1 00:00:11,840 --> 00:00:14,680 Speaker 1: Good morning peeps, and welcome to Bokay f Daily with 2 00:00:14,720 --> 00:00:19,640 Speaker 1: me your girl, Danielle Moody recording from the Homebunker. Folks, 3 00:00:19,760 --> 00:00:24,000 Speaker 1: you know, dare I say as we begin this new 4 00:00:24,040 --> 00:00:28,080 Speaker 1: week that I have a bit of what is that 5 00:00:28,120 --> 00:00:33,800 Speaker 1: word optimism? I have a bit of optimism that I 6 00:00:33,880 --> 00:00:39,320 Speaker 1: want us all to really marinate and root. And because 7 00:00:39,440 --> 00:00:44,519 Speaker 1: you know, folks, unlike what Republicans believe, which is that 8 00:00:44,760 --> 00:00:49,879 Speaker 1: fear and hate rule the day, it isn't right. It 9 00:00:50,040 --> 00:00:55,200 Speaker 1: is really about hopefulness. Hopefulness is what allows people to 10 00:00:55,240 --> 00:00:59,560 Speaker 1: think and innovate off of what they believe the future 11 00:00:59,720 --> 00:01:08,160 Speaker 1: can look like. Right, It is this grain of feeling 12 00:01:08,440 --> 00:01:11,319 Speaker 1: that things can actually get better because you see, what 13 00:01:11,400 --> 00:01:15,720 Speaker 1: happens is that when you start to believe that what 14 00:01:15,920 --> 00:01:18,880 Speaker 1: is in front of you can't change, that it is immovable, 15 00:01:19,600 --> 00:01:22,800 Speaker 1: that this is just your life. It doesn't matter if 16 00:01:22,840 --> 00:01:25,880 Speaker 1: you work harder, it doesn't matter if you follow the rules, 17 00:01:25,920 --> 00:01:27,720 Speaker 1: it doesn't matter if you do the right thing. That 18 00:01:27,840 --> 00:01:31,000 Speaker 1: things are just not going to get any better. That 19 00:01:31,120 --> 00:01:37,240 Speaker 1: is when hopelessness seeps in, depression takes over. Anxiety rules 20 00:01:37,280 --> 00:01:41,720 Speaker 1: the day. And if you are so enthralled with that 21 00:01:42,000 --> 00:01:46,600 Speaker 1: level of misery, right, then you no longer have the 22 00:01:46,680 --> 00:01:50,040 Speaker 1: will to fight, because what are you fighting for? Nothing's 23 00:01:50,080 --> 00:01:54,600 Speaker 1: ever going to quote unquote change. That's what Republicans are 24 00:01:54,640 --> 00:01:58,840 Speaker 1: hoping for. They are hoping to throw every single thing 25 00:01:59,360 --> 00:02:04,680 Speaker 1: at the core. Its every single piece of disgusting, horrific 26 00:02:05,160 --> 00:02:11,320 Speaker 1: anti woman, anti black, anti gay, anti trans legislation at 27 00:02:11,360 --> 00:02:14,880 Speaker 1: the state, local, and federal level. They are trying to 28 00:02:14,960 --> 00:02:22,280 Speaker 1: do everything because they know that when Americans, when people 29 00:02:23,680 --> 00:02:29,000 Speaker 1: start to really nurture that grain of hope, right and 30 00:02:29,160 --> 00:02:32,480 Speaker 1: it starts to take root in us and we start 31 00:02:32,520 --> 00:02:37,520 Speaker 1: to see a way through some possibility, some light tunneling 32 00:02:37,560 --> 00:02:42,880 Speaker 1: out of that darkness, they start to run scared. Right, 33 00:02:44,320 --> 00:02:47,560 Speaker 1: So what are we seeing right now? What are these 34 00:02:47,800 --> 00:02:50,840 Speaker 1: glimmers of hope that I kind of want to center 35 00:02:51,360 --> 00:02:55,040 Speaker 1: us around. As we enter into this new week, and 36 00:02:55,080 --> 00:02:58,320 Speaker 1: it is going off of how we ended last week, 37 00:02:59,160 --> 00:03:04,840 Speaker 1: blockbustered jobs report comes out from the Biden administration, adding 38 00:03:05,520 --> 00:03:10,520 Speaker 1: over half a million jobs. As all of this talk 39 00:03:10,600 --> 00:03:14,040 Speaker 1: about recession, US going into recession? Are we in a recession? 40 00:03:14,480 --> 00:03:19,720 Speaker 1: Over five hundred thousand jobs have been added the more 41 00:03:20,080 --> 00:03:27,600 Speaker 1: during Biden's first year plus than any other administration, and 42 00:03:27,680 --> 00:03:33,840 Speaker 1: that is coming in off of considerable millions of jobs 43 00:03:33,919 --> 00:03:38,480 Speaker 1: lost because of COVID nineteen, because of the pandemic, and 44 00:03:38,560 --> 00:03:42,800 Speaker 1: because of the Trump administration's mishandling of pretty much everything, 45 00:03:44,760 --> 00:03:48,600 Speaker 1: we are now at a surplus. A question that, though 46 00:03:48,760 --> 00:03:56,200 Speaker 1: was asked, was posed rather by former candidate Nina Turner 47 00:03:57,600 --> 00:04:00,960 Speaker 1: out of Ohio, though, was can we get a wage report? 48 00:04:02,640 --> 00:04:06,240 Speaker 1: And it's true because we are always economists are always 49 00:04:06,320 --> 00:04:09,920 Speaker 1: so focused on jobs reports, we don't ever stop to 50 00:04:09,960 --> 00:04:13,720 Speaker 1: ask that if the jobs that are being supplied are 51 00:04:13,800 --> 00:04:17,640 Speaker 1: those that are of a living wage, how many jobs 52 00:04:17,720 --> 00:04:19,919 Speaker 1: do people need to hold down in order to be 53 00:04:19,960 --> 00:04:22,400 Speaker 1: able to put food on their table, gas in their car, 54 00:04:22,640 --> 00:04:25,920 Speaker 1: medicine in their medicine, chess, and take care of their 55 00:04:25,960 --> 00:04:29,960 Speaker 1: other basic needs. So that is still a very good question, 56 00:04:30,000 --> 00:04:33,440 Speaker 1: because we know that with inflation, things have become increasingly 57 00:04:33,520 --> 00:04:38,440 Speaker 1: more expensive. Your grocery bill has become increasingly more expensive, 58 00:04:38,760 --> 00:04:42,000 Speaker 1: and yet the wages have not gone up to meet 59 00:04:42,760 --> 00:04:46,400 Speaker 1: right the price hikes. So that's a good question, But 60 00:04:46,440 --> 00:04:50,440 Speaker 1: it is not to downplay the fact that this administration 61 00:04:50,560 --> 00:04:55,080 Speaker 1: has been able to add all of the jobs back 62 00:04:55,160 --> 00:05:01,160 Speaker 1: that were lost. So bravo to the Biden administration. We're 63 00:05:01,200 --> 00:05:08,520 Speaker 1: going to pass the Inflation Reduction Act, which includes some 64 00:05:08,680 --> 00:05:15,720 Speaker 1: of the biggest climate fighting initiatives, climate change fighting initiatives 65 00:05:15,800 --> 00:05:20,840 Speaker 1: that we've ever seen. Now, Kirsten Cinema, who is in 66 00:05:20,960 --> 00:05:28,159 Speaker 1: bed with and in love with corporate interests, had removed 67 00:05:28,240 --> 00:05:31,080 Speaker 1: from the bill which would have added a fourteen billion 68 00:05:31,080 --> 00:05:35,680 Speaker 1: dollars surplus, which was an interest tax on private equity firms. 69 00:05:35,680 --> 00:05:39,640 Speaker 1: And of course she had that removed because Kirsten Cinema 70 00:05:39,760 --> 00:05:43,920 Speaker 1: is setting up her next act right while she's still 71 00:05:43,960 --> 00:05:47,479 Speaker 1: supposedly doing the job that she was elected for, not 72 00:05:47,600 --> 00:05:51,480 Speaker 1: by shareholders but by the people of Arizona. She had 73 00:05:51,520 --> 00:05:55,600 Speaker 1: that piece removed. Anytime that we ask ourselves why is 74 00:05:55,640 --> 00:06:00,760 Speaker 1: it that billionaires and multimillionaires don't pay their share, Well, 75 00:06:00,760 --> 00:06:03,680 Speaker 1: it's because of the cinemas of the world, right. It 76 00:06:03,760 --> 00:06:07,599 Speaker 1: is because those people that you elect to actually look 77 00:06:07,640 --> 00:06:11,039 Speaker 1: after your best interests are only looking after their own 78 00:06:11,400 --> 00:06:16,559 Speaker 1: self interest, right, And it isn't like, here's the thing. 79 00:06:17,040 --> 00:06:19,839 Speaker 1: If you're able to skirt the law, if you're able 80 00:06:19,960 --> 00:06:23,240 Speaker 1: to keep most of your money right and not give 81 00:06:23,320 --> 00:06:26,160 Speaker 1: back because you're greedy, because you're selfish, because you're a 82 00:06:26,200 --> 00:06:31,360 Speaker 1: capitalistic pig, then you go do that, right, because you 83 00:06:31,480 --> 00:06:34,720 Speaker 1: feel like you don't know anybody anything, And we always 84 00:06:34,800 --> 00:06:36,919 Speaker 1: set up the rich to believe that they got to 85 00:06:37,000 --> 00:06:40,680 Speaker 1: that place all on their own. Bullshit. Tell me a 86 00:06:40,760 --> 00:06:43,320 Speaker 1: story about a multibillionaire, and I will tell you a 87 00:06:43,400 --> 00:06:46,599 Speaker 1: story about people that stepped on other people's backs. There 88 00:06:46,600 --> 00:06:50,240 Speaker 1: are but a few people who you can actually lift 89 00:06:50,320 --> 00:06:53,880 Speaker 1: up and say no, No, they got there through work, 90 00:06:54,760 --> 00:06:58,640 Speaker 1: sweat and tears, not by oh, making money on top 91 00:06:58,720 --> 00:07:06,480 Speaker 1: of their inheritance. Right, I digress. But I have to 92 00:07:06,600 --> 00:07:10,560 Speaker 1: mention the good but also state the obvious, because I 93 00:07:10,640 --> 00:07:13,320 Speaker 1: want us to have the full picture of where we are. 94 00:07:14,640 --> 00:07:20,480 Speaker 1: The Department of Justice has decided after the twenty twenty 95 00:07:20,600 --> 00:07:26,200 Speaker 1: murder of Brianna Taylor two put up charges against the 96 00:07:26,240 --> 00:07:31,559 Speaker 1: four cops that were responsible for her tragic death when 97 00:07:31,760 --> 00:07:35,440 Speaker 1: they I don't even want to use the word botched 98 00:07:35,560 --> 00:07:40,480 Speaker 1: because that isn't strong enough a steakout that would end 99 00:07:40,680 --> 00:07:45,680 Speaker 1: in being at the wrong fucking home and killing an 100 00:07:45,720 --> 00:07:49,440 Speaker 1: innocent young woman who had her whole life in front 101 00:07:49,440 --> 00:07:55,320 Speaker 1: of her. Those cops, some that were fired from the 102 00:07:55,360 --> 00:07:59,000 Speaker 1: force and some that are still active duty in Louisville, Kentucky, 103 00:07:59,000 --> 00:08:05,680 Speaker 1: are now facing federal charges of violating Brianna Taylor's civil rights, 104 00:08:06,920 --> 00:08:12,560 Speaker 1: among other things. That is good news. The Department of 105 00:08:12,640 --> 00:08:16,760 Speaker 1: Justice has also signaled with their grand jury that they 106 00:08:16,800 --> 00:08:22,160 Speaker 1: are hauling in some of the top brass lawyers chiefs 107 00:08:22,200 --> 00:08:26,960 Speaker 1: of staff from the Trump administration in their investigation into 108 00:08:27,560 --> 00:08:34,200 Speaker 1: the January sixth insurrection. For eighteen nineteen months now, I 109 00:08:34,240 --> 00:08:37,560 Speaker 1: have been railing against Merritt Garland in the Department of 110 00:08:37,600 --> 00:08:44,720 Speaker 1: Justice for their sloth and glacial like pace. Well, come 111 00:08:44,800 --> 00:08:48,079 Speaker 1: to find out they may actually be moving. The alarm 112 00:08:48,080 --> 00:08:53,600 Speaker 1: clock may have gone off, and what these high profiled 113 00:08:53,720 --> 00:08:57,800 Speaker 1: subpoenas are showing us is that they're getting to the 114 00:08:57,880 --> 00:09:02,480 Speaker 1: there there. And there are multiple reports coming out about 115 00:09:02,559 --> 00:09:07,600 Speaker 1: Trump's defense team getting ready to put together their defense 116 00:09:08,120 --> 00:09:12,400 Speaker 1: telling Donald Trump to cut ties and communication with Mark Meadows. 117 00:09:12,960 --> 00:09:16,000 Speaker 1: What is that special reporting signal that we heard from 118 00:09:16,080 --> 00:09:19,200 Speaker 1: CNN signal that Glenn Kirshner will get into in just 119 00:09:19,360 --> 00:09:25,000 Speaker 1: a bit. Mark Meadows may be flipping like a pancake, right. 120 00:09:25,200 --> 00:09:29,880 Speaker 1: Mark Meadows may have finally after listening to the testimony 121 00:09:29,920 --> 00:09:35,840 Speaker 1: of Cassidy Hutchinson, his former aide before the January sixth committee, 122 00:09:35,920 --> 00:09:40,360 Speaker 1: might realize that, oh shit, I could be headed to 123 00:09:40,400 --> 00:09:46,120 Speaker 1: federal prison, and how do I lessen what is coming 124 00:09:46,120 --> 00:09:52,040 Speaker 1: at me? Maybe it's time to start singing. Another sign 125 00:09:52,240 --> 00:09:56,160 Speaker 1: of good news on the insurrectionist front. Well, thank god 126 00:09:56,240 --> 00:10:03,880 Speaker 1: for stupidity. Alex Jones as lawyers accidentally sent two fucking 127 00:10:04,280 --> 00:10:10,960 Speaker 1: years of his text messages two opposing counsel in his 128 00:10:11,240 --> 00:10:17,600 Speaker 1: trial with a Sandy Hook family who is charging him 129 00:10:18,520 --> 00:10:24,199 Speaker 1: with a civil suit for his lies against their dead child. 130 00:10:28,000 --> 00:10:31,160 Speaker 1: What we know right now is that the January sixth 131 00:10:31,160 --> 00:10:36,560 Speaker 1: Committee has subpoenaed those very text messages. The Department of 132 00:10:36,679 --> 00:10:42,520 Speaker 1: Justice wants those text messages, the FBI wants those text messages. 133 00:10:43,120 --> 00:10:48,800 Speaker 1: And what is being said thus far is that rumor 134 00:10:48,880 --> 00:10:54,560 Speaker 1: has it child pornography was found on Alex Jones's phone, 135 00:10:54,640 --> 00:10:58,720 Speaker 1: which is a federal crime intimate. I don't know what 136 00:10:58,840 --> 00:11:03,720 Speaker 1: this means, but timt exchanges between Alex Jones and Roger 137 00:11:03,840 --> 00:11:09,319 Speaker 1: Stone are also available in that treasure, trolls of text messages, 138 00:11:09,840 --> 00:11:13,880 Speaker 1: which I'm sure in the coming weeks we are going 139 00:11:13,960 --> 00:11:18,559 Speaker 1: to see in more detail. And God, get the popcorn ready, 140 00:11:18,559 --> 00:11:22,680 Speaker 1: because I cannot wait. I cannot wait to see what 141 00:11:22,840 --> 00:11:26,960 Speaker 1: is inside. But coming up next to walk us through 142 00:11:27,320 --> 00:11:30,560 Speaker 1: where we are with the Alex Jones case and where 143 00:11:30,600 --> 00:11:36,280 Speaker 1: we are with the January sixth Committee and the Department 144 00:11:36,280 --> 00:11:40,800 Speaker 1: of Justice's investigation is our friend host of Justice Matters, 145 00:11:41,000 --> 00:11:51,960 Speaker 1: Glenn Kirshner. 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I want to start out, 175 00:13:37,320 --> 00:13:40,640 Speaker 1: Glenn with the biggest trial, one of the biggest trials, 176 00:13:40,640 --> 00:13:43,520 Speaker 1: because God, there's been so many that we've been paying 177 00:13:43,520 --> 00:13:48,079 Speaker 1: attention to. Which is that of Alex Jones. Alex Jones, 178 00:13:48,320 --> 00:13:54,400 Speaker 1: host of Info Wars, made it his mission over the 179 00:13:54,440 --> 00:13:58,520 Speaker 1: course of ten years to smear I don't even smear 180 00:13:58,640 --> 00:14:00,880 Speaker 1: is not even a strong enough war. Glenn to what 181 00:14:01,000 --> 00:14:08,319 Speaker 1: Alex Jones did to the families of Sandy Hook, the children, 182 00:14:09,000 --> 00:14:12,360 Speaker 1: six year olds, kindergartner's, first graders, and their teachers that 183 00:14:12,400 --> 00:14:15,040 Speaker 1: were gunned down in their classrooms. If you can believe it, 184 00:14:16,080 --> 00:14:22,080 Speaker 1: nearly nearly ten years ago, Alex Jones made it his mission, folks, 185 00:14:22,240 --> 00:14:28,280 Speaker 1: to create conspiracy theories, lie say that the families were actors, 186 00:14:28,360 --> 00:14:34,560 Speaker 1: the murders never happened. And finally they were able to 187 00:14:34,600 --> 00:14:37,960 Speaker 1: get Alex Jones into court, suing him in civil court 188 00:14:38,880 --> 00:14:43,680 Speaker 1: one hundred and fifty million dollars for the trauma, the damages. 189 00:14:43,720 --> 00:14:47,640 Speaker 1: I mean, these families were receiving death threats right from 190 00:14:47,680 --> 00:14:53,440 Speaker 1: his rabid followers. So in this case, Glenn, you had 191 00:14:53,440 --> 00:14:56,200 Speaker 1: been watching because Alex Jones, as we all know, is 192 00:14:56,360 --> 00:15:02,560 Speaker 1: very connected with the Trump circle, right one of Donald 193 00:15:02,560 --> 00:15:07,120 Speaker 1: Trump's biggest supporters, Roger Stone. Like, they're all just birds 194 00:15:07,120 --> 00:15:10,360 Speaker 1: of a nasty feather that flocked together. So I want 195 00:15:10,440 --> 00:15:13,880 Speaker 1: you to lay out what you saw about this case, 196 00:15:13,920 --> 00:15:17,240 Speaker 1: and then we can go into this series of just 197 00:15:17,760 --> 00:15:24,000 Speaker 1: reality TV turn of events that happened throughout the trial. Yeah, 198 00:15:24,200 --> 00:15:29,000 Speaker 1: first of all, anybody who profits off the pain of 199 00:15:29,040 --> 00:15:35,240 Speaker 1: the Sandy Hook families is there really is no term 200 00:15:35,280 --> 00:15:40,520 Speaker 1: to describe how indecent he is. And it's all performance, 201 00:15:40,600 --> 00:15:43,440 Speaker 1: aren't mind you? I don't I have no idea what 202 00:15:43,560 --> 00:15:47,520 Speaker 1: he actually believes, but I think he actually believes very 203 00:15:47,640 --> 00:15:51,480 Speaker 1: little of what he says. It's all about the almighty dollar, 204 00:15:51,960 --> 00:15:56,840 Speaker 1: because he plugs into the conspiracy theory dujure, and he says, 205 00:15:56,880 --> 00:15:59,120 Speaker 1: send me money, send me money, send me money, and 206 00:15:59,200 --> 00:16:03,040 Speaker 1: I'll say whatever where it is you want to hear um. 207 00:16:03,520 --> 00:16:07,720 Speaker 1: So I mean, the man is lower than whale shit, 208 00:16:08,080 --> 00:16:13,800 Speaker 1: quite frankly, and doesn't get much lower than that. But 209 00:16:13,920 --> 00:16:19,080 Speaker 1: you know what, profiting off the murder of children? Yep? Oh, 210 00:16:19,080 --> 00:16:22,240 Speaker 1: if I could get him in the boxing ring for 211 00:16:22,280 --> 00:16:25,760 Speaker 1: a fair fight. So you know you saw some really 212 00:16:25,840 --> 00:16:31,280 Speaker 1: poor lawyer lawyering Danielle. Now you know, civil trials um 213 00:16:32,160 --> 00:16:35,800 Speaker 1: can tend to spin out of control, you know, whereas 214 00:16:35,920 --> 00:16:40,480 Speaker 1: criminal trials, depending on the judge, are usually much more 215 00:16:40,720 --> 00:16:46,640 Speaker 1: closely regulated proceedings. You're dealing with somebody's liberty interest, a 216 00:16:46,720 --> 00:16:50,400 Speaker 1: defendant who's on trial for his or our liberty or, 217 00:16:50,440 --> 00:16:53,760 Speaker 1: in the rare case of a capital prosecution, their life. 218 00:16:55,240 --> 00:16:58,880 Speaker 1: But in civil court, you know, it often feels like this, 219 00:16:59,160 --> 00:17:03,720 Speaker 1: No whole barred. The rules don't really apply. I will 220 00:17:03,880 --> 00:17:07,360 Speaker 1: violate the rules over and over again, regardless of how 221 00:17:07,400 --> 00:17:12,000 Speaker 1: many times the judge yells at me, counsels me, admonishes me. 222 00:17:12,119 --> 00:17:15,639 Speaker 1: That's what we saw. I mean, Alex Jones is just 223 00:17:16,920 --> 00:17:20,680 Speaker 1: it was a pathetic performance, of course, So let's talk 224 00:17:20,720 --> 00:17:25,760 Speaker 1: about the damages first. Because my understanding, and I hope 225 00:17:25,760 --> 00:17:27,840 Speaker 1: you'll correct me if I'm wrong, I didn't follow it 226 00:17:27,880 --> 00:17:31,480 Speaker 1: as closely as I was following all things January sixth, 227 00:17:31,840 --> 00:17:36,280 Speaker 1: because there's been some really important developments there. They awarded 228 00:17:36,280 --> 00:17:40,080 Speaker 1: the jury awarded I believe four million dollars in compensatory 229 00:17:40,200 --> 00:17:45,480 Speaker 1: damages yesterday, and the deliberations will continue on punitive damages. 230 00:17:45,720 --> 00:17:47,639 Speaker 1: Let me just break down what those two things are. 231 00:17:48,160 --> 00:17:56,280 Speaker 1: Compensatory damages are awarded to this sounds ridiculous. But to 232 00:17:56,359 --> 00:18:01,080 Speaker 1: try to estimate the life of the child, what would 233 00:18:01,119 --> 00:18:05,880 Speaker 1: the child this sounds crass. I've never been a civil practitioner. 234 00:18:06,400 --> 00:18:10,040 Speaker 1: What might that child have earned over his or her lifetime? 235 00:18:11,040 --> 00:18:14,520 Speaker 1: So such that you know the family and the child, 236 00:18:14,560 --> 00:18:18,840 Speaker 1: of course, has been deprived of making that money. Those 237 00:18:18,880 --> 00:18:24,639 Speaker 1: are compensatory damages. You're being compensated for money that you 238 00:18:24,800 --> 00:18:28,840 Speaker 1: basically stole by committing this murder, or in Alex Jones case, 239 00:18:28,880 --> 00:18:33,280 Speaker 1: by lying about and defaming the victims and their families. 240 00:18:33,880 --> 00:18:39,840 Speaker 1: But then there's punitive damages. Punitive damages are punishment for 241 00:18:40,720 --> 00:18:46,400 Speaker 1: the horrific lies that Alex Jones told in the untold 242 00:18:46,480 --> 00:18:50,320 Speaker 1: damage he did to those families by telling those lies. 243 00:18:50,920 --> 00:18:52,840 Speaker 1: I know the families have sued for one hundred and 244 00:18:52,840 --> 00:18:59,840 Speaker 1: fifty million dollars. So my assumption is the next verdict 245 00:19:00,040 --> 00:19:03,480 Speaker 1: or finding of the jury will be the punitive damage 246 00:19:03,560 --> 00:19:06,600 Speaker 1: is part how badly should he be punished for what 247 00:19:06,680 --> 00:19:10,600 Speaker 1: he put those families through. One fifty million dollars doesn't 248 00:19:10,640 --> 00:19:12,680 Speaker 1: sound like enough. It could be one hundred and fifty 249 00:19:12,680 --> 00:19:15,560 Speaker 1: billion dollars for what he did to these families. But 250 00:19:16,160 --> 00:19:21,240 Speaker 1: you know, I think whatever the ultimate finding is with 251 00:19:21,280 --> 00:19:24,720 Speaker 1: respect to money that he owes for his horrific behavior, 252 00:19:25,200 --> 00:19:28,000 Speaker 1: it will bankrupt him. It will probably you know, put 253 00:19:28,080 --> 00:19:31,000 Speaker 1: him in the fact pauper's prison the rest of his life. 254 00:19:31,000 --> 00:19:33,439 Speaker 1: At least that's what I'm hoping. And then if you 255 00:19:33,480 --> 00:19:36,639 Speaker 1: want to talk about one of the world's biggest legal 256 00:19:36,800 --> 00:19:44,040 Speaker 1: bungles ever, please his Alex Jones lawyers. According to what 257 00:19:44,040 --> 00:19:51,200 Speaker 1: we've seen reported inadvertently gave the plaintift lawyers, the lawyers 258 00:19:51,280 --> 00:19:55,160 Speaker 1: for the Sandy Hook families, his whole cell phone. How 259 00:19:55,200 --> 00:19:59,479 Speaker 1: two years, two years worth does that happen? You know? 260 00:20:00,000 --> 00:20:07,119 Speaker 1: When it comes to electronic discovery and electronic evidence, I 261 00:20:07,200 --> 00:20:10,960 Speaker 1: am the last one to pretend like I know all 262 00:20:10,960 --> 00:20:13,560 Speaker 1: the ins and outs. What I do know is that 263 00:20:13,960 --> 00:20:17,560 Speaker 1: we used to have our forensic experts, our electronics experts, 264 00:20:17,880 --> 00:20:22,440 Speaker 1: do lots of forensic searches of computers and cell phones. 265 00:20:22,640 --> 00:20:25,920 Speaker 1: They would generate information that, if you printed it out, 266 00:20:25,960 --> 00:20:28,399 Speaker 1: would fill the Library of Congress for one cell phone. 267 00:20:28,400 --> 00:20:31,359 Speaker 1: It's insane. They would put it on various discs and 268 00:20:31,480 --> 00:20:34,360 Speaker 1: thumb drives and floppy disks or whatever back in the day, 269 00:20:34,720 --> 00:20:37,399 Speaker 1: and then we would have to give over what we 270 00:20:37,440 --> 00:20:41,480 Speaker 1: would have to give over in discovery to opposing counsels. 271 00:20:42,080 --> 00:20:45,680 Speaker 1: It's not a simple, straightforward proposition, especially for somebody who 272 00:20:45,760 --> 00:20:49,720 Speaker 1: is eat incompetent like me. So I'm not going to say, listen, 273 00:20:49,760 --> 00:20:55,080 Speaker 1: it's a horrific mistake, you know. But what I love 274 00:20:55,119 --> 00:20:58,960 Speaker 1: about it is it puts all the lies to everything 275 00:20:59,080 --> 00:21:03,399 Speaker 1: Alex Jones has been saying and testifying about, which means 276 00:21:03,400 --> 00:21:07,720 Speaker 1: he's now open to possible clinal perjury charges. But the 277 00:21:07,840 --> 00:21:12,399 Speaker 1: last two years of his text messages, how close was 278 00:21:12,520 --> 00:21:16,119 Speaker 1: he with Steve Bannon and Roger Stone and Mike Flynn 279 00:21:16,160 --> 00:21:19,959 Speaker 1: and Rudy Giuliani. And do you think, Danielle for a minute, 280 00:21:20,440 --> 00:21:27,080 Speaker 1: he and Donald Trump weren't communicating somewhere somehow because Alex 281 00:21:27,160 --> 00:21:31,760 Speaker 1: Jones had a big audience. Alex Jones message was pro Trump, 282 00:21:32,520 --> 00:21:36,000 Speaker 1: and I have a feeling this could be a treasure 283 00:21:36,040 --> 00:21:39,840 Speaker 1: trove for both the j six Committee because they're seeking 284 00:21:39,880 --> 00:21:43,560 Speaker 1: to get their ants on Alex Jones text messages, and 285 00:21:43,600 --> 00:21:47,040 Speaker 1: then ultimately for the federal grand jury that has all 286 00:21:47,080 --> 00:21:51,119 Speaker 1: of a sudden, you know, been prodded into wakefulness and 287 00:21:51,160 --> 00:21:57,160 Speaker 1: they're going gangbusters bringing in extraordinarily high profile witnesses to 288 00:21:57,160 --> 00:22:01,400 Speaker 1: testify before the grand jury, like White House cow patsa Boloney. 289 00:22:02,200 --> 00:22:07,159 Speaker 1: So let's let's transition into from Alex Jones. We will 290 00:22:07,359 --> 00:22:11,600 Speaker 1: know more about his fate come next week when when 291 00:22:11,600 --> 00:22:15,080 Speaker 1: the punitive damages are are decided. And it was thankful 292 00:22:15,119 --> 00:22:17,480 Speaker 1: to me for the people that follow me on Twitter, 293 00:22:17,520 --> 00:22:21,439 Speaker 1: because I was outraged by only four million dollars and 294 00:22:21,440 --> 00:22:24,119 Speaker 1: then folks who are like, don't worry, Dannie Hell don't worry. 295 00:22:24,200 --> 00:22:26,520 Speaker 1: It is not just gonna be for me because I 296 00:22:26,520 --> 00:22:29,600 Speaker 1: I came to find out, like everybody else, Alex Jones, 297 00:22:29,640 --> 00:22:33,720 Speaker 1: who was making eight hundred thousand dollars a day selling 298 00:22:33,840 --> 00:22:39,639 Speaker 1: bullshit on his Info Wars, selling survival food and gun paraphernalia, 299 00:22:39,760 --> 00:22:45,160 Speaker 1: I had no idea that white supremacy and stupidity were 300 00:22:45,240 --> 00:22:49,240 Speaker 1: so lucrative. I had no idea. So I'm like, oh, 301 00:22:49,320 --> 00:22:52,840 Speaker 1: he definitely has this money that he can come off 302 00:22:52,880 --> 00:22:55,040 Speaker 1: of for those families and what he did to them. 303 00:22:55,040 --> 00:23:00,280 Speaker 1: But I want to transition now to January sixth because 304 00:23:00,600 --> 00:23:03,920 Speaker 1: you and I for you know, god knows how long 305 00:23:04,000 --> 00:23:07,639 Speaker 1: now almost two years since the insurrection, almost two years 306 00:23:08,800 --> 00:23:12,520 Speaker 1: we've been waiting for the Department of Justice to activate, 307 00:23:12,640 --> 00:23:15,680 Speaker 1: to activate in the way that the January sixth Committee 308 00:23:15,680 --> 00:23:18,840 Speaker 1: has activated. And like you have said, they have woken 309 00:23:18,960 --> 00:23:22,199 Speaker 1: from their slumber right and it is as if the 310 00:23:22,280 --> 00:23:26,800 Speaker 1: alarm clock has gone off there. So walk us through, Glen. 311 00:23:27,359 --> 00:23:30,680 Speaker 1: What we have learned over the last week about where 312 00:23:30,720 --> 00:23:35,920 Speaker 1: the Department of Justice is right now is it is 313 00:23:35,960 --> 00:23:39,600 Speaker 1: it in parallel with where the January sixth Committee is. 314 00:23:39,600 --> 00:23:43,040 Speaker 1: Are they still lagging behind because the January sixth Committee 315 00:23:43,080 --> 00:23:48,120 Speaker 1: obviously has been working since January six, right, so they've 316 00:23:48,160 --> 00:23:51,080 Speaker 1: been working for the last eighteen almost nineteen months now. 317 00:23:52,040 --> 00:23:55,359 Speaker 1: So what does it look. Where are we with where 318 00:23:55,400 --> 00:23:58,960 Speaker 1: the Department of Justice is on January six? Well, we're 319 00:23:59,000 --> 00:24:01,080 Speaker 1: in a much better place now than we were a 320 00:24:01,119 --> 00:24:04,359 Speaker 1: few months ago. And I want to just tweak my 321 00:24:04,520 --> 00:24:07,320 Speaker 1: snarky comment of a few minutes ago that they've been 322 00:24:07,359 --> 00:24:14,160 Speaker 1: prodded into wakefulness, because that's my frustration talking. But let's 323 00:24:14,240 --> 00:24:16,800 Speaker 1: also be fair to the Department of Justice. I'm speaking 324 00:24:16,840 --> 00:24:21,680 Speaker 1: to myself now. We learned recently that back in April, 325 00:24:21,720 --> 00:24:25,440 Speaker 1: the Federal Brand Jury had subpoened and received Mark Meadows 326 00:24:25,480 --> 00:24:28,600 Speaker 1: cell phone records. We didn't know that that had been 327 00:24:28,600 --> 00:24:31,159 Speaker 1: going on. And what I can promise you, Danielle, that 328 00:24:31,359 --> 00:24:35,840 Speaker 1: wasn't the first significant step DJ took that we knew 329 00:24:35,880 --> 00:24:38,960 Speaker 1: nothing about. So it has been going on for a 330 00:24:39,080 --> 00:24:42,880 Speaker 1: very long time, and whatever they've been doing behind the scenes, 331 00:24:42,960 --> 00:24:46,720 Speaker 1: they have now decided tactically that the time is right 332 00:24:47,080 --> 00:24:52,359 Speaker 1: to start subpoenaing the highest of the high profile witnesses 333 00:24:53,480 --> 00:24:57,159 Speaker 1: because they knew everything would get out precisely as it 334 00:24:57,280 --> 00:25:00,800 Speaker 1: has been getting out now. For example, when Mark Short, 335 00:25:01,200 --> 00:25:05,399 Speaker 1: Vice President former Vice President Pence's chief of staff was 336 00:25:05,520 --> 00:25:08,280 Speaker 1: subpoena to the grand jury. What did he do? He 337 00:25:08,359 --> 00:25:11,320 Speaker 1: ran to the Washington Post Carol Lennig, and I'm glad 338 00:25:11,400 --> 00:25:14,240 Speaker 1: he did, and he said, let me tell you what 339 00:25:14,359 --> 00:25:17,720 Speaker 1: the federal prosecutors are asking me in the grand jury. 340 00:25:17,920 --> 00:25:20,520 Speaker 1: So that's the point where the cat's out of the bag. 341 00:25:20,840 --> 00:25:23,480 Speaker 1: And what I'm hoping is DJ has done everything it 342 00:25:23,520 --> 00:25:26,760 Speaker 1: could do behind the scenes before coming to this moment 343 00:25:26,760 --> 00:25:29,960 Speaker 1: in time. Doesn't mean they've been doing nothing, okay, even 344 00:25:30,000 --> 00:25:32,360 Speaker 1: though I'm so frustrated that they seem to be moving 345 00:25:32,440 --> 00:25:36,320 Speaker 1: too slowly and there's been no overt law enforcement activity 346 00:25:36,440 --> 00:25:40,160 Speaker 1: to lock people up, like people who are tampering with witnesses, 347 00:25:40,440 --> 00:25:42,400 Speaker 1: because that's the kind of stuff you have to address 348 00:25:42,640 --> 00:25:46,000 Speaker 1: in real and you don't delay when it comes to 349 00:25:46,040 --> 00:25:49,040 Speaker 1: witness tampering. See, I'm going off on eleven tangents already. 350 00:25:49,040 --> 00:25:52,320 Speaker 1: I'm gonna try to pull myself back. So what we 351 00:25:52,440 --> 00:25:55,960 Speaker 1: learned that was actually pretty earth shattering this past week 352 00:25:56,359 --> 00:26:00,200 Speaker 1: is White House Counsel Pat Sippoloni and the depth the 353 00:26:00,280 --> 00:26:02,640 Speaker 1: White House Council, whose name is escaping me, it will 354 00:26:02,640 --> 00:26:05,600 Speaker 1: come to me, have been subpoena to the grand jury. 355 00:26:06,200 --> 00:26:09,879 Speaker 1: The reason and I did a couple of videos, and 356 00:26:09,960 --> 00:26:12,600 Speaker 1: I've been talking on air with Joy and others in 357 00:26:12,640 --> 00:26:17,280 Speaker 1: recent days about why it is such a dramatic difference 358 00:26:17,720 --> 00:26:21,080 Speaker 1: when a White House Council testifies to the January sixth committee, 359 00:26:21,160 --> 00:26:23,919 Speaker 1: which we know he did, We saw that, and to 360 00:26:24,000 --> 00:26:26,920 Speaker 1: the federal grand jury, because people might be inclined to say, look, 361 00:26:27,160 --> 00:26:29,960 Speaker 1: testimony's testimony, he's done at once, what's the big deal 362 00:26:30,320 --> 00:26:34,359 Speaker 1: the difference between testifying to a congressional committee and testifying 363 00:26:34,400 --> 00:26:37,600 Speaker 1: to a federal grand jury, like night and day, because 364 00:26:37,680 --> 00:26:40,840 Speaker 1: we saw Pat Sippoloni and some video tape testimony that 365 00:26:40,920 --> 00:26:44,320 Speaker 1: was part of the j six public hearings, refused to 366 00:26:44,320 --> 00:26:48,320 Speaker 1: answer questions about Donald Trump's primes, about Donald Trump's conduct, 367 00:26:48,320 --> 00:26:52,280 Speaker 1: about Donald Trump's statements invoking executive privilege. And there's a 368 00:26:52,320 --> 00:26:55,199 Speaker 1: little bit of a silver lining behind that dark cloud, 369 00:26:55,600 --> 00:26:59,639 Speaker 1: because remember how there would be a really hot button 370 00:27:00,040 --> 00:27:04,600 Speaker 1: question that was seeking information about Donald Trump's responsibility for 371 00:27:04,640 --> 00:27:07,399 Speaker 1: the insurrection. Pat sippalone would look over it as lawyer, 372 00:27:08,160 --> 00:27:10,359 Speaker 1: and as lawyer would give him like one of these 373 00:27:10,480 --> 00:27:13,480 Speaker 1: motions as if to say, you can't talk about that, 374 00:27:14,160 --> 00:27:17,960 Speaker 1: and Pat sippalone would go, yeah, I guess that's all 375 00:27:18,000 --> 00:27:20,920 Speaker 1: I can say. You know, I'm overstating a little but 376 00:27:21,040 --> 00:27:23,159 Speaker 1: only a little bit, because that was the message that 377 00:27:23,240 --> 00:27:29,120 Speaker 1: was watched that back and forth. Right. And here's the thing. 378 00:27:29,400 --> 00:27:35,439 Speaker 1: The January sixth Committee has zero power work to test 379 00:27:36,000 --> 00:27:40,320 Speaker 1: and overcome that assertion of privilege and compel an answer. 380 00:27:40,800 --> 00:27:45,919 Speaker 1: But the federal grand jury has tons of power to test, overcome, 381 00:27:46,200 --> 00:27:49,680 Speaker 1: and compel an answer in real time. That's why these 382 00:27:49,720 --> 00:27:54,240 Speaker 1: two settings are so dramatically different, because the Federal grand 383 00:27:54,320 --> 00:27:57,359 Speaker 1: jury is going to get all the good stuff that 384 00:27:57,520 --> 00:27:59,919 Speaker 1: the j sixth Committee couldn't get. And let me just 385 00:28:00,080 --> 00:28:03,520 Speaker 1: tell your viewers thirty seconds of how that happens. Because 386 00:28:03,560 --> 00:28:06,280 Speaker 1: I've litigated privileges in the grand jury a bunch over 387 00:28:06,320 --> 00:28:09,320 Speaker 1: my thirty years as a prosecutor. So when a witness 388 00:28:09,400 --> 00:28:12,040 Speaker 1: is in the grand jury, I refuse to answer that 389 00:28:12,160 --> 00:28:17,600 Speaker 1: question why attorney client privilege, spousal privilege, Fifth Amendment, privilege 390 00:28:17,640 --> 00:28:23,080 Speaker 1: against self incrimination, executive privilege, doccupation privilege, priest parishioner. There's 391 00:28:23,200 --> 00:28:26,280 Speaker 1: lots of privileges, and they're legitimate privileges in a law. 392 00:28:26,359 --> 00:28:29,360 Speaker 1: But guess what a lot of people invoke those privileges 393 00:28:29,400 --> 00:28:31,159 Speaker 1: because they don't want to testify. They don't want to 394 00:28:31,200 --> 00:28:36,320 Speaker 1: knock out their friend or their criminal associate, so they 395 00:28:36,400 --> 00:28:39,880 Speaker 1: just throw that up as as a roadblock to prosecutors 396 00:28:39,920 --> 00:28:43,080 Speaker 1: getting the information. You know what we do. We walked 397 00:28:43,200 --> 00:28:46,080 Speaker 1: over to the chief Judge's chambers in this case, it 398 00:28:46,160 --> 00:28:49,520 Speaker 1: would be Chief Judge Beryl Howell of the Federal District 399 00:28:49,560 --> 00:28:53,000 Speaker 1: Court in DC, and we litigate the privilege in real time. 400 00:28:53,200 --> 00:28:56,080 Speaker 1: I mean literally, all this happens within a matter of dates. 401 00:28:56,160 --> 00:29:00,320 Speaker 1: So it's not, for instance, oh we go back, we 402 00:29:00,400 --> 00:29:04,880 Speaker 1: come bet like it's this elongated. This is truncated. You're 403 00:29:04,920 --> 00:29:08,040 Speaker 1: able to really do this at the moment and say, well, 404 00:29:08,200 --> 00:29:11,680 Speaker 1: let's talk about this privilege and then move forward. It 405 00:29:11,800 --> 00:29:14,520 Speaker 1: ain't Don McGan running out the clock for two years 406 00:29:14,680 --> 00:29:17,440 Speaker 1: the way he did trying to fight having to testify 407 00:29:17,880 --> 00:29:21,160 Speaker 1: before Congress, because this is a very different setting. There's 408 00:29:21,200 --> 00:29:24,720 Speaker 1: a need for this criminal evidence right now, and so 409 00:29:24,880 --> 00:29:28,640 Speaker 1: the system is set up to resolve the issue right now, 410 00:29:28,920 --> 00:29:31,600 Speaker 1: which a congressional committee can't do. They can try to 411 00:29:31,680 --> 00:29:34,120 Speaker 1: bring suit in a civil suit in court to compel 412 00:29:34,160 --> 00:29:36,800 Speaker 1: the testimony, and then that takes years and years and years. 413 00:29:37,120 --> 00:29:39,280 Speaker 1: So here's what Beryl Howell. I would bet a buck 414 00:29:39,320 --> 00:29:41,240 Speaker 1: of my own money. You know I'm not a high roller. 415 00:29:41,320 --> 00:29:44,160 Speaker 1: That's my betting limit. I would bet a buck that 416 00:29:44,400 --> 00:29:50,440 Speaker 1: Beryl Howell would say, Wait a minute. One, the president 417 00:29:50,520 --> 00:29:53,840 Speaker 1: hasn't invoked the privilege, and Donald Trump ain't the president. 418 00:29:53,920 --> 00:29:57,920 Speaker 1: It's Joe Biden. One. The privilege is waived, Pat zippolone. 419 00:29:58,560 --> 00:30:03,680 Speaker 1: Two crime odd exception. Pat sippolone. Donald Trump was talking 420 00:30:03,720 --> 00:30:09,720 Speaker 1: about crimes, so belt and suspenders. There's two reasons, and 421 00:30:10,200 --> 00:30:12,160 Speaker 1: there's a third, which is escaping me at the moment. 422 00:30:12,200 --> 00:30:14,920 Speaker 1: But I'll pop into my head and so I predict 423 00:30:15,560 --> 00:30:18,720 Speaker 1: she will order him. She'll say, the privilege yields. Appreciate 424 00:30:18,840 --> 00:30:23,480 Speaker 1: your attempt to assert it. I'm ordering you to testify 425 00:30:23,600 --> 00:30:26,280 Speaker 1: before the grand jury. And here's the beauty of that. 426 00:30:26,680 --> 00:30:28,280 Speaker 1: And I want to go back to what we were 427 00:30:28,320 --> 00:30:31,280 Speaker 1: talking about a minute ago, when Pat Sippoloni would look 428 00:30:31,280 --> 00:30:33,760 Speaker 1: over at as lawyer and Pat sippalone would be like, 429 00:30:33,840 --> 00:30:37,040 Speaker 1: I guess I can't say anything more. Once Judge Beryl 430 00:30:37,120 --> 00:30:41,800 Speaker 1: Howell orders him to testify, he has one hundred percent 431 00:30:42,120 --> 00:30:46,400 Speaker 1: legal cover. He's bulletproof. Nobody can say he violated any 432 00:30:46,520 --> 00:30:50,640 Speaker 1: privilege because the privilege was litigated and laid the rest 433 00:30:50,720 --> 00:30:53,440 Speaker 1: by the chief Judge and he's protected. So he can 434 00:30:53,480 --> 00:30:55,960 Speaker 1: go in and say Donald Trump did this and did 435 00:30:56,000 --> 00:30:57,880 Speaker 1: this and said this and directed us to try to 436 00:30:58,000 --> 00:31:01,000 Speaker 1: do this and said this to Mike Pence, and he 437 00:31:01,400 --> 00:31:05,560 Speaker 1: is ft once all that stuff comes tumbling out. And 438 00:31:05,960 --> 00:31:08,440 Speaker 1: so that's why it's so different. This is not more 439 00:31:08,480 --> 00:31:10,880 Speaker 1: of the same. All testimony is not created equal. And 440 00:31:10,960 --> 00:31:12,600 Speaker 1: then the last thing I want to kind of throw 441 00:31:12,680 --> 00:31:16,120 Speaker 1: into the mix is last night's reporting on CNN where 442 00:31:16,200 --> 00:31:17,959 Speaker 1: and it was buried down in the article, but I'm 443 00:31:18,000 --> 00:31:21,080 Speaker 1: going to do a video about it today. Donald Trump 444 00:31:21,240 --> 00:31:26,200 Speaker 1: has been counseled, now they don't say by his defense team, 445 00:31:26,240 --> 00:31:29,640 Speaker 1: but I think that's probably who was counseling him. Donald 446 00:31:29,680 --> 00:31:33,000 Speaker 1: Trump has been counseled to cut all ties and have 447 00:31:33,120 --> 00:31:41,320 Speaker 1: no communication with Mark Meadows. What does that tell us, 448 00:31:42,400 --> 00:31:48,400 Speaker 1: Marcus flipping bingo bingo? That is the reasonable inference you 449 00:31:48,480 --> 00:31:52,880 Speaker 1: can draw from that reporting. Once that domino falls, it's on, 450 00:31:53,560 --> 00:31:56,400 Speaker 1: it's on, and I love the reporting and Rolling Stone 451 00:31:56,400 --> 00:31:59,840 Speaker 1: a few days ago that Donald Trump's defense team is 452 00:32:00,000 --> 00:32:02,880 Speaker 1: coming up with a legal strategy that involves putting it 453 00:32:03,000 --> 00:32:11,600 Speaker 1: all on fall. Guys, that's a meadow, meadow, Rudy, you 454 00:32:11,840 --> 00:32:16,560 Speaker 1: name it. So I think I I think it's happening. 455 00:32:17,160 --> 00:32:20,920 Speaker 1: I think it's happening. So here's a question. Because this, 456 00:32:21,160 --> 00:32:23,760 Speaker 1: this I did not know because you know, sometimes I 457 00:32:23,880 --> 00:32:26,560 Speaker 1: like to sleep, So this I did not know. Now 458 00:32:27,320 --> 00:32:35,880 Speaker 1: about Mark Meadows, uh and Trump? Um, Cassidy Hutchinson had 459 00:32:36,000 --> 00:32:42,000 Speaker 1: said that Mark was in his office burning papers, right, Um, 460 00:32:43,000 --> 00:32:47,080 Speaker 1: the day of the insurrection. Right, he's in there burning papers. 461 00:32:47,520 --> 00:32:50,920 Speaker 1: He was also in there we know from that wild 462 00:32:51,040 --> 00:32:54,600 Speaker 1: I think it was December thirteenth or December eighteenth meeting, right, 463 00:32:54,720 --> 00:32:59,960 Speaker 1: the one that was absolutely crazy, um, looking for constant 464 00:33:00,000 --> 00:33:03,760 Speaker 1: institutional ways for Donald Trump to stay in power. So 465 00:33:04,840 --> 00:33:09,000 Speaker 1: paint us a little picture about Mark Meadows and what 466 00:33:09,320 --> 00:33:12,680 Speaker 1: kind of trouble Mark Meadows could be facing on his 467 00:33:12,880 --> 00:33:16,920 Speaker 1: own for this man to go from burning papers and 468 00:33:17,120 --> 00:33:21,400 Speaker 1: looking for the constitution loopholes to then being like, you 469 00:33:21,480 --> 00:33:25,520 Speaker 1: know what, I think, I think it's time. I think 470 00:33:25,560 --> 00:33:27,560 Speaker 1: it's time that I that I give it up, that 471 00:33:27,680 --> 00:33:31,080 Speaker 1: I give up the ghost. Right, what paint us to 472 00:33:31,280 --> 00:33:35,520 Speaker 1: what what could be could potentially hypothetically be going on. 473 00:33:36,720 --> 00:33:40,880 Speaker 1: So here's my prediction, um, And as an asside. When 474 00:33:40,920 --> 00:33:44,560 Speaker 1: I was at the US Attorney's office in DC, one 475 00:33:44,640 --> 00:33:48,160 Speaker 1: of my nicknames they weren't all flattering, trust me, was 476 00:33:48,920 --> 00:33:52,480 Speaker 1: King of the Cooperators. That was not a compliment, mind you. 477 00:33:53,280 --> 00:33:56,040 Speaker 1: You know that's that's basically saying. You know, you deal 478 00:33:56,120 --> 00:34:00,360 Speaker 1: with a lot of criminals in your prosecutions. And when 479 00:34:00,400 --> 00:34:05,280 Speaker 1: I say King of the cooperators, frankly, I loved working 480 00:34:05,360 --> 00:34:11,360 Speaker 1: with cooperating witnesses because they were my de facto experts 481 00:34:11,880 --> 00:34:15,560 Speaker 1: on crime in Washington, DC, because that was their life. 482 00:34:16,280 --> 00:34:19,040 Speaker 1: So I would work with them. I would get one 483 00:34:19,120 --> 00:34:21,680 Speaker 1: hundred percent of the truth out of them about their 484 00:34:21,760 --> 00:34:25,600 Speaker 1: crimes and then about the crimes of others. Then I 485 00:34:25,640 --> 00:34:28,520 Speaker 1: would make them plead guilty to their crimes. I wouldn't 486 00:34:28,600 --> 00:34:30,920 Speaker 1: make them, but this was the deal they got. You 487 00:34:31,160 --> 00:34:35,399 Speaker 1: plead guilty to your crimes. You work night and day 488 00:34:35,880 --> 00:34:39,840 Speaker 1: to help me bring others to justice for their crimes. 489 00:34:40,480 --> 00:34:44,080 Speaker 1: And then at your sentencing hearing, I'm standing shoulder to 490 00:34:44,120 --> 00:34:47,840 Speaker 1: shoulder with you figuratively speaking, and I am telling that 491 00:34:48,080 --> 00:34:51,000 Speaker 1: judge who was about to sentence you about all the 492 00:34:51,160 --> 00:34:54,600 Speaker 1: hard work you did to try to make right what 493 00:34:54,840 --> 00:34:58,439 Speaker 1: you did wrong for all those years. You're still going 494 00:34:58,520 --> 00:35:02,160 Speaker 1: to prison. Hey don't you don't get a free pass 495 00:35:02,280 --> 00:35:05,799 Speaker 1: for your crimes. But your sentence might not be life. 496 00:35:06,200 --> 00:35:09,239 Speaker 1: Your sentence might be ten years in prison. And you 497 00:35:09,320 --> 00:35:12,960 Speaker 1: know you're forty years old, thirty years old. You will 498 00:35:13,040 --> 00:35:15,080 Speaker 1: still have a life to live on the outside, and 499 00:35:15,200 --> 00:35:18,320 Speaker 1: you will be able to sleep at night knowing that 500 00:35:18,560 --> 00:35:20,800 Speaker 1: you made a change in your life and tried to 501 00:35:20,880 --> 00:35:24,880 Speaker 1: do the right thing moving forward. That's Mark Meadows, Mark Medick. 502 00:35:24,920 --> 00:35:29,600 Speaker 1: Here's my prediction. Mark Meadows goes to prison, but he 503 00:35:29,760 --> 00:35:34,960 Speaker 1: goes to prison for a shorter period of time as 504 00:35:35,040 --> 00:35:39,360 Speaker 1: opposed to a longer period of time, because he flips 505 00:35:39,400 --> 00:35:42,640 Speaker 1: on Donald Trump and tries to make right all of 506 00:35:42,680 --> 00:35:45,840 Speaker 1: the things he did wrong for so many years, like 507 00:35:46,320 --> 00:35:49,240 Speaker 1: voter fraud in North Carolina that will be rolled into 508 00:35:49,320 --> 00:35:53,680 Speaker 1: the mix, and all of the enabling that he did 509 00:35:54,520 --> 00:35:58,440 Speaker 1: with and for Donald Trump to try to corruptly overturn 510 00:35:58,480 --> 00:36:02,280 Speaker 1: the elections results. For God six, he was treason central 511 00:36:02,640 --> 00:36:08,240 Speaker 1: taking all these phone calls and text messages from members 512 00:36:08,320 --> 00:36:12,640 Speaker 1: of Congress, Jenny Thomas and I love using Jenny Thomas's 513 00:36:12,680 --> 00:36:16,719 Speaker 1: own tweet against her and against Mark Meadows. She said basically, 514 00:36:16,760 --> 00:36:19,440 Speaker 1: I'm going to paraphrase. You have to overturn the elections 515 00:36:19,520 --> 00:36:27,520 Speaker 1: results because there are ballot fraudsters being detained on barge's 516 00:36:27,600 --> 00:36:33,960 Speaker 1: outside of Gitmo right now awaiting their military tribunals for sedition. Mark, 517 00:36:34,320 --> 00:36:38,160 Speaker 1: So you need to overturn the elections results. I mean, 518 00:36:38,560 --> 00:36:41,719 Speaker 1: what kind of craziness is that? But what does Mark 519 00:36:41,800 --> 00:36:46,000 Speaker 1: Meadows do? He receives that information and says, King of Kings, 520 00:36:46,080 --> 00:36:49,640 Speaker 1: where with you? We're going to reinstall Donald Trump. That's 521 00:36:49,680 --> 00:36:53,560 Speaker 1: a conspiracy to commit offenses against the United States. That's 522 00:36:53,640 --> 00:36:57,240 Speaker 1: one text message that doesn't even go to him burning 523 00:36:57,600 --> 00:37:02,040 Speaker 1: government records, It doesn't go There's so much and that's 524 00:37:02,120 --> 00:37:04,759 Speaker 1: why I think Donald Trump has been canceled. You do 525 00:37:04,960 --> 00:37:08,960 Speaker 1: not talk to Mark Meadows anymore. So I think we're 526 00:37:09,000 --> 00:37:12,680 Speaker 1: on track. I think we're on track. I mean, I'm 527 00:37:12,719 --> 00:37:15,120 Speaker 1: going to say this as my as my final note. 528 00:37:15,840 --> 00:37:20,640 Speaker 1: It seems and let me be cautiously optimistic, ye of 529 00:37:20,800 --> 00:37:24,200 Speaker 1: little faith that I am, But it seems as if 530 00:37:24,320 --> 00:37:28,480 Speaker 1: the thread has been pulled and that we're going to 531 00:37:28,560 --> 00:37:31,920 Speaker 1: see very I hope quickly or quicker than we have 532 00:37:32,800 --> 00:37:36,960 Speaker 1: things start to fall apart for Donald Trump and all 533 00:37:37,040 --> 00:37:40,320 Speaker 1: of these people. And I believe that Alex Jones is 534 00:37:40,440 --> 00:37:43,840 Speaker 1: treas Er Trove is going to be just that. I 535 00:37:43,960 --> 00:37:46,640 Speaker 1: think it's going to be eye opening. I think it's 536 00:37:46,680 --> 00:37:49,120 Speaker 1: going to be a bag of crazy. It's going to 537 00:37:49,160 --> 00:37:51,000 Speaker 1: be good and I hate to talk and run. I 538 00:37:51,200 --> 00:37:54,000 Speaker 1: got to run. I appreciate you, Glenn, Thank you so 539 00:37:54,280 --> 00:38:03,040 Speaker 1: very see you next week. All right bye. That is 540 00:38:03,120 --> 00:38:07,320 Speaker 1: it for me today, dear friends on woke up as always, 541 00:38:07,719 --> 00:38:10,680 Speaker 1: Power to the people and to all the people. Power, 542 00:38:10,960 --> 00:38:13,399 Speaker 1: get woke and stay woke as fuck.