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What is going on everybody, John middlecot Three 10 00:00:43,680 --> 00:00:47,600 Speaker 1: and Out Podcast Tonight is a type night when you know, 11 00:00:47,600 --> 00:00:49,920 Speaker 1: I wish I had some kids, so instead of having 12 00:00:49,960 --> 00:00:52,960 Speaker 1: to watch the Browns and the Bengals, could have been 13 00:00:53,000 --> 00:00:55,520 Speaker 1: out of trick or treating, powering down some Reese's pieces, 14 00:00:55,880 --> 00:00:58,920 Speaker 1: powering down some Paydays, Milky Ways. Whatever your favorite Halloween 15 00:00:59,000 --> 00:01:02,440 Speaker 1: candy is, Happy Halloween. It would be Unamerican not to have. 16 00:01:02,760 --> 00:01:08,240 Speaker 1: I would say minimum twelve over under. I'll put the 17 00:01:08,240 --> 00:01:11,199 Speaker 1: over under it like ten and a half little mini 18 00:01:11,240 --> 00:01:13,920 Speaker 1: pieces of candy on Halloween night. Whether you got kids 19 00:01:14,000 --> 00:01:16,800 Speaker 1: or not, I mean, you better beating some candy. Hopefully 20 00:01:16,840 --> 00:01:19,440 Speaker 1: you had a good Halloween. Unless you're a Browns are 21 00:01:19,520 --> 00:01:21,880 Speaker 1: Bengal fan. If you're a Bengal fan, I mean you 22 00:01:21,920 --> 00:01:23,520 Speaker 1: don't want to witness that. If you're a Browns fan, 23 00:01:23,640 --> 00:01:27,320 Speaker 1: happy for you guys. You look good, Jacoby didn't kill you. 24 00:01:27,840 --> 00:01:30,840 Speaker 1: And uh, y'all want a big game Monday, that football 25 00:01:30,880 --> 00:01:33,800 Speaker 1: so you never complain. I don't care what your record 26 00:01:33,920 --> 00:01:36,560 Speaker 1: is about winning a Monday and that football game, because 27 00:01:36,720 --> 00:01:39,640 Speaker 1: well you could argue tonight, you know, unless you're like 28 00:01:39,680 --> 00:01:43,720 Speaker 1: over fifty. Anyone with kids under what's the age, probably 29 00:01:44,520 --> 00:01:48,000 Speaker 1: you know ten, Like my family stopped walking around with 30 00:01:48,040 --> 00:01:50,320 Speaker 1: me at like seven. But you know, times are a 31 00:01:50,320 --> 00:01:52,360 Speaker 1: little different in twenty twenty two. Depending on where you live. 32 00:01:52,360 --> 00:01:55,240 Speaker 1: You gotta keep your head on a swivel. So so, yeah, 33 00:01:55,360 --> 00:01:57,440 Speaker 1: Three and Out Podcast. Subscribe to the podcast. If you 34 00:01:57,480 --> 00:02:00,400 Speaker 1: listen on Collins Feed, subscribe to three and Out podcast. 35 00:02:01,080 --> 00:02:06,120 Speaker 1: Also Middlecoff Mailbag at John Middlecoff is the Instagram. Fire 36 00:02:06,160 --> 00:02:09,360 Speaker 1: in those dms and get your question answered here on 37 00:02:09,400 --> 00:02:14,800 Speaker 1: the show. Appreciate everyone listening, Appreciate everyone sharing volume YouTube page. 38 00:02:15,160 --> 00:02:17,480 Speaker 1: We put the podcast up on amp go up there 39 00:02:17,520 --> 00:02:25,800 Speaker 1: as well. And yeah, so let's dive into some football. Okay, 40 00:02:25,880 --> 00:02:29,320 Speaker 1: let's start with the Brownies and when we're looking at 41 00:02:29,400 --> 00:02:34,520 Speaker 1: the Cleveland Browns. All season long. I have struggled to 42 00:02:34,960 --> 00:02:38,280 Speaker 1: make harsh judgments on the Browns when it comes to 43 00:02:39,560 --> 00:02:44,280 Speaker 1: Kevin Stefanski and their situation, mainly because they've been playing 44 00:02:44,280 --> 00:02:47,480 Speaker 1: with Jacoby Brissette. And any time that you play with 45 00:02:47,560 --> 00:02:51,400 Speaker 1: Jacoby Brissette or just any backup quarterback for more than 46 00:02:51,480 --> 00:02:55,639 Speaker 1: one or two games, you're gonna lose because backup quarterbacks 47 00:02:55,800 --> 00:02:58,960 Speaker 1: are a major issue. There are backups for a reason 48 00:02:59,440 --> 00:03:05,040 Speaker 1: that they are not sustainable answers. And when we've seen 49 00:03:05,040 --> 00:03:09,120 Speaker 1: it this year, Jacoby has thrown back breaking interceptions. Now 50 00:03:09,520 --> 00:03:11,760 Speaker 1: I've said over and over I didn't agree with the trade. 51 00:03:12,520 --> 00:03:14,800 Speaker 1: That was not something that I would have done. When 52 00:03:14,840 --> 00:03:16,400 Speaker 1: you factor in the money, when you factor in the 53 00:03:16,440 --> 00:03:19,640 Speaker 1: draft picks, when you factor in everything that the Cleveland 54 00:03:19,680 --> 00:03:23,399 Speaker 1: Browns did, I think most people universally agree it was insane. 55 00:03:23,600 --> 00:03:26,720 Speaker 1: But they're the Browns. I mean, their owner Rob Trucker's like, 56 00:03:27,040 --> 00:03:29,520 Speaker 1: I'm sorry, I don't take them that seriously to begin with. 57 00:03:30,000 --> 00:03:33,280 Speaker 1: From an organizational standpoint. Now, when it comes to the 58 00:03:33,320 --> 00:03:35,960 Speaker 1: talent on their team, and you saw it tonight on 59 00:03:36,000 --> 00:03:38,720 Speaker 1: full display, we saw it last year going into the 60 00:03:38,720 --> 00:03:40,920 Speaker 1: season A lot of people picked them to compete for 61 00:03:40,960 --> 00:03:44,720 Speaker 1: the Super Bowl, but the problem was that Baker Mayfield 62 00:03:44,760 --> 00:03:47,560 Speaker 1: was a disaster and so when they big reason they 63 00:03:47,640 --> 00:03:51,040 Speaker 1: made that a Watson trade was because they had to 64 00:03:51,120 --> 00:03:53,400 Speaker 1: upgrade the quarterback position. Now they had to kind of 65 00:03:53,400 --> 00:03:55,600 Speaker 1: sell their soul to do it in two hundred and 66 00:03:55,600 --> 00:03:58,440 Speaker 1: thirty plus million dollars, but it happened. What are you 67 00:03:58,480 --> 00:04:01,960 Speaker 1: gonna do? And like it's it is. It's water into 68 00:04:01,960 --> 00:04:04,240 Speaker 1: the bridge. So there's nothing we could have moral stances 69 00:04:04,240 --> 00:04:06,000 Speaker 1: about it. But it's not gonna change. He's gonna be 70 00:04:06,000 --> 00:04:09,720 Speaker 1: the quarterback here after week eleven. But part of the 71 00:04:09,720 --> 00:04:11,400 Speaker 1: reason they were two and five coming to this game. 72 00:04:11,400 --> 00:04:13,480 Speaker 1: Now they're three and five, and a reason that they're 73 00:04:13,480 --> 00:04:15,960 Speaker 1: going to struggle to win on a weekly basis is 74 00:04:16,000 --> 00:04:18,000 Speaker 1: not because of the other players. They have one of 75 00:04:18,040 --> 00:04:20,039 Speaker 1: the best running backs, arguably the best running back in 76 00:04:20,040 --> 00:04:23,640 Speaker 1: the league. Miles Garrett is definitely the most talented pass rusher, 77 00:04:23,880 --> 00:04:27,279 Speaker 1: you know, boss up, you know, depending on some other guys, 78 00:04:27,320 --> 00:04:29,920 Speaker 1: like there are other elite players, you could argue he's 79 00:04:29,960 --> 00:04:34,000 Speaker 1: the best, and their dbs are really good. Amark Hooper's 80 00:04:34,040 --> 00:04:37,719 Speaker 1: a really good player. But ultimately, when you play with 81 00:04:37,720 --> 00:04:42,839 Speaker 1: your backup quarterback, like you're gonna struggle to sustain consistent play. 82 00:04:43,360 --> 00:04:47,120 Speaker 1: And you know, part of the reason that the Browns 83 00:04:47,279 --> 00:04:49,400 Speaker 1: like are not going to make the playoffs this year 84 00:04:49,560 --> 00:04:53,760 Speaker 1: is because they've played with Jacoby Brissette. So when it 85 00:04:53,800 --> 00:04:57,480 Speaker 1: comes to Cleveland judging him this season, I'm giving him 86 00:04:57,480 --> 00:05:01,320 Speaker 1: some sort of a pass. And it's it's weird, it's 87 00:05:01,320 --> 00:05:05,000 Speaker 1: a bizarre situation, but that is the Cleveland Browns. That 88 00:05:05,160 --> 00:05:07,360 Speaker 1: is the hand they were dealt when they made this trade, 89 00:05:07,360 --> 00:05:09,720 Speaker 1: and the dude got suspended for basically the entire season. 90 00:05:10,360 --> 00:05:14,240 Speaker 1: And no one can dispute their talent because you saw tonight. 91 00:05:14,320 --> 00:05:16,159 Speaker 1: Now we'll get into the Bengals here in a second. 92 00:05:16,640 --> 00:05:20,440 Speaker 1: That is a that's they got blue chip guys. Their 93 00:05:20,480 --> 00:05:23,479 Speaker 1: offensive line is excellent. I mean Nick Chubb. I was 94 00:05:23,520 --> 00:05:26,000 Speaker 1: talking to an exac earlier in the season and he 95 00:05:26,080 --> 00:05:29,200 Speaker 1: thought the two best running backs, you know, assuming that 96 00:05:29,279 --> 00:05:31,360 Speaker 1: Henry was going to fall off and he just ironically 97 00:05:31,360 --> 00:05:35,520 Speaker 1: just had two hundred plush yards were Taylor in Indy 98 00:05:35,680 --> 00:05:38,960 Speaker 1: and Nick Chubb. You watch him the night you go listen, 99 00:05:39,000 --> 00:05:41,680 Speaker 1: I haven't. I refused to watch Indianapolis that that is, 100 00:05:42,279 --> 00:05:45,039 Speaker 1: I'd rather watch fucking paint dry than watch Frank and 101 00:05:45,040 --> 00:05:49,360 Speaker 1: the Colts play football. But listen, Jonathan Taylor is a stud. 102 00:05:49,800 --> 00:05:51,800 Speaker 1: But you can't tell me he's better than what we 103 00:05:51,920 --> 00:05:54,880 Speaker 1: just witnessed that guy, because to me, that guy's the 104 00:05:54,880 --> 00:05:58,120 Speaker 1: total package. Now I'm not saying Taylor's worse than him, 105 00:05:58,160 --> 00:06:00,799 Speaker 1: but I don't think right now in the NFL eighty 106 00:06:00,839 --> 00:06:03,520 Speaker 1: one is better than Nick Jubb. But the problem is 107 00:06:03,520 --> 00:06:07,400 Speaker 1: when your quarterback throws backbreaking interceptions in the fourth quarter, 108 00:06:07,839 --> 00:06:09,960 Speaker 1: you know you're two and five or now you're three 109 00:06:09,960 --> 00:06:12,800 Speaker 1: and five. You know, instead of being you know, if 110 00:06:12,839 --> 00:06:15,159 Speaker 1: you just had solid quarterback play, that's a five and 111 00:06:15,160 --> 00:06:16,640 Speaker 1: three team. And I know a lot of people get 112 00:06:16,720 --> 00:06:19,279 Speaker 1: very mad at Stefanski, get mad at the play calling. 113 00:06:19,640 --> 00:06:23,320 Speaker 1: It's understandable, but it's hard to overcome. I don't care 114 00:06:23,320 --> 00:06:25,440 Speaker 1: if you've got Bill Walsh, I don't care. If you've 115 00:06:25,440 --> 00:06:27,800 Speaker 1: got Bill Parcels, I don't care. I've seen it with 116 00:06:27,839 --> 00:06:31,400 Speaker 1: Kyle Shanahan when he's had to play with backup quarterbacks 117 00:06:31,440 --> 00:06:34,920 Speaker 1: in years past. He loses. It just happens over and over. 118 00:06:35,000 --> 00:06:37,600 Speaker 1: It's one thing, a one off game. You can win 119 00:06:37,640 --> 00:06:40,400 Speaker 1: a one off game with a backup quarterback. You cannot 120 00:06:40,400 --> 00:06:42,640 Speaker 1: win a month full of games. You can't win two 121 00:06:42,640 --> 00:06:45,040 Speaker 1: months full of games. You can't win eleven games. I 122 00:06:45,080 --> 00:06:48,120 Speaker 1: don't care who's on your team. And speaking of the Bengals, 123 00:06:48,160 --> 00:06:51,440 Speaker 1: like tonight, I thought was a pretty big reflection of 124 00:06:51,480 --> 00:06:55,000 Speaker 1: their coach. You know, when you lose Jabbar Chase, who 125 00:06:55,080 --> 00:06:56,839 Speaker 1: is the second best player in your team, and tonight 126 00:06:56,839 --> 00:06:59,160 Speaker 1: and honestly looked like he's the best player on their team, 127 00:06:59,200 --> 00:07:02,719 Speaker 1: it's a huge blow. It is hard to overcome star 128 00:07:03,240 --> 00:07:06,280 Speaker 1: impact skill guys. And I looked at the stats the 129 00:07:06,320 --> 00:07:08,080 Speaker 1: last two weeks. I mean, if you watched him against 130 00:07:08,080 --> 00:07:11,280 Speaker 1: the Saints, was that two weeks ago or one week ago? 131 00:07:11,320 --> 00:07:14,480 Speaker 1: I forget within the last two weeks. I mean he's 132 00:07:14,480 --> 00:07:16,600 Speaker 1: had fifteen catches, two hundred and sixty yards and four 133 00:07:16,640 --> 00:07:19,200 Speaker 1: touchdowns the last two weeks. I mean he's been a 134 00:07:19,200 --> 00:07:23,280 Speaker 1: man amongst boys. And he's been like that really since 135 00:07:23,280 --> 00:07:25,440 Speaker 1: he's shown up, really since we saw him at LSU. 136 00:07:26,640 --> 00:07:28,560 Speaker 1: And when you're missing a guy like that, it's on 137 00:07:28,600 --> 00:07:32,880 Speaker 1: your coach to scheme up the offense because you're gonna 138 00:07:32,920 --> 00:07:36,680 Speaker 1: need other guys to take on a bigger load than 139 00:07:36,720 --> 00:07:41,520 Speaker 1: they're used to taking on. And tonight their head coach 140 00:07:41,600 --> 00:07:45,040 Speaker 1: was unable to do that. Their offensive line was putrid 141 00:07:45,240 --> 00:07:49,280 Speaker 1: and Burrow was not that great. But also he was 142 00:07:49,320 --> 00:07:53,120 Speaker 1: getting peppered. I mean, Miles Garrett was in his ass 143 00:07:53,160 --> 00:07:57,640 Speaker 1: every single snap. They had pressure all over him all 144 00:07:57,800 --> 00:08:00,960 Speaker 1: night long. And to me, when you're going up against 145 00:08:01,000 --> 00:08:04,680 Speaker 1: the Browns and that pass rush and Jamar Chase is 146 00:08:04,720 --> 00:08:06,880 Speaker 1: not there for you, for him and Borrow just to 147 00:08:06,960 --> 00:08:11,240 Speaker 1: kind of play backyard football, that's on you to scheme 148 00:08:11,240 --> 00:08:15,400 Speaker 1: it up, like have have some plays in your bag 149 00:08:15,480 --> 00:08:18,800 Speaker 1: that they don't see coming. Get him some easy completions, 150 00:08:19,760 --> 00:08:23,880 Speaker 1: have a plan to neutralize a dominant front. It's got 151 00:08:23,880 --> 00:08:27,360 Speaker 1: to get rid of the football quickly and clearly. Zach Taylor, 152 00:08:27,440 --> 00:08:30,240 Speaker 1: who I think in a lot of circles is viewed 153 00:08:30,240 --> 00:08:32,520 Speaker 1: as not a very good coach, which is kind of 154 00:08:32,520 --> 00:08:34,920 Speaker 1: crazy to think that he was just the head coach 155 00:08:35,360 --> 00:08:37,760 Speaker 1: of a team that was in the Super Bowl and 156 00:08:37,800 --> 00:08:40,240 Speaker 1: most people don't think he's any good. And I thought 157 00:08:40,280 --> 00:08:43,760 Speaker 1: tonight is a good example why It's one thing to lose. 158 00:08:44,120 --> 00:08:46,880 Speaker 1: You're on the road Monday night football against a division rival, 159 00:08:47,320 --> 00:08:50,800 Speaker 1: even if Jacoby said is is their quarterback. It's another 160 00:08:50,800 --> 00:08:53,840 Speaker 1: thing to get your ass kicked and tonight they got 161 00:08:54,480 --> 00:08:57,040 Speaker 1: they got molly wopped. I mean, they got embarrassed, they 162 00:08:57,080 --> 00:09:00,680 Speaker 1: got clowned on national television. And to me, that's a 163 00:09:00,720 --> 00:09:04,160 Speaker 1: reflection of the coach when you are unprepared, when you 164 00:09:04,200 --> 00:09:08,000 Speaker 1: show up lifeless and you have zero answers to anything. 165 00:09:08,920 --> 00:09:11,400 Speaker 1: I don't blame him for not being able to tackle 166 00:09:11,480 --> 00:09:14,920 Speaker 1: Nick Chubb like that's he's the head coach and the 167 00:09:14,960 --> 00:09:18,000 Speaker 1: defense is on like it's under his umbrella. But he 168 00:09:18,120 --> 00:09:20,880 Speaker 1: is the offensive play caller, and I'm judging him on 169 00:09:21,320 --> 00:09:24,920 Speaker 1: scheming some plays for some random guys when Jamar Chase 170 00:09:25,000 --> 00:09:27,360 Speaker 1: is nowhere to be found. And I also think that's 171 00:09:27,400 --> 00:09:30,360 Speaker 1: a reflection of the Bengals a little bit, like I'm 172 00:09:30,400 --> 00:09:33,280 Speaker 1: not I know, social media is killing Joe Burrow acting 173 00:09:33,320 --> 00:09:35,480 Speaker 1: like he's some scrub. Joe Burrow can play for my 174 00:09:35,520 --> 00:09:37,760 Speaker 1: team any day of the week. But when you have 175 00:09:37,800 --> 00:09:40,959 Speaker 1: an average coach and you're missing what looks like a 176 00:09:41,320 --> 00:09:42,719 Speaker 1: guy that's got a chance to be like an all 177 00:09:42,760 --> 00:09:47,040 Speaker 1: time great wide receiver, you need some help. And when 178 00:09:47,040 --> 00:09:49,200 Speaker 1: I say help, the help comes from the coaching staff. 179 00:09:49,760 --> 00:09:52,000 Speaker 1: And I think it's fair to say that I just 180 00:09:52,040 --> 00:09:55,280 Speaker 1: don't see it. Zach Taylor. I never really have their 181 00:09:55,320 --> 00:09:58,120 Speaker 1: offensive line. They paid all this money, they invested in guys, 182 00:09:58,120 --> 00:10:01,600 Speaker 1: they drafted guys, and you watch him most weeks. They 183 00:10:01,640 --> 00:10:05,600 Speaker 1: look pretty shitty. They do not look good. And this 184 00:10:05,720 --> 00:10:08,680 Speaker 1: is like, that's the highest end type guy you're gonna see, 185 00:10:09,000 --> 00:10:11,280 Speaker 1: but you can watch him play random teams and Brow's 186 00:10:11,360 --> 00:10:14,000 Speaker 1: kind of scrambling for his life. It feels a little 187 00:10:14,040 --> 00:10:16,480 Speaker 1: bit like and ironically, his comp coming out of college 188 00:10:16,480 --> 00:10:21,120 Speaker 1: I thought was Tony Romo, and Tony Romo early on 189 00:10:21,200 --> 00:10:23,560 Speaker 1: his career, did not have a great offensive line. Tony 190 00:10:23,640 --> 00:10:26,800 Speaker 1: Romo used to run around for dear life to you know, 191 00:10:26,880 --> 00:10:29,960 Speaker 1: avoid pass rushers, and that kind of feels what Joe 192 00:10:30,000 --> 00:10:33,199 Speaker 1: Burrow has to do. Joe Burrow has to be like Superman, 193 00:10:34,000 --> 00:10:36,679 Speaker 1: and he's lucky. They made the right decision when a 194 00:10:36,720 --> 00:10:38,680 Speaker 1: lot of us thought they should take the offensive lineman, 195 00:10:38,840 --> 00:10:42,920 Speaker 1: they took Jamar Chase. That was the right decision. But 196 00:10:44,840 --> 00:10:49,600 Speaker 1: when he's not around and injuries happen, like sometimes DeVante 197 00:10:49,640 --> 00:10:53,280 Speaker 1: Adams missed some games with Aaron Rodgers. Aaron Rodgers, you know, 198 00:10:53,320 --> 00:10:55,679 Speaker 1: and Matt Laflour and Mike McCarthy over the years were 199 00:10:55,800 --> 00:10:58,160 Speaker 1: able to figure out how to win games without Devantae 200 00:10:58,200 --> 00:11:01,640 Speaker 1: Adams not this year in previous years, because there's a 201 00:11:01,640 --> 00:11:04,400 Speaker 1: difference than just losing a player for the season and 202 00:11:04,480 --> 00:11:07,760 Speaker 1: having a guy miss a game to a three week stretch. 203 00:11:08,000 --> 00:11:11,960 Speaker 1: That's part of football. And to me, if you tell 204 00:11:12,040 --> 00:11:17,200 Speaker 1: me Jamar Chase is out a several weeks, the Bengals 205 00:11:17,200 --> 00:11:20,560 Speaker 1: will lose every game, or at least they are susceptible 206 00:11:20,640 --> 00:11:23,840 Speaker 1: to losing to every single team they play without Jamar 207 00:11:23,920 --> 00:11:28,520 Speaker 1: Chase like that is a massive, massive blow for the 208 00:11:28,559 --> 00:11:34,079 Speaker 1: Bengals and Zach Taylor. Man, I you know, I don't know. Now. 209 00:11:34,160 --> 00:11:37,160 Speaker 1: The Bengals, you know, aren't exactly some team that's gonna 210 00:11:37,160 --> 00:11:40,320 Speaker 1: be sniffing around for Sean Payton. But can you imagine 211 00:11:40,360 --> 00:11:45,640 Speaker 1: John Payton with Joe Burrow Jamar Chase. I can. 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Obviously it's in the majority of his winning 246 00:13:38,000 --> 00:13:40,400 Speaker 1: with New England and specifically Tom Brady. And I know, 247 00:13:40,960 --> 00:13:43,320 Speaker 1: did I get a lot? A lot would be strong. 248 00:13:43,720 --> 00:13:45,439 Speaker 1: It's like, you know, when you see a controversy on 249 00:13:45,480 --> 00:13:48,560 Speaker 1: the Internet, like a lot of blowback? What seven tweets? 250 00:13:48,960 --> 00:13:52,200 Speaker 1: That's your classic new media thing, Like there's a lot 251 00:13:52,200 --> 00:13:55,240 Speaker 1: of controversy. Yeah, because eighteen people on the Internet are 252 00:13:55,280 --> 00:13:58,760 Speaker 1: pissed off. No one actually gives a shit. But I 253 00:13:58,800 --> 00:14:01,880 Speaker 1: do think it's fair if you hate Belichick, that you 254 00:14:01,960 --> 00:14:04,760 Speaker 1: debate that he's a little overrated in the sense that 255 00:14:04,760 --> 00:14:07,200 Speaker 1: he could only do it with Tom. Now is Bill 256 00:14:07,200 --> 00:14:10,000 Speaker 1: Walsh winning anything without Joe Montana. Part of being a 257 00:14:10,000 --> 00:14:13,480 Speaker 1: good coach is having an elite quarterback, and Parcels was 258 00:14:13,480 --> 00:14:15,960 Speaker 1: really the one guy who had the greatest defensive player 259 00:14:16,000 --> 00:14:17,560 Speaker 1: of all time, and Belichick was a part of that. 260 00:14:17,880 --> 00:14:20,920 Speaker 1: And remember, if you've watched The Two Bills, the documentary 261 00:14:21,920 --> 00:14:26,000 Speaker 1: on the thirty for thirty, Parcels basically gave Belichick the 262 00:14:26,000 --> 00:14:30,000 Speaker 1: credit for scheming the defense against I don't know, the 263 00:14:30,040 --> 00:14:33,520 Speaker 1: greatest offensive all time in Bill Walsh and Joe Montana 264 00:14:33,600 --> 00:14:36,120 Speaker 1: and slowing them down. Pretty sure that the game plan 265 00:14:36,280 --> 00:14:38,560 Speaker 1: is in the Hall of Fame. So I hold Belichick 266 00:14:38,600 --> 00:14:40,880 Speaker 1: to a very high regard. Now some people push back 267 00:14:41,160 --> 00:14:44,600 Speaker 1: and they go all middle coffees just overrated. He needed Brady, 268 00:14:45,000 --> 00:14:48,000 Speaker 1: and I listen, I'm not disputing that him and Brady 269 00:14:48,040 --> 00:14:51,120 Speaker 1: weren't a match made in football heaven. You know that 270 00:14:51,160 --> 00:14:53,680 Speaker 1: they needed each other, just like Michael Jordan once upon 271 00:14:53,720 --> 00:14:57,560 Speaker 1: a time, I don't know, needed Phil Jackson like they 272 00:14:57,600 --> 00:15:01,040 Speaker 1: did well together, you know, And there's nothing wrong with that. 273 00:15:01,160 --> 00:15:04,440 Speaker 1: And I think sometimes we like Patrick Mahomes is a 274 00:15:04,520 --> 00:15:08,680 Speaker 1: fucking star, all time great quarterback, Andy Reid, all time 275 00:15:08,720 --> 00:15:11,280 Speaker 1: great coach, like they needed each other and there's nothing 276 00:15:11,320 --> 00:15:14,280 Speaker 1: wrong with that, and they're having a lot of success together. Now. 277 00:15:14,320 --> 00:15:17,480 Speaker 1: If Patrick went to some other team right now, there 278 00:15:17,560 --> 00:15:19,280 Speaker 1: is a chance that it would be easier for him 279 00:15:19,320 --> 00:15:21,440 Speaker 1: to win a Super Bowl than it would if he 280 00:15:21,520 --> 00:15:23,600 Speaker 1: just left coach Reid, and Coach Reid had to find 281 00:15:23,600 --> 00:15:28,080 Speaker 1: a quarterback. Why, it's very difficult. Now. Belichick picks every 282 00:15:28,080 --> 00:15:30,640 Speaker 1: single player with the team. So if you want to 283 00:15:30,680 --> 00:15:33,840 Speaker 1: be critical of his GM skills, I totally understand that 284 00:15:34,120 --> 00:15:36,440 Speaker 1: he has made picks over the years that are beyond 285 00:15:36,480 --> 00:15:40,760 Speaker 1: head scratching. And I disagreed with taking mac Jones at fifteenth. Overall, 286 00:15:40,880 --> 00:15:44,040 Speaker 1: now I understood they needed a quarterback, right you couldn't operate, 287 00:15:45,880 --> 00:15:49,760 Speaker 1: I believe, and I'll argue this till I'm six feet under. 288 00:15:50,440 --> 00:15:53,480 Speaker 1: To go seven and nine the year that they led 289 00:15:53,560 --> 00:15:57,120 Speaker 1: the league in people opting out of the season with 290 00:15:57,280 --> 00:16:01,320 Speaker 1: Cam Newton as their quarterback. Who couldn't it the broadside 291 00:16:01,360 --> 00:16:03,280 Speaker 1: of a barn. If he was standing on the top 292 00:16:03,320 --> 00:16:05,560 Speaker 1: of the horse, he wouldn't have been able to hit water, 293 00:16:05,600 --> 00:16:07,320 Speaker 1: if he was in the middle of the ocean. He 294 00:16:07,480 --> 00:16:10,840 Speaker 1: was god awful. And Belichick went seven and nine, and 295 00:16:10,880 --> 00:16:13,240 Speaker 1: then last year he won eleven and five. Or I 296 00:16:13,280 --> 00:16:14,880 Speaker 1: guess eleven and six now because I got a seventeen 297 00:16:14,880 --> 00:16:18,000 Speaker 1: games with Mac Jones. I did the math today. He 298 00:16:18,160 --> 00:16:21,200 Speaker 1: is fifteen and ten because he's four and four this 299 00:16:21,280 --> 00:16:23,600 Speaker 1: year and he was eleven and six last year. So 300 00:16:23,640 --> 00:16:27,080 Speaker 1: he's fifteen and ten with Mac Jones a starting quarterback 301 00:16:27,280 --> 00:16:30,320 Speaker 1: and Bailey's Appy mixed in there for a couple, Bailey's 302 00:16:30,360 --> 00:16:33,720 Speaker 1: Appy and Mac Jones. If I gave the majority of 303 00:16:33,760 --> 00:16:36,240 Speaker 1: coaches like to me, there is a short list of 304 00:16:36,240 --> 00:16:38,800 Speaker 1: guys that can compete with this roster. And again I 305 00:16:38,880 --> 00:16:42,880 Speaker 1: do not dispute that the roster being relatively average is 306 00:16:42,920 --> 00:16:45,880 Speaker 1: on Belichick. This is his doing. But he's such a 307 00:16:45,920 --> 00:16:49,640 Speaker 1: great coach. He is Matt Patrician, Joe Judge coaching his offense. 308 00:16:49,760 --> 00:16:51,960 Speaker 1: I mean, think about that, like the one thing I 309 00:16:52,040 --> 00:16:54,040 Speaker 1: will not pivot and I will take d L because 310 00:16:54,040 --> 00:16:55,760 Speaker 1: it's pretty clear the Patriots you're gonna get to like 311 00:16:55,800 --> 00:16:57,560 Speaker 1: nine or ten wins, and I thought they would be 312 00:16:57,560 --> 00:16:59,080 Speaker 1: five and six, and I'm gonna say over and over, 313 00:16:59,120 --> 00:17:02,360 Speaker 1: I was wrong on that and I underestimated how great 314 00:17:02,360 --> 00:17:05,520 Speaker 1: this guy is. But I will not pivot off Patricia 315 00:17:05,560 --> 00:17:07,720 Speaker 1: and Joe Judge because if you put those guys on 316 00:17:07,760 --> 00:17:10,560 Speaker 1: the street right now, there ain't a soul in Power 317 00:17:10,680 --> 00:17:13,520 Speaker 1: five and definitely the National Football League that's hiring Matt 318 00:17:13,520 --> 00:17:16,720 Speaker 1: Patricia to be their offensive coordinator and Joe Judge position coach. 319 00:17:16,760 --> 00:17:19,840 Speaker 1: You could argue whatever, but to be the quarterback coach. 320 00:17:20,040 --> 00:17:22,080 Speaker 1: I mean that's the most important position on your team, 321 00:17:22,240 --> 00:17:26,440 Speaker 1: especially with a young, young quarterback. So their offense isn't 322 00:17:26,480 --> 00:17:30,399 Speaker 1: that great, and partly because their quarterback stinks. Mac Jones 323 00:17:30,440 --> 00:17:33,119 Speaker 1: is a backup. And this isn't personal. He's probably a 324 00:17:33,119 --> 00:17:35,480 Speaker 1: good guy. He's like Bailey's Appy, probably a good guy. 325 00:17:35,560 --> 00:17:39,159 Speaker 1: Those guys are mediocre, average players, and to win in 326 00:17:39,200 --> 00:17:42,359 Speaker 1: the NFL when you have a mediocre average quarterback is 327 00:17:42,480 --> 00:17:44,679 Speaker 1: very impressive, and that speaks to how good you are 328 00:17:44,680 --> 00:17:47,080 Speaker 1: as a coach. It's why when he played the Jets, 329 00:17:48,000 --> 00:17:51,400 Speaker 1: I had someone around the Jets tell me, and this 330 00:17:51,480 --> 00:17:53,719 Speaker 1: number might be off, but basically, over a three year 331 00:17:53,760 --> 00:17:55,520 Speaker 1: period of time, they had eight or nine, you know, 332 00:17:55,600 --> 00:17:58,680 Speaker 1: high picks. That's like top seventy five picks, right they 333 00:17:58,680 --> 00:18:00,760 Speaker 1: made the trade for Jamal Adams, they had multiple first 334 00:18:00,840 --> 00:18:03,359 Speaker 1: round picks. They've had a bunch of Ammote high in 335 00:18:03,400 --> 00:18:06,800 Speaker 1: the draft. And he's like, you know, if we hit 336 00:18:06,880 --> 00:18:09,440 Speaker 1: on eight of the nine high picks and it looks 337 00:18:09,440 --> 00:18:11,480 Speaker 1: like they have, you know, we'll see Elijah Moore. It's 338 00:18:11,480 --> 00:18:14,600 Speaker 1: a little weird, but Bruce Hall's a stud. The dude, 339 00:18:14,640 --> 00:18:17,920 Speaker 1: Garrett Wilson's a stud. Their offensive line is really good, 340 00:18:18,040 --> 00:18:21,439 Speaker 1: like they've Sauce Gardeners a star. Like they're just banging 341 00:18:21,480 --> 00:18:24,639 Speaker 1: out picks. And the one pick we miss on is 342 00:18:24,680 --> 00:18:27,720 Speaker 1: Zach Wilson. We're in trouble and he's like on the 343 00:18:27,760 --> 00:18:31,200 Speaker 1: flip side. If we missed on every single one of 344 00:18:31,240 --> 00:18:34,119 Speaker 1: those guys. We missed on eight of the nine picks, 345 00:18:34,280 --> 00:18:37,040 Speaker 1: but the one pick we hit on is Zach Wilson. 346 00:18:37,640 --> 00:18:41,000 Speaker 1: Everyone here's getting extensions. And that's the way the NFL works. 347 00:18:41,400 --> 00:18:44,520 Speaker 1: It's a quarterback league, and the one coach or there's 348 00:18:44,600 --> 00:18:46,760 Speaker 1: very few, like Sean Payton kind of did it last year. 349 00:18:47,000 --> 00:18:49,800 Speaker 1: He played an NFL season with like seven different quarterbacks 350 00:18:50,000 --> 00:18:52,720 Speaker 1: and somehow won nine games. And if it wasn't for 351 00:18:52,880 --> 00:18:56,280 Speaker 1: this crazy comeback win for the forty nine ers, the 352 00:18:56,359 --> 00:18:58,680 Speaker 1: New Orleans Saints would have made the playoffs last year. 353 00:18:58,920 --> 00:19:02,439 Speaker 1: Playing games with Ian Book Taysom Hill Jamis for a 354 00:19:02,440 --> 00:19:04,760 Speaker 1: couple of games like that was insane what they did 355 00:19:04,840 --> 00:19:07,480 Speaker 1: last year, and they still won nine games. Like you 356 00:19:07,600 --> 00:19:10,240 Speaker 1: see Dan Campbell, like they got players on their team 357 00:19:10,359 --> 00:19:12,840 Speaker 1: and they're gonna win like three games this season. And 358 00:19:12,880 --> 00:19:15,840 Speaker 1: that was like Sean Payton's guy. So it's very, very 359 00:19:15,840 --> 00:19:17,640 Speaker 1: hard to win in the NFL when you have averaged 360 00:19:17,680 --> 00:19:20,680 Speaker 1: to below quarterback play like that. I'm not breaking news here. 361 00:19:21,080 --> 00:19:23,000 Speaker 1: And the Jets are a good example of they got 362 00:19:23,040 --> 00:19:25,480 Speaker 1: good players everywhere. Now, he'll they just lost a couple 363 00:19:25,480 --> 00:19:28,520 Speaker 1: of star players in Bruce Hall and Tucker and their 364 00:19:28,560 --> 00:19:31,960 Speaker 1: main problem is their quarterback. He's not that good. He's 365 00:19:31,960 --> 00:19:35,760 Speaker 1: not a reliable player. He doesn't play smart, Like when 366 00:19:35,840 --> 00:19:38,960 Speaker 1: you watch him play yesterday. I'm recording this on Monday, 367 00:19:39,000 --> 00:19:40,600 Speaker 1: so if you listen on Tuesday a couple of days ago, 368 00:19:41,040 --> 00:19:43,560 Speaker 1: it's like, what the fuck are you doing. It's just 369 00:19:43,600 --> 00:19:46,320 Speaker 1: like kind of basic stuff. Some of his picks. It's 370 00:19:46,320 --> 00:19:49,240 Speaker 1: one thing if you throw an interception, Like if you 371 00:19:49,320 --> 00:19:52,399 Speaker 1: watch games on Saturday and Sunday, sometimes a defensive player 372 00:19:52,400 --> 00:19:54,960 Speaker 1: will make an incredible play right, he'll fake go on 373 00:19:55,080 --> 00:19:56,800 Speaker 1: left and then he'll cut back right and he'll get 374 00:19:56,840 --> 00:19:59,320 Speaker 1: into a passing lane and pick the ball off. He'll 375 00:19:59,440 --> 00:20:02,200 Speaker 1: fake like he's dropping into coverage, he'll blitz and he'll 376 00:20:02,240 --> 00:20:05,400 Speaker 1: make a play. There was a pick that Trevor Lawrence 377 00:20:05,760 --> 00:20:08,920 Speaker 1: threw like on a rollout and he threw this BB 378 00:20:09,359 --> 00:20:11,840 Speaker 1: and the dB just like leaped up in the air. 379 00:20:11,960 --> 00:20:14,200 Speaker 1: It was it was like, you know, that's a pretty 380 00:20:14,200 --> 00:20:16,880 Speaker 1: good defensive play. And then there are balls that Zach 381 00:20:16,920 --> 00:20:20,560 Speaker 1: Wilson throws that like hit Devin mccordy in a stomach. 382 00:20:20,880 --> 00:20:23,919 Speaker 1: It's like, are you throwing it to the Patriots? And 383 00:20:24,000 --> 00:20:26,920 Speaker 1: the reason I love New England this week is not 384 00:20:27,000 --> 00:20:29,080 Speaker 1: because I think they have better players in the Jets. 385 00:20:29,520 --> 00:20:31,920 Speaker 1: I think they're probably pretty similar. If anything, the Jets 386 00:20:32,000 --> 00:20:35,480 Speaker 1: might even have more high end talent, especially more upside 387 00:20:35,480 --> 00:20:40,280 Speaker 1: guys at skilled positions. Like the Patriots don't have a 388 00:20:40,520 --> 00:20:43,520 Speaker 1: Garrett Wilson. You know, would they didn't. I guess they're 389 00:20:43,560 --> 00:20:47,800 Speaker 1: running their running backs pretty good, but the Jets have 390 00:20:47,840 --> 00:20:50,240 Speaker 1: a really good pass rush. Like, the Jets are really talented, 391 00:20:50,520 --> 00:20:54,879 Speaker 1: but their quarterback is just a major, major liability. And listen, 392 00:20:54,960 --> 00:20:58,679 Speaker 1: I'm not gonna write the guy's career off. Though I 393 00:20:58,720 --> 00:21:02,240 Speaker 1: know I have those friends that are scouting directors and 394 00:21:02,280 --> 00:21:04,560 Speaker 1: people in the NFL that told me I don't see it. 395 00:21:04,880 --> 00:21:07,600 Speaker 1: I never believed in it. And what I don't quite 396 00:21:07,680 --> 00:21:12,280 Speaker 1: understand is won that quarterback draft is looking very very questionable. 397 00:21:12,520 --> 00:21:14,800 Speaker 1: It's got a long way to go. But why the 398 00:21:14,920 --> 00:21:18,760 Speaker 1: Jets got so dead set on Zach Wilson. I'll just 399 00:21:19,000 --> 00:21:21,960 Speaker 1: never get it. And why, Like to me, Justin Fields 400 00:21:22,000 --> 00:21:24,000 Speaker 1: was the number two pick in that draft, like the 401 00:21:24,080 --> 00:21:27,280 Speaker 1: number two quarterback of the group, just because blue chip guy, 402 00:21:27,400 --> 00:21:30,240 Speaker 1: five star guy, the talent, Like, if I'm gonna mold 403 00:21:30,320 --> 00:21:32,640 Speaker 1: any of the other Cats, it was gonna be him. 404 00:21:32,680 --> 00:21:35,600 Speaker 1: They all were a work in progress. Yet somehow that 405 00:21:35,640 --> 00:21:38,639 Speaker 1: guy was, you know, the fourth quarterback off the board, right, 406 00:21:38,720 --> 00:21:41,240 Speaker 1: Zach Wilson. Then even Trey Lance like Kyle. If I 407 00:21:41,280 --> 00:21:43,239 Speaker 1: was Scott Shanahan, I would have taken Justin Field. Now 408 00:21:43,240 --> 00:21:46,120 Speaker 1: I understood taking Trey Lance, but I never quite got 409 00:21:46,119 --> 00:21:48,959 Speaker 1: the Zach Wilson. Not because he's not talented like you 410 00:21:49,000 --> 00:21:52,760 Speaker 1: see him roll out sling it. He honestly, he's kind 411 00:21:52,800 --> 00:21:56,440 Speaker 1: of got some Aaron Rodgers level talent. And I don't 412 00:21:56,480 --> 00:21:59,240 Speaker 1: mean as a player, I just mean physical abilities, his 413 00:21:59,280 --> 00:22:01,640 Speaker 1: ability to roll out, his ability to sling it from 414 00:22:01,640 --> 00:22:05,720 Speaker 1: different arm angles. But the ball does not go where 415 00:22:05,840 --> 00:22:08,680 Speaker 1: Aaron Rodgers throws it and he does not make good decisions. 416 00:22:08,720 --> 00:22:11,040 Speaker 1: So when you don't have those going for you, I 417 00:22:11,080 --> 00:22:13,600 Speaker 1: can't trust your accuracy, and two, I can't trust your 418 00:22:13,640 --> 00:22:16,240 Speaker 1: decision making. It's very hard to play football on Sundays, 419 00:22:16,520 --> 00:22:18,720 Speaker 1: and when you consistently do that, you get people fired, 420 00:22:19,080 --> 00:22:22,200 Speaker 1: because ultimately, if that quarterback play is poor, that's when 421 00:22:22,200 --> 00:22:24,560 Speaker 1: people lose their jobs. And I'm not saying Sala and 422 00:22:24,600 --> 00:22:26,959 Speaker 1: Joe Douglas are losing their jobs anytime soon. But if 423 00:22:27,000 --> 00:22:30,040 Speaker 1: this kid's a bust, I don't see how they overcome that. 424 00:22:29,880 --> 00:22:33,560 Speaker 1: That's gonna royally screw them. And then you know the 425 00:22:33,560 --> 00:22:37,720 Speaker 1: forty nine Ers and Rams game. I look back like, 426 00:22:37,800 --> 00:22:40,720 Speaker 1: obviously the Rams, I have no problem with them putting 427 00:22:40,760 --> 00:22:42,760 Speaker 1: all their chips in the middle of the table. They've 428 00:22:42,760 --> 00:22:46,760 Speaker 1: made aggressive trades and they've directly benefited from it. And 429 00:22:47,080 --> 00:22:49,280 Speaker 1: I say it all the time. I admire the shit 430 00:22:49,440 --> 00:22:52,280 Speaker 1: out of aggressive people because for the most part, in 431 00:22:52,400 --> 00:22:55,919 Speaker 1: most industries, aggressive wins. If you want to stay in 432 00:22:55,920 --> 00:22:59,320 Speaker 1: the slow lane, that's fine. You're gonna get past now 433 00:22:59,320 --> 00:23:01,080 Speaker 1: the people in the ass lane every once in a while, 434 00:23:01,119 --> 00:23:04,120 Speaker 1: depending on what happened, and they're given profession might get 435 00:23:04,160 --> 00:23:07,120 Speaker 1: in a car crash, but it's not like you're any 436 00:23:07,480 --> 00:23:09,240 Speaker 1: less likely to get into a car crash in the 437 00:23:09,240 --> 00:23:12,080 Speaker 1: other lanes. And the other thing is the majority of 438 00:23:12,119 --> 00:23:14,200 Speaker 1: the people in the fast lane when they do hit, 439 00:23:14,520 --> 00:23:16,840 Speaker 1: they shoot up like a rocket ship and look at 440 00:23:16,840 --> 00:23:20,040 Speaker 1: the ramps they have made. You know, they hang their 441 00:23:20,040 --> 00:23:22,920 Speaker 1: hat on f them picks. And they got Matt Stafford, 442 00:23:23,000 --> 00:23:24,880 Speaker 1: they won the Super Bowl. But even before that, when 443 00:23:24,880 --> 00:23:27,879 Speaker 1: they traded for Jalen Ramsey, like Jalen Ramsey's a stud, 444 00:23:28,320 --> 00:23:30,879 Speaker 1: that's a trade that every team in the league should 445 00:23:30,920 --> 00:23:35,080 Speaker 1: be interested in making, and they've benefited from it. But 446 00:23:35,200 --> 00:23:38,440 Speaker 1: when you do that, it puts a premium on your 447 00:23:38,560 --> 00:23:41,960 Speaker 1: other picks, right, the other picks that you have, especially 448 00:23:42,040 --> 00:23:44,960 Speaker 1: like there some years when they in twenty twenty two 449 00:23:45,320 --> 00:23:48,520 Speaker 1: twenty one, their first pick in those drafts were in 450 00:23:48,560 --> 00:23:52,080 Speaker 1: the second round and they missed on both guys. And 451 00:23:52,160 --> 00:23:55,080 Speaker 1: you can't afford to miss on the first pick you 452 00:23:55,119 --> 00:23:58,080 Speaker 1: have when you don't have a first rounder. Your margin 453 00:23:58,200 --> 00:24:01,159 Speaker 1: for error. And also part of making the trades for 454 00:24:01,200 --> 00:24:03,840 Speaker 1: Matt Stafford and for Jalen Ramsey as they had to 455 00:24:03,840 --> 00:24:06,640 Speaker 1: give them massive contracts. So when you make that trade, 456 00:24:06,640 --> 00:24:08,679 Speaker 1: it's a double whammy. I make the trade, so I 457 00:24:08,680 --> 00:24:11,800 Speaker 1: lose draft picks, and then I signed guys to huge contracts, 458 00:24:12,200 --> 00:24:16,040 Speaker 1: and in Stafford's case, I inherit his contract and then 459 00:24:16,080 --> 00:24:18,560 Speaker 1: I extend it like that takes my salary cap. So 460 00:24:18,600 --> 00:24:20,920 Speaker 1: it's a double whammy. And I got no problem doing that. 461 00:24:21,160 --> 00:24:23,280 Speaker 1: But when you do that, you have to take advantage 462 00:24:23,280 --> 00:24:25,879 Speaker 1: of your second and third round picks. Why because those 463 00:24:25,880 --> 00:24:28,919 Speaker 1: guys cap number is so small. And I look, in 464 00:24:28,960 --> 00:24:32,679 Speaker 1: twenty twenty they took cam Akers Well, now Sean mcvayh 465 00:24:32,680 --> 00:24:35,840 Speaker 1: hates the guy camp stand them, doesn't plan. And in 466 00:24:35,840 --> 00:24:38,359 Speaker 1: twenty twenty one they took two two at Well, a 467 00:24:38,440 --> 00:24:41,920 Speaker 1: speed wide receiver who does nothing. And when I watched 468 00:24:41,920 --> 00:24:45,760 Speaker 1: them play, the forty nine ers, their biggest flaw, like 469 00:24:45,800 --> 00:24:48,040 Speaker 1: their offensive line has always been a question mark. They 470 00:24:48,080 --> 00:24:50,960 Speaker 1: win ten to eleven games every single year. They won 471 00:24:51,000 --> 00:24:53,360 Speaker 1: the Super Bowl last year with an average offensive line 472 00:24:53,359 --> 00:24:55,840 Speaker 1: at best. So yeah, would you like the offensive line 473 00:24:55,840 --> 00:24:58,360 Speaker 1: to be better? Of course you would. The forty nine 474 00:24:58,440 --> 00:24:59,840 Speaker 1: ers went to a Super Bowl, and they went to 475 00:24:59,880 --> 00:25:03,919 Speaker 1: a NFC championship game with Mike fucking McGlinchey playing right tackle. 476 00:25:04,280 --> 00:25:07,800 Speaker 1: So if your offensive scheme is good, enough and your 477 00:25:07,840 --> 00:25:09,680 Speaker 1: play caller is good enough, and you have enough skill 478 00:25:09,760 --> 00:25:13,159 Speaker 1: guys around it, you can get her. You can, I 479 00:25:13,200 --> 00:25:15,320 Speaker 1: would say you can out scheme an offensive. Look at 480 00:25:15,359 --> 00:25:17,640 Speaker 1: the Bengals last year. They make it to the playoffs 481 00:25:17,680 --> 00:25:20,320 Speaker 1: with a bad offensive line. Forever. Google who's some of 482 00:25:20,320 --> 00:25:23,119 Speaker 1: the guys Peyton Manning played with it offensive line? Google 483 00:25:23,200 --> 00:25:26,160 Speaker 1: some of the guys Tom Brady played with it offensive line? Listen. 484 00:25:26,160 --> 00:25:28,800 Speaker 1: I'm a friend Wele State guy. I don't know him personally, 485 00:25:29,240 --> 00:25:31,520 Speaker 1: but I followed his career and he's now the long, 486 00:25:31,560 --> 00:25:34,400 Speaker 1: shaggy guy that sits next to Ken Dorsey in the box. 487 00:25:34,480 --> 00:25:36,960 Speaker 1: Last year he'd sat next to Brian Dable. His name 488 00:25:37,000 --> 00:25:39,560 Speaker 1: is Ryan Wendell. I think he's the assistant offensive line 489 00:25:39,600 --> 00:25:42,679 Speaker 1: coach for the Bills, and he's been. He's been with 490 00:25:42,680 --> 00:25:45,200 Speaker 1: Sean McDermott for a while. He started in a Super 491 00:25:45,240 --> 00:25:48,560 Speaker 1: Bowl Kyle d Van, who's also now an offensive line coach. 492 00:25:48,600 --> 00:25:51,639 Speaker 1: I think in the Pac twelve started with Peyton Manning 493 00:25:51,800 --> 00:25:54,240 Speaker 1: in a Super Bowl. Like these guys are fringe, like 494 00:25:54,320 --> 00:25:57,720 Speaker 1: practice squad guys. So you don't need Trent Williams in 495 00:25:57,800 --> 00:26:01,160 Speaker 1: every single position to make a run an offensive line, 496 00:26:01,400 --> 00:26:03,840 Speaker 1: but you can't afford to miss on your high draft 497 00:26:03,880 --> 00:26:06,359 Speaker 1: picks when you do not have first round picks, and 498 00:26:06,440 --> 00:26:08,840 Speaker 1: going to cam Akers and then a year later Sean McVeagh, 499 00:26:08,840 --> 00:26:11,240 Speaker 1: Hayton the guy and two two outwell who just does 500 00:26:11,280 --> 00:26:14,040 Speaker 1: nothing for you is kind of a disaster because if 501 00:26:14,080 --> 00:26:17,280 Speaker 1: you had just taken two players at whatever positions let's 502 00:26:17,280 --> 00:26:19,120 Speaker 1: say a tight end and let's say a dB, let's 503 00:26:19,119 --> 00:26:21,000 Speaker 1: say a pass rusher, and let's say a guard, and 504 00:26:21,040 --> 00:26:23,960 Speaker 1: those guys are just starters, they would have way more 505 00:26:24,119 --> 00:26:27,919 Speaker 1: depth on their team and they wouldn't feel is top heavy. 506 00:26:27,960 --> 00:26:30,160 Speaker 1: But they whipped on back to back second round picks. 507 00:26:30,200 --> 00:26:32,399 Speaker 1: And here's the other thing. I like Sean McVeigh. How 508 00:26:32,440 --> 00:26:35,160 Speaker 1: could you not. I mean, his resume speaks for itself. 509 00:26:36,040 --> 00:26:38,320 Speaker 1: But he learned in the Shanahan scheme, and I think 510 00:26:38,320 --> 00:26:42,040 Speaker 1: philosophically he likes throwing the ball more than most Shanahan guys, 511 00:26:42,040 --> 00:26:44,480 Speaker 1: which I'm for like I worked in the league under 512 00:26:44,480 --> 00:26:48,400 Speaker 1: Andy Reid, Like I'm pro throwing the football. But when 513 00:26:48,440 --> 00:26:51,159 Speaker 1: you have leads against other physical teams and you have 514 00:26:51,200 --> 00:26:53,879 Speaker 1: an inability to run the ball, you're gonna get in 515 00:26:54,000 --> 00:26:57,679 Speaker 1: precarious situations, especially when you have a quarterback who turns 516 00:26:57,680 --> 00:27:02,520 Speaker 1: the ball over a lot, and they're up fourteen nothing 517 00:27:02,600 --> 00:27:05,159 Speaker 1: against the forty nine ers in the second half, and 518 00:27:05,200 --> 00:27:06,760 Speaker 1: the Niners get the ball out of half and they 519 00:27:06,760 --> 00:27:09,080 Speaker 1: basically go three and out and the Rams get the 520 00:27:09,080 --> 00:27:11,879 Speaker 1: ball back. That is the type drive that you just 521 00:27:12,000 --> 00:27:15,000 Speaker 1: hand the ball off over and over and over and 522 00:27:15,160 --> 00:27:17,760 Speaker 1: bleed the clock out and extend to your lead. Instead, 523 00:27:17,800 --> 00:27:20,760 Speaker 1: they couldn't because they just naturally get pass happy. Why 524 00:27:21,200 --> 00:27:25,320 Speaker 1: because they're starting running back is Ronnie Rivers, who Fresno 525 00:27:25,400 --> 00:27:27,960 Speaker 1: State guy. I'm rooting for the guy. I watched the 526 00:27:27,960 --> 00:27:31,000 Speaker 1: guy in college play a lot. It never crossed my 527 00:27:31,080 --> 00:27:35,760 Speaker 1: mind once watching Ronnie Rivers play at Fresno State that 528 00:27:35,880 --> 00:27:38,399 Speaker 1: he would play on Sundays. Now, if you told me 529 00:27:38,400 --> 00:27:41,480 Speaker 1: he went to a training camp or was in OTAs, 530 00:27:41,560 --> 00:27:45,480 Speaker 1: I'd believe you. But be the starter for the defending 531 00:27:45,520 --> 00:27:49,440 Speaker 1: Super Bowl champs. I do not understand how the Los 532 00:27:49,440 --> 00:27:53,800 Speaker 1: Angeles Rams. Remember when Sean mcvayh became a star, his 533 00:27:53,920 --> 00:27:57,560 Speaker 1: starting running back was Todd Gurley, a freak talent, a 534 00:27:57,600 --> 00:28:02,120 Speaker 1: guy that was drafted tenth overall with a torn acl Now, ultimately, 535 00:28:02,160 --> 00:28:04,480 Speaker 1: as his career went, his knee gave out on him, 536 00:28:04,520 --> 00:28:08,560 Speaker 1: but Sean McVay became a transcendent coach and a name 537 00:28:08,640 --> 00:28:12,280 Speaker 1: that we all knew because his starting running back dominated 538 00:28:12,760 --> 00:28:15,520 Speaker 1: and ever since they've transitioned away from him, they have 539 00:28:15,720 --> 00:28:20,280 Speaker 1: not been able to replace that position, which ironically, in theory, 540 00:28:20,720 --> 00:28:24,760 Speaker 1: should be the easiest position to replace. The majority of 541 00:28:24,800 --> 00:28:27,600 Speaker 1: teams find guys in the fourth, fifth, sixth, seventh round. 542 00:28:28,080 --> 00:28:31,119 Speaker 1: Yet the Rams invested in Cam Akers, which I know 543 00:28:31,200 --> 00:28:32,960 Speaker 1: a lot of people around the league they really liked. 544 00:28:33,000 --> 00:28:35,520 Speaker 1: The guy has been a disaster and now the head 545 00:28:35,520 --> 00:28:37,520 Speaker 1: coach doesn't like them, and their inability to run the 546 00:28:37,560 --> 00:28:39,920 Speaker 1: ball is a big reason to me. They are a very, 547 00:28:40,000 --> 00:28:43,240 Speaker 1: very flawed team this year and in major, major trouble. 548 00:28:43,600 --> 00:28:45,880 Speaker 1: And on the flip side, well, I don't want to 549 00:28:45,920 --> 00:28:49,800 Speaker 1: call the Christian McCaffrey trade a success, but based on 550 00:28:49,840 --> 00:28:52,600 Speaker 1: his two games, and definitely the most important game that 551 00:28:52,600 --> 00:28:54,480 Speaker 1: he played in, which was a must win for the 552 00:28:54,520 --> 00:28:57,160 Speaker 1: forty nine ers, they could not go to the Buy 553 00:28:57,600 --> 00:28:59,840 Speaker 1: three and five. It would be their second straight year 554 00:29:00,040 --> 00:29:03,400 Speaker 1: in three and five, like the Bucks and the Packers. 555 00:29:03,960 --> 00:29:06,360 Speaker 1: It would have been a disaster because they don't have 556 00:29:06,440 --> 00:29:09,920 Speaker 1: Tom Brady Aaron Rodgers fall back on, and I can 557 00:29:09,960 --> 00:29:13,440 Speaker 1: be I can pick and choose my aggressiveness with trades, 558 00:29:13,480 --> 00:29:15,320 Speaker 1: like I like the Jalen Ramsey trade. I like the 559 00:29:15,360 --> 00:29:18,280 Speaker 1: Khalil mac trade. I struggled a little with the Christian 560 00:29:18,320 --> 00:29:21,320 Speaker 1: McCaffrey trade because of his position, but I think after 561 00:29:21,400 --> 00:29:23,760 Speaker 1: watching a couple of weeks of it, and specifically against 562 00:29:23,760 --> 00:29:26,520 Speaker 1: the Rams, where I don't know, he became the first 563 00:29:26,520 --> 00:29:29,760 Speaker 1: guy since LT to throw, run and pass for a 564 00:29:29,760 --> 00:29:32,560 Speaker 1: touchdown and only the third guy in NFL history to 565 00:29:32,600 --> 00:29:36,360 Speaker 1: do that. The other guy was Walter Payton. So two 566 00:29:36,440 --> 00:29:39,040 Speaker 1: of them, are you know? I mean, once consider argued 567 00:29:39,080 --> 00:29:41,400 Speaker 1: with the best running back of all time n LT, 568 00:29:42,280 --> 00:29:45,760 Speaker 1: the running back charger I think is considered one of 569 00:29:45,760 --> 00:29:48,720 Speaker 1: the great offensive playmakers of all time. I mean just 570 00:29:49,360 --> 00:29:51,480 Speaker 1: I mean, in my lifetime, he's one of the better 571 00:29:51,560 --> 00:29:55,640 Speaker 1: NFL players ever. So McCaffrey, when you play in a 572 00:29:55,680 --> 00:29:58,880 Speaker 1: smaller market and then the team sucks, you're out of side, 573 00:29:58,880 --> 00:30:01,520 Speaker 1: out of mine. You're irrelevant to most of us fans. 574 00:30:02,160 --> 00:30:04,840 Speaker 1: And like I wasn't watching him play the last couple 575 00:30:04,840 --> 00:30:07,840 Speaker 1: of years, neither were you. Neither was anyone because his 576 00:30:07,920 --> 00:30:10,600 Speaker 1: team sucked, and then when you factor and he was 577 00:30:10,640 --> 00:30:14,480 Speaker 1: injured a lot. I think part of me went this trade, 578 00:30:14,720 --> 00:30:17,560 Speaker 1: you're trading for a running back. But Kyle Shanahan said 579 00:30:17,560 --> 00:30:21,120 Speaker 1: it after the game to Albert Breer, like, we didn't 580 00:30:21,160 --> 00:30:22,920 Speaker 1: view him as just a running back. We viewed him 581 00:30:22,920 --> 00:30:25,840 Speaker 1: as an offensive player a lot like Debo. And the 582 00:30:25,880 --> 00:30:28,480 Speaker 1: thing with Debo is Debo would not work for the 583 00:30:28,520 --> 00:30:31,320 Speaker 1: majority of NFL teams because the majority of NFL offensive 584 00:30:31,360 --> 00:30:34,400 Speaker 1: coordinators would not be able to utilize his skill set. 585 00:30:34,800 --> 00:30:37,320 Speaker 1: He's not just running like goes and posts. Hell, he 586 00:30:37,480 --> 00:30:40,160 Speaker 1: can't really run those rounds. He's not a great route runner, 587 00:30:40,520 --> 00:30:42,360 Speaker 1: but he is one of the best pound for pound 588 00:30:42,880 --> 00:30:46,640 Speaker 1: NFL players in the league because his coach knows how 589 00:30:46,680 --> 00:30:49,720 Speaker 1: to utilize guys behind the line of scrimmage. Most young 590 00:30:49,800 --> 00:30:52,000 Speaker 1: coaches now get very pass happy. They don't want to 591 00:30:52,080 --> 00:30:54,760 Speaker 1: run the ball, and that's Kyle's is kind of addicted 592 00:30:54,800 --> 00:30:57,400 Speaker 1: to that. But he's also addicted to just making it 593 00:30:57,520 --> 00:31:01,320 Speaker 1: easy for his playmakers to touch the football. And you 594 00:31:01,360 --> 00:31:03,320 Speaker 1: saw that with Christian McCaffrey. So when you look at 595 00:31:03,360 --> 00:31:06,560 Speaker 1: that trade, second, third, and fourth and then a following 596 00:31:06,600 --> 00:31:10,120 Speaker 1: year's fifth, like, maybe it's not that crazy, especially when 597 00:31:10,120 --> 00:31:12,040 Speaker 1: you factory in they got a couple of third comp picks, 598 00:31:12,480 --> 00:31:15,040 Speaker 1: and part of the reason they did it was because 599 00:31:15,080 --> 00:31:16,920 Speaker 1: if they didn't include that fourth round pick, he was 600 00:31:16,960 --> 00:31:18,960 Speaker 1: going to go to the Rams. And if the forty 601 00:31:19,040 --> 00:31:21,880 Speaker 1: nine ers had not gotten aggressive on that trade and 602 00:31:21,920 --> 00:31:24,400 Speaker 1: he had gone to the Rams with Debo being out, 603 00:31:24,560 --> 00:31:26,920 Speaker 1: they lose that game. And they lose that game. Like 604 00:31:27,720 --> 00:31:29,320 Speaker 1: I don't want to say they're seasons over, but it 605 00:31:29,320 --> 00:31:31,600 Speaker 1: would feel pretty much over. I know they somehow made 606 00:31:31,600 --> 00:31:34,480 Speaker 1: the playoffs last year. At three and five, I think 607 00:31:34,480 --> 00:31:36,360 Speaker 1: you're defying logic. If you think you're gonna go back 608 00:31:36,360 --> 00:31:39,280 Speaker 1: to back seasons, start three and five and win ten 609 00:31:39,360 --> 00:31:42,160 Speaker 1: games like that would probably be out of the realm 610 00:31:42,160 --> 00:31:44,600 Speaker 1: of possibilities. But now they're four and four, they got 611 00:31:44,720 --> 00:31:46,920 Speaker 1: a bye week, They're gonna have Debo coming back. Can 612 00:31:46,960 --> 00:31:48,800 Speaker 1: you imagine once he figures out how to use Debo 613 00:31:48,920 --> 00:31:51,800 Speaker 1: and Christian McCaffrey to go along with Brandon Aiyuk and 614 00:31:51,880 --> 00:31:55,240 Speaker 1: George Kittle, good fucking luck. You know that that is 615 00:31:55,280 --> 00:32:00,480 Speaker 1: some serious firepower. And speaking of firepower, Derrick Henry, I 616 00:32:00,520 --> 00:32:03,160 Speaker 1: think running backs my favorite position, like the good ones, 617 00:32:03,160 --> 00:32:06,560 Speaker 1: because it encompasses everything the physicality of the sport. You 618 00:32:06,560 --> 00:32:09,920 Speaker 1: gotta run between the tackles, it takes like skill to 619 00:32:09,920 --> 00:32:13,200 Speaker 1: go outside the tackles and innate you know, instincts and 620 00:32:13,760 --> 00:32:16,320 Speaker 1: feel for space. You gotta be able to catch the ball. 621 00:32:16,360 --> 00:32:19,320 Speaker 1: You gotta be able to block. And Derrick Henry is 622 00:32:19,360 --> 00:32:21,760 Speaker 1: somewhat of a throwback. I mean, anyone my age or 623 00:32:21,800 --> 00:32:25,920 Speaker 1: older grew up with football. People ran the ball. I 624 00:32:25,920 --> 00:32:28,400 Speaker 1: mean I played high school football in the early two thousands. 625 00:32:28,560 --> 00:32:31,480 Speaker 1: We ran the wing tea, and the majority of teams 626 00:32:31,520 --> 00:32:35,600 Speaker 1: we played also ran the wing tea. When I worked 627 00:32:35,640 --> 00:32:39,080 Speaker 1: in college football in oh eight, so many teams ran 628 00:32:39,160 --> 00:32:42,720 Speaker 1: quote unquote pro style offenses, which meant you had a 629 00:32:42,760 --> 00:32:45,760 Speaker 1: fullback and you ran the ball. It really hasn't been 630 00:32:45,840 --> 00:32:48,960 Speaker 1: until that, since this last decade that we've become much 631 00:32:48,960 --> 00:32:51,640 Speaker 1: more of a spread, pass happy sport, which I enjoy. 632 00:32:51,760 --> 00:32:54,640 Speaker 1: I like watching Mahomes and some of these guys slinging around. 633 00:32:55,000 --> 00:32:56,680 Speaker 1: But I'm a sucker for a running back that I 634 00:32:56,760 --> 00:32:58,560 Speaker 1: just go, I'm gonna hop on your back and I'm 635 00:32:58,560 --> 00:33:02,600 Speaker 1: gonna ride you like Secretariat. And Derrick Henry became tied 636 00:33:02,720 --> 00:33:07,200 Speaker 1: OJ and Adrian Peterson for the most all time two 637 00:33:07,320 --> 00:33:10,880 Speaker 1: hundred yard games. Like that isn't It's more more two 638 00:33:10,960 --> 00:33:14,440 Speaker 1: hundred yard games and Barry Sanders than himt Smith. It's 639 00:33:14,480 --> 00:33:18,400 Speaker 1: an incredible accomplishment. And what Mike Vrabel does with Tennessee, 640 00:33:18,640 --> 00:33:21,280 Speaker 1: they have no business being good. They just won a 641 00:33:21,320 --> 00:33:24,080 Speaker 1: game with MALIEK Willis as their starting quarterback. Now I 642 00:33:24,160 --> 00:33:27,360 Speaker 1: understand they're playing the Titans, but a huge reason for 643 00:33:27,360 --> 00:33:31,280 Speaker 1: their success is a running back that, let's face it 644 00:33:31,360 --> 00:33:34,200 Speaker 1: fell to the second round because people went, no, this 645 00:33:34,240 --> 00:33:37,640 Speaker 1: isn't going to translate to the NFL. It hasn't just translated. 646 00:33:38,240 --> 00:33:41,320 Speaker 1: Like I mean, they make the playoffs again as an 647 00:33:41,320 --> 00:33:43,720 Speaker 1: eleven twelve win team and he has another big year. 648 00:33:44,000 --> 00:33:46,120 Speaker 1: I mean, we're talking about a Hall of Fame career, 649 00:33:46,520 --> 00:33:48,120 Speaker 1: not like a really good player. We're talking about a 650 00:33:48,240 --> 00:33:52,560 Speaker 1: Hall of Fame career. So Derrick Henry, Mike Vrabel. It's 651 00:33:52,600 --> 00:33:56,120 Speaker 1: just it's really really impressive. I'll say this about Tua, 652 00:33:56,160 --> 00:34:00,320 Speaker 1: who had a fantastic game statistically, who's twenty nine six 653 00:34:00,440 --> 00:34:02,800 Speaker 1: through three touchdowns and well over three hundred yards. Now 654 00:34:02,840 --> 00:34:04,920 Speaker 1: he was playing the Lions who just fired their dB coach. 655 00:34:06,040 --> 00:34:07,680 Speaker 1: I'm not a big too a guy, and I'm not 656 00:34:07,680 --> 00:34:09,319 Speaker 1: going to ebb and flow with every one of his 657 00:34:09,360 --> 00:34:11,080 Speaker 1: good games and every one of his bad games. I 658 00:34:11,120 --> 00:34:13,080 Speaker 1: stand where I stand. I wouldn't want him as my 659 00:34:13,080 --> 00:34:17,960 Speaker 1: starting quarterback, but I will say this about him. He's 660 00:34:18,000 --> 00:34:21,640 Speaker 1: a multiplier. People really like him. He gets a long 661 00:34:21,920 --> 00:34:25,080 Speaker 1: very well with this teammates. And there is something to 662 00:34:25,120 --> 00:34:29,160 Speaker 1: be said when you're an average talent about really resonating 663 00:34:29,200 --> 00:34:33,200 Speaker 1: with the building and having you know consistently they're best players. 664 00:34:33,280 --> 00:34:36,960 Speaker 1: Jalen water Waddle, Tyreek Hill like go to bat for 665 00:34:37,000 --> 00:34:40,520 Speaker 1: this guy, speak very very highly of him. And two 666 00:34:40,680 --> 00:34:42,480 Speaker 1: is never going to be a top ten quarterback. He 667 00:34:42,560 --> 00:34:45,520 Speaker 1: does not have the talent. But I remember, and I 668 00:34:45,560 --> 00:34:48,600 Speaker 1: think the best example of like an average talent they 669 00:34:48,640 --> 00:34:51,759 Speaker 1: became a really good player was Alex Smith. And he 670 00:34:51,840 --> 00:34:56,240 Speaker 1: benefited from two things. One he played with really good teams. 671 00:34:56,480 --> 00:34:58,839 Speaker 1: He was with good coaches with Jim Harbaugh and then 672 00:34:58,960 --> 00:35:01,520 Speaker 1: with Andy Reid, and he was surrounded by good teams. 673 00:35:02,520 --> 00:35:05,640 Speaker 1: But he was also beloved like his teammates wanted to 674 00:35:05,640 --> 00:35:08,600 Speaker 1: go to war form. They wanted to go above and 675 00:35:08,640 --> 00:35:11,640 Speaker 1: beyond for the guy. And I do feel when you 676 00:35:11,719 --> 00:35:15,040 Speaker 1: watch the Dolphins play that his guys play really hard 677 00:35:15,040 --> 00:35:19,120 Speaker 1: for him and around him. And I don't think that's nothing. 678 00:35:19,719 --> 00:35:22,720 Speaker 1: Because Russell Wilson, who's like a borderline Hall of Famer. 679 00:35:23,040 --> 00:35:26,880 Speaker 1: Why does everyone hate him? Why does everyone not like 680 00:35:27,040 --> 00:35:30,400 Speaker 1: Russell Wilson? You know, we kind of have some information, 681 00:35:30,440 --> 00:35:34,440 Speaker 1: but we've never heard like a perfectly set out reason 682 00:35:34,560 --> 00:35:37,600 Speaker 1: why everyone Everyone kind of beats around the bush. But 683 00:35:37,680 --> 00:35:40,319 Speaker 1: it's clear like he's kind of a diva. He's kind 684 00:35:40,360 --> 00:35:43,200 Speaker 1: of like narcissists might be too strong of a word, 685 00:35:43,239 --> 00:35:45,959 Speaker 1: but all about himself. Where a lot of the best 686 00:35:46,040 --> 00:35:49,719 Speaker 1: quarterbacks that aren't the best players are just like great teammates. 687 00:35:50,280 --> 00:35:53,239 Speaker 1: And it does feel like Tua is very very well alike. 688 00:35:53,320 --> 00:35:56,560 Speaker 1: And Miami they're gonna make the playoffs this year. Now, 689 00:35:56,560 --> 00:35:58,239 Speaker 1: I'm gonna bet against him in the first round. I'll 690 00:35:58,239 --> 00:36:00,960 Speaker 1: promise you that I cannot in a too, especially because 691 00:36:00,960 --> 00:36:02,520 Speaker 1: they're not gonna win the division means they're gonna play 692 00:36:02,560 --> 00:36:05,279 Speaker 1: a road playoff game. I ain't picking Tua to play 693 00:36:05,360 --> 00:36:08,520 Speaker 1: on the road and beat you know, the Chiefs or something, 694 00:36:09,040 --> 00:36:12,239 Speaker 1: but making the playoffs first year, Mike McDaniel would be 695 00:36:12,320 --> 00:36:14,719 Speaker 1: very impressive. And you know, it seems like two was 696 00:36:14,719 --> 00:36:17,279 Speaker 1: a good guy, easy person to root for, especially after 697 00:36:17,320 --> 00:36:21,040 Speaker 1: that situation that happened on Thursday Night Football. Speaking about Tua, 698 00:36:21,719 --> 00:36:25,080 Speaker 1: I mean Dan Campbell. It's just not going well. I mean, 699 00:36:25,320 --> 00:36:29,319 Speaker 1: they are not winning any games. They look. I mean, 700 00:36:29,320 --> 00:36:34,000 Speaker 1: they just never win even games like I bet on them, 701 00:36:34,080 --> 00:36:36,000 Speaker 1: and they just never come through even though you're like, 702 00:36:36,000 --> 00:36:37,839 Speaker 1: they're gonna win this game. Well, no, no they're not. 703 00:36:38,239 --> 00:36:40,239 Speaker 1: And he fired a dB coach. And here's what I 704 00:36:40,280 --> 00:36:42,520 Speaker 1: will say. Then, I think there's gonna be a lot 705 00:36:42,560 --> 00:36:44,920 Speaker 1: of pressure on them next year to show some signs 706 00:36:44,920 --> 00:36:48,279 Speaker 1: of life because their owner, who I don't really think 707 00:36:48,280 --> 00:36:50,440 Speaker 1: they care that much about football. They kind of remind 708 00:36:50,520 --> 00:36:52,960 Speaker 1: me of like a cal Berkeley, Like everyone's like, oh, 709 00:36:53,000 --> 00:36:56,480 Speaker 1: cal Berkeley just lost to Colorado, Will Cox, He's not 710 00:36:56,520 --> 00:37:00,040 Speaker 1: in any trouble. No one in the university gives a 711 00:36:59,760 --> 00:37:03,120 Speaker 1: shit about football. Now I'm not saying Martha Ford doesn't 712 00:37:03,160 --> 00:37:05,839 Speaker 1: give a shit about football, but if they really cared, 713 00:37:05,920 --> 00:37:11,040 Speaker 1: they wouldn't always suck. Be impossible, and they have consistently 714 00:37:11,160 --> 00:37:15,160 Speaker 1: sucked my entire life. The two best players in the 715 00:37:15,200 --> 00:37:19,680 Speaker 1: history of the franchise, Barry Sanders Calvin Johnson, both retired 716 00:37:20,600 --> 00:37:24,160 Speaker 1: at thirty years old. Think about that, both retired at 717 00:37:24,239 --> 00:37:28,480 Speaker 1: thirty years old. So he's not gonna go anywhere. And 718 00:37:28,480 --> 00:37:30,279 Speaker 1: here's the other thing. He's gonna have going for him 719 00:37:30,360 --> 00:37:32,600 Speaker 1: going in and next year they're probably I mean, there's 720 00:37:32,640 --> 00:37:34,440 Speaker 1: a dcents they're gonna have the number one overall pick. 721 00:37:35,320 --> 00:37:38,759 Speaker 1: They also because of the Rams Stafford trade, Like what 722 00:37:38,840 --> 00:37:41,160 Speaker 1: if the Rams go six and eleven and that pick 723 00:37:41,239 --> 00:37:44,759 Speaker 1: is like tenth, so they will have multiple picks in 724 00:37:44,800 --> 00:37:47,239 Speaker 1: the top ten. I don't think it's out of the 725 00:37:47,280 --> 00:37:50,000 Speaker 1: realm possibility. And even if the Ram somehow gets like 726 00:37:50,080 --> 00:37:53,600 Speaker 1: seven and ten, like that pick could easily be like twelve, thirteen, fourteen. 727 00:37:54,120 --> 00:37:58,839 Speaker 1: Here's the other thing people forget. They drafted the dude 728 00:37:58,920 --> 00:38:03,320 Speaker 1: from Jamison Williams, the wide receiver from Alabama who tours 729 00:38:03,360 --> 00:38:07,120 Speaker 1: ACL So they're gonna have him coming Like I don't 730 00:38:07,120 --> 00:38:09,359 Speaker 1: know how much he'll end up playing this year, kind 731 00:38:09,400 --> 00:38:11,800 Speaker 1: of a redshirt year, but like they did draft him, 732 00:38:12,000 --> 00:38:15,200 Speaker 1: they do have some offensive weapons. They need to draft defense, 733 00:38:15,239 --> 00:38:17,439 Speaker 1: and then obviously they need a quarterback. But there are 734 00:38:17,520 --> 00:38:20,719 Speaker 1: some signs of life in terms of the future when 735 00:38:20,760 --> 00:38:23,040 Speaker 1: you factor in the draft picks and when you factor 736 00:38:23,080 --> 00:38:24,719 Speaker 1: in the help and you just watch them, like they 737 00:38:24,719 --> 00:38:27,279 Speaker 1: do have some good players. Is Dan Campbell the long 738 00:38:27,400 --> 00:38:30,560 Speaker 1: term coach? You know, I probably bet against it, but 739 00:38:31,719 --> 00:38:34,080 Speaker 1: I'm gonna give him. I'll give him at least next 740 00:38:34,120 --> 00:38:37,440 Speaker 1: season before I make some definitive this guy sucks because 741 00:38:38,280 --> 00:38:40,680 Speaker 1: you know, would Belichick win a couple more games there 742 00:38:40,719 --> 00:38:43,719 Speaker 1: of course when Andy Reid, But I don't think that 743 00:38:43,719 --> 00:38:46,960 Speaker 1: that the Lions would be. I did pick him to 744 00:38:47,000 --> 00:38:48,880 Speaker 1: be a feist team, maybe not a playoff team. So 745 00:38:49,160 --> 00:38:51,920 Speaker 1: maybe I'm being unfair and maybe I'm pivoting, but Dan 746 00:38:52,040 --> 00:38:55,200 Speaker 1: Campbell might just suck. Never mind. And then, last, but 747 00:38:55,239 --> 00:38:59,319 Speaker 1: not least, Nick Saban turned seventy one years old today, 748 00:38:59,800 --> 00:39:03,240 Speaker 1: seventy one years old. Massive game this week against LSU 749 00:39:03,840 --> 00:39:08,759 Speaker 1: shows absolutely no signs of slowing down. I text someone 750 00:39:09,000 --> 00:39:11,239 Speaker 1: a while back. I would say, a guy that kind 751 00:39:11,239 --> 00:39:13,560 Speaker 1: of knows him and has worked for him, and said, 752 00:39:13,560 --> 00:39:14,880 Speaker 1: do you think he always going to retire at the 753 00:39:14,920 --> 00:39:17,040 Speaker 1: end of this year? And He's like, honestly, it wouldn't 754 00:39:17,080 --> 00:39:19,719 Speaker 1: surprise me if he coaches five more years. And there 755 00:39:19,800 --> 00:39:21,880 Speaker 1: is something And I've been around some older coaches, like, 756 00:39:22,040 --> 00:39:24,560 Speaker 1: have you ever been around a seventy year old guy 757 00:39:25,040 --> 00:39:27,520 Speaker 1: who's retired or whatever and just kind of lethargic, doesn't 758 00:39:27,520 --> 00:39:31,080 Speaker 1: have any energy, Like that's most older people, right, their 759 00:39:31,120 --> 00:39:33,239 Speaker 1: careers are kind of over, they're just not doing much. 760 00:39:33,239 --> 00:39:36,920 Speaker 1: They're just a step slower. You get around coaches that 761 00:39:37,000 --> 00:39:39,520 Speaker 1: are in their late sixties, early seventies, they have an 762 00:39:39,640 --> 00:39:41,440 Speaker 1: energy to him, And I think part of that is 763 00:39:41,840 --> 00:39:44,320 Speaker 1: you get to be around young people and young people 764 00:39:44,360 --> 00:39:47,920 Speaker 1: there's an energy that they give you. And Nick Saban, 765 00:39:48,200 --> 00:39:50,160 Speaker 1: you know, you watch some of these clips of him coaching, 766 00:39:50,600 --> 00:39:53,080 Speaker 1: he's lightening people up up forty to nothing in some 767 00:39:53,160 --> 00:39:56,960 Speaker 1: of these games, Like I envisioned him going nowhere now. 768 00:39:57,120 --> 00:39:59,640 Speaker 1: I don't think he's gonna win the National championship this year. Hell, 769 00:39:59,640 --> 00:40:04,640 Speaker 1: he could easily lose this game to LSU. But happy birthday, 770 00:40:04,640 --> 00:40:09,560 Speaker 1: big dog. Okay, let's dive into the Middlecoff mail bag 771 00:40:09,719 --> 00:40:13,319 Speaker 1: at John Middlecoff is the Instagram fire into those d ms, 772 00:40:13,440 --> 00:40:18,520 Speaker 1: asked me any question you would like? Start with Roy 773 00:40:19,040 --> 00:40:22,720 Speaker 1: Bears trading Roquan for a second and a fifth. Actually 774 00:40:22,760 --> 00:40:24,880 Speaker 1: like the move. I can see what Ryan Poles is 775 00:40:24,920 --> 00:40:29,280 Speaker 1: doing and his plan is going forward. Roquan wanted twenty 776 00:40:29,280 --> 00:40:31,719 Speaker 1: million a year. Don't see why you would pay that 777 00:40:31,760 --> 00:40:36,000 Speaker 1: for an off ball linebacker. Thoughts on the move, Well, 778 00:40:37,680 --> 00:40:41,120 Speaker 1: I agree, I have no problem paying an elite linebacker 779 00:40:41,200 --> 00:40:44,360 Speaker 1: if my team's good. It doesn't make that much sense 780 00:40:44,360 --> 00:40:47,200 Speaker 1: for the Bears, though they have one hundred million dollars 781 00:40:47,200 --> 00:40:50,080 Speaker 1: in cap space next year. One thing I had heard 782 00:40:50,640 --> 00:40:53,600 Speaker 1: is they had offered him a lot of money and 783 00:40:53,719 --> 00:40:56,160 Speaker 1: he turned them down. I don't think he wanted to 784 00:40:56,200 --> 00:40:59,360 Speaker 1: be a Bear anymore. Now here's what is somewhat of 785 00:40:59,400 --> 00:41:03,080 Speaker 1: a kick in the you know what. They drafted him really, 786 00:41:03,120 --> 00:41:05,600 Speaker 1: really high and he turned out to be a really 787 00:41:05,640 --> 00:41:08,560 Speaker 1: good player. Now I understand this, GM didn't, but you're 788 00:41:08,600 --> 00:41:10,640 Speaker 1: trading a guy that you drafted and wasn't he a 789 00:41:10,640 --> 00:41:16,560 Speaker 1: top ten pick for a second round pick? And the Ravens, 790 00:41:16,640 --> 00:41:19,080 Speaker 1: I mean, the Ravens are gonna win the division I think, 791 00:41:19,760 --> 00:41:21,800 Speaker 1: and they're definitely going to the playoffs. So that picks 792 00:41:21,840 --> 00:41:24,040 Speaker 1: in the twenties, well, in the second round, what's a 793 00:41:24,080 --> 00:41:27,400 Speaker 1: pick in the twenties? Well, round starts at thirty three. 794 00:41:28,120 --> 00:41:30,600 Speaker 1: So do the math. I mean, you're talking about fifty six, 795 00:41:30,719 --> 00:41:34,800 Speaker 1: fifty seven. You know, I get it. It's better nothing. 796 00:41:34,840 --> 00:41:37,920 Speaker 1: I also think it shows you his market was pretty 797 00:41:37,920 --> 00:41:43,439 Speaker 1: shitty because most teams, and I disagree with this, when 798 00:41:43,480 --> 00:41:47,040 Speaker 1: you have the ability to get a star middle linebacker 799 00:41:47,080 --> 00:41:50,359 Speaker 1: and your team is good, they impact your squad man 800 00:41:50,680 --> 00:41:53,439 Speaker 1: because they make every tackle in the run game, and 801 00:41:53,760 --> 00:41:56,040 Speaker 1: if they're a good cover guy. Now, I haven't studied 802 00:41:56,120 --> 00:41:58,719 Speaker 1: ro Quwan, but everyone I talked to in the league 803 00:41:58,760 --> 00:42:01,000 Speaker 1: thinks he's a really good player. But I get it, 804 00:42:01,160 --> 00:42:04,360 Speaker 1: you know, I mean, you're kind of restarting the organization. 805 00:42:04,400 --> 00:42:08,320 Speaker 1: And again, in fairness to polls, eber flews in the organization. 806 00:42:08,800 --> 00:42:11,120 Speaker 1: I had heard I think they had talked about it, 807 00:42:11,120 --> 00:42:12,960 Speaker 1: but from someone in the NFL. So they offered him 808 00:42:12,960 --> 00:42:15,719 Speaker 1: a lot of money and he said no. So I 809 00:42:16,200 --> 00:42:17,880 Speaker 1: a lot of people thought that he just didn't want 810 00:42:17,920 --> 00:42:21,160 Speaker 1: to be there anymore, which, you know, you could argue 811 00:42:21,320 --> 00:42:27,080 Speaker 1: somewhat understandable. Hey John, what when are you planning to 812 00:42:27,120 --> 00:42:31,040 Speaker 1: discuss on your show that your panther's prediction still has 813 00:42:31,080 --> 00:42:34,920 Speaker 1: some life? They are a win away from first, I 814 00:42:35,000 --> 00:42:38,839 Speaker 1: know it was. It was close. Now, I couldn't take 815 00:42:38,880 --> 00:42:42,040 Speaker 1: any credit for it because my prediction involved Baker Mayfield 816 00:42:42,080 --> 00:42:45,239 Speaker 1: and Matt Rule. Baker's career is basically over and Matt 817 00:42:45,320 --> 00:42:48,799 Speaker 1: Rule fired. So I did not envision Steve Wilkes and 818 00:42:48,880 --> 00:42:55,759 Speaker 1: p J. Walker, you know, basically resurrecting my pick. And 819 00:42:55,960 --> 00:42:58,960 Speaker 1: I picked it, and I hang my hat on not 820 00:42:59,080 --> 00:43:01,960 Speaker 1: doing this. But It's just I'm not big on predictions. 821 00:43:01,960 --> 00:43:04,560 Speaker 1: Like I'll make predictions on a given week, like who 822 00:43:04,560 --> 00:43:07,600 Speaker 1: I'm gambling on, but like who's gonna win the division, 823 00:43:08,200 --> 00:43:11,799 Speaker 1: you know, unless it's like the Chiefs. I just you know, 824 00:43:12,239 --> 00:43:13,880 Speaker 1: I didn't want to pick the Bucks. And part of 825 00:43:13,880 --> 00:43:15,800 Speaker 1: the reason I shorted the Bucks was Tom Brady in 826 00:43:15,880 --> 00:43:18,600 Speaker 1: his impending divorce, which at the time we didn't even 827 00:43:18,640 --> 00:43:20,040 Speaker 1: know he was gonna get divorce. We just know that 828 00:43:20,080 --> 00:43:23,120 Speaker 1: he disappeared from training camp and clearly he doesn't really 829 00:43:23,160 --> 00:43:25,960 Speaker 1: feel that into it, which is a little weird from Tom. 830 00:43:26,000 --> 00:43:28,640 Speaker 1: Now it turns out the Saints suck. The Falcons are 831 00:43:28,640 --> 00:43:33,920 Speaker 1: actually pretty decent. But yeah, I don't deserve too much 832 00:43:33,920 --> 00:43:37,279 Speaker 1: credit on that one. I'll take the l I've been 833 00:43:37,320 --> 00:43:40,680 Speaker 1: following you for a while, big fan now living in LA. 834 00:43:40,760 --> 00:43:44,399 Speaker 1: I don't know if that's Louisiana or Los Angeles, home 835 00:43:44,480 --> 00:43:47,640 Speaker 1: of the worst NBA basketball team I think I've ever 836 00:43:47,640 --> 00:43:50,920 Speaker 1: seen in the LA Lakers. Question for the pot. Just 837 00:43:51,000 --> 00:43:53,720 Speaker 1: heard your take on the Hawks Giants game being big 838 00:43:53,800 --> 00:43:56,160 Speaker 1: and how surprised you are that it's such a critical game, 839 00:43:56,719 --> 00:43:59,640 Speaker 1: especially over Rams and forty nine ers. My question is this, 840 00:44:00,320 --> 00:44:02,360 Speaker 1: do we stand a chance to win the division or 841 00:44:02,440 --> 00:44:05,560 Speaker 1: make the playoffs. If Russ continues to stink up in Denver, 842 00:44:05,920 --> 00:44:08,480 Speaker 1: do we use that pick for a quarterback whereas Gino 843 00:44:08,560 --> 00:44:11,080 Speaker 1: a two three year solution and we draft more O line, 844 00:44:11,120 --> 00:44:15,600 Speaker 1: help pass rushers and continue to improve in other areas well. 845 00:44:16,880 --> 00:44:19,320 Speaker 1: You basically just need I mean, you obviously aren't for 846 00:44:19,360 --> 00:44:23,239 Speaker 1: Denver to lose every single game because the higher that 847 00:44:23,320 --> 00:44:27,279 Speaker 1: pick is, like their pick's going to be higher than yours. Now, 848 00:44:27,400 --> 00:44:30,640 Speaker 1: can you win the division? You know, San Francisco played you, guys, 849 00:44:31,080 --> 00:44:34,839 Speaker 1: and they kicked your ass. You play I think Arizona 850 00:44:34,920 --> 00:44:37,960 Speaker 1: this week. The game against the Giants was impressive. You 851 00:44:38,080 --> 00:44:40,480 Speaker 1: Your team's good. You have a very very solid team. 852 00:44:40,680 --> 00:44:42,680 Speaker 1: I think that you can get to ten wins if 853 00:44:42,680 --> 00:44:44,520 Speaker 1: I had to bet right now. You kind of feel 854 00:44:44,520 --> 00:44:47,879 Speaker 1: like a nine and eight team, But you've played really 855 00:44:47,920 --> 00:44:50,520 Speaker 1: good this season. Pete Carroll's a big time coach. John 856 00:44:50,560 --> 00:44:52,800 Speaker 1: Schneider everyone tried to talk to shit. I've always believed 857 00:44:52,840 --> 00:44:55,200 Speaker 1: in him as a general manager. If you make the 858 00:44:55,200 --> 00:44:58,840 Speaker 1: playoffs as a wild card, that is an incredible accomplishment 859 00:44:59,040 --> 00:45:01,920 Speaker 1: because everyone and I'm probably guilty of this too, picked 860 00:45:01,920 --> 00:45:05,319 Speaker 1: you guys to stink to be five and three after 861 00:45:05,360 --> 00:45:08,120 Speaker 1: eight games. When you're five and three after eight games, 862 00:45:08,160 --> 00:45:10,719 Speaker 1: I mean you go. You can go three and five 863 00:45:11,560 --> 00:45:13,479 Speaker 1: over the next eight games, you'd be eight and eight. 864 00:45:13,640 --> 00:45:15,520 Speaker 1: All you gotta do is when I mean, I think 865 00:45:15,560 --> 00:45:18,759 Speaker 1: it's very, very possible for you guys to be above 866 00:45:18,800 --> 00:45:21,960 Speaker 1: five hundred and I don't think there's a soul outside 867 00:45:21,960 --> 00:45:25,560 Speaker 1: of that building that would have envisioned or picked Seattle 868 00:45:25,600 --> 00:45:29,920 Speaker 1: to do that. No chance actually, so just pretty unreal 869 00:45:29,960 --> 00:45:33,400 Speaker 1: from you guys. Found you through the volume over a 870 00:45:33,480 --> 00:45:36,239 Speaker 1: year ago, but subscribed directly at your request. A few 871 00:45:36,280 --> 00:45:39,439 Speaker 1: housekeeping notes. I haven't watched ESPN and god knows how long, 872 00:45:39,800 --> 00:45:42,080 Speaker 1: but did the other day before the NFL game started. 873 00:45:42,719 --> 00:45:45,000 Speaker 1: Is Chris Mortenson the same one I used to watch 874 00:45:45,040 --> 00:45:48,759 Speaker 1: back in the day. He looks really bad. Yeah, I 875 00:45:48,760 --> 00:45:50,680 Speaker 1: think he got cancer, so he got sick, so he 876 00:45:50,719 --> 00:45:55,239 Speaker 1: looks dramatically different. Also, Collins Buddy nick Wright looks like 877 00:45:55,280 --> 00:45:58,480 Speaker 1: Tom Green from MTV twenty years ago. Thoughts not a 878 00:45:58,520 --> 00:46:01,320 Speaker 1: bad comparison, kind of like that. Okay, getting the football. 879 00:46:02,239 --> 00:46:06,120 Speaker 1: I'm a lifelong Pats fan and season ticket holder, Thanks Dad, 880 00:46:06,480 --> 00:46:08,440 Speaker 1: long before the dynasty, and I'm gonna go to the 881 00:46:08,440 --> 00:46:10,440 Speaker 1: game this week and would love to see Bailey Zappy 882 00:46:10,560 --> 00:46:13,720 Speaker 1: start over Hoyer. Do you think they have any reason 883 00:46:13,800 --> 00:46:16,160 Speaker 1: not to. I don't think Mac or any quarterback on 884 00:46:16,280 --> 00:46:18,839 Speaker 1: that team is the future, and knew it would be 885 00:46:18,840 --> 00:46:21,239 Speaker 1: tough after Brady left, but it kills me to see 886 00:46:21,239 --> 00:46:24,480 Speaker 1: Bill's legacy get tarnished. With any decent quarterback, we would 887 00:46:24,520 --> 00:46:27,200 Speaker 1: be second behind Buffalo. What do you think I still 888 00:46:27,200 --> 00:46:30,279 Speaker 1: think that you can finish second behind Buffalo? I really do. 889 00:46:30,960 --> 00:46:35,359 Speaker 1: I would not just chuck Miami as the lock, you know, 890 00:46:35,680 --> 00:46:38,799 Speaker 1: eleven win team. I think you and Miami are gonna 891 00:46:38,800 --> 00:46:42,000 Speaker 1: battle all year long for that second spot against Buffalo. Now, 892 00:46:42,040 --> 00:46:45,439 Speaker 1: you got no chance against Buffalo. Miami's already beat him once, 893 00:46:45,600 --> 00:46:48,040 Speaker 1: so Miami will probably lose the second game and split 894 00:46:48,040 --> 00:46:50,799 Speaker 1: with Buffalo, which is an incredible accomplishment, even as if 895 00:46:50,800 --> 00:46:53,160 Speaker 1: it's pretty crazy the way they beat him, but they did, 896 00:46:53,800 --> 00:46:56,360 Speaker 1: and you don't get extra credit in the NFL, so 897 00:46:56,480 --> 00:46:58,719 Speaker 1: just win the game, figure it out, and they did, 898 00:46:58,800 --> 00:47:05,320 Speaker 1: so Yeah, I mean I would say your quarterback is 899 00:47:05,800 --> 00:47:10,080 Speaker 1: a problem. Do you think the Bears GM is trading 900 00:47:10,080 --> 00:47:13,359 Speaker 1: away assets like Robert Quinn and Roquan to try and 901 00:47:13,400 --> 00:47:15,600 Speaker 1: win less to get higher draft picks as well as 902 00:47:15,600 --> 00:47:18,759 Speaker 1: give young players as many reps as possible. Well, I 903 00:47:18,760 --> 00:47:22,560 Speaker 1: think Robert Quinn specifically. You know, when you're an average 904 00:47:22,600 --> 00:47:24,440 Speaker 1: to below team and you have a thirty two year 905 00:47:24,440 --> 00:47:26,719 Speaker 1: old pass rusher who makes a lot of money, like, 906 00:47:26,760 --> 00:47:29,319 Speaker 1: what's the point, you know? I think part of it 907 00:47:29,480 --> 00:47:32,319 Speaker 1: was he's not their guy. They got some value, they 908 00:47:32,360 --> 00:47:35,040 Speaker 1: got a fourth round pick. They need to keep building 909 00:47:35,040 --> 00:47:37,480 Speaker 1: this thing from the studs. I think it's more of 910 00:47:37,480 --> 00:47:40,160 Speaker 1: that mindset and Roquan what I just talked about. I 911 00:47:40,160 --> 00:47:42,239 Speaker 1: think it was a money thing. I don't I don't 912 00:47:42,239 --> 00:47:44,600 Speaker 1: think he ever wanted to be there. I don't think 913 00:47:44,600 --> 00:47:46,440 Speaker 1: he wanted to play for these guys. I think he 914 00:47:46,520 --> 00:47:49,799 Speaker 1: was tired of playing in Chicago, which I gotta be honest, Like, 915 00:47:50,360 --> 00:47:54,440 Speaker 1: I never fault anyone for wanting to play somewhere different. 916 00:47:54,640 --> 00:47:58,040 Speaker 1: I've wanted to work different places. I've you know, change 917 00:47:58,120 --> 00:48:03,000 Speaker 1: careers and move jobs and created my own jobs. Technically, 918 00:48:03,080 --> 00:48:05,960 Speaker 1: Like I get it, But I think the difference is 919 00:48:06,040 --> 00:48:09,960 Speaker 1: like if you're an entrepreneur and you're in the podcast space, 920 00:48:10,000 --> 00:48:12,080 Speaker 1: like I can fuck around, I can live wherever, I 921 00:48:12,120 --> 00:48:14,200 Speaker 1: can figure it out on the go. If I'm a 922 00:48:14,239 --> 00:48:19,480 Speaker 1: football player, it matters where I play right in the 923 00:48:19,480 --> 00:48:22,759 Speaker 1: podcast business, it matters who I'm associated with or what 924 00:48:22,920 --> 00:48:26,239 Speaker 1: I talk about right. My podcast is much more valuable 925 00:48:27,560 --> 00:48:29,680 Speaker 1: with Colin and on the volume than it would be 926 00:48:29,760 --> 00:48:32,040 Speaker 1: me just doing it by myself. Of course it is, 927 00:48:33,200 --> 00:48:36,000 Speaker 1: but it also allows me, like I could just pick 928 00:48:36,080 --> 00:48:39,000 Speaker 1: up and move from the Bay Area to Scottsdale. If 929 00:48:39,040 --> 00:48:40,840 Speaker 1: I wanted to move to Nashville, if I wanted to 930 00:48:40,880 --> 00:48:43,000 Speaker 1: move to Alaska, I could have done whatever I wanted. 931 00:48:43,040 --> 00:48:46,840 Speaker 1: I don't have to ask anyone to do anything. But 932 00:48:46,920 --> 00:48:50,239 Speaker 1: as a player, you don't determine where you play right 933 00:48:50,320 --> 00:48:52,359 Speaker 1: unless you're a free agent because a team drafts you. 934 00:48:53,200 --> 00:48:55,319 Speaker 1: But once you're in a good spot, like ro Quan 935 00:48:55,440 --> 00:48:57,200 Speaker 1: I don't blame him. He didn't like playing there. Their 936 00:48:57,239 --> 00:48:58,680 Speaker 1: team's not going to be that good for the next 937 00:48:58,680 --> 00:49:01,680 Speaker 1: couple of years. I get it. But I was thinking 938 00:49:01,680 --> 00:49:04,439 Speaker 1: about this because you know, I'm out on the West 939 00:49:04,480 --> 00:49:06,239 Speaker 1: Coast and Fresno State guy, and I'm on a lot 940 00:49:06,280 --> 00:49:10,600 Speaker 1: of text chains about Derek Carr and DeVante. I understand 941 00:49:10,640 --> 00:49:14,359 Speaker 1: DeVante like wanting to live somewhere else and play with 942 00:49:14,400 --> 00:49:19,120 Speaker 1: his buddy, But you your career is so small, even 943 00:49:19,120 --> 00:49:22,879 Speaker 1: if you play twelve, thirteen, fifteen years. If you live 944 00:49:22,960 --> 00:49:25,480 Speaker 1: till eighty years old, it is a small time over 945 00:49:25,520 --> 00:49:27,759 Speaker 1: your life. And once you get to a high level 946 00:49:27,800 --> 00:49:30,560 Speaker 1: as a player, you're gonna make a shitload of money. 947 00:49:30,600 --> 00:49:32,360 Speaker 1: And DeVante was already making a lot of money, and 948 00:49:32,400 --> 00:49:34,680 Speaker 1: the Packers were prepared to pay him a lot of money. 949 00:49:34,920 --> 00:49:38,400 Speaker 1: He played for the Green Bay Packers, one of the 950 00:49:38,480 --> 00:49:45,000 Speaker 1: great organizational just powerful brands in the world, and he 951 00:49:45,040 --> 00:49:47,160 Speaker 1: played with Aaron Rodgers in the peak of his powers. 952 00:49:47,200 --> 00:49:49,319 Speaker 1: Now I get it. Aaron's weird and weird things are 953 00:49:49,320 --> 00:49:53,399 Speaker 1: going on, but the Raiders consistently lose. They have had 954 00:49:53,480 --> 00:49:58,400 Speaker 1: three winning seasons in two decades, and currently they are 955 00:49:58,440 --> 00:50:02,240 Speaker 1: a joke. If Vante Adams had stayed with Green Bay, 956 00:50:02,640 --> 00:50:06,000 Speaker 1: they would not be three and five. I mean, honestly, 957 00:50:06,080 --> 00:50:09,960 Speaker 1: at worst, they'd be five and three. They would be unreal. Again, 958 00:50:10,840 --> 00:50:13,480 Speaker 1: he chose to play with his buddy and Josh McDaniels, 959 00:50:13,520 --> 00:50:17,240 Speaker 1: who is clearly pretty over his head. And it's a disastrous, 960 00:50:17,480 --> 00:50:23,680 Speaker 1: disastrous decision, it really is. Now I get, I don't know, 961 00:50:24,040 --> 00:50:26,520 Speaker 1: I actually don't. I mean, I get the family element 962 00:50:26,560 --> 00:50:28,080 Speaker 1: of it. I know he had family members that had 963 00:50:28,080 --> 00:50:33,359 Speaker 1: never seen him play live, but man, that one's got 964 00:50:33,360 --> 00:50:37,600 Speaker 1: a hurt. As a Packer fan, I was wooed in 965 00:50:37,600 --> 00:50:41,000 Speaker 1: the first few years of the LA floor higher thirteen 966 00:50:41,040 --> 00:50:42,759 Speaker 1: and three. The first two years back to back was 967 00:50:42,800 --> 00:50:46,000 Speaker 1: pretty impressive. However, after last year I kind of got 968 00:50:46,200 --> 00:50:49,640 Speaker 1: suspect over him. Suspect over him. I think I said 969 00:50:49,680 --> 00:50:52,640 Speaker 1: that wrong. And how he is a soft coach and 970 00:50:52,719 --> 00:50:55,160 Speaker 1: soft don't win Super Bowls. I think he's a good 971 00:50:55,160 --> 00:50:59,560 Speaker 1: offensive mind and it's really not something you can pinpoint, 972 00:50:59,600 --> 00:51:04,760 Speaker 1: but the Packers always feel soft under his administration leadership. 973 00:51:04,800 --> 00:51:06,880 Speaker 1: I think that's what you mean. Whenever faced with a 974 00:51:06,920 --> 00:51:11,040 Speaker 1: little adversity, they fold Say what you want about McCarthy, 975 00:51:11,040 --> 00:51:14,319 Speaker 1: but he coached tough Packer teams, and sure as hell 976 00:51:14,400 --> 00:51:17,120 Speaker 1: coach is a tough Dallas team. And I think he 977 00:51:17,200 --> 00:51:21,280 Speaker 1: brought out the edge and Rodgers iconic moments like relax, 978 00:51:21,840 --> 00:51:25,320 Speaker 1: run the table, playing stoned on pay Killers, and coming 979 00:51:25,360 --> 00:51:28,760 Speaker 1: back against the Bears. Would really love to hear your thoughts. 980 00:51:30,360 --> 00:51:35,239 Speaker 1: You know it's weird, is I do believe your offensive 981 00:51:35,280 --> 00:51:39,480 Speaker 1: coach can impact the defense by two ways. One, they 982 00:51:39,520 --> 00:51:41,839 Speaker 1: put a premium on that side of the ball. They 983 00:51:41,920 --> 00:51:44,960 Speaker 1: like drafting those players, they like signing defensive lineman. They 984 00:51:45,040 --> 00:51:49,239 Speaker 1: like tough defensive players, or they like running the ball, 985 00:51:49,960 --> 00:51:53,279 Speaker 1: which establishes toughness in practice. And what's weird is I 986 00:51:53,320 --> 00:51:56,720 Speaker 1: think Lafleur does like running the football. He has really 987 00:51:56,760 --> 00:51:58,840 Speaker 1: added that element, which I think we can agree. It 988 00:51:58,880 --> 00:52:02,480 Speaker 1: wasn't McCarthy's go two thing. He like passing the ball. 989 00:52:03,280 --> 00:52:06,680 Speaker 1: I do wonder if like his personality. And I've said this, 990 00:52:07,160 --> 00:52:10,680 Speaker 1: I don't know Matt personally, but I did attend his 991 00:52:10,760 --> 00:52:14,240 Speaker 1: first years as an offensive coordinator for the Tennessee Titans, 992 00:52:14,320 --> 00:52:17,480 Speaker 1: and he was pretty impressive running up Ota practice in 993 00:52:17,600 --> 00:52:20,680 Speaker 1: terms of lighting guys up and being on guys. I 994 00:52:20,719 --> 00:52:24,920 Speaker 1: actually think they take the personality of Aaron Rodgers, you know, 995 00:52:25,040 --> 00:52:28,959 Speaker 1: like ultimately the Lakers take the personality of this version 996 00:52:29,000 --> 00:52:31,600 Speaker 1: of Lebron who's just he's not there. He doesn't give 997 00:52:31,600 --> 00:52:33,879 Speaker 1: a shit about the Lakers. He's there to live in La, 998 00:52:34,200 --> 00:52:37,839 Speaker 1: make a lot of money, and just break some records individually. 999 00:52:38,360 --> 00:52:40,160 Speaker 1: And you just watch the Lakers, they're kind of lifeless. 1000 00:52:40,480 --> 00:52:42,400 Speaker 1: Of course they are. Their best player doesn't really care 1001 00:52:42,400 --> 00:52:45,800 Speaker 1: anymore like Aaron Rodgers cares, but kind of on his terms. 1002 00:52:46,800 --> 00:52:49,279 Speaker 1: And he's always been a little different. And I do 1003 00:52:49,360 --> 00:52:52,279 Speaker 1: wonder if they take on his personality, because ultimately, the 1004 00:52:52,280 --> 00:52:55,400 Speaker 1: Patriots whose personality they take on them Fucking Tom Brady 1005 00:52:56,160 --> 00:52:59,800 Speaker 1: guy would run through a wall. He would do anything 1006 00:53:00,120 --> 00:53:04,760 Speaker 1: humanly possible within the deepest, deepest realms of the soul 1007 00:53:05,320 --> 00:53:07,960 Speaker 1: to win a game, and so would Bill and the 1008 00:53:08,200 --> 00:53:11,760 Speaker 1: Patriots represented that over the years. I'm not saying Rodgers 1009 00:53:11,800 --> 00:53:13,799 Speaker 1: doesn't want to win, it doesn't try hard to win, 1010 00:53:14,680 --> 00:53:16,040 Speaker 1: but it does feel like he kind of wants to 1011 00:53:16,040 --> 00:53:18,799 Speaker 1: do it on his terms. Russell Wilson has that same feel, 1012 00:53:19,880 --> 00:53:22,640 Speaker 1: and Rodgers is way better than Russell, and it's why 1013 00:53:22,640 --> 00:53:24,440 Speaker 1: the last couple of years they've had a lot of success, 1014 00:53:24,560 --> 00:53:27,759 Speaker 1: but it's also why they've kind of folded in the playoffs. 1015 00:53:27,760 --> 00:53:30,080 Speaker 1: Like last year, I do think the worst loss of 1016 00:53:30,080 --> 00:53:33,759 Speaker 1: his career. And I've seen several against the Niners over 1017 00:53:33,800 --> 00:53:36,479 Speaker 1: the years, but like, you know, the hard bought team 1018 00:53:36,480 --> 00:53:40,000 Speaker 1: that beat him, like, I get it, the first Kyle 1019 00:53:40,040 --> 00:53:43,000 Speaker 1: Shanahan team to beat him in nineteen, I get it. 1020 00:53:44,080 --> 00:53:46,399 Speaker 1: Lat you cannot lose to that Niner team last year. 1021 00:53:46,760 --> 00:53:50,920 Speaker 1: They did not score an offensive touchdown. Honestly, Tom Brady 1022 00:53:51,000 --> 00:53:54,279 Speaker 1: wins that game by multiple touchdowns. That that was I 1023 00:53:54,360 --> 00:53:56,320 Speaker 1: put that on Rodgers as much as I do Lafloor, 1024 00:53:56,680 --> 00:53:59,959 Speaker 1: that cannot happen. You can be like, well the punt team, 1025 00:54:00,120 --> 00:54:03,319 Speaker 1: well it's never should have came down to that. How 1026 00:54:03,440 --> 00:54:05,759 Speaker 1: Rodgers doesn't will his team to a couple of touchdowns 1027 00:54:05,800 --> 00:54:07,560 Speaker 1: is beyond me. He's in the peak of his powers, 1028 00:54:08,040 --> 00:54:10,719 Speaker 1: MVP of the league. He's got Davontae Adams at home. 1029 00:54:12,000 --> 00:54:15,000 Speaker 1: So I in a weird way, and I'm not I'm 1030 00:54:15,000 --> 00:54:17,320 Speaker 1: not trying to go coward here. I'm not anti Rodgers. 1031 00:54:17,480 --> 00:54:20,520 Speaker 1: I think he's like my Dan Marino, but he has 1032 00:54:20,520 --> 00:54:24,840 Speaker 1: a Super Bowl But there's there's there's a toughness element 1033 00:54:24,880 --> 00:54:27,440 Speaker 1: to him. Not that he's not a tough guy, like 1034 00:54:27,520 --> 00:54:30,439 Speaker 1: he can take hits and pop up, but something about 1035 00:54:30,520 --> 00:54:34,120 Speaker 1: his play that I do think his team kind of reflects. 1036 00:54:34,120 --> 00:54:37,440 Speaker 1: Like you watch Josh Allen, you watch Patrick Mahomes, you think, 1037 00:54:37,640 --> 00:54:39,640 Speaker 1: I mean, those guys you gotta drag their ass off 1038 00:54:39,680 --> 00:54:42,879 Speaker 1: the field. Rogers had a little bit of that back. 1039 00:54:43,080 --> 00:54:46,120 Speaker 1: You're right with McCarthy, but he was younger, you know, 1040 00:54:46,200 --> 00:54:49,040 Speaker 1: I when you get thirty eight, thirty nine, like most 1041 00:54:49,040 --> 00:54:51,719 Speaker 1: guys like you know, am I really gonna get laid 1042 00:54:51,719 --> 00:54:54,760 Speaker 1: out on this one? To potentially hit this forty yard bomb. 1043 00:54:55,160 --> 00:55:00,520 Speaker 1: Maybe not. Again, I'm not Rogers hater, I'm Marville at 1044 00:55:00,560 --> 00:55:04,719 Speaker 1: the player, but that lost last year, then DeVante wanting out, 1045 00:55:05,440 --> 00:55:08,000 Speaker 1: and now this year because again I still think he 1046 00:55:08,040 --> 00:55:10,359 Speaker 1: looks like a really good player. Like you put him 1047 00:55:10,360 --> 00:55:12,120 Speaker 1: on the forty nine ers right now, they're not losing 1048 00:55:12,120 --> 00:55:15,240 Speaker 1: the game, right I mean, they'd roll to the super Bowl, 1049 00:55:15,600 --> 00:55:17,879 Speaker 1: like he's still an elite player. But he just kind 1050 00:55:17,920 --> 00:55:21,360 Speaker 1: of feels, you know, just in the good little Ayawashka 1051 00:55:21,400 --> 00:55:24,560 Speaker 1: spot life's good, which I'm cool with. I try to 1052 00:55:24,600 --> 00:55:27,960 Speaker 1: keep positive mindset too, But I'm not being paid fifty 1053 00:55:28,000 --> 00:55:31,440 Speaker 1: million dollars to having an iconic franchise depend on me 1054 00:55:31,520 --> 00:55:35,000 Speaker 1: to carry their ass. You know. That's just that's the 1055 00:55:35,040 --> 00:55:37,759 Speaker 1: position he's in. Like I said this last week about 1056 00:55:37,800 --> 00:55:40,920 Speaker 1: Russell Will, when you get paid that much money, do 1057 00:55:40,960 --> 00:55:45,000 Speaker 1: you know the amount of people in the world they 1058 00:55:45,080 --> 00:55:49,480 Speaker 1: get paid forty fifty million dollars, they'd have zero ownership 1059 00:55:49,760 --> 00:55:53,080 Speaker 1: in whatever they're being paid by. Aaron Rodgers gets paid 1060 00:55:53,080 --> 00:55:55,680 Speaker 1: fifty million dollars a year and has zero equity, no 1061 00:55:55,840 --> 00:56:00,160 Speaker 1: juice in the deal, just no liability. It's just he's 1062 00:56:00,200 --> 00:56:04,600 Speaker 1: just an employee. All guaranteed too. Think about that like 1063 00:56:04,719 --> 00:56:07,080 Speaker 1: it's a It's one of the best jobs in the world. 1064 00:56:07,760 --> 00:56:10,240 Speaker 1: A lot of people that make that much. It's because 1065 00:56:10,239 --> 00:56:13,120 Speaker 1: they own the company, but they also you know, if 1066 00:56:13,120 --> 00:56:15,440 Speaker 1: the company goes the other way, they're screwed. But Rogers 1067 00:56:15,480 --> 00:56:19,040 Speaker 1: cannot lose. It is a one way tract of money 1068 00:56:19,080 --> 00:56:21,320 Speaker 1: to him. I see it all the time. The best 1069 00:56:21,360 --> 00:56:25,040 Speaker 1: business in the history of the world is the NBA 1070 00:56:25,480 --> 00:56:29,960 Speaker 1: average salary seven plus million dollars. The amount of guys 1071 00:56:29,960 --> 00:56:34,120 Speaker 1: making over thirty million dollars. They have zero, let me 1072 00:56:34,200 --> 00:56:39,680 Speaker 1: repeat zero liability, whether they're good, whether they suck its hell, 1073 00:56:40,160 --> 00:56:42,240 Speaker 1: if you're a good player, even if you get injured. 1074 00:56:42,320 --> 00:56:45,040 Speaker 1: Kawhi Leonard's been hurt for like five straight years, doesn't matter, 1075 00:56:45,239 --> 00:56:48,279 Speaker 1: makes like forty million dollars a year, It does not matter. 1076 00:56:48,360 --> 00:56:51,680 Speaker 1: Kevin Durant Torres Achilles, no one cared. Everyone's offering a 1077 00:56:51,760 --> 00:56:55,319 Speaker 1: max contracts. Klay Thompson made eighty million dollars, didn't play 1078 00:56:55,320 --> 00:56:58,080 Speaker 1: a game in the NBA for two straight years. It's 1079 00:56:58,239 --> 00:57:00,919 Speaker 1: it's the best business proposition in the history of the league. 1080 00:57:00,960 --> 00:57:03,560 Speaker 1: Even though their guys are always bitching and moaning and complaining. 1081 00:57:04,280 --> 00:57:06,600 Speaker 1: You guys, wonder why you don't resonate like you used 1082 00:57:06,600 --> 00:57:08,640 Speaker 1: to with the fan base. I mean, come on, guys, 1083 00:57:09,640 --> 00:57:14,000 Speaker 1: But like I do just wonder if there's a softness 1084 00:57:14,040 --> 00:57:15,640 Speaker 1: to him. And speaking of the NBA, like part of 1085 00:57:15,680 --> 00:57:18,520 Speaker 1: the Warriors have some toughness, Like yeah, Draymond's kind of crazy, 1086 00:57:19,080 --> 00:57:21,320 Speaker 1: but he adds an element of toughness to them. Like 1087 00:57:21,680 --> 00:57:23,280 Speaker 1: when it gets nut cutting time and they get in 1088 00:57:23,280 --> 00:57:26,120 Speaker 1: big games, they usually pull it out partly because I 1089 00:57:26,120 --> 00:57:28,360 Speaker 1: mean a huge part because they have Steph and they 1090 00:57:28,400 --> 00:57:30,680 Speaker 1: also have him in the trenches with him, like you 1091 00:57:30,760 --> 00:57:33,360 Speaker 1: kind of need to be a little crazy. I watched 1092 00:57:33,400 --> 00:57:36,480 Speaker 1: Tom Brady, tom Brady's crazy. I watched Josh Allen and 1093 00:57:36,520 --> 00:57:38,400 Speaker 1: Patrick Mahomes like they kind of feel like they got 1094 00:57:38,400 --> 00:57:41,960 Speaker 1: that crazy. You know, we're gonna find out, Like if 1095 00:57:42,040 --> 00:57:43,880 Speaker 1: Jalen Hurts has it. I know the Eagles kind of 1096 00:57:43,880 --> 00:57:47,120 Speaker 1: think he think he does. Like Rogers felt like he 1097 00:57:47,160 --> 00:57:49,360 Speaker 1: had it for a minute and now he's just I 1098 00:57:49,400 --> 00:57:51,600 Speaker 1: don't know. I'm not saying he's going through the motions, 1099 00:57:51,680 --> 00:57:55,720 Speaker 1: but I put it a little bit more on him 1100 00:57:55,760 --> 00:58:20,880 Speaker 1: than the floor. I really do that. The volume