1 00:00:00,120 --> 00:00:03,000 Speaker 1: Our three of Clay and Buck gets going right now. 2 00:00:03,720 --> 00:00:06,000 Speaker 1: And as you know, Clay out on vacation for the 3 00:00:06,040 --> 00:00:08,520 Speaker 1: rest of the week. So is he out next week? 4 00:00:08,560 --> 00:00:12,520 Speaker 1: Two guys play, Yeah, he's out next week too, So 5 00:00:12,880 --> 00:00:14,960 Speaker 1: just gonna be yours true. It's a good thing. I'm hydrating. 6 00:00:15,400 --> 00:00:19,920 Speaker 1: It's gonna be yours truly for a while. Uh plays 7 00:00:20,160 --> 00:00:23,680 Speaker 1: up this week. Next week. I will be going overseas 8 00:00:23,760 --> 00:00:25,560 Speaker 1: in June for a week, so you know, we'll be 9 00:00:26,440 --> 00:00:29,360 Speaker 1: trading off here and there for some stuff. He's gonna get. 10 00:00:29,360 --> 00:00:33,440 Speaker 1: C's gonna be like Friday, June sixth. There you go. 11 00:00:34,240 --> 00:00:36,760 Speaker 1: And yeah, so we we got a lot of time 12 00:00:36,800 --> 00:00:39,120 Speaker 1: together team, which is good. And I'm glad that I am. 13 00:00:39,159 --> 00:00:40,680 Speaker 1: I'm glad that I'm on the mend. I will have 14 00:00:40,720 --> 00:00:43,760 Speaker 1: to tell you this that if some of you follow 15 00:00:43,800 --> 00:00:47,440 Speaker 1: me an ax, you saw this, but Ginger, who I 16 00:00:47,720 --> 00:00:51,120 Speaker 1: did not, I was not a Sometimes my wife is 17 00:00:51,120 --> 00:00:53,360 Speaker 1: listening to the show, so always have to remember that 18 00:00:53,360 --> 00:00:55,000 Speaker 1: there's like a few million of you and then my 19 00:00:55,040 --> 00:00:56,600 Speaker 1: wife too, So I have to be, you know, on 20 00:00:56,640 --> 00:00:59,880 Speaker 1: like really good behavior when I talk about dogs, because 21 00:00:59,920 --> 00:01:01,360 Speaker 1: I grew up, I grew up I was kind of 22 00:01:01,400 --> 00:01:03,400 Speaker 1: a bulldog guy. I'm just gonna tell you true. I 23 00:01:03,440 --> 00:01:06,280 Speaker 1: was a bulldog guy. I love English bulldog, French bulldog, 24 00:01:07,080 --> 00:01:10,080 Speaker 1: any squash, you know, the squishy face. Not not really 25 00:01:10,120 --> 00:01:12,600 Speaker 1: so much into the chow chouse. I'm sorry. I know 26 00:01:12,760 --> 00:01:15,080 Speaker 1: some people love the chaw They can be a little 27 00:01:15,160 --> 00:01:18,440 Speaker 1: little bit of biers. I love all dogs though, as 28 00:01:18,440 --> 00:01:22,080 Speaker 1: you know, beautiful dogs. I love all dogs. And uh, 29 00:01:23,040 --> 00:01:25,400 Speaker 1: I wasn't really a doodle guy. And my wife goes, no, no, no. 30 00:01:25,440 --> 00:01:28,520 Speaker 1: You know her family they got it's like a doodle sanctuary. 31 00:01:28,560 --> 00:01:31,720 Speaker 1: They got doodles, oodles of doodles in my for my 32 00:01:31,760 --> 00:01:34,440 Speaker 1: in laws, they got doodles everywhere. And so I said, 33 00:01:34,440 --> 00:01:37,520 Speaker 1: all right, fine, so honey, you know, happy wife, happy life. 34 00:01:37,920 --> 00:01:40,080 Speaker 1: Uh you know, we've been married a year. You want 35 00:01:40,160 --> 00:01:42,800 Speaker 1: let's get Let's get exactly the dog you want. I 36 00:01:42,840 --> 00:01:44,880 Speaker 1: love that silly, little fluffy dog so much. I don't 37 00:01:44,880 --> 00:01:45,440 Speaker 1: want to tell you. 38 00:01:45,480 --> 00:01:45,760 Speaker 2: All right. 39 00:01:45,840 --> 00:01:50,560 Speaker 1: She's great Australian labradoodle. And when I was sick, she 40 00:01:50,560 --> 00:01:52,680 Speaker 1: would come. She never does this. She would come and 41 00:01:52,720 --> 00:01:55,720 Speaker 1: she would lie in the doorway of the of the 42 00:01:55,760 --> 00:01:59,960 Speaker 1: guest bedroom that we have, which is gonna eventually be 43 00:02:00,080 --> 00:02:03,480 Speaker 1: the baby's room. But I would lie in the door. 44 00:02:03,600 --> 00:02:06,520 Speaker 1: She would lie in the doorway just kind of a 45 00:02:06,560 --> 00:02:10,440 Speaker 1: little vigil just keeping me company. And uh yeah, it's 46 00:02:10,520 --> 00:02:12,600 Speaker 1: just amazing. I and people say, oh, do you really 47 00:02:12,639 --> 00:02:17,760 Speaker 1: think dogs know when you're sick. Yeah, they absolutely know. Uh, 48 00:02:17,960 --> 00:02:20,240 Speaker 1: dogs know a lot more about what's going on with us. 49 00:02:20,240 --> 00:02:23,480 Speaker 1: Just because they can't communicate in English or in any 50 00:02:23,560 --> 00:02:26,040 Speaker 1: language of that matter down here in Miami. It might 51 00:02:26,080 --> 00:02:28,560 Speaker 1: be Spanish, whatever, it doesn't matter. In whatever language that 52 00:02:28,560 --> 00:02:32,639 Speaker 1: they would be communicating with us, they have They have 53 00:02:32,680 --> 00:02:37,280 Speaker 1: an incredible not just I think, kind of intuition about 54 00:02:37,280 --> 00:02:39,040 Speaker 1: their owners to spend so much time and are so 55 00:02:39,120 --> 00:02:42,280 Speaker 1: focused on you. They can their sense of smell is 56 00:02:42,720 --> 00:02:45,040 Speaker 1: it is truly superhuman in the sense that it is 57 00:02:45,120 --> 00:02:49,760 Speaker 1: thousands of times more powerful than what we have. Dogs 58 00:02:49,800 --> 00:02:53,440 Speaker 1: have been trained to be able to smell cancer. Uh dog, 59 00:02:53,560 --> 00:02:56,120 Speaker 1: it's it's I think they're now training dogs smell fentanyl 60 00:02:56,120 --> 00:02:59,200 Speaker 1: at the border, which is also very useful. But anyway, 61 00:02:59,240 --> 00:03:01,080 Speaker 1: I just this this little dogs. She was so great 62 00:03:01,160 --> 00:03:04,679 Speaker 1: and it was really helpful because also dogs can't get neurovirus, 63 00:03:05,200 --> 00:03:08,240 Speaker 1: so I could be like, come here, you know, you 64 00:03:08,280 --> 00:03:11,480 Speaker 1: can be close. It's okay, Daddy's gonna be all right. 65 00:03:11,600 --> 00:03:14,400 Speaker 1: He thinks if he could chug some of this pedia 66 00:03:14,480 --> 00:03:18,639 Speaker 1: light anyway, the dog dogs are great, and those of 67 00:03:18,639 --> 00:03:20,919 Speaker 1: your dog owners, you know, and when you're really sick, man, 68 00:03:20,919 --> 00:03:23,079 Speaker 1: and the dog crawls up on the bed and you 69 00:03:23,120 --> 00:03:25,320 Speaker 1: have like everyone has to stay away from you, but 70 00:03:25,400 --> 00:03:27,200 Speaker 1: the dog is there for you. And I know for 71 00:03:27,200 --> 00:03:29,000 Speaker 1: some of you it's your cats. Maybe for some of 72 00:03:29,000 --> 00:03:33,400 Speaker 1: you it's your donkeys. I'm seeing miniature donkeys more and 73 00:03:33,480 --> 00:03:35,839 Speaker 1: more as pets. I do love that idea. I don't 74 00:03:35,840 --> 00:03:37,960 Speaker 1: think it would go over well with my condo association, 75 00:03:38,160 --> 00:03:40,840 Speaker 1: but I do think that donkeys would be a lot 76 00:03:40,840 --> 00:03:47,120 Speaker 1: of fun. Donkeys are very, very attuned to humans, very affectionate. 77 00:03:47,160 --> 00:03:47,360 Speaker 2: You know. 78 00:03:47,760 --> 00:03:49,600 Speaker 1: I've always found horses. I know some of you're gonna 79 00:03:49,600 --> 00:03:51,720 Speaker 1: be big horse people. I've always found horses like a 80 00:03:51,760 --> 00:03:54,400 Speaker 1: little sometimes can feel a little aloof Maybe I just 81 00:03:54,400 --> 00:03:57,080 Speaker 1: don't know horses very well. Donkeys they come over, they 82 00:03:57,080 --> 00:03:58,400 Speaker 1: want to sit in your lap. I mean, it's just 83 00:03:58,480 --> 00:04:01,800 Speaker 1: it's a totally different deal. All right, big beautiful Bill, 84 00:04:02,080 --> 00:04:03,680 Speaker 1: let's get into some of this first hour. We talked 85 00:04:03,680 --> 00:04:06,200 Speaker 1: about how Elon is a little frustrated with where it's 86 00:04:06,200 --> 00:04:09,080 Speaker 1: going with the Doge team. And look, I think that 87 00:04:09,160 --> 00:04:12,400 Speaker 1: no matter what, the Doge team has done a huge 88 00:04:12,440 --> 00:04:16,839 Speaker 1: service just in telling us all about the kinds of 89 00:04:16,920 --> 00:04:21,760 Speaker 1: wasteful spending and the amount of just nonsense that's going 90 00:04:21,800 --> 00:04:25,159 Speaker 1: on with these payments. But we still come back to, 91 00:04:25,920 --> 00:04:29,160 Speaker 1: like a lot of things, will Congress do anything about it? 92 00:04:30,160 --> 00:04:34,280 Speaker 1: We're seeing where the limits of executive power are. I think, 93 00:04:34,320 --> 00:04:36,320 Speaker 1: in some ways the artificial limits, because a lot of 94 00:04:36,360 --> 00:04:39,240 Speaker 1: what's being done to rain Trump in is just it's 95 00:04:39,279 --> 00:04:42,880 Speaker 1: purely partisan in nature. It's not, Oh, this is really 96 00:04:42,960 --> 00:04:47,800 Speaker 1: about where executive power constitutionally stops and starts. There are 97 00:04:47,880 --> 00:04:51,479 Speaker 1: judges who are just anti Trump loans and they want 98 00:04:51,520 --> 00:04:54,160 Speaker 1: to stop whatever it is that Trump is doing. Right, 99 00:04:54,200 --> 00:04:56,120 Speaker 1: We've seen that, that's obvious, and they're gonna have to 100 00:04:56,200 --> 00:04:58,920 Speaker 1: keep working through the courts on that. Yeah, Trump the tyrant. 101 00:04:58,960 --> 00:05:01,800 Speaker 1: He's always like, yeah, oh okay, I'll see you in court. 102 00:05:01,839 --> 00:05:03,640 Speaker 1: You know, we'll make the best arguments and we'll see 103 00:05:03,640 --> 00:05:06,440 Speaker 1: how this goes. It's not what tyrants do, as you 104 00:05:06,480 --> 00:05:11,800 Speaker 1: know and I know. But anyway, I think that Trump 105 00:05:11,880 --> 00:05:15,760 Speaker 1: is in a position right now where he has the 106 00:05:15,760 --> 00:05:19,760 Speaker 1: most political capital he has ever had and the most 107 00:05:20,320 --> 00:05:24,679 Speaker 1: ability to change things. But Congress is a big part 108 00:05:24,880 --> 00:05:30,040 Speaker 1: of the equation, and so the limits of what can 109 00:05:30,080 --> 00:05:33,279 Speaker 1: be accomplished here when it comes to this bill, the 110 00:05:33,320 --> 00:05:36,800 Speaker 1: limits are in many ways, I think, just self enforced 111 00:05:36,839 --> 00:05:39,680 Speaker 1: by Congress. And it does get me to this place of, 112 00:05:40,720 --> 00:05:43,600 Speaker 1: you know, eventually somebody is gonna and I'm not saying, oh, 113 00:05:43,640 --> 00:05:45,920 Speaker 1: Trump's we should get rid of the filibuster now because 114 00:05:45,920 --> 00:05:48,400 Speaker 1: our guy's in charge, because I know, you know, this 115 00:05:48,520 --> 00:05:51,200 Speaker 1: has been holding out for a while, and I think 116 00:05:51,200 --> 00:05:54,080 Speaker 1: eventually it is going to go, because eventually people will 117 00:05:54,120 --> 00:05:56,120 Speaker 1: tire of it. It might take a crisis, maybe even 118 00:05:56,160 --> 00:05:59,120 Speaker 1: the kind of fiscal crisis that we're heading toward by 119 00:05:59,160 --> 00:06:01,440 Speaker 1: not actually dealing with the debt, because we're not dealing 120 00:06:01,440 --> 00:06:04,200 Speaker 1: with the debt. We're just not. I wish I could 121 00:06:04,240 --> 00:06:06,640 Speaker 1: tell you we are. I think a lot of what's 122 00:06:06,640 --> 00:06:10,120 Speaker 1: going to happen in this economy in this bill is 123 00:06:11,000 --> 00:06:13,040 Speaker 1: going to be great, and I'm very optimistic. But I'm 124 00:06:13,080 --> 00:06:16,279 Speaker 1: very optimistic about the next year, the next four years. 125 00:06:17,120 --> 00:06:19,240 Speaker 1: Am I optimistic about where what this looks like in 126 00:06:19,279 --> 00:06:24,080 Speaker 1: ten years, twenty years, And that's really the question. And 127 00:06:24,720 --> 00:06:29,160 Speaker 1: because of the structure and the nature of our political cycles, 128 00:06:29,240 --> 00:06:32,880 Speaker 1: It's very hard to get anything done based on no 129 00:06:32,920 --> 00:06:35,200 Speaker 1: matter how much of a certainty it is, anything done 130 00:06:35,240 --> 00:06:38,560 Speaker 1: based on how much of a certainty catastrophe is ten 131 00:06:38,640 --> 00:06:42,120 Speaker 1: years from now. I tell you in American politics that 132 00:06:42,120 --> 00:06:44,960 Speaker 1: we are heading toward catastrophe in ten years. Nobody cares. 133 00:06:45,000 --> 00:06:47,240 Speaker 1: I tell you what's happening in ten days. Maybe people 134 00:06:47,279 --> 00:06:51,960 Speaker 1: pay attention. Ten months, probably ten years. Nope, can't do it, 135 00:06:52,320 --> 00:06:54,400 Speaker 1: can't do Oh, things will change, We'll figure it out. 136 00:06:55,279 --> 00:06:57,680 Speaker 1: And you know, we've had Ron Johnson on the show 137 00:06:57,720 --> 00:07:00,440 Speaker 1: from the Senate to talk about this, and he's a 138 00:07:00,440 --> 00:07:04,360 Speaker 1: big Trump supporter, as you know, supports the agenda, and 139 00:07:04,480 --> 00:07:06,760 Speaker 1: he still has his concerns. Now it's got to go 140 00:07:06,800 --> 00:07:10,360 Speaker 1: through the Senate side of things. Is you know, the 141 00:07:10,400 --> 00:07:12,200 Speaker 1: House is what when? When is the House on a 142 00:07:12,280 --> 00:07:15,880 Speaker 1: summer vacation? The House and the like public school teachers, 143 00:07:15,880 --> 00:07:19,080 Speaker 1: they get a lot of time off Ron Johnson. This 144 00:07:19,160 --> 00:07:22,600 Speaker 1: is cut too. Here he is saying from the Senate 145 00:07:22,680 --> 00:07:25,800 Speaker 1: side of things, he's got concerns. Play it so you 146 00:07:25,920 --> 00:07:29,520 Speaker 1: will vote to raise the debt ceiling if in fact 147 00:07:29,720 --> 00:07:32,280 Speaker 1: you get these spending cuts that you're talking about. 148 00:07:32,680 --> 00:07:35,120 Speaker 3: Absolutely all I've asked for is a commitment to a 149 00:07:35,160 --> 00:07:38,400 Speaker 3: pre pandemic bubble spending and a process to achieve and 150 00:07:38,400 --> 00:07:40,880 Speaker 3: maintain it. We've never had a process to control spending. 151 00:07:41,120 --> 00:07:44,440 Speaker 3: Don't have a Bow's budget requirement. The Corporation committees didn't work, 152 00:07:44,760 --> 00:07:47,160 Speaker 3: Budget Act didn't work, simp and bulls didn't work. The 153 00:07:47,200 --> 00:07:47,840 Speaker 3: only thing I can. 154 00:07:47,720 --> 00:07:49,520 Speaker 4: See is a very business versus approach. 155 00:07:50,040 --> 00:07:53,400 Speaker 3: Line by line exposed the grotesque waste in the fraud 156 00:07:53,440 --> 00:07:53,840 Speaker 3: and abuse. 157 00:07:54,080 --> 00:07:54,880 Speaker 5: This will be a five. 158 00:07:54,760 --> 00:07:57,080 Speaker 3: Minute conversation in a business So, guys, I told you 159 00:07:57,160 --> 00:07:59,680 Speaker 3: could increase your budget based on inflation and the number 160 00:07:59,680 --> 00:08:01,760 Speaker 3: of cups from a HISS reserved your attempt said above 161 00:08:01,760 --> 00:08:05,280 Speaker 3: that cut it. We need President Trump to lead on this. 162 00:08:05,560 --> 00:08:08,560 Speaker 3: He needs to be fully committed to not funding the 163 00:08:08,600 --> 00:08:10,240 Speaker 3: deep state at President Binds levels. 164 00:08:12,320 --> 00:08:15,200 Speaker 1: He seems very set on this. Senator Ram Paul has 165 00:08:15,240 --> 00:08:18,400 Speaker 1: been with us on this too, and he's also very 166 00:08:18,400 --> 00:08:20,720 Speaker 1: supportive overall of a lot of you know, supportive of 167 00:08:20,760 --> 00:08:24,000 Speaker 1: the tax cut, supportive of many of the of the 168 00:08:24,040 --> 00:08:28,440 Speaker 1: primary components of this bill. And you know it comes 169 00:08:28,480 --> 00:08:30,960 Speaker 1: down to and Trump said this during the live press 170 00:08:30,960 --> 00:08:34,280 Speaker 1: conference today, just politics man, to get these Republicans to 171 00:08:34,360 --> 00:08:36,920 Speaker 1: vote for it, to get to get all the good things, 172 00:08:37,240 --> 00:08:39,040 Speaker 1: we've got to get some things in there that we 173 00:08:39,080 --> 00:08:43,960 Speaker 1: don't like as much. That's really what everyone's just saying 174 00:08:44,040 --> 00:08:47,360 Speaker 1: right now. That's where it is. There's I don't think 175 00:08:47,360 --> 00:08:51,280 Speaker 1: there's really much of a fight over what the good 176 00:08:51,320 --> 00:08:53,920 Speaker 1: things are on the bill or what the long term 177 00:08:53,960 --> 00:08:58,400 Speaker 1: projections on the bill may be. Here's Stephen Miller explaining 178 00:08:58,440 --> 00:09:01,120 Speaker 1: on a process level some of what's going on here. 179 00:09:01,160 --> 00:09:04,960 Speaker 1: He put this out on X. DOGE cuts are two 180 00:09:05,080 --> 00:09:09,640 Speaker 1: discretionary spending, he writes, like the federal bureaucracy, under the 181 00:09:09,679 --> 00:09:14,400 Speaker 1: Senate budget rules, you cannot cut discretionary spending, only mandatory 182 00:09:14,440 --> 00:09:18,720 Speaker 1: spending in a reconciliation bill, so DOGE cuts would have 183 00:09:18,800 --> 00:09:21,880 Speaker 1: to be done through what is known as a recision 184 00:09:22,000 --> 00:09:26,640 Speaker 1: package or an appropriations bill. The Big Beautiful Bill is 185 00:09:26,760 --> 00:09:29,880 Speaker 1: not an annual budget bill and does not fund the 186 00:09:29,960 --> 00:09:33,760 Speaker 1: Department of Government. It does not finance our agencies or 187 00:09:33,800 --> 00:09:38,480 Speaker 1: federal programs. Instead, it includes the single largest welfare reform 188 00:09:38,480 --> 00:09:41,600 Speaker 1: in American history, along with the largest tax cut and 189 00:09:41,640 --> 00:09:45,440 Speaker 1: reform in American history, the most aggressive energy exploration in 190 00:09:45,480 --> 00:09:49,280 Speaker 1: American history, and the strongest border bill in American history, 191 00:09:49,320 --> 00:09:56,120 Speaker 1: all while reducing the deficit. Now, I know Steven Miller 192 00:09:56,120 --> 00:09:58,040 Speaker 1: well enough to know that everything that he's written here 193 00:09:58,080 --> 00:10:01,439 Speaker 1: is true. I think you can take this to the bank. 194 00:10:02,200 --> 00:10:07,280 Speaker 1: The challenge here in all of this is that it's 195 00:10:07,320 --> 00:10:13,360 Speaker 1: all true, but there's also there's also the reality of, well, 196 00:10:14,240 --> 00:10:19,559 Speaker 1: even if this is all accurate, reducing a deficit when 197 00:10:19,600 --> 00:10:21,960 Speaker 1: you have a thirty seven or thirty six trillion dollar 198 00:10:22,080 --> 00:10:26,600 Speaker 1: debt and you still have a trillion plus deficit yearly 199 00:10:26,800 --> 00:10:30,200 Speaker 1: is not enough. If I told you, you know, if 200 00:10:30,240 --> 00:10:32,440 Speaker 1: it was one of those shows you call in You're like, hey, 201 00:10:33,240 --> 00:10:35,280 Speaker 1: you know, my wife and I have five thousand dollars 202 00:10:35,360 --> 00:10:36,960 Speaker 1: in the bank and we want to go on a 203 00:10:37,000 --> 00:10:40,400 Speaker 1: fifty thousand dollars vacation and I'm afraid I might lose 204 00:10:40,440 --> 00:10:42,320 Speaker 1: my job next week. We have no savings and we 205 00:10:42,360 --> 00:10:44,520 Speaker 1: have a huge mortgage on the house. It's like, no, 206 00:10:44,640 --> 00:10:47,800 Speaker 1: don't do that. Bad that's a bad idea. I mean, 207 00:10:47,840 --> 00:10:49,880 Speaker 1: I know I can do this too, Don't do that. 208 00:10:49,880 --> 00:10:53,560 Speaker 1: That's a bad idea. If you are thirty six trillion 209 00:10:53,600 --> 00:10:58,199 Speaker 1: dollars is a nation in debt, and you are looking 210 00:10:58,240 --> 00:11:01,160 Speaker 1: at spending a trillion dollars plus a year beyond what 211 00:11:01,200 --> 00:11:05,280 Speaker 1: you are currently you know, beyond the current death that 212 00:11:05,320 --> 00:11:08,240 Speaker 1: you have. That's what the deficit is, what the shortfall 213 00:11:08,400 --> 00:11:12,520 Speaker 1: is annually. The dead is the whole thing put together 214 00:11:12,760 --> 00:11:15,440 Speaker 1: that we and like I've said before, the Tea Party 215 00:11:15,559 --> 00:11:18,080 Speaker 1: was the Tea Party was doing their thing at like 216 00:11:18,280 --> 00:11:23,560 Speaker 1: ten trillion or something. Wasn't that long ago ten trillion 217 00:11:23,640 --> 00:11:26,040 Speaker 1: and that was oh my gosh, And now it's thirty 218 00:11:26,559 --> 00:11:27,320 Speaker 1: five trillion. 219 00:11:27,880 --> 00:11:28,080 Speaker 3: You know. 220 00:11:28,120 --> 00:11:30,960 Speaker 1: The math here is the math. The math is a problem. 221 00:11:32,160 --> 00:11:37,400 Speaker 1: So if we can't get Trump to do the kinds 222 00:11:37,440 --> 00:11:43,160 Speaker 1: of things that might seem painful and with that maybe transformative, 223 00:11:43,240 --> 00:11:45,360 Speaker 1: I don't know who would be in a I don't 224 00:11:45,360 --> 00:11:46,959 Speaker 1: know who's going to be in a better position. Certainly 225 00:11:46,960 --> 00:11:49,560 Speaker 1: from the Republican side of things. Democrats will spend us 226 00:11:49,559 --> 00:11:52,720 Speaker 1: into oblivion. I have no doubt, there is no question 227 00:11:52,760 --> 00:11:56,040 Speaker 1: a by my Democrats. They will spend us into oblivion. 228 00:11:56,600 --> 00:11:59,440 Speaker 1: And they figure, well, as long as that then the 229 00:11:59,480 --> 00:12:02,839 Speaker 1: government's more in charge because the currency is debased and 230 00:12:02,880 --> 00:12:05,400 Speaker 1: they're gonna print money, and the government's going to be 231 00:12:05,440 --> 00:12:08,360 Speaker 1: even more involved in you know, they're gonna they're gonna 232 00:12:08,400 --> 00:12:11,240 Speaker 1: ruin private industry, They're gonna crowd out private expenditures. You're 233 00:12:11,240 --> 00:12:14,400 Speaker 1: gonna all this stuff. They they are fine with it. 234 00:12:14,520 --> 00:12:16,760 Speaker 1: The Democrats aren't gonna tackle this at all. We know 235 00:12:16,800 --> 00:12:19,280 Speaker 1: that it's up to the Republicans to be the adults 236 00:12:19,280 --> 00:12:21,160 Speaker 1: in the room and start to say, you know, enough 237 00:12:21,200 --> 00:12:24,160 Speaker 1: is enough. But you know, it's like telling somebody it's 238 00:12:24,200 --> 00:12:26,520 Speaker 1: time to go on a diet, and let me tell you, 239 00:12:26,920 --> 00:12:29,760 Speaker 1: I know about this first month of the diet. It's 240 00:12:29,800 --> 00:12:32,160 Speaker 1: not fun. First month of the diet. You're like, you 241 00:12:32,240 --> 00:12:33,680 Speaker 1: know what tastes really good right now? 242 00:12:33,920 --> 00:12:36,520 Speaker 2: Cheese cake? Cheese cake is good. 243 00:12:37,320 --> 00:12:39,079 Speaker 1: You know what doesn't taste as good when you're used 244 00:12:39,080 --> 00:12:46,160 Speaker 1: to eating a lot of cheesecake, lean, ground turkey, no fat. 245 00:12:46,440 --> 00:12:50,079 Speaker 1: You know, ninetylean or one hundred percent lean doesn't taste 246 00:12:50,080 --> 00:12:53,800 Speaker 1: as good. But you know what, it's important. It's important 247 00:12:53,800 --> 00:12:56,600 Speaker 1: if you want to lead a long, healthy life to 248 00:12:56,640 --> 00:13:00,520 Speaker 1: get to the place you need to be metabolically. And 249 00:13:01,920 --> 00:13:05,360 Speaker 1: same thing with the country, same thing with our debt. 250 00:13:05,600 --> 00:13:08,040 Speaker 1: It is all about whether we're willing to make the 251 00:13:08,120 --> 00:13:13,360 Speaker 1: changes and tackle the issues now before they are crises. 252 00:13:13,760 --> 00:13:16,559 Speaker 1: And increasingly, what I see, and I've said it you before, 253 00:13:17,440 --> 00:13:20,200 Speaker 1: I don't think we are and I wish I could 254 00:13:20,200 --> 00:13:22,920 Speaker 1: come up with you know, come up with a happy 255 00:13:23,280 --> 00:13:26,760 Speaker 1: way of putting this. But we're and I say we 256 00:13:26,880 --> 00:13:28,880 Speaker 1: it's not even about Trump. It's more than about Trump 257 00:13:28,920 --> 00:13:32,000 Speaker 1: and this administration. We the American people don't want to 258 00:13:32,000 --> 00:13:34,480 Speaker 1: do it, or at least a majority of us who 259 00:13:34,600 --> 00:13:38,319 Speaker 1: vote don't want to do it. No interest in it. 260 00:13:38,840 --> 00:13:43,079 Speaker 1: Can't touch entitlements, can't change automatic spending. Think about that, 261 00:13:43,720 --> 00:13:47,160 Speaker 1: automatic spending. Can't touch automatic spending. Well, if it's automatic, 262 00:13:47,160 --> 00:13:51,080 Speaker 1: guess what this is where it's gonna go. It's gonna 263 00:13:51,120 --> 00:13:53,520 Speaker 1: get worse. Now we can talk about some of the 264 00:13:53,520 --> 00:13:55,040 Speaker 1: great things. Like I said, I think the next year, 265 00:13:55,080 --> 00:13:57,280 Speaker 1: I think the economy is gonna boom. It's gonna be fantastic. 266 00:13:57,880 --> 00:14:00,440 Speaker 1: But now is our chance to deal with things in 267 00:14:00,480 --> 00:14:02,480 Speaker 1: a way that'll put us on better footing for ten 268 00:14:02,559 --> 00:14:04,599 Speaker 1: years from now and for our kids and our grandkids 269 00:14:04,600 --> 00:14:06,199 Speaker 1: and for those of you who have them. Great gang, yeah, 270 00:14:06,240 --> 00:14:09,920 Speaker 1: great grandkids. Now is the time to make those decisions. 271 00:14:10,400 --> 00:14:13,960 Speaker 1: Are we doing that? I think that's a tougher case 272 00:14:14,000 --> 00:14:15,320 Speaker 1: to make, but I'm open to it. 273 00:14:15,880 --> 00:14:16,280 Speaker 2: Let me know. 274 00:14:16,559 --> 00:14:18,920 Speaker 1: Eight hundred two way two two eight two Light up 275 00:14:18,960 --> 00:14:21,720 Speaker 1: the lines? 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He should have took all these little bills, 310 00:16:16,880 --> 00:16:19,760 Speaker 5: no tax on tips, no tax on overtime, no tax 311 00:16:19,800 --> 00:16:23,200 Speaker 5: on social Security, and made the Democrats vote up and 312 00:16:23,280 --> 00:16:27,000 Speaker 5: down on those bills so people could see where they stand. 313 00:16:27,080 --> 00:16:29,440 Speaker 5: If he'd got the win, and he'd had three wins 314 00:16:29,480 --> 00:16:33,200 Speaker 5: under his belt, and if they wouldn't, if the Democrats 315 00:16:33,240 --> 00:16:37,720 Speaker 5: voted it down, then they'd had three losses. But for 316 00:16:37,760 --> 00:16:40,120 Speaker 5: some reason, he allowed himself to get suckered into this 317 00:16:40,160 --> 00:16:43,600 Speaker 5: big beautiful bill deal, and it's just gonna blow up 318 00:16:43,640 --> 00:16:44,200 Speaker 5: in our face. 319 00:16:45,400 --> 00:16:47,880 Speaker 1: Thanks for calling in. Sim I think Trump knows what's 320 00:16:47,880 --> 00:16:49,840 Speaker 1: going on here. I don't think he's being suckered in 321 00:16:49,880 --> 00:16:53,480 Speaker 1: my sense is that Trump feels that the only way 322 00:16:53,520 --> 00:16:56,560 Speaker 1: he can get the really good things in there, this 323 00:16:56,640 --> 00:16:58,720 Speaker 1: is the art of the possible, which I know for 324 00:16:58,760 --> 00:17:00,520 Speaker 1: a lot of people, you hear that in politics and 325 00:17:00,600 --> 00:17:03,080 Speaker 1: it's kind of induces a bit of a cringe. But 326 00:17:03,120 --> 00:17:05,960 Speaker 1: the art of the possible, because there are some Republican 327 00:17:06,000 --> 00:17:08,600 Speaker 1: members who just wouldn't I'm talking about that in the 328 00:17:08,640 --> 00:17:11,920 Speaker 1: House and the Senate. They just won't do it. They 329 00:17:11,960 --> 00:17:14,040 Speaker 1: won't do it unless they unless you have some of 330 00:17:14,080 --> 00:17:15,879 Speaker 1: the stuff in there. That's what Trump was saying that 331 00:17:15,960 --> 00:17:17,639 Speaker 1: in the press conference. If people can take that or 332 00:17:17,680 --> 00:17:21,119 Speaker 1: leave it. But I do think it's it's quite clear 333 00:17:21,200 --> 00:17:25,080 Speaker 1: that the we have not seen the cuts that we 334 00:17:25,160 --> 00:17:28,000 Speaker 1: want to see yet to even on the Doge side 335 00:17:28,000 --> 00:17:29,840 Speaker 1: of things. I mean, that's admitted, right. Okay, So if 336 00:17:29,840 --> 00:17:33,040 Speaker 1: we need a recisions package, where's the recisions package? 337 00:17:33,680 --> 00:17:33,840 Speaker 7: Now? 338 00:17:33,880 --> 00:17:36,680 Speaker 1: Maybe it's gonna show up at some time sometime soon. 339 00:17:37,320 --> 00:17:40,080 Speaker 1: But yeah, we've got let me see, you've got the 340 00:17:40,160 --> 00:17:43,560 Speaker 1: five week recess starts in August. There's a week long 341 00:17:43,640 --> 00:17:47,280 Speaker 1: recess in Congress. Think a lot of days, a lot 342 00:17:47,280 --> 00:17:49,840 Speaker 1: of days off. It's not a bad gig. 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I'm pretty well versed in that, as you 368 00:19:21,600 --> 00:19:22,520 Speaker 7: will know, Bud. 369 00:19:22,720 --> 00:19:25,400 Speaker 1: Well, you know somehow. You know Clay's not here to 370 00:19:25,440 --> 00:19:28,919 Speaker 1: explain themself on this one. But of the two college 371 00:19:28,960 --> 00:19:33,160 Speaker 1: football games that I have ever gone to see, two 372 00:19:33,200 --> 00:19:35,320 Speaker 1: of them both had Alabama in them. I am just 373 00:19:35,359 --> 00:19:37,199 Speaker 1: saying that that is the thing that happens. So you 374 00:19:37,200 --> 00:19:38,480 Speaker 1: have to take that up. You have to take that 375 00:19:38,600 --> 00:19:43,600 Speaker 1: up with Clay. So let's dive into to First of all, 376 00:19:43,600 --> 00:19:45,399 Speaker 1: I know you're running for governor, which is very exciting. 377 00:19:45,440 --> 00:19:48,359 Speaker 1: I want to talk to you about that. But tell 378 00:19:48,400 --> 00:19:53,320 Speaker 1: me this the Senate package or the Senate part of 379 00:19:53,440 --> 00:19:56,560 Speaker 1: the big beautiful bill. What are your feelings on this 380 00:19:56,640 --> 00:19:59,320 Speaker 1: because there are people who are It's one thing when 381 00:19:59,320 --> 00:20:01,720 Speaker 1: the people who don't like Trump don't like something Trump does, 382 00:20:02,080 --> 00:20:03,720 Speaker 1: they don't like anything he does. Right as he said 383 00:20:03,760 --> 00:20:05,280 Speaker 1: he could cure cancer, that all of a sudden they'd 384 00:20:05,280 --> 00:20:07,680 Speaker 1: be pro cancer but there are people who are very 385 00:20:07,720 --> 00:20:09,960 Speaker 1: pro Trump, including on the Senate side, who were saying, 386 00:20:10,000 --> 00:20:14,040 Speaker 1: you know what this is, this is something that should 387 00:20:14,080 --> 00:20:18,720 Speaker 1: be let's say, tinkered with a little bit on the 388 00:20:18,840 --> 00:20:19,760 Speaker 1: cutting side. 389 00:20:19,800 --> 00:20:22,880 Speaker 7: What do you say, yeah, one hundred percent, it's gonna 390 00:20:22,920 --> 00:20:26,440 Speaker 7: be some adjustments. It never was gonna happen to where 391 00:20:27,359 --> 00:20:29,399 Speaker 7: the House did their version. They sent it over and 392 00:20:29,400 --> 00:20:32,440 Speaker 7: we were just gonna rubber stamp it. That's not gonna happen. 393 00:20:32,480 --> 00:20:34,120 Speaker 7: First of all, we have what we call the Bird 394 00:20:34,160 --> 00:20:37,480 Speaker 7: rule and has go the Parliamentarian anything that comes into 395 00:20:37,480 --> 00:20:40,960 Speaker 7: this package, and some of it probably won't pass up 396 00:20:41,040 --> 00:20:45,520 Speaker 7: through the Bird rule, and any changes, if there's one change. 397 00:20:45,240 --> 00:20:46,560 Speaker 2: At all, has to go back to the House. 398 00:20:47,119 --> 00:20:50,480 Speaker 7: Uh. There's several things that other people are very concerned about. 399 00:20:50,680 --> 00:20:53,119 Speaker 7: One that I'm concerned about is we did not do 400 00:20:53,240 --> 00:20:56,680 Speaker 7: away with to me enough of the Green New Deal 401 00:20:58,160 --> 00:21:01,480 Speaker 7: giveaways through their Inflace Reduction Act. That line of the world. 402 00:21:01,560 --> 00:21:05,920 Speaker 7: Would we continue to give money away when we shouldn't. Again, 403 00:21:06,000 --> 00:21:08,200 Speaker 7: that has they'll probably have to be adjusted in some 404 00:21:08,280 --> 00:21:09,040 Speaker 7: form or fashion. 405 00:21:09,880 --> 00:21:12,040 Speaker 1: What what is in there on that on that specific 406 00:21:12,040 --> 00:21:13,640 Speaker 1: because I've seen the people say the Green New Deal 407 00:21:13,680 --> 00:21:16,679 Speaker 1: giveaway is it just a lot of money that the 408 00:21:16,720 --> 00:21:19,399 Speaker 1: Democrats set up in the covid era that goes to 409 00:21:20,040 --> 00:21:23,280 Speaker 1: wind farms or well what what what is the giveaway 410 00:21:23,280 --> 00:21:24,240 Speaker 1: part of it? 411 00:21:24,359 --> 00:21:24,840 Speaker 2: Exactly? 412 00:21:25,000 --> 00:21:32,800 Speaker 7: Solar farms subsidies, rebates, same thing with wind farms rebates. 413 00:21:33,520 --> 00:21:39,000 Speaker 7: Also with EV cars rebates, and you know any other 414 00:21:39,040 --> 00:21:41,520 Speaker 7: car we all and I don't have an electric car. 415 00:21:41,560 --> 00:21:45,240 Speaker 7: I paid full price and as so do many many, 416 00:21:45,280 --> 00:21:48,720 Speaker 7: many other people in this country will continue to push 417 00:21:48,760 --> 00:21:50,440 Speaker 7: the EV car. And now I'm fine with EV car, 418 00:21:50,800 --> 00:21:52,639 Speaker 7: but at the end of the day, we're gonna have 419 00:21:52,640 --> 00:21:54,640 Speaker 7: to get on the same page with this, along with 420 00:21:54,680 --> 00:21:59,760 Speaker 7: the gas burning cars and if you want whatever, whichever 421 00:21:59,800 --> 00:22:02,280 Speaker 7: one we won't find. But the government shouldn't have to 422 00:22:02,320 --> 00:22:05,520 Speaker 7: pay any of that. So there should be an adjustment 423 00:22:05,560 --> 00:22:08,760 Speaker 7: to that. There'll probably be some more adjustments, probably Medicaid, Medicare. 424 00:22:09,760 --> 00:22:12,480 Speaker 7: I'm not for any cuts, but I am for reform. 425 00:22:12,920 --> 00:22:16,680 Speaker 7: Is there enough reform in there? Are the work requirements 426 00:22:17,119 --> 00:22:21,639 Speaker 7: as they've got it structured as we speak for medicaid 427 00:22:22,160 --> 00:22:26,320 Speaker 7: work requirements, which I think everybody's for everybody is Republican. 428 00:22:26,720 --> 00:22:30,560 Speaker 7: The problem is the work requirements don't start for about 429 00:22:30,560 --> 00:22:33,439 Speaker 7: three or four years. What are we waiting for. I mean, 430 00:22:33,480 --> 00:22:35,080 Speaker 7: we've got to get it done and get it over 431 00:22:35,119 --> 00:22:37,680 Speaker 7: with and get people back to work and get people 432 00:22:37,760 --> 00:22:42,879 Speaker 7: in a situation where where we can cut back on 433 00:22:42,960 --> 00:22:45,640 Speaker 7: the money that's spent the people that shouldn't be getting. 434 00:22:45,320 --> 00:22:46,800 Speaker 2: On medicaid and medicare. 435 00:22:46,880 --> 00:22:49,360 Speaker 7: So at the end of the day, we'll look at 436 00:22:49,359 --> 00:22:52,680 Speaker 7: it starting on Monday, we'll go through it line by line, 437 00:22:53,240 --> 00:22:55,479 Speaker 7: try to make it the best we possibly can. We 438 00:22:55,520 --> 00:22:58,600 Speaker 7: want President Trump to have his bill, have it done soon, 439 00:22:58,880 --> 00:23:01,280 Speaker 7: But that's a problem when we put everything in one bill. 440 00:23:02,119 --> 00:23:04,879 Speaker 7: If we'd done two separate bills, it would have been 441 00:23:04,920 --> 00:23:06,879 Speaker 7: a lot different. We could have done the tax version, 442 00:23:06,960 --> 00:23:08,960 Speaker 7: got it out of the way already, and then we 443 00:23:08,960 --> 00:23:11,560 Speaker 7: could have done everything else at this point and would 444 00:23:11,600 --> 00:23:11,960 Speaker 7: have been. 445 00:23:11,960 --> 00:23:13,600 Speaker 2: Less of a problem. 446 00:23:13,600 --> 00:23:16,480 Speaker 7: But when you put it all together, we all knew 447 00:23:16,520 --> 00:23:18,320 Speaker 7: it was going to be this situation. 448 00:23:18,480 --> 00:23:20,200 Speaker 2: But eventually it will get done. 449 00:23:21,520 --> 00:23:25,560 Speaker 1: It will get done. That's certainly good news. Why do 450 00:23:25,640 --> 00:23:27,840 Speaker 1: you think they didn't do the two bills? Is this 451 00:23:28,000 --> 00:23:31,320 Speaker 1: just all because of the super narrow margin on the 452 00:23:31,359 --> 00:23:35,639 Speaker 1: House side, in particular, that there was no leeway to 453 00:23:35,760 --> 00:23:38,679 Speaker 1: change some of the structure here. Because I can understand 454 00:23:38,760 --> 00:23:41,000 Speaker 1: given all the political capital the Trump has, and that 455 00:23:41,040 --> 00:23:45,600 Speaker 1: there's a Democrat opposition that feels like it's barely even 456 00:23:46,600 --> 00:23:49,360 Speaker 1: relevant in the conversation these days. I know they still 457 00:23:49,359 --> 00:23:50,399 Speaker 1: have a lot of votes. I know there are a 458 00:23:50,400 --> 00:23:54,160 Speaker 1: lot of Democrats out there, but they're not finding effective 459 00:23:54,160 --> 00:23:57,320 Speaker 1: ways to oppose the Trump agenda. I feel like there's 460 00:23:57,680 --> 00:24:00,520 Speaker 1: a bit of concern that this is the best moment, 461 00:24:00,680 --> 00:24:03,320 Speaker 1: and this moment isn't being used to it's fullest to 462 00:24:03,320 --> 00:24:05,119 Speaker 1: put us on sound fiscal footing. 463 00:24:05,960 --> 00:24:07,960 Speaker 7: Yeah, first of all, the Democrats are trying to block 464 00:24:08,000 --> 00:24:11,440 Speaker 7: everything that we're doing, trying to slow anything they possibly 465 00:24:11,480 --> 00:24:14,680 Speaker 7: can down and toward in terms of nominations or any 466 00:24:14,720 --> 00:24:18,040 Speaker 7: kind of bill like this. They're trying to throw a 467 00:24:18,119 --> 00:24:20,359 Speaker 7: kink into the wheel, try to put a nail in 468 00:24:20,480 --> 00:24:22,800 Speaker 7: the tire and slow us all down. But the end 469 00:24:22,840 --> 00:24:24,520 Speaker 7: of the day, if you look at it, the people 470 00:24:24,560 --> 00:24:26,719 Speaker 7: that actually the ones are supposed to be thrown up 471 00:24:26,720 --> 00:24:29,400 Speaker 7: the budget is the House. The House is a very 472 00:24:29,400 --> 00:24:33,479 Speaker 7: slim margin. They're the one that marketed this to President Trump. 473 00:24:33,880 --> 00:24:36,080 Speaker 7: This is how we want to do it. This is 474 00:24:36,560 --> 00:24:39,960 Speaker 7: the process of which we can get it through the House. 475 00:24:40,400 --> 00:24:42,760 Speaker 7: And then the Senate has a few more votes to 476 00:24:42,800 --> 00:24:45,840 Speaker 7: where they can work with I understand that. But by 477 00:24:45,880 --> 00:24:48,520 Speaker 7: doing that, this thing is maybe the biggest bill in 478 00:24:48,560 --> 00:24:51,760 Speaker 7: the history of bills, and so it's got more things 479 00:24:51,800 --> 00:24:54,479 Speaker 7: in there, more moving parts, and so it just takes longer. 480 00:24:54,960 --> 00:24:57,120 Speaker 7: But again, we're going to get this done for the president. 481 00:24:57,200 --> 00:25:00,160 Speaker 7: He needs it, he deserves it, He's worked at it. 482 00:25:01,000 --> 00:25:05,560 Speaker 7: The House may have to take it back and readjust 483 00:25:05,640 --> 00:25:08,399 Speaker 7: some things after we'd finish it with it, and the 484 00:25:08,400 --> 00:25:12,520 Speaker 7: bird rule the parliamentarian so it doesn't cut enough money. 485 00:25:12,720 --> 00:25:14,679 Speaker 7: At the end of the day, President Trump knows that 486 00:25:15,119 --> 00:25:17,080 Speaker 7: one point five tree which is only one hundred and 487 00:25:17,080 --> 00:25:18,040 Speaker 7: fifty b in a year. 488 00:25:17,880 --> 00:25:19,600 Speaker 2: For ten years. This is a ten year bill. 489 00:25:20,040 --> 00:25:24,080 Speaker 7: It's he's even said this, We've got to cut back 490 00:25:24,119 --> 00:25:26,600 Speaker 7: on spending and we've got to grow the country. He's 491 00:25:26,600 --> 00:25:29,320 Speaker 7: going to grow the country by tariffing people all over 492 00:25:29,320 --> 00:25:32,840 Speaker 7: the world to get manufacturing back. I get a visitor 493 00:25:32,840 --> 00:25:34,960 Speaker 7: two a week in my office in d C about 494 00:25:35,560 --> 00:25:38,720 Speaker 7: manufacturing companies want to come back to the state of Alabama, 495 00:25:38,760 --> 00:25:41,080 Speaker 7: which is great. But the end of the day, we 496 00:25:41,280 --> 00:25:44,840 Speaker 7: have to cut back on this enormous spending. Two treeion 497 00:25:44,880 --> 00:25:47,560 Speaker 7: dollars more a year than what the American taxpayer send in. 498 00:25:48,160 --> 00:25:52,520 Speaker 7: We can't physically put two and two together make any 499 00:25:52,560 --> 00:25:55,280 Speaker 7: of this work unless we cut back a little bit 500 00:25:55,320 --> 00:25:58,480 Speaker 7: more of what the Republicans have in there now in 501 00:25:58,600 --> 00:26:00,680 Speaker 7: terms of the bill coming from the House. 502 00:26:01,720 --> 00:26:06,960 Speaker 1: Speaking to Senator Tommy Tubberville and Senator you announced yesterday 503 00:26:07,680 --> 00:26:10,919 Speaker 1: on my friend Will Caine's show that you were running 504 00:26:10,960 --> 00:26:15,639 Speaker 1: for governor in the great state of Alabama. What's leading 505 00:26:15,680 --> 00:26:20,640 Speaker 1: to that transition in your political future? And also let's 506 00:26:20,640 --> 00:26:23,879 Speaker 1: get into some of what I think of Alabama, Like, 507 00:26:24,000 --> 00:26:25,879 Speaker 1: you don't have the problems in Alabama that they do 508 00:26:26,000 --> 00:26:29,280 Speaker 1: in places like California when it comes to Democrats being 509 00:26:29,280 --> 00:26:31,199 Speaker 1: in charge, right, So I'd be very curious on what 510 00:26:31,200 --> 00:26:33,600 Speaker 1: the agenda is that you would want to pursue as 511 00:26:33,600 --> 00:26:34,120 Speaker 1: the governor. 512 00:26:34,920 --> 00:26:38,919 Speaker 7: Yeah, Alabama is a huge Donald Trump state and I 513 00:26:39,080 --> 00:26:43,280 Speaker 7: ran I was going to run for governor seventy nine 514 00:26:43,359 --> 00:26:47,280 Speaker 7: years ago when President Trump first got in, but. 515 00:26:47,200 --> 00:26:50,359 Speaker 2: We had a. 516 00:26:49,400 --> 00:26:51,520 Speaker 7: Governor Ivy had just gone in. I said, now, I'm 517 00:26:51,520 --> 00:26:53,760 Speaker 7: not going to do that, and President Trump encouraged me 518 00:26:53,800 --> 00:26:56,920 Speaker 7: to run for the Senate and I did and we 519 00:26:56,960 --> 00:26:59,720 Speaker 7: won pretty hand lee on the backs of President Trump, 520 00:26:59,800 --> 00:27:03,520 Speaker 7: and we've been up and it's probably good. I've learned 521 00:27:03,520 --> 00:27:04,959 Speaker 7: a lot, I've met a lot of people. It's all 522 00:27:05,000 --> 00:27:07,640 Speaker 7: about contacts. It's like coaching, the same thing coaching, it's 523 00:27:07,640 --> 00:27:10,959 Speaker 7: all about contacts and knowing people. Same thing in politics. 524 00:27:12,080 --> 00:27:16,239 Speaker 7: Then President Trump in his agenda, he is pushing and 525 00:27:16,359 --> 00:27:19,800 Speaker 7: changing things in d C and moving more money and 526 00:27:19,880 --> 00:27:23,119 Speaker 7: power back to the states. Now I'll be with President 527 00:27:23,160 --> 00:27:26,880 Speaker 7: Trump another year and a half, and after that point, 528 00:27:27,359 --> 00:27:29,680 Speaker 7: hopefully I can win this governorship where I can move 529 00:27:29,720 --> 00:27:32,280 Speaker 7: into the governor's role here in the state of Alabama 530 00:27:32,359 --> 00:27:33,919 Speaker 7: and take that power in the money that he's going 531 00:27:34,000 --> 00:27:36,920 Speaker 7: to send back to the states to help make Alabama 532 00:27:37,880 --> 00:27:40,080 Speaker 7: a better place to live, a better place to work, 533 00:27:40,440 --> 00:27:43,320 Speaker 7: and a better place to raise a family. So I 534 00:27:43,359 --> 00:27:48,080 Speaker 7: think it's all working out perfectly time wise. But again, 535 00:27:48,119 --> 00:27:49,720 Speaker 7: we've got a lot of work to do, and I'll 536 00:27:49,760 --> 00:27:53,119 Speaker 7: spend ninety percent of my time in DC working towards 537 00:27:53,200 --> 00:27:55,359 Speaker 7: President Trump's agenda for the next year and a half. 538 00:27:55,560 --> 00:27:58,320 Speaker 7: After that point, we will really know the structure of 539 00:27:58,359 --> 00:28:00,119 Speaker 7: what he's going to be able to get done with 540 00:28:00,200 --> 00:28:03,560 Speaker 7: this this Congress, and hopefully we can we can maintain 541 00:28:03,640 --> 00:28:06,560 Speaker 7: the House and the Senate along with the White House 542 00:28:06,920 --> 00:28:10,680 Speaker 7: in the next Congress, So uh, I'm looking forward to it. 543 00:28:10,680 --> 00:28:12,760 Speaker 7: It's it'd be a challenge. I'll have to worry. I 544 00:28:12,760 --> 00:28:16,120 Speaker 7: don't mind campaigning, I really like it. But we need 545 00:28:16,160 --> 00:28:18,120 Speaker 7: to continue the same values. 546 00:28:17,680 --> 00:28:20,879 Speaker 2: In education and. 547 00:28:20,119 --> 00:28:25,040 Speaker 7: And immigration and law abiding citizens as what President Trump 548 00:28:25,119 --> 00:28:26,640 Speaker 7: is trying to push all over the country. 549 00:28:27,560 --> 00:28:30,639 Speaker 1: Senator Tuberville. The team has pointed out that it is 550 00:28:30,680 --> 00:28:33,600 Speaker 1: only right, It is only fair that I tell Clay 551 00:28:33,680 --> 00:28:35,920 Speaker 1: this time, if I join him on the road during 552 00:28:35,960 --> 00:28:41,120 Speaker 1: football season, that I go see the illustrious Auburn Tigers. 553 00:28:41,720 --> 00:28:44,280 Speaker 1: Is what is the best should Should I go see 554 00:28:44,320 --> 00:28:47,320 Speaker 1: Auburn against Alabama? That would mean I'm three for three 555 00:28:47,360 --> 00:28:49,880 Speaker 1: at Alabama games. But we know the Auburn Tigers will 556 00:28:49,920 --> 00:28:52,800 Speaker 1: of course emerge h emerge victorious in that? Is that 557 00:28:52,880 --> 00:28:54,640 Speaker 1: the best game? Because I could pretty much go to 558 00:28:54,680 --> 00:28:55,080 Speaker 1: any game. 559 00:28:55,720 --> 00:28:57,640 Speaker 7: Well, it's one of the best games in the country 560 00:28:57,640 --> 00:28:59,640 Speaker 7: all year long. I don't care whether college or high 561 00:28:59,640 --> 00:29:01,560 Speaker 7: school or NFL is the is. 562 00:29:01,520 --> 00:29:02,200 Speaker 2: The Iron Bowl? 563 00:29:03,080 --> 00:29:05,880 Speaker 7: As much going on around the stadium and before the game, 564 00:29:05,960 --> 00:29:09,000 Speaker 7: then what happens during the game. And there's so much 565 00:29:09,080 --> 00:29:12,040 Speaker 7: riding on it for in state rival but you know, 566 00:29:12,080 --> 00:29:15,360 Speaker 7: we have l s U and and other teams that 567 00:29:15,600 --> 00:29:19,680 Speaker 7: come to Auburn, but you can't miss any SEC game 568 00:29:20,560 --> 00:29:23,240 Speaker 7: across the South is always great to watch. I've been 569 00:29:23,240 --> 00:29:25,400 Speaker 7: involved in many of them when I was at Ole Miss, 570 00:29:25,440 --> 00:29:27,840 Speaker 7: and same same at Auburn. I've been a lot of 571 00:29:27,880 --> 00:29:29,960 Speaker 7: Alabama games in the last few years. I went with 572 00:29:30,040 --> 00:29:33,440 Speaker 7: President Trump a couple of times. Uh. They're all fun. 573 00:29:33,600 --> 00:29:37,320 Speaker 7: And that's the reason that I'm really fighting hard to 574 00:29:37,400 --> 00:29:40,120 Speaker 7: try to solve this NIL problem because the thing that 575 00:29:40,240 --> 00:29:43,640 Speaker 7: makes college football great, especially in the SEC, is the 576 00:29:43,720 --> 00:29:46,840 Speaker 7: fan base and the enthusiasm, and we do not want 577 00:29:46,880 --> 00:29:50,400 Speaker 7: to lose that when it comes to college sports, and 578 00:29:51,040 --> 00:29:54,400 Speaker 7: NIL has an opportunity to upset that apple cart. 579 00:29:54,440 --> 00:29:56,320 Speaker 2: If we don't get some answers to it. 580 00:29:57,320 --> 00:29:59,880 Speaker 1: How do you fix that? The name and likeness is 581 00:30:00,400 --> 00:30:01,080 Speaker 1: how do you fix that? 582 00:30:01,920 --> 00:30:04,560 Speaker 7: Well, Moneys Moneys is the cats out of the bag. 583 00:30:04,640 --> 00:30:06,920 Speaker 7: I don't mind kids making money, but we got we 584 00:30:07,000 --> 00:30:09,720 Speaker 7: got to have some structure. There's no structure to contracts. 585 00:30:10,280 --> 00:30:14,320 Speaker 7: There's no structure. You cannot allow men or women to 586 00:30:14,360 --> 00:30:18,480 Speaker 7: transfer every year for twenty five one hundred thousand dollars 587 00:30:18,560 --> 00:30:21,640 Speaker 7: just because of money. It's about education. And again, if 588 00:30:21,640 --> 00:30:23,840 Speaker 7: you come to a place and you come from money, fine, 589 00:30:24,320 --> 00:30:26,840 Speaker 7: but you've got to work towards an education and you 590 00:30:26,920 --> 00:30:29,800 Speaker 7: can't every year shop yourself around for more money. That's 591 00:30:29,840 --> 00:30:33,560 Speaker 7: not what this should be all about. And again, players 592 00:30:33,600 --> 00:30:37,320 Speaker 7: should make money. There should be revenue sharing. Ncuba dropped 593 00:30:37,320 --> 00:30:39,560 Speaker 7: the ball on that. But at the end of the day, 594 00:30:40,040 --> 00:30:43,200 Speaker 7: we have got to put some slid validity to this 595 00:30:43,560 --> 00:30:47,040 Speaker 7: because there's going to be donor fatigue coming up because 596 00:30:47,040 --> 00:30:49,840 Speaker 7: if we can't, how these schools are spending twenty thirty 597 00:30:49,920 --> 00:30:53,440 Speaker 7: forty million dollars a year on their teams and that's 598 00:30:53,440 --> 00:30:55,880 Speaker 7: not going to last. 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So we're gonna hang out, We're gonna 638 00:32:55,760 --> 00:32:56,880 Speaker 1: do some great shows. We want to get a lot 639 00:32:56,920 --> 00:32:58,320 Speaker 1: of calls, a lot of talkbacks from all of you. 640 00:32:58,560 --> 00:33:02,440 Speaker 1: The interaction, the contributions you all make to this program 641 00:33:02,440 --> 00:33:04,600 Speaker 1: every day are invaluable. Make it more fun for me, 642 00:33:04,720 --> 00:33:08,400 Speaker 1: make it more fun for Clay. Uh and yeah, let's 643 00:33:08,400 --> 00:33:10,480 Speaker 1: do that. Let's get some of your calls now. Lines 644 00:33:10,640 --> 00:33:14,360 Speaker 1: lit Paul in West Virginia. What's going on, Paul? 645 00:33:15,720 --> 00:33:17,760 Speaker 6: Well, Hey, first of all, I'm glad you're getting better, 646 00:33:17,840 --> 00:33:20,480 Speaker 6: and thank you guys. You're doing an awesome job, doing 647 00:33:20,520 --> 00:33:24,920 Speaker 6: an awesome job on the big beautiful bill. The Senator 648 00:33:24,960 --> 00:33:30,200 Speaker 6: mentioned it twice that it's a parliamentarian thing, and people 649 00:33:30,520 --> 00:33:33,000 Speaker 6: don't their eyes glaze over when you start talking about 650 00:33:33,000 --> 00:33:37,800 Speaker 6: that stuff. Everything everybody wants they can't have to include 651 00:33:37,920 --> 00:33:41,760 Speaker 6: Elon Musk. He even made that mistake. They can't put 652 00:33:41,760 --> 00:33:44,640 Speaker 6: that stuff in this bill because if they do, they'll 653 00:33:44,680 --> 00:33:46,800 Speaker 6: need to get sixty votes in the Senate instead of 654 00:33:46,880 --> 00:33:47,440 Speaker 6: just fifty. 655 00:33:49,040 --> 00:33:49,440 Speaker 2: Yeah, I know. 656 00:33:49,720 --> 00:33:51,640 Speaker 1: This is what Trump is saying, is like, this is 657 00:33:51,680 --> 00:33:53,360 Speaker 1: the best we could do with the Congress we have. 658 00:33:53,480 --> 00:33:56,240 Speaker 1: You know, I remember, thank you for calling in, Paul. 659 00:33:56,440 --> 00:33:58,280 Speaker 1: Remember that old you know, I like this quote, the 660 00:33:58,320 --> 00:34:01,959 Speaker 1: old Rumsfeld to war with the army you have. And 661 00:34:02,000 --> 00:34:04,160 Speaker 1: people got to try to make that into a big scandal. 662 00:34:04,640 --> 00:34:07,120 Speaker 1: First of all, he was talking, you know, whatever you 663 00:34:07,160 --> 00:34:10,000 Speaker 1: think about Rumsfield. He was saying a whole bunch of things. 664 00:34:10,440 --> 00:34:12,360 Speaker 1: And then that was one line in a much bigger 665 00:34:12,360 --> 00:34:13,879 Speaker 1: context of we're trying to you know, trying to get 666 00:34:13,880 --> 00:34:15,879 Speaker 1: this upgraded and move on that and do these other things. 667 00:34:16,560 --> 00:34:17,719 Speaker 1: But it is true you go to war with the 668 00:34:17,800 --> 00:34:20,600 Speaker 1: army you have. I mean that is there's no other 669 00:34:20,640 --> 00:34:22,279 Speaker 1: way to go to war, Like there's no other army. 670 00:34:22,600 --> 00:34:27,840 Speaker 1: So I think you go to pass a law with 671 00:34:27,880 --> 00:34:30,080 Speaker 1: the Congress you have. You try to get a bill 672 00:34:30,120 --> 00:34:31,759 Speaker 1: pass with the Congress you have, and if they're not 673 00:34:31,840 --> 00:34:35,640 Speaker 1: willing to budge on these issues, I mean, then you 674 00:34:35,719 --> 00:34:38,920 Speaker 1: just get into do you want to have everything just 675 00:34:39,080 --> 00:34:42,080 Speaker 1: not get done because you know you're letting the perfect. 676 00:34:41,680 --> 00:34:42,600 Speaker 2: To the enemy of the good. 677 00:34:43,400 --> 00:34:47,960 Speaker 1: Uh Ben in Eliza Ohio? Is that what you say it? 678 00:34:48,000 --> 00:34:48,160 Speaker 2: Ben? 679 00:34:52,040 --> 00:34:53,520 Speaker 1: Light UPO. 680 00:34:54,280 --> 00:34:57,359 Speaker 4: Yeah, Bega did a long time listener, very long time 681 00:34:57,440 --> 00:35:02,040 Speaker 4: listener to the e IP network the beginning of the Yeah, 682 00:35:02,040 --> 00:35:04,560 Speaker 4: at the beginning of the last hour. Here you were 683 00:35:04,560 --> 00:35:08,320 Speaker 4: talking about what other people understand or believe that animals 684 00:35:08,400 --> 00:35:11,200 Speaker 4: or dogs know that you're sick. And a quick story 685 00:35:11,239 --> 00:35:15,279 Speaker 4: back in twenty and eighteen, prior to my wife's diagnosis 686 00:35:15,280 --> 00:35:18,840 Speaker 4: with breast cancer, we had a carrier. He is a 687 00:35:18,880 --> 00:35:23,520 Speaker 4: part fox Arry, part tact Russell carrier that every time 688 00:35:23,560 --> 00:35:25,680 Speaker 4: he'd get near he would work his way up to 689 00:35:25,800 --> 00:35:29,160 Speaker 4: her left side of her chest every single time, and 690 00:35:29,320 --> 00:35:32,319 Speaker 4: it actually got to the point it was annoying her. 691 00:35:32,960 --> 00:35:35,320 Speaker 4: But a few short weeks later she found a lump, 692 00:35:35,880 --> 00:35:39,440 Speaker 4: was diagnosed with breast cancer. And she's doing wonderful. She 693 00:35:39,520 --> 00:35:41,600 Speaker 4: went through all the treatment. She's doing great, past of 694 00:35:41,680 --> 00:35:44,560 Speaker 4: five years, healthy as to be sassy as ever. It's 695 00:35:44,600 --> 00:35:47,320 Speaker 4: the way we want her. But to go back to 696 00:35:47,120 --> 00:35:49,880 Speaker 4: the thought about our animals, we need to pay attention 697 00:35:49,960 --> 00:35:52,440 Speaker 4: to them. They know these things and they're telling us 698 00:35:52,520 --> 00:35:55,760 Speaker 4: we could have got a pretty good jump start on treatment, 699 00:35:55,800 --> 00:35:57,400 Speaker 4: and maybe the treatments wouldn't have had to have been 700 00:35:57,480 --> 00:36:00,200 Speaker 4: so bad if we would have paid attention to that. Oh, 701 00:36:00,320 --> 00:36:02,799 Speaker 4: that was telling us something will draw well. 702 00:36:02,800 --> 00:36:04,680 Speaker 1: Ben, I'm I'm glad. You're glad to hear your wife 703 00:36:04,800 --> 00:36:08,239 Speaker 1: is doing doing really well and also that you really 704 00:36:08,280 --> 00:36:12,040 Speaker 1: appreciate your your pooch, your dog. Uh, They're They're incredible. 705 00:36:12,360 --> 00:36:14,760 Speaker 1: I think they're like furry little angels. I think dogs 706 00:36:14,760 --> 00:36:17,520 Speaker 1: are the best. And you know, when you're sick, man, 707 00:36:18,040 --> 00:36:20,080 Speaker 1: they really they can really come through for you. You know, 708 00:36:20,120 --> 00:36:22,280 Speaker 1: when you're sick and your dog is being your buddy 709 00:36:22,600 --> 00:36:24,359 Speaker 1: when you really need it, when you're really sick too. 710 00:36:24,360 --> 00:36:26,759 Speaker 1: I mean I've been for a couple of days. I 711 00:36:26,800 --> 00:36:31,640 Speaker 1: really appreciated the dog. So yeah, Wow, Tomorrow Stursday, we're 712 00:36:31,640 --> 00:36:34,719 Speaker 1: gonna have an awesome show, a big, beautiful show here 713 00:36:34,760 --> 00:36:36,600 Speaker 1: on the Clay and Buck Network. It's gonna be fun, 714 00:36:36,600 --> 00:36:38,359 Speaker 1: it's gonna be amazing. Some people are going to say 715 00:36:38,360 --> 00:36:41,279 Speaker 1: the best shows ever are always Clay and Buck