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Speaker 1: Late fifteen to ten touchdown. Such what's up, guys, Welcome

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Speaker 1: into a brand new episode of Chargers Weekly. We are

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Speaker 1: presented by SPLITTERO as always, joined by the voice of

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Speaker 1: the Chargers, Matt Muney Smith. The Chargers headed to duvall

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Speaker 1: on Sunday but four and O now on primetime they

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Speaker 1: beat the Steelers twenty five to ten, improved to seven

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Speaker 1: and three, six and one in the AFC, and money

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Speaker 1: four to oh in primetime.

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Speaker 2: Number one, it would have been professional to me to

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Speaker 2: take that sip of water before we hit the air,

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Speaker 2: but that's just kind of the way I operate. It's okay,

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Speaker 2: number two, I believe you mispronounced duvall IV. There you go.

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Speaker 2: That is where we are headed, and it's a big one.

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Speaker 2: Obviously we're gonna preview it and get into it, but

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Speaker 2: I think I'll open with this by giving credit where

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Speaker 2: it is due. Aaron Schatz, who you should follow on

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Speaker 2: all social media channels, says this game is the highest

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Speaker 2: combine leverage playoff odds we have seen this year. Jaguars

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Speaker 2: fifty seven percent with a win, nineteen percent making the

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Speaker 2: playoffs with a loss. Chargers a win puts them at

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Speaker 2: ninety one percent versus fifty eight percent with a loss,

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Speaker 2: you're talking about a thirty almost thirty five percent spread

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Speaker 2: from win to loss for the Chargers, essentially punching your

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Speaker 2: ticket versus ooh, that's a tiebreaker. Got some work to do,

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Speaker 2: a little bit of a tough schedule ahead of them.

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Speaker 2: So same thing we said against the Steelers, right like,

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Speaker 2: it felt like a playoff game with the tiebreaker implications,

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Speaker 2: and they came out and throttled them, And hopefully we

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Speaker 2: see more of that on Sunday.

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Speaker 1: Everything's falling right as far as the AFC standings are concerned.

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Speaker 1: For the Chargers. You start the season three and zero.

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Speaker 1: You beat teams like the Steelers, you beat the Jags,

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Speaker 1: you proved to eight and three. Two of the three

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Speaker 1: losses have come in the NFC to teams who are

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Speaker 1: coincidentally not playing so well. One of them fired their

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Speaker 1: coach this week with the Giants. So Chargers are sitting

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Speaker 1: pretty And by the way, Denzel Perriman's gonna join us

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Speaker 1: in a little bit awesome interview with Denzil So glad

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Speaker 1: to have him back in the lineup and playing at

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Speaker 1: a high level. But Mady, let's just kind of rewind

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Speaker 1: a little bit talk about that game on Sunday. I

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Speaker 1: think Charger fans has just taken it in the last

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Speaker 1: four days. The defense has really been the story the

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Speaker 1: last three weeks, and they just throttled their rodgers.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean, and that's think about where we were,

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Speaker 2: you know, well I know where we were in this room,

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Speaker 2: but you know what we were talking about after the

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Speaker 2: loss to the Colts, where it was their third and

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Speaker 2: the Colts just seemingly got whatever they wanted whenever they wanted.

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Speaker 2: And you know, as we were doing that podcast in

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Speaker 2: this room downstairs, you had Khalil Mack in a press

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Speaker 2: conference essentially, you know, bringing out some lumber and saying,

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Speaker 2: this is how I'm going to operate, and neither of

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Speaker 2: these guys are gonna follow me, and they're gonna go

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Speaker 2: out there and they're going to be willing to sacrifice

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Speaker 2: everything on that field or I'll do it and they'll

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Speaker 2: have to drag me off the field. And from that

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Speaker 2: moment forward, his defense has just flipped a switch, you know,

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Speaker 2: and they've done it against a Vikings team that had

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Speaker 2: scored some points the week before. You know, obviously a

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Speaker 2: it was a Steelers team that had been operating pretty

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Speaker 2: I don't count that garbage time touchdown. So I think

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Speaker 2: that's sort of what we hear from from coach Harbaugh,

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Speaker 2: from other players about how important Khalil Mack is to

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Speaker 2: this team, that that's the guy that had to say it,

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Speaker 2: that's the guy that had to put it out there.

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Speaker 2: You saw what happened to his arm, you know, in

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Speaker 1: He says it, but he also says, I don't want

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Speaker 1: to say it. I want to show you, and he did.

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Speaker 1: He started with the safety on Aaron Rodgers and nine.

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Speaker 1: two sacks against the Titans. Tully we talk about him

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Speaker 2: Yeah, always been great. It's been a huge acquisition by

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Speaker 2: They acquire Oway, and like you said with Bud, now

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Speaker 2: And then go back to that game against Pittsburgh, Chris

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Speaker 2: And I feel like that's where we're at with this

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Speaker 1: We talk about the Russian cover working together and a

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Speaker 1: He gets a pick, but you know RJ Mickens back

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Speaker 2: Yeah, And I think you know, the way coach put

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Speaker 2: that if he makes a mistake, and we think about

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Speaker 2: that angle he took that first game after the trade Miami, right, yes,

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Speaker 2: that's really the only time I can remember saying, Okay, Ricky,

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Speaker 2: You know, he takes good angles, keeps the top on

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Speaker 2: Mickens has proven man, if he's in the area, he's

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Speaker 2: remember coach saying it last year about tar Heeed Still

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Speaker 2: You know that after about week five, you just kind

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Speaker 2: All the way up front and all the way in

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Speaker 2: The way he makes plays and how he takes on

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Speaker 2: and where these guys are at a Nico Reid with

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Speaker 2: the past with the PBu of the year, I was.

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Speaker 1: Gonna say I talked to Jamari in the locker after

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm not going to see I'm going to be professional.

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Speaker 2: The like the thing with that Nico pass breakup on

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Speaker 2: you know, why wasn't Nico drafted. One he's undersized a

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Speaker 2: It's a PI and it's a forty yard penalty, and

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Speaker 2: or it's a completion because you don't know where the

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Speaker 2: Austin's head start to turn, he turns that head and

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Speaker 2: he still got the burst to close and knock it down.

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Speaker 2: I mean, that's a that's a five year vet move

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Speaker 2: and it was. It was as impressive as is any

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Speaker 1: Yeah, shout out to Nico in the defense. He flipped

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Speaker 1: then five to three felt like a baseball score.

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Speaker 2: And then now it was Dodger Day. Tommy were in

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Speaker 1: Tommy was rocking his his Philip Rivers jersey, which was

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Speaker 1: pretty cool. But Justin and Company got it rolling justin

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Speaker 2: Yeah, he told us when he was here. I'm trying

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Speaker 2: I think so man, because he ain't on here anymore.

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Speaker 2: And I'd love to see more of that, you know,

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Speaker 2: Just the you know what do they call third down

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Speaker 1: He's fitting perfectly. And you know, the the chemistry that

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Speaker 1: we get to Denzel. They don't necessarily show up every week.

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Speaker 1: But like him was a blocker, him just being a pro,

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Speaker 1: it's been it's been cool to see him really contribute

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Speaker 1: and know that, hey, I may not get the ball,

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Speaker 1: but I am going to block and I'm going to

435
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Speaker 1: find a way to stay in the football game.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I think I don't think there's any question, you know,

437
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Speaker 2: whatever his role is this year, I would assume next

438
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Speaker 2: year it will be greatly increased because everything he touches

439
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Speaker 2: is great. And I don't think there's any and for

440
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Speaker 2: someone to not be a squeaky wheel about targets or

441
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Speaker 2: yards or receptions or touchdowns or all those things that

442
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Speaker 2: are gonna measure whether or not you have a successful

443
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Speaker 2: you know, freshman year, rookie season that I think it

444
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Speaker 2: just goes to show you what type of football player

445
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Speaker 2: he is, because look, you get drafted in the second round.

446
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Speaker 2: Lad was drafted in the second round last year. You know,

447
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Speaker 2: when you think about the numbers that he put up

448
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Speaker 2: and the numbers that Jalen Polk put up in the

449
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Speaker 2: second round, and you're like, oh, you're a bust, You're

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Speaker 2: a second round and I think you go through the

451
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Speaker 2: box score and that may be what you think. But

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Speaker 2: like you said, you know, the coaches, the front office,

453
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Speaker 2: his teammates know what a great season he's happened already.

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Speaker 2: And it won't surprise me if Trey Harris ends up

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Speaker 2: having a one hundred yard touchdown, you know, one hundred

456
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Speaker 2: and twenty yard two touchdown game, it will not surprise

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Speaker 2: me in the least. He has plenty good enough to

458
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Speaker 2: put up those kind of numbers already.

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Speaker 1: Weekly and Dens I have to say, Man, in the

470
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Speaker 1: last three weeks, you come back for the Colts game,

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Speaker 1: and then right after that Colts game, I don't think

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Speaker 1: this defense or I don't think any of defense in

473
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Speaker 1: the NFL's played as well as you guys.

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Speaker 3: I've been hearing that.

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Speaker 4: I've been hearing that I really haven't been paying attention,

476
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Speaker 4: you know to all of that stuff, but just hearing

477
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Speaker 4: you know, after the Coach game, you know, we kind

478
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Speaker 4: of turned it on and you know, really click, you

479
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Speaker 4: know as a unit.

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Speaker 2: Burst of the ball. It's kind of what we hear

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Speaker 2: a lot of it seems like it's something that really

482
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Speaker 2: fits your game. Just kind of take us through if

483
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Speaker 2: there are some pillars of the defense, sort of what

484
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Speaker 2: it is that you guys have to do to make

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Speaker 2: a foundation for what is success.

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Speaker 4: Uh yeah, so we the burst to the ball, that's BTV. Uh,

487
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Speaker 4: you know, that's something that we built, you know, in practice,

488
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Speaker 4: and you know we try to instill you know, those

489
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Speaker 4: same you know pillis foundation was like what block destruction,

490
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Speaker 4: you know, tackling, you know, effort and angles to the ball,

491
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Speaker 4: ball disruption and uh like communication. I can may say,

492
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Speaker 4: you know, that's the simple foundation. And you know, uh,

493
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Speaker 4: all week every day, you know, we we preached you know,

494
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Speaker 4: BTV and uh, you know, I like to tell the

495
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Speaker 4: defense like that's not BTV in practice, Like that's BTV

496
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Speaker 4: in the game. So uh yeah, you know, so you

497
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Speaker 4: know we try to carry that over man and uh,

498
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Speaker 4: you know it's been sewing, you know, the last past

499
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Speaker 4: three weeks.

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Speaker 1: You know, I remember last year. I think we talked

501
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Speaker 1: about a couple of weeks ago that that that two

502
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Speaker 1: point conversion stop you had in Denver, that that goal

503
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Speaker 1: line stand uh in Tennessee. Kind of these moments that

504
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Speaker 1: really could change the complexion of a game. You seem

505
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Speaker 1: to be right in the middle of it. What has

506
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Speaker 1: it been like this year, just especially coming back on

507
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Speaker 1: the on the back after that injury, to be able

508
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Speaker 1: to contribute in the way you have.

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Speaker 4: As a linebacker next day, being able to contribute man

510
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Speaker 4: first and foremost, in this business has just been great,

511
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Speaker 4: especially coming off the injury and being around the ball.

512
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Speaker 4: I think, you know, we get down in that situation.

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Speaker 4: I like to flip my mind.

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Speaker 3: In college.

515
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Speaker 4: In college, we had to saying, you know, you flip

516
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Speaker 4: the switch, like it doesn't matter how they got down there, Like,

517
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Speaker 4: you know, we keep my the end zone. So that's

518
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Speaker 4: my mentality when I'm down there. You know, I try

519
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Speaker 4: to get the guys, you know, to have that same mentality,

520
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Speaker 4: like all right, you know, don't matter how they got

521
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Speaker 4: down here, but like, let's flip the switch. Let's keep

522
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Speaker 4: my end zone. Let's try to you know, keep them

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Speaker 4: no points in general. So when those plays you know,

524
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Speaker 4: come around, you know what, we got to make a stop.

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Speaker 4: You know, just buckle down and bite down on that instrupt.

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Speaker 2: Give some other stuff, man, Give some other stuff from

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Speaker 2: the you?

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Speaker 3: What else? What else?

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Speaker 2: What else did they teach you with the you? That

530
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Speaker 2: did you flip back to?

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Speaker 3: I mean just the way that I play in general. Man,

532
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Speaker 3: you know, you got to create a legacy.

533
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Speaker 2: Whould you play with it? To you.

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Speaker 3: Defense?

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Speaker 4: I played with well when I first got in there.

536
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Speaker 4: Sean Spence, Marcus Forrest and uh like blond telomag Uh

537
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Speaker 4: who else? Anthony chick Alow played with some guys. I

538
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Speaker 4: played with some guys. It's a couple guys. But you know,

539
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Speaker 4: you just learned a lot and he just learned, you know,

540
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Speaker 4: just how to play football, honestly, how to play football.

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Speaker 3: Just keep that, you know, keep that edge on you.

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Speaker 2: Is it hard to look at nothing against the acc

543
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Speaker 2: or you know it was acc when you were there. Yeah,

544
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Speaker 2: so it's it's not like they're not grown ass man.

545
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Speaker 2: They can they can inflict some damage. But the NFL

546
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Speaker 2: is a little bit of a jump your brand of football.

547
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Speaker 2: Just how physical you played. Did you feel that when

548
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Speaker 2: you first got in the league that like, Okay, I'm

549
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Speaker 2: I'm bringing my hammer, but these guys kind of got

550
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Speaker 2: a hammer too. The other guys maybe had.

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Speaker 4: So uh my mindset going into the league, and it's

552
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Speaker 4: probably still the same thing now. Like I'm not feeling

553
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Speaker 4: like nobody punk me. You know, like I know, I've

554
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Speaker 4: been playing against grown man and my dad instilled to

555
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Speaker 4: me at a young age. You know, I got to college,

556
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Speaker 4: like you know, you planned, you know, the best of

557
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Speaker 4: the best. You know, this guy was all city, all

558
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Speaker 4: state where he come from. This guy's automatical whe he

559
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Speaker 4: come from. So it's like, you know, you're playing with

560
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Speaker 4: the best of the best, and I know everybody works

561
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Speaker 4: out and you know, all that good stuff like that.

562
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Speaker 4: But again my mindset, I refuse to be punk, like

563
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Speaker 4: I got people watching.

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Speaker 5: So I remember doing this podcast like twenty eighteen, twenty nineteen,

565
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Speaker 5: and you're sitting next to Casey Hayward, and I remember

566
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Speaker 5: it was like, I think PADS had just come on,

567
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Speaker 5: and Casey was joking around, like when pads come on

568
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Speaker 5: and Denzel's hitting it.

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Speaker 1: It's a problem the fact that it's twenty twenty five

570
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Speaker 1: and you still have that same physicality. How are you

571
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Speaker 1: able to sustain the way you play over such a

572
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Speaker 1: long period of time.

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Speaker 4: Uh, just my mentality, I will say, and working out, Uh,

574
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Speaker 4: you know, I gotta keep you.

575
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Speaker 3: Know, I gotta I gotta make sure you ran.

576
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Speaker 4: Yeah, exactly exactly. Gotta stay locked and ready. But you know,

577
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Speaker 4: I changed up my whole diet plan. I really didn't

578
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Speaker 4: have a diet. I would say, I just eat, you know,

579
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Speaker 4: everything that I wanted to eat. But now you know

580
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Speaker 4: it's a little more strict. Uh, things that you know

581
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Speaker 4: benefit the body, you know, getting older, can't eat everything

582
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Speaker 4: that you want to eat, don't burn it off as

583
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Speaker 4: fast as you would like. And uh, you know, just

584
00:26:02,920 --> 00:26:04,840
Speaker 4: the workout routine, you know, try to stay you know,

585
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Speaker 4: consistent in that.

586
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Speaker 2: So what what were you eating? What are you and

587
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Speaker 2: what do you eat on your cheat days? Because we

588
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Speaker 2: all got to have a cheat day, right.

589
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Speaker 4: Okay, So cheating wise, I mean fast food, you know McDonald's, Wendy's,

590
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Speaker 4: wing stop, you name it in and our fave guys

591
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Speaker 4: eating everything.

592
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Speaker 3: Uh.

593
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Speaker 4: Now it's just more of a you know, steaking, you know,

594
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Speaker 4: steaking potatoes, chicken, rice, cleaning little veggies. Every now and then, Uh,

595
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Speaker 4: sometimes I'll probably just have a smooth and be okay

596
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Speaker 4: with that.

597
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Speaker 2: What about you cheat or no ah.

598
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Speaker 4: Every now and then I probably say maybe two days

599
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Speaker 4: out the week, I just kind of eat whatever and

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Speaker 4: yes I'll run it off like the next day.

601
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Speaker 3: In practice.

602
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Speaker 2: There we go.

603
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Speaker 1: This uh this defense man, Uh, describe what it's like

604
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Speaker 1: compared to you know, when you were a gust or

605
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Speaker 1: you were you know at the Raiders, Like what is

606
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Speaker 1: Jesse mentored doing that is maybe a little bit different

607
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Speaker 1: from what you've been a part of in the past.

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Speaker 4: I would say just allowing you know, everybody just to

609
00:27:07,760 --> 00:27:09,760
Speaker 4: go out there and play. You know, he sees, you know,

610
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Speaker 4: what we have on defense, and you know, I think

611
00:27:12,080 --> 00:27:15,720
Speaker 4: you know, we play the calls that you know everybody can. Yeah,

612
00:27:15,760 --> 00:27:17,360
Speaker 4: just play freely. You know, we don't have to think

613
00:27:17,400 --> 00:27:20,080
Speaker 4: too much about anything. Uh, you know, we make one adjustment.

614
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Speaker 4: Everybody know, we just you know, it's thirty like that.

615
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Speaker 3: You know, it's just simple, simple, and just being a

616
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Speaker 3: defensive player. Been a defense systems.

617
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Speaker 4: Over the years, being able to just play fast and

618
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Speaker 4: I really have to think, like, you know, we get

619
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Speaker 4: maybe one of two calls, you know if it's a

620
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Speaker 4: check call, but out of those, one of the two calls.

621
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Speaker 3: Like all right, I know I got this. We go

622
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Speaker 3: to this, I know I have this.

623
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Speaker 2: I posted the two tackles on Jalen one and people

624
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Speaker 2: were quite excited about those, but I posted I was

625
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Speaker 2: talking with Lorenzo Neil and I brought, this is gonna

626
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Speaker 2: be kind of long, so I hope you don't get

627
00:27:53,840 --> 00:27:55,800
Speaker 2: bored to someth telling it, but I'll never forget. I

628
00:27:55,800 --> 00:27:57,280
Speaker 2: was working with Maurice Jones Drew and he told me

629
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Speaker 2: the story went in R Robinson got to Jacksonville. He

630
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Speaker 2: said look, there's gonna be a moment when you think

631
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Speaker 2: you see light in that hole, and you're gonna put

632
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Speaker 2: your head down and you're gonna get God and you

633
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Speaker 2: will never forget it. He goes, So whatever you do,

634
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Speaker 2: don't ever forget that you might see light, but it's

635
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Speaker 2: not there. And I said, and that's exactly what that

636
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Speaker 2: moment reminded me of. In the first half with Warren

637
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Speaker 2: as a boy, be's getting washed down by Washington and

638
00:28:18,480 --> 00:28:20,280
Speaker 2: you can just see him hit the burst and I

639
00:28:20,320 --> 00:28:23,800
Speaker 2: mean you stopped him dead in his track. So question

640
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Speaker 2: for you is, do you remember one of those in

641
00:28:25,600 --> 00:28:28,920
Speaker 2: particular when someone thought they saw daylight and Denzel Peramut

642
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Speaker 2: was there?

643
00:28:29,440 --> 00:28:32,280
Speaker 3: I remember multiple hit okay, real mut.

644
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Speaker 2: So if you can share a couple of those with us,

645
00:28:34,400 --> 00:28:35,960
Speaker 2: you don't have to share names if you don't want to,

646
00:28:36,040 --> 00:28:37,840
Speaker 2: or you can if you want. We saw Jalen Warren

647
00:28:37,880 --> 00:28:39,360
Speaker 2: on Sunday, so exactly.

648
00:28:40,200 --> 00:28:42,360
Speaker 4: I mean, I can date back to college. You know,

649
00:28:42,640 --> 00:28:44,920
Speaker 4: one of my former teammates that were here. You know,

650
00:28:45,000 --> 00:28:47,480
Speaker 4: we've had a couple of run ins and spring games

651
00:28:47,520 --> 00:28:50,040
Speaker 4: to where you know he thought he saw daylight. But uh,

652
00:28:50,520 --> 00:28:52,400
Speaker 4: just you know, in the league since I've been I

653
00:28:52,400 --> 00:28:53,960
Speaker 4: have a couple of hits. You know, a lot of

654
00:28:53,960 --> 00:28:57,880
Speaker 4: guys thought they saw daylight. But uh, you know, I

655
00:28:57,960 --> 00:28:59,800
Speaker 4: used to complain about my height, and I think that's

656
00:28:59,800 --> 00:29:01,400
Speaker 4: why I have the advantage, because a lot of guys

657
00:29:01,480 --> 00:29:02,040
Speaker 4: can't see me.

658
00:29:02,600 --> 00:29:03,760
Speaker 3: And I used to.

659
00:29:03,720 --> 00:29:07,840
Speaker 4: Play running back, you know, Bay, Yeah, so back of

660
00:29:07,880 --> 00:29:11,160
Speaker 4: my prop one of days. I used to play you know, uh,

661
00:29:11,400 --> 00:29:13,680
Speaker 4: full back and all that other good stuff like that.

662
00:29:14,120 --> 00:29:16,320
Speaker 4: And like you said, you think you see daylight, but

663
00:29:16,400 --> 00:29:18,640
Speaker 4: you know those guys see the same opening that you see.

664
00:29:18,680 --> 00:29:20,480
Speaker 4: And you know that's my mindset. I like to think

665
00:29:20,520 --> 00:29:22,080
Speaker 4: like a running back when I'm you know, on the

666
00:29:22,080 --> 00:29:23,120
Speaker 4: opposite side of the ball.

667
00:29:23,440 --> 00:29:23,640
Speaker 3: Yeah.

668
00:29:23,680 --> 00:29:25,840
Speaker 2: Lorenzo Neil was like, oh, I remember love yesterday it

669
00:29:25,920 --> 00:29:29,000
Speaker 2: was like conference semifinal. State thought this, he said, I

670
00:29:29,040 --> 00:29:30,960
Speaker 2: was playing linebacker. I thought I had this guy lined

671
00:29:31,000 --> 00:29:32,080
Speaker 2: up and next thing, you know, full back.

672
00:29:32,160 --> 00:29:34,960
Speaker 4: Just yeah, well my moment like that would have been

673
00:29:35,000 --> 00:29:35,760
Speaker 4: in high school.

674
00:29:35,920 --> 00:29:36,120
Speaker 3: You know.

675
00:29:36,320 --> 00:29:38,800
Speaker 4: We were actually just doing like a little inside run

676
00:29:38,840 --> 00:29:41,760
Speaker 4: and you know, just joking around thinking that the running back,

677
00:29:42,080 --> 00:29:43,720
Speaker 4: the running back, the linebacker wouldn't see me.

678
00:29:44,080 --> 00:29:44,720
Speaker 3: He was a senior.

679
00:29:44,760 --> 00:29:46,320
Speaker 4: I was a freshman at the time, and they ain't

680
00:29:46,320 --> 00:29:48,320
Speaker 4: gonna lie like he wiped me out. And after that,

681
00:29:48,360 --> 00:29:50,600
Speaker 4: I was like, yeah, no, it's never never happened again.

682
00:29:50,840 --> 00:29:52,240
Speaker 2: I'm gonna go play linebacker now.

683
00:29:52,560 --> 00:29:55,440
Speaker 4: I mean I was playing, you know, I was just

684
00:29:55,440 --> 00:29:57,200
Speaker 4: giving a look and I'm like, oh, okay, this this

685
00:29:57,240 --> 00:29:59,920
Speaker 4: would you know, this would have feel like you do it.

686
00:30:00,000 --> 00:30:02,840
Speaker 1: It's been cool, man. It's just seeing the relationship between

687
00:30:03,000 --> 00:30:05,480
Speaker 1: you and Dayon since he got here. You know, the

688
00:30:05,480 --> 00:30:08,000
Speaker 1: fact that he's a captain now and every time we

689
00:30:08,120 --> 00:30:12,400
Speaker 1: talk to him, he talks about you and what an

690
00:30:12,440 --> 00:30:14,800
Speaker 1: influential person you are in his life with on and

691
00:30:14,840 --> 00:30:18,400
Speaker 1: off the field. What's it been like to see Deayon's

692
00:30:19,160 --> 00:30:23,680
Speaker 1: progression in the league from rookie to now captain and

693
00:30:23,720 --> 00:30:25,520
Speaker 1: one of the leaders of this team as.

694
00:30:25,560 --> 00:30:27,160
Speaker 3: A proud big brother moment, you know.

695
00:30:28,880 --> 00:30:31,000
Speaker 4: To shoot Since the first day I met him, I

696
00:30:31,040 --> 00:30:32,880
Speaker 4: feel like, you know, I took on, like, you know,

697
00:30:33,440 --> 00:30:36,479
Speaker 4: a big brother role. You know, He's absolutely told me that,

698
00:30:36,520 --> 00:30:38,160
Speaker 4: you know, I'm like a big brother to him, and

699
00:30:39,000 --> 00:30:41,240
Speaker 4: I just, you know, try to give him all the

700
00:30:41,320 --> 00:30:43,520
Speaker 4: little nuggets the knowledge that I have. You know, we

701
00:30:43,640 --> 00:30:45,400
Speaker 4: have a viral bowman in the room, and that's somebody

702
00:30:45,440 --> 00:30:48,080
Speaker 4: I used to look up too. So you know, I

703
00:30:48,080 --> 00:30:50,480
Speaker 4: feel like for him, you know you got Navarral Bowman.

704
00:30:50,640 --> 00:30:52,360
Speaker 4: You know you got me, you know somebody that you

705
00:30:52,360 --> 00:30:54,360
Speaker 4: know he did, you know, watching all that good stuff

706
00:30:54,400 --> 00:30:58,200
Speaker 4: like growing up, so watching him become the player that

707
00:30:58,240 --> 00:31:01,320
Speaker 4: he is now the captain and you know him still

708
00:31:01,400 --> 00:31:04,040
Speaker 4: you know, being you know, the best version you know

709
00:31:04,120 --> 00:31:06,480
Speaker 4: that he can be, you know, regardless of everything going on.

710
00:31:06,560 --> 00:31:09,320
Speaker 4: Man like that, that that just makes me proud. It

711
00:31:09,360 --> 00:31:11,560
Speaker 4: makes me happy. I'm not going to tear up and

712
00:31:11,600 --> 00:31:14,640
Speaker 4: get emotional here, but like, like seriously, that that really

713
00:31:14,680 --> 00:31:17,680
Speaker 4: makes me happy. Man just shows like how strong of

714
00:31:17,680 --> 00:31:20,120
Speaker 4: a player, of a person, of a human that he is.

715
00:31:20,600 --> 00:31:23,640
Speaker 1: But just you know, your influence though, Like did you

716
00:31:23,760 --> 00:31:25,800
Speaker 1: envision that type of role when you were a rookie

717
00:31:25,880 --> 00:31:28,600
Speaker 1: first second year guy? Because it feels like you're playing

718
00:31:28,600 --> 00:31:31,120
Speaker 1: at a high level, but you're also you mean so

719
00:31:31,200 --> 00:31:32,040
Speaker 1: much to that room.

720
00:31:32,640 --> 00:31:35,200
Speaker 3: Ah did I ever see this?

721
00:31:35,480 --> 00:31:35,520
Speaker 1: No?

722
00:31:37,240 --> 00:31:38,440
Speaker 3: Have I probably said it.

723
00:31:38,440 --> 00:31:40,040
Speaker 4: I probably said it before, Like you know, I want

724
00:31:40,080 --> 00:31:42,800
Speaker 4: to be you know, as just as a motivation to somebody,

725
00:31:42,880 --> 00:31:45,640
Speaker 4: you know, as they were to me. So I guess,

726
00:31:45,680 --> 00:31:47,800
Speaker 4: you know, taking a step back now, you know, hearing

727
00:31:47,800 --> 00:31:49,760
Speaker 4: you say it, I mean, I heard people say it before,

728
00:31:49,840 --> 00:31:51,560
Speaker 4: but you know, I guess you really don't you know,

729
00:31:51,640 --> 00:31:53,920
Speaker 4: see it? And realizing you know that, you take a

730
00:31:54,000 --> 00:31:56,160
Speaker 4: step back and you know see it.

731
00:31:56,560 --> 00:31:59,160
Speaker 2: We always hear like complimentary football from the Three Faces,

732
00:31:59,160 --> 00:32:02,719
Speaker 2: but complimentary football so important on defense just kind of

733
00:32:02,720 --> 00:32:04,560
Speaker 2: how long does it take to get it? Does it

734
00:32:04,640 --> 00:32:06,720
Speaker 2: matter who's playing? And you have to figure out how

735
00:32:06,840 --> 00:32:08,560
Speaker 2: what style they're playing in front of you, that the

736
00:32:08,800 --> 00:32:10,160
Speaker 2: big bodies in front of you to make sure no

737
00:32:10,160 --> 00:32:12,680
Speaker 2: one's climbing up to get you, Like, what's what goes

738
00:32:12,720 --> 00:32:14,880
Speaker 2: into that? How quickly can you can you figure it out?

739
00:32:14,880 --> 00:32:17,400
Speaker 2: Because man, it seems like this team plays such good

740
00:32:17,520 --> 00:32:19,600
Speaker 2: complimentary football on the defensive side of the ball.

741
00:32:19,840 --> 00:32:22,400
Speaker 4: I would say the companiment of football that starts in practice,

742
00:32:22,440 --> 00:32:24,320
Speaker 4: Like you say, you know, how does this person play?

743
00:32:24,320 --> 00:32:25,240
Speaker 4: How does this person play?

744
00:32:25,320 --> 00:32:25,600
Speaker 3: Well?

745
00:32:26,480 --> 00:32:28,760
Speaker 4: Just an example. I'm not saying this does happen, but

746
00:32:28,840 --> 00:32:31,080
Speaker 4: like I might have tiera Tart and a Kwan, Like

747
00:32:31,160 --> 00:32:34,560
Speaker 4: a Kwan, you know, might just take the gap, you know,

748
00:32:35,120 --> 00:32:37,040
Speaker 4: Tier Tart might two gap, you know what I'm saying.

749
00:32:37,080 --> 00:32:39,080
Speaker 4: But I just have to play off of those guys,

750
00:32:39,080 --> 00:32:40,800
Speaker 4: and I feel like, you know, that's what you know

751
00:32:40,920 --> 00:32:43,000
Speaker 4: that just comes in, like you said, the complimentary football,

752
00:32:43,480 --> 00:32:46,600
Speaker 4: And I feel like as far as defense go, like

753
00:32:46,640 --> 00:32:48,600
Speaker 4: it doesn't matter like who's out there. You know, it's

754
00:32:48,600 --> 00:32:50,920
Speaker 4: like next man up in tally. And I've heard somebody

755
00:32:50,960 --> 00:32:53,120
Speaker 4: say that in the wise where it's like it's next

756
00:32:53,120 --> 00:32:55,200
Speaker 4: man up in tally. But when you become that next

757
00:32:55,240 --> 00:32:58,520
Speaker 4: man up, like you are a man. So uh, we

758
00:32:58,640 --> 00:33:01,440
Speaker 4: just honestly, like we just go out there with that mentality.

759
00:33:01,680 --> 00:33:03,920
Speaker 2: You've you've done it. You've had them all so if

760
00:33:03,960 --> 00:33:05,560
Speaker 2: you you know, and I don't know if you want

761
00:33:05,600 --> 00:33:08,120
Speaker 2: to rank them, they're all great, right, but force fumble,

762
00:33:09,040 --> 00:33:12,880
Speaker 2: interception like sack on a third down that forces a punt.

763
00:33:13,640 --> 00:33:16,040
Speaker 2: But what do you what do you like having You're

764
00:33:16,080 --> 00:33:17,480
Speaker 2: turning the ball over every which way?

765
00:33:17,600 --> 00:33:17,760
Speaker 3: Yeah?

766
00:33:18,160 --> 00:33:22,320
Speaker 4: As a linebacker, who that's that's tough. I'm not gonna

767
00:33:22,320 --> 00:33:24,400
Speaker 4: put interceptions up there because I don't drop.

768
00:33:24,200 --> 00:33:26,080
Speaker 3: Two back to back week.

769
00:33:26,160 --> 00:33:29,960
Speaker 4: So yeah, yeah, yeah, I've been working on I've been

770
00:33:29,960 --> 00:33:32,600
Speaker 4: working on it, so, uh, interceptions gonna go last on

771
00:33:32,600 --> 00:33:36,640
Speaker 4: that list for me right now, I'll probably say force fumble, sack,

772
00:33:36,960 --> 00:33:38,320
Speaker 4: inter whate was.

773
00:33:38,280 --> 00:33:40,000
Speaker 1: Coming in hot there, like you barely turned down.

774
00:33:40,040 --> 00:33:41,800
Speaker 3: It was like the first one. All right, let me

775
00:33:41,880 --> 00:33:42,040
Speaker 3: let me.

776
00:33:42,320 --> 00:33:44,280
Speaker 4: I gotta, I gotta, I gotta say my part here.

777
00:33:44,440 --> 00:33:46,880
Speaker 4: The first one vikings game. Where's my single?

778
00:33:46,960 --> 00:33:47,160
Speaker 3: Yeah?

779
00:33:47,360 --> 00:33:49,920
Speaker 4: The first one vikings game. I ran to the receiver

780
00:33:50,200 --> 00:33:52,440
Speaker 4: as he broke out. As soon as I turned my head,

781
00:33:52,520 --> 00:33:54,280
Speaker 4: like literally, how close this mic is.

782
00:33:54,280 --> 00:33:57,520
Speaker 3: That's how coast the ball was. Could put my hands up. Now.

783
00:33:57,760 --> 00:34:00,440
Speaker 3: Titans week, that was a little different.

784
00:34:00,680 --> 00:34:00,880
Speaker 5: You know.

785
00:34:01,000 --> 00:34:04,280
Speaker 4: I'm like, okay, just sitting on the sidelines before, you know,

786
00:34:04,320 --> 00:34:06,400
Speaker 4: watching third down, I'm like, A right, A lot of passes,

787
00:34:06,440 --> 00:34:09,000
Speaker 4: you know, keep going to the middle, and I remember

788
00:34:09,120 --> 00:34:11,120
Speaker 4: they were like in a bunch formation. I'm like, all right,

789
00:34:11,120 --> 00:34:14,120
Speaker 4: somebody's about to break across the middle. I broke across

790
00:34:14,160 --> 00:34:16,680
Speaker 4: the middle. I couldn't see the quarterback, but literally I

791
00:34:16,760 --> 00:34:19,319
Speaker 4: just saw the ball and I'm like, oh, you know,

792
00:34:19,960 --> 00:34:21,560
Speaker 4: and by the time I can think about how I

793
00:34:21,600 --> 00:34:23,200
Speaker 4: wanted to catch, the ball hit me in the face,

794
00:34:23,200 --> 00:34:25,520
Speaker 4: and I'm just like that's why I just stood there,

795
00:34:25,680 --> 00:34:26,680
Speaker 4: like you know what that was supposed to be.

796
00:34:29,520 --> 00:34:32,160
Speaker 1: It all evens out. You know, we talk about all

797
00:34:32,160 --> 00:34:36,920
Speaker 1: the veterans on this team, yourself, Khalil Durwin dayon now,

798
00:34:37,560 --> 00:34:39,880
Speaker 1: but we saw some of these rookies on on Saturday,

799
00:34:39,920 --> 00:34:43,879
Speaker 1: football man from RJ. Mickens to Nico Reid to Jamari called, well,

800
00:34:44,840 --> 00:34:46,800
Speaker 1: what has it been like seeing some of these rookies

801
00:34:46,880 --> 00:34:50,680
Speaker 1: not become rookies anymore and really meaningfully contribute down the stretch?

802
00:34:51,600 --> 00:34:53,879
Speaker 4: I like to tell them like they're not rookies. I mean,

803
00:34:53,920 --> 00:34:56,200
Speaker 4: I like they are rookies, but you know you're not rookies.

804
00:34:56,200 --> 00:34:58,000
Speaker 4: Like when you're out there, it's like, don't make the

805
00:34:58,040 --> 00:34:59,120
Speaker 4: stage bigger than what it is.

806
00:34:59,160 --> 00:35:00,319
Speaker 3: You know, do what you do.

807
00:35:00,719 --> 00:35:02,600
Speaker 4: They got you here, you know, like obviously you hit

808
00:35:02,640 --> 00:35:06,960
Speaker 4: for a reason, like Joe picked literally single hand, he

809
00:35:07,000 --> 00:35:09,120
Speaker 4: picked everybody and hit for a reason. So just go

810
00:35:09,160 --> 00:35:11,000
Speaker 4: out there and play football like it's the same game

811
00:35:11,040 --> 00:35:13,920
Speaker 4: we've been playing since you know we're kids. Obviously you

812
00:35:13,960 --> 00:35:16,719
Speaker 4: know it's on the higher, you know level, But just

813
00:35:17,040 --> 00:35:19,160
Speaker 4: go out there and play does ball out But you know,

814
00:35:19,320 --> 00:35:21,520
Speaker 4: just see them just make plays and not you know,

815
00:35:21,640 --> 00:35:24,200
Speaker 4: be rookies. I mean, I feel like that's why you

816
00:35:24,239 --> 00:35:26,439
Speaker 4: know we're as great as well as the defense.

817
00:35:26,520 --> 00:35:29,160
Speaker 2: The just to the game on Sunday and what you

818
00:35:29,200 --> 00:35:30,800
Speaker 2: guys have have put out there now when you know,

819
00:35:30,840 --> 00:35:32,560
Speaker 2: anybody that wants to take it in can see it

820
00:35:33,400 --> 00:35:35,640
Speaker 2: just through these ten games. One of the best red

821
00:35:35,719 --> 00:35:37,439
Speaker 2: zone defenses, the best, you know, one of the best

822
00:35:37,440 --> 00:35:42,000
Speaker 2: third down defenses. Your past defense, exceptional run defense is

823
00:35:42,000 --> 00:35:44,680
Speaker 2: certainly starting to skyrocket. And now we're sorting to see

824
00:35:44,760 --> 00:35:46,200
Speaker 2: starting to see the stuff that we saw in twenty

825
00:35:46,239 --> 00:35:48,840
Speaker 2: twenty four. Just kind of what do the Jaguars present,

826
00:35:49,120 --> 00:35:52,360
Speaker 2: you know, from a challenge standpoint, what if you guys

827
00:35:52,560 --> 00:35:55,719
Speaker 2: found these last three weeks that that you're averaging I

828
00:35:55,719 --> 00:35:57,800
Speaker 2: think it's under nine points per game a lot to

829
00:35:57,840 --> 00:35:58,600
Speaker 2: these offenses.

830
00:35:58,840 --> 00:36:00,759
Speaker 3: Wow, he can news to me.

831
00:36:01,640 --> 00:36:04,160
Speaker 4: But when it comes to the Jaguars, you know, starting

832
00:36:04,200 --> 00:36:05,960
Speaker 4: with the quarterback, you know, Trevor Lawrence, he can make

833
00:36:06,000 --> 00:36:09,759
Speaker 4: plays with his arm and his feet. So we're gonna

834
00:36:09,760 --> 00:36:10,920
Speaker 4: have to you know, rush the couple. We have to

835
00:36:10,920 --> 00:36:13,480
Speaker 4: work together in that aspect. They have some great running

836
00:36:13,480 --> 00:36:15,520
Speaker 4: backs back there, you know, getting north and south like

837
00:36:15,600 --> 00:36:19,640
Speaker 4: real quick, great vision, goody looseness, and you know, got

838
00:36:19,719 --> 00:36:21,960
Speaker 4: receivers and tight ends you know that can make plays. Also,

839
00:36:22,120 --> 00:36:25,000
Speaker 4: So for me as a defensive player, I always said,

840
00:36:25,000 --> 00:36:26,640
Speaker 4: you know, I got to make a one dimensional you know,

841
00:36:26,680 --> 00:36:28,120
Speaker 4: we got to stop the run. We gotta stop the

842
00:36:28,160 --> 00:36:30,600
Speaker 4: pass like we got to shut something down, you know,

843
00:36:30,600 --> 00:36:33,399
Speaker 4: to make them one dimensional and just trusting each other

844
00:36:33,440 --> 00:36:34,839
Speaker 4: and doing what we're doing all week.

845
00:36:35,600 --> 00:36:37,560
Speaker 1: Last one for me, you know, this is the last

846
00:36:37,560 --> 00:36:39,960
Speaker 1: game before the bye too, and you guys get a

847
00:36:40,040 --> 00:36:42,200
Speaker 1: week to kind of get ready for the for the

848
00:36:42,239 --> 00:36:46,319
Speaker 1: home stretch. How important is it just to finish the

849
00:36:46,400 --> 00:36:49,879
Speaker 1: right way before the bye, knowing that the schedule doesn't

850
00:36:49,880 --> 00:36:51,480
Speaker 1: get any easier. I mean you have the Raiders coming

851
00:36:51,480 --> 00:36:53,560
Speaker 1: out of it and then kind of a gauntlet to

852
00:36:53,920 --> 00:36:54,759
Speaker 1: get to January.

853
00:36:55,360 --> 00:36:57,120
Speaker 4: Well, you know, we got a break coming up. I

854
00:36:57,120 --> 00:36:59,600
Speaker 4: don't think anybody's paying attention towards the break. I think

855
00:37:00,120 --> 00:37:02,680
Speaker 4: more at the task at hand, which is you know, finishing.

856
00:37:02,840 --> 00:37:04,919
Speaker 4: You know, whether we got to break this week, next week,

857
00:37:05,120 --> 00:37:08,400
Speaker 4: the following week, just to finish and continue doing what

858
00:37:08,440 --> 00:37:12,239
Speaker 4: we've been doing, be consistent and honestly probably playing for

859
00:37:12,280 --> 00:37:14,239
Speaker 4: our freedom as in you know, getting the whole by

860
00:37:14,280 --> 00:37:19,200
Speaker 4: week off, so freedom exactly. So there's there's no taking

861
00:37:19,200 --> 00:37:21,160
Speaker 4: this game lightly, you know, Like I said, whether the

862
00:37:21,160 --> 00:37:23,560
Speaker 4: bode week was the week after like the week before,

863
00:37:23,600 --> 00:37:24,160
Speaker 4: it doesn't matter.

864
00:37:24,239 --> 00:37:26,160
Speaker 2: Fight for our lot. Yeah, we'll finish with this one.

865
00:37:26,160 --> 00:37:29,200
Speaker 2: Then everybody that that follows our great social media team

866
00:37:29,239 --> 00:37:33,479
Speaker 2: knows the deep Stay Hydrated. So, uh, is The Water

867
00:37:33,520 --> 00:37:36,120
Speaker 2: Boy your favorite film because of the Stay Hydrated? And if not,

868
00:37:36,160 --> 00:37:36,960
Speaker 2: what is your favorite for.

869
00:37:37,120 --> 00:37:39,319
Speaker 4: Man, I'm not gonna lie to you that that's one

870
00:37:39,320 --> 00:37:41,520
Speaker 4: of my favorite like movies. Not even gonna lot to

871
00:37:41,560 --> 00:37:43,919
Speaker 4: you water Boy. Uh, I'm not gonna say that's where

872
00:37:43,920 --> 00:37:47,239
Speaker 4: the State Hydrated came from. But uh, just thinking about it.

873
00:37:47,560 --> 00:37:49,880
Speaker 4: Bobbie Bouchet, you know he did preach you know, drinking

874
00:37:50,080 --> 00:37:54,160
Speaker 4: hot quality H two, So I would say The water Boy. Uh,

875
00:37:54,239 --> 00:37:56,680
Speaker 4: the Little Giants and remember the Titans are kind of

876
00:37:56,719 --> 00:37:57,959
Speaker 4: like my favorite football movies.

877
00:37:58,080 --> 00:38:00,160
Speaker 3: We and facing the Giants. I got to throw that then.

878
00:38:00,760 --> 00:38:02,120
Speaker 1: That's I wish we could do that. I wish we

879
00:38:02,120 --> 00:38:02,840
Speaker 1: could had with like a.

880
00:38:02,840 --> 00:38:05,720
Speaker 3: Permanent He's the best, you know, I mean, I'm downstairs,

881
00:38:05,760 --> 00:38:06,040
Speaker 3: all right.

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Speaker 1: Get appreciate your time.

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894
00:38:50,440 --> 00:38:52,480
Speaker 1: it's hard to believe the Denzil is still playing at

895
00:38:52,480 --> 00:38:55,320
Speaker 1: this level in twenty twenty five, one of the original

896
00:38:55,400 --> 00:38:57,160
Speaker 1: San Diego Chargers still doing it.

897
00:38:57,320 --> 00:38:59,960
Speaker 2: Yeah, and you know, we kind of alluded to it.

898
00:39:00,080 --> 00:39:02,120
Speaker 2: But now that I'm sitting in front of my computer

899
00:39:02,160 --> 00:39:04,799
Speaker 2: and I have everything kind of laid out in front

900
00:39:04,840 --> 00:39:07,480
Speaker 2: of me, you're talking about a defense last week or

901
00:39:07,520 --> 00:39:11,040
Speaker 2: on Sunday that allowed a single reception for twenty or

902
00:39:11,080 --> 00:39:15,040
Speaker 2: more yards, that allowed seventy three rush yards, that had

903
00:39:15,120 --> 00:39:18,840
Speaker 2: Aaron Rodgers at a fifteen point nine passer rating the

904
00:39:18,920 --> 00:39:22,440
Speaker 2: worst number of his career before that garbage time touchdown.

905
00:39:22,560 --> 00:39:27,000
Speaker 2: I mean they did only one penalty on defense, a

906
00:39:27,239 --> 00:39:31,359
Speaker 2: four percent convinced zero for nine on third down, you know,

907
00:39:31,600 --> 00:39:36,759
Speaker 2: before that garbage time touchdown. Like that's how dominant they were.

908
00:39:37,200 --> 00:39:41,120
Speaker 2: And the one thing going into this week is since

909
00:39:41,200 --> 00:39:46,320
Speaker 2: twenty twenty four, they are thirteen and zho against bottom

910
00:39:46,400 --> 00:39:49,200
Speaker 2: ten offenses. And remember last year that was kind of

911
00:39:49,200 --> 00:39:51,120
Speaker 2: the narrative of all the quarterbacks you had to play

912
00:39:51,160 --> 00:39:53,440
Speaker 2: the way to schedule late out that won the games

913
00:39:53,480 --> 00:39:56,200
Speaker 2: they had to win. Coming up against Jacksonville. As we

914
00:39:56,239 --> 00:40:00,440
Speaker 2: shift to looking forward, twenty eighth ranked offense league, and

915
00:40:00,840 --> 00:40:02,680
Speaker 2: I think we're just starting to see, you know, with

916
00:40:02,800 --> 00:40:04,800
Speaker 2: Denzel as I look over to where he was sitting,

917
00:40:04,800 --> 00:40:08,279
Speaker 2: but he's not anymore one of the leaders of like, yeah,

918
00:40:08,280 --> 00:40:10,560
Speaker 2: this this defense is back to looking like they looked

919
00:40:10,600 --> 00:40:11,080
Speaker 2: last year.

920
00:40:11,160 --> 00:40:14,480
Speaker 1: Yeah, Jacksonville coming off really a catastrophic loss, get out

921
00:40:14,480 --> 00:40:17,320
Speaker 1: scored twenty six to zero in the fourth quarter to

922
00:40:17,440 --> 00:40:22,240
Speaker 1: Davis Mills and the Texans. This is a game where listen,

923
00:40:22,440 --> 00:40:24,600
Speaker 1: they know that there you read those stats off at

924
00:40:24,640 --> 00:40:26,520
Speaker 1: the beginning, that they know what this means to their

925
00:40:26,520 --> 00:40:30,200
Speaker 1: playoff odds. Yeah, But at the same time, like I

926
00:40:30,239 --> 00:40:32,960
Speaker 1: go back to Tennessee and you know the punt return

927
00:40:33,000 --> 00:40:35,120
Speaker 1: for a touchdown that the Chargers gave up and the

928
00:40:35,160 --> 00:40:37,520
Speaker 1: pick six, and just what the defense was able to

929
00:40:37,560 --> 00:40:41,160
Speaker 1: do outside of that. The Jags had a punt return

930
00:40:41,200 --> 00:40:43,840
Speaker 1: for a touchdown in this game. You mentioned the Jags

931
00:40:43,880 --> 00:40:47,960
Speaker 1: offense hasn't been the best. Brian Thomas Juniors a question

932
00:40:48,000 --> 00:40:50,960
Speaker 1: mark coming into this game. So this is just another

933
00:40:51,000 --> 00:40:52,640
Speaker 1: one on the roads. You got to take care of business.

934
00:40:52,760 --> 00:40:54,279
Speaker 2: Yeah, and look you mentioned it. They had a plumb

935
00:40:54,320 --> 00:40:56,600
Speaker 2: return last It's a second time Parker Washington's return of

936
00:40:56,640 --> 00:40:59,399
Speaker 2: punt for a touchdown and boy talk about bouncing back

937
00:40:59,520 --> 00:41:02,799
Speaker 2: right after upon return for a td. How well del

938
00:41:02,880 --> 00:41:06,160
Speaker 2: Sean Phillips played, How well JK Scott played, you know,

939
00:41:06,360 --> 00:41:09,200
Speaker 2: with that sidewind and punt that he had that ended

940
00:41:09,280 --> 00:41:12,040
Speaker 2: up getting muffed that Phillips recovered, you know, Phillips with

941
00:41:12,080 --> 00:41:14,359
Speaker 2: three special teams tackles. I know Dean Leonard was out

942
00:41:14,360 --> 00:41:18,520
Speaker 2: there in place of John Taylor, but you know Josh

943
00:41:19,719 --> 00:41:22,080
Speaker 2: and Josh Harris was great, you know, And I think

944
00:41:22,200 --> 00:41:27,080
Speaker 2: that's you look at the the mechanics of the field

945
00:41:27,080 --> 00:41:30,359
Speaker 2: goal attempts were not seeing JK. Scott having it, dig

946
00:41:30,400 --> 00:41:32,719
Speaker 2: balls out of the dirt and you know, grab him

947
00:41:32,719 --> 00:41:34,840
Speaker 2: over his shoulder. So I think having him back and

948
00:41:34,880 --> 00:41:37,200
Speaker 2: he's also really good at getting down, you know, because

949
00:41:37,200 --> 00:41:39,520
Speaker 2: you can't block the long snapper. So when you have

950
00:41:39,560 --> 00:41:42,680
Speaker 2: an athlete at that position that can at least get

951
00:41:42,760 --> 00:41:46,319
Speaker 2: down on the coverage. On punt coverage, it helps a

952
00:41:46,320 --> 00:41:49,879
Speaker 2: lot because you can at least dictate terms of which

953
00:41:49,920 --> 00:41:51,839
Speaker 2: way they're going to go and try to funnel them

954
00:41:52,239 --> 00:41:54,480
Speaker 2: to coverage. And I thought, you know, that was something

955
00:41:54,480 --> 00:41:56,719
Speaker 2: that we saw as well. But I also just it

956
00:41:56,880 --> 00:42:00,160
Speaker 2: just felt like the defense after the Colts game, the

957
00:42:00,160 --> 00:42:04,439
Speaker 2: way the special teams operated was very reminiscent of that, Like, Yeah,

958
00:42:04,520 --> 00:42:06,960
Speaker 2: what you saw against the Titans is not what we're about.

959
00:42:07,080 --> 00:42:09,319
Speaker 2: We're better than that. And look, even though Cam missed

960
00:42:09,320 --> 00:42:11,520
Speaker 2: a field goal, it was a doink hit a fifty

961
00:42:11,600 --> 00:42:13,400
Speaker 2: nine yard of those, yeah, and it was a fifty

962
00:42:13,400 --> 00:42:15,120
Speaker 2: five yarder, right, I think that he missed.

963
00:42:14,880 --> 00:42:17,200
Speaker 1: So he kicked it out of balance to start the game,

964
00:42:17,200 --> 00:42:18,520
Speaker 1: though here was a few times.

965
00:42:18,560 --> 00:42:20,400
Speaker 2: There was that, yeah, and he knows that's got to

966
00:42:20,440 --> 00:42:23,640
Speaker 2: get cleaned up. I mean. The funny thing about that too,

967
00:42:23,760 --> 00:42:27,360
Speaker 2: is you know, you're talking about five yards, right. It

968
00:42:27,400 --> 00:42:30,759
Speaker 2: seems like it's such an insane starting field position, Right,

969
00:42:30,760 --> 00:42:33,479
Speaker 2: you're just ten yards from midfield, but if you boot

970
00:42:33,520 --> 00:42:34,680
Speaker 2: it out of the back of the end zone, they're

971
00:42:34,680 --> 00:42:38,160
Speaker 2: at the thirty five. So I kind of understand the

972
00:42:38,200 --> 00:42:42,560
Speaker 2: idea of trying to place that thing perfectly inside the

973
00:42:42,560 --> 00:42:44,920
Speaker 2: five yard line in one of the corners, so you

974
00:42:44,920 --> 00:42:47,880
Speaker 2: can really gain a yardage advantage and get these guys

975
00:42:47,960 --> 00:42:50,560
Speaker 2: shy of the twenty five because now you're talking about

976
00:42:50,880 --> 00:42:54,520
Speaker 2: a ten to twelve yard advantage for the coverage team.

977
00:42:54,719 --> 00:42:57,759
Speaker 2: So it's not ideal start at forty, you know, but

978
00:42:57,920 --> 00:43:00,279
Speaker 2: the defense showed up, you know, and forced that three

979
00:43:00,280 --> 00:43:03,600
Speaker 2: and out. So to me, that was sort of you know,

980
00:43:04,320 --> 00:43:06,319
Speaker 2: we said we were done talking about the Steelers game,

981
00:43:06,320 --> 00:43:08,040
Speaker 2: but I think it's just kind of flipping it forward.

982
00:43:08,280 --> 00:43:10,760
Speaker 2: I think that's something when you look at the Jags,

983
00:43:10,760 --> 00:43:13,600
Speaker 2: and I'm looking at all their rankings right now, special teams,

984
00:43:14,600 --> 00:43:20,000
Speaker 2: they're punts seventh punt returns, second punt returns allowed, second

985
00:43:20,120 --> 00:43:23,879
Speaker 2: kickoff returns eighth kickoff returns allowed is the only place

986
00:43:23,880 --> 00:43:26,440
Speaker 2: where they're leaky. So it's a team that's very good

987
00:43:26,520 --> 00:43:29,759
Speaker 2: in that particular facet. And so you got to be

988
00:43:29,840 --> 00:43:31,799
Speaker 2: sound in all three phases because they've shown they can

989
00:43:31,840 --> 00:43:34,560
Speaker 2: make teams pay, you know, with Cam Little in his

990
00:43:34,640 --> 00:43:37,000
Speaker 2: sixty eight yard field goal, you know, that's kind of

991
00:43:37,000 --> 00:43:39,120
Speaker 2: where you got to to make sure you're you're kind

992
00:43:39,120 --> 00:43:39,520
Speaker 2: of sharp.

993
00:43:39,719 --> 00:43:42,160
Speaker 1: Yeah, they have a weapon in the kicking game, just

994
00:43:42,200 --> 00:43:43,080
Speaker 1: like the Chargers do.

995
00:43:43,480 --> 00:43:43,680
Speaker 2: You know.

996
00:43:44,040 --> 00:43:46,040
Speaker 1: One of the things that I think we talked about

997
00:43:46,120 --> 00:43:49,520
Speaker 1: last week was the fact that the Steelers forced six

998
00:43:49,640 --> 00:43:53,600
Speaker 1: turnovers the week before. Yeah, the Colts and the Chargers

999
00:43:53,640 --> 00:43:57,040
Speaker 1: win the turnof a battle three zero against Pittsburgh. The

1000
00:43:57,160 --> 00:44:02,120
Speaker 1: Jags come into week eleven plus eight turnover differentials, which

1001
00:44:02,160 --> 00:44:04,840
Speaker 1: is second in the NFL. So it really is almost

1002
00:44:04,840 --> 00:44:07,000
Speaker 1: like a blueprint from last week. Just don't turn the

1003
00:44:07,000 --> 00:44:09,719
Speaker 1: football over, don't put them in situations to where they

1004
00:44:09,760 --> 00:44:12,120
Speaker 1: can beat you both in the kicking game, and also

1005
00:44:12,520 --> 00:44:14,320
Speaker 1: you know by just giving the ball away.

1006
00:44:14,480 --> 00:44:17,680
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean, the thing is is that, you know,

1007
00:44:17,960 --> 00:44:19,879
Speaker 2: Trevor Lawrence has given it away a little bit. He's

1008
00:44:19,920 --> 00:44:22,520
Speaker 2: thrown seven picks, you know, and they've lost two fumbles,

1009
00:44:22,520 --> 00:44:24,800
Speaker 2: so there's nine out there. The differences, Like you said,

1010
00:44:24,840 --> 00:44:28,000
Speaker 2: they're taking it away. They've got twelve interceptions, they've secured

1011
00:44:28,040 --> 00:44:30,520
Speaker 2: five of the seven fumbles that have hit the ground.

1012
00:44:30,640 --> 00:44:35,279
Speaker 2: So I think you're right, it's a similar situation the differences. Man,

1013
00:44:35,280 --> 00:44:37,360
Speaker 2: this team has not been able to rush the passer

1014
00:44:37,680 --> 00:44:41,200
Speaker 2: at all like they've been which is wild when you

1015
00:44:41,239 --> 00:44:44,640
Speaker 2: think about Trayvon Walker, and in fact he was drafting

1016
00:44:44,680 --> 00:44:47,560
Speaker 2: ahead of you know, Aiden Hutchinson, and you've got josh

1017
00:44:47,640 --> 00:44:49,840
Speaker 2: hinz Allen out there, one of the better pass rushers.

1018
00:44:50,120 --> 00:44:52,160
Speaker 2: And yet I'm trying to think I had it pulled up.

1019
00:44:53,239 --> 00:44:54,840
Speaker 1: They did not get to Davis Mills.

1020
00:44:54,960 --> 00:45:00,440
Speaker 2: Yeah, they are one of the lowest sack and pressure

1021
00:45:00,520 --> 00:45:03,880
Speaker 2: rate fronts out there, and I don't have it in

1022
00:45:03,920 --> 00:45:05,680
Speaker 2: front of me, but I know it's bottom three in

1023
00:45:05,760 --> 00:45:09,520
Speaker 2: terms of pressure rate. So you would think that benefits

1024
00:45:09,680 --> 00:45:11,360
Speaker 2: you know, you'd like to think, even though they have

1025
00:45:11,360 --> 00:45:13,399
Speaker 2: the struggles on the offensive line, that there's a way

1026
00:45:13,440 --> 00:45:15,319
Speaker 2: for them to kind of give justin some time. Let's

1027
00:45:15,360 --> 00:45:17,880
Speaker 2: not get him hit, you know, at such an alarming

1028
00:45:17,960 --> 00:45:20,040
Speaker 2: rate and another five sacks, even though he's willing to

1029
00:45:20,080 --> 00:45:22,000
Speaker 2: eat it because he doesn't want to turn the ball over.

1030
00:45:22,600 --> 00:45:24,520
Speaker 2: I'd love to see him get a breather back there

1031
00:45:24,719 --> 00:45:26,800
Speaker 2: for a game, because, man, even though he's a horse,

1032
00:45:27,200 --> 00:45:29,120
Speaker 2: it just feels like he's taking a lot of hits

1033
00:45:29,160 --> 00:45:29,440
Speaker 2: right now.

1034
00:45:29,440 --> 00:45:31,480
Speaker 1: It's still not sustainable. And I guess we didn't talk

1035
00:45:31,480 --> 00:45:33,719
Speaker 1: about the offensive line as it related to the Pittsburgh game,

1036
00:45:33,719 --> 00:45:35,840
Speaker 1: but I think it's a nice segue into this game.

1037
00:45:36,280 --> 00:45:38,680
Speaker 1: You mentioned Jackson will struggle with getting after the quarterback.

1038
00:45:40,040 --> 00:45:41,879
Speaker 1: What is the offensive line going to look like this week?

1039
00:45:41,880 --> 00:45:44,960
Speaker 1: Because I know coach Harpball talked about Trevor Penning kind

1040
00:45:45,000 --> 00:45:48,279
Speaker 1: of working that left Bobby Hart returning to practice. So

1041
00:45:48,320 --> 00:45:50,839
Speaker 1: I'll be interested to see if Trevor Penning maybe gets

1042
00:45:50,840 --> 00:45:52,959
Speaker 1: the night of left tackle this Sunday or if it's

1043
00:45:53,000 --> 00:45:54,279
Speaker 1: something they do after the Bible.

1044
00:45:54,520 --> 00:45:57,759
Speaker 2: Yeah. Look, I think that he's been upfront about all

1045
00:45:57,800 --> 00:46:00,040
Speaker 2: of it, that it's a competition every single week. I

1046
00:46:00,040 --> 00:46:02,360
Speaker 2: thought we might see Jamari out there at left tackle,

1047
00:46:02,480 --> 00:46:04,400
Speaker 2: you know, but maybe Deculus was just a little bit

1048
00:46:04,440 --> 00:46:07,000
Speaker 2: better in practice and that's why he got the call.

1049
00:46:07,080 --> 00:46:09,120
Speaker 2: He ended up, you know, they gave him a lot

1050
00:46:09,160 --> 00:46:11,080
Speaker 2: of help. Yet there was still I think six pressures

1051
00:46:11,080 --> 00:46:12,720
Speaker 2: over there and a couple of sacks that were allowed

1052
00:46:12,719 --> 00:46:14,839
Speaker 2: from the left side. Trey I thought played pretty well

1053
00:46:15,239 --> 00:46:17,960
Speaker 2: on the right side. Becton, it was he did not

1054
00:46:18,040 --> 00:46:21,000
Speaker 2: look like himself. It was probably I think his his

1055
00:46:21,120 --> 00:46:23,520
Speaker 2: roughest game out there, and you just wonder if the

1056
00:46:23,600 --> 00:46:25,759
Speaker 2: knee wasn't quite ready, but he toughed it out, you know,

1057
00:46:25,880 --> 00:46:27,399
Speaker 2: to try to just get out there, and he played

1058
00:46:27,400 --> 00:46:29,160
Speaker 2: the whole game. So I credit him for that, but

1059
00:46:29,480 --> 00:46:31,000
Speaker 2: it was a bit of a rough go for him.

1060
00:46:31,080 --> 00:46:34,399
Speaker 2: Zion played well, so if you can get Hopefully it's

1061
00:46:34,440 --> 00:46:36,719
Speaker 2: another week and Makai's not on the injury I don't

1062
00:46:36,719 --> 00:46:38,560
Speaker 2: think he's on the injury report. I don't remember seeing him.

1063
00:46:39,360 --> 00:46:41,319
Speaker 1: I don't know. I mean, I know he practiced. It

1064
00:46:41,360 --> 00:46:42,960
Speaker 1: was not a DNP if it was anything.

1065
00:46:43,040 --> 00:46:44,520
Speaker 2: Yeah, so here we go, pull it up. I had

1066
00:46:44,520 --> 00:46:48,520
Speaker 2: it from yesterday. Yeah, Makai's not on there. So the

1067
00:46:48,560 --> 00:46:50,440
Speaker 2: hope is that that knee is now good and we'll

1068
00:46:50,440 --> 00:46:52,239
Speaker 2: see him look like he looked, you know, in those

1069
00:46:52,280 --> 00:46:54,000
Speaker 2: first few games of the season when he was really

1070
00:46:54,040 --> 00:46:58,959
Speaker 2: dominant and playing really good football. So I guess, yeah, Penny,

1071
00:46:59,120 --> 00:47:01,279
Speaker 2: maybe that's enough time to take him set. Look, one

1072
00:47:01,280 --> 00:47:02,960
Speaker 2: thing we know about Trevor's Yeah, it's been some there.

1073
00:47:03,040 --> 00:47:05,120
Speaker 2: There were some issues in the past blocking, but for

1074
00:47:05,160 --> 00:47:07,080
Speaker 2: a while there's a really good run blocker, and we

1075
00:47:07,160 --> 00:47:09,000
Speaker 2: know how important to just keep this thing balanced. And hey,

1076
00:47:09,000 --> 00:47:11,120
Speaker 2: you don't want Justin to get hit, well, make sure

1077
00:47:11,160 --> 00:47:13,080
Speaker 2: it doesn't have the ball, give it the Kimani and

1078
00:47:13,440 --> 00:47:16,840
Speaker 2: and let him get hit. Yeah, the sorry q mo Oni.

1079
00:47:17,040 --> 00:47:20,799
Speaker 1: The quick passes that Greg Roman implemented as a as

1080
00:47:20,840 --> 00:47:23,319
Speaker 1: a game plan for the Pittsburgh game was awesome, But uh,

1081
00:47:23,719 --> 00:47:26,080
Speaker 1: I think the last seven eight games of the year,

1082
00:47:26,280 --> 00:47:27,799
Speaker 1: especially if you can get the next two and get

1083
00:47:27,800 --> 00:47:30,560
Speaker 1: the nine and three again, we can look ahead. These

1084
00:47:30,600 --> 00:47:34,480
Speaker 1: guys have have the focus on Jacksonville, but just figuring

1085
00:47:34,520 --> 00:47:37,239
Speaker 1: out the offensive line down the stretch, like find the

1086
00:47:37,239 --> 00:47:40,000
Speaker 1: best five as you get to January and hopefully you

1087
00:47:40,000 --> 00:47:42,719
Speaker 1: get to the playoffs. But this will be a very

1088
00:47:42,760 --> 00:47:47,160
Speaker 1: important stretch for that unit specifically, because that's the unit

1089
00:47:47,200 --> 00:47:49,360
Speaker 1: that I think is going to tell you whether or

1090
00:47:49,400 --> 00:47:51,719
Speaker 1: not you're gonna win football games in the postseason.

1091
00:47:51,800 --> 00:47:54,160
Speaker 2: Yeah, I think I would just you know, I'd wrap

1092
00:47:54,239 --> 00:47:58,000
Speaker 2: with this, and it's that, you know, this team is

1093
00:47:58,280 --> 00:48:00,839
Speaker 2: very reminiscent of what we saw last next year. And

1094
00:48:00,880 --> 00:48:03,200
Speaker 2: it's not just because they were playing the Steelers that

1095
00:48:03,239 --> 00:48:05,120
Speaker 2: it looked like Steelers football. And that's what we have

1096
00:48:05,120 --> 00:48:06,359
Speaker 2: to do to win this game. I just think that's

1097
00:48:06,400 --> 00:48:09,040
Speaker 2: what you're gonna see because the defense is playing at

1098
00:48:09,200 --> 00:48:12,240
Speaker 2: such a high level right now. You can't throw against

1099
00:48:12,239 --> 00:48:14,480
Speaker 2: this team. I mean the way the Corners are playing

1100
00:48:14,480 --> 00:48:16,320
Speaker 2: the way a lot now with Elijah Molden back, we

1101
00:48:16,360 --> 00:48:17,160
Speaker 2: hadn't even mentioned.

1102
00:48:17,000 --> 00:48:18,560
Speaker 1: Him by target may be coming back.

1103
00:48:18,640 --> 00:48:21,320
Speaker 2: Yeah, So, but like I just think with the physicality

1104
00:48:21,440 --> 00:48:23,759
Speaker 2: in the middle of the spine of that defense, the

1105
00:48:23,760 --> 00:48:26,400
Speaker 2: way I mean Elijah had some pops in that game,

1106
00:48:26,680 --> 00:48:28,520
Speaker 2: and when you start bringing that back and you could

1107
00:48:28,560 --> 00:48:32,319
Speaker 2: start to see that Steelers offense like twenty five to three,

1108
00:48:32,440 --> 00:48:34,319
Speaker 2: I mean, I think we're pretty good, right guys, We're

1109
00:48:34,360 --> 00:48:38,200
Speaker 2: like this is so I think you're starting to see that.

1110
00:48:38,440 --> 00:48:41,000
Speaker 2: And that's where you know it comes into play where

1111
00:48:41,000 --> 00:48:44,879
Speaker 2: you can with ten back there, you can overcome all

1112
00:48:44,880 --> 00:48:48,320
Speaker 2: these pressures, all these sacks. Just don't give them any freebies.

1113
00:48:48,680 --> 00:48:51,280
Speaker 2: And if you don't do that, they're gonna make mistakes.

1114
00:48:51,600 --> 00:48:53,680
Speaker 2: The defense is gonna give you some short fields or

1115
00:48:53,680 --> 00:48:55,400
Speaker 2: they're gonna flip the field and you're gonna get the

1116
00:48:55,400 --> 00:48:57,480
Speaker 2: ball right near midfield on a punt after a three

1117
00:48:57,480 --> 00:49:00,160
Speaker 2: and out, and that's how you're gonna win games like

1118
00:49:00,200 --> 00:49:02,839
Speaker 2: they did last year. I think whereas it they are

1119
00:49:02,880 --> 00:49:06,040
Speaker 2: now twenty I might have it on my board instead

1120
00:49:06,040 --> 00:49:08,200
Speaker 2: of here, but I want to say when they score

1121
00:49:08,280 --> 00:49:12,000
Speaker 2: twenty seven points, they are now eleven and zero since

1122
00:49:12,120 --> 00:49:12,640
Speaker 2: last year.

1123
00:49:12,719 --> 00:49:13,040
Speaker 3: Wow.

1124
00:49:13,400 --> 00:49:16,440
Speaker 2: So it's a defense that's been given up some points

1125
00:49:16,480 --> 00:49:19,160
Speaker 2: down there, and it's a defense for the Chargers that

1126
00:49:19,239 --> 00:49:21,560
Speaker 2: hasn't given up any points. Just a couple more quickly,

1127
00:49:21,640 --> 00:49:25,919
Speaker 2: like point nine touchdown passes per game is what they're

1128
00:49:25,920 --> 00:49:28,840
Speaker 2: allowing best in the NFL, and the Jags are scoring

1129
00:49:28,920 --> 00:49:31,200
Speaker 2: one point one twenty ninth in the NFL. So that

1130
00:49:31,239 --> 00:49:34,000
Speaker 2: matches up real nice. And I think it'll be another

1131
00:49:34,600 --> 00:49:37,080
Speaker 2: rock fight, you know, like we saw with the Steelers, like, hey,

1132
00:49:37,080 --> 00:49:38,600
Speaker 2: we're not We're just not going to give you anything.

1133
00:49:38,640 --> 00:49:40,239
Speaker 2: You're gonna have to earn it, and we don't think

1134
00:49:40,280 --> 00:49:41,680
Speaker 2: you can earn it against this defense.

1135
00:49:42,280 --> 00:49:44,719
Speaker 1: The Minnesota game was one thing, and then Tennessee was

1136
00:49:44,719 --> 00:49:46,960
Speaker 1: another because they're one of the worst teams in football.

1137
00:49:47,000 --> 00:49:49,800
Speaker 1: But to do it on that stage against the Steelers.

1138
00:49:49,840 --> 00:49:52,600
Speaker 1: I know Aaron Rodgers is older, but it almost kind

1139
00:49:52,600 --> 00:49:54,759
Speaker 1: of solidified to me money, which you kind of just

1140
00:49:54,800 --> 00:49:56,840
Speaker 1: alluded to. I think the defense is going to be

1141
00:49:56,880 --> 00:50:00,200
Speaker 1: the unit to carry the day down the stretch get

1142
00:50:00,200 --> 00:50:02,840
Speaker 1: to you know, you look at Denver. Denver's got a

1143
00:50:02,840 --> 00:50:06,080
Speaker 1: super Bowl caliber defense. They have some questions on offense. Yeah,

1144
00:50:06,120 --> 00:50:08,000
Speaker 1: the Chiefs. We know the Chiefs have a really good

1145
00:50:08,040 --> 00:50:09,880
Speaker 1: defense too, but you just you go down the AFC

1146
00:50:10,120 --> 00:50:13,479
Speaker 1: like I'd put the chargers up with defensively, no question,

1147
00:50:13,680 --> 00:50:17,640
Speaker 1: with anybody Ques and from the quarterback position, no question.

1148
00:50:17,719 --> 00:50:20,120
Speaker 1: It's like, okay, can we protect that quarterback? Can we

1149
00:50:20,160 --> 00:50:23,600
Speaker 1: get a mari and Hampton back? Because the a good

1150
00:50:23,640 --> 00:50:25,600
Speaker 1: running game is going to be even better for the defense.

1151
00:50:25,840 --> 00:50:27,120
Speaker 1: So I think there's a lot of things that we're

1152
00:50:27,120 --> 00:50:28,759
Speaker 1: going to see on the back half of this buy

1153
00:50:29,440 --> 00:50:32,319
Speaker 1: that will maybe paint a better picture as far as

1154
00:50:32,400 --> 00:50:33,120
Speaker 1: January's concerned.

1155
00:50:33,160 --> 00:50:35,279
Speaker 2: Yeah, I know Joe Ortiz doesn't want to hear me

1156
00:50:35,320 --> 00:50:39,440
Speaker 2: say it, but you know he's he's not TJ Watt,

1157
00:50:39,760 --> 00:50:43,160
Speaker 2: He's not you know, take your pick of pass rusher,

1158
00:50:43,200 --> 00:50:46,440
Speaker 2: Brian Burns, He's not you know, one of these household names,

1159
00:50:46,600 --> 00:50:50,760
Speaker 2: Nick Benito. But Tooley's tied for fourth. I think in sacks,

1160
00:50:51,120 --> 00:50:55,319
Speaker 2: Tooley's top five in pressures, Like he is a legitimate

1161
00:50:55,480 --> 00:50:58,120
Speaker 2: star on the defensive line, not to mention how good

1162
00:50:58,160 --> 00:51:00,600
Speaker 2: he is at helping other guys out and taken on

1163
00:51:00,640 --> 00:51:02,200
Speaker 2: double teams and then you kick him inside and that.

1164
00:51:03,719 --> 00:51:05,200
Speaker 1: How many do you think he has? Then I'd have

1165
00:51:05,200 --> 00:51:06,440
Speaker 1: to we have to tally it up.

1166
00:51:06,520 --> 00:51:09,960
Speaker 2: So I think when you know, even though it sounds like, oh,

1167
00:51:10,000 --> 00:51:11,200
Speaker 2: it's kind of a no name. You can't be a

1168
00:51:11,200 --> 00:51:13,319
Speaker 2: no name defense when Derwin James is out there. But

1169
00:51:14,120 --> 00:51:16,560
Speaker 2: you think about the secondary and how well cam Hart

1170
00:51:16,600 --> 00:51:19,720
Speaker 2: is playing, and you know, like Dante Jackson with the interception,

1171
00:51:19,800 --> 00:51:24,319
Speaker 2: like they're not necessarily it's not Sauce Gardener, you know,

1172
00:51:24,640 --> 00:51:28,759
Speaker 2: or or Stingley, but these are They're great players that

1173
00:51:28,880 --> 00:51:31,760
Speaker 2: fit the scheme and the scheme is executing, and that's

1174
00:51:31,880 --> 00:51:33,799
Speaker 2: I think it's to your point, you know, I think

1175
00:51:33,800 --> 00:51:37,800
Speaker 2: it's a better defense than the Chiefs defense. Broncos defense

1176
00:51:37,840 --> 00:51:41,200
Speaker 2: is sensational. But I think when you're talking about the

1177
00:51:41,239 --> 00:51:44,560
Speaker 2: top of the AFC and the Patriots and the Colts

1178
00:51:44,920 --> 00:51:47,360
Speaker 2: and the Broncos, and I don't have any question that

1179
00:51:47,440 --> 00:51:50,600
Speaker 2: when you factor in the yeah, yeah, how dominant this

1180
00:51:50,880 --> 00:51:53,640
Speaker 2: you know, since that issue they had against the Colts

1181
00:51:54,080 --> 00:51:56,080
Speaker 2: when they seem to have figured this thing out and

1182
00:51:57,120 --> 00:51:59,920
Speaker 2: you know, Khalil was back and healthy, I think you're

1183
00:52:00,000 --> 00:52:02,520
Speaker 2: absolutely right that this defense can carry you into the

1184
00:52:02,520 --> 00:52:05,880
Speaker 2: postseason and win you games in the tournament.

1185
00:52:06,239 --> 00:52:07,879
Speaker 1: Just real quick, I just want to get your thought

1186
00:52:07,880 --> 00:52:09,759
Speaker 1: before we get out of here on the running game

1187
00:52:09,800 --> 00:52:12,840
Speaker 1: and getting Amarian back, yeah, to pair with Kimani and

1188
00:52:12,920 --> 00:52:16,480
Speaker 1: how how much that will help the offensive line immeasurably.

1189
00:52:16,960 --> 00:52:20,759
Speaker 2: Immeasurably, Amarian was humming man. He was looking like one

1190
00:52:20,800 --> 00:52:23,480
Speaker 2: of the best three running backs in the league. I'm

1191
00:52:23,520 --> 00:52:26,040
Speaker 2: talking about like just that burst man in that Giants game.

1192
00:52:26,040 --> 00:52:28,560
Speaker 2: When you saw it and trucking guys and carrying three

1193
00:52:28,560 --> 00:52:31,960
Speaker 2: defenders for eighteen yards and then blowing one down the

1194
00:52:32,000 --> 00:52:35,120
Speaker 2: right sideline for fifty It's like, Yeah, that's who this

1195
00:52:35,160 --> 00:52:37,120
Speaker 2: guy is. He's going to run over you between the

1196
00:52:37,120 --> 00:52:39,879
Speaker 2: tackles and he's gonna run past you. You know if

1197
00:52:39,880 --> 00:52:42,680
Speaker 2: he's even he's leaving. It's like, that's a Marian. And

1198
00:52:43,200 --> 00:52:47,479
Speaker 2: now you don't get a relief with this belief pardon

1199
00:52:47,560 --> 00:52:50,800
Speaker 2: the rhyming that Kimani has. And now you've got another

1200
00:52:50,840 --> 00:52:53,880
Speaker 2: one two punch like they envisioned with Najia Harrison and Amaran.

1201
00:52:54,120 --> 00:52:56,480
Speaker 1: Yeah, the coaching deserves a lot of credit.

1202
00:52:56,640 --> 00:52:57,160
Speaker 2: It's been great.

1203
00:52:57,200 --> 00:53:00,359
Speaker 1: When you don't have all you don't have Slater, all

1204
00:53:00,440 --> 00:53:03,560
Speaker 1: the guys that went down on defense, Amarian goes down,

1205
00:53:03,680 --> 00:53:07,040
Speaker 1: Nausey goes down. Yet you're you're seven and three and

1206
00:53:07,120 --> 00:53:10,719
Speaker 1: six of one in the AFC with an opportunity to

1207
00:53:11,320 --> 00:53:13,160
Speaker 1: I mean, you read off those odds at the beginning

1208
00:53:13,160 --> 00:53:14,560
Speaker 1: of the year, man like or the beginning of the

1209
00:53:14,600 --> 00:53:17,839
Speaker 1: show ninety to make the playoffs. If you win this game, Yeah,

1210
00:53:17,920 --> 00:53:18,480
Speaker 1: it's pretty good.

1211
00:53:18,520 --> 00:53:21,239
Speaker 2: I mean, and again, you look at at Herberty's second

1212
00:53:21,280 --> 00:53:25,120
Speaker 2: in the league in yards, He's what sixth in yards

1213
00:53:25,120 --> 00:53:29,799
Speaker 2: per game, he is third in touchdowns, and yet he

1214
00:53:29,920 --> 00:53:33,960
Speaker 2: is taking He's taken thirty three sacks, you know, behind

1215
00:53:33,960 --> 00:53:37,000
Speaker 2: that offensive line, and that's the level that he's operating at,

1216
00:53:37,040 --> 00:53:39,480
Speaker 2: you know, a top five quarterback and MVP candidate in

1217
00:53:39,480 --> 00:53:41,319
Speaker 2: this league. And so a lot of that goes to him.

1218
00:53:41,840 --> 00:53:44,200
Speaker 2: His toughness, his ability to keep his nose in there

1219
00:53:44,200 --> 00:53:47,920
Speaker 2: and deliver passes, and the coaching staff to scheme this

1220
00:53:47,960 --> 00:53:50,520
Speaker 2: thing up and get these guys open downfield. So there's

1221
00:53:50,560 --> 00:53:52,320
Speaker 2: a payoff for him taking this punishment.

1222
00:53:52,600 --> 00:53:56,760
Speaker 1: How do you say, duval douval? Or do you go Duval?

1223
00:53:56,920 --> 00:53:59,200
Speaker 2: Oh? No, I definitely don't do that. That was creepy.

1224
00:54:00,080 --> 00:54:03,120
Speaker 2: He did, Man, it was super creepy. I don't say,

1225
00:54:03,120 --> 00:54:05,040
Speaker 2: I just I guess. I just say I think of

1226
00:54:05,120 --> 00:54:08,120
Speaker 2: Robert Duvall, you know, I just think of my concillieri,

1227
00:54:08,239 --> 00:54:10,439
Speaker 2: you know, I just think of Daval. Dude.

1228
00:54:10,440 --> 00:54:12,360
Speaker 1: I wanted to mention this really really quickly. I know

1229
00:54:12,400 --> 00:54:14,600
Speaker 1: we keep saying last thing, last thing, but Liam Cohen

1230
00:54:14,880 --> 00:54:17,000
Speaker 1: was the OC of the Bucks. Yes, they put up

1231
00:54:17,000 --> 00:54:20,040
Speaker 1: five hundred yards of offense on the Chargers last last year.

1232
00:54:20,120 --> 00:54:22,359
Speaker 1: Worst game of the year for that Jesse Menster.

1233
00:54:22,480 --> 00:54:24,319
Speaker 2: Yeah, it was the only game that looked like that,

1234
00:54:24,400 --> 00:54:28,239
Speaker 2: So don't forget about that. Yeah, and you know, Etn

1235
00:54:28,320 --> 00:54:31,600
Speaker 2: is a legit number one back. I know it seemed

1236
00:54:31,640 --> 00:54:33,000
Speaker 2: like they were trying to run him out of town,

1237
00:54:33,160 --> 00:54:36,719
Speaker 2: but he's he's an issue. There's talent on that team.

1238
00:54:36,880 --> 00:54:39,279
Speaker 2: I mean, they traded for Jacobe Myers. We know how

1239
00:54:39,320 --> 00:54:41,440
Speaker 2: good he is, and he has he finds a way

1240
00:54:41,480 --> 00:54:43,520
Speaker 2: to get open. Brian Thomas has just been it's been weird.

1241
00:54:43,520 --> 00:54:46,680
Speaker 2: He's had sixty targets and thirty receptions he's got I

1242
00:54:46,719 --> 00:54:49,200
Speaker 2: think he's second in the league in drops. So the

1243
00:54:49,280 --> 00:54:52,480
Speaker 2: talent's there is just not executing. So should we just

1244
00:54:52,480 --> 00:54:54,600
Speaker 2: be like, yeah, well why would they? You know, I

1245
00:54:54,600 --> 00:54:56,360
Speaker 2: think there's part of that that you could take that approach,

1246
00:54:56,440 --> 00:54:58,279
Speaker 2: or you could say, is it just doesn't really make sense.

1247
00:54:58,320 --> 00:55:03,759
Speaker 2: It's a decent offensive line. Yeah, so just show up.

1248
00:55:03,920 --> 00:55:05,760
Speaker 2: You can travel, you know, you can pack a defense

1249
00:55:06,320 --> 00:55:08,040
Speaker 2: and I'm the Charger. You gonna pack it, so I'm

1250
00:55:08,040 --> 00:55:09,320
Speaker 2: excited about this opportunity.

1251
00:55:09,400 --> 00:55:12,120
Speaker 1: I remember all the Charger fans there for that playoff game,

1252
00:55:12,680 --> 00:55:14,239
Speaker 1: so I'm sure he'll be compatable in the house.

1253
00:55:14,400 --> 00:55:16,279
Speaker 2: I wish you hadn't mentioned that, but hey whatever, you.

1254
00:55:16,239 --> 00:55:20,000
Speaker 1: Know, it's okay. It's redemption. Yeah, exactly, Redemption Sunday. All

1255
00:55:20,040 --> 00:55:22,120
Speaker 1: right for buddy. I'm Chris. This has been Chargers Weekly.

1256
00:55:22,360 --> 00:55:29,480
Speaker 1: We'll see you next week.