Speaker 1: Good morning peeps, and welcome to Bokay f Daily with
Speaker 1: me your girl, Danielle Moody recording from the Homebunker. Folks,
Speaker 1: you know, dare I say as we begin this new
Speaker 1: week that I have a bit of what is that
Speaker 1: word optimism? I have a bit of optimism that I
Speaker 1: want us all to really marinate and root. And because
Speaker 1: you know, folks, unlike what Republicans believe, which is that
Speaker 1: fear and hate rule the day, it isn't right. It
Speaker 1: is really about hopefulness. Hopefulness is what allows people to
Speaker 1: think and innovate off of what they believe the future
Speaker 1: can look like. Right, It is this grain of feeling
Speaker 1: that things can actually get better because you see, what
Speaker 1: happens is that when you start to believe that what
Speaker 1: is in front of you can't change, that it is immovable,
Speaker 1: that this is just your life. It doesn't matter if
Speaker 1: you work harder, it doesn't matter if you follow the rules,
Speaker 1: it doesn't matter if you do the right thing. That
Speaker 1: things are just not going to get any better. That
Speaker 1: is when hopelessness seeps in, depression takes over. Anxiety rules
Speaker 1: the day. And if you are so enthralled with that
Speaker 1: level of misery, right, then you no longer have the
Speaker 1: will to fight, because what are you fighting for? Nothing's
Speaker 1: ever going to quote unquote change. That's what Republicans are
Speaker 1: hoping for. They are hoping to throw every single thing
Speaker 1: at the core. Its every single piece of disgusting, horrific
Speaker 1: anti woman, anti black, anti gay, anti trans legislation at
Speaker 1: the state, local, and federal level. They are trying to
Speaker 1: do everything because they know that when Americans, when people
Speaker 1: start to really nurture that grain of hope, right and
Speaker 1: it starts to take root in us and we start
Speaker 1: to see a way through some possibility, some light tunneling
Speaker 1: out of that darkness, they start to run scared. Right,
Speaker 1: So what are we seeing right now? What are these
Speaker 1: glimmers of hope that I kind of want to center
Speaker 1: us around. As we enter into this new week, and
Speaker 1: it is going off of how we ended last week,
Speaker 1: blockbustered jobs report comes out from the Biden administration, adding
Speaker 1: over half a million jobs. As all of this talk
Speaker 1: about recession, US going into recession? Are we in a recession?
Speaker 1: Over five hundred thousand jobs have been added the more
Speaker 1: during Biden's first year plus than any other administration, and
Speaker 1: that is coming in off of considerable millions of jobs
Speaker 1: lost because of COVID nineteen, because of the pandemic, and
Speaker 1: because of the Trump administration's mishandling of pretty much everything,
Speaker 1: we are now at a surplus. A question that, though
Speaker 1: was asked, was posed rather by former candidate Nina Turner
Speaker 1: out of Ohio, though, was can we get a wage report?
Speaker 1: And it's true because we are always economists are always
Speaker 1: so focused on jobs reports, we don't ever stop to
Speaker 1: ask that if the jobs that are being supplied are
Speaker 1: those that are of a living wage, how many jobs
Speaker 1: do people need to hold down in order to be
Speaker 1: able to put food on their table, gas in their car,
Speaker 1: medicine in their medicine, chess, and take care of their
Speaker 1: other basic needs. So that is still a very good question,
Speaker 1: because we know that with inflation, things have become increasingly
Speaker 1: more expensive. Your grocery bill has become increasingly more expensive,
Speaker 1: and yet the wages have not gone up to meet
Speaker 1: right the price hikes. So that's a good question, But
Speaker 1: it is not to downplay the fact that this administration
Speaker 1: has been able to add all of the jobs back
Speaker 1: that were lost. So bravo to the Biden administration. We're
Speaker 1: going to pass the Inflation Reduction Act, which includes some
Speaker 1: of the biggest climate fighting initiatives, climate change fighting initiatives
Speaker 1: that we've ever seen. Now, Kirsten Cinema, who is in
Speaker 1: bed with and in love with corporate interests, had removed
Speaker 1: from the bill which would have added a fourteen billion
Speaker 1: dollars surplus, which was an interest tax on private equity firms.
Speaker 1: And of course she had that removed because Kirsten Cinema
Speaker 1: is setting up her next act right while she's still
Speaker 1: supposedly doing the job that she was elected for, not
Speaker 1: by shareholders but by the people of Arizona. She had
Speaker 1: that piece removed. Anytime that we ask ourselves why is
Speaker 1: it that billionaires and multimillionaires don't pay their share, Well,
Speaker 1: it's because of the cinemas of the world, right. It
Speaker 1: is because those people that you elect to actually look
Speaker 1: after your best interests are only looking after their own
Speaker 1: self interest, right, And it isn't like, here's the thing.
Speaker 1: If you're able to skirt the law, if you're able
Speaker 1: to keep most of your money right and not give
Speaker 1: back because you're greedy, because you're selfish, because you're a
Speaker 1: capitalistic pig, then you go do that, right, because you
Speaker 1: feel like you don't know anybody anything, And we always
Speaker 1: set up the rich to believe that they got to
Speaker 1: that place all on their own. Bullshit. Tell me a
Speaker 1: story about a multibillionaire, and I will tell you a
Speaker 1: story about people that stepped on other people's backs. There
Speaker 1: are but a few people who you can actually lift
Speaker 1: up and say no, No, they got there through work,
Speaker 1: sweat and tears, not by oh, making money on top
Speaker 1: of their inheritance. Right, I digress. But I have to
Speaker 1: mention the good but also state the obvious, because I
Speaker 1: want us to have the full picture of where we are.
Speaker 1: The Department of Justice has decided after the twenty twenty
Speaker 1: murder of Brianna Taylor two put up charges against the
Speaker 1: four cops that were responsible for her tragic death when
Speaker 1: they I don't even want to use the word botched
Speaker 1: because that isn't strong enough a steakout that would end
Speaker 1: in being at the wrong fucking home and killing an
Speaker 1: innocent young woman who had her whole life in front
Speaker 1: of her. Those cops, some that were fired from the
Speaker 1: force and some that are still active duty in Louisville, Kentucky,
Speaker 1: are now facing federal charges of violating Brianna Taylor's civil rights,
Speaker 1: among other things. That is good news. The Department of
Speaker 1: Justice has also signaled with their grand jury that they
Speaker 1: are hauling in some of the top brass lawyers chiefs
Speaker 1: of staff from the Trump administration in their investigation into
Speaker 1: the January sixth insurrection. For eighteen nineteen months now, I
Speaker 1: have been railing against Merritt Garland in the Department of
Speaker 1: Justice for their sloth and glacial like pace. Well, come
Speaker 1: to find out they may actually be moving. The alarm
Speaker 1: clock may have gone off, and what these high profiled
Speaker 1: subpoenas are showing us is that they're getting to the
Speaker 1: there there. And there are multiple reports coming out about
Speaker 1: Trump's defense team getting ready to put together their defense
Speaker 1: telling Donald Trump to cut ties and communication with Mark Meadows.
Speaker 1: What is that special reporting signal that we heard from
Speaker 1: CNN signal that Glenn Kirshner will get into in just
Speaker 1: a bit. Mark Meadows may be flipping like a pancake, right.
Speaker 1: Mark Meadows may have finally after listening to the testimony
Speaker 1: of Cassidy Hutchinson, his former aide before the January sixth committee,
Speaker 1: might realize that, oh shit, I could be headed to
Speaker 1: federal prison, and how do I lessen what is coming
Speaker 1: at me? Maybe it's time to start singing. Another sign
Speaker 1: of good news on the insurrectionist front. Well, thank god
Speaker 1: for stupidity. Alex Jones as lawyers accidentally sent two fucking
Speaker 1: years of his text messages two opposing counsel in his
Speaker 1: trial with a Sandy Hook family who is charging him
Speaker 1: with a civil suit for his lies against their dead child.
Speaker 1: What we know right now is that the January sixth
Speaker 1: Committee has subpoenaed those very text messages. The Department of
Speaker 1: Justice wants those text messages, the FBI wants those text messages.
Speaker 1: And what is being said thus far is that rumor
Speaker 1: has it child pornography was found on Alex Jones's phone,
Speaker 1: which is a federal crime intimate. I don't know what
Speaker 1: this means, but timt exchanges between Alex Jones and Roger
Speaker 1: Stone are also available in that treasure, trolls of text messages,
Speaker 1: which I'm sure in the coming weeks we are going
Speaker 1: to see in more detail. And God, get the popcorn ready,
Speaker 1: because I cannot wait. I cannot wait to see what
Speaker 1: is inside. But coming up next to walk us through
Speaker 1: where we are with the Alex Jones case and where
Speaker 1: we are with the January sixth Committee and the Department
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Speaker 1: As always, anytime that I have the opportunity to sit
Speaker 1: down weekly with our friend host of Justice Matters, Glenn
Speaker 1: Kirshner and MSNBC legal analyst, I'm elated because I get
Speaker 1: to dig into all of the things that I don't know,
Speaker 1: and I get my own one oh one legal class
Speaker 1: every every week with Glenn. I want to start out,
Speaker 1: Glenn with the biggest trial, one of the biggest trials,
Speaker 1: because God, there's been so many that we've been paying
Speaker 1: attention to. Which is that of Alex Jones. Alex Jones,
Speaker 1: host of Info Wars, made it his mission over the
Speaker 1: course of ten years to smear I don't even smear
Speaker 1: is not even a strong enough war. Glenn to what
Speaker 1: Alex Jones did to the families of Sandy Hook, the children,
Speaker 1: six year olds, kindergartner's, first graders, and their teachers that
Speaker 1: were gunned down in their classrooms. If you can believe it,
Speaker 1: nearly nearly ten years ago, Alex Jones made it his mission, folks,
Speaker 1: to create conspiracy theories, lie say that the families were actors,
Speaker 1: the murders never happened. And finally they were able to
Speaker 1: get Alex Jones into court, suing him in civil court
Speaker 1: one hundred and fifty million dollars for the trauma, the damages.
Speaker 1: I mean, these families were receiving death threats right from
Speaker 1: his rabid followers. So in this case, Glenn, you had
Speaker 1: been watching because Alex Jones, as we all know, is
Speaker 1: very connected with the Trump circle, right one of Donald
Speaker 1: Trump's biggest supporters, Roger Stone. Like, they're all just birds
Speaker 1: of a nasty feather that flocked together. So I want
Speaker 1: you to lay out what you saw about this case,
Speaker 1: and then we can go into this series of just
Speaker 1: reality TV turn of events that happened throughout the trial. Yeah,
Speaker 1: first of all, anybody who profits off the pain of
Speaker 1: the Sandy Hook families is there really is no term
Speaker 1: to describe how indecent he is. And it's all performance,
Speaker 1: aren't mind you? I don't I have no idea what
Speaker 1: he actually believes, but I think he actually believes very
Speaker 1: little of what he says. It's all about the almighty dollar,
Speaker 1: because he plugs into the conspiracy theory dujure, and he says,
Speaker 1: send me money, send me money, send me money, and
Speaker 1: I'll say whatever where it is you want to hear um.
Speaker 1: So I mean, the man is lower than whale shit,
Speaker 1: quite frankly, and doesn't get much lower than that. But
Speaker 1: you know what, profiting off the murder of children? Yep? Oh,
Speaker 1: if I could get him in the boxing ring for
Speaker 1: a fair fight. So you know you saw some really
Speaker 1: poor lawyer lawyering Danielle. Now you know, civil trials um
Speaker 1: can tend to spin out of control, you know, whereas
Speaker 1: criminal trials, depending on the judge, are usually much more
Speaker 1: closely regulated proceedings. You're dealing with somebody's liberty interest, a
Speaker 1: defendant who's on trial for his or our liberty or,
Speaker 1: in the rare case of a capital prosecution, their life.
Speaker 1: But in civil court, you know, it often feels like this,
Speaker 1: No whole barred. The rules don't really apply. I will
Speaker 1: violate the rules over and over again, regardless of how
Speaker 1: many times the judge yells at me, counsels me, admonishes me.
Speaker 1: That's what we saw. I mean, Alex Jones is just
Speaker 1: it was a pathetic performance, of course, So let's talk
Speaker 1: about the damages first. Because my understanding, and I hope
Speaker 1: you'll correct me if I'm wrong, I didn't follow it
Speaker 1: as closely as I was following all things January sixth,
Speaker 1: because there's been some really important developments there. They awarded
Speaker 1: the jury awarded I believe four million dollars in compensatory
Speaker 1: damages yesterday, and the deliberations will continue on punitive damages.
Speaker 1: Let me just break down what those two things are.
Speaker 1: Compensatory damages are awarded to this sounds ridiculous. But to
Speaker 1: try to estimate the life of the child, what would
Speaker 1: the child this sounds crass. I've never been a civil practitioner.
Speaker 1: What might that child have earned over his or her lifetime?
Speaker 1: So such that you know the family and the child,
Speaker 1: of course, has been deprived of making that money. Those
Speaker 1: are compensatory damages. You're being compensated for money that you
Speaker 1: basically stole by committing this murder, or in Alex Jones case,
Speaker 1: by lying about and defaming the victims and their families.
Speaker 1: But then there's punitive damages. Punitive damages are punishment for
Speaker 1: the horrific lies that Alex Jones told in the untold
Speaker 1: damage he did to those families by telling those lies.
Speaker 1: I know the families have sued for one hundred and
Speaker 1: fifty million dollars. So my assumption is the next verdict
Speaker 1: or finding of the jury will be the punitive damage
Speaker 1: is part how badly should he be punished for what
Speaker 1: he put those families through. One fifty million dollars doesn't
Speaker 1: sound like enough. It could be one hundred and fifty
Speaker 1: billion dollars for what he did to these families. But
Speaker 1: you know, I think whatever the ultimate finding is with
Speaker 1: respect to money that he owes for his horrific behavior,
Speaker 1: it will bankrupt him. It will probably you know, put
Speaker 1: him in the fact pauper's prison the rest of his life.
Speaker 1: At least that's what I'm hoping. And then if you
Speaker 1: want to talk about one of the world's biggest legal
Speaker 1: bungles ever, please his Alex Jones lawyers. According to what
Speaker 1: we've seen reported inadvertently gave the plaintift lawyers, the lawyers
Speaker 1: for the Sandy Hook families, his whole cell phone. How
Speaker 1: two years, two years worth does that happen? You know?
Speaker 1: When it comes to electronic discovery and electronic evidence, I
Speaker 1: am the last one to pretend like I know all
Speaker 1: the ins and outs. What I do know is that
Speaker 1: we used to have our forensic experts, our electronics experts,
Speaker 1: do lots of forensic searches of computers and cell phones.
Speaker 1: They would generate information that, if you printed it out,
Speaker 1: would fill the Library of Congress for one cell phone.
Speaker 1: It's insane. They would put it on various discs and
Speaker 1: thumb drives and floppy disks or whatever back in the day,
Speaker 1: and then we would have to give over what we
Speaker 1: would have to give over in discovery to opposing counsels.
Speaker 1: It's not a simple, straightforward proposition, especially for somebody who
Speaker 1: is eat incompetent like me. So I'm not going to say, listen,
Speaker 1: it's a horrific mistake, you know. But what I love
Speaker 1: about it is it puts all the lies to everything
Speaker 1: Alex Jones has been saying and testifying about, which means
Speaker 1: he's now open to possible clinal perjury charges. But the
Speaker 1: last two years of his text messages, how close was
Speaker 1: he with Steve Bannon and Roger Stone and Mike Flynn
Speaker 1: and Rudy Giuliani. And do you think, Danielle for a minute,
Speaker 1: he and Donald Trump weren't communicating somewhere somehow because Alex
Speaker 1: Jones had a big audience. Alex Jones message was pro Trump,
Speaker 1: and I have a feeling this could be a treasure
Speaker 1: trove for both the j six Committee because they're seeking
Speaker 1: to get their ants on Alex Jones text messages, and
Speaker 1: then ultimately for the federal grand jury that has all
Speaker 1: of a sudden, you know, been prodded into wakefulness and
Speaker 1: they're going gangbusters bringing in extraordinarily high profile witnesses to
Speaker 1: testify before the grand jury, like White House cow patsa Boloney.
Speaker 1: So let's let's transition into from Alex Jones. We will
Speaker 1: know more about his fate come next week when when
Speaker 1: the punitive damages are are decided. And it was thankful
Speaker 1: to me for the people that follow me on Twitter,
Speaker 1: because I was outraged by only four million dollars and
Speaker 1: then folks who are like, don't worry, Dannie Hell don't worry.
Speaker 1: It is not just gonna be for me because I
Speaker 1: I came to find out, like everybody else, Alex Jones,
Speaker 1: who was making eight hundred thousand dollars a day selling
Speaker 1: bullshit on his Info Wars, selling survival food and gun paraphernalia,
Speaker 1: I had no idea that white supremacy and stupidity were
Speaker 1: so lucrative. I had no idea. So I'm like, oh,
Speaker 1: he definitely has this money that he can come off
Speaker 1: of for those families and what he did to them.
Speaker 1: But I want to transition now to January sixth because
Speaker 1: you and I for you know, god knows how long
Speaker 1: now almost two years since the insurrection, almost two years
Speaker 1: we've been waiting for the Department of Justice to activate,
Speaker 1: to activate in the way that the January sixth Committee
Speaker 1: has activated. And like you have said, they have woken
Speaker 1: from their slumber right and it is as if the
Speaker 1: alarm clock has gone off there. So walk us through, Glen.
Speaker 1: What we have learned over the last week about where
Speaker 1: the Department of Justice is right now is it is
Speaker 1: it in parallel with where the January sixth Committee is.
Speaker 1: Are they still lagging behind because the January sixth Committee
Speaker 1: obviously has been working since January six, right, so they've
Speaker 1: been working for the last eighteen almost nineteen months now.
Speaker 1: So what does it look. Where are we with where
Speaker 1: the Department of Justice is on January six? Well, we're
Speaker 1: in a much better place now than we were a
Speaker 1: few months ago. And I want to just tweak my
Speaker 1: snarky comment of a few minutes ago that they've been
Speaker 1: prodded into wakefulness, because that's my frustration talking. But let's
Speaker 1: also be fair to the Department of Justice. I'm speaking
Speaker 1: to myself now. We learned recently that back in April,
Speaker 1: the Federal Brand Jury had subpoened and received Mark Meadows
Speaker 1: cell phone records. We didn't know that that had been
Speaker 1: going on. And what I can promise you, Danielle, that
Speaker 1: wasn't the first significant step DJ took that we knew
Speaker 1: nothing about. So it has been going on for a
Speaker 1: very long time, and whatever they've been doing behind the scenes,
Speaker 1: they have now decided tactically that the time is right
Speaker 1: to start subpoenaing the highest of the high profile witnesses
Speaker 1: because they knew everything would get out precisely as it
Speaker 1: has been getting out now. For example, when Mark Short,
Speaker 1: Vice President former Vice President Pence's chief of staff was
Speaker 1: subpoena to the grand jury. What did he do? He
Speaker 1: ran to the Washington Post Carol Lennig, and I'm glad
Speaker 1: he did, and he said, let me tell you what
Speaker 1: the federal prosecutors are asking me in the grand jury.
Speaker 1: So that's the point where the cat's out of the bag.
Speaker 1: And what I'm hoping is DJ has done everything it
Speaker 1: could do behind the scenes before coming to this moment
Speaker 1: in time. Doesn't mean they've been doing nothing, okay, even
Speaker 1: though I'm so frustrated that they seem to be moving
Speaker 1: too slowly and there's been no overt law enforcement activity
Speaker 1: to lock people up, like people who are tampering with witnesses,
Speaker 1: because that's the kind of stuff you have to address
Speaker 1: in real and you don't delay when it comes to
Speaker 1: witness tampering. See, I'm going off on eleven tangents already.
Speaker 1: I'm gonna try to pull myself back. So what we
Speaker 1: learned that was actually pretty earth shattering this past week
Speaker 1: is White House Counsel Pat Sippoloni and the depth the
Speaker 1: White House Council, whose name is escaping me, it will
Speaker 1: come to me, have been subpoena to the grand jury.
Speaker 1: The reason and I did a couple of videos, and
Speaker 1: I've been talking on air with Joy and others in
Speaker 1: recent days about why it is such a dramatic difference
Speaker 1: when a White House Council testifies to the January sixth committee,
Speaker 1: which we know he did, We saw that, and to
Speaker 1: the federal grand jury, because people might be inclined to say, look,
Speaker 1: testimony's testimony, he's done at once, what's the big deal
Speaker 1: the difference between testifying to a congressional committee and testifying
Speaker 1: to a federal grand jury, like night and day, because
Speaker 1: we saw Pat Sippoloni and some video tape testimony that
Speaker 1: was part of the j six public hearings, refused to
Speaker 1: answer questions about Donald Trump's primes, about Donald Trump's conduct,
Speaker 1: about Donald Trump's statements invoking executive privilege. And there's a
Speaker 1: little bit of a silver lining behind that dark cloud,
Speaker 1: because remember how there would be a really hot button
Speaker 1: question that was seeking information about Donald Trump's responsibility for
Speaker 1: the insurrection. Pat sippalone would look over it as lawyer,
Speaker 1: and as lawyer would give him like one of these
Speaker 1: motions as if to say, you can't talk about that,
Speaker 1: and Pat sippalone would go, yeah, I guess that's all
Speaker 1: I can say. You know, I'm overstating a little but
Speaker 1: only a little bit, because that was the message that
Speaker 1: was watched that back and forth. Right. And here's the thing.
Speaker 1: The January sixth Committee has zero power work to test
Speaker 1: and overcome that assertion of privilege and compel an answer.
Speaker 1: But the federal grand jury has tons of power to test, overcome,
Speaker 1: and compel an answer in real time. That's why these
Speaker 1: two settings are so dramatically different, because the Federal grand
Speaker 1: jury is going to get all the good stuff that
Speaker 1: the j sixth Committee couldn't get. And let me just
Speaker 1: tell your viewers thirty seconds of how that happens. Because
Speaker 1: I've litigated privileges in the grand jury a bunch over
Speaker 1: my thirty years as a prosecutor. So when a witness
Speaker 1: is in the grand jury, I refuse to answer that
Speaker 1: question why attorney client privilege, spousal privilege, Fifth Amendment, privilege
Speaker 1: against self incrimination, executive privilege, doccupation privilege, priest parishioner. There's
Speaker 1: lots of privileges, and they're legitimate privileges in a law.
Speaker 1: But guess what a lot of people invoke those privileges
Speaker 1: because they don't want to testify. They don't want to
Speaker 1: knock out their friend or their criminal associate, so they
Speaker 1: just throw that up as as a roadblock to prosecutors
Speaker 1: getting the information. You know what we do. We walked
Speaker 1: over to the chief Judge's chambers in this case, it
Speaker 1: would be Chief Judge Beryl Howell of the Federal District
Speaker 1: Court in DC, and we litigate the privilege in real time.
Speaker 1: I mean literally, all this happens within a matter of dates.
Speaker 1: So it's not, for instance, oh we go back, we
Speaker 1: come bet like it's this elongated. This is truncated. You're
Speaker 1: able to really do this at the moment and say, well,
Speaker 1: let's talk about this privilege and then move forward. It
Speaker 1: ain't Don McGan running out the clock for two years
Speaker 1: the way he did trying to fight having to testify
Speaker 1: before Congress, because this is a very different setting. There's
Speaker 1: a need for this criminal evidence right now, and so
Speaker 1: the system is set up to resolve the issue right now,
Speaker 1: which a congressional committee can't do. They can try to
Speaker 1: bring suit in a civil suit in court to compel
Speaker 1: the testimony, and then that takes years and years and years.
Speaker 1: So here's what Beryl Howell. I would bet a buck
Speaker 1: of my own money. You know I'm not a high roller.
Speaker 1: That's my betting limit. I would bet a buck that
Speaker 1: Beryl Howell would say, Wait a minute. One, the president
Speaker 1: hasn't invoked the privilege, and Donald Trump ain't the president.
Speaker 1: It's Joe Biden. One. The privilege is waived, Pat zippolone.
Speaker 1: Two crime odd exception. Pat sippolone. Donald Trump was talking
Speaker 1: about crimes, so belt and suspenders. There's two reasons, and
Speaker 1: there's a third, which is escaping me at the moment.
Speaker 1: But I'll pop into my head and so I predict
Speaker 1: she will order him. She'll say, the privilege yields. Appreciate
Speaker 1: your attempt to assert it. I'm ordering you to testify
Speaker 1: before the grand jury. And here's the beauty of that.
Speaker 1: And I want to go back to what we were
Speaker 1: talking about a minute ago, when Pat Sippoloni would look
Speaker 1: over at as lawyer and Pat sippalone would be like,
Speaker 1: I guess I can't say anything more. Once Judge Beryl
Speaker 1: Howell orders him to testify, he has one hundred percent
Speaker 1: legal cover. He's bulletproof. Nobody can say he violated any
Speaker 1: privilege because the privilege was litigated and laid the rest
Speaker 1: by the chief Judge and he's protected. So he can
Speaker 1: go in and say Donald Trump did this and did
Speaker 1: this and said this and directed us to try to
Speaker 1: do this and said this to Mike Pence, and he
Speaker 1: is ft once all that stuff comes tumbling out. And
Speaker 1: so that's why it's so different. This is not more
Speaker 1: of the same. All testimony is not created equal. And
Speaker 1: then the last thing I want to kind of throw
Speaker 1: into the mix is last night's reporting on CNN where
Speaker 1: and it was buried down in the article, but I'm
Speaker 1: going to do a video about it today. Donald Trump
Speaker 1: has been counseled, now they don't say by his defense team,
Speaker 1: but I think that's probably who was counseling him. Donald
Speaker 1: Trump has been counseled to cut all ties and have
Speaker 1: no communication with Mark Meadows. What does that tell us,
Speaker 1: Marcus flipping bingo bingo? That is the reasonable inference you
Speaker 1: can draw from that reporting. Once that domino falls, it's on,
Speaker 1: it's on, and I love the reporting and Rolling Stone
Speaker 1: a few days ago that Donald Trump's defense team is
Speaker 1: coming up with a legal strategy that involves putting it
Speaker 1: all on fall. Guys, that's a meadow, meadow, Rudy, you
Speaker 1: name it. So I think I I think it's happening.
Speaker 1: I think it's happening. So here's a question. Because this,
Speaker 1: this I did not know because you know, sometimes I
Speaker 1: like to sleep, So this I did not know. Now
Speaker 1: about Mark Meadows, uh and Trump? Um, Cassidy Hutchinson had
Speaker 1: said that Mark was in his office burning papers, right, Um,
Speaker 1: the day of the insurrection. Right, he's in there burning papers.
Speaker 1: He was also in there we know from that wild
Speaker 1: I think it was December thirteenth or December eighteenth meeting, right,
Speaker 1: the one that was absolutely crazy, um, looking for constant
Speaker 1: institutional ways for Donald Trump to stay in power. So
Speaker 1: paint us a little picture about Mark Meadows and what
Speaker 1: kind of trouble Mark Meadows could be facing on his
Speaker 1: own for this man to go from burning papers and
Speaker 1: looking for the constitution loopholes to then being like, you
Speaker 1: know what, I think, I think it's time. I think
Speaker 1: it's time that I that I give it up, that
Speaker 1: I give up the ghost. Right, what paint us to
Speaker 1: what what could be could potentially hypothetically be going on.
Speaker 1: So here's my prediction, um, And as an asside. When
Speaker 1: I was at the US Attorney's office in DC, one
Speaker 1: of my nicknames they weren't all flattering, trust me, was
Speaker 1: King of the Cooperators. That was not a compliment, mind you.
Speaker 1: You know that's that's basically saying. You know, you deal
Speaker 1: with a lot of criminals in your prosecutions. And when
Speaker 1: I say King of the cooperators, frankly, I loved working
Speaker 1: with cooperating witnesses because they were my de facto experts
Speaker 1: on crime in Washington, DC, because that was their life.
Speaker 1: So I would work with them. I would get one
Speaker 1: hundred percent of the truth out of them about their
Speaker 1: crimes and then about the crimes of others. Then I
Speaker 1: would make them plead guilty to their crimes. I wouldn't
Speaker 1: make them, but this was the deal they got. You
Speaker 1: plead guilty to your crimes. You work night and day
Speaker 1: to help me bring others to justice for their crimes.
Speaker 1: And then at your sentencing hearing, I'm standing shoulder to
Speaker 1: shoulder with you figuratively speaking, and I am telling that
Speaker 1: judge who was about to sentence you about all the
Speaker 1: hard work you did to try to make right what
Speaker 1: you did wrong for all those years. You're still going
Speaker 1: to prison. Hey don't you don't get a free pass
Speaker 1: for your crimes. But your sentence might not be life.
Speaker 1: Your sentence might be ten years in prison. And you
Speaker 1: know you're forty years old, thirty years old. You will
Speaker 1: still have a life to live on the outside, and
Speaker 1: you will be able to sleep at night knowing that
Speaker 1: you made a change in your life and tried to
Speaker 1: do the right thing moving forward. That's Mark Meadows, Mark Medick.
Speaker 1: Here's my prediction. Mark Meadows goes to prison, but he
Speaker 1: goes to prison for a shorter period of time as
Speaker 1: opposed to a longer period of time, because he flips
Speaker 1: on Donald Trump and tries to make right all of
Speaker 1: the things he did wrong for so many years, like
Speaker 1: voter fraud in North Carolina that will be rolled into
Speaker 1: the mix, and all of the enabling that he did
Speaker 1: with and for Donald Trump to try to corruptly overturn
Speaker 1: the elections results. For God six, he was treason central
Speaker 1: taking all these phone calls and text messages from members
Speaker 1: of Congress, Jenny Thomas and I love using Jenny Thomas's
Speaker 1: own tweet against her and against Mark Meadows. She said basically,
Speaker 1: I'm going to paraphrase. You have to overturn the elections
Speaker 1: results because there are ballot fraudsters being detained on barge's
Speaker 1: outside of Gitmo right now awaiting their military tribunals for sedition. Mark,
Speaker 1: So you need to overturn the elections results. I mean,
Speaker 1: what kind of craziness is that? But what does Mark
Speaker 1: Meadows do? He receives that information and says, King of Kings,
Speaker 1: where with you? We're going to reinstall Donald Trump. That's
Speaker 1: a conspiracy to commit offenses against the United States. That's
Speaker 1: one text message that doesn't even go to him burning
Speaker 1: government records, It doesn't go There's so much and that's
Speaker 1: why I think Donald Trump has been canceled. You do
Speaker 1: not talk to Mark Meadows anymore. So I think we're
Speaker 1: on track. I think we're on track. I mean, I'm
Speaker 1: going to say this as my as my final note.
Speaker 1: It seems and let me be cautiously optimistic, ye of
Speaker 1: little faith that I am, But it seems as if
Speaker 1: the thread has been pulled and that we're going to
Speaker 1: see very I hope quickly or quicker than we have
Speaker 1: things start to fall apart for Donald Trump and all
Speaker 1: of these people. And I believe that Alex Jones is
Speaker 1: treas Er Trove is going to be just that. I
Speaker 1: think it's going to be eye opening. I think it's
Speaker 1: going to be a bag of crazy. It's going to
Speaker 1: be good and I hate to talk and run. I
Speaker 1: got to run. I appreciate you, Glenn, Thank you so
Speaker 1: very see you next week. All right bye. That is
Speaker 1: it for me today, dear friends on woke up as always,
Speaker 1: Power to the people and to all the people. Power,
Speaker 1: get woke and stay woke as fuck.