from, what
Speaker 2: I've seen, what I've been exposed to throughout my childhood,
Speaker 2: and teenage years before I got on. Nothing about what
Speaker 2: I see in my dreams will ever compete with how
Speaker 2: blessed in life altering I see when I wake up,
Speaker 2: you look at my life life man, You know, like
Speaker 2: when I go to sleep, I be so tired. Its
Speaker 2: pitch black man, you know what I mean? I don't know.
Speaker 2: I dream with my eyes open, so I just see shit. Man,
Speaker 2: I just be like wow, man, Like my whole thing
Speaker 2: got off the ground for my thirty second commercial. So
Speaker 2: we've already been sitting there longer than thirty seconds. It
Speaker 2: was supposed to be over for me already. So every
Speaker 2: day that I'm able to wake up and see and
Speaker 2: experience and meet and you know, just go places and
Speaker 2: catch a vibe. Man, it's it's life altering. Hold on,
Speaker 2: I don't know who's making noise over there with the
Speaker 2: potato chips?
Speaker 3: Yes, who is it? Please?
Speaker 2: But who is it? Who is I promise you that
Speaker 2: shit You would think that I got on some headphones
Speaker 2: right now with how loud that shit? Oh my, Like,
Speaker 2: I promise, these thoughts are expensive. I want to reach
Speaker 2: them all. I've been weak on this shit. Please yeah,
Speaker 2: please with the dorito.
Speaker 5: Bag, carry on?
Speaker 2: Sorry, yeah, So you know, I just really feel like,
Speaker 2: you know, I think the moment you take your access
Speaker 2: for granted, your access will no longer be granted, you
Speaker 2: know what I mean? So I literally like it ain't
Speaker 2: about slab rich money, mansion, this and that. Man, I
Speaker 2: can't believe any of this, which allows me to really
Speaker 2: like like wow, you know every day. Yeah, And I
Speaker 2: just hope that never ends. Man, I don't ever want
Speaker 2: to get too familiar with being blessed.
Speaker 3: Take us back to you said, the commercial kind of
Speaker 3: change your life. Take us back to that process, how
Speaker 3: that came about, and what would just like in that
Speaker 3: moment and obviously you never thought it would be what
Speaker 3: it is, But walk us back through that process.
Speaker 2: I was they called my high scho school, how were you? Sixteen?
Speaker 2: Said they was looking for a male black sixteen through eighteen.
Speaker 2: They had already been to like three other states, you know,
Speaker 2: New York, Atlanta, and then the school that I went
Speaker 2: to was a school, you know, with a lot of
Speaker 2: performing arts. A lot of folks had graduated, you know,
Speaker 2: the whole horn section of Earth Wind and Fire, saxophone
Speaker 2: player Gerald Albright, a legend named Patrice Russian, the drummer
Speaker 2: and Google Chancellor. So a bunch of folks that y'all
Speaker 2: may not know or maybe, but they were all legends,
Speaker 2: came out of the school. So when they started making
Speaker 2: phone calls, it was like, let's let's let's call the
Speaker 2: schools where they normally have singers and really talented people.
Speaker 2: So I was at Lock High School in South Central,
Speaker 2: got the phone call. My music teacher got to call
Speaker 2: Reggie Andrews rest in Peace, and yeah, he was like, yeah,
Speaker 2: they just called, and you know, hey, man, I think
Speaker 2: everything's about to change for you. I'm looking at him like, shit,
Speaker 2: I'll take anything over twenty dollars whatever it is. If
Speaker 2: it's more than twenty dollars, we out of here. So yeah,
Speaker 2: it's been to sit down on the back of that bus, man,
Speaker 2: And I don't know, I got so many different things, Matt,
Speaker 2: that just kind of it's kind of hard to answer
Speaker 2: that question because it's like I be I you know,
Speaker 2: if I can simplify it would be imagine or remember
Speaker 2: your prom you got your suit on shit has rented.
Speaker 2: It's nice, you got your paddent letter, you know what
Speaker 2: I mean. And if you were blessed enough to have
Speaker 2: a limb even if you roll with one of the homies,
Speaker 2: sun roof is out like limo and everything is like
Speaker 2: a fantasy. But you know, at a certain point, this
Speaker 2: limos gotta go back. Suit gotta go back. Suit's gotta
Speaker 2: go back everything. You know, you go back to being
Speaker 2: a pumpkin. Man. I've been in this limosine for twenty
Speaker 2: five years. Bro been in this limo for twenty five man,
Speaker 2: I'm like, I almost convinced myself early on because of
Speaker 2: the level of trauma and dysfunction that I was born in,
Speaker 2: there was no way for me to ever think that
Speaker 2: it would be more than a thirty second, five minute high,
Speaker 2: you know, so like my life felt, my career felt
Speaker 2: like a rental car, felt like a limo. It was
Speaker 2: like fleeting. Ain't no fucking way this limo gonna stay here.
Speaker 2: With the way I'm looking and what we riding in
Speaker 2: and the sun roof and what we're doing. We got eight.
Speaker 2: I was wrap it up, it's over. I've been in
Speaker 2: this limbo over twenty five man, I can't believe it.
Speaker 2: So I had to shift from you know, so humble
Speaker 2: and so grateful. Wow, you know, I had to get
Speaker 2: out of the wow of the rental car and say
Speaker 2: I own the car. This is mine. God ain't gonna
Speaker 2: take it away and give it to nobody else. So
Speaker 2: now you gotta negotiate on the car. Different You got
Speaker 2: to think about get off your goofy shit and really think, like,
Speaker 2: if you don't get out of your so humble and
Speaker 2: so grateful, stay humble, but don't lose your value and
Speaker 2: understanding your position and disposition when it comes to deals
Speaker 2: and deal terms. Don't take what they're offering. Especially when
Speaker 2: I had kids, Man, everything was like shit, I was
Speaker 2: negotiating for me. Now, nigga, it's y'all versus my two daughters.
Speaker 2: I feel bad for whoever's on the other side of
Speaker 2: the deal, uh, because it ain't about us no more.
Speaker 2: Once once the angels get here, man, Like, don't embarrass
Speaker 2: yourself from that, not from thinking that next week is promised.
Speaker 2: I got next week to get my ship together. Yeah
Speaker 2: got it? So yeah, that's that's that's my answer, man.
Speaker 4: M Take us back to Watts. What was going on?
Speaker 4: And Tyree Gibson head as a young kid. You know,
Speaker 4: I know you got your he was raised by your mother,
Speaker 4: You had siblings, and your brother just got out recently, right, Yeah, yeah,
Speaker 4: yeah in Vegas Tyrone, yeah.
Speaker 2: Big bro man, Yeah, bet On one. But he pulling
Speaker 2: it together. Man, I'm proud of him. Yeah. So honestly, man,
Speaker 2: typical stories pretty much every level of dysfunction, every example
Speaker 2: of you know, it's all laid out, you're going to jail,
Speaker 2: you're gonna get shot, you know, drive by bloods, crips,
Speaker 2: Mexican gangs, rivals, one block away from the hoods that
Speaker 2: your hood don't get along with. And you know, I'm
Speaker 2: in the hood as a good guy. I never banged
Speaker 2: in my life, never sold nothing. I'm not gonna paint
Speaker 2: that picture. But you know, I grew up in and
Speaker 2: around monsters that's doing that shit for real every day,
Speaker 2: and so sometimes they'll take your head off just from
Speaker 2: where you live and who you know. And so I
Speaker 2: woke up expecting to die. I woke up like I
Speaker 2: pretty much know what the outcome of this shit's gonna
Speaker 2: be because I see it and I'm around it every day.
Speaker 2: I don't care if you're a good guy. Seen too
Speaker 2: many of the homies that ain't banging, ain't slanging dead
Speaker 2: playing basketball on the Wednesday. They did on Thursday, were
Speaker 2: doing fundraisers trying to raise money to bury the homie
Speaker 2: cause he's fucking twelve years old. Nobody had insurance in place,
Speaker 2: that wasn't a plan. So everything about kind of feeling like, yeah,
Speaker 2: I'm in this, but I feel different. I'm in this,
Speaker 2: but I'm not of this. And I didn't know I
Speaker 2: could sing at the time, but I knew that it
Speaker 2: didn't really feel like putting on that blue or that
Speaker 2: purple or whatever the armies do it. I didn't feel
Speaker 2: like I ain't really I don't really know if I
Speaker 2: had the heart that like really step in it on
Speaker 2: that level. I didn't really know if I was finna
Speaker 2: be out there with the ziploc bags and and and
Speaker 2: pushing it on that level and you know, carrying, and
Speaker 2: I don't I don't know if that was in the
Speaker 2: cards for me like that. So to see it, to
Speaker 2: be around it, to feel it is to know what
Speaker 2: is yours, Like I know, because the example is there, nigga,
Speaker 2: you can you can put the trucks on. And it
Speaker 2: just never felt like some ship that was real for me.
Speaker 2: But at the same time, I didn't know what I
Speaker 2: was going to be like. I wasn't the best athlete.
Speaker 2: I was cool, but I wasn't. I wasn't killing niggas
Speaker 2: on the court. It was like I had nobody show.
Speaker 3: Up when they talk about what they used to do.
Speaker 4: Everybody else, everyone else the interviewed, they don't play.
Speaker 3: Who appreciate you carry Listen.
Speaker 2: Man, I might get you might got a strong three
Speaker 2: piece in a biscuit out of me that I'm tired
Speaker 2: as a motherfucker. I'm gonna give a nigga my best ai. Yeah,
Speaker 2: so after word, but yeah, when I seen the nigga
Speaker 2: saying the national anthem, I was like, Yo, that's all right,
Speaker 2: what's that? That's all right. We're looking at this right here. Man,
Speaker 2: that's all right. You know what I mean. Everybody's standing up,
Speaker 2: full attention, no one's distracted. If I they got their
Speaker 2: hand on their heart, I think I could do this. Yeah,
Speaker 2: but nah, it's uh. All my homies, like even my
Speaker 2: best homie is here with me, and you know, eight
Speaker 2: years old, my nigga kin yata man, top top athlete. Man.
Speaker 2: You know all my boys, Man, I go to their cribs.
Speaker 2: They got the whole wall of trophies. I'd be like,
Speaker 2: I don't really know what this in the cars for
Speaker 2: me like that to be out here. So I just
Speaker 2: was lost, felt different, didn't really felt feel like I belong.
Speaker 2: But then, just what do you have in mind? God?
Speaker 2: You know the homies go to jail and they come out.
Speaker 2: They trying to make it sound like it's that shit
Speaker 2: up that moment. I'm not. I'm not fucking with any
Speaker 2: of that dialogue that came from you got you got
Speaker 2: niggas happy more happy to celebrate the homie getting out
Speaker 2: of jail from doing five or ten. But when somebody
Speaker 2: graduate from high school, you know they got three homies
Speaker 2: at that event, it's we four hundred deep and the
Speaker 2: homie get out. I don't really know if I'm I
Speaker 2: don't know, ruh. It's just like super early on. Shit
Speaker 2: was just like, ah, like what the what? What is
Speaker 2: this that I'm feeling? Because I know what I'm supposed
Speaker 2: to feel. I see it, I'm around it every day.
Speaker 2: The m part of the Curly Top Snoop dre n
Speaker 2: W A straight out of Compton, I'm in watching right
Speaker 2: next door. This is this is what it is. God
Speaker 2: just had other plans, man, So imagine me not being
Speaker 2: grateful when nothing about my life looked like that, and
Speaker 2: I still got homies over there right now, and yeah,
Speaker 2: this has been unbelievable. I like, I don't focus on
Speaker 2: my Wikipedia page resume. I'm like, nigga, I'm I can't
Speaker 2: believe I'm on another airplane. I'm looking out the window, like, shit,
Speaker 2: this shit great. Where we going? This shit? This shit
Speaker 2: is mind blowing, all of it.
Speaker 3: Late nineties, You sign your first deal with the major
Speaker 3: record label. How'd that come about?
Speaker 2: That was after the co commercial? You know, that's when
Speaker 2: labels existed. Uh So, after I did the coke commercial.
Speaker 2: One of the first people tried to sign it was
Speaker 2: Andre Herrel, which was crazy because he like literally sent
Speaker 2: niggas to my school, onto my high school campus trying
Speaker 2: to It's like it was like an NBA scout courting.
Speaker 2: They was at the at the talent shows. I'll be
Speaker 2: sitting there eating lunch, a little and pieces and shit,
Speaker 2: little brownie cake. I'll just look up, Hey, what's up? Job?
Speaker 2: Oh shit? What's you know? Like real record label executives?
Speaker 2: Because my music teacher was in the business too. You know,
Speaker 2: he wrote whipp It Baby with the Gap Band, so
Speaker 2: he had a lot of hit records that he wrote
Speaker 2: before he became a music teacher, so it was kind
Speaker 2: of like, who's there, who's his teacher? So they found
Speaker 2: out Reggie Andrew was my pops and my teacher, and
Speaker 2: that's how they got access to the campus. But they
Speaker 2: was all trying to sign. It was a twenty record
Speaker 2: label bidding war. So I ended up signing and I
Speaker 2: moved out of Watch. I bought my first crib of
Speaker 2: sixteen four bedroom, two car garage. My mama co signed
Speaker 2: because you got to be twenty one and cali at
Speaker 2: least to owner crib. I moved there with two rob
Speaker 2: Wallers and a fucking ice chess and not one piece
Speaker 2: of furniture, and I was just in there and that
Speaker 2: was the start of me feeling like something is happening.
Speaker 2: And the craziest thing is when I bought that crib,
Speaker 2: it was because I had a conversation with one of
Speaker 2: the big homies who never had no money, never, you know,
Speaker 2: and he's like, hey, nigga, listen, when you get this money,
Speaker 2: don't be another should have would have? Could her? I
Speaker 2: looked at him, I was like, I'm like, what does
Speaker 2: that mean? Don't don't be able to say you should have?
Speaker 2: You would have and you could have if that's your money,
Speaker 2: buy a crib. Even if you lose the motherfucker, just
Speaker 2: go do something. Don't just be out here buying rims
Speaker 2: and jewelry and doing goofy shit. So when he said
Speaker 2: that to me, bruh, like literally, you just never know
Speaker 2: what conversation one of the big homies and have and
Speaker 2: what effect it can have on you. He said that
Speaker 2: to me, and I bought. I bought my first crib
Speaker 2: at sixteen in Hawthorn, right off the golf course, gated
Speaker 2: community call traditions at the greens, all my neighbors with
Speaker 2: my grandparents.
Speaker 3: Straight up, you play golf, No, live on a golf course.
Speaker 3: Don't play golf me. Uh, your first title album?
Speaker 2: That's my big bro right there. Every I promise you.
Speaker 2: This guy right here, before I even met this guy,
Speaker 2: was like, Yo, that's my digger right straight up. I'm
Speaker 2: talking about I'm seeing the documentaries and all that. Like
Speaker 2: your response is like, oh, I was like yo, that's like,
Speaker 2: I promise I know this digger right here. I sent
Speaker 2: them a d M on the ground like, Yo, man,
Speaker 2: I don't know you know what I mean, I ain't
Speaker 2: do you can't talk no sports and ship with me, nigga,
Speaker 2: if you don't want to pull up? And I pulled
Speaker 2: up like a mother. Yeah, grazy Yeah. How was it?
Speaker 3: How was it putting together your first self titled album?
Speaker 3: What was that process?
Speaker 2: Like? Weird? You know, because I wasn't third generation singer
Speaker 2: my Grandma's song, Mama song and now I'm a say,
Speaker 2: you know, I never there was no reference whatsoever to
Speaker 2: the blueprint, So wear these clothes, sing these songs, shoot
Speaker 2: these type of videos, and it was like, you know,
Speaker 2: I would, I can't. I'm not here to argue and
Speaker 2: debate what direction I'm going in. I don't know if
Speaker 2: I'm supposed to be singing and dancing like genuine songs
Speaker 2: like Pony or are Sure what you made me want
Speaker 2: to leave? You know, I'm like, nigga, am I supposed
Speaker 2: to be out here giving niggas shoulders? Well? Man, Like,
Speaker 2: I ain't even know what the fuck what I was like, nigga,
Speaker 2: I don't really know what you.
Speaker 3: Know what I mean, I'm like, who was your go to?
Speaker 2: I mean, I was just I was just kind of
Speaker 2: listening to whatever they was, you know, I didn't really
Speaker 2: I didn't really know who I was to be able
Speaker 2: to argue about no, I ain't feeling that song, like
Speaker 2: all y'all know more than me supposedly, So you know,
Speaker 2: I'm glad I listened because, uh shit, some got figured out.
Speaker 2: You know. I tell niggas a story all the time
Speaker 2: that my struggle, especially after all that I just shared
Speaker 2: about being in the hood, My struggle was even though
Speaker 2: I was singing nothing about singing in the hood, is
Speaker 2: you know the soft ass nigga. Get me. You could
Speaker 2: be the NBA NFL prospect all day. If you could
Speaker 2: even run track and still have niggas out here looking
Speaker 2: at you like good, You're gonna be out with big
Speaker 2: teeth ast nigga sit down singing. You know that the
Speaker 2: Homies wasn't It wasn't Homies wasn't sure. It was almost
Speaker 2: weird for the homies that I grew up with to
Speaker 2: show up to a talent show, like, you know, these
Speaker 2: niggas sitting in the front rope, go ahead, you know
Speaker 2: what I'm saying, Like, what what one of the big
Speaker 2: homies gonna say that? Cheer me on? He gangsters of
Speaker 2: he got he got some ship in his back. He
Speaker 2: looking to the left and the right, And I'm onna
Speaker 2: stay singing what go ahead? And nephew go ahead and nephew,
Speaker 2: you know what I mean. So everything with your chests, nigga,
Speaker 2: ain't that ship Marvin typ So it was it was,
Speaker 2: it was, it was. It was me just really trying
Speaker 2: to figure out like and I knew, I knew that
Speaker 2: this was like a feeling like this music ship is
Speaker 2: really never want to act ever, but this music ship, bro,
Speaker 2: that ship hit me like boom. So I was like
Speaker 2: the energy from the homies, like I said, and being
Speaker 2: in the hood and cripping in the blood and nothing
Speaker 2: about getting on stage trying to hold any kind of
Speaker 2: note is welcome here. And I was no church dude
Speaker 2: that was singing in the hood like you know, I
Speaker 2: went to church all the time my mom, but I
Speaker 2: wasn't a singer in the choir leading the choir. So
Speaker 2: the homies in the neighborhood like, oh boy, you killed
Speaker 2: it yesterday. It just came out the blue, and just
Speaker 2: trying to understand what is this unexpected gift? How do
Speaker 2: I protect him? What do I do with it? And yeah,
Speaker 2: so that's that's kind of how it happened. Man. So
Speaker 2: that the first album with Sweet Lady and Lately, And
Speaker 2: I mean that my first album came out in ninety eight.
Speaker 2: I just sold out twelve thousand, two days ago, and
Speaker 2: all they want to hear is Sweet Lady Lately. Like shit, man,
Speaker 2: I'll be on when I come out on stage, I
Speaker 2: just be looking at all them people like I just
Speaker 2: turned around, like, who the fuck is all these people? Like?
Speaker 2: I don't drop ams that often to matter in music
Speaker 2: like that, but they want to hear that shit. So
Speaker 2: I just everything is unbelievable.
Speaker 4: Man, That's all I can say. I got a funny story.
Speaker 4: Can I tell this funny story? So he said he
Speaker 4: didn't sing in the choir, so I did, but this
Speaker 4: was this was my career.
Speaker 2: Yeah, so this is my career ended.
Speaker 4: So I had this two cousins, right, they were meant
Speaker 4: to sing and lead songs, right, And I used to
Speaker 4: always hang with him. So the choir director felt like, okay,
Speaker 4: you know June and Pop always leading song. Let's let's
Speaker 4: let Stevie do you know get that I was about
Speaker 4: thirteen fourteen. Let's let's go and get him get a
Speaker 4: a part in the song.
Speaker 2: Right. So they was the ones that really was meant
Speaker 2: for this.
Speaker 4: They had all that right, they killing it. They could
Speaker 4: the preacher boy, so they leading the song they killed
Speaker 4: and they passed it to me. So this is my
Speaker 4: moment to show I belonged with them. And I tried
Speaker 4: the boy. Nothing came out, but I tried it again.
Speaker 4: I just had to pass the mic, so that you
Speaker 4: know what I'm saying. So like, it ain't meant for
Speaker 4: everybody church choir there was. It was church three clock service.
Speaker 2: It wasn't even the three o'clock service at another church.
Speaker 2: I tried to I didn't have it. That was pretty
Speaker 2: bad with it to huh oh, he coughed up a lookie, Yeah,
Speaker 2: it's basically what I did, And yeah, I tried. I
Speaker 2: tried that.
Speaker 4: I didn't have that. I just passed the mic. I
Speaker 4: just passed the mic. And that was the end of
Speaker 4: my singing career in the church choir.
Speaker 2: When you knew it wasn't meant for me. We had
Speaker 2: one star staying on TV too that was killing k C.
Speaker 2: She made us all think we could sing. We finally
Speaker 2: got a nigga that look like us every time of
Speaker 2: clothes man ship, I think we could all do it.
Speaker 2: All of light scared niggas killing me like I'll be sure.
Speaker 2: It was like dark scared niggas that ever shot in
Speaker 2: the dark held the bode. Nigga Ksey came out there,
Speaker 2: motherfucker with the hat backwards, with that big ass ving
Speaker 2: coming out of the deck. I said, nigga, I think
Speaker 2: I might have a shot.
Speaker 3: What was the scene like when you came out? Who
Speaker 3: was who was who at that time, whether the individuals
Speaker 3: or groups ship?
Speaker 2: Well, shit it was next there was a singer named
Speaker 2: Rome s w V h Ussher genuine. Uh, I remember
Speaker 2: room every time let's see you know. So competition was thick, bro,
Speaker 2: and uh, you know, I went to the gym and
Speaker 2: ship like I'm I'm try and find some muscles. Uh.
Speaker 2: It was I just I was just in this process
Speaker 2: man of just like unraveling and trying to discover everything
Speaker 2: in real time. I had no coaches. I had nobody
Speaker 2: sitting me down teaching me the game. And you know,
Speaker 2: I just had bits and pieces of moments. I figured
Speaker 2: out little communities like oh you saying, I say, we
Speaker 2: should you know, But when I when I think about
Speaker 2: like when you you know, when you upload videos and
Speaker 2: clips of your sons with the coach, the dribbling and
Speaker 2: just anything, and you're there as a legend NBA and
Speaker 2: you pouring into your your your twins, and you know
Speaker 2: it's like I ain't have the you know Teddy Pendergrass
Speaker 2: as your father, so you you singing as inevitable. I
Speaker 2: didn't have no nothing. So rather I ultimately made it
Speaker 2: or not, there was no gateway into you're gonna be
Speaker 2: successful because I did it and you're gonna do it
Speaker 2: better than me. It was I'm the alien of the family.
Speaker 2: I'm one of one of one. It never happened before
Speaker 2: me or after me. And imagine that pressure. And I'm
Speaker 2: still out here just fighting to maintain this unexpected gift.
Speaker 3: So yeah, fasten on the way, talk to us. What
Speaker 3: has been been like for you? As you talk to
Speaker 3: you know, living this dream. I mean to be in this,
Speaker 3: uh this series with this group of people for this
Speaker 3: long and continue to do it.
Speaker 2: Uh man, listen, man, God is God has a sense
Speaker 2: of humor. Yeah, there's no way anybody can tell me
Speaker 2: that my first movie would be Baby Boy. That was
Speaker 2: written for Pac. Pac was supposed to be Jody. He
Speaker 2: got killed in Vegas and John Singleton rest in peace,
Speaker 2: shelved Baby Boy and for Baby Boy to be my
Speaker 2: first movie, which is why I had pac on a
Speaker 2: mural in my bedroom. And then to go from Baby
Speaker 2: Boy to Too Fast, Too Furious, extremely hood and extremely
Speaker 2: white and mainstream, It's like, this is all crazy. So
Speaker 2: Ven Diesel and Paul obviously did part one, which I
Speaker 2: had nothing to do with. I came in for part two.
Speaker 2: The opportunity for part two only happened because they couldn't
Speaker 2: make a deal with Vin Diesel. I said, nigg, I
Speaker 2: do the shit for them. I do for that. I
Speaker 2: do this ship for a turkey sad with some cheese
Speaker 2: on itig like, this shit is incredible.
Speaker 3: Uh.
Speaker 2: And so when I got the phone call that you know,
Speaker 2: they couldn't make a deal with Van or the first
Speaker 2: director uh named Rob Cohen, that that that got the
Speaker 2: franchise off the ground. I was just like, wait, so
Speaker 2: you want me to do the whole movie opposite Paul
Speaker 2: the way Ven did the whole first one opposite Paul.
Speaker 2: That's crazy? Uh? And how did y'all make the connection
Speaker 2: that Jody Right couldn't do anything and it's got to
Speaker 2: do a roaman? Like it wasn't one white person in
Speaker 2: our movie. It was nothing about me that said pop
Speaker 2: mainstream crossover. I'm a I'm bigger. I'm three minutes ago.
Speaker 2: I was on in Watts, Like everything about my energy
Speaker 2: has nothing to do with white people, you know what
Speaker 2: I mean? Like, I'm like, you put me opposite the
Speaker 2: whitest white man. There is rest in peace to Paul,
Speaker 2: but he's the surfer. He's like literally that guy. And
Speaker 2: so my brain was like trying to make the connection.
Speaker 2: And then there's God again, just like I got all
Speaker 2: of this in mind for you, beyond anything that you
Speaker 2: could ever see or for see for yourself, and I'm
Speaker 2: just in autopilot, just like okay, you know so yeah, man,
Speaker 2: Like the first one came out twenty three years ago.
Speaker 2: Now we got Fast ten. So I did part two.
Speaker 2: I wasn't in three, I wasn't in four, and then
Speaker 2: me the rock all was in part five and I've
Speaker 2: done five, six, seven, eight, nine, ten, and we about
Speaker 2: to do two more. It's a gift that keeps gonna
Speaker 2: give him ship. I don't care if I'm in the
Speaker 2: movie for three minutes, but three hours changed my life ever.
Speaker 2: You know, it's it's uh, it's it's something else, bro.
Speaker 2: Like we just came back from Rome, during the International
Speaker 2: press junket. First time in the history of movie premieeres,
Speaker 2: they was at the actual coliseum as our backdrop. They
Speaker 2: just thought that ship was photoshop. I'm turning around like, man,
Speaker 2: you know, it's like it's all you took the legend Kimberly,
Speaker 2: which I seen that. Yes, sure, my mom passed. Shout
Speaker 2: out to her. Yeah, shout out to Kim. Mama, Kim,
Speaker 2: I love you changed my life. Man. Yeah, I was
Speaker 2: my mom's past last year, rest in peace on Valentine's
Speaker 2: Day of all days, And like, wow, so you give
Speaker 2: birth to an R and B singer and you die
Speaker 2: on the most romantic day in the world. I gotta
Speaker 2: process that one. That's that's heavy. But yeah, man, I
Speaker 2: you know, I had a real rocky relationship with my
Speaker 2: mom growing up. You know, she drank for like twenty
Speaker 2: seven years, and childhood was real crazy. But I loved
Speaker 2: it because I know she did her best and I
Speaker 2: was her fourth child and she could have decided I
Speaker 2: already got three, so yeah, and let me go on
Speaker 2: to get rid of him. So she she she pushed
Speaker 2: me out, two boys, two girls, and here I am.
Speaker 3: All the smoke in the flesh in the Flesh. Luda
Speaker 3: spoke to the closeness of that cast and crew that
Speaker 3: you guys are really like family off the camera. Can
Speaker 3: you speak to the importance of just them as people?
Speaker 2: Uh? Yeah, man, I mean it's definitely a vibe. I mean,
Speaker 2: I don't really know. Like when we all first started
Speaker 2: doing it, I feel like we all linked up way
Speaker 2: more often than we do now. But it's all love.
Speaker 2: Like it's like, the only thing I can connect it
Speaker 2: to is like, you ain't got no problem in none
Speaker 2: of your homies you grew up with, but you look
Speaker 2: forward to the class reunion every year, you know what
Speaker 2: I mean. So we texting, got a little text chain energy,
Speaker 2: and we all you know, the kids that get together
Speaker 2: for birthdays and certain holidays. But then we all on
Speaker 2: the set. Man, it feels like a real class reunion.
Speaker 2: And it's just it's hard to believe that we get
Speaker 2: as much as we get done because we laughing and
Speaker 2: joking and having so much fun. But we're all very clear, like, yeah,
Speaker 2: the money is flying, the champagne is flying, but we're
Speaker 2: under a lot of pressure because we're working on something
Speaker 2: that a lot of people are antis peyton and that
Speaker 2: ship could be very stressful, especially being around then, because
Speaker 2: he's definitely got at least ten more these motherfuckers in
Speaker 2: his head. Right now, you could talk to Van and
Speaker 2: you'd be like, yo, did you catch the last forty
Speaker 2: five minutes of what I just said? Because he's on
Speaker 2: some genius shit. He's way way he's already casting who's
Speaker 2: going to be in the next three yep to the
Speaker 2: yeah you's got to show up with Yeah, yeah, Roman ain't.
Speaker 2: Roman ain't went home yet. It was just I was like, lookah.
Speaker 3: Man, cousin Jesse.
Speaker 2: Yeah, we did the premiere fast ten. We got Roman
Speaker 2: in Rome. Shit, ain't nobody ever met my brother, my cousin.
Speaker 2: They never follow Roman home and then has actually been
Speaker 2: talking about that ship. He's like, yo, man, what is
Speaker 2: what is? What is Rome? Where does Rome live? I said, well,
Speaker 2: for one, we already established that me and Paul Walker
Speaker 2: from Barstow. There's hoods in Barstow, so you know, maybe
Speaker 2: we got to figure that out. Yeah, but yeah, it's
Speaker 2: uh they literally they was just it's been a couple
Speaker 2: of years of them having conversations about like where where
Speaker 2: does Rome and Tag live? You know, you see Van,
Speaker 2: it's dating Michelle we've already had kids, and he dating
Speaker 2: this girl with Chelle. You know, they unpacked the home life,
Speaker 2: but all the rest of us somehow end up in
Speaker 2: his backyard at the dinner table with where y'all niggas
Speaker 2: go from must the game from home? We always I
Speaker 2: appreciate the food, man, I got to count See y'all
Speaker 2: niggas don't want me my mama. So yeah, they been.
Speaker 2: They've been unpacking that conversation, man, and I think they're
Speaker 2: gonna get to it at some point.
Speaker 3: You ready, random question that just came to me. Forgive
Speaker 3: me and baby boy, when Snoop kicked your son's ford
Speaker 3: over said fuck your fort? Did your son ever tell you?
Speaker 3: Did your son ever tell you how you felt about
Speaker 3: Snoop kicking his fort down?
Speaker 2: I wasn't even on a set that day, for little nik,
Speaker 2: I wasn't on the set that day, man.
Speaker 5: I told you later. Yeah, that was a high thought
Speaker 5: forgetting No.
Speaker 2: No, no, we're good. We needed that. We needed that. No.
Speaker 2: I wasn't even on a set that day. Man, Oh
Speaker 2: my good.
Speaker 4: That's funny, man, you stupid bro, that's funny. Who like
Speaker 4: we had loud on the show today. Yeah, and he
Speaker 4: talked about John Singleton's greatness. Can you speak to that
Speaker 4: as well? Where do we start?
Speaker 2: Man? I mean I would describe John as a kindergarten
Speaker 2: teacher or a head start teacher. You know when you
Speaker 2: when when when you drop your baby off and they're
Speaker 2: getting their first round of class, froom and education. He
Speaker 2: had the patients as a filmmaker to teach you and
Speaker 2: show you everything that has to do with acting. Did
Speaker 2: it for qbe? Did it for two? I mean the
Speaker 2: list is thirty forty and it wasn't just the actors
Speaker 2: and that he put on the amount of camera operators.
Speaker 2: You know Ruth Carter who just won her second Oscar.
Speaker 2: She was our stylist, baby Boy. She was our stylist
Speaker 2: for Four Brothers Brothers Dope movie. Now she's designing and
Speaker 2: winning her second oscar for Black Panther. So John Singleton, man,
Speaker 2: he came here and God God used this man to
Speaker 2: change everything. Everything is different after he came and went.
Speaker 2: There's like all of us are still on. Regina King,
Speaker 2: Regina Hall, Cuba Gooding Jr. Lawrence Fishburne, it's everybody's yeah,
Speaker 2: Neil Long producing writing something and some executives that I
Speaker 2: mean Bro, he's got like thirty different forty people that's
Speaker 2: in the academy that's able to vote for who should
Speaker 2: win an Oscar. Bro. When I got to the set
Speaker 2: of Baby Boy, it was all black people in every
Speaker 2: category on the set. And then I went from Baby
Speaker 2: Boy to Too Fast, Too Furious, And because that was
Speaker 2: my introduction in Hollywood, I'm like steady, cam, lighting, grips, electron.
Speaker 2: All of these departments were all black people, and so
Speaker 2: he normalized. He's like, yo, if you're capable of doing
Speaker 2: the job, I'm not gonna exclude you. Because at the time,
Speaker 2: everything about excluding us from all departments was very real.
Speaker 2: So when you the boss and you can put your
Speaker 2: people on, that's very capable doing the job. Ain't on
Speaker 2: some niggas, You're like, look, you ain't that good. But
Speaker 2: it's like he like he's got there's some giants out here,
Speaker 2: you know that cut hair, do makeup and blah blah blah.
Speaker 2: So he just made sure that everybody in every department
Speaker 2: was on and uh. And then to go from that
Speaker 2: to my second movie, Too Fast, Too Furious, it was
Speaker 2: just like, wow, got it. He changed my life of him, man,
Speaker 2: Like I'm talking about I don't even I don't even
Speaker 2: understand why he had so much in mind for me. Man, Yo,
Speaker 2: you the one he used to always say, Man, you
Speaker 2: were mommy a park man you And I couldn't even
Speaker 2: process that because I think a part the way I
Speaker 2: think a part uh the way we all did here
Speaker 2: on the West Coast. But it was he just kept
Speaker 2: saying it. And then when I hung out with his
Speaker 2: mom's one time in North Carolina, uh, me and my
Speaker 2: ex was about to divorce, mother of my first child,
Speaker 2: and she was the godmother to my first daughter, Sheila,
Speaker 2: And we went to her ranch for like two weeks,
Speaker 2: and she was a chainsmoker, and she said to me
Speaker 2: ten times that I like, oh, did all these niggas
Speaker 2: running around here, all trying to sound like my son
Speaker 2: looked like my son? But you you the only one
Speaker 2: that really remind me of my son. And it's kind
Speaker 2: of scary. I know you didn't come here for that,
Speaker 2: but oh my god, you know. And just like hearing
Speaker 2: that and then making the connection that of all the
Speaker 2: people that John could have casted, he said, you remind
Speaker 2: me of And I didn't have the acting chops to
Speaker 2: justify him putting me in baby boy. I was baby boy.
Speaker 2: I'm number one on the call. Shit, I wasn't number three,
Speaker 2: number four. It's your first acting role. We're not gonna
Speaker 2: make you to starve, my nigga, pay your dues, and
Speaker 2: we're gonna give you a little walk on, see how
Speaker 2: you do, and then we'll give you a bigger role
Speaker 2: after I was baby boy. And it was because he
Speaker 2: made the connection the park. Now I'm not pox So
Speaker 2: before y'all niggas jump in my comics, just shut up,
Speaker 2: goofy ass niggas, right, niggas shut up right, you know.
Speaker 2: So it was, it was, it was, It was really interesting, man.
Speaker 2: It's like her, his mom said, you vocal, you outspoken.
Speaker 2: You know, you got some panther energy on you. You
Speaker 2: speak up and speak out about real shit that matters.
Speaker 2: You ain't afraid of somebody saying we ain't gonna hire
Speaker 2: you because you're trying to speak up on some shit
Speaker 2: going on in the hood. Police brutality, excessive force, and racism.
Speaker 2: Always been vocal and out spoken off top. And you know,
Speaker 2: when you first get on in Hollywood, you know they're
Speaker 2: in jeopardy of putting somebody like me on, you know,
Speaker 2: because you know what you're gonna say and how irresponsible
Speaker 2: are you even though you knew to this? Uh uh so, yeah, man,
Speaker 2: it was it was wild John Singleton, It's my forever
Speaker 2: hero man man changed my life forever, forever. Snoop Dogg.
Speaker 4: Yeah, I was working with him, And you have any
Speaker 4: funny stories from being on set with him? He came out,
Speaker 4: he came here and I think he had the longest
Speaker 4: episode maybe of all the smoke. He sat in there
Speaker 4: that same laid down and smoked for two hours and
Speaker 4: just told the stories. But you have any funny stories
Speaker 4: from him being on set?
Speaker 2: Uh? Fuck you for funny stories. I don't know if
Speaker 2: I have any funny stories, man. I mean when I'm
Speaker 2: around Snoop Nigga, I'm nervous. I'm star struck as a motherfucker.
Speaker 2: That's one of the big homies for real from your West. Like,
Speaker 2: you know, I don't care. I mean we be on
Speaker 2: FaceTime and ship. He'll call me out, what's up, nephew?
Speaker 2: Oh ship? You know, like I'm still a regular you
Speaker 2: know South Central Lad, Before there was a marvel Our
Speaker 2: super Heroes was them. They was doing shit that It's
Speaker 2: like the Impilors, the Girls, the parties, the pool parties,
Speaker 2: the smoking, the drinking, the life, the clicks to entorize
Speaker 2: to going to the concerts and seeing niggas sell out arenas.
Speaker 2: And we ain't had no idea what kind of money
Speaker 2: they was making, but shit, everything about what we was doing,
Speaker 2: beyond selling, banging, cripping and blooding, they created a you know,
Speaker 2: easy E. They was like, yo, you could rap, you
Speaker 2: could because I guess at the time I was too
Speaker 2: young to know, like everything about hip hop was on
Speaker 2: the East. So once once you know easy E and
Speaker 2: too Short and all that ship started happening for the West,
Speaker 2: it became some other ship that you know in the hood,
Speaker 2: be like, oh, man, nigga, maybe we can get on
Speaker 2: some rap ship and and and so yeah, man, I've
Speaker 2: done some legendary backyard parties at my crib. And every time, hey,
Speaker 2: Nigga'm gonna pull up on you, you know, I'd be like,
Speaker 2: and then he'll get out of his sprinter and I'm
Speaker 2: just like, it's like I hear music, you know, like
Speaker 2: fucking stoop man. So that I ain't got no funnies though,
Speaker 2: I just be nervous around it.
Speaker 3: Speak to you, to speak to your legendary back backyard parties,
Speaker 3: back in my good back of my gold days. I
Speaker 3: didn't grab a couple of a handful of man there, Yes, that's.
Speaker 2: Up, bro, I know I know what you're capable of.
Speaker 2: I know what you're capable of. Rachel was right forty
Speaker 2: the one man.
Speaker 3: That boy at the backyard lady, that was.
Speaker 4: Right, It was right, It was all the way right.
Speaker 4: Thousand and seven, you land a major role in Transformers.
Speaker 2: What was that? Like? Crazy?
Speaker 4: You still had the uh one of the Transformers in
Speaker 4: his crib not at the time, not at the time.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I got it all after but yeah my Transformer
Speaker 2: tattoo right there. Yeah, I grew up watching Transformers. Man,
Speaker 2: so you grew up watching the hot He's crazy, like I'm.
Speaker 2: They don't have to tell me nothing about Autobox Versus
Speaker 2: except the comments. It was Lucky Charles and telling them
Speaker 2: under rules this ship was crazy, like you want to
Speaker 2: you want me to talk? Yeah, that was like crazy, bro,
Speaker 2: like like I said, man, working with Michael Bay of course.
Speaker 2: Oh man, Oh, so here's a here's a Michael Bass story. Uh,
Speaker 2: let me think about this for a second. If I
Speaker 2: ever told this story publicly, gotta tell a quick Michael
Speaker 2: Bay's story. So, first thing, when we were doing uh,
Speaker 2: Too Fast, Too Furious. The whole Too Fast, Too Furious
Speaker 2: was filmed in Miami. Uh, and while we was doing
Speaker 2: Too Fast, Too Furious, they were shooting Bad Boys too,
Speaker 2: So Will Smith and Martin and I been knowing Martin
Speaker 2: because I did a guest appearance on Martin when he
Speaker 2: had a TV sitcom of all time. I stopped watching
Speaker 2: TV after that, married with children and ours I was
Speaker 2: number TV uh. So uh, I know him, love them both.
Speaker 2: They every time they would get around me over the years,
Speaker 2: they would always like, for whatever reason, just go above
Speaker 2: and beyond, just trying to put me up on game
Speaker 2: and protect me from myself. So I, you know, I
Speaker 2: hit Will. I got invited to the set of Bad Boys,
Speaker 2: and even though our budget was nice, that ship was
Speaker 2: crazy with what they was doing. Right. So fast forward
Speaker 2: the maloof Brothers opening their first hotel in Vegas. For
Speaker 2: the grand opening, they put like seventy five some celebs
Speaker 2: on on these private planes from LA just to be
Speaker 2: there for the grand opening. So literally, I get on
Speaker 2: the plane and I'm on this private joint just like,
Speaker 2: oh shit, private plane. It's crazy. And then right as
Speaker 2: the door was about to close, Michael Bay come walking
Speaker 2: on and I'm sitting there like, what the fuck is
Speaker 2: going on? I know exactly who the fuck this guy
Speaker 2: is sitting here. I'm talking about man, I'm talking about
Speaker 2: right here on the plane. So I'm sitting there, shook
Speaker 2: his hand, cool vibe. He remember me from coming to
Speaker 2: the set Will and Martin and then h I asked
Speaker 2: him a question. I was like, let me ask you something, man,
Speaker 2: are you aware of how many people in Hollywood say
Speaker 2: you're like arrogant? You iss you had and this, And
Speaker 2: I guess the question was like the last thing he
Speaker 2: expected me to ask him, But you can tell just
Speaker 2: on some real shit. He was like, Yo, I appreciate
Speaker 2: you asking me a real ask question instead of like
Speaker 2: sitting there telling me how much you love the movies
Speaker 2: I've done. That was like, so our whole hour flight
Speaker 2: was about just chopping it up about some real shit,
Speaker 2: like what people think of you versus what you think
Speaker 2: of yourself. What is is what you said and what
Speaker 2: you did, what you responsible for, blah blah blah. That
Speaker 2: was the gist of it. And it was love. It
Speaker 2: was all love. So then I get to the lobby
Speaker 2: and I've never hung out with dude. I was on
Speaker 2: the set. He was in go mode, you know, genius director,
Speaker 2: big action guy. Everything is a thousand miles an hour
Speaker 2: in his head, you know, and so seeing him when
Speaker 2: he's out of game mode, he's a whole nother person,
Speaker 2: very cool, sociable. So I get to the front desk
Speaker 2: to check in, and as I'm walking through the lobby
Speaker 2: because it's the grand opening, all these women was in
Speaker 2: the lobby in Vegas and without me noticing, by the
Speaker 2: time I got to the front desk, I lon't must
Speaker 2: have turned around. It was like thirty of them gawking
Speaker 2: and looking, and Michael Bay walked up to me. It's like,
Speaker 2: hey man, wow, you know, like he really got excited
Speaker 2: about all this energy that was around me, and my
Speaker 2: brain was like my brain was like huh mo, nigga,
Speaker 2: you know what I mean, Like like if this is
Speaker 2: if this is what? If this is what you own?
Speaker 2: I do? This is what I do? You know? This
Speaker 2: is easy? You know. I'm like, I'm the R and
Speaker 2: B nigga. Turn active, Nigga. I got juice is following
Speaker 2: me this all day. So I'm I'm seeing the excitement
Speaker 2: that he's feeling about the energy around and I ain't
Speaker 2: fin the city and say I arranged anything because I
Speaker 2: ain't that nigga, but it was it was really like
Speaker 2: and I was like, and then literally at the front desk,
Speaker 2: was not the plan, but I felt his energy. I said, Yo, man,
Speaker 2: I got some girls coming up. Man, dreams is real.
Speaker 2: Low key, man, you ain't doing nothing, pull up right right,
Speaker 2: It's like. And then he was like, you know, what's
Speaker 2: what's your room number? I got the key. I was like,
Speaker 2: you know, blah blah blah, four or five, whatever it was.
Speaker 2: And then I was like, man, they ain't coming. You know,
Speaker 2: he ain't no fucking way, you know, man, listen, I
Speaker 2: literally it's the funniest shit, Michael. See this clip. He
Speaker 2: gonna be like you, I've.
Speaker 5: Never told nobody he got there before you.
Speaker 2: So I'm literally in the room right. I swear to god,
Speaker 2: it was at least thirty chicks in there. I didn't
Speaker 2: tell them they needed to do anything. I just said, look, man,
Speaker 2: if this man knocking my door when he come upstairs,
Speaker 2: y'all got one job and one job on it. To
Speaker 2: just make him feel like the most incredible motherfucker you've
Speaker 2: ever met. And I said, look, man, I want y'all
Speaker 2: to know there is nobody in the history of cinema
Speaker 2: who knows how to film and capture women the way
Speaker 2: Michael Bay do on some victorious secrets. They're shooting him
Speaker 2: campaign for thirty years, blah blah blah. So they all
Speaker 2: up in there like the and I'm like, yo, he
Speaker 2: actually specialized and putting random women on. He don't necessarily
Speaker 2: need to be with a supermodel. He don't go for
Speaker 2: the established. He'll go and find some brand new, bad
Speaker 2: shit and make him look nigga. They was up in
Speaker 2: that motherfucker Like damn. They're just like, well, thank you
Speaker 2: for the opportunity. I'm like, I'm like, he gonna be happy.
Speaker 2: They ain't got with me. He gonna be way happy
Speaker 2: to see y'all way to get up here. So hey, man,
Speaker 2: y'all ain't gotta do shit. Literally, this ain't no prostitution,
Speaker 2: Like I ain't. I don't play them games and I
Speaker 2: do shit. Which nothing did go down. Man. Drinks, girls
Speaker 2: put some music on, vibe had a nice little sweet
Speaker 2: It wasn't nothing crazy, and like an hour go by,
Speaker 2: I'm walking, I'm pacing in my room. Man, but bo
Speaker 2: but but bok, and I swear, man, I almost want
Speaker 2: to get up and reenact this shit with the cameras
Speaker 2: on me. But like, if the peep hole was hit,
Speaker 2: I was like, I was like, like it was like
Speaker 2: a move, like, oh ship, yo. If this fuck is
Speaker 2: almost solidless door, when I look through his people, it's over.
Speaker 2: It's over. So I went look to the people. Fuck yo,
Speaker 2: hell no good right y'all already y'r niggas Action Bro
Speaker 2: opened the door, came in. You know he always got
Speaker 2: his little shirt just about right here. You know, you
Speaker 2: know he's missing Miami twenty. Hey, hey, man, you know
Speaker 2: you want him to dream of it. They went. They
Speaker 2: went full on flirting, like, don't worry about me, just
Speaker 2: make sure he feels amazing when he gets here. Man,
Speaker 2: they hit that thing so far out the park. Next thing,
Speaker 2: you know, got each other's number. He invited me to
Speaker 2: a Christmas party that's up the street by the way
Speaker 2: here in Santa Monica, and uh hung out with him.
Speaker 2: He said, hey, man, uh, I got this movie I'm
Speaker 2: about to do. I'm thinking about doing it. You know.
Speaker 2: Steven Spielberg hit me up and he's mentioning the Spielberg
Speaker 2: like this normal. I'm like Spielberg, you know, he wanted
Speaker 2: to direct it, and he was like, you maybe you
Speaker 2: should do it. He's like, what do you think man?
Speaker 2: I said, Transformers, Man, you that's best childhood for me.
Speaker 2: And he's like, yeah, yeah, you think I should do it?
Speaker 2: Like fuck, yeah, man, it'll be crazy. He's talking to
Speaker 2: me like as if me saying he should do it
Speaker 2: is going to actually make him do it. I'm like, well, shit,
Speaker 2: you're gonna ask me. Yeah, so then and what else
Speaker 2: should do? You should put me in it too? Yeah?
Speaker 2: Then he said this was funny. He said, uh, He's like, yeah,
Speaker 2: what you doing movie like that? Like yeah, I'm trying.
Speaker 2: I'm like, I'm so fucking fired up and I'm trying
Speaker 2: to play it cool like eh, man, like that, it's crazy.
Speaker 2: I grew up on that, man, be crazy. You would
Speaker 2: kill that shit if you did it. And then he
Speaker 2: said yeah, yeah, yeah, are you funny? I said, yeah, yeah, yeah,
Speaker 2: I'm funny. I don't I mean, I can't really tell
Speaker 2: you I'm funny, but I you know, yeah, I've been
Speaker 2: known to keep niggas attention to tell a good joke
Speaker 2: of too you so, and so he invited me back
Speaker 2: to his office. I walked in his office. The whole
Speaker 2: room was full of images. It's all computer generator. It's
Speaker 2: all of these images of the cars and the Bumblebee
Speaker 2: before and after that, you know, the Optimist trying truck
Speaker 2: and all of these images. And he's like, come in, man,
Speaker 2: and I'm looking. I'm like, what the you know, I'm
Speaker 2: looking at my childhood. So he wanted to cast me
Speaker 2: in the first Transformers to play Bernie Mack, the car
Speaker 2: salesman who sold Shy of Labuff's character the first Bumblebee
Speaker 2: if anybody seen it, that was supposed to be me,
Speaker 2: Bernie Mack. And after hanging out with him several times,
Speaker 2: he literally swept. He literally created the role Nest and
Speaker 2: had me with Josh Dummel the soldiers, and we ended
Speaker 2: up doing three Transformers. I would have been grateful for
Speaker 2: the Bernie Mac role, but for him to be like, yo,
Speaker 2: I really like you. You a good guy, Like he literally
Speaker 2: out the sky. We had nothing to do to the storyline.
Speaker 2: He created the Transformers soldiers that work and rock with
Speaker 2: Shia Labuff's character and all of that shit. Happened from
Speaker 2: an airplane ride, and all these women at the fucking hotel.
Speaker 2: What's the name of Hodel the palm, the palm.
Speaker 3: They did the job.
Speaker 2: They put me on my damn lad ye yeah, yeah,
Speaker 2: yeah yeah. If y'all see this.
Speaker 3: Interview, thank you.
Speaker 4: What fans are the most lawyers? Transformers are fast and furious.
Speaker 2: Uh well, I don't do transformers no more so. It's
Speaker 2: definitely fast. I got three out of it. I hope
Speaker 2: I can do it again. Man, that'd be crazy to
Speaker 2: run that back. But my focus right now, honestly, man,
Speaker 2: I'm on my music. Shit. Man, it's been ten years
Speaker 2: since I dropped an album. You know. My last album
Speaker 2: is called Black Rose, and I've been in the studio. Man,
Speaker 2: just like really like, it's hard for me to accept
Speaker 2: that the year is twenty twenty three right now. I'm
Speaker 2: in sixty eight. Right now, in my head, I'm I
Speaker 2: was just that the club last night, Studio fifty four,
Speaker 2: Marvin Gaye, Teddy, Michael Jackson just played a new song
Speaker 2: last night and shut the club down. That's where my
Speaker 2: head is. I'm like, I'm literally in the seventies, tapping
Speaker 2: into that vintage retro R and B Soul. You know,
Speaker 2: my album is called Beautiful Pain. So I've been I've
Speaker 2: been in the studio just in you know, it's almost
Speaker 2: like method acting. I'm like deep deep in my R
Speaker 2: and B bag right now, R and B Soul bag,
Speaker 2: Like nobody could tell me that Barry Gordy wasn't just
Speaker 2: at my house last night.
Speaker 3: I mean, how you've being in the spotlight a lot
Speaker 3: of your private problems become public, similar to.
Speaker 2: Me, all of us.
Speaker 3: What is it? What have you learned? I guess from that?
Speaker 3: Can you laugh? I mean they created a meme? Can
Speaker 3: you laugh about stuff like that? What have you learned?
Speaker 3: I mean I'm someone very similar where my divorce was
Speaker 3: public and what happened after was public, and then my
Speaker 3: fight for my kids was public. You know, obviously you've
Speaker 3: gone through some of those struggles and although it should
Speaker 3: be private moments, it's public moments, so everyone is picking
Speaker 3: at and saying what should and shouldn't happen. How have
Speaker 3: you kind of learned and navigating kind of made yourself
Speaker 3: better from those experiences.
Speaker 2: I'm glad you brought that up, man, because I think
Speaker 2: us as black men, we don't talk about it as
Speaker 2: much as we should because you know, the story of
Speaker 2: my life with all of my interviews has been it's
Speaker 2: crazy how women will come down on us about not talking,
Speaker 2: not communicating, not expressing any of their feelings and sentiments,
Speaker 2: and then as soon as we do that, now we
Speaker 2: soft moaning, bitch and crime whatever. You know. It's like,
Speaker 2: damn if you do, damn if you don't. So I've
Speaker 2: always been beyond expressive, written two books, I got fucking
Speaker 2: YouTube videos in the thousands with my motivational inspirational videos
Speaker 2: that I put out, just like getting it off of me.
Speaker 2: The truth is, y'all come from the world of sports.
Speaker 2: There's nothing about my life that comes with a sports
Speaker 2: announcer talking about it. Well. Tyreese's performance comes in at
Speaker 2: a strong ten the last performance with it. He had
Speaker 2: tried it, but he didn't Land. I don't deal with
Speaker 2: that As an R and B nigga. We deal with
Speaker 2: radio host and on air personalities. But everything about this
Speaker 2: life that I live, I am growing up in real
Speaker 2: time and I am figuring it out. I'm bumping my head,
Speaker 2: I'm falling, I'm making mistake, I'm up, I'm down, I'm sad,
Speaker 2: I'm confused, I'm wondering like who the fucking why, and
Speaker 2: wondering like, did you really just get in a whole
Speaker 2: relationship and just fake the whole shit to get a
Speaker 2: baby out of it? When I got in this shit
Speaker 2: for real, to do it for the rest of my life. Bro,
Speaker 2: I took my wedding band off and I was light
Speaker 2: skinning under my finger. Man, dang, I.
Speaker 3: Think the worst thing.
Speaker 2: No, it's not, no, but I'm just saying for him
Speaker 2: to say that though I never took my shit off,
Speaker 2: man like fully in it. And uh so my single
Speaker 2: entitled I Don't Think You Ever Loved Me featuring Lenny Kravitz. Man,
Speaker 2: you know, I probably didn't even know I had a song.
Speaker 2: I want you all to hear it all streaming platforms, Apple, Spotify,
Speaker 2: I Don't Think You Ever Loved Me featuring Lenny Kravitz.
Speaker 2: You know, I was with her for five years, we
Speaker 2: was married almost three, didn't even get to three, and
Speaker 2: then she just pulled the plug on the marriage. And
Speaker 2: I'm literally over here just seeing my whole shit go
Speaker 2: up and smoke, and I'm over here pulling out a
Speaker 2: human calculator, just trying to add it all up. And
Speaker 2: you know, my whole thing has always been I've never
Speaker 2: been the kind of entertainer or public figure that wants
Speaker 2: to sell you on the success of it all. I'm
Speaker 2: gonna tell you everything. Don't don't look up to me
Speaker 2: because of the shiny building. Don't don't love me because
Speaker 2: of the drophead, love the nigga in the car that
Speaker 2: happens to be driving to drop head. It's always been
Speaker 2: just the opposite for me. I got the shit that's
Speaker 2: gonna make everybody like yo. That's but I want you
Speaker 2: to say, Yo, that's a man of integrity. He's honest.
Speaker 2: He allows himself to be vulnerable and go into those
Speaker 2: uncomfortable conversations that most people never feel safe with having,
Speaker 2: and and and you know most people, first of us
Speaker 2: us as men, we've been forced to shut up. You know,
Speaker 2: women have went above and beyond to express themselves and
Speaker 2: be expressive, and we don't really feel safe with talking
Speaker 2: about our actual feelings, childhood traumas, the shit we've seen
Speaker 2: when exposed to them, places that we could all slip into,
Speaker 2: knowing that the answer is not in a medicine bottle.
Speaker 2: Sometimes Jesus ain't enough for us, you know what I mean?
Speaker 2: With what we're feeling, and the concept of Jesus is like, well,
Speaker 2: how do I apply that into And then I'm like,
Speaker 2: got it, got it? Because it's confusing. I don't wake
Speaker 2: up with no ill will and no malicious intent. You
Speaker 2: would expect a nigga with money, power, access to the streets,
Speaker 2: to corporate America, to the lawyers. You would expect me
Speaker 2: to be the one to say I got the power
Speaker 2: and I'm gonna become abusive with my power. But I
Speaker 2: find myself being on the receiving end of what nigga's
Speaker 2: trying to do to me, and I'm like, damn, I
Speaker 2: got the power to do it to you and probably
Speaker 2: can get away with it, but I don't have them intentions.
Speaker 2: So it makes dealing with these type of things in
Speaker 2: real time it hits you harder because I'm like, damn,
Speaker 2: what I could do, I don't do, But then everybody
Speaker 2: seems to be doing. I'm not sitting there playing victim.
Speaker 2: But it's crazy, man. Uh And yeah that's that's my answer. Man,
Speaker 2: Like I at these California courtess on some funck ship
Speaker 2: like one hundred, Like man, listen, man, uh uh, get
Speaker 2: married out of state, have your baby out of state
Speaker 2: and y'all come live out here all you want, but
Speaker 2: uh don't, don't do it. You know that that this
Speaker 2: sold master on one eleven Hill Street. Fuck your life up.
Speaker 3: Jack, got all of us who you think pay the
Speaker 3: most child support?
Speaker 2: Me? By fo you close? Man? Where are you at?
Speaker 2: Where you at? Where you at?
Speaker 3: You got eleven kids?
Speaker 2: I got no, I don't, I don't. You gotta left gear.
Speaker 2: We got to talk about that now.
Speaker 4: I got I got five girls, two boys. But I
Speaker 4: paid eighteen five for one. This is one child in California.
Speaker 4: I paid eighteen five for one child for my in
Speaker 4: big career.
Speaker 2: Eighteen five. This is one child that's fucked up.
Speaker 4: So yeah, you got six more of them around the
Speaker 4: range to.
Speaker 2: Your God is good. He blessed me with enough. Yeah yeah, yeah, yeah,
Speaker 2: but he's not supposed to bless you to give it away,
Speaker 2: not at all, not at all, because yeah, see that's
Speaker 2: the positive spin on it. God is good. Yeah, yeah,
Speaker 2: month when I got to go out, Man, that's some bullshit, bro,
Speaker 2: because we already know that if we actually talking about
Speaker 2: the actual needs of the child, it's not being met,
Speaker 2: it's all. It's it's beyond being met. So you know
Speaker 2: that that that bag is not for the child extracurricular activities.
Speaker 4: Man, l a boy, I tell you killers and boat
Speaker 4: TX they be doing on this.
Speaker 3: The summer I retired after I was done playing, I
Speaker 3: stayed outfit. Uh. I stayed up in Beverly Hills. And
Speaker 3: that's that's the point of my story. So I ran
Speaker 3: into Russell Simmons and me and him started hanging out,
Speaker 3: and I really pissed the idea to have like a
Speaker 3: child support car like he had the rush card, And
Speaker 3: I'm like, you need to create a car where you
Speaker 3: have to see like every time they swipe, it has
Speaker 3: to you see the receipts, so it sees if it
Speaker 3: goes towards the children. And I really pissed that ship
Speaker 3: to remember what happened to them. Yeah, but if someone,
Speaker 3: if someone could think of that, if someone could come
Speaker 3: up with that, just give me a little cut.
Speaker 2: Of that, know how about? Yeah we call that ship
Speaker 2: uh man has done so the child support You got
Speaker 2: to see all that, man, my child support payment. It
Speaker 2: gets wired onto the car and every time you wiped,
Speaker 2: you get to see see what's happened. Someone can make
Speaker 2: that because that eighteen five I ain't got no noble
Speaker 2: and malleable vibe on that.
Speaker 3: Because the kids ain't coming in with no person who
Speaker 3: knows shoes.
Speaker 2: Yeah, that shi it hurt, bro. And then you go
Speaker 2: up in the courtroom. It don't matter what receipts, what
Speaker 2: paper trail, what you show up with to prove that
Speaker 2: you got to cut that check, regardless that I'm gonna
Speaker 2: tell you, man, a man, I'm still bleeding. I'm bleeding
Speaker 2: right now. I see your blood up.
Speaker 3: And I met you.
Speaker 2: I met you to drops. But imagine, imagine, don't matter
Speaker 2: NBA or single actor, imagine that this is common knowledge.
Speaker 2: You walk into the courtroom and if you was born
Speaker 2: a man, you gotta preset McDonald's, man, you're gonna get
Speaker 2: the shafting balls, tax returns, fuck you and anything you
Speaker 2: gotta say. Now when you ain't getting no money, you're
Speaker 2: dead beat. But then when you getting money, you get fucked.
Speaker 2: Damn if you do, damn you don't. And what you're
Speaker 2: gonna do going in and then cry about it? Now
Speaker 2: we're gonna laugh at you. What more do you want
Speaker 2: from me? I want my soul back, motherfucking just like
Speaker 2: I want to. I'm always gonna take care of mine.
Speaker 2: I'm not with her no more, ain't no way my
Speaker 2: baby need all that. I know what we was doing
Speaker 2: for her while we were together. So what you about
Speaker 2: to do with all that monthly that we wasn't doing
Speaker 2: for the baby monthly? When I'm the nigga with the bag,
Speaker 2: the baby never had eighteen five worth of anything per month.
Speaker 2: Think about it. Me and my wife or me and
Speaker 2: my girl never spent eighteen five on the baby while
Speaker 2: we were together. So you suddenly about to spend eighteen
Speaker 2: five because you're with the baby by yourself?
Speaker 3: My go cold game.
Speaker 2: It's a cold game.
Speaker 3: You better wear a jacket.
Speaker 2: Uh, it's more than that quick hitters's what's the pill
Speaker 2: that they take them stop themselves getting praised? What's that
Speaker 2: birth control? Yeah? We did. We need to figure that out.
Speaker 3: They got the mail one. Now to do with the beer?
Speaker 3: Takes it?
Speaker 2: With the beer takes it? Okay, you look a little
Speaker 2: light headed, you've been drinking waters. You're gonna take that,
Speaker 2: but they'll tell this about the side effects.
Speaker 4: I'm a mean that gonna stop no matter.
Speaker 3: Look man power for that all love, piece of love.
Speaker 2: But that's why they do this podcast a safe place
Speaker 2: for us to talk about this and one thing. You know,
Speaker 2: me and him haven't been through it.
Speaker 3: Yea, I should have been all over the world, all
Speaker 3: over the Yeah, that's the every day I walk around.
Speaker 3: I mean, anytime I post on that, there's still gonna
Speaker 3: be comments for like the rest of my life.
Speaker 2: Just public.
Speaker 3: I've been hit you every once in a while. Bro,
Speaker 3: just check it in on your help me and we love.
Speaker 2: We can never assume I pulled up on him.
Speaker 4: Have you ever been on the walk? I've never. I've
Speaker 4: never been on a walk like around the neighborhood. I
Speaker 4: just but this ship was different though. So I go
Speaker 4: to this house. He's like, first when I get there,
Speaker 4: I think the last first. When I get there, it
Speaker 4: is the first one I hit. So etail me to
Speaker 4: come over, the first one I get. As soon as
Speaker 4: I hit the dose, somebody stop up, go this way
Speaker 4: over here. You got to take the COVID test.
Speaker 2: He hit me up and said, yo, I really want
Speaker 2: to get up on this act and ship. Man, I
Speaker 2: really want to chop it up. So I say, yo, bro,
Speaker 2: I'm one of them niggas that will overshare. I'm not
Speaker 2: threatening insecure about no other man getting in this game.
Speaker 2: So instead of you like me getting on the movie set,
Speaker 2: winging it, bumping your head and make mistakes. Let's really
Speaker 2: chop it up about what you're trying to do, because
Speaker 2: there's a lot of ways to go about it. So
Speaker 2: he pulled up and that go ahead, and so I do.
Speaker 2: I do my COVID test and all that.
Speaker 4: You know what I'm saying that nose, Yes, yes, a
Speaker 4: couple of different They did one q T.
Speaker 2: They got it. They got it.
Speaker 3: They will tell me your ship get it faster.
Speaker 2: I forgot what I was saying. COVID test.
Speaker 4: Oh yeah, COVID testing. To take the COVID tests. And
Speaker 4: I talk to him, sit down whatever. He's like, let's
Speaker 4: let's go talk to just takes a walk. So this
Speaker 4: is the whole reason. So I walked around the block
Speaker 4: growing up.
Speaker 2: I actually walked the people house. I'm gonna take a walk.
Speaker 2: This was a real walk, bro. Let me tell you why.
Speaker 4: If all the trees was green, all the houses were nice,
Speaker 4: and we landed in the park where it was just
Speaker 4: one bitch and it's just green everywhere.
Speaker 2: I'm like, this nigga taken me to heaven? Did this
Speaker 2: nigga take me all the walk in heaven. That's my
Speaker 2: nigga from childhood. Bro. I literally just took him over
Speaker 2: with what we ended up on that bench.
Speaker 4: Right that was I was like, okay, so this is
Speaker 4: what people mean when they say let's take a walk.
Speaker 2: That was a real walk. It was very refreshing. I
Speaker 2: learned a lot. It was mental health, it was. But
Speaker 2: that's what they usually do on the golf course. Because
Speaker 2: I don't play golf. You don't get around the birds
Speaker 2: and the chirping in the little lakes and creeks, and
Speaker 2: so in my neighborhood, I live in Buckhead and landed
Speaker 2: cribs is ridiculous. And they got these big ass yards
Speaker 2: and all the way up there with the big old front,
Speaker 2: you know. And so I'm like, yo, man, one thing
Speaker 2: about where I live and ain't some security everywhere, but
Speaker 2: it's safe. It's private. And for the first time ever
Speaker 2: in my life, it don't matter how long I been on,
Speaker 2: I ain't never been able to take a walk in
Speaker 2: my neighborhood since I been on and I go here,
Speaker 2: it's not like we went a mile and it was
Speaker 2: like it was there. We made a hard left and
Speaker 2: then and that ain't even the park. That's what's crazy.
Speaker 2: That's somebody's yard. Yard. That's how big the yard is.
Speaker 2: I said, man, went, I was like, yo, I normally
Speaker 2: sit right here on this bench. Man, it's surrounded by
Speaker 2: trees and green and get my thoughts together, walk right
Speaker 2: back to the crib. So the whole time we was walking,
Speaker 2: I was just trying to chop it up and really
Speaker 2: put my nigga up on game about this acting shit, man,
Speaker 2: you know, shit man, It's like, yeah, we're supposed to
Speaker 2: sit there at the table, five plays this and that
Speaker 2: and no, that was way better. That was way better.
Speaker 2: Chopping it up. Man, it's my favorite walk. I know
Speaker 2: what it means.
Speaker 3: Now, yeah, walk all right, quick hitters. First thing to
Speaker 3: come to mind. I mean obviously through your your music,
Speaker 3: you're acting, you've seen a lot of places you've been
Speaker 3: around the world. Three favorite cities.
Speaker 2: Man, I'm I'm still I ain't still ain't recovered from Miami.
Speaker 2: Miami's probably Miami is probably top of my list. Second
Speaker 2: is Brazil for all the right reasons. Uh my god,
Speaker 2: my god. I heard yeah, yeah, you heard. It's crazy. Yeah,
Speaker 2: all the ship were excited about on TV, just like
Speaker 2: Brazil is. If you ever thinking about getting married, settling down,
Speaker 2: just do yourself a favor, get that out of your system,
Speaker 2: and then get to the crib and say, I'm gonna
Speaker 2: do this for the rest of my life. But ooh,
Speaker 2: I'm glad I was able to star. I'm saying that
Speaker 2: to every real nigga. I here, watch it, like you know,
Speaker 2: go live it. It ain't that expensive. It's like four hundred
Speaker 2: thirty dollars in coach. You got it round trip. It's shit,
Speaker 2: best shit in life. But yeah, between Miami and Brazil, Uh,
Speaker 2: my favorite place on earth right now because I'm on
Speaker 2: some super privacy. When I take a break, I don't
Speaker 2: want to see people movement nothing. I'm heavy on my
Speaker 2: Turks and Caicos right now. Heavy. I don't want to
Speaker 2: see nothing nobody. I take my hookah, Nigga, I be
Speaker 2: sitting on my balcony. I don't go. I'm Turks and Caicos.
Speaker 2: I swear man, I might we might be three masks
Speaker 2: away from me saying fuck America. I'm out. I'm gonna
Speaker 2: be out there with a big ass stomach with a
Speaker 2: monkey name bubbles. Nigga like this fuck this shit like
Speaker 2: it's it's it's you gotta you like, I'm in my
Speaker 2: grown man bag heavy, Like, man, how do you feel
Speaker 2: I'm not okay? Every time I go to Turks, whatever
Speaker 2: level of drain, my shit just always recharges. And I promise, man,
Speaker 2: Turks is it? Turks? Is it if you ain't never
Speaker 2: been bless yourself? It's only two hour flight from Atlanta
Speaker 2: to That's what I love.
Speaker 4: I'm like, out, what's the craziest fan in the action
Speaker 4: you've had?
Speaker 2: I had a girl in my hotel room in Houston,
Speaker 2: found out where I was staying, went to the front desk,
Speaker 2: convinced the nigga at the front desk that a key
Speaker 2: was supposed to be in her name. She was already
Speaker 2: upstairs ready to go when.
Speaker 3: I walked the question did you go or did you
Speaker 3: send her home?
Speaker 2: I got out of there. That was That was a
Speaker 2: little scary for anybody that's determined. You definitely got a
Speaker 2: lot of got Yeah you really you you you? What
Speaker 2: do you call it premeditated? Yeah? Yeah, shi, it is
Speaker 2: way too you convincing they at the front desk, Yeah,
Speaker 2: I'm just Tyrese is staying here. I know what he called.
Speaker 2: You know, last name check is so you call it
Speaker 2: in my name? None of that ship was real. She
Speaker 2: was in the room. Yeah, it's crazy, that's crazy.
Speaker 3: If you could have a billboard with a message, uh,
Speaker 3: message saying slogan for the world to see, what would
Speaker 3: it be ship?
Speaker 2: How many buzz with the window?
Speaker 4: We were like, oh, yeah, you got the key I
Speaker 4: left you?
Speaker 2: What was slogan? Uh? I really feel this overwhelming sense
Speaker 2: to give it all away, not on some charity shit
Speaker 2: like cutting checks and you know the way I post,
Speaker 2: the way I communicate everything about this interview, there's somebody
Speaker 2: that's gonna hear something and be like, oh, nigga, he
Speaker 2: made it possibly made me think it was possible because
Speaker 2: the way he just steal regular still just you know
Speaker 2: something about what I do and the way I do it.
Speaker 2: I have this overwhelming sense of responsibility to just give
Speaker 2: somebody permission to go get it without you know, I
Speaker 2: don't don't be inspired by chains and yo he a
Speaker 2: real but you know, so I would say the billboard
Speaker 2: would say me today, you tomorrow, and I believe that
Speaker 2: without being threatened or insecure about Yo, you put me
Speaker 2: up on And I flipped that shit and turned into
Speaker 2: if we ain't both pulling up in the rose Roy's bruh.
Speaker 2: We ain't both in a mansion mansion hopping. If we
Speaker 2: ain't yo you, what's the tale number? You know? If
Speaker 2: we ain't on that, what the fuck are we doing? You know?
Speaker 2: And I like, I really really want everybody to believe
Speaker 2: that it's possible to get it. And wherever you at,
Speaker 2: you know what I mean, Like it might be fuck,
Speaker 2: it might be dark. It made like everything is pulling
Speaker 2: you down, and you like thinking the inevitable is but man,
Speaker 2: the Lord Jesus Christ is my Lord and savior. Yeah,
Speaker 2: and there is nothing about what you feeling, carrying and
Speaker 2: dealing with right now that has anything to do with
Speaker 2: the outcome of all that God has in mind for you.
Speaker 2: If you don't believe that, just stay at it, stayed
Speaker 2: the course. It ain't enough handsome, ain't enough jokes. I
Speaker 2: don't know enough hood niggas. I ain't got nothing to
Speaker 2: connect to nothing because my brain is like, wow, so
Speaker 2: God had all of this in mind for me and
Speaker 2: I'm out here just winging it, trying to understand it
Speaker 2: all as it's happening, you know, and wow, this is
Speaker 2: what all of this and it's still happening. Unbelieve even
Speaker 2: sitting there with y'all. Man, this is like I've seen
Speaker 2: y'all podcasts for years. I'm just sitting here on the couch,
Speaker 2: unbelieve appreciate it. So yeah, man, that's that's kind of it. Bro,
Speaker 2: question who would you like to see on our show?
Speaker 4: But before you answer that, you have to help us
Speaker 4: get your answer on the show.
Speaker 2: I'm getting good with that question. Yeah. So you're saying,
Speaker 2: who would I like to see on the show? And
Speaker 2: can I help y'all to get the person on the show.
Speaker 4: Whether you choose that you want to see on our show,
Speaker 4: you have to help us get them on the show.
Speaker 2: All right? Uh? Will Smith been on here already? Yep, Yeah,
Speaker 2: I've seen that episode. Uh yeah, Denzelzel.
Speaker 4: So you the second person that said Denzel, So we
Speaker 4: need both of y'all to hit.
Speaker 2: Him on this.
Speaker 4: You know what I'm saying personal line on the on
Speaker 4: the just on the on the training day line.
Speaker 2: Because I know lones are gonna pull up. He wasn't
Speaker 2: no punk niggas show. Because I know where your heart
Speaker 2: is at with the acting ship. I think you need
Speaker 2: to start inviting more actors on here. I have the dialogue.
Speaker 2: You know, niggas in the real estate. They need to
Speaker 2: start interviewing folks that's in the world that you're trying
Speaker 2: to get in, because the wisdom and the knowledge gives
Speaker 2: you the insight to be able to say, oh yo,
Speaker 2: I didn't really think it as possible until somebody just
Speaker 2: broke that ship down and made it all so simple,
Speaker 2: like it was so much more difficult in my mind
Speaker 2: to get to that. And then he just blah, blood man,
Speaker 2: I'd the best teacher. That's free Game merch name of
Speaker 2: my new podcast.
Speaker 6: He handed my rather all the suffere and you can
Speaker 6: get that you you you you are you can you
Speaker 6: people out there at all the smoke down store, you
Speaker 6: can be ass flyers Me and Matt and now black
Speaker 6: Tie Man Weed Whacker.
Speaker 3: Yeah you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 2: Yep, I got y know, I think I got yeah
Speaker 2: this appreciation. Yeah, you know what I'm saying. Hey, man,
Speaker 2: Before oh why I go, man, I got to ask
Speaker 2: you all a question man, for real, man, I gotta
Speaker 2: ask you all a question man, because crazy thing is
Speaker 2: I'm not gonna sit in and painting.
Speaker 1: No.
Speaker 2: Me and Kobe were the best the Homies picture because
Speaker 2: that's not the story. But we both got on around
Speaker 2: the same year. You know, I remember because Brandy the
Speaker 2: singer Brandy and our best of friends since eleven years old,
Speaker 2: and her and Kobe went to the prom together, right,
Speaker 2: and we was all we all kind of got on
Speaker 2: around that same time because he went straight from high
Speaker 2: school into the league. So what was it like, man
Speaker 2: like knowing him for real? For real? Because everything about
Speaker 2: me running to him and it was always good vibes
Speaker 2: and conversation, but it was all like bits and pieces.
Speaker 2: I've never like hung out with him for three four
Speaker 2: hours and just sat across like this and chopped it up,
Speaker 2: like what made him so different other than his skill
Speaker 2: level and all that he accomplished, Like what what type
Speaker 2: of tiger? What leg yo? That motherfucker's in chense?
Speaker 4: Like? Was it ever like or was it most most
Speaker 4: people as a teenager, especially all of us, you know,
Speaker 4: we was thinking just playing basketball, having fun, going mex
Speaker 4: with girls. Like at a young age, he had a
Speaker 4: hit list of all the top players in our class,
Speaker 4: and his people was focused on being better and destroying
Speaker 4: all than when he's seen them at a teenager. I
Speaker 4: don't know no other teenager that played basketball and not
Speaker 4: area that was thinking like that we alway having fun.
Speaker 2: We wanted the new shoes, you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 2: We wanted to be fly. He was thinking being the
Speaker 2: greatest basketball player of all time as a teenager.
Speaker 4: And that was his conversation. And I'm talking about from work.
Speaker 4: Walkthrough is at McDonald's game. It's footage that's Richard Hamilton
Speaker 4: posts on his page. We're doing a walk through. He
Speaker 4: catched the ball, swipe hard and go dunk it. It's
Speaker 4: like it's just a walk through.
Speaker 2: Both So he was just different, Like his will to
Speaker 2: win and will to be great.
Speaker 4: You can't teach that. And I don't think you've very
Speaker 4: you probably won't ever see it again.
Speaker 2: But it was sparked by Jordan, Yes, and his father, Yes,
Speaker 2: his father Jim. He was able to even identify and
Speaker 2: connect to m J. And then he like, I want
Speaker 2: to even be bigger and better. But it was it
Speaker 2: was a constant appetite of aggression. Great.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean I got a chance to like really
Speaker 3: really get to know him once he became teammates and
Speaker 3: then post career, and you know, obviously you see his
Speaker 3: greatness on the court and in his driving will, but
Speaker 3: you know, I got a chance to see like the father,
Speaker 3: you know, the coach, you know, the way he looked
Speaker 3: out for people, the way he loved people, the way
Speaker 3: he tried to inspire people, and really took that same
Speaker 3: grind and Jackson and basketball and wanted to put it
Speaker 3: in business and again to help people. You know. He
Speaker 3: was telling us both like the last time we talked
Speaker 3: to him, like I don't want to be known for
Speaker 3: my last twenty years. I'm like, Nika, you're coach Bryant.
Speaker 3: Five championships Los Angelakers wanted to He's like, I want
Speaker 3: to be known for the next twenty you know what
Speaker 3: I mean. So he was always kind of whatever it
Speaker 3: was gonna he was gonna put his mind to. He
Speaker 3: was going to be the best at Like that's how much.
Speaker 3: But again I see them cool, relaxed, talking shit, you know,
Speaker 3: back and forth. So it wasn't I didn't, No, No,
Speaker 3: I knew him in passing. I didn't know the younger Kobe.
Speaker 3: When I got a chance to meet obviously the older Kobe,
Speaker 3: it was just a lot different.
Speaker 2: I've heard and I don't know if this is true.
Speaker 2: It's nothing bad, but I've heard that it doesn't matter
Speaker 2: how often you were around him. He just never let
Speaker 2: anybody get all the way too familiar. It was always
Speaker 2: a you know or was there ever like something that
Speaker 2: felt like, oh that they were all best friends and
Speaker 2: we all like, was it ever?
Speaker 3: Like, No, he didn't let everybody in. He didn't. And
Speaker 3: I even asked him about that too. I used to
Speaker 3: tell like, why don't you show the world this? And
Speaker 3: He's like, nah, I can't show these motherfuckers at you
Speaker 3: know what I mean. So like if he allowed you
Speaker 3: to come in, and I can't even say I like
Speaker 3: you said, I wouldn't say I'm super like, but he
Speaker 3: allowed me in, you know what I mean, around him
Speaker 3: and the kids and and you know, kind of the family,
Speaker 3: that kind of stuff.
Speaker 4: And yeah, he had a little MJ him to where
Speaker 4: he's trying to get one up on everybody, and not
Speaker 4: in a bad way. He's just thinking why competition, Like
Speaker 4: he's a thinker. He was a thinker, you know what
Speaker 4: I'm saying. Even on the court, you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 4: His game showed it, but his i Q of basketball
Speaker 4: was just as high as anybody's, you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 4: That's what people don't understand about Kobe That's why he
Speaker 4: was so relentless because he can outthink you. He was
Speaker 4: already great with the ball, and when, like you, sometimes
Speaker 4: you guard him, you in awe, like fucking Kobe Bryant,
Speaker 4: So he's already mind fucked you.
Speaker 2: You know what hit you with some ship? You know
Speaker 2: what I'm saying. Like he was just different, Bro, He
Speaker 2: was different? Though, will it will there ever be a
Speaker 2: such thing in your mind as athletes of because I
Speaker 2: don't live in that world obviously, But like obviously Kobe
Speaker 2: is Kobe, And before Kobe, that was Magic Johnson and
Speaker 2: kind of the rain of energy Kareem because I'm West
Speaker 2: Coast all day, so Kareem Magic Johnson and then Kobe.
Speaker 2: But as much as Lebron mean to all of us
Speaker 2: in the game, is Kobe like that tough of an
Speaker 2: act to follow because of what he meant to us
Speaker 2: all and then the loss? Will will anyone ever be
Speaker 2: able to kind of ever feel the peak of success
Speaker 2: on that level because of the tragedy in your mind?
Speaker 4: For me, it's different because I can separate the two,
Speaker 4: Like I know how I felt about Kobe as a
Speaker 4: basketball player, as playing against him, as knowing him as
Speaker 4: as a kid, But I also know how my emotions
Speaker 4: shifted when he passed, So can I look at it
Speaker 4: from I can speak on him being an athlete and
Speaker 4: the great basketball player, but I could also speak of
Speaker 4: what we miss him by him being gone, You know
Speaker 4: what I'm saying.
Speaker 2: So it's I can separate the.
Speaker 3: Two, huh. I mean, I think obviously Lebron's greatness is
Speaker 3: Lebron's greatness. But I think, you know, for someone to
Speaker 3: get drafted here as like we, like he said, you
Speaker 3: grew up in front of our eyes. He grew up
Speaker 3: in front of the world's eyes as well, from seventeen
Speaker 3: years old to you know, row the ship until the
Speaker 3: till the ship sink, when he could have jumped and
Speaker 3: went somewhere else. So I don't think anyone will ever
Speaker 3: be more impactful to the Lakers historic name than Kobe
Speaker 3: for what he meant to it, the championships he won,
Speaker 3: and then obviously the way he went.
Speaker 4: Out, and we'll never see, you know, the same time,
Speaker 4: we'll never see nothing like that, Kobe Jordan, none of
Speaker 4: that ever again.
Speaker 2: And it's clear that crazy. Yeah. See Lebron man, he
Speaker 2: a fellow capital, and we got the same birthday December thirtieth.
Speaker 2: In my mind, he's definitely one of my best friends.
Speaker 2: In my mind, you'll never see a Lebron James seeing
Speaker 2: him in the shop, man, just like I seen this
Speaker 2: this lab. I'm yo, Man, that's my nigga. He just
Speaker 2: don't know it yet, right, But yeah, Man, I appreciate
Speaker 2: y'all having me on appreciation plan. Man. I'm grateful. Man,
Speaker 2: I've been I've been looking at I've been looking at
Speaker 2: y'all man forever. Man, I wish you all the best. Man,
Speaker 2: appreciate you. Thanks for coming to my wedding and sliding
Speaker 2: out like home. I gotta tell you why I slid out. Man, Oh,
Speaker 2: we didn't care. We didn't care, you did. I showed
Speaker 2: my job. Man, you was good. But outside of that, man,
Speaker 2: the most uncomfortable thing for me is to show up
Speaker 2: to a man's biggest and most incredible day. Still make it,
Speaker 2: make it about me, Yeah, because it was show was
Speaker 2: gonna be. I did my thing about that because he was.
Speaker 3: Over in the corner by me. He was singing over
Speaker 3: in the corner, making all.
Speaker 2: The home crying, and everybody wanted to get up and say, man,
Speaker 2: I grew a man. I remember when you. You know
Speaker 2: all that I don't want that energy to shift me
Speaker 2: at all that I did. You know he asked me
Speaker 2: to sing it the wedd I was here, I'm here
Speaker 2: with my best and killed out of here. Kill right.
Speaker 2: Appreciate that's alright.
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