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Speaker 1: Wow, Hey there everybody. It is Wednesday, July two. Welcome

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Speaker 1: to the NFL Fantasy Football Podcast. But we're still shooting

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Speaker 1: off fireworks because that's what we like to do. It's

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Speaker 1: mean your man nam G, Marcus Grant, Michael left. Florio

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Speaker 1: is off this week. I think he would like to

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Speaker 1: the east coat. Wherever you are, Florio, safe travel and

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Speaker 1: we'll get you back soon. Got producer Randy at the

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Speaker 1: controls and yes, even though it was Independence Day a

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Speaker 1: couple of days ago, hopefully you all had a good,

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Speaker 1: safe holiday wherever you are, we're still kind of rolling here.

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Speaker 1: And I felt like, as we continue our cavalcade of

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Speaker 1: fantasy stars during the summer, this was the perfect opportunity

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Speaker 1: to bring on once again the one and only Scott

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Speaker 1: fish Because I'm sure if you are involved in fantasy

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Speaker 1: Twitter at all, you have seen people talking about the

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Speaker 1: invites going out to the Scott fish Bowl and before

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Speaker 1: you know what, you will see people tweeting about their

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Speaker 1: Scott fish Bowl draft. So why not get the creator

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Speaker 1: of the actual fish bowl to come on and talk

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Speaker 1: about it. And as we get closer to the start

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Speaker 1: of another event, So Scott appreciate you coming back on

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Speaker 1: the show. How are things in your corner of the

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Speaker 1: world going well, Man, going well, very very busy at

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Speaker 1: Cavalcade of Stars. I love that. I love the word man, cavalcade.

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Speaker 1: I don't hear that on shows too. Very Yeah, you know,

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Speaker 1: I I'm trying to I use that one. I'm trying

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Speaker 1: to work in the word flabbergasted into my everyday vernacular

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Speaker 1: He was going to try to drop it at some

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Speaker 1: point because I mentioned that. Yeah, so you know, you know,

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Speaker 1: just just throwing in the word flabber gas because it's

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Speaker 1: a good word. So, yes, it is. I think we

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Speaker 1: can all stand and just add a couple of vocabulary

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Speaker 1: words absolutely once in a while. Um So, I wanted

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Speaker 1: to kind of start by just kind of talking to

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Speaker 1: you about the history of this event. I mean, we

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Speaker 1: are coming up on SFB twelve. Uh So, how originally

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Speaker 1: did the fish Bowl come about? You know, I ran,

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Speaker 1: uh like I started, I made my way in the industry.

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Speaker 1: I I got into the industry through doing Debbie stuff

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Speaker 1: and uh I had my own webs website and we

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Speaker 1: bunch of different like fantasy analysts around the industry to

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Speaker 1: come playing it with our readers and listeners. And UH,

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Speaker 1: that was ninety six teams. We thought there was a big,

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Speaker 1: awesome thing. We did a couple of years, took a

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Speaker 1: But that's where it started, just just your basic reader

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Speaker 1: ninety six teams. I mean that's yes, that's a pretty

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Speaker 1: see that. Mike Clay. One year one, I was second place.

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Speaker 1: Now here we are on the eve of the twelfth one.

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Speaker 1: How many how many injuries do do you have? Now? Yeah,

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Speaker 1: Well and on top of that, I mean, I know

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Speaker 1: eleven thousand. Last year we had fifteen to sixteen does

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Speaker 1: The roster construction, the like the starting lineup, the size

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Speaker 1: the same. Um There's been various changes. Um this year.

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Speaker 1: One of the big changes that you guys are doing

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Speaker 1: live drafts UM. First off, how did that idea come

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Speaker 1: s fb X, covid it UM. Then for eleven it

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Speaker 1: So you talk about the the eleven different seas, I

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Speaker 1: of that coming up on the NFL Fantasy Football Show.

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Speaker 1: Talking with Scott Fish on the eve of the fish Bowl.

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Speaker 1: Drafts will be starting in about a week. Uh, And

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Speaker 1: So for everybody who's not you know, who hasn't been

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Speaker 1: of the things I liked because I am a proponent

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Speaker 1: of just in general, sort of tweaking quarterback scoring to

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Speaker 1: so to speak. So you went six point uh six

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Speaker 1: about your your rationale for how you put together your

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Speaker 1: QB scoring this year. Yeah, So it really comes from

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Speaker 1: kind of cover all of it now, right, it's so deep,

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Speaker 1: um that it really, it really is helpful to see

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Speaker 1: so many people doing so much good work. On the

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Speaker 1: flip side of that, though, Scott used to be there

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Speaker 1: when I would give people advice and people would come

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Speaker 1: to me asking for, you know, ways to get into

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Speaker 1: the industry. I used to tell people, you find something

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Speaker 1: that nobody else is doing. I know, I used to

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Speaker 1: go down that road. As you mentioned, that road's gotten

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Speaker 1: really narrow if it's there at all. Um, what what

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Speaker 1: advice now are you giving to people who are trying

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Speaker 1: to because because there's some people who are trying to

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Speaker 1: make their way here, what do you say to those

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Speaker 1: people who come asking you for advice? Yeah? So I

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Speaker 1: think the things I've started to lean more into is,

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Speaker 1: first off, you know, just just get sit down and write,

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Speaker 1: sit down and do more podcasts, and just keep doing

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Speaker 1: it and honing your craft whatever you love to do.

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Speaker 1: I also tell people, like I used to think it

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Speaker 1: because maybe I just came this way to try to

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Speaker 1: be very versatile. Now I tell people focus on what

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Speaker 1: your absolute passion is, you know, like, because that's the

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Speaker 1: thing you're gonna put out there most authentically and with

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Speaker 1: the most passion and energy. So I feel like if

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Speaker 1: you do the thing, if you really focus on the

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Speaker 1: thing that like brings you the most passion, people will

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Speaker 1: notice that that energy and the depth you go to

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Speaker 1: in that area, and you can, you know, you can

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Speaker 1: you probably know the their stuff to a degree on

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Speaker 1: the side and you can pick it up later, but

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Speaker 1: that might get you noticed a little better. And also

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Speaker 1: just just be nice and kind with everybody and network

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Speaker 1: with everybody, connect with everybody you possibly can. You never

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Speaker 1: know when this and you don't do it for a

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Speaker 1: business reason. You do it because you should be nice

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Speaker 1: and just be kind and work hard. But you never

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Speaker 1: know when when some guy that you're just talking to

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Speaker 1: articles with six years later is like, you know, leads

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Speaker 1: a department at US like maybe NFL nowur, I don't know,

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Speaker 1: you know what I mean? So, um, just just keep

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Speaker 1: making friends and connections in the industry. Those are a

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Speaker 1: few of the things I start to mention now, Yeah,

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Speaker 1: you know, I definitely I emphasize that last part to

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Speaker 1: people too, especially, but just being genuine and interacting with

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Speaker 1: people within the community. Um, you know it's it's I

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Speaker 1: will say that and you probably know this too. It's

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Speaker 1: there's one thing with the people who you sort of

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Speaker 1: kind of treat you like an advice a t M.

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Speaker 1: People who who are genuinely you know, interacting with you.

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Speaker 1: And you know, even if you tweet something that's not

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Speaker 1: fantasy related, that are are are responding and trying to

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Speaker 1: be you know, just cordial. And I think I feel

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Speaker 1: like you remember those people more. I think you're you know,

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Speaker 1: absolutely for the people who have who have decision making power. Uh,

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Speaker 1: You're more likely to think about those kind of people

485
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Speaker 1: rather than you know, the person who's just hitting you

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Speaker 1: up about you know, start sits on a week to

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Speaker 1: week basis. Um, before I let you go. And I

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Speaker 1: always appreciate the time Scott you on top of carving

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Speaker 1: out a path for folks in the DEBBI community, you

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Speaker 1: have been a resource for commissioners and I know you

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Speaker 1: do a lot of that. You do a commissioner theme podcast.

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Speaker 1: Uh so I have to ask you about one of

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Speaker 1: the big burning fantasy football issues of our time. Uh,

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Speaker 1: and that is, I guess, or was the feud between

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Speaker 1: Jack Peterson and Tommy Fam. I'm sure you saw all

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Speaker 1: about that. Fam slaps Peterson cheating. It was a whole

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Speaker 1: kerfuffle for a while, which, by the way, kerfuffle is

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Speaker 1: another good word that he used more often that word,

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Speaker 1: right exactly, We were all as a community flabbergasted that

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Speaker 1: things could escalate to that point. Um. It also got

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Speaker 1: to the point though, where Tommy Fam calls out Mike

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Speaker 1: Trout and says that he is quote the worst commissioner

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Speaker 1: in fantasy sports because he didn't step in. Um. For

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Speaker 1: you have you kind of seen this and we've all

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Speaker 1: seen this from the outside. Uh, how much how much

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Speaker 1: of this is laid at the feet of Mike Trout?

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Speaker 1: And what could he have done too? Maybe, uh, you know,

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Speaker 1: nip this in the bud. Yeah. So from my understanding,

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Speaker 1: From my understanding, the by laws said one thing, and

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Speaker 1: the rules on the host site that they were using

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Speaker 1: said another thing. Because Trout didn't put it in put

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Speaker 1: the setting incorrectly, um, and that's what caused the issue.

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Speaker 1: I commissioned a lot of leagues. I've I've screwed up

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Speaker 1: a setting here there. I know I have, um, there's uh,

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Speaker 1: I mean, there's a little bit of fault there. But

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Speaker 1: when this came up on honestly, I'm I'm team I'm

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Speaker 1: generally team go by the by laws, you know, the

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Speaker 1: like the the owners should you know, look and know

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Speaker 1: what the by laws say, and if they don't ask

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Speaker 1: about it, and if something happens and this comes up,

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Speaker 1: the commissioner needs to fix it. So I hate to

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Speaker 1: be like I try to be a little uh, I

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Speaker 1: don't know, you know, political on it. I try to

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Speaker 1: like stay on the stay on the side of you know,

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Speaker 1: you know, I can see fault in in all the sides.

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Speaker 1: First off, you never never slap anyone. I mean, uh,

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Speaker 1: but if if, if there's a fault to be laid,

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Speaker 1: I think it's a situation. If it were me, if

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Speaker 1: I were in Trout's shoes, I would have fixed that

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Speaker 1: right away and then like, I'm sorry, you can't do this.

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Speaker 1: This is what the by laws say. I know the

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Speaker 1: host site does that. I forgot to set that setting

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Speaker 1: that's on. But these are our by laws for the league,

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Speaker 1: you know, So I guess that's where I would lean.

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Speaker 1: But that thing blow up crazy, blow up crazy. Um,

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Speaker 1: I'm amused that the player in question is Jeff Wilson Jr.

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Speaker 1: Who was not exactly a league winner like this. This

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Speaker 1: is what it comes down to, was Jeff Wilson Jr.

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Speaker 1: But uh, you know it worked out for it was

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Speaker 1: a content creator, a content generator for for us. And

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Speaker 1: I might not have completely all the facts of the

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Speaker 1: case down I feel like I do, but you know,

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Speaker 1: if there's something more, you can let me know. But

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Speaker 1: it feels like that's what the issue was. No, that

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00:27:40,200 --> 00:27:42,639
Speaker 1: that seems very much the issue that you know that

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Speaker 1: the Jack Peterson said he was within the rules at

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Speaker 1: least of the of the site of the host. Uh

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Speaker 1: to to stash this guy on I R. Fam says

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Speaker 1: that's not what our league rules were. Um. I also

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Speaker 1: am sort of amazed and amused that Tommy Fam would

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Speaker 1: hold on to this anger for six months. Basically that's

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Speaker 1: impressive that, like, I've had stuff like this come up

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Speaker 1: in in leagues where not ten dollar leagues, but where

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Speaker 1: the ratio like his income to the buyer come to

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Speaker 1: money I played for, and I've never I'm just I'm

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Speaker 1: kind of calm and laid back though, So yeah, maybe

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Speaker 1: that's just the difference. They're they're professional athletes that are competitive,

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Speaker 1: that are super competitive. Yeah, I don't know that. I

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Speaker 1: I don't know that level level of hyper competition, competitiveness, whatever.

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Speaker 1: So whatever, Uh, Scott always appreciate the times a fun conversation. Uh,

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Speaker 1: you know, you're still you're putting out content. You're doing

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Speaker 1: things for people who maybe don't know where. Where's the

563
00:28:39,280 --> 00:28:41,760
Speaker 1: best place to find your stuff? You know, Twitter is

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Speaker 1: the easiest place. Scott Fish twenty four the fish Bowl

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Speaker 1: at scott fish bowl dot com you can sign up

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Speaker 1: for you know, maybe there's a few spots, you know,

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Speaker 1: once we start up, maybe some some teams will open up,

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Speaker 1: like someone will disappear, but otherwise you can sign up

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Speaker 1: for next year. I got Commission pod Um, Commission Impossile Ball.

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Speaker 1: You can search for it on whatever you want. It's

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00:29:02,280 --> 00:29:05,960
Speaker 1: an evergreen podcast, like how is there an evergreen podcast

572
00:29:06,040 --> 00:29:08,360
Speaker 1: in fantasy football where you record and you can listen

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Speaker 1: to it two years later. And then I'm on Fantasy

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Speaker 1: Football Weekly with Paul Charcy in every week all year round,

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Speaker 1: but in season we're not. We're on iHeart Radio a

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Speaker 1: seeking download us there. But it's also you know, it's

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Speaker 1: all year round or its season long, nationally syndicated on

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Speaker 1: radio stations all over the country. Too awesome, that's great.

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Speaker 1: Until I said, hello, I've I've been playing in his gear.

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00:29:28,600 --> 00:29:30,960
Speaker 1: He introduced me to guillotine leagues. I've been playing in

581
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Speaker 1: one of his for the last few years. So uh,

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Speaker 1: appreciate it. Looking for by the way I did that,

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Speaker 1: I put in a request. I know that not always accommodate,

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Speaker 1: but the tattooing, I think is where I'd like that

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Speaker 1: there are this year. If you, if you were able

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Speaker 1: to get it, I believe it. It got set right away. Okay,

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Speaker 1: sweet sweet, So yeah, I I requested tattooing. I believe

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Speaker 1: the second pick. You know there's there's two two sons.

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Speaker 1: I get the second pick. Perfect, perfect, Scott. Appreciate it, man,

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Speaker 1: be good and hopefully we'll talk to you again soon. Yes,

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00:30:03,400 --> 00:30:04,840
Speaker 1: thank you for having me. You have a great game,

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00:30:05,320 --> 00:30:06,720
Speaker 1: and you too. That'll do it for this edition of

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Speaker 1: the NFL Fantasy Football Podcast. A happy, safe, and healthy,

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Speaker 1: do good, live well, take care of yourself and other people,

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Speaker 1: and we'll talk to you next week. Wo wo wo

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Speaker 1: im don't go I don't