WEBVTT - Jason Mitchell - Hollyweird, Setbacks, Betrayal, Thugs 0:00:01.120 --> 0:00:04.520 Yep, GEP Ghetto Boys is back and reload it all 0:00:04.680 --> 0:00:05.360 in your mind. 0:00:05.559 --> 0:00:08.200 Yeah, now deep throat it. This is going the streets. 0:00:08.200 --> 0:00:12.440 The real, the real roaded to disenfranchise the truth to escapegoating, 0:00:12.680 --> 0:00:14.640 and they ain't know where we speak the truth, so 0:00:14.720 --> 0:00:18.040 they quoted because we wrote it the North South East coach. 0:00:18.200 --> 0:00:21.319 Just the ge be mock keeping your head bobbing. It 0:00:21.400 --> 0:00:22.320 ain't no stopping. 0:00:22.440 --> 0:00:24.880 And once the bedrops head by. 0:00:24.840 --> 0:00:27.320 Then the system is so corrupt they threw the rock 0:00:27.360 --> 0:00:29.320 out their heads and then blame it on us. 0:00:31.080 --> 0:00:33.840 Don't get it twisted on colding Meg danced, they put 0:00:33.840 --> 0:00:38.879 no butterment biscuits. It's Willie d y'all Ghetto Boys in 0:00:38.920 --> 0:00:43.000 the house back with another episode of information and instructions 0:00:43.040 --> 0:00:46.240 to help you navigate through this wild, crazy, beautiful world. 0:00:46.600 --> 0:00:49.400 In the studio Jason. 0:00:49.159 --> 0:00:52.319 Mitchell, yes her, yes up. Can't oh good? But how 0:00:52.320 --> 0:00:52.879 you doing. 0:00:52.920 --> 0:00:55.200 Hey, man? Ship hold on hop out be on top. 0:00:55.320 --> 0:00:57.760 I heard that, man. Thank you for having me, brother, 0:00:58.080 --> 0:00:58.680 Thank you for. 0:00:58.600 --> 0:01:03.120 Having assolutely man. We got to get right into it. 0:01:04.120 --> 0:01:08.360 You have portrayed a number of complex characters and films 0:01:08.440 --> 0:01:14.920 like Straight out of Compton and mud Bound and mud 0:01:14.959 --> 0:01:21.039 Bound you played a you played a character that was 0:01:22.200 --> 0:01:27.080 based on uh this guy who was you know, coming 0:01:27.120 --> 0:01:30.400 home from post World War two and you got this 0:01:30.640 --> 0:01:35.520 racial tension going on. How is it that you were 0:01:35.600 --> 0:01:39.800 able to like channel that energy that was needed to 0:01:39.880 --> 0:01:43.200 where you're coming home basically damn near war hero coming 0:01:43.240 --> 0:01:47.920 back home to Mississippi, you know, one of the one 0:01:47.920 --> 0:01:49.880 of the racists. I mean, this is like damn near 0:01:50.000 --> 0:01:53.320 like the foundation of racism in America, fact, right, Like, 0:01:53.720 --> 0:01:57.120 how were you able to to channel to channel that 0:01:57.280 --> 0:01:59.840 energy well to deliver that role? 0:02:00.760 --> 0:02:03.000 I mean to be honest, right, like just being a 0:02:03.000 --> 0:02:09.799 black man in America, we know they got racism that 0:02:09.800 --> 0:02:12.079 that just lies on the surface, especially when you grew 0:02:12.120 --> 0:02:14.160 up in the South like me. I'm originally from New Orleans, 0:02:14.280 --> 0:02:19.240 right right. But my grandfather he's from Bush, Louisiana, and 0:02:20.000 --> 0:02:24.480 went to the Korean War, came home with I mean, 0:02:25.160 --> 0:02:28.680 uh probably like a fourth or fifth grade education, and 0:02:28.880 --> 0:02:32.440 had to marry my grandmother, which which they consider uh 0:02:33.040 --> 0:02:34.880 passe blan. I don't know if you ever seen this movie, 0:02:34.919 --> 0:02:37.000 The Pass and that Tessa Thompson just did this black. 0:02:36.800 --> 0:02:38.240 And white film. 0:02:38.480 --> 0:02:40.919 Yeah, it was an excellent film, but it was like real, right, So, 0:02:40.960 --> 0:02:44.120 my my grandmother was what they called passe blann passed 0:02:44.160 --> 0:02:47.480 for white, and her my grandfather pretty much got together 0:02:47.560 --> 0:02:50.040 because he had some money from the war and she 0:02:50.200 --> 0:02:52.680 was white enough to go start them a business, you know. 0:02:52.760 --> 0:02:56.320 So that was it was damnar really his story, and 0:02:56.360 --> 0:02:59.640 like where we actually shot the film when I was 0:02:59.639 --> 0:03:01.519 in the f four than fifth grade. Man, we took 0:03:01.600 --> 0:03:04.600 field trips out there to see, you know, the plantations 0:03:04.639 --> 0:03:08.079 and the wax museums and all of that. So it 0:03:08.120 --> 0:03:10.320 was something that was already kind of deep rooted in 0:03:10.400 --> 0:03:12.520 me that I felt like I just needed to let out. 0:03:12.560 --> 0:03:14.600 And it was such a privilege to be able to 0:03:14.680 --> 0:03:15.040 let that. 0:03:15.000 --> 0:03:15.880 Out, you know what I mean. 0:03:15.960 --> 0:03:18.720 Like, I just appreciate d Read so much for talking 0:03:18.720 --> 0:03:21.760 about that, because a lot of times people want to 0:03:21.840 --> 0:03:25.560 jump straight from slavery to civil rights and they never 0:03:25.600 --> 0:03:27.880 want to talk about this Jim Crow situation that was 0:03:27.919 --> 0:03:30.880 happening that really, I feel like, built the hate, you 0:03:30.919 --> 0:03:32.840 know what I mean, between white and black people. 0:03:33.680 --> 0:03:34.359 And it was. 0:03:35.880 --> 0:03:38.280 Man funny story about that, right, Like I took my 0:03:38.320 --> 0:03:44.280 grandfather to see Straight out of Compton and he fell 0:03:44.280 --> 0:03:47.040 asleep in the middle of the movie, just was knocked out, 0:03:47.080 --> 0:03:49.560 you know what I mean. 0:03:50.800 --> 0:03:52.440 Not that had nothing to do with the movie. 0:03:53.120 --> 0:03:55.640 Right, But when I took him to go see mud Bone, 0:03:55.720 --> 0:03:58.680 he literally sat there with his arms folded the entire time. 0:03:58.800 --> 0:04:02.760 Not mind you, his oldest brother was a slave, you 0:04:02.800 --> 0:04:05.120 know what I mean. And in his mind's always some 0:04:05.200 --> 0:04:06.920 work to be done, even on a Sunday, you know 0:04:06.920 --> 0:04:08.720 what I mean. He always tell me it's always it's 0:04:08.720 --> 0:04:13.360 always some wit. And he sat there with his arms 0:04:13.360 --> 0:04:15.560 folded the entire time. And when we left out of there, 0:04:15.600 --> 0:04:18.320 he was like, so, you mean to tell me that 0:04:18.360 --> 0:04:22.479 these people paid you to do this, that's. 0:04:22.279 --> 0:04:23.000 What you're saying. 0:04:23.200 --> 0:04:25.960 Like he couldn't even conceptualize the fact that I had 0:04:26.000 --> 0:04:29.960 got money put in my pocket and I'm getting glorified 0:04:30.480 --> 0:04:34.560 for putting this on TV. He couldn't even his brain 0:04:34.600 --> 0:04:36.920 couldn't even compute it, you know what I mean. 0:04:37.200 --> 0:04:38.800 And I just look at it. 0:04:38.960 --> 0:04:42.640 Was he upset? Was he upset about it? 0:04:42.680 --> 0:04:43.160 Absolutely? 0:04:43.200 --> 0:04:45.480 Because I mean, to him, it was way too real, 0:04:45.880 --> 0:04:48.280 you know, because the exact same thing happened to him 0:04:48.320 --> 0:04:50.040 and a few of his brothers. They went to the war, 0:04:50.480 --> 0:04:55.719 came back and even though they was heroes, they wasn't 0:04:55.720 --> 0:04:57.560 getting no love from no white folks, and they wouldn't 0:04:57.560 --> 0:04:59.599 save them, you know what I mean. So they really 0:05:00.760 --> 0:05:03.599 they had a whole different type of a feeling about 0:05:03.600 --> 0:05:05.760 the film just in general, you know, and it took 0:05:05.880 --> 0:05:08.920 other people to tell them, oh, like he getting awards 0:05:08.960 --> 0:05:11.240 and you know, the movie is doing so good for 0:05:11.320 --> 0:05:13.640 him to even calm down, Like he wasn't even trying 0:05:13.640 --> 0:05:15.040 to hear that at first, you know what I mean. 0:05:15.080 --> 0:05:18.680 And it was just so he felt that your character 0:05:18.800 --> 0:05:19.480 was blasphem me. 0:05:20.560 --> 0:05:24.440 Well he thought cause in his mind right, acting is 0:05:24.480 --> 0:05:26.200 already kind of a joke, like they're not paying no 0:05:26.240 --> 0:05:29.800 black man to be no actor, Like that's that's not 0:05:30.000 --> 0:05:32.800 like that's never gonna happen, you know, because back in 0:05:32.839 --> 0:05:34.560 their day it was like if you was acting for 0:05:34.600 --> 0:05:37.160 them white people, you was basically a joke, like you. 0:05:37.120 --> 0:05:39.839 Know, black people wasn't respecting it, you know. 0:05:39.920 --> 0:05:41.800 So he already was kind of like looking at my 0:05:41.920 --> 0:05:45.159 job like when you're gonna get a real job, you 0:05:45.200 --> 0:05:45.800 know what I mean. 0:05:46.279 --> 0:05:48.839 Yeah, and I'm telling you like he never believed me. 0:05:48.920 --> 0:05:51.520 It always took everybody else to tell him like, oh, 0:05:51.760 --> 0:05:54.800 you know, your grandson doing great, and but yeah, he 0:05:54.920 --> 0:05:57.279 never he never looked at my job, like it was 0:05:57.279 --> 0:05:59.280 a real thing. So when he saw that, it was 0:05:59.360 --> 0:06:01.760 like but for me, I feel like, look what we 0:06:01.800 --> 0:06:04.039 did in three generations, you know what I mean. We 0:06:04.120 --> 0:06:06.839 basically went from his oldest brother who was a slave. 0:06:06.920 --> 0:06:12.039 I mean, he put my mama and her two siblings 0:06:13.040 --> 0:06:15.159 in LSU because all they could do was pick up 0:06:15.200 --> 0:06:17.520 trash at LSU. But think about it, like you go 0:06:17.600 --> 0:06:19.000 to a war and then you come home and all 0:06:19.040 --> 0:06:21.160 you could do is pick up trash on LSU campus. 0:06:21.279 --> 0:06:23.760 That's crazy. So he sent all his kids there, you know, 0:06:23.920 --> 0:06:26.520 just like to be able to stand firm on what 0:06:26.600 --> 0:06:29.680 he believed. And then you know, my mom had me. 0:06:29.760 --> 0:06:31.680 And then I put that story on the big screen, 0:06:31.720 --> 0:06:32.960 you know what I mean, And we went for a 0:06:32.960 --> 0:06:33.680 few oscars. 0:06:33.720 --> 0:06:35.760 So yeah, I. 0:06:35.680 --> 0:06:37.960 Feel like that's when I realized as an actor, like 0:06:38.720 --> 0:06:41.040 what I did really meant something, you know what I mean, 0:06:41.160 --> 0:06:42.880 Like when I play easy E, I knew. 0:06:42.680 --> 0:06:45.120 Like I just couldn't. You just can't fuck that up, 0:06:45.200 --> 0:06:45.640 you know what I. 0:06:45.720 --> 0:06:47.839 Mean, Like if you do, you just gotta hide under 0:06:47.880 --> 0:06:49.840 a rock until it blow over. 0:06:49.960 --> 0:06:53.320 But when you start, like. 0:06:55.000 --> 0:06:56.960 You know, when your children come home and they like, Daddy, 0:06:57.000 --> 0:07:01.120 we watched your movie at school today. That's that's life changing, 0:07:01.240 --> 0:07:03.320 you know what I mean. So you know, I hate 0:07:03.320 --> 0:07:05.440 to look at myself like an actor activist or something 0:07:05.480 --> 0:07:07.000 like that, because I ain't got a racist bone in 0:07:07.040 --> 0:07:09.560 my body. But you know, it feel good to be 0:07:09.600 --> 0:07:12.640 able to tell our story and not have to be 0:07:12.800 --> 0:07:14.760 violent with our protests, you know what I mean. 0:07:14.840 --> 0:07:16.520 So I feel like we came a long way. 0:07:16.920 --> 0:07:20.280 But how do you go from easy a tough guy, 0:07:20.440 --> 0:07:25.680 easy e ain't scared of nothing, to Rounzel Jackson. Yeah, 0:07:25.800 --> 0:07:28.240 you know this this guy who is it? What he rolling? 0:07:28.320 --> 0:07:30.280 He got a chip on his shoulder, but man, he 0:07:30.360 --> 0:07:34.760 got a deal. The motherfuckers right in Mississippi. I mean, 0:07:34.880 --> 0:07:37.640 they're a different type of uncivilized, but right, you know, 0:07:37.800 --> 0:07:42.040 and and they got they got the law enforcement and 0:07:42.080 --> 0:07:46.560 the courts and the government everything, everybody all inconhusion, everybody 0:07:46.560 --> 0:07:49.840 on the same page. Like you're nobody. You're dealing with 0:07:49.920 --> 0:07:52.640 a system. You're not dealing with a person. You're dealing 0:07:52.680 --> 0:07:54.120 with a system. 0:07:54.040 --> 0:07:56.600 Right, you know, right, And you know, as sad as 0:07:56.600 --> 0:08:03.280 it is, like still really haven't wiggled our way outside 0:08:03.320 --> 0:08:06.120 that system all the way you know, as blacks like 0:08:06.920 --> 0:08:09.400 because they have this cooker cutter version of what it 0:08:09.400 --> 0:08:09.840 should be. 0:08:10.480 --> 0:08:10.640 You know. 0:08:10.760 --> 0:08:13.840 Let you know that with all due respect, Let's just 0:08:13.880 --> 0:08:16.640 take Hollywood for instance, right, it was built by a 0:08:16.680 --> 0:08:20.160 certain group of people, and you know a lot of 0:08:20.200 --> 0:08:23.440 the talent is black talent, or it may be you know, 0:08:23.520 --> 0:08:25.640 people of color or whatever it may be. But if 0:08:25.640 --> 0:08:27.960 you're not coloring inside the lines, they can move you 0:08:28.040 --> 0:08:29.000 around real quick. 0:08:29.280 --> 0:08:31.920 And it's the same thing with the sharecropping situation. 0:08:32.040 --> 0:08:36.439 It's like you you free, but you live on my land. 0:08:37.559 --> 0:08:40.240 So in order to have anything that me and anything, 0:08:40.280 --> 0:08:42.600 you got to work for me. And that's just how 0:08:42.640 --> 0:08:45.760 this system was built. And it's sad to see. 0:08:45.600 --> 0:08:46.079 You know, but. 0:08:48.000 --> 0:08:50.760 Me and a few of my brothers, brothers like yourself, 0:08:50.800 --> 0:08:52.800 you know, we wiggling our way out. 0:08:52.679 --> 0:08:53.560 Of this, you know what I mean. 0:08:53.679 --> 0:08:57.000 And it's about ownership and it's about having something for yourself. 0:08:57.720 --> 0:09:01.160 So you know, if anybody learns anything for me in 0:09:01.280 --> 0:09:04.200 my career, that's what I want him to go home with, 0:09:04.440 --> 0:09:06.480 you know, go home with something that's for you and 0:09:06.520 --> 0:09:08.320 that's gonna be for your family, you know what I mean. 0:09:08.360 --> 0:09:11.720 You gotta you gotta own something in this world for sure, 0:09:12.400 --> 0:09:15.280 you know. And it's it's it's it's pretty crazy or 0:09:15.360 --> 0:09:20.920 to have this, uh, this freedom to be able to 0:09:21.160 --> 0:09:25.120 express myself the way I feel like I need to because. 0:09:26.600 --> 0:09:29.079 It's tough. It's hard out here, you know what I mean. 0:09:29.120 --> 0:09:31.120 You got the police on your back, you got all 0:09:31.160 --> 0:09:35.480 of this systemic racism, all of these different things happening, 0:09:35.520 --> 0:09:37.360 you know. So I think I was very blessed to 0:09:37.400 --> 0:09:41.720 be in a situation to be able to speak for 0:09:42.080 --> 0:09:45.480 an entire demographic of people, you know. So I just 0:09:45.600 --> 0:09:48.640 I really got to get a get a glory to God, man, 0:09:48.679 --> 0:09:52.560 because when you ask how, I don't really know. 0:09:52.640 --> 0:09:53.959 Man's it's a blessing. 0:09:54.200 --> 0:09:54.400 You know. 0:09:54.480 --> 0:09:57.720 That's where the gift kicking and my own understanding moves 0:09:57.760 --> 0:09:58.240 out the way. 0:09:58.800 --> 0:10:02.959 Yeah, you talked about the role you played and straight 0:10:02.960 --> 0:10:07.839 out of Compton, Easy, the iconic easy Eric, right, the 0:10:08.040 --> 0:10:14.079 man the guy above. All right, that was your breakout roll. 0:10:15.520 --> 0:10:22.280 That was congrats, you know, thank you and salute because 0:10:22.960 --> 0:10:26.720 when I looked at you do that in fact, all 0:10:26.920 --> 0:10:29.920 all you guys nailed your roles. Y'all was just perfect. 0:10:30.200 --> 0:10:32.200 The casting was perfect. 0:10:32.320 --> 0:10:34.719 Yeah, we got to give a big shout out to Vicky. 0:10:34.480 --> 0:10:40.079 Thomas Thomas man get that that the casting was perfect 0:10:40.640 --> 0:10:46.400 one thout believable and the way you the way you 0:10:46.480 --> 0:10:50.440 were able to channel your your your energy, it was 0:10:50.480 --> 0:10:52.640 like a roller coaster, you know, you was like a 0:10:52.760 --> 0:10:55.600 roller coaster type thing going on, and but you were 0:10:55.640 --> 0:10:58.120 able to deliver it and it was believable every step 0:10:58.160 --> 0:11:01.319 of the way. That was no hiccups, Like how were 0:11:01.320 --> 0:11:08.040 you able to channel this iconic character and maintain you know, 0:11:08.120 --> 0:11:10.760 like you know you're acting, but you know you're going 0:11:10.920 --> 0:11:15.679 cut cut, cut cut, and still be able to deliver 0:11:16.360 --> 0:11:18.200 like time and time and time again, because I know 0:11:18.400 --> 0:11:21.160 the movie only lasted an hour or something, right, right, right, 0:11:21.280 --> 0:11:22.880 but I know you know it took a lot of 0:11:23.200 --> 0:11:25.640 takes to get get it right, to get it perfect. 0:11:25.640 --> 0:11:28.520 Oh absolutely, Gary, Gary Gray. You know we also got 0:11:28.559 --> 0:11:29.880 to give a shout out to him. You know, that's 0:11:29.960 --> 0:11:32.679 our fearless leader and as a black director, I mean, 0:11:32.800 --> 0:11:34.720 he ain't ever missed, you know what I mean, Like 0:11:34.760 --> 0:11:37.240 his first film Friday when you look at set it off, 0:11:37.400 --> 0:11:41.200 the Italian Job, the Negotiator, I mean, he just don't 0:11:41.240 --> 0:11:45.320 miss you know, so we we definitely got to put 0:11:45.400 --> 0:11:47.560 him properly on the plateau that he should be on. 0:11:47.720 --> 0:11:49.960 And you know, he's definitely one of the greades. He 0:11:50.040 --> 0:11:53.160 might be the highest paid black you know director ever. 0:11:53.320 --> 0:11:56.880 So he grew up around the corner from Cbe, you 0:11:56.960 --> 0:11:59.080 know what I mean. He knew this life very well. 0:11:59.120 --> 0:12:01.600 But for me, you know, being from New Orleans, all 0:12:01.640 --> 0:12:05.240 I know is the lingo, right because I'm seeing it 0:12:05.280 --> 0:12:09.480 on TV. I'm seeing Minister Society, you know, these sorts 0:12:09.520 --> 0:12:12.160 of movies, and I'm not able to do the voice 0:12:12.200 --> 0:12:13.920 real quick because and I could switch it up and 0:12:13.960 --> 0:12:15.560 do the La voice, and you know, I could do 0:12:15.600 --> 0:12:17.120 all of that. And it was like something that we 0:12:17.160 --> 0:12:18.960 always thought was funny in New Orleans because you know, 0:12:19.520 --> 0:12:22.000 I don't really know exactly what language we speak because 0:12:22.040 --> 0:12:25.400 it's not quite English, you know, but like it was 0:12:25.440 --> 0:12:28.319 funny to us that they would pronounce every syllable even 0:12:28.360 --> 0:12:30.320 though they were super gangster, and you know, and it 0:12:30.400 --> 0:12:33.520 was things that I saw on TV that like, once 0:12:33.559 --> 0:12:37.199 I got to La and I met guys like Nipsey 0:12:37.360 --> 0:12:42.240 and Problem and Laylaw and all of them, when they 0:12:42.280 --> 0:12:46.040 started to explain the gang culture to me, a lot 0:12:46.040 --> 0:12:48.120 of it started to make more sense. Like when people 0:12:48.120 --> 0:12:51.320 see easy move in certain ways, like all of these 0:12:51.360 --> 0:12:57.480 things was like crip affiliated situations, right, So I just 0:12:57.520 --> 0:12:59.360 started looking at it like, you know, what if I 0:12:59.400 --> 0:13:02.600 could build this man from the ground up and humanize 0:13:02.640 --> 0:13:06.200 him as a person, you know, from you know him 0:13:06.240 --> 0:13:08.400 growing up like having their first little studio in his 0:13:08.480 --> 0:13:10.240 grandmother's garage. 0:13:09.880 --> 0:13:14.840 To you know, going through baby Mama drama, to you. 0:13:14.760 --> 0:13:17.520 Know, his cousin being killed and being one of the 0:13:17.520 --> 0:13:20.760 biggest drug dealers ever. I was just sort of putting 0:13:20.800 --> 0:13:23.880 all these pieces together that would allow me ultimately to 0:13:25.760 --> 0:13:28.040 be so prepared that by the time I got on set, 0:13:28.120 --> 0:13:31.000 I was taking direction as easy and not as Jason Mitchell. 0:13:32.200 --> 0:13:35.079 You dig that. So that's kind of that's how locked 0:13:35.120 --> 0:13:35.760 in I was. 0:13:36.160 --> 0:13:39.320 And man, we like working with Gary was crazy, right 0:13:39.360 --> 0:13:42.559 because for four straight weeks we had to like re 0:13:42.559 --> 0:13:43.640 record the album. 0:13:44.320 --> 0:13:45.880 We had to do our kind of like uh. 0:13:47.360 --> 0:13:50.200 Performance training and stuff like that with dub C, and 0:13:50.240 --> 0:13:52.480 they wanted to believe that we was in w A. 0:13:53.679 --> 0:13:54.679 Yeah that's my guy. 0:13:55.280 --> 0:13:57.400 He's a super solid one, you know what I mean, 0:13:57.480 --> 0:14:01.280 But yeah, yeah, he's he's amazing. But they wanted us 0:14:01.440 --> 0:14:08.560 to convince NWA that we was in WA without the costumes, right, right, 0:14:09.280 --> 0:14:11.480 So you know, it was about being able to listen 0:14:11.520 --> 0:14:13.800 to each other and really be able to transfer the 0:14:13.920 --> 0:14:16.680 energy and all of these different things that like, at first, 0:14:16.880 --> 0:14:19.400 we all really kind of thought some bullshit. He like, man, 0:14:19.480 --> 0:14:22.040 this nigga, bro, he's just doing the most. So one 0:14:22.120 --> 0:14:24.920 day he pulls some money out of his pocket and 0:14:24.920 --> 0:14:27.800 he said, everybody close your eyes, and he drops a 0:14:27.800 --> 0:14:29.520 bill on the ground and he said what kind of 0:14:29.560 --> 0:14:31.760 bill is that? And were like, come on, bro, like 0:14:32.160 --> 0:14:34.600 you just making up anything now. He like, no, if 0:14:34.600 --> 0:14:38.160 you're really listening and you're really paying attention, you wouldn't 0:14:38.160 --> 0:14:40.000 know what kind of bill that hits the ground. If 0:14:40.000 --> 0:14:42.080 it's one hundred or five or one dollar bill, a 0:14:42.160 --> 0:14:45.880 twenty or ten, you gonna know if you're really paying attention, man, listen. 0:14:46.280 --> 0:14:49.560 By the end of that training, he had us do 0:14:49.640 --> 0:14:50.800 it again. He dropped that. 0:14:51.080 --> 0:14:53.120 Everybody was like, that's a hundred, that's a hundred. We 0:14:53.160 --> 0:14:55.240 looked down it was one hundred dollar bill, and it 0:14:55.360 --> 0:14:59.080 was just incredible to like work with him and get 0:14:59.120 --> 0:15:01.320 that real coarateie going. 0:15:01.440 --> 0:15:03.160 You know what I mean. We was really like brothers. 0:15:03.240 --> 0:15:05.240 Like when we were doing all that crying at the 0:15:05.320 --> 0:15:08.560 end of the movie, it became a joke to us because. 0:15:08.320 --> 0:15:11.400 We was like this nigga really about to make me cry. 0:15:11.520 --> 0:15:13.840 Like when Algi Hodge walked out of the player mc wren, 0:15:13.960 --> 0:15:16.360 he was really holding him to his back. When Neil 0:15:16.480 --> 0:15:19.120 ran out of that crying, he was really he was 0:15:19.160 --> 0:15:23.040 in the in the in the hallway, really balling off camera, 0:15:23.120 --> 0:15:25.280 you know what I mean, Because we grew such a 0:15:25.360 --> 0:15:30.560 brotherhood that it was like it just it felt too real. 0:15:31.040 --> 0:15:33.160 It felt too real to us, you know what I mean. 0:15:34.280 --> 0:15:37.920 I just don't know a way that they could have 0:15:38.000 --> 0:15:41.280 gotten a better cast out of that. I just don't know, 0:15:41.520 --> 0:15:48.360 Like it was so perfectly casting. Typically, you can get 0:15:49.040 --> 0:15:52.480 one person, the right person. You can find somebody that 0:15:52.560 --> 0:15:57.240 can really really embody the role that character. They can 0:15:57.320 --> 0:15:58.240 do it for. 0:15:58.320 --> 0:16:02.600 That one person, right, but everybody is a different what 0:16:02.840 --> 0:16:06.640 five different man and even down to like the Jimmy 0:16:06.640 --> 0:16:11.240 Iveen little roles that they popped in that you like, damn. 0:16:11.680 --> 0:16:14.160 Like when I first met Jimmy, I was so impressed 0:16:14.160 --> 0:16:16.160 to see him standing next to the guy that was 0:16:16.200 --> 0:16:16.720 playing him. 0:16:17.000 --> 0:16:17.960 It blew my mind. 0:16:18.040 --> 0:16:21.320 I'm like, damn, they find everybody that really looked like 0:16:21.360 --> 0:16:22.120 the people. 0:16:22.120 --> 0:16:24.640 But they still had their chops too. 0:16:24.880 --> 0:16:27.920 Yeah, yeah, Paul, he was he was amazing to work 0:16:27.960 --> 0:16:28.320 with Bro. 0:16:28.400 --> 0:16:33.560 He like, he changed my whole mind frame on where 0:16:33.600 --> 0:16:35.680 I was on the totem pole, you know what I mean. 0:16:35.760 --> 0:16:38.800 Because I didn't know no actors growing up, Like the 0:16:38.800 --> 0:16:40.560 actors that are from New Orleans, they had to leave 0:16:40.600 --> 0:16:43.640 New Orleans in order to you know, flourish. They had 0:16:43.640 --> 0:16:45.520 to you know, go to New York, LA or whatever 0:16:45.560 --> 0:16:48.800 it was. So I grew up around all rappers, you 0:16:48.800 --> 0:16:51.360 know what I mean. I come up under Lil Wayne 0:16:51.360 --> 0:16:53.480 and you know what I mean, the squad and all 0:16:53.520 --> 0:16:54.040 of these guys. 0:16:54.040 --> 0:16:57.600 That's what I'm saying. Coming up, I rapped. 0:16:57.600 --> 0:16:59.480 I rapped before everybody thought I was gonna rap, you 0:16:59.560 --> 0:17:01.120 know what I mean, and not act. But I was 0:17:01.200 --> 0:17:03.920 just like, you know what, ain't nobody acting. So once 0:17:04.920 --> 0:17:07.600 I found that little hustle, I was like, hey, I 0:17:07.680 --> 0:17:08.840 might be good at this, you know. 0:17:08.920 --> 0:17:09.760 So I ended up. 0:17:10.040 --> 0:17:12.639 You're going you're gonna put it in? You gotta put it. 0:17:12.440 --> 0:17:15.080 It's like it's calling you, bro. 0:17:15.400 --> 0:17:17.280 It definitely is. I got it. 0:17:17.320 --> 0:17:20.280 I got a couple of records, you know, because I 0:17:20.320 --> 0:17:21.920 ain't gonna lie. I can write any kind of music. 0:17:21.920 --> 0:17:23.800 I could write country music if I really wanted to. 0:17:23.840 --> 0:17:26.240 Me and Trevor Jackson, who I did Superfly with. We 0:17:26.240 --> 0:17:30.080 we write a lot of music together. Yeah, that's my guy. 0:17:30.920 --> 0:17:33.480 Man, That's that's something else. You can country music. 0:17:33.800 --> 0:17:36.959 I can. I can. I'm here for it because I mean, 0:17:37.000 --> 0:17:37.919 I'm a storyteller. 0:17:37.960 --> 0:17:39.560 At the end of the day, I bet you can't 0:17:39.600 --> 0:17:40.639 do that opera. 0:17:41.359 --> 0:17:42.440 Opera, you know what. 0:17:42.520 --> 0:17:44.639 That might be a little out my jacket, you know 0:17:44.680 --> 0:17:47.680 what I mean, But it's not necessarily something I enjoyed, 0:17:47.800 --> 0:17:49.280 Like the artist beautiful. 0:17:49.600 --> 0:17:51.800 I just saw a black opera singing like. 0:17:51.400 --> 0:17:53.440 Like a couple of months ago, and I was just like, wow, 0:17:53.640 --> 0:17:55.080 this is it's incredible. 0:17:55.119 --> 0:17:58.320 But I'm did you cry? I didn't. 0:17:59.040 --> 0:18:00.920 You're supposed to cry when you listen to opera. You 0:18:00.960 --> 0:18:04.040 gotta cry. You know what you're listening. That's what make 0:18:04.080 --> 0:18:07.240 it feel good. It's all about crime, bro. Like you 0:18:07.920 --> 0:18:11.640 if you don't cry, you you really don't understand opera. 0:18:11.920 --> 0:18:17.560 Like I'm supposed to go to my first opera event 0:18:18.080 --> 0:18:20.000 in a few days, and you know. 0:18:20.600 --> 0:18:21.800 You gotta record yourself crime. 0:18:22.040 --> 0:18:22.440 I'm a cry. 0:18:22.520 --> 0:18:24.159 I gotta see, I gotta I gotta I want to 0:18:24.200 --> 0:18:24.960 see the process. 0:18:25.000 --> 0:18:31.000 I got some tears for him, bro, Like, yeah, but 0:18:31.040 --> 0:18:32.919 you if you, if you can't cry or you're not 0:18:32.960 --> 0:18:33.639 really an actor. 0:18:34.320 --> 0:18:34.840 Oh I could. 0:18:35.359 --> 0:18:37.080 You gotta be able to cry, to be a really 0:18:37.320 --> 0:18:41.640 cry right now, do it right now, right now, right now, 0:18:41.640 --> 0:18:50.920 all right, let me see see you're gonna take me there, 0:18:50.920 --> 0:18:52.840 and I'm gonna be able to come back, Willie, don't 0:18:52.880 --> 0:18:58.639 do you see you see you're big. You're about to 0:18:58.680 --> 0:18:58.879 do it. 0:18:58.960 --> 0:18:59.800 Though I saw us. 0:18:59.840 --> 0:19:02.720 I was, I was, but it's not the easiest place 0:19:02.760 --> 0:19:05.920 to come back from, you know, it's not the easiest place. 0:19:06.119 --> 0:19:10.080 Yeah, you was about to do that, boy, Yeah, but 0:19:10.200 --> 0:19:11.080 I also I saw that. 0:19:11.160 --> 0:19:14.240 Look, yeah, you can see the Wellington quick. 0:19:15.760 --> 0:19:16.000 Yeah. 0:19:16.119 --> 0:19:21.320 Man, it's it's it's crazy because like you know, as 0:19:21.320 --> 0:19:24.119 a youngster, I would always entertain myself and entertain my friends. 0:19:24.119 --> 0:19:25.399 But I never thought that that. 0:19:25.359 --> 0:19:29.240 Meant anything, you know, and all the hardships that I 0:19:29.400 --> 0:19:31.720 really had in my life, I didn't I didn't cry 0:19:31.720 --> 0:19:33.560 about them then. You know, like I lost my dad 0:19:33.560 --> 0:19:36.199 when I was fifteen. He ended up killing himself. You know, 0:19:36.400 --> 0:19:39.600 like we experienced a lot of trauma and New Orleans. Yeah, 0:19:39.760 --> 0:19:42.040 just you know, my friends dying and all of this, 0:19:42.240 --> 0:19:48.000 and it's like you get so immune to the to 0:19:48.080 --> 0:19:52.120 the shock of it that you don't never really take 0:19:52.119 --> 0:19:54.160 the time to cry. So I think when I did 0:19:54.280 --> 0:19:59.160 start figuring out that that was something I could tap 0:19:59.200 --> 0:20:03.119 into and let loose on it, that it became like 0:20:03.119 --> 0:20:06.040 a therapy for me, right, Like me and f Gary Gray. 0:20:06.280 --> 0:20:07.000 I'll never forget. 0:20:07.000 --> 0:20:11.000 We're doing the Detroit scenes and you know, the big 0:20:11.040 --> 0:20:11.840 concert scenes. 0:20:11.840 --> 0:20:13.439 It's like high energy all of that. 0:20:13.880 --> 0:20:15.800 You know, we laughing and you know, I'm going back 0:20:15.800 --> 0:20:18.560 to my trailer for my lunch. And he comes to 0:20:18.600 --> 0:20:23.280 my trailer and he's like, yeah, these hospital scenes, you 0:20:23.320 --> 0:20:25.640 know they're coming up next week, and I just want 0:20:25.640 --> 0:20:29.600 to know what you're gonna do. And I'm like, well, 0:20:29.640 --> 0:20:31.119 you know, besides what's on the script, you know what 0:20:31.160 --> 0:20:33.480 I mean, I'm gonna bring the rain. I'm definitely gonna cry, 0:20:33.560 --> 0:20:36.080 you know what I mean. Like it's it's a process, 0:20:36.119 --> 0:20:37.600 you know what I mean. Because you know, he didn't 0:20:37.640 --> 0:20:40.720 even they didn't even think heterosexual men could get AIDS 0:20:40.760 --> 0:20:41.480 at that time, you know. 0:20:41.600 --> 0:20:42.320 So I told him. 0:20:42.240 --> 0:20:44.439 About the discovery I was gonna have and you know, 0:20:44.640 --> 0:20:46.560 I'm gonna cry, and he was like, well, I want 0:20:46.560 --> 0:20:48.560 you to do it right now, and I was like. 0:20:50.119 --> 0:20:52.240 No, Like I'm having a great day. I don't you 0:20:52.280 --> 0:20:53.960 know what. I don't want to do this right now, 0:20:54.080 --> 0:20:54.680 Like what do you mean? 0:20:55.320 --> 0:20:57.800 He was like, we really had a hot and heavy 0:20:57.880 --> 0:21:00.239 argument in my trailer because I didn't want to show him, 0:21:00.760 --> 0:21:03.320 you know, what I was gonna do. But then on 0:21:03.359 --> 0:21:06.439 the day I'm talking about take one, that's what you're 0:21:06.440 --> 0:21:09.280 seen on the movie because it just was coming down 0:21:09.320 --> 0:21:11.399 and he just was in there hugging me, and I 0:21:11.440 --> 0:21:13.919 was like, I told you, bro, I told you that 0:21:14.040 --> 0:21:15.680 I was gonna be able to get there. But getting 0:21:15.720 --> 0:21:18.040 back ain't the easiest thing in the world because they 0:21:18.080 --> 0:21:20.960 got so much to cry for that we hold back sometimes, 0:21:21.480 --> 0:21:24.320 and they got so much pain inside of us that 0:21:24.520 --> 0:21:27.200 like if it's not channeled properly, you know, you could 0:21:27.280 --> 0:21:28.280 it could pop out and go. 0:21:28.280 --> 0:21:28.840 The wrong way. 0:21:28.960 --> 0:21:32.359 So I'm glad that I do have this, this safe 0:21:32.400 --> 0:21:34.400 place to be able to come and let them tears out, 0:21:34.440 --> 0:21:35.160 like it ain't nothing. 0:21:35.280 --> 0:21:38.240 What's the process getting there and what's the process getting back? 0:21:41.320 --> 0:21:42.640 The process getting there? 0:21:42.760 --> 0:21:45.800 I think, you know, they teach you, like in these 0:21:45.840 --> 0:21:49.479 acting classes to use these breathing techniques, and you know, 0:21:49.560 --> 0:21:52.000 after like different therapy and stuff that I've been through, 0:21:52.040 --> 0:21:55.000 I realized that like when you are alone with your 0:21:55.040 --> 0:21:58.040 thoughts and you try to breathe through it. Right, A 0:21:58.080 --> 0:22:01.679 lot of times you can't help the way your body 0:22:01.720 --> 0:22:03.760 starts to feel, you know what I mean. So I 0:22:03.880 --> 0:22:08.000 just I built this muscle memory to not fight it, 0:22:08.400 --> 0:22:10.200 you know what I'm saying. Once it starts to come, 0:22:10.600 --> 0:22:13.400 let it go, you know. But getting back, I mean, 0:22:13.520 --> 0:22:19.080 like you know, I this this film that's about to 0:22:19.080 --> 0:22:22.639 come out. Now, everything is both you know, I had 0:22:22.680 --> 0:22:25.879 a I had a tough scene. Well you know, I 0:22:25.920 --> 0:22:27.600 had to. I had to let the tears out. But 0:22:27.720 --> 0:22:31.159 like it really pretty much just took everybody coming and 0:22:31.200 --> 0:22:32.960 put their arms around me, you know what I mean. 0:22:33.000 --> 0:22:35.120 And that's that's what you need. You need that family love, 0:22:35.240 --> 0:22:37.280 you know. So we have that moment, we had that 0:22:37.320 --> 0:22:40.520 guy love situation and then it's over. You know, sometimes 0:22:40.520 --> 0:22:41.080 you need that. 0:22:43.000 --> 0:22:43.560 And did he did? 0:22:43.600 --> 0:22:43.960 He hug? 0:22:44.840 --> 0:22:45.200 He did? 0:22:45.359 --> 0:22:45.720 He did. 0:22:45.800 --> 0:22:47.639 But you know, you know how people give you the 0:22:47.680 --> 0:22:50.359 tough hug you good man, You're good, great job man, 0:22:50.400 --> 0:22:53.000 but you good. It's like cause it's you know, like 0:22:53.160 --> 0:22:55.280 a lot of times when people see you go there 0:22:55.280 --> 0:22:57.560 that fast and they're like, all right, well we're gonna 0:22:57.560 --> 0:22:59.160 do a couple of more of these and you turn 0:22:59.280 --> 0:23:02.119 it on and turn it off. It's like, you know, 0:23:02.160 --> 0:23:03.840 it's crazy, but you know how like when you're young 0:23:04.600 --> 0:23:06.119 and you get a whooping and you cry yourself to 0:23:06.119 --> 0:23:08.080 sleep and you wake up feeling like a lot better. 0:23:08.400 --> 0:23:09.879 A lot of times, that's how it is. 0:23:09.960 --> 0:23:12.440 You know, it might feel a little fucked up while 0:23:12.480 --> 0:23:14.800 you're doing it and going through it, but afterwards you 0:23:14.920 --> 0:23:16.280 feel like the best. 0:23:16.600 --> 0:23:20.359 That's why to me, it's it's definitely like a therapy thing. 0:23:20.480 --> 0:23:24.880 I mean, Gottle Boys reloaded podcasts will be right back 0:23:24.960 --> 0:23:25.679 after the squat? 0:23:32.760 --> 0:23:36.320 How did you endust Man? 0:23:36.440 --> 0:23:37.560 Me and jaquevis mad. 0:23:38.280 --> 0:23:40.040 He ended up reaching out to me, just like I 0:23:40.040 --> 0:23:41.879 think he might have just ran across my page or 0:23:41.880 --> 0:23:44.200 something like that. But I was like, at the time 0:23:45.640 --> 0:23:48.200 COVID had just hit, I was living in New York 0:23:49.080 --> 0:23:54.040 and my life was kind of like, you know, it 0:23:54.119 --> 0:23:56.119 was just a little bit slow for everybody like you 0:23:56.200 --> 0:23:58.879 locked in the house, can't really do nothing whatever. So 0:23:58.920 --> 0:24:00.600 he was, I'm gonna send you some book, you know, 0:24:00.720 --> 0:24:07.840 but like you know, you know, nigga sometime say books 0:24:07.880 --> 0:24:10.480 and you'd be like, damn, I ain't gonna, you know, 0:24:10.560 --> 0:24:12.360 all right, send me books, you know, what I mean. 0:24:12.440 --> 0:24:13.280 So it was all good. 0:24:13.680 --> 0:24:15.880 But he sent me the books and I had nothing 0:24:16.000 --> 0:24:19.000 to do, so I just I started reading. But then 0:24:19.040 --> 0:24:21.640 I ain't put the books down. I'm like, damn, it's 0:24:21.720 --> 0:24:23.520 nigga cold, you know what I mean. So I'm just 0:24:23.560 --> 0:24:25.560 checking his books out, like dam he could you know, 0:24:25.640 --> 0:24:30.040 he really dope. So through that we just built a friendship, 0:24:30.119 --> 0:24:32.000 you know what I mean. And we just would always 0:24:32.119 --> 0:24:34.679 just talk and just always be on the phone, and 0:24:34.720 --> 0:24:36.399 we just you know what I mean, We just jokes 0:24:36.480 --> 0:24:41.320 COVID together pretty much like you know, and we started 0:24:41.359 --> 0:24:43.359 talking about maybe, you know, how we could turn one 0:24:43.359 --> 0:24:45.439 of the books into a movie. And one thing just 0:24:45.440 --> 0:24:47.600 sort of led to another, and he was like, man, listen, 0:24:47.760 --> 0:24:50.080 you know I believe in you. If you believe in me, 0:24:50.880 --> 0:24:52.960 let's do a movie. So I'm like, all right, one 0:24:53.000 --> 0:24:55.200 thing just led to another and we ended up doing 0:24:55.200 --> 0:24:55.639 a movie. 0:24:55.720 --> 0:24:57.760 And did you know he was a New York best 0:24:57.760 --> 0:24:59.680 seller before he reached out. 0:25:00.480 --> 0:25:03.840 I didn't. I didn't. I mean I had heard his 0:25:03.840 --> 0:25:06.840 books before, you know. I heard his books because you know, 0:25:06.840 --> 0:25:09.000 they real popular in the black community, him and his wife. 0:25:09.000 --> 0:25:13.400 But I wasn't a big reader, you know, I would 0:25:13.440 --> 0:25:15.360 read scripts and stuff. But you know, like a lot 0:25:15.359 --> 0:25:17.680 of other black children, I just wasn't a big reader. 0:25:17.760 --> 0:25:19.840 When you would read scripts, did you just read your 0:25:19.840 --> 0:25:21.640 own parts and you read the whole script? 0:25:21.840 --> 0:25:21.879 No? 0:25:22.000 --> 0:25:23.760 I always read the whole script. Everybody know. 0:25:23.840 --> 0:25:25.840 When I come on set, like I know my lines, 0:25:25.920 --> 0:25:26.720 I know your lines. 0:25:26.800 --> 0:25:28.080 I was like, I'm just. 0:25:28.480 --> 0:25:31.800 Yeah, because I mean, I feel like you fine, because 0:25:31.840 --> 0:25:33.879 I love movies, you know what I mean. And a 0:25:33.920 --> 0:25:36.040 lot of times you got these little breadcrumbs and these 0:25:36.119 --> 0:25:38.760 little gems that happen, and this is how you know 0:25:38.840 --> 0:25:41.640 good writing. And I feel like, you know, a lot 0:25:41.640 --> 0:25:43.760 of people think that I got where I am in 0:25:43.800 --> 0:25:46.879 my career from the yesest, but it was really the nose. 0:25:46.960 --> 0:25:48.240 It was all the shit that I turned down. 0:25:48.280 --> 0:25:50.520 There was so many scripts that I get sent that 0:25:50.720 --> 0:25:53.200 like I'm looking for key things in it to know 0:25:53.320 --> 0:25:54.879 like if this is gonna be a good film or not. 0:25:55.040 --> 0:25:57.639 You know what I mean, what are you looking for? 0:25:57.680 --> 0:25:59.600 Because that's one of the questions I have to ask you, 0:25:59.680 --> 0:26:02.800 like what do you look for? Because you actually picked 0:26:02.840 --> 0:26:08.880 some of the best roles, like memorable characters, characters that 0:26:09.000 --> 0:26:13.600 have to dive deep and pull out those emotions. Yeah, 0:26:13.840 --> 0:26:14.840 consistent with. 0:26:14.720 --> 0:26:17.800 That, Well, I'm looking for the human pieces of it. Man. 0:26:17.880 --> 0:26:21.240 A lot of times we just see stuff it's like 0:26:21.359 --> 0:26:26.800 on the surface, right, Like I mean, I don't want 0:26:26.800 --> 0:26:28.280 to I don't want to give no examples because I 0:26:28.280 --> 0:26:30.240 don't want to say, oh this is bad acting or 0:26:30.240 --> 0:26:33.320 bad movies. But we see it all the time, you know. 0:26:33.440 --> 0:26:36.080 And and me, I need layers to a man, right, 0:26:36.200 --> 0:26:41.639 Like just using Easy for example, he was the villain 0:26:42.640 --> 0:26:50.840 that everybody hated to hate, right because he did a 0:26:50.880 --> 0:26:53.320 lot of dumb shit and everybody was still rooting for him. 0:26:53.320 --> 0:26:55.400 At the end, nobody wanted Easy to die. 0:26:55.400 --> 0:26:57.720 He about to get his shit together. But in real 0:26:57.760 --> 0:27:00.360 life he was definitely the villain. He was the bad 0:27:00.400 --> 0:27:04.080 guy in the movie. You know, he liked Yeah, he 0:27:04.119 --> 0:27:06.080 didn't have no problem with it because in his mind 0:27:06.119 --> 0:27:10.000 he's thinking, QB, you seventeen years old, your opinion really 0:27:10.000 --> 0:27:14.119 don't count. You ain't got no money, dre you you 0:27:14.200 --> 0:27:17.200 got talent, but you ain't got no money, you know 0:27:17.240 --> 0:27:19.240 what I'm saying. Still, I'm out here risking my life 0:27:19.240 --> 0:27:22.119 for my money. So y'all, ain't my friends, Like this 0:27:22.200 --> 0:27:24.480 is a business transaction. So at the end of the day, 0:27:25.200 --> 0:27:28.800 without no money, all of these fantasies that y'all have 0:27:28.880 --> 0:27:31.399 about being superstars and all of this good stuff is 0:27:31.440 --> 0:27:33.680 out the window, you know. And at the time they 0:27:33.720 --> 0:27:36.280 really was just thinking about being hood stars. Easy was 0:27:36.320 --> 0:27:39.520 thinking bigger than them. So for him, he was the 0:27:39.560 --> 0:27:41.919 mastermind and the money behind it. So how do you 0:27:41.960 --> 0:27:45.560 go to somebody and tell them I deserve xyz that 0:27:45.600 --> 0:27:46.960 they ain't never seen, you. 0:27:47.000 --> 0:27:47.480 Know what I mean? 0:27:47.560 --> 0:27:49.560 Like these guys went viral and it was just hand 0:27:49.600 --> 0:27:54.359 to hand situations. So every character that I try to 0:27:54.440 --> 0:27:59.760 find has layers. Rather they be good, bad, ugly, but 0:27:59.840 --> 0:28:01.800 they they got layers of a man and they need 0:28:01.800 --> 0:28:03.800 to be able to show that, you know what I'm saying, 0:28:03.840 --> 0:28:07.280 Because I'm one of them people who I really believe, 0:28:07.400 --> 0:28:08.959 Like I mean, you could feel when people got an 0:28:09.000 --> 0:28:12.560 ugly energy about themselves, right, or some kind of demonic 0:28:12.680 --> 0:28:15.840 energy about themselves. But for the most part, I don't 0:28:15.840 --> 0:28:18.600 really believe in good people and bad people. I think 0:28:18.640 --> 0:28:22.399 it's just people and there's decisions on the table, you know, 0:28:22.640 --> 0:28:24.800 and like all of us have made a bad decision 0:28:24.840 --> 0:28:27.240 here or there in our life, or you know, made 0:28:27.280 --> 0:28:30.520 somebody feel a certain way, you know, Like everybody ain't 0:28:30.520 --> 0:28:33.919 gonna love you. Everybody ain't gonna love your opinions. And 0:28:34.400 --> 0:28:39.280 I think that's what humanizes roles and humanizes movies the most, 0:28:39.800 --> 0:28:41.760 you know, just being able to show them different layers. 0:28:41.840 --> 0:28:43.920 I'm a seventeen layer cake, so I need to be 0:28:44.200 --> 0:28:44.960 to show people. 0:28:45.200 --> 0:28:49.360 You know, you say everybody, you don't believe in good 0:28:49.360 --> 0:28:56.560 and bad people, just people what you're saying on that 0:28:56.640 --> 0:28:59.680 with And I think it is some demonic ass people 0:28:59.760 --> 0:29:02.600 out that. Yeah, you do you think that? Do you 0:29:02.640 --> 0:29:06.520 think that somebody like like say Dylan Ruth who shot 0:29:06.600 --> 0:29:08.680 up the black people at the church, You don't think 0:29:08.680 --> 0:29:11.880 he was a bad person. You think he just a person? 0:29:11.960 --> 0:29:13.719 Well, you know, I'm also like, I ain't gonna say 0:29:13.760 --> 0:29:17.000 I'm a conspiracy theorist, but I do believe that agendas 0:29:17.040 --> 0:29:21.200 be pushed a lot of times and situations, and like 0:29:23.080 --> 0:29:26.000 children are so easily influenced, Like they do have a 0:29:26.000 --> 0:29:28.600 lot of demonic energies out here, right, But do I 0:29:28.640 --> 0:29:31.800 believe that that kid was born hating black people and 0:29:31.880 --> 0:29:33.440 said to himself, as soon as I get a chance, 0:29:33.440 --> 0:29:34.640 I'm gonna shoot up a black church. 0:29:34.920 --> 0:29:35.640 Absolutely not. 0:29:36.000 --> 0:29:38.080 Now, whatever took over his mind at the time to 0:29:38.080 --> 0:29:40.880 make him go do that foolishness is a whole different story, 0:29:41.160 --> 0:29:44.360 you know, cause, like I don't know the dude named 0:29:44.400 --> 0:29:46.640 the other white boy who shot up the grocery store 0:29:46.640 --> 0:29:48.520 and was only killing black people, remember, and he ran 0:29:48.640 --> 0:29:50.240 up on a white person who was like, oh, I'm sorry. 0:29:50.280 --> 0:29:51.200 He went to the next person. 0:29:51.360 --> 0:29:53.840 But the first guy that he killed, the security guard 0:29:53.840 --> 0:29:56.440 who was at the door, invented the engine that ran 0:29:56.480 --> 0:29:58.640 off water and was just on the news like two 0:29:58.680 --> 0:30:01.040 weeks before that. They ain't trying to have that, so 0:30:01.080 --> 0:30:02.920 they gonna shoot him and then make it look like 0:30:02.960 --> 0:30:06.880 a random mass mass shooting, you know what I mean. 0:30:06.920 --> 0:30:10.680 So now when I'm starting to see these shootings, it's 0:30:10.760 --> 0:30:13.840 getting more and more popular and a little bit crazy now, 0:30:13.880 --> 0:30:17.600 and I feel like it's an agenda to cover up 0:30:17.600 --> 0:30:21.520 what's really happening behind whoever they are out there looking for. 0:30:21.560 --> 0:30:24.840 At the time, Well, I heard that theory. I heard 0:30:24.920 --> 0:30:27.719 that that was people saying that, you know, this happened 0:30:27.720 --> 0:30:30.960 because this guy, this black guy, invented a car that 0:30:30.960 --> 0:30:33.440 could run off water, and they can't let that happen. 0:30:33.560 --> 0:30:35.720 And we know that those things do happen. We know 0:30:35.760 --> 0:30:40.080 that they do try to silence black people who who 0:30:40.160 --> 0:30:45.320 have ideas and information that can change the world because 0:30:45.360 --> 0:30:47.960 they don't want to. They don't want to encourage black 0:30:48.040 --> 0:30:49.400 kids to think bigger. 0:30:49.680 --> 0:30:51.680 Right, And then on top of that, you know, it's 0:30:51.680 --> 0:30:53.200 like if they give the cure to AIDS, all the 0:30:53.200 --> 0:30:55.960 people who've been studying age making eighty ninety thousand a 0:30:56.040 --> 0:30:59.680 year studying AIDS now don't have a job that exists anymore, 0:31:00.040 --> 0:31:00.960 or so they gonna pluck you. 0:31:01.200 --> 0:31:07.360 But here's my right with that theory. They don't have 0:31:07.480 --> 0:31:11.080 to kill so many people just to kill this one guy. 0:31:11.360 --> 0:31:14.200 Like keep in mind, the rest of us didn't even 0:31:14.240 --> 0:31:17.440 know about this invention until after the dude got killed. 0:31:17.760 --> 0:31:20.440 So if they just wanted to kill that guy, I mean, 0:31:20.880 --> 0:31:24.280 why not just get, you know, one guy to run 0:31:24.360 --> 0:31:28.480 up on him. How about this some guy tried to 0:31:28.480 --> 0:31:31.800 act like he's stealing somebody's store. He acosta guy, the 0:31:31.840 --> 0:31:36.400 guy blows his brains out, nobody questions anything. They know 0:31:36.480 --> 0:31:39.400 how to kill. They know how to kill, and set 0:31:39.440 --> 0:31:42.640 it up to make it look like that was some 0:31:42.720 --> 0:31:47.600 type of disagreement. Like, especially when it comes to black people, 0:31:47.600 --> 0:31:50.960 they'll immediately try to get make it like a hood situation, 0:31:51.400 --> 0:31:53.959 like somebody just got out of pocket. They know how 0:31:54.000 --> 0:31:56.360 to do that. Why kill so many people? 0:31:56.840 --> 0:31:57.840 Well, I think. 0:31:59.480 --> 0:32:04.000 Historic Black people have never thrived well in chaos because 0:32:04.000 --> 0:32:07.640 we're so passionate, and the first thing we do when 0:32:07.680 --> 0:32:10.719 we really believe some shit is tear our own shit up, 0:32:11.480 --> 0:32:13.680 you know what I mean. We've been our worst enemy 0:32:14.480 --> 0:32:18.160 for a long time, in my opinion, you know, so 0:32:18.200 --> 0:32:21.040 the first thing they want to do is hand us 0:32:21.120 --> 0:32:24.600 chaos and say, yeah, get mad, y'all get mad, everybody 0:32:24.640 --> 0:32:28.640 get mad, because then we start we completely forget about 0:32:28.680 --> 0:32:31.280 what's really happening in the situation. Because this is how 0:32:31.320 --> 0:32:36.880 I look at it, right, Like I know a few 0:32:36.880 --> 0:32:40.160 police and they wanted to be cops their entire life. 0:32:41.400 --> 0:32:47.600 They waiting on opportunities to do some heroic shit. What 0:32:47.840 --> 0:32:51.280 in any cop right mind after all of these people 0:32:51.320 --> 0:32:58.920 being shot up, that yo approach to this person who 0:32:58.960 --> 0:33:00.720 just did all of this killing and it's so sweet. 0:33:00.800 --> 0:33:03.160 You're taking these people to get burgers and you're putting 0:33:03.160 --> 0:33:06.000 bulletproof vests on them, and you know what I mean, 0:33:06.160 --> 0:33:09.440 Like with black people, it's not like that police is 0:33:09.440 --> 0:33:10.040 beating you up. 0:33:10.080 --> 0:33:11.320 They're killing you, they're shooting you. 0:33:11.400 --> 0:33:13.920 So to me, that was really what I'm looking at like, wait, 0:33:13.960 --> 0:33:16.760 they why they ain't just take this opportunity to kill 0:33:16.760 --> 0:33:18.200 this dude. They just had a mass shooting out here 0:33:18.240 --> 0:33:22.200 in Texas. He was a brown guy, you know, some 0:33:22.560 --> 0:33:25.560 kind of hispanic. Guess what, when it was all said 0:33:25.600 --> 0:33:27.959 and done, he was laid out, he was on the ground, 0:33:28.000 --> 0:33:31.920 he was finished. They killed him, you know. And I 0:33:31.960 --> 0:33:34.480 can't say that, like, you know, every one of them 0:33:34.560 --> 0:33:37.640 is part of the agenda. But I'm saying when it's 0:33:37.640 --> 0:33:40.040 the white folks who go do that, they never end 0:33:40.160 --> 0:33:41.840 up killing them and we never know what happens to 0:33:41.880 --> 0:33:42.760 him at the end of the day. 0:33:42.840 --> 0:33:47.360 I think it's as simple as he's one of us. Example, 0:33:47.560 --> 0:33:49.760 Like you know, he did what I wanted to do, 0:33:50.320 --> 0:33:52.560 you know, right, So of course I'm going to treat 0:33:52.600 --> 0:33:55.200 him with humanity because I would want to be treated 0:33:55.240 --> 0:33:58.240 with humanity if I did that to them. 0:33:58.520 --> 0:34:01.960 Like absolute. 0:34:03.680 --> 0:34:08.640 They are inhumane. Main people who behave that way are inhumane. 0:34:08.680 --> 0:34:12.319 They're uncivilized mus And and let me go back to 0:34:12.719 --> 0:34:16.560 a statement you just made about us being our worst enemy. 0:34:16.560 --> 0:34:21.480 I've heard that. I've heard that many many times from 0:34:22.400 --> 0:34:27.320 black people, especially online, and assuming that they were black, 0:34:27.600 --> 0:34:32.239 you know, online. The reason why I disagree with that 0:34:32.360 --> 0:34:36.279 is because that is a tall statement to say that 0:34:36.320 --> 0:34:40.560 we're our worst enemy. Uh, and we've been our worst enemy. 0:34:41.080 --> 0:34:48.600 We black people have never enslaved our entire population of 0:34:48.680 --> 0:34:56.760 people in any country. We we We didn't stamp unborn 0:34:56.880 --> 0:34:59.800 babies out of their mother's wounds. We didn't feed babies 0:34:59.840 --> 0:35:06.200 to alligators. We didn't take plows and snatched teeth out 0:35:06.200 --> 0:35:09.120 of the mouths of human beings who didn't want to work, 0:35:09.520 --> 0:35:12.080 and so they decided that because I don't want to work, 0:35:12.280 --> 0:35:14.280 I'm not going to work for you anymore, I'd rather stove. 0:35:14.680 --> 0:35:19.480 We forced them to eat liquids, so we snatched that 0:35:19.600 --> 0:35:22.640 te pull their teeth out of their mouth. We didn't 0:35:22.680 --> 0:35:26.600 bomb Tussle, Oklahoma. We didn't raid Rosewood and burn it 0:35:26.640 --> 0:35:28.759 down to the ground. 0:35:28.239 --> 0:35:28.920 We didn't. 0:35:29.400 --> 0:35:35.839 We didn't. We didn't implement Jim Crow or the Tuskegee experiment. 0:35:36.640 --> 0:35:40.400 You know, we didn't. We didn't create mass incarceration and 0:35:41.000 --> 0:35:45.919 our welfare to purposely target black families and divide them. 0:35:46.120 --> 0:35:49.759 We didn't bring crack cocaine into the neighborhood and disseminated, 0:35:50.520 --> 0:35:56.480 disseminated an entire uh population of people. We we didn't 0:35:56.920 --> 0:35:59.120 we didn't do any of those things. Those are a 0:35:59.200 --> 0:36:00.680 major tries. 0:36:01.040 --> 0:36:02.839 Yeah, that's fact, yes fact. 0:36:03.040 --> 0:36:08.560 Yes we do have some uncivilized MutS in our race, 0:36:08.800 --> 0:36:12.760 Yes we do. But that is a very small group 0:36:12.840 --> 0:36:15.799 of people when you look at our entire population, when 0:36:15.840 --> 0:36:19.880 you look when you really think about our plight in America, 0:36:21.880 --> 0:36:25.640 we've only been freed legally freed just over one hundred 0:36:25.719 --> 0:36:28.560 and what sixty years or so, one hundred and seventy years. 0:36:29.040 --> 0:36:31.400 That is a very short time when you think about 0:36:31.440 --> 0:36:34.919 the overall accomplishments of black people, we think about all 0:36:35.000 --> 0:36:39.160 of our accomplishments. Let's not look at just the people 0:36:39.200 --> 0:36:42.799 who are the Beyonces and the jay Z's. It's what 0:36:42.840 --> 0:36:45.680 they try to get us to focus on, willly D's 0:36:45.760 --> 0:36:47.040 and the Jason Mitchell's. 0:36:47.280 --> 0:36:48.160 Right. 0:36:48.640 --> 0:36:51.719 They try to get us to focus on people who 0:36:51.760 --> 0:36:56.239 are who are in very special categories. 0:36:56.320 --> 0:36:58.840 Right, we have. 0:37:00.239 --> 0:37:08.480 Produced thousands of doctors and lawyers, tens of thousands dollars, educators, 0:37:08.880 --> 0:37:16.160 inventors uh, entrepreneurs uh, just so and just every day 0:37:16.320 --> 0:37:21.920 working class people who despite the odds, put their children 0:37:22.000 --> 0:37:27.800 through school and kept them out of the long grips 0:37:27.840 --> 0:37:33.680 of Johnny law. You know, we have so many success stories. 0:37:34.120 --> 0:37:37.000 But what happens I think often to not not I think, 0:37:37.040 --> 0:37:42.680 but I know, is that they use our worst as 0:37:42.719 --> 0:37:46.200 an example of who we are collectively, and they use 0:37:47.000 --> 0:37:49.879 and they use their worst. I mean, they use our 0:37:49.920 --> 0:37:52.480 worst as an example of who we are collectively, and 0:37:52.520 --> 0:37:55.879 they use their best as an example of who they 0:37:55.920 --> 0:37:56.759 are collectively. 0:37:57.040 --> 0:38:00.600 And oftentimes, I look at what Jesus. 0:38:00.360 --> 0:38:03.719 And I think. I think all the times oftentimes we 0:38:03.880 --> 0:38:10.319 get brainwashed by by that psychological war fact that they're 0:38:10.360 --> 0:38:13.319 playing on us when we get born down so much 0:38:13.360 --> 0:38:15.279 and we tend to stay just like a lot of 0:38:15.280 --> 0:38:17.600 people that aren't black go like, damn, what's wrong with 0:38:17.600 --> 0:38:18.200 the Negroes? 0:38:18.480 --> 0:38:18.600 Right? 0:38:18.760 --> 0:38:20.920 They can't get it together? And we're starting, Man, we 0:38:20.960 --> 0:38:21.720 can't get it together? 0:38:21.760 --> 0:38:23.040 We are you know right? 0:38:23.239 --> 0:38:25.120 Well, see what the way I look at it, right, 0:38:25.239 --> 0:38:28.919 is that, like you said, they've said, they've put these 0:38:28.960 --> 0:38:32.240 systems in place for us to fight each other. Because 0:38:33.360 --> 0:38:37.799 like even even to say something as small as we're 0:38:37.840 --> 0:38:42.200 the minority, when you ask yourself for real, like where 0:38:42.280 --> 0:38:44.000 really are we the minority? 0:38:45.160 --> 0:38:47.640 Those numbers would change? Right Like you ever been in Hawaii? 0:38:48.440 --> 0:38:50.280 Many I used to vacation all the time. 0:38:50.120 --> 0:38:51.680 So you heard a Holly Day before. 0:38:52.280 --> 0:38:56.520 I haven't, so Holly's is what they call white people, right, 0:38:56.880 --> 0:38:59.040 you know, Holly Day. They just beat up all the 0:38:59.080 --> 0:39:01.520 white people. It's like a it's like a holiday. But 0:39:01.719 --> 0:39:05.279 everybody knows, like it's it's all good. Like that goes 0:39:05.320 --> 0:39:08.040 on currently, INAII, Yeah, it's look it up. You can 0:39:08.080 --> 0:39:11.640 google it. The Hawaiians, everybody else that ain't white. 0:39:11.640 --> 0:39:14.600 They just beat the white people up. Yeah, it's a thing, right, 0:39:14.640 --> 0:39:15.880 So imagine. 0:39:15.480 --> 0:39:17.200 Well what days do they go out there? 0:39:17.640 --> 0:39:19.719 I don't know, we got to google it. Fine, fine, 0:39:19.760 --> 0:39:23.080 Holly Day. I think it's h O W l e y. 0:39:23.120 --> 0:39:28.680 Holly like that. 0:39:29.840 --> 0:39:32.480 But I just hate the white people who hate me man, right, right, 0:39:32.520 --> 0:39:33.160 I'm the same way. 0:39:33.520 --> 0:39:33.719 I don't. 0:39:34.520 --> 0:39:36.160 I hate the one, and I hate the black people 0:39:36.160 --> 0:39:38.279 who hate me too. I hate an anybody who hate me. 0:39:38.280 --> 0:39:40.440 You don't like me, I don't like you. Man with me, 0:39:40.440 --> 0:39:41.000 I rock with. 0:39:40.960 --> 0:39:41.440 You, right? 0:39:41.680 --> 0:39:43.640 But I think you know, these systems have been put 0:39:43.640 --> 0:39:46.920 in place to, like you said, brainwash us, right, and 0:39:46.960 --> 0:39:49.719 then they set it up to where like you know, 0:39:49.880 --> 0:39:52.600 like for every fourth grader that fails the leap test, 0:39:52.640 --> 0:39:55.000 they build a jail cell. You know what I'm saying, 0:39:55.120 --> 0:39:57.960 like they they figuring it, they figuring out how to 0:39:58.080 --> 0:40:00.480 again make you a slave. They're gonna put these systems 0:40:00.480 --> 0:40:07.239 in place. But being from such a violent city, you know, 0:40:07.400 --> 0:40:14.440 and what I see around me is it's kind of 0:40:14.480 --> 0:40:18.280 crazy because I'm like, yo, I've never seen the police 0:40:18.320 --> 0:40:20.680 actually kill somebody. You know, Like I know a lot 0:40:20.719 --> 0:40:22.520 of people who carry guns all the time, and they're 0:40:22.520 --> 0:40:25.400 not carrying guns for the white boys, you know what 0:40:25.480 --> 0:40:28.400 I mean. So like that's what I mean by times 0:40:28.440 --> 0:40:31.239 like we're our worst enemy because like we don't have 0:40:31.239 --> 0:40:34.399 no money, so it's like, oh, made the toughest guy win, 0:40:34.880 --> 0:40:36.480 or everybody want to be in charge. 0:40:36.640 --> 0:40:37.359 Or when we do. 0:40:39.080 --> 0:40:42.160 Decide to have a movement that we're pushing forward, we 0:40:42.239 --> 0:40:44.239 leave with violence a lot of the times, you know 0:40:44.280 --> 0:40:46.440 what I mean. And we're just so much smarter than that, 0:40:46.520 --> 0:40:48.440 And like we got to be in this world where 0:40:49.440 --> 0:40:51.520 where we pivoting, you know what I mean, And we 0:40:51.600 --> 0:40:53.480 got to do that on a great level. Like you know, 0:40:53.520 --> 0:40:57.279 you see some guys like like nineteen Keys, who you know, 0:40:57.520 --> 0:41:00.440 they're getting huge groups of black people together and talking 0:41:00.480 --> 0:41:08.640 about things that's that's sort of like solution based, you know, 0:41:08.800 --> 0:41:11.440 they trying to make people think about it, but like 0:41:12.760 --> 0:41:15.120 that's all fun and dandy, but like, what's the plan, 0:41:16.360 --> 0:41:18.480 you know? And I think that's what we gotta start feeling, 0:41:18.520 --> 0:41:20.080 like what's the plan, What we're gonna do, What we're 0:41:20.080 --> 0:41:22.600 gonna do for each other, what situations we're gonna set 0:41:22.680 --> 0:41:26.279 up for each other, because we still pressing these these 0:41:26.320 --> 0:41:28.400 things to our a lot of our kids and a 0:41:28.400 --> 0:41:31.120 lot of our families that like it's still putting them 0:41:31.200 --> 0:41:33.440 up top and making it seem like white is right. 0:41:33.480 --> 0:41:35.279 And they doing this all over the world, you know 0:41:35.320 --> 0:41:35.759 what I mean. 0:41:35.800 --> 0:41:39.680 And you see so much chaos happening in these black communities, 0:41:39.719 --> 0:41:41.799 and I just I just think it's sad that, like, 0:41:43.200 --> 0:41:45.400 you know, it's somebody job to wake up and go 0:41:45.400 --> 0:41:46.600 spin on the ops. 0:41:46.320 --> 0:41:48.200 Every morning, Like what are you thinking about? 0:41:48.360 --> 0:41:50.080 You know what I mean? That's crazy to me. I 0:41:50.160 --> 0:41:53.239 just I can't. I can't take that land down. 0:41:53.719 --> 0:41:59.960 I gotta acknowledge everything that you said just now as truth. However, 0:42:01.520 --> 0:42:05.840 those black people who do behave like uncivilized mus or 0:42:06.000 --> 0:42:14.080 microcosm of society facts right overall American society. And so 0:42:14.600 --> 0:42:19.120 if you live amongst black people who behave that way, 0:42:19.840 --> 0:42:23.040 and even when you look at New Orleans as a whole. 0:42:23.680 --> 0:42:28.759 Most Black people I know from New Orleans or law abiding, 0:42:29.120 --> 0:42:30.320 hard working citizens. 0:42:30.360 --> 0:42:30.840 Facts. 0:42:31.480 --> 0:42:34.799 It is that small in the projects here or the 0:42:34.840 --> 0:42:39.319 projects there are the projects there. It's where all the 0:42:39.360 --> 0:42:42.239 bullshit comes from. They are not the majority of black 0:42:42.280 --> 0:42:46.680 people in New Orleans, you know. So it's easy if 0:42:46.960 --> 0:42:49.680 you come from that to see and that's all you see, 0:42:49.760 --> 0:42:52.759 to just say, Okay, maybe that's what it is. But 0:42:53.200 --> 0:42:55.800 I was. I was able to get outside of Fifth 0:42:55.840 --> 0:42:57.160 Ward and I saw a lot of that too. But 0:42:57.200 --> 0:42:59.680 I was able to get outside of Fifth Ward early on, 0:43:00.200 --> 0:43:04.120 and I saw black people living differently. I saw people 0:43:04.120 --> 0:43:07.640 behaving differently. I was able to move overseas to Azerbaijan, 0:43:08.520 --> 0:43:12.600 and in that country at the time, I lived in Bahku. 0:43:13.560 --> 0:43:17.360 Bahku is similar to Houston in numbers in the population 0:43:17.760 --> 0:43:20.600 about four million people at the time and I lived there. 0:43:20.960 --> 0:43:25.600 Houston had about four million people. The difference about Baiku 0:43:25.680 --> 0:43:29.239 experienced about one murder a month, and typically it was 0:43:29.320 --> 0:43:38.719 domestic wife's type of situation. In Houston. Comparably, Houston was 0:43:38.760 --> 0:43:43.600 averaging about fifteen murders a week at that time. Now, 0:43:44.920 --> 0:43:52.280 I also saw lines of men on the streets in suits, 0:43:52.760 --> 0:43:56.040 and these suits were like not really in good condition, 0:43:56.719 --> 0:43:59.640 but they were on the streets early in the morning, 0:43:59.719 --> 0:44:01.880 and they waiting on people to pick them up. You know, 0:44:02.040 --> 0:44:05.480 like in Houston and other parts, and even in Dallas 0:44:05.480 --> 0:44:11.640 you see Mexicans out in that gas stations and kind 0:44:11.640 --> 0:44:13.920 of stuff waiting on some jobs. Well, this is how 0:44:13.960 --> 0:44:16.960 these guys would do. But it would be hundreds and 0:44:17.560 --> 0:44:22.239 hundreds and rows of guys, I mean sometimes like for 0:44:22.520 --> 0:44:26.320 a solid mile, just straight on both sides of the streets. 0:44:27.160 --> 0:44:32.839 And some people were still sleeping on dirt floors at 0:44:32.880 --> 0:44:40.120 the time. Okay, some people, right, And I'm comparing it 0:44:40.200 --> 0:44:45.200 to the US, and I'm going like, well, they're poor, 0:44:45.680 --> 0:44:49.399 They're really really poor. Why aren't they killing each other? 0:44:50.520 --> 0:44:53.680 Why aren't they robbing? Because because we like we often say, 0:44:53.960 --> 0:44:56.600 well we're killing each other and were hurting and we're 0:44:56.640 --> 0:44:59.600 fighting and we robbing because we ain't got nothing. But 0:44:59.680 --> 0:45:02.400 they ain't got nothing either. They really ain't got nothing, 0:45:03.040 --> 0:45:07.480 and they're not robbing, they're not killing. And what I 0:45:07.560 --> 0:45:14.360 surmise is how the government communicates with his people. Leadership 0:45:14.400 --> 0:45:19.440 starts at the top, and these people have put a 0:45:19.480 --> 0:45:24.399 premium on life. They put a premium on family. They 0:45:24.400 --> 0:45:30.000 put a premium on community. We don't. I was with 0:45:30.040 --> 0:45:33.600 my family on our way home and we saw a fight. 0:45:33.760 --> 0:45:36.040 We looked off the left. I saw this a fight. 0:45:38.120 --> 0:45:43.200 It was like old women, children, men beating up this 0:45:43.360 --> 0:45:46.680 one guy. They were whooping his ass. They were serving 0:45:47.719 --> 0:45:49.600 or they were serving them all kinds of pieces. 0:45:49.640 --> 0:45:49.799 Bro. 0:45:50.680 --> 0:45:54.040 The dudes was punching them, killing them. Little kids was 0:45:54.160 --> 0:45:57.680 kicking them. Old lady, A couple old ladies had broomstick 0:45:57.680 --> 0:45:59.719 and they were hitting them in slow motion with the broomstick. 0:46:03.120 --> 0:46:05.280 So I turned the drive and I asked my drive. 0:46:05.360 --> 0:46:07.640 I say, say, man, what's going on? He said, I 0:46:07.680 --> 0:46:10.280 don't know. I find out. So he dropped us off 0:46:10.520 --> 0:46:13.360 and he went back to see what was up. He 0:46:13.480 --> 0:46:16.759 comes back and he said, yeah, that guy beat up 0:46:16.760 --> 0:46:21.280 his girlfriend, and so they beat him up. The whole 0:46:21.960 --> 0:46:27.960 neighborhood whooped his ass. They don't play that in Houston 0:46:28.000 --> 0:46:31.839 and America. We see something. Mind your own bitiness, your 0:46:31.840 --> 0:46:36.040 own bitness. And that's why our women and children are. 0:46:36.000 --> 0:46:38.800 Unsafe right because possible. 0:46:38.920 --> 0:46:42.560 That's why our boys are walking around at thirteen years old, 0:46:42.719 --> 0:46:48.040 ten years old with guns in their waistband. Because the 0:46:48.239 --> 0:46:52.560 people that are in this country and the people, even 0:46:52.560 --> 0:46:56.840 in their neighborhoods, instead of the men in the neighborhoods 0:46:56.880 --> 0:47:01.080 protecting the neighborhood and keeping them safe. They look at 0:47:01.160 --> 0:47:05.799 the boys as competition, right, you know, they're trying to 0:47:06.480 --> 0:47:08.840 high at you fifteen years old. You got a grown 0:47:08.960 --> 0:47:12.160 man twenty thirty some years old trying to get at 0:47:12.160 --> 0:47:14.880 the same girl you're trying to get at. So they 0:47:14.920 --> 0:47:19.720 see you as competition. And in many cases, the women 0:47:19.760 --> 0:47:24.439 see the girls, the younger girls, as competition, right, right, right. 0:47:24.960 --> 0:47:32.320 But I surmised that the reason, the fundamental reason is values. Brother, 0:47:33.080 --> 0:47:37.440 It comes down to values. At one point, I was 0:47:37.480 --> 0:47:42.360 a source of a lot of the pain in my community. 0:47:42.600 --> 0:47:48.440 You know, I was very violent, and so I made 0:47:48.480 --> 0:47:50.680 I contributed to some of. 0:47:50.560 --> 0:47:51.600 That, right right. 0:47:52.480 --> 0:47:56.759 It wasn't until I learned to love myself that I 0:47:56.840 --> 0:47:58.880 learned to love of other people. And I said, you 0:47:58.920 --> 0:48:01.120 know what, that ain't right now. I started actually taking 0:48:01.200 --> 0:48:04.840 up for people, and I became a protector, you know, 0:48:04.960 --> 0:48:09.360 instead of an agitator, you know, instead of provocator, I 0:48:09.440 --> 0:48:13.000 became a protector. And once I did that, I decided, 0:48:13.120 --> 0:48:16.800 ain't nobody coming in this neighborhood and bullying nobody and 0:48:16.920 --> 0:48:19.440 nobody pushing nobody around. You ain't coming to beat up 0:48:19.520 --> 0:48:24.239 nobody right this neighborhood. And once I put my foot down, 0:48:25.560 --> 0:48:28.319 the other guys around me did the same thing and 0:48:28.400 --> 0:48:32.360 it was peace. And so the men, it really starts 0:48:32.360 --> 0:48:34.040 with the men. They got to step up because the 0:48:34.040 --> 0:48:36.399 men are the ones who are and the boys are 0:48:36.440 --> 0:48:38.560 really the ones who are doing all the killing. So 0:48:39.480 --> 0:48:43.400 everybody like to talk about leadership. I'm a leader, I'm 0:48:43.400 --> 0:48:45.680 a man, I'm this whatever, right, But. 0:48:47.320 --> 0:48:52.520 You're right, yeah, I totally get it. And see that's 0:48:52.520 --> 0:48:56.359 why me and and everybody around us we realized how 0:48:56.440 --> 0:49:00.680 much influence film and television has on a lot of 0:49:00.719 --> 0:49:03.920 this music, all of that. It has a huge influence. 0:49:04.440 --> 0:49:06.520 Like look at you know what's going on with Jomrad. 0:49:06.640 --> 0:49:07.160 You can't. 0:49:07.640 --> 0:49:09.399 I mean, I mean he's a young guy twenty three 0:49:09.440 --> 0:49:12.319 years old, which you can't tell me that that influence 0:49:12.360 --> 0:49:15.760 ain't coming from TV and film and the music. 0:49:15.920 --> 0:49:18.279 And because you're not living that way. 0:49:19.080 --> 0:49:22.520 It's it's just but it's the culture putting so much 0:49:22.520 --> 0:49:24.359 pressure on people that the first thing you do when 0:49:24.360 --> 0:49:25.759 you get money is try to go and get some 0:49:25.840 --> 0:49:27.719 holes and try to do this in the holes like 0:49:27.760 --> 0:49:29.600 I want a real nigga. I want a nigga do 0:49:29.640 --> 0:49:30.920 this and do that, and do this and do that, 0:49:30.960 --> 0:49:33.719 and you're like, well shit, nigga g herbo out the hood. 0:49:33.760 --> 0:49:35.520 You know what I'm saying, Let me so I won't 0:49:35.560 --> 0:49:37.840 be flying were a push heisty mass too. And I'm 0:49:37.880 --> 0:49:40.560 but that ain't that ain't your life though, you know 0:49:40.600 --> 0:49:43.640 what I mean, because anybody who knows that life for 0:49:43.719 --> 0:49:46.719 real ain't got nothing. They're not glorifying it at all. 0:49:46.840 --> 0:49:48.520 They really just rapping by this so they can get 0:49:48.520 --> 0:49:49.359 some money and never got. 0:49:49.280 --> 0:49:49.759 To go back. 0:49:50.280 --> 0:49:50.520 You know. 0:49:50.880 --> 0:49:55.799 So I created a foundation called Dream Seeker that ultimately 0:49:55.880 --> 0:49:59.880 is a film education platform that's allowing people to you know, 0:50:01.239 --> 0:50:04.360 we training people in every department behind the camera. They 0:50:04.400 --> 0:50:08.480 can come on set, get trained, work for union hours, 0:50:08.520 --> 0:50:11.400 and pretty much gearing them to work anywhere in the world. 0:50:12.320 --> 0:50:15.200 We already got this projected to be a global situation 0:50:15.400 --> 0:50:18.480 because a thing that's not happening is that we don't 0:50:18.560 --> 0:50:22.000 have no direct contact with Africa for real. They not 0:50:22.080 --> 0:50:24.920 teaching Africans about slavery, so they looking at us, we 0:50:25.080 --> 0:50:27.799 looking at them. It ain't no unity and none of this, 0:50:28.239 --> 0:50:29.440 you know what I mean, and then when they do 0:50:29.480 --> 0:50:32.279 show us Africa, it's motherfuckers with pot bellies and you 0:50:32.320 --> 0:50:34.680 know what I mean, everybody starving, flies in their eyes. 0:50:34.680 --> 0:50:36.400 They ain't got no shoes on their feet, whatever it 0:50:36.480 --> 0:50:38.160 may be. And they ain't gonna tell you. Oh, some 0:50:38.239 --> 0:50:41.600 of these people, it's convoying and race. You know, some 0:50:41.640 --> 0:50:45.400 of these people got so much money that is crazy. 0:50:45.400 --> 0:50:47.760 It's all kind of billionaires and all kind of people 0:50:47.800 --> 0:50:49.600 that we never even heard of. And they don't want 0:50:49.600 --> 0:50:52.600 to shed light on that because it'll start to give 0:50:52.680 --> 0:50:57.239 us this different picture of ourselves, you know what I mean, 0:50:57.320 --> 0:50:59.319 And you know, just go way back, like they've been 0:50:59.320 --> 0:51:01.799 trying to break our mind since White Jesus, you know. 0:51:01.920 --> 0:51:07.840 But like I think, through all this chaos, like you said, 0:51:08.239 --> 0:51:10.360 where does the leadership start? So I know, okay, I 0:51:10.360 --> 0:51:13.279 got my little piece of film television. All right, let's 0:51:13.320 --> 0:51:15.239 do it like this, and we can make movies about 0:51:15.239 --> 0:51:17.000 whatever we want to make the movies about. But the 0:51:17.120 --> 0:51:20.920 education process and the jobs that we give people and 0:51:20.960 --> 0:51:23.480 all of these different things I believe will change something. 0:51:24.320 --> 0:51:26.520 And I'm like, I might not even live to see that. 0:51:27.200 --> 0:51:29.879 But if this go all the way around the world, 0:51:29.880 --> 0:51:32.440 I know, for sure, I ain't gonna leave it like 0:51:32.520 --> 0:51:36.000 I can. And I think if we have that mindset 0:51:36.320 --> 0:51:39.680 to not leave the world the same way we found it, 0:51:40.000 --> 0:51:43.400 and we're starting with ourself, it's gonna be a beautiful place, 0:51:43.760 --> 0:51:45.880 you know what I mean, because it ain't about us 0:51:45.920 --> 0:51:47.600 being divided. Like I don't want to live in the 0:51:47.640 --> 0:51:50.000 world with just black folks, you know what I mean. 0:51:50.000 --> 0:51:52.319 I don't even want to live my life like that. So, 0:51:52.760 --> 0:51:55.040 you know, like you said, like when we get to 0:51:55.040 --> 0:51:57.040 the point where we could just start loving on ourselves 0:51:57.040 --> 0:51:59.520 a little bit more, you know, you could love on 0:51:59.600 --> 0:52:01.480 your kids better, you could love on your family a 0:52:01.520 --> 0:52:04.200 little bit better. You could love what you do, you know, 0:52:04.760 --> 0:52:08.200 because we're all wired to love. And you know, on 0:52:08.200 --> 0:52:10.040 the other end of that, it's the hate, that's that's 0:52:10.080 --> 0:52:13.160 what you know, And people end up hating because they 0:52:13.160 --> 0:52:15.359 want to be loved, you know what I'm saying. So 0:52:15.400 --> 0:52:19.080 it's it's it's interesting, man, But I think that I'm 0:52:19.280 --> 0:52:25.000 very optimistic about the situation, to say the least, you know, 0:52:25.160 --> 0:52:28.120 because I feel like, if if you're close to me, 0:52:28.239 --> 0:52:29.880 I know I could have a little love for you 0:52:29.960 --> 0:52:32.960 at least, you know what I mean, And it just 0:52:33.080 --> 0:52:34.000 have to start there. 0:52:34.120 --> 0:52:34.319 You know. 0:52:34.360 --> 0:52:36.640 I hope I'm radiant, and I hope that people like 0:52:36.680 --> 0:52:39.320 when they see me, they see God in me. They like, damn, 0:52:40.080 --> 0:52:42.320 that's what's up, you know what I mean? And it's 0:52:42.840 --> 0:52:44.640 you know, a lot of us ain't got no guidance. 0:52:44.880 --> 0:52:47.400 But it take a village, you know. It takes people 0:52:47.440 --> 0:52:49.600 like yourself for me to get around people and be like, 0:52:49.640 --> 0:52:52.640 you know what, this is a good thing, you know, 0:52:52.960 --> 0:52:56.120 because I feel like it's such a it's such a 0:52:56.120 --> 0:53:00.560 block between young people in the older generation, you know. 0:53:00.719 --> 0:53:02.840 Like I was talking to you about my grandfather. 0:53:02.920 --> 0:53:04.399 Him and I used to get into it a lot 0:53:04.480 --> 0:53:07.480 because he used to always want to pay his bills 0:53:08.440 --> 0:53:10.560 in the envelope that it come in and fill out 0:53:10.640 --> 0:53:13.160 the paper, and I'm like, you know, it's the twentieth century, 0:53:13.200 --> 0:53:15.000 Like people don't you don't have to do it this way? 0:53:15.040 --> 0:53:16.520 No more, like why do you want to do it 0:53:16.600 --> 0:53:19.640 like this? He always used to be peeking over my shoulder. 0:53:19.800 --> 0:53:20.799 I'm like, you know, and I. 0:53:20.719 --> 0:53:22.480 Would get agitated by it because. 0:53:22.239 --> 0:53:24.120 I'm like, damn, I'm trying to do something else. You 0:53:24.120 --> 0:53:28.040 want me to come phill these bills out? But I 0:53:28.080 --> 0:53:33.799 didn't know until maybe six or seven years ago that 0:53:33.880 --> 0:53:36.240 the only thing that my grandfather knows how to write 0:53:36.480 --> 0:53:38.920 is his name, and he could write it in cursive, 0:53:38.960 --> 0:53:40.880 so he hell a proud of it. That's all he 0:53:40.920 --> 0:53:43.280 knew how to write. So he was always very impressed 0:53:43.280 --> 0:53:46.239 with my penmanship. And you know what I mean, the 0:53:46.280 --> 0:53:49.720 fruit of his labor. Look how it's turning out. Damn, 0:53:49.800 --> 0:53:52.600 look what we're doing. And it would agitate me because 0:53:52.600 --> 0:53:54.960 I'm like, you know, but it was the block and 0:53:55.000 --> 0:53:57.080 he has so much pride that he was afraid to 0:53:57.120 --> 0:53:58.600 tell me like, oh I can't write this. This is 0:53:58.600 --> 0:54:00.480 why I need you to do it, like you know. 0:54:00.640 --> 0:54:03.520 So I feel like we need to listen to each other, 0:54:03.600 --> 0:54:06.400 young generation, old generation, whatever it may be, you know, 0:54:06.480 --> 0:54:09.040 And like you said, like we've we've all had our 0:54:09.200 --> 0:54:13.200 our slip ups, you know, and been part of the 0:54:13.360 --> 0:54:17.200 bullshit in our communities. You know, so we got to 0:54:17.239 --> 0:54:19.640 step up and start doing something great, you know what 0:54:19.719 --> 0:54:22.560 I mean, and show people that you can change and 0:54:22.600 --> 0:54:26.160 that we can change this world if we change ourselves. 0:54:26.880 --> 0:54:30.520 Yeah, that was profound, It was you know. 0:54:30.920 --> 0:54:31.120 You know. 0:54:31.200 --> 0:54:33.600 The trip part about it is that a lot of 0:54:33.640 --> 0:54:37.200 the answers are in those characters that you've played. I'm 0:54:37.200 --> 0:54:40.759 telling you, man, thank you. You have done a remarkable 0:54:40.880 --> 0:54:43.920 job at at picking good characters. 0:54:43.960 --> 0:54:49.239 Thank you, Little boys. Reloaded podcasts will be right back after. 0:54:48.960 --> 0:55:04.680 The spots, going back to the easy movie movie Straight 0:55:04.680 --> 0:55:10.359 out of Compton and where you played uh easy when 0:55:10.640 --> 0:55:15.359 when they told you that, uh did you have did 0:55:15.440 --> 0:55:19.120 did you have to take any type of special uh 0:55:19.520 --> 0:55:23.719 courses or whatever to find out, you know, uh, how 0:55:23.800 --> 0:55:28.520 an age patient would respond to the treatment or to 0:55:28.600 --> 0:55:31.200 the news that they had gotten age. Did you have 0:55:31.280 --> 0:55:33.719 to go around any type of clinics or anything like that. 0:55:33.960 --> 0:55:38.080 No, No, I just thought of it like because I 0:55:38.160 --> 0:55:42.400 had an uncle that died from age, right, And I 0:55:42.400 --> 0:55:44.560 I got my own conspiracy thoughts on that too, because 0:55:44.560 --> 0:55:46.240 I ain't gonna lie. He was healthy as an ox, 0:55:46.520 --> 0:55:50.840 but he was a gay man, right, and when everybody 0:55:50.920 --> 0:55:53.520 was getting tested and people was finding out and all 0:55:53.560 --> 0:55:56.279 of this kind of stuff, like the whole family suggested 0:55:56.640 --> 0:55:58.839 that he go get tested because they knew he was gay. 0:55:59.400 --> 0:56:00.640 Lo and behold, he got AIDS. 0:56:00.680 --> 0:56:03.400 Four months later, he dies, but he paid like eighty 0:56:03.480 --> 0:56:07.400 thousand or something crazy number for the medicine. So you know, 0:56:07.560 --> 0:56:09.919 it was like to me, it was it came through 0:56:09.920 --> 0:56:11.920 and just swept a lot of people. But I personally 0:56:12.000 --> 0:56:14.800 feel like it came from the medicine, right, So aside 0:56:14.800 --> 0:56:18.040 from that, I'm looking at easy situation like he went 0:56:18.320 --> 0:56:22.680 to the hospital and never left, you know what I'm. 0:56:22.560 --> 0:56:27.200 Saying, Like he went in, they never leave. So the 0:56:27.320 --> 0:56:29.640 shock to him was more like, no, I'm you know, 0:56:29.680 --> 0:56:32.000 I ain't gay? What you mean I got aids? 0:56:32.160 --> 0:56:34.640 Like that's for gay people because that's what the media 0:56:34.719 --> 0:56:37.279 is saying. And then they're like, no, well your T 0:56:37.440 --> 0:56:43.120 sale account is thirteen sir. You know you got a 0:56:43.160 --> 0:56:45.440 few days. You about to get out of here that 0:56:45.520 --> 0:56:51.239 whole like, cause, I mean, we don't survived shoot out, 0:56:51.360 --> 0:56:53.680 so we didn't survive this and that it survived the 0:56:53.680 --> 0:56:55.799 police all of that, and I'm about to die from 0:56:55.840 --> 0:57:00.520 a sickness? Are you kidding me? Like I know his 0:57:00.600 --> 0:57:03.799 heart was broke, you know what I mean? Because he never, ever, 0:57:04.120 --> 0:57:07.680 I don't think, wanted He wanted the best for Qube. 0:57:07.719 --> 0:57:09.440 He wanted the best for Dre, wanted the best for 0:57:09.560 --> 0:57:12.840 Yellow Wren, even Jerry Helen. He wanted the best for 0:57:12.960 --> 0:57:15.640 people like he had a good heart about himself. He 0:57:15.680 --> 0:57:18.240 gave each of his kids twenty thousand dollars a month. 0:57:19.280 --> 0:57:21.240 You know, he was taking care of what he had 0:57:21.280 --> 0:57:22.000 to take care of. 0:57:22.720 --> 0:57:25.400 He gave each one of his kids twenty RECs a month. 0:57:25.640 --> 0:57:26.240 Twenty bands. 0:57:26.600 --> 0:57:29.280 Ain't your cue that money? C was asking about you 0:57:29.520 --> 0:57:30.400 want some money man? 0:57:30.520 --> 0:57:33.880 Well, you know, Cuban wrote a lot of that music. 0:57:33.960 --> 0:57:35.200 Man you wanted that money? 0:57:35.400 --> 0:57:35.800 Well, you know. 0:57:36.080 --> 0:57:41.520 But to be honest, I think Easy was also afraid 0:57:42.080 --> 0:57:45.440 to uh. I mean, he know that there was things 0:57:45.480 --> 0:57:48.440 that that Jerry could do that he couldn't. You know, 0:57:48.520 --> 0:57:50.439 Like when they went to go visit the White House, 0:57:50.560 --> 0:57:52.720 they made us take that out the movie. It was 0:57:52.760 --> 0:57:56.080 in the original script. They made us take that out 0:57:56.080 --> 0:57:58.920 the movie. And it wasn't even that's a simple shot 0:57:59.040 --> 0:58:02.520 to say, hey, you know, we just got off the 0:58:03.120 --> 0:58:06.040 airplane or whatever and we and they just simply turned 0:58:06.120 --> 0:58:07.880 us back around and say, now get your lass back 0:58:07.920 --> 0:58:09.960 on there. That's all they needed to put in the 0:58:09.960 --> 0:58:12.240 movie to let us know that it happened, you know. 0:58:12.760 --> 0:58:16.880 But they was like, no, check it out. I believe 0:58:16.960 --> 0:58:19.760 Universal wanted us to take it out. But f Gary Gray, 0:58:19.800 --> 0:58:21.400 he's so smart, you know that. Like at the end 0:58:21.400 --> 0:58:24.880 of the film, that's why Cube says to Easy, how 0:58:24.920 --> 0:58:27.400 you go from selling rocks in the Dope House to 0:58:27.520 --> 0:58:30.920 eating dinner with the president in the White House and 0:58:30.960 --> 0:58:34.840 he you know. Easy responds by saying, they still trying 0:58:34.840 --> 0:58:36.520 to figure that out because that was the truth. All 0:58:36.560 --> 0:58:38.960 they knew was Eric Lynn Wright donated X amount of 0:58:39.000 --> 0:58:41.480 dollars to the state of California. He should be a Republican. 0:58:41.800 --> 0:58:43.880 They didn't think he was going to show up and 0:58:43.920 --> 0:58:45.720 be the same nigga from the police. 0:58:45.760 --> 0:58:48.000 It was like, hell no, they turned him around, you 0:58:48.040 --> 0:58:50.200 know what I mean? But yeah, that's the truth. 0:58:50.240 --> 0:58:51.959 And they didn't want to see it, like they didn't 0:58:52.000 --> 0:58:54.840 want us to be that powerful, you know, like when 0:58:54.880 --> 0:58:57.200 you look at it, they knocked off him, Biggie and 0:58:57.960 --> 0:59:01.960 Pop in a very short amount of time. If you 0:59:02.000 --> 0:59:04.920 go from the first that to the last, it's like, 0:59:05.360 --> 0:59:07.040 I don't even think it's two four years. 0:59:08.720 --> 0:59:12.200 Who was in office when Easy went to the to 0:59:12.320 --> 0:59:13.320 the to the White House? 0:59:14.920 --> 0:59:18.120 Mm? Is it Reagan? I do who was it? 0:59:19.360 --> 0:59:21.520 See? I think that I think I don't even I 0:59:21.520 --> 0:59:23.840 don't even think Easy went to the White House. 0:59:24.600 --> 0:59:27.640 Uh, he was the presidential luncheon that they were supposed 0:59:27.640 --> 0:59:30.440 to be, So whatever it was, it might have been 0:59:30.480 --> 0:59:31.000 Big Bush. 0:59:32.760 --> 0:59:35.280 Whatever he went to uh was supposed to go to 0:59:36.640 --> 0:59:40.160 I think easy went there like justice to give him 0:59:40.160 --> 0:59:41.400 a big middle finger. 0:59:41.320 --> 0:59:44.400 Like absolutely, that's what it was always was. 0:59:47.280 --> 0:59:49.080 And yeah, he wasn't trying to go toga. 0:59:49.600 --> 0:59:53.439 Like I can just see that letter when he got 0:59:53.440 --> 0:59:59.400 the letter, you know what, and somebody probably was one 0:59:59.400 --> 1:00:02.000 of the secretary something probably has probably read the letter 1:00:02.040 --> 1:00:03.440 and say they want you to and he was like, 1:00:03.480 --> 1:00:04.960 what what you're gonna do? 1:00:05.760 --> 1:00:09.640 I'm going right, I'm head, I'm headed, you know, because 1:00:09.640 --> 1:00:13.240 they probably had no idea who Eric Lynn Wright was. 1:00:13.320 --> 1:00:15.720 They definitely didn't put that together and think it was easy. 1:00:16.240 --> 1:00:20.560 You know. You know, Eric, you were a very smart guy, right, 1:00:21.640 --> 1:00:24.800 but man, I think you overplayed your hand by not 1:00:24.880 --> 1:00:28.320 paying Cube and Drake. I mean, you overplayed your hand. 1:00:28.760 --> 1:00:33.480 He definitely, I think he definitely did that bad. He 1:00:33.520 --> 1:00:34.360 definitely did that bad. 1:00:35.880 --> 1:00:38.040 You got the guy, you got your most prolific writer 1:00:38.160 --> 1:00:40.120 in the group, and you got your beat maker. If 1:00:40.120 --> 1:00:43.640 you got your guy who's making the music, you gotta 1:00:43.720 --> 1:00:46.240 take care of those guys. You got to make them happy. 1:00:46.280 --> 1:00:48.720 They gotta be happy. Absolutely, it seemed like that they 1:00:48.720 --> 1:00:50.400 were asking for anything unreasonable. 1:00:50.720 --> 1:00:52.760 No, I mean I think at the end of the 1:00:52.840 --> 1:00:56.680 day he he was so stuck on what Jerry Heller 1:00:56.840 --> 1:00:59.840 was telling him and trusting in that situation so much 1:01:00.120 --> 1:01:04.880 that between everything that's going on in his life, he 1:01:04.960 --> 1:01:07.919 was just so blinded to it. I think he after 1:01:07.960 --> 1:01:10.080 a while just put on blinders and was like, Jerry 1:01:10.160 --> 1:01:12.360 got it. I don't want to talk to you all 1:01:12.360 --> 1:01:15.720 about the money because I mean, it is what it is. 1:01:16.200 --> 1:01:19.880 But you know, by that time, he was he was 1:01:19.880 --> 1:01:22.080 on a rapid downfall, you know what I mean. Like 1:01:22.200 --> 1:01:24.240 Jerry really got all of the asks, you know what 1:01:24.320 --> 1:01:27.400 I mean, like they easy was an exempt from the situation. 1:01:27.560 --> 1:01:30.680 Like he he definitely lost money too. And I think 1:01:30.760 --> 1:01:34.480 if he would have just paid more attention to the 1:01:34.560 --> 1:01:39.760 situation in its entirety, you know, because he really didn't 1:01:39.800 --> 1:01:42.560 believe that they couldn't do it without Jerry, and Dre 1:01:42.720 --> 1:01:44.920 was preaching that to him the whole time, you know. 1:01:45.000 --> 1:01:47.360 But I mean we see where Dre at now billionaih, 1:01:48.200 --> 1:01:50.520 you know what I mean, We see where a cube 1:01:50.560 --> 1:01:52.920 at now like leading it, you. 1:01:52.880 --> 1:01:53.439 Know what I mean. 1:01:53.600 --> 1:01:58.120 So it's I don't know, man, you know, it's it 1:01:58.200 --> 1:02:00.440 was sad to watch. It was sad to watch, but 1:02:00.560 --> 1:02:03.160 you know, I am glad that I got to humanize 1:02:03.200 --> 1:02:08.200 him in a way that didn't tarnish the legacy or brother. 1:02:08.280 --> 1:02:12.120 You killed that role. If you was made for that role, 1:02:12.280 --> 1:02:15.400 I think you killed it. I mean, not talking about 1:02:15.720 --> 1:02:19.040 it out the park. You said a distant record with 1:02:19.120 --> 1:02:24.320 that ship. Hey man, I'm glad I was not there 1:02:24.360 --> 1:02:31.480 trying to audition. Stopped playing, man, stop playing. They would 1:02:31.520 --> 1:02:36.640 have called me back. I'm like Jason Road, I mean, 1:02:36.680 --> 1:02:39.959 you knocked that thing out. The part is that any 1:02:40.120 --> 1:02:43.000 role that they could ask of you that you would 1:02:43.080 --> 1:02:46.040 not play, you absolutely would just say no, I'm not 1:02:46.080 --> 1:02:47.200 playing that type of character. 1:02:51.720 --> 1:02:54.560 I'm not homophobic at all, don't have no homophobic bones 1:02:54.600 --> 1:02:58.240 in my body, but I just I don't. I don't 1:02:58.240 --> 1:03:02.440 want to play any of these rolls, you know that, 1:03:02.680 --> 1:03:04.320 you know. I mean I feel like they got they 1:03:04.360 --> 1:03:07.120 got gay people out here that act, they got transgenders 1:03:07.120 --> 1:03:10.360 out here that act, and they could portray those stories 1:03:10.480 --> 1:03:13.040 very well, you know, and they fit in that box 1:03:13.400 --> 1:03:16.240 very well. So you know, I could sort of leave 1:03:16.280 --> 1:03:22.080 that for them. That and maybe like I'm not too 1:03:22.120 --> 1:03:24.960 big on the woman nos this either, I don't really 1:03:24.960 --> 1:03:26.919 want to play that, you know, maybe a hot boy, 1:03:27.000 --> 1:03:29.040 but like as far as like on some Ike Turner 1:03:29.120 --> 1:03:31.960 type shit like nah, you know what I mean, Like 1:03:32.000 --> 1:03:34.400 they still got people who be looking at Blair Underwood 1:03:34.440 --> 1:03:36.120 like I don't like his ass, but he you know, 1:03:36.680 --> 1:03:39.280 he probably don't beat his wife at home, but people 1:03:39.400 --> 1:03:41.720 just look at it like, you know what I mean, 1:03:42.600 --> 1:03:45.120 Lawrence Fishburn had to shake that, you know what I'm saying, 1:03:45.120 --> 1:03:47.000 because for a long time people just looking at him 1:03:47.040 --> 1:03:49.280 like I don't like his motherfucking ass, you know. So 1:03:49.960 --> 1:03:51.640 it's just like when you see Hannibal. Like when I 1:03:51.720 --> 1:03:54.120 first met Anthony Hopkins in real life, he was That 1:03:54.200 --> 1:03:56.200 was the first time I ever froze when I was 1:03:56.240 --> 1:04:00.320 like meeting a star because I'm I always I'll give 1:04:00.400 --> 1:04:03.160 myself enough to like, you know, you got some people 1:04:03.200 --> 1:04:04.600 you meet them and you're like, damn, I just been 1:04:04.600 --> 1:04:06.480 a huge fan my whole life or whatever. But as 1:04:06.480 --> 1:04:09.520 far as like being struck or you do some stupid 1:04:09.560 --> 1:04:11.720 shit like that only happened to me when I met 1:04:12.120 --> 1:04:14.800 him and the dude who played Candy Man, and they 1:04:14.800 --> 1:04:16.400 don't even know about it because I ain't speak to him. 1:04:16.440 --> 1:04:18.000 I feel like the dude who playing Candy Man fucked 1:04:18.040 --> 1:04:19.960 up my whole childhood, Like he don't even know, like 1:04:21.040 --> 1:04:24.960 you know, but I seen him and stop, like you know, 1:04:25.000 --> 1:04:26.520 and I kind of let them go their own way 1:04:26.560 --> 1:04:30.520 because I'm like, damn, But you know, it's powerful being 1:04:30.560 --> 1:04:32.480 an actor, you know what I'm saying. You never know 1:04:32.520 --> 1:04:35.520 how you affecting people lives. So you know, they got 1:04:35.560 --> 1:04:37.520 a couple of things that I wouldn't like to do. 1:04:37.600 --> 1:04:41.000 But I personally feel like, you know, because I had 1:04:41.000 --> 1:04:43.400 a bud all of these tattoos before I started acting, 1:04:43.920 --> 1:04:45.640 So in my mind, I always thought I was gonna 1:04:45.640 --> 1:04:48.280 get pigeonholed, you know, or be type cast as the 1:04:48.320 --> 1:04:50.919 guy with the tattoos stuck number three and shit right. 1:04:51.760 --> 1:04:59.600 So I always would press this this issue that I 1:04:59.640 --> 1:05:02.640 needed to show different faces at Jason Mitchell every time. 1:05:02.680 --> 1:05:06.640 I need to do something completely different, Like they called 1:05:06.680 --> 1:05:09.560 me to be easy in every other movie that had 1:05:10.480 --> 1:05:13.520 a glimpse of easy e in it, Like, bro. 1:05:13.480 --> 1:05:15.360 No, you know what I mean, I'm not doing that 1:05:15.400 --> 1:05:16.520 no more. I play easy. 1:05:16.600 --> 1:05:18.400 That's fine, Like you're not gonna get me to be 1:05:19.200 --> 1:05:21.480 easy in nine more movies, Like we could do this 1:05:21.520 --> 1:05:25.800 as a series and you know, we can keep going 1:05:25.960 --> 1:05:27.600 and then what you know what I mean? People be 1:05:27.640 --> 1:05:29.600 like went straight out of Compton too, come out Nigga. 1:05:29.600 --> 1:05:31.440 Hopefully never I died in the first one, you know 1:05:31.520 --> 1:05:31.880 what I mean? 1:05:32.360 --> 1:05:35.560 Fuck yeah, you know. So, I just I never wanted to. 1:05:37.240 --> 1:05:38.920 Let that be the thing that held me back, you 1:05:39.000 --> 1:05:41.560 know what I mean, because I definitely don't look at 1:05:41.560 --> 1:05:43.160 none of my tattoos as a mistake. 1:05:43.280 --> 1:05:48.480 I don't feel like I would take it back. I 1:05:48.520 --> 1:05:49.240 feel like it's. 1:05:49.120 --> 1:05:51.600 Part of my individuality and who I am as a person, 1:05:51.920 --> 1:05:55.120 you know. So it's good to know that it ain't 1:05:55.160 --> 1:05:57.680 holding me back, But it's it's always kind of like 1:05:57.680 --> 1:05:59.880 in the back of my mind, like can you really 1:06:00.200 --> 1:06:01.600 that show me? 1:06:02.120 --> 1:06:02.320 You know? 1:06:03.040 --> 1:06:06.920 And I just I'm always in this battle with myself, 1:06:07.000 --> 1:06:09.560 Like I feel like it's just me against me. You know, 1:06:09.600 --> 1:06:11.200 if you stand in front of the goal, I'm gonna 1:06:11.280 --> 1:06:13.680 dunk on your ass. I'm definitely the little bron of 1:06:13.680 --> 1:06:16.040 this ship. I feel like they got actors out here 1:06:16.080 --> 1:06:18.600 that had opportunities to work with me and don't because 1:06:18.600 --> 1:06:20.880 they know I'm gonna go up on their ass, you 1:06:20.960 --> 1:06:23.080 know what I mean. It just is what it is like, 1:06:23.120 --> 1:06:25.440 and I love this craft. It is what it is, 1:06:25.480 --> 1:06:27.640 you know what I'm saying, But like it's it's just 1:06:27.720 --> 1:06:30.720 like you know, you see Lebron and Steph Curry got 1:06:30.720 --> 1:06:32.520 this love for each other, you know, but like on 1:06:32.560 --> 1:06:35.360 the court, ain't no love, you know what I'm saying, 1:06:35.440 --> 1:06:37.520 Like I'm not gonna disrespect you or do nothing like that. 1:06:37.600 --> 1:06:40.520 But I'm here to win. And that's how I feel 1:06:40.560 --> 1:06:42.480 when it comes to my craft, Like I'm here to win. 1:06:42.600 --> 1:06:45.080 You stand in front of the goal, prepare to get 1:06:45.120 --> 1:06:47.880 dunk though Vince Carter style, going with my arm and 1:06:47.920 --> 1:06:50.040 all of that in the rim, you know what I mean, 1:06:50.160 --> 1:06:51.919 I'm gonna highlight posted your ass. 1:06:51.960 --> 1:06:55.720 I believe I'm ready for it. With your relationship, like 1:06:55.760 --> 1:06:56.200 with lean. 1:06:56.160 --> 1:06:59.360 Await, mainly not cool, mainly not cool. 1:06:59.360 --> 1:07:04.600 We like when I first met Leani, I met her 1:07:04.720 --> 1:07:09.120 at a SAG event and they had a stepping repeat right, 1:07:10.000 --> 1:07:12.360 and she had on like this fly ass suit and 1:07:12.400 --> 1:07:14.600 I actually asked to take a picture with her because 1:07:14.640 --> 1:07:16.120 I just thought she was fly as hell. 1:07:16.280 --> 1:07:17.360 You know, I ain't know who she was. 1:07:17.920 --> 1:07:20.200 And she was like, you know, I'm a writer, you know, 1:07:20.240 --> 1:07:22.160 I've I've done a couple of things, but like, I 1:07:22.240 --> 1:07:23.640 really want to work. 1:07:23.480 --> 1:07:24.200 With you one day. 1:07:24.240 --> 1:07:25.880 And I was like, let's touch and agree on it 1:07:25.960 --> 1:07:27.960 right now, Like all my friends that tell you like 1:07:28.040 --> 1:07:30.000 I pray in a minute, like I'm all about it, 1:07:30.000 --> 1:07:32.520 you know. So we literally stopped on the on the 1:07:33.200 --> 1:07:36.160 on the step and repeat and prayed, you know, and 1:07:36.240 --> 1:07:42.440 uh then I ended up getting this offer come in 1:07:42.600 --> 1:07:45.400 saying hey, yeah for the shot, and I was just like, damn, 1:07:45.440 --> 1:07:48.680 we really spoke that shit into existence. So by us 1:07:48.720 --> 1:07:53.840 having that that introduction, and you know, by us adding 1:07:53.920 --> 1:07:57.160 God into the into the mix early on, I don't 1:07:57.160 --> 1:07:59.760 feel like nothing could really break that, you know what 1:07:59.800 --> 1:08:02.120 I mean. I mean it was like, you know, when 1:08:02.120 --> 1:08:04.600 the whole little situation happened and shit kind of came 1:08:04.680 --> 1:08:07.040 rolling down on me or whatever, I understood why she 1:08:07.080 --> 1:08:10.600 got out the way, because you got the whole brand 1:08:10.680 --> 1:08:12.400 to protect, you got the whole show to protect. 1:08:12.480 --> 1:08:14.880 You know what I'm saying. I just I took a 1:08:14.880 --> 1:08:16.200 bullet and it was what it was. 1:08:16.439 --> 1:08:18.960 Did she support you silently? I mean, well, let me 1:08:18.960 --> 1:08:21.000 put it like this. Did she support you privately? 1:08:21.840 --> 1:08:23.840 Absolutely? She did, absolutely. 1:08:24.240 --> 1:08:27.240 But you know, to be honest, I wasn't really trying 1:08:27.280 --> 1:08:29.000 to hear that shit at the time, like you know, 1:08:29.080 --> 1:08:31.479 cause I was I was like, why would you just 1:08:31.560 --> 1:08:33.439 flash out and be like I got to stand with 1:08:33.479 --> 1:08:35.160 the woman like you don't even know what the fuck 1:08:35.240 --> 1:08:37.559 happened yet, you know what I'm saying, she actually did that, 1:08:38.240 --> 1:08:40.840 I mean I think she did. I think at one 1:08:40.840 --> 1:08:43.400 point in time she called the Breakfast Club and was like, 1:08:43.439 --> 1:08:45.680 I never worked with Jason Mitchell again. But then she 1:08:45.800 --> 1:08:48.879 retracted those words when she found out that the situation 1:08:49.439 --> 1:08:51.599 wasn't what she thought it was. But I just think 1:08:51.640 --> 1:08:53.800 that's some bullshit, Like you know what I mean, Like 1:08:53.840 --> 1:08:56.800 as much as you know somebody, you know, I feel like. 1:08:58.800 --> 1:09:01.200 I feel like people who really know me, when when. 1:09:01.000 --> 1:09:04.439 They hear shit in the media, they'll be like, uh, 1:09:05.080 --> 1:09:07.639 that's not really him, you know what I mean. 1:09:07.720 --> 1:09:08.519 And I feel like. 1:09:10.280 --> 1:09:12.040 She was one of the people who could have spoke 1:09:12.120 --> 1:09:13.400 up and said something that could. 1:09:13.280 --> 1:09:16.240 Have changed the situation. But yeah, yeah, exactly. 1:09:16.360 --> 1:09:19.960 But I also realized that, you know, if she did 1:09:20.040 --> 1:09:22.959 stand behind me, and you know, I did do some bullshit, 1:09:23.000 --> 1:09:24.960 it could have been bad for both of us, you 1:09:25.000 --> 1:09:28.000 know what I mean. I understand that too, So you 1:09:28.040 --> 1:09:31.120 know that's I don't I don't. I don't judge nobody 1:09:31.560 --> 1:09:33.880 for their situation, you know what I mean. And you 1:09:33.960 --> 1:09:35.800 never know what people are gonna do under pressure. I mean, 1:09:35.880 --> 1:09:38.439 nigga snitch every day, you know what I'm saying, So 1:09:39.080 --> 1:09:40.719 I don't. I don't be judging people. 1:09:40.840 --> 1:09:41.479 I really don't. 1:09:41.600 --> 1:09:45.080 I tell you this, Bro, one of the quickest ways 1:09:45.960 --> 1:09:49.120 to find out who for you is to go through 1:09:49.160 --> 1:09:52.200 some heavy ship. Oh yeah, for sure, go through something. 1:09:52.320 --> 1:09:54.120 For sure, do something, and I'm gonna tell you know. 1:09:54.160 --> 1:09:58.760 Like when I when I had my situation with the thied, Bro, 1:10:01.080 --> 1:10:03.320 it was one of them situations that if you could 1:10:03.360 --> 1:10:05.400 talk to God and you'd be like, say, God, no, 1:10:05.560 --> 1:10:07.160 you ain't got to do all that to God. Like, nah, 1:10:07.160 --> 1:10:08.760 I'm gonna sit you down for a while. Bro, you 1:10:08.920 --> 1:10:10.880 kind of moving a little bit too fast. I would 1:10:10.880 --> 1:10:12.400 have been like, now you ain't really got too many 1:10:12.400 --> 1:10:17.760 I'm talking to you right now. I'm gonna sit you 1:10:17.800 --> 1:10:19.880 down for a minute. But I'm gonna tell you something, Bro. 1:10:21.479 --> 1:10:24.080 It was a blessing in disguise. It's not something I 1:10:24.080 --> 1:10:26.880 would have wished for, but it was a blessing in 1:10:26.960 --> 1:10:32.640 disguise because when I say them niggas was dropping like 1:10:32.760 --> 1:10:38.720 flies all around me. When I say they were scatting, 1:10:39.360 --> 1:10:44.120 and it tightened my circle. It's strengthen it. My circle 1:10:44.160 --> 1:10:48.439 became so strong only the real was around me, and 1:10:48.479 --> 1:10:52.320 it stood out clearly. Including when I say the real, 1:10:52.760 --> 1:10:55.400 I mean even the women in my circle. The women 1:10:55.479 --> 1:11:00.519 got tight, super tight. The women in my circle. Shit, 1:11:00.600 --> 1:11:02.639 I take I go to wat any day. I'll pick 1:11:02.680 --> 1:11:04.640 them over some some of these dudes out here in 1:11:04.800 --> 1:11:07.240 a day because they sold as I mean, they like 1:11:07.360 --> 1:11:10.400 all the way, like oh they crying, they't going crazy, egg, well, 1:11:10.439 --> 1:11:11.400 we gotta do something. 1:11:11.520 --> 1:11:15.320 They want a twin power activate like we gonna It 1:11:15.400 --> 1:11:18.360 was like that. They were like that, I respect us 1:11:18.360 --> 1:11:20.120 so much and you want. 1:11:19.960 --> 1:11:22.920 To you want to know. It's not something that you wish, 1:11:23.000 --> 1:11:25.759 but if you know, if you gotta go through something, 1:11:25.800 --> 1:11:28.719 if you're going through it, that's when you're gonna really 1:11:28.760 --> 1:11:29.200 really know. 1:11:29.280 --> 1:11:32.160 Bro, absolutely absolutely, like because you know, we were just 1:11:32.200 --> 1:11:33.479 talking about your quavers, like. 1:11:35.040 --> 1:11:39.120 Listen. He helped me really start. 1:11:38.880 --> 1:11:41.840 To look at myself for who I was, because I've 1:11:41.880 --> 1:11:42.600 always been me. 1:11:43.560 --> 1:11:45.840 You understand, I'm with myself every day. 1:11:45.880 --> 1:11:48.480 I'm not going home and saying nigga, you a superstar, 1:11:48.600 --> 1:11:50.799 nigga you this you that I'm just Jason. 1:11:52.240 --> 1:11:52.720 That's it. 1:11:53.040 --> 1:11:56.400 I'm just Jason, Bro, and I don't everybody know. I 1:11:56.720 --> 1:11:59.960 come with a very humble energy. I got a humble spirit, 1:12:00.439 --> 1:12:03.880 and just because I fucked around and did something great, 1:12:04.439 --> 1:12:07.080 I don't think that makes me no better than the 1:12:07.160 --> 1:12:11.559 next person, right, So it was hard for me to 1:12:11.680 --> 1:12:13.479 really start looking at it. He was like, Bro, when 1:12:13.520 --> 1:12:15.360 the last time you seen somebody on the street and 1:12:15.400 --> 1:12:19.920 they said, when you see showtime, tell them tell them 1:12:19.960 --> 1:12:22.920 we love we appreciate them for putting you on that show. 1:12:23.320 --> 1:12:26.240 Anybody ever stopped you and said, hey, man, tell you 1:12:26.280 --> 1:12:30.559 universal that we appreciate them for letting you play easy 1:12:30.920 --> 1:12:31.280 And You're like. 1:12:31.320 --> 1:12:37.040 Nah, nigga, they love you. Invest in yourself. You ain't 1:12:37.040 --> 1:12:38.880 doing shit but making somebody else rich. 1:12:39.080 --> 1:12:41.639 Even if you is getting a little a little bag, 1:12:42.080 --> 1:12:44.120 it could be a whole different type of bag. If 1:12:44.160 --> 1:12:47.040 you say, fuck it, I'm a bet on me, you 1:12:47.080 --> 1:12:48.920 know what I mean. But when I did that, a 1:12:48.920 --> 1:12:52.479 lot of people because the handouts stopped, because a lot 1:12:52.479 --> 1:12:54.200 of motherfuckers call me and give me a sad story. 1:12:54.240 --> 1:12:56.920 Say brother, look man, I'm going through and I'll shoot 1:12:56.920 --> 1:12:59.760 you something. You come stay at the crib. You know 1:13:00.040 --> 1:13:03.000 a lot of motherfuckers. They know they know I ain't lying, 1:13:03.080 --> 1:13:06.479 They know I done held so many people down. But 1:13:06.520 --> 1:13:08.599 as soon as I said, ah, I can't do that, 1:13:09.880 --> 1:13:12.560 or I was going through some shit. You know, motherfuckers, 1:13:12.600 --> 1:13:14.880 if the phone stopped ringing as much, you think you 1:13:14.920 --> 1:13:17.439 know what I'm saying, and I really I'm talking about 1:13:17.439 --> 1:13:22.320 my circle that went to a dot. Family members then 1:13:22.479 --> 1:13:24.880 dropped out it and everything, and it just is what 1:13:24.920 --> 1:13:27.800 it is, because I feel like, you know, if I 1:13:27.840 --> 1:13:29.880 ain't got nothing else, I got guard and God is 1:13:29.880 --> 1:13:32.759 gonna direct me to the right people at all times. 1:13:32.800 --> 1:13:35.320 And the people who really really love me gonna be 1:13:35.439 --> 1:13:38.400 one hundred percent down with that walk that I'm on. 1:13:39.120 --> 1:13:39.559 Period. 1:13:39.800 --> 1:13:41.600 And that's just it. That's the short and long of it. 1:13:41.680 --> 1:13:45.240 It ain't no miraculous, glamorous story. Now, either you gonna 1:13:45.280 --> 1:13:47.599 love me and you're gonna be here through the entire thing, 1:13:47.840 --> 1:13:50.040 or it's gonna be over, you know what I mean. 1:13:50.360 --> 1:13:53.639 Jamie Fox, you know, blessings to him, you know what 1:13:53.640 --> 1:13:55.880 I mean, because he was one of them people like 1:13:56.120 --> 1:13:57.120 I went through some shit. 1:13:58.000 --> 1:14:00.439 He was like, man, come to the house, let me 1:14:00.479 --> 1:14:02.560 talk to you. Shit you down and talk to you. 1:14:02.560 --> 1:14:04.439 You know, really shoot some shit. 1:14:04.800 --> 1:14:09.280 If you ever really need something, brother, I got you. 1:14:09.280 --> 1:14:12.040 You know, they got very few people in the world 1:14:12.040 --> 1:14:15.200 who liked that dog like when things was going great 1:14:15.439 --> 1:14:18.320 I'm talking about it wasn't a movie star in the 1:14:18.439 --> 1:14:20.559 business that didn't want to work with me, or that 1:14:20.680 --> 1:14:23.519 I couldn't call personally. I could literally call my agent 1:14:23.520 --> 1:14:25.000 and be like, I need such and such a number. 1:14:25.160 --> 1:14:26.920 They texting it to me in the next five minutes. 1:14:26.920 --> 1:14:30.360 And I remember I was in Vietnam. Russell Simmons called 1:14:30.400 --> 1:14:32.360 my phone. They was like, can you hold for Russell Simmons. 1:14:32.439 --> 1:14:34.800 I was like, I ain't never had nobody call my 1:14:34.840 --> 1:14:36.880 phone and put me on hold immediately, you know what 1:14:36.880 --> 1:14:38.400 I mean. But this was the type of shit that 1:14:38.439 --> 1:14:40.280 was happening. You think when I went through the bullshit, 1:14:40.320 --> 1:14:43.439 these people was calling my phone. Hell no, you know. 1:14:43.600 --> 1:14:45.880 But now I just feel different because I'm like, you 1:14:45.920 --> 1:14:48.720 know what, if nothing else, I know, I got a 1:14:48.760 --> 1:14:53.880 direct pipeline to the fans, and you know, I acting 1:14:53.920 --> 1:14:56.800 as my happy place. So if I could make movies 1:14:56.840 --> 1:14:59.040 to the day I die, That's what I'm gonna do. 1:14:59.080 --> 1:15:01.519 And if the fans continue to watch my ship, that's 1:15:01.520 --> 1:15:03.720 gonna be great. But I know for a fact, and 1:15:03.880 --> 1:15:06.479 nobody else got to give me another opportunity in the world. 1:15:06.760 --> 1:15:08.240 Don't get me wrong, I would love it. I would 1:15:08.240 --> 1:15:10.240 love to be in a Marvel movie. I would love 1:15:10.280 --> 1:15:13.439 to be a superhero. But if them opportunities never roll 1:15:13.520 --> 1:15:15.800 back around, my bag is still gonna look the same 1:15:15.840 --> 1:15:16.479 as theirs. 1:15:17.600 --> 1:15:20.599 I believe that, you know, I believe that. 1:15:20.600 --> 1:15:23.000 That's that's why I am. See my my bounce back, 1:15:23.120 --> 1:15:25.840 you know, boy, my bounce back is very similar, bro, 1:15:26.040 --> 1:15:29.560 Like I just got one of those type of mentalities 1:15:29.640 --> 1:15:32.479 like I don't make it no matter what. So even 1:15:32.520 --> 1:15:35.320 if I got to do it all by myself, all along, 1:15:35.760 --> 1:15:38.799 everybody dropped off, But it's beautiful to have some support, 1:15:39.280 --> 1:15:42.880 even if it's a small circle. In fact, I actually 1:15:42.880 --> 1:15:46.679 prefer my smaller circle anyway, because that's less. Less birthday 1:15:46.720 --> 1:15:52.280 parties I gotta go through gift you know, that's less 1:15:52.360 --> 1:15:55.240 less anniversaries. I got to a ten. You know, that's 1:15:55.320 --> 1:15:58.479 less people I gotta talk to taking up my time. 1:15:58.840 --> 1:16:01.080 You know, like, hey man, you know, like everything that 1:16:01.160 --> 1:16:04.160 I do, man, it's all quality. Like I'm dealing with 1:16:04.240 --> 1:16:10.000 quality people. Yeah, super tight circle, quality people, and I'm 1:16:10.080 --> 1:16:13.519 cool with that. So blessing in disguise, man, And you 1:16:13.560 --> 1:16:15.360 know how it go, Bro, What don't kill us make 1:16:15.439 --> 1:16:16.000 us stronger? 1:16:16.160 --> 1:16:19.080 Facts, Facts and a lot of times, like you said, well, 1:16:19.280 --> 1:16:24.439 be willing to hear that, you know, you be like, God. 1:16:23.000 --> 1:16:25.320 You got it. You're like, yeah, I got you. 1:16:25.360 --> 1:16:27.360 But you're gonna have to sit this one out, you know. 1:16:27.439 --> 1:16:29.439 And I feel like so blessed that I got to 1:16:29.479 --> 1:16:31.720 get close enough to the fire to really know that 1:16:31.760 --> 1:16:35.320 it was hot, but not really get burned, you know 1:16:35.360 --> 1:16:37.879 what I mean, Because I feel like a lot of times, 1:16:38.040 --> 1:16:44.040 you know, when you get to celebrity status, you got 1:16:44.040 --> 1:16:48.000 to make sure that you're not self inflicting wounds, you know, 1:16:48.360 --> 1:16:52.160 and for whatever God has you know, set for me 1:16:52.240 --> 1:16:55.320 to do, because it's far from over, you know what 1:16:55.320 --> 1:16:58.320 I mean. I'm still a very young guy, and I 1:16:58.360 --> 1:17:00.400 feel like, you know, it's a lot that's gonna be 1:17:00.479 --> 1:17:03.080 on my path. But one thing I can't do is 1:17:03.120 --> 1:17:06.439 put myself in the line of fire or self inflict pain. 1:17:07.200 --> 1:17:09.160 I just I can't do that. If I do that, 1:17:09.200 --> 1:17:12.160 I'm gonna lose off the rip. So he put that 1:17:12.200 --> 1:17:15.400 in front of my face, like, Okay, this is what happened. 1:17:15.439 --> 1:17:18.599 If you do some dumb shit and then the process 1:17:18.960 --> 1:17:21.920 of that, all of these people who claiming they're your 1:17:22.000 --> 1:17:26.599 friends and all of this shit. Look, we're gonna wipe 1:17:26.600 --> 1:17:29.120 all of that situation out and then make it even 1:17:29.160 --> 1:17:30.719 better for you to feel secure. 1:17:31.320 --> 1:17:33.439 You're gonna go home with all of their secrets. 1:17:34.240 --> 1:17:37.120 So nobody gotta feel no kind of way about nothing, 1:17:37.200 --> 1:17:39.000 because I'm telling you, every time I get in front 1:17:39.000 --> 1:17:41.360 of a fucking microphone, I guarantee you they got people 1:17:41.360 --> 1:17:44.840 who cringe like, oh God, this nigga, don't bring this up. 1:17:45.240 --> 1:17:46.960 And I hope he don't say this, and I hope 1:17:46.960 --> 1:17:50.080 he don't say that. But nah, I don't care. I 1:17:50.080 --> 1:17:52.200 don't care that you don't that you didn't stick up 1:17:52.200 --> 1:17:54.840 for me. I don't give a fuck about that. I'm 1:17:54.880 --> 1:17:57.759 just happy that you out the way and that that 1:17:57.760 --> 1:18:00.560 that's not gonna affect my life, and no negative ways, 1:18:00.800 --> 1:18:03.559 you know what I mean, Because we could potentially be 1:18:03.560 --> 1:18:07.200 in a situation where this could it really fucked me up, 1:18:08.040 --> 1:18:10.280 you know what I mean. Look at Young Thug. All 1:18:10.320 --> 1:18:13.360 these niggas never turned on the game. I would never snitch, 1:18:13.640 --> 1:18:17.840 and as soon as they get in there, it was him, 1:18:19.240 --> 1:18:21.840 DeAndre did it. You're on it, you know what I mean. 1:18:21.920 --> 1:18:24.240 They doing it to each other and it's crazy, you 1:18:24.320 --> 1:18:26.720 know what I mean. And I'm talking about instantly, So 1:18:26.760 --> 1:18:28.759 for me I just feel like I'm just so happy 1:18:28.800 --> 1:18:31.880 that like the people that's around me love me as 1:18:31.960 --> 1:18:34.200 much as I love them. You know, if anything would 1:18:34.200 --> 1:18:36.080 have happened to me, I feel safe with them being 1:18:36.080 --> 1:18:40.160 around my daughters, and you know, I can't ask for 1:18:40.280 --> 1:18:42.280 much more, you know, more life. 1:18:43.280 --> 1:18:45.880 Yeah, them boys over there and that young thug trial 1:18:46.000 --> 1:18:51.320 pointed like the Jackson five, I don't got no. 1:18:58.479 --> 1:18:59.639 Fucked up man. 1:18:59.840 --> 1:19:03.080 I'm so sad for that dude, bro, because to be honest, man, 1:19:03.200 --> 1:19:08.599 like you know, I mean, I can't speak on their business. 1:19:08.640 --> 1:19:10.720 I don't really know what really be going on, but 1:19:10.800 --> 1:19:14.120 I've always seen them be all about their business. That's 1:19:14.120 --> 1:19:17.040 what the whole world is englfed with rap music, you 1:19:17.080 --> 1:19:19.080 know what I'm saying. They either on tour or in 1:19:19.080 --> 1:19:21.240 the studio, they're trying to do some shit with theirself. 1:19:21.520 --> 1:19:24.200 So you know, it's it's just fucked up, man, to 1:19:24.280 --> 1:19:28.800 see these these reco cases and these conspiracy shits that 1:19:28.880 --> 1:19:31.880 be happening, and you know, just tearing down these things 1:19:31.880 --> 1:19:33.720 that get built. You know, when half of it don't 1:19:33.760 --> 1:19:35.720 even be like that. It'd be a bunch of handshakes 1:19:35.760 --> 1:19:38.040 and DAPs and shit. These niggas made up and you 1:19:38.080 --> 1:19:40.080 know what I mean. And then you got somebody fucking 1:19:40.120 --> 1:19:42.360 off in the background who ruined it for everybody, and 1:19:42.400 --> 1:19:45.960 it's just it's really sad to watch, man, it's really 1:19:45.960 --> 1:19:47.000 sad to watch. 1:19:46.880 --> 1:19:49.360 That there be a lesson boys and girls. You resemble 1:19:49.400 --> 1:19:56.120 who you assemble real top Absolutely, Jason Mitchell, you wanted 1:19:56.120 --> 1:20:00.120 the realists, bro. This has been a this is what 1:20:00.120 --> 1:20:04.160 what we would call on Halloween, a treat. 1:20:04.920 --> 1:20:07.280 I heard that it has been a treat. I heard that. 1:20:07.360 --> 1:20:08.120 I appreciate you. 1:20:08.160 --> 1:20:10.760 Coming on the podcast, And is there anything that you 1:20:10.800 --> 1:20:11.960 want to leave with the audience. 1:20:12.760 --> 1:20:17.200 First and foremost, everything is both June second, Apple TV. 1:20:17.520 --> 1:20:20.000 If you ain't got Apple TV, you might be able 1:20:20.000 --> 1:20:22.040 to watch it on Amazon Prime, but you do got 1:20:22.040 --> 1:20:24.479 to go check that out. Me and JaQuavis called me 1:20:24.479 --> 1:20:27.000 and we produce that part time. 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