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Speaker 3: Oh Joe Yeah.
Speaker 2: As I mentioned at the top, Behind a dominant run game,
Speaker 2: Lamar Jackson and Dereck Henry throttle the Houston, Texas vil
Speaker 2: score thirty one to two. They took over first place
Speaker 2: because of the Steelers lost earlier. Today they took over
Speaker 2: the first place in the AFC North. Lamar Jackson only
Speaker 2: had to throw the ball ten times. He completed ten
Speaker 2: of those for one hundred and sixty eight yards two touchdowns,
Speaker 2: while rushing for eighty seven yards on full carries, including
Speaker 2: a forty eight yard touchdown run. Derrick Henry one hundred
Speaker 2: and forty eight rush yards twenty seven carries and a touchdown.
Speaker 2: He had eighty six yards in the first carry and
Speaker 2: so he also set a single season total touchdown record
Speaker 2: as far as running backs and receivers everybody. He had
Speaker 2: sixteen total touchdowns and he broke the record that he
Speaker 2: shared with Ray Rice.
Speaker 3: Raveries look really really good today.
Speaker 2: They look dominant on both sides of the football, and
Speaker 2: that's what you want to see heading into the playoffs.
Speaker 3: As the season winds down, you want to start.
Speaker 2: Playing some of your best football, and the Baltimore Ravens
Speaker 2: are doing that well.
Speaker 5: This is this is what I have a question for
Speaker 5: you now. Now, based on what we saw from Lamar
Speaker 5: Jackson today, Derrick Henry showed it the load. Derrick Henry
Speaker 5: showed it the whole package. Based on why they won
Speaker 5: the game, So as far as the MVP race is concerned,
Speaker 5: when we talked, when we talked last last time, you
Speaker 5: said to you, Lamar Jackson, is the MVP somewhat running
Speaker 5: away with it?
Speaker 1: Especially after today's win.
Speaker 5: Is your thoughts, your thoughts on your MVP going to
Speaker 5: change once we see the Bill Josh Allen play tomorrow
Speaker 5: and he puts up another unbelievable Superman performance, Are we
Speaker 5: sticking with Labar the rest of the next two games?
Speaker 3: I think it's close.
Speaker 2: And the thing is is that the question is if
Speaker 2: they win tomorrow, they clinched. They clinched the second seed.
Speaker 2: So does Josh Allen play the final game of the season.
Speaker 2: Lamar is gonna play because right now they're they're they're they're.
Speaker 3: Uh and number one.
Speaker 2: Uh, they're in first place in the AFC North. Now,
Speaker 2: if Pittsburgh wins next week in Baltimore lose, Pittsburgh rejumps
Speaker 2: them and so now they're on the road for the
Speaker 2: first game instead of being at home.
Speaker 1: Okay, let me let me give you a small tidbit
Speaker 1: real quick.
Speaker 5: So uh this weekend, uh, matter of fact, Saturday, the
Speaker 5: Bengals played play the Broncos, right, correct, Yes, Okay, So
Speaker 5: after the Bengals beat the Broncos, the following week, the
Speaker 5: Bengals are playing the Steelers. Yes, and the Bengals have
Speaker 5: to win the next two games in order to get
Speaker 5: out of the hunt and be in the playoffs and
Speaker 5: have somewhat of a wild card crack.
Speaker 2: But they also got to hope the Broncos lose against
Speaker 2: Kansas City, in which Patrick Mahomes, Travis Kelson, a lot
Speaker 2: of their starters aren't gonna play because they sold up
Speaker 2: the number one seed. You're not gonna risk it. So
Speaker 2: now you got Kansas City that's not gonna play any
Speaker 2: of their starters next week. Chris Jones is out. He
Speaker 2: missed today, So now you're looking at Kansas City. Mahomes
Speaker 2: is not playing. He's gonna be in street clothes. Travis
Speaker 2: Kelsey will be in street clothes. A lot of their
Speaker 2: starters will be in street clothes. Now you got a place.
Speaker 2: You only got like eight offensive linemen. A lot of
Speaker 2: the offensive lineman gotta play.
Speaker 3: Oh Joe, you don't.
Speaker 1: They don't have no choice.
Speaker 3: They got no choice.
Speaker 2: But some of your skill position, you might call them,
Speaker 2: some of your practice squad guys. Give them an opportunity.
Speaker 2: To get a full, a real game check in a
Speaker 2: situation like that. But you're absolutely right, Bengals have to
Speaker 2: win their last two. Hope the Broncos lose their lose
Speaker 2: their last two, but they also got to hope Indy
Speaker 2: and Miami lose one. But if Indy and Miami look
Speaker 2: or went out, it doesn't matter what the Bengals do,
Speaker 2: it doesn't matter what the Broncos do. So they're behind
Speaker 2: the Bengals, there behind the Dolphins, there behind the Coats,
Speaker 2: and there behind the Broncos. So they need the Broncos
Speaker 2: to lose their last two and they lose, need Indy
Speaker 2: and Miami to lose at least one while they went out.
Speaker 1: Is can ash hear me me as Ash?
Speaker 6: Well?
Speaker 5: Who does indye the Indie last two games? And who
Speaker 5: are the Dolphins last two games? Please tell me somebody
Speaker 5: that's difficult. Are teams that are that that have winning records?
Speaker 2: I think I think they got Buffalo, I know, problem
Speaker 2: got good.
Speaker 3: Miami got no. But see here's the thing.
Speaker 2: Remember, as a matter of fact, they got they got
Speaker 2: the Jets tomorrow. The Buffalo got the Jets and the Patriots.
Speaker 2: Miami has the Browns and the Jets.
Speaker 1: Oh that's not fair. Hell no, man, and.
Speaker 2: Indi Indie got Tennessee. Indy has the Giants and the Jags.
Speaker 2: Where they play, they're at the Giants home versus the Jags.
Speaker 2: So you need a lot of things, uh to to
Speaker 2: really really go right for you guys in order to
Speaker 2: really make the playoffs. And that's an ojo. This is
Speaker 2: what we always say. I hated that because I've been
Speaker 2: in that situation with the Bengals are because we didn't
Speaker 2: take care of our business early in the season. Now
Speaker 2: I gotta hope and pray. Man, I'm praying somebody else lose.
Speaker 2: I'm praying this happen. No, all you had to do
Speaker 2: was take care of what you're supposed to and then
Speaker 2: you get to sit back and hope somebody else has
Speaker 2: to do do that dirty work. I don't have to
Speaker 2: worry about that. But I think Kansas City likes where
Speaker 2: they are. They're like, look, we did what we needed
Speaker 2: to do. We went on the road and they dominated
Speaker 2: the Steelers on both sides of the football. We're good.
Speaker 2: We gotta buy nothing nobody else do. Now we get
Speaker 2: an opportunity to rest up. And if you look at
Speaker 2: old cho the last couple of games, they look really good.
Speaker 2: This was Patrick Mahomes's best game, breach clean game easily.
Speaker 3: He threw the ball really well.
Speaker 2: They did a great job of throwing the football because
Speaker 2: look against the Steelers. Steelers is like, you gotta be
Speaker 2: you gotta be uh convicted to run the football. You
Speaker 2: don't run the football on the Steelers on accident. You
Speaker 2: have to be committed the world. I want to be committed.
Speaker 2: You got to be committed no matter who you're if
Speaker 2: you want to run the oh Joe, it's a commitment.
Speaker 3: You look at the Ravens.
Speaker 2: That's why the Ravens for the most part they one
Speaker 2: or two in the league in rushing. Why because they
Speaker 2: make a commitment to run the football. When you play
Speaker 2: with Steelers, you got the double back. You have to
Speaker 2: make a double commitment. Look, guys, we know some of
Speaker 2: these players are gonna be negative. We know some of
Speaker 2: these players gonna go for no yarded. But we gotta
Speaker 2: stick with it. And that's what the Ravens do for
Speaker 2: the most part. But if you look at when they
Speaker 2: when they struggle, they get away from the run game.
Speaker 2: Lamar Jackson threw the ball fifteen times tonight he completed teen.
Speaker 2: They ran the ball almost tripled at forty three rush attempts.
Speaker 2: You saw, now, Derick Henry, he loves running the football
Speaker 2: against the Houston Texas.
Speaker 3: Yeah, he loves it.
Speaker 2: He's had in the in one season he had a
Speaker 2: game where he rushed for two eleven and then following
Speaker 2: it up on the road with a two fifty.
Speaker 3: I think he has seven games.
Speaker 2: I think he has like, what like seven games where
Speaker 2: he's at over fifteen hundred yards rushing against the Houston Texas.
Speaker 2: So no, I don't think we should be some prize
Speaker 2: that he had the type of game against the Houston Texas.
Speaker 2: But when the Baltimore Ravens show a commitment to run
Speaker 2: the football, they're very difficult to be and we see
Speaker 2: how dynamic they is. And see what happened was they
Speaker 2: got up to this great running start, and you saw
Speaker 2: what the Texans tried to do. They started pinching, they
Speaker 2: started knifing, and Todd Monkey said, okay, Will Anderson, you
Speaker 2: you want a knife, Hey, we're gonna fake it. Lamar,
Speaker 2: you keep it, and we're gonna pull a round. And
Speaker 2: now you get his head on the goal pulls for
Speaker 2: forty eight yards away. Yeah, I'm gonna make you play
Speaker 2: us honest. Now, Now if you want to do you
Speaker 2: want to go against what you're supposed to do and
Speaker 2: knife down in there to trap Derrick Henry in the backfield. Okay, hey, Lamar,
Speaker 2: we're gonna run the same formation. We're gonna give him
Speaker 2: the same as I Because the last time they brought
Speaker 2: Zay Flowers, he disregarded Zay. I ain't worried about you say,
Speaker 2: you ain't gonna do nothing. So this time they brought
Speaker 2: a tight end, he disregarded it. Now you got an
Speaker 2: extra blocker up on somebody, you get a kick out,
Speaker 2: you get a pin down, and now it's safety.
Speaker 5: At that point. All about the numbers game. It's a
Speaker 5: number game at that point. Yeah, listen with with with
Speaker 5: the Ravens playing the way they're playing with us common
Speaker 5: sense and you've been preaching it all season a long.
Speaker 5: Anytime they run the ball a certain number of times,
Speaker 5: using Derrick Henry and not allowing Lamar Jackson to be
Speaker 5: back there and be past happy, and allowing the past
Speaker 5: players to actually come to them, and not forcing the issue.
Speaker 1: Let Derrick Henry take care of everything.
Speaker 5: Obviously, the way they play the game is an old
Speaker 5: school style. It's the old schools down and the fact
Speaker 5: that it works in today's era a pass happy league
Speaker 5: where everybody throws the ball one hundred times a game.
Speaker 5: But what works for the Ravens and why they win
Speaker 5: games is doing what you've always said, what you've always said,
Speaker 5: week in and week out. I think, listen, I'm listen.
Speaker 5: I'm a bango at heart. I think they have a
Speaker 5: very good chance. And this being the year that Lamar
Speaker 5: Jackson wins the Super Bowl, and it would have to
Speaker 5: come on the onus and the shoulders of Derrick Henry
Speaker 5: and them sticking like you said and committing to running
Speaker 5: the ball no matter who they playing against.
Speaker 3: And that's what you have to do, O Joe.
Speaker 2: I think the thing is is that and people like, well,
Speaker 2: what do you mean by knife is when they take
Speaker 2: the defensive end and they try to cross the guy's
Speaker 2: face because you see the two negative runs he had.
Speaker 2: What happened the guy knife and they made him bounce it.
Speaker 2: So that's what I want him to do. I don't
Speaker 2: want to show the pass square to the line of scrimmage.
Speaker 2: I want him going parallel to the line of scrimmage
Speaker 2: because now he can't get a head of steam and
Speaker 2: he can't hurt me. If you look at when he
Speaker 2: got his yardage, he's going downhill.
Speaker 3: I don't want him going down here. I want him
Speaker 3: going latterly.
Speaker 2: That way I can push him to the boundary if
Speaker 2: I let him get downhill. Hell, he gonna fall. He
Speaker 2: gonna fall for two yards. Now you let him get Now,
Speaker 2: you let him get get a couple of steps. Now
Speaker 2: he's gonna get four, he's gonna get six yards. But
Speaker 2: Todd Munkey did a great thing to counter that. He
Speaker 2: saw what they started to do to try to force
Speaker 2: the bounce. He said, you know what we're gonna do.
Speaker 2: We're gonna get the same thing. But what we're gonna
Speaker 2: do is that we're gonna bring a tight end. And
Speaker 2: so now we get a kickout, we get a pin down.
Speaker 2: Now safety and safety is coming from death. So he
Speaker 2: really doesn't know what to do. And before he knew it,
Speaker 2: Lamar was up on him and he took a horrible angle.
Speaker 3: So now Lamar's looking at it, like, bro, what you
Speaker 3: rush still running for? Yeah? Now you go ahead and
Speaker 3: turn around. Yeah.
Speaker 1: The fun the fun The funny thing about it is.
Speaker 5: We already know Lamar Jackson is fast, but you never
Speaker 5: understand it as a defender until you sit there and
Speaker 5: you take a bad angle, you try to tackle him,
Speaker 5: it's over and you're fucking whiff, Yes, and you whiff,
Speaker 5: and before you know it, he thirty forty some yards
Speaker 5: down the goddamn field.
Speaker 3: And the thing is, o joe.
Speaker 2: And when you don't make him check his feet, when
Speaker 2: you just let him get ahead of steam, and he
Speaker 2: gets to go downhill because you are by the time
Speaker 2: he braced the line of scrimmage, he's like three or
Speaker 2: four yards.
Speaker 3: He's full speed.
Speaker 2: He full speed and three or four steps Lamar Jackson
Speaker 2: is full speed because you haven't made him check his feet, right.
Speaker 1: You got to. If you can't make him come to balance.
Speaker 5: And if you can't make him make some move to
Speaker 5: make you miss, or you're ask in trouble.
Speaker 1: Hell, if you can't make Derrick Henry.
Speaker 3: Shuffle his feet, you can't make him check his feet.
Speaker 5: Man, who want to make Who want to make that tackle?
Speaker 5: Who you talking about making a business decision? I'm driving
Speaker 5: straight at his pinky toe exactly.
Speaker 6: Who?
Speaker 3: Yeah, Ojo. We went and looked it up.
Speaker 2: Eddra and James had the most rushing yards for a
Speaker 2: quarterback in his MVP season.
Speaker 3: He had fifteen hundred and forty eight yards.
Speaker 2: Peyton Manning was the MVP in two thousand and two
Speaker 2: thousand and four Peyton. That was the year that Peyton
Speaker 2: broke Dawn Marinos record of forty he through forty nine.
Speaker 2: Marino had the record of forty eight touchdowns in the season.
Speaker 2: Manning through forty nine that season. That's also the season
Speaker 2: he had three receivers catch four thousand yards. He had
Speaker 2: Marvin Harrison go over thousand, he had Reggie Wayne go
Speaker 2: over thousand, and he had Random Stokely.
Speaker 3: Go over one thousand.
Speaker 2: Daren Henry in almost at eighteen hundred and So look
Speaker 2: for me, I still think for me Lamar and I
Speaker 2: get what I get.
Speaker 3: What the voters are gonna say, the voter's gonna say.
Speaker 2: With Shannon bro he got a nineteen eighteen, nineteen hundred
Speaker 2: yard Russer in it backfield, but he.
Speaker 1: Didn't have last time.
Speaker 5: I'm like, huh, he didn't have a He didn't have
Speaker 5: a nineteen hundred yard Russia when he went a MVP
Speaker 5: last time.
Speaker 1: So they can't use that excuse, don't move the gold post.
Speaker 2: But I'm saying, but see last time, oh Joe, he
Speaker 2: threw twenty five touchdowns.
Speaker 3: He's at thirty nine.
Speaker 2: With another game to play, So there's a great chance
Speaker 2: Lamar Jackson is gonna have forty forty one, maybe even
Speaker 2: forty two touchdowns with less than five interception. Remember, he
Speaker 2: threw five interceptions he was twenty five and five. Now
Speaker 2: he's like, he's got forty three touchdowns with with four
Speaker 2: interceptions and maybe I think he got two or three foumbers.
Speaker 2: So let's just say he's forty three total touchdowns with
Speaker 2: seven or fewer turnovers.
Speaker 3: Go ahead.
Speaker 1: Matter of fact, I'm glad you just said that about
Speaker 1: the turn of a ratio. I know. And we talked
Speaker 1: about Aaron Rodgers a lot, right, Yes, we talked about.
Speaker 5: And you wonder why he gets the opportunities he gets,
Speaker 5: why he's has the arrogance or the way he carries
Speaker 5: himself on they put up a grass. I saw it
Speaker 5: on Twitter on his numbers and his run when he
Speaker 5: was in Green Bay.
Speaker 3: Oh yeah, you see that.
Speaker 5: Oh my god, I ain't I ain't know he was
Speaker 5: like that, Yes, I ain't know. It was like that
Speaker 5: twenty five and three, thirty six and thirty six and.
Speaker 3: Five yeah, forty yeah, forty five and.
Speaker 1: Six Yeah what touchdown and a touchdown interception ratio?
Speaker 3: Yes?
Speaker 1: What stupid? Just like some video some video game shit.
Speaker 1: So it gave me a better understanding, gave me better
Speaker 1: context on why he is the way he is. But
Speaker 1: you're just not that same player. He's not that, not
Speaker 1: that nomber one. But god, hey, listen, I knew he
Speaker 1: was good. I understood his resume.
Speaker 5: I didn't understand it until I seen the goddamn numbers
Speaker 5: up there on goddamn Twitch.
Speaker 2: So now today, after today's game deck, Henry has seventeen
Speaker 2: hundred and thirty eight rushing yards. Lamar Jackson is a
Speaker 2: tick below four thousand. I think he has like thirty
Speaker 2: nine fifty five thirty nine sixty five something like that
Speaker 2: passing yards. But he has thirty nine passing touchdowns with
Speaker 2: four interceptions, and he has eight hundred and fifty something
Speaker 2: yards rushing with another four touchdowns. So it's hard, if
Speaker 2: it's really really hard. I think this year Ocho, had
Speaker 2: Mahomes had better numbers, it wouldn't even be a debate
Speaker 2: because fifteen to one if Lamar Jackson had like thirty touchdowns,
Speaker 2: would say like eight interceptions. Lamar Jackson, I mean, excuse me,
Speaker 2: Mahomes would be the MVP, because think about it, they're
Speaker 2: the only team other than the Giants. They're like three
Speaker 2: four teams that haven't scored at least thirty points in
Speaker 2: one game. The best of the other teams they won
Speaker 2: three games. The Chiefs have yet to score thirty in
Speaker 2: the game. They're fifteen to one. And it's all because
Speaker 2: now those other the Raiders is one, they're looking for
Speaker 2: a quarterback, the Patriots is won. They got a rookie quarterback,
Speaker 2: and I forget who the other team is. So that
Speaker 2: just goes to sh show you just how special you
Speaker 2: got to be. Nobody else in that offense on that team,
Speaker 2: no other quarterback in the league, no Josh Allen, not
Speaker 2: Lamar Jackson, and that's not Joe Burrow would be fifteen
Speaker 2: to one with that offensive line like that. Yeah, oh
Speaker 2: if bad and it just and today he put on
Speaker 2: an exhibition. He lets you know they like God, y'all
Speaker 2: really know, I'm still hire. I might not be having
Speaker 2: the best season, but don't y'all forget who I am.
Speaker 5: Yeah, listen, it all comes down to his decision make
Speaker 5: it out, even when, even when when most quarterbacks would
Speaker 5: be in the situations he's had with the officer line,
Speaker 5: the inconsistency of the officer line, him getting battered, getting hit.
Speaker 1: You know, at some point you get happy feet, you.
Speaker 5: Start doing things with the ball, your decision making it
Speaker 5: becomes errant because of the him you continue to take.
Speaker 1: But they've always stuck the course.
Speaker 5: And then the creativity and the combination of having a
Speaker 5: quarterback like Patrick Mahomes and the creativity of Andy Reid
Speaker 5: as well.
Speaker 1: Yes, I think the combination works so well together, similar.
Speaker 5: To that Brady Brady and goddamn Belichick, you know, in
Speaker 5: a different sense, though in a different sense because Belichick
Speaker 5: was a defensive mind, right, but just having Mahomes and
Speaker 5: Andy Reid together, it's almost unfair to have all the
Speaker 5: different wolves and the injuries that they've sustained and still
Speaker 5: be fifteen and one.
Speaker 2: Yeah, the thing is about Andy for the for the
Speaker 2: Mahmes the most part, he's only had Andy in his ear. Now,
Speaker 2: there have been times that he allowed somebody else to call,
Speaker 2: maybe eb to call plays, or maybe Naggative call plays,
Speaker 2: But Brady had Charlie Weiss in his ear. He had
Speaker 2: Bill O'Brien in his ear, he had.
Speaker 3: McDaniel in his ear.
Speaker 1: I was there with Bill.
Speaker 3: Yeah, so he's had three guys in his ear. Now.
Speaker 2: The only thing that's remained the same was the head coach.
Speaker 2: In the quarterback We've had different coordinators, but and the
Speaker 2: coordinators called plays. I think for the most part, what
Speaker 2: people got upset about is that they used not calling
Speaker 2: plays against EB.
Speaker 3: But it didn't hold that against Naggy.
Speaker 2: Now, Naggy did get a team, did get the Bears
Speaker 2: to the playoffs, and we've seen EB go somewhere where
Speaker 2: he called the place kind of fell a hard time
Speaker 2: than everybody was. Like see, I told you see and
Speaker 2: I said it at the time, I said, Eb, stay
Speaker 2: right there, Yeah, stay right where you are.
Speaker 1: M M.
Speaker 5: But you know, you know why he didn't, man, because
Speaker 5: you know, for us, you know, it's hard for us
Speaker 5: to climb that ladder. So when those opportunity to present itself,
Speaker 5: sometimes you got to walk out that dough.
Speaker 2: What you think the likelihood now, Eric Bana may ever
Speaker 2: getting ahead coaching job in the NFL.
Speaker 5: And you know what, and that's the problem that that
Speaker 5: that's the problem is that I'm not going to go there.
Speaker 5: You know where I want to go, but I'm not
Speaker 5: going to going to care because sometimes you could, you
Speaker 5: can step off the front porch, you know, and you
Speaker 5: can you could be abysmal. But that circle, that circle
Speaker 5: of coaches, you would get another opportunity.
Speaker 2: Again because they looking at it like, I'm not talking
Speaker 2: about him.
Speaker 1: Okay, okay, so what you said, yeah, yeah, see, stay
Speaker 1: stay with me.
Speaker 5: Now, I'm trying not to go there, but you know
Speaker 5: what I'm trying to say, but I'm not fin the sayd.
Speaker 3: My thing is, Ojo, I would have stayed right there.
Speaker 2: And hell, maybe somebody give me a head coach your
Speaker 2: job out of sympathy. I lied, o Joe, Maybe somebody
Speaker 2: give me a head coach your job out of sympathy, because,
Speaker 2: o Jo, when you go at the Commanders and they
Speaker 2: get the number two pick in the draft because their
Speaker 2: offense is so atrocious.
Speaker 3: And you go to U c.
Speaker 2: L A with a brother coach head coach and you
Speaker 2: get fired after one year because you're lasting. Oh Joe,
Speaker 2: that's not a good sign. Yeh it really, it really isn't.
Speaker 2: And so sometimes hey, I just weigh them out, just
Speaker 2: weigh them out right. Look, look for me, Lamar is
Speaker 2: the MVP. I mean, I just can't know. I just
Speaker 2: can't overlook his number. I just can't o yoe. And
Speaker 2: I know some people are like, what it'll be in
Speaker 2: resting to see what's the most losses for the MVP,
Speaker 2: and I get it. Oh sho five losses and Allen
Speaker 2: has what three losses? Mahomes doesn't have the stats to
Speaker 2: back up he's fifty to one. Jerry Golf has good numbers.
Speaker 2: He doesn't have great numbers, but they've only lost two games.
Speaker 2: Sa Kwan is playing really well. But unless he had
Speaker 2: two thousand yards right now?
Speaker 1: Right, yeah, I mean running back not getting that?
Speaker 3: Oh lord, that was in two ninety seven. God, but
Speaker 3: he was in Secon. Who that.
Speaker 2: Barry Barry in ninety seven? They were ninety seven, But
Speaker 2: that was the year he had twenty fifty three. And
Speaker 2: then Adrian Peterson the year he broke the record, he
Speaker 2: was five yards short of the six seven, eight yards
Speaker 2: short of the record, nine yards short because he had
Speaker 2: nineteen ninety nineteen. He had two thousand ninety seven, so
Speaker 2: he needs nine yards to get twenty one oh six.
Speaker 2: But he won the MVP. But then now in that
Speaker 2: situation is different. Oh, Joe, let me tell you why.
Speaker 2: You look at the quarterbacks that Barry had, and you
Speaker 2: look at the quarterback AP had, they're like, it should
Speaker 2: have been unanimous. Oh yeah, he had Christian Ponder and
Speaker 2: this quarterback. I don't know if y'all remember Christian Ponder,
Speaker 2: but he was real good and terrible.
Speaker 3: And Barry quarterback? What much better? Right? Wait?
Speaker 1: Who is Barry quarterback? Scott Mitchell? Was it Scott Mitchell?
Speaker 3: Okay?
Speaker 2: Oh, but so there is history here the most losses
Speaker 2: for a quarterback winning MVP. Brett Farr won the MVP
Speaker 2: with five losses. Matt Ryan won the MVP with five losses.
Speaker 2: Rich Gannon won the MVP with five losses. So if
Speaker 2: Lamar Jackson wins the MVP, it's not like, oh, he
Speaker 2: got five losses. No, We've seen three other guys at
Speaker 2: the quarterback position win MVP with five losses. So what
Speaker 2: I'm trying to do, O Joe, I'm trying to cover
Speaker 2: all the bases because you know, it's just gonna come up.
Speaker 2: If he I don't get it, they're gonna give you
Speaker 2: a reason why. So I'm just trying to prepare the people.
Speaker 2: If he doesn't get the MVP, I'm telling you why.
Speaker 2: Some of the reasons gonna start to come out. But
Speaker 2: your refute is, but they've given the MVP to other
Speaker 2: quarterbacks that didn't have this type of season, the MVP
Speaker 2: with five losses. Running backs are different because look, like
Speaker 2: I said, Adrian Peterson, how he got that team in
Speaker 2: the playoffs with that quarterback. How Barry did with it.
Speaker 2: But Barry was a co MVP with Brett because Brett
Speaker 2: won three consecutive ninety five, ninety six, ninety seven. There
Speaker 2: was a co MVP between Brett and Barry. But yeah,
Speaker 2: I like I said, for me, if I had a vote,
Speaker 2: I definitely with vote for Labar Jackson. I just can't
Speaker 2: over I just cannot overlook thirty nine touchdowns with four
Speaker 2: interception right now, their first place in the AFC North,
Speaker 2: the four rushing touchdowns with eight hundred and fifty two yards.
Speaker 2: I can't overlook that. I know, Deak Henry's in his backfield.
Speaker 2: I know, excuse me, dack Henry is lighting the load
Speaker 2: on Lamar, but he's still doing it.
Speaker 5: Yeah, you know, it's funny, and it's funny for me
Speaker 5: even I can separate the two.
Speaker 1: I can separate.
Speaker 5: Being a Bangal plan for a franchise where obviously the
Speaker 5: enemy is is the Ravens. But I can separate the
Speaker 5: two and understand the greatness that is Lamar Jackson. I
Speaker 5: can appreciate the quarterback playing what he's been able to
Speaker 5: do since watching him at the high school at Boydon
Speaker 5: High School, watching him at Louisville, and seeing how he's
Speaker 5: grown and matured into the quarterback he is a day
Speaker 5: when they've always said what he couldn't do. You know,
Speaker 5: we don't think he would be a quarterback in this NFL.
Speaker 5: We think he should try running back. Yeah, just just
Speaker 5: all the stuff he's had to overcome, all the obstacles
Speaker 5: and the hurdles, and to see where he's come now.
Speaker 5: I can honestly say this, and even as a Bengal,
Speaker 5: as much as I believe that goddamn Black and Orange,
Speaker 5: I really hope he win it the whole thing this year.
Speaker 5: I really listen, I really hope he wins the whole
Speaker 5: thing this year, not just the MVP, but god damn it, motherfucker,
Speaker 5: get you a chip just to get him off your back.
Speaker 5: So there's nothing else they can say on just so
Speaker 5: there's nothing else gonna say. And if you if you
Speaker 5: have any type of documentary, if you have any type
Speaker 5: of film that talks about the start to the finish,
Speaker 5: I wanted to all I want to lead up to it,
Speaker 5: how it starts to be all the negative things.
Speaker 1: Everybody said, that's all, Oh Joe people.
Speaker 2: I think the thing is when you try to when
Speaker 2: we try to explain things to people, people don't see.
Speaker 3: They'll take a clip.
Speaker 2: And because a lot of times people use clickbait because
Speaker 2: that they've got my face, they got our face up there,
Speaker 2: or night Camp saying something and they frame it in
Speaker 2: a negative light.
Speaker 3: They don't even listen to it.
Speaker 2: I've said, I don't believe Lamar Jackson's career is a
Speaker 2: failure if he doesn't win a championship. But they've been
Speaker 2: nine guys to win two MVP's, every last one has
Speaker 2: won a Super Bowl. Guys people say Aaron and Aaron.
Speaker 2: Aaron Rodgers has underachieved with forced MVPs in one Super Bowl.
Speaker 2: So what do you think they're gonna say about Lamar
Speaker 2: if he has three m vps and no Super Bowls
Speaker 2: on his resume when he retires.
Speaker 3: If Aaron Rodgers.
Speaker 2: If people believe Aaron Rodgers has underachieved with four MVPs
Speaker 2: in one Super Bowl, Oh cho, what will people say
Speaker 2: about Lamar if he has three MVPs and no Super
Speaker 2: Bowls win, his career is over?
Speaker 5: The disappointment, Yeah, it's gonna be worse. You understand that
Speaker 5: that people understand that those are that you have to
Speaker 5: be able to not be a fan, understand the politics.
Speaker 1: They understand what comes with the game when it comes to.
Speaker 5: The totality and the resume and the entirety of someone's
Speaker 5: body of work in the requirements to be to be
Speaker 5: talked about in the lead top group. Yes, you got
Speaker 5: to win. You got to win the trophy. You got
Speaker 5: to have one. You need something, at least one of them,
Speaker 5: especially when you're as great as you are in the
Speaker 5: regular season. Which is why, which is why I can
Speaker 5: sit here and say, I really hope, I really hope
Speaker 5: after winning MVP this year, I hope he goes to
Speaker 5: New Orleans and he's able to lift that goddamn Lombardy.
Speaker 1: I really do.
Speaker 2: And that's what it comes and that's what and that's
Speaker 2: what it comes down to, Ojo, It really does you know, Look,
Speaker 2: you gotta take black and white out of it. I
Speaker 2: know everything. We want to make a lot of things,
Speaker 2: we want to bouy racism, but we can't do it
Speaker 2: in this situation because we have nine guys that have
Speaker 2: won at least two MVP's, every last one has won
Speaker 2: an mb A Super Bowl. So now we're gonna say, well, well,
Speaker 2: if Lamar Jackson nowhere, what that's finding dandy? No.
Speaker 3: And the reason why I don't and many.
Speaker 2: Others don't hold Burrow and Josh Allen and all the
Speaker 2: other quarterbacks to Lamar because.
Speaker 3: They don't have MVPs.
Speaker 2: Once you get an MVP, your thought of your you
Speaker 2: look that different front Lee, Right, he gets looked at
Speaker 2: like now he gets Now he wins a super Bowl,
Speaker 2: he gets judged just like my homeboy. He gets judged
Speaker 2: just like Brady, just like man, just like all the
Speaker 2: other great quarterbacks that have multiple MVPs and a super Bowl.
Speaker 5: That's only right, hey, And you know you know that
Speaker 5: I think about it, Yes, I think about it from
Speaker 5: a different perspective.
Speaker 1: I'm looking at it through a different lens.
Speaker 5: I think about Lamar Jackson the quarterback, Samar Jackson, the
Speaker 5: quarterback that doesn't fit the mold. Yes that all the
Speaker 5: rest of them do. The Lamar Jackson that chose not
Speaker 5: to change, the Lamar Jackson that remained his true authentic
Speaker 5: self is especially based on where he's come from. You know,
Speaker 5: he's still He's still Lamar Jackson, the same Lamar Jackson
Speaker 5: for Pompado. Yes, nothing has changed, and he's still playing
Speaker 5: the quarterback position without having to conform, staying true to himself,
Speaker 5: to who he really is.
Speaker 2: That's what I love that, That's what makes him who
Speaker 2: he is. He's not a pocket passer. So why am
Speaker 2: I gonna try to be Tom Brady? Why am I
Speaker 2: gonna try to be Peyton Manning when I can be
Speaker 2: Lamar Jackson and win, just like they won and win
Speaker 2: MVP's and get to and win the Super Bowl. They could,
Speaker 2: They had to do it that way because they didn't
Speaker 2: have the athleticism to play outside of the pocket. Lamar
Speaker 2: Jackson has the athleticism to play outside of the pocket.
Speaker 2: He also has the ability to throw in between in
Speaker 2: between the tackles. But if I don't have to watch,
Speaker 2: should I? I don't have to prove well, I'm gonna
Speaker 2: win this game? And sometimes I felt that he wanted
Speaker 2: to prove that he could throw the ball from the
Speaker 2: pocket and win a game to say I told you so,
Speaker 2: win that Super Bowl and say all y'all thirty one
Speaker 2: that passed me, even the Ravens. But I give y'all
Speaker 2: the grapes. Because Ozzie got out, he was in the
Speaker 2: second round. He traded back up to get me, and
Speaker 2: I promised him a Super Bowl. I've delivered that, but
Speaker 2: I'm not done. So if you think I'm gonna be
Speaker 2: satisfied with one, you're saying the mistaken. I'm putting everybody
Speaker 2: on notice now. Hopefully they bring a d Henry back.
Speaker 2: I don't know what Jennifer on one year, one year,
Speaker 2: eight million.
Speaker 1: Man they got. They got to bring you back. I'm
Speaker 1: not saying.
Speaker 5: I'm not saying they got to, but I understand that
Speaker 5: they need and how the business works.
Speaker 1: I mean, listen, while it's hot, while the.
Speaker 5: Comb is hot, while the comba is hot, come on that,
Speaker 5: don't be no fool.
Speaker 2: And the thing is O Joe as many carries as
Speaker 2: he gets the ball, he's there every week.
Speaker 1: Now.
Speaker 2: I don't know what his practice schedule is like, I
Speaker 2: don't know if they give him on Monday. I mean
Speaker 2: Wednesday Thursday and just let him running back.
Speaker 1: The running back always get Wednesday off.
Speaker 2: All I know is more times than not he lines
Speaker 2: it up.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 3: All that other stuff I don't know about.
Speaker 2: I don't know a whole about the other stuff, but
Speaker 2: I know that man takes a lot of pounding. And
Speaker 2: every single week I see him dot and I so
Speaker 2: o Joe. It only took Lamar car four carries to
Speaker 2: become the all time leading rusher in the NFL history
Speaker 2: for the quarterback position. The record was sixty one oh nine,
Speaker 2: held by former colleague Michael Vick. Lamar passed Michael Vick
Speaker 2: despite playing forty one fewer games. So basically, he played
Speaker 2: two and a half seasons fewer than what Vickers played
Speaker 2: and he broke the record.
Speaker 1: Crazy.
Speaker 5: That's crazy, and you wouldn't People wouldn't understand how crazy
Speaker 5: it is and how that sounds when you understand what
Speaker 5: Vic was during his time.
Speaker 2: The thing though, Joe, it took Michael Vick thirteen seasons
Speaker 2: to get to that number.
Speaker 3: Lamar's done under seven, right and under seventh season.
Speaker 2: He's in his seventh season right now, right, Yeah, he's
Speaker 2: in seven because he's right, but he's a year behind
Speaker 2: my homeboy, because Mahome boys an eight, he's in seven,
Speaker 2: but he started halfway through his rookie season.
Speaker 3: Well, Mahomet one game, go ahead.
Speaker 1: I have a question too.
Speaker 5: I like I like the milestone that he's reaching such
Speaker 5: a short amount of time.
Speaker 1: Short amount of time as opposed to Vic.
Speaker 5: When you think about numbers like this, right and saying
Speaker 5: that Lamar was able to reach a milestone that took
Speaker 5: that took.
Speaker 1: A little bit longer. It took big a little bit
Speaker 1: longer to get to.
Speaker 3: You count the season which you get drafted because he
Speaker 3: gonna play that year.
Speaker 2: Mahome came in a year before, and then Mahomes run
Speaker 2: the m v P his rookie his second year, and
Speaker 2: then Lamarr was the MVP his second year.
Speaker 3: Goheen. What were you saying on Joe now?
Speaker 5: I was saying when when you look at the milestone
Speaker 5: that Lamar Jackson was able to reach such a such
Speaker 5: a short amount of time as opposed to Vic, who
Speaker 5: took a.
Speaker 1: Little longer to do it.
Speaker 5: The same thing when it comes to receivers, receivers playing
Speaker 5: in today's game and receivers that played before them in
Speaker 5: a different era.
Speaker 1: Do you ever take an account that the game is
Speaker 1: different now it is in to how you're not.
Speaker 5: Allowed to you know, the physicality has been taken out
Speaker 5: of it.
Speaker 1: So I don't want to call it easy.
Speaker 5: It's a little bit easier to put up the numbers
Speaker 5: that are doing today, or you don't take that into account.
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, well for the quarterback, is it really easy
Speaker 2: for the quarterback to scat scramble?
Speaker 3: Yeah? Look, I think that here it is, oh Joe.
Speaker 2: I think the thing is is that they do protect
Speaker 2: the quarterback a lot more than say, maybe even when
Speaker 2: back first got into the league. It's not like, look,
Speaker 2: they protect all the quarterbacks now, eighties, in the nineties
Speaker 2: when I came to the lead sixty to seventy on.
Speaker 1: Look here, they ain't care about none of y'all well
Speaker 1: being back.
Speaker 2: If they would hit a quarterback like some of the
Speaker 2: times I saw l Way get here my quarterback and
Speaker 2: see some of the other quarterback. Oh you get suspended
Speaker 2: three games. I'm telling them, Joe, were putting their helmet right.
Speaker 2: Oh man, they were putting their helmet right in the
Speaker 2: guys thurn him right right, drop it. I mean we
Speaker 2: wanted we got to the Super Bowl because Goose dropped
Speaker 2: his weight down on rich gallon shoulder. Come back and
Speaker 2: look at the FC Championship game. Separated this broken collar, bawl,
Speaker 2: separated shoulder something and.
Speaker 3: Put him out. You can't attack the quarterback like that.
Speaker 2: But but what what what al Jackie is doing at
Speaker 2: the quarterback position? Because not only can he run, we
Speaker 2: know he's the best runner in the game. Yeah, now
Speaker 2: he's a top five passer and I'm not so sure
Speaker 2: he's four or five. So when you look at that,
Speaker 2: when you combine he's the best runner at the quarterback
Speaker 2: position and he's a top five passer at the position.
Speaker 2: How do you stop it? You hope he has an
Speaker 2: off date. You hope you pressure him. You hope you
Speaker 2: can get a couple of turnovers here and there, and
Speaker 2: that's the that's the way you beat the Ravens.
Speaker 5: Try to try to get him off schedule, try to
Speaker 5: get him off script. That's the best thing you can do.
Speaker 5: But the problem is if you're pressuring him and he
Speaker 5: get out of the back door.
Speaker 2: Yeah you've been run past it now, then you ask down,
Speaker 2: Yeah you better not. Once you get even you see
Speaker 2: it back, then, oh Joe, he back here. Once you
Speaker 2: get here, you better let him off.
Speaker 1: Yeah, you run, stop and be under control. It sounded.
Speaker 5: It's one thing to talk about it, it's another thing
Speaker 5: to be out there and goddamn be able to do it.
Speaker 2: Absolutely, what we do have the factor in that Michael
Speaker 2: Vick went away. He did go to federal prison for
Speaker 2: twenty three months. I think he was out of the
Speaker 2: league for like two or three years.
Speaker 3: Uh, and so who the record would have?
Speaker 2: Look, I'm not saying Lamar wouldn't have this record eventually,
Speaker 2: but I do believe Michael Big would have had more
Speaker 2: rush yards than what he had because when he came back, Yeah,
Speaker 2: he was still but he wasn't a Michael Bick experience Big, Right,
Speaker 2: he wasn't at Lemma Big. Yeah, he was a better
Speaker 2: he they he was a better thrower of the football
Speaker 2: in Philly.
Speaker 3: But that guy on that turf in Atlanta, little difference.
Speaker 2: The Chiefs go to Pittsburgh and they win twenty nine
Speaker 2: to ten, sow up the number one seed in the
Speaker 2: AFC with a fifteen to one. They'll get the first
Speaker 2: round by have home field advantage throughout the playoffs as
Speaker 2: long as they win. The nineteen point margin of victory
Speaker 2: was the Chief's largest of the season. They had three
Speaker 2: hundred and eighty nine yards, more than half more than
Speaker 2: they had in the Albust. Oh Joe, check this out. Yeah,
Speaker 2: three eighty nine was the most yards they had in
Speaker 2: the season in all but one game, even with our
Speaker 2: Chris Jones. Russell Wilson would sack five times, intercept it once,
Speaker 2: and they forced this turnover by the Steelers. Andy Reid
Speaker 2: called it the most complete game of the season. You
Speaker 2: and I talked about that at the beginning. I say,
Speaker 2: when you look at Mahomes and you look at what
Speaker 2: they were able to do offense without their best defensive
Speaker 2: player on the road in a hostile environment, and I look,
Speaker 2: I know the Steelers have kind of fallen on hard time.
Speaker 2: They've lost their last three games, but that's still Pittsburgh.
Speaker 2: Very well coached, they have a very good defense. Offensively,
Speaker 2: they couldn't run the football today or.
Speaker 3: He did run it. Good god, Oh, that was lating
Speaker 3: the ball game.
Speaker 2: Nijie Harris had thirteen for seventy four. Jaylu Warren had
Speaker 2: a limb for seventy one. They had thirty one for
Speaker 2: two oh two. I think the turning point, oh shoe
Speaker 2: in that ball game is when rushed through that interception
Speaker 2: in the M zone got food, it was covered. Oh Joe,
Speaker 2: what it was? It was covered too. And what mcduffy
Speaker 2: did is that he got a jam so good on pickings.
Speaker 2: Pickings stocked. So in the process of him stopping, Reid
Speaker 2: is looking at it. He's like, well, I don't gotta
Speaker 2: get wide. Now I can stay right here on the
Speaker 2: hash school thought he was gonna get wide.
Speaker 3: He doesn't get wide.
Speaker 1: I got to say it was pickings. Pickings can't get
Speaker 1: jammed there because.
Speaker 3: You gotta go get you still gotta go, Joe, the safety.
Speaker 5: You got to put the safety in the motherfucking bind
Speaker 5: got to mind. Then it's a two way go. Rush
Speaker 5: has a two way to go with the ball. But
Speaker 5: once you took it once, once duffy took away pickings,
Speaker 5: it's only one. It's only and once you look ato
Speaker 5: the left, it's only one place you can.
Speaker 3: Go exactly because here the thing.
Speaker 2: If if Pickings gets past McDuffie, Uh, McDuffie got the retreat,
Speaker 2: but now since picking stopped, there ain't nothing to threat
Speaker 2: in the flat.
Speaker 3: So I'm stay right here.
Speaker 2: Yeah, And so now instead of getting wide, red says,
Speaker 2: I ain't why I need to get wired for it.
Speaker 3: Ain't no threat over there, no threat.
Speaker 2: Yeah, my threat is coming and he like boom and
Speaker 2: then he picked him and I think that cost him
Speaker 2: a little bit more.
Speaker 3: That cost him someone metum right there.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 5: And you know what the stealers in the first half,
Speaker 5: I mean they were they were trying to control time
Speaker 5: and possession. Obviously being able to run the ball, being
Speaker 5: able to run the ball and throw it here and there,
Speaker 5: especially to the tight end. Is if I don't, I
Speaker 5: don't want to. Butcher's name is it fire fire, move
Speaker 5: fire fire, move him and him and Russ was cooking
Speaker 5: for a little bit on some of those plays. The
Speaker 5: problem with them is when they were getting to the
Speaker 5: red zone, they weren't being They weren't scoring anyone't pitting
Speaker 5: up no damn points man. They won't put if you
Speaker 5: if you're getting down and if you're getting any were
Speaker 5: in the facility anywhere in the vicinity, you got to put.
Speaker 2: Up something, yes, yeah, yes, oh Jo. The Steelers didn't
Speaker 2: run the ball that well. Going into the fourth quarter.
Speaker 2: The Steelers had ten rushes for eighty nine yards.
Speaker 3: So that too.
Speaker 2: That been the fourth quarter yeah, and so now that
Speaker 2: tells me that's a lot of garbage yards. So in
Speaker 2: the fourth quarter at some point, like the Chiefs says,
Speaker 2: like we let y'all run it. We're just not gonna
Speaker 2: get all anything cheap, anything deep. Russell Wilson was twenty
Speaker 2: three or thirty seven, two oh five. He didn't play well.
Speaker 2: RUSS hadn't played well the last couple of weeks. And
Speaker 2: this team is not good enough to overcome poor play
Speaker 2: at the quarterback position. Remember that's why they made the
Speaker 2: switch to a Russ because they were winning games. But
Speaker 2: it's a struggle when your quarterback doesn't play well, because
Speaker 2: now you and these nail bodies and you got to
Speaker 2: go nip tuck, niptuck and nip tuck and a lot
Speaker 2: you gotta hope a lot of things go well. The
Speaker 2: one turnover, you only had the one turnover they but
Speaker 2: again they had two turnovers that that definitely took points
Speaker 2: off the board because they were already in field goal range.
Speaker 2: And so that interception that Reid got took points off
Speaker 2: the board. We don't know how that would have turned
Speaker 2: out if they could have held onto that ball.
Speaker 3: That friar moveth fumble, but when you when you when you.
Speaker 2: When you play up against play it against the Chiefs,
Speaker 2: even though they're not as explosive as they once were,
Speaker 2: you still you got to play. You still got to play,
Speaker 2: damnure perfect. Don't worry about then what they do with you.
Speaker 1: You have to. You have no choice, you know why,
Speaker 1: because of fifteen. Because of fifteen.
Speaker 3: Fortunate that's all.
Speaker 1: That's all they come down to.
Speaker 2: Twenty nine thirty eight three, twenty three touchdowns. Kelsey eight
Speaker 2: catches eighty four yards of touchdowns. Save You're worth It
Speaker 2: e catches seventy nine yards touchdown. Justin Watson two catches
Speaker 2: six two yards touchdown. Hollywood Brown four for forty six.
Speaker 3: So J p.
Speaker 2: Ryan two for twenty Juju two for eighteen. De Hop
Speaker 2: had a quiet day to day. But the thing is,
Speaker 2: and listen, y'all listen. I don't know what y'all thinking
Speaker 2: when they bring Justin Washington in the game. He running
Speaker 2: two routes, he running a nine or ain't running a post. Now,
Speaker 2: I don't know what y'all thinking, but y'all need to
Speaker 2: go back.
Speaker 1: He can run, Oh yeah, DV.
Speaker 2: I don't know what y'all been told that white, white,
Speaker 2: white guys can't run, they can't jump. When Justin Watson
Speaker 2: comes in the gate, he gonna run two routes, he
Speaker 2: running a post or he gonna run his nine route. Now,
Speaker 2: you ain't gotta believe me. But now when the man
Speaker 2: behind you, you like, you look at that, Well what happened?
Speaker 2: If I told you what's gonna happen. They're gonna run
Speaker 2: the dagger, the one to the backside, and they're gonna
Speaker 2: hope the safety jumping, and they're gonna run the post
Speaker 2: to the with him on it.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I'm so, I'm just giving.
Speaker 2: It's giving a nob just giving your heads up in
Speaker 2: case y'all don't want to watch film, but that with
Speaker 2: Justin Watson, because he got wheels, he can run, and
Speaker 2: he a big kid.
Speaker 3: He ain't no little receiver, O joe.
Speaker 5: I think Deontay Johnson he kind of underestimated him a
Speaker 5: little bit. He tried to jam him at the line
Speaker 5: and he missed, And I thought, you know Deonty. You
Speaker 5: know Deontay's fast now, so I thought maybe he thought, oh,
Speaker 5: I'm gonna catch up to.
Speaker 2: Him, O joe. People don't understand four three ain't catching
Speaker 2: four three. Four to three might catch four five. You
Speaker 2: ain't catching four three because you gotta realize you got
Speaker 2: the back pedal and then.
Speaker 1: Turn he running from the jump.
Speaker 2: Yeah yeah, you not catching that nah, and got a
Speaker 2: big play out of that. But the Steelers, who, y'all
Speaker 2: gotta dig dick now a because you know the Bengals
Speaker 2: are coming in. They know in order for them to
Speaker 2: have any chance, they've got to win that. If they
Speaker 2: win Sunday, they know in order for them to have
Speaker 2: any chance, they've got to win. Y'all gotta take care
Speaker 2: of this. The Broncos got y'all though.
Speaker 5: Hold on, hold on, when we when we win Saturday,
Speaker 5: we play Saturday.
Speaker 3: You're right, you're right.
Speaker 1: When we play and win Saturday, then we we do.
Speaker 1: We will take care of business with the Steelers. Right now,
Speaker 1: we focus on the Broncos, y'all.
Speaker 3: The Broncos.
Speaker 1: We focus on the Broncos.
Speaker 2: Broncos because after that game, Bronco who Bronco Country?
Speaker 3: Yeah?
Speaker 1: Okay, because after that game, y'all.
Speaker 3: Talking about welcome to the Jungle.
Speaker 1: Yeah, hey, y'all, it's a jungle. It's it's a jungle. Now.
Speaker 1: Believe that where were playing, y'all, that we we're going.
Speaker 3: To my high now y'all we coming y'all, And so
Speaker 3: what you think.
Speaker 1: For the happen? What you think for that matter of fact,
Speaker 1: I'm gonna go to that game Bronco Country. Matter of fact,
Speaker 1: I'm gonna go to that game.
Speaker 5: Hey, hey, Patrick, certain junior. What you're gonna do with
Speaker 5: what you're gonna do with on five out there?
Speaker 2: Do you realize when they target when they when they
Speaker 2: target PS two? Yeah, that QB that there rating is
Speaker 2: like thirty six point one. You come out better just
Speaker 2: throwing the ball in the dirt. You'll have a higher
Speaker 2: quarterback RADI if you just threw the ball in the dirt.
Speaker 1: Okay, So you you want you want to best something
Speaker 1: on the on the matchup?
Speaker 3: You already owe me three band?
Speaker 1: Oh you how much?
Speaker 3: Three band?
Speaker 1: Yeah, let's make let's let's double it nothing man, double
Speaker 1: h double nothing, doubleling nothing.
Speaker 2: How you go through the band? Don't no money and
Speaker 2: say get and say you know what A give me
Speaker 2: double what you owe me?
Speaker 3: Give me?
Speaker 2: I won't you give me double what I borrowed from you?
Speaker 2: And I'm gonna take your back.
Speaker 1: I tell you I'm good for it, though, no, you
Speaker 1: ain good for.
Speaker 2: It if you were good for it already, have it
Speaker 2: my money drawing interest in your pocket.
Speaker 1: You know, with double it up then, because with one
Speaker 1: thing about it, I'm gonna ge.
Speaker 5: I'm gonna get I'm gonna get it to you regardless,
Speaker 5: because you know I'm good for it.
Speaker 3: What they say money out of sight calls a fight.
Speaker 5: Wait, we're gonna fight because I listen, I'm not going
Speaker 5: I'm not going to jail and be no one else's.
Speaker 2: I'll tell you what I tell do what I tell people.
Speaker 2: Right here, Oh Joe, if I can't get you off
Speaker 2: off me, you welcome to state. I promise you that't
Speaker 2: all I got for you. If you get on me
Speaker 2: and I can't get you off, feel free to stay there.
Speaker 2: But I promise you'll better. I'll make you turn me loose.
Speaker 1: Hey. Hell no, Hey, that's a good one.
Speaker 6: That's a good one, O Joe.
Speaker 3: Check this out.
Speaker 2: Russell Wilson goes all out for gifts for his offensive lineman.
Speaker 2: He gave each to his offensive lineman a ten thousand
Speaker 2: dollars gift card Airbnb gift card that can be used
Speaker 2: anywhere around the globe. He got each one of them.
Speaker 2: Louis Biton Duffel bags and Stealers colors, colors, custom made Stealers,
Speaker 2: good Man Brain shoes made with Wilson's his clothing brand,
Speaker 2: and a bottle of Sierra's ten to one run. There
Speaker 2: were some good gifts that I mean the uh the Eagles,
Speaker 2: Hurts and Sakwan got the Lineman custom golf carts, so
Speaker 2: I'm talking about big ones.
Speaker 1: Uh.
Speaker 3: Josh Jacobs got the Offensive Lineman, Diamond Penn Penn.
Speaker 2: Yeah, we saw my homeboy forgot what my homeboy got
Speaker 2: his guys. But I mean, oh, he got a roll Hey,
Speaker 2: Lamar Jackson, he got his guys roll lexes.
Speaker 1: H L.
Speaker 2: Jack got his guys roll lexes, the Offensive Lineman. They
Speaker 2: feel real confident. They got Josh Allen of Penda with
Speaker 2: MVP on the back.
Speaker 6: Oh.
Speaker 1: They they jumped it.
Speaker 5: They jumped They jumping the gun right a little bit rightfully.
Speaker 5: So even if he done with it, you know, in
Speaker 5: their eyes he's had an MVP season. So I understand it.
Speaker 5: I understand it. But listen to quarterbacks. They make it.
Speaker 1: They make a different kind of money where you can
Speaker 1: give these type of gifts.
Speaker 3: Oh yeah, yeah, yeah yeah, give these type of gifts.
Speaker 1: To your linement and appreciation for what they've done for
Speaker 1: you throughout the entire end of the season. And it's
Speaker 1: a dope gesture. It's a very very dope gesture.
Speaker 3: Oh joy.
Speaker 2: And plus the fact, look, quarterbacks are different. Quarterbacks can
Speaker 2: go to dealers and need places that have these ATV's
Speaker 2: and all this other stuff, and they gonna get a discount.
Speaker 2: They're gonna hit me and you over the head. They
Speaker 2: gonna want full price.
Speaker 3: As a matter of.
Speaker 2: Fact, they buy up charge us. I mean, but the quarterbacks,
Speaker 2: they probably you bout how many you want to buy?
Speaker 2: Mr Mahomes. Okay, well we'll do this instead of charge.
Speaker 2: We'll give you to them for what we bought them for.
Speaker 2: You know what I'm saying. But uh, I mean Lamar got,
Speaker 2: Like I said, Lamar Got, he is a lineman. Rolex
Speaker 2: is also. I saw Booker McFarland tweet you talk about
Speaker 2: DB's when you're gonna get something for the d lineman.
Speaker 2: Y'all can't cover with out what out of brou.
Speaker 3: I don't, I don't.
Speaker 2: I don't know what to tell you about that book.
Speaker 2: I thank you first of all, but you don't even
Speaker 2: play no more. You should have thought about that when
Speaker 2: you was in the league, gave me me talk about
Speaker 2: tell about rc RC ain't in the league either. But uh,
Speaker 2: I'm trying to think, have I Have I ever heard
Speaker 2: of DB's getting something for the D line? Now, I haven't.
Speaker 3: No, I mean, I don't know.
Speaker 2: Maybe Ray got something for Goose in a big sam
Speaker 2: for his first m VP.
Speaker 3: I don't, I don't, I don't remember.
Speaker 2: I don't know, but uh, rested Soul Goose. Yeah, but
Speaker 2: those quarterbacks. But see, oh hell, I'm thinking fifty sixty
Speaker 2: million plus another probably five ten off the field because
Speaker 2: you I mean, Mahme might be doing fifteen to twenty
Speaker 2: million and endorsements off the field, so he might be bringing.
Speaker 3: Home seventy million a year.
Speaker 2: Well, yeah, what I care about dropping five a half
Speaker 2: a million to a million dollars on on.
Speaker 3: On my line.
Speaker 1: Yeah, that that ain't nothing.
Speaker 3: Yeah.
Speaker 2: According to Adam Schefter, Pete Carroll has expressed interests in
Speaker 2: the Chicago Bears head coaching job and would like to
Speaker 2: return to the sideline next season. Three teams, the Bears
Speaker 2: Toes the Saints are in the market for a head
Speaker 2: coach who can help reset their culture. A few coaches
Speaker 2: have had it more effective than Caroly doing that. Carol
Speaker 2: is one of the four head coaches that have led
Speaker 2: teams to both national championships and Super Bowls, Barry Switzer,
Speaker 2: Jimmy Johnson, and Jim Harbow. Like I like Pete, but
Speaker 2: not in Chicago. They need an offensive they need Look,
Speaker 2: they can get a defensit, but he has to go
Speaker 2: scour and get college maybe even a college oc. Right,
Speaker 2: that's creative, that knows how to work with the skill
Speaker 2: set of what Caleb Williams possessed. He can't he can't
Speaker 2: go get one of those conventional guys that he had
Speaker 2: in Seattle. That ain't gonna work, you know.
Speaker 1: What I think.
Speaker 5: Now we talked about the Chicago job, and I like
Speaker 5: what you said about Pete Carroll, who is a players coach.
Speaker 5: I think the coach, I mean the players will gravity
Speaker 5: to gravet gravitate towards him. But you do need a
Speaker 5: officer cordinator that has the creativity that can that can
Speaker 5: help Caleb Williams use some of use his skill set
Speaker 5: to admit ability, you know, and what he's able to do.
Speaker 2: Uh.
Speaker 5: Another another job. Now, we talked about Mike McCarthy, right, Yeah,
Speaker 5: just talked to the other night. Ben Johnson. What you
Speaker 5: think about this? Ben Johnson Dallas Cowboys. I like that,
Speaker 5: you know, I haven't heard his I heard his name
Speaker 5: mentioned before, but it was never with the Cowboys. I
Speaker 5: think Ben Johnson would be the perfect fit for the
Speaker 5: Cowboys and working with that and bringing some of that
Speaker 5: creativity that he does over there in Detroit. Now he
Speaker 5: doesn't have the same personnel to be able to do
Speaker 5: some of the things he did. But based on which
Speaker 5: you have and what he knows he has the strengths
Speaker 5: and the weaknesses of the players on that team, I
Speaker 5: think you will do some damage as that head coach. Hell,
Speaker 5: matter of fact, head coach and offensive coordinator. Keep calling
Speaker 5: the players Aaron Dallas too, if the opportunity presents itself.
Speaker 3: So yeah, Pete is out.
Speaker 2: Obviously, he left Seattle last year. They got Mike McDonald,
Speaker 2: who was the former defensive coordinator of the Baltimore Ravens.
Speaker 2: Zach Orr took over that job. Jump John Harbord. Guy
Speaker 2: has a nice little treat. I mean he got McDonald
Speaker 2: as a head coach. Zach or the defensive coordinator Anthony
Speaker 2: Weaver who was in Baltimore. He's the the DC at Miami.
Speaker 2: So John Harbard is put together a nice little staff,
Speaker 2: but Pete Carroll is interested in getting back into the NFL.
Speaker 2: Coach coach arbor coach Belichick seems like he might be
Speaker 2: only on the sidelines at North Carolina for one year
Speaker 2: because he has a one million dollar buyout after one season.
Speaker 3: But Ojo, you see how he did that?
Speaker 2: My son the defensive coordinator, and then if I step away,
Speaker 2: he gets to be coaching. Waited see how he did that? Now,
Speaker 2: I want to know. I want to know what they
Speaker 2: call that because I know a lot of people.
Speaker 1: Up and it start with the end. If I'm not mistake.
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, I ain't heard nobody say that word autism.
Speaker 3: That ain't even hurt. Nobody say anything about baptism. Right.
Speaker 1: I know one thing I like. I like what Belichick
Speaker 1: is doing too. Now.
Speaker 5: There have been very many rumblings when they were when
Speaker 5: there were job openings as head coaches in the NFL.
Speaker 5: Did you notice every team that did a higher how
Speaker 5: young the coach was.
Speaker 1: You understand what I mean? Now? You talked about it.
Speaker 1: We talked about it, and I said, I think this.
Speaker 5: Is a good thing for Belichick to go to North
Speaker 5: Carolina because this is what it's going to show the people.
Speaker 5: It's going to show the owners in the NFL. Listen,
Speaker 5: I was one of the greatest coaches of all time.
Speaker 5: Matter of fact, I am the greatest coach of all time.
Speaker 5: My coaching wage might be a little outdated for today's era,
Speaker 5: and I might not be able to relate to or
Speaker 5: resonate with the young players. I'm going to go to
Speaker 5: North Carolina. I'm gonna show you that I can be
Speaker 5: a leader of young men. I can resonate with this
Speaker 5: era and the younger kids of this generation and win
Speaker 5: in build a Knight's program. Letting own this note that
Speaker 5: I want back in the NFL because I can relate
Speaker 5: to and coach these young players of this generation as well.
Speaker 2: Yeah, but I'm just saying I don't see the outrage,
Speaker 2: because there's a lot of outrage, you know, if you
Speaker 2: notice when they do it, don't nobody from that culture
Speaker 2: talking about this nepotism.
Speaker 3: That's only us. Now we'll talk about it.
Speaker 2: We'll talk about it, but we talk about us. Oh
Speaker 2: brun they called it that brough to BRONI you see
Speaker 2: what he did. They do it all the time. Andy
Speaker 2: Reid had his sons on his staff coaching. Coach Belichick
Speaker 2: had his son on his staff coaching. But somehow we
Speaker 2: feel bad if we give our homeboy.
Speaker 6: Who you go.
Speaker 2: Look at the staff, Look at Mike, Look at Sean McVay,
Speaker 2: Look at Mike McDaniels, Look at a LA floor. Now,
Speaker 2: look at where they were they with Shana hand. Look
Speaker 2: how many guys on that staff keep it going. But
Speaker 2: they make us feel bad. No, I culture make us
Speaker 2: feel bad if we give somebody like us an opportunity.
Speaker 1: Listen, we're the only one to do that. Though we did.
Speaker 1: We we don't. We're not everybody, so we don't want
Speaker 1: to put.
Speaker 3: Everybody but.
Speaker 1: A good percentage though huh yes, good percentage.
Speaker 2: But I mean if if now, I ain't gonna put
Speaker 2: my son in a position if that's not what you
Speaker 2: want to do. Right, But Steve Belichick wants to coach. Okay,
Speaker 2: you want to coach. Oh, this so happens not a coach.
Speaker 2: Come on, my son wanted to be in media.
Speaker 3: This is what you want to do.
Speaker 2: Come on, now, what he wants to do. I don't
Speaker 2: got no problem. Good, it's okay when they do it,
Speaker 2: it's a problem when we do it.
Speaker 5: Yeah, you know, they you know us, it's always it's
Speaker 5: always gonna be something.
Speaker 1: It's always gonna be something.
Speaker 5: Anytime it's it comes to talking about getting ahead in
Speaker 5: any way, you know, and it doesn't it doesn't benefit
Speaker 5: the next person, you know.
Speaker 2: But but but how I mean, I want us to win.
Speaker 2: I really do owe you. I want us the community.
Speaker 2: I want everybody to win. But at my boys towards
Speaker 2: my community. Damn right, because I grew up in that community,
Speaker 2: and I think there's some things that we we can
Speaker 2: do and we should do.
Speaker 3: But we've got to stop this.
Speaker 2: Anytime someone becomes successful in our community, think they did
Speaker 2: something seedy or underminded or underhanded to get that.
Speaker 3: Oh he's sold his soul. They don't.
Speaker 2: I've never heard somebody say the Kelsey sould they sould.
Speaker 2: I've never heard. They don't say what Peyton manny got
Speaker 2: a billion do a company? It ain't nobody said he
Speaker 2: sold his soul. Me and you got a little thing man,
Speaker 2: uh that sold his soul.
Speaker 3: You noticed that.
Speaker 2: Peyton Many got a billion dollar company after making three
Speaker 2: hundred million plus in the NFL. And not one person
Speaker 2: has ever said Peyton man and sold and soul. Tom
Speaker 2: Brady get three four hundred million dollars. Not one person
Speaker 2: said Tom Brady, So I wonder what he had to
Speaker 2: do to get his get that job.
Speaker 3: Now I need y'all to jump in the chat and
Speaker 3: tell me why.
Speaker 1: You know why?
Speaker 3: Nah no, no, not that I want.
Speaker 2: To hear him saying, because it seemed like anytime we
Speaker 2: do something, what about hard work? So what did I
Speaker 2: do to get your the NFL? I sold my soul.
Speaker 1: Discipline.
Speaker 3: Y'all should see how I approach what I do. Now.
Speaker 2: Can you imagine how monocal I was when I was
Speaker 2: played to get to that?
Speaker 3: Right? That's not an accident. It's not an accent.
Speaker 2: Oh, y'all there are two people from the same house
Speaker 2: of thirty five hundred people in a town.
Speaker 3: Make it to that. That's not an accident. Yeah, But
Speaker 3: I just I'm like God, I mean you should think.
Speaker 2: Well, Hell the way I look at anything, O Joe,
Speaker 2: if I see somebody.
Speaker 3: Do it, I could do it. You did it? What
Speaker 3: they only so they only did it, they only what
Speaker 3: they stopped making it.
Speaker 2: They stop giving job people opportunities to do something because
Speaker 2: you did it. Hell no, M I don't think I'm
Speaker 2: better than anybody, Ojoe.
Speaker 3: I don't.
Speaker 2: I've never felt because or I could play football, I'm
Speaker 2: better than you, or I'm in this situation, I'm better
Speaker 2: than you. Do I think I could do my job
Speaker 2: better than you do your job. Yeah I do. Yeah,
Speaker 2: you should.
Speaker 1: Feel that way, most definitely. You should feel that way.
Speaker 2: But we're gonna were gonna, were gonna were gonna get this.
Speaker 2: We're gonna were gonna be able to pull a lot money.
Speaker 2: We're gonna pull lot of money together. I got John
Speaker 2: Hope Brown. I did a a speaking form for him,
Speaker 2: and I'm gonna have him. I'm gonna, uh, he's gonna
Speaker 2: come on and give him some he he man. I
Speaker 2: mean just sit down and talk to him on your
Speaker 2: boy he he he. He got his stuff together. Wait,
Speaker 2: John ho.
Speaker 1: Brant Bran Okay, okay, okay, you.
Speaker 2: Probably see him. I mean he got social media. You know,
Speaker 2: he got to think he has formed. And I'm talking
Speaker 2: about the big company, and I'm talking about the salesforces,
Speaker 2: the Deltas, the Googles that everybody right, uh, and and
Speaker 2: to to invest in how you build your credit score
Speaker 2: and how you how you you build a business and
Speaker 2: how you you know you invest in and and watch
Speaker 2: it grow over time. That's how you create well and
Speaker 2: then generational wealth. And so we're gonna have this in
Speaker 2: twenty five. We're gonna have him come on a couple
Speaker 2: of times and uh talk and so hopefully people shoot
Speaker 2: in and get some valuable some valuable insights of how
Speaker 2: uh how to invest. Look, everybody, it's hard to accumulate
Speaker 2: well when you don't have money, right, and we've got
Speaker 2: to stop the money that we have. If if you
Speaker 2: have a car that's more valuable than the money that
Speaker 2: you got in your savings account, there's a problem.
Speaker 1: Come on, that's a mobile problem.
Speaker 2: As he said that, he said he was telling the
Speaker 2: story like, look, if your assets is on your ass,
Speaker 2: that's a problem.
Speaker 3: And you know what I'm saying, O Joe. And a
Speaker 3: lot of a lot of times people like Ron, how you.
Speaker 2: Driving up and and and and and with a nice car,
Speaker 2: he's still in an apartment.
Speaker 1: You got to understand it's about image. It's about image.
Speaker 5: It's about looking to part, it's about looking as if
Speaker 5: you have it, because if you look like you got it,
Speaker 5: then you're you're able to get what it is you're attracting.
Speaker 5: Because when it comes to every everything is visual. Yes,
Speaker 5: think about social media. Everything is about visual. If I
Speaker 5: look like I got it, then I could attain some
Speaker 5: of the things that I'm attracted to.
Speaker 1: It's easy. It's easy. You just gotta look like it.
Speaker 5: Rench your car, get you some nice sold put up
Speaker 5: some nice shoes, put your some chains on.
Speaker 1: Okay, he looked like he got it.
Speaker 3: I'm gonna keep a chance, Ojo. Yeah.
Speaker 2: Kyle Paign said, you and I sold our souls.
Speaker 3: You know ye, no, no, no, I know he got
Speaker 3: He had to laugh and the moods up there.
Speaker 1: Okay, okay, but.
Speaker 2: Uh yeah, but we're gonna have him on to talk
Speaker 2: some some some financial literacy. Uh, you know, get money,
Speaker 2: And I said, ash and uh. In twenty fifteen, I
Speaker 2: met this guy and this guy said, Shannon, I want
Speaker 2: to give you an opportunity.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 2: At the time bitcoin, he said, we can do like
Speaker 2: ten coins, and because I know you, I'll let you
Speaker 2: have the coins for two hundred and fifty dollars a coin.
Speaker 1: Uh huh.
Speaker 2: You see I'm sitting here tapping my fingers. Yeah, I
Speaker 2: think the coin is now what like one hundred thousand
Speaker 2: a coin. This was in twenty fifteen. O Jo had
Speaker 2: out of if IDY go ahead, out of a O Joe,
Speaker 2: go ahead, take it over. It ain't no more Uncle Ojo.
Speaker 2: It's the O Joe show. Unk out of here. I
Speaker 2: will hit one of these, O Joe, I will hit
Speaker 2: one of these. I don't let a couple of go
Speaker 2: I don't let nelick.
Speaker 5: You know, you don't know what the funny thing about
Speaker 5: it is. It only takes this many times the head.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I don't let a chance to get Netflix when
Speaker 2: it was two dollars, had an opportunity to get a Google,
Speaker 2: had an opportunity to get bit coin.
Speaker 3: I'm gonna get one of these right one day, y'all.
Speaker 2: Now, I ain't gonna tell y'all which one, but they'll
Speaker 2: be saying that I came into a large summer money.
Speaker 3: There will be signs.
Speaker 2: Uh.
Speaker 3: Maybe it might be the farm of miniature cows that
Speaker 3: I have. Maybe I don't know.
Speaker 2: What it is, but you damn man, you talk here
Speaker 2: Unk on a farm with a thousand many cows, a thousand? Yeah?
Speaker 3: Yeah?
Speaker 2: Uh that no un all of a sudden, man, man, man,
Speaker 2: I heard unk gossip. Yeah, U got like fifteen dogs now,
Speaker 2: mm hmmm. So there'll be signs that Unk has come
Speaker 2: into a summer money. I ain't gonna say nothing, I
Speaker 2: ain't gonna mention anything about it. But if you see me,
Speaker 2: that's what that's what's gonna happen.