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Speaker 1: Soon.

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Speaker 2: Welcome to the Ozone Podcast with Jaguars senior writer Sean Osher.

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Speaker 3: Welcome into this week's Ozone podcast, And I'm excited about

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Speaker 3: this guest. I'm sure any fans listening to this is.

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Speaker 3: In two years he has become one of the best

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Speaker 3: guys to deal with from my position and also a

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Speaker 3: true team leader who can speak to a lot of

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Speaker 3: issues on this team. Jaguars tight end Evan Ingram, thanks

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Speaker 3: for joining us.

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Speaker 1: No problem. I glad to be here.

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Speaker 3: As I was thinking about this, I've only covered you

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Speaker 3: a couple of years, but year seven.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, crazy, Yeah, it's wild to think about just so

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Speaker 1: much football has passed by, a lot of lessons learned,

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Speaker 1: a lot of great memories, and it just goes by

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Speaker 1: so fast. But it's cool, though, because it does seem

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Speaker 1: like a long time. But you know, getting here definitely

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Speaker 1: a breath of fresh air. Yeah, the last two years,

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Speaker 1: it feels like I'm just getting started.

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Speaker 3: But you're sort of right at that point, and some

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Speaker 3: guys at your age you past the point, but it

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Speaker 3: still feels like you're in that prime if you will,

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Speaker 3: old enough to know what's going on. Yeah, young enough

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Speaker 3: to still be able to take advantage of all you know,

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Speaker 3: right for sure.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, a lot of maturity has occurred, definitely the past

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Speaker 1: five years of my career. You know, the rookie year,

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Speaker 1: the second year was just a whirlwind, and then I

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Speaker 1: responded to that, learn more about the game, Learned how

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Speaker 1: to keep myself on the field, take care of my body,

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Speaker 1: you know, become a leader, you know, lead by example,

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Speaker 1: pool people, you know, pool people with me, poll teammates

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Speaker 1: with me, learn how to follow other leaders as well. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: just you know, kind of really funny seeing the big

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Speaker 1: picture and everything is you know, everything's connected on how

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Speaker 3: No, it's interesting you say that your first round pick

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Speaker 3: yet you use the phrase you here so often first

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Speaker 3: for young players to feel like they belong and they're

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Speaker 3: doing it, And yeah, probably most young players.

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Speaker 1: That's well, yeah, it's uh, it's you know, it's kind

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Speaker 1: of frustrating, uh to see you know, there's a lot

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Speaker 1: I'm a true I have a true testimony of that,

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Speaker 1: And you know, there are guys that, you know, they

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Speaker 3: How many guys have you seen, I'm sure as a

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Speaker 1: Yeah, a lot a lot of guys. And I think

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Speaker 2: What you want, especial physical maybe all that.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, Cam, sitting in here a few weeks ago, Cam

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Speaker 3: Robinson said, you know, his first three or four years,

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Speaker 3: he said, that's the time he looks back and feels

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Speaker 3: it's I'm sure you kind of went through the same thing,

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Speaker 3: and you know at some point you just got to

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Speaker 3: shut things out, like you said, do things your way.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, for sure. Yeah, that's that's like I said earlier.

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Speaker 1: You know, it's everybody has an opinion that everybody can

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Speaker 3: Now going through some team university last couple of weeks,

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Speaker 3: it struck me that in not talking to you after

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Speaker 3: the game. Everybody cares, but the losing, the struggling, it

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Speaker 3: And I'm probably not asking that in a great way,

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Speaker 3: you feel the responsibility to be a leader during these times?

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Speaker 1: For sure? You know, I definitely look at adversity, you know,

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Speaker 1: based off personal experienced in my career, you know, tied

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Speaker 1: in with the potential that's on this team. I always

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Speaker 1: see adversity as an opportunity and adversity as a lesson

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Speaker 1: the situation we're in now, we're eight and five, and

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Speaker 1: and you know, our backs are against the wall. It's

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Speaker 3: Is there also an element of Look, it's great to

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Speaker 3: Let's not just assume we're always going to be good.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, And you know that it always comes back to

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Speaker 1: Where are you in your preparation today? You know you're

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Speaker 1: everything that we've been going through, what a great opportunity

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Speaker 2: You're more ready to be a leader now than you've

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Speaker 1: Yeah, it's uh, yeah, for sure, it's it's just cool,

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Speaker 2: Know, it's a process.

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Speaker 1: It's a process to learn because there's a lot of

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Speaker 1: You know, my biggest fear is becoming, you know, being average,

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Speaker 3: People talk about that contract year you were in one

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Speaker 3: I guess maybe having your best year and continuing to

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Speaker 3: but you also got to prove.

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Speaker 1: That, right, Yeah. I mean, I'm just trying to get

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Speaker 1: And I'm still learning. I'm still discovering new ways to

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Speaker 2: J You're always thinking about that, aren't you.

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Speaker 1: Yes, that I just don't take it for granted. It's

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Speaker 1: I'm I'm terrified of the day I walk off the

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Speaker 1: left something on the table. So as far as you know,

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Speaker 1: signed the deal, Uh, that just that brought me so much,

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Speaker 2: That started worrying all the time.

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Speaker 1: Yeah. So I've just been really at peace within my

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Speaker 2: Gotcha life.

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Speaker 3: Thing we do is the ozone five five quick fine questions.

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Speaker 3: What's your last binge watch?

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Speaker 1: Song on the way in Maverick City, everything is yours.

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Speaker 3: I've been asking guys and having some fun with it.

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Speaker 3: a busy week, a tough week. Thank you for joining

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Speaker 1: No problem, I appreciate you.